No Jumper - Rubi Rose's #1 Spender Tells ALL!

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

Adam tracked down the now infamous "gooner" aka # 1 Rubi Rose OF fan, to come down and explain how he ended up in this viral storm. ----- Get the latest news & videos http://nojumper.com CHECK OUT O...UR ONLINE STORE!!! https://shop.nojumper.com/ NO JUMPER PATREON   / nojumper   CHECK OUT OUR NEW SPOTIFY PLAYLIST https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5te... Follow us on SNAPCHAT   / 4874336901   Follow us on SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4ENxb4B... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/n... Follow us on Social Media:   / 4874336901     / nojumper     / nojumper     / nojumperofficial     / nojumper   JOIN THE DISCORD:   / discord   Follow Adam22:   / adam22     / adam22     / adam22   adam22hoe on Snapchat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 No Jumper, the coolest podcast in the world. And today we're having a conversation with perhaps one of the greatest gooners of our generation. Do you relate to that term? I relate, yes. I guess I'm a gooner. What's a gooner exactly? A gooner is like a guy who spends a large percentage of his time in his basement, bedroom, etc. Multiple different monitors set up, corn playing on the monitors.
Starting point is 00:00:35 And oftentimes they're known to pleasure themselves seven or eight times in a day. Okay, I guess we could go along with that. I mean, yeah, I guess that's me. That sounds familiar. You got seven or eight in you? No. No? How many?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Probably like three or four. Three or four solid. So half, you know. Yeah. I mean, if you're by yourself. Yeah, if I'm by myself, you know. If you got women involved, then I could definitely have quite a few rounds in me. But as far as finding the ambition to do that when you're solo,
Starting point is 00:01:06 Pitching a tent? Yeah. I don't know. I know. And I'm just on only fans, you know? Right. Okay. Let's start with how I know you.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And I might have blurry memories for some parts of this. But back in the day, you came to the old store on Melrose, which, by the way, we're back, 766, 65, Melrose. And at one point, you did a lean dab. How did that actually happen? Did you just DM me and say, hey, I want to take a lean dab? I just pulled up to the thing or to the store one day, and I came in the back. And, yeah, I just... Hit the lean dab.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That's the first time I ever did lean, too. I was just like, let me try this out. And then I poured it into one of these. Yeah, the dabber. And then I didn't know what I was going to do at the time. I was like, okay. And then I was taking a dab, and then I poured it back as I was taking the dab. So, yeah, it was just something that came spur of the moment.
Starting point is 00:01:58 It was just popping to your head. Where did you even get the drink? I had it in my freezer for a while. So, but it was a for cold before. I remember you had the green. And this is years before green became somewhat normalized in society. But we thought that was pretty funny that you pulled up with some green lean. Yeah, some green lean.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I mean, I didn't know anything about lean. So it's like, you know, I mean, I know it's usually like a reddish, pinkish, I'd tent, I guess, you know, but I've never done it until that day. Right. I did like two lines. And that was like. You drank two lines of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. Because I was pouring it in there and I didn't know what to pour. You know, I was like kind of paying attention, but not, you know. So where do the motive? motivation to do this come from? I feel like just being there at the store. I was like, okay, back in the day, you know, everyone was drink and lean. I mean, I guess they're still doing it now.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But I was like, this is a perfect spot to do it at, you know? Right. And I did it. And yeah, I mean, that did pretty good the video before, but then that Instagram got taken down. Really? Yeah. Because I noticed you're on a new Instagram with like a thousand followers. Yeah, I had one back in the day.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I mean, that's not the only place that you know me from as well. bit uh how else do i know you i used to work with a tattoo artist that uh yes okay that was you yes okay wow so we'll work with it well i mean we have a lot to talk about then yeah there's a lot yeah romeo talk about him i got a you can't probably i mean he got a restraining order against me and sure really yeah back in the day like i mean it was temporary you know but it was because i guess i think when i went to court they said like i had his phone number up on instagram which it was like on a court document. So it was like,
Starting point is 00:03:32 it was like public record. Anyone could have had his phone number, but you know, like I was trolling back then. So let me just lay the scene for people who don't know what we're talking about right now. There was a tattoo artist
Starting point is 00:03:41 and I suppose is a tattoo artist who I have multiple tattoos from him in fact. I have 90% of mine from him. Right, and his name's, and so does Kendrick Lamar, right? Kendrick Lamar. I mean, yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:52 a lot of people. That's weird to think that Kendrick. Technically we could talk about it because honestly, I don't give a fuck. Kendrick got most of his tattoos from a dude who is now mega canceled, which is kind of wild to think that
Starting point is 00:04:03 perhaps the greatest rapper of our generation. But that's neither here nor there. But anyway, he got exposed at a certain point for basically messing around with underage chicks. Yeah, through DM and stuff like that. And at first it, like, popped up one time and, like, it just seemed like it was, like,
Starting point is 00:04:21 just extortion for money or something. Okay. Because there was no actual girl's face to the Twitter account or whatever. And so I think that's why, like, nothing happened really. Like he just got let go from that incident and I was still working with him. And then the second time around was when I was about to quit.
Starting point is 00:04:40 That was like the same week that Juice passed away. Oh, wow, that was the same time. Yeah. And I was like, and it just got crazy during that time. And I was like, okay, I'm going to leave. And then I started trolling. Because you were his assistant. Yeah, technically I was the assistant.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I was the shop manager, things like that. Okay. According to him now, I'm like the store janitor, I guess. Wait, you're still at that shop? No, no, no. No, I don't. I do my own, you know, crypto. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Big crypto guy, you know, I'm like... But where were you at in life that you became Romeo's assistant? Okay, so technically this is how life started. I mean, I joined the military, did the military for a little bit. I mean, for the time that I had to do it. And then once I got out, I was like, what do I do next? So I went to college. I did set design, built sets and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I did that for a few years. But I'm like, that... guy that just likes to not be lazy but at the same time just likes to help everyone out and work so i just was like doing everything that you could do so i i did i ran a waffle truck for a while um what did i do i worked with with that guy over at that tattoo shop i also manage another tattoo artist right now um you just been figuring stuff out yeah i mean i i don't really need to do too much you know like I've done a lot so I'm like I don't kind of get him by you know my memory of the cancellation of Romeo was that it seemed like okay this isn't good but keem star from drama alert was really the
Starting point is 00:06:13 one leading the charge in terms of exposing him before keem star hung up his YouTube content and he got Romeo to get on a call with him on an episode of drama alert and keem basically got him to basically admit that he had done this and also it was it was like Romeo had never argued with someone who actually was trying to you know corner him because it felt like very quickly he started basically saying that the girls that he had been involved with were the ones who were really at fault because they were trying to manipulate and you know cancel him which was a weird thing to hear a grown man try to argue because obviously you you're the adult in the situation.
Starting point is 00:07:00 There's a higher standard for your behavior. But what was that time period like as far as what you could say in terms of just seeing his whole kind of unravel, right? Yeah, it was just crazy. I was like, damn. And I knew him like for a long time, too. I knew him like 10 years before. Or for about 10 years, technically. My first tattoo was from him.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Now I just, I even got matching tattoos. Right. Which is crazy. And were you starting to think along the road that he was a weirdo or that he was perhaps not the best guy? Once the first like incident happened where he was on drama alert the first time, I was like, I was like, okay, yeah, he's a little weird, you know? But like then it sounded like he got extorted. So when the second incident came around, that was me that brought it up. And then someone brought it up to me saying, hey, some girl on Twitter is trying to get a hold of Keem started.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Now, I was in contact with Keemstar already from the previous incident because he reached out to me. And yeah, so I was like, okay, I could get this to Keemstar because I have like that end. Yeah, literally I did the investigation first. I had all like the text messages and everything. I sent it over to Keemstar afterwards and then he got in contact with that girl. So but before all this cracked off, was there any signs to you that he might not have been a great guy? Or was everything fine before that? everything was fine before.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Okay. Yeah. Like, I mean, I never knew like, I mean, never knew he was weird, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Like, I mean, when I seen his YouTube videos, he was kind of weird, you know? Right. But, yeah,
Starting point is 00:08:38 I didn't know anything like that. I didn't know he was like a weirdo, so. Okay. And so how do you end up deciding to separate from him? Was it entirely because of the stuff that was coming out in the media? No,
Starting point is 00:08:48 so I was also, so I was the shop manager, but at that time, too, TikTokers and people and yeah technically if I did it at the shop I was supposed to give 50% or whatnot but I was just starting off at that time and then he just was like when are you going to get people in here you know to do teeth you're always going to them and I was like yeah because they don't want to come here because you're a weirdo that's kind of like what led up to that and then I left and yeah
Starting point is 00:09:20 I literally just left because I've left before I was like yeah I don't want to work here no more and then he wanted me back. So, yeah. That time I just left and I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. Okay. And you haven't spoke to him since then? Nope.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And is he still touching? Well, I mean, since, I mean, court was like a couple years back. And he tried to actually sue you? What's crazy is he got a restraining order against me, but who would want to go close to him at all? Like, I mean, he sent his brother after me on Melrose when I did a pop up at cookies and kicks.
Starting point is 00:09:50 His brother did what just showed up trying to? He showed up with a couple of, people they stole my tooth gym technically and uh yeah it was weird he got fucked up there's a video kind of he got fucked up on malrose what your friends
Starting point is 00:10:03 f*** him up no no no he basically was trying to like lift me up and like kind of take me to the ground or some shit and the video doesn't really show that but I I fucked him up with some tear gas oh tear gas that's always good but uh okay there was a whole did you follow the lawsuit where he ended up having to give
Starting point is 00:10:20 his gold play button to kem star oh yeah I was I was following that I was it during that same time was when the I mean I got the defamation I got the cease and desist the same time that Kimster got a cease and desist or whatever the that was happening during that time okay yeah so I was just I was just this is fun you know and then I posted that on the on my story you know the cease and des he had his contact on it so then he took me to court after that wow and what's he been doing you think he does he touch you out of the same spot same spot I think and then also he started music okay Yeah, he's a fucking singer. He always looked like an emo singer. Oh, it's fucking, it's horrible. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:10:58 He has a song called California Dreaming or some shit, California Dreams. And that's the name of his shop. It's a weird, it's a weird dynamic where tattoo artists get canceled, and then they kind of disappear from social media, but they keep doing their thing in real life and just try not to attract attention. And it seems like that actually works out pretty good because I know a tattoo artist who basically was driving with a friend. You probably know what I'm talking. about and accidentally got in a car accident his homie died and obviously you know he looks pretty
Starting point is 00:11:31 bad as the guy who basically was responsible for this dude dying and he's still doing his thing he just doesn't really post on instagram or anything yeah that's how i think romeo's doing it i don't know i mean i'm blocked but i don't really like care to look like it's like weird right but um sometimes people will be like yo look what romeo's doing or some shit some you know and i'm like okay but that's that hasn't been around for a while you know like but they were sending me stuff before and I was like okay cool got it but I know I know that shit was I don't know I know after I left that shit fucked up business for him I think yeah I'm sure but you know hey best of luck to him hopefully turns the shit around um but uh career
Starting point is 00:12:09 I don't know but uh he so okay so then we fast forward I didn't see you for quite a few years and then all of a sudden you pop up in the media and as soon as I saw the picture of you I'm like I fucking know this guy and I sent it to my team right away and I'm like okay remind me how much interaction we had with his dude because I remember him coming around on Melrose and they were like
Starting point is 00:12:30 that's the guy from the lean dab that guy fucking applaud to work for no jumper at one point I'm putting the pieces together they didn't mention the Romeo thing so I kind of forgot about that but okay no one wants to mention that now we're caught up to speed how did I mean okay like where do we even begin here
Starting point is 00:12:46 like what is your relationship with only fans and porn in general I mean, I have a lot of friends that are in the industry. I mean, you know all of them. Only fans, I mean, I have an only fans account, you know, now. How did you become friends with all these people? Well, I mean, I met Gina in the beginning. Valentina?
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we should put her in the video or something, you know, because I kind of work with her still. But we'll figure it out. She's a porn star. Yeah, she's a porn star. So I met her, and that was at the tattoo shop. actually and she was getting tattooed by the guy that I managed now.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Okay. Yeah, that same day we became like friends and, uh, yeah, I mean, we hung out a lot and then I kind of was in the circle of all the other porn stars and I was like, okay, this is pretty cool. So it fucked up porn for me, you know? They fucked up porn for you meeting all these girls? No, it didn't like fuck it up, but like if I go on like, say I go on porn hub, I'm going to see like Gina or someone, which is a friend of mine, you know, and I don't want to watch that, you know, but.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Gina's a friend of mine too and I've still beat off to her many times in the last year. I mean, this is like there's all kinds of girls. I have a different experience with people where even my girl, she says I can't really watch much porn these days because I don't want to see people that we know. And I say, that's exactly what I want to see. Yeah. I want to shake a girl's hand at a party and then go beat off to her the next day. I guess I guess I could see that technically. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I guess it's different when I work with her. You know, like I was her assistant for a little while too. During COVID, I like... Working with her and beating off tour, it could be weird. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I mean, I guess it could be weird. I don't know if I'd beat off to my boss, but I also never had a sexy boss. Yeah, I can see that, I guess, you know? But I'm a different type of guy.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm like, you know, I'm not like a weirdo how the internet thinks I am, you know? Really? Yeah. I don't know. You seem like you got a little bit of a weirdo streaking you. I mean, I guess I could pull off the weird-looking vibe, you know? I mean, they made it look good on the internet, you know, like... Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:49 So what about? Ruby Rose though you have a particular fixation on her yeah I love that girl she's my queen yeah she's a baddie there's no denying but she doesn't do real porn so like you're yeah I mean I have every I have every image of everything of hers on my
Starting point is 00:15:05 only fans account that I that I purchased I guess supposedly okay yeah no I mean I didn't purchase none of that shit but if you want to beat off to Gina Valentina you can watch a video or her slurping up nine nuts in a row whereas with Ruby Rose you don't even really get to see a nipple, right? Or are there nipples in the DMs?
Starting point is 00:15:25 No, I don't think there's nipples in the DMs. So, yeah, that's not right. I figured if there was that they would have leaked on Twitter already. Yeah. No, I mean, I know. They should be leaked on Twitter. You can't even see it on Reddit, you know? But, no, I didn't purchase none of our only fans' content.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Ruby Rose. Yeah. Okay. So this was all a hoax? I got in the situation where I just went and took a picture with Ruby Rose, right? Okay. I got paid for it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I didn't know exactly what it was for. You know, I think it was like a promo thing or something or whatever the fuck it was, you know? And I met up with her. I take this picture next day. I'm the top, I'm like the fucking OnlyFans top spender. I knew there was like some kind of thing where there was like, had to do with the only fans top spender shit,
Starting point is 00:16:10 but I didn't know what the fuck was going on. So they made it look like I was her top spender, you know? So they didn't fill you in on this beforehand? They didn't say, hey, we have this big idea. This is what we're going to do. The idea was like they were like we're gonna use your I mean they kind of let me know that I was gonna be like this like one of her like Subscribers I guess on only fans or something like that right I was like okay that sounds cool you know I didn't know I was gonna blow up to this big huge story You know they said it was gonna be big and then you know I was like okay cool this is kind of cool whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:16:38 I was like when's money is gonna start coming in you know like I was like I want some money out of this And how are you gonna get paid for it and you're saying that they didn't tell you beforehand that this was gonna be the storyline Well, I knew there was this only fans and like the person's the top spender, but I didn't know the story was going to come out to be bigger than what the story is now, you know, like where I'm like the obsessive guy who's in love with her and so the $60,000 number was fake. It's a real account, but it's not me. It's like an actual account that's paid into Ruby Rose. So some guy did spend $60 grand on her. It just wasn't you. Yeah, it wasn't me. And at the same time, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:19 getting all this like hate and shit. So I'm like, okay, this is kind of getting weird. I was like, what's the next thing that's going to happen? And then I did say we should like get some kind of tattoo going, you know? Like, you know, like I'll get her name or something tattooed on me. I didn't think I was going to get a portrait. Where's the portrait? On the back of my leg.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Okay. So now when that, so first I'm the top spender and then it comes out to me being, I didn't know I was a Bitcoin billionaire. You know, I mean, I have some money, you know, but I'm not like Bitcoin billionaire. You know, so the story is coming out, but I didn't, I didn't hear about that side of the story. Did you put that narrative out there or did her and her team put that up? Yeah, her and her team. I didn't know anything about that part, you know, like. And then I go to the weed shop, right?
Starting point is 00:18:00 And this girl's like, hey, you're that crypto billionaire guy or whatever, which I was like, okay, that sounds kind of cool. But then also, you're on true life fucking porn addiction. And I was like, I was? And then I looked into that afterwards. But so this. Were you on true life? Point addiction or because I saw that too I saw that there was like me does it? Oh
Starting point is 00:18:22 that wasn't you at all. I saw that a picture and I just assumed that it was. Wow is nothing real. Holy shit. No so I mean the so I know about the OnlyFans account top spender shit kind of but I didn't know it was going to be as big as this
Starting point is 00:18:38 was going to be you know I didn't even know what was going on and then I get the tattoo and then it turns out to be I'm like some obsessive like stocker guy named Brandon which was the guy on a true life where he was addicted to porn and that's why like in the messages it says brandon only fan creep or some shit i wake up i see this this post and it's like the tattoo one right and then i'm like seeing all the the text messages and i'm like i didn't even like read it like i seen some of it and
Starting point is 00:19:07 it seemed like it was really bad so i like just turned my phone off yeah that shit was crazy i don't know half like i don't know how they generated that message but that shit kind of like made me go crazy for a few days. It was making you go crazy. Not crazy, but like anxiety, you know, so it was like... Well, okay, on one hand, it's kind of cool to be famous. On the other hand, if they're painting a narrative of you, that's totally different from who you actually are as a person, that's probably less fun. Yeah. Because, I mean, there was all these different narratives.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Like, I'm a Bitcoin billionaire. I'm a porn addict. I don't know. Love Ruby Rose so much that I would get a tattoo over. Uh-huh. So, yeah. Okay. I want to speak to all the people out there who are looking at what you've just said and they're feeling kind of dumb because they're thinking, holy shit, I can't believe I got fooled. Nothing is ever real on the internet anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I can't believe that I got tricked. I was in the same exact boat. There was a guy. I won't say his name, but he's very, very high up at OnlyFans. Like he works in OnlyFans corporate. And he was here. Me and Leonard were doing a meeting with him talking about some stuff. OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:20:16 related and we obviously ended up bringing up your situation because it came out like that day and the guy kind of rose his eyes at me and he's like yeah that shit's not real and i immediately felt the same way that everybody at home feels which is i felt like a fucking dummy for falling for it and even earlier that day i had said to lena i'm like you know how easy this would be for us to one up right all we got to do is find some guy who looks a little off and then make a fake screenshot that says that he spent $150,000 or $200,000 and we could kind of like leapfrog the news cycle and replace Lamar with some other guy and say,
Starting point is 00:20:55 oh, look how much this guy. And, you know, it's like there's a constant quest to like fake shit to get attention in terms of only fans. So I guess on one hand we shouldn't be surprised. But on the other hand, damn, Ruby Rose. It makes me think a lot too. I didn't know that you were going to bust that move out. Yeah, and like, I mean, they were like kind of like hinting things.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Like when the team was talking to me Or the agency or whatever the fuck it's called I don't even know what it's called They weren't like telling me everything that was going on So it was like I kind of had like After I was like realizing what was going on I was picturing it in my head after a while And I was like this is what they're doing
Starting point is 00:21:32 They're like trying to They got the character which is me And then now they're gonna figure out something else To that's when the true life shit came in So now they were able to do this And I don't know You got to respect it. in a weird way, but do you feel somewhat what, like taking advantage of?
Starting point is 00:21:49 I mean, once I realized how much money she was making off of this, and I was like, okay, like, I, I, when I got the tattoo, they asked me how much I wanted for, like, her people, her team or whatever asked me, what do I think is a good price for the tattoo? Now, I was like saying 15 to 20K, you know? I feel, I feel like I knew what was going to happen with this. I knew it was going to, like, go out of proportion, and maybe it would make me look like, I thought about it. Maybe it was going to make me look like a creep and shit.
Starting point is 00:22:18 But I mean, I have the most random tattoos on my body that I was like, okay, I could do this and I could still pull it off. Right. And down the road, maybe five, ten years from now, people are going to say, what's that a tattoo of? You can go say, oh, it's a hot, light skin girl. They might not even remember Ruby Rose. Although maybe she'll also be, like, the most famous person in America. Maybe they will remember. I'll just be like that's my ex.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. She's dead to me now, though. Wait, really? That's how you feel? No, no, no. I'm just getting... Oh. No, I mean, honestly, like, when I met her, she was cool.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Like, you know, I mean, like... I know, like, her team's in on this, you know? So, I mean, I don't know if this... I mean, the way that she was to me, like, she was super dope. They made me look like I was, like, I have, like, 220 pictures in my phone. Right. Of me and her. So it's like...
Starting point is 00:23:05 They used one picture. It makes me look like I'm a weirdo. But, yeah, no, I was, like, I was hanging out with her for probably, like, two hours, maybe three tops. We smoked. What else? I almost tried to freestyle, you know, like a little bit.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You freestyle? I do a lot. Yeah. There was also, okay, there was another round in this whole viral cycle in which there was a screenshot or a screen recording of a bunch of texts. Yeah. Right? And were those actually you? No. That's why I was like, they used the Brandon
Starting point is 00:23:39 weird Onlyfans guy or one. Right. And that was what a lot of people said. was look at this fool who spent all this money on this girl and she won't even save him under his real name. She saves him as weird only fans guy. And this basically prompted all of the red pill grifters,
Starting point is 00:23:55 the poetic flakos of the world who you just met, etc. to all kind of use this as content because it fulfilled their pre assumptions, which is that the world is full of suckers who are basically being taken advantage of by these only fans, girls.
Starting point is 00:24:11 And when it comes to creating fake narrative, in the public eye, this is what you want to do. You want to basically fulfill the previous beliefs that people already held, and you were just sort of like a perfect stand-in for, you know, we know that all these people are spending money on OnlyFans. We don't necessarily get to see them. And the idea that you would spend, you had spent this insane amount of money was very, very captivating to people.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah, I've never spent a dollar on OnlyFans to this day. Ever. Actually, you know, when you create your account, technically, I think it charges your card like a little bit. So I guess maybe I did spend like a dollar or something, maybe on OnlyFound? Oh, it'll give you what? It'll give you like four cents and then you have to confirm by saying you got a four cent deposit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah, some shit like that. I've never actually had to deal with it on other sites. Wow. So, okay. What, like, I mean, what has it been like becoming this famous for such a bizarre thing? Like, what does this experience been like? I still, bad. I was thinking in my head it might have been bad, but, you know, I got like,
Starting point is 00:25:13 reassurance because people are like your friends know that you're not this person so just go out in public you know and I was like I can't go out in public with like the way that things are making me look like I'm a Bitcoin billionaire all this shit and then you know I just went out one day and it was cool you know I mean people were asking me do I know ruby rose though like I was like yeah I know I mean I know her yeah but have you told anybody about this being fake besides me no I mean the just the people that know and And, I mean, even my aunt, she hit me up saying, you're spending $62,000 on this girl. And I, this is, I haven't done, like, DM and stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And I was like, no, I've spent more like $76,000 now because I knew the money was going up and shit. So I've been playing the story, you know, playing along with it. Because I knew, like, I can't really tell anyone, you know. I have, like, friends from, like, 10 years ago hitting me up, like, all of a sudden. And then they're, like, wanting to probably hear the story, you know? Because they know something's up, you know? Okay, yeah. And the crazy thing about it is that on one hand, I'm thinking, oh, I bet they swore you to secrecy.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But I bet they didn't, right? No NDA, no contract, nothing. And I was like thinking in my head, why? Like, what did they do? Because this right here, us having this conversation, if this clip right here goes viral on Twitter or whatever, it doesn't matter. It's actually good for her because she already got what she was hoping to get or what her team was hoping to get, which is a bunch of media attention. This right here is further media attention. Yes, it kind of makes her and her team look like they're kind of full of shit, but I mean, she's not the fucking president.
Starting point is 00:26:45 She's the only fan's chick. So it's like, is it really that bad a look? I don't think so. It's just another reason for everybody to talk about her. And I've seen this over and over and over where do you remember when Black China was super viral for them saying she made $20 million in a month? And I remember sitting there looking at that thinking, no way. Absolutely not. And then you fast forward a couple years and she's like reportedly bankrupt.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Hopefully she wasn't making $20 million in a month and becoming bankrupt. Now, to be fair, I kind of do believe the bad baby made like $18 million in a month. I've seen the screenshots. That doesn't seem so out of the realm of possibility. Yeah. But Black China, no, I'm not having it. I'm not scurrying that one either. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:28 But so what made you decide to come clean? Was this a hard decision? Or do you feel like this isn't any way? Are you turning your back on through the road? I technically reached out to the team, you know, and I said, hey, so where do we go from here? Because this ain't benefiting me at all. You know, I'm like, how's this benefiting me? I have all these podcasts hitting me up.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I mean, I need to make some money out of this or I need to do something because I'm not doing anything now. I'm just trolling on the internet. And they told me let it die down first, you know, and then you could do the podcast or whatever. And I was like, well, shit, I don't have no contract or anything. So then I was like, well, that's not benefiting me. And then he's like, well, I thought you didn't want to do this no more. And I was like, what do you mean? I guess probably like deal with all like this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:28:13 So I feel like they think maybe I'm still going to run along with the story or something. But I don't know. I'm just going along with what I know. And, yeah, I don't know. A lot of people were like just crazy. I don't know. It's just crazy on the internet. They're like, I mean, everyone gets hate.
Starting point is 00:28:32 So I was like, all right. This is cool. But did the hate? It didn't really affect me. It just like. Right. Because who the fuck cares, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I mean, I realize, like, once, if I fall asleep, you know, and I wake up, it's actually better to see all this stuff on the internet than be up all night, just scrolling through just seeing what people are saying because it definitely affects you for sure. So I realized all that afterwards. I mean, I've been in the limelight already. Just not like this. Like, this is like crazier. I mean, I've dealt with all these rappers and everything like that.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Right, because, okay, from my perspective, I have very much chosen. to be a celebrity and to be in the public eye and to like make myself go viral by doing stupid fucking stunts from time to time and you know people think that the whole you know the game show thing was fake before the scene actually came out or there was a time period where people thought that the jason love thing was fake and it was all just going to be a big fake out that you know she didn't actually sleep with them or whatever we're kind of willing to go the extra mile to do this crazy viral shit regardless of the hate from your perspective you didn't necessarily necessarily really sign up for this and especially just the negative attention. I could see how
Starting point is 00:29:44 it's probably kind of stressful and you didn't really realize what you were biting off. Yeah, I didn't know that was going to be the effect. I didn't know that's how they were going to betray the story, you know, like they were, I just woke up and that's what I seen on the internet. Like this guy, Brandon, weird guy that's sending her all these text messages and then people just told me not to read it, you know? And I said, okay. Still to this time. I haven't read it, but I like listen to a YouTube video of someone reading it today just so I could like hear what it said and I was like, wow, that's funny. Anytime you see anything about only fans in the media, you should be cautious about believing. I know for sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Because literally the entire business model is predicated on the idea of you get attention and then you make only fan sales. So girls are literally willing to do anything. And the early, early version of this back on the day on Twitter, I remember like 2011, I think, Her name was Bree Olson was like the queen of being on Twitter and just tweeting, you know, God, I just need a nut on my face right now. Or God, I wish I just had five dicks inside. Just like the craziest shit you could ever think of. But we were young and we were not familiar with like trolling or people being sort of disingenuous for attention on the internet.
Starting point is 00:30:59 We thought that this girl was really like that, that she was actually just sitting around craving dick all day. And I mean, girls now are just doing the same thing. It's just you have to work a little bit harder to get the people to actually buy in on your narrative. Yep. Yeah, it's out of control. So, okay, wait, what is your porn diet? What do you actually consume and how often? My porn diet?
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah, what are you watching? I mean... You said you never spend money on Onlyfans. Are you out here getting free content? Well, now I am. I mean, Twitter's awesome, you know? Like, I got all these girls that want to shoot content, but if the story... Wait, really?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Anybody well known? There might be, yeah, possibly. Are you going to take them up on it? I mean, I'd have to do it probably today, you know, before the story comes out because, you know. Nah, I think you're famous regardless. Okay, yeah, it'll be fine then, you know. And even though we're debunking the whole thing right now, there's going to be a lot of people who don't care and are going to be on board with it regardless. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 No, I mean, honestly, like, I was like, I feel like I'm supposed to figure out where to go from here now. Yeah. I can't just be like, hey, I need a job somewhere. You know, I have to like... Notorious masturbator. Like, yeah. So I created my only fan's account. I don't know what else I can do.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I mean... What are you packing down there? I can't really say yet. You got a hog on you or no? Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, I mean, you don't really give me big dick energy. I'm going to be totally real with you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Maybe that's just because you're not really trying, but... I mean, I'm just like that guy that doesn't give a fuck really. Like, I mean, I don't, I don't care too much, so I don't know. I just, that's my energy, you know. Just not caring? Yeah, I just, I mean, I'm like guy that has an open schedule to where people know that they could rely on me and help them out if I need to, you know, help them out. So that's what I've been doing for, like, the past shit, four years, five years. We're just keeping an open schedule?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah, and like, I'll just, like, fly out to Miami and help Gina out or. I mean, I do the tattoo stuff. So you're just a professional nice guy? Professional nice guy. I know. I feel like the opposite of that, because my schedule is packed for a week's set of time. I know. I just, I can't make time for shit.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I never had a calendar until now. I have to, like, put stuff in the calendar because I'm like, it's kind of hard to remember things now. Yeah. Before, I'd never have to do that. So. Wow. Yeah. Things are changing. Things are changing, yep.
Starting point is 00:33:30 What's your attitude on porn, though? You're open-minded when it comes to point? I'm open-minded about it, you know, honestly? I mean, I feel like I'm friends with a lot of these girls, so it's kind of, I mean, I don't want to watch their stuff. You know, I'm friends with them, you know, but if I meet them, you know, and I'm not their friend yet, I mean, I might be down to watch what they're doing or do something with them. Right. You ever bang any of these porn stars? No.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Never really got around to it or what? I just never thought about it too much, you know? I mean. Better to keep it as a fantasy? Yeah, fantasy, you know? Or like just a friendly relationship, you know, because I don't know. some of these porn sites are like based in Germany and shit so you could probably beat off to all these hot-ass girls from Europe and shit that you're never going to run into
Starting point is 00:34:16 that's true I don't really know what sites I'm talking about but I do remember back in the day I used to jerk off to porn and would kind of like slowly realize like oh fuck these bitches are from all over the place like they don't have an American accent on them yeah I don't know why the Snapchat glasses I feel like those disappeared Didn't they stop making those quite a few years ago? Oh, man, I don't even know what happened with them. I got them when they first came out. So, like, I don't even know how long ago it was, but I don't use them no more. I mean, they're prescriptions. So I use them as prescription. But I mean, I'm not blind.
Starting point is 00:34:51 It's like kind of like my look still. But it's got to freak people out a little bit because they feel like you're making content of them or no. I mean, technically you're supposed to press a button and it lights up, things like that. But I always have to explain to them that it's not recording, you know. I can't wear them at the casino. you know so I can't play like table games with them like I could see through the cards or some shit I don't know that makes sense but uh yeah I mean I just I guess they're I don't know cool so what are you planning to oh I got to ask about the shirt too oh yeah because the same shirt that you had on in the photo with Ruby Rose same pants and same
Starting point is 00:35:28 oh you came in the same exact guard I was like I might as well wear this does that shirt have a special place in your heart man I have a lot of shirts like this like this company that I fuck with they uh i just get all their shirts um what's it called assholes live forever that's what i thought that was one of theirs yeah yeah so i mean like when i went actually so when i went to go take this photo i was like i already knew it had something to do with the internet so i was like this might be a good photo to wear a good shirt to wear this photo in good shirt to wear the to take a photo in right and uh yeah i took two other shirts with me and i didn't even like take them inside we just took the photos but Yeah, no. I mean, I don't really have a browser history too much. You know, I have...
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah. Do you have a girlfriend? I used to be married, so... To who? Some girl, um, when I was in the military, you know, so... But you... No, I'm just kidding. I was afraid. But, uh... You got me. Yeah. No. I, uh...
Starting point is 00:36:28 I've had girlfriends, you know, but I mean, I work too much. Like, literally, I... I pay rent in one place. You just said that you keep an open schedule and you're a professional, nice guy doing favors for you. Yeah, I feel like that's why I keep my schedule open. If I had your girlfriend, I wouldn't be able to do that, you know? Uh-huh. But. Don't you call that building a life for yourself? True.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You know, the more I don't have free time, the more that I kind of become an adult. Yeah, that's. There's one way to look at it. That's one way to look at it, yeah. You could be a free spirit for the rest of your life and just sort of hang out and do your thing. Yeah. You said that you were dating a billionaire. Wait, I said that?
Starting point is 00:37:06 I think so, right? Didn't you tell me you were dating a billionaire? When? Maybe I misread the text message or something like that. Okay. Oh. But so do you really have a huge amount of money from crypto or just like a decent amount? I mean, I have some money, but it's not, I mean, I don't make money off of crypto, you know?
Starting point is 00:37:23 I just, I have crypto, but I just don't have the amount that they make it seem like I have, you know? Okay. So what are you going to do with this energy around you? Because everybody wants you to be this crazy porn weirdo, which I guess. I'm going to start being that guy. It's good you're not. Wait, so you are. You're just going to...
Starting point is 00:37:43 No, no, I was just going along with what you were saying just now. Because people want to see that. So I was like, maybe I'll just become that guy. Yeah, because that's one way you could have played this is you could have just kept acting as if this was all... It was all real. Yeah. And just like, really be that guy, but also, like, what are you going to do with that?
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, what am I going to get out of it? Like, what can I do? Can I get a job, like, at some place? Because they're going to look me up. And you could be, like, an ambassador. If you go to AVN... I am going to go to avian. See, there you go.
Starting point is 00:38:10 You're going to be kind of lit in that environment. There's going to be a new topic. Because there's no famous porn consumers. There's famous porn actors and stars and even some of the agents or managers might be a little bit famous or something. But there's no famous porn consumers, even though there are more consumers of porn than probably almost any other content out there. Yeah. That's true. So that's something to consider.
Starting point is 00:38:35 get like a browsers deal or something I don't know what they might do with you Or an only fan's deal Reverse Bukaki where a bunch of girls Squirt on your face And my beard's gonna be all fucked up Would you do that Did you do some like weird ass shit like that
Starting point is 00:38:50 Or you got some kind of moral obligation not to I know I don't like fucking with the beard too much I haven't even cut this off ever The beard will be fine Wait your whole life you never cut it No Holy shit I became bald you know
Starting point is 00:39:01 So I was like I guess I gotta keep some hair on my body I guess honestly my beard would probably look something like that if I just never cut it. I'm gonna be grosser. Sometimes I get it like trimmed a little bit but you know like it hasn't been like cut off. Like I feel like if I cut it off it's not gonna grow back.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So the beard is what's keeping you from doing a reverse Bukaki? No, I mean if that's what people want to see I guess I have to do it, right? Well, no. Not just because they want it. You don't have to do what the fans want. If it's worth it, then you know,
Starting point is 00:39:29 maybe I'll do it, you know? Right. Wow. That would be a good video I could sell on only fans right yeah you might need a manager i don't know who the fuck would manage you but it seems like there's something to manage yeah i feel like i need more of an assistant now you know yeah you could stop being an assistant and get i mean you could continue to be an assistant and also have your own assistant that would be tight it's like pyramid of power wow well i don't know man very interesting last couple weeks of weeks of your life huh yeah i didn't even know it's weeks i
Starting point is 00:40:01 seen today that it's been a week yeah no yeah you're right it's been like 11 days I 11 days okay yeah and I'm I'm like now I got to figure out what to do you know so if that guy from out from only fans hadn't told me that this was fake I would have been flabbergasted by you telling me that during this interview but I was surprisingly right when we were outside um that one guy that I was talking to I don't know what was the name mocha poetic flaca okay I know quite a name right Yeah But I knew you wanted to hear like some part of the story
Starting point is 00:40:34 You know and I was like Wait these people believe this shit Yeah honestly like I'm like fuck this is crazy Because I mean I I don't know I know there's so many sides of the story I don't know what people think of the story If they think I'm a weirdo
Starting point is 00:40:49 You know like because of the text message thread But I mean Flacco it's kind of like Even if he has a hunch that he might be getting trolled It's it benefits if it's him to not act like he knows he's getting trolled because he made a YouTube video that might have got, I don't know, 30,000 views or some shit by talking about you. So even if he has a hunch that he might be getting trolled, it's kind of like better for him
Starting point is 00:41:11 to just go along with it. So that's why there's probably a lot of people in the porn game who could have guessed that it was fake, but. Well, there is. I mean, they already know. I mean, everyone knows. I mean, on the porn side, they know kind of like, hey, that's not how Lamar is. Like I was just hanging out with Lamar.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Oh, okay, yeah. It's just, it's. Because I knew you, but I didn't know so much about you that I thought, like, oh, yeah, that guy wouldn't spend $60,000 on porn. I, I mean, I guess I kind of could see that dude's putting a shit a lot of money on porn. But what, 60,000 in a month? That's what it was supposed to be. That went out to like a 90 or something now. Yeah, because that never made sense to me because I just, I mean, what is the video cost in the DMs?
Starting point is 00:41:55 Maybe 100 bucks. is like the most high-priced video probably. Maybe, possibly. So what am I supposed to believe that you bought like hundreds of... Every video, maybe she did customs, you know? Like, I don't know. I don't know how she'd be able to do customs or have customs because I don't think she shows anything on there.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It would have already been leaked. What the fuck would she actually be selling for that much money? Yeah, never really made a lot of sense of that. Her Instagram photos, maybe? I don't know. Like, I feel like any girl that doesn't show anything on on OnlyFans, it's like more of the... What they would post on Instagram,
Starting point is 00:42:25 but just not what they're posting on Instagram. So they still have clothes on probably. Maybe they wet their shirt a little bit. I mean, me and none of the plugger out here on onlyplug talk.com having sex with people. And then meanwhile, Ruby Rose is like the rare girl that's just so hot that she doesn't have to do anything and she's still killing it.
Starting point is 00:42:42 She is odd, actually. Honestly, I didn't even know who the fuck she was. Like, really when I, I mean, I heard the name, things like that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:49 I mean, I heard some of the controversy in the media beforehand. She said, a girl that basically said anyone could say the N-Worthy. That's what I knew her. Ruby Rose? Yeah, she said something like she did a tweet or something like that, like said like, I don't know. She tweeted something like that back in the day and I was like, that's how I know this girl.
Starting point is 00:43:05 She's probably just like sick of people telling her that she can't say the N word because she's not dark enough if I had to guess. Yeah. You see this all the time where girls who are, you know, 50% black or whatever, they still get kind of told that they can't say it. And then they typically aren't too happy about that. I don't know that girl whoa vicky she shouldn't have to say it right I think she stopped saying it I could smoke on here for sure well vicky definitely black um what do you uh how's the dab life going you're like the only person I know still running around with a dabber yeah I mean it's awesome I got one of these tattooed on my like too really yeah so you just get a tattoo of everything you like yep
Starting point is 00:43:44 and they give it they give me puff codes all the time I get everything for free that's the good part about it you ever think you're getting a little over high Yeah, I get high a lot. If I was smashing that shit all day, I don't think it would be good for my productivity or life. Well, I stopped smoking for like a month. Me too. Then I started doing it again. I came back again when this all, all this shit happened.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Oh, this brought you back to the dabs. Yeah, like I had this just sitting in my closet. This one, it was like brand new. And I was like, okay, I'm going to just go get dabs now. And yeah, I just smoke. I don't even eat no more. I spend more money on dabs than I do on food. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So you got dual vices, pouring in weed. Well, I guess the porn one's fake, but... How many times you jerk off a day on average? Not that many. Maybe once a week. I feel like the weed might be getting in the way of that. You should quit the weed so you can jerk off more. Yeah, I mean, I fuck periodically, you know, throughout the week.
Starting point is 00:44:42 So it's like, I don't need to jerk off half the time. Jesus Christ. Okay. Anything else we need to know? Anything we need to look forward to? Yeah, I mean, my only fan's content that's going to be coming out. I don't know what it's going to be, but it's going to have something to do with Bitcoin and fucking. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Bitcoin is a weird prop for porn because you can't even see it. True. You have like a Bitcoin logo. I'm just going to have the screen in the back of Bitcoin rising or lowering. Oh, yeah. And you have to do different sex acts depending on the price. If it goes up, then I go up. And if it goes down, then she has to peg you.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Fuck that. No? Nah, not that. I'm not going to do that, you know? Okay. Well, probably the most unlikely path towards getting a no jumper interview since I interviewed produced by Zach
Starting point is 00:45:34 who got an interview from leaving a lot of comments on our Instagram. And also AOKD, who lives in a tent. He sleeps with his head in a puddle. What the fuck? He goes, Jane snatched. And he also leaves a lot of comments. All right, anything you want them to check out?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Anything that the people need to keep in mind if they want to stay in touch with you? I guess follow me on social media, I guess. Twitter is awesome. Oh, I don't have your Twitter, but your Instagram is what? One of one spender? Yeah, I changed that literally like a week ago. But the number one of one spender.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And then OnlyFans and Twitter is my only fan's name is Only Fans Crypto Well. And that's the same as my Twitter. So, yeah. Maybe you should get more into the pay pig world. You know about the pay pigs? No, what's that? fucking like find them or yeah just dudes who donate shit loads of money in exchange for attention that yeah I might as well pay pig it's just a funny it's a funny like a couple of syllables in a row
Starting point is 00:46:35 got a lot of pay pill pay pigs out there it's hard for me to say it I don't know why um all right Lam apes appreciate you appreciate you too this is fun thanks so much for filling us in shout out to all the people out there I would love to know what you think in the comments if you are in the mood to beat off right now only plug talk dot com but aside from that No Jumber, the coolest podcast world. Check us on on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, Instagram, etc. Like, comment, and subscribe. Nojumber.com.
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