Rubi Rose's #1 Spender Tells ALL!
00:05No Jumper, the coolest podcast in the world.And today we're having a conversation with perhaps one of the greatest gooners of our generation.Do you relate to that term?I relate, yes.I guess I'm a gooner.What's a gooner exactly?A gooner is like a guy who spends a large percentage of his time in his basement, bedroom, etc.Multiple different monitors set up, corn playing on the monitors.
00:35And oftentimes they're known to pleasure themselves seven or eight times in a day.Okay, I guess we could go along with that.I mean, yeah, I guess that's me.That sounds familiar.You got seven or eight in you?No.No?How many?
00:51Probably like three or four.Three or four solid.So half, you know.Yeah.I mean, if you're by yourself.Yeah, if I'm by myself, you know.If you got women involved, then I could definitely have quite a few rounds in me.But as far as finding the ambition to do that when you're solo,
01:06Pitching a tent?Yeah.I don't know.I know.And I'm just on only fans, you know?Right.Okay.Let's start with how I know you.
01:15And I might have blurry memories for some parts of this.But back in the day, you came to the old store on Melrose, which, by the way, we're back, 766, 65, Melrose.And at one point, you did a lean dab.How did that actually happen?Did you just DM me and say, hey, I want to take a lean dab?I just pulled up to the thing or to the store one day, and I came in the back.And, yeah, I just...Hit the lean dab.
01:43That's the first time I ever did lean, too.I was just like, let me try this out.And then I poured it into one of these.Yeah, the dabber.And then I didn't know what I was going to do at the time.I was like, okay.And then I was taking a dab, and then I poured it back as I was taking the dab.So, yeah, it was just something that came spur of the moment.
01:58It was just popping to your head.Where did you even get the drink?I had it in my freezer for a while.So, but it was a for cold before.I remember you had the green.And this is years before green became somewhat normalized in society.But we thought that was pretty funny that you pulled up with some green lean.Yeah, some green lean.
02:17I mean, I didn't know anything about lean.So it's like, you know, I mean, I know it's usually like a reddish, pinkish,I'd tent, I guess, you know, but I've never done it until that day.Right.I did like two lines.And that was like.You drank two lines of it.Yeah.
02:28Okay.Because I was pouring it in there and I didn't know what to pour.You know, I was like kind of paying attention, but not, you know.So where do the motive?motivation to do this come from?I feel like just being there at the store.I was like, okay, back in the day, you know, everyone was drink and lean.I mean, I guess they're still doing it now.
02:42But I was like, this is a perfect spot to do it at, you know?Right.And I did it.And yeah, I mean, that did pretty good the video before, but then that Instagram got taken down.Really?Yeah.Because I noticed you're on a new Instagram with like a thousand followers.Yeah, I had one back in the day.
03:00I mean, that's not the only place that you know me from as well.bit uh how else do i know you i used to work with a tattoo artist that uh yes okay that was you yesokay wow so we'll work with it well i mean we have a lot to talk about then yeah there's a lot yeahromeo talk about him i got a you can't probably i mean he got a restraining order against meand sure really yeah back in the day like i mean it was temporary you know but it was because i guessi think when i went to court they said like i had his phone number up on instagram which it waslike on a court document.So it was like,
03:32it was like public record.Anyone could have had his phone number,but you know,like I was trolling back then.So let me just lay the scenefor people who don't knowwhat we're talking about right now.There was a tattoo artist
03:41and I suppose is a tattoo artistwho I have multiple tattoos from him in fact.I have 90% of mine from him.Right,and his name's,and so does Kendrick Lamar, right?Kendrick Lamar.I mean, yeah,
03:52a lot of people.That's weird to think that Kendrick.Technically we could talk about itbecause honestly,I don't give a fuck.Kendrick got most of his tattoosfrom a dude who is now mega canceled,which is kind of wild to think that
04:03perhaps the greatest rapper of our generation.But that's neither here nor there.But anyway, he got exposedat a certain point for basicallymessing around with underage chicks.Yeah, through DM and stuff like that.And at first it, like, popped up one timeand, like, it just seemed like it was, like,
04:21just extortion for money or something.Okay.Because there was no actual girl's faceto the Twitter account or whatever.And so I think that's why, like,nothing happened really.Like he just got let go from that incident and I was still working with him.And then the second time around was when I was about to quit.
04:40That was like the same week that Juice passed away.Oh, wow, that was the same time.Yeah.And I was like, and it just got crazy during that time.And I was like, okay, I'm going to leave.And then I started trolling.Because you were his assistant.Yeah, technically I was the assistant.
04:56I was the shop manager, things like that.Okay.According to him now, I'm like the store janitor, I guess.Wait, you're still at that shop?No, no, no.No, I don't.I do my own, you know, crypto.Okay.
05:07Big crypto guy, you know, I'm like...But where were you at in life that you became Romeo's assistant?Okay, so technically this is how life started.I mean, I joined the military, did the military for a little bit.I mean, for the time that I had to do it.And then once I got out, I was like, what do I do next?So I went to college.I did set design, built sets and stuff like that.
05:28And I did that for a few years.But I'm like, that...guy that just likes to not be lazy but at the same time just likes to help everyone out and work so ijust was like doing everything that you could do so i i did i ran a waffle truck for a while umwhat did i do i worked with with that guy over at that tattoo shop i also manage another tattoo artistright now um you just been figuring stuff out yeah i mean i i don't really need to do too much you knowlike I've done a lot so I'm like I don't kind of get him by you know my memory of the cancellationof Romeo was that it seemed like okay this isn't good but keem star from drama alert was really the
06:13one leading the charge in terms of exposing him before keem star hung up his YouTube content and he gotRomeo to get on a call with him on an episode of drama alert and keem basically got him tobasically admit that he had done this and also it was it was like Romeo had never argued withsomeone who actually was trying to you know corner him because it felt like very quickly he startedbasically saying that the girls that he had been involved with were the ones who were really atfault because they were trying to manipulate and you know cancel him which was a weird thingto hear a grown man try to argue because obviously youyou're the adult in the situation.
07:00There's a higher standard for your behavior.But what was that time period like as far as what you could say in terms of just seeing his whole kind of unravel, right?Yeah, it was just crazy.I was like, damn.And I knew him like for a long time, too.I knew him like 10 years before.Or for about 10 years, technically.My first tattoo was from him.
07:22Now I just, I even got matching tattoos.Right.Which is crazy.And were you starting to think along the road that he was a weirdo or that he was perhaps not the best guy?Once the first like incident happened where he was on drama alert the first time, I was like, I was like, okay, yeah, he's a little weird, you know?But like then it sounded like he got extorted.So when the second incident came around, that was me that brought it up.And then someone brought it up to me saying, hey, some girl on Twitter is trying to get a hold of Keem started.
07:56Now, I was in contact with Keemstar already from the previous incident because he reached out to me.And yeah, so I was like, okay, I could get this to Keemstar because I have like that end.Yeah, literally I did the investigation first.I had all like the text messages and everything.I sent it over to Keemstar afterwards and then he got in contact with that girl.So but before all this cracked off, was there any signs to you that he might not have been a great guy?Or was everything fine before that?everything was fine before.
08:27Okay.Yeah.Like,I mean,I never knew like,I mean,never knew he was weird,you know?
08:31Like,I mean,when I seen his YouTube videos,he was kind of weird,you know?Right.But,yeah,
08:38I didn't know anything like that.I didn't know he was like a weirdo,so.Okay.And so how do you end up deciding to separate from him?Was it entirely because of the stuffthat was coming out in the media?No,
08:48so I was also,so I was the shop manager,but at that time,too,TikTokers and people and yeah technically if I did it at the shop I was supposed to give 50% or whatnotbut I was just starting off at that time and then he just was like when are you going to get people in hereyou know to do teeth you're always going to them and I was like yeah because they don't want to comehere because you're a weirdo that's kind of like what led up to that and then I left and yeah
09:20I literally just left because I've left before I was like yeah I don't want to work here no moreand then he wanted me back.So, yeah.That time I just left and I was like,I don't know what I'm going to do.Okay.And you haven't spoke to him since then?Nope.
09:34And is he still touching?Well, I mean, since, I mean,court was like a couple years back.And he tried to actually sue you?What's crazy is he got a restraining order against me,but who would want to go close to him at all?Like, I mean, he sent his brother after me on Melrosewhen I did a pop up at cookies and kicks.
09:50His brother did what just showed up trying to?He showed up with a couple of,people they stole my tooth gymtechnicallyand uh yeah it was weirdhe got fucked up there's a videokind of he got fucked up on malrosewhat your friends
10:03f*** him up no no no he basicallywas trying to like lift me up and like kind oftake me to the ground or some shit andthe video doesn't really show thatbut I I fucked him up with some tear gasoh tear gas that's always goodbut uh okay there was a wholedid you follow the lawsuit where he ended up having to give
10:20his gold play button to kem staroh yeah I was I was following thatI was it during that same time was when the I mean I got the defamation I got the cease and desist the same time that Kimster got a cease and desist or whatever the that was happening during that time okay yeah so I was just I was just this is fun you know and then I posted that on the on my story you know the cease and deshe had his contact on it so then he took me to court after that wow and what's he been doing you think he does he touch you out of the same spot same spot I think and then also he started music okayYeah, he's a fucking singer.He always looked like an emo singer.Oh, it's fucking, it's horrible.It's not good.
10:58He has a song called California Dreaming or some shit, California Dreams.And that's the name of his shop.It's a weird, it's a weird dynamic where tattoo artists get canceled,and then they kind of disappear from social media,but they keep doing their thing in real life and just try not to attract attention.And it seems like that actually works out pretty good because I know a tattoo artist who basically was driving with a friend.You probably know what I'm talking.about and accidentally got in a car accident his homie died and obviously you know he looks pretty
11:31bad as the guy who basically was responsible for this dude dying and he's still doing his thinghe just doesn't really post on instagram or anything yeah that's how i think romeo's doing it i don'tknow i mean i'm blocked but i don't really like care to look like it's like weird right but umsometimes people will be like yo look what romeo's doing or some shit some you know and i'm likeokay but that's that hasn't been around for a whileyou know like but they were sending me stuff before and I was like okay cool got it but I know I know thatshit was I don't know I know after I left that shit fucked up business for him I think yeah I'm surebut you know hey best of luck to him hopefully turns the shit around um but uh career
12:09I don't know but uh he so okay so then we fast forward I didn't see you for quite a few yearsand then all of a sudden you pop up in the media and as soon as I saw the picture of you I'm likeI fucking know this guyand I sent it to my team right awayand I'm like okay remind mehow much interaction we had with his dudebecause I remember him coming around on Melroseand they were like
12:30that's the guy from the lean dabthat guy fucking applaud to work for no jumperat one point I'm putting the pieces togetherthey didn't mention the Romeo thing so I kind offorgot about that but okayno one wants to mention that now we're caught up to speedhow didI mean okay like where do we even begin here
12:46like what is your relationshipwith only fans and porn in generalI mean, I have a lot of friends that are in the industry.I mean, you know all of them.Only fans, I mean, I have an only fans account, you know, now.How did you become friends with all these people?Well, I mean, I met Gina in the beginning.Valentina?
13:09Yeah, I don't know.I don't know if we should put her in the video or something, you know,because I kind of work with her still.But we'll figure it out.She's a porn star.Yeah, she's a porn star.So I met her, and that was at the tattoo shop.actually and she was getting tattooed by the guy that I managed now.
13:24Okay.Yeah, that same day we became like friends and, uh, yeah, I mean, we hung out a lot and thenI kind of was in the circle of all the other porn stars and I was like, okay, this is prettycool. So it fucked up porn for me, you know?They fucked up porn for you meeting all these girls?No, it didn't like fuck it up, but like if I go on like, say I go on porn hub, I'm going tosee like Gina or someone, which is a friend of mine, you know, and I don't want to watch that,you know, but.
13:49Gina's a friend of mine too and I've still beat off to her many times in the last year.I mean, this is like there's all kinds of girls.I have a different experience with people where even my girl, she says I can't really watch much porn these days because I don't want to see people that we know.And I say, that's exactly what I want to see.Yeah.I want to shake a girl's hand at a party and then go beat off to her the next day.I guess I guess I could see that technically.I mean, I don't know.
14:15I guess it's different when I work with her.You know, like I was her assistant for a little while too.During COVID, I like...Working with her and beating off tour, it could be weird.Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I mean, I guess it could be weird.I don't know if I'd beat off to my boss, but I also never had a sexy boss.Yeah, I can see that, I guess, you know?But I'm a different type of guy.
14:36I'm like, you know, I'm not like a weirdo how the internet thinks I am, you know?Really?Yeah.I don't know.You seem like you got a little bit of a weirdo streaking you.I mean, I guess I could pull off the weird-looking vibe, you know?I mean, they made it look good on the internet, you know, like...Okay.
14:49So what about?Ruby Rose though you have a particularfixation on heryeah I love that girl she's my queenyeah she's a baddie there's no denyingbut she doesn't do real pornso like you're yeah I mean I have everyI have every image of everything of hers on my
15:05only fans account that I that I purchasedI guess supposedly okayyeah no I mean I didn't purchase none of that shitbut if you want to beat off to Gina Valentinayou can watch a video or her slurping upnine nuts in a row whereas with Ruby Roseyou don't even really get to see anipple, right? Or are there nipples in the DMs?
15:25No, I don't think there's nipples in the DMs.So, yeah, that's not right.I figured if there was that they would have leaked on Twitter already.Yeah.No, I mean, I know.They should be leaked on Twitter.You can't even see it on Reddit, you know?But, no, I didn't purchase none of our only fans' content.
15:42Ruby Rose.Yeah.Okay.So this was all a hoax?I got in the situation where I just went and took a picturewith Ruby Rose, right?Okay.I got paid for it.
15:53I didn't know exactly what it was for.You know, I think it was like a promo thing or something or whatever the fuck it was, you know?And I met up with her.I take this picture next day.I'm the top,I'm like the fucking OnlyFans top spender.I knew there was like some kind of thing where there was like,had to do with the only fans top spender shit,
16:10but I didn't know what the fuck was going on.So they made it look like I was her top spender, you know?So they didn't fill you in on this beforehand?They didn't say, hey, we have this big idea.This is what we're going to do.The idea was like they were like we're gonna use your I mean they kind of let me know that I was gonna be like this like one of her likeSubscribers I guess on only fans or something like that right I was like okay that sounds cool you know I didn't know I was gonna blow up to this big huge storyYou know they said it was gonna be big and then you know I was like okay cool this is kind of cool whatever the fuck
16:38I was like when's money is gonna start coming in you know like I was like I want some money out of thisAnd how are you gonna get paid for it and you're saying that they didn't tell you beforehand that this was gonna be the storylineWell, I knew there was this only fans and like the person's the top spender, but I didn't know the story was going to come out to be bigger than what the story is now, you know, like where I'm like the obsessive guy who's in love with her and so the $60,000 number was fake.It's a real account, but it's not me.It's like an actual account that's paid into Ruby Rose.So some guy did spend $60 grand on her. It just wasn't you.Yeah, it wasn't me.And at the same time, I'm like,
17:19getting all this like hate and shit.So I'm like, okay, this is kind of getting weird.I was like, what's the next thing that's going to happen?And then I did say we should like get some kind of tattoo going, you know?Like, you know, like I'll get her name or something tattooed on me.I didn't think I was going to get a portrait.Where's the portrait?On the back of my leg.
17:36Okay.So now when that, so first I'm the top spender and then it comes out to me being, I didn't know I was a Bitcoin billionaire.You know, I mean, I have some money, you know, but I'm not like Bitcoin billionaire.You know, so the story is coming out, but I didn't, I didn't hear about that side of the story.Did you put that narrative out there or did her and her team put that up?Yeah, her and her team.I didn't know anything about that part, you know, like.And then I go to the weed shop, right?
18:00And this girl's like, hey, you're that crypto billionaire guy or whatever, which I was like, okay, that sounds kind of cool.But then also, you're on true life fucking porn addiction.And I was like, I was?And then I looked into that afterwards.But so this.Were you on true life?Point addiction or because I saw that tooI saw that there was like me does it? Oh
18:22that wasn't you at all. I saw thata picture and I just assumed that it was.Wow is nothing real. Holy shit.No so I mean the so I knowabout theOnlyFans account top spender shitkind of but I didn't know it was going to beas big as this
18:38was going to be you know I didn't even knowwhat was going on and thenI get the tattoo and then it turns out to beI'm like some obsessive like stocker guy namedBrandon which was the guy on a truelife where he was addicted to porn and that's why like in the messages it says brandon only fancreep or some shit i wake up i see this this post and it's like the tattoo one right and then i'm likeseeing all the the text messages and i'm like i didn't even like read it like i seen some of it and
19:07it seemed like it was really bad so i like just turned my phone off yeah that shit was crazy i don't knowhalf like i don't know how they generated that message but that shit kind of like made me gocrazy for a few days. It was making you go crazy.Not crazy, but like anxiety, you know, so it was like...Well, okay, on one hand, it's kind of cool to be famous.On the other hand, if they're painting a narrative of you, that's totally different from whoyou actually are as a person, that's probably less fun.Yeah. Because, I mean, there was all these different narratives.
19:36Like, I'm a Bitcoin billionaire. I'm a porn addict.I don't know. Love Ruby Rose so much that I would get a tattoo over.Uh-huh.So, yeah.Okay.I want to speak to all the people out there who are looking at what you've just said and they're feeling kind of dumb because they're thinking,holy shit, I can't believe I got fooled.Nothing is ever real on the internet anymore.
20:02I can't believe that I got tricked.I was in the same exact boat.There was a guy.I won't say his name, but he's very, very high up at OnlyFans.Like he works in OnlyFans corporate.And he was here.Me and Leonard were doing a meeting with him talking about some stuff.OnlyFans.
20:16related and we obviously ended up bringing up your situation because it came out like that dayand the guy kind of rose his eyes at me and he's like yeah that shit's not real and i immediately feltthe same way that everybody at home feels which is i felt like a fucking dummy for falling for it and evenearlier that day i had said to lena i'm like you know how easy this would be for us to one up rightall we got to do is find some guy who looks a little off and then make a fake screenshot that saysthat he spent $150,000 or $200,000and we could kind of like leapfrog the news cycleand replace Lamar with some other guy and say,
20:55oh, look how much this guy.And, you know, it's like there's a constant questto like fake shit to get attention in terms of only fans.So I guess on one hand we shouldn't be surprised.But on the other hand, damn, Ruby Rose.It makes me think a lot too.I didn't know that you were going to bust that move out.Yeah, and like, I mean, they were like kind of like hinting things.
21:16Like when the team was talking to meOr the agency or whatever the fuck it's calledI don't even know what it's calledThey weren't like telling me everything that was going onSo it was like I kind of had likeAfter I was like realizing what was going onI was picturing it in my head after a whileAnd I was like this is what they're doing
21:32They're like trying toThey got the character which is meAnd then now they're gonna figure out something elseTo that's when the true life shit came inSo now they were able to do thisAnd I don't knowYou got to respect it.in a weird way, but do you feel somewhat what, like taking advantage of?
21:49I mean, once I realized how much money she was making off of this, and I was like, okay,like, I, I, when I got the tattoo, they asked me how much I wanted for, like, her people,her team or whatever asked me, what do I think is a good price for the tattoo?Now, I was like saying 15 to 20K, you know?I feel, I feel like I knew what was going to happen with this.I knew it was going to, like, go out of proportion, and maybe it would make me look like,I thought about it.Maybe it was going to make me look like a creep and shit.
22:18But I mean, I have the most random tattoos on my body that I was like, okay, I could do this and I could still pull it off.Right.And down the road, maybe five, ten years from now, people are going to say, what's that a tattoo of?You can go say, oh, it's a hot, light skin girl.They might not even remember Ruby Rose.Although maybe she'll also be, like, the most famous person in America.Maybe they will remember.I'll just be like that's my ex.
22:38Yeah, that's a good one.Yeah. She's dead to me now, though.Wait, really?That's how you feel?No, no, no.I'm just getting...Oh.No, I mean, honestly, like, when I met her, she was cool.
22:49Like, you know, I mean, like...I know, like, her team's in on this, you know?So, I mean, I don't know if this...I mean, the way that she was to me, like, she was super dope.They made me look like I was, like, I have, like, 220 pictures in my phone.Right.Of me and her.So it's like...
23:05They used one picture.It makes me look like I'm a weirdo.But, yeah, no, I was, like, I was hanging out with her for probably, like,two hours, maybe threetops. Wesmoked.What else? I almost tried tofreestyle, you know, like a little bit.
23:23You freestyle? I do a lot.Yeah. There was also, okay, there wasanother round in this whole viralcycle in which there was a screenshotor a screen recording of a bunch of texts.Yeah. Right? And were those actuallyyou? No. That's why Iwas like, they used the Brandon
23:39weird Onlyfans guy or one. Right.And that was what a lot of people said.was look at this foolwho spent all this money on this girland she won't even save him under his real name.She saves him as weird only fans guy.And this basically promptedall of the red pill grifters,
23:55the poetic flakos of the world who you just met,etc. to allkind of use this as content because itfulfilled theirpre assumptions, which isthat the world is full of suckerswho are basically being taken advantageof by these only fans, girls.
24:11And when it comes to creating fake narrative,in the public eye, this is what you want to do.You want to basically fulfill the previous beliefs that people already held,and you were just sort of like a perfect stand-in for, you know,we know that all these people are spending money on OnlyFans.We don't necessarily get to see them.And the idea that you would spend, you had spent this insane amount of moneywas very, very captivating to people.
24:34Yeah, I've never spent a dollar on OnlyFans to this day.Ever.Actually, you know, when you create your account, technically,I think it charges your card like a little bit.So I guess maybe I did spend like a dollar or something, maybe on OnlyFound?Oh, it'll give you what?It'll give you like four cents and then you have to confirm by saying you got a four cent deposit.Yep.
24:52Yeah, some shit like that.I've never actually had to deal with it on other sites.Wow.So, okay.What, like, I mean, what has it been like becoming this famous for such a bizarre thing?Like, what does this experience been like?I still, bad.I was thinking in my head it might have been bad, but, you know, I got like,
25:13reassurance because people are like your friends know that you're not this person sojust go out in public you know and I was like I can't go out in public with like the way thatthings are making me look like I'm a Bitcoin billionaire all this shit and then you know I justwent out one day and it was cool you know I mean people were asking me do I know ruby rosethough like I was like yeah I know I mean I know her yeah but have you told anybodyabout this being fake besides me no I mean the just the people that know andAnd, I mean, even my aunt, she hit me up saying, you're spending $62,000 on this girl.And I, this is, I haven't done, like, DM and stuff.
25:52And I was like, no, I've spent more like $76,000 now because I knew the money was going up and shit.So I've been playing the story, you know, playing along with it.Because I knew, like, I can't really tell anyone, you know.I have, like, friends from, like, 10 years ago hitting me up, like, all of a sudden.And then they're, like, wanting to probably hear the story, you know?Because they know something's up, you know?Okay, yeah.And the crazy thing about it is that on one hand, I'm thinking, oh, I bet they swore you to secrecy.
26:17But I bet they didn't, right?No NDA, no contract, nothing.And I was like thinking in my head, why?Like, what did they do?Because this right here, us having this conversation, if this clip right here goes viral on Twitter or whatever, it doesn't matter.It's actually good for her because she already got what she was hoping to get or what her team was hoping to get, which is a bunch of media attention.This right here is further media attention.Yes, it kind of makes her and her team look like they're kind of full of shit, but I mean, she's not the fucking president.
26:45She's the only fan's chick.So it's like, is it really that bad a look?I don't think so.It's just another reason for everybody to talk about her.And I've seen this over and over and over where do you remember when Black China was super viral for them saying she made $20 million in a month?And I remember sitting there looking at that thinking, no way.Absolutely not.And then you fast forward a couple years and she's like reportedly bankrupt.
27:07Hopefully she wasn't making $20 million in a month and becoming bankrupt.Now, to be fair, I kind of do believe the bad baby made like $18 million in a month.I've seen the screenshots.That doesn't seem so out of the realm of possibility.Yeah.But Black China, no, I'm not having it.I'm not scurrying that one either.Okay.
27:28But so what made you decide to come clean?Was this a hard decision?Or do you feel like this isn't any way?Are you turning your back on through the road?I technically reached out to the team, you know, and I said, hey, so where do we go from here?Because this ain't benefiting me at all.You know, I'm like, how's this benefiting me?I have all these podcasts hitting me up.
27:48And I mean, I need to make some money out of this or I need to do something because I'm not doing anything now.I'm just trolling on the internet.And they told me let it die down first, you know, and then you could do the podcast or whatever.And I was like, well, shit, I don't have no contract or anything.So then I was like, well, that's not benefiting me.And then he's like, well, I thought you didn't want to do this no more.And I was like, what do you mean?I guess probably like deal with all like this bullshit.
28:13So I feel like they think maybe I'm still going to run along with the story or something.But I don't know.I'm just going along with what I know.And, yeah, I don't know.A lot of people were like just crazy.I don't know.It's just crazy on the internet.They're like, I mean, everyone gets hate.
28:32So I was like, all right.This is cool.But did the hate?It didn't really affect me.It just like.Right.Because who the fuck cares, right?Yeah.
28:39I mean, I realize, like, once, if I fall asleep, you know, and I wake up, it's actuallybetter to see all this stuff on the internet than be up all night, just scrolling throughjust seeing what people are saying because it definitely affects you for sure.So I realized all that afterwards.I mean, I've been in the limelight already.Just not like this.Like, this is like crazier.I mean, I've dealt with all these rappers and everything like that.
29:03Right, because, okay, from my perspective, I have very much chosen.to be a celebrity and to be in the public eye and to like make myself go viral by doing stupidfucking stunts from time to time and you know people think that the whole you know the gameshow thing was fake before the scene actually came out or there was a time period where peoplethought that the jason love thing was fake and it was all just going to be a big fake out that you knowshe didn't actually sleep with them or whatever we're kind of willing to go the extra mile to dothis crazy viral shit regardless of the hate from your perspective you didn't necessarilynecessarily really sign up for this and especially just the negative attention. I could see how
29:44it's probably kind of stressful and you didn't really realize what you were biting off. Yeah,I didn't know that was going to be the effect. I didn't know that's how they were going to betray thestory, you know, like they were, I just woke up and that's what I seen on the internet. Like this guy,Brandon, weird guy that's sending her all these text messages and then people just told me not toread it, you know? And I said, okay. Still to this time.I haven't read it, but I like listen to a YouTube video of someone reading it today just so I could like hear what it said and I was like, wow, that's funny.Anytime you see anything about only fans in the media, you should be cautious about believing.I know for sure, yeah.
30:23Because literally the entire business model is predicated on the idea of you get attention and then you make only fan sales.So girls are literally willing to do anything.And the early, early version of this back on the day on Twitter, I remember like 2011, I think,Her name was Bree Olson was like the queen of being on Twitter and just tweeting, you know,God, I just need a nut on my face right now.Or God, I wish I just had five dicks inside.Just like the craziest shit you could ever think of.But we were young and we were not familiar with like trolling or people being sort of disingenuous for attention on the internet.
30:59We thought that this girl was really like that, that she was actually just sitting around craving dick all day.And I mean, girls now are just doing the same thing.It's just you have to work a little bit harder to get the people to actually buy in on your narrative.Yep.Yeah, it's out of control.So, okay, wait, what is your porn diet?What do you actually consume and how often?My porn diet?
31:24Yeah, what are you watching?I mean...You said you never spend money on Onlyfans.Are you out here getting free content?Well, now I am.I mean, Twitter's awesome, you know?Like, I got all these girls that want to shoot content, but if the story...Wait, really?
31:36Anybody well known?There might be, yeah, possibly.Are you going to take them up on it?I mean, I'd have to do it probably today, you know, before the story comes out because, you know.Nah, I think you're famous regardless.Okay, yeah, it'll be fine then, you know.And even though we're debunking the whole thing right now, there's going to be a lot of people who don't care and are going to be on board with it regardless.Yeah.
31:59No, I mean, honestly, like, I was like, I feel like I'm supposed to figure out where to go from here now.Yeah.I can't just be like, hey, I need a job somewhere.You know, I have to like...Notorious masturbator.Like, yeah.So I created my only fan's account.I don't know what else I can do.
32:17I mean...What are you packing down there?I can't really say yet.You got a hog on you or no?Yeah, it's okay.Yeah, I mean, you don't really give me big dick energy.I'm going to be totally real with you.Yeah.
32:31Maybe that's just because you're not really trying, but...I mean, I'm just like that guy that doesn't give a fuck really.Like, I mean, I don't, I don't care too much, so I don't know.I just, that's my energy, you know.Just not caring?Yeah, I just, I mean, I'm like guy that has an open schedule to where people know that they could rely on me and help them out if I need to, you know, help them out.So that's what I've been doing for, like, the past shit, four years, five years.We're just keeping an open schedule?
33:01Yeah, and like, I'll just, like, fly out to Miami and help Gina out or.I mean, I do the tattoo stuff.So you're just a professional nice guy?Professional nice guy.I know.I feel like the opposite of that, because my schedule is packed for a week's set of time.I know.I just, I can't make time for shit.
33:19I never had a calendar until now.I have to, like, put stuff in the calendar because I'm like, it's kind of hard to remember things now.Yeah.Before, I'd never have to do that.So. Wow.Yeah.Things are changing.Things are changing, yep.
33:30What's your attitude on porn, though?You're open-minded when it comes to point?I'm open-minded about it, you know, honestly?I mean, I feel like I'm friends with a lot of these girls, so it's kind of, I mean, I don't want to watch their stuff.You know, I'm friends with them, you know, but if I meet them, you know, and I'm not their friend yet, I mean, I might be down to watch what they're doing or do something with them.Right.You ever bang any of these porn stars?No.
33:54Never really got around to it or what?I just never thought about it too much, you know?I mean.Better to keep it as a fantasy?Yeah, fantasy, you know?Or like just a friendly relationship, you know, because I don't know.some of these porn sites are like based in Germany and shit so you could probablybeat off to all these hot-ass girls from Europe and shit that you're never going to run into
34:16that's true I don't really know what sites I'm talking about but I do remember back in the day I used to jerk off to porn and would kind of like slowly realize like oh fuck these bitches are from all over the place like they don't have an American accent on them yeah I don't know why the Snapchat glasses I feel like those disappearedDidn't they stop making those quite a few years ago?Oh, man, I don't even know what happened with them.I got them when they first came out.So, like, I don't even know how long ago it was, but I don't use them no more.I mean, they're prescriptions.So I use them as prescription.But I mean, I'm not blind.
34:51It's like kind of like my look still.But it's got to freak people out a little bit because they feel like you're making content of them or no.I mean, technically you're supposed to press a button and it lights up, things like that.But I always have to explain to them that it's not recording, you know.I can't wear them at the casino.you know so I can't play like table games with them like I could see through the cards or some shit I don't know that makes sense but uh yeah I mean I justI guess they're I don't know cool so what are you planning to oh I got to ask about the shirt too oh yeahbecause the same shirt that you had on in the photo with Ruby Rose same pants and same
35:28oh you came in the same exact guard I was like I might as well wear this does that shirt have a special place in your heartman I have a lot of shirts like this like this company that Ifuck with they uh i just get all their shirts um what's it called assholes live forever that's what i thoughtthat was one of theirs yeah yeah so i mean like when i went actually so when i went to go take thisphoto i was like i already knew it had something to do with the internet so i was like this might be agood photo to wear a good shirt to wear this photo in good shirt to wear the to take a photo in right anduh yeah i took two other shirts with me and i didn't even like take them inside we just took the photos butYeah, no. I mean, I don't really have a browser history too much. You know, I have...
36:11Yeah. Do you have a girlfriend?I used to be married, so...To who?Some girl, um, when I was in the military, you know, so...But you... No, I'm just kidding. I was afraid.But, uh...You got me.Yeah. No. I, uh...
36:28I've had girlfriends, you know, but I mean, I work too much. Like, literally, I... I pay rent in one place.You just said that you keep an open schedule and you're a professional, nice guy doing favors for you.Yeah, I feel like that's why I keep my schedule open.If I had your girlfriend, I wouldn't be able to do that, you know?Uh-huh.But.Don't you call that building a life for yourself?True.
36:47You know, the more I don't have free time, the more that I kind of become an adult.Yeah, that's.There's one way to look at it.That's one way to look at it, yeah.You could be a free spirit for the rest of your life and just sort of hang out and do your thing.Yeah.You said that you were dating a billionaire.Wait, I said that?
37:06I think so, right?Didn't you tell me you were dating a billionaire?When?Maybe I misread the text message or something like that.Okay.Oh.But so do you really have a huge amount of money from crypto or just like a decent amount?I mean, I have some money, but it's not, I mean, I don't make money off of crypto, you know?
37:23I just, I have crypto, but I just don't have the amount that they make it seem like I have, you know?Okay.So what are you going to do with this energy around you?Because everybody wants you to be this crazy porn weirdo, which I guess.I'm going to start being that guy.It's good you're not.Wait, so you are.You're just going to...
37:43No, no, I was just going along with what you were saying just now.Because people want to see that.So I was like, maybe I'll just become that guy.Yeah, because that's one way you could have played thisis you could have just kept acting as if this was all...It was all real.Yeah.And just like, really be that guy, but also, like, what are you going to do with that?
37:59Yeah, what am I going to get out of it?Like, what can I do?Can I get a job, like, at some place?Because they're going to look me up.And you could be, like, an ambassador.If you go to AVN...I am going to go to avian.See, there you go.
38:10You're going to be kind of lit in that environment.There's going to be a new topic.Because there's no famous porn consumers.There's famous porn actors and stars and even some of the agents or managers might be a little bit famous or something.But there's no famous porn consumers, even though there are more consumers of porn than probably almost any other content out there.Yeah.That's true.So that's something to consider.
38:35get like a browsers deal or somethingI don't know what they might do with youOr an only fan's dealReverse Bukaki where a bunch of girlsSquirt on your faceAnd my beard's gonna be all fucked upWould you do thatDid you do some like weird ass shit like that
38:50Or you got some kind of moral obligation not toI know I don't like fucking with the beard too muchI haven't even cut this off everThe beard will be fineWait your whole life you never cut itNoHoly shitI became bald you know
39:01So I was like I guess I gotta keep some hair on my bodyI guess honestlymy beard would probably look something like thatif I just never cut it.I'm gonna be grosser.Sometimes I get it like trimmed a little bitbut you know like it hasn't been like cut off.Like I feel like if I cut it off it's not gonna grow back.
39:17So the beard is what's keeping you from doinga reverse Bukaki?No, I mean if that's what people want to seeI guess I have to do it, right?Well, no.Not just because they want it.You don't have to do what the fans want.If it's worth it, then you know,
39:29maybe I'll do it, you know?Right. Wow.That would be a good video I could sellon only fans right yeah you might need a manager i don't know who the fuck would manage you butit seems like there's something to manage yeah i feel like i need more of an assistant now you knowyeah you could stop being an assistant and get i mean you could continue to be an assistant and alsohave your own assistant that would be tight it's like pyramid of power wow well i don't know manvery interesting last couple weeks of weeks of your life huh yeah i didn't even know it's weeks i
40:01seen today that it's been a week yeah no yeah you're right it's been like 11 days I11 days okay yeah and I'm I'm like now I got to figure out what to do you know so if thatguy from out from only fans hadn't told me that this was fake I would have been flabbergasted byyou telling me that during this interview but I was surprisingly right when we were outsideum that one guy that I was talking to I don't know what was the name mocha poetic flaca okayI know quite a name rightYeahBut I knew you wanted to hear like some part of the story
40:34You know and I was likeWait these people believe this shitYeah honestly likeI'm like fuck this is crazyBecause I mean II don't know I know there's so many sides of the storyI don't know what people think of the storyIf they think I'm a weirdo
40:49You know like because of the text message threadButI mean Flacco it's kind of likeEven if he has a hunch that he might be getting trolledIt's it benefitsif it's him to not act like he knows he's getting trolled because he made a YouTube video thatmight have got, I don't know, 30,000 views or some shit by talking about you.So even if he has a hunch that he might be getting trolled, it's kind of like better for him
41:11to just go along with it.So that's why there's probably a lot of people in the porn game who could have guessed that itwas fake, but.Well, there is.I mean, they already know.I mean, everyone knows.I mean, on the porn side, they know kind of like, hey, that's not how Lamar is.Like I was just hanging out with Lamar.
41:29Oh, okay, yeah.It's just, it's.Because I knew you, but I didn't know so much about you that I thought, like, oh, yeah, that guy wouldn't spend $60,000 on porn.I, I mean, I guess I kind of could see that dude's putting a shit a lot of money on porn.But what, 60,000 in a month?That's what it was supposed to be.That went out to like a 90 or something now.Yeah, because that never made sense to me because I just, I mean, what is the video cost in the DMs?
41:55Maybe 100 bucks.is like the most high-priced video probably.Maybe, possibly.So what am I supposed to believe that you bought like hundreds of...Every video, maybe she did customs, you know?Like, I don't know.I don't know how she'd be able to do customs or have customsbecause I don't think she shows anything on there.
42:12It would have already been leaked.What the fuck would she actually be selling for that much money?Yeah, never really made a lot of sense of that.Her Instagram photos, maybe?I don't know.Like, I feel like any girl that doesn't show anything on on OnlyFans,it's like more of the...What they would post on Instagram,
42:25but just not what they're posting on Instagram.So they still have clothes on probably.Maybe they wet their shirt a little bit.I mean,me and none of the plugger out here on onlyplug talk.com having sex with people.And then meanwhile,Ruby Rose is like the rare girl that's just so hotthat she doesn't have to do anything and she's still killing it.
42:42She is odd, actually.Honestly,I didn't even know who the fuck she was.Like, really when I,I mean,I heard the name,things like that,you know,
42:49I mean,I heard some of the controversy in the media beforehand.She said,a girl that basically said anyone could say the N-Worthy.That's what I knew her.Ruby Rose?Yeah, she said something like she did a tweet or something like that, like said like, I don't know.She tweeted something like that back in the day and I was like, that's how I know this girl.
43:05She's probably just like sick of people telling her that she can't say the N word because she's not dark enough if I had to guess.Yeah.You see this all the time where girls who are, you know, 50% black or whatever, they still get kind of told that they can't say it.And then they typically aren't too happy about that.I don't know that girl whoa vicky she shouldn't have to say it right I think she stopped saying itI could smoke on here for sure well vicky definitely black um what do you uh how's the dab life goingyou're like the only person I know still running around with a dabber yeah I mean it's awesome I got oneof these tattooed on my like too really yeah so you just get a tattoo of everything you like yep
43:44and they give it they give me puff codes all the time I get everything for free that's the good partabout it you ever think you're getting a little over highYeah, I get high a lot.If I was smashing that shit all day, I don't think it would be good for my productivity or life.Well, I stopped smoking for like a month.Me too.Then I started doing it again.I came back again when this all, all this shit happened.
44:07Oh, this brought you back to the dabs.Yeah, like I had this just sitting in my closet.This one, it was like brand new.And I was like, okay, I'm going to just go get dabs now.And yeah, I just smoke.I don't even eat no more.I spend more money on dabs than I do on food.Wow.
44:24So you got dual vices, pouring in weed.Well, I guess the porn one's fake, but...How many times you jerk off a day on average?Not that many.Maybe once a week.I feel like the weed might be getting in the way of that.You should quit the weed so you can jerk off more.Yeah, I mean, I fuck periodically, you know, throughout the week.
44:42So it's like, I don't need to jerk off half the time.Jesus Christ.Okay.Anything else we need to know?Anything we need to look forward to?Yeah, I mean, my only fan's content that's going to be coming out.I don't know what it's going to be, but it's going to have something to do with Bitcoin and fucking.I don't know.
45:00Bitcoin is a weird prop for porn because you can't even see it.True.You have like a Bitcoin logo.I'm just going to have the screen in the back of Bitcoin rising or lowering.Oh, yeah.And you have to do different sex acts depending on the price.If it goes up, then I go up.And if it goes down, then she has to peg you.
45:23Fuck that.No?Nah, not that.I'm not going to do that, you know?Okay.Well, probably the most unlikely pathtowards getting a no jumper interviewsince I interviewed produced by Zach
45:34who got an interviewfrom leaving a lot of comments on our Instagram.And also AOKD, who lives in a tent.He sleeps with his head in a puddle.What the fuck?He goes, Jane snatched.And he also leaves a lot of comments.All right, anything you want them to check out?
45:50Anything that the people need to keep in mindif they want to stay in touch with you?I guess follow me on social media, I guess.Twitter is awesome.Oh, I don't have your Twitter, but your Instagram is what?One of one spender?Yeah, I changed that literally like a week ago.But the number one of one spender.
46:08And then OnlyFans and Twitter is my only fan's name is Only Fans Crypto Well.And that's the same as my Twitter.So, yeah.Maybe you should get more into the pay pig world.You know about the pay pigs?No, what's that?fucking like find them or yeah just dudes who donate shit loads of money in exchange for attentionthat yeah I might as well pay pig it's just a funny it's a funny like a couple of syllables in a row
46:35got a lot of pay pill pay pigs out there it's hard for me to say it I don't know why um all right Lam apesappreciate you appreciate you too this is fun thanks so much for filling us in shout out to all thepeople out there I would love to know what you think in the comments if you are in the mood to beat offright now only plug talk dot com but aside from thatNo Jumber, the coolest podcast world.Check us on on YouTube, TikTok, Patreon, Instagram, etc.Like, comment, and subscribe.Nojumber.com.
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