Spider Loc goes IN on 50 Cent, Young Buck, Wack 100 and Explains Gas Station Fight
00:00Coolest podcast on the world. Today, I'm happy to be in here with the one and only Spider-Loke. How you doing, my guy?Oh, man, blessed to be here with the original man. Adam, what's happening?The original man. You've been in this game a lot longer than me. Let's just call a Spade of Spade here.I'm just saying the good book says Adam was the first man.Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. That's a good point. Okay. I forgot how biblical my name is sometimes.Yeah, so let's just be clear about this. You were a very early member of sort of the, the transferof the West Coast that we've seen.For me, just to explain it, I'm from the East Coast.
00:34I was a hip-hop junkie, but I was really a G-U-Nit, just nerd, you know?I was one of those kids.So to me, it was like you coming in the game.I was just always mega-facinated by your involvement and everything.So I'm very glad that we were in here today doing this interview.I appreciate that.All right, guys, just got to take a quick break here from the podcast to do a quick shout-out to our sponsor.Forget everything that you think you know about mobile games, because one of the
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02:49I'm actually from Compton, California.As far as my birth certificate, it's concerned.born in the town of Compton.So I've been an actual resident of Compton all my life.However, I did not live in my father's house.And he lived in what the world would consider his Watts.Okay.So it was about a 10, 15 minute drive down Central and between my mother's and father's house.
03:11So I've spent my whole life going in between my mother and the father house just spending my time.So I'm from the Compton Watts, South Central area east side.Okay.That's what's up.So early on, what was your upbringing?Like what were you like during your teen years and such?Teen years.And also, can you try to speak a little bit more right into it?
03:28Just because of the fan.I just don't want to get too much background audio.Growing up as an adolescent, I was, I live with my mother, her only child, single mother in Compton.She did her best, sent me to private school.However, my brothers and my father had no religious affiliation whatsoever.So I had to say both influences in my life pretty heavy.So by the time I became a teenager.I became a full-fledged gang member, gangbanger.
03:57Even early teens being a wannabe, I eventually jumped all the way off the porch and involvedmyself in a whole lot of negativity.So is that, that's how you look at it in retrospect, though?It feels like a whole lot of negativity.Oh, definitely was a whole lot.When you end up in prison at 18 and watch a lot of your childhood peers die and youtend a lot of funerals and you look over the period of time that you spent just hangingand banging and you realize you, you know, you may.
04:23make no progress yet, a lot of negativity.Well, it's interesting because, you know, you see two very different outlooks fromdudes who make it to, you know, late 30s, 40s, and their perspective on the whole gang thing.A lot of dudes get older and they still love it and they're still happy to throw up theirsigns whenever they came and they go on picnics and they're still just loving thecultural elements of it, even though, you know, presumably they're not still on the corner.They're not still at shooting at somebody, whatever.But then a lot of people, you know, they kind of, I was just watching that
04:53Mob James interview with DJ Vlad, and it's just so clear that he came out of it with a verydifferent perspective. He feels kind of almost used or victimized by even making that such a bigpart of his life. Where do you fall on that spectrum? I have a similar settlement. You know,when you have manseeds and you have daughters and you're trying to advise your daughters,what type of man should be attractive and advise you. Right. Young boys with type of men they shouldbe trying to evolve into and you look back over your experience. I only want to support things.that I can transfer. So if I can't advise them that these are things that theyshould be participating in, I have to really reassess my involvement. So in order for
05:33me to not ever say the word Crip again, I had to really tap into the essence ofwhat I believe the original spirit of Cripping was the community revolution inprogress. So the only reason you hear me being affiliated with Crip at all at thispoint is because it does have that type of origin that I could go back to and speak tomy sons about. So I realized when Cripping started, there were no bloods. So in order for me to be acrip, a blood does not have to be my enemy. So that's the essence of any Cripping that I'm agang member, not a gangbanger. I have once been a full-fledged gangbanger. But the camaraderie issomething that, and the experiences that I have developed with my comrades and my brothers is
06:13something that you can't take from me. So no matter how old we are, we're going to get togetherand we're going to enjoy and reminisce. However, I do not supportblack on black crime.I do not supportanyone doing anythingto someone elsethat's not warranted.I think that it got derailed
06:30the whole conceptof what it was starting to be.And I did have to come alongin a generationwhere it was totally off trackand I participated to the fullest.So I feel like I kind of owe societya different influence.
06:43Definitely.But when you look back at that time period,do you feel like you're joining the gangwhere you, someone who was sort of beingand brought into it by the older catswho wanted to have somebody who they could,it wasn't, it was more about youth thing.It was very attractive.
06:59The danger, the mischief, the camaraderie.I was attracted to those things.You know, before it gang banging,I was just a mischievous young man.I remember being with, before I actually saturatedmyself within the neighborhood,I was like the badass in my private school church circle.and committing crimes in that arena with my peers.
07:25I remember before having gang violence,just having simple road raid violence.I remember when I was young enoughto where my big cousin, his mother let him get the carbecause he was about 16 to 15, 17, first got his license,we're old enough to where he can drive.So I'm younger to him, I'm in the car.I remember having a pistol.
07:41I remember at times him just having road wage incidentswith other drivers and there'd be shots firedjust because we had the pistol.Right.So it wasn't always just gang banging.It was just being mischievous.Just being just fucking up was attractive at one point.Definitely.
07:59So how deep did you get into that before you started rapping?Was rapping always just a part of it?Always has always been a part of what I did.Before I was rapping, I was writing poetry in school.Yes, when it came time for like mother, auntie, grandmother's birthday,where everybody was trying to get presents together.I would just always have the inclination.to write some poetry, find someone old enough to type it up for him, he put it in the frame.
08:24And I would submit that as a gift and my words are always beyond my age or my perception of maturity.I don't know what's a gift for me to be able to manipulate words, relate to them and use them to express thoughts.It's just been a gift.So I've always wrapped, even when I was, and I have been at certain time, the most active gang bangor in my section, niggas knew.I'll be on the block sitting in my car.I'm gonna have a notebook in the past.I'm gonna be jotting in it.When I lead a block, it's a high possibility.
08:53I might be on my way to the studio.Niggas knew that.It's just, I come from an era of when you used toknow dudes from your rap peers going into into studiosand they have affiliation with certain neighborhoods.And then when I first started rapping,I bump into somebody from another hood, like,oh, I know your home boy so-and-so.
09:11And they respond to be all that rapping ass niggie.I've been rapping since it wasn't cool for street niggas to rap.Right.You know what I'm saying?But I was still full flag.I ain't no rap, I'm just a street niggins.I'm not a rapper.I used to always holl out, I'm a rapper.
09:26I rap circles around non-rappers.I love the rap.I love to manipulate vocabulary.That's the part that attracted me to rap.It was the fact that words were being used.And from young, when we were coming up watching rap,it seemed like the person who got the accolades was the person that could be clever with his words and express himself.Although it's changed now, that's what I was into and that's what I'm still into.
09:47Right.So how far did you guys get with your,how far you get with your music careerbefore you ran into Shug,which is kind of when you really startedto get on a lot of people's radars, correct?Is this off the camera?Or we could do this on you?
10:04No, you could do it on camera.It's all good, yeah.Shout out to Shug, the whole role situation.Prior to that, my experience in music,as far as dealing with people who I once was just,I was not in the game,like to look at as they were in the game.Right off top, I can remember I had already worked with Cebo, Kilite, Yuckmouth.
10:27I was familiar with DovC, not quite, I had kind of got my foot in the game to that level.I had with, let's see who else, maybe Jail Felany, Yuck Mouth.Those are the names that I had recorded with, Brother Lynch.By the time I have actually mentioned.So just to say that, you were definitely do your thing.and you definitely had a wave going on more of an underground level.But people forget too that this is back in those days,it was kind of like if you didn't get a cosign,
10:58then motherfuckers do.It was like, it was hard to be an independent,known artist.It just didn't happen the way it does now.So for the fact, me being aware of that,you know, for me to be able to work with people like Ceboand Killetay, I knew that there was perhaps a future in the game.If I could get all the elements put together
11:17to get behind me as far as far as,having a machine in motion, which, ironically enough, I've still yet to have accomplished,to have a situation where it's all focused on me, a whole machine, and we push it.Anything you consider I do now as far as progress or being relevant, it's all an independent,individual push.Yeah, there's actually, there's a lot of rappers that I sort of talk to, and I sort of havethat realization like, damn, this dude, if he had been born in the current age where you canjust promote yourself on social media, shit might have been a lot different.
11:46A lot of, I was having a conversation with Crooked Eye recently.realizing crooked guy dope rapper would have been able to sort of take matters into his own handsif he was a young man right now but he ended up sort of on the shelf with death row for a longtime and you know it was out of his hands chook's timing you know get him being on death row and beingthe frontrunner it just happened to be the wrong time i got there happened to be the wrong timehappened to be the wrong time sometimes i feel like jonah going back to the bible i get the death rightThat road was the biggest thing in the world.I get there.
12:18What year?What year did you start talking to Shug?And what was that conversation like?2000.My homeboy, aunt, rest of peace, big aunt from my hood.The year 2000?Yes.Okay.
12:28If I can remember correctly, I paroled in 99.I think Shug got out the pin in 2000.You did how many years in for what?I've done a cumulative about five years.My first time I went to prison was for a storm warm robbery.I did two years, about 25 months.And then I got out, stayed out about six months,I went back for ex-conda possession with firearm.
12:50They gave me 32 months, 80%.I did about 25 more months.Okay.And I've never returned back to prison.I paroled in the 99 for the last time.Nice.Going back and forth to jail here in there,for the warrants and tickets and shit,
13:03but I haven't done no real time since then.That's what's up.But yeah, I've made sure about 2000.Did you, when you look back on it,your time spent in prison?Did that really help inform your music?Was that something that madeyour music better having all that shit to talk about and the shit that you knew about?
13:19You know, I typically realize what I know is people like Tupac and other rappers that wentto prison, they come out rapping about prison a lot more than I did.Prison was, you know, I don't know, it's kind of like almost a forgotten time in my life.When I bump into somebody, I go live and I have somebody every now and then somebodyin the comments to tap up and be like, remember me? We was on this yard.And then they start reminding me in certain incidents. We get into conversations about it.Other than that, I kind of forget about the whole experience.I mean, some people are, some people go to prison and then they get out and then they're not really doing shit with our lives.
13:52So it's kind of like prison was the last time that they really got to be around a bunch of real ass dudes and a lot of drama.And it's like, I see people from high school sometimes and they remember me.And I'm like, damn, I don't remember what the fuck they're talking about.I've done a lot since high school.A lot of people ain't done shit since they got out of prison, right?My brother's doing life.And he's been down since 05.Shout out Big Spider from the set.
14:12And he probably remembers all these little conversations you have.Little things, right?Fivably.And I appreciate it because I remember a general incident and we'll get discussing it.And the instill, you don't remember this happened in the details.And I'd be like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that part.So that's something to appreciate about hollering at somebody who's spent a lot of time inincarceration.
14:32It's easy to forget how little they got to really focus on.Yeah.We've got every day, we live enough of a lifetime that it probably covered for them for a year.Every day, we talk to 13, see a thousand different people if you're on a freeway.We're going this story.They don't have none of that.They world moves so slow.Yeah, that's facts.
14:50There's a lot more like what it was like before we all had little computers in our pockets, too, you know?You keep it.There's some prison cells where they got Xboxes and PlayStation.I remember being in prison, fantasizing.And I thought it was the most far-fetched thing in the world that I wish I could have a video game here.Right.The fact that it is real below's mom.I thought it was going to, that would never be a possibility.
15:10Right.I hate to say it with a PlayStation because I can do it.got a lot of time.Oh, mom, mama,especially if we could get online.Play Madden.That'd be a big problemif they started letting everybody
15:24get on line, though, huh?I mean, a whole new generation of scamming.Yeah, exactly.Exactly.I just think, you know, people online,I just think they don't thinkthey got a strong enough signal to play no game.Because, you know, people are right in the pen
15:35watching us right now.Like I said, we go live, they tap in all the time.That's just crazy.I got a friend who's locked up right nowand you got a phone and I got his numberand it's just weirdbecause I'll always be texting himAnd he'll say some shit that I wish I could, like, share with outside world.
15:47And I'm like, I won't want anyone to know that he just sent me a picture of this.Right, right, yeah.But then you look on the Internet, and there's so many people comfortable going live from their cell and cameras in the day room.It's like, dang, it's off the hook in there.That's what's crazy.If you really analyze it, though, because unless you are really kinky or freaky, it's going to be hard to keister phone.So for them to be getting in there, they have to be getting some type of assistance for somebody who's not an emma.Oh, definitely.
16:13And that's probably why they're not so withdrawn about letting it be known that they own on the yard.Just imagine you make $80,000 a year.And all of a sudden, somebody tell you, if you bring $10, $25 phones in here, I'll get $800 for each of them.You're going to drop the phones in the corner somewhere.The shit that trips me out is when I have a friend go to jail and I'll assume that that means that they're getting sober for a while.And then I talked to them and I realized, oh, no, they're out hell of pills in jail.Pills, Harron, from my experience, is the dominant drug.The most widely used, of course, weed, but anything goes in prison.
16:51Everything, if you get it, it's going to go at a premium, a times 10 premium.Thanks.Okay, so what's the first conversation with Shugla?How does this start unfolding?I had told everybody, you know, the news and everybody was prepping thatshould be home in 90 days.He'll be home from prison in 30 days.I told everybody in my circle, I'm a break.
17:11I'd break my neck to meet that nigga within the first 30 days that he get out.Promise you on my meeting within 30 days.However, when he actually paroled, I put not one, I didn't put no effort in the meeting.It was kind of like I just was talking.However, the way the universe had it before he was out 30 days, somebody called me and said,Shud want to meet you.And that was my homie big aunt.And so when I got to, they happened to be at the Red Lobster waiting on me when I pulled up,
17:34pulled up, Shook said, I heard, I've heard, been hearing a lot of good things about you.I said, all that shit true.Because of his reputation, I was trying to make sure I came with a lot of firmness.So there was sitting at a long table.He was at the head of it.I grabbed the chair and I put it right to his peripheral.And he was like, uh, so he was eating.He was like, yeah, your homie told me you rap.
17:56I want to hear something.I'm like, now it's a gang of pie rules, bunch of rest in peace,Timmy Roos.It was an intimidating or a real serious, different-looking scene.And I just wrapped.I did 16 bars.He was like, yeah, we got crooked eye.We got Eastwood to you next.
18:12And we're going to do this and we're going to do that.So it was a dude named Magic who had a label called Dundeele Records.Eastwood was signed to Magic.My big homie aunt was Magic's best friend.So Magic is a smaller stature.My homie was big, dark.They used to run together.Magic politic in the game.
18:31He was a CEO.He used to be everywhere.I'm sure you've heard his name.But anyway, I had no magic for some years.So after we had that first meeting at the restaurant, we went to see Sugar a week later that would follow-up meeting.This is the first time I was able to be in the office along with just me and should.And so we went into the office.He said, so if we're going to do this deal, I think it would be fair if you let, if you let Magic and your homie aunt manage you.
18:57And I told him that because of things that me and Magic had went through in the past, I didn't want him managing me.And we went on.We never did an actual deal.But from that point on, for two years, I was considered as Shugg's artist.Only production he put out during that period of time was the dysfunctional family soundtrack, Eddie Griffith's stand-up movie.I participated on that, got the opportunity to not only write for the late great, beautiful Lisa left eye Lopez.I also got the opportunity to work with a legend like Eddie Griffith, corrupt, crooked eye.you know, I named the guys that I have been dealing with in the game on the underground
19:36prior to meeting, Shud, but once I got there, it went up to where I met, shit, Sylvester Stallone,Cisco, Ray J, it was a whole other level of celebrity.And it was a hell of experience dealing with Shud.Because of what you were actually looking for to get famous and rich, I was disappointed initially.But now, after I've been in the game some time, it's been around, and I look back over what I actuallydid gain by dealing with Shug, I appreciate the experience a lot more.Do you think Shug wanted you at that time as an artist, or was it partially because he, you know,he wanted you to be part of the squad on like a street type of level?
20:17It's a dual.Right.A dual desire.He actually, the reason why I was called is because while my homie, Anting Magic, was having a meeting with Shug,he described what type of artist that he was looking for.And he actually stated, I don't want to be.nobody, I gotta go to his hood and save him from his homies.That's what made my homie say, because you need to meet my little homie.
20:38Tell him to come up here then.He all that.That's when I got the call.Should want to meet you.So that was a pretty good question.Definitely, if I had to show up and being that niggard from my set,I don't know if I would have been able to saturate myself over there.If you got to be able to impress crooked eye with your lyrics.
20:55Right.First of all, that's not easy.Shout out crooked eye for the word beludiful, too.He came up with that.Yeah, one day we was in the studio session.in that death row.And he's kind of on the smart side.I want to use the N-word, one of the ends with a D.
21:09But if you know crooked, he's kind of, you know,so he came up, and even though he's a gangster rapper,he like came over my shoulder and my ear one night.He was like, hey, I got something for you.I can't really use it.It's a word.Like, what's that?Like, beautiful.
21:25I'm like, oh, that's hard.So I just kept it in the back of my head for years.It's just been there.And the time came where I heard it.First, before I heard the beat, I remember being in the airport.I don't know if it was what the airline was, but all the waitant seats were blue.And it caused me to write like four bars in the blue booth on a blue mic, whatever, whatever.Right.
21:46I just had that in my sidekick.And then one day at the studio session, the producer, shout out E-Rock from the Riffs,he played the beat.And it immediately made me think of those, yeah, and I went on and finished it out from that point.It's funny because I just had a,We just interviewed this kid, Rucci from Englewood, and he's a blood and everything.And as soon as I said, yeah, we got Spider-Log next, a bunch of dudes in the entourage.It's a blood of a world.
22:10They just fired busting it out right away.Shout out to my stepson, Woods from Englewood.He's Inglewood's finest.And shout out to the city, period, man.That's what I appreciated that.And I want to salute the red rag to Inglewood for getting the form painted back red.Y'all, it's called that.I don't know how y'all pulled it off.
22:27I appreciated it while it was true blue, but they did that.Like, no.It's just a paint job and it just happened to switch up?Yeah, the General Great Western Forum on my life had been red.Oh.For like the last decade, they had painted it blue.Right.It's red again.
22:41That's beautiful, huh?It's beautiful.That's beautiful.Okay, so you're doing your thing in the whole death row operation and shit,but are you sort of perceiving it go downhill the whole time?Yeah, I realize that.I have to actually, after about two years, approach it with this conversation,like I'm realizing it's more of a detriment to me
23:02to be associated with you, a benefit.And the reason why I had to approach himis because shout out John, who was running his website at the time,I had my own section as an artist on Shill's website.And I wanted my image to be taken downso I could go pursue other opportunities.I don't want nobody to say,she got you up there as an artist.
23:22So I had John to take it down.And John was like, yo, I can't do thatwithout somebody from the office telling me, Spider.So you got to have some.somebody from the office tell me.So I had to swallow that big-ass lump in my throat,not only because of who should was,but it's like, at this time of my life,
23:39I didn't know, I said, Shug,that's the biggest thing I could imaginebeing affiliated with in a game,being from where I was, with the knowledge that I knew,the network that I had.Like I told you the names I knew before that,so I'm thinking, how do you let go of this?But also, it's like right now,
23:54everybody knows that Shug, like, whatever,in terms of being a businessman and shit,that he's somebody you might not necessarily,want to work with. Did you get that vibe at the time? Were you slowly realizing, like, maybe this isnot a safe for healthy business arrangement? I didn't have enough business savvy to actually bescared of his business. He just never kicked any real money. So I got tired of being aroundstruggling, being broke, hoping and waiting on something to pop. So that's the only thing badabout this business that I was able to, you know what I'm saying, to see. I never.
24:29really got to see. I never had nothing that we were supposed to split and he tried to take too much orit never got to that. I know at one point, I realized I was, I wasn't signed a shit. So it was only somuch you could expect. But I did feel like everywhere else I went that the reception he was gettingwasn't that grand. So eventually, like I say, I have to let him know I need to be taken off yourwebsite. And surprisingly enough, you know, he didn't resist at all, wish me well, told me he apologizedthat he wasn't able to really do nothing for me at the time.You know what I'm saying?He was just realizing that the black ball was real.
25:05Right.You know what I'm saying?So everything he thought he was going to come home and just do.It was all getting kicked to the dirt.So he was like, you know, if I do get it popping before you get it popping, the door is always open.Right.Had no idea that I was going, I can't really remember how long it was before I met the New York dudes.But I- Yeah.
25:21How long until you met 50?It was a very short period of time, but I had no idea that that was going to transpide.Did you think that 50 and them were they, they,Were they people that you straight up would have had beef with off rip?Like you were aware of that while you were still with Shug?Man, let me tell you something.That Shug being on point, there would have been beef.Because at one point, me being on the back burner,
25:41being frustrated over there right before I had to get that Shud about letting me go.Shug actually approached me in the Buyall tribe.Shout out to the tribe.50 cents, first time coming to L.A. to perform at the House of Blues.And Shug wanted us to go in.there was some of our little homies purchase like champagne bottles he was going to buy thetickets and give us money to buy the bottles and when 50 hit the stage he wanted to have ourlittle homies pelting with bottles he was like house of blues don't sell uh bottles on uh bottle beer
26:14and bottles on hip-hop nights they pour the beer in cups she's like the only way we get bottlesis you have to buy a bottle he said i'll buy the bottles but he was like he wanted as soon as thatnigg got on stage he wanted that nigga to get bottled and you were with it hell no but i wouldhave been with it had out ofbeing more comfortable over there.But I was like, after all,only thing should when we did the soundtrack,the only song he asked me to get on was a diss song.
26:41The only other song that I actually got on the soundtrackwas a song I did on my own as Sir Jing Souts,turned it in and Eddie Griffin loved it so much.It was put on the soundtrack.So for you, after me being around two years,like you say, is it just for the muscle or whatever?We didn't have been in a lot of situations where I did smashing,you know, just got actively out and about,
27:03moving around, shit happens.And now here it is after all this time.As much as I wanted to get my feet wet in the game,you call us to the Bear Hills Hotel.We think in this time, because the Boo Y'all tribehad the same type of spirit.Like, you know, when we're gonna get a chance to get it cracking?Gangster Red was on the same disc song with it.
27:21But anyway, we get to the meeting,think he was gonna talk to us about some industries,and he was wanting us to do that.We were appalled.You were appalled because it's like at that point you feel like I've come too far to just be a crash desk dummy and go do this dumb shit that is obvious you're going to get caught.And just think having the intelligence or the wherewithal or whatever word you want to utilize to make that decision instead of just going with the okie doke.I wouldn't even whether I would have been identified as a participant or not.I wouldn't have been comfortable when I met this dude and the opportunity to even, you know, I had to be a real coach.
27:58old dude that participated in that, whether I got up out of there without being identified,and then still encounter him the way I did, I don't think I would have had the confidenceand the interest to approach the situation.I would have felt like, ooh, like, I don't know, I just felt like I was on opposite side.How did the conversation start to unfold with 50, and do you think 50 was attracted tothe fact that you were previously with death row and obviously, you know, like an enemy of myenemy as a friend of mine?After me and 50 decided to do something together, I was trying to like think about how I was
28:28going to bring up Shug and before a couple of days could go by, he was just, I didn't even knowhe was aware.I was like, I got to let this nigga know.I was just messing with dude.And he ought to be, before I can even bring it up, he was like, hey, yo, I don't knowif you care about what big boy thing, but I don't get fucked.So that was real refreshing to hear.I'm like, well, I even got a word about he was bringing it up.
28:47He's already aware.And he's expressing that he don't care what dude thing.So is what it was.Was 50?I remember hearing somebody say at one point, they were like,Somebody said to me, they're like, you know, I respect 50 because at one point he had like 100 crips around and protecting him and he never went around saying he was a crib.Is that accurate?I've never heard him say he was a crib.
29:09Right.So, you know, I know when I first, first met him and when he first mentioned, the first time I knew he wasn't 100% happy with what was going on with Doja, he said, you know, he's from the rest of up.And he said like, huh?So it was like, hmm.Before he discussed anything else, he looked at, he spoke at him like, he's from theRed So I noticed that.Interesting.Yeah.
29:39But I mean, you know, a lot of rappers, you know, shot a little Wayne.Well, Wayne, you know, he starts popping in the game and then he sort of adopts the bloodthing or whatever.Yeah, and he, you know, he had a grown man kiss him on his mouth fall on TV for years too,dude.Right.So he wears, you know, I've seen him wear like tights just, let him.Yeah, Juggings.
29:57Right, Jekings.Yeah, Jekings.You know, but the culture, you know, the Paroo, you know, then you got, you know, we all knowwhat the rainbow stands for these days.You had the biggest rapper in the game was rainbowed out.He was claiming the blood to.Not a 6-9 fan, I'm assuming.T'Cucci?
30:12Not at all.How are you going to be a fan of someone if you were a real one from the area we from?Oh, buddy, man.And, you know, the little bit of that tapped in just to get informed on what he had going on.I looked at a video, and when the video came on, he had his face transposed.face transposed onto a bikini bodyof a female, bro.He did, huh?
30:29Yeah, I'm lost.Then they actually held up his handsand a green screen rubber rainbowappeared in between his hands.Yeah.You probably don't even rememberthat the first time he went viral beforehe was really like a rapper and shit,
30:45he went viral because he had this shirt that saidHIV on it.I didn't know that.HIV.And I remember it going around on Twitter.Nobody knew he was, but everybody was laughing.like H-I-B, like, why HIV?Like, that's a wild-ass shirt to wear.
30:59Wow.A couple years later, he was a huge rapper.Yeah, I didn't know nothing about him until he was the hugest.Right.So I finally was forced to like, okay, let's see what it's all about.And that was part of my introduction, seeing his head on the female body I was through.Yeah.I can't blame me for that.
31:14So, okay, the 50 thing starts unfolding was he, does he start mentioning right away the ideaof you signing to him?Immediately.He was actually, when I met him, he was having a conversation with Young Buck aboutD-Tay being robbed for the G-Unist spinner.Right.It was a very intense conversation.It was very serious, very upset.
31:30He was talking about some real high-power things about what should happen next,what could happen, the possibilities, and just how we're sitting here having a conversationright now.If my homie over there just started loud rapping, like, while we're talking, that's what I did.So you started actually putting your skills on display.I'm sitting about this close to him in a traitor full of niggas.Right.And he was discussing what he was discussing.
31:52So what I'm trying to tell you is I took the absolutely worst time to be disrespectful and interrupt him in his conversation and didn't ask for permission and I just began to rap.Wow.And immediately, but when I did the same thing, Young Buck, during the same period of time, he was talking to people that we both knew.I didn't know him, but because I knew someone he knew when he got to Atlanta two days after the chain got took in Chicago, I was in his hotel room before he got there.So he walked in, he's just addressing the whole group.about what went on.I did the same thing to him.Immediately, I knew I had it.
32:27The way he was looking and following me.It caused me just to keep going, keep going, keep going.He eventually had to stop me from rapping.50.I was this close to 50.That nigga was looking at me like,who the fuck is this?Who man is this?
32:39Will somebody get him?So, like, I didn't even get my energy up as wellfor 50 as I did for bucks.I'm thinking I'm fucking up.Like, damn, I shouldn't have did this shit.But I didn't turn back,so I had to keep going.But I'm going to tell you,
32:50At that time of my life, my thing was to not stop until somebody stopped me.But I eventually, for 50, because he didn't show no emotion.I'm like, I could keep going.And that nigga was like, for what?Get his number.We're going to call it the second platoon.He started rattling in it off immediately.So that's to answer your question immediately.
33:09Once he hurt me, get down.He was like, we're going to do this.Okay.So how does it start going from there?You actually signed a deal this time as opposed to the death row thing?Yeah, I actually signed the deal after about.I guess, I don't know, it was less than a year, maybe, but some months up until then.He was looking out.
33:26I jumped on tour with Buck on straight out of Casrio tour.Every now and then we would meet up with Banks and different cities, and then we went on the anchor management tour.Got an opportunity to meet Eminem a couple of times, not personally, not get to have to have toto have to conversate with him in a big group, but I did get to shake his end.That's a godly type energy when you're around that dude.Gares a lot of respect.He's in the room.That's all anybody is paying attention to him.
33:50Yes, he doesn't have to say nothing.Nothing.He seems like, he seems like such an introvert.What I did get the opportunity to see is,when we were on tour,we was on a tour with the likes of Sierra,little John,Titty boy, shout out two chans.
34:07What up, my nigga.Had a second life later on.Yeah, of course he did.That was beautiful to see.Ludicris, a little scrappy.But every night,out of the 40-something dates,M&M did like 12 or 13,
34:20dates. He would fly his helicopter into the venue, the dates he did, and then he would be goneafter it. So when he was there, he was the headliner. Outside of that, G-Unit was the headliner.So when M&M was there, G-Undt would come on right before M&M. I noticed from the first act,when the sun was still up and people were just coming to the arena, every artist on a stagealways says, put your hands up, put your hands up. That's part of the show. Hight Man, you're goingto repeat that. G-unit, it was a definite must. If you're on that stage and you'renot wrap it, constantly have your hand up because it's monkey see, monkey do, and to constantlyrepeat, keep the energy going, keep the crowd engaged, keep your hands up. So I watched that be the
35:00focus of the energy. When M&M coming arena, now you know he's the head aligning, there's morepeople here now than there has been the whole night. Also, I noticed this, a G-Unit say, lightyour lighters up, light your cell phones up, you might get 60% of the arena participate.When M&M come on stage, my nigga, he don't say put your hands up. You don't say put your hands up.up one time. He throw his hand up the wholefucking arena, do the same as thatshit. He started doing this. Theyall do it. He put his hand down. They don't
35:28stop for the whole fucking show.Then when he say, like this motherfucker up,everybody in theregot it lit up. He has a court following.That's something to witness,bro. That's amazing. Yeah, it'sdifferent. Let me ask you this. You're coming fromthe streets of L.A. and then all of a sudden
35:44you're on tour with 50 and Young Buck.And I know that you have your own opinionsof them that I guess we can get intoover time, but early ondid it appear to you?You being a guy who's born, bredstraight up, L.A. shit.You know, you have a certain definition on what it is to be
36:00a man. Did it start to occurto you early on that something might bea little weird about these guys? No?It took some time. Okay.It took that much time, at least. I wasthat convinced. What's the fifthsymbolized here? Look good.Oh, the Guneita.
36:15Yeah. I was convinced that I was with some realdudes. Right.You know what I'm saying?At least I thought I was banging with a decent groupso they left the loke hanging when I beefed with Snoot.How did I go down?Well, actually, because Snoo's told me,gee, you only can't say you because I was having some back and forth
36:33for Doja.He told me he wasn't with it.He's running the West Coast, and he don't care what nobody think.But I couldn't do that.And he had the West Coast on lock.And if I had issues with Doja, that was his homeboy,he wasn't going for it.And I guess that's scared 50.
36:49So you think that's what made 50 sort of separate from youis you having issues with Snoop.You know, 50, he keeps Snoop nuts in his mouth.He worship Snoop.So he was scared of Snoop.You know what I'm saying?I don't know.Snoop scared him.
37:04That's interesting, though, because it feels like in recent times,we're talking about early 2000s,very few people do you really hear them come outand say that they've had beef with Snoop?It feels like he got into that, like, grandfatherly role pretty early.I mean, he's usually non-confrontational.And I admit that me, myself personally, I allowed the influences should ignite to cause me to say some derogatory things toward him that I would guess probably should not have been done.So I made it my business once I got down with G-Unit, knowing that he was affiliated with them in a positive sense.
37:37I approached him as a man and, you know, offer my apologies.And we were supposedly cool.Everything was 100.He told me, keep it crippling because it ain't nothing.He did a record for my debut album on G-Unit.And the next thing I knew, he was on interviews dissing mebecause I was having issues with gang.I mean, Doja.
37:59So, you know, through the years,just because, you know, I've got the reputationof being the fuck up the eye head.And then that's Snoop Dog.You know, the issues were the issues.But I've put them aside tons of timesin the tempted to min them.But it seems as if that
38:14it's something that he chose, you know,It was something going on that I wasn't really aware of.Okay.Yeah.Interesting.Do you ever look at a situation like that and feel like Snoop ended up siding with game in thatsituation just because game was the bigger artist and it just made, it was more beneficialto him covering it was?
38:32Dr. Dre, all that affiliation.My thing is this.You know, you could have Snoop Dogg held a position.Now I see how the game is, the way the networking and affiliations.He could have all those.concerns and got at me.We had spoken before.We had communicated.
38:52The thing about it is I hear thison an interview.I get on the phone with him.We hash it out.Then you'll see three months later,it's another interview with himwas speaking derogatory.You know what I'm saying?
39:03So I just didn't understand it.You know.Interesting.Okay, so...He told me via internet.I have the clip in my phone.He fucked with mebecause 50 cent fuck me.
39:17I'm from Eastside Crip, honey.Boyn and Compton.Compton and Long Beach together?Now you know you're in trouble.Does that seem weird to you?Like, as an L.A. dude to fuck with me because I'm fucking with a New York camera?That is extremely weird.That makes your crippling super corny.
39:33On top of the fact that you just recently claimed that this gay entertainer that likes to flip,I think he was an ex-power ranger.He's on social media.He has a personality.He does a lot of little skits and stuff.The only reason I'm aware of him is the Snoop Dogg posted him on hispage for about a week straight claiming that he was super gazed because number one fan.That's not crippling at all.
39:57So it's like through the years, no matter how, I always think if I approach, when you thinka snoop dog thing super crippling, boom, bam, that establishes a protocol to where there's,I know how I can never be wrong with you if you are cripp.If that's what you are, I know how to deal with you.So when I see you do things, there's a large range of things that are accepted,but there's certain things that just baffled me that made me say,I don't know what he on. French tips, I don't get it.Right.
40:24The world has gone a lot friendlier to homosexuals and such over the years.Maybe gang banging has been probably pretty resistant to that largely.Do you feel like you're kind of viewed as like old school because you clearly think that that stuff has no place in your culture?No, I haven't spoken about a place it has in the culture.Okay.I'm talking about individuals, such as.Snoop Dog claiming that he's that dude's number one fan.When I have three sons in the Snoop Dog youth football league,
40:54I find that conflict and interest amissing.So if our masculinity is looking up to Snoopas some type of role model or somebody that looked to as a man,for him to claim that this other dude,and you're a crippled dude, I don't even fuck.Everybody, what society can't speak on,cripping. Now, societyis what it is, but once we claim to be in this
41:18fraternity, we have a different rule.Now, as an individual, you can acceptanyone, but for him to be the godfatheror cripping to the world, and theyclaim to be the number one fanor the dude that I can't name right now,it doesn't work. But Snoop's attitudewould probably just be,
41:35I'm however many years old.Your bad. Game banging don't really matter that muchin that specific way. Quit doing it.His attitude would be, who gives the fuck of this guy'sgay? Who cares? I don't, nobody cares.But if you being his number one fan and you promoting that, you can't promote manhood to my sons.Yeah.I mean, I see what you're saying.
41:53The same way that guy is proud to be homosexual.And he promotes it.I'm proud to be heterosexual.And I promote it.I think if he's allowed to be that way or if there's a group or a sector people allowed to be that way,I am allowed to be the same way about my sexuality.I should be allowed to promote it with the same amount of fervor and excitement to my children.Right.
42:15If they're going to put the homo element in children's entertainment like cartoons, I thinkI should be able to be just as expressive with my children how great heterosexual activityis.Right.But I don't think anything, I don't think that Snoop Dogg celebrating a gay actor or musicianor whatever really is a threat on heterosexuality.I feel like- You keep using words.That guy just happens to be gay.
42:39But then, an icon is claiming to be his number one fan.an icon as a football organization leader for all young men in the inner city.Right.He has put itself up here.So when you start making a correlation of a lot of things going together in the same group,there's certain things that don't fit in that group.Right.And I'm saying Cripping.
43:00I'm not speaking on nothing else.Right.Just if you're going to take the Crip, just think about this, bro.If you can make an album called Make America Crip again and a gospel album in the same year.Mm-hmm.And you got to stand for something.I was always taught stand for something to fall for anything.And so when you look at sensual seduction and other things of that,
43:22I think instead of stand for something, he's been falling for anything,doing anything.So the soul in front of the world on murder was the case.But don't you, wait, you think you sold the soul on murder of the case?You didn't see the video?Where he's in the casket and whatnot.Right.Yeah, right style of me.
43:35I'll make it better.Remember the devil came in?You thought that was some satanic shit.I don't say, I thought, look at what you saw.The black hair, the white face.the black fingernails.It's just art though, right?The voice or satanic type art.
43:47Yeah.Okay.So we just going to, I'm not, I'm not feeling to call it what it's not.Right.I'm not calling it other than what it is.He was riding in a car in a jack.That crow type creature with the black hair, white face, black fingernails.Right.
44:00That came in his window as a black bird, sat in a chair and they turned it to that man,told him, bring your lifestyle to me.Y'all make it better.Does that sound godly?No, but it seems.like it was almost like a reference to like a horror movie type thing was how i took it so i'm dyingthe bird came in and turned it to a white man the devil looking out if that don't look like devilyou i don't know what you call it but he was riding in the car smoking some weed right that dude
44:29turned into smoke he hit the weed and he smoked the old dude up any mother right i'm saying every everythinghe said came to reality that's not god yeah but don't you think when you look back of that i mean i look at thatI was like, you know, a lot of people in the rap game have taken the bad things that were happening in their personal life and then managed to spin it in an entertaining way.And when I look at that situation, I'm like, Snoop was dealing with a real deal murder case.And he managed to make videos that referenced it that people at home just thought was dope.They like the artist artistry of it regardless.And I agree with you that it's kind of crazy because we are talking about somebody losing that life.I'm not saying it was artistic or creative.
45:06Yeah.But I'm talking about the spiritual overtone.You can't deny it.Nobody.I mean, you can call it.it and you candescribe it and justifyit however you choose.
45:18I'm not here to pass judgmenton it. I am just reminding you what you saw.Now, if you can say you sawthat and didn't see anything thatrepresented somebody selling they sold that.But do you think that the worldat large is generally just notreally concerned with that kind of stuff
45:34in the way that maybe your priorgenerations were?That might be true.Yeah.But Snoop is older.to me. So our generation is more similar than its new generation.Do you think the money changed them, the fame, kind of made him forget about stuff like thatthat you might?
45:50Man, y'all got to understand. First of all, if you look at his age when he got started and whathe became to the world is this super active experience crypt, he never really had the timeto live that life. If you knew the real backdrop stories of things that he was going throughin death row. Really? Yeah. A lot of things took place that he wasn't proud of.Yeah. As a man, as a gangbanger, getting spit on on planes. They kind ofThey didn't do it right on his movie.He got spit on my pool rock.The nigga would be with Wack 100.
46:18Right.Yeah, he sped on him on a plunt.I mean, you see that from...Dre, same thing.So Dre, so...Dre gets so wrapped up in the death row thing,and then he falls back, and he's been in the studio for 30 years.But Dre had never been a crew.
46:29Right.Never been a blood.He's always been an artist.And when you knew he was doing the gangster stuff,you knew he was performing.Right.So, you know, Dre goes by...He gets a whole other standard.
46:39Right.What's the status of you on Wack 100?Wack, no, honey.That's what I'm not a fan.He was recently coming atYG tough.You see that?I've seen that, man.
46:51That was interesting because Blueface did a videowith YG like a week before that.But that's Wax M.O. What else do you know about Wackother than he's had interactionwith other men and most of them negative?Right.What else? There's nothing else to know about.There's a lot of that is what we know for
47:05interacting with people on social media going at people's heads.That's it.And even when he's speaking positive, he's always speaking aboutanother nigga. There's no accolades to speak about itself until now. He's attached to asuccessful project. For the last 10 years, however long you've been seeing him establish itself,it's always by having another nigga name in this mother. When did you guys start to have aproblem? What did that start with? The day I met him, he told me, man, I'm fucking on your oldbitch, man. I put her through a nursing school and put her through a bartersome braces. She
47:34looked way better now, though. And that was funny too. Wait, what year was that? This was like2000. He said that too. And was it true?Yeah, it was somebody.Wasn't my old bitch.Some girl used to fuck with.Yeah, I fucked with.She's from my hood.Nine, seven, six.
47:46Love you, boo.That's my loat, though.That's my own girl.I was a young nigga fresh out the pen.We came back.We're from the same set.That's a wild confrontational-ass thing to say to somebody.Yeah, but assuming that that was my girl.
48:00Right, but he probably knew it wasn't really a girl,and he was still saying it just to what to test the water, see what she were about.See what I was going to say.See if I was going to talk about what I've done with her and all that, which ain't my thing.Right.So I'm like, oh, that's the wrong girl.Shook his hand, whatever.So I thought that was it.
48:15But however, for the last decade or 15 years,plus every time I bump in the whack, he mentioned her.Really?If I have a new person with me and introduce him,the last time I can remember, I had my homie from 6'9 with me last time I seen,I'm like, this is my homie from 6'9 East Coast.Oh, my wife from East Coast.I put it through private.
48:38I put it through nursing school and brought her braces, though.He used to fuck with her.It's something that's always on the tip of his tongue.He's a buster for that.So I always knew he was a weirdo for that.So, you know, I never liked him for that.But I've dealt with him, you know, chestnut checkers.A lot of pieces you let's stay on the board for a long time, you know, just because.
48:56By the time you get to the game, you still need something to knock over.But it's, like, risen up to the social media type level.He lied on me, man.What did he say?I looked up on the internet and he was talking about someday.He was in Hollywood.He got a phone call from Doja saying that.I had him surrounded and Doja called for help.
49:14He said he was with Shug Night.And him and Shugnight had a conversation about should they go,Shug like we ain't going over there.Mob Deep was supposedly involved.And I had me and Mobb Deep and some OJunayunuchyand Niggas had Doja surrounded in Beverly Hills.At a hotel in Santa Monica.Somebody told me to ask about that.
49:32Thank you.Watt, no, honey, told the world that I was going to do something.And he had time to get a phone call.Are you in Shignight?and show up and diffuse a situation.Nobody that knows me would believe that.Right.What am I waiting on?
49:47What was going on all this timewe was waiting on you to show up?I was never there.I have no recollection of this.Oh, so you weren't even there at all?Never have been there.Oh, wow.So when I seen you was bold enough to tell that lie on me,
49:58it's fuck you.Ho-ass knicker?Do you think he knows it's not true?Yeah, he knows it's not true.There was too many other people there.Supposed these.Prodigy recalls this whole storyin his audio book.
50:12My name is not mentioned.However, my name is mentioned in the book.When it was times when my name is supposed to be relevant,my name comes up.When he tells the story,he names the people that was there.My name never comes up.Is this the situation that Forty Glock was there for
50:25that you weren't there for?Okay.And that was the confusionbecause Forty Glock has talked about it a lotand the claim that he was...You know how bad that nigga been wanting.He's been arguing with...Wackn'Hon Hunt had been accrediting that incident to me
50:40for years. Foti'd been screaming at the top of his lungs. That wasn't him. That was me.That was me. He won't the credit for that. That's the type of nigger that was standing thereallows a nigga to make a phone call and let some niggas argue have time to come there,get all the way to the scene and nothing never happened. That's the type of nigger that I dothat. Not me, bro. I'm not no extra-d-out nigga, but if I'm there having an issue with aI don't like.I'm not, whack no, honey, could never stop me from doing nothing.Then he went on the internet to talk about T unit, Crip.
51:13He said he told me, I ain't never heard of that.Nigger, what you mean?Nick, I'm from ECG unit.Nugger, it was a whole clan of it.I don't give a fuck what you heard of.You are from the valley.There's a whole lot of shit going on on these east side streets.You ain't never heard of.
51:27You queer, though.When you see him saying that shit about how YG used to claim Crip and stuff,does that mean anything to you?Do you see that as just a reach?Let me tell you.Everybody knows I had my time speaking on YG and the public.Shortly before Nipsey Hustle died, he FaceTiming,and he requested that whatever it was between me and YG,
51:50whatever issue I had.If it wasn't that big, it wasn't that deep.Because of their relationship and he explained to me why YG matter to him so much,things that they went through certain events at a video shoot,day one, things that they went through.that why it mattered to him.And he said, if it wasn't that bigger thing,is it something that I could get over and squash?
52:11So I immediately took down all my related postsabout the issues of YG.And then I...I don't know.I'm like, because they're down.I told him, though, that immediately was done.So I ain't got nothing to say about the SIP, the neighborhood.I love you, lo.
52:28But besides that, Wacknell Hunter is a buster, though, period.He's a weird old wherever he's getting at.You know what I'm saying?I don't know.there is nobody I know in this game that has less respectthan if you're a name that's in this gamethat typically comes with more respect than Wack No Honey.You don't think Wack has respect out there?
52:47I don't even speak about what I think that much.I only deal with facts when I'm talking to other people.I can tell you about what I think and what I feeland that's up for discussion.But I'm going to tell you about facts.Wack, no, honey has zero.Nobody gives a fuck about Wack, no, honey.If he's not speaking about who else he's cool with
53:03that has some respect. It's the only respect he gets.Crazy. I will say about whack, I talked to him at backstage at BlueFet show one time,told me he was down to do the interview the next morning, hit him up the next morning,did not hit me back.It's type of whole ass nigga he is.Ghosted on me. Hard, whack, what up?That's the type of duty is. It's type of duty is, bro.Damn, that's crazy. Do you think that, like, are you at the stage in your life where anything
53:26could ever happen where y'all would just link up and run the fade or whatever or have any sort ofconflict? Like, is that even something that you think couldn't happen at this point?I don't discuss violence via media. That's smart. You know what I'm saying? Holes ishos. They out here, we call spades, spades. I'm saying. If you look through my history,a lot of incidents you can point to let you know, I ain't scared of no competition. Am I lookingto do anything to anyone harmful? No. Am I looking to have any kind of physical altercation withanyone know? Good. Period. Let's keep it that way. Let's just keep it to the internet, right?So when did the relationship start to go south with 50?
54:05You know, I was tolerating a lot of undesired energy.Right.So it's hard to pinpoint the moment.But when it was obvious, it's when the first time he ever went live in history.Right.On This is 50.Banks and Yeo was his wingman at the time.He had been advertising that he was going to be live for the first time on This is 50 for quite some time.
54:28He had a countdown.And when he finally went live, the first few questions were about me,and he got extremely pissed off, went off on the fans,told him they didn't know how to ask good questions,and said some of his face.He looked in highly disgusted.The fans want to know about the shit thing you're not talking about.You know, they want to know about the details.
54:48Like, if you were pushing an artist for a while and then you stop pushing the artist,of course the fans are going to want to know about that artist.Yeah, I mean, or they could have been wanting to know why you were pushing.The thing about it is that's what they wanted to know.like you say, and he didn't like that.Right.It's such a queer, though, move.He got two of his artists with him.
55:05So I know you wouldn't have said that had they asked about either of them.But the first question is about me and you was irritated.He went on to state to them that I had plenty of music, including beautiful world out.He said, I don't even have an interesting record out at the time.So that's when, you know, I've never seen Chevy talk bad about the Impala or the Malibu.So when I realized, you know, that's what I was up under that type of regiment.I knew what I was dealing with.Right.
55:31Yeah, it's crazy too because it's like, when you look at the trajectory of howJunet went, it was like, you know, the early artist that he was pushing like banks and gameand shit, he was on tons of songs, even the Buck album, he was on a bunch of songs.He was really working.He was giving them hit records that he knew were going to be hits.He did the same with me.Yeah?Yeah, same with me.
55:49I put him out finally last year and he got him cease and desist.So those records never actually made it.Yeah, because we never really heard any like Bangor Records with you and 15.50 back then, really.We had about, we had about seven or eight.A couple of them.But I was having a minute cut.They couldn't come out.
56:03I mean, that was what they was, you know, yeah, it was supposed to be for the album.Right.Damn and he's still seasons assisted it.You've got all these fucking years, huh?Yeah, he had Mario on his media team, sent some letters to the digital distributors and have it poured down.That is hilarious.Yeah, but go check out the lost tapes.The songs were 50, they still on YouTube.
56:20Y'all can bump them.But the lost tapes, the project is still available for download.Right.I just took them songs off.And it's out there floating, though.Right.That's just crazy to think because, I mean, when you look at the relationship, like,did you think that he were going to get a similar push to what he had done for a game?
56:39Indeed.Yeah.Definitely.He gave me a whole lot of plans and intentions he had.He told me that my record was done and ready 1699, prepared for sale and it was time to roll out.If you look at it, what he proposed to do for me, he hasn't done for anyone after me.So I don't take it as personal.It was like the Yale album didn't sell and then he never really got behind any of his artist projects too tough after that
57:04All those are symptoms of the actual source of the issue issue was he tore his ass with Jimmy IvinAnd when he tore his ass with Jimmy I vain his music success seized period what do you mean tore his ass with Jimmy IvinThere was a certain protocolThat the defiant ones has set up the way things went at in the scopeAnd he didn't want to fall in line he tried to do things his own way really because he was getting too powerfulHe tried to jump over.Curtis Interscope Jackson.He had a misconception.
57:32It's crazy to think if 50 had fallen in line with what they wanted him to do and everything,would we be looking at 50 more like Eminem now?Because Eminem is the one dude who still can sell an insane amount of records.He still has that shelf life.But he's at a very calculated, intelligent career in the sense that he disappears for long periods of times,keeps coming back out.Clearly the albums are A&R defuck.There's a lot of thought putting into him, putting into making hit records and stuff.
57:57look at 50, he went the own way. He wanted to do his own thing. It's really interesting to think aboutcould 50 be more like Jay-Z right now if he had fallen in line with Interscope? Oh, definitely.That's crazy. Most definitely. 50 explained to me that the reason why he was successful and thatwe were successful and we're going to be successful was not because of the quality of the product.It was because of the strength of the machine and the system that we were attached to. And he describedit as if we did a dud, we still okay. Not that we would do one on purpose, but we would.we're going to be okay. And then shortly thereafter, he decided to self-destruct before I self-destruct.And he had decided to go into a negative encounter business-wise, whatever you want to call it,
58:40with dude. Interesting. Yeah. And sort of all came from that.It was a time when in the back, behind the scenes, in our camp, 50, he had a song. He wasplaying, threatened to put out where he was saying he saw Jimmy Iveen and Drake kissing.that's how bad his blood was with Jimmy Yovine.And now you don't believe that that's anything that actually happened.You think he just wanted to stir shit up?He used to play everybody that would have been viral.Everybody that was around at the time, know what I'm talking about.
59:15He played it plenty of times.Really?Yeah.Interesting.Do you think Dre's gay?None of my business.Right.There's been a lot of people.
59:23Tupac said it a lot.You did, huh?Shug said it a lot.I was watching the Snoop roast the other day,and Tony Hinchcliff made that joke on stage,and I was like, whoof, I haven't heard anybody joke around about that in a minute.I mean, you know, Tupac said it a lot.Shug said it a lot when I was there.
59:40There was a rule, like in an office that if you go to say Snoop Dog name,you immediately corrected and say you'd be told to call him the bitch.And for Dre, you'll be immediately corrected and be told to call him the fat.Wow.You couldn't even say their name in the office without getting corrected.That's crazy.When you look at Shug in retrospect,do you see him as like a,
01:00:01just an evil mastermind, mind control-ass cult type of coup?No, no, no.Because stuff like that seems really weird.Like, he's trying to create this, like, cult mentalitywith all of his dudes, huh?Well, it was just like, not, I won't say you couldn't.That's why I say you would just get reminded.Like, you bet not.
01:00:19It was like, oh, you seen Dr. Jay, you had this come out.Oh, you mean the fact?Snoop Dogg gonna be at the house blueOh the bitchIt was just a constantYou would never get away withCalling them by their nameWithout being reminded
01:00:32No, that's their real nameThere was a permanent picture up on the wallDefame and both of themReally? YeahWhat was it?It was like cartoon charactersAre representing them like feminineLike a pig
01:00:42Like they had the characterOf a pigAnd I thinkI think Snoop had like some female clothesI can't rememberBut I just rememberIt was a picture in the wallLike this and both of them
01:00:51And they can'tThat's kind of weirdAnd obsessive to meIt's a little much.I'm not going to put my ops on the wall.I'm going to forget about it and just not talk about it.When you start claiming pyro with a million dollars in your 30s, that's what you get.Right.
01:01:03You start going to prison in your 30s.Yeah.That's what happens.Yeah.Crazy.The buck versus 50 on social media.I know you're watching this shit just like everybody else.We got to get you to talk about your thoughts on this whole thing.
01:01:18I just see how the boy 50 run.He ran the play up being ranked.Right.You know what I'm saying?I say, don't miss this movie.I'm controlling the whole shit on this whole nigga headfor all that trolling the whole shit.Yeah, 50 got me blocked on social media.
01:01:32Because you've been trolling them.You've got to be dropping comments left and right.You've been getting thousands of likes on the comments on the shit.Yeah, I know the business.When I know, I knew something was up with Vivica blocked me.But it's obvious that he gave Vivica a Fox a gag orderin a bag of money.Really?
01:01:50Yeah, because she was talking about,his sexuality in a very questionable mannervery loosely in publicand then she just ceased out of nowhere.You think 50's really good?It's none of my business.But I know this.I speak about facts.
01:02:0750 was on a talk showwhere the homosexual host,Caucasian man,made him aware thatwhen Vivica Fox was onthe show just not too long agothat she indicated thatshe indicated that she
01:02:21believed that he was gay.And 50's response was, oh, no,because I let her have sex in my asshole,she thinks I'm gay with her tongue the way she...Right.So, my thing is this.He somehow has let Vivica do something to himthat he feels has some type of gay aura to it.
01:02:42I don't know why he would go to that.Do you think letting Vivica a Fox eat your ass is gay?No.No.I'll probably let her dig around in there.I mean, this is my thing.I don't think 50 cents thinks that's gay either.Right.
01:02:55I don't think he presumes any.I think that was, he came up when it was so quick.That wasn't so we can get deflect from what she was really talking about.Right.That's smart.That's what it was.Interesting.50 is weird too because you never really, you rarely see them connected to like big star females publicly.
01:03:13Man, check this out.Fadjo called 50 Cent a Google faggage.Fact Joe swears that there's a gay.mob that runs hip-hop.They're BFFs now.Man, I feel like I just keep getting into the rap game,but I still haven't really been turned on to that.I keep waiting for somebody to have a meeting
01:03:33and try to convince me I have to join this gay cult.And I'll be like, no, I'm straight, bro.I mean, I've just seen Fat Joe speak like he's convincedthat is fully aware of it.I just feel like if that was the case, then they need to tap out,tap in the Buck Jenner.He can run it.He could be the,
01:03:50face of it. Right. You feel me? Somebody need to motivate him to step into his truth. Yeah. TheBuck thing is wild. Super wild. When did you start to become aware of the fact that he might beinto that? And you think that there's any sort of recovery path for him and rap? I don't know.People are happy to accept that. I mean, look at love and hip-hop. Every hip-hop show has a supergay element. There's a big, if he has the courage to accept who he is, he could be the biggestthing in the game. That's the whole problem. If young Buck came out and did a DJ Vladinterview or a no jumper interview by the way that would be great but for some reason the DJbladder music is funny for me to imagine and if it was titled young buck comes clean about
01:04:30transgender out the closet thing blah blah blah you would have people left and right Twitter wouldlove him to the fact that he doesn't seem like he wants to talk about it is the weird part yeahthat's what I'm saying he's scared of money talk all that money talk we already caught you with yourhand in the cookie door and now you're scared of the money I can see if you had a secret tokeep quiet. It's no secret, bro. You think you're from the fool the world that youwasn't in love with Greg, then you think we, but that's like 50. He'd tell the fans, y'alleven know how to ask good questions because they asked. He said, what the fuck kind of questionsthat is? Right. So they think they could just tell people anything, and sometimes it appears
01:05:06that they can. I was surprised that so many grown men came with to me. He used to ask mewas Olivia, a man. That was always a weird. That was one of the finest women I had ever been.She was bad. She was bad.She was tall and short. Short.Oh, really?Oh, short, pretty feet, pretty face.I could see how people could maybe if you looked at certain photos of her in a weird angle.I saw what they were saying, but it was also so obvious that she-
01:05:31I never heard him say, only heard him say it.Who?Doja.Oh, really?Okay, he's the only one.You would just see it in the comments and stuff that people love to troll about that.That's where they got it from.That's where they got it from him.
01:05:41Right.So you were, were you had beef with game before G-Unit and then were briefly cool with him for a period of time and then fell out?No, me and game were cordial.And I got to G-Unit and he wasn't receptive.You're the big blood and you're the big star of the show.And then they're like, oh, we're going to bring this Crip in too.It's kind of like, ugh.Yeah, and that's exactly how he proceeded from that point.
01:06:07But there's nothing to actually, you know, worth pinpointing as an event that took placewhat actually was times when he was full-fledged G-U-N-9.And then he would call my phone and ask me, could I get at 50 and tell him I'm throwing in the top?don't nobody want to work with me.I can't get no white folks to cut no checkbecause I ain't cool with dude.And then I would approach 50 with itand 50 it'd be like fuck that because you know why?
01:06:31Tomorrow that nigga gonna be on some doing saying something different.And lo and behold,that nigga will be back on stage dissing again two days later.So yeah, so our relationship would have never been,I was gonna like when Fitwin game first started dissingGing he would say positive things about methe same songs.He was trying to make a connection.
01:06:54Yeah, I'm a separation, and I tried to accept that.But you see the tattoo?So I'm from 9-7 East Coast.You can't diss my hood and say except for you.It don't work like that.We was out here at G-U-Noot moving, and you G-U-Nought.It just didn't work, so it was just, wasn't personal.You know what I'm saying?
01:07:11I could see if you was already G-U-N-Nat.Then I jumped on.No, you were still G-U-Nit.Before your album came out, Buck album hadn't evencame out, I was there.So it's a all G unit.You turned on G unit.I was part of G unit.
01:07:25So I'm going to do what,what you expect me to do.If you saw game right now, though,is there a chance that y'all would just laughand just be like, man, that shit was stupid?I mean, if he's willing to laugh,I'm laughing at anything.What do you think it would be like, though,
01:07:37if you just happen to see him on the street?I couldn't.So I don't know.You guys couldn't really be mad enough about itthat you'd have to get aggressive right away, right?It's been so long.We're going back to the last timewe talked about these type of activities.
01:07:49I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going to have no plans to do nothing, no.Right.I'm going to defend myself against any and everything, though.So, you know.Definitely.How do you feel about the state of L.A. rap these days?There's a lot of rappers who've kind of popped off out of here.It was cold for years.
01:08:05It feels like over the past however many years, shit is really,there's a big underground scene.You got mega stars like Kendrick and shit.What are your thoughts on the overall scene?I mean, because of the mega shine,like Kendrick got in there, like, you know,the establishment of a neighborhood.You know, the success of YG is experiencing, and then the others on the level slightly lower than them.
01:08:25Then you got the Ritey Riches and others of that nature popping up.You know, you've got to be happy for our issue.We just want to keep adding to it and keep it cracking.Definitely.Is there anything you don't care for in terms of what you see coming out?A lot.A lot has changed in hip-hop.It's a lot that I don't like or a lot that's not my taste.
01:08:44I don't say I don't like because I try to refrain from describing others' art.in a negative manner because art is just that.Right.You go to art again.Look at a million-dollar painting and call it bullshitbecause it looked like a nigga just do a gang of random colors on the wall.So art is art.It's not all to my taste.
01:09:09And I think the general popular sound is not to my particular taste,but I think it's still wrong for what I appreciate the most to still shinebecause niggas like Mazzie was doing it.You know, niggas like Nipsey.So, you know, I ain't really with everything I hear,but I can appreciate some of that type of music, too.Is it weird to see the gangbanging shit thrown around so muchin the sense that a lot of it is just an obvious marketing thing?
01:09:37Well, I mean, you know, the whole gang bang thing is so watered down that, you know,it's just like it is what it is.I don't have a passionate attachment to gang banging anymore.I really don't have a concern what, uh,turn gang banging makes in general as far as if they stick into the script of it or not.Like I say, I'm taking my only affiliation with gang banging back to the original essenceof trying to do something positive within my community.And I just do that because I don't want to be a guy who has done it all this time.
01:10:09And then now I want to act like, oh, that's not me.Yeah, I'm a Crip.I'm not a gangbanger, though.Right.You know what I'm saying?Marines are still Marines, whether they at the bear.or, you know, in active duty, you're still a Marine.So if we have a Marine dance, you might show up to the dance.
01:10:28But that don't mean you're going to be out there on the battlefield.So you go back to your old, yeah, you want that.You go back to your old neighborhood and you see some kid that maybe you knew him when he was a little kid.You knew him when he was five.Now he's like 18 and it's obvious that he's in the streets to whatever extent that he thinks the game bang and shit is dope.How do you talk to him?What's the attitude?I don't give advice.
01:10:53I mean, I give advice to my children, my small inner circle.Somebody asked me a question.I give them the most honest, applicable answer that I could find for the moment.I really live in a moment.I don't really know what nobody should do other than do the best thing you can do for yourselfbecause everybody's not moving at the same pace.And I can't judge nobody activity in the streets.because I took.
01:11:19I ran from private school against all type of counsel and advice and did whatever I wantedto the detriment of those around me, myself, my future, the success.I think everybody that I'm responsible for perhaps will be better off at this point had I madebetter decisions in the past.And I didn't allow no one's outside influence to cause me to do anything different.So I'll give you advice as far as me trying to make sure you do whatever you're doingto the best of your ability.I got a record on my latest project,
01:11:51which is called illiterate.It's called Doing Life.And part of the hook says,whether you're doing wrong or doing right,make so you do it right.You know what I'm saying?So whatever you're doing,just do it the best, you know,
01:12:04because when your back's against the walland your family ain't going to eatunless you run up in this grocery storeand stuffing the steaks down your pants,who's going to,who can you got to tell you that that's not what you're supposed to do that day?So, you know, just be careful.Right.
01:12:22And then it depends on my relationship with you.If I have a relationship with you, it warrants me getting that further in your business,then I might have something more edifying to say to a specific individual.But there's no particular warning message.I'm going to live my message.You see, you don't see me around here with that bullshit no mother.Right.So if you can't see what I would prefer to see you do through my actions,
01:12:43that you might be a lost cause anyway.When I carry myself different, I like to see young niggas that pull up.pop up, hopper my pastor, see like, damn, SBI, what you got going on?What could I do?Man, oh, do, do.Now, if you get at me like that, then I'm going to put you some game.But if you jump in the car, talking about,hey, we busts on whoop in them last night, I'm going to tell you,
01:13:00you took him with you, you know, he ain't.Right.What is you into?Right.Crazy.What do you got going on these days?And what keeps you making music knowing that rap is a, you know,sort of viewed as like a young man's game, a lot of, like, older dudes,
01:13:18sort of like they don't necessarily know how to continue to be artists as they get older.What motivates you to keep putting the shit out?I have a now 11 year old son.He's 11 now.Shout out Curvelle.He turned 11 July 29th.About two years ago, we was in a car, I believe.He tells me we was on, we were somewhere else.
01:13:41But I was just freestyle just, just bullshit freestyley.Whatever I see in the streets.the blue car on the side of us trying to race.I'm looking at you.You got milk on your face on the way to school.Bullshit like that.And then which motivate him, say,I remember in my memory, son, the way I see it,
01:14:02you were sitting in the passenger seat on top.You know how you got your hands under your thigh.His feet couldn't even reach the floor.His feet was dangling.And I remember after I finished rapping,I hit a few corners.I remember him just like staring off into nowhere.And he looked at me.
01:14:15He was like, you're going to start back rapping?I'm like, nah, man.I'm through.And he was like, that's when I seen him looking off into nowhere with his feet dangling in.And he just hit me out of nowhere.It was like, man, you still got it.It's been on ever since.That's tight.
01:14:31Yeah, 11-year-old.My mom, my son motivated me.My young son got me back in this shit.That's cool.That's tight to hear.Honestly, just because, like, you know, when you're at that age, it's like the idea that you might want to just give up something that you're passionate about.about might seem really foreign to him.Like he doesn't even sort of got to that stage
01:14:53where he can imagine wanting to step away from something you're good at.He has no idea, the courage it took to jump back in it.You know, but I asked their permissionbecause the reason why I initially slowed downand let it let it alone because I'm spotted low.Right.I got three, I got two 11 year oldsand a son that just turned 13 yesterday.
01:15:11Shout out Jr.Shout out Monster 2 since we just talked about the boys.Right.Kermon, Curtis, and Curville.Curtis turned.13 yesterday on September 2nd.And when they were born, it was like, I lead by example.Certain things that I was comfortable just being,
01:15:31I couldn't set that example.So as like two years ago, once I felt like they knew right from wrongand they understood me as their father as the man I was,I just explained to them how well I could be an assholeand how marketable asshole wasand asked their permission to be spotted look again.for business purposes and they gave me their permission i said you might see me doing some thingsthat you know see me do some blue rags might come out and this that and the other right i don't
01:15:57really mean it though they told me it's cool go get the bag that's tight i respect that umi wanted to ask you about this video that's on youtube it's called spider loke brings the paws outoh we there's a mexican dude at a gas station you just look like you fire on this motherfucker so fastSo he started saying something to you and you just,that's why you gotta be careful what you see.That's just crazy.What did he say?What happened?
01:16:23You know that's a gas station surveillance camera.Yeah.So obviously they chose to cut it where they chose.That was evidence in the case against me.Oh, really?And they chose to begin a story right there.The judge name was like Rodriguez.The sheriff that showed up were Ruiz and Gonzalez.
01:16:42Oh, okay.So the deck was stacked against you.Stacked against me.So it's no.It's no wonder that the tape started right there, but to give you some backdrop, I had just finished a 10-day trip in Port of Prince Haiti on a mission trip.I got in town on a red-eye flight.I had just given away everything that I possessed, and I was just in the spiritual highest level I could be realizing that having nothing, I had everything.So I want to let you know I was in great spirits.
01:17:11it was a simple pulled up to get some gasI was going to fill up my niece's car for herso I was going to put up to get some gasand because she picked me up from the airportand the dude, the Spanish guyhe was using the opposite tank for melike on my right-hand side he was using that pumpI'm pulling up on my left side
01:17:35and use this pump and there was plenty of spacefor both of us to access the pumps and do our thingHowever, he came in at such a crooked angle, I couldn't get to the pump.So I'm talking about with no malice, no anger.He jumps out of his car to go pay for his gas.It's like a 30 pump station.He's going to be in there for a minute.I'm like, bro, bro, bro, I can't fit.
01:17:58Happy, no problems.He's like, oh, yes, you can.I'm like, no, he's going to like, ignore me.So I get out prior to what you saw.I get out one time and say, hey, bro, I can't fit.So he like, come on.He goes back and walks back.I'm thinking he's going to go get in his car and straighten up.
01:18:17Instead, he goes, gets in front of my car like, come on, let me guide you in and show you fit.I swear for God, dad, homies on my mama, mama.I get back in my car and try to wiggle through the little narrow thing.I can't fit.I'm like, bro, bro, I can't fit, homie.Right.He's going to fan me off.He's just going to go pay for his gas.
01:18:37So you see it picking up from there.Now I'm getting out like, homie, you're just from the go plate.And he threw his hands up.That might be your setup point.When I seen his hands going up, I'm a swing.Right.And that was that.And then it turned into like, immediately.
01:18:54Every Mexican in the gas station came toward me aggressivelyseeing about what was happening with him.Like what's happening?They didn't even know him.He was in the car with his woman.And they all came.So I'm like, damn.What's happening?
01:19:08I'm looking, no blacks.So I'm like, backpedaling.I see about two or three blacks.I'm like, hey, my nigger, they're trying to jump me.My niggick, they come over and like, that's one-on-one.That's between them.Y'all can't jump them.So now it's kind of like some even interest.
01:19:21I'm like, yeah, homie, let's get down.We can do whatever.So he don't want to fight and none of that.I go to get my car.My keys are missing.I'm like, damn, with my keys.Now it's a black, now it's a black Spanish thing.Everybody in the gas station's interest on that level.
01:19:38It's a black lady, older lady, non-confrontational.She drives past me and say, baby, don't get distracted.She got your keys.She put them back here.So that's why you see me go around, pull her pens down, trying to find my keys.Once I pulled this woman pens down, that motivated him to make her up the keys and give them to me.No, he got them himself.But you also see, it was a parking attendant.
01:20:01An older black man came out the gas station with a little uniform.I thought it was a cop at first.Everybody make that comment.But just think about it.I would have went to jail right there.Right, because you punched the dude so hard right for the security guy.That's when I start really being like, oh, it can't be a cop because he would have arrested you.But dude came out.
01:20:19He was like, he addressed, he was approaching the crowd as if he was an officer.And everybody was like in respecting the uniform.And I'm like in his ear, I say, bro, I know they didn't caught the police.I said he got my keys.I say, I need my kids.My keys.So he started telling him, you can't take his keys.That's a robbery.
01:20:40That's a robbery.So he told him that.The man got nervous and produced my keys.So bam, I'm like, all right, I'm fin to go.When I go to leave, I see my phone, I had a brand new phone.My phone is shattered.So I grabbed my phone, the couple little black dudes that was there with me, I'm like,what happened to my phone?
01:20:58They say he stumped on it.So that's why you see me come back and hit him again.Because he stumped on my phone.Wow. Shout out to whoever them niggas was in the gas station because they jumped on the trunk,tried to dangle their legs and block the, uh, block my license play from me. You know what I'm saying?Everybody did what they did. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't got no problem with no Mexicans,but when I had a problem with this man who happened to be meskin, the other Mexicans came tosupport him. It looked like it was going to be a bad situation.
01:21:27That's an L.A. ass shit right there.Yeah. Oh, mama, mama, mama. The whole gas station becoming a race riot.It's such an L.A.I found it up.I'm ironic that the way that footage hit, the internet was through 50 cent putting it out.Oh, for real?Yeah.It makes you look like a badass though.
01:21:45Why would he put that out?He's being sarcastic.You know, they see me in the Honda Accord.Looks like I'm losing my mind.You know what I'm saying?He's like, I told you this dude being crazy.This is funny look at it.He's laughing at it.
01:21:56You know, because there was a slight chance that the sarcasm could have been just 50 cent.I got in his DM.I hollered at the same person.he got the footage from and everybody I knew that was in contact with him like, you know,this holler. He didn't take no holler. So I took it just how he thought it was. It was trying to befunny. Further than knowing it backfired, it was booming so hard on his page is why he took it down.Right. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? This nigga used to love to tellthe story how when he came to California initially. He was right with the cartoonist, or the tattoo
01:22:28tattoo artist cartoon. He remembered they needed some guys. We got to get him on. And they jog, yeah,Shout out to Cartoon.He said, he remember Dragha Pass 13, 14 gas stations and wondering, why the fuck we didn't just go right there?Then asking Cartoon, like, why didn't go to that gas station or last?He was like, no, L.A. gas stations is violent.Woo-woo.And he used to blow his mind how violent gas station was.So I know he was really interested in that, in that, in that, um, those scene because
01:22:56he was always intrigued about how L.A. gas stations, it could just pop off at any moment.That's real.You go to the gas station and you definitely want to be.making sure it's all boring looking people.You don't want there to be no young dudes when you get out of the gas station, right?Our sense, we know born or young at that moment, which ones to go to because of where theyhad.Right.
01:23:15And that's what a cartoon issue of.I guess it was all enemy gas stations.So he'd be like, damn, we need gas.We had to bus you turn and pass 13 gas stations to get to where it was cool to just jumpout this deep and be here for 15 minutes.Right.Because, you know, you know, we caravan and it's going to be a minute.Yeah.
01:23:29Yeah.That's crazy.Wow.Okay.Thank you for explaining that.I also wanted to ask about, there's a video that says it's called Spider-Loke Ambushes the Game and Snoop at West Coast Peace Conference video.You ask good questions, man, because everybody act like it's clickbait because of the word of ambush.But you didn't upload it.
01:23:46No, not easily.So you didn't call it ambush.Well, so I'm in my media team.But, okay.I do have a YouTube channel, Spider-Loke Most Eastie.Okay.Please subscribe.That was the part that seemed kind of odd is that it didn't really seem like an ambush.
01:23:57It seemed like you just kind of went there and talked to him.I read that question, yeah.Okay.Ambush is indicating I was uninvited.didn't want to.The only person who seemed like you were unwantedwas the guard at the door.Yeah.
01:24:07He was the only one who was really swooped.How long he held me up about two minutes?Yeah, it wasn't even that big deal.Yeah, no big deal.You know, he didn't stop nothing,but the thing about it was that was a West Coast peace conference.Remember, I told you.Right.
01:24:18The nigga told me he was mad at me because it was beefing with game.I wasn't invited.Right.Shout out solo from 11 May.What year is that, maybe 2003?No, I met 50 in 2004.I was an RD unit.Oh, okay.
01:24:30So it was like 05.Okay, 05.So the homie called me, I guess he was leaving or had been there.He's like, cause you ain't coming to this shit?I'm like, what's shit?They're like, everybody up here at the whoop-de-whoop, whoop-y-woo.They're having a conference.I'm like, huh?
01:24:44He's like, yeah, so I go.That's why you see me arriving.I didn't know I was coming in through the back door behind the stage.Right.I'm just coming.I don't know what's going on.So when I got in that door, I was facing the whole crowd and Deldorf from Main Street, Mafia for Life Records, rest in peace.East Side Dog was up in front of the podium talking.
01:25:05So while I walk in, you see this, it's already tensionwith the dude at the door apprehension nervous.I don't know what I'm from the counter.When I walk in, I'm looking in the crowd for comfortable eyes.Del Dog up there talking.I go stand next to Del Dog.Fuck it, I know him.You feel me?
01:25:19And he looked at me.I'm like, cut, give me dad.He got, he had the mic.He was saying this piece.This nigga Snoop Dog, get up on the other mic.Did you have it on you at the peace conference?What's that?It.
01:25:31I don't discuss those types of things.2005 statute of limitations a long time ago.Everybody got damn right.Come on, man, please.I like the fact that this is a peace conference.It was a peace conference.And sometimes peace is gaining through, you know, you know how to go.Through war.
01:25:46But it's just safety.Like, I'm sure the people that were there with Steve Harvey had it on them.Oh, that's a good point.So if they're going to be in a building, why, you know, I don't, I count, I'm going to count myself no tougher than anybody else.So if they're going to be weapons around, I don't have no Teflon's skin.That shit is funny as fuck Wendy, Wendy,Williams is like, I'm here for Spider-Lauke.Appreciate it.
01:26:04Before she had all their work done, you feel me?Oh, my, my-mom.That's funny.It's funny that Steve Harvey was there, too, man.Yeah, Snoop Dog up on the stage,talking about these New York niggas out here fucking our bitches.We got the, yeah, while he's got 50 y'all on his nuts,not knowing what type of thing he was really on.
01:26:20That's what that was all about.So what- What-Wish that footage would pop up?Say you to say that.So what- Say you were crying about the New York niggas coming out here,fucking all the LA bitches, niggas.This type of shit, niggas be on my mom-mom.What was the conversation like between you and Snoop there and everything?I say, my nigga, check this out.
01:26:36I don't know if you know who I am or not, but I was fucking with shit.And you know how that nigga is, man.I want to let you know I said some shit that was, I don't know if you heard it or not, but it was real bad.I don't really feel proud of saying it, my nigga.I don't think it was really right.I said, fuck with 50 now.I just want to get out ahead of it, my nigg.You know, my apologies for letting that niggins me influence me to do that goofy shit.
01:26:57And it was real warm because, you know, he kept it like a man.He was like, cause I ain't trippy.Just keep it crazy.And I'm gonna be good, woo-de-woo.And I thought it was like that.So that's why I thought he was cool.He did the record, I had the record.He shouted me out in the record.
01:27:10And next thing I know, somebody asked him about me an interview,and he was to him, fuck that nigga with that bullshit.Oh, okay.So this was all before that.Yeah, I thought he was cool.So my thing is this.I would have never accepted the apology if you had got about my mama like that.Right.
01:27:27So either he never really accepted apology,or he didn't.He just did some flim-flam booty shit, boo-boo shit, either or.But if I wasn't going to accept the apology, I wouldn't have pretended like I was.Because, you know, if I had violated to that extent, I could have accepted that.You could have just told me that maybe.I don't know what it is.But when he came out, talking about he wasn't fucking with me and G-Unity can't save me
01:27:51because I had a rap beef with a pot root.You know what I'm saying?And this nigga, the same nigga had the whole Uncle Luke situation.the whole, you know, his crew and them was talking aboutfuck BJee knockout and every nigga down with him.Natural boy and killers.That is very reckless.How he's going to tell a next individual
01:28:08how his career is going to transpireor how he's going to relate to another artistwhen every time you hear about two artistsstart to go back and forth in the hip-hop industry,they always say it's healthy for other culture.When I get involved,they start acting like hoes.Right.
01:28:25Now I can't have a battle.Right.Somebody speak up, challenge the chief.I speak back and they want to call a battle with beef.I'm just saying, I don't get it.I was just battling.And then they got scared and they got scared.He ran 50 off, man.
01:28:3950 scared.50 told me he don't squash nothing.It's yo.He was, uh, Doja was calling him a bunch of bitches and police and all that rats and shit.And now I'm having exchange with Dozier and Snoop.Don't fuck with me because of that.And 50th Snoop, they never missed the beat, skip the beat.If you can understand that, you know, I don't know.
01:29:04You feel what's the status of you and BG Knockout?Cudson with the Queerdos.Queerdo.Queerdo.On my mama, mama, on my dad, homies and my daughters and sons, nigga.I drove to Vegas, nigga, and pleaded with BG Knockout,to take these little images of him on these videos with these dog puppy filtersand these squeaky voices and these glasses.
01:29:25and these glasses he used to have on talking like a broad.I was like, huh, this shit ain't cool, my nigga.You drove to Vegas to ask him to stop using Snapchat filters?No, I drove to Vegas, and when I got there, I asked him to.I had other, you know.But that was part of, I was going to see him.I have a record that just came out on, well, EP.A record came out on my latest EP illiterate called, understood.
01:29:49The last line of the first verse is,used to flood the swap me with my CD copies.Niggas Nug is nutty on my blood.like B.G. Naki. Should have said Gigi Gigi Gattis, but it said B.G. Nakis because his timeyou've been in the game and the whole record is like establishing myself as who I am and where I've been.So I was referencing his neighborhood, play on words. He'd get a shout-out. So I had intended to shoot thevideo some time ago. So I was going to get cameos from the people I mentioned here and there.So I was really coming to highlight him to get the video. We shot the shot. I still got the footage
01:30:21of a shooting with the SBI. He looked good in the S-PIT shirt, you feel me, on Crip.But anyway, I thought Cud was the homie.But anyway, I used that trip as an opportunity to let him know.This ain't a good look for your image, bro.He got offended.He told me, he don't care what I think.I said, man, I can't vouch for this.I say, me, I'm talking about the original, the real cop of city G's knockout.
01:30:45That's the thing I can vouch for him.He's like, I ain't looking for no nigga to vouch for me.Fine, all right.I bet you can't find that one of the motherfuckers on this page, though.So you welcome, Crip.So it'sIt's not real beefIt was just a little thing
01:30:58I don't have any beefOkayHeThis is a niggaLook this is the thingA niggaSpent hours and hoursIn the studio with me
01:31:10We gotTons of music togetherWhen I say tonsIt ain't tonsI say about 10 songsAll on my projectsMy studio timeWe was cool
01:31:21He isHe claims a lot ofI think his brothers.That ain't his brother.But he approached youto where you thinkit's his brother initially.So the nigga,
01:31:31when I was once againgoing back and forthwith Doja,the nigga, T.J. Santana,the young hogs,that did a recordwhere he invited meand Doja.
01:31:39Y'all telling us,we need to, y'all,he's like,my brothers, look what y'all started.Somebody's going to be dealingto party.He's telling us we need to stop beefingbecause we're going to be
01:31:49somewhere overseas.It's going to be some bullets flyingand the person who get hurtis not going to beme and him.He's doing a record about this.On the record, he gets to talking at the end.He says, like, man, I can't believe it.
01:31:59I was in L.A. club.I already seen some niggas, walking around the club talking about,G, you on the crib, G, unit, Crip.He said, I can't believe it.He like, Cuddery need to stop.He like, Spider, gang.Y'all both bigger than me.So if y'all see me, y'all want to beat me up.
01:32:13Go ahead.I was going to take him up on that invitation,let him know.And then when I see you, expect that, whatever.B.G. Knockout.beg, pleaded with me, not to do so.That's my brother. That's my brother for the host he did.Gave him a pass.
01:32:29I became aware of the fact that Draster was a pedophile during the blue room days.Draster had spent quite a time in the blue room prior to that.When I stopped allowing him to be there or stop,and not saying I stopped him from coming, when I stopped inviting him.And people were, I was on spotterloak.com back in the days or wherever I was on,they asked me about him.I was candid about the reason why I'm not going to be dealing with him no more.So it would be on the net, Spider said so-and-so about Drayston.
01:32:58I didn't even know that about Dracely at all.He's on Megan's law.BG, knock out, call me, and plead with me to not be discussed.He tried to explain to me how the situation ain't like he was no creep or whatever.It wasn't like that, whatever, whatever.I just explained to him, look, I got young daughters.And I just advise, I would advise them, if they own there, you got to steer away.So I again got time to be a caseworker, my nigga.
01:33:19So I have to disassociate myself because I'm going to tell my daughters,anybody on there ain't no good.So that's all it was with me.But I will stop speaking about it in public.So down years later, we do all these things.One day I looked up scrolling, this thing on 50 cent page,type in a paragraph, happy birthday.I called, Cud, fuck Cuck.
01:33:39What you mean?He's by the fucking.Yeah, nigga, you all on his page, sucking his dick.I thought you with the home.Cah, fuck her.He like, Cah, you know what?I ain't even look at it like that.Cud, you right, you're right.
01:33:48I was just, I don't even know, because.The only thing I know about him is he fucked with you.Yeah, fuck Cud.Like, bam.Year later, he's up to the same shit.You're a queer though.But do you even think, like, do you really expect that of Beegee?You know, I got that you're so close with him
01:34:03that he should give a shit about your beef with 50?I don't have any beef with anyone, sir.Well, your issue.Yeah, I just, you know, that's what, you know what a homeboy is?Yeah.A homie?Yeah.Yeah, okay.
01:34:13You know, he jumped, what was this?Why was he dissing Snoop and Dre?Right.But you got beef with some of the most legendary people in hip-hop,so it's kind of hard to avoid it.Who was Snoop and Dre?Yeah.Right.
01:34:22Well, it's the knockout.I mean, what business of that was his?Yeah.We know how this shit go.We had did tons of records together.The texture of our music is aggressive.We had already been in my studio on tape,clowning another nigga for getting knocked out.
01:34:37Like, I'm not for sitting in my studio on troll with youon some gangster shit or some manly shit on some street shit.And then it's just protocol.This is what it is.Me being ignorant, expected a lot more out of a whole lot of niggisthat wore khakis and T-Cats.shirt on me and was from legendary neighborhoods.I thought y'all understood.
01:34:57I was the last one to figure out.This was a game, a goofy niggins pretending.I showed up to the water gun, paint gun shoot outwith the real gun.I didn't know it.My bad.It just took me a while to figure it out.Do you think DG Knockout in that case, though,
01:35:11is really just giving 50 love as a fan?Yes.But there's a line there.It's like we're all like, we look at, you know,I can't look at Snoop as just a dude.Oh, get him as a fan.I was a fucking fan of the music.It's like, once you're a,
01:35:22you really are in the game as all of a sudden becomes kind of hard.Like for you, you're never going to be able to just look at 50 objectively as his musicbecause you know what shit.I don't know, you got me.But it's hard to separate.Bro, let me tell you something.I love that song.21 questions.
01:35:36So, biting to your peach and it's dozer.You know, when they come on, this is late to sing what I was on the radio like last year?Oh, really?Yeah, like, I mean, it's like, what are you talking to singing to the little broad about, you know?50 got new shit?All right.I'm saying, I'm telling you about I don't have to like you to say I like you to say I likeyour music. So I'm telling you what I like from someone that I don't like. I haven't heard
01:35:58nothing from, 50 is outright whack. But he's not even known for his music anymore, right?You brought up his music. So you asked me about my opinion of it and if I was not gonna,I'm just saying, if I don't, I'm not gonna say because I don't like him, his music is what.Right. Just because you have an opponent, you don't have to downgrade their abilities.Right. I feel like the more worthy the opponent, the greater their success when you,outdo accomplished or the more of a challenge that you are willing to take on i don't have todowngrade anybody in order to establish my issue you could be the greatest rapper in the world andstill be a piece of shit 50 you do you tell me a dope 50 line i mean it's been a while it's thank you
01:36:42but he still he still records he still has records right but tell me the dope one that's from back thenthat you really appreciated it from an mc standpoint yeah he put me on the spot man i was justI was really into the whole mixtape era before his albums even started coming out, to be honest.I like the first two albums, but the mixtape stuff was really good.We like the albums.Yeah, we like the albums are cool about.You asked about...I liked him when he was on over with all the soul beats and shit on them tapes.
01:37:03When he was trying to rap like Jay-Z.You know, that's when I was really going for 50, to be honest.I mean, you know, I was going for him when he was going for me.Right.Real talk.My mom.I got one more name I want to ask you about my boy Bosco.Bosco.
01:37:20Yeah.Boscoe, no honey.The Instagram modelwho feels like nobody is cuter than him.He does like looking at himself in the camera.Oh, man, everybody's ugly.He's the only cute motherfucker.That for some reason, just had to get my attention
01:37:36and speak on my hair.Yeah, you guys have been going out a little bit, huh?No, I mean, just to think about itis I have no interest in doing nothingthat has anything to do with dude.Dude went out of his way.First of all, to speak on the sides of my blunts.I figured it was a cordial
01:37:50I'm watchingSo I laughed that one offHa ha ha haCame on my little liveWith a big bluntI'm likeI got youWe smoke it big now
01:38:01Whatever whateverDid a little dealWith Cleopatch recordsI spent my first little moneyOn a nice littleYou know weed's kind of cheap out hereSo some smoked someBut I posted a picture
01:38:10A big bag of weedAdded himCome through my niggaWe're on now smokeHe liked the pictureI'm thinking we're cordialNext thingHe comes out
01:38:18discussing my appearance.First of all,because,oh, my, my mom, I don't understand that.I don't understand no maninterested in what no other man look like.Right.And they're approaching me.
01:38:34What I think,your theme is supposed to be,unlock, you're on the yard,politica.Just in general, in respect.I know you'd be a clown or whatever,but we're on a yard.Leave a crypt alone.
01:38:45You're going to shoot a joke.When we're kind of cool,we cool.But it's going to be a little.I don't respect.When you start calling yourself talking down or disrespecting me, that's something different.But I don't engage in joky joke, but I joky joked with him.My hair short, my dick long.
01:39:00I want to fuck your mama.Your mama's thick.You know what I'm saying?You start discussing my career and all that.Then we can talk about the other things I've seen about you.You got only nigg I know famous from running from my ass whooping and getting your asswhoop, swole up.And then I'm going to tell you how desperate he was for my eyes.
01:39:18attention. Over 10 years ago, right from my studio, going live and on a number of interviews,my artists used to go back and forth, rest in peace, payback with Bosco, no hunting. I used to be inthe same room. I would never engage, never said nothing negative about him, never even acknowledged,I watched it, had it happened or nothing. And here it is 15 years later, 10 years later, whateverit is, that's how he chose to address me. It's cool.I remember he used to go back and forth like a bitch with payback.All you got to do is put big payback and Bosco, no honey,in a YouTube search and you'll get to see what I'm talking about.
01:39:58Do you, is it hard for you to deal with the fact that there's so many people who are in therap world and are really just kind of trolling and having fun.Like, you know, even Bosco, you could compare that to what 50 does,but 50 just loves just getting messy on Instagram and just talking about everybody's business and shit.Is that kind of hard for you to accept that that's just a thing now?Not at all.I'm glad that I have issues.with a couple of the troders.
01:40:20I was the original trodler.I was doing this before 50 even knew what the computer was.50 used to look over my shoulder and be like,Spider, you're talking to your fans right now?I'm like, yeah.You're like, you're lying, B, that's ill.Hey, y'all, check it out, check it out.Spider's live.
01:40:35He's on the computer, talk to his friends right now.He wanted to get Soldier Boy to credit.You know, I showed you this shit, Curtis.Oh, my mama, mama, nigger.Spotterloak.com.I love the Internet because everything is dated.Right.All hip hop know
01:40:51The West Coast ridersThose sites they knowPeople knowThat was my waveI give him the credit for what he introduced me toFor some reasonYou know he makesMy presence a lot larger
01:41:05Because he speaks about everything he went throughEverything he encounteredThere's very little conversation hereWhen you speak about thisYou have to talk about how bad you fumbledHe was blessed to experience what it isthe story that the creator is writing in my life.Right.
01:41:22This is the special shit coming over here.I've never been a 50 cent fan per se,but I can tell you that within moments of him hearing me do what I do,he offered me everything that you saw me go through it.Right.I blew his mind.You can never go through his whole life, whole careerand see him ever reacted to anything in that fashion before.
01:41:41He's very selective.Right.Yeah.That's what's up.So anything you want to,to promote that you've got going on right now?The EC as a single, you got to go tap into that.It's some of the hottest shit out.
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01:42:34I appreciate the interview, man.It was definitely.I appreciate the opening the doors.Yeah, yeah.I just feel like people definitely are going to be excited for it for sure.So it feels good to feed them what they need, you know?Yes, sir.A good content.
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