No Jumper - The Adam & Wack Show #20 featuring Hit-Boy & Big Hit

Episode Date: January 8, 2024

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White guy. Nice hat. Did you wear that for me? Oh, shit. So you claim Palace merchandise as well? No, that's P-Fone. Oh, okay. Carl Rooke Kloombe, you know, we two-ten, baby, so Pasadena.

So what kind of history do you guys have? I met the homie over the phone when he first come home. It's my first time meeting in person. Okay. But, you know, his reputation speaks for itself. You know, when you got certain homies that, and did a lot of time and did the type of time he did

they keep the doors open for the homies to come behind them you know what I'm saying it's like an old saying from back in the days there's dudes and deaths to those before us we must remain the strongest soldiers for the ones to follow the missions to move forward to get there

and he's not to know how far to go and when certain homies is in there he's the type of homie that He went in there to do his time But whatever that date was If he made it to it he made it to it He was going to, he wasn't factoring in I'm trying to make this date

So this ain't going to happen So when I look up on my phone And I got like crips That I've been knowing for decades Texted me saying Yo Your man Chansy He wanted him

I ain't even asking I ain't doing no resume check on the homie Out of respect This is the homie father And all the PDLs I know is like hey that's the big homie but when this is just voluntarily

texting me these things and naming spots and locations and events and it's like you know because a lot of homies that didn't walk that type of walk and I can't even claim to walk that type of walk because I didn't do the type of time the homie did

the homie got damn their double plus in collectively right and that's just feds in state ain't no telling how much wide time you might have did, right? So, you know, I got like a dime overall, but he didn't been to both feds in CDC, right? So wherever he's went, it's always been the same story.

You know what I'm saying? They say he's a storm. You know, you're going to know you're on the yard. So, you know, when you're dealing with that and seeing him come home the way he came home to nephew, you know what I'm saying? And I got this saying, If your son is named after you, your little or baby a tiny, when it comes to some games,

I'm going to look at you a little different because coming from our era, we know what we went through, and we don't want none of that shit. We don't want to even envision our son in a mucus chain or on a cage or being stripped down or zip tied on a yard because of a rod because of the color of his skin. So me, nephew, right? and I didn't know nothing about his dad at the time when we met, right? Yeah, right. So just me, nephew, his energy was so good because I raised my son the same way.

Be honorable, be respectful, but be a man, but you ain't got to be part of this shit. So when the first time you put me on the phone with pops and I'm talking to him, right? When he touched him. Yeah, yeah, when I'm talking to him, right, I hear it. I hear the language. I hear the pain. I hear the struggle and I hear his gangster, right? And then to sit back and watch him.

I watch him every day on the internet. I went to sit back and see what he doing and watching him and hear what his goals are. You know, hear what he want to do, right? And see his work ethic in the, and know that his baby boy was here and able to open some doors when he come home and to see y'all bond.

Because a lot of fathers and sons get into it. Oh, yeah. They come home and the son be like, man. I'm niz and he's like, look, little nigger, let me holl at you, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, uh,

me in my DM every day. Like, man, listen, bro, you make me want to hit my pops. We ain't been cool. No, this real shit. So the city and watch it. More than the music. And you know, you got to remember. I laugh about it.

Right? Because the homie be doing. That's that area. Like the other day. This is in the living room. Oh, God. Programmed. This is programming in the liver room,

doing the clap for a show. Oh, God. But he watched. he's watching his video on the big screen, right? So what he didn't did was he's a big inspiration to n'n'r, behind the walls. And not only y'all two, right, the way y'all father's son is,

bro, to see you moving around, no bro on the flow at the game in New York, just to see this as a, you know, coming from where I'm from, because my first five years, I don't know about you, bro, my son first five years his life, I was gone and all the gangst shit

I was doing in the joint I still felt like a because I wasn't there. You know what I'm saying? I missed his first steps. Like I wasn't there. Like I caught home and he didn't in the back and I couldn't do nothing.

And a lot of that took out on the way, pal or just took out on the if I was one of them days, right? So my question to you is like, bro, you did a lot of time. Right? What made you say this time when I come home, I'm a locking with my baby boy,

Locking with my son. Because I knew you had goals. You wanted to chase on the rap. And he was, you know, he's the top, he won our top producers right now just in the game, right? He's the only one. He'll tell you, because I got a reputation when it comes time to doing business.

Like, because, you know, I pay all my bills independent. That's what I call and tell you, what you want? Wow, we ran it up for sure. I said, what you want, Neff? You gave me a number. I ran it. You know, I still be handling that business like our old business. Like, hold on.

I'm not fit to pay you that. I'm going to give you this. But when it comes to NEP, I was glad to pay him. You did a lot of work on games last album. Like, I was glad to pay him. What you want? I paid you first. You got paid first out of anybody.

Right? So how did it feel, bro? They, like, come home and see your son locked in. and be able to fall in line to be able to chase your dreams through something he was already doing. I mean, it's a blessing, bro. I just got burnt out. I'm on everything.

My niggily, like, the politics, the whole. And I just told myself, I'm going to isolate myself. And around this, you know what I'm saying? My grandson, my son, my son, my daughter. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that booth. That's my cell now. I don't got no urge to go out and Trick and do all this you know what I'm saying you got 100 songs in eight months no literally When I'm sitting up like this money like like a pile of money then I can have fun When I can't count it when I can spend my money and I can't count it my

Then I can go have fun I'm me other than that I'm going to be out there trying to get it so I'm gonna stay in the booth till I get it blood on me no that's real shit so my question for you is is this something like like reinvigorating your dad's career and like you know really pushing him as an artist

would you say that that was something that you always wanted to do or you kind of thought about or was it something where you just recognized that he had like a really unique talent yeah nah man he uh he came home around a time when I really start even doing beats, which was when I was like 17 type, you know what I mean? Like 16, 17. Like for the time I was three, though. Got you.

You got locked up when I was three and got out around, you know, when I was like 17. Just like we always talked about the shit, even them times. Like we worked on music back then just doing ideas. I obviously was early in my career, so I couldn't really make no real moves. So we one time we went to a, we both paid to go to a conference in Vegas. This is like, what, year 2001, 2002, something like that? I was like 2005. Oh, yeah, it was, oh, God.

Yeah, but, like, we ended up at that together, like, trying to do music, you know what I mean? So we just always had this, like, you know, a lot of people might think, like, oh, his hit boy, he just got on. He just throwing his dad in the game. But we've been literally talking about this shit as I was young. Right. Yeah. Because, I mean, very few times have I even seen somebody attempt what you guys are doing, which even outside of, like, the fact that it's, like, like a son kind of putting his dad on.

Like, I've never seen a younger rap personality be able to put on an OG. It just very rarely works out like that. And I've seen quite a few people try it. Like, I remember when 50 tried to put on MOP and Mob Deep back in the day. And I never felt like that really worked. Like, his fans were younger. They didn't want to listen to somebody who was 10 years older than them or whatever. And, like, for you to be able to, like, recognize his talent.

But I also just wonder, like, if it's the quality of your beats that are, kind of carrying a lot of this stuff. But I also do feel like you have like a very unique flow. I feel like he inspiring me. He made him, like I said, he got four hundred songs since he touched down. So, you know, I'm a workhorse myself and that's something even, you know, because we didn't get to spend that much time on the street. So I'm learning about myself just being around him.

And it's like, oh, his work ethic, that's why I be locked in. That's why I ask me why I'm always in the studio. It's like that is just in us. I'm going to tell you why. And I'm taking nothing away from that few beats. Because just one thing. He has the hunger of a dude who's just locked up for Mad Lone. And like for you, you might be kind of at the point in your career

where you could be getting complacent, right? But like now you're kind of like feeling the hunger from him and it's forcing you to go harder? No, for sure, man. We both got the same passion, same dreams, same goals. So it's like we're just running the race together. I'm going to tell you why it's not just the beats. When I look up on TikTok and I see little white kids walking past a mirror

and making frown in their face and talking about I bang on myself when I get text messages like this from New York I don't want you to think I'm capping bro

this is New York this is from New York and they be battling with me about hip hop and gayster rap this is Monday hit what do he say Big hit my favorite

right now I'm telling you, big, bro. My man Zee from New York. From New York. It's not out of nowhere since me this with your. So was that clip of you doing the bang song? Was that like totally organic that that ended up becoming like a viral thing? Completely, bro.

He don't even know about far around. You got to understand like he don't give a fuck about this. Like this is raw uncut. Like he's not analyzing looking at the game. He's just going. You know what I mean? He only didn't even know who little Uzi was, bro. He don't know.

When he got out, he told him who Uzi was. I set a bar in the song we did, and I said, Pops got a little Uzi. I just want to rock. He said, why you call the Uzi Lou? I'm like, it's a rapper name. I said it's a ball.

When he said that bar, it took me back. Yeah. Because I don't get fucking where you from, right? When I was throwing on them cacks and them chucks, and we was creasing them flags, and we went, right? and got in front of that mirror

everybody gave it up you gave it up to yourself like yeah everybody gave it up so when he said that I said oh you took me back to the OG remember the mirrors with the gold little designs grandma

had and they piece them together we all did that that's hard like most of why people resonated with that shit that's real shit you know that's really like when he said it didn't the bar with you

I said I break through myself so much Bag, bad, bad God It's not you're sucking on walls It's nuts, blood, like But where you get it from? God damn Where you get it from?

That's me, right? Yeah. Be getting into it all type You know, it's nothing but love, but you know, it's just family. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he'll be like, remind me and me right now.

But, you know, I'm the opposite, though. I'm like the cool. come like him these two right here is the same person like they they're gonna say whatever they're gonna wild out turn up but hit boy to me is like how Nick Cannon is to me

to all of us if you got a problem with hit boy you're the problem because he's like knighted yeah because he don't walk with nobody he don't do no bad business so if you got a problem with hit you're the problem

you're kind of like the opposite side of that coin. What you mean? Somebody will like, tell me something to about you and I'll be like, yeah, man, I don't know, he's crazy. I don't know, man. This is what it is.

You then took a wide baby. I just assume it's true. You then took a wide baby, a juvenile delinquent, a penitentiary. Right? Who got rich legally, right? Who ain't cut,

who ain't never been high, never been drunk, who ain't got no smut, no roll-ups. Ain't none of that never happened. right and you didn't put me on the platform where I could just speak my truth I don't give I appreciate your perspective 100% just to make that clear other mother's thinking and don't want to say it's just gonna be what it's gonna be I come from an error where my my tribe was out number

five to one so you had to be half crazy to be what the we was representing anyway okay so here's my question behind the walls what's the opinion of whack 100 Behind the walls? Yeah. Blood like damn near the almost like shook. Yo. I don't know if he wants that reputation. No, no.

You can't, listen, regards to that, you can't, nigga can't take away from what he did. He did a whole lot. He kicked in the doors, made a lot of this independent game available. He took 30 cents, where niggas was getting paid 30 cents, to 30% I never forget me and Jay Roth

my carlis were living together when I paroled and I seen one of their royalty checks come in and them niggas was literally splitting up 30 $0.30, nigga, from the $15.

Yeah. Right? Shug is one of the niggas that went into them bills and like, nah, we ain't going for this. We signed the artists directed us and this is what we want. Yeah.

And from that, I've never done a deal less than 50%. right so you can't take that from him that's something you can't take from no man i don't give what's going on you got to give credit what credits do with anybody that's why when i see nephew and i see the homie right because listen i'm gonna be real right now he just won away he got the kids on ticot doing his shit somebody's little young little rapper mumble rappers they can't even get the kids on ticot to do their shit you know what i'm saying you got motherfuckers on Clubhouse

reciting his bars I go to a room it's a whole listening session on his music What was that like for you to like be reading through thousands of comments

of people having super strong reactions to just a chunk of one of your songs I mean I'm still tripping on it It's cool I mean

It's cool I'm not really y'all feel like that He don't know Adam I don't think he He doesn't know I understand, bro, how hard.

Yeah. How long you've been home, bro? Amen. Adam, you know this. Because he was just, how long does some of these motherfuckers be out here working before people even know their name? Right. Well, I mean, you guys are doing, like, the hardest thing, which is to get people to pay

attention to an artist who's older. It's very easy to get somebody to pay attention to some 17-year-old kid with a Draco. But in terms of getting people to pay attention to, like, real rappers. that's kind of like a theme in your career at this point too because like you're often credited with breathing new life into naz and obviously naws would probably be able to shine with almost any producer but the fact that you and him have become this like duo is kind of insane to a lot of people that shit definitely gave me the energy to just you know parlay the shit right into what

i'm doing with pops like working with somebody around the same age group it's like i'm already locked in i just did six albums with nis so it's like all the knowledge i gained from that boom we just go on we don't run with it Got you, man, how many wraps have you done that you wrote on that yellow paper? Or have you came home and just scrapped that and just did something different, or was it a few of them you just had to do? I did about shit. I bought 100 of them that was written.

But just I go back and forth. I go on my feeling, you know what I'm saying? I tried to just, at first I was just trying to just get it all. the paper on on the record no audio so I was just doing any any YouTube beat got you want to just waste this beats I want him yeah whatever and then you know then something I guess getting inspired and just go off the top of the head and just go you know some shit don't fit you know if Acapella a lot of that shit I wrote Acapella don't come out right on the on the beach yeah that's what people ain't understanding like I

You know, a lot of people, you know, hit me and be critiquing, like, man, your, your pop's got to slow down on the beat or whatever the case is. Like, just, you know, rarely I see somebody say some shit like that. But it's like, he wasn't writing the beats for, you know what I mean, however many years, he was writing an a cappella. So the shit flowing. But then it's like, we really literally verse for verse song for song, we just putting these shit together. When he first came home, he's like, like I said, we're just piecing it up. He'd take a rap from here, hook from here. Like, we just piecing the shit up making it work.

hit and I know he could do it because I see Cass do it that ain't got 2% of his experiences we need one of them first day outs and let him go and talk that shit about his real life let him listen to that meat meal joint

that Tee grizzly joint like them first day out joints and let him go that's what we need because he gonna go It's too real. It's like, like I said, I ain't due the time the homie then did. Right?

And I know the thoughts I got in the shit I didn't live. You know, and he'll tell you, you know, we could be driving down the highway and we could see that shit right through the windshield. We could see the whole yard. We can see the solid board. We can see how it happened in the shower. We can literally see it, right?

Because it was so much of it. So when you put him in that, box to do one of them first day out joints where he could just go for sure and just let him go we need to hear one of them we need to hear one of them bro

we don't lock it in we got a lot of shit you're familiar with T. Gersby join right uh yeah let him hear it let him hear it let him let him hear that meek meal got a got a one nigga them two songs playing the clubs right now these shit's come on the clubs the club the whole club I already know that's the moment's

and premier moments in the spot. We need that because we got to do shit, bro. That's why niggas got to really check out the album, though, bro. Like, it's all his handwriting this shit. We did the magazine to go with it. You can get the album through the magazine through this shit. We put a three-song EP in the magazine. That's exclusive to the mag.

So when you order the magazine, you hit the- And so you have to buy the physical CD or the digital download? It's not on streaming services. Right, exactly. Yeah, it did that, you know, just to, this is for this is day-bue album like we always got to that point where we had the momentum some energy and then he got locked back up so this was like nigger we're gonna go full flares like i'm funding all this shit i'm using my bread i'm using

my producer money my you know what i mean just to like push our movement forward and you know i see the shit working i see people tapping in they from the youtube comments everything dms niggas like man i lost my pops or you know i want to get back cool with my pops now because of this shit so you know what i mean it's just bigger than just the music man the knife is kind of like your logo, huh? Nah, but you see, you gotta remember. That's from the back of the feed. Look.

That's what I was saying. I've seen that back on fit clip. He fucking flashes his waistband and he got a little knife sticking out. That knife right there, that's real shit. Like that ain't, yo, that's a motherfucking AR-15. Like, literally, this thing was walking around the crib. Like, man, with the joint on, like,

that shit was wild the first couple days just for me. Like, he had just braced. break into a story 6 a.m. 7 a.m. Like talking about shit like he's still on the yard. And for me, like hearing about a motherfucker having to fight 10 niggas off, a nigga trying to stab him and stabbing him. Actually getting stabbed this shit.

That shit is wild to hear, man. Like for a nigga that's in the studio damn there every day for the show. Yeah, so like is that just keeping the knife on you, just like a comfort thing that you feel more comfortable, not letting that go even though you're free-knit? Yeah, I just, I don't know. It just felt naked. Oh, yeah, it worked.

You're scanning the QR codes? Oh, okay, yeah, here you go. You get the album, the full album on the front. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get the three songs join on the scan here. Oh, this is create. Who put all this together? Man, us, bro.

Literally, we got a team, got our nucleus, bro, and we're pushing. It's creative. Pushing, man, like all ideas, everything is going into this movement right now, man. My best beats, my best ideas, my bread, like I said, it's just, every day.

And like I said, but I told you, I call whack how fucking early this morning. I'm trying to see if Pops got locked back up this morning. Is that real? I got like a real,

it's like the psyche. You know, we good? Why do you thought he got like that? So like, basically, my little sister hit me this morning. It's like, you heard from Pops. I'm like, nah. So,

another one of my homies hit me and was like, yo, uh, some, this nigga hit me hit me talk about the, hit me ASAP.

It's about big hit. So I'm thinking some shit that went down, you know what I mean? Long story short, I had a home week. Exactly. I hit whack hit me. Send me the address. Yeah. And I was like, nigga, we're trying to find pops right now.

I'm like, can you look up in the system? We're like, man, I'm going to have my lawyer look this shit up right now. So I hit the whole LA County system. We called the hospitals in Pasadena, nigga. We were owning, how old me? So basically had to do some find my iPhone shit, seeing where his phone was at. I told you what I told you what I thought he had got sent up. I said,

Nick, it was a lonely than my nigga, for sure. I'm out there with my son and everything, but we end up going to where the iPhone shit was. Then we seen his car. His car just parked. I'm like,

listen, bro, I'm thinking these little joints that set him up. They didn't drop this car off in North Hollywood and shit. We out there just like, we can't even leave because if somebody come out to get in the car, we're going to know who, you know what I mean,

whatever happened. This nigga FaceTime in, like maybe 20 minutes into us being in North Hollywood. He was having and I'm like, bro, we're supposed to be at, you know what? That nigga told me you think it got me hot as a motherfucker white. What were you doing? Nah.

I hear this phone in the fucking So she, so he couldn't need microwave and shit. We was all the whole team blow my heart. I think I had my manager. I had the homies. I had everybody up in North Hollywood looking for me. Oh God.

You putting it down like that. They're trying to lock you in there? Yeah. Damn. They was fighting, man What the fuck? Yeah, that was a long morning But I'm gonna be real with you, though, bro.

Wherever you're gonna Pissed up, you gotta let Neff know, bro. Because the nigger needs somewhere to start. You feel me? Nigger needs somewhere to start, bro. So, nigga, we called AT&T. They said that his last call was at 106 a.m.

And then the homie said that somebody else called him at 1.000. 12 and was like, so I'm thinking the worst. I'm like, God damn, but you know what I mean? He wasn't in the hospitals. He wasn't in jail. So I'm like, shit. We had all the, the sub-stations and past the theater. I'm saying, I really like still, like, I'm like,

I'm like, that's a real fear of mine, you know what I mean? He only been all made much. Right. We, the interviews, we, we doing it all just to keep him busy. But yeah, what is your confidence in him behaving himself versus him doing some wild-ass shit? I mean, this time is like, he's doing this shit.

He's locked in. He'd be at the stool. He had the stew every day. He still be making his little moves and shit, but he makes sure he end up at the stew, and he'd do what he's do. Like, you know, he attracted mad talent to the studio, gang of West Coast,

niggas we fuck with, Killer Twan, Jay Worthy. You know, he got full albums with all these niggas. RJ, like, not an album featuring all them. He got full albums with each of these artists in the last eight months, bro. Like, he just, she and he inspiring us.

You know how funny, niggas act. Oh, for sure. So for niggas of all. Lock in what you like that. They fucking with you. Shout out the K-boy, the ambient shit. Yeah, you know. Yeah, RJ, that's a nephew good nigga.

Mazzie, that's one of my favorites. Snoop on the album, like, just everybody tapping in, man, showing love and shit, so. You know I love to see him do something with? Who that? Cube. I swear, yeah, that'd be hard. When's the last time Q'd put out a song?

Cube always worked. He put out a song with two short a few years ago. Cube! I was fucking with that shit. We need to make that happen. Top pan. Yeah, I love to see that. So look, man, your last joke, they tell him you did what, six, seven?

Nine. Nine, the last one? Time before that. Feds, you did 15? 15. You got like 24. And they said the last one, you come home on a pill. You did three seconds.

You got some time knocked off, right? Yeah, I did a couple three-year joints, too. Oh, in between. Yeah. So all in all how much time he really got down. 30 30 and I'm 36

so like you know what I mean I only had this little six years of time with you're in 36 years or like really getting to just feel the energy like you know what I mean I have like a pops

you know what I mean in my life type shit but I know what he mean about like when you sit back because half of that 30 I mean I'd have probably out of that 30

at least 30% of that 30 9 of them years he caught that time. Pretty sure you didn't caught some time in there. While you were in there. Yeah, knives, sticking, fights. Shit, you lose time.

You'd be telling me how long he was in the hole for. Now, the first time I did like nine years in the hole. And off the 15, I did nine years in the shoe. Couldn't make it out. You got to stay clean. 18 months. I could never make it. But see, now you got to understand, right?

the shoe is a prison within the prison right and if you don't refocus your mind because you'll get to a point we get in there

and we get all our little shit we get to survive make our little chestboard we do all all this shit we need our little fish lines we get our little program going right our little water bags you got our shit going

so when you become comfortable with being in the prison within the prison and you fuck around and parole with that mentality, you don't give a fuck about going back to the regular prison. Because he on, this ain't no 23 and 1. He owned 72 and 1.

He slammed down three days straight, and they might let him go to the yard hour. And part of that hour is getting cuffed up, escorted out, uncuffed, and then cuffed up again. So you might get, what, 40 minutes on that motherfucker yard when he slammed down? So mentally, a lot of motherfuckers go crazy. A lot of motherfuckers lose it.

You know what I'm saying? They turn into J-Cats. Don't take it hot meds and shit. You said, why? He's going to suicide. Yeah. Your Nick's been suicide and all that. It'll break you.

How did you hold it together for doing nine years like that? Just writing songs, working out. You know what I'm saying? banging. One week. Staying. Staying active.

Like, you know, just I didn't have no time to be bored. Niggas just into too much bullshit. Shit always. It's like spin the cycle. My niggily, should never stop. You know, you numb yourself to holidays. You numb yourself to your kids' birthday. You numb yourself to all of that.

We remove that. We don't even... The only thing make us think about that is the fool going to be a little better that day. Other than that, you know, a whole motherfucker here being in spite. before we think about it. We don't even do the calendar on the month.

We might do it on the quarter every six months. We don't even pay attention to it no more. Because you hear the situations he was in, my homie big favor, man, insane hit me. Send me a whole book on this thing. This other day, he's like, man, a nigga Chomsy. I was in the fed with him. I was here. I was here.

Texas Syndicate, they tried to put a hit on him. He slaughtered about six-sub-n-n-niggins in the child haul. This other nigga tried to stab him. up in the lodger room. He took his knife. It hit him. He was over here. He said everywhere he went. And I'm reading. This is a crisp. I'm reed. I ain't asking for this shit. You were saying you were stripping, strutping all the crips up. I'm reading. Yeah, I'm reading all this shit. And I'm telling myself, like, bro, he really a success story. You know what I'm saying? He really a success story. And anybody that could do

something for him to help support, anybody I know, whatever is. Like, do that. Because They counted me out. They really counted him out. He was considered a motherfucker career criminal. You're going to die this motherfucker, or you're going to get out, get killed, or you're going to come back with life. It's real shit.

So for him to be able to travel the world, like, bro, when I see this shit, what I see him, I be like, yeah, that's right, because I mention me. When Game Life said, nigga, let's go. When Ray J gave me my first shot and said, you know, when I was running, with Shug, we was on bullshit.

I never did no music business with Shug. My first music business come with Ray J. When he said, nigga, I'm gonna give you a shot. From that come sexy, can I? Right? Then Game let me in. Game, the first one, took me over that water. I didn't been over the country with him seven, eight times, right?

So, when I land in London and Amsterdam and Dubai and fucking Rome and Italy, and I'm seeing this shit, it changed my whole outland. look on what I was chasing. And then you get the fucker with certain cats.

You know, and I was trying to keep Yeh right. Me and Yeh, we're a, nigga, we, Elon Musk sent the Jack come get us. That's nuts. You understand what I'm saying? We go to SpaceX and I'm looking at this nigga start rockets from his cell phone. I'm seeing this shit. I'm thinking at the time, bro, I'm up.

I'm up. Now I'm up five, me and six, seven men. I'm a shit. You get around these motherfuckers in Dubai and over here, these cats. You walking in a palace where the nigger floors is gold and the toilets is platinum. And you like, let me get to this.

Where have you actually been and like, what have you gotten to see since you got out? That really stands out to you. Shit. Arizona. Now, you've been in New York? Yeah, yeah, New York. That's a big deal.

New York was a big deal to be. But I got out to Joy. Because it ain't nowhere in the United States like New York. York. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I see you in New York. No, we didn't want to be in a couple times.

I thought he's like out of the country. I ain't been able to go. He ain't, you probably never had a passport. Yeah, that's why I was running. They're not going to lay you up. He didn't get one. I went to Mexico last time.

I got out. On this side. Yeah. Now, let me tell you what's fucked up about Mexico on our side. You're supposed to need the passport to go into Mexico. Right.

But if you notice, they don't passport you coming to Mexico. You know why? When they passports you, It's notify our embassy, your citizen is here. So when they don't passports you, there's no record of your motherfucking ass being there. So if it gets weird, if it gets weird, yeah. Now, coming out of there, they ask you for it, right?

But you got your basic idea that'll let you through. And I tell people this shit, you know, whenever I go to another country, I checks in with our embassy. Yeah. Yeah, we let them know your city. Because if a nigga like jurors, he didn't want to jail. You know, we'd be on tour. These niggas go to jail. I go to the embassy, y'all.

I got somebody in jail. They give me an attorney. They go get them. They may give me 24 hours to get them out the country, and all I do, whatever the next country we're going to, I get them to them on tour. So, you got to know how to move. You see some of these artists get over there

and get caught up. Get caught up, for sure. Because they ain't understanding what you're not in the United States. You go to Dubai, get caught with a roach. Nick, you're lying to be there five, ten years. Yeah, that's right. They ain't playing, nigga, they are not playing. Right.

They got facial, you know, they need a passport coming through there. They got facial recognition, everything. They know where you're going, where you're staying, where you didn't book. But it's a big deal with something, bro, need to see. You know what I'm saying? There's no doubt they're going to see it and get to it. And that's been my goal is to create a business outside the music business that requires me to be out of the country at least four to six months out of the year.

I mean, because let's be real. what over here we ain't saw. Yeah. We could get back to this. Ah, you just spent 30 days. You and your wife. Y'all was in what Italy and some shit like that. Right?

Total different vibe, right? Wow, that's amazing, yeah. Now, you know what it felt like? You better just walk down the street and not have to worry about it. Straight up. And you're looking up and far as how I can see. We think New York is something.

It's like New York on steroids. Be able to talk to people. And I say this respectfully. And be to understand how Mexicans feel. because they don't understand nothing you're saying and you sitting here trying to find the word

to get them to understand I'm asking the motherfucker for five minutes with a bathroom at they don't use bathroom they use toilet bathroom they're like I'm like

you know I gotta take a piss they're like oh toilet toilet that you look up for real like certain shit they speak real proper they ain't figuring nothing out they're sorting it out we're going to sort

You know, sort it out. Right? So it's like, you know, shout out the game, because game, the one exposed me to that. Like, he's the one. And no matter what I do, I just sign some big contracts, you know, overseas with the diaper situation,

no matter what I do, bro, always go get some of that. Because it's him opening my eyes and me being able to meet people. And don't meet. No, that access. Don't be scared to do that. It's everything.

You know that gift we got that we know out, that we see somebody, we holler. Bro, 50% of my business came from me just run across somebody Hey man what's up what does it you do and exchange in numbers and me running across something and like oh I got somebody to do that

because people generally want to do shit for us when they know we come from where we come from they're curious about us they like to talk to us because they watch movies and they read books about cats like us so bro everybody in all know

he's an ex-con he's a street niggies a gang member. They intrigued by you, bro, and this shit you're doing with your music, like, you're in the industry now. Your son is your son, but you're in the industry. When you were locked up, did you know that this was going to be like what you did when you got out, or did it kind of become clear to you after the fact? No, this is it. This is my focus. For real, this is it. If it wasn't this, is, man, full speed of head. I'll be having to, like, tell him every day, bro.

And it's crazy because he didn't see Bray, like ESPN licensed one of his songs. Before it was even on DS, still ain't even on DSPs. But, like, he had some, like, Amazon license shit, like, was on a billboard with Amazon in New York Times Square. But it's like, he still got that itch. Like, you know what I mean? This nigga calling me. I got this. I got this.

I'm like, bro, let's just go to the studio, my nigga. I'm telling you. Slow and steady when the race, bro. I'm gonna tell you some real shit. When I came home, and I take the credit for this and I stand on it, I kicked off the whole truck driving for convicts movement. I did that, right? I come on with 99.

Everybody trying to throw me everything. I got to 1995 Honda Accord. Right? All my niggas, you know what they're doing. They laughing. slow and steady winning the race. I get off into the trucking right from the trucking

I get off into buying me a truck I got off in the auto logistics I didn't start getting no music money to like 06 everything else was truck money and real estate money right? My parole

officer I was on high control SSU you know they sit in front of your house six months out of the year and you can't go 30 miles but dude gave me me a little thing, so I had a 10-day pass. Whatever city of state I was in, I had to go to the police precinct, and then faxed me another.

When I was out to my uncle, Bert Jones, shout out to him, it wasn't for him. I wouldn't have got the opportunity. But I studied to memorize the truck driving book in the joint. Niggas thought I was tripping. But like you, I was getting tired of the politics, tired of the selective politic.

One minute, this with that, next minute it ain't this with that because of this or that. and then I ain't gonna lie, bro. I'm gonna say it. You start having conversation with some of these people and you be like,

fuck I'm doing it here with this nigga, man. This nigga is much brain. He a homie, but, nigga, it's a whole lot more than me. Where are these other people at that can enhance me? I'm the broken nigga in my circle. Everybody in my circle,

these niggas got bees and $7,800 million. So I like being that way. because it keeps me reaching but it also gives me that foundation and support. No 100, we shit I went to Will I Am studio last night

and I went to 1500 or nothing today I'm like, nigga, I need a warehouse I need a facility with this whole setup for the videos, for everything we're doing right now, a real, you know, hub and shit. I went to Well I am studio about five years ago

I walked in the bathroom and the motherfucking toilet start talking to me. I'm like, nigga, what the fuck is going? That digger's studio. Did he show you that machine, that clone machine he got back there? That that nigger would have cloned your shoe. They said at Drake's house, all the toilets say, fuck your bitch, you fat motherfucker.

I don't know. I know where I am toilets. Five, six, seven years ago, was talking to a nigga. I ain't never seen those shit like that. Studio was crazy. That green room in the back is crazy. Yeah, exactly. He got that outside air.

You could damn there host a old little concert series. That's a perfect space, bro. Yeah. So that's like, you know, that's where my head is. that like getting us to that point of where we got that facility and we could just do the videos you want to do you know what i mean do everything in house you got some ideas for his own like you know the podcast or just whatever chopping it with his homies and shit but yeah what's your thought process on the podcast then no we got uh well i got some shit called kk career criminal entertainment

and uh it's just all homies and really ain't all homies just all real niggas like crisps bloods, I don't give the fuck who it is. And just tapping in, doing the music, inside and out. And just real niggins shit, like checking paperwork and all that shit. Same way we're doing the prison. Ain't no marks and snitches. Hold on, bro. Hold on.

Hold on, bro. So you telling me, you want to join the exposers checking paperwork. Well, you know what's going to happen to him. They mad at me for checking the paperwork. I tell me, because I'd be like, like, hey, I got the work. I don't want to speak on it, but you want me to speak on it. So I read the work.

Now it's, now is, no, this is what they tell me. Well, why did you have to be the word to say? Nick, I'm reading the work. The work is the work. That's the part. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to make it efficient.

I'm going to give you this because you got a lane. We're going to talk off here. But don't wait. You need to do a series on, bro. He hopped with this music. You need to do a TV series on, bro. Straight up. Right now, they won't do that shit.

Yeah. Right now. 50. Holla hit boy. Oh, God. Or walking into Netflix yourself. Or I got plugs at Paradigm on Andrew Ruff. The chairman, I put you right with them.

If you know, your money ain't never good with me. You know that. You just try to do it. I won't take it. I'm going to plug you direct. But do a series on, bro. They're going to watch it. The kids are TikToking.

Oh, God. They know who big hit it. That's wild, for sure, for show. I'll be seeing niggas like, man, I'm a young nigga, bro, and I fuck with your pops. That nigga, one of my favorite rappers. I'm like, this shit be mind-blowing, but like I said, we just, it's all in real time, bro, so just, I ain't know where this shit was going to really go, but it's like, you know, every day, it was like, cool, let's mash out, let's keep it running, let's move around.

So that brings about a very important question is, how did the game mixtape come about? I wouldn't call it a mixtape or album yeah I mean we was just making magic man he just he pulled up I was tired as fuck I was gonna leave I ain't know it's gonna pull up but when he did I got you know a little boost the energy and we just went in yeah no game hit me and was like man I'm pulling up but don't tell pops I wanted to be a surprise type of shit you know what I mean so when he pulled it up I I'm thinking we was going to do like one joint

and he was going to get on. He's like, nah, nigger, pull another one up, pull another one up. And we just ran. I ain't never seen nobody work like him. No, for sure. He went. That niggas a monster.

Game wolf. A normal night he's going to do three, four songs anyway. He got up in there with the homie and felt the homie energy. It was like, nigga, fuck it. You already had a relationship with him, or did you just meet him through your son? I was his first time meeting.

Yeah. Game love hip boy, though. Right. He loves shit out of hip, He had a quote in his Vlad interview where he said, what I'm doing with my career, I'm not thinking about money. I'm thinking about building authenticity in the long run.

You look at games career. I mean, he's had a lot of options to do other things. I'm going to keep it all the way funky with you. I ain't don't fuck with a lot of people. Sometimes he'll go over there because of just a relationship. But he did something for you. I've never seen him do. I hit him yesterday.

Solid. I hit the man yesterday, bro. And you need to know this, bro. I want you to know this because in this game, niggas get weird, niggas get the saying weird shit. And you need to know what this man did, right? Right?

I said, uh, did y'all do all the splits or do I need to go get it done? He said, I'm giving all my pub the big. hit. Now, I don't know if you understand what the fuck that mean. You really understand it. That's crazy. Because, nigga, that's your

livelihood. For sure. It's almost unheard. Let me break it down in the lamest terms. Right? And this is just, for example, 50 them things just landed in Nebraska. What you want me to do with your cut? Give it all the big hit.

Ain't it your work? Give it all the bro. The nigga told me, bro. I swear to God You know, I got to keep up with games Look, he said I said, your splits done I gave the pub to hit The nigga told me

And this game don't play You know he don't play that shit Yeah, I'm talking He said I gave all my pub The big hit Let the hot G-holme eat I said, you sure? He said, yeah, I'm sure

Paro No, that's stupid right there There ain't nobody You know what I mean Niggas don't Niggas don't Niggas don't Niggas are come

Do the song for free Won't charge None of that But to give you They pub That's love My nigga How many songs is on there

Nine joints Right This is Yeah That's nine joints Okay That's 20 and nine is

180 Another Five and nine is 45 45 A nigga Gaget you 225% of his publishing

and no nigger in this game did that for no nigger. You need to know that, bro. Oh God. He did that pub as you stay in this game. You're going to realize, nigga, that's your... All right, for sure. That's what makes him...

Catalog, man, built that catalog. We talk about it all that time. Without his pub, he got... He's not doing what he's doing. For sure. He did that for you, bro. definitely helping us eat and survive, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like everybody who didn't pull it up, bro, like just off the love and just like, you know,

for that for game to come in and want to do a whole album and actually want to put it out. Like the shit happened so fast. I was still, I had to keep listening to the songs like because I usually get months or weeks at least to bang the songs, learn them, see if I want to make tweaks. And we just like, nigga, however this shit's sound, we're running with it. And the response is ill to me. Did it really not get mastered? I mean, it was not

It wasn't a professional master Like, he said that in one of the sons Yeah, he's probably getting A quick mix Quick mix, my boy, David But no only that. Nigger, me and this nigga gotta have fights

Every time it's video time You know, nigga Oh yeah, yeah, yeah He said that Gotta have fights, nigga Why, he just don't want to do it Nick, no, nigga, I'm gonna do it What I want to do it,

and that's it And that's it, and I ain't doing it yet And that's it You gotta remember Me and game work Like we worked because we both understand our roles. When it comes to some street shit going on,

he'll respect me as his big homie. When it comes to the business, right? He never has a problem of me honoring him as my boss because I work for him. And then we work together, right? And you didn't see me and this nigga get out of it. We get out of catching dogs. So to see that nigga roll from that straight into a video?

I said, yeah, he's fucking with you. That nigga's doing shit. don't do, nigga, trust me, I got, what, 20,

I got 12 in with him. Nick, I didn't see it all, been to with all arguments. I'm talking

about at the airport, bro, where you at? Man shit. Fuck that show. Niggas, 500,000.

Nick, I'm playing a video game right now. I'm playing, niggas, cancel it, tell him, we scared.

This, bro, attitude. So for him to do what he did, come in, bang, out nine, ten joints, roll right, do the motherfucking video,

give you all the pub. The nigger fuck with you genuinely, bro. I don't let nobody tell you different. I can't say thank you enough, homie, just for sharing the platform and, you know what I mean? Just embracing pops on that level, man, because the shit ain't, you know what I mean? It's been a real fight just pushing this shit forward, man.

Yeah. What's that like for you, like, having worked with such big artists over the years, going back to your roots and working with somebody that you have like a purely organic relationship with where you know you obviously have to fight for every little look or every every placement every feature etc like working with the artist who's kind of from the ground up like how does that feel for you as a creative man this shit is uh it's empowering it's freeing for real man because i'm not i'm not really chasing nothing i'm just

literally working with my pops we doing the illish shit we can in the moment letting it fly and just letting you know what I mean the shit's stand where it's staying like we ain't trying to fake like we on some level or say we better than this or that. We're just, niggins doing the shit we do and it's working to some degree. You still at the spot? Yeah. What I'm gonna do when Stunner come in town.

I'm gonna hear Stunner tonight. And now we're gonna get bro one of them exclusive stunter intros. Oh God, we need that for sure. No, no, no, no. He didn't even hit burn. No, no, no, no. One thing about Stunner. Stunner bought that flag.

You know, it wasn't. I was in the fairs with Pete Ditty. I mean, uh, Popper dad. Oh, PD? Yeah, and Bonnie Hunter's B-I-P. He always spoke about blood, no. No, no, him and him and started was real close.

He was supposed to let me with blood. When I first got out, but, you know, what happened? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the homie. We lost the homie. Right after we did that little Wayne, that My Life video, not too long after that, we lost on PD over there knocking a nigga or something. You know, P.D. is, you know, whatever happened.

Rest in peace of the homie. Nah, but I'm going to definitely put that call in. when he come out, gonna pull up, and we're gonna make sure, you know, he linked with the homie and I'm gonna get stunner to do one of them, one of them, one of them, those classic intros for you, digger. Oh, yeah, I'm God.

That's my word. That's hard. Appreciate that. You've been supporting since he touched, though, for show, you know what I'm? No, every time I've seen him post some of them, reposting and read, I'm saying. First of all, you who you are to me.

You know what I'm saying? And just to let you know Daimu to Daimu. Before I even knew you, Nefko, tell you, you know it was always that solid give a fuck what was going on and then meeting you and seeing y'all thing and holling at the homies G. Wayne and

and gas and just holling at the homies and seeing how how they speak of you and I got rips like big fave and you know real Crip niggas tapping in just like bro like whack that niggas a real one and this that another and then watching your movement you know what I'm saying so you know I'm really just doing what a homie's supposed to do

and we two 10 Babies. Two 10 babies, you know what I'm saying? Two 10 babies, you know what I'm saying? This random is here, but I was playing for the ponies when I was a kid. After the ponies? We played in the Pekoma.

I got hit by a middle linebacker. That shit made me quit. A big-ass Pekoyama, nigga. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna fuck with this music shit. That's me for a show. Y'all remember you told me you played for the poties. You know, you got to remember like Big Lalo M. Train, Joe Buda.

Joe Buda was one of the homies. back then little man six-toe's brim at the keys to the yard inside of that I was 16 I was a pump but Joe Buda he lied to listen and you know how serious this is he let me be part of his

buffing crew you know you're trying to get part of a crew and they got their system right? Joe Booder my name you know Joe Booder's a damn fool right and Joe Buda let me come in part of his Buffy crew they got me as strong as a bull back then

but you know it had always been real love with that, the King manners, you know what I mean, it had always been what it was. You know what I'm saying? So, at the day, it's a lot of history come out from over there. A lot, a lot of history. What's his name? Papa Piru.

Oh, shit, you probably do. No, I think you do. He told him you tapped in with him. Big Day. Oh, yeah, Big Ducking Day? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, them are G-hommies. Yeah, them are G-O-Meet.

Yeah, them are G-in-hmm. You know, and then I hit Adam. You know, Adam definitely supported. He real funny about who come up here, especially last minute notice. He's supportive, you know, of me. You did tell me in advance. I just didn't see the text for the record, so I had to do last minutes. You know, you do like most white people.

I just, I need a couple hours. Accus a black man of doing something. No, okay, I can't sit down and do an interview unless I got a couple hours to get ready for it. That wasn't on me. You're right. You did tell me. You know what I did? I didn't even put it on the text with Laura.

I put it on the text blast with your researcher. Who's my researcher? The homie that do the, uh... With the fishing hands? Hey, Remo, don't Remo sent you a lot of shit. So I put it intensely on there in case you didn't, you forgot. He could do his job.

Okay, but one thing you might not know about. So after N-Words in Paris and all that crazy shit that he had back in the day, he actually has a clip with academics where he talks about the fact that he actually kind of like, like put all his homies in a giant fucking mansion and was basically like paying for everything. And you actually ended up going broke off it,

which is kind of a fucking crazy story. I ain't, I had to this. I had that deal with Jimmy got that deal in like 2012. What Jim, Yavin? Jimmy Yavin, yeah, he gave me a label deal. Like, gave me some little M's and shit. And I went and got a crib and put, like, five, six studios in that bitch. Bro, everybody from Travis Scott to Post Malone.

So many niggas was in there before they was even like, Travis with no hair type shit. Like, just young niggas getting to it. But I just was, you know, I was providing a lot of opportunity. And I was also throwing a lot of parties and had a lot of shit going on. So it just kind of got to that point where, I moved to another crib, and I was kind of more getting back to myself and shit, you know, but I didn't have that deal no more. You know what I mean?

I had had that overhead coming in. So basically, I spent the last of my bread renting this crib in Beverly Hills. That's why I had to move to Chalice. I moved to Chalice, saved up my money. I just went back and bought that crib like three months ago, Beverly Hills. I seen you went back and brought up. Was that the crib you had to move out of? Yeah, you went back and brought up.

Yeah, you went to brought that shit for sure, yeah. But that's interesting to me. Because, like, as a producer especially, you're going to become successful from basically having no fucking social life a large percentage of the time and just being locked in, working. A lot of people don't recognize that or talk about that, that if you want to be a success as a rapper, as a producer, whatever, you have to kind of be willing to, like, sacrifice a lot of normal person time doing shit. And then once you achieve success, it becomes even more of a challenge because you got people inviting you to every fucking party and everything. Just that access, man. It's crazy because even in high school, bro, I never was going to parties and shit,

and I was conscious of it. I wasn't just on some square shit. It was more so like, nigga, I'm about to go make this music because when I turn up, I really want to be able to do exactly what the fuck I want to do. And that's what happened.

That's what happened, you know what I mean? I got to 24, 25, got some M's and just like, cool, I'm going to put all the homies on. And we're finer, you know what I mean? I just thought it was, yeah, exactly. So it's like, you know, I ain't had that guy that pops was locked up. You know what I mean?

I had an uncle who was in a successful group early in my life, but that changed around for him too, so I didn't really have the information like that. But it just was like, you know, I feel like, man, I mean, I'm way more up than I ever been right now just as far as I would say respect, you know what I mean, just financially, just all the shit I'm doing. And I had to go through that.

I had to prepare. Pops was out around 2014. We did a song that G unit went and took the hook and the beat and everything and just like made their own version. They just snatched that shit. They didn't make any. attempt to... Nah, they just snatched it.

You know what I mean? So we had some... I mean, shit, they got the instrumental. And, nigga, we landed in New York to do some promo, go on sway and fuck with different niggas. And we turned the radio on. We thinking it's our version. My beat playing, then the G-unit version was playing.

And it was just like, damn. Like, they really just kind of, you know what I mean? Took that whole little moment and ran with it. So we ever meet Kay Slate? I don't think so. Never? Damn. I don't think so.

But so you hadn't actually, like, locked in the beat with the producer and shit yet at that point? That was my, it was my beat. It was on the Interscope, yeah So how were they able to just take it then? I mean, they didn't put it on streaming platforms And those shit They just like it was just like they put it on radio Though they did a small like whatever

Because radio was playing I'm surprised they didn't double back and just try to You were still on interscope back then? Not for sure, I was. They were still on Interscope I don't know why they, I don't know game But he said that was kind of like the last thing that we ever really saw GUNA do

It's just wrong ass time ago No, but this is way after that This is like 2014 Yeah but game game came out in 2005. No, no, no. The actual, it was over with, that's when they dropped that album

and only did 99,000. Remember that shit? And back then, that was horrible. Right, right, right. And it was, you know, it was... Sounds pretty good these days. No, these days are incredible right now. That was for sure. Hey, I see these numbers now.

It was crazy. Yeah. That means that like a billion people had to listen to it on streaming in order to get to like 100,000 streams. It's different. But listen, everybody, check this out, man. The truth is in my...

My eyes, this shit is very different. It's high quality. You spent some money on this shit. You know what I'm saying? You got, you know, you scan it. There's a whole album. Extra songs in here. Gia LoHurdy, you know, the G-Homie.

Definitely go copy these CDs. Matter of fact, where could they? Man, they can go on his website, big hit noopit.com. You order the CD or get the digital download. You know what I mean? You can order the magazine. All his. merch he like literally hand-drawn

that shirt he got on right now like he made that shirt he'd be on some creative shit every day out even just behind the music like he making shit he doing all type of shit so it's like we just staying creative bro and yeah big hit you got merch the CD the book

you could probably buy a bundle right yeah for sure for sure yeah there go man big hit noopit.com man I'm gonna tell you listen man you never know somebody gonna become and this type of shit and a nice glass. You didn't look up and they didn't turn it into something else.

Now you got something that's worth something. That's the fact. Yeah, for sure. And the fact that it's more exclusive than we are accustomed to these days because it's not on DSPs. It's not on streaming platforms because I just felt like it's too special to me to just like give it out, you know what I mean, in that type of manner.

And it's like, you know, I really want people to come into his world get to know him as an artist and as a person. So that's why I'm investing in this shit. and then we're moving, you know what I mean, how we're moving. It's crazy when you think about it too, because most, you know, younger rappers or producers in hip hop, like, they don't, they're not like on a, they're not really willing to put out their dad or whatever like that. Or like, you'll hear about people in the music industry who will tell a rapper,

a young rapper, don't take pictures with old heads because it's going to make you look old and it's going to kind of like dilute your image and stuff. So that's why I feel like it's extra bold on your part. And the fact that it actually is working is kind of like extra. impressive. But not only that, you know, it's his father and his dad. And, you know, that's one thing. But his dad is a pillar amongst our foundation when it comes to this thing we stand on. You know what I'm saying? And when you look at it, a lot of the up-and-coming artists, artists have been around that represent this thing, we represent, right? They want to do music with hit boy. And to be, them to be able to meet pop,

to shake his head. Don't get it fucked up. And they'll all tell you from the RJs, from the YGs, the games, anybody, right? It's an honor to shake somebody's hand that you know helped pay the way

for the thing you're standing for and representing. You know what I mean? And then with him, it's an honor to shake their hand because he didn't bust down, did burpees, listen to their music. Their music probably didn't help him

get through something. you know what I'm saying? So it's going both ways. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I'm just, I'm happy though. Listen, man, what you're doing and what you've done and the opportunities you're giving pops, salute. Nobody's having, nobody haven't done that, bro.

I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? Nobody haven't done that. You know what I'm saying? You got my word, bro. It was like that prior to, but it's double like that. Anything ever. You know what I'm saying?

you know I'm in stand in front of that bed for nef whack there neff coming home you know what I'm saying you got my word on that you know what I'm saying so keep doing what you doing man keep up the good work you got all my you know anytime you call me about anything

anything I could do I'm gonna do I'm gonna take this the clubhouse we're gonna do a listener session you know G Wayne and gas them on there we got you know I got a community 50,000 on there I see you sure Yeah, so we're going to pin the links up. I'm going to pin the links up. We're going to do all that.

We're going to pump it out there and do everything we could do. You know, I didn't realize that much like Travis Barker, you're on the short list of superstars to emerge out of Fontana. Yeah, exactly. I mean, really, I stay in Pasadena Longwood. Yeah, I see that too. Yeah, and I, but. Your mama must have took you that way.

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she was trying to get that. Definitely. Like, you know what I mean? She drilled back to my whole life. Like, you don't want to end up in there. like your pop swoop-ty-whoop.

Like so, you know what I mean? I always just had this mind where it's like, I'm gonna just lock in and do some productive shit, you know what I mean? But think about it. Hey, Adam, and he know this. You know how many motherfuckers look up in their son on the yard

with him? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that's a good thing that it worked in reverse. He looked up in his daddy in the studio with him. I mean, it's a rare dude who's able to, it's kind of like a rare thing to be able to

sort of like have your dad give you advice and tell you to stay away from certain things and for the son to actually take the advice and then be successful with that advice like because i'm sure you had plenty of temptation to get into bullshit and whatnot every every nigga i went to school with in pasadena like for the most part my my close nucleus is locked up literally dead you know what i mean or not doing a whole lot so it's just like man i'm glad i was able to get out to the eye i got away from all like my the nucleus of people i was around that start banging all them niggies turned out to be bloods or crips and

just like, you know what I mean, just going on a different route. So, man, this whole shit, I be, it's like I got an epiphany every day. Like, damn, that's why this situation happened. Like, me and Pops, we both had to go through our shit to, like, meet at this point right now. Did you fear that, bro? When you was locked up, calling out there and hearing your son, then got put on the hood? Or was you pushing the line, you niggas bet not put my son on the hood? Yeah, nah, that wasn't going to happen.

Yeah, I ain't, yeah. Yeah, I was, I would have been able to pay for that. I would say, wait, fuck that. I don't want, bro. Listen, we know, you got to remember, man, we can't tell you, we're lucky to survive that shit. You know, we talk about it. I hear the stories, bro.

I be in there mind-blown. Yeah, bro. Yeah, for sure. We're lucky to survive that, and we don't, man, we don't admit some of the degrading shit we gotta go through stripping niggas down and squad to be saying to you when you were in the basement and shit who the police yeah oh shit all kind of shit uh you know the warden used to come through like just time me you know look at the monkey or you know yeah yeah yeah they do that cut your ears off this shit like that

you know hi jemail oh yeah you know i took off on the police the solid dad they put me They put me in the padded room after about a day and a half. Bud naked. You butt naked. Nick, they hit me with the, about a day and a half. I didn't know where I was at. Shout out to a little man from six dudes. He shut everything down and made them bring me out.

What's the shit happened with him? Crack your ribs and shit, broke your ribs. Oh, yeah, they, they killed me in that motherfucking flatline. Oh, you flatline in there? Yeah, they, I fought like 12 sheriffs. You know, they In the county jail, they... Yeah, they're gonna keep coming.

They shit, I know. They had me strapped down on the bed, six police slurs on each side, just holding my mouth, holding my nose. You know what I'm saying? Just to the last breath, niggas, like, so I went out. I held my, you know, I couldn't breathe.

Like, shackled up, and I woke up, probably shackled like this. They knocked me out again. I woke up, shackled up, shackled up. like this. They knocked me out again. Then I was shackled like this the last time.

And that's when they had their mouth. They told me, nigga, dog, nigga. He's whispering to my ear. Telling me to die. That's why I'm glad, niggas, like, four-leaf, booked their ass for three,

four million. You know what I'm saying? You said you're suing them, right? I'm kicked. Not yet. I mean, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm trying to. I'm not saying.

Why would they do that to you? That specific scenario you're describing right there. Like what prompted? He fought 12 shares. Now, we was in there and basically we was going, like in the county jail, it'd take you like a week to get a bed back then. And we just moving from sale to sale to sale to cell, to sell, like just days just standing up, like, just delirious.

And I'm like telling niggas like, man, motherfuckers on the floor just, just can't run. It's like a sardine. sleep. I'm standing up sleeping. I'm like, when the police come here, honey, we're going to tell him we will need a fucking bed, my nigga. Like, we're not in fucking Mexico, honey. Like, message's on the

floor, and you're pissing all. Like, goddamn, nigga, we're in America. You know what I'm saying? Like, and I told him, brother, when he opened this door up, honey, we're going to demand to see the fucking captain, honey, and we're going to go hard. And one one nigga was a ride with me.

Only one. My nigga was madded up. He was sleeping on the floor. It's like, she was like a box He was just sitting there sleep for days Like he wouldn't eat his food or nothing, right? I'm like waking this nigga like eat bro Like, you get your ass up Niggin' like we're trying to fight

Nick the next time he comes to this motherfucker We're gonna get out with the police And he got up Everybody else stood back And police tried to slide the food in And close the door and lock the door And I just kicked the door Fuck that, I need to talk to the cabin

You know what I'm saying? Where the cabin at? You know what I'm saying? Your fucking nose on God damn wall You know what I'm saying? I wasn't doing none of that. You tried to mash my face on the wall. I got off on him.

And they all came and, you know, it was just nonstop. It took 12 of them to get me down. Did they try to get your other charges? They just let it ride as what they did to you? Nah, they hit me out in the basement like a week. I woke up in the basement of the USC Medical Center. And the doctor was telling me basically, damn, nigga, you made you.

you flat line. And I'm like, well, I had a tube down my throat. I was like this. Cuffs was in, like, my skin was swollen up over to pinch my nerves. I couldn't feel my arms on my legs because it's stuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like about a week, I was in that motherfucker. So the doctor said, man, if you want to make it out of here alive,

you better not, you don't remember nothing. Like, you understand? Like, yeah, went out, police came in, like, around me like you you remember what happened to you I'm like now you sure like they left out came back with the cameras like yeah today is such a such we'll know we got an inmate this and that you know the regular drag like it was in the regular situation so how the doctor knew that bro he must have heard him no he he yeah he he he had seen some shit yeah that's what I used to do is take him in

that basement and if you know why You don't come out. You don't come out. Yeah. And they killed a lot of people, my nigga, and they killed me shit. I mean, like you said, somebody's praying for you, you know what I'm saying? Because a nigga flatline. Y'all I know that fucks you up when you hear that.

Nah, that shit is insane, bro. I hear every story. You know what I mean? That shit just be, I can't even fathom living through that shit. That's why we don't want you to go through that shit. Yeah. We did all that niggas. He did all that.

you don't need to none of that everything that love him gonna love you anyway out of the politics of hell is it hard for you to completely just you know snap change your life and just live on the straight and narrow or like what does that like for you at this point especially given that you have so many opportunities right in front of you I mean the opportunities is like still like a fairy tale you know what I'm saying at the end of of the day, it's like, I don't know, it wasn't no rehabilitation in there. So, motherfucker, like, stuck in his ways. Myfucker got worse, so then niggas didn't go to jail and get rehabilitated.

Like, you just became a smarter criminal, a harder criminal, you know what I'm saying? Calus, just, it didn't do shit, but callous my heart. But he is, like, just focused. I got accustomed to a lifestyle. that when, you know, on the street, that a lot of niggas can't get that up. You know what I'm saying? And they'll do anything to keep that up. That lifestyle, my nigga, it's a rush.

It's ain't even about, a lot of it ain't even about the money. A lot of niggas, my homie Ray Ray, a nigga, 50 rich, millions. A nigga ain't still in the game. You know, a lot of motherfuckers just like, get out the game, bro. There's a lot of motherfuckers just in the game. It's not even about the money no more. It's the rush. It's a lifestyle

And that's what I was able to Try to break out of that Stop giving the fuck about it When I found my inner peace Because You gotta remember I got all the toys

The low riders The hogs The bikes To all this shit But And it's like he said It's that rush To just

Make it happen Like You know It's something about it But what made me Find my inner peace Was overseas I want

My goal this year is to be able to buy a spot in London because I'm actually operating overseas. From London, I can get to the Paru. They got a train, nigga,

and you be underwater, don't even know it. From London, Paris, deuce hours. Then. After them, an hour. You know what I'm saying? It's real shit, right? So, seeing that, like, okay, I did this.

We didn't survive, we didn't hustle, we didn't see billions of dollars, we didn't see the good, the bad, all that, right? But I want to, now I want to, I want to be able to see in that pocket and be able to survive and create business over there. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's my rush. You know what I'm saying? I had to find a way of doing it, how to create, what could I do? And that's where the diaper company come from. You know what I'm saying? And my first big contract is in Africa. You know what I'm saying?

200 million. Congo. Number one diaper dealer in the Congo. With the government, I own 100% of the diaper company. I was taking trips. I watched American gangster.

I'm watching Frank Lucas go direct. Better product for less price. I'm following our ways that we know how to distribute. You know that. The only difference now here is guess what?

I ain't got to look off my shoulder. Yo, did you just send 50 containers over there? Yes, I did. Diapers. Ain't nothing in them boxes. I'm pennies on the dock. I'm direct with the connect.

I'd have been to Vietnam, Hong Kong, Guanzal, all these spots walking in the factories, seeing if they can meet my quota. You know what I'm saying? Floyd reached out to me. Wag, I see what you're doing.

I won't end. Won't end on what? Music? No, the diapers. Crazy. I got, you know, what you need? Five, ten million. Like, you know what I'm saying?

To get these calls, bro, they just told, you know, they want me to build a motherfucking manufacturing facility in the Congo. They said, we're going to get his contract. We're going to test you with $30 million. It's crazy how my kid just behaving on your diaper brand and she don't even know how much it would hurt you.

Parker. No, Parker, that's my home girl. Get my home girl alone. I can't wait until you meet her. She talks about you like the bad guys in the movie. That's good. You're a Caucasian key. is talking about the black

Superman. I want her to meet you so you can kind of be like humanized. You got a whole lot of black shit going on. It's just because she's seen you talking on camera and she thinks that you seem kind of scary. Yo, but listen, I got 12 months to build a facility in Congo.

In the Congo, bro. First, they said, we're going to give you a trial run with $30 million. After 12 months, we'll bumping up to 200 million, but you got our facility here. Nigeria has already called. Can we follow behind? I ain't even Bahrain.

You better have a good tour guide. Huh? You better have a good tour guide. I'm all right. Shout out to my brother Frenchie. There's like a lot of... My brother Frenchie is his uncle... There's a lot of corruption if you want to do business out there.

Listen, you're always saying that about black folks. No, I'm sorry. It's corruption here with your people. It's notoriously hard to get business done in Africa because of the corruption with the government officials and shit like that. I got a team, but once again, somebody I met running my mouth too. We end up doing. doing Shug's first rights, life rights,

to a book early 2000s. Zachariah Lee tell me, whack, what I owe you. You don't owe me nothing, do your thing, right? Years later, he's in the Congo doing the military uniforms, 50 schools. He got all the contracts.

He said, whack, the elections is here, and they want to do women shit for females. You got the diaper cup of me ready to go? Yeah. Come on. Somebody I would just run in my mouth too, bro. He's from Philly. He's a Sunni Muslim.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's real shit. So it's just something I was just running my mouth to. I just like how he's able to turn every podcast into a little bit of a diaper infomercial at a certain point. Well, let me ask you. You tell the story? I like it, though.

Let me ask you something. We don't know jumping, right? Yeah. It's your platform, right? Right. The Negro across from you helping you push your platform, right? I don't see color. So when is the white dude going to help push my shit?

I'm just listening. I'm giving you a soundboard for you to talk about your diaper company. All right? What's that? You want me to promote your diapers more? I'm down, honestly. Do what you want to do. Whatever you want me to do.

You know the beauty part about this shit here? I don't need him. Incredible don't need you. You got Nick Cannon. So no. You definitely don't need it. Nick Cannon is definitely an ambassador. I also feel like I don't have many fans that wear diapers or purchase diapers.

Well, that midget you had up in here. So in that way, I don't plan on competing with you. Like, I won 100% I'm not going to get into the diaper game. That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to get into the diaper game. Damn. But I did get us some sponsorships. Shout out to my boy up at Lancaster Chevrolet.

I talked to the owner today. You want to talk to us. This episode is going to be sponsored by the Chevrolet dealership? We could definitely do that. He offered all kinds of shit today. New cars and everything. See, he gives us cars. I felt like at the end of all that, you were going to say,

that you wanted to do a big hit diaper line or something like a signature diaper line or something. Hey, don't get me wrong if it's laying for the homie to throw his imprint on it. I love to throw it on there and let the home see it cut it. Like hit boy. It was like a perfect name for like a diaper mascot or something like, you know. Hit boy. You know, it's like for a little boy. You know, it's like kind of pull up. Yeah, something like that, you know. Hey, I love to throw the homie that on there. They give him a percentage of that because that don't stop. It's a baby boy on every 11 seconds. man

with the red flag diapers paisley oh god oh shit man this is a hell of it I liked your segment appreciate you Adam glad we were able to get one in for sure

yeah everybody your truth is in my eyes go cop it big hit noopit big hit noopit dot com that's NU P-I-D-N-N-B-B-B-W

we're going to hold something When we do this interview, whenever it come out Sunday, I'm going to make sure we run a room all day long on Clubhouse. We're going to run the interview. We'll cover the whoops up. The Roop's cereal just got covered up. We're going to throw the – we're going to throw the – With a different kind of whooping, right?

Moops, huh? Whoop cereal? My. Oh, yeah, yeah. My homie from Chicago, he did. Hoops. He doesn't know anything about the whole – Moops.

Hey. He hit different up. Yeah. He knows. Oh shit. That's hard. Hey, don't look up top. I don't need you, all right?

Oh, man. You know what I'm saying? Hey, let me ask you one question before we go. Oh, man. How many victims did the Cisco Orange calls, bro? What the fuck is that, man? Oh, Cisco. They had a Cisco Orange that make niggas go crazy back today.

Man. What's a Cisco orange? Nigger, listen. It was a drink. That shit was like liquid crick. That shit was like liquid shirm. Yeah. Make a motherfucker turn it to that.

It's like an orange soda. No way. That boy. No, it was like that. I don't know what the hell I was. I didn't drink it. My motherfucker could drink that. You see his eyes die late?

Nigger, what's wrong with you? Nicky, you want to get our own? One more money. It was Cisco orange. Do they sell Cisco still? Yeah, that shit. That shit. That shit.

That shit got fans. I was too young. I remember the 40s They changed that shit too. They changed that shit too. Y'all don't drink, so is it, it tastes different? What motherfuck used to be? That's a real bottle one right here?

That's a real bottle. That's a real bottle right here. So we're holding onto it for him. These niggins are just like, pops up. Oh, for real. Yeah. So did it. You respect this brand of Cripping?

I mean, I guess, yeah. He's from far, far. Yeah, where he's from? So listen, so the Odie now tastes different from back then? Yeah, it would know. Damn. Is it more water down now? It's water down.

So it ain't with it? Because the home is, you know what? It ain't, yeah. It ain't it no more. That's a bottle one? That's a bottle. That's a glass, nigga. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Plastic joints definitely going to taste different. I'm going to have to bring the shivie out for the home. He's going to go crazy when he's, you beat my shivie? No. You ain't beat the red flag, shibby? No. The whole roof of flag. What is it?

It's a tray. Whole roof of flag, the feeder flag, the griller flag, the trucker flag, 16 batteries, the real painted flag, no material. I'm not to bring it out. I'm mad to bring it out for the homie let him. God, you got to the pop up, man, niggas. You're going to lose your mind when you see it. That'd be hard.

Well, man, I appreciate you pulling up, man. It's all love and respect. For sure. Nick, speaking of a duck hitting me right now. Oh, yeah. Tell me what I said was bright. All right. The Adam and Wax show featuring big hit and hit boy.

That was a legendary episode right there. Thank you for setting that up. We're fighting for credit. It's like Cisco and Iber. It's like Cisco and Ibrough. All right. We out west up. Appreciate you, Doug.

Woo.