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The Adam & Wack Show #20 featuring Hit-Boy & Big Hit

January 8, 20240 comments♥ 0

00:06White guy.Nice hat.Did you wear that for me?Oh, shit.So you claim Palace merchandise as well?No, that's P-Fone.Oh, okay.Carl Rooke Kloombe, you know, we two-ten, baby, so Pasadena.

00:22So what kind of history do you guys have?I met the homie over the phone when he first come home.It's my first time meeting in person.Okay.But, you know, his reputation speaks for itself.You know, when you got certain homies that,and did a lot of timeand did the type of time he did

00:40they keep the doors openfor the homies to come behind themyou know what I'm saying it's like an oldsaying from back in the daysthere's dudes and deaths to those before uswe must remain the strongest soldiersfor the ones to followthe missions to move forward to get there

00:58and he's not to know how far to goand when certain homies is in therehe's the type of homie thatHe went in there to do his timeBut whatever that date wasIf he made it to it he made it to itHe was going to, he wasn't factoring inI'm trying to make this date

01:13So this ain't going to happenSo when I look up on my phoneAnd I got like cripsThat I've been knowing for decadesTexted me sayingYoYour man ChansyHe wanted him

01:27I ain't even askingI ain't doing no resume check on the homieOut of respectThis is the homie fatherAnd all thePDLs I know is likehey that's the big homie but whenthis is just voluntarily

01:40texting me these things and namingspots and locations and eventsand it's likeyou know because a lot ofhomies that didn't walk that type ofwalk and I can'teven claim to walk that type of walkbecause I didn't do the type of time the homie did

01:56the homie got damntheir double plus incollectively right and that'sjust feds in state ain't no tellinghow much wide time you might have did, right?So, you know, I got like a dime overall,but he didn't been to both feds in CDC, right?So wherever he's went, it's always been the same story.

02:18You know what I'm saying?They say he's a storm.You know, you're going to know you're on the yard.So, you know, when you're dealing with thatand seeing him come home the way he came home to nephew,you know what I'm saying?And I got this saying,If your son is named after you, your little or baby a tiny, when it comes to some games,

02:42I'm going to look at you a little different because coming from our era, we know what we went through,and we don't want none of that shit.We don't want to even envision our son in a mucus chain or on a cage or being stripped down or zip tied on a yardbecause of a rod because of the color of his skin.So me, nephew, right?and I didn't know nothing about his dad at the time when we met, right?Yeah, right.So just me, nephew, his energy was so good because I raised my son the same way.

03:12Be honorable, be respectful, but be a man, but you ain't got to be part of this shit.So when the first time you put me on the phone with pops and I'm talking to him, right?When he touched him.Yeah, yeah, when I'm talking to him, right, I hear it.I hear the language.I hear the pain.I hear the struggle and I hear his gangster, right?And then to sit back and watch him.

03:32I watch him every day on the internet.I went to sit back and see what he doing and watching himand hear what his goals are.You know, hear what he want to do, right?And see his work ethic in the,and know that his baby boy was hereand able to open some doors when he come homeand to see y'all bond.

03:54Because a lot of fathers and sons get into it.Oh, yeah.They come home and the son be like,man.I'm nizand he's like, look, little nigger,let me holl at you, you know what I'm saying?You know what I'm saying? Like, uh,

04:07me in my DM every day.Like, man, listen, bro, you make me want to hit my pops.We ain't been cool.No, this real shit.So the city and watch it.More than the music.And you know, you got to remember.I laugh about it.

04:18Right?Because the homie be doing.That's that area.Like the other day.This is in the living room.Oh, God.Programmed.This is programming in the liver room,

04:28doing the clap for a show.Oh, God.But he watched.he's watching his video on the big screen, right?So what he didn't did was he's a big inspirationto n'n'r, behind the walls.And not only y'all two, right,the way y'all father's son is,

04:47bro, to see you moving around,no bro on the flow at the game in New York,just to see this as a, you know,coming from where I'm from,because my first five years, I don't know about you, bro,my son first five yearshis life, I was goneand all the gangst shit

05:04I was doing in the jointI still felt like abecause I wasn't there.You know what I'm saying?I missed his first steps.Like I wasn't there.Like I caught home and he didn'tin the back and I couldn't do nothing.

05:17And a lot of thattook out on the way, palor just took out on the if I was one of them days, right?So my question to you is like,bro, you did a lot of time.Right?What made you say this time when I come home,I'm a locking with my baby boy,

05:36Locking with my son.Because I knew you had goals.You wanted to chase on the rap.And he was, you know, he's the top,he won our top producers right now just in the game, right?He's the only one.He'll tell you, because I got a reputationwhen it comes time to doing business.

05:52Like, because, you know, I pay all my bills independent.That's what I call and tell you, what you want?Wow, we ran it up for sure.I said, what you want, Neff?You gave me a number.I ran it.You know, I still be handling that business like our old business.Like, hold on.

06:05I'm not fit to pay you that.I'm going to give you this.But when it comes to NEP, I was glad to pay him.You did a lot of work on games last album.Like, I was glad to pay him.What you want?I paid you first.You got paid first out of anybody.

06:20Right?So how did it feel, bro?They, like, come home and see your son locked in.and be able to fall in line to be able to chase your dreamsthrough something he was already doing.I mean, it's a blessing, bro.I just got burnt out.I'm on everything.

06:46My niggily, like, the politics, the whole.And I just told myself, I'm going to isolate myself.And around this, you know what I'm saying?My grandson, my son, my son, my daughter.Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that booth. That's my cell now. I don't got no urge to go out andTrick and do all this you know what I'm saying you got 100 songs in eight months no literallyWhen I'm sitting up like this money like like a pile of money then I can have funWhen I can't count it when I can spend my money and I can't count it my

07:26Then I can go have fun I'm meother than that I'm going to be out there trying to get itso I'm gonna stay in the booth till I get it blood on meno that's real shitso my question for you isis this something like likereinvigorating your dad's career and like you knowreally pushing him as an artist

07:48would you say that that was something that you always wanted to door you kind of thought about or was it something where you justrecognized that he had like a really unique talentyeah nah man he uh he came home arounda time when I really start even doing beats, which was when I was like 17 type, you know what I mean?Like 16, 17.Like for the time I was three, though.Got you.

08:10You got locked up when I was three and got out around, you know, when I was like 17.Just like we always talked about the shit, even them times.Like we worked on music back then just doing ideas.I obviously was early in my career, so I couldn't really make no real moves.So we one time we went to a, we both paid to go to a conference in Vegas.This is like, what, year 2001, 2002, something like that?I was like 2005.Oh, yeah, it was, oh, God.

08:38Yeah, but, like, we ended up at that together, like, trying to do music, you know what I mean?So we just always had this, like, you know, a lot of people might think, like, oh, his hit boy, he just got on.He just throwing his dad in the game.But we've been literally talking about this shit as I was young.Right.Yeah.Because, I mean, very few times have I even seen somebody attempt what you guys are doing, which even outside of, like, the fact that it's, like,like a son kind of putting his dad on.

09:02Like, I've never seen a younger rap personality be able to put on an OG.It just very rarely works out like that.And I've seen quite a few people try it.Like, I remember when 50 tried to put on MOP and Mob Deep back in the day.And I never felt like that really worked.Like, his fans were younger.They didn't want to listen to somebody who was 10 years older than them or whatever.And, like, for you to be able to, like, recognize his talent.

09:26But I also just wonder, like, if it's the quality of your beats that are,kind of carrying a lot of this stuff.But I also do feel like you have like a very unique flow.I feel like he inspiring me.He made him, like I said, he got four hundred songs since he touched down.So, you know, I'm a workhorse myself and that's something even, you know,because we didn't get to spend that much time on the street.So I'm learning about myself just being around him.

09:47And it's like, oh, his work ethic, that's why I be locked in.That's why I ask me why I'm always in the studio.It's like that is just in us.I'm going to tell you why.And I'm taking nothing away from that few beats.Because just one thing.He has the hunger of a dude who's just locked up for Mad Lone.And like for you, you might be kind of at the point in your career

10:04where you could be getting complacent, right?But like now you're kind of like feeling the hunger from himand it's forcing you to go harder?No, for sure, man.We both got the same passion, same dreams, same goals.So it's like we're just running the race together.I'm going to tell you why it's not just the beats.When I look up on TikTok and I see little white kids walking past a mirror

10:27and makingfrown in their faceand talking aboutI bang on myselfwhen I get text messages like thisfrom New YorkI don't want you to thinkI'm capping bro

10:41this is New Yorkthis is from New Yorkand they be battling with meabout hip hopand gayster rapthis is Monday hitwhat do he sayBig hit my favorite

10:55right nowI'm telling you, big, bro.My man Zee from New York.From New York.It's not out of nowhere since me this with your.So was that clip of you doing the bang song?Was that like totally organic that that ended up becoming like a viral thing?Completely, bro.

11:15He don't even know about far around.You got to understand like he don't give a fuck about this.Like this is raw uncut.Like he's not analyzing looking at the game.He's just going.You know what I mean?He only didn't even know who little Uzi was, bro.He don't know.

11:29When he got out, he told him who Uzi was.I set a bar in the song we did,and I said,Pops got a little Uzi.I just want to rock.He said, why you call the Uzi Lou?I'm like, it's a rapper name.I said it's a ball.

11:39When he said that bar,it took me back.Yeah.Because I don't get fucking where you from, right?When I was throwing on them cacks and them chucks,and we was creasing them flags,and we went, right?and got in front of that mirror

11:56everybody gave it upyou gave it up to yourselflike yeah everybodygave it up so when he saidthat I said ohyou took me back to theOG remember the mirrors with thegold little designs grandma

12:12had and they piece them togetherwe all did thatthat's hardlike most of why people resonatedwith that shitthat's real shityou know that's really like when he said it didn'tthe bar with you

12:24I said I break through myself so muchBag, bad, badGodIt's not you're sucking on wallsIt's nuts, blood, likeBut where you get it from?God damnWhere you get it from?

12:39That's me, right?Yeah.Be getting into it all typeYou know, it's nothing but love, but you know,it's just family.Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.I mean, he'll be like,remind me and me right now.

12:50But, you know, I'm the opposite, though.I'm like the cool.come like himthese two right here is the same person likethey they're gonna say whateverthey're gonna wild out turn upbut hit boy to me is likehow Nick Cannon is to me

13:05to all of us if you got aproblem with hit boy you're the problembecause he's likeknighted yeah becausehe don't walk withnobody he don't do no bad businessso if you got a problemwith hit you're the problem

13:23you're kind of like theopposite side of that coin.What you mean?Somebody will like, tell me something toabout you and I'll be like, yeah, man,I don't know, he's crazy.I don't know, man.This is what it is.

13:32You then took a wide baby.I just assume it's true.You then took a wide baby,a juvenile delinquent,a penitentiary.Right?Who got rich legally, right?Who ain't cut,

13:48who ain't never been high,never been drunk,who ain't got no smut,no roll-ups.Ain't none of that never happened.right and you didn't put me on the platform where I could just speak my truth I don't giveI appreciate your perspective 100% just to make that clear other mother's thinking and don't wantto say it's just gonna be what it's gonna be I come from an error where my my tribe was out number

14:13five to one so you had to be half crazy to be what the we was representing anyway okay so here's myquestion behind the walls what's the opinion of whack 100Behind the walls?Yeah.Blood like damn near the almost like shook.Yo.I don't know if he wants that reputation.No, no.

14:41You can't, listen, regards to that, you can't,nigga can't take away from what he did.He did a whole lot.He kicked in the doors, made a lot of this independent game available.He took 30 cents, where niggas was getting paid 30 cents,to 30%I never forgetme and Jay Roth

15:00my carlis were living togetherwhen I paroledand I seen one of their royalty checkscome inand them niggas was literallysplitting up 30$0.30,nigga, from the $15.

15:12Yeah.Right?Shug is one of the niggasthat went into them billsand like, nah, we ain't going for this.We signed the artistsdirected us and this is what we want.Yeah.

15:22And from that, I've never donea deal less than 50%.right so you can't take that from him that's something you can't take from no man i don't givewhat's going on you got to give credit what credits do with anybody that's why when i seenephew and i see the homie right because listen i'm gonna be real right now he just won awayhe got the kids on ticot doing his shit somebody's little young little rapper mumble rappersthey can't even get the kids on ticot to do their shit you know what i'm saying you got motherfuckerson Clubhouse

15:57reciting his barsI go to a roomit's a whole listening sessionon his musicWhat was that likefor you to likebe reading throughthousands of comments

16:07of peoplehaving super strong reactionsto just a chunkof one of your songsI meanI'm still tripping on itIt's coolI mean

16:20It's coolI'm not reallyy'all feel like thatHe don't knowAdamI don't think heHe doesn't knowI understand, bro, how hard.

16:31Yeah.How long you've been home, bro?Amen.Adam, you know this.Because he was just, how long does some of these motherfuckers be out here working before peopleeven know their name?Right.Well, I mean, you guys are doing, like, the hardest thing, which is to get people to pay

16:46attention to an artist who's older.It's very easy to get somebody to pay attention to some 17-year-old kid with aDraco.But in terms of getting people to pay attention to, like, real rappers.that's kind of like a theme in your career at this point too because like you're often creditedwith breathing new life into naz and obviously naws would probably be able to shine with almostany producer but the fact that you and him have become this like duo is kind of insane to a lot ofpeople that shit definitely gave me the energy to just you know parlay the shit right into what

17:16i'm doing with pops like working with somebody around the same age group it's like i'm alreadylocked in i just did six albums with nis so it's like all the knowledge i gained from that boomwe just go on we don't run with itGot you, man, how many wraps have you done that you wrote on that yellow paper?Or have you came home and just scrapped that and just did something different,or was it a few of them you just had to do?I did about shit.I bought 100 of them that was written.

17:48But just I go back and forth.I go on my feeling, you know what I'm saying?I tried to just, at first I was just trying to just get it all.the paper on on the record no audio so I was just doing any any YouTube beatgot you want to just waste this beats I want him yeah whatever and then you knowthen something I guess getting inspired and just go off the top of the head and just goyou know some shit don't fit you know if Acapella a lot of that shit I wroteAcapella don't come out right on the on the beach yeah that's what people ain't understanding like I

18:26You know, a lot of people, you know, hit me and be critiquing, like, man, your, your pop's got to slow down on the beat or whatever the case is.Like, just, you know, rarely I see somebody say some shit like that.But it's like, he wasn't writing the beats for, you know what I mean, however many years, he was writing an a cappella.So the shit flowing.But then it's like, we really literally verse for verse song for song, we just putting these shit together.When he first came home, he's like, like I said, we're just piecing it up.He'd take a rap from here, hook from here.Like, we just piecing the shit up making it work.

18:56hit and I know he could do it because I seeCass do it that ain't got2% of his experienceswe need one of them first day outsand let him goand talk that shitabout his real lifelet him listen to that meat meal joint

19:16that Tee grizzly joint like themfirst day out joints and let him gothat's what we need becausehe gonna goIt's too real.It's like, like I said,I ain't due the time the homie then did.Right?

19:33And I know the thoughts I got in the shit I didn't live.You know, and he'll tell you, you know,we could be driving down the highwayand we could see that shit right through the windshield.We could see the whole yard.We can see the solid board.We can see how it happened in the shower.We can literally see it, right?

19:52Because it was so much of it.So when you put him in that,box to do one of themfirst day out joints where he could justgo for sureand just let him gowe need to hear one of themwe need to hear one of them bro

20:07we don't lock it in we got a lot of shityou're familiar with T. Gersby join rightuh yeah let him hear it let him hear it let himlet him hear that meek meal got a got a onenigga them two songs playing the clubs right nowthese shit's come on the clubsthe club the whole clubI already know that's the moment's

20:25and premier moments in the spot.We need that because we got to do shit, bro.That's why niggas got to really check out the album, though, bro.Like, it's all his handwriting this shit.We did the magazine to go with it.You can get the album through the magazine through this shit.We put a three-song EP in the magazine.That's exclusive to the mag.

20:42So when you order the magazine, you hit the-And so you have to buy the physical CD or the digital download?It's not on streaming services.Right, exactly.Yeah, it did that, you know, just to,this is for this is day-bue album like we always got to that point where we had the momentumsome energy and then he got locked back up so this was likenigger we're gonna go full flares like i'm funding all this shit i'm using my bread i'm using

21:06my producer money my you know what i mean just to like push our movement forward and you know i seethe shit working i see people tapping in they from the youtube comments everything dms niggas likeman i lost my pops or you know i want to get back cool with my pops now because of this shit soyou know what i mean it's just bigger than just the music man the knife iskind of like your logo, huh?Nah, but you see, you gotta remember.That's from the back of the feed.Look.

21:30That's what I was saying.I've seen that back on fit clip.He fucking flashes his waistbandand he got a little knife sticking out.That knife right there, that's real shit.Like that ain't, yo, that's a motherfucking AR-15.Like, literally, this thing was walking around the crib.Like, man, with the joint on, like,

21:51that shit was wild the first couple days just for me.Like, he had just braced.break into a story 6 a.m. 7 a.m.Like talking about shit like he's still on the yard.And for me, like hearing about a motherfuckerhaving to fight 10 niggas off,a nigga trying to stab him and stabbing him.Actually getting stabbed this shit.

22:07That shit is wild to hear, man.Like for a nigga that's in the studio damn there every day for the show.Yeah, so like is that just keeping the knife on you,just like a comfort thing that you feel more comfortable,not letting that go even though you're free-knit?Yeah, I just, I don't know.It just felt naked.Oh, yeah, it worked.

22:24You're scanning the QR codes?Oh, okay, yeah, here you go.You get the album, the full album on the front.Yeah, yeah, yeah.You get the three songs join on the scan here.Oh, this is create.Who put all this together?Man, us, bro.

22:38Literally, we got a team, got our nucleus, bro,and we're pushing.It's creative.Pushing, man, like all ideas,everything is going into this movement right now, man.My best beats, my best ideas, my bread,like I said, it's just,every day.

22:55And like I said,but I told you,I call whackhow fucking early this morning.I'm trying to seeif Pops got locked back up this morning.Is that real?I got like a real,

23:05it's like the psyche.You know, we good?Why do you thought he got like that?So like, basically,my little sister hit me this morning.It's like, you heard from Pops.I'm like, nah.So,

23:15another one of my homies hit meand was like,yo,uh,some,this nigga hit me hit metalk about the,hit me ASAP.

23:23It's about big hit.So I'm thinking some shit that went down, you know what I mean?Long story short, I had a home week.Exactly.I hit whack hit me.Send me the address.Yeah.And I was like, nigga, we're trying to find pops right now.

23:37I'm like, can you look up in the system?We're like, man, I'm going to have my lawyer look this shit up right now.So I hit the whole LA County system.We called the hospitals in Pasadena, nigga.We were owning, how old me?So basically had to do some find my iPhone shit, seeing where his phone was at.I told you what I told you what I thought he had got sent up.I said,

23:54Nick,it was a lonely than my nigga,for sure.I'm out there with my son and everything,but we end up going to where the iPhone shit was.Then we seen his car.His car just parked.I'm like,

24:06listen, bro,I'm thinking these little joints that set him up.They didn't drop this car off in North Hollywood and shit.We out there just like,we can't even leave because if somebody come outto get in the car,we're going to know who,you know what I mean,

24:17whatever happened.This nigga FaceTime in,like maybe 20 minutes into usbeing in North Hollywood.He was having and I'm like, bro, we're supposed to be at, you know what?That nigga told me you think it got me hot as a motherfucker white.What were you doing?Nah.

24:34I hear this phone in the fuckingSo she, so he couldn't needmicrowave and shit.We was all the whole team blow my heart.I think I had my manager.I had the homies.I had everybody up in North Hollywood looking for me.Oh God.

24:47You putting it down like that.They're trying to lock you in there?Yeah.Damn.They was fighting, manWhat the fuck?Yeah, that was a long morningBut I'm gonna be real with you, though, bro.

25:01Wherever you're gonnaPissed up,you gotta let Neff know, bro.Because the nigger needs somewhere to start.You feel me?Nigger needs somewhere to start, bro.So, nigga, we called AT&T.They said that his last call was at 106 a.m.

25:18And then the homie saidthat somebody else called him at 1.000.12 and was like, so I'm thinkingthe worst. I'm like, God damn,but you know what I mean? He wasn't in the hospitals.He wasn't in jail. So I'm like, shit.We had all the, the sub-stations and past the theater.I'm saying, I really like still, like, I'm like,

25:35I'm like, that's a real fear of mine, you know what I mean?He only been all made much.Right.We, the interviews, we, we doing it all just to keep him busy.But yeah, what is your confidence in him behaving himselfversus him doing some wild-ass shit?I mean, this time is like,he's doing this shit.

25:52He's locked in.He'd be at the stool.He had the stew every day.He still be making his little moves and shit,but he makes sure he end up at the stew,and he'd do what he's do.Like, you know, he attracted mad talentto the studio, gang of West Coast,

26:04niggas we fuck with, Killer Twan,Jay Worthy.You know, he got full albums with all these niggas.RJ, like, not an albumfeaturing all them.He got full albums with each of these artistsin the last eight months, bro.Like, he just, she and he inspiring us.

26:18You know how funny, niggas act.Oh, for sure.So for niggas of all.Lock in what you like that.They fucking with you.Shout out the K-boy, the ambient shit.Yeah, you know.Yeah, RJ, that's a nephew good nigga.

26:29Mazzie, that's one of my favorites.Snoop on the album, like,just everybody tapping in, man, showing love and shit, so.You know I love to see him do something with?Who that?Cube.I swear, yeah, that'd be hard.When's the last time Q'd put out a song?

26:45Cube always worked.He put out a song with two short a few years ago.Cube!I was fucking with that shit.We need to make that happen.Top pan.Yeah, I love to see that.So look, man, your last joke, they tell him you did what, six, seven?

27:01Nine.Nine, the last one?Time before that.Feds, you did 15?15.You got like 24.And they said the last one, you come home on a pill.You did three seconds.

27:11You got some time knocked off, right?Yeah, I did a couple three-year joints, too.Oh, in between.Yeah.So all in all how much time he really got down.3030and I'm 36

27:26so like you know what I meanI only had this littlesix years of timewith you're in 36 yearsor like really getting tojust feel the energylike you know what I meanI have like a pops

27:37you know what I meanin my life type shitbut I know what he meanabout likewhen you sit backbecause half of that 30I mean I'd haveprobably out of that 30

27:47at least 30%of that 309 of them yearshe caught that time.Pretty sure you didn't caught some time in there.While you were in there.Yeah, knives, sticking, fights.Shit, you lose time.

28:00You'd be telling me how long he was in the hole for.Now, the first time I did like nine years in the hole.And off the 15, I did nine years in the shoe.Couldn't make it out.You got to stay clean.18 months.I could never make it.But see, now you got to understand, right?

28:21the shoeis a prisonwithin the prisonrightand if you don'trefocus your mindbecause you'll get to a pointwe get in there

28:34and we get all our little shitwe get to survivemake our little chestboardwe do all all this shit we needour little fish lineswe get our little program going rightour little water bagsyou got our shit going

28:44so when you become comfortablewith being in the prisonwithin the prisonand you fuck aroundand parole with that mentality,you don't give a fuck about going back to the regular prison.Because he on, this ain't no 23 and 1.He owned 72 and 1.

29:05He slammed down three days straight,and they might let him go to the yard hour.And part of that hour is getting cuffed up, escorted out, uncuffed,and then cuffed up again.So you might get, what, 40 minutes on that motherfuckeryard when he slammed down?So mentally, a lot of motherfuckers go crazy.A lot of motherfuckers lose it.

29:25You know what I'm saying?They turn into J-Cats.Don't take it hot meds and shit.You said, why?He's going to suicide.Yeah.Your Nick's been suicide and all that.It'll break you.

29:36How did you hold it togetherfor doing nine years like that?Just writing songs, working out.You know what I'm saying?banging.One week.Staying.Staying active.

29:49Like, you know, just I didn't have no time to be bored.Niggas just into too much bullshit.Shit always.It's like spin the cycle.My niggily, should never stop.You know, you numb yourself to holidays.You numb yourself to your kids' birthday.You numb yourself to all of that.

30:06We remove that.We don't even...The only thing make us think about thatis the fool going to be a little better that day.Other than that, you know,a whole motherfucker here being in spite.before we think about it.We don't even do the calendar on the month.

30:25We might do it on the quarter every six months.We don't even pay attention to it no more.Because you hear the situations he was in,my homie big favor, man, insane hit me.Send me a whole book on this thing.This other day, he's like, man, a nigga Chomsy.I was in the fed with him.I was here. I was here.

30:42Texas Syndicate, they tried to put a hit on him.He slaughtered about six-sub-n-n-niggins in the child haul.This other nigga tried to stab him.up in the lodger room. He took his knife. It hit him. He was over here. He said everywhere he went.And I'm reading. This is a crisp. I'm reed. I ain't asking for this shit.You were saying you were stripping, strutping all the crips up.I'm reading. Yeah, I'm reading all this shit. And I'm telling myself, like, bro, he reallya success story. You know what I'm saying? He really a success story. And anybody that could do

31:13something for him to help support, anybody I know, whatever is. Like, do that. BecauseThey counted me out.They really counted him out.He was considered a motherfucker career criminal.You're going to die this motherfucker,or you're going to get out, get killed,or you're going to come back with life.It's real shit.

31:35So for him to be able to travel the world,like, bro, when I see this shit,what I see him, I be like, yeah,that's right, because I mention me.When Game Life said, nigga, let's go.When Ray J gave me my first shotand said, you know, when I was running,with Shug, we was on bullshit.

31:52I never did no music businesswith Shug. My first music businesscome with Ray J. When he said,nigga, I'm gonna give you a shot.From that come sexy, can I?Right? Then Game let me in.Game, the first one, took me over that water.I didn't been over the country with him seven, eight times, right?

32:08So,when I land in London and Amsterdamand Dubai andfucking Rome and Italy, and I'mseeing this shit,it changed my whole outland.look on what I was chasing.And then you get the fucker with certain cats.

32:25You know, and I was trying to keep Yeh right.Me and Yeh, we're a, nigga, we,Elon Musk sent the Jack come get us.That's nuts.You understand what I'm saying?We go to SpaceX and I'm looking at this nigga start rockets from his cell phone.I'm seeing this shit.I'm thinking at the time, bro, I'm up.

32:41I'm up.Now I'm up five, me and six, seven men.I'm a shit.You get around these motherfuckers in Dubai and over here,these cats.You walking in a palace where the nigger floors is goldand the toilets is platinum.And you like, let me get to this.

32:58Where have you actually been and like,what have you gotten to see since you got out?That really stands out to you.Shit.Arizona.Now, you've been in New York?Yeah, yeah, New York.That's a big deal.

33:14New York was a big deal to be.But I got out to Joy.Because it ain't nowhere in the United States like New York.York.Yeah.Yeah, that's,I see you in New York.No, we didn't want to be in a couple times.

33:24I thought he's like out of the country.I ain't been able to go.He ain't,you probably never had a passport.Yeah, that's why I was running.They're not going to lay you up.He didn't get one.I went to Mexico last time.

33:34I got out.On this side.Yeah.Now, let me tell you what's fucked upabout Mexico on our side.You're supposed to needthe passport to go into Mexico.Right.

33:43But if you notice,they don't passport you coming to Mexico.You know why?When they passports you,It's notify our embassy, your citizen is here.So when they don't passports you, there's no record of your motherfucking ass being there.So if it gets weird, if it gets weird, yeah.Now, coming out of there, they ask you for it, right?

34:03But you got your basic idea that'll let you through.And I tell people this shit, you know, whenever I go to another country, I checks in with our embassy.Yeah.Yeah, we let them know your city.Because if a nigga like jurors, he didn't want to jail.You know, we'd be on tour.These niggas go to jail.I go to the embassy, y'all.

34:21I got somebody in jail.They give me an attorney.They go get them.They may give me 24 hours to get them out the country,and all I do, whatever the next country we're going to,I get them to them on tour.So, you got to know how to move.You see some of these artists get over there

34:37and get caught up.Get caught up, for sure.Because they ain't understanding what you're not in the United States.You go to Dubai, get caught with a roach.Nick, you're lying to be there five, ten years.Yeah, that's right.They ain't playing, nigga, they are not playing.Right.

34:52They got facial, you know, they need a passport coming through there.They got facial recognition, everything.They know where you're going, where you're staying, where you didn't book.But it's a big deal with something, bro, need to see.You know what I'm saying?There's no doubt they're going to see it and get to it.And that's been my goal is to create a business outside the music businessthat requires me to be out of the country at least four to six months out of the year.

35:16I mean, because let's be real.what over here we ain't saw.Yeah.We could get back to this.Ah, you just spent 30 days.You and your wife.Y'all was in what Italy and some shit like that.Right?

35:28Total different vibe, right?Wow, that's amazing, yeah.Now, you know what it felt like?You better just walk down the streetand not have to worry about it.Straight up.And you're looking up and far as how I can see.We think New York is something.

35:40It's like New York on steroids.Be able to talk to people.And I say this respectfully.And be to understand how Mexicans feel.because they don't understandnothing you're sayingand you sitting heretrying to find the word

35:53to get them to understandI'm asking the motherfuckerfor five minuteswith a bathroom atthey don't use bathroomthey use toiletbathroom they're likeI'm like

36:05you know I gotta take a pissthey're like oh toilettoilet that you look upfor real like certain shitthey speak real properthey ain't figuring nothing outthey're sorting it outwe're going to sort

36:18You know, sort it out.Right?So it's like, you know, shout out the game,because game, the one exposed me to that.Like, he's the one.And no matter what I do,I just sign some big contracts,you know, overseas with the diaper situation,

36:31no matter what I do,bro, always go get some of that.Because it's him opening my eyesand me being able to meet people.And don't meet.No, that access.Don't be scared to do that.It's everything.

36:42You know that gift we got that we know out,that we see somebody, we holler.Bro, 50% of my businesscame from me just run across somebodyHey man what's up what does it you doand exchange in numbersand me running across somethingand like oh I got somebody to do that

36:58because people generally want to do shit for uswhen they know we come from where we come fromthey're curious about usthey like to talk to usbecause they watch moviesand they read books about cats like usso broeverybody in all know

37:16he's an ex-con he's a street niggiesa gang member. They intrigued by you, bro, and this shit you're doing with your music,like, you're in the industry now. Your son is your son, but you're in the industry.When you were locked up, did you know that this was going to be like what you did when yougot out, or did it kind of become clear to you after the fact?No, this is it. This is my focus. For real, this is it. If it wasn't this, is,man, full speed of head.I'll be having to, like, tell him every day, bro.

37:49And it's crazy because he didn't see Bray, like ESPN licensed one of his songs.Before it was even on DS, still ain't even on DSPs.But, like, he had some, like, Amazon license shit, like, was on a billboard with Amazon in New York Times Square.But it's like, he still got that itch.Like, you know what I mean?This nigga calling me.I got this.I got this.

38:11I'm like, bro, let's just go to the studio, my nigga.I'm telling you.Slow and steady when the race, bro.I'm gonna tell you some real shit.When I came home, and I take the credit for this and I stand on it,I kicked off the whole truck driving for convicts movement.I did that, right?I come on with 99.

38:34Everybody trying to throw me everything.I got to 1995 Honda Accord.Right?All my niggas, you know what they're doing.They laughing.slow and steadywinning the race. I get off into the truckingright from the trucking

38:50I get off into buying me a truckI got off in the auto logisticsI didn't start getting nomusic money to like06everything else was truck moneyand real estate moneyright? My parole

39:06officer I was on high controlSSU you know they sit in front of your housesix months out of the year and you can'tgo 30 miles but dude gave meme a little thing, so I had a 10-day pass.Whatever city of state I was in,I had to go to the police precinct,and then faxed me another.

39:21When I was out to my uncle, Bert Jones,shout out to him, it wasn't for him.I wouldn't have got the opportunity.But I studied to memorize the truck driving bookin the joint.Niggas thought I was tripping.But like you, I was getting tired of the politics,tired of the selective politic.

39:37One minute, this with that,next minute it ain't this with thatbecause of this or that.and then I ain't gonna lie, bro.I'm gonna say it.You start having conversationwith some of these peopleand you be like,

39:51fuck I'm doing it here with this nigga, man.This nigga is much brain.He a homie,but, nigga, it's a whole lot more than me.Where are these other people atthat can enhance me?I'm the broken nigga in my circle.Everybody in my circle,

40:07these niggas got beesand $7,800 million.So I like being that way.because it keeps me reachingbut it also gives me that foundationand support.No 100, we shitI went to Will I Am studio last night

40:20and I went to 1500 or nothing todayI'm like, nigga, I need a warehouseI need a facility with this whole setupfor the videos, for everything we're doingright now, a real, you know, huband shit.I went to Well I am studioabout five years ago

40:33I walked in the bathroomand the motherfucking toilet start talking to me.I'm like, nigga, what the fuck is going?That digger's studio.Did he show you that machine, that clone machine he got back there?That that nigger would have cloned your shoe.They said at Drake's house, all the toilets say,fuck your bitch, you fat motherfucker.

40:51I don't know.I know where I am toilets.Five, six, seven years ago, was talking to a nigga.I ain't never seen those shit like that.Studio was crazy.That green room in the back is crazy.Yeah, exactly.He got that outside air.

41:05You could damn there host a old little concert series.That's a perfect space, bro.Yeah.So that's like, you know, that's where my head is.that like getting us to that point of where we got that facility and we could just do the videosyou want to do you know what i mean do everything in house you got some ideas for his own like youknow the podcast or just whatever chopping it with his homies and shit but yeah what's your thoughtprocess on the podcast then no we got uh well i got some shit called kk career criminal entertainment

41:34and uh it's just all homies and really ain't all homies just all real niggas like crispsbloods, I don't give the fuck who it is.And just tapping in, doing the music, inside and out.And just real niggins shit, like checking paperwork and all that shit.Same way we're doing the prison.Ain't no marks and snitches.Hold on, bro.Hold on.

41:59Hold on, bro.So you telling me, you want to join the exposers checking paperwork.Well, you know what's going to happen to him.They mad at me for checking the paperwork.I tell me, because I'd be like,like, hey, I got the work.I don't want to speak on it, but you want me to speak on it.So I read the work.

42:18Now it's, now is, no, this is what they tell me.Well, why did you have to be the word to say?Nick, I'm reading the work.The work is the work.That's the part.You know what I'm saying?But I'm going to tell you this.I'm going to make it efficient.

42:30I'm going to give you this because you got a lane.We're going to talk off here.But don't wait.You need to do a series on, bro.He hopped with this music.You need to do a TV series on, bro.Straight up.Right now, they won't do that shit.

42:47Yeah.Right now.50.Holla hit boy.Oh, God.Or walking into Netflix yourself.Or I got plugs at Paradigm on Andrew Ruff.The chairman, I put you right with them.

42:58If you know, your money ain't never good with me.You know that.You just try to do it.I won't take it.I'm going to plug you direct.But do a series on, bro.They're going to watch it.The kids are TikToking.

43:09Oh, God.They know who big hit it.That's wild, for sure, for show. I'll be seeingniggas like, man, I'm a young nigga, bro, and I fuck with your pops.That nigga, one of my favorite rappers. I'm like, this shit be mind-blowing, butlike I said, we just, it's all in real time, bro, so just, I ain't know where this shitwas going to really go, but it's like, you know, every day, it was like, cool, let's mash out,let's keep it running, let's move around.

43:33So that brings about a very important question is, how did the gamemixtape come about?I wouldn't call it a mixtape or album yeah I mean we was just making magic manhe just he pulled up I was tired as fuck I was gonna leave I ain't know it's gonna pull upbut when he did I got you know a little boost the energy and we just went inyeah no game hit me and was like man I'm pulling up but don't tell pops I wanted to be a surprisetype of shit you know what I mean so when he pulled it up II'm thinking we was going to do like one joint

44:10and he was going to get on.He's like, nah, nigger, pull another one up,pull another one up.And we just ran.I ain't never seen nobody work like him.No, for sure.He went.That niggas a monster.

44:19Game wolf.A normal night he's going to dothree, four songs anyway.He got up in there with the homie and felt the homie energy.It was like, nigga, fuck it.You already had a relationship with him,or did you just meet him through your son?I was his first time meeting.

44:33Yeah.Game love hip boy, though.Right.He loves shit out of hip,He had a quote in his Vlad interview where he said,what I'm doing with my career,I'm not thinking about money.I'm thinking about building authenticity in the long run.

44:49You look at games career.I mean, he's had a lot of options to do other things.I'm going to keep it all the way funky with you.I ain't don't fuck with a lot of people.Sometimes he'll go over there because of just a relationship.But he did something for you.I've never seen him do.I hit him yesterday.

45:13Solid.I hit the man yesterday, bro.And you need to know this, bro.I want you to know this because in this game,niggas get weird,niggas get the saying weird shit.And you need to know what this man did, right?Right?

45:31I said,uh, did y'all do all the splits or do I need to go get it done?He said,I'm giving all my pub the big.hit. Now, I don't knowif you understand what the fuck thatmean. You reallyunderstand it. That's crazy. Because, nigga, that's your

45:52livelihood.For sure. It's almost unheard. Let me breakit down in the lamest terms.Right? And this is just, for example,50 them things just landedin Nebraska. What you want me todo with your cut?Give it all the big hit.

46:12Ain't it your work? Give it all the bro.The nigga told me, bro.I swear to GodYou know, I got to keep up with gamesLook, he saidI said, your splits doneI gave the pub to hitThe nigga told me

46:29And this game don't playYou know he don't play that shitYeah, I'm talkingHe said I gave all my pubThe big hitLet the hot G-holme eatI said, you sure?He said, yeah, I'm sure

46:44ParoNo, that's stupid right thereThere ain't nobodyYou know what I meanNiggas don'tNiggas don'tNiggas don'tNiggas are come

46:52Do the song for freeWon't chargeNone of thatBut to give youThey pubThat's loveMy niggaHow many songs is on there

47:04Nine jointsRightThis isYeahThat's nine jointsOkayThat's20 and nine is

47:11180AnotherFive and nine is 4545A niggaGaget you225%of his publishing

47:21and nonigger in this game did that for nonigger. You need toknow that, bro.Oh God.He did that pub as you stay in this game.You're going to realize, nigga, that's your...All right, for sure. That's what makes him...

47:36Catalog, man, built that catalog. We talk aboutit all that time. Without his pub,he got... He's notdoing what he's doing. For sure.He did that for you, bro.definitely helping us eat and survive, you know what I mean?Yeah.Like everybody who didn't pull it up, bro, like just off the love and just like, you know,

47:55for that for game to come in and want to do a whole album and actually want to put it out.Like the shit happened so fast.I was still, I had to keep listening to the songs like because I usually get months or weeksat least to bang the songs, learn them, see if I want to make tweaks.And we just like, nigga, however this shit's sound, we're running with it.And the response is ill to me.Did it really not get mastered?I mean, it was not

48:17It wasn't a professional masterLike, he said that in one of the sonsYeah, he's probably gettingA quick mixQuick mix, my boy, DavidBut no only that.Nigger, me and this niggagotta have fights

48:27Every time it's video timeYou know, niggaOh yeah, yeah, yeahHe said thatGotta have fights, niggaWhy, he just don't want to do itNick, no, nigga, I'm gonna do itWhat I want to do it,

48:36and that's itAnd that's it, and I ain't doing it yetAnd that's itYou gotta rememberMe and game workLike we workedbecause we both understand our roles.When it comes to some street shit going on,

48:49he'll respect me as his big homie.When it comes to the business, right?He never has a problem of me honoring him as my bossbecause I work for him.And then we work together, right?And you didn't see me and this nigga get out of it.We get out of catching dogs.So to see that nigga roll from that straight into a video?

49:11I said, yeah, he's fucking with you.That nigga's doing shit.don't do,nigga,trust me,I got,what,20,

49:18I got 12 inwith him.Nick,I didn't seeit all,been to withall arguments.I'm talking

49:24about at theairport,bro,where you at?Man shit.Fuck that show.Niggas,500,000.

49:34Nick,I'm playing a videogame right now.I'm playing,niggas,cancel it,tell him,we scared.

49:39This, bro,attitude.So for himto do what he did,come in,bang,out nine, ten joints, roll right,do the motherfucking video,

49:49give you all the pub.The nigger fuck with you genuinely, bro.I don't let nobody tell you different.I can't say thank you enough, homie, just for sharingthe platform and, you know what I mean?Just embracing pops on that level, man,because the shit ain't, you know what I mean?It's been a real fight just pushing this shit forward, man.

50:06Yeah.What's that like for you, like, havingworked with such big artists over the years,going back to your roots and workingwith somebody that you have like a purely organic relationship with where you know you obviouslyhave to fight for every little look or every every placement every feature etc like working withthe artist who's kind of from the ground up like how does that feel for you as a creative man this shit isuh it's empowering it's freeing for real man because i'm not i'm not really chasing nothing i'm just

50:33literally working with my pops we doing the illish shit we can in the moment letting it fly andjust letting you know what I mean the shit's stand where it's staying like we ain't trying to fake likewe on some level or say we better than this or that.We're just, niggins doing the shit we doand it's working to some degree.You still at the spot?Yeah.What I'm gonna do when Stunner come in town.

50:55I'm gonna hear Stunner tonight.And now we're gonna get bro one of them exclusive stunter intros.Oh God, we need that for sure.No, no, no, no.He didn't even hit burn.No, no, no, no.One thing about Stunner.Stunner bought that flag.

51:09You know, it wasn't.I was in the fairs with Pete Ditty.I mean, uh,Popper dad.Oh, PD?Yeah, and Bonnie Hunter's B-I-P.He always spoke about blood, no.No, no, him and him and started was real close.

51:20He was supposed to let me with blood.When I first got out, but, you know, what happened?Yeah, yeah, yeah, the homie.We lost the homie.Right after we did that little Wayne, that My Life video,not too long after that,we lost on PD over there knocking a nigga or something.You know, P.D. is, you know, whatever happened.

51:37Rest in peace of the homie.Nah, but I'm going to definitely put that call in.when he come out, gonna pull up,and we're gonna make sure, you know,he linked with the homie and I'm gonna get stunnerto do one of them, one of them,one of them, those classic intros for you, digger.Oh, yeah, I'm God.

51:52That's my word.That's hard.Appreciate that.You've been supporting since he touched, though,for show, you know what I'm?No, every time I've seen him post some of them,reposting and read, I'm saying.First of all, you who you are to me.

52:05You know what I'm saying?And just to let you know Daimu to Daimu.Before I even knew you, Nefko, tell you,you know it was always thatsolid give a fuck what was going onand then meeting you and seeingy'all thing and holling at the homiesG. Wayne and

52:19and gas and just holling at the homiesand seeing how how they speak of you and I got ripslike big fave and you know real Crip niggastapping in just like bro like whackthat niggas a real one and this that anotherand then watching your movementyou know what I'm saying so you know I'm really justdoing what a homie's supposed to do

52:37and we two 10Babies.Two 10 babies, you know what I'm saying?Two 10 babies, you know what I'm saying?This random is here, but I wasplaying for the ponies when I was a kid.After the ponies?We played in the Pekoma.

52:53I got hit by a middle linebacker.That shit made me quit.A big-ass Pekoyama, nigga.I'm like, yo, I'm gonna fuck with this music shit.That's me for a show.Y'all remember you told me you played for the poties.You know, you got to remember likeBig Lalo M. Train, Joe Buda.

53:08Joe Buda was one of the homies.back then little mansix-toe's brim at the keys to the yardinside of that I was 16I was a pump but Joe Budahe lied to listenand you know how serious this ishe let me be part of his

53:22buffing crewyou know you're trying to get part of a crewand they got their systemright? Joe Boodermy name you know Joe Booder's a damn foolright and Joe Buda let mecome in part of his Buffy crewthey got me as strong as a bull back then

53:37but you know it had always beenreal lovewith that, the King manners, you know what I mean, it had always been what it was.You know what I'm saying?So, at the day, it's a lot of history come out from over there.A lot, a lot of history.What's his name?Papa Piru.

53:54Oh, shit, you probably do.No, I think you do.He told him you tapped in with him.Big Day.Oh, yeah, Big Ducking Day?Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.No, them are G-hommies.Yeah, them are G-O-Meet.

54:06Yeah, them are G-in-hmm.You know, and then I hit Adam.You know, Adam definitely supported.He real funny about who come up here, especially last minute notice.He's supportive, you know, of me.You did tell me in advance.I just didn't see the text for the record, so I had to do last minutes.You know, you do like most white people.

54:20I just, I need a couple hours.Accus a black man of doing something.No, okay, I can't sit down and do an interview unless I got a couple hours to get ready for it.That wasn't on me.You're right.You did tell me.You know what I did?I didn't even put it on the text with Laura.

54:33I put it on the text blast with your researcher.Who's my researcher?The homie that do the, uh...With the fishing hands?Hey, Remo, don't Remo sent you a lot of shit.So I put it intensely on therein case you didn't, you forgot.He could do his job.

54:47Okay, but one thing you might not know about.So after N-Words in Parisand all that crazy shit that he had back in the day,he actually has a clip with academicswhere he talks about the fact that he actually kind of like,like put all his homies in a giant fucking mansionand was basically like paying for everything.And you actually ended up going broke off it,

55:06which is kind of a fucking crazy story.I ain't, I had to this.I had that deal with Jimmy got that deal in like 2012.What Jim, Yavin?Jimmy Yavin, yeah, he gave me a label deal.Like, gave me some little M's and shit.And I went and got a crib and put, like, five, six studios in that bitch.Bro, everybody from Travis Scott to Post Malone.

55:25So many niggas was in there before they was even like, Travis with no hair type shit.Like, just young niggas getting to it.But I just was, you know, I was providing a lot of opportunity.And I was also throwing a lot of parties and had a lot of shit going on.So it just kind of got to that point where,I moved to another crib, and I was kind of more getting back to myself and shit, you know,but I didn't have that deal no more.You know what I mean?

55:47I had had that overhead coming in.So basically, I spent the last of my bread renting this crib in Beverly Hills.That's why I had to move to Chalice.I moved to Chalice, saved up my money.I just went back and bought that crib like three months ago, Beverly Hills.I seen you went back and brought up.Was that the crib you had to move out of?Yeah, you went back and brought up.

56:05Yeah, you went to brought that shit for sure, yeah.But that's interesting to me.Because, like, as a producer especially, you're going to become successful from basically having no fucking social life a large percentage of the time and just being locked in, working.A lot of people don't recognize that or talk about that, that if you want to be a success as a rapper, as a producer, whatever, you have to kind of be willing to, like, sacrifice a lot of normal person time doing shit.And then once you achieve success, it becomes even more of a challenge because you got people inviting you to every fucking party and everything.Just that access, man.It's crazy because even in high school, bro,I never was going to parties and shit,

56:43and I was conscious of it.I wasn't just on some square shit.It was more so like, nigga,I'm about to go make this musicbecause when I turn up,I really want to be able to do exactlywhat the fuck I want to do.And that's what happened.

56:54That's what happened, you know what I mean?I got to 24, 25, got some M's and just like,cool, I'm going to put all the homies on.And we're finer, you know what I mean?I just thought it was, yeah, exactly.So it's like, you know, I ain't had that guythat pops was locked up.You know what I mean?

57:07I had an uncle who was in a successful group early in my life,but that changed around for him too,so I didn't really have the information like that.But it just was like, you know, I feel like, man,I mean, I'm way more up than I ever been right nowjust as far as I would say respect, you know what I mean,just financially, just all the shit I'm doing.And I had to go through that.

57:27I had to prepare.Pops was out around 2014.We did a song that G unit went and took the hook and the beat and everythingand just like made their own version.They just snatched that shit.They didn't make any.attempt to...Nah, they just snatched it.

57:39You know what I mean?So we had some...I mean, shit, they got the instrumental.And, nigga, we landed in New York to do some promo, go on sway and fuck with differentniggas.And we turned the radio on.We thinking it's our version.My beat playing, then the G-unit version was playing.

57:53And it was just like, damn.Like, they really just kind of, you know what I mean?Took that whole little moment and ran with it.So we ever meet Kay Slate?I don't think so.Never?Damn.I don't think so.

58:01But so you hadn't actually, like, locked in the beat with the producer and shit yet at that point?That was my, it was my beat.It was on the Interscope, yeahSo how were they able to just take it then?I mean, they didn't put it on streaming platformsAnd those shitThey just like it was just like they put it on radioThough they did a small like whatever

58:17Because radio was playingI'm surprised they didn't double back and just try toYou were still on interscope back then?Not for sure, I was.They were still on InterscopeI don't know why they, I don't know gameBut he said that was kind of like the last thingthat we ever really saw GUNA do

58:29It's just wrong ass time agoNo, but this is way after thatThis is like 2014Yeah but gamegame came out in 2005.No, no, no.The actual, it was over with,that's when they dropped that album

58:45and only did 99,000. Remember that shit?And back then, that was horrible.Right, right, right.And it was, you know, it was...Sounds pretty good these days.No, these days are incredible right now.That was for sure.Hey, I see these numbers now.

58:56It was crazy.Yeah.That means that like a billion peoplehad to listen to it on streamingin order to get to like 100,000 streams.It's different.But listen, everybody, check this out, man.The truth is in my...

59:07My eyes, this shit is very different.It's high quality.You spent some money on this shit.You know what I'm saying?You got, you know, you scan it.There's a whole album.Extra songs in here.Gia LoHurdy, you know, the G-Homie.

59:24Definitely go copy these CDs.Matter of fact, where could they?Man, they can go on his website, big hit noopit.com.You order the CD or get the digital download.You know what I mean?You can order the magazine.All his.merch he like literally hand-drawn

59:39that shirt he got on right now like he made thatshirt he'd be on some creative shit every dayout even just behind the music like hemaking shit he doing all typeof shit so it's like we just staying creativebro and yeah big hityou got merch the CDthe book

59:55you could probably buy a bundle rightyeah for sure for sure yeah there go manbig hit noopit.com man I'm gonna tell you listenman you never knowsomebody gonna become andthis type of shitand a nice glass.You didn't look up and they didn't turn it into something else.

01:00:14Now you got something that's worth something.That's the fact.Yeah, for sure.And the fact that it's more exclusive than we are accustomed to these daysbecause it's not on DSPs.It's not on streaming platforms because I just felt like it's too special to meto just like give it out, you know what I mean,in that type of manner.

01:00:30And it's like, you know, I really want people to come into his worldget to know him as an artist and as a person.So that's why I'm investing in this shit.and then we're moving, you know what I mean, how we're moving.It's crazy when you think about it too, because most, you know,younger rappers or producers in hip hop, like, they don't, they're not like on a,they're not really willing to put out their dad or whatever like that.Or like, you'll hear about people in the music industry who will tell a rapper,

01:00:54a young rapper, don't take pictures with old heads because it's going to make you lookold and it's going to kind of like dilute your image and stuff.So that's why I feel like it's extra bold on your part.And the fact that it actually is working is kind of like extra.impressive. But not only that, you know, it's his father and his dad. And, you know, that's one thing.But his dad is a pillar amongst our foundation when it comes to this thing we stand on. You know whatI'm saying? And when you look at it, a lot of the up-and-coming artists, artists have been aroundthat represent this thing, we represent, right? They want to do music with hit boy. And to be, them to be able to meet pop,

01:01:37to shake his head.Don't get it fucked up.And they'll all tell youfrom the RJs, from the YGs,the games, anybody, right?It's an honor to shakesomebody's handthat you know helped pay the way

01:01:52for the thing you're standing for and representing.You know what I mean?And then with him,it's an honor to shake their handbecause he didn't bust down,did burpees,listen to their music.Their music probably didn't help him

01:02:05get through something.you know what I'm saying?So it's going both ways.You know what I'm saying?So, you know, I'm just, I'm happy though.Listen, man, what you're doing and what you've doneand the opportunities you're giving pops, salute.Nobody's having, nobody haven't done that, bro.

01:02:24I appreciate that.You know what I'm saying?Nobody haven't done that.You know what I'm saying?You got my word, bro.It was like that prior to, but it's double like that.Anything ever.You know what I'm saying?

01:02:35you know I'm in stand in front of that bed for nefwhack thereneff coming homeyou know what I'm saying you got my word on thatyou know what I'm saying sokeep doing what you doing mankeep up the good work you got all myyou know anytime you call me about anything

01:02:53anything I could do I'm gonna doI'm gonna take this the clubhouse we're gonna doa listener session you know G Wayneand gas them on there we got you know I got a community50,000 on there I see you sureYeah, so we're going to pin the links up.I'm going to pin the links up.We're going to do all that.

01:03:10We're going to pump it out there and do everything we could do.You know, I didn't realize that much like Travis Barker,you're on the short list of superstars to emerge out of Fontana.Yeah, exactly.I mean, really, I stay in Pasadena Longwood.Yeah, I see that too.Yeah, and I, but.Your mama must have took you that way.

01:03:27Oh, yeah, for sure.Yeah, yeah.Yeah, she was trying to get that.Definitely.Like, you know what I mean?She drilled back to my whole life.Like, you don't want to end up in there.like your pop swoop-ty-whoop.

01:03:36Like so, you know what I mean?I always just had this mind where it's like,I'm gonna just lock in and do some productiveshit, you know what I mean?But think about it.Hey, Adam, and heknow this. You know how many motherfuckerslook up in their son on the yard

01:03:49with him?Mm-hmm. Yeah.So that's a good thing that it worked in reverse.He looked up in his daddyin the studio with him.I mean, it's a rare dudewho's able to,it's kind of like a rare thing to be able to

01:04:01sort of like have your dadgive you advice and tell you to stay awayfrom certain things and for the son to actually take the advice and then be successful with thatadvice like because i'm sure you had plenty of temptation to get into bullshit and whatnot every everynigga i went to school with in pasadena like for the most part my my close nucleus is locked upliterally dead you know what i mean or not doing a whole lot so it's just like man i'm glad i wasable to get out to the eye i got away from all like my the nucleus of people i was around thatstart banging all them niggies turned out to be bloods or crips and

01:04:34just like, you know what I mean, just going on a different route.So, man, this whole shit, I be, it's like I got an epiphany every day.Like, damn, that's why this situation happened.Like, me and Pops, we both had to go through our shit to, like, meet at this point right now.Did you fear that, bro?When you was locked up, calling out there and hearing your son, then got put on the hood?Or was you pushing the line, you niggas bet not put my son on the hood?Yeah, nah, that wasn't going to happen.

01:05:02Yeah, I ain't, yeah.Yeah, I was, I would have been able to pay for that.I would say, wait, fuck that.I don't want, bro.Listen, we know, you got to remember, man, we can't tell you,we're lucky to survive that shit.You know, we talk about it.I hear the stories, bro.

01:05:23I be in there mind-blown.Yeah, bro.Yeah, for sure.We're lucky to survive that, and we don't, man, we don't admit some of the degradingshit we gotta go through stripping niggas down and squad to besaying to you when you were in the basement and shit who the police yeah oh shitall kind of shit uh you know the warden used to come through like just time me you knowlook at the monkey or you know yeah yeah yeah they do that cut your ears off this shit like that

01:05:57you know hi jemail oh yeah you know i took off on the police the solid dad they put meThey put me in the padded room after about a day and a half.Bud naked.You butt naked.Nick, they hit me with the, about a day and a half.I didn't know where I was at.Shout out to a little man from six dudes.He shut everything down and made them bring me out.

01:06:19What's the shit happened with him?Crack your ribs and shit, broke your ribs.Oh, yeah, they, they killed me in that motherfucking flatline.Oh, you flatline in there?Yeah, they, I fought like 12 sheriffs.You know, theyIn the county jail, they...Yeah, they're gonna keep coming.

01:06:35They shit, I know.They had me strapped down on the bed,six police slurs on each side,just holding my mouth, holding my nose.You know what I'm saying?Just to the last breath,niggas, like, so I went out.I held my, you know, I couldn't breathe.

01:06:54Like, shackled up, and I woke up,probably shackled like this.They knocked me out again.I woke up, shackled up, shackled up.like this.They knocked me out again.Then I was shackled like thisthe last time.

01:07:09And that's when theyhad their mouth.They told me,nigga, dog, nigga.He's whispering to my ear.Telling me to die.That's why I'm glad, niggas, like,four-leaf, booked their ass for three,

01:07:22four million.You know what I'm saying?You said you're suing them, right?I'm kicked.Not yet.I mean, I'm trying to figure it out.I'm trying to.I'm not saying.

01:07:31Why would they do that to you?That specific scenario you're describing right there.Like what prompted?He fought 12 shares.Now, we was in there and basically we was going, like in the county jail,it'd take you like a week to get a bed back then.And we just moving from sale to sale to sale to cell,to sell, like just days just standing up, like, just delirious.

01:07:54And I'm like telling niggas like, man, motherfuckers on the floor just,just can't run.It's like a sardine.sleep. I'm standing up sleeping. I'm like,when the police come here, honey,we're going to tell him we will need a fucking bed,my nigga. Like, we're not infucking Mexico, honey. Like, message's on the

01:08:10floor, and you're pissing all. Like,goddamn, nigga, we're in America.You know what I'm saying? Like, and I told him, brother,when he opened this door up, honey, we're going to demandto see the fucking captain, honey,and we're going to go hard.And oneone nigga was a ride with me.

01:08:26Only one.My nigga was madded up. He was sleepingon the floor. It's like, she was like a boxHe was just sitting there sleep for daysLike he wouldn't eat his food or nothing, right?I'm like waking this nigga like eat broLike, you get your ass upNiggin' like we're trying to fight

01:08:40Nick the next time he comes to this motherfuckerWe're gonna get out with the policeAnd he got upEverybody else stood backAnd police tried to slide the food inAnd close the door and lock the doorAnd I just kicked the doorFuck that, I need to talk to the cabin

01:08:53You know what I'm saying? Where the cabin at?You know what I'm saying?Your fucking nose onGod damn wallYou know what I'm saying?I wasn't doing none of that.You tried to mash my face on the wall.I got off on him.

01:09:06And they all came and, you know, it was just nonstop.It took 12 of them to get me down.Did they try to get your other charges?They just let it ride as what they did to you?Nah, they hit me out in the basement like a week.I woke up in the basement of the USC Medical Center.And the doctor was telling me basically,damn, nigga, you made you.

01:09:28you flat line.And I'm like, well, I had a tube down my throat.I was like this.Cuffs was in, like, my skin was swollen up over to pinch my nerves.I couldn't feel my arms on my legs because it's stuck.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Like about a week, I was in that motherfucker.So the doctor said, man, if you want to make it out of here alive,

01:09:51you better not, you don't remember nothing.Like, you understand?Like, yeah, went out, police came in, like,around me like you you remember what happened to you I'm like now you sure likethey left out came back with the cameras like yeah today is such a such we'llknow we got an inmate this and that you know the regular drag like it was in theregular situation so how the doctor knew that bro he must have heard himno he he yeah he he he had seen some shit yeah that's what I used to do is take him in

01:10:25that basement and if you know whyYou don't come out.You don't come out.Yeah.And they killed a lot of people, my nigga, and they killed me shit.I mean, like you said, somebody's praying for you, you know what I'm saying?Because a nigga flatline.Y'all I know that fucks you up when you hear that.

01:10:44Nah, that shit is insane, bro.I hear every story.You know what I mean?That shit just be, I can't even fathom living through that shit.That's why we don't want you to go through that shit.Yeah.We did all that niggas.He did all that.

01:10:58you don't need to none of that everything that love him gonna love you anyway out of thepolitics of hell is it hard for you to completely just you know snap change your life and justlive on the straight and narrow or like what does that like for you at this point especiallygiven that you have so many opportunities right in front of you I mean the opportunities islike still like a fairy tale you know what I'm saying at the end ofof the day, it's like, I don't know, it wasn't no rehabilitation in there.So, motherfucker, like, stuck in his ways.Myfucker got worse, so then niggas didn't go to jail and get rehabilitated.

01:11:43Like, you just became a smarter criminal, a harder criminal, you know what I'm saying?Calus, just, it didn't do shit, but callous my heart.But he is, like, just focused.I got accustomed to a lifestyle.that when, you know, on the street, that a lot of niggas can't get that up.You know what I'm saying?And they'll do anything to keep that up.That lifestyle, my nigga, it's a rush.

01:12:13It's ain't even about, a lot of it ain't even about the money.A lot of niggas, my homie Ray Ray, a nigga, 50 rich, millions.A nigga ain't still in the game.You know, a lot of motherfuckers just like, get out the game, bro.There's a lot of motherfuckers just in the game.It's not even about the money no more.It's the rush.It's a lifestyle

01:12:30And that's whatI was able toTry to break out of thatStop giving the fuck about itWhen I found my inner peaceBecauseYou gotta rememberI got all the toys

01:12:40The low ridersThe hogsThe bikesTo all this shitButAnd it's like he saidIt's that rushTo just

01:12:47Make it happenLikeYou knowIt's something about itBut what made meFind my inner peaceWas overseasI want

01:12:57My goalthis yearis to be able to buy a spot in Londonbecause I'm actually operatingoverseas.From London, I can get tothe Paru.They got a train, nigga,

01:13:13and you be underwater, don't even know it.From London, Paris, deuce hours.Then.After them, an hour.You know what I'm saying? It's real shit, right?So,seeing that, like,okay, I did this.

01:13:28We didn't survive, we didn't hustle,we didn't see billions of dollars,we didn't see the good, the bad, all that, right?But I want to, now I want to,I want to be able to see in that pocketand be able to survive and createbusiness over there.You know what I'm saying?

01:13:43Like, that's my rush.You know what I'm saying?I had to find a way of doing it,how to create, what could I do?And that's where the diaper company come from.You know what I'm saying?And my first big contract is in Africa.You know what I'm saying?

01:13:58200 million.Congo.Number one diaper dealerin the Congo.With the government, I own 100%of the diaper company.I was taking trips.I watched American gangster.

01:14:09I'm watching Frank Lucasgo direct.Better product for less price.I'm following our waysthat we know how to distribute.You know that.The only difference now here isguess what?

01:14:21I ain't got to look off my shoulder.Yo, did you just send50 containers over there?Yes, I did.Diapers.Ain't nothing in them boxes.I'm pennies on the dock.I'm direct with the connect.

01:14:34I'd have been to Vietnam,Hong Kong,Guanzal, all these spotswalking in the factories,seeing if they can meet my quota.You know what I'm saying?Floyd reached out to me.Wag, I see what you're doing.

01:14:48I won't end.Won't end on what?Music?No, the diapers.Crazy.I got, you know, what you need?Five, ten million.Like, you know what I'm saying?

01:15:00To get these calls, bro,they just told, you know,they want me to build a motherfucking manufacturing facilityin the Congo.They said, we're going to get his contract.We're going to test you with $30 million.It's crazy how my kid just behaving on your diaper brandand she don't even know how much it would hurt you.

01:15:18Parker.No, Parker, that's my home girl.Get my home girl alone.I can't wait until you meet her.She talks about you like the bad guys in the movie.That's good.You're a Caucasian key.is talking about the black

01:15:30Superman. I want her to meet you so youcan kind of be like humanized. You got a wholelot of black shit going on. It's just because she's seenyou talking on camera and she thinks thatyou seem kind of scary.Yo, but listen,I got 12 months to build a facilityin Congo.

01:15:47In the Congo, bro.First, they said, we're going to give you a trial run with$30 million. After 12 months, we'll bumping up to200 million, but you got our facility here.Nigeria has already called.Can we follow behind?I ain't evenBahrain.

01:16:03You better have a good tour guide.Huh?You better have a good tour guide.I'm all right.Shout out to my brother Frenchie.There's like a lot of...My brother Frenchie is his uncle...There's a lot of corruption if you want to do business out there.

01:16:12Listen, you're always saying that about black folks.No, I'm sorry.It's corruption here with your people.It's notoriously hard to get business done in Africa because of the corruptionwith the government officials and shit like that.I got a team, but once again, somebody I met running my mouth too.We end up doing.doing Shug's first rights, life rights,

01:16:30to a book early 2000s.Zachariah Lee tell me,whack, what I owe you.You don't owe me nothing, do your thing, right?Years later, he's in the Congodoing the military uniforms,50 schools.He got all the contracts.

01:16:48He said, whack, the elections is here,and they want to do women shit for females.You got the diaper cup of me ready to go?Yeah.Come on.Somebody I would just run in my mouth too, bro.He's from Philly.He's a Sunni Muslim.

01:17:05You know what I'm saying?Yeah, it's real shit.So it's just something I was just running my mouth to.I just like how he's able to turn every podcastinto a little bit of a diaper infomercial at a certain point.Well, let me ask you.You tell the story?I like it, though.

01:17:17Let me ask you something.We don't know jumping, right?Yeah.It's your platform, right?Right.The Negro across from you helping you push your platform, right?I don't see color.So when is the white dude going to help push my shit?

01:17:28I'm just listening.I'm giving you a soundboard for you to talk about your diaper company.All right?What's that?You want me to promote your diapers more?I'm down, honestly.Do what you want to do.Whatever you want me to do.

01:17:40You know the beauty part about this shit here?I don't need him.Incredible don't need you.You got Nick Cannon.So no.You definitely don't need it.Nick Cannon is definitely an ambassador.I also feel like I don't have many fans that wear diapers or purchase diapers.

01:17:56Well, that midget you had up in here.So in that way, I don't plan on competing with you.Like, I won 100% I'm not going to get into the diaper game.That's what I'm saying.I'm not going to get into the diaper game.Damn.But I did get us some sponsorships.Shout out to my boy up at Lancaster Chevrolet.

01:18:14I talked to the owner today.You want to talk to us.This episode is going to be sponsored by the Chevrolet dealership?We could definitely do that.He offered all kinds of shit today.New cars and everything.See, he gives us cars.I felt like at the end of all that, you were going to say,

01:18:26that you wanted to do a big hit diaper line or something like a signature diaper line or something.Hey, don't get me wrong if it's laying for the homie to throw his imprint on it. I love to throw it on there and let the home see it cut it.Like hit boy. It was like a perfect name for like a diaper mascot or something like, you know.Hit boy. You know, it's like for a little boy. You know, it's like kind of pull up.Yeah, something like that, you know.Hey, I love to throw the homie that on there. They give him a percentage of that because that don't stop.It's a baby boy on every 11 seconds.man

01:18:53with the red flag diaperspaisleyoh godoh shitman this is a hell of itI liked your segmentappreciate you Adamglad we were able to get one in for sure

01:19:11yeaheverybodyyour truth is in my eyesgo cop itbig hit noopitbig hit noopitdot comthat's NU P-I-D-N-N-B-B-B-W

01:19:21we're going to hold somethingWhen we do this interview, whenever it come out Sunday,I'm going to make sure we run a room all day long on Clubhouse.We're going to run the interview.We'll cover the whoops up.The Roop's cereal just got covered up.We're going to throw the – we're going to throw the –With a different kind of whooping, right?

01:19:40Moops, huh?Whoop cereal?My.Oh, yeah, yeah.My homie from Chicago, he did.Hoops.He doesn't know anything about the whole –Moops.

01:19:48Hey.He hit different up.Yeah.He knows.Oh shit.That's hard.Hey, don't look up top.I don't need you, all right?

01:19:58Oh, man.You know what I'm saying?Hey, let me ask you one question before we go.Oh, man.How many victims did the Cisco Orange calls, bro?What the fuck is that, man?Oh, Cisco.They had a Cisco Orange that make niggas go crazy back today.

01:20:18Man.What's a Cisco orange?Nigger, listen.It was a drink.That shit was like liquid crick.That shit was like liquid shirm.Yeah.Make a motherfucker turn it to that.

01:20:29It's like an orange soda.No way.That boy.No, it was like that.I don't know what the hell I was.I didn't drink it.My motherfucker could drink that.You see his eyes die late?

01:20:40Nigger, what's wrong with you?Nicky, you want to get our own?One more money.It was Cisco orange.Do they sell Cisco still?Yeah, that shit.That shit.That shit.

01:20:50That shit got fans.I was too young.I remember the 40sThey changed that shit too.They changed that shit too.Y'all don't drink, so is it, it tastes different?What motherfuck used to be?That's a real bottle one right here?

01:21:02That's a real bottle.That's a real bottle right here.So we're holding onto it for him.These niggins are just like, pops up.Oh, for real.Yeah.So did it.You respect this brand of Cripping?

01:21:14I mean, I guess, yeah.He's from far, far.Yeah, where he's from?So listen, so the Odie now tastes different from back then?Yeah, it would know.Damn.Is it more water down now?It's water down.

01:21:27So it ain't with it?Because the home is, you know what?It ain't, yeah.It ain't it no more.That's a bottle one?That's a bottle.That's a glass, nigga.Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

01:21:39Plastic joints definitely going to taste different.I'm going to have to bring the shivie out for the home.He's going to go crazy when he's, you beat my shivie?No.You ain't beat the red flag, shibby?No.The whole roof of flag.What is it?

01:21:51It's a tray.Whole roof of flag, the feeder flag, the griller flag, the trucker flag,16 batteries, the real painted flag, no material.I'm not to bring it out.I'm mad to bring it out for the homie let him.God, you got to the pop up, man, niggas.You're going to lose your mind when you see it.That'd be hard.

01:22:10Well, man, I appreciate you pulling up, man.It's all love and respect.For sure.Nick, speaking of a duck hitting me right now.Oh, yeah.Tell me what I said was bright.All right.The Adam and Wax show featuring big hit and hit boy.

01:22:24That was a legendary episode right there.Thank you for setting that up.We're fighting for credit.It's like Cisco and Iber.It's like Cisco and Ibrough.All right.We out west up.Appreciate you, Doug.

01:22:35Woo.

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