Pardon My Take - Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

USA falls short in the NHL All Star Game and we recap a great tournament and final with special guest Canadian Oldie in the booth(00:00:00-00:13:30). Talk some Wemby, robot umps and Oldie stories(00:13:30-00:31:17). Rick Pitino joins us in studio to talk about year 2 at St Johns, coaching guys hard, the documentary he's currently filming, horse racing and more(00:31:17-01:16:49). Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean joins the show to talk about his pick 6, going back to his hometown, Iowa Football and more(01:16:49-01:44:32). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and some more incredible Oldie stories(01:44:32-02:05:20).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have coach Rick Pitino in studio. He stopped by on Wednesday before his game against DePaul talking St. John's little horse racing. We also have Super Bowl, Cooper Dejean.

We're also going to talk some USA Canada, four nations. Max is on vacation after vacation week. So we have guest producer Oldie in the studio. If you tuned in our stream, you saw a lot of oldie. You saw a lot of oldie. So we'll get his thoughts as well. He's from Canada. We flew him in today to watch with us. And then we're going to finish up with Fire Fest of the Week.

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last time an All-Star winner was like, anyone cared. No. You know what? Also, I don't know if we said this, but congratulations to team shack. Yeah. We didn't get them. We should talk about team shack. I know it's been a week, but we finally watched the tape. Team Shaq really put it on in the NBA All-Star game. They were incredible. I can't wait to see the rematch of team Shaq and team Chuck. Oh, come on. And did the NFC win the Pro Bowl?

I don't know, because we boycotted that. OK, because we're just doing all All-Star game talk, because that's where we're at in sports. Who cares about any of these games? All-star baseball. Who can, who can forget what happened last season? Yeah. Who could forget? Truly. I would never forget. Would you? I mean, I, I just remember when the MLB all-star game ended as a tie and everyone was like, good, thankfully this game's over. We can move on. It's an exhibition. We don't care. Who cares Who cares? Right, Hank? Exactly. Preseason football. Should we talk about that? Like, who cares? No, but congratulations to Canada. It's really...

It's all these two in the... He's making the cry face. He's in the behind the glass of Max's seat. Congrats to Canada. My takeaway from this game... Cubs won today. Oh, yeah. There we go. Spring training, yeah. Baseball's back. My takeaway from this game is that Austin Matthews has become too Canadian. And that's why we lost the game. Because he's a Maple Leaf,

and Maple Leafs never win anything. And we saw that, we saw why the Maple Leafs never win anything with Austin Matthews trying to finish in overtime. Just getting Rob Gloves side by Binghamton, who was the best player. Like they used he was a reason why they won the overtime first of all it was an incredible hockey game like just so

well played high intensity for an all-star game and Bittington was just insane in the overtime because the US should have won the all-star game multiple times yes and we would and if they had won the all-star game we would have started the show the exact same way saying, congrats to the U S for winning it all. In the exhibition game. Right. Who cares? Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm looking forward to the Olympics. Yeah. The Olympic. That's what it really does because you know what? International hockey games, a little bit different rosters are going to be a little bit different, more spaced out. Yup. It's like that. That's true international. Taking pictures with memes like he's, you know, in front of the Statue

of Liberty right now. The you're absolutely right. This is just, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, that was game two of a three game series. Well, if they really want it, if they cared about this game, if you can just ask the players on the ice, if they really cared about who won this game, they would have fought in the first period. Agree. And in that type of game, I think the US would win. Exactly. So we do have Oldie here. He has been with us all day.

When I say all day, I mean literally all day. He showed up at the office at 10 a.m. Puck drop wasn't until 730. He is a Canadian, former trash man, blue collar guy. Salt man now. Salt man. Keeping the roads clean. Yeah, doing a little bony

on the side mm-hmm do a little zamboni at they were working for the town oldie how did you see that game give us your thoughts unload your thoughts on that game well I know where I said like before I knew I wasn't nervous about it I knew the boys were gonna bump and grind I called for two like I called for two earlier manifested it I was sitting on the couch What was the final score 3-2? Okay, so you were wrong so I was wrong But I mean if we're counting numbers here, that's only now got to be off by one right Well, I who was the other pickle stick in the corner sitting behind me TJ no titty boy Mark Titus Yeah, titty boy. Yeah, he's he's calling 9 three. Like we're out here playing like a football game or something

Well, I mean like three field like four field goals kicked or something. I don't know Paul business I think he predicted six to right six to he was wrong, too See, so actually the biggest takeaway is that older you were wrong about this game. So I lied I straight-up lie Yeah, yeah, like I'm sitting here telling you guys a whole story about four and two and it ends up being three two Yeah, that's not what happened. Yeah, what did you think about about the way that it ended? MacJesus he won an all-star game turns out He's not the biggest loser for now talk to me when he does it in the Stanley Cup finals See the all-star game wasn't talked about on the podcast. It was four nations

We talked about the four nations and now of a sudden. It's an all-star game familiar with what you're saying Wait was was Russia playing the four nations? Yeah, well you guys brought up the Four Nations, Four Nations like we're the guys like you know what I mean and then all of a sudden now it's an all-star game? Yeah well what happened? What was it? It was an all-star game. Yeah I mean Ovi wasn't playing how serious is this tournament if you're putting the best players out there? Right but maybe you guys weren't drinking enough body armor I don't tell you. That's true you had a lot of body armor. You guys weren't getting the energy was was not there for me guys like I had I had P I had PFT

He don't go with Paulie P out there Stipping around and telling me trying to shake my hand and then he got old Brady there shit. Take her. Yeah Yeah, I don't know no Brandon I don't know what Brandon so I don't know what Brandon. I know Brady. If you didn't watch the stream I give it my highest possible recommendation to go back and watch at least the highlights from the stream we've ever done because oldies like we all do you put on a Performance for the ages. Oh, he has a pussy and he's got It's a side though. I do have the other

Yes something that grows in the front of his legs that when he pulls his jeans up, it looks either like two giant nuts on either side or like the biggest camel toe you've ever. It's a beaver toe. You got it. You got two beaver tails right now. They're not jeans. They'll P I got to stop you there. They're Jennings. Okay. So they're J. Right. Oldie, I got a question for you from, from the Canadian perspective. Like it's your sport. You invented it. Like, do you even get credit for winning your sport? I mean, it's not even in an all star game. Like you should have won. Basically it's like a wash, right? It's like whatever. This is what we do anyways.

Right. Exactly. You can ask Seabass, like, you know what I'm saying? Right. So it doesn't even matter. We've got nothing on that. Yeah. You guys bear. I mean, you barely won in your own sport in an all star game. I know what then the worst part is is like go work any host the four nations to bring us over to Boston And then all of a sudden the boys get slapped around in the home city. That's not nice But I mean we did that to you guys we apologize, but we did it Yeah, yeah, so that's where you won the Stanley Cup right yeah seven yeah Real tough real tough. I can't believe we kept going glove side on him. He loves gloves side He was a guy he said over time. He was that was that was that was incredible But great back and forth but those two gloves saves got the boys juicy on the bench

And I think McJeezus said like enough's enough. Yeah, like this nasty can't be telling I'm like He's gonna be nothing there like and the country did not crumble. We are not the 51st state. Are we the 11th province? I saw some people saying that. Oh, it could be. I reject, I rebel against that. Yeah, but I would put the lines underneath the Canada flag of it too.

The what? The lines. Oh, the lines. The lines. I thought you meant the stripes. No, the stripes, yeah, oh the line the lines right? Yeah, no the stripes. Yeah, you're right. It may be just one you can have Michigan. How about that? Oh, that's a shitty estate you guys own Michigan's so Michigan Michigan Michigan's all right, okay If you have no other 49 states to go to yeah, I mean

What's your favorite state? Ohio, bro. Buckeye nations. Bless you. Okay. Buckeye nation. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't make sense. We don't talk about, we don't say it. We say it again. Do you say that team down south? Yeah. You're so you're a Buckeyes fan because your best friends is Rick Nash growing up. Yeah. Uh, Rick Nash, by the way, we were facetiming with him in between Third period in OT. He confirmed that he first saw Oldies pussy when he was six years old Wow. Yeah, you show me yours. I'll show you mine That was just that was a pussy at that point a boy puts us a change room talk That's kind of you know, I mean the boys do like that's why I played sports

My favorite was before and after the game. So Yandel Schoenjum guy. Our friend Yann showed this video of you. I think it was in the it was in the playoffs, right? Where the Rangers they they flew you out before each game won to get the boys pumped up in the locker room You were like you were the entertainment in the locker room minutes before they went on the ice, right? Yeah. Yeah, I was a fire-up guy I was fire-up guy. It's gotta be That's ten years ago. That's 10 years ago, 2015. They won the President's Cup, first overall in the league, so they had home ice advantage.

Round one, game one, flew me out. Round two, game one, flew me out. Round three, game one, flew me out. Okay, we're sensing a trend here. Here's the kicker. My wife was eight and a half months pregnant and She said you can't go my parents said you can't go everyone's like you can't go Text them back caught on the next flight had gone. Sorry boys

Wife back did you say sorry boys? I gotta go. Oh, I just I was gone I just told I this is the plan. The guy texts me from the Rangers said, Hey, do you mind coming up to fire up the boys in the changer? And before the game I said, absolutely. Yeah. So I, that was it. That was it. I, my parents said no. My old lady said no. Absolute best wife in the world. Yes. Woman. Absolute gem. We fired. Yeah. She married a guy with a pussy. Like she can't beat that, bro. Two for one. That's like a double token, right?

You get to cake and eat it. Kind of both aspects. Yeah, so they flew me in, they flew me in. Yeah, that was a wild ride. I don't know if you saw Kanye West's tweets the other day, but I think one would relate very closely to you. Oh, what would it say? Like if you were born a hermaphrodite,

tell me you wouldn't stick your dick in your own pussy. That's a good point. Uh, possibility. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you think about it, you're sitting around and we'll look at happen, right? What could happen if you're with the boys and then all of a sudden you're solo dolo like now what's up? Right? It's a good point. All right. So you mentioned biz a PFD biz got assaulted today. Uh, as our friend Ryan Whitney said, worse than what the Irish travelers did to him because Fox news ran a clip, they wrote a story on a clip from our podcast on Wednesday saying X team,

Canada star says country will have national emergency if team USA or team loses to us in four nations final, the all-star game and then he got community noted and it said Bissonnette may have played for team Canada as a teenager in under 18 world championships he was far from a star then it could be considered the pinnacle of his career Paul business he never played for Canada again his fame has come post career as a media personality. Brutal. Yeah. But fair fair because community notes. Yeah. On X the everything app. Yeah. It's all happening on it. Yeah. So but yeah it was it was it was a great all star game. It was one of my

favorite all star games. I'll say that much. Yeah I'd say it's probably this year. I'd say top two top two top two not two. I'd say yeah. Sha Chuck Shaq Shaq Chuck one for the ages. Yeah All right, so oldie. We're gonna talk some other sports. You can chime in whenever you want What do you any thoughts on Wemby being out for the year? Oh, man, that's tough That's tough man. That's tough like coming in as rookie big beast like that Not all of a sudden gets what he get a blood clot or something. Yeah blood cotton a show in thumb brosis Yeah shoulder, so they're gonna put him on blood thinners It sucks so bad, and I think he was favorite to win rookie of the year, correct? He was a rookie last year He was a player the yeah

Sorry player there must be some big-ass clots too and as we got very large arms And I immediately think of Chris Bosch. Yeah, he ended up he had an incredible career But he had to retire at the end because of blood clots. Yeah, he ended up he had an incredible career But he had to retire at the end because of blood clots. I thought those might have been in his lungs Yeah, but this is still serious still serious still scary. So hope when he's okay Yeah, it just sucks because I wanted to see when be you know, he's he's having a great year Hank You don't root for injuries, but you also do have a Jaren Jackson defensive player of the year ticket. I do But you also do have a Jaren Jackson defensive player of the year ticket. I do But I don't refer injuries, but don't refer is big of you. It went from plus 2200 to minus like 180

You know the Spurs Probably weren't gonna make the playoffs. I'd still they were they had a chance to you know Maybe get into the sneak into the playing game. It still just sucks I think they might have gotten in the playing game And I was just very much looking forward to watching Chris Paul losing the playoffs and blame it all on him and Rossello. Yeah, and Rossello. Yeah. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be able to do that this year. Yeah, it sucks. It sucks. All right. What other sports is national sports podcast? We probably shouldn't even talked about all star game. MLB does have robot OMS now. I saw that. So they brought that in for the spring training games. Yep. And so there were a couple of challenges.

It has to be, I think the batter or the catcher, I don't know if the pitcher, maybe the pitcher is allowed to challenge a call. So it's not coming from the dugout, which I like. I like the fact that it's on the field and those guys have to make the call and see like, okay, does it really matter if I get the strike called against me? Am I that important to the team to use a a challenge then you have to like tip your cap at the umpire So you have to like say fuck you those bad call in a very classy way Yeah, and then it takes like 10 seconds and they have the Hawkeye thing. I kind of like it Yeah, I I do I do worry as always that when you take away umps you you take away like 50% of the conversations

Guys can have with each other and that goes for refs and Everything in sports if you can't complain about the calls. What are we gonna talk about? It basically be like putting a ban on no discussion about the weather like you can have what small talk can you do if if everything is robots and it's always perfect, but It's kind of cool. Yeah, it is. I think it's going to be fine, especially because I think they're limiting the amount of challenges. Yeah. So it's OK. It's like you get a bonus play like in football when they bring the chains out onto the field.

You get that 10 second pause and then you get to watch it again and then you get to react a second time to it. Maybe what they should have done is they should have made the robot arms, but it should have just been the robot should have just been Joe West. Yeah, that would have been cool. If Joe West, you like that one, one. Oh, yeah, that's a great one. I just clicked on to that I mean now You know Joe West is absolutely not No, you know, he's the worst dump in the league terrible I you have a do you root for the Blue Jays

Yeah, you gotta eat this wheel. That's the only squadron we got. yeah, the Blue Jays. Yeah. Yeah, I watch Blue Jays base I'll believe it's postseason. Yeah, I'm not a ball guy. I'm not a ball guy. Yeah, slow game slow game You're slow very slow. Yeah, like yeah, it's good. It's great. But I mean I said if they had robot arms that it's actually a robot. Yeah behind home plate Cool, yeah, like a the Boston Dynamics dog. Yeah behind home plate Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be sick. Yeah You said I don't I don't like it. It's it's a slow game. It's a bad game, but it's an okay game It's alright. Mm-hmm bottom bottom of the four major sports for sure. We'll rank them

hockey football major sports for sure. What rank them? Hockey, football, then to throw the NBA. Okay. And then we got to drop the MLB. For number four. Can you explain something to us as a Canadian? An MLS. What happened? I didn't do anything there. As a Canadian, what is a Rouge? Rouge? In football. A Rouge? Yeah, Canadian football. You guys have a Rouge, right? It's a way that you can score. Something to do with a punt. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a, I'm not a CFL guy.

Who's your NFL team? Oh, Tampa Bay Bucs and Hays. Oh yeah, that's right. You said that. What about my boy? Yeah. It's out of nowhere. Dude, you can't stop that guy.

My boy's a beast. Evans? Who are you talking about? Mike Evans, dude? Okay, yeah, we didn't know that. The guy's an animal. The guy's an animal. We should have played a guessing game game. I thought you were talking about

Gruden Baker. Oh dude. Yeah. But look at the guys catches. He's caught from Evans. He got from Mayfield. Yeah. Tom Brady. Okay. And then my boy crab stealing Jamis Winston college. And he went 30 for 30. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah. Only quarterback to do that. And here I am still sitting right in going hard. Cause my boy Warren Sapp, you know, Mikey Allstock in the middle pumping guys. Keyshawn Johnson on the outside. Who are we talking about? And then how have I tell him I'm a Bucks fan. You know, some of the boys were from Boston. They're always saying, yeah, cause Brady, cause Brady, mind your business

with Brady I was cheering on when Winston was still throwing picks guys 30 30 30 for 30 who does that? Jamis, obviously he's the only guy to do it Do that stupid record? It's a bad record That was almost as bad as my threes today one net Yeah, not good the only other one I had, the only other sports story is Zach Martin retired, uh, incredible career. I saw this stat chase. Daniel tweeted out Zach Martin finished with more all pros nine than holding penalties. Seven. That's

pretty incredible. That's insane. That also also tells me that he was very good at holding and getting away with it. Yeah. Also Zach Zack Martin is I know that we've been doing this For a long time. We're coming up on a decade and you know, we've been around and we meet people all the time But it's still like always blows my mind when we meet a really good football player really good You know sports player and they're like, oh, yeah, I listen to you guys and we met Zack Martin at the Super Bowl week He's like, yeah, I listen you guys all the time. It's like really you're fucking Zack Martin. Yeah, you probably shouldn't listen. Yeah, you're the man so incredible career Yeah, congrats incredible career. I'm very glad that I don't have to play against you again. Yeah What any other stories what oh no congrats? No, he's absolute weapon

He's loving the boys, but you know what I mean, that's just as it shows you you guys are the Buttes It's not him anymore. He's loving the boys, but you know what I mean that's just as it shows you you guys are the Buttes It's not him anymore. He's done Wrapped up he's putting groceries in the bags for the people at the store a Walmart greeter. I don't know you know He's got to carry on boys. I'd love to stick around right now, but I got so much body flow a body armor We know I'm gonna get you quick piss break Okay, I can't even hold I'm gonna piss my pants here,. I can't do that though. I'm a 40 year old man. I can't do that. Non-alcoholic either. That's a bad look. Give me a couple here. Don't shut her down. Okay. I think it was seven body armors of the flash IVs. Yeah,

it was a lot of body armor. Hey oldie, while you're taking a piss, think of at the end of every show on Friday, we do fire fest. So whatever the worst thing that happened to you this week is, or it could be the last month. All right. All right. Okay. Go take a piss. I love you. I thought he was like, the guy's been here for fucking 13 hours. I thought he was like, you know what? That's it. I've had enough. Yeah. I'm out of here. He has his, his blood type is as close to cocaine as possible. Not that he's doing it. I've had enough. Yeah, I'm out of here He has his his blood type is as close to cocaine as possible. Not that he's doing it. No, that's it He said he's never tried it. He's he says that he's been told his entire life We know what you're like never touch the stuff. Yeah, he's he's an yeah

I'm like he just saw Josh Allen win MVP all the time every single time wild But yeah, he's he was he's an incredible credible dude. I've been specimen I almost puked on the stream because I was laughing so hard when he did the handstand That moment when he when we first saw the side pouch and I was convinced I was just looking at his ball sack Yeah, and I just couldn't he He just like, no, dude. I think his words were, this could go on Disney right now. This isn't his balls. This is like human body.

Nothing wrong with this. Just a couple of, just for the boys. He also brought a bunch of treats for us. And they were all great. That's my other big takeaway from tonight is, Canada, you have fantastic snack foods. Yeah, you do. Unbelievable snack foods.

The coffee flavored chocolate bar, whatever that was called Yeah, the coffee break might be the best candy bar. I've ever had they got the old dress chips They've got the the ketchup chips. He brought Tim bits Tim bits. They've got the the Smarties and their Smarties or chocolate Yeah, I listen an incredible job by Canada when the treats now that oldies not here I mean team Canada deserve to win that that game with the way Bennington played. It was incredible. It was insane.

Yeah. And that was an awesome, awesome hockey. He had three of the best saves I've seen in a long time. Just in overtime. Yeah. And it was like incredible tournament. I hope they do that as often as possible because that was so good for hockey. See you in 2026 though.

Yeah. See you in 2026. We're ready to go. All right. Do we have anything else before we get to our interviews? Ooh, boys. Wow. Yeah. I almost never made it. And believe it, believe it or not, but somebody turned the lights off. I don't know some kind of sick joke, but I had to like, good thing I pissed so many times. I know where the pisser was. I started feeling the top and I heard the metal clang and I knew that was a top where you can flush it down there. I think they're censored lights. I don't think so. Are you a ghost to exist? I believe so. I was out here bumping and grinding. I don't know if

it's just, I don't know if it's this building is two and a half star dump or what's going on. But like he keeps calling this place a two and a half star dump. He was playing hockey at like 10 30 in the morning, having the time of his life. He's like, yeah, I guess it's okay for two and a half star dump out here bumping and grinding Like I want a bigger ceiling fans kids get too hot out there Yeah, so oldie We're just talking about the great snacks that you brought Were there any are there any American snacks that you don't get up in Canada that you really want? Oh

dude the Reese's But the big lava the lava cup That's incredible incredible absolutely big and juicy, bro Mouth isn't like salivating or what's it called? Nice crunch with a nice. Oh, yeah Reese's throw it in there with a quick body armor shaboom shabooms You're ready to rock and roll all night We might just hire you just to read ads

Great gig great gig and then what do I do just go back off and then go on? Yeah, just drink a body armor. Then you come back off You ever had these truly unruly's? Delicious. You love them. Oh you should crush one of those. Yeah for the boys. You want one crushed? Yeah crush one. Crush a truly unruly. Alright I'm coming in? Yeah yeah. Alright I'm back in. See you guys in like 30 seconds don't go anywhere though. We're not going anywhere oh man

Eight percent alcohol 100% delicious. It's the best the absolute best. It's a very blast right there. Yeah Wait go back in and do it on the mic so we can hear you yeah Yeah, don't go anywhere Yeah, don't go anywhere. We know where she goes. Right down the belly there. Okay, now. Oh, all right.

He's back. He's back. He's got to put on his cans. Do we have a Truly Read? No. Oh, we did. Well, we did. We did one during the interviews.

But yeah, Truly Unruly is the absolute best. 8% ABV. Absolutely bomb. Delicious. Gents, I just want to say that I'm so happy that we got to be here. I'm so happy that we got what we did. We did one during the interviews, but yeah truly unruly is the absolute best 8% ABV Absolutely delicious gents. I just want to thank you very much appreciate that you guys didn't take off in that 30 seconds That was real nice that would have sucked of us if we were just gone Like that was a great kid that was a great Canadian move like stick around for the boys. Yeah, don't bounce on him, right? Yeah, like all around for the boys. Don't bounce on them, right? Like, alright, later oldie, these guys are gone, back door. And you guys stuck around like a true, like we're going to speak here, truly unruly, very

blast. You hear that noise? That's the noise of sweetness right there. Oh yeah. Oh truly. In, in four, three, two three two one hatchet There it is folks it's delicious right Excuse me. Oh

I could go now That's a Barry blaster from the pastor right there. All right. Before we do our interviews, tell us real quick. You drive the bony back at home. Yeah. You should drive the bony. Now I'm pushing back snow and the old heavy 40. I bump and grind out there with the fire station to volunteer. Oh nice Yeah, you're a trash man before that is sanitary engineer Credentials you drove the trash truck though. Yeah, I drove the trash truck for 12 years 12 years I used to do rear load so we had two guys bumping and grinding and then I had the solo dolo front end That's a truly burp. I apologize. You can't hide that. Like nothing wants to stay in. It's like so much liquid in there.

It's like, it's like the Gulf of Mexico. It's like the Gulf of America. There you go. A big splash of golf. America just splashing back and forth in the old ring rod there. How would you rate your bony driving? Were you the best? Oh, it's gotta be a solid 8.4. Okay. Okay. I can't sit here and stand the cat's ass because there's going to be bony drivers coming at me. Hot. Yeah, right. Like they're going to be coming up from Canada. They're going to be coming down here in Canada on the bony's crossing the border. Yeah. I'm going to get this boy. I'll show him a real flight. Would parents so complain about your bony driving? I somewhat just keep looking at you like you

don't know what you're doing. But when I'm running flawless, no lines out there, straight, clear ice. Can't beat it, dude. Yeah. When was the last time you got a Tilly Tilly who I used to get into quite a bit. Got a Tilly is a fight for. Yeah. You said that and I didn't know what you were talking about. If no one knows Tilly like wake up bro smell the coffee beans. You're gonna get dropped here son. I don't want to do it to you but you're gonna have no front grill. I don't say to you you might give me a couple sluggers but I'm coming in hot. The reason I ask is because you came here prepared you taped the wrists up tonight just in case you got in one. Well you know how it goes though P. Did you think I do I do did you think you were gonna get in one tonight? Well, you don't know you don't know what happens to work in the corners like that, right?

Right when the boys don't like it quick little slash quick little hack couple maybe you know a little dirty But in yeah, yeah, move or an elbow. You don't like it, right? Yeah Like anybody ever uppercut you right in that pouch and get their hands stuck in there like no Pull their leg out of quicksand. No, no one's got stuck in there yet Yeah, no more tillies not too much crazy. He's played lacrosse used to be able to go the guy if you want Yeah, I mean if I'm looking at you, I I can tell right off the bat That's a guy you don't want to get into tilly with Yeah, and it doesn't matter the guy big small or tall give him a give him a run

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It is head coach of St. John's basketball, Rick Patino. Back in studio, coach, thank you so much for coming back into our office. You have the documentary, guys. The show is out now. You can watch it on Vice. I watched the first episode. It's called Red Storm Rising. It feels like since you were last here, so last year, you guys didn't make the tournament, you now have a show about you, you're the 10th team in the country. Feels like everything,

Patino Ball's starting to work at St. John's, is that fair to say? Yeah, the biggest surprise I've had, it's very tough to pack Madison Square Garden. It's a pro town, as Chicago is, and we're like the 10thth 11th pro team. So I thought we could be competitive this year didn't know how good we would be. You never do with the NIL stuff.

But packing Madison Square Garden with all St. John's fans not half Connecticut or 5000 Villanova the other night was amazing to me. We already moved the seat and hall game from campus to the garden sold 16,000 seats. So that's been the biggest surprise for me and very exciting. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and how much access do these guys have behind the scenes with you? Oh, they're there a couple times I've asked them to leave But they're there they catch it like next episode to leak Brown who's the point guard of the National Championship Connecticut team Goes off crazy and I was in in the other room and I come

in and he goes berserk and they captured the whole thing. So yeah, I mean they got a great clip of you from the other night. Was it the halftime speech? Yes, probably the halftime. You just kind of unloaded on your team. You just let him know everything that was wrong with them. You guys need to toughen the fuck up. I think you said, did you know after you gave that speech, you're like, I nailed that.

No, I wasn't thinking that way. We were down like 10, 12 points. And what's been bothering me the whole year with my team is they counted misses. So we're not the greatest three point shooting team, but if my guys miss a couple of free throws, a couple of threes, they won't take them anymore. And it drives me crazy because they're wide open, everybody's packing the lane on us. And I keep telling them, I told them the other day, if you hear me say, shoot it or kill it, you must shoot the ball. So they kept hanging their heads every time they missed. Every time they missed a free throw, they'd hang their heads.

And it got to a point I said, you guys got to toughen up, man. This is not only a game of basketball, this is a game of life. You guys face a little adversity and you're wilting. It can't be. You gotta be tougher, you gotta learn. It was from the heart, but I was trying to win a game. It was great because I do think that especially in college sports right now with the transfer portal

and NIL, there's a lot of people that are like, hey, tough coaching doesn't really happen as much anymore because guys are getting paid and guys can jump from one school to the next. So I feel like that was a pretty good promo for what you still stand for and your coaching style. And I think there are kids out there that still want that. They want to be coached hard. are the ones that were toughest on you and taught you the most. And today you can be tough on the team, but you can't be tough on them individually in front of the team. If you wanna be tough individually,

you call them in your office, you go one-on-one, and you tell them the way you feel and get feedback. Collectively as a team, you can get after them and they'll be very receptive. Most of them will say, oh, he's not talking about me. He's talking about somebody else. So did you notice a difference? Have you seen anything already since you gave them that speech? Like they missed a shot? Most of them will say, oh, he's not talking about me. Right. He's talking about somebody else. Right. So did you notice a difference?

Have you seen anything already since you gave them that speech? Like they missed a shot? It's been a little bit, about 50% better, but that part of the season, we've had some issues where we've had to correct some major, major flaws in the way we go about things. And today, in the last like 10 games, we've corrected them. They're confident. They're also not about themselves. And today, in the last like 10 games, we've corrected them, they're confident, they're also not about themselves, it is about the team. I don't, only Kadari as a freshman at Syracuse

has experienced the NCAA tournament. And Zuby did at his first year at Kansas, but didn't play at all. Yeah, I also think you're like, your team defense, I love watching you guys play, the Connecticut game, I think it was two weeks ago, was a perfect example where you guys got punched in the mouth.

It was a crazy crowd at stores. You're down, I think you were down like 16, 18 early. And you guys got back in that game, but watching that game, you didn't get back in the game because you started hitting shots. You got back in the game because of defense. You started making everything tough for UConn and then getting back in the game by of defense. You started making everything tough for UConn and then

getting back in the game by shutting them down first, which I don't feel like you see very often anymore. Yeah, well you pick up a stat sheet with us. Sometimes I am just marveled at our guys that were winning the game. The other day against Creighton we were shooting 30 something percent, 50 something percent from the foul line. I think we were poorly from the three point line as well and we're up one. Yeah. Based on turn force turnovers and offensive rebounds. We're a great offensive rebounding team because we miss a lot. Yeah. Yeah. So wait, how do you fix it? Cause I know the watching the first episode, which I, everyone should go watch it because it is really very well done. But I watched

the first episode and there was a lot talking about Kadadari Richmond who's you know your star player and fixing his shot Have you noticed that his shot has gotten better? And how how is that process even work like it gets better in in our player development sessions? But in the game he still goes back to the little hitch that he does have but what we're trying to do more than anything else is give them the confidence to take it and And then more than, I've changed, last time I was here with you, we were talking about the drills we do

for three-point shooting in our player development. So this year, I found that we have five different shooting drills that we do, and we chart each day. And it was the lowest, even lower than Iona, of all the places I've worked. So I realized at that point, we weren't gonna be a great three-point shooting team. So we started working on what Kevin Durant works on,

the mid-range game. And I've gone from a big proponent to a three-point shot, right now we're shooting like almost 68% from about 12 to 15 feet. And we've worked very hard at that, and RJ's gotten great at it, Kadari's great at it. Most of our players can a really really talented at the mid-range game. Yeah. Yeah, you're playing to your strengths right now So it's interesting you mentioned I think you were kind of joking but you get a lot of offensive rebounds because you missed a lot of shots

There are shots though that result in a higher percentage of offensive rebounds aren't there? I think Kelvin Sampson and Houston's the greatest Proponent of that. I mean they are unbelievable offensive rebounding team now He is he does have a better shooting team this year But if you are an average shooting team, which I think we are we're average sometimes with decent We've got to be a great offensive rebounding team and we also have to keep our turnovers down the other day gets Creighton I believe we had five or six turnovers in the game. Yeah, so a quote that you had,

and I love this because it is very coach speak, so I want you to maybe tell me exactly what this means, but you said, nothing changes if nothing changes. I liked it. It's like the standard is the standard. Football guys usually say that. Yes, I stole that from my wife's mother-in-law. Okay.

And it was an Irish expression she got from her mother and who had an Irish brogue and nothing's gonna change if nothing changes. And I tell these guys, I tell Kadari this all the time, I say, Kadari, it's not gonna change, your shot's not gonna change with the 42 minutes with me. If you don't get in the gym like Donovan Mitchell got in the gym every single night to improve his arc,

it's not changing. You're not changing bad habits just by showing up. I said, you've gotta work at that and work at that and work at that. And Donovan certainly did it. And Kadari's not mastered that yet. Yeah, I just love the quote because it's one of those, when you hear it first, you're like, that's kind of dumb.

And then you're like, that's kind of dumb. And then you're like, oh shit, that actually means something. Nothing changes if nothing changes. Yeah, there's two different nothing changes. Two different nothings though. The first nothing is the one you want to change. The second nothing is the work you have to put in to make the nothing change.

And the other thing is I've always believed, coming off of the 2013 championship at Louisville, I was really concerned about the team and we had quite a few players back and somebody to look if it's not broken, stick with your game plan of 2-2-1 to a matchup press. I said, no, you know what? If nothing's broken, break it. You got to make it better because everybody's going to be prepared for it. Everybody's going to steal it. And that's, I believed in it as well. If nothing's broken, don't stay the same, break it and make it better innovate, get creative. And I don't believe in staying the same. You've got to change. And

yeah, as we get closer to tournament, we have to put in five new plays that they're not going to see Yeah, tournament time. Yeah. So there's a stat that I saw earlier today that in the last 13 years, since 2012, there have been two teams that have made the final four. If they're shooting, I believe under 34% from a three, you coach 2012 Louisville shot 31.8 from three, got to the final four 2013 Louisville 33.1 from three got to the final four this year I believe you're at 29.3 so if there's a coach that can get a team that sometimes struggles from the

outside of the final four it would be you do you feel like this team the tournament format do you feel like that sets up nicely for the style of play you guys have well I think I've been blessed with so many different types of teams my 96 championship team I thought my second unit could have won it. We had like seven, eight pros on the team. The 2000, the 87 Providence team was Billy Donovan and a bunch of guys that were just great guys and worked hard, but we had great shooters on the wing. My 2005 team at Louisville was just great shooters on the wing. Neither team was great defensively. Then the two teams you mentioned were great defensively,

struggled a little bit, but they were great off the bounce players, Peyton Siva, Russ Smith, Luke Hancock, they could take you off the bounce. And the same thing is true with RJ Louise with this team, Kadari Richmond, Simeon Wilshere, they can take you off the bounce. So I don't worry about that stat too much as long as we're shooting the two point shot

at a high number, which we are. Yeah. Are you starting to get illusions of grandeur with this team? Cause that was the other thing you said early on. You're like, I don't, I liked it. Cause a lot of coaches won't be as honest as you were. Like, I don't have illusions of grandeur for these guys yet. Like, are they good?

I don't know. We haven't played anyone. We got to find out. So are you starting to think, hey, this team is a dangerous team come March, my post game speech the other night, I asked vice to leave it. And I said, Look, guys, just want to tell you right now. You have done something that I didn't think you could do. I didn't think you could pack Madison Square Garden. I didn't think you could do. I didn't think you could pack Madison Square Garden.

I didn't think it would happen in two years. So all the credit goes to you. You're on top of the Big East, which is amazing. All the credit goes to you. But understand now your life takes on a new meaning. Because now people want more and more and more. And I told them what you guys just repeated about some of the teams I've coached

that weren't super talented team like the 96 team and the sky's the limit, but you must do the following things. And I went through it. You must take your game now to a new level because March Madness is right around the corner. Right. And they were pumped up about it.

I said, but you guys, what you're doing to me, I marvel at. And then I said something. I said, look, I don't know, guys, I'm 72. I'm having a blast. I said, if I'm blessed enough to coach three or four more years, so be it. If I go out this year and you guys make an incredible run,

so be it. But I just want to let you know how gratifying it is to watch you reach these heights. Yeah, yeah. And there is, there's something about Rick Pitino in the second years that you've been able to do. What is that? Because they showed it in the first episode,

but Providence, second year, you go from a 17 and 14 team to a final four, Kentucky, people will think, oh, how can you turn around Kentucky? It's Kentucky, no, they had the death penalty. You guys were ineligible, you turned them around. Louisville, same thing, Iona, and now the second year at St. John. What is it about like the second year that you're able to do this and have these big bounces?

I think you got to develop with a basketball team how much you hate losing. You got to develop that at how much you despise losing. And then when you lose, you're willing to do anything to correct those mistakes. And you build that not that you're a sore loser, but that you got to hate losing inside, you're willing to do anything to correct those mistakes. And you build that, not that you're a sore loser, but that you gotta hate losing. Inside, you've gotta hate to lose. So if you're down 14 with six to go,

you have to have the belief you're gonna come back and win that game because you hate to lose. And I think we instill that. It takes a year to instill that, but these guys feel it right now, and they hate to lose. I told them today, we have DePaul tonight. I said, guys, DePaul can beat anybody in this league. They were up four at Marquette last week, late in the game.

We all saw what Connecticut did to Seton Hall. And I told them, I said, let's take Connecticut as an example. If they would have lost to Seton Hall, and now they have nine or 10 losses, and they lose to us or somebody else, will they go to the tournament 11 and 12, and they're an outstanding team and superbly well-ed? I said, so you have to understand this is just

the beginning right now with five games left. Yeah. This might be a dumb question, but along those same lines, can a team win too much? Like, is it good from a coach's perspective? Obviously you want to win every game you play and every game you coach, but it's useful sometimes to have a bad loss where you can light a fire to their ass right so how do you keep that going if you're on such a great streak and you keep you know beating teams that maybe some people think that you shouldn't be yeah I think it's a great question it happened to me one time in 96 young Chicago kid named Antoine Walker we're playing we were on a run that was incredible.

The average margin of victory, I think, in the SEC at that time was 26 points, and the SEC was very strong back then. So we were killing everybody, and we go into the tournament, we've won every year at a tournament, and I said, boy, I'd love to not win it this year, because we were so invincible beating people.

And Antoine Walker, I took him out of the game, I said, great defense, Twan. Will you keep him in front of you? He said, I did, they didn't switch. He gave me a very honest answer. I said, you're done for the night. And I knew if I kept him out, we'd have a chance of losing.

So, sure enough, one of the Mississippi State players sat on the ground. Now we tried to win the game. We did everything possible, but Twain wasn't gonna play. I forgot his name, he played in the pros, six, seven forward, sat on the ground and shot the ball from the ground with no time and we lost in the finals. And I was happy, I knew at that point

we were gonna win the national championship. Yeah, it just gives the motivation. But with this team, to answer your question, no, we had four losses. We don't need to lose. Right, you don't need that at this point. Yeah, when that shot goes in, did you have to act like you were really upset

in the moment? Yeah, I was going to get all over Antoine. Because Antoine was great to coach. I mean, he drove me crazy because every single day he'd come up to me during practice. He was a trash talker all the time, and he would say, coach, do me a favor. Get Ron Mercer, get Ron off of me. He's gonna lose his confidence

We need him to play well next game put somebody else on me Yeah, he would do that to me the whole practice coach get him off me. You're gonna kill his confidence Yeah, the that early season lost to Baylor I know that you know, you can't comment on it, but you did cover two and a half So thank you for that, but the ball was what upsets me about that. The ball was in his hand. I know and the referee Didn't have a stopwatch didn't take a look at that. I mean you have to do that I know so I'm counting it that we've only had three long. Yeah, I mean in also very weird I mean you're playing in a in like a conference room. Yeah in the ball. Yeah in the ballroom

Yeah, I mean, it's great to play in it, but the the courts are always slippery Yeah, the clock wasn't very well for just it was a great game. I remember why when I was watching the episode I was like I remember sitting on my couch watching this whole game back and forth double overtime like awesome Quick break from coach to talk to you about our friends at Redwood outdoors If you're like me, you've given a lot of thought on how to improve your health and wellness routine this year. I've given a lot of thought. I got to get in better shape, trying to get strong again. So to help elevate your wellness routine, meet our new sponsor, Redwood Outdoors, an experience of transformative benefits of contrast therapy with a sauna and cold plunge.

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You get in that cold plunge three minutes in the cold plunge and you feel juiced up for the day So go right now redwoodoutdoors.com Code take for to save $175. That's redwoodoutdoors.com Code take okay here is back to coach Rick Patino. I have so you've been doing this for a long time. You're no, you know, you're not new to criticism. I want to read some criticism that maybe came from a college basketball expert at Barstool Sports. I want you to comment on it. Okay. This is this is what this person said. This is from, actually I think the day you were hired at St. John's. He said, facilities stink, best players in area leave NYC, Garden doesn't draw, haven't made conference semis since 2000.

How do you fix that? Hire a 70 year old man with no successor plan. Patina will make them a story and draw attention, but this is a stopgap. That is a college basketball quote unquote expert. Look, and not a lot of coaches are coaching in the seventies. You know, I do it because I love it. Tony Bennett just left a brilliant coach. Some people want to keep coaching. I, you know, I, because I sat out two years from the game,

I realized I can't live without it. Being around the guys keeps you young. You're always working out to stay young. You're always doing things. You're active. I already had the experience of retirement for two years and I didn't like it too much. So I think we do have a successor plan.

You know, I think my assistant coach, Stevie Masiello, would be a great succession to me leaving. He was my New York Nick ball boy at age 14. He went with me at Louisville. He was going to have a great team of Manhattan before he left there. He's a New York guy, so I think we have that plan. Now, I don't pick that certainly. Ed Cole, our great athletic director, will pick that. I do think I got a good run in me left yeah you know I hope God willing but but I mean this person said garden doesn't draw you you literally are drawing the garden now yeah that that I am surprised with selling out yeah you know you proved

them wrong in a year and a half yep so Rico Bosco guy he's he's junked his junk take what's his name Rico Bosco no so Rico's junked. What's his name? Rico Bosco. No, so Rico does work with us. We had like a big debate. He's obsessed with this succession plan thing where he's like, well, what are they going to do after Patino leaves in like six or seven years? Like, what does it matter?

If he goes and he has a six, seven year run at St. Johnson, they win. You're not going to take one of the best basketball coaches of all time for those six or seven years? Well, you guys, I'll ask you a question. What's the succession plan at Virginia right now? Right. What's the succession plan at Miami right now? Which, you know, who knows what it is? Right. You don't know the future.

And I will say this, St. John's, the only mistakes they made with ADs or coaches is they, St. John's is a different job. It's an inner city, a commuter school. I believe you got to hire a Northeast person who understands St. John's. You have to understand it because it's different than any place I've ever worked. So it has to be a Northeastern, it has close ties to New York, to the subway alumni. 50% of our season ticket holders are not alumni. Right. So you've got to know that the NIL saved St. John's. Probably the NIL saved DePaul.

Because when you have the NIL now, so it's not about football, it's not about the campus, it's not about, it's about playing in the big East, playing at Madison Square Garden and you're a professional athlete. Yeah. So it helped us immensely. Just promise me this, when Rico Bosco, when you guys make a final four run and he asks for a jumpsuit and jump on the bandwagon, just you got to,

I'll give the tweet to one of your guys on staff and just so you have it. And he'll be like, are you the same guy? Because he will. He'll ask to get a jumpsuit and be like, I always loved Patino. Well, that guy's also a Nate Oates mouthpiece. Yeah, he is.

So whatever. Yeah, he was probably, Nate Oates probably texted Rico, said, do you mind putting this statement out right now? They're worried about St. John's. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So how has that statement from Rico looked in terms of recruiting guys from New York?

Well, to tell you the truth, I don't, we recruit very few guys from New York. Right now, we have Kadari as a transfer from New York. I think he's our really only New Yorker. Jaden Glover lived in New Jersey. He's originally from New York. Right now we have Kadari as a transfer from New York. I think he's our really only New Yorker. Jaden Glover lived in New Jersey. He's originally from New York. I think New York is more attractive away from New York than in New York.

I agree that as somebody who used to live in New York. I look at it and I'm like, I could go back to the village and walk around a little bit, hit up a few bars. The second I get to Midtown, I'm like, nope, going back. Well, I grew up in New York and and I didn't want to stay in New York. I wanted to travel to another campus, another place, and go away to college. So with the NIL, it's changed the game completely.

Now, I like the NIL, and it's like, if you're in Philadelphia 76ers, is your money being spent wisely. They're getting knocked all the time on TV about some of the moves they made. Well, injuries are part of the game, and Bede's been hurt, this guy's been hurt, so the money is not panning out. Where the Oklahoma Thunder, it's really panning out.

Incidentally, I show almost four times a week clips of the Oklahoma Thunder defense to our guys Because I know the pro thing will really excite them the door Yep, and and we show the way they play defense the way they play defense is like college defense Yeah, yeah, they all they're all over people. Yeah, that's a fact So you're you've been accepted back at Kentucky which has to feel good because there's been a long time where that wasn't the case. And now Cal's going through the same thing

where he got booed and he's on the outside. What has it been like with Mark Pope now being there? I think you even got a little criticism for maybe being too pro Kentucky, but I thought it was cool. It was one of those moments like, hey, I had the heights of my success here and I'm finally being welcomed back into Big blue nation. It was a great moment you

know it I made a statement that Kentucky should cheer John Calipari when he goes back they won a national championship and I said because I knew firsthand how much it hurt me being booed by 24,000 people today I understand it going to Louisville but I didn't go from Kentucky to Louisville I went from Kentucky to Celtics to Louisville I understand it but it to Louisville. But I didn't go from Kentucky to Louisville, I went from Kentucky to Celtics to Louisville. I understand it, but it made me feel great being welcomed back. And it wasn't taking a shot at Louisville

because I root for Louisville because they have Peyton Siever on their staff. And I root for my players. I've always rooted for my players. I watch them on TV in the pros, I watch them coaching Mick Cronin in in UCLA Billy Donovan with the Bulls All my guys out there when Travis Ford was with st. Louis Mark Pope now I just Kevin will it at Maryland. I've just roofed for my guys. Yeah. Yeah, so there's a

An update to Joe Lunardi's bracket ology that came out. I think last week Do you pay any attention to that when Joe's this time of year, but he was wrong last year He's usually on the money. Well, he also went to sleep. You're right. Yeah, he went to sleep Yeah, when the brackets came out, he was just like a piece of mouth. No, it was a conference championship Saturday that right was Night he's like going to bed. Yes. What do you mean? That's the most important right now work? Yeah right now I don't think you can pay too much attention to it. Yeah Well, I think sometimes he likes to put in these matchups that catch your eye.

And then you're like, oh, imagine if those teams played. I think he has you guys playing against Kentucky in the round of 32. That would be interesting. I would love it. I'd love it because we got to the 32. We got by the first round. So no, I think Kentucky's probably

a polar opposite basketball team than us. They are a brilliant offensive team. Although we get a lot of assists per game. We have a high number of assists. Kentucky is a five out basketball team. We're not. We're a terrific defensive team, offensive rebounding team. We're great off the bounce. But I would love it, obviously. Can you just promise us one thing that if you do end up playing

against Kentucky in the tournament, you break out the white suit? Can you? They didn't have a white out this year that was disappointing. Can you do the white suit again? I definitely have spent a lot of money I've won one time. Yeah that would be nice. We need to see that yeah. The white suit would be pretty cool break it out for old times sake. I think you should. Wait so we were talking a little bit before but how are your horses doing? So I had a win the other day. I don't own too many of them anymore and my ownership is a lot of guys We own I own

But the one horse I do own a hundred percent of one the other day New York bread with a 92 buyer called Agalos De great named after my agent in Greece And he's become like a little brother to me. And Agalos the Great won, and I was super excited about that. Yeah. That's where do you win? You won at the Pegasus? Aqueduct.

Oh, OK, aqueduct. Yeah. Yeah. That's, I mean, listen. You know, New York bread pots are substantial. So if you have a good New York bread, you can make some money. Yeah. I was in Greece this summer, and I

think I was flying out on the day that you were flying in because it was the what tournament was that that Greece was playing it was I forget but your old team was playing. Yeah. Can you flew? They won the championship punitone. I go slash year. They won the yearly championship. There you go. So I was flying out the day you were flying in. You told us that when we had you on on Kentucky sports radio. So I spent about 30 extra minutes just walking around the terminal. Just seeing if I saw a rep potato come in, like welcoming you to Greece. When you go back to Greece, how do they treat you? Oh, they treat me great. Better than even when I was a coach at Kentucky, the people there just love basketball. What I do is I take two friends of mine and we go to two

different or three different islands for eight days every summer. So last year we went to Milos, Pados and Antipados and we take it is a over 120 islands in Greece. When you go to Greece, Athens is good for one night. Yep, day and a half. Yeah, you go to a party on and you see some of the local sites, but then you go to the islands and that's what makes it fun. Yeah. So what is it about Greece that has such a special basketball culture? You know, most of Europe is all soccer. Soccer's very popular in Greece, but not more popular than basketball.

They rival each other. Because Panathinaikos and Olympiakos, the two great teams, that when they play each other, they put a net around the court. That's how violent it could be. And when we walk in, you'll have 50 police with shields as you walk in the building. So it's one of the fiercest rivalry in all of sports, but they love it and they win a

lot of Euroleague championships. Yeah. So last year you guys obviously didn't make the tournament. Did you think you were right on that bubble and like, hey, we had a chance? How does that work on selection Sunday where you're like, I think maybe we have a chance here. Back in the New York Post said, Johnny's a dancing. We just beat Creighton. We played great. We got to the first time to quarterfinals. We were playing great basketball. Yeah, I was I had a

little darkness of doubt, but everybody else had us in. As it turned, we weren't even close. We weren't even less for out. I was more surprised. Seton Hall had 13 big East winds and they didn't get in so max our producer back there He's a Villanova guy also Italian. He claims and I want to know what you think about this He claims that that Seton Hall st. John's being left out The Big East is an Italian league and that was anti-italian discrimination What do you think? Yeah, 100%. Okay, alright, alright. Yeah, so he was right. After selection Sunday, he's like, this is just anti-Italian

discrimination. They just want to keep the Italians out of the tournament. Yeah, but I think Shaheen has some Italian blood in him too. Yeah, exactly. I do believe that definitely Seton Hall deserved it. I thought what was amazing to me, for the first time, and not because we didn't make it, I thought it was the first time the chair of the committee knew very little about the game of basketball. I'm sure he's a fabulous AD, but I don't understand why they don't have Coach K,

Roy Williams, putting basketball people in on that every year. Guys like Jim Beheim and Roy Williams and Coach K would be happy to be on those committees. And when they're talking about Duke, Syracuse or North Carolina, they leave the room. But to have those guys there, they're looking. And then I just wanted to know, so I called some people on the committee and said, okay, what metrics did you use? What am I missing? Because we were, I think, 29 in the net. I think we were like 18 or 19 in Pomeroy and they all had different metrics that they were using

They weren't all together using the same common denominators. Yeah, so probably had minus five for Italian. Yes Are you in favor of expanding the tournament I am because I don't think it hurts it I don't I don't think it hurts it I think it getting more teams is exciting It's the one thing So when I was your age back in the day starting out as a head coach, we're older than you think We just early 40s just 40. Yeah. Yeah, so I was gonna say 35 36. I appreciate that. Yeah Back then college basketball and college football was on the same level.

The NBA and the NFL were on the same level, starting at this is like 30, 40 years ago. Today, a bad college football game, a mid-May Ohio U playing somebody on a Saturday will out draw an NBA playoff game. Now, is that gambling? Is the football just marketed so much better? I don't know. But the one thing we do have is March Madness. So anything to make it better,

if it's not broken, break it and make it better. And I don't think it hurts anything to have more TV exposure. Yeah. I mean, it is true. Football has completely consumed American culture unlike anything we thought would be possible. And you know, like it's the debate, is the NBA broken? Is Major League Baseball broken? It's like, yeah, maybe they've gone down a little, but I think it's more that the NFL has just taken over everything to a level that we never expected. It blows me away. It really does blow me away.

I'm happy about it in one sense, disappointed in another sense. I'm a Miami Dolphins season ticket holder for those two years I was out, and I had a great time going to the games with my children. The bad thing, what I don't like right now is that I don't see UCLA and USC traveling to go play Penn State and Rutgers and teams like that. It makes no sense to me. The rivalries of UCLA and USC and some of the other programs on the West Coast, to me, I would never be in favor of that.

It's an odd fit for sure. How do you feel with the NIL and Transfer Portal? Because it's funny, you've gone the reverse of some of your contemporaries where Coach K has retired, Tony Bennett, like you mentioned, Bayheim,heim Roy Williams a lot of these guys feel like they've gotten out because of The transfer portal and NIL and having to play a different game You've kind of almost run into the fire and been like I'm ready for it I'm ready like it because I spent 10 years in the pros and to me It's it's almost a carbon copy of the Euro League the Euro League if you sign a player for two years That's a long time. So it's really a one-year contract. You're getting different players every year, and that's the way

it's with us. Now, fortunately for us, we haven't lost our freshmen yet. Our freshmen have come back. So this year we're losing, we're not even looking at a high school basketball player. We're losing Aaron Scott, Kadari Richmond, and Davon Smith. So we're looking for three transfer guys. And I like it. I don't get involved in the financial negotiations of any of that. But if we need more money, I'll call our guy Mike Rapoli and say we need more money.

He's ready to go. Wait, so you're not even looking at any college or high school kids? No, not this year. So if a five-star high school kid calls you up and is like, hey, I know you're not looking for, I want to come to st. John's probably wouldn't take him because I I don't think you can win and win big with high school kids huh I don't I really don't believe it sounds like there's one high school kid that's

really good that you're right now just saying we don't even watch you play yeah this is smart playing hard to get I wish it was true You kind of guy that you would want right that was knocking on your door No, nothing changes if nothing changes So that's interesting point that you just made though Do you think that your time in Greece has made you a better? Like have a leg up in the NIL and transfer world in college basketball So we all make mistakes as we talked you make mistakes in the pros with who you draft you know I tried to convince the years like I begged the New York Knicks to take Donovan

Mitchell I think at six and not at 12 I said look this guy's better than you think he is and they took Frank Nikita or something like that from France I think it was. So you got to really study these guys. First of all, is it just about money? Is that why they're staying in college? Or are they really into winning? Are they going to be part of that I hate to lose attitude? So you got to really study them. You got to talk to their trainers. You got to talk to their assistant coaches that may have moved on. You got to really do your homework and your research on this. And we really do your homework and your research on this. And we really do our homework on all of this.

Yeah, because it does feel like there are teams, it's kind of like free agency in sports where they've won the off season and they've got this transfer and this transfer and the parts just don't fit together. And you're in the G League and you're making 75 to $100,000 or you can go to college and make 600,000 or 400,000 yeah so you're gonna

stay in college but are you getting them for the right reasons okay the money's great and most of these guys what I can appreciate they help out their families they're not spending it on themselves they're really helping out their families they're getting their families into better situations so I'm I'm great with that but I want to make sure we're getting guys that just have that desire, where they really, really inside hate to lose. Yeah, yeah.

And just probably also just think about basketball all the time. What's an appropriate amount of time for like one of your star players to spend actually working on basketball during the course of a week? Well, here's the greatest hypocrisy of it all. I mean, here the guys are making, I hear stories,

I don't believe all of them. They're making it from 1.5 million to 100,000. Now you're gonna tell them they can only work 20 hours a week? Right, mm-hmm. I mean, it's hip. The NCAA, I've always said this about them. They are never proactive.

They're always reactive. Remember the young man from Connecticut, I forgot his name, that he said he was starving at night. The six-foot backh man from Connecticut? I forgot his name that he said he was starving at night the six-foot backboard player I forgot his name, but he said he was starving at night And he didn't have any money for food and now they started a refueling station where now you can have a place 24 hours a day To have food so they reacted to his statement, right? And they're always reacting they're never proactive the fact that we have a 20-hour rule right now

And they're always reacting and never proactive the fact that we have a 20-hour rule right now is absurd now We don't spend 20 hours now this part of the season because we don't want to get injured right but in the beginning in the summertime They give you five hours a week. That's crazy eight hours with which strength I think it's four hours actually four hours of basketball four hours of straight training. That's absurd Yeah, guys are there for the summer to work out, get better, improve it. It's the opposite of the Mamba mentality. I mean, Kobe Bryant, who believes in that, taking it to a new level, and that's that Mamba mentality. And I'm a firm believer in everything Kobe Bryant stood for with that.

Are your conditioning drills just as hard as they used to be? Yeah, but we condition with basketball. I'm not a big suicide guy. I'm not a big guy running on the track. Everything we do is running with a basketball. It's nonstop fast break basketball. And that's the way you should condition. Because basketball is a different form of,

you know, I used to be a runner. I would run six, eight miles a day and triumph at speed. And I'd go into gym and play three on three, and I was exhausted. It's just a different cardiovascular altogether. Yeah, because your teams always are some of the best conditioned teams. I didn't know if getting a little older you didn't take it as hard on them because I would hate to see that.

No, I run the same practices. I think that there's certain players that I give more of a break to like Kadari Richmond. He's not a, he's going to save a lot of his energy for games. He's going to save it. He knows his body. He knows his game. So I'll take him. I said, you're going to a hundred percent. I'll get you out, but you're going a hundred percent.

Right. And he gives it to me. He gives me a hundred percent. I know you don't yell at referees. You were pretty clear about that with us. You've never yelled at a referee Once in a while when you're coaching against like hypothetically Danny Hurley who's given the ref a piece of his mind. Do you feel like you have to step up your game? Maybe occasionally I know you never do it, but you see him doing it and you're like I got it when I ref

I say when I refer When I ref before the game I say this to the three guys who come to shake your hand. I said, I'm gonna tell you right now, referee the game. Don't talk to me, don't talk to him. That's all I say. Because I'm not gonna watch you have debates with him the entire night while the game is going on or we're shooting a free throw.

That's the only thing I'll say to them. I said, ref the game. Can you imagine you guys are Wall Street brokers and you sit in front of your monitor and it's very intense and you're trading stocks and somebody's yelling at you every play. Every trade somebody's yelling at you, that's a bullshit call.

And how are you gonna focus in on trading that stock and matching up the buy and the sell? So I have a problem with referees because they're always, I got a technical foul, first one I think in a couple of years the other day in the Seton Hall game at Seton Hall because the referee was literally having a discussion with Shaheen for over 45 seconds

while they were at a free throw and something they were checking the clock and said, what are you doing? Referee the game. And he gives me a technical, he gives Shaheen a technical. In the pros, they don't do that. The coach will say something to the guy and they just walk away. I wished college officials would do walk away because what's happening if you're listening,

if that referee is listening to that coach, the TV audience, 18,000 people are saying that coach is getting the next call. Yeah. Yeah. yeah, yeah. Does it feel a little bit good though to get a technical? Like bad boys still got it? I would feel good about that. Yeah, I would try to get a technical, just to fire up the guys.

If I got teed up I'd be like fuck that. As long as it doesn't affect the game. We were up 20 at the time so I was good with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Fire up the guys. Like sometimes getting a speeding ticket once every couple years, it's like, yeah you got me. Yeah, yeah.

Get the guys, yeah, going and just being like like look I'm gonna fight for you I'm gonna get a technique maybe get thrown out of a game when was last time you've been thrown out of a game probably Louisville maybe Georgia Tech Herb Sendak I think was my assistant coach and I think we won the game Herb did a great job who's now at Santa Clara yeah why'd you get thrown out? I had I had enough of them Last year during the tournament did you did you watch all the games? I did did you experience it like we did sitting at home on a couch multiple TVs? How what was that like for you? I told Danny when we played them I said you're gonna win it all for a second time

And I thought he had the team we lost 95-90 to them and we played him better than anybody else in the tournament but I thought you know he does a great coaching job and he had outstanding talent I love the Kid Castle I love their bigs small forwards they were a terrific team they scout very well they take away your strengths so I thought they had it to win it a second time. You need some breaks. He didn't need them last year.

But you need breaks to get to a final four and win it all. Were you on the couch watching all the games like that Thursday appointment TV? Yeah, I was. I'm a big fan of March Madness. Big fan. I was upset that we didn't get in. But I said, look, I told the team this year, we blew it because early in the year we had a bad loss against

Michigan. I didn't realize that that would be a quad three or quad four loss. Yeah. Yeah. They just, they didn't have it. Yeah. Yeah. That it is crazy how that can all turn on you depending on who you lose too early. I do love your odds this year though. Love them. I think you got a great team. Thank you. I love them at 30 to one. Not that I know but. We're enamored with your team.

Might have. Financially. Well yeah, I like you guys 30 to one. You thought you went to win a national championship? Yeah. We can laugh about it at Belmont. This was in the beginning of the year? No this was like three or four weeks ago.

Oh okay. It might have been after the Yukon game, because like I said, I watched that whole game, and I was just so impressed with you guys coming, because I thought watching that game, the way Yukon came out, they needed that win, and I was like, this is just a night where St. John's got nothing,

and then you just fought back on that defensive end, getting turnovers. Yeah, they're good with that, you know, and I think, like, I am so worried about tonight's game with DePaul because I really like this coach from DePaul. I think he's excellent. Yeah. I think he gets the most out of them.

They shoot it well. And coaches like that are dangerous because they get their teams, regardless of their record, to play extremely tough basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it's a tough league. All right, I got one last question.

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No. Okay. No one? No one. I've had a lot of contacts with professional teams right now from Europe who would die to have me back. Got it. But the Indiana Hoosiers are looking.

I mean, Indiana is something about the Indiana job. Every name, every big name gets thrown out there. Can I give you my pick? Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to have some people upset at me. If I was the AD at Indiana and am I friendly with this person? Yes I am. Do I have a lot of respect for this person? Yes, I do. But I would immediately, not even interview anybody else, and hire one of the premier coaches in all of college basketball, and that's Chris Beard, from Ole Miss.

I wouldn't even think about another person. He's perfect for that job. He's a tough, hard nose. The years I was sitting out, I got friendly with him because he asked me to, he didn't know me, I didn't know him, to come out and speak to his team. He was at Texas Tech. And I went out and spoke to him,

but I watched two days of practice. And I always judge a coach by his practices. And I have to tell you, those are some of the best practices and meetings with his team that I've ever witnessed. So, I'm a gigantic fan of Chris Beard, and I think he would kill it at Indiana. He'd have him in the top five to seven every single year. Remember, he brought Texas Tech to the championship game,

and could have won it if that young man didn't hit that from Virginia, that corner shot, great shot that he did hit. So he's a superstar, top three coach in my estimation. I would never hire myself for that job. Okay. You would never hire yourself for that job. For Indiana.

Why would Rick Coutinho cross Rick Coutinho? Because I belong at St. John's. Yes. That's a good answer. What's the sign, last question, what's the sign of a bad practice? How quickly can you know that a bad practice is occurring when the players get bored? They don't give a hundred percent attention

Physically and mentally doesn't have to be long. It could be in an hour and 20 minutes It could be an hour when they're all tuned in To the assignment of what the coaches are saying and the coaches insisting coaches are totally engaged in Every single drill and they maximize their engaged in every single drill and they maximize their effort with every single drill. That's a great practice. Okay. I like that. I like that. We have some bad practices here at Bars. Yes. Yes. We got to practice better. And we have coach Gruden now. I don't know if you've seen, but he's on staff, John Gruden. I know John. Yeah. He's the best. Yeah. And he's, he's been giving us the business because we've

had some bad practices. Yeah. There's another guy should be back in the guy. Yeah, and he's been giving us the business because we've had some bad practices. Yeah, there's another guy who should be back in the NFL with that question. Well, we like him here. So maybe a couple more years here and then go back to the NFL. Maybe you'll be part-time in the NFL. Yeah, we enjoy watching football with him.

Yeah, yeah. Well, coach, thank you so much for coming back. We appreciate it. And good luck the rest of the season. 30 to one. Appreciate you having me. Let's do it. Let's make having me. Let's do it. Let's make some magic.

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Okay we now welcome on a very special guest. He is Super Bowl champion, Cooper de Jean. Cooper, first of all thank you. Congratulations, thank you for joining us. It's been what, eight, nine, ten days. Has it fully set in? You just told us you're back in Iowa. Has it fully set in that every time people say your name now, it's Super Bowl champion attached to it? It's set in a little bit, I think. I think I've kind of realized that a little bit now but it's still pretty crazy to me to think about. Yeah. Especially in my

first year getting to win a Super Bowl is pretty crazy. Yeah. Has the hangover gone away yet? It's getting there. It's getting there. Slowly recovering. Slowly recovering. So it's getting there. It's getting there. I'm slowly recovering. Slowly recovering. So it's getting there. Wait, so you're back in Iowa right now. You're from a very small town. What was it like getting ... Was there a parade or anything? I mean, this is... You're the most famous thing that's ever come out of your town, I would assume. Is it weird being back and being like, yeah, you guys watched me on Super Bowl Sunday?

Return an interception for patch were homes to the house like that's got to be kind of crazy. Yeah, there's a there's no parade no parade, but I think I I think I kind of snuck back into town. I don't know if I don't know if anybody knew I was Know I was back. Yeah, no, they know yeah Yeah, they've been set up a perimeter since the Super Bowl So that everybody can know once you got back in there. Yeah That's gotta be awesome though. Yeah, wait, how many people are how many people live in your hometown? Just under just under a thousand. Wow. Yeah Yeah, they know they know are you gonna go to like a basketball game or something? Cuz that's this is is is like a storybook

Like movie thing like small town hero comes back and you're gonna have like an insane welcome and everything Yeah, my brother's got a basketball game on on Thursday Okay, I'll get to uh, we have to go check that out and see what see what kind of reception there is There's for me there. I have a prediction for the reception. I think that the population of your hometown is going to be slightly above 1,000 in like nine months. People are gonna be going nuts. Yeah.

That's such a cool feeling. Oh man, so all right, let's talk about the game real quick. We have some other topics we wanna hit, but the pick six, obviously, I would assume you've watched the replay a bunch, but in the moment it felt like you knew exactly where you were going. It was such a great return. The pick was great, but the return was even better. Did it feel like it slowed down for you in that moment where you just kind of saw everything? Because it was a perfect return. for you in that moment where you just kind of saw everything because you it was a perfect return

yeah i mean i think you know the way because it was a roll out to the right so and and i was catching it coming back the opposite way so it kind of it kind of i kind of just you know fell right into the right lane there and uh when i when i caught the ball everybody was going the opposite way so i got a had some big boys out in front got me some blocks had a how to make some make some mess But yeah, I mean it seems like it it worked almost almost perfectly with with the way I caught the ball and on The way everybody else was running so Yes, we worked out pretty well. How many how many times you watch the replay? So many times you watch the replay? So many times Watch it every time

Yeah, I'm not even I'm not even an Eagles fan I feel like I've scrolled past it probably 50 times on Twitter and just watch it almost every time yeah, and then then there's a they had all the Different like different country broadcasts. Yeah, like their reactions To it too, which was which was cool. Did you have a favorite of those? What's that? Did you have a favorite of those? I think it's like the

It might be like the the Mexican one is pretty yeah It's pretty pretty fun to listen to even though I have no idea what they're saying, but besides my name Yeah, but it's those I mean really all of them are pretty cool to listen to yeah The Japanese ones always get me fired up. They always sound like they're having the best time in the booth. Yeah. Big time. Was there a was there a moment where you thought I'm actually on track to be Super Bowl MVP? I did never think about that, to be honest. I didn't I didn't see that until until after the game.

Or I didn't realize until after the game. Like if I like after that, after that pick, I was probably, I was probably pretty, pretty high on the, on the, on the list to be Superbowl MVP. Um, at that point. Um, but you know, the game Jalen had obviously, right. He, he deserved that, but I didn't even realize that until, until after the game. Um, kind of forgot all about it. Yeah. Yeah. We had some guys that we were watching with that took a flyer in you to win Super Bowl MVP. They were pumped.

They were very, very excited. Jersey Jerry was basically like every single time you guys were on defense, he's like, here comes another pick six and I'm gonna win, you know, Super Bowl MVP with Cooper DeGene. So he was rooting hard for it. Cause one pick six in the Super Bowl, you are like in the discussion almost immediately.

And the game did turn on your pick six. Like that's gotta are like in the discussion almost immediately. And the game did turn on your pick six. Like that's gotta be a cool feeling where it was, it's not only obviously a pick six in Super Bowl, but that was really the moment that it was like, oh shit, the Eagles are gonna kill the Chiefs here. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, we got up, we got up 10-0 and then, you know, being able to, you know, anytime you get a defensive touchdown in any game, like that changes the tide of any game. So especially in a Super Bowl, being able to go up, you know, 17-0 after a defensive touchdown, I mean, that's huge for any team.

I think it just helped us just continue to roll through that game. Yeah. You guys played great defense in that entire game. The week of practice leading up to it. Did you think we've got something here? We can shut down Patrick Mahomes. Did you think it could be that good? I think everybody had confidence that we could put on a good show when we went out there. Everybody had a lot of confidence in us. I don't know if we knew it would be by that large of a margin. But just the week of practice that we had, I think I myself was pretty confident in what

we would be able to do against them defensively. And we didn't even blitz one time. We had, we had some blitzes drawn up, you know, to run. And when you got those guys up front, you know, we never really, never really had to. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. So I got a question in the transition to the NFL. You get to the Eagles, uh, your, you know, first game it was called first month. Nick Sirianni it's fourth and two, it's call it first month, Nick Sirianni, it's fourth and two, it's fourth and three, and you're going for it.

Were you like, wait, I didn't think this was allowed because you came from Iowa, and that was just punt no matter what. Was that a culture shock that had to have been a culture shock? Yeah, it was a little different for me. A little different for me. Being used to just playing field position, um, and, and, you know, having

our, having our defense, you know, just keep, keep their offense pinned back and, you know, flipping the field once, once we make them punt. So it was, uh, it was a little different for me, especially those first few weeks when, um, we're, we're around our own 50 yard line and we're just going for it on fourth and three, fourth and four, whatever it is. And at Iowa, that'd be a no-brainer, like punt. So yeah, it was a little different, but I kind of liked the switch up. Yeah. The aggressive style.

I imagine you like, it's a stupid, obviously this isn't how it works, but you writing back to Iowa of writing a letter being like you guys won't believe what happens here like we don't punt I've discovered crazy going for it There's a different world out there, and it doesn't involve punting, but I that is Iowa and you guys do it so well I also should say You got totally screwed in the Minnesota return. Yep. I remember I had Iowa in that game. I was very upset. That's that's bullshit. I don't know if that's still, I don't know if the super bowl maybe makes it a little easier, but I would still be pissed about that return against Minnesota a couple of years ago. Yeah, I'm definitely still,

so a little upset about, about that one. Yeah. Cause it, it changed, like we could have, it changed our season from, from a 10 win season to an 11 win season. And that, like that puts you in a whole different category, you know, at the university of Iowa, at least. So it was, uh, that was, that was tough for us. Yeah. I was, I was furious as well. Did they tell you what was wrong with that with your fair catch signal?

They said they said when I was running and because I was trying to point at the ball because whenever whenever the ball is like away from the returner, you don't want other guys to to get hit by it. So it's so it's a mouth. So I was trying to point at the ball as I was running. My arm was swinging side to side. And they said they said that counts as a, as a invalid fair catch signal or whatever they said. But that's, that's not even why

they went to review it in the, in the first place, which was the frustrating part. They, they were reviewing it to see if I stepped out of bounds and then they, they came back with that. So it was, uh, I don't know. It was, it was pretty, pretty frustrating. Yeah, it's bullshit. It was bullshit. We'll say it's bullshit And then you go into the draft process were you surprised that the Eagles took you even though you didn't go to Georgia I had I Mean the Eagles were one of the teams who I actually thought I may end up with. I only met, I met with them one time on a top 30 visit there, but I actually thought I might end up there. I didn't know.

I didn't know it'd be the way it happened, but I'm glad it happened the way it happened. Being able to come in with Q and us being two rookies in the same position. I think it, I think it helped us both. It made it easier. Uh, made the transition easier on us both. Yeah. Yeah. Cause there's that famous, oh, there's the famous draft night. We're not famous, but a draft night video where the Rams traded up and they, and the Eagles brass thought that you guys, the Rams were gonna pick you. And so it very well could have been like,

they're like, that's it, we lost Cooper Dejean because they had you circled. That's a crazy sliding doors moment. Like that could have been a completely different career. You would have still been great, but you wouldn't have maybe won a Super Bowl this year. Yeah, yeah, it would have been, definitely would have been a lot different playing out in LA and

Obviously they they had a solid season this year But not being able to win a Super Bowl Would have been tough, but I'm glad it happened the way it happened now obviously I was back then I was pretty pretty frustrated having to sit and wait that long. But I'm glad it happened the way it happened and it all worked out and I'm a Super Bowl champion. So. Yeah, it's pretty good.

And you had a great rookie season too. Who was the hardest guy that you had to cover in the NFL so far? Good question. Thank you. Hardest guy I had to cover probably Puka nakuwa from from the rams. He's he's tough cover. Um I don't think jerry judy's he's a quick dude. Um

Adam thielen adam thielen worked me. Um Then the week we played, we played the Panthers. Um, I learned a lot from that game. He's just a savvy, savvy, retch, veteran guy who, um, he gave me, gave me some good work. It was, uh, that was probably one of my, one of my tougher games going up, going up against him. Yeah. What, uh, so you, you also played obviously other sports in high school. You're a very good basketball player. Was there ever a time when you thought, Hey, I might do basketball instead of football. I also, as an aside, I love whenever the internet finds out like, Oh, Cooper de Jean was really good at basketball. It's like, yeah, he's, he's in the NFL. He's an

incredible athlete. I would expect him to also be good at other high school sports. But was there a moment where you were like, maybe basketball is the thing for me? Yeah, I wanted to play basketball actually coming into high school. I wanted to play basketball in college, but I'm not quite tall enough and I'm kind of built more like a football player. So I've kind of played basketball like I'm a football player. So, and I've kind of played basketball like, like I'm a football player, played downhill and driving to the job, into the hoop and trying to dunk on everybody. Yeah. But I wanted to play basketball, but clearly football, football was the right out, right. Right decision. And I, I found that out after my sophomore year. Yeah.

Started to pick, pick up with, uh, with football recruiting and, and stuff like that. So, um, but I still play basketball every, every once in a while. And it seems like, it seems like it's like every couple of months, my, uh, my basketball highlights will just resurface, um, on, on Twitter, social media somewhere. Yeah. Um, they'll go away for a little bit and then they'll pile it back up. Yeah. I mean, you you you I think it's partially Will Compton's fault, but you do carry a lot of weight for the all white team that he has put together. It's like Coober de Jean is a you're a very important piece to the puzzle. Yeah. It's me and Riley Moss, my boy Riley Moss.

Yeah, yeah. Kind of shocked. We're from outside there. Yeah, because like two years ago when this debate first started to happen, it was like, well, what are we going to do at the outside? Like get Julian Edelman to come back and then have him play corner? And now we've got our, you guys are chess pieces out there, you're white rooks. Yeah, just plug us in there and we're ready to go.

I love it So I had a question for you about the parade because the parade looked like the best time ever Who was the drunkest at the parade? Oh jeez. I mean there was I Probably have to say Nolan Smith. Yep Nolan Smith or Q Quinn yon Mitchell one of those two guys, but I think Nolan probably takes the cake there. I mean, he couldn't even, dude couldn't even walk straight or stand up. Might've seen him throw up one time on the road there, but yeah, it was probably

Nolan. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get hit by a can as well well cuz I saw Howard Roseman got hit by a can yeah, I had a I Had this big ass bud light chain on my Around my neck and I went to I was like throwing beer all over everybody in the crowd and the chain came up And hit me I write my right my I write about my eyebrow So I got a little got a little battle scar there But it's it's all good. It's it's good for the memories Yeah, when you saw how he get the the canned impression the indentation is forehead were you like alright?

He's one of us. He's basically a football guy. Yeah, he took it. He took it like a champ and then He used it used it used it in his, in his speech at the end of the parade, which was, which was, which was funny. But he, he, uh, I think he loved it actually loved having, having the, having the cut across his, his forehead from the parade. Yeah. Yeah. It's a battle scar. We have a, a diehard Philly fan here, Max, even though I just want to say for the record during games when you'd be catching punts Max would freak out because he didn't think that you'd be able to feel the punts clean

I get nervous of all punts punts have to be the highest percentage of turnover play I Did drop one this year, but I didn't didn't lose it don't even remember it All right, Max, what do you got? What questions you got? All right, I have a couple here. First one, I can't believe we haven't gotten to it. Derrick Henry hit, how'd you do that? That didn't make any sense, but it was awesome.

Yeah. What were you feeling? I was just lucky that he didn't start running full speed before I got to him. Otherwise that it would have probably hurt even more. Luckily I caught him right when he was turning around and I was able to pick him up and put him to the ground there. But I mean, he wasn't even moving full speed and that was, I mean, it still hurt me. I still felt it in my neck and my shoulder.

So, but yeah, he's a big ass dude, big ass dude. But luckily he wasn't going full speed. So right after that hit, you also did the big play, Selly, that kind of went off a little bit after that. Can you explain that? I don't, I've wanted to know what it is for a long time and I don't I've wanted to know what it is for a long time and I don't get it It's kind of it's kind of more of a more of an in-house

Yeah, no, I don't the world doesn't need to know I don't need to know Next thing you got fuck you got fucked in the Lebron video Does it does it pitch you off that like two weeks later? You probably would have been like the first person he went on to explain the Lebron video Lebron video Yeah, everyone is sitting courtside I think it's like you AJ Devante and you're at the end of the end of the row You're you can see that you're excited to give him a DAP and he just he just cut you off right before it gets to you Yeah, it was it was it was tough. I'm a Lebron guy too. I'm a huge Lebron fan

so it was it was tough for me, but it's a I Didn't I didn't expect him to to know who I was To be honest, it was a but now I would be there really yeah For a little love but, but it's all good Has he apologized to you for that yet as he reached out and been like hey my bad respect he uh Not to me directly, but he posted something on he commented under some some posts where someone asked me at the Super Bowl, I think and

Apologize or said said something about it apologize or said said something about it. Never meet your heroes. I guess that counts. That counts. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, Dap them up then he realizes it online Dap up. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Any other questions? One last one. Do you event you played mostly nickel this year? Do you eventually want to like move outside or do you? Are you comfortable in your role now in the defense? I I like playing nickel.

I like playing inside being around all the action. Hopefully sometime at some point I can I can move to to one of those every down positions, whether it's outside or whether it's safety, whatever it may be. I hope at some point I can do that and do both maybe. Because I like playing nickel. I like being involved in the run game and the screen game.

I feel like that's a really important position in, in a defense and you can make a huge impact at that position. Max just shook his head. No, he said he doesn't want you to move to safety. Well, that's just the song. The song, the song says you're not a safety. So I, that would ruin, that would ruin the song. Yeah, you're right. It would, it would. Were you the emergency quarterback this year? I was not, I was not.

I was not. That would have been, I would have loved to do that, though. I played a little offense in college, obviously. Played quarterback in high school. I miss slinging it around, especially, I mean, could you imagine just going out there and throwing it to AJ and Devontae and those guys, I mean, that we have on offense have been, would have been crazy.

Yeah. That'd been sweet though. Maybe something to work up towards, like maybe two seasons from now, that's one of your goals, become emergency quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. I have to, I have to talk to, talk to Coach Sirianni about that one. Yeah.

What was the toughest place to play in the big 10 in the big 10? I mean Nebraska. I wouldn't say it was, it was, I don't know how tough it was. It was just like really loud in there. Yeah. Um, um, at Nebraska it's pretty loud, but once, once you get up on them, it gets, it gets a pretty quiet in there and that was us quite a bit of the time there when we were playing there. So, um, I know, uh, we'll, we'll, we'll appreciate that answer there. Um, but now Nebraska is a, it's a fun place to play. to play Especially in a rivalry game and especially when you when you're beating them. Yeah What does your dad say to you after on the field? Cuz that was cool. Like it was cool seeing the I saw the picture you guys everyone get to take pictures with their family in

the Super Bowl trophy it just seemed very Like a really awesome moment to have this your first touchdown in the Super Bowl and then your parents come down What did he say was he like? I can't believe this happened yeah, he was a moment to have your first touchdown in the Super Bowl and then your parents come down. What did he say? Was he like, I can't believe this happened? Yeah, he was someone actually had taken a video of him in the stands when that touchdown happened and like my dad had been my coach like since I was a little kid. So I got, I'd never really seen him get overly excited about a, about a play I made.

He was always trying to keep me humble and things like that. So I, so I saw the video and I'd never seen him get that excited before about a play I made. So that was, that was pretty fun to watch. And then, you know, getting to celebrate with him and my family down on the field after, after the game the game was really cool. Just having them experience that moment with me. My dad and my parents, they both saw how disappointed I was on that first night of the draft. And especially my dad, he came up to me and told me

He said, you know you you remember how disappointed you were On the first night of the draft and and now look look where you are So that was that was a pretty that was a pretty cool moment there, too. Yeah. Yeah, that's a full circle moment Did you say happy birthday? Yeah, it's your birthday too. Jesus. Oh That kind of took a backseat. Yeah, I think after after we won that we won the Super Bowl is It was more like You know, you're you're a Super Bowl champion rather than you know, happy birthday. You're 22 years old now Yeah, yeah

Did you get any text from anybody that just said happy birthday that didn't know that you were playing in the Super Bowl? I anybody that just said happy birthday that didn't know that you were playing in the Super Bowl? Um, I don't think I did. I don't think I did. I got quite a few, so there might be some that I missed, but I don't, I don't think I did, which was, which was good. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got one last question. A row back question. R H O B A C K.com row back.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back calm promo code take We're a big big Dom fans when you got drafted. Did he hit you up right away? He's like listen, I got you my pies on has he called you your has he said your pies on yet? No, he he hasn't. Oh, no, he hasn't but

Big Dom is is probably probably the coolest dude you'll ever meet. Yeah. Yes. I saw you got you guys were with him and at the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. We came and interviewed Lane Johnson. He came and stopped by and he always ends his text to me. My pies on. I'm not Italian, but I appreciate it. Yeah. I'm just honorary with him. So, yeah, he's he's he's one of the coolest dudes I've ever met. And he he literally runs runs the city of Philadelphia. Yeah, it's it's great to great to know a guy like that. Yeah. What was his intro to you like? Did he describe like, hey, I'm big dom.

This is what I do. This is my place. I mean Kinda He He's got some he brought me into his office I remember and it was just telling me all kinds of crazy stories that he's that he's that he's Heard or been a part of since he's been the security head security for for the Eagles and there's some some crazy shit that uh that he's been the head security for the Eagles. And there's some crazy shit that he's done and he's helped guys out with.

So it's good to have a guy like him on your team. He's good at what he does. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Cooper, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Congrats again.

If you're ever in Chicago, come by the office, check us out and uh, we're going to be in Philly for grit week. So we'll see you then. Yeah. Wait, can't wait. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, Cooper. Thank you for your representation. Yes. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah. My four year old son, Chris, he used to think he could only be a quarterback or an offensive coordinator. Now he sees you. He's like, I can be a quarterback. Get him on the outside. All right. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate you guys.

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I try to go through a toll recently you got a text and For like I don't know if it was my balance was down and my card wasn't set up But it didn't like it was going red. it wasn't let me through I had to pay cash So I got a text that was like you know pay your easy pass fee and I clicked it the website looked like the real easy pass website put in my information shout at Bank of America though They were on it. They called me right away. We're like Someone's you know trying to take your credit card information, what's going on? Wait, how did this start?

It started like, I got a text that was like, pay your EZPass. Oh, a text. Your pay your EZPass, whatever balance. But he had happened to have just driven through a toll thing. But I recently had tried to go through, I have an EZPass and it didn't let me through

because of a balance thing. So I thought there was credibility to the text. Wow, so that's a smart scan. Yeah, and again, I get them a lot. Everyone gets them a lot, emails, phishing, whatever it is. And I've never gotten got before and I got got today. Thankfully- How much did you pay? It was like $7. I thought it was a one time- They just stole your credit card, yeah.

And they just stole my credit card. Damn. Dirty. Did you have to get a new one Yeah, Bank of America was like but they were they called me right away. They said suspicious activity was this you I told them They're like, yeah, no, that's a scam Card canceled will send you a new one. Yeah, no free ads, but Bank of America is pretty good at that They'll hit you up and be like, hey, I think this might be a fraud except when they do it when you're buying something like totally normal like one time I shopped at L.o. Bean and

Bank of America called me and they're like your shop You've never bought clothes in your life Sir you bought you bought a sweater Did have it had buttons? Oh, yeah, this is fraud. Oh Take that's brutal. That's the worst feeling cuz you're like you don't get got and you get got That's not nice. That's not nice. Okay back to the Tillys. That's not nice Can we take is there any way we can find or they start googling something like find these guys like they'll tell you these guys I think they do this with everyone. I think I mean you I get him a lot

I get a lot of what the emails are you a lot of random texts like you have their number they texted you right? No, it was automated it read like a Automated yeah, she's or whatever. I'm not received No, damn, that's I'd fight these guys like like I'll meet these guys over the Dan Ryan Express Highway. I've driven that highway Yeah, I'll go these guys. I've been on that highway before he knows where that research so those guys are dead now because oldies gonna go after yeah these guys want to meet tell them to meet me at the bean no yeah the silver I'll go down to that shiny old bean down there get your ass kicked at the bean leave he's lucky doesn't come

st. Patrick's Day in the water is green down here yeah it's not play around big dog style let's go meet with around big dog style. Let's go Meet with the big dog turn the river red Pft your your fire fest my fire fest of the week is that there is an asteroid heading towards earth no Just chill it's uh it's scheduled to hit the the planet Potentially in 2032 and like three days ago. it was a 1% chance. Then a couple of days later, it was 2%. What month? Then a couple of days later, it was 3.1%.

You know what I'll be doing in 2032? What? Chillin'. What month, BFT, is very important? Let me look it up. I'm with you, Hank. Cause it can't be during football season. So I agree with that.

I think what I read was December, which would be, it would be so brutal if your team is good and you're gearing up for a playoff push and then Asteroid. Like this tells me this has like a brown Super Bowl run written all over it and then the Asteroid shows up. This ain't good. So now it's up to 3.1%. The Browns? Yeah, I mean it would be a team that like you wouldn't expect having a Man oh No, no, he just chill get off the Google. Don't worry about it brother. We got you. Yes

We're with your buddies Jim just get off the Google man hang with us for a couple minutes. Yep. Yeah They said that it's gonna hit either someplace in Africa, maybe someplace in South America. My money's on the water. Yeah. That thing's going to hit the water. Absolutely. There's more water than land. Yeah. Good point. We just see, we send Bennington out there and just have them catch it. Glove saving. Yeah. Shaboom, shaboom, shaboom, shaboom. Shaboom, shaboom. Gotta go, pick it up and go. Freeze and whistle, freeze and whistle. Listen, Pete, don't worry about that stuff. You gotta remember these are like what you're reading right now Like what kind of well like check your facts who are these pickle sticks NASA? Kick rocks dude. These are some pickle stick behind the computer

These are like these Tommy tough guys that run their mouth behind the computer And then they want to dance and then you show them show up to the dance Yeah, these boys just got to show up to the dance show up to the dance Yeah, if you want it you want us you want a salsa you want a little side shuffle? Probably not they're not showing up cuz they're sticking out home. They're dressed crushing crushing some soda pop some bags of chips You know what I mean? Yeah, your crazy Hammering away on the computer Suck right off. Oh, all right, my Fyre Fest is a great vacation,

except for I had one moment, the hottest I've ever been gambling in college basketball, and I went down with friends, a few couples, and two of my friends decided to fade me when I was 16 and four in college basketball, and they faded me on a pick I ended up winning so I went to 17 and 4 mm-hmm Yeah, but I think I'll probably I told them straight up. I was like if our friendship was 100%

It's 98% for the rest of our lives. Yeah, I percent lost two percent loss not a lot, but it's it's big Asteroid size loss yeah, that's big in the skill said 1% and now it's going up supposedly They did gain 1% back because okay people seen over my shoulder probably wondering what the fuck this is I got my friends gave me a gift for my 40th birthday wicked It is the day. I was born January 30th 1985 happened to be also Damarino's wedding day, so they got me a picture from Dan Marino's wedding day. That is so incredible right there.

So I have good friends, but they did fade me, so we lost a little bit of friendship. Yeah, Dan Marino. His first wife. His first wife. Finkel is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkel. Yeah.

How many wives has he had? Only one. But it is his first wife. Was she covering her face that kind of embarrassed, like he never did it? I don't know. Was she blowing or what happened? I don't know. Yeah. Like what happened there in Miami? I got it. For his first wife. What was she covering her face that kind of be embarrassed like he never did it I want to bring it up then miss the marino laces out. He knows he knows laces out I'm embarrassed to be seen marrying this guy who can't win the big can't do it like how many opportunities you got to go to The dance. Yeah, like show up. This is the only ring he'll ever get. Yeah. Oh

That's why that's why he knows laces out. Yeah. Yeah, but so so I got 1% back So 99% but yeah, you can't we're all time heater and they were asking for my picks They were like give me your picks. I gave him my picks and then they faded one of them I can't ask for picks and then fade I could tell big cat was actually mad about that I was because I went downstairs in this casino and I walked past their table where they were playing, I think you guys were playing roulette at the time.

Great game, great casino game. Said what's up to the crew and then Big Cat saw me and the first thing he said to me was, PFT, what would you rate this as a friend move if you're hot at gambling and then one of your friends fades you? And then his friends got very defensive About it. I could tell big Kelly's actually mad

Yeah, I was right though 16 and 4 and they asked for my picks and then they fit listen if someone fades me I would never know but hey, you don't you when we're on the opposite side It's not because you're asking for picks. We bet the opposite side. That's totally different It's like when you ask like can you give me your pick? Yes. And then just go the exact. If you were 16 and four, you would fade me. I went to 17 and four. Wow. Yeah. So you got to understand though, cat where, where my boy Hankie's coming from. Like think about it. Yeah, but he's you're 16 and four, bro. You're breaker point at 500 dudes you're like skeptical but are you But here more context they they took the 16 and four picks like they were riding with me So they had already won money. They're trying to time the market. Yeah, you can't do that

Like they had already there to ride your coat Tails and they're like guy we're getting off right here. No, no, no No, you got to stay on so they wanted it. They want to do the old all bet you yeah you lose Yeah, try to rebet and the guy says no. No, I don't want to bet. Yeah, what do you mean? You don't want to bet? You're saying one but they did make it back with the damn merino. It's good. I mean we need to get it signed Well, you know at first I was not happy with them, but they're back in my books. Yeah. All right good Oldie do you have a do you have a fire fest? Oh, man. What do I got this week? What do I got this week? It's been a long heck of a week. I've been bumping and grinding with the snowplow like 14 days straight I do have a question about that about leaving work

So you're coming down here to watch the game with us on the podcast. It's his show now. And what'd you tell your boss? I said I got, I got, uh, I got PFT coming in cat on my show. And you know what I mean? Hank's going to be there, but I mean, I gotta go. I got stuff to do with the boys. So my shift seven to three 30. And I looked at him about 312 314 said Henry I'm not here tomorrow or Friday. I got a phone call. I gotta go. What do you mean? You go do you mean?

I gotta go. I'm out of here, bud No problem, right? No problem. Just write it down beauty my boss at work actual butte Oh, yeah, he's butte. I basically I think it's kind of good for him because I'm not there He's beaut like basically I think it's kind of good for him because I'm not there Wait the kids gone work having a pee so I took off a couple Fridays ago cuz my I had to go Friday I think it was somewhere and Obviously I went somewhere right cuz I wasn't there think about it. So I said I gotta go I'm out of here He's like well alright guys by the way pizza party Friday Cuz he knew the kid wasn't in

Yeah, and I said enjoy boys enjoy the pizza your boys out. I'm going ice fishing. I'm out of here gotta go Okay, so it was ice fishing. Oh so that that was a couple weeks ago, but that was the worst The boys we caught nine fit the boys cut nine fish I had the biggest fish in Lake nipissing on my line my buddies on the sonar watching it Oh, oh, he sees the fish coming across the line Oh, and I'm trolling. I'm just dipping dipping dipping and dunking dipping and dunking with my rod Shablam's he hits me wing Wing, the rod gown goes right away. Brady would have loved this story,

but he just catches 3.4 bassers. So my rod is wheeled. Yeah, it's wheeled right down. Wee, and I'm cranking, cranking, cranking. Whistling. Bing, right up in the air. No, no, I lost it. The biggest fish in Lake Nevis

singing way up north with the boys. Devastating the whole week. What a life you had, but that's your fire fest. Yeah, it was terrible. I had a hoot with the boys though. We had a blast out there. We were in an ice fishing cabin on the lake. I drove my truck right into the lake. Wow. Laughter there, two-day banger with me and the boys. My broski. Oh, yeah, it was awesome. That's incredible. It was great. What's the sleeping situation like in there? Oh, so check this. It's like six manor in there.

We've got a propane tank. We've got a little stove. We've got a little jug thing of water. So we're sleeping on the bottom bunk. You know the kid's a big boy out there, so we're calling bottom. No one wants to die from the top end, right? So we're in the bottom bunk. One of the guys stayed in the top and he wasn't feeling good.

It was hot as shit up there, right? Because the heat rises. So the next day the guy's like, we went, he slept upstairs and about an hour and a half in he started feeling like shit. He went outside, puke rallied shit outside. I'm a little shitter outside. There's an outdoor shitter. So he went and did a shit puke rally and I could hear him from the inside of the cabin.

It's a 10 by 20 little shack and he's in a three by three shitter. He's got to walk out of the front to the backside and go to the three by three So he's in there and you just hear the puke rally Everything I go Jake are you alright my guy? He said I don't feel good like I got poisoning so I said okay. He came back in I felt bad So I said I'll go in the top bunk you ride the bottom bunk Okay, and about an hour into my shift upstairs. I'm sweaty sack balls You think the pocket pussy with some now is juicy up there boys

I had to get out of that I had to get out of the shack and went to the truck fire to wrap it about One o'clock 1 30 and I slept in the truck I hear a knock on the window 5 3 in the morning Oldie oh, yeah, what's up? How long you been in the truck for a couple hours? Holy shit. It's hot in the room Hey, I said, yeah. Yeah, I'm okay. Shut her off went back in and bang with the boys By 630 That's awesome. I know it's great fire fast. Yep. Oh you're the best man. I don't like this the last we'll hear from you Uh, alright last thing we do all the

Numbers, so there's a lottery ball machine. so we have this we've done this for five years now For all going on five years all right memes sitting next to you has never gotten it. He's never gotten it Pretty insane, but you can guess any number oldie from one to a hundred I'll let you we'll let you go first, so you just guess and we're all gonna guess numbers I've never done it Means really yeah, it's a long ride you five years in one of a hundred nothing never banged it some say it's more impressive to Not get it they get all they get all This is like winning the lottery like getting struck by lightning said it went a lot now. They get all the time It's so easy, but no it's like when people that win the lottery say that it's actually bad, but like yeah, you'd much rather win

That's just bullshit Right well my favorite move is stand up 69 with me on the opposite end Like who doesn't love that upside down you just hanging away You know, like, who doesn't love that upside down? You're just hanging away, right? But, I mean, also, I'm number four guy. That's a big number for me. Like I'm all about number four, so. So are you going four or 69?

I think I got a good five on the stand up 69 right now, but I gotta go back to home base I think sometimes, the four banger. Okay, so you're going four. We gotta go four banger, yeah. All right, everyone else? I'll go 69. go for banger. Yeah, all right everyone else I'll go 69. I'll go 44. I'll go three. I like it. I'll go 99 No, I shall go 40 40 I'll go 100 pug. Oh pug. I didn't see in there you get 99. Oh, I give you no

I don't see it. No no no it's yours. I will take 66 I'll take 99 pug also watch PMT PM TV to watch all the behind-the-scenes of oldie Yeah, incredible a lot of good stuff. Yeah 44 71 all right here we go 71 all right here we go This is exciting this is like this is a bubbler in the stomach come on for banger show the boys That's on let's do this what it means bet all right

61 oh thank God Rick Nash how do you do? That's my boy's number. Absolutely Are you kidding me right now? You know why I should have said national because the 2010 gold medal 2014 gold medal Olympics tonight All-star break according to some but as we know as broadcast for nation's on ESPN live a little buggers okay the the he was facetiming Rick Nash who he's been childhood friends with and Rick Nash said that he has gotten more text today than when he won the gold medal Because everyone's like what the hell is oldie doing at the Parkstall offices?

Like what is happening? This is beautiful. I love it. All right, I can't believe you I can't believe you didn't take 61 beautiful matches. Way to finish it off. You should have fucking. I should have taken my point. I got it on my... You have it on your back! I know, I know and I went with my home bar number four, but great ride here tonight Thank you. Thanks. Holy. Love you guys So I'm going to go ahead and get started. So So

So So Thanks for watching!