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PBD Podcast - Trump's BIG Beautiful Bill, Golden Dome SHOCKER & South Africa SHOWDOWN | PBD Podcast | Ep. 590

Episode Date: May 22, 2025

Patrick Bet-David, Tom Ellsworth, Vincent Oshana, and Adam Sosnick cover Trump’s unveiling of his “Golden Dome” plan, his showdown with South Africa’s president over alleged genocide, and Dan ...Bongino's shocking claims about Trump's July 13th assassination attempt.------🖥️ VT WEBINAR: HOW TO BE A KILLER IN BUSINESS WITHOUT KILLING YOUR MARRIAGE | JUNE 11TH | 12:30PM: https://bit.ly/4hVTkPK📺 SUBCRIBE TO HER TAKE: https://bit.ly/4k95Tb6🎫 THE VAULT 2025 | SEPT 8TH - 11TH | THE GAYLORD PALMS | ORLANDO, FL: https://bit.ly/4dJlmfL🍋 ZEST IT FORWARD: https://bit.ly/4jYg3Lh📕 PBD'S BOOK "THE ACADEMY": https://bit.ly/41rtEV4🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON SPOTIFY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g57zR2🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ITUNES: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g1bXAh🎙️ FOLLOW THE PODCAST ON ALL PLATFORMS: https://bit.ly/4eXQl6A📱 CONNECT ON MINNECT: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4ikyEkC👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3ZjWhB7📰 VTNEWS.AI: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3OExClZ🎓 VALUETAINMENT UNIVERSITY: ⁠⁠https://bit.ly/3BfA5Qw📺 JOIN THE CHANNEL: ⁠⁠⁠https://bit.ly/4g5C6Or💬 TEXT US: Text “PODCAST” to 310-340-1132 to get the latest updates in real-time!ABOUT US:Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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Starting point is 00:01:06 All of them are giving the speech. We'll talk about that a lot of thoughts on that one right there I want to read a story to some of you guys parents. I'm not gonna say earmuffs I'm gonna say be by yourself because you're probably gonna get emotional last night My wife is telling me babe read this Instagram thing and she sends it to me was sent to her by morale And I'm sitting there reading it, I'm like, are you, why you having me read something like this at 10.30 at night? I have to read it to all of you. Parents, you're going to love it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And then I got something I wanna introduce to you guys that has to do with that, which I think the timing is perfect. Trump says Biden didn't destroy the country, accuses other treasonous thugs instead. He actually was complimentary, but Biden would never destroy the country, accuse us or other treasonous thugs instead. He actually was complimentary about it. Biden would never open the board. He said, the Biden we know would never open the board.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Dan Bongino drops truth bombs about FBI assassination investigation with Epstein and he says Epstein didn't kill himself. Somebody killed him. Now Epstein killed himself. He committed suicide. And I mean obviously I have a lot of thoughts. Vinny has no thoughts on that, but some of us have some thoughts on it. Trump ambushes South African president in Oval Office with claims of white persecution.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Keep that word in mind. Ambushes. Okay, that's the new word. Remember insurrection, that nobody had ever used that word, insurrection. Remember all those words that you all of a sudden learn like they teach you vocabulary. You're about to learn the word ambushes by so many different outlets. Rob, I'm sure you have that video and the story as well. We'll cover that here. MSNBC's Joe Scarborough had a rough, just a rough day. You got to feel bad for this guy, but maybe you don't. Joe Scarborough forced to explain why he thought Biden was at his best year and he was confronted over and over and over again. It was uncomfortable. So was Jake Tapper by Megyn Kelly.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Megyn Kelly showed to the market why she's one of the best journalists in the world. You don't have to like her, but you have to respect the fact that she's one of the best journalists in the world, so talented, so talented on what she did and will definitely show that as well. The view had a meltdown over Tapper's Biden cover-up slam CNN for hawking it and John Stewart wasn't even happy about it. John Stewart said this guy's just out there trying to sell books and by the way It's not really the book is not isn't doing that well if you go look at the reviews I don't know if I see a lot of good over there mortgage rates
Starting point is 00:03:17 Move above 7% after Moody's downgrade of US credit Israel preparing to strike Iran's nuclear facilities even as Trump tries to negotiate the deal. And just as a last night or this morning, just this morning, two Israeli folks were killed at the Israeli embassy and you see the video of this man running around screaming, hollering. This just happened I think this morning, right? In Washington, DC. In Washington. Like inering. This just happened I think this morning. In Washington D.C. In Washington D.C.
Starting point is 00:03:46 In America. We're not talking about another country. In Washington D.C. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip. We won't show the shooting but we'll show you the clip. Ron DeSantis fall from grace. He completely crashed out to the ground. This is from The Guardian.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And there's some accusations with this $10 million stuff that he and his wife are a part of. I have some opinions on that. It's not going to be what you think his wife are a part of. I have some opinions on that. It's not going to be what you think I'm going to say, but I have some opinions on that. AOC seen as face of Democratic Party and it's not even close. AOC is now the face of the Democratic Party. Biden official knew about downplayed myocarditis risk from COVID-19 vaccine. Senate report alleges you have to see the hearing on RFKs.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That the one with RFK rap? If we have that RFK one as well, that'd be fantastic. Peter McCullough as well. I got to get some quotes of him. Yeah, we'll show that. Make sure you send it his way so he has some business news. Remember when we said State Farm? California proved that their rates would increase by 17%.
Starting point is 00:04:37 They're not happy about it. They said they needed 30%, which could cause State Farm to possibly leave the great state of California and go to a different place And imagine being the fourth biggest economy in the world and people don't want to do business with you Why do you think they don't want to do business with you? Majority US companies say they have to raise prices due to Trump's tariffs home depot says it will keep prices low Despite pressures from Trump tariff Jaguar remember Jaguar They did this ad that we were all supposed to turn transgender
Starting point is 00:05:05 and buy their new car? And we were all supposed to go get a surgery. Well, we know you did, but I'm just saying most people. Jaguar says it has no intention of manufacturing cars in the US, and they have to now change their campaign because that last campaign they had didn't do that well with the new car that came out.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Rob, if you don't have that story, maybe combine it with the other one. Did he carry pills? This is a little weird. People Magazine. This is coming from People Magazine. Did he carry pills with Obama's face on them? Weird. Ex-assistant testifies? Weird. It's a little weird.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And they have some. They still say some. I'm actually familiar with this story. Yeah, it's a little weird. But two huge names on the verge of quitting CBS news amid Trump's lawsuit Gail King's 13 Your career at CBS News may finally be coming to an end and You know Tom's got some thoughts on that Joe Rogan left shocked by sinister Mark Zuckerberg's brainwashing experiment that warped minds of 700,000 people I don't know much about that story, but we will definitely see what that clip is about I'm just not to cut you off. so the shooting of the two Israeli embassy staffers was last night.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Last night, half a last night, not this morning. Yes, okay. And then South Africa will talk about that when he and the president is like, oh really, you don't do anything to white, there's not a, can you play that clip? Can you turn off the lights? You have to see what this guy does there.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And those are some of the stories. Now, let me read you the story that I wanna read you before we start the podcast. Parents, just realize, it may get you a bit emotional because it definitely got me thinking about certain things. All right, so let me play this to you. Let me read this to you for what it's worth. Let me see where this one is.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It was a boom, boom, boom. All right, let me go from here. I'll find it from this picture. Are you trying to make us cry? Oh, let me tell you, man. You know there's something about family, right? There's something about family, beautiful families, people you love.
Starting point is 00:06:56 This story is sent to me yesterday. It says I'm 85 years old, and somehow I woke up in my 36- old body okay just for one day this time I knew what to treasure let's go to the next one so she's 85 years old wakes up in 36 year old body I hear a tiny voice before I open my eyes mama wake up I blink he's standing there bed head paj, pants too short, my little boy, he's small again. Go to the next one. He climbs into my bed laughing. He wraps his armor on my neck. I used to check the clock, rush the morning, but not today. Today I hold him tight, long and
Starting point is 00:07:37 deep. Go next. I walk to the mirror, no gray, no wrinkles, no aches in my knees, just me, 36, tired but strong. Go ahead Rob. My husband is in the kitchen, making coffee, he smiles when he sees me. Younger, softer, so familiar, I wrap my arms around him. This time, I don't let go quickly. We used to rush past each other, today I hold him close and whisper, thank you. quickly. We used to rush past each other. Today I hold them close and whisper, thank you. The kitchen floor is sticky. Lego underfoot, socks on the counter. I used to sigh, feel behind, get frustrated, but now I stand still and just soak it
Starting point is 00:08:16 all in. My little son chatters all through breakfast, stories about superheroes and questions about monsters. This time I listen, really listen, no phone, no distractions, just him, all his beautiful curious voice. In the car, he sings loudly, kicks the seat, spills a snack. I used to snap, now I smile and enjoy the moment because one day the seat will be empty and I'll miss the noise.
Starting point is 00:08:45 In the evening I pick up the phone and I hear my mom's voice. Tears fill my eyes before I said a word. I forget how much comfort lives in her voice. We talked about nothing, the weather, what she is cooking, but it means everything. I tell her I love her again and again. I don't want to hang up. At bedtime, I didn't rush. He picks his favorite superhero book, the one I've read a hundred times. Tonight, I read every single word slowly. And then I ask, one more? He nods. I don't want this night to end. He whispered, you're the best mom. I hold a small hand, kiss his soft cheek,
Starting point is 00:09:26 He whispered, you're the best mom. I hold the small hand, kiss his soft cheek, whisper how proud I am. His lashes flutter, his chest rises and falls, and I just watch, soaking it in. Tomorrow I will be 85 again and he will be grown. Busy, bigger, out in the world, but tonight I got this precious moment and now I know this was joy, this was love, this was everything. If you're living in the moment now, don't rush through it. The little hand in yours, the bedtime stories, the mess, the noise, it all matters more than you know. When you read a story like this, man, Jesus, you want to start us off by crying and call my mom, freaking Rob's a mess, Tom's a mess. Let me, you want to start us off by crying? I call my mom now. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Rob's a mess. Tom's a mess. Let me tell you. The fact that Tom isn't actually crying right now. He is. I see it. I read this last. I'm reading this thing.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You know what's crazy? You guys sent me this video last night with this lady that hit the ice agent and she's singing this song, right? I know it's going to make no sense, but if you play you play this here I'm gonna tell you how all this matches up together go ahead and play this so are you afraid of what's gonna transpire you fight you fight on, you fight on. When your government is doing.
Starting point is 00:10:49 So, I'm gonna call her. How does she not respond? Let me tell you what happened. Tico yesterday, school's coming to an end, so they're doing swimming and all this stuff. So he's been out in the sun for eight hours. His body is red. So he can't put a shirt on.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And we have this aloe that you put, but it's old. So I take it into Publixs and that's the moment you send it So i'm playing this he said what is she doing? I said watch i'm gonna sing it in publics in front of everybody for you We're in the publics tico gets embarrassed. I am screaming this song off the top of my lungs And he is hugging, you know how he pushes like he's not doing anything We had the most incredible 30 minute drive going there fooling around, bought some carrot juice,
Starting point is 00:11:30 finally found the aloe. I asked this lady, I need some aloe gel. The lady takes me and gives me coconuts and aloe. I didn't say I want coconut, I want aloe, the gel, right? We come back, we're laughing. Then we're in the house. We're sitting there, he's showing me all this stuff from Stranger Time, Stranger Time, whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Stranger Things, the show. And he's like, but this and this. And I'm like, dude, I really don't wanna hear this stuff. And I'm just listening to him say the stories. And we're in bed, it's 10, 15, 10, 30. He's still talking about, Tico, you gotta go to sleep. Then I go to my bed. Then Jennifer gives me this, I read this.
Starting point is 00:12:02 The moment I read it, I get up, I'm like, dude, I gotta go. She's like, where are you going? I go back to Tico. I said, finish your story about Stranger Things. What was it? And he sits up, dude, he was so excited to tell me all about it. And he says, will you watch it with me
Starting point is 00:12:16 when we go for vacation and all this other stuff? Is that not awesome, bro? Like when you get some messages like this that inspire the hell out of you and just kind of We're 46 47 vinnie the famous line Wake up tomorrow Family is so awesome. Yeah, but it's gonna go by so quick, man It's gonna go by so quick and it's so weird because I had no intentions of showing this to you guys but you know for me we're sitting and we're thinking about we have the vault
Starting point is 00:12:48 conference that's coming up we do this once you're this we're expecting 12,000 people the last we had 1500 husband and wives that were there and one of the things the guys the David consultant they see a lot of people ask about you know how to balance this with family and the kids and all this other stuff how do you do this I said listen why don't we, listen, why don't we just do this? Why don't we just do a free webinar on Family how to be a killer in business without killing your marriage and I said I'm gonna talk about all the mistakes I've made okay, and we're gonna talk about how we balance all this stuff together So that picture they put together for some of you guys that think that's really me with all those hands. It's not
Starting point is 00:13:22 It's just great job shout out to our guys at graphic design Rob if you want to play the, go ahead and play the clip and put this in the calendar so you know what the date is. Go ahead, Rob. You know what's scary for some people is they wanna be a killer in business. They wanna do a great job as an executive, as a CEO, entrepreneur, business owner,
Starting point is 00:13:37 but they don't wanna kill their marriage. So how do you balance that out? You wanna go make all the money, travel, win for your family, but you wanna stay married. You wanna have good relations with your kids. You want your kids to still want to see how do you do this. There's four things, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You ready? Write these down. Number one, you're allowing your family and friends make you feel guilty for your vision, which is going to create resentment towards them. You don't want that. Number two is, you lack clarity around the vision. You don't really know what you're doing it for. So work-life balance is a question that comes up for people that are not clear of what they
Starting point is 00:14:04 want to do. They haven't had the conversation with their family. Number three is the concept of being intentional with the time you're spending with your family. And number four is maybe you're just looking for an excuse to not work that hard because your family's not bothering you. You're just looking for it. This concept of work-life balance comes up every single day with people who ask me this question.
Starting point is 00:14:24 On June 11th, I'm hosting a free webinar for one hour to talk about work-life balance with the people that don't have the answer to the questions there, just like I didn't have it at that time. I'm married now with four kids running all these businesses. Some days you feel like you can't, you don't know what the hell you're doing. All I'm going to do is share with you mistakes I've made and things that are working for me. So if it's important to you, get registered.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Tell your wife, your husband, get everybody on together to listen up, we're gonna go through it for one hour, again, on June 11th, register, because it's limited seating on this webinar. I'll see you there. Come join us guys, June 11th, 12.30, put it in your calendar, by the way, I may have my wife and one of my kids maybe join me as well.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Rob, what is the website for them to go register for this free webinar? VTwebinar.com. VTwebinar.com. We have limited to 3,000 seats, so just make sure you go get registered again. VTwebinar.com. Can I say one thing about this? Yeah, of course. Because you've done how many webinars? I mean, the last one. I've done a lot of webinars, but we've never done a webinar on this. This has been coming up a lot the last six to 12 months. In my opinion, based on the conversations I have with everyone out there, this actually might be the most important webinar you've ever done, in my opinion. Because sometimes when you do an AI webinar
Starting point is 00:15:31 or a business webinar or a real estate webinar, it's very specific and very niche and that's great. Everyone deals with this. We're all dealing with this. You know why I've never done this? You know why I don't like to do a lot? Like they asked me to write a parenting book because you're still figuring it out.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Like I'm in the process of figuring it out. I'm in the process of learning this stuff, but I can't wait to have this one with you guys. Well, you know the secret. We're gonna have a lot of fun with this. Pat is a guy. Stay single, don't own a car. No, no, no, Pat is actually a vampire.
Starting point is 00:15:55 He does not sleep. I know Vinnie dressed up as a vampire one time. In Romania. In Romania, Transylvania. Anyways, okay. PBT don't sleep. Let's get right into it. And you know what? I want to start off with business.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I want to start off with business because there's a lot of stuff that's going on right now. And the business part of it is the new bill, the big beautiful bill that the president was talking about because this has to do with taxes. This has to do with how you're going to be paying taxes moving forward. A lot of people didn't think this was going to get done. There was a lot of challenges with it think this was going to get done. There was a lot of challenges with it, but it eventually ended up happening.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And I'm going to read some stuff here, Rob. I think you also have the whole thing in place if you want to play the clip. The House rule committee approved President Trump's big beautiful bill in an 8-4 vote with Speaker Johnson stating at 1 a.m. Wednesday, very close to resolving GOP disputes, enabling a potential Housewide vote by Wednesday night or early Thursday morning, that's Thursday morning here today, a key amendment introduced at 9 p.m. Wednesday, accelerator Medicaid work requirements from 28-2029 to December 2026 for able-bodied recipients and ends green energy tax subsidies by 2028
Starting point is 00:17:02 unless they show quick returns, addressing demands from blue state republicans for higher salt detection caps and conservative like Representative Chip Roy and Ralph Norman for stricter Medicaid rules and repeal Biden's inflation reduction add subsidies. Rob, if you want to play this clip and we'll get right into it. We look forward to the Senate's timely consideration of this once in a generation legislation. We stand ready to continue our work together consideration of this once in a generation legislation. We stand ready to continue our work together to deliver on the one big beautiful bill, as President Trump named it himself.
Starting point is 00:17:33 We're going to send that to his desk. We're going to get there by Independence Day on July 4th, and we are going to celebrate a new golden age in America. Tom, what's in this big beautiful bill and why should everybody be paying attention? Well, you know, when Biden had the Inflation Reduction Act, a lot of people, including us, looked into it and said, what the hell was going on? Well, this is a continuation. This means that the Trump tax breaks that have all been part of the budget of the United States and they've
Starting point is 00:18:05 been in place for years, including during Biden, will not be expiring. So taxes are not going to go up on Americans at the time where they could least use them going up right now as with the economy adjusting. So that was number one. But then some good things happened. There was a bunch of green energy stuff in there that even at the time people said, you're giving away subsidies for nothing. They're not showing that the green energy was saving money or saving on investment in
Starting point is 00:18:35 new energy plants because we need nukes. Thank you. And they put a work requirement in that if you're going to get Medicaid, you're going to get food stamps. There's a work requirement. And if you work, Vinnyny what do you got to have you got to have a green card so guess what so that they're arguing the Democrats are arguing hey you know there's you know three million people aren't gonna
Starting point is 00:18:54 be able to get to the snap program well that's like a EBT card which you can go buy food with well guess what no no no no no if you're working or you're trying to work or you have a green card you you can take advantage of it as low income. But if you're, you just, you know, walked across from some foreign place and you're not supposed to be here, uh-oh, you can't use it. So all that was good. And I think this is a really good bill. Now what we need to get is the fine print, Pat, and we don't have the fine, fine print.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And we're going to see that because July 4th he's talking about is it's got to go to the Senate. And Senate's going to arm Russell over, but then Republicans are going to pass it. It's going to happen. And then he's going to sign it. I think he's absolutely going to sign it on July 4th. And as a matter of fact, I don't think he wants to sign it, Pat, until July 4th because they didn't need to sign it until then because the tech cuts were the end of year. So I think it's a good thing. Is it a celebratory thing? On a one to ten, I'm at about an eight and a half because it continues at tax cuts and they're moving forward and they're actually putting some requirements on things and no taxes on tips I like, no taxes on overtime pay, and no taxes on
Starting point is 00:20:02 car loan interest. Now when you hear that one, that's part of fine print because who's that gonna help? The auto industry that's trying to sell cars. But is it car loan interest of automakers that the cars made in the US or any car loan interest? We need to assess this part of what I wanna see is the fine. Can you specify that, Rob? I wanna see the fine print.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Can you find that if the car loan interest is for, because what I heard is the fact that the car loan interest is specific to cars that are made in America. And by the way, to add a few different things, here's what I looked up, Adam, before I come to you. I asked the question, this big beautiful bill that just passed, I want to know specifics of how it impacts the poor, the middle class, the upper class, and the super wealthy. So here's a low income, bottom 10%. Household resources are projected to decrease by 2% by 2027 and 4% by 2023.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Medicaid cuts approximately 8.6 million people could lose Medicaid coverage due to $716 billion in program cuts and new work requirements. You have to have certain requirements to get that apparently. And of course we're going to learn more about this. This next one is very, very important. This next one says, an estimated 3 million individuals may lose monthly food assistance benefits as a result of nearly $300 billion cuts to the supplemental nutritional system, the SNAP program.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Right? So guess what? If you're no longer getting the welfare program, you have to go get a job. Under Obama, if you guys remember, the unemployment checks went from 90 days to 6 months to 12 months. I even believe at one point they hit 24 months. Guess what people were doing? Nobody was looking for jobs.
Starting point is 00:21:28 The moment they cut that unemployment rate to like 90 days or 6 months, everybody started looking for jobs. So this $300 billion that's cut on snap, they have to go get that money somewhere else. Middle income temporary increases in child tax credit up to $2,500. No deductions on tips, overtime, and car loan interest. I want to know the car loan interest, Rob, if that is a U.S. car loan interest or any car loan interest. And then there's a couple of other things there.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Elimination of federal subsidy, student loan for undergraduates, potentially increasing higher education expenses, high income individuals, top 10%. Household resources are expected to rise by up to 4 percent in 2027, primarily due to tax cuts. Extension of 2017 tax, Trump-era tax, increased state and local salt deduction up to $30,000. That's the cap. Creation of a thousand dollar MAGA saving account for children. Creation of a thousand dollar Make America great again saving accounts for children. Everybody born after 2024. Everybody born after 2024 gets a thousand dollar mega savings account for children. That's it. It's tax advantage so that the parents can keep it and keep contributing and as it
Starting point is 00:22:37 grows it's tax advantage. Go make some babies but still have a job and don't rely on SNAP. Go make some babies and do it right. Oh snap. Estate and endowment taxes, reduction in state and new rely on snap go make some babies and do it oh snap estate and endowment taxes reduction estate and new taxes on large university endowments and That's kind of what you have extension of 2017 cuts couple other things that they had there But that's pretty much it Adam your thoughts on this. I think Tom nailed it, you know It's gonna be one beautiful bill one big beautiful bill I think that's what gonna good to see that Congress still exists because Trump has just taken all the oxygen out of the room since he became president. Everything is
Starting point is 00:23:10 going on with the Trump show, but this is going to pass. And I'll tell you why who controls Congress and it's not even close. It's the Republicans. So how many congressional districts turned Democrat in this past election. I think it's zero. Everything went towards the right. Everything. Everything. So, you know, the old conversation with Vinny's best friend, Stephen A Smith, it's a mandate. Not that kind of mandate, Vinny, but everything is going to be like that. Everything is going to pass because they control Congress. By the way, Congress, the house they have, I think they're plus eight seats 220 to 212 in The Senate they're up. I think six seats 53 to 47. This is going to pass and it will probably Pass exactly as Trump wants it on July 4th
Starting point is 00:23:57 Happy anniversary. Happy birthday America This is what's gonna happen. By the way, I was at the Wall Street Conference yesterday This is what's going to happen. By the way, I was at the Wall Street conference yesterday, Jason Lyons event and Byron Donald spoke and he talked about this exact bill, this big, beautiful bill. And he said this, he goes, you know, the, the Trump tax cuts that they passed in 2017, you know how I know that they're actually going to stay and how they're legit and why they're so good because the Democrats didn't do anything to try to reverse them in the last five years.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's almost like, did you notice that Biden didn't do anything to reverse all the policies against China? Nothing. He kept the Trump's policies, the terrorists on China. Nothing changed. Now Trump's shuffling down. But the Democrats, apparently from Byron Donald, did not do anything to reverse the Trump tax cuts.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So it looks like this big beautiful bill will pass. Great point. And I'll add one thing in one sentence. Neither did Bill Clinton when he got to office, he didn't touch the Reagan program, which was consistent. There you go. That's interesting. He was touching other programs. And by the way, I just asked right now, I just found that the interest, the car loan interest applies only to cars assembled in the US. If it's not, you don't participate in that. It's only assembled in the US is what that's all about.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You think this is gonna pass, PBD, just like this? The way it is right now with the Senate? Like it passed the House, now it's going to the Senate. Look, when Hakeem Jeffries, who is the minority leader. The dream, he's the dream. Right, when he only gets up for 30 minutes to debate and fight this, and if you remember Kevin McCarthy, he stood up for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours talking about how this is terrible, guess what they're saying?
Starting point is 00:25:39 They're not fighting. Yeah. They're accepting. This is passing. Tough to fight. There's not a fight. Yeah, there's not a fight How much and time you said that this was a eight eight and a half? As like as a pot from one out of ten Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:51 I think I think this is an eight and a half and I want to see the fine print because they really went down through Multiple areas and that's the purpose of of Congress to do that's what they're supposed to do And how much does this help? Remember Nancy Pelosi, we'll find out what's in it after we pass. And how much does this help towards a victory for the midterms? Because I mean, at the end of the day, that's what he's going for. Let me tell you how I work, Vinny. I'm a businessman.
Starting point is 00:26:19 When on day 99, I gave it a C-, I gave it a C minus on what's been done, not what's pending. As a salesperson or person that runs business, you have a lot of things that's going on. Unless if you close the deal, it's just a good idea. Right? So today from there at C minus to where they're at and they get the standby 4th of July, that C minus could be a B plus like this
Starting point is 00:26:42 with everything that's going on. Headed towards an A, A minus. And obviously. It's getting obviously, and I think, by the way, I'm telling you this, I'm going to keep repeating this, I said this everywhere I go right now. I was on Jesse, I said this. I was on Benny yesterday, I said this. Brace for impact. 2026, if you haven't heard me say this already, President Trump's turns 80 on June 15th next year.
Starting point is 00:27:02 America turns 250 years old next year. World Cup is coming here, IPO market's gonna open up. 2026 is going to be the most magical year to be living in America in our lifetime. Let me say it again, 2026 is going to be the most magical year you've ever lived in America in our lifetime Again 2026 will be magical because of everything that's coming together right now
Starting point is 00:27:32 It's very simple what he did the other day the South African leader comes to the White House When he comes in he first shakes his hand. We're like, hey, everything's gonna be alright all this other stuff So it looks friendly and then he sits in front of him and he says, so tell me, what is all this stuff that you guys are doing? Rob, I don't know if you have the handshake or not. If you do, you don't have it. Is this the one that he turns over to the video? Yes. Okay, well at first he comes in. It's a very friendly handshake. Now this is South Africa,
Starting point is 00:28:00 which when you know the stories with South Africa, they have been going through a mess. The ANC has been running South Africa since 1994, right after Nelson Mandela, and for the first 10 years or so it was good. Then all of a sudden the extremists took over South Africa. They started losing their mind and a level of racism towards whites went to a whole different level in the country. A lot of chaos, a lot of weird things. You hear people, there's a leader of chaos, a lot of weird things.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You hear people, there's a leader of the EFF I think that got up, we will get his name, he got up and he gave a message saying we have to take out the whites and all this stuff. So he's sitting there, look at all the cameras, Hexed is right there, Lutnik is right there, look at Musk who is from South Africa, standing to the right, okay? And then you see JD Vance, VP JD Vance, everybody is waiting for this meeting with South Africa. Here's how it goes, Rob. Is this when he turns over to the TV? Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Please go on and play this clip. Turn the lights down and just put this on. By the way, Rob, if you do this, the reason why you have to see 30 seconds prior to this is because 30 seconds prior to this, he was asking him, what happened? Why is there a genocide going on in your country? Why is there such a thing going on? And the president of South Africa tries to explain himself and say, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You can't believe this. And in South Africa, this. And what we learned from Nelson Mandela is this and then he flips to it. Is that the one Rob? Because for this to make sense you have to see the 30 seconds prior to that South Africa Trump. Do you know which one I'm talking about Rob or no? We have to show this.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I don't want to show it without that because you have to see that whole exchange for the world to realize I just found it. Here we go. Okay, I'm going to send this over to you Rob and do me a favor first show a fast forward to it. Hang on, I'm going to send it over to you in text. The audience folks, you have to see this.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Okay, so he tries to explain himself. He wasn't automatically wanting to go to the video. He had that as a backup in case he was going to be reasonable. So when the president of South Africa comes up and tries to spin and say that there's nothing going on in South Africa, it's peaceful, there's no issues, whites are not facing any racism, everybody is safe, nothing's going on. The president flipped. You can play this clip here, Robin. Go to the part where the president starts speaking, South African president starts speaking.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Okay, go for it. Go for it. Press play. It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africans, some of whom are his good friends, like those who are here. When we have talks between us on the quiet table, it will take President Trump to listen to them. I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying.
Starting point is 00:30:55 I would say if there was a free kind of farmer genocide, I can bet you, these three gentlemen would not be here, including my Minister of Agriculture. Look at him, look at him. gentlemen would not be here including my minister of agriculture He would not be this is what you needed to see so it'll take him He's had enough already look at the way he's speaking to it takes President Trump listening That is the answer to your watch this With thousands of stories talking about it. Sure. And we have documentaries, we have news stories.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Is Natalie here? Somebody here to turn that? I could show you a couple of things. And I would, I just, I have to, it has to be responded to. Sure. Let me see the articles, please, if you would. And turn the lights down. That's what you needed to see.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Turn the lights down. Without the first minute, this doesn't make sense. Look at his face right behind you. Watch this. That's a nervous smile there. This parliament can do, with or without you, people are going to occupy land. We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.
Starting point is 00:32:06 We don't care. This guy speaking is Julius Malema. Who are you to tell us whether we can open by-line or not? He's the leader of Africa's EFF political party, which is about 10% support. That's who we are. We can't be a nobody. We can't be a nobody. Let go of this rock. Hello? Hello, hello, hello? I'll never be scared to kill
Starting point is 00:32:28 and revolution Fast forward, Rob, because they're not showing the clips. Try not to go to the reaction of both of them when that is over with. I'll show one of the clips so they know who it is. With juicy 100% Canadian-raised seasoned chicken, shredded lettuce, crispy jalapenos, and that completely craveable hot honey sauce, it's a sweet heat repeat you don't want to miss. Get your Hot Honey McCrispy today.
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Starting point is 00:33:20 He lets the whole thing play. There's another clip that shows the angle of what they're talking about. These are burial sites right here. Burial sites. Over a thousand of white farmers and those cars are lined up to pay love on a Sunday morning. Each one of those white things you see is a cross. And there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers, the family of white farmers.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And those cars aren't driving, they're stopped there to pay respects to their family member who was killed. And it's a terrible sight. I've never seen anything like it. Okay, Rob, do me a favor. Play the clip I just sent you. Did you see him shifting in his chair? Well, you have to see this because the guy, the first clip that he played is this guy, Julius Malema.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Okay, watch what he's saying here. And look how many people are in the crowd. Sweetheart of a guy. Watch. Kichiki Chi, Kichima. Watch what he's saying here and look how many people are in the crowd. Watch Ten percent of the voters support him Kill the poor, farmer, brrrr-pa, pa, brrrr-pa, pa. Did you hear that? Watch what he said. Kill the farmer, kill the poor, brrrr-pa, brrrr-pa.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Shoot to kill. So now, the president of South Africa in that position is saying, that's not my party. That's not me, I don't stand for that. Did you condemn it's not my party. That's not me. I don't stand for that. Did you condemn it though? Exactly the point. You nailed it.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Rob, can you show the clip where Julius Malema was being interviewed about killing white people and what he says? Do you know which one I'm talking about? The 32nd one he says, you can't say something like that. He says, well, I'm not telling you, I'm not condemning it, but not yet. Not yet. Maybe one day. He's like, you're being cry babies.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But not yet. Not yet. Not yet. If you have it, he's sitting to the right. Not that one day. But not yet. Not yet. Not yet. If you have it, he's sitting to the right. Not that one. There's another one. I can send it to you, but this is all I typed up Rob. I typed up Julius Malema, not yet. If you type in Julius Malema, not yet, it'll show up.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Just type in Julius Malema, not yet. It'll show up. If you don't have it, I'll text it to you here. I believe, is this the one? This is exactly the one. 41 seconds. Go for it. watch this folks. The government is in the land.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Let's get our land and let's work our land. I'm hated for that. What, what, where? I mean, I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. Not yet. I can't guarantee the future. Yeah, but I you, we've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee the future. Not yet.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Yeah, but I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that, especially as a big fan on Twitter. They freak out. Go back, go back, go back. Ten seconds if you could. Go back a little bit more, Rob. Keep going back, keep going back, keep going back. Go back five more seconds. Watch this. Go ahead. I'm saying to you, we've not called for the killing of white people at least for now. I can't guarantee the future Yeah, but I mean you'd understand somebody watching that especially as it gets shared on Twitter. They freak out. It sounds like a genocide Babies cry baby. I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people at least for now
Starting point is 00:36:41 Of the future especially when things are going the way they are sub Bremen okay, and it so you see that taking place Tom your thoughts on this. Yeah Well, he was saying most people in America. Maybe you don't know he's not saying poor P-o-o-r he's saying bore Boer and those are the white Dutch settlers that are farmers in South Africa So when he says kill the farmer it's what the common people refer to them the white says and when he says kill the boars he's referring to their their ancestors who were Dutch settlers.
Starting point is 00:37:15 This guy is calling for an ethnic cleansing that's what he's talking about and so he's saying all the Dutch that came here over those years, goodbye. And he's making the machine gun sound and pow pow. That's what he's making. This, I am very proud that Trump called it out with a what the hell are you doing? Because it's time that we use our strength and influence around the world not to ignore things.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And there's so many things to do, so many things. Dar things and there's so many things to do so many things Darfur and there's all these things but I love the fact that Trump called it out and Americans need to understand what's going on here when he says kill the boar that's all the white Dutch people that settled and killed a farmer those are the white people that are running farms that's what he's talking about this guy this guy is no good yeah good. Yeah he's not good. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this? Yeah I do have major thoughts on this. Number one, from a macro perspective, if I'm a world leader I would think twice before showing up to the Oval Office. This is the same room that Zelensky got dressed down and basically had to go back with a hat in hand and
Starting point is 00:38:21 his tail between his legs back to Ukraine, unless it's the same room that the president of South Africa, Ramaphosa, just basically got exposed as being at the very least a liar and at the very most calling for white genocide. But not yet. Terrorists. In a couple days, a couple hours, maybe Thursday. A couple months, depending on how I feel. So be very cautious when you go into that room.
Starting point is 00:38:48 By the way, where do you think he got the, hey, roll the tape. I think that's a shout out to Rob right there. Just a PBD thing right there. Number two, got to give a major shout out. Talk about timing. Robert Herzoff that just was on the podcast that just came out, I believe yesterday, South African billionaire, stud of a guy, came in and had this exact same conversation the day before this took
Starting point is 00:39:09 place. And if you're paying attention to what's going on in the world, not many people are familiar with what's going on in South Africa. In fact, you actually led the conversation off with, we kind of know what's going on with China, we know what's going on with Russia, Ukraine, we hear what's going on in Israel, Gaza, Mexico. Not a lot of people know what's going on in Russia, Ukraine, we hear what's going on in Israel, Gaza, Mexico. Not a lot of people know what's going on in South Africa. Why don't you enlighten us? And he goes, listen, there is a genocide. Now genocide gets thrown around way too frequently these days.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So what I'll tell you is this what I learned. There is definitely an economic genocide going on in South Africa, because it's basically as he described it, if there's a living manifestation of what DEI looks like as a country, it's South Africa. Okay, so they have something called the Black Economic Empowerment. They're basically just simply saying, listen, if you own a business, if you're white and you own a business, you have to give, and especially I think as it's funded by the government, you have to give 30% of your business to the black economic empowerment movement. This is Marxism.
Starting point is 00:40:07 This is socialism. This is reverse DEI. One thing that I learned is reverse racism is racism. That's just kind of how that works. So I also have a good friend on the inside in South Africa that's been on the PBD podcast before ran Nooner, shout out to him. He goes, Oh, everything that he's talking about is accurate. It is true.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Did Trump ambush him? Yes. Just like these guys are ambushing white farmers and the Boers. So I'm so glad that Trump just exposed this dude and to put the finale on this. What's the one country, the one country in the world that brought the case against Benjamin Netanyahu to the international Criminal Court. What's the country? Well, it's South Africa. Who's funding South Africa apparently? Well, apparently it's the Islamic regime in Iran. So it's very very
Starting point is 00:40:59 Ironic don't you think you're on here? Oh, you know all the money let me show this may, and Vinny, I'll come to you. So remember the word ambush. Two things. First, watch this clip with Elon Musk. Look how Elon Musk is looking at this man. And look at the look. Look at the look on how he's looking at him.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Look at this. While the entire conversation is taking place, he's looking straight at him. Because he, the president of South Africa said, Elon and I have spoken. He says, Elon, you made a lot of money. He says, but why don't you come here and do stuff with me? Why don't you come here and do stuff with us? Do you know what Elon just tweeted about Starlink?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Did you see that, Rob? Let me tell you what he said about Starlink. He's like, hey, Musk, Starlink, South Africa. He says, I'd love to bring it in South Africa, but you don't allow me to do it because you only want it to be for, I wanna read exactly what he says. It's such a shocker on what he says about Starlink Rob.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Did you find it or no? Oh, you have to see this. I hope I can find this because Elon tweets a lot, but let me see if I can go through it. He says, I would love to, but they don't allow Starlink there because it's a racist country. So whites can't get access to Starlink. Some words like that. Again, I want to get specific on what he says.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Rob, if you can look for it, there's something about those two two taking place and then while that is happening. What does the media do? Here's what is that Starlink is not allowed to operate in South Africa because I'm not black It on stop the victim complex Starlink isn't banned in South Africa because of your skin cuts because you refuse to comply with local laws Like every other telecom provider play by the rules. Okay, so they're saying what is the rules? What what are the rules with Starlink being there? Okay, he offered it to Zelensky, Ukraine, he's offered it to a lot of other people. If other people are allowing it,
Starting point is 00:42:54 what other rules and guidelines would be there for South Africa that you're claiming he's not allowing it to be out there? And then how does the market react with the way President Trump handled it? Rob, can you pull up the video of what the market's been saying way President Trump handled it Rob? Can you pull up the video of what the markets been saying everybody the mainstream media? There's a video of all of them saying the same exact thing. I'll just you know there's one clip of it
Starting point is 00:43:13 I'm sure Rob has it watch this year folks This goes back to what we saw many many times where the mainstream media says the same exact thing watch this somebody sent an email Saying guys this is the word to use today go ahead Rob Watch this somebody sent an email saying guys. This is the word to use today. Go ahead Rob Office today the tense confrontation president trump ambushing the president is That music yeah, sorry there's a video in the back. What's that other one? Yeah, it's all good. It's that one Watch this watch this folks. It is a great song. Roll the tape Rob.... office today, the tense confrontation, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Up next, another Oval Office meltdown, President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa. President Trump is being accused of conducting something of a diplomatic ambush of South Africa's president in the Oval Office. Ambush. Ambush. To be with you, I'm Katie Ture. President Trump orchestrated another oval office ambush today today Donald Trump meeting with the president of South Africa and
Starting point is 00:44:09 Attempting to ambush and humiliate think for yourself Zelensky territory Where essentially he was a bit ambushed inside the oval office felt like an ambush in there Kind of like the president Zelensky meeting in the oval office who says this was an ambush It's all I wanted. It was orchestrated. Terro Romaposa brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting, but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush. Ambush.
Starting point is 00:44:34 What started as, to some degree, an ambush. Well, Katie, I mean, it wasn't ambush. Ambush. Great question. ABC, MSNBC, CNN, it's like they send out a back signal that says just don't think for yourself, do the same BS talking points. These people are never going to learn. They never learn.
Starting point is 00:44:51 They can't get out of their ways. And I'm so happy because none of them can get back in the power pad. So that's one thing. But you guys said, so how much percent of these people of South Africa support the crazy guy? 10%. There's how many people in South Africa support the crazy guy? 10%. There's how many people in South Africa? Population?
Starting point is 00:45:08 60 million. So 6 million of those people are kill, bore, kill, all that stuff. And Humberto sent this to me. In the early Nazi party, support was initially low. Guess what? How much was the percentage of support in 1929 for the Reichstag elections? The party received how much percent of the vote? You know?
Starting point is 00:45:25 3%. 3% and it dropped in 1928 to 2.6. They're at 10% and if the president is like, nah, it's not a big deal and they're trying to deny it, it's not a good look. The best part right now with what's going on, Searle the president doesn't like Malema, Julius, the other guy, and there's one other guy as well that was a former guy
Starting point is 00:45:46 that is more evil than any of these other guys. His name is Zuma, right? I don't know if you know anything about Zuma. I've heard the name before. So Zuma, this is Zuma, Jacob Zuma, he's the guy after Mandela that pretty much destroyed South Africa. Do you know one time this guy had sex
Starting point is 00:46:00 with a person that had HIV positive? And you know what he said in the interview when he had sex with this person, unprotected sex? He says I did have unprotected sex with somebody that was HIV positive but I took a shower afterwards so I'm fine. No he didn't. Rob, can you please fact check what I just said. Wow, Nobel Prize in Medicine right there.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Fact check me right there, okay. So there you go. So in Zuma's admission was controversial as he stated that he has not used a condom while having, he had not used a condom while having sex with Kewazi. Despite knowing she had HIV positive and having been as deputy president, the head of the National AIDS Council and moral regeneration campaign, he told the court that he had taken a shower after the fact, claiming that doing so reduced the risk of a child. So do you know who this is?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Go all the way to the top so they know who this is. This is the former, the former president. He is the former president. Before Cyril. From 09 to 18. So this is Zuma. Then you have Julius, who gave, kill the boar, kill the farmers, then you have Cyril. Between the three, Cyril is the most normal one, but all three hate
Starting point is 00:47:15 each other. The best thing that's going on is the fact that they all hate each other. But Cyril needs to have the audacity to do something about Malema and Zuma because the way they're going, if one of these two guys ends up being there, you know what's happened the last 20-some years? One million of the whites have left. They have left. It's called brain drain. You know what brain drain is?
Starting point is 00:47:42 It's what happened to Iran. It's what happened to Russia. It's what happened to Russia. It's what happened to a lot of countries. It's what's happening to Venezuela right now. Those who are the smartest, the job creators, they leave. The immigration of highly trained, intelligent people from a particular country. These are the people you don't want to leave. It's like you're running a sales organization and your top 20% of sales guys leave.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Not the bottom 50%, the top 20 leave. When your top 20% of people leave in a company or country, you have problems. That's what's going on in South Africa. It's like California, brain drain. Can I highlight one last thing? Please keep it short because we've got more stories. Because we talked about the ambush that's on mainstream media. I want to talk about what's-
Starting point is 00:48:21 Can I just go to the next story? Let me just go to the next story. Rob, can you pull up the Morning Joe story? Pull up the Morning Joe story and I'll come to you first. Go to to the next story. Let me just go to the next story, Rob Can you pull up the morning Joe story? Okay, pull up the morning just story and I'll come to you first Okay, go to the morning Joe story. This is morning Joe being ambushed. We're gonna use the same word Okay, except he's ambushed with facts. Okay, and and watch how this exchange looks like on morning Joe Joe protecting Biden even though he knew he wasn't doing well, and he
Starting point is 00:48:45 keeps trying to dodge it and the interviewer doesn't stop. Rob, is this the one? Yeah, so I actually have the clip that he's referencing, if I can play that first and then play this. Okay, do that. Go for it. Do that and then we'll go to this. Uh, so here's uh, uh, morning Joe, and then you see the other fellow asking him the questions. Go ahead, Rob. show, and then you see the other fellow asking him the questions. Go ahead, Ron. But comparing that guy's mental state, I've said it for years now. He's cogent. But I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent. In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been intellectually, analytically, because he's been around for 50 years. And, you know, I don't know if people knew this or not,
Starting point is 00:49:32 Biden used to be a hothead. Sometimes that Irishman would get in front of the reasoning. Sometimes he would say things he didn't wanna say. This is, and I don't really, you know what, I don't really you know what I don't really start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth if you can't handle the truth this version of Biden intellectually analytically is the best Biden ever not a close second I don second. You're doing it right for playing this first Rob. Perfect. Great approach. Now here's the podcast. Go for it. Well, it was misleading to
Starting point is 00:50:15 say best Biden ever without caveating and say, except on the days when he's not the best Biden. Well, but I never saw those days personally. You did, you did because you saw him address a dead Congresswoman and you saw him in South Carolina. They did Congresswoman, yeah. Yeah. Well, more than that, I can show you the RNC clip reels. There were plenty of days in public when he, when he was not the best Biden ever. And of course, he stumbled and he stumbled and he stumbled and bumbled around Mark.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I mean, yeah, he he certainly did. Donald Trump did. Other politicians did. Again, Donald Trump. But but but it and it's actually the same case as a lot of times when I've gone in and talked to Donald Trump. We're going to Donald Trump. And I've heard the media narrative around Donald Trump. And certainly I've been very critical of Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And when I leave, I have a better understanding, just like Jeffrey Goldberg did a couple of weeks ago, a better understanding of where Donald Trump is mentally, if Donald Trump is losing it, like people have said through the years or not. And so again, am I going to look at a clip that's gone viral and pay more attention to that than 2 and a half 3 hours and with a guy one on one going around the world now I'm just not going to are those are some of the clips bad yeah, they certainly
Starting point is 00:51:35 they certainly are bad I can understand what people would see that without the context what content and and say say that there was a problem with that, especially because I said, start, look, tape right here. You know, it's like, but you know, when I look at that tape. There's a push and back, Robert, is he just gonna do double talk? Based on what I saw in the video. It just keeps double talking.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Based on the time that I saw him by. So he doesn't challenge him anymore from here. Based on the hundreds of hours. You can pause it right here. Okay, you can pause it right here. This is one example with him, okay? Then you have, you know, another example, but I'll pause right here. I'll go to Adam, and then I'm going to show you what Megyn Kelly does to Jake Tapper.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Okay, you have to see how long is this one, Rob? Three minutes. Play the first minute and I'll go to it, because they're the same thing. Jake Tapper, morning, Joe. Go for it. I did ask Joe Biden to be transparent about his health records in an interview in 2020. I did ask him about the fact that voters thought that he was not transparent at all. He promised you that he would be transparent about his health records and then he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And when you sat with him again, including one month after the Jackie Walorsky thing, you didn't ask him about it. You didn't follow up on the fact that he was falling up the stairs, that he was losing his train of thought regularly, that he was slurring, that he was incomprehensible, that he was getting lost on the White House lawn. You sat right across from him and you asked none of that, notwithstanding the fact that he had promised you he would be fully transparent about his health issues. You know as well as I do that there's a way of you can say, hey, there's this poll on
Starting point is 00:52:56 your age, or you could say, you just forgot that Jackie Walorski was dead. You asked where she was moments after watching a videotape tribute to her. You lowered the flags at the White House after she died. This happened 13 days before you sat with him. There is a way of pressing a man like that on the actual infirmities to bring it home to him and to the audience, and you didn't do it. It wasn't just that. I mean, you sat with him a couple of times in the course of his presidency, and these issues were not pressed. Well, there was at least that time and then there was the time at the beginning. And, but separate and apart from that, you covered the Biden presidency. No, no, no. Let me just finish my point. You covered the Biden presidency.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I had one interview with him during his first. Okay, right. And it was 13 days after the Jackie Orlowski thing. But you covered the Biden presidency aggressively throughout the four years and you didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. You can pause it right now. So this is how I'm gonna bring it over to you. So mainstream media hasn't learned their lesson. Nope.
Starting point is 00:53:53 The internet saw the clip of you guys saying the same exact thing. You're doing it again with Trump now, Ambush, and you see his popularity is increasing, yours is decreasing. The governor of New Jersey, it's a left state, has a worse popularity approval rating than Trump does in New Jersey. Go to Rutgers, see what they teach you about Trump. What happened there?
Starting point is 00:54:19 What's going on with them? And then on Morning Joe and Jake Tapper, who have been looked at as these incredible journalists are sitting there being questioned by others and they don't know how to answer the question. Adam your thoughts on this. Let me tell you this pisses me off more than maybe anything because this is the reason I became so anti Trump for many years because they lied to me like there's nothing worse than thinking that you're on the right side of history But you've been lied to this whole time. This is why you know, you joke about that I'm more MAGA than anybody these days. I wasn't MAGA at all, but now I'm definitely MAG
Starting point is 00:54:54 I want to make America great because I've been lied to because in 2016 I had a nice situation at work where I started working remote and made some money. And I was watching morning Joe every single morning. Why? Why did I watch morning Joe every single morning? Because I liked the fact that Joe Scarborough was a Republican and Mika Brzezinski was a Democrat and they had an entire conversation of panels and they made it seem like it's an open discussion discourse. seem like it's an open discussion discourse. What I didn't fully realize is this guy hates
Starting point is 00:55:33 Trump with every fiber of his being. And that's the biggest problem with a lot of these people, whether it's the Jake Tappers of the world, whether it's the Joe Scarborough of the world, they hate Trump so much. Even Megyn Kelly hated Trump because he remember that situation when he had blood coming down, but she at least has come out of TDS and defend the truth. So the question is, you know, talk about the red pill. Would you rather be lied to and people tell you what you want to hear? Or would you rather hear the truth, but people tell you what you don't necessarily want to hear? That's who Trump is.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So I fell for it. I see. And I'm like, I see what's happening in real time Where these people are not willing to admit that they basically the walking dead Joe Biden Was pulling a weekend at Bernie's and you defended him like he was completely cogent and cognitive First time, it upsets the hell out of me First time I had him when I speak I go to Miami not the first time When it got to the point where he calls me says Pat, I just want to drop everything I want to come and work with you and run with you. I go to Miami, not the first time. When it got to the point where he calls me, he says, Pat, I just wanna drop everything.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I wanna come and work with you and run with you. I wanna come to Texas. I'm like, you wanna do what? He said, I wanna come over to Texas. Well, are you okay with that? I'm like, look, take a flight out here, let us see what's gonna happen. He comes down and he's walking on,
Starting point is 00:56:36 and Adam, one of the most charming, charismatic guys you'll meet, everybody likes him. And then he leaves. So then I go to Miami and I meet with him, we're having lunch or something, I don't know where we were at. Then I fly back, by the way, that was a trip that I was shooting some videos,
Starting point is 00:56:49 but anyways, that's a whole different thing, I don't wanna get into that. Yeah, helicopter thing. And then I fly back and I call him and I say, so Adam, it's the interview, how do you feel about Trump? Adam's like, what do you mean? Do you remember this? How do you feel about him?
Starting point is 00:57:04 How do you really feel about him? Because you know how I feel about him this? How do you feel about it? How do you really feel about it? Because you know how I feel about it, but how do you feel about it? Well, you know, I don't know, I don't know. Watch this clip. This is podcast from four years ago. Go in and play this clip, Rob. Watch this. Let me go back to the question.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And Trump doesn't bring that out of question at all. For the fifth time. This is where the audience gets upset sometimes because you don't answer questions No matter what you say, you're not gonna convince me to vote for fucking That's when you lose people brother you can lose people okay, so this is and I voted for Trump this time But I'm sorry, but let me tell you I'm telling you guys He may be the biggest supporter now. Okay, then anybody in this room and so and here's the other part I want to add to this crazy. There are a lot of people like Adam
Starting point is 00:57:57 Adams not a high school dropout Adam had good grades. Adam went to college. Adam got a degree Adam, you know, was involved that he followed the news. You drop names, he knows congressman's names. From 30 years ago he'll drop them. So it's not like he hasn't been following it, but he's the guy that followed mainstream. And it leads to now Jon Stewart calling out Jake Tapper. Rob, if you got this clip, watch this one here. Jon Stewart's not a Trump guy. He cannot stand Trump. Watch Jon Stewart here. John Stewart's not a Trump guy. He cannot stand Trump. Watch John
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Starting point is 00:59:58 Looks like Tom a little bit different. Don't news people have to tell you what they know when they find it out? Isn't that the difference between news and a secret? You won't believe what we found out. No, that's why I'm watching. Breaking news! In a week! You're getting positive Rob, you're getting positive. So let me just say one thing about Jon Stewart. By the way, how much better is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart back? I know they had the DEI hire, um, I forget. No, Trevor Noah really bad, but they also have other people on that show that are Amazingly anti Trump amazingly. Are you familiar with the Asian guy? They have some incredible people there Jordan Klepper is great
Starting point is 01:00:55 The the the blonde girl they have some great people this guy Ronnie Chang right here Horrible horribly not funny, but here's what they're telling their audience. They say the fact that talking about the white genocide, we just basically had a conversation about that. He goes, you know how I know there's no white genocide? Cause Trump said there was a white genocide. So basically already saying if Trump said it, don't believe him. That's how he frames the entire conversation.
Starting point is 01:01:20 And this is what they think about you. If you vote for Trump, go to the part where they talk about the watch. Like some person got a Trump watch and it showed up and the T dropped off and it said Rump. Right? And he goes, I'm actually shocked that these people actually even know how to read. That's crazy. Like, this is what they think of a voter who votes.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, we're deplorable. So the tea dropped off and they're like, Oh my God, where's the tea? And then so it says rump ha ha ha. And he says, I actually didn't even expect them to read. And this is what they're doing. And the last point is this. And just to address exactly what you said, let me tell you, you say, I truly did not expect them to be able to read because they voted for Trump. Here are the conversations. You know, when it hit and like manifested the exact moment where I was like, Oh my God, I know I've been lied to, but now I'm already seeing what's going on.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Do you remember the Trump Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden? Right before this is the famous Tony Hinchcliffe Puerto Rico. We went to New York. That's when you did your interview with Pierce Morgan. And I would hear from all my friends. I can't believe you're in New York. You're at the not you're supporting Hitler. Unbelievable. I go, okay. The next night, we went to Mar-a-Lago. You were thereago you were there you were there We were all there to see the movie the the man you don't know Right. Yes. Okay, you guys left a little early that night When I tell you it was so pro Israel
Starting point is 01:02:57 It was so pro Netanyahu was so pro Judaism that I went up to Jewish people. I was like take it down a notch, buddy We're in America. I'm Jewish. So I'm with you I was like, take it down a notch, buddy. We're in America. I'm Jewish. So I'm with you. But take it down a notch. Let's be pro-America pro allies. So I'm telling my friends, arguing with them Jewish guys. I'm like, you know what? You fell for it guys. You're exactly who I was five years ago because I was at Moral Agro and it was the exact opposite of what they're saying about Nazi rallies. You fell for it. And Pat, question. You've written books. You've written multiple books. And this is, I had this before. We saw the John Stewart thing. How long does it take to write a book?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Oh, it takes a while. How long do you think it took Jake Tapper, the freaking hack that he is, the BS artist, and that guy to compile everything, if you have to say ballpark, how much to compile it, write it, rewrite it, editing, da-da-da, all that, just give me a time frame. Well in a case like this, I know where you're going, so I'm gonna say six months, but something like this could take 18 months. 18 months, maybe even more.
Starting point is 01:03:58 So he knew, he didn't do anything, and I'm happy that you were saying what you were saying during this, I don't want them to change. I want them to keep doing this ambush shit, keep doing all this Nazi, Hitler, all that. People are over it though. But over it, but let the, I don't want them to start sounding like they're, oh no, we've
Starting point is 01:04:16 all changed, we've all adjusted because the moment these people let their party back in power, every single thing that Trump has done is going to be undone. And that's why when I say Pat, they're the enemy, this party, and we have a bunch of stories that we're going to get into with assassinations and all that, this party has lost their freaking mind. They have no morals, they have nothing to stand on, and I don't think they can ever get back into power, period. Done deal.
Starting point is 01:04:39 It's horrible. I'm saying we shouldn't let them. Give me a policy that they're doing positive. No, no, no, I get what you're saying. Give me a policy that they're doing positive. No, no, I get what you're saying. Rob, can you play this? Here's the view reacting to Jake Tapper and then Tom, I'm gonna come to you
Starting point is 01:04:49 and I got something I'm gonna show you guys. A show that's gonna rival these guys that I want you to tell the world about and I got a clip of you of that to show you. Go ahead, Rob. Why is this important to know now? Yeah. Well that's all I can say.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Oh God. It's all right. If you see this to me, you know, we got a lot of's all right. It's all right. It's all right. As it seems to me, you know, we got a lot of stuff to be concerned about at the moment. No accountability. So I risk them? Yes, please. Okay, here's the Trumps atrocities.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I'm going to list them for you. Nice, but that's a little... Cutting Medicaid. Yeah. Well, this is what we're concerned about now. Oh, I got you. Okay. Cutting Medicaid, slashing funding for cancer research.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Oh, yeah. Rising prices because of tariffs, dismantling USAID, which helps children and people who are poor around the world, fears of recession, destroying due process, ending birthright citizenship, dismantling the Department of Education, rolling back regulations on air and water quality,
Starting point is 01:05:40 destroying our relationships with allies like Canada and the UK, and targeting his political opponents. Preach. And not only that, but he also said that Joe Biden has stage nine cancer. Oh really, where'd he come up with that? When is Joe Tapper gonna write a book
Starting point is 01:05:56 about the cognitive decline of the person who is in charge right now? Oh yeah, woo, you're so cool. No, Tom, you're fine. I wasn't as extreme as watching this ridiculous show, but I understand why people fall for their nonsense. Oh, Joy Behar died two years ago. No one told her, you know, what's interesting is they're going to lose their megaphone. They're losing their megaphone right now. And to Vinny, I'll
Starting point is 01:06:20 tell you the day it's very ironic. We were just talking about the Daily Show and there was something that John said at the end of that clip far at the end that I watched last night. It was interesting, Pat. He says, and why am I paying $30 to read in a book? What you should have told me three years ago for free. If you go find that there's a quote from John Stewart where he says free and why am I buying a book when you did three years ago? You should have told me for free so but remember remember Adam you'll remember this because I know you were up on media in this Remember when the people started doing surveys and they found out hey
Starting point is 01:06:55 Did you know that some of these? Gen X's are getting their news from the Daily Show more than they get it from anyone news sources Remember when those first things came out well guess what it what? It's a tsunami and we are causing it. This podcast, what we're doing is causing us. Check this out. The shift in cable as people get to Hulu and they go online and they don't even get cable anymore, the Gen Zs, they don't even buy cable. So guess what all the old cable going away and with it the unprofitable news Versant you know what versant is it's a company being spun out of Comcast and NBC and what are they putting in it USA? oxygen MSNBC and CNBC and CNBC
Starting point is 01:07:39 They say is the only real jewel because the way it covers business and it's actually a profitable point in there And it doesn't have a bunch of hosts with ten million dollar salaries. We'll get this It's being spun out as a thing called versant and now David's as love After he has lost NBA NBA was on Turner for how many decades and they've lost that NFL Sunday ticket is going to YouTube YouTube TV lost that. NFL Sunday ticket is going to YouTube, YouTube TV. The ice is melting below the feet of the cable empire and people are turning for their news elsewhere and David Zaslav has got to take Turner and CNN and spin them out and sell them at a garage sale and David Faber caught a whisper. He's a great...
Starting point is 01:08:22 I know somebody that'd be interested if it was a garage sale number I ready for this CNN this is David Faber was talking there's an article it's written this and then there was a attributed quote that they won't put the name on so he said there's a direct quote won't put the name on this is a this is a high-level media executive in the US. Zaslav has no choice. He has to spin it out and he has to keep CNN in the basket because the rest of the basket's worthless. CNN, quote, will be orphaned
Starting point is 01:08:54 without any real investment or future. I see no future in it, personally. So what they're talking about. I do, with the right owner. Yes, I agree with that. But the point is, with their current economics, why are they cutting everybody's salary? Because the viewership's down.
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Starting point is 01:09:41 Watch this clip here. Go ahead, Rob. I will call that MF her out. Girl, why were you raising money for Biden then? Watch this. Because I need to understand. I just told you. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I know you get real angry when people ask you that question. Anna! But you need to answer it. Okay, don't yell at me. No, no. Do you understand English? I just said I do. You're lying though.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Do you really think that we can trust Iran? Yes. We allow them to in... Anna! We had a new... Anna! I don't trust Iran. I know, but who cares? We deal with Saudi Arabia. We deal with the United States. We deal with the United States. We deal with the United States. Really think that we can trust Iran. Yes, allow them to in written. Yeah, we had a new and I don't trust wrong
Starting point is 01:10:06 I know but our government as we deal with Saudi Arabia and after 9-eleven I wanted to bomb the crap out of a rock and when is American policy no longer made in America I don't know because it's not because it has no effect on any Americans life who cares because we don't Make it in shot. Okay, Julian It doesn't affect any on any American's life. Who cares who the leader of the series is? Because women are made of marshy. Who's the leader? Who's the leader? Okay, Jillianne and I are the leaders. Who's the leader? It doesn't affect any American's life. I actually, I agree with Anne.
Starting point is 01:10:30 We're all human here, guys. But why is that a responsibility? Why do we need to be the sheriff in the entire world? We are so overrun here in America due to the illegal immigration. How are we meant to go and police on a government race from a country here? There's something else you want to hear, finally.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Shout out to Jillianne Michaels. How are we meant to go and pull these out of the way? There's something else we want you to find. Hahaha Shout out to Jillian Michaels. The fact that they're not agreeing on every single thing on why it's a real show. Rob, can you put the link below in the description? Guys, do me a favor. Please go support this show. We want the view to react to something that these guys are talking about because the direction America wants to go to is this direction. They want to see these types of discussions where people are sitting there arguing with
Starting point is 01:11:10 each other, debating with each other, and you get to see both sides of the story. If you want to see us take this thing even to more active show, maybe even soon do a live show with live audience attendance, go support the channel and subscribe to it. All right, let's get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story here. Let's get to the next story here. I'm trying to see which one to go with. Let's go with this one here. Dan Bongino drops truth bomb.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Vinny, it's a truth bomb. In FBI's assassination investigation, he's sitting with Cash Patel. They're asking about Epstein. Have we reacted to this yet? I don't know. We did do the Epstein. We did. This is a separate, it's from the same interview and it happened on the same day, but it got
Starting point is 01:11:49 overshadowed by the Epstein clip. This is where they talk about the July 13th shooting, attempted assassination of Donald Trump by Thomas Crooks. And this is where Dan Bongino says, if there was anything there that was bigger than just one guy doing it, I would tell you. Play this clip. You know what, Maria? Cash is not kidding.
Starting point is 01:12:09 We've been personally briefed extensively on every single detail, nugget, tendril of this case. One is actively in court right now, so out of respect for the case, it's probably more appropriate that I stay quiet on that. However, I'm not going tell people what they wanna hear. I'm gonna tell you the truth. And whether you like it or not is up to you. If there was a big explosive there there, right?
Starting point is 01:12:33 Given my history as a Secret Service agent and my personal friendship as a director does with the president, give me one logical sensible reason we would not have, if you can think of one, there there isn't there isn't there in some of these cases that there you're looking for Is not there and I know people I get it. I understand it's not There if it was there we would have told you Okay, Vinny. Okay thoughts and by the way, I got a clip by Alex Jones I want to show afterwards,
Starting point is 01:13:05 his reaction, and another clip of before and after but I want to go to you first. And Rob that was in reference to which assassination attempt? The July 13th Thomas Crooks, Butler, Pennsylvania. Okay, I don't know about you guys, I saw a couple of videos, body language professionals, what he said about the Epstein thing, and'll shoot. There are clips of Dan Bongino going in on everything and all the, and then now it just seems very calm. It seems like he doesn't want to be saying the words that heat that are coming out. Is this it Rob? Could we play this Rob? Yep. It's okay, Pat. Go for it. Yeah. Listen, um, that Jeffrey Epstein
Starting point is 01:13:40 story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this. Catherine Rummler, I want you, we need to keep the heat on this case, folks. There are a lot of people who are knee deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they shouldn't have been doing and you should be asking yourself the question, how is it that all these people, the CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore and nobody seems to want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal. He killed himself. Again, you want me to get... I've seen that. Okay, and listen. Pat, we've hung out with... I respect Dan Bongino immeasurably, but especially when it comes... Let's put the Epstein stuff to the side.
Starting point is 01:14:38 You mean to tell me Thomas Crooks, that case, just some white dude figured... By the way, flew a drone, nobody said nothing. He was walking around, there's footage of him pointing and doing this, police officers everywhere. He gets on the roof, people see him. There's secret service people in the building, okay? He does all that, he has six cell phones on him.
Starting point is 01:14:59 They get off, he's allegedly put off a shot. The parents are basically protected. And you want me to believe that just this random white kid set up in the perfect position and they all lied about the slanted roof. And out of all that, let's say even God forbid Trump was shot and he died there, what would have happened? Kim Cheadle would have stepped down
Starting point is 01:15:21 and got fired and case closed. Okay, I do not believe you. I understand they're in a different position, Tom, and there's certain things you can't say, but if you think us, the American people, are going to believe that this lone gunman BS story is true, you have another thing coming, all right? Period, period.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And the Epstein thing, Pat, I don't give a damn. Okay, kill themself, whatever, I don't believe the noise. Who gives a shit? What about the 10,000s of hours of young girls, of children getting raped and whatever? Those people are still walking around. You know what I mean? You have the footage. They're still in society and they're still walking around.
Starting point is 01:16:00 So how many more hours are you going to watch while these people walk free? That's what I don't understand. a fucking arrest give us one person one I don't care if it's bill gates. I don't care if it's bill. I don't give a shit. I want somebody give us somebody Tom I agree. I don't need to speculate You know why because pam bondi walked up to a microphone and said there are 10,000 or tens of thousands tens of thousands of videos and clips and we have to be careful about the identities. So I'm not out there, I'm not out there on that with a tin hat crazy train. I listened to Pam Bondi and I respect Pam Bondi, but I want her to finish up and put
Starting point is 01:16:37 some dates and timelines on what she came out and she told us. Where is this? And I also want to see if there are people there that are See I'm not as worried about a congressman that went to Epstein Island and had sex with a girl who was 17 not 19. I'm Worried less about that I want to know where are the people that were part of the feeder network that are running networks of this the people that were part of the feeder network that are running networks of this because they were in business and they're probably still in business trafficking kids to God
Starting point is 01:17:09 knows where. Those are the people that I once stopped because this was a criminal enterprise. There was a constant flow. So I'm not ready again to put on my tin hat and get all freaked out on one thing or the other or whether a senator did this with somebody or Prince Andrew, they called him Randy Andy. He already had a reputation. There's nothing more to the story of Andrew is that this guy was an entitled Royal who was just basically humping his way around the world. I'm not worried about that. I want to know where are these children now and I want to know where are the people that
Starting point is 01:17:46 we're trafficking them in because that's where it is. Yep, and exactly. Unlike, like Tom, I used to drink. I haven't drank. May 31st is going to be my two year mark, right? I have urges but not like that. These pedophiles that are on this camera, they don't stop being pedophiles. You don't recover from being, you know know you're not a recovering pedophilia guy
Starting point is 01:18:06 You know I mean like that's horseshit those people are still walking around Jones and they know who they are They know where they are watch this Tell us oh, we've closed it. He acted alone We have the files Don't if you're gonna crap on me or piss on me. Don't you know don't rub it in and don't tell me it's raining, okay? Please just I mean can you not just as a PR issue, will you stop it? Gosh. And my genome, I know obviously Dan, nobody's smarter than you, but if you want to go from being very popular to very unpopular and thus hurt Trump as well, just keep, keep
Starting point is 01:18:42 going. Keep going. Tough guy. Okay. I'm going to stop right there. I'm getting angry and it's very insulting. The American people to say Epstein killed himself. No one buys it. It's very insulting to say that that brainwashed mind control classic mind control operative act alone. Please stop. The one that trained with federal law enforcement trained all that his cell phone all around the federal building in DC, the FBI headquarters. Stop it. You're not going to do anything about it. Just shut up about it then. But that's only going to encourage the group inside the
Starting point is 01:19:27 government, the faction to try to kill the big guy again. I'm not trying to create some controversy. Alex Jones turns on Trump turns on the, it turns on Bungie. No, it's not that I just please don't insult us anymore. Please, please, please. God. I mean it's like getting up at a dinner party and taking a dump on a plate and tell her by its chocolate ice cream. I mean, you can pause it like that's what it is. That's what it is. Right?
Starting point is 01:19:55 Well, look, you might not like what I have to say Vinnie Tom. It's amazing to see people that were avid supporters of cash Patel and Dan Bongino just a week ago, a month ago, a year ago, completely turn on them. Because as he said, I'm not going to tell people what they want to hear. I'm going to tell you the truth. And whether you like it or not, it's up to you. I know people, I get it.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I understand it's not there. If I was there, I would have told you. So I'm going'm gonna take these people at their word unless you think they're a liar Because I had a conversation with somebody that's very in the know and he goes sometimes don't rule out sheer incompetence Don't rule out People just messing up Sometimes it's not a cover-up. it's just a complete screw-up. So there is, hold on, because I know you just want to talk and not listen.
Starting point is 01:20:49 I'm listening a lot. Because sometimes, incompetence is the world's most underrated mastermind. So you're saying you believe them? I would say... That Epstein killed himself. I'm talking specifically about Trump in the Butler situation. Oh, okay That's not what we're talking about. Yeah, go Butler and then go Epstein. I will do that. Okay So I know a lot of people want to say all
Starting point is 01:21:17 It was the FBI was a CIA. They did this. That's the director of the FBI I think you would know now now he is so I think you would know okay So I just find it hilarious that the person that everyone was so in favor of once they tell you What they know and the truth and it's not what you want to hear now You have an issue with them on this particular situation Who has and I love you who do I think has more credibility? Who has and I love you who do I think has more credibility? Cash Patel Dan Bongino or Vinny. Okay. I love you. I know where you're gonna go with them Okay, but you're gonna say no, what am I gonna say? You're gonna say well, I don't believe them. No, I don't believe them
Starting point is 01:21:56 I don't believe them is Adam. I tend to believe them. You could talk the talk. I'm not talking anything You believing that you I'm saying they can make all the Then Adam, then once they come in and the tune changes, yeah we're gonna talk shit. So you're saying they're compromised. No, no, I don't slow proof bullshit, none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. And I understand they have the behind the scenes and all the facts and everything. You can't tell me that Thomas Crooks with his six cell phones and his parents being protected, and his apartment being wiped out clean, okay, and all that information he acted by himself.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Adam, because you know what I believe in? Going back to the spirituality is evil. Evil, the left, that party, the deep state, I'm not saying all Democrats, their goal was to kill Trump, plain and simple. And it failed the first time, they did the switcheroo with Kamala, then Ryan Routh, Mr. Ukraine lover, weird, they, Ukraine,
Starting point is 01:23:06 you think Zelensky and them love Trump? No, they would have loved to have this guy taken out to get the money keep flowing in, okay? I'm just not naive, Adam, those two guys look like they've, they've been told to shut the hell up. So they're compromised. They might be compromised, Adam. When it comes to the Epstein thing, my question to you,
Starting point is 01:23:22 do you think in this four years, we're gonna find out anything about Epstein or we're going to get any closer to the truth? I hope so. But you might not. What do you think? Do you think we're going to get anything like from today? Do you want me to answer the question? Yeah, May 22nd. No, May 22nd till Trump is gone. Anything? I would hope so, but it's also probably doubtful because in my opinion, they don't want certain names who were on that island to come out.
Starting point is 01:23:51 And what's the reason they don't want those things to come out? The system will collapse. I'm assuming is those people probably run the world or at the very least run the country. Vinny, you're going this way and you're very clear about what you just said I need to summarize it and Adams very clear on that What I said is they both looked a little bit a little bit stiff and a little bit uncomfortable there But I don't I'm not an expert. I don't know how to read that but I but I looked at Comfortable however, I my point was I just want Pam Bondi to finish the sentence She started when she walked to the microphone without speculation. So I'm probably you know that that's where I'm at
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's like okay Pam then tell us and then let's go after the criminal enterprise that was trafficking the kids because can I ask PBD? Because basically what we're saying is the following Do you believe cash and Dom and Dan Bongino or not? So in my opinion, I actually believe them. So, cause you're basically saying, no, they're not telling me what I think. So now I don't believe them and there's nothing you can tell me otherwise.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Do you think these guys have high credibility? Do you think they've been compromised since they entered office? Dan Bongino said, please don't stop investigating this. If you're running a couple of entrepreneurial organizations or the owners that are talking about it, he specifically said that pre-getting in, his words, right? So his words conflict with today's words.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Now, that doesn't mean that can't happen. Many times, you know, you will, like for example, the whole story with The Rock going to Vince McMahon saying, I need you to pay me $2 million a year. And then he says, wait a minute, do you know how we make money here? He says, no, so why do you want me to pay you 2 million? Because you just you to pay me $2 million a year.� And then he says, �Wait a minute. Do you know how we make money here?� He says, �No.� He says, �Why do you want me to pay you $2 million?� �Because you just said you pay Stone Cold a million.
Starting point is 01:25:29 I want to get $2 million.� Vince says, �Would you mind the next 90 days working with our CFO in the accounting department to find out exactly how we make profits and how much our events cost?� �I don't mind doing it.� Goes through, comes back, says, �You know what? After finding out exactly how you guys make money, you don't make a lot of money, it's a lost deal. I'll only take a million bucks.� He says, �Great, but if you drive next year� he says, �You know how much money you made? How much money did I make?� �I made $15 million. You've got to be kidding me.� �No.� He says, �I don't want guys make money. You don't make a lot of money, it's a lost deal. I'll only take a million bucks. And he says, great, but if you drive, next year, he says, you know how much money you made?
Starting point is 01:25:47 How much money did I make? I made 15 million bucks. You gotta be kidding me, no. Because you finally went in and saw the numbers. I'll give some credence to that. It's like when somebody wants to buy a company, oh, it's worth 200 million dollars. You do quality earnings, it's only worth 92 million dollars.
Starting point is 01:26:00 It's only worth 80. We're trying to buy this building here. The guy says, we'll sell it to you for $75 million. I said, really? Yeah. I said, I'll make a $60 million cash offer. Well, our net income, what is it, net income revenue, whatever, what was the net income rentals?
Starting point is 01:26:13 The net rentals they had was $5.2 million. Great. The moment the offer was made, they had to show it. That $5.2 million very quickly became a couple million dollars. We're like, wait a minute, why would I pay you $60 million if it's only making this kind of money? So there is the element of finding out after you get in. However, however, however, for me,
Starting point is 01:26:33 you know, you have two of the biggest supporters of not believing what happened with Epstein. You want us now to believe it? You want us now to believe that the people that were trying to take out Trump, nothing happened there? There's a part of me that believes Trump is behind all of this, not in the way that you think about it. There's a part of me that thinks Trump's behind all of this because Trump wants to use this
Starting point is 01:27:00 as a leverage of negotiating against the enemy. So think about it this way. What if they had proof on what happened with Crooks? Should you drop it now or do you need to hang on to that for the next four years to have control and authority? What happens if you hang on to that? You're saying he's playing his cards close to the vest. All I'm saying is if he knows something
Starting point is 01:27:20 and he's doing misdirection. If I knew Crooks was an asset that was mind control tied to somebody, somebody else was working with them, why would I release it now? Why does he need that ammunition right now? He doesn't need it yet. He's going to need it. Trust me, the war hasn't even started yet on what they're going to try to do to destroy this guy. The war, next year, I keep saying 2026 is going to be the greatest year in the history of America with July, June 15th being his 88th and 250 America's birthday, then World Cup coming
Starting point is 01:27:49 here. They're going to do everything in their power to make him and America look bad. He needs all of these pieces, all these cards for next year. All of them. My opinion. If I'm the president, I'm not going to leak that information today. I'm hanging on to it to know when we're going to drop the news. And when we do, it's got to be at a time that I'm going to destroy your party.
Starting point is 01:28:12 I'm going to make sure the world knows about what you're doing. You best get your act together, or else. You don't think he's capable of talking like that behind closed doors? So to me, all I'm thinking about is that, right now he's saying, guys, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, delay, saying guys delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay delay because I'm gonna need to stuff the next floor in three years. Delay all of it. I'm gonna need it the next three years because shits gonna get nasty the next three years. It's going to. But can I respond real quick?
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah. I think the way you think is incredible and that's admirable because a lot of people don't think that. Like you wrote a book, you know, your next five moves, you're thinking five, ten, fifteen moves ahead and Trump would be doing that in this regard. He's for sure thinking like that. So my only counter argument would be then why come out and make a statement that he didn't do it? All you would have to say is it's still under investigation and we'll get back to you. Because what this does is this stops it. It's like done go Now we're talking yeah, but yeah, but you know what you could do later on you could say you want to believe what you just got
Starting point is 01:29:12 We got new Information that we never had before To you're bringing back These are professional communicators this is not a This is not a regular, like, these guys that do this job, you have to learn how to do this. The enemy is watching every single one of your moves. Remember, we have freedom of speech. China does not.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Iran does not. Russia does not. We have freedom of speech. What is the benefit of not having freedom of speech? Your enemy is not able to see what you're doing. What is the benefit of having freedom of speech? You can't silence people that wanna say stuff like we're saying right now.
Starting point is 01:29:49 If we had no freedom of speech, I can't even say what we just said right now. Because some might go, well listen, these guys are Trumpsters. This is not a good look. We're not sitting here saying we agree. So this is the part where the audience is kinda like, so what are you guys?
Starting point is 01:30:01 Are you for it or are you not for it? No, look, we voted for certain things we wanna know. But having said that, Vinny, I still understand the idea of knowing, keeping the card because you know they're gonna try to destroy you. I get that, but I'm not comfortable with any leverage, any negotiations with kids being raped. Like, if the information is there, we deserve,
Starting point is 01:30:27 those kids deserve justice now. If it's a leverage tool with Trump and he's biding his time, I am 1000% not comfortable with that. Biding and waiting and like saving it, I understand it's a tactic move and he's trying to save it for the end game, but we're talking about kids that are on camera getting raped and they have it and it's a I am 1000%
Starting point is 01:30:49 against that if that's the case there is a reason why there's a when you when you choose to become the leader of the free world there's only 46 people that have been able to do it it's not a job for everybody, okay? When you get that job, it's very easy for everybody to act emotionally about everything. You're not cut out to be a president. You're too emotional to be a president. Make sense? The job isn't for everybody.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Are you talking to Vinny on that one? Oh, I would be horrible. No, no, Vinny is good. I love America, but I'd have a heart attack in two weeks. Vinny is a guy, you go to war and you say, go kill everybody. That's the bad guy. That's Vinny.
Starting point is 01:31:28 Vinny will get the job done. Guys, metaphorically speaking, of course. Of course, but all I'm saying is to be a president, you know, it's kinda like this. How do you do with blood? Meaning what? Could you be a heart surgeon? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Blood doesn't bother you. Blood doesn't bother me? You can cut skin, open up, do stuff, doesn't do anything for you. Do you remember when you were in boot camp and you had to give IV to somebody else? Yeah. Okay, how many people passed that when you had to give IVs? A lot of people were just full out. That would have been me.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Big guys would pass that. Like you have to give IV to another guy. There were linebackers that were passing out left and right. But what happened before they went in? Oh, it's going to do nothing for me, dog. I'm going to be the one to touch your dog. I'm going to be tough guy. And I was like, oh shit, the gangster I'm gonna be the one to talk to a dog. I'm gonna be talking to a guy.
Starting point is 01:32:05 And I was like, oh shit, the gangster just passed out. What happened to the gangster? No, there is talking, and then there's you go in, and you see the blood, and the average person can't handle it, and then the surgeon just cuts, boom, boom, can you give me this, boom, boom, boom. So what happened today? So can you give me that, boom,
Starting point is 01:32:23 can you take this heart over here, put it here, Boom. Okay. Boom. Let me see this. Boom. Only 1% of people can do that job. Less than 1%. To be a president, it's not 1%. It's less than 0.000000001% can do the job. And to be able to do that job, you have to be able to see blood, chaos, travesty, nasty, bunch of stuff, and you're not being emotional to go out and react like an emotional human being. It's not the job for everybody. I understand what you're saying. It's a very noble way of viewing it. I am right there with you. We're together when something happens with the kids. We react in the same exact way
Starting point is 01:33:05 But you lose the ability to react that way when you're the president You have to be more intentional. I understand No, less than 1% of people are gonna agree with what I'm saying right now. Trust me They're gonna be like this is the part that I'm gonna side with Vinny. I get it me too Even though I'm debating, I'm siding. But you have to understand, this is a very, very difficult job and there's some phases of this job that you have to be what? Do you know what it is?
Starting point is 01:33:36 Do you know what is one of the most important qualities to be able to be the president of the free world? You have to be ice cold. You have to be ice cold. You have to be ice cold. No, you have to be ice cold. Ice cold. To see what they did. They did that? Is this what they're doing? Okay, no problem. We'll never forget this. But let me tell you what we've got going on. When is that event coming up? In seven months. In seven months we're going to do this and put it in front of their faces so everybody sees it, but hang on till the seven months. Hang on till the seven
Starting point is 01:34:06 months. That speech that Trump showed today in front of South Africa yesterday he showed. How long has that been going on? Long time. How come he didn't show it earlier? How come he just showed it now? He's known about this. Is that a bad person? You have to wait till timing. You have to wait till timing to take somebody out. I watched a movie many years ago by the actor. What's his name? The guy that played 300. What is the guy's name? Gerard Butler. Yeah, he played a movie of a guy that I believe killed his daughter. He kills his daughter And this is a regular guy that goes out there and prepares for his vengeance
Starting point is 01:34:40 for Yours this one law-abiding citizen. I don't know if it's that one or not. No, it's not. Gerard Butler. Was Jennifer Anderson in it? So he prepares for this movie Revenge. Just happened Revenge movie. Gerard Butler Revenge movie.
Starting point is 01:34:54 I think it was him. So he does a lot of, I don't know if that's that, so maybe it wasn't Gerard Butler. He prepares for this revenge on this guy and he eventually buys a property behind his property of where he works. He starts developing a surgery center. He learns how to do surgery. Then eventually he befriends this guy, brings him in, sets him in there, drinks something, passes out, is laying on the bed, wakes him up to stay awake so he doesn't fall asleep, gives him a medicine and he conducts surgery while he's alive feeling everything with the
Starting point is 01:35:31 pain. Saying this is what you did to my daughter. Jesus. That took 10 years. That's the movie. That's it? Yeah. Is that the story of what I just said?
Starting point is 01:35:41 Is that the one? Yeah. He waits 10 years to do this to the person 10 years later. Look at this, I haven't seen this movie for 15 years. Ten years later, he gets his revenge on the person that did what they did to his family. How soon do you want it? Do you think this guy wanted to kill the guy that killed his wife and daughter? How soon?
Starting point is 01:36:00 Tomorrow. But this is the way to do it. This is the way to do it. This is the way to do it. And to be that ice cold and patient, it's not for everybody. The irrational, emotional person is not capable of running the free world. You're just, it's not for everybody.
Starting point is 01:36:15 It's a very tough job. And I understand where he's at. I don't understand what Bongino and Cash and some of these other guys are at. I respect these guys. They're formidable guys in the space, and hopefully they'll come through and do their part. But I know where cash and some of these other guys are right. I respect these guys. They're Formidable guys in the space and hopefully they'll come through and do their part But I know where he's at and he doesn't have a job. That's for everybody. It's my position. I'll go to the next one. All right Ron DeSantis, can we talk about this? Yeah, Ron DeSantis. This is from the Guardian
Starting point is 01:36:38 Fall from grace. He's completely crashed to the ground. Okay, so let's go over here He's completely crashed to the ground. Okay, so let's go over here Crash to the ground Rob. Do you have a video on this or what is it? I do and this is regarding the Hope, Florida Investigation into Ron DeSantis. What is that? By the way, it says it here as well It's losses grip on the state legislature, Florida Republican House Speaker Daniel Peres accusing him of telling lies and stories that never happened in this Displaying temper tantrums political science professor Aubrey Jett noted that he's completely crashed to the ground at the point of certainly being treated like a more standard average governor now, citing DeSantis' autocratic style as a factor.
Starting point is 01:37:16 DeSantis faced backlash over a $10 million charity scandal involving his wife, Casey DeSantis, Hope Florida nonprofit with Perez questioning his transfer to political action committees while DeSantis dismissed the legislative agenda as pathetic absurd. At one point Casey looked like she was going to be the heir apparent around DeSantis, but a potential 2020's gubernatorial run is now challenged by Trump endorsed Congressman Byron Byron Donalds. Rob, what is this? This is Governor DeSantis. I believe this was yesterday when he signed the stop swatting bill here in the state of Florida to ban swatting incidents where, you know, the SWAT teams are called your house under fake premises and they break in your home.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And this is where he discusses the Hope Florida investigation into he and his wife. He discusses it? Yes. He actually calls out the guy who is opening the investigation. Go for it. Uh-oh. ... is going to be providing... Just understand what he says.
Starting point is 01:38:08 Just understand what's going on here, because I think you guys kind of twist and try to create narratives... Rob, I can't hear you. You have the one state... It's his mic, it's the guy's mic. ... that has a political agenda, and he has a political agenda to try to smear Hope, Florida, to try to smear people associated with the administration, even my wife, who's done a great job for this state, by the way. Not
Starting point is 01:38:28 just on Hope Florida. Not just on Hope Florida, saving taxpayers $100 million, getting 30,000 people off means tested welfare. Show me someone else in this country that has been able to do that. Not just that. The cancer initiative and the collaborative and the innovation fund. She obviously has experience with that. Also, she led the effort on school mental health. She worked with people like Ryan Petty and all this. You know how much she's ever gotten from anything she's ever done? Not one red cent, not one. She has led an initiative to help people and you have one jackass in the legislature. I'm sorry, it's true, who's trying to smear her, smear good people. And
Starting point is 01:39:15 just understand what happened. He took documents and he dropped them in a prosecutor's office. That is not an organic investigation. That's a manufactured political operation. That's all this is. Somebody with an agenda dropped off documents and that's all that that custodian of record said. There is no basis to do an investigation on these facts. Everybody knows it. Everybody knows that this is political.
Starting point is 01:39:45 And I can tell you, she is more determined than ever to make a difference in the lives with Hope Florida. I'm more committed to Hope Florida than I've ever been. And I think that I'm used to. Okay, Tom, what do you think is going on here, DeSantis? Well, there's definitely political stuff going back and forth. And I think the guy
Starting point is 01:40:05 that he referred to as a jackass he's talking about the Republican House Speaker Daniel Perez, I think so, because Perez says he said the media that he accused DeSantis of quote telling lies and stories that never happen and having quote temper tantrums unquote. So that's from Daniel Perez. So I had not thought, I have not seen this particular clip in the research I did for this story, I didn't see that. And I had thought he was more quiet than that. But that was a full blown defense
Starting point is 01:40:40 that you just saw right there. And this is political. But now the real question is, it can be political and there also can saw right there. And this is political, but now the real question is, it can be political and there also can be something there. And Hope, Florida, you know, it would seem to me that all you have to say is, hey, come audit the books. Did 10 million go somewhere that it shouldn't have gone? That's all you have to say.
Starting point is 01:41:02 You know, he dropped it off here, he did that, that could be true, but you can also just say, you know what, let's have a hearing and let's audit this. And I'd like DeSantis to see that. Now the other side of it is the guy who said he's completely crashed the ground, that's a political science professor saying that. And that's an opposite, it's a pundit observation from the outside. So I don't know, but it sure seems like a lot of people are ticked off, including DeSantis,
Starting point is 01:41:29 and if there's nothing to this, have a hearing, open the books, and clear it up. Who runs Hope Florida Foundation? I thought that it is Casey DeSantis established it, and she's on the board along with as you would imagine people that have worked with and for the government the gubernatorial campaigns foundation was established in August 2023 the whole foundation nonprofit affiliated with Florida's First Lady Casey DeSantis is
Starting point is 01:41:59 overseen by board of directors has seen 2025 board includes Joshua Hay president Fatima Perez, Tina Vidal-Dort, Stephanie White, Wendy Nisan. In 2025, the foundation faced scrutiny over $10 million donation received from a Medicaid settlement with Centinine Corporation. The funds were subsequently distributed to two nonprofits, which then contributed to political committees opposing a marijuana legislation ballot measure cause governor dissent is opposed amid the controversy several leadership changes occurred Eric Dellenbeck who had been serving as the executive director
Starting point is 01:42:35 of Hope Florida program resigned from its position May 20 25 board members Mohammed Jazeel and Jake Farmer also resigned from the foundation the foundation's leadership acknowledged opposing these developments are prominent upon ongoing investigations. Yeah, I mean, the easiest thing to do is to just show kind of what happened here. Because if you don't, then they're saying this is gonna be the Bill and the Hillary Clinton
Starting point is 01:42:52 of the right. That's the last thing you wanna do. What they're saying, 10 million left, and it went to a donation, and then those donations went to PACs. You can't do that. You're bouncing the money. You see what I mean? It's like if I gave you five million and I said, oh I just paid
Starting point is 01:43:10 Vinnie a consulting fee for two years for you know media and other things like that And then you turned around and donated that to a PAC that was Supporting something that and I'm screaming about education in schools and you gave it to a pack that's putting money out there for education in schools You see that conflict of interest. Yeah. Yeah, well and it also kind of it's the way money This is what we've talked about Ukraine. Yeah money goes along rain and it comes back into us Packs or it comes back into us defense contractors that then really like senator Oshana for some reason. Vote for me. Just show it and say that's not what happened. If there is a guy that knows
Starting point is 01:43:51 you're gonna get caught with this, wasn't he a lawyer in the military? He was a JAG lawyer. Yep. Wasn't he, I mean he's been... Judge, advocate, general. Yeah he's been he's been doing this for a minute. Doesn't he know this is a probably not a good idea? The last thing you want to be is the Bill and Hillary Clinton of the right. You don't want this to be your white water. No, you run. So anyways, I'll give my final thoughts.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Adam, your thoughts on this before we wrap up. Yeah, this seems like a job for Dogeman to show up and figure out what the hell is going on here. Because this is not a good look for De Santas then again could this just be a political hit job there's some truth to this I don't know here's what I do know in 2024 legalization of marijuana was on the ballot in Florida and it's been inching closer and closer and closer in Florida and it failed yet again and it passed in Nebraska which is I would assume a little bit more conservative than
Starting point is 01:44:50 Florida so I don't know what the hell is going on with these initiatives but in my opinion I would like to see marijuana legalized in Florida I think marijuana is a way less addictive way less dangerous substance than alcohol I think the worst thing you can do on marijuana is like not do shit for a little bit. Okay enough on marijuana. Do you think it hurts or helps DeSantis? I would love you to do one of your bong noises right now to coincide with this. But this is not a good look for DeSantis or Casey and I don't know what's going on with it. Let me tell you. But Byron Donalds is running for governor, so we'll see what he has to say about this.
Starting point is 01:45:26 Here's a challenge I have with this here. He doesn't give me the vibes that he's capable of doing something like this. So look, a lot of DeSantis people cannot stand me. They cannot stand me because they blame me for the end of his campaign and you, the last day his campaign was when he came on your podcast and everybody talked about the shoe gate and all boot gate and all this stuff and you're the one that did this. Okay, I got it.
Starting point is 01:45:54 Trust me, I get it till today, the Santos people walk up to me and we talk and all this other stuff. I said, don't blame his lack of marketing on me. One podcast, okay, he made very bad moves when it comes down to marketing. But as much as I see that as a terrible marketer, I don't see the guy doing something like this. I don't see him as a criminal.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I don't see him as doing anything like this. Now, let me give you the other part that is a problem sometimes, which is why I prefer people who have been in business and have made money that eventually have high level positions that they're running states. You know why I like that? Because when you run a business, you've gone through plenty of lawsuits and you've had issues and you've made money and you're not tempted to for $100,000 or half a million
Starting point is 01:46:42 dollars or $5 million or $2 million, you know, you're like, whatever, I don't need any of that stuff, I've already made the money, I don't need the money from you, right? It allows you to be a little bit free. But sometimes when you're in moments like this, how many parties do you think he's gone to where he's around rich people?
Starting point is 01:46:56 So many. All of them. All of them. And how many times do you think he comes home with his wife and is like, you know what? Wow, when are we gonna have some money? You know what, why don't we do this? Everybody else does this.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Why don't we do it? They're doing this, how about we make some money? It's about time with all the service that we make some money here. And I don't even know how they made money here. How's the money made here, Tom? What does this do? Like can we find out what her salary is with Hope Forward Initiative? Kickbacks, flush funds.
Starting point is 01:47:24 That's always the issue with nonprofits, profits is sorry and then getting paid to speak Yeah, what is Casey DeSantis is income from hope it should be public right from hope. What is it called? Hope of Florida. What is it called? Hope what give me the name Hope, Florida Hope Florida. Oh, it's not telling you Does it show you what her salary? It says first lady Casey DeSantis does not receive a salary from the Hope Florida. Oh, it's not telling you. Does it show you what her salary? It says first lady Casey DeSantis does not receive a salary from the Hope Florida Foundation. That's what I'm saying. Look, I spent some time with him and three, four hours just to watch how she is. They don't give me the vibe that they're doing this. They give me the
Starting point is 01:48:00 vibe that they love America. They give me the vibe that they're very ambitious. They give me the vibe that he's a very good fighter, that he fights, he's just not as good of a marketer and stage guy as Trump is. He's not. And by the way, this could also be some of the people that are wanting more Byron Donnells than him to win. This could be a very simple little thing
Starting point is 01:48:21 that you throw in there that you know There's no reason to Shoot at him politically because there's just gonna be he's term limits works though I know it does but Casey can't run because this this goes with her and they want Casey to run and by the way I'm not even a fan of Casey running I'm not even like you know I see that angle so they neutralize. Yeah, they're trying to eliminate her running It's actually a good strategy, but it's deceptive and dark. Yeah, and you got to get ahead of it There is five percent chance that I believe they're capable of Doing something this dumb
Starting point is 01:48:58 to Tarnish a good reputation that they have do they have a reputation of being arrogant and not calling Trump? Yes. Do they have a reputation of being a little bit insecure and trying to seem bigger than they really are? Yes. But do they have a reputation of running the state incredibly well during COVID
Starting point is 01:49:16 and making the world want to come here? Yes. So I have a hard time with this one. I have a hard time with this one, but if there's proof, there's proof. If she's not taking any income, so how did this financially benefit? I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:29 I don't know what's going on here, but we'll find out. We'll find out as stories come out. Okay, let's go to the next story. California, we haven't forgotten about you guys. Every time we don't do stories about California, people in California get upset. Let us do a story for you guys to excite you a little bit.
Starting point is 01:49:42 State Farm not satisfied with the 17% rate hike in California. They're asking for nearly 30%. And you know California politicians are not going to be okay with this, but Tom's got an opinion on this. So the 17% hike, California homeowners plans to request an additional 11% to get nearly to 30%. San Francisco Chronicle reported a week after securing approval to raise home insurance
Starting point is 01:50:00 rates by 17%. State Farm General revealed plans to ask regulations for an additional 11% following an emergency approval by Commissioner Ricardo Lara due to recent LA fires. California wildfire victims criticized State Farm for low ball and damage estimates of practice. Senator Josh Hawley said the company has been accused of in other US disasters.
Starting point is 01:50:21 Despite this, Lara granted the 70% hike, 17% hike, effective June, though State Farm originally sought 30% increase in June 2024, Tom. Well, this story won't die, and the reason it won't die is because the problem can't die easy, and it won't die easy. And so State Farm is saying, I need more money to run my company effectively
Starting point is 01:50:44 and provide coverage in California, and I think State Farm is saying, I need more money to run my company effectively and provide coverage in California. And I think State Farm was frustrated that they didn't get the increase they wanted, but they saw the backlash. They saw what's going on in the media. They saw that the consumer, the people that were surveyed was like, hell no, I don't want to be put on Fair Plan by accident. So it's like, Pat, you and I could own houses in Malibu and get forced on the Fair Plan. Now we have no choice. And we're like, wait, we don't want to be on Fair Plan by accident. So it's like, Pat, you and I could own houses in Malibu and get forced on the Fair Plan.
Starting point is 01:51:06 Then we have no choice. We're like, wait, we don't wanna be on Fair Plan. Sorry, dude, you get Fair Plan, which has a cap, remember? Cap of $3 million to $3.5 million. I think it's being raised to four of coverage for your house. So Vinny, if you're forced to go on Fair Plan and you have a $10 million house in Malibu,
Starting point is 01:51:22 guess what happens? Burns the ground, you get $4 million,, three million from Fair Plan and the rest you eat because you're rich and you can afford it. But there's a lot of people that are frustrated by that and so I think State Farm read the tea leaves and said, you know, if we leave California, Newsom and everybody here have got more trouble. And let's face it, State Farm wants to operate at a profit, but they have paid out record amount of dollars. Now, to Josh Hawley's point, have those payouts
Starting point is 01:51:53 been fair for each and every policyholder? Like, did you, you needed 400 for your house, and they said, here's 360, take it or leave it, and you had to eat the 40. You know, that happens a lot with adjusters. But this is State Farm saying, look, you want me to, there's a little bit of State Farm can do this at gunpoint now, and there's a little bit of California
Starting point is 01:52:14 kind of screwed this thing up, and now you've got this playing out. This wouldn't be happening if California had good management of the infrastructure systems of the water systems or reservoir systems a Well and a well vetted and well equipped a fire department. They would have been ready for this with the with the wind You know driving those fires still caused tremendous damage Yes, but would have been tremendously less and you wouldn't have State Farm on the brink of leaving the state Which puts all these people in
Starting point is 01:52:45 A pinch so you know what I'd love to see you know because I have sat down with people that have brought me Business plans so is Pat I'd loved Gavin Newsom to sit down and say look you've got aspirations to run on a national stage But what's your business plan for California? How do you make this work? Take me through the plan. How do you deal with the big three in California, which right now is border, homelessness, insurance. Those are like the three that are bouncing around, regardless of who you survey.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I'd love to see Gavin Newsom sit down with somebody and talk about what are you gonna do? And set aside some of your hand gestures and stuff, and just sit down with somebody and talk about what are you going to do? And you know, set aside some of your hand gestures and stuff and just sit down and say, here's the fix for insurance in California. Because I, you know, I got a lot of friends that still live there that are asking that exact question. Adam. So it really sucks to live in California from a math perspective.
Starting point is 01:53:41 I get it that there's mountains and there's beaches and it's you can ski and surf on the safe day, but to live and to afford California, show me how the math is mathing on this one, guys. Here are just some quick numbers for you. The median household income for America is $80,000. The median household income in California is $90,000. Okay, so it's a $10,000 difference. Now let's talk about homeownership. The average homeownership in America is between $400,000 and $500,000. So if you're looking at a home in California, that's going to cost you between $800,000 and $900,000. So it's almost double the price of a house and the rest of America, $1,000 so it's almost double the price of a house and the rest of America, but the average income is
Starting point is 01:54:32 20% more how the hell do you afford to live in California? What opinion do you have specific about this? So now you own this house and now you can barely afford it. So now you have to pay 30% premium on insurance that you didn't necessarily account for. So this is just a math issue. You know what this reminds me of? It's almost like the reverse COVID thing. Yeah, but let me ask you this though. But here's the question though. You're the governor of Florida. You're the governor of California.
Starting point is 01:54:53 Sure. All right. Here we go. I'm State Farm. And I tell you, hey, Gavin, respectfully, if we can't go to 30%, I'm at a loss. My board is not going to let me stay here, I have to leave the state and I'm gonna have to give you 12 months. So I can't afford to pay all these fire stuff that just happened and I can't comfortably
Starting point is 01:55:12 stay here. It's costing the company a lot of money and it's making it very challenging. So what can we do here? Well is State Farm the only option? They have a few options but they've lost a lot of options. Who else have we lost? You wanna know how many? They've lost a lot of options. Who else have we lost? You wanna know how many, they've lost a handful of options.
Starting point is 01:55:29 A lot of options, but you already know you have a homeowner's insurance problem in the state of California. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, what business are we in? We're the insurance business, but not only in the insurance business, we're in the brokerage business, right?
Starting point is 01:55:40 So what happens when only one carrier is the only option? Well, you're gonna get screwed because you only have one option. One of the best things in life is having options. So you work through a wholesaler or a BGA or an agency and it says you have 10 different options. In 2022, Allstate paused sales of new homeowners and homeowners in California due to wildfire risk and higher operational costs. This is 2022. Before the fire, Farmers Insurance Group began limiting coverage in California in 2023, and one of its subsidiaries, Farmer's Direct Property and Casualty Company, withdrew from
Starting point is 01:56:09 the state entirely later that year. Nationwide, a company informed California in 2023 that it would stop renewing all of its homeowners insurance policies in the state by June of 2025. Next month, CHUB announced in 2021 it would significantly reduce homeowners coverage in California pointing to wildfire risk. Hartford stopped writing new homeowners insurance policies early 2024. This is a year ago. American National announced in 2023 it would stop offering homeowners insurance policies
Starting point is 01:56:37 in California. Travelers announced it would not renew homeowners insurance policies for thousands of California properties in 2022 and 2023 due to wildfire risk. This is all before the big fire that happened in Malibu Palace, Verde. So your options, they're all leaving. Exactly. So what do you do?
Starting point is 01:56:56 You're the governor. So listen, what's the basic premise of economics? Supply and demand. Demand is super high because you need homeowners insurance because, you know know fires are burning down your house and the supply is completely limited. So who gets screwed here? The average person that just wants a house. How the hell can they afford it? That was my initial point. Is that the homeownership already cost so much. You haven't answered my question. I get your argument. What do you do if you're Newsome in the, Tom what do you do if you're Newsome in this situation?
Starting point is 01:57:23 Gavin Newsome, I have to. I ask you publicly, we're doing the interview similar to the way Megyn Kelly did with Jake Tapper you have to ask the question your state farm goes to 17 they're still at a loss okay they are still at a loss if you don't take him to 30 they're shutting down like nationwide like farmers like all state like others what are you gonna do governor? If I'm Newsom, this is not a politically good answer, but this is what he has to say. And I'm not going to imitate him, you can do that, but he's got to say there's going to be some short term pain because I got to give a state farm the rate increase.
Starting point is 01:57:59 And I'm meeting with all the insurance companies and I'm talking about a multi-billion dollar plan for forestry management and reservoir management and I'm putting these things in place in these bordered areas so that we can reduce the risk of loss when wildfires happen. And I'm putting pressure on PG&E for more active forestry management in the smaller communities like where they had those wildfires and entire communities of three, four thousand homes were wiped out. So I have to put it in two sides. California, we're gonna have pain,
Starting point is 01:58:32 but I am, because I gotta authorize this, otherwise you don't have carriers to offer it. I'm gonna talk to the other carriers and I'm gonna show them what California's doing with active programs to reduce the risk of loss because wildfires will happen but we can have reservoirs, we can have more fire teams, we can have response rates that are going to be there to react to it so it reduces the loss. If I'm governor that's what I have to do and I've got to sit down with travelers and say
Starting point is 01:59:00 will you at least renew this percent? So now I'm going to turn around with the question with Gavin Newsom, and you're the governor, I'm gonna say, that's a great answer, and that's fair, but let me show you this other thing here. This is as of seven months ago, 10 months ago, California's home to nearly 40 million people, 55% of whom are estimated to own homes. If you are a current prospective California homeowner,
Starting point is 01:59:22 finding home insurance may be a challenge. In fact, the California Association of Realtors' 2023 annual housing market survey found that nearly 7% of real estate deals in the state fell out of escrow because buyers couldn't afford insurance. So Gavin Newsom, question for you. If State Farm is asking for a 17% rate, that means with their current rate, 7% of buyers are still falling through. What will this 7% be if you allow State Farm to raise their insurance policy prices, which they have to, 30%, what is that 7% gonna come in for?
Starting point is 01:59:56 I have analysts in my office looking at this and we're hoping to cut that in half. How are you gonna do it? Because you have to get carriers that are willing to write the insurance. You're talking politics. But you're talking politics. So this is the part that he has a very, very big problem at his hand, and I don't know quite frankly what he's going to do with it.
Starting point is 02:00:15 So Adam, unless if you have an answer, I'm going to the next one. So you say all the time that bad policies have consequences. These are the consequences of basically all the policies that have led to this. If you want an answer, how did you end up in Texas? You got recruited for the most part. You tell the story about Governor, I think it was Rick Perry at the time, that took you to I think a baseball game. And the mayor of Frisco at the time, an expansion minded mayor named Masso.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Thank you. They recruited. So if I'm Gavin Newsom, I need to go back, hat in hand, to the rest of these carriers and start recruiting. You've been in the insurance business for 20 plus years. You understand what it means to have relationships with a multitude of carriers. Adam, I heard that already. But what I'm saying is... You need to recruit. You need to recruit them. They're not coming. Well, they're not coming. Then you need to bring them back. You need to figure out.
Starting point is 02:01:05 But you know what I'm saying to you, Adam. On one end, if you don't allow the insurance company to raise their rates 30%, they're leaving. On the other end, if you allow them to increase the rates of going up 30% for them to be profitable, if you do that, homeowners are not buying houses. This is a double-edged sword for the state of California that is not gonna be addressed that quickly this is not gonna be addressed that this is a travesty this is catastrophic this
Starting point is 02:01:34 is this is not something small this is 20 years in the making this is not something this is what I'm going to and guys I don't mean to push you guys around and tell what I'm trying to get to is there is no answer to this right now. What would you do? He doesn't have it. So you tricked me. Of course. No matter what I said, you're like, no.
Starting point is 02:01:52 The point is there is nothing, unless if you guys come up with a creative idea, there is nothing he can do here. One idea or another. Run for president and get the hell out of California, Newsom. But do you know what the real answer is here? Do you know what the real answer is here? Do you know what the real answer is here? If you have to choose between the two pills, which one do you take? Allow the insurance companies to raise the rates, or now that 7% becomes 20% of people
Starting point is 02:02:14 are not buying their homes because they can't afford homeowners insurance. Which of those two pills do you take? You've got to raise the rates. You've got to raise the rates. You've got to raise the rates. Because guess what? You know why you've got to raise the rates? Because I'm not buying a house if I don't have insurance because I don't think you're taking care of the fire stuff anytime soon. I don't know if you're taking care of the earthquakes anytime soon.
Starting point is 02:02:33 Why would I buy a home without a homeowner's insurance? I'm not gonna be doing that. There's a name for it they call, right? What do they call it? The people that free ball? Fair plan? No, no, no. There's a name for people that go without any insurance. Oh, they're just free balling it. Yeah, they're free balling it. There was a name for it. They don't even do fair or anything.
Starting point is 02:02:49 There's a term they use in California. No, no, there's a term they use in California for those who go without having homeowner's insurance. There's a term they use. I don't know what the term is called. Under show more, there's a term for it. Where's the last one? There's a term they use.
Starting point is 02:03:03 They're just rolling the dice, man. They are just rolling the dice. There's a term they use. So that's California. Why the hell would you buy a house at this point? Let me go to the next story here about what President Trump did. Rob, what page is the one with the Golden Dome? What page is the one with the Golden Dome? I don't know if we have it here or not. Golden Dome is page 4.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Alright, let's go through Golden Dome. Obviously, dude, Adam, Vinnie and Tom had strong opinions about this. Trump unveils ambitious and expensive plans for Golden Dome-Vinnie missile defense. So this is what Israel had, but I love the way he did this deal. I absolutely love the way he did this deal. Rob, please play the clip. I am pleased to announce that we have officially selected an architecture for this state-of-the-art system that will deploy next generation technologies across the land, sea and space, including space-based sensors and interceptors. And Canada has called us and they want to be a
Starting point is 02:04:01 part of it. So we'll be talking to them. They want to have protection also. So as usual, we help Canada do the best we can. This design for the Golden Dome will integrate with our existing defense capabilities. It should be fully operational before the end of my term. So we'll have it done in about three years. Once fully constructed, the Golden Dome will be capable of intercepting missiles, even if they are launched from other sides of the world
Starting point is 02:04:31 and even if they are launched from space. And we will have the best system ever built. As you know, we helped Israel with theirs and it was very successful. And now we have technology that's even far advanced from that. But including hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, and advanced cruise missiles, all of them will be knocked out of the air.
Starting point is 02:04:55 We will truly be completing the job that President Reagan started 40 years ago, forever ending the missile threat to the American homeland. And the success rate is very close to 100 percent, which is incredible. When you think of it, you're shooting bullets out of the air. I'm also pleased to report that the one big, beautiful bill will include $25 billion for the Golden Dome to help construction get underway. That's the initial sort of a down posit and we have
Starting point is 02:05:28 Probably you're talking about General we're talking about a hundred and seventy five billion dollars total cost of this when it's completed Okay, so Tom thoughts on this. Well, there is a comment First of all, I like it We have to do this and if anybody has seen what the Iron Dome has done to protect the citizens of Israel, who have all these rocket attacks coming at them, and what they've done, and how they've been protecting it, you can see these are the kind of defense systems that work, and thank goodness that they exist. And now we're just talking about taking it to next generation. Next generation. And by the way, I love the quote. Now it's not that I love the quote like I like the quote.
Starting point is 02:06:06 It was very ironic quote from the foreign ministry spokesperson of China, Mao Ning, who goes by Mao, gee, that's appropriate. He said, quote, the US by putting itself first and being obsessed with pursuing absolute security. Yeah, yeah, we're protecting our citizens, right? He continues. This violates the principle and diminishes the security for all and undermines global strategic balance and stability. Wait a minute. It doesn't undermine balance. It
Starting point is 02:06:36 helps ensure balance because you're trying to build stuff like this. You're saying China is saying this. You're under binding the balance balance Yeah, the balance with your thumb on the scale Mao and underlying global stability No, you're under mining stability We're bringing stability back because when the Pershing missiles were threatened to go to Germany the Berlin Wall and came down There's a lot of things that came before Reagan's speech. Reagan's speech was tremendous and it was a challenge. But guess what? It brought stability and balance into Europe. And this brings security to the US. People can talk about, oh, well, it's unproven technology. Well, that's what the money is for, to go do it and but it's pretty comical to have Mao from China saying
Starting point is 02:07:27 Oh the US putting itself first and being obsessed is with the personal security of its citizen is Undermining global balance and stability statement alone says a lot about their motives. Oh my gosh Oh, nothing to see here revealing revealing insecurity and concern of Ways that want to attack Adam you've been to Israel many times. And have you ever been there where there's an attack and seen what happens with the dome? Yeah. Okay, what does it look like?
Starting point is 02:07:55 But actually, I'm not saying this is like I've experienced it all. It happens all the time. Rob, look at what I just sent you. These are just typical, this is my buddy who's in Israel as we speak. This is a Tuesday and he goes, these are the missiles the Iron Dome just intercepted on a Tuesday. So people want to understand what's like, who's Israel fighting? It's the same enemy that America will be fighting if we don't recognize the danger of radical jihadist terrorists all around the world. Imagine you're in San Diego and Mexico
Starting point is 02:08:25 shooting missiles, whether it's Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis. Rob, there's multiple images. I don't know if you have more than that. That's the major city, Tel Aviv. Do you see how many missiles are flying? This is not casual, guys. You're in San Diego, you're in Miami, Cuba. The Cuban Missile Crisis, you're almost at the war over it. So now we're doing this, he wants to do it here. So yeah, so people understand what's the strange relationship that Israel has with America? Well, we sort of help fund the Iron Dome and there's been many questions. Why are we funding a foreign country? Why are we doing this? Well, it's called, let's see how it works over there.
Starting point is 02:09:01 When people are getting bombed on a daily basis, missiles on a daily basis, see what works, see what doesn't work. And now when we bring it here to America, we'll know the pros, the cons, the leaks, the opportunities of what we're going to build here. So Israel is on the front lines of exactly what United States is preparing with this Golden Dome. I think it's amazing what Trump is doing. And they used Israel as a tester startup
Starting point is 02:09:27 Example of what works and what doesn't work. You know what I like about the way he did the deal Here's what I like about the way he did the deal 25 billion to start off gonna end up costing 175 billion. He's making Canada Participate and pay for a portion of it Why because Canada's military expenditure is only 1.2 point point three percent of their GDP were on three and a half percent Mexico's 0.7%. So the way he's doing the deal is great. Canada's going to pay for it as well. Carney has apparently agreed to do this. And then the way he says it, when is it going to get done? Did you see when it was going to get done? Right before the end of his term. Why does it get done
Starting point is 02:09:59 right before the end of his term? Weird. It is kind of weird. By the way, Pat, in your opinion, why are we creating this? Meaning, what countries or organizations are we most worried about would potentially shoot missiles? This is life insurance. You're not doing it because of anything. You're just buying insurance. But go there. What countries do we fear that would potentially do this? Who's the first person that reacted to it? China.
Starting point is 02:10:25 China reacted to it, right? Who else? I don't know if it's that many. I don't know if it's that many. I have four on my list. Okay, who do you have? China, Russia, Iran, and who's your friend? I have, in a very particular order, I have North Korea last of these four.
Starting point is 02:10:41 I have Russia third. I have China second, and first, and it's not even close is Iran. Why is Iran the most dangerous in my opinion? Because they believe in the afterlife. They don't believe in life. They'll take us all to heaven or hell to go see Allah and not even blink twice. China, what's the religion in China? Nothing. They believe in the state, communism. What's the religion in Russia? I don't know. Whatever Putin you to do North Korea. They pray to the dictator there are any wrong Christian, okay? Yeah, well allegedly well Russian worth Iran
Starting point is 02:11:14 They will take everybody to hell in a handbasket and not even think twice. They're playing by completely different set of rules Just trying to have nukes. Yeah, China has nukes. Iran doesn't have nukes. No. Not that we know about. Yeah, China has to be number one. China is our biggest threat, hands down, plain and simple. Those, and mind you, those spy balloons that were flying over, I know Biden reversed a bunch of policies that Trump made. By the way, Trump made Space Force for a reason. Everything is strategic with him. guess what I did some research, you know what China's way of dropping an EMP which mind you, it's only a matter of time till they go off to the grid. That's how they do it Tom, they fly these balloons because
Starting point is 02:11:54 they can't really be detected and they drop them at high altitude and a large area is finished. Adam, I get it, Iran is bad. Nuclear creates that electrical pulse you can read about in physics that neutralizes things that are passing electricity. Iran, yeah, screaming about, yo, China's been at war with us and they have all multiple fronts. The brainwashing of the kids, the flying the balloons, the monitoring, the trying to screw us over with money, COVID, they're...
Starting point is 02:12:20 By the way, say what you will about all these things. And there, there, I believe, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, reasonable Navy but China and Russia have formidable Navy's exactly and you don't want Iran to have nukes and then now have a nuclear sub where you can you can get pretty far with go to story that I think all of you guys have opinions on Israel preparing to strike Iran's nuclear facilities even as Trump tries to negotiate the deal report says okay so Rob if you can if you have a clue I don't know if you have a clip on this.
Starting point is 02:13:06 No you don't. Okay. Israel, US intelligence officials, this is from New York Post, cited by CNN, report Israel is preparing a possible strike on Iran's nuclear facility with a source stating the chance of an Israel strike on an Iranian nuclear facility has gone up significantly in recent months and a prospect of a Trump negotiated US-Iran deal that doesn't remove all of Iran's uranium makes the chances of a strike more likely. Intercepted messages and Israel military movements, including air, munitions, and exercises, indicate
Starting point is 02:13:37 an imminent attack despite President Trump's diplomatic efforts. Israel feels caught between a rock and a hard place due to the stated stalled US-Iran talks with former intelligence officer, John Panikov noting, at the end of the day, the Israeli decision making is going to be predicated on US policy determinations and actions and what agreement President Trump does or does not come to with Iran. Adam. Vinny, you go first. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Let me just, I'm sending Rob something. Okay, well, listen, Trump is trying to work out a deal to keep things from spiraling. He's working on diplomacy. That's the angle, the anti-war angle and trying to avoid another pointless war. And Israel is moving like they don't give a damn. And I get it. Iran is bad. Let's put that to the side. But diplomacy is just a stall tactic and they what what they really want is strikes, okay? Bebe's it's not like he's hiding it He wants us and them to go to war with Iran You guys remember last week when I report about Mike waltz using the Israeli signal chat. What was he doing?
Starting point is 02:14:39 He wasn't messing around He was in contact with Israeli officials that they were discussing national policy, Iran being on the forefront, and he was trying to quietly help persuade to pull us into conflict that we're watching unfold in front of our eyes, okay? But even with them gone, Israel's acting, they're still gonna move without us. The reports are coming out that Bibi and Trump, they're not really cool, they're not really on talking terms, but listen, this Iran strikes, it's going to lead to a freaking war, Israel's our allies, we're gonna get dragged into this shit, I don't want any American troops or any other war, Trump is trying to avoid it at all costs, but Bibi, if Bibi wants it, Bibi's gonna get it, if he wants to do it, good luck, go do your thing, okay, don't be
Starting point is 02:15:23 dragging us into that shit because we know that's what's going to come out and I don't care about any other country except America and I want zero, zero American troops to be in harm's way because of a guy that's been begging for a war. Yes, they're bad and there's other ways to take care of Iran but bombing and starting another war, I'm not a fan of it at all period Adam. Well, listen Trump and BB net now who I think they're on the same page They have aligned interests, but they don't have the exact same interests. So you're going to disagree With an ally of yours. You're not gonna agree on everything because there's two totally different things going on here Trump
Starting point is 02:16:08 At his fiber of his being he's a dealmaker. He wants to make a deal He wants to show yeah that deal that obama did was a bad deal I want to put together a good deal trump wants to win bb netanyahu He's worried about his existence Uh, you've heard the term existential threat. Iran is an existential threat to not only Israel, to the rest of the world, to the rest of the region. Why do you think the Saudi Arabia, why do you think even Qatar, why do you think UAE
Starting point is 02:16:34 is so keen to do a deal here? Because they know that the threat to the Western civilization or to the modernization of the world is the Islamic regime in Iran. So Trump's concern is not as extreme as Bibi Netanyahu's. So would Trump like to see a deal? Hell yeah. Would Netanyahu like to see some function of a deal? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:55 But if a deal isn't done, in my opinion, there's one thing that the Israeli government, whether it's left, right, center, is not going to allow happen and that is the Islamic Republic of Iran to get a nuclear weapon. We all know that they have allegedly taken out some of the scientists, the nuclear scientists, they go missing, they take these people out. They all know that they have taken down some of their defense missile capabilities. So the next logical step is if someone's an existential threat, when someone tells you who they are, believe them, death to America, death to Israel, there's a clock.
Starting point is 02:17:33 I don't know if you can find this. There's a clock in Iran, and it's the Israel death clock. So you're not, this is what I was talking about earlier, you're not dealing with logical actors. They believe in jihad, they believe in Sharia law. They believe in the afterlife. And if that's what you believe, you're willing to take out everybody around you to accomplish that goal. Here's Iran's doomsday clock for Israel for Israel's end. Well, ironically, it ran out of power right there. But they're an existential threat. And yeah, they might of power right there. But they're an existential threat.
Starting point is 02:18:06 And yeah, they might be coming for Israel, but they're also coming for the Western world. And how many do you see these stories, by the way, shifting gears about people just out there saying they're, they're Islamified, Islamifying churches now. Because in my opinion, you'd correct me if I'm wrong, first they come for the Saturday people, the Jews, and then they're coming for the Sunday people, buddy. That's you guys. So you might be thinking, well, look, you know, just let them deal with the Jews. That's no big deal.
Starting point is 02:18:38 You think they're stopping there? My Christian friends, my Catholic friends, they're coming for you next. And the useful idiots die last. And then they're going to recruit dumb Americans. Go ahead, who's this guy? We are buying these churches. We bought three churches so far, converted them to massages, and now we have one we are buying with a school to make it, because we have to serve the same people.
Starting point is 02:19:06 The people who were part of that community, one day they will be Muslims. So we'll make it into a masjid and an Islamic school for our children and their children, inshallah. A hundred years ago they invaded the Muslim world and they built missionary schools and destroyed Islamic schools and masjids. Today, we bring the favor back, turn their churches into masjids and their schools into Islamic schools, bring the light of Islam to here. We're able to buy ready to go.
Starting point is 02:19:45 Institutions that have been there for a long time, but they emptied out. And now it is time to be filled with Muslims, with reverts, converts. This is an election year. But we're not going to be happy with either candidate. We have to be happy when Islam becomes the best candidate for us. I ask Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala to give Islam the victory in this country.
Starting point is 02:20:15 Tom, your thoughts on what's going on with Israel, Iran, Israel attacking Iran, are you uncomfortable with it? Where are you at with that? No, look, the fact that it's in a headline doesn't mean that it's not happening if there's no headline. The US and Israel strategically work to neutralize assets all the time. And it just happened that Soleimani
Starting point is 02:20:41 and a motorcade around the back of an airport was a high visibility target and that missile made a loud sound. But there are underlings and people that are getting neutralized all the time. And so I do not believe for a minute that the US and the UK, by the way, even though the UK is teetering because of its government, they are still supporting the neutralization of the nuclear capability. And if the rumor is that Israel's gonna do it, Israel may do it, but the dog don't go off the leash
Starting point is 02:21:23 unless we unclip it. And the US is right there with it You know So Israel is not going to be acting alone on there because to take out centrifuges and capabilities That's in everybody's interest and we're right there with them. And so do I think that there's where there's Smoke there's fire that there's something cooking here If our intelligence tells us that they are really close on the systems and everything, where they can do that with the uranium, now you've got core. It's not terribly hard to build the bomb around that, and then you just deploy the bomb, which is why Japan's been getting so nervous
Starting point is 02:22:02 for the past 15 years with North Korea keeps building slightly better and slightly better and slightly better, you know, missiles that they casually launch into the water. And they have the South Korea is even more concerned than South Korea is like that thing just flew by us and everybody's concerned about it. So and that and that's why what did Trump do? Trump went over there and talked to the kid, right? in
Starting point is 02:22:27 North Korea Kim Jong-un. Yeah, yeah Yeah, because his dad was a grandson more bonkers. So what do I think? I think that you have to neutralize what's going on there in terms of nuclear capability. What if what if Israel doesn't listen? What if Israel says we're gonna do it anyways? Without Trump's approval, and after a week after they were trying to go behind his back to push him to go and fight with the Iranians. What if they don't listen?
Starting point is 02:22:56 Well, why would they have to listen? Meaning that's- What do you mean? I wanna hear this, I'll tell you. Hang on a second, I actually agree. But go ahead, what if Israel's like dude We're gonna attack There's half of our government will be very happy about that more than Hawks and the other half of our government will be
Starting point is 02:23:15 You know gritting its teeth and hoping that it's a surgical Destruction of it and everybody else stands down Adam thoughts? Listen. What is this by the way you put up here? This is a senior Hamas official basically saying that this is why they advocate for the war because they play down the significance of the casualties in Gaza. He says, you know, there's been, our women's wombs will produce many more babies, 50,000
Starting point is 02:23:42 or 50,000 people were born in Gaza during the war just like the number of casualties thanks to the war Westerners convert to Islam US students support Palestine liberation from the river to the sea useful idiots so back to the initial question about the Iran why would they listen I don't think we fully understand in America there's a big difference between the Midwest and the Middle East. In the Middle East, unfortunately, the reality of life there, in many cases, it's killer be killed. It's eater be eaten. It's a totally different world of what's going on in the Middle East. It's so funny. I never saw any protests on any college campuses when hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people,
Starting point is 02:24:27 were dead in Syria, in Yemen, in Sudan to this day. Nothing. Zero. Zero protests. Zero. But when Israel gets attacked and they try to basically eliminate Hamas, it's a genocide. We all know what's happening. It's been fooled. And the smartest people at the nicest college campuses around on the world have been fooled. So as far as your exact question about why would Israel listen, I think they will listen, listen, listen, listen, up to the point where they're like, we can't listen anymore because they're a week away from a bomb and it's us or them. By the way, here's a little fun question.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Do you think Israel has a nuke right now today? Of course. Do you think they have one? Of course I do. Okay. Of course I do. So almost. Okay. So if of course they have it, if they're so interested in doing genocide, why don't they do it? Cause if why don't they do it nuclear weapon at home at anybody, if it who's just going to everybody has nukes. Not everybody has the majority, the major like us or China. If Israel nuked Iran, or nuked Gaza, Iran doesn't have a weapon. The Gazans have missiles. They could do this, but they have no interest in this. Well, they know that the whole conversation about be good. Israel, but, but nobody wants that. But when you say everyone has
Starting point is 02:25:49 nukes, no, nobody in the Middle East has nukes, only Pakistan. And they're more concerned about India. Believe that. So when you say, well, everybody has it, no, they don't. The majority of Israel was interested in using it. If they had nukes, they would do it. What's the whole conversation about you know if Israel puts their guns down if the militants put their guns down they'll be peace if Israel puts their weapons down there'll be a slaughter. Do you know the conversation that Joe Rogan had with Tim Kennedy? Yeah. Do you know that? Have you ever seen this clip? Can we play this? I fully believe in this You think I'm Israel you're the Palestinians in Gaza if Every one every one of the people in Gaza laid down the arms And stopped attacking
Starting point is 02:26:40 What would I Israel do to you? Nothing What would I Israel do to you? Nothing They tried it five different times It literally like stop it. It Israel has never not one time in history Initiated any conflict every single one of those things that you're pointing to is a retaliatory attack by a terrorist organization What do you think? Yeah, I agree with that.
Starting point is 02:27:07 If the terrorist... Adam, where are you going? Where are you going right now? You're saying what? You're saying if Israel has nuclear warheads, I think both Israel and Iran have them. I don't think Iran has them yet. I think they have them. You want to know why I don't think they have them?
Starting point is 02:27:23 Tell me. Because they would use them straight up. Well, then it'd be the end of everybody in Iran. No, I I think they have. You want to know why I don't think they have them? Because they would use them straight up. Then it would be the end of everybody. No, I don't think so. Does North Korea have nuclear weapons? They do. Okay, so how come they haven't used them? Because what country is constantly shouting death to fill in the blanks? Two countries have said death to America. It's North Korea and it's Iran. But how come he hasn't used it yet? Because North Korea... But this is kind of where I'm going with this. You said something. I want to tighten it up and
Starting point is 02:27:46 we got to wrap it up because we got to move on. If you were gonna get to a point I'm gonna just say my point on this thing here on what question I asked. Yeah. I said why would they listen? Why would they listen? Okay because at some point you either have individual autonomy as a country or you don't. This whole conversation of Israel controls America! Really? That seems completely far-fetched to me. I thought that Andrew Schultz made a great point that if some country controls another country, it'd be the country with the greatest GDP and the greatest military and the greatest economy in the world, not a tiny little country in the
Starting point is 02:28:18 Middle East that's controlling the other country. It would seem that Israel is the bag man for the United States, not the other way around. So if Israel, any country that has to listen to another country in order to survive isn't a country at all So I I think that they will listen like I will listen to you as my boss is my CEO is my mentor Do you think Israel runs America? I think Israel has a huge influence on America. I didn't say that question is do you think Israel? a huge influence on America. No, I didn't say that. The question is, do you think Israel controls Trump? No. Okay, so I don't think Israel controls Trump. Do you think Israel controls America today? I don't think it controls America. No, I think it has a major influence. Sure, but so does China. So do a lot of different people. I don't think anybody controls... Who has more influence over America, China or
Starting point is 02:29:02 Israel? Think about the amount of money they're putting in schools, universities. I don't think anybody has more influence over America China or Israel Think about the amount of money they're putting in schools universities who has more influence the amount of land China's buying the amount of people they're buying the amount of who has more influence in US China or Israel. What do you think? If you're gonna talk about I want to see what he's gonna say. I want to see what Vinny's gonna say Hmm, but China has to register as a foreign agent, don't they? They have to. Israel does it. Sure, yeah. But to me, and the reason they did that is because they wanted people to go back to it.
Starting point is 02:29:32 Like imagine right now, we get close to Trump, and President Trump allows Syria to be a nation. And the first thing they're going to do is they're going to reach out to all the famous Assyrians around the world, and they say, Patrick, Vinny, why don't you guys come to Syria buy land buy come buy some home buy do something here. What are we gonna do? What are you gonna do if? the president allows you to have a passport to go and be a What do they call it when they're your dual citizen here in Assyria? Would you take it to have dual citizens to go here in Assyria? So you got a land back? Would you take it? Yeah, okay, of course, but she me mumuru. Yeah, that's it. They're Jewish. They're proud Would you take it? To have dual-sits to go here and Assyria. Assyria got a land back, would you take it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:05 Okay. Of course. But Shmi Moumarou, they're Jewish, they're proud they're gonna take you. But this is the part where I'm going. Let me tell you where I'm at, which my position's a little bit weird. He goes to the Middle East, doesn't go meet with who? Bibi Netanyahu.
Starting point is 02:30:18 Yeah. And he meets with everybody else. So one hour flight, two hour flight, doesn't meet with him. Okay, no problem. And, well, it's not a big deal, it hour flight, doesn't meet with him. Okay, no problem. And well, it's not a big deal. It wasn't their meeting and da da da da da, no problem. If Trump publicly says don't attack and Israel attacks, there's a part of me that is okay with that, not likes that, is okay with that, because we didn't say attack. So now if you go, you're on an island on your own. Don't call me now, that's not a fight I wanted
Starting point is 02:30:52 to be a part of. It's a fight that you chose to be a part of. Make sense? Guys, how many times in school would they come up to you and they said, there's a fight after school, come with us. And I'm like, bro, you hooked up with his sister. I'm not, what are you doing? Like, what are you doing? You started this bullshit, I'm not coming participating in this. He's like no
Starting point is 02:31:08 here's what happened. Okay let's go. What's going to be happening right? And it's a different approach to defend your friends versus not defending your friends. In a case like this, the guy is saying don't start the fight. Then he says it publicly to everybody. Don't start the fight. And then if you want to start the fight guess what start the fight I'm just not there if you win or lose. It's your fight. Don't get me involved But I want to publicly make sure Iran knows we don't want a war right we don't want a war So if BB wants to own this thing here and be his thing go ahead BB, but the world knows This is not the US supporting your attack. This is your attack
Starting point is 02:31:48 your attack. This is your attack, your attack alone that you're making a decision of. Go ahead. Do your thing. Can I flip it on you? Sure. How much longer are you or the proud Persian Iranian people willing to just see the Islamic Ayatollahs run your country? Do you want, like, do you want to go your entire life never being able to go back to Iran? Serious question. Because when they're running that
Starting point is 02:32:12 country and they have that mind frame, you're never going to go back. Your kids are never going to go back. But my point is this, it needs to come to an end at some point. Those are two different conversations. But I think it's one. I think it's two different parts of the same conversation. So of whatever is going on with this regime, at some point needs to stop. Is there a different way of doing it instead of bombing them and which is going to turn into a full on war that say what you want, we don't want it, we're going to have to get involved.
Starting point is 02:32:41 We're going to have to, especially if it escalates to Israel just against Iran. Not under Trump. You don't think so. Not under Trump. I'm not supporting any US troops being on the ground at all. Not under Trump. Under any other president, under Nikki Haley, 100%. Under anybody else. Not under Trump. But the other part to say what he's saying, okay, sometimes there's a guy that everybody wants to take out but you don't want to fight him for many different reasons. But if somebody wants to go fight him and take him out and you think you can do it, go at it. Just don't involve us. If Israel thinks independently they can go do it, go ahead, do your thing. Don't call for help. Because Israel always says, we don. Don't call for help.
Starting point is 02:33:25 Because Israel always says, we don't ever ask for help. We don't, I don't know. Of course, we've given some money to them. Not as much as we've given to Ukraine. Not as much as we've given to other places. But we've given them money, and every time they give the number,
Starting point is 02:33:35 it's accrued and compounded. If it wasn't today's money, it's this. I get it. We've given way more money to Afghanistan. We've given way more money to the war on, what was it, the three trillion dollars we spent the eight trillion dollars we spent on Iraq Afghanistan Iraq Afghanistan funding wars all that bullshit the weapons of mass destruction BS this is not the weapons of mass destruction this is very
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