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REAL AF with Andy Frisella - 884. Full Length: Bad Thoughts Ft. Tom Segura

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

On today's episode, Andy & DJ are joined in the studio by Tom Segura. They discuss Tom's new Netflix series, "Bad Thoughts", the importance of staying in shape as a comedian and entrepreneur, and the ...concept of cancel culture in today's society.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up guys, it's Andy Fercella and this is the show for the realest take about of the lies, the fakeness and delusions of modern society and welcome to motherfucking reality guys As always we have DJ Yeah, there he is Special full-length episode today. We got a special guest. Mr. Tom Sagara. What's happening brother? How are you? They would have me man. Yeah, man. It's great to have you here, too He's in town doing the Fox Theatre How is it? It's great to have you here, too. He's in town doing the Fox Theater. How is it? It's amazing, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:47 It's one of the most beautiful theaters in the country. I've always I've been playing St. Louis like my whole career, you know. I think my first stop here was helium. Galleria. And I've done like a variety of different venues. I've been to the Fox a few times. It's one of the best. It's one of the best theaters in the country. It sucks when you came in though, man.
Starting point is 00:01:06 We had the fucking storm. Yeah, it was a- It almost took you out, man. It was actually a gnarly descent into St. Louis, yeah. We touched down about 10 minutes before the tornado and you could tell something was happening. Yeah. But yeah, we made it through it.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And you know, people were fun last night. Yeah, was it good? Yeah, it was great. Yeah, it was great. Say look I mean dude look We gotta get left off the list of a lot of things. Let's be real. That's real you know, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fucking war zone that we live in downtown, but We always appreciate you coming through and absolutely thing man. So what's been going on? Got a new Netflix? New series out, yeah. It's called Bad Thoughts. It's on Netflix. It was the most fun I've ever had creatively making it,
Starting point is 00:01:52 because it was kind of like, it really was the thing you dream of, where the studio, the network in this case, was just like, pretty much just make what you want. Because I've been through other development processes and pilots where, you know the first time you meet with executives, they're like, yeah make what you want.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And then a couple months in they're like, take all this shit out. And you're like, what? Not like that. Yeah, yeah. And it's a real bummer of a process when it's like that. So this was like the opposite where we got to make, I mean pretty wild stories that we wrote.
Starting point is 00:02:27 It's basically anthology, so it's like these self-contained stories. And we got to make what we wanted, so it was really fun. And nobody stepped in and said, hey, wait a minute, dude, this is like a little too much. I mean, there was a couple of times where they were like, this is pretty,
Starting point is 00:02:43 they were like, this is pretty crazy You know in the writing process Very like very few notes and then in the edit, you know, they were like this is particularly gruesome Can we can we dial this back and we were like maybe? Yeah, but dude isn't that the isn't that the like Isn't that the point like isn't the point to walk the line and yeah? Yeah, I think I mean also I think you know in the stories we were making we were making pretty crazy stories You know one is about
Starting point is 00:03:17 a Guy who goes to a barista and they put in yes for a splash of milk And they basically give him like a cup of milk And so he's like hey, can you remake this and the barista is really rude? And so then the guy kills everybody in the right well. I mean we've all been there, bro It's like wish fulfillment Everybody has encountered a retail person where you're like I'm'm gonna fucking kill this guy. I want to everybody else Yeah, exactly all of you. So that was like the fantasy of the story and then they were like, hey, this is pretty violent I was like, yeah, that's the whole point. It's a violent fantasy
Starting point is 00:03:56 And then they let it go. I mean I rip a guy's jaw out of his face in the thing So probably deserve that I've learned not to fuck with my baristas though, man I know you never fuck with people that fuck with your food food specifically But like, you know the they thems like bro, like they'll get you the they them bro They will get you bro. Like I've learned just leave it even if it is fucked up. I'll just leave it alone man You just leave it alone. The problem is dude is the they thems will get you for not being a they them My they like me. Well, that's cuz you're black. That's true, I'm BIPOC. No, I do get the pass. You definitely get a better treatment than we do.
Starting point is 00:04:29 It's, oh how things have changed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a little different now. Yeah, it's a little different now. Dude, that's sick.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I was thinking before the show though, like, cause that was, first of all, Bad Thoughts is fucking awesome. Oh, thanks man. It is absolutely. If you guys have not seen that yet, you need to go watch though, like, cause that was, first of all, Bad Thoughts is fucking awesome. Oh, thanks man. It is absolutely. If you guys have not seen that yet, you need to go watch it, like right now. Please.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It's definitely in line with our audience for sure. Oh dude. Yeah. We're no stranger to fucking crash the fucking line. I wanna ask on that, like how did, so were these just like, how much, I wanna, okay, that's one question is, how much of that stuff was like real shit that actually happened to you? Or like, are these like, or was it just like how much I want to okay That's one question is how much of that stuff was like real shit that's actually happened to you Or like are these like or was it just like okay, like let's just create the funniest shit
Starting point is 00:05:10 We can possibly think of I mean there's is there some reality in there You know like the coffee thing came is like it's like this cathartic thing to write because you go It came from the the whole thing where I'd seen so many times I'd go Hey, can I get a splash of milk? And I'd see them go like one, two, three, four. I'm like, you don't know what a fucking splash is? Like a splash is a splash, you know? And so, you know, you can talk about that,
Starting point is 00:05:36 you can think about that, but the most fun thing to do is to write a story where you go, this thing happens to me all the time. Here's like a different version of how, it's like, it's a fantasy, right? So it's- So it's a war plan, right? Yeah, but it's also like,
Starting point is 00:05:52 it's like the healthiest way to channel like those feelings and emotions. You go like, well, you can just complain about it or you can like write a story about this fantasy. So that's like one version of a story, right? I mean, there's a bunch of different ones in there. Like there's the me with the twins. I don't know if you, so that's the black and white one.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Where I just had this idea where I was like, hey, what if we do one where a woman sees me in a window and tells me to,, waves me in, and then what I pitched was, the woman is drop dead gorgeous. And then she's like, do you wanna have sex with me? And I go, yeah. And she goes, okay, well first,
Starting point is 00:06:36 you have to fuck somebody as gross as you. And I go, what? And then what we were gonna do was have a woman come in and we were gonna deep fake my face on her so that it would be a sex scene between me and me. You know, like that was the idea. And then one of the other directors, Rami Hashash,
Starting point is 00:06:57 he was like, what if it was a conjoined twin? And I was like, oh, and I liked it more. So we wrote the story. So I play Joseph, oh and I liked it more We wrote the story so I play Joseph who looks like me and then I also play the Twin on the back of her on her back growing up And so then I do kind of have sex with me like that was the whole it so these were just I mean That's no different than you know every other day You know, so they were all like, they came from all these different places.
Starting point is 00:07:29 But yeah, it was all, a lot of it came from that writer's room, just like throwing ideas, which is like the most, the writer's room is like this, where you just sit down, you have a board, everyone's writing shit down and you're pitching and then every few, I don't know, every hour or something, you go like, oh shit. And then when you get excited You're like I'll be back and you run out you just sit and write and write then you bring it back to the room And you guys read it together, and it's like it's a very fun like kind of atmosphere. It's like a hangout It's like a hangout like super funny comedy writers
Starting point is 00:07:58 and like it's the best because you you're getting like eight nine different people's minds on the thing and then you kind of, you know, you end up, there's no, you let your ego go. You don't go like, well, this was my idea. You, it's whoever has the best idea that you kind of go like, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, that's, you know, that's in line with anything. I think great, right? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Great leaders. You know, you're the leader of your team. It's it's, you know, it's about picking the best product not the fucking idea 100% and like I think a production like a show is not unlike Kind of running a company in a way where the best thing you can do is try to surround yourself with the best talent Like you want the you like I want the best production designer, director of photography, like all these people that are
Starting point is 00:08:49 in charge of different departments and you want people to like be great. You're like fucking go kill it. You know like your ideas, yeah. Like let's hear them, let's do them. I think that's the difference between, you know, I mean dude you know a gazillion entrepreneurs and I really think that's the biggest difference between great entrepreneurs
Starting point is 00:09:09 great business people yeah and and shitty ones is like the shitty ones think that they have to have all the ideas and they don't want to surround themselves with better people yeah and the great ones are like fuck dude everybody's smarter than me here that's right like that's what I I want everybody to be smart to me that's I. That's the whole. That's what I, I want everybody to be smarter than me. That's, I mean, if I have like any gift in what I do, it's identifying great people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And being like, hey, come work with me. Yeah. You know, like that's what I try to do well, is I go like, I'm okay, you're great. Yeah. You come work with me. Yeah. Like that's what I wanna do is have great people around me.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Yeah, bro. And you know, it's interesting because like people will come here, and they you know they're like dude You know everything's so cool. You're doing such. I'm like bro. It's them. Yeah, these guys are fucking good You know so I always feel like a little bit guilty because I'm like I get a lot of the credit But my team is fucking amazing. I feel like that with the the show entirely It's like it's my face and my name yeah, and everybody kind of like goes like it's you you you and I'm like that with the show entirely. It's like, it's my face and my name. And everybody kind of like goes like, it's you, you, you. And I'm like, well, it's partially me. But the reason it is what it is,
Starting point is 00:10:10 is like these 50 other people. Do you look at it like, hey man, this is just my role on the team? Yeah, I mean, I feel like, yeah, you know you have a role. I think in, you know, the thing is about like, it's so different. Like standup is so singular, right? It really literally is just you.
Starting point is 00:10:30 You write the stuff, you perform it, you hold a mic, and it's just you on stage. And it's a very kind of, like the only way a tour works is with a team, but standup is very singular. But a show or a movie is the absolute polar opposite. It's like running a business, where you're like, maybe you're the, in this case, like the CEO of it, but then you have to hire an entire team,
Starting point is 00:10:55 and if you are like, no, no, no, everything runs through me, whatever you make is definitely gonna suck. You really have to empower people and go like You run this shit too, and you kind of you run your department you you know you have to let them Encourage them to like take over in what they do That's the only way a TV or or or film like TV show or films gonna be entertaining Well you you you run your own media, right? Like you you have everything Yeah, we we have like a YMH studios. Yeah, so like we produce a lot of podcasts. We produced the show bad thoughts
Starting point is 00:11:34 We're producing a feature film. So yeah, it's you know, it runs through our company, but it's all about like Hiring great people. Yeah, yeah for sure Well, I thought something else was interesting time though It's all about hiring great people. Yeah, for sure. 1000%. That's sick, man. Well, I thought something else was interesting, Tom, that I've been noticing, too. You've had a transformation journey. Oh, a little bit of a glow up? Yeah, let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Yeah, well, okay, sure. Let's talk about it. I mean, well, dude, it's like a group effort, man. You got Jelly Roll down 200 pounds. He's down 200 pounds 200 pounds Yeah, dude, he looks fucking great. I just saw him in concert this past Tuesday at Bush Stadium with Post Malone. He looks amazing Yeah, well we did the 5k two weeks ago. Yeah, and I hadn't seen him in person since the 5k The previous year which was like almost exactly a year to the day and he was down 130 from 130 pounds from last May and
Starting point is 00:12:27 200 overall and then at the 5k he was like Next year at the 5k. I want to be down another hundred. I want to be 240. He'll do it. I totally believe dude I'm glad he's doing that bro Cuz like he's such he's so good at what he does and all I was thinking when he he was like big, big was like, fuck, it's going to be another dude that. That dies. Yeah, I know. I mean, also I'll tell you this, like, so we got to Raymond James where the Bucks play. That's where we had the 5k. And, you know, like last year we did the Rose Bowl.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And so they had us start in the parking lot in Pasadena and they laid out this track, like on side streets, right? And then you kind of run back through this parking lot, and I was like, I was imagining something like that. I don't know the layout of Raymond James Stadium, right? So I just show up, and they're like, hey, there's a lot of uphill, and I go, what do you mean? And they're like, well, it's,
Starting point is 00:13:18 they made it all within the stadium. Well, the only way to hit 3.1 miles in the stadium is you kind of follow this path, and then you take the corridor, like the ramp. Well, the only way to hit 3.1 miles in the stadium is you kind of follow this path and then you take the corridor, like the ramps down, and then you take them up, nine stories all up, right? And then you go across the stadium down again and then up again. So I was like, yo, this is like half a mile
Starting point is 00:13:39 that's just all incline, which like, you know. Well, that's hard enough to do when you've been drinking beer all day. It's hard enough to do, honestly, like, if you which like, you know. Well, that's hard enough to do when you've been drinking beer all day. It's hard enough to do, honestly, like, if you're like, moderately fit, right? And so, like, when I heard he was coming, because I knew he was coming, but they were like, he's coming later this afternoon,
Starting point is 00:13:57 because he had flown in from a show. We were out there, I was like, yo, I don't know if he can do this, man, right? We were like, you know, he's still a big dude Yeah, and then I was thinking like cardio and knees I was like man, it's gonna be 90 by the time he degrees outside by the time he gets here And I go this is like fucking all incline So I was like actually worried and then like when he got there, I was like, alright, well, you know
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't know if we tell him or He crushed it. He did it at 340, all these inclines and he crushed it. That sounds like Camelback Mountain for us. Oh yeah, fuck that. You ever did Camelback in Arizona? No. Don't.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Okay. Don't. Bro, that was miserable. Yeah, dude. That was fucking miserable. We got half, dude, we started, so we had this big event There was like a couple hundred people like a like a group thing sort of like a good run club, right?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah, and they were all meeting down there to do camelback and DJ and I got up early We had been fucking drinking all night and I was like, alright, let's get there early so we can like get like up the mountain So nobody sees us fucking dying, right? Yeah, I knew it was gonna be we were pulling people before Yeah, I think that's where we fucked up at. Because we were polling people and it was like a 50-50, like, hey, how is it? And we either got, it was death or it was the easiest fucking thing they've ever done.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think that's where we fucked up at. Because I'm like, we didn't really know what to expect. I will say there's this thing, I mean, it's not like a new observation, but like when you're doing it, because when I was doing the actual this run,
Starting point is 00:15:26 I feel like if I had been just alone, I'd been like, man, fuck this shit. Like the fact that there's like thousands of people. Yeah, you can't, and they're hard for you. You hit that turn and you see the, I had no idea that it was nine incline ramps up. I was like, mother. And then you just, you just do it.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, peer pressure. It's peer peer pressure really does hell and then I found like I'm on this Path like, you know, it's all mapped out and I see this guy and he's like shirtless and kind of Yoked like like Midway and he's let's say I don't know, 100 yards behind me and then I got it in my head, I was like, I can't let this fucking hot guy pass me. So every time I would like wrap around and I'd see him come and I was like, you cannot let this guy beat you.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And then you just like keep running hard and every time I was like, man, I wanna like slow down, catch my breath, I'd be like, that fucking hot guy's gonna beat you. And then it's just gonna make you upset. So I just, and I told slow down, catch my breath, I'd be like, that fucking hot guy's gonna beat you. And then it's just gonna make you upset. And I told him afterwards, I was like, I didn't want you to fucking pass me, man. He was like, really?
Starting point is 00:16:33 I was like, yeah, dude. He was my motivation. But I feel like if I was alone, you'd just be like, I'm tired, I'll stop. We started like 30, 45 minutes before everybody else. I didn't wanna see everybody see me die, bro. So I got like, I wanted to get like halfway up before we started. This motherfucker shows up with walking sticks,
Starting point is 00:16:51 like he's in all this equipment, like he's going up fucking Mount Everest. Be prepared. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So we get like, we're like, dude, legit, we're like struggling. It's hard. We're like up there and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:02 fuck, we gotta be, we gotta be close. And he tasked me on the shoulder and he points up at the thing and I see this like little line of what looks like fucking ants like go and I'm like so Dude, I'm like dude. We'd never stand there. I'm like, dude Maybe we should just go back down. No one's up here. And right as I said that, dude, the group was coming up. They're like, Andy, are you on your way down? And I'm like, fuck. So we ended up doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:32 How far is that? Dude, it was on like three miles. Three miles, but straight fucking up. Yeah. And it's like, you know, there's not a path, bro. You're like using your hands and shit. Trying to find a way. Yeah, I'm not built for that shit. No, dude. Yeah, there's not a path bro. Like you're like using your hands and shit. Trying to find a way. Yeah, I'm not built for that shit.
Starting point is 00:17:45 No dude. Yeah, I was not big boy friendly. Yeah. But no dude, your transformation has been sick man. Thanks man. I mean, I think it's probably like, and you know, like anything where it's just kind of what you prioritize.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Yeah, for sure. You know, like you think you prioritize things then you realize that just thinking about it is not a priority. Like you have to do things. So I think I just put more of an emphasis on training more and, you know, like, eating is obviously, like, such a big thing,
Starting point is 00:18:13 especially when you travel for a living, because you're just in different cities and, you know, yards. Hotel gyms and, you know. Hotel gyms. I mean, food is, I I think for us the biggest thing. Right. Because like when I started my career as a stand up doing the
Starting point is 00:18:29 road, you know, comedy clubs are notorious for like, you know, it's bad food. It's not good for you. It's like it's mozzarella sticks and chicken wings. And and that's kind of and where they're late. And that was just
Starting point is 00:18:41 like, I don't know, I'm 23. You don't even think about it. You just start eating that shit. And then 10 there late, and that was just like, I don't know, I'm 23, you don't even think about it. You just start eating that shit, and then 10 years go by, and you're like, you've gained 50 pounds, but you're also just like, and this is what it is. You just kind of resign to like, you know, I'm up late, I sleep in, we eat like shit,
Starting point is 00:18:58 I'm on the road, I'm a comedian, who cares? And then all of a sudden you're like approaching 40, and you're like, what am I fucking doing with my life? You know, like you're just kind of a mess. Really, you're on a path that you realize can go a certain way. And I think, especially in comedy, we kind of romanticize it. We're like, we make it cool to be a slob.
Starting point is 00:19:20 We're like, I'm a comic. You laugh about it. Yeah. You're like, who cares? We drink beer and eat like shit and sleep in. But then you're like, yeah, you comic. You laugh about it. Yeah, you're like, who cares? We drink beer and eat like shit and sleep in. But then you're like, yeah, like you don't have to do that, you know, to do standup. Like it's not a prerequisite,
Starting point is 00:19:33 even though you kind of let yourself think it is. Yeah, it's just justification. Yeah, you justify it. And then you're just like, I don't know. Then you just hit a certain point where you're like, this is not a great way to live. Like you can take care of yourself. And then I think the biggest thing then you just hit a certain point where you're like, this is not a great way to live. Like you can take care of yourself. And then I think the biggest thing is you end up,
Starting point is 00:19:50 people always see you physically transform, but you just feel so much better. Like you physically and mentally, you're like, I'm thinking more clearly. I feel better, I'm happy. You're probably able to create better shit. Oh my God, like now I tell people, a lot of my days are really slammed
Starting point is 00:20:06 with like, you know, 100 things, right? And I go, when I come into my office, we have like recordings and interviews and ad things and then like, you know, we're gonna shoot things and we got meetings, it's like a full day. I've learned that if I work out first, like before I go in, I'm just like a so much better version of myself.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Like I come in and like sometimes I even staff are like, damn, like you're in a good mood. And I'm like, yeah, I just came from the gym. Like I feel good. And then I actually feel like I have energy for that day. Whereas opposed the other way of like, where I just show up, I feel like I'm dragging that day. Yeah. And dude, I do the exact same thing about two years ago
Starting point is 00:20:47 I think I would come in here because we always talk about what the fuck's going on in the world and I get super pissed Off yeah, and like I would come in here, bro And like I'd be so fucking pissed off and then I figured out if I train right before Like I was that's you know what I was doing right before this, I trained right before, even though I still get pissed, it's like not nuclear. It's like, it's tolerable. You need it, you need it dude. I think we all, everybody thinks of,
Starting point is 00:21:18 or a lot of people think of that as just like, like working out is just like for your muscles, of like, oh you're trying to get whatever, which is obviously good for you, but I think what it does to you mentally is like, there's like, there's just, the fog of sleep goes away, things just fire faster, and I actually literally feel happier.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Like I actually, I'm in a better mood,. Yeah, I'm not like a naturally happy person Yeah, so I have to like Like I you know actually to be real dude like naturally happy people kind of fucking annoy me Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with this person you have before yeah, dude like but what are you Russian or something? No, I do. I don't know like I don't know I'm Sicilian, but like I don't I don't know what it is, bro Yeah, the chipper people you don't talk. Yeah It's like fuck man. Yeah, what the fuck did I do wrong? I know, you know So but yeah, dude working out does it man like it definitely helps me a lot
Starting point is 00:22:18 So did you guys like all get together and like who is the ringleader of this? I think it was like a slow... Because Burt lost a shit time too, didn't he? He's, yeah, he goes up and down quite a bit. So like he was, he trimmed down and was looking great in his special that he shot. He shot it in November, so it's been like, you know, six, seven months. And in just those six, seven months months I think he's put on like 30 plus pounds yeah
Starting point is 00:22:48 but he also You know he's kind of a he's a weird athlete too like he's somebody where if he was like alright today I'm just gonna clean it up. You know in two weeks. He'd be down 15 pounds Yeah, and like he just bounces back real quick and then he falls off because he just... Bro, I relate to that. He parties like he... Yeah, it's fun. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:23:11 He's on the road. He drinks. He eats like a psycho and then he gains all this weight and then he just like pivots back. Now I think it's, you know, the older you get you're more like, dude, this is crazy. Like just hang out in one weight group. But yeah, he just does that for me I just feel like I I still can gain and lose but I have like a a tighter window yeah where I get if I'm like right now I feel like I'm at my max
Starting point is 00:23:37 I'm like raining it in being like I was too much you know I mean like yeah I don't want it to go you know what it's like to let it go exact so much work I'm not gonna do another 10 to like I'll rein it in now Yeah, it's a meat saws about 40 to figure that out dude. Yeah, it took me the same. Yeah Yeah I was like fuck this is not worth it cuz I would get in shape and then I would go like I would get down to Like 250 which is in shape for me and then I would fucking be 350 And then I would be 250.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And then I did that like three or four times. I'm like, fuck. I think it's, I mean, yeah, there's a certain age where you're like, I can't do this. Like, it's just not good. But I don't know, man, it has to stay on your mind. Like nothing will just like happen. You know, like I feel like a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:24:20 they're like, the curse of it is that you can think about it all day and not do anything Yeah, do you mean like there's people who like wake up and they go I'm really unhappy physically like with my body and all this shit and go to bed with the same thoughts and like not change anything Yeah, right like this forever. Yeah, it's like a version of insanity Yeah, and then they end up telling me about it They end up selling themselves on some fucking bullshit like oh well This is just the way always trying to find out yeah, it's like I
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah, I mean you eventually get tired of telling yourself that shit you get tired of telling it And you just go you also just accept that like okay Ben like I'm gonna have to eat this way Yeah, if I want to eat the other way then you accept what comes with it, right? So yeah, it's a lot of like yeah, man lean protein and you know It's like I want the pasta, but I'm like no yeah, and then the workouts. I feel like are They're not like I don't resist the work like I like the workout But the work of it. I think is you still have to find the time You know like that's a big challenge on the fucking road. Yeah, you got to find the time So a lot of it is just like I mean that's why great like Sean comes with me is that you know sometimes I'm like well
Starting point is 00:25:35 I guess there's not enough time to work out and then he'll be like what the fuck you talking about we can just go Right now yeah, like okay like that kind of shit Yeah, dude, because the truth of matter is yeah even a 30-minute quick workout is still get the job done man It turns of like clearing your mind if you hit it. Yeah, you can make 30 minutes go a long way for sure Definitely, man. Well, one of the other things we talk a lot about like, you know Culture stuff things are happening right now, right? And you know since we have a fucking global figure in comedy, I wanted to try to, I guess, ask you,
Starting point is 00:26:09 what's your take on cancel culture in comedy? And where have you seen the ebbs and flows go in that? I mean, I feel like the big conversation piece of that was like a few years ago when that idea kind of floated. But I also feel like it's kind of, here's the difference between the world today and 30 years ago. Like 30 years ago, if you were a comedian or somebody
Starting point is 00:26:40 and you said some shit that upset people, maybe there'd be a new story about it, but it's mostly that somebody would just tell somebody else. There's no way you knew they were mad, but there's also no way that back then people weren't mad about shit. Do you know what I mean? The difference is today, we have all these devices
Starting point is 00:27:04 where people can Tell you that they're mad about what you said and I feel like I like some like a lot of comedians will be like Oh, you know Like they're they're complaining that someone's upset about what they did and you're like, yeah, that's part of the thing dude, like you're You can't you can't be a comedian who goes I I'm gonna say whatever I wanna say, and it's not cool if somebody gets upset. You're like, that's how it works. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:31 You're the one who's actually being super complaining right now. Like, you have to let people say that they don't like what you said. Like, that's the exchange. I'm gonna say some shit. And like, yeah, every comedian wants you to love everything they said. That's just the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Even the ones who... They all want you to... So some of them are just complaining that, hey, people got mad about this. That's bullshit. You're like, no, that's part of how it goes. Like, you're the complaining little bitch right now. Because you're upset that people are upset. Because my thing is, like, what, where is somebody really being canceled? In stand-up, let's say.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I'm talking in the comedy space. Because some of them will be like, oh, I can't say this. Like, yes, you can. You should. You just can't dictate that everyone will love it. You know? Dude, that whole saying of you can't say this is so fucking annoying. It's a tired trope now.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Bro. Yeah, like you- But, oh dude, they won't let us say- who won't let you say that? Yeah. You won't let you say that. What they're really saying is they're like, I'm mad that some people are mad about what I said. It's like, that's the exchange. Bro, I've never seen someone get canceled that didn't come out bigger.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I've never seen it happen. Yeah, because it's like, it's a made up kind of, you're not really canceled. I mean, are there a few examples? Probably. I can't even really like, where you go, you said some shit and now you can't get work? Because that's really what canceled means.
Starting point is 00:29:00 And I think, look, Yeah, there's a few. The worst people, I think look yeah, I mean yeah, there's a people the worst people I think in Society are people who go like you said something I'm going to try to Contact your employers. Yeah, so that you lose your job. That's a weak piece of shit person fucking bitch shit That's that is the worst and I have have zero respect for the person that goes, I don't like something somebody said,
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'm gonna try to make this person lose their livelihood. That's insane. But I'm like, in comedy, like who's stopping you from selling tickets, bro? Say whatever you wanna say. Also, if you stop selling tickets, that's on you. That's not somebody attacking you. That means that-
Starting point is 00:29:50 No, you just fucking suck. The market is dictating why you're not selling it. So I just don't really buy that comics are being canceled. I really think that if you say wild shit and it's really funny, guess what? People will be like, that shit was really funny. So it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Let's be real, dude. The best comedians in history, the best standups in history, when you go back in the fucking 80s, Eddie Murphy before he was a dad on TV, the guy was fucking raw. Oh yeah, for sure. And delirious.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Bro, these kids these days with their little fucking vaginas like go fucking watch that shit, bro Like and you know what? You know what like then you look at Chappelle like when he was doing a Chappelle show and like yeah These things made culture stronger because it taught us that we could all laugh at each other and make fun of each other Well, the Chappelle example too, which was like great was that like he put out a special and then everyone You know which was great was that he put out a special and then everyone, there was people walking out on Netflix and it was all in the news and people were calling him transphobic
Starting point is 00:30:52 and they were like, oh, he's being canceled. And you're like, what are you talking about? I mean, you go to the show, I went to a show with him the following week. I was at- Oh, after this should have happened? Yeah, I was opening on that show and was fucking 18,000 people at the show. Yeah. And you're like, Yeah, I don't think this cancellation is working. to defend him, but it was like one of those things where I'm like, no, no, like you're saying
Starting point is 00:31:25 he's being canceled, what really happening is that some people are really pissed about something he said, and that's fine. Like that's how the world works. Like not everyone's gonna be like yay for everything you say, but he's definitely not canceled. Like he just, you know, there's a, he's doing standup in an NBA arena right now, and it's completely not canceled. Like, he just had, you know, there's a, he's doing standup in an NBA arena right now.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And it's completely sold out. Like, I think it's working out. Yeah, for me it makes it worse too, bro. Cause like, they're like, Dave Chappelle, comedian, says, you know, trans people aren't, whatever. It's like, he's a fucking comedian. Well, the reason it's funny is cause fucking true, bro. Like, that's the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Like, it's true. That's what, that's why comedy's funny. It's fucking true. You're able to say truth, say everybody's thinking about, everybody knows and just laugh about it. That's why it's so important to culture, man. Like everybody's, you know, all this tension and shit, this comes from people being too serious about shit
Starting point is 00:32:18 and taking things too fucking, you know, much to heart. A lot of times the people that are the most upset about these like standup things, the funny thing is not only have they not been to see that standup live, sometimes they don't even watch the special and they write the article. So it's like, they're not even actually,
Starting point is 00:32:39 they haven't seen the actual performance. What they'll do is they'll read an excerpt, like literally, like read it. So they just are reading the written word, and then they write an article about that, which is like, it's just this click-baity bullshit, man. It's not real. It's the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's not real. It's like this manufactured thing where like, then people read that person's article, who also haven't seen the thing. And the funny thing is, all those people that are like the most upset, dude, they wouldn't go to that show anyway. They would never buy it to you.
Starting point is 00:33:14 They're just commenting on some shit because it makes them feel like they're doing something to express how wrong these other people are. And it's like, dude, they're not even going, like it's all just, my point is it's just all noise. Like it's just this sideshow thing that's not, you can be distracted by it, or the better thing you do is you just ignore it
Starting point is 00:33:34 and you just realize that like it is somebody trying to get attention for themselves. It has nothing to do with what you say. That's right, they don't have anything creatively to create on their own. So it's like all their fucking reaction videos on the internet, which some of them I like. But like, dude, some of these motherfuckers,
Starting point is 00:33:48 their whole fucking thing is, all I do is react to other people's shit. Like, bro, that's not creation of anything. I know. And that's like a cheap way to get attention, in my opinion. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that is a whole lane. But it goes, like, those people, you see the reaction video so you know what it is half of the people that write articles
Starting point is 00:34:07 They're doing Reaction articles. Yeah, and they don't even watch the thing to react Yeah, they just pick a word and they go I'm gonna write an article about this. They're like, okay, it's crazy man So you're so you're on tour right now I was looking at the like it's a long tour you're going on for this two years it's a two-year tour I you know my last tour was actually even busier but this one is like yeah I mean you basically hit every major North American market then you select other global markets to do and you take your time
Starting point is 00:34:44 like I like to take my time, like there's no point of like rushing a tour. So it's like, yeah, I'll just take a couple years, you know. Next week is my last week of spring tour and then I take most of the summer off. So it's like, you know, get some rest, hang out with the family, pick up in the fall. I'll shoot it in the next special in the fall,
Starting point is 00:35:06 and then next year, 26, I just have some things to film, but I won't actually tour. So it'll be a much different schedule for me. What's the best and worst cities you've had to do stand-up in? Well, the funny thing about- You ain't gotta say St. Louis, it's fine. No, no, no, the funny thing about you ain't gotta say st. Louis. It's fine. No, no, no the funny thing about picking back best or worst is that
Starting point is 00:35:27 You learn over the course of time that sometimes you have a bad show in a city And then you go this city sucks for stand-up, and it really was just that night You know I mean yeah, or like conversely you'll go this city is great And so then your mind you go it'll be great, and then you show up and the show is like okay And so then in your mind, you go, it'll be great. And then you show up and the show's like, okay. And you're like, what happened? It's like, those things, those can change year after year. You can go to a place where it was great
Starting point is 00:35:52 and it's bad and bad and now it's great. I think what you fall in love with are cities almost like separate from the show. You know what I mean? Like, it's always fun for me to like, I love going to Denver because I like the city of Denver. I like the atmosphere, I like the restaurants like I have a good time and then the shows have tip usually been really fun for me It's always fun to fit. I like big cities. So I like going to New York
Starting point is 00:36:15 I like doing London. I like to you know I mean like but I have a lot of great places that I mean I love the beauty of like like British Columbia, you know, like in the in the northwest like the Vancouver area I just like being in that atmosphere and You know, Chicago has always been like a super fun city for me to go to and like crowds have been fun So I have fun in a lot of cities men. Yeah So you like living life as you go to yeah. Yeah, you're trying to like, you know
Starting point is 00:36:44 I know a lot of times you don't have time to do that much shit Is there anything? So you're like living life as you go too. Yeah, yeah, you're trying to like, you know, a lot of times you don't have time to do that much shit. A lot of times we're doing like Thursday, one city, Friday night, so you don't really like get to enjoy the city that much. But, you know, sometimes you do have a little more. Like New York, for instance, I just love the fact that you can walk the streets and you feel like
Starting point is 00:37:03 you're in this vibrant city. It doesn't matter what time. It doesn't matter. I love that too. It charges you. It charges you up and I'm usually there for like couple days so it's just so different than where I live in Austin and I mean, been going to New York like
Starting point is 00:37:17 most of my life and it's just, you know, it's just still like the greatest city to visit and have fun in. Totally agree dude. It's my favorite place to go to for the exact same reason. Like dude, you could walk out on the street fucking 2.30 in the morning, bro, and it's like it's noon. And also like you realize that it is funny
Starting point is 00:37:35 that you can literally bring up anything and they're like, oh yeah, we have a store. You want Elephant's Feet? Yeah, we have that. Like anything that you bring up, like New York, any cuisine, any type of store, whatever you're looking for, like you can be like, I want pencils, or I want fucking pens made from metal
Starting point is 00:37:54 that are crafted from the 18th century. They're like, yeah, there's a store over here. You have that, like anything you want, that city has, which is like, it just feels like you're, I don't know, in this manufactured city almost. Like it almost doesn't feel real for me still. What's your favorite place to do to work outside of outside the US besides London? Well, I mean, I, when I started like touring as a standup, I would do Canada, that was like the first place to to leave the country, even though it's not that big of a departure.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And it was always fun to do those shows up there. Australia has great, they're very fun people. Australians are fun, so I think it translates to their crowds. I've had a lot of really fun shows in Australia. The people and the cities are great. But I've done stand-up in South America, in Argentina, in Chile, I've done Mexico City.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I've done a lot of European cities, and I've done Asia too. I've done Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore. So all those, like the Asia tour was fucking just so cool because those cities are so different than what we're used to and the food is unbelievable. I've never had better food in my life than in Tokyo. I knew that it would be good.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I didn't know that like... Did you know what it was though? Well, yeah. Yeah. I didn't know how amazing, you order a salad in Tokyo and every bite you're like, this is the best salad I've ever had, that's crazy. And then they're like, you order a fruit plate
Starting point is 00:39:36 and you take a bite of a strawberry and you're like, what the? And then you realize how poisoned our food is in this country, which is one of the most backwards things. You're like, why is our food so bad? We're just spraying everything with pesticides. And then in Tokyo, I mean, I'm not kidding, dude. You order an omelet, or in the hotel,
Starting point is 00:39:58 you're tired, you're like, we're not gonna go out to a nice, crazy, we're just gonna go here in the hotel, in the lobby, and you order a sirloin steak and you take you're like this is the best fucking steak I've ever had in my entire life like every meal was like that damn everything we had we were like this is amongst the best food I've ever had and it was every day no matter what we had and then you order a cup of coffee and you're like Jesus Christ this is the best coffee I've ever had in my life that's what it was like to eat in Tokyo. Shit. Yeah, it was incredible.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Man, we gotta go to Tokyo, man. I like food. I've never been to Asia at all. Oh, dude. Let me tell you, man. Like, there's a lot, first of all, I should say there's a lot I haven't seen. But in those places that I've been,
Starting point is 00:40:36 I mean, Hong Kong is a spectacle. It is like New York, roided up. Like, it literally, like you think you're seeing the downtown skyline and then you go like around this bend and you see something like 20 more times more buildings and you're like what has happened like it's this massive thriving alive city. Not that Tokyo isn't but the thing that stands out from Tokyo is like the Japanese people, the culture, you know, everybody in Japan, like the cashier
Starting point is 00:41:06 at the 7-Eleven takes great pride in being in their job. And you, like you sense it, you know what I mean? There is no like, I don't know man, fucking throw, like there is none of that. People have like, so this whole Japanese culture and way of being, like it really is impressive. You know, the pride people take in excellence.
Starting point is 00:41:29 It's all about, the reason like some of those foods are so great is they're like, yeah, that guy, he makes coffee and he's done that for 45 years. He takes pride in it. And he takes so much pride in it. It's like this meticulous, like perfect thing. And you see that kind of in all parts of life. They are like gracious, like for a city with so many people.
Starting point is 00:41:49 A lot of people. I mean, you know, on the morning commute, like there's this famous thing you can find online of like the rush of the subway and you don't, like it's all organized. There's no like people like fucking off and like being like, they're like, oh yeah, no one's being an asshole because they know it's rude to be an asshole in the you know I mean like yeah and commute like things like that where you're like, wow
Starting point is 00:42:13 And then Singapore is the cleanest like, you know Like may almost make that is because they beat people's ass. Yeah Yeah, they fucking cane your ass bare ass right in front of the whole thing when you land in Singapore Where there's signs and you're going up you're walking up to do You know customs and it's just like drugs Punishable by death. Oh Jesus Christ It's like it's like all over and then they hand you the form and it's like we will kill you for drugs And then you're like filling it out and
Starting point is 00:42:45 You're like do I have any drugs? You start to panic you're like I gotta go through my backpack What if I have like a edible I mean they're like oh they will hang you Shit, but then you get into that city and it's like I mean it's like it's the cleanest place you've ever been People again super polite. It's just it's a it's a really cool experience I mean, I can't encourage you enough to do an Asia trip. Yeah, I'd be sick, dude I got invited to uh by one of the guys on Instagram. He runs like all the elephant reserves He invited us to go over there and let's go see the elephants
Starting point is 00:43:27 Let's go elephants are fucking sweet big. Yeah, well, they're smart to bro. Yeah, super smart. Yeah I hope I don't get like confused for one. You could you probably be able to ride one man. I Know you can't ride a horse Okay, I can ride a fucking horse. No, you can't Oh fucking kill the horse Okay, I can ride a fucking horse. No you can't oh fucking kill the horse Time you got you got two two boys right I have two boys. Yeah, they're not like little kids though right six and nine Oh, it's just young. Yeah, that's young. That's right. How's that changed like your outlook on comedy at all? The shit you talk about maybe I mean for sure you talked about it because excuse me I I always felt like you should just talk about whatever's going on actually happen. Yeah, so like
Starting point is 00:44:11 you know when you know your first Hour set is you like you're in your 20s. It's just like observations and it's like TV shows It's going out, you know drinking part. And then it's like you get engaged, you're like, well, I'm gonna talk about that. You're married, those things that are, whatever you're experiencing, it's like, my dad died. Talk about that.
Starting point is 00:44:36 You just talk about whatever's happening. So kids, sure, it's like, I don't wanna do an hour on having kids, but I always have something because they're part of life. They're part of my life. And they're two little wild dudes, man. They're just ruining everything we have, basically. They're such little shits.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And they're both in jujitsu. And it's just like, it's so funny, because the older one, he's like, I think I'm stronger than you. And I'm like, you're definitely not stronger than me, dude. And he's like, you wanna try? I'm like, it's so funny, because the older one, he's like, I think I'm stronger than you. And I'm like, you're definitely not stronger than me, dude. And he's like, you wanna try? I'm like, yeah, sure. I mean, you're nine, I will fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And then he'll try to like, you know, mount me, and I'm like, just pick him up and put him down. He's like, oh wow, you're definitely still stronger. I'm like, yeah. I know this doesn't have like a no expiration date, but I'm gonna remind you of this for a while Yeah, yeah, you gotta make it so bad. So we don't even try it again. What's that? You gotta make it so bad He doesn't try it again. I know he's like he's coming. It sounds like he's gonna keep trying. It's coming
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, every day I get home he takes his shirt off. He's like and he goes I'm gonna be so fucking jacked And the thing is he has like these like he's like lean You know, I mean like he's like lean you know I mean like he's already like kind of muscular and I'm like I I don't want to tell him, but I'm like yeah You probably are Yeah, it's coming. Yeah, man You're also an author. Yeah, you wrote a book. We got a I like to play alone, please. Yeah, let's head about well it's a collection of like stories and essays and
Starting point is 00:46:04 my first, my oldest, he was doing a lot of two word things when he was a little kid, and mixing around certain words. I was waiting for him to say his first full sentence. And then he'd know what I mean? Like he'd be like, I do, I know. And I'm like, oh, he's not like, we were waiting for like that first full sentence when he's like, I don't remember, man,
Starting point is 00:46:35 like 18 months or two or something like that. And then one day I got home and I sat down next to him like in the playroom and he just looked up at me. He goes, I'd like to play alone please and I was like okay I was like that was really exciting that you said a full sentence it's also he was like get the fuck out of here so but the the book is just like a whole collection of us stories you know some of them from my days on a comic, some of them from before then, but like all types of different stories, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Geez, man. What'd you do before that? Before- Before comedy. Before comedy, well, when I graduated college, my actual first, first thing I did is I went to Boston and my friend was doing real estate, and he was like, he's like,
Starting point is 00:47:23 this is a crazy easy way to make a lot of money, which for like a fresh college grad, I couldn't believe it. The whole system was that if you, Boston has 61 colleges and universities in the Boston metropolitan area, which is a crazy amount. And all those people need housing. And so the way it works is like, you just, if you work in a real estate office,
Starting point is 00:47:47 people just come in and they're like, I need an apartment. And then you show them an apartment. I don't know shit about Boston, I don't know. And they're just like, here's this one. And then if they sign up for it, they have to pay first, last, and another month equivalent to the real estate office.
Starting point is 00:48:04 And then as an agent, you get half of that. So it's like, you know. Oh damn, it's free money. Bro, it was just like this thing. I did it for a few months, but it was one of those things where I was like, even though it was like, to me it was a ton of, I mean, I'm 21 and like, they're just like,
Starting point is 00:48:19 here's $4,000, here's eight, I was like, holy shit. I was also like, oh, I know I don't wanna do this. Yeah. It was like a real life eight. I was like, holy shit. I was also like, oh, I know I don't want to do this Yeah, it was like a real life lesson because I was like If it was just about the money, I should stay here and just keep doing this because it's like a crazy amount of money But I didn't want to do it. So then I went to DC and I actually worked for America's most wanted That was like really yeah the show the show. Yeah, so I was like out fucking hunting people or what? I mean I was I would I was a researcher you like out fucking hunting people or what? I mean, I was a researcher, so like, but they would, I had interned there in college,
Starting point is 00:48:50 and then they offered me a gig. And the job was like, I had to read all these like stories about like fugitives and different crimes. And then I would go in like the bullpen and pitch to like our story editor. Hey, we should do We should profile this guy and you give them like the whole story in the background and then they would discuss and then they would Go like, okay, we're gonna do that story. So then you would be kind of like an associate producer on This particular person and I did that for our my first day was September 10th, 2001.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Fuck. So, yeah, it was a Monday. And then, yeah, we kind of started doing some different shit after that. Uh, and but after three months of like, yeah, I hope we get him too.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Uh, I was like, I was yeah, I hope we get him too So I moved to LA and my whole my whole Desire in moving to LA had nothing to do with stand-up. I really thought that Comedy acting was like what I would do like,, you know, I had like, you know, Will Ferrell and all these guys, I was like, I wanna do that. So I kinda went out there with like that objective
Starting point is 00:50:10 and I was going to the Groundlings, which is like a comedy improv school and troupe. Like they train you and then they put on shows. And when I was in that school, you know, just taking the classes, I met other stand-ups who were like, they were the ones who were like, you should try stand-up. They were like, I think you would like stand-up.
Starting point is 00:50:29 And I was like, I don't even know what to do. And these guys kind of took me around to watch them. Like, hey, watch them do, I don't know how you even prepare for it. And that got me started doing stand-up. But I always still wanted to do the comedy acting thing, which is like why the show, Bad Thoughts, is like so fulfilling to me,
Starting point is 00:50:50 because I also remember that that was like my first dream. Like my dream was to do stories, you know what I mean? And so I still love stand-up. Like stand-up has been amazing for me, and it is so fun, but I always wanted to do that shit. So in my head, like making this show feels like, oh, this thing I wanted to do for 20 years. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like it's very fulfilling. That's real, man. Dude, so I'm a lot younger, obviously. Obviously. Obviously, yeah. Well, I mean, I know it's hard to tell you, black don't crack. Plus you paint your beard, I get it, keep going.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I could be like 40, you know what I'm saying? tell, you know, black don't crack. You know what I'm saying? So it's like. Plus you paint your beard, I get it, keep going. I could be like 40, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. But dude, like I remember the first time I heard about you. Yeah. There was a video at a basketball court. That's the first time? That was the first time. Damn.
Starting point is 00:51:38 That was like memorable for me. Yeah, well it's pretty memorable, yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Can we talk about it? Yeah, sure. All right, so I got the clip. This is the og clip Let's watch this clip You've never seen this any Wait, you're not not the best part, it hasn't happened yet. Oh man. Oh fuck.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Oh fuck. Pretty bad. What kind of injury was that? Two at the same time, it was double whammy. Is that shoulder and arm? No, what happens, like a lot of people don't know, so we had been playing basketball for a while. I mean how the fuck did you even do that, man?
Starting point is 00:52:23 It's pretty crazy actually. Yeah. And so. Did so do that on purpose absolutely not So what happened was this is the part that like because people only see this clip yeah, so right before this Bert and I are having a dunk contest okay, and so We start it was a rim that you can lower, and so we were like, who can dunk higher? So, I'm 247 right there, by the way. Yeah, you were a thicc-y.
Starting point is 00:52:50 So we do it seven and a half, eight, eight and a half, nine, I dunk on nine, he doesn't, it's over, like I already won the comp, like everyone's like yay. And as we're like walking away, to do our net, we're gonna do something completely different. One of them was like, hey man,
Starting point is 00:53:13 I think you can go a little higher. And I was like, huh? And they're like, I think you got a little more room in you. And I go, I remember internally being like, I don't know man, that was like, that felt like the kind of the limit, you know? I was like, okay. So they crank it up to nine three. So that like the hoop is set at nine three.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I'm back here, like there's a guy off camera. He's like, hey man, dig deep. And I go, I go, all right, yeah. And I remember internally all right, yeah. And I remember internally just being like, man, I don't know if I have these extra three inches, right? And so when I'm running there, when I push off, what you don't, well, the reason that's like my left patellar tendon snaps.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Okay, so the patellar tendon snaps. Oh, fuck. Okay, so the patellar tendon snaps, and then instinctively, like it's not a thought thing, your body, I guess, tries to protect your head, this arm goes here, I land on it, shatter the arm. So it was left patellar tendon and left humerus. I mean, that's the scar. I don't know if you can see it from there. And then I had major nerve damage.
Starting point is 00:54:29 So I had another surgery to take a nerve from here and put it in here. So, but that happened. You know, you see the video and you're just like, what is this? But like, it was that we were doing all this shit. The real reason that this likely happened is that I was like out of shape and like, yeah, I used to play basketball
Starting point is 00:54:47 fucking 20 years before then. And then we just show up one day and you're like, oh, let's like put the demands of like jumping as hard as you fucking can on this out of shape body. And then your body just goes, nah. Bro, not today. That's how it feels though. Cause like you remember that you could do shit exactly and you think you could still do shit
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, and then you figure out very quickly it well There's a cannot the term that I was told cuz you know, I went to the hospital I had surgery then I went to recovery center all this PT like all this shit the term that I had never heard They were like, oh you're a at the top when you're doing this. You're a Deconditioned athlete meaning like you oh you're a at the top when you're doing this you're a deconditioned athlete meaning like you are you're so You're putting the demands of what you did on yourself and you're like, oh, I'm 18 This is what I used to do But there your body is like no, we're not at all prepared for this and then your body just goes go fuck yourself
Starting point is 00:55:44 But man I saw myself on video this is probably about a year ago I for this and then your body just goes go fuck yourself. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. Fuck man, I saw myself on video, this is probably about a year ago, I was, this is so stupid, but I had this fucking rotted tree in my yard and I was like trying to make a video of like me pushing it over. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And fucking dude, so like when I pushed it over, I like ran three feet and then I saw the video and I'm like holy fuck bro, like you cannot move anymore. Yeah. And then I showed it over I like ran three feet and I saw the video and I'm like, holy fuck bro Like you cannot move anymore. Yeah, and then I showed it to my brother. He's obviously I haven't heard the end of it But yeah, yeah, dude. I'm that you can't you can't comprehend that like you got it. Yeah No, you don't never had it bro. Well, this is like, you know the basketball dudes men in their 40s in basketball, if they're not continuously playing, especially,
Starting point is 00:56:29 like if they just go, I'm gonna play, I used to play ball, I'm gonna play today, it is what leads to like the most, like they go, oh dude, all we see are like ACL, Achilles' tears, like all the time. Because it's, you don't, basketball is so accessible to us, like we all grow up playing, that you don't, basketball is so accessible to us, like we all grow up playing, that you don't realize like what kind of demands,
Starting point is 00:56:49 if you're not playing regularly, what force you're putting on, you know, like so explosive. Like it's pivoting, it's jumping as hard as you can, and if you're doing that out of nowhere, it's, you know, it can really obviously go yeah yeah look that looked painful yeah it's pretty bad um let's talk why h ymh studios yeah so how long has that been rolling well I mean it's the flagship show for us is called your mom's house, YMH, and then we started producing other people's podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:28 God. How many have you got now? I mean, it's like fucking 15? No, but it's probably like seven, eight, maybe something like that. We launched another one, but yeah, I mean, it just became like, you know, we sort of slowly built the infrastructure to do it.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Obviously you start with the physical space and then you have a team that can produce and the tech guys and the social media started to branch out from there and then, yeah, it just became this thing. And then we start our own ad sales company. So instead of having an outside company, we have became this thing. And then we start our own ad sales company. So like, instead of having like an outside company, we have an internal company.
Starting point is 00:58:09 So we built an infrastructure to do all this. And then it just kind of naturally became like this thing for TV film too. So it started with that and then it started to branch out. Yeah. So is this in Austin? It's in Austin, yeah. So do people come into the building to record their shows?
Starting point is 00:58:29 Yeah. So you have multiple studios and stuff? We have multiple studios. That's fucking cool, man. Yeah, it's fun, it's fun. And yeah, it's a fun environment. Like it's, you know, it's a lot of comedians that are popping in and out,
Starting point is 00:58:40 and like staff is just fantastic there. And yeah, it's like, it's now it just feels like, you know, like the norm, but it was a slow, for sure slow process. Yeah. That's cool, man. We thought about, we were thinking about doing something similar up here, but then we figured out that
Starting point is 00:58:59 nobody wants to come here at all. Yeah. Where, to your office? To St. Louis. St. Louis. Oh. It's a flyover state, man. That's what a lot of people at all. Yeah. Where, to your office? To St. Louis. St. Louis. Oh. It's a flyover state, man. That's what a lot of people call it.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Yeah. Flyover state. Yeah. I mean. We got good food and good people here, man. I know. It is, I mean, look, it's way easier. It was way easier to book people in LA.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Yeah. You know, it's like, it's just easy to be like, drive down here, but yeah, we try to like, you know, you monitor, we monitor schedules, like, who's coming in to play the venues and all that stuff. And sometimes if it works out, it works out. Some people do fly in for it, you know, which is, it's nice.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I think they sometimes have other business in the city, which helps, right? If they're coming in for another event. But yeah. Austin's a hub right now. Yeah, it's been, That makes it a lot easier. It's become really popular. Sweet man.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I love it down there, dude. I think Austin's cool as fuck. Yeah, it is a good time, man. It's a good time. I like walking around, like the people, you know. They're a little weird. Yeah, they're a little left, but like they're not fucking California left.
Starting point is 01:00:01 No, it's like, it's a blue city and a red state, but the thing is, you're still in Texas, dude. Like, you know what I mean? And the truth is, I feel like it's actually pretty mixed. Like, when you're in the city, even if you're like, oh, this is a pretty liberal place or whatever, it's just moderately liberal. Yeah, and they're cool, they're not fucking assholes. It wasn't like this pushy shit
Starting point is 01:00:26 It was cool because we stayed we went down there a few few weeks ago month a month ago a couple of months ago What was that a couple years ago? Decade ago. Mm-hmm. Yeah Yeah, I think never like 1940 or something. That's in 40. Yeah, but we stay right around the corner from the mothership Yeah, and down there and I was a sweet area like even at night I think it was like on Thursday night Jumping down there 6th Street is it packed like that all the time 6th Street is like that's where the club is Yeah, that area is it is a I mean, yeah, it's a party area. It's bars and clubs and yeah, it's always a good man
Starting point is 01:01:00 Well, sweet, let's get it. I want to I want to do some reaction clips with you guys So I got some viral clips that are happening right now. Okay, and we're gonna do what we just talked shit on a little bit Yeah, it's fine. Um, that's fine. I think but no it's different. We do it. It's different Yeah, for sure for sure. So I got three clips are for you To react to this first one dude. This guy is making making rounds around the internet right now. Okay. His name is Frederick Vosgrove I believe is his name. Yeah, he looks Eastern European. He's German. Oh, he's German Okay, he calls himself there like the German Neanderthal. Oh I mean it suits him, but let's check this little hype video from him Okay. Yeah, I kind of like it. I'm gonna be real. That's some savage shit.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Well, I'm not gonna lie. He scares the shit out of me. Yeah, there's different humans out there. And that guy was probably built to do exactly this. To laugh like he's got three fucking brain cells firing and just maul people. Yeah. He looks part fucking animal. Yeah, how good of a fighter is he?
Starting point is 01:02:13 He's amateur, but I think he's undefeated. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience.
Starting point is 01:02:21 He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. He's got a lot of experience. three fucking brain cells firing and and just maul people yeah he looks part fucking animal yeah how good of a fighter is he he's amateur but I think he's undefeated right now I'm gonna he's amateur fighters moving up but uh he's I think he's at like 320 some thousand on IG right now and he's growing he's coming huh he's up and coming yeah he's a scary dude there's that's the kind of
Starting point is 01:02:43 dude where you're like I shoot him. I'm not fighting you guys. He created a marketing play bro, like like if I was like a dog food company You know I'm saying like that's posse this motherfucker. Yeah, like dude. This dude is straight up on our shit. Yeah. Yeah He's gonna be an animal. Yeah fucking eat this shit Like there's a play there Don't there's a dog man Yeah fucking first human athlete for I feel like he like he looks like a character in the Bible like a He looks like a movie character like that. Yeah, that's a for sure. He kind of think you shouldn't be in here
Starting point is 01:03:27 You're in Munich for whatever reason and like you just turn the corner. He's like, haha You're like, oh shit. Yeah You are you are black Yeah Now you better have a gun with that oh, yeah, this is a fuck do I don't even know if that'll work Yeah, it might not. Yeah, he's like fucking silver bullets, bro. Yeah, that's some different. That's a different. Yes, right That's a different kind of dude right there Look at his traps. Good God. All right next one
Starting point is 01:03:59 Let's go to New Orleans you have been in New Orleans many times. Yeah, I like New Orleans, bro New Orleans. You have been in New Orleans many times. Yeah, I like New Orleans, bro New Orleans is sick. They got a new story down in New Orleans. They had ten Inmates escape a jail. Hell. Yeah through a cell wall where the toilet was I saw this you saw this. Oh, yeah, man Yeah, so it was a rectangular hole In the cell it was big enough to squeeze through and then they actually wrote on top of the walls Right above it saying too easy. Lol. Suck my dick. They wrote too So let's check this clip this is from like the news conference and they're showing them all Leaving out and she'll check this out
Starting point is 01:04:42 Bro what what the fuck are we watching here? Oh they're pulling the door trying to escape yeah they broke the fucking doors. I thought he was humping the door. Because they're trying to get into that cell that's the cell that they broke out of. Ohhhh. Subsequently they go inside that cell and this is where you see them exiting the loading dock door. As you know, if you notice, they are carrying blankets with them. Well, this road that they're going out of is behind this building.
Starting point is 01:05:18 As I explained, they subsequently go through another door, hop the highway here. At some point, you will see them come through here and they scale the fence through this door that's near the construction site. Yeah. They scale that fence and then they go to escape crossing all lanes of I-Chain. Way to stay on top of shit, guys.
Starting point is 01:05:38 The cool thing about this story is that they escaped around 1230 and the sheriff's office there found out at 830 a.m. Oh, fuck. And then they notified the public after 1030. So just a cool little 10 and a half hour head start for these guys. Apparently they caught like two of them so far. Two or three, yeah, but that means there's like
Starting point is 01:06:00 seven dudes out there still. And some of them are- I'm surprised they had to escape, bro, I thought they just let these motherfuckers out now. I mean And some of them are- I'm surprised they had to escape, bro. I thought they just let these motherfuckers out now. I mean, some of them are in for murder. Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. There's some wild dogs out there right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:14 I say they get Frederick down there to go catch him. Hell yeah. No, that's crazy. Bro, that's wild. They just moved a toilet and just opened a wall and were able to Escape and then scale a wall and like nobody sees that that's really nuts to me at a jail That's our taxpayer dollars, bro. Yeah work. That is I feel like a common song should have been playing right there. Yeah freedom
Starting point is 01:06:41 Bro, it's like the Shawshank redemption. That's what it was. That's what it was Last one. Let's go to some sports But I maybe put this in Check this clip out This is women's soccer that That is awesome. I can watch that all day. That's an accomplishment. Took out two. Two birds with one stone.
Starting point is 01:07:23 That's an accomplishment. Bro, did you guys see that baseball clip where the two plays happen at the The two exact same plays happen in the same inning Like like decades apart would know fucking one inning after another it was it was Yeah, it was the same fucking play that the dude you have to look it up, man It's it's fucking crazy like a glitch in the matrix. Yes, up, man. It's fucking crazy. Is this like a glitch in the matrix or something? Yes, 100%. It's unbelievable. We gotta find it and throw it in there.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Cause like it's like, holy shit. But anyway, like the dude hits a ground ball at the third baseman, it goes off his hip, shortstop catcher throws him out at first. Same count, same inning. Like everything's the same. Same batter? No.
Starting point is 01:08:04 No, but it's one team does it and then the next oh like in the same inning. Yeah Yeah, dude, it's like you can overlay the clips And they're yeah, dude. I'm I don't know either man. Yeah, that's that's that's the freaky stuff That does make you go like what is happening here? I got it. You got it. Mm-hmm, bro. It's it For real like there's shit that's happening and it seems to be happening more and more It's like fuck like are we really in the matrix? We know the aliens are coming dude. They're telling us, dude Did you know did you know that fucking the lit? Did you know that the lady who wrote the you probably know this but like that?
Starting point is 01:08:40 I didn't know this till recently but the lady who wrote the matrix also wrote Terminator. Oh I heard about that. Yeah, and she said that like that like it's supposed to be like a fucking sequel or whatever Yeah, John Conner is supposed to be Jesus Christ. Mm-hmm to save the world from the artificial intelligence and Bro, the interview is fascinating. Hmm. I Can't think of her name you got that that clip though? Yeah, I got the clip here. Here it is. Here it is. ["The Last Supper"]
Starting point is 01:09:16 Same, alright stop. Check this out. Same inning, that's the same game. Same inning, same pitch speed, same fucking count. Same number of outs in the inning, that's the same game. Same inning, same pitch speed, same fucking count, same number of outs in the inning, same play. Yeah, it's weird shit like that. And that's not like a, if you guys aren't watching this, it's not like it's a regular ground ball.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah. Play one more time, dude. Watch the position of the players. of the players. Yeah, that's, that's freaky. That was crazy. Yeah. What are the odds of that dude? The way, especially cause of where it went
Starting point is 01:09:55 and then the bounce. Yeah. The shortstop on both. And dude, that was one, that's the top of an inning, the bottom of an inning, same pitch beat, same count, same exact play. Like, dude. Yeah, I wonder if everyone in that stadium was like,
Starting point is 01:10:14 what's going on? I don't know, man. Like, dude, more and more shit's happening where I'm like, fuck man. Do you follow all, because my wife is obsessed with all the alien shit. Dude, I don't. We cover it, we cover it pretty regularly.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Yeah, we cover it pretty regularly, but like, I'm not like super, super, super. Oh my God. Yeah, because she follows like all the congressional, like, cause. The hearings and shit, yeah. Well, see that's the thing, I don't know if it's like the real aliens or the government.
Starting point is 01:10:39 You know what I'm saying? But like, it's, one of the things that's really crazy is like, we used to have this thing where you'd be like what if you know Mm-hmm, and then you have these whistleblowers that were like, you know working in top secret places in the government they came out and they go like Here's all this shit and that they need like security because they're scared They're gonna get killed and they basically go, you know, we we do have
Starting point is 01:11:08 you know Whatever UAPs and we have Alien bodies basically we've had them for years and then you're like, why how come nobody is reacting? Like it's so weird that everyone's like they confirm it. They like, we do have this and everyone's like, yeah, anyway. And you're like, wait, this doesn't freak people out anymore. I always felt like it was strange that you would have somebody confirm this stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And we've had these and so has China has one and like, different governments have these bodies and has this technology, like reverse engineering technology. And then everyone's's like yeah, okay There it was weird how they did that they did that shit during kovat Yes, like, you know all the shit was kovat was going on and they fucking running the death count and all this shit And then they're like, oh by the way aliens are real. Yeah, these are real and no one said anything
Starting point is 01:11:59 Nobody cares. Yeah, that was weird because communicated with our lifetime. aliens. Dude, for our lifetime, that's been the big debate. Are aliens real or are they not? Of course. And it's just like, yeah, you know, it came out and then people were more worried about their fucking TikTok dances to even, they don't even mention it. Yeah, it actually even makes it feel more
Starting point is 01:12:19 like deliberate and calculated that they would kind of like slow play it during a time of unrest and have it would kind of like slow play it during a time of Unrest and and have it just kind of like, you know, here you go And then everybody's just like yeah, and then you have people going wait Don't you want to yeah make this a bigger deal and yeah, I don't care I don't know if it's like a real thing or if it's fucking like the government, you know, I'm saying well I mean conditioning shit man. I don't know
Starting point is 01:12:44 It seems like there was a lot of people that didn't want, like, the whistleblowers were terrified. Yeah. You know, so I don't think that, it doesn't feel like the government was trying to say, like, go ahead and do that, you know. But the funny thing is that these guys were terrified to say what they said, and then,
Starting point is 01:13:03 basically people were like, I don't care. Yeah, anyways, it's like, does Michelle Obama have a dick or not? Like, that's what they said and then basically people were like, I don't care. Yeah, anyways, it's like, does Michelle Obama have a dick or not? Like that's what they're worried about. Yeah, bro. It's crazy. No shit, dude. Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:13:13 It is weird, man. Tom, can we do another game? I got another game for him. What's the game? WWTD. Okay. What would Tom do? What would Tom do?
Starting point is 01:13:23 Sure, okay. This is... Okay. What would Tom do? What would Tom do? Sure. Okay. All right. All right. So I got three scenarios for you. And I need your real reaction to what you would actually do here. Okay. Okay. Your son, Julian joins Antifa. Cut him out of the will. That's for sure. Cut him out of the will that's for sure Like what the fuck are you doing he's such a fiery little dude, it's absolutely hilarious We call him Joe Pesci at the house. He's always like that. Fuck is this shit doing? What how do you talk like that man? Have you ever had to do with empty fed all have I had to deal with them
Starting point is 01:14:02 No, no, you know, I like, I'm sure you get like countless fucking, you know, hate, whatever you want to call it, hate comments and shit like that. But you never had like actual issues. No, I've never had anything like that. I also, I'm trying to picture my youngest. He's like, he sleeps with an eye mask. He's six.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He's like, I need an eye mask. I'm like, dude, like he's, it's way too uncomfortable for him to join. He would be like wait. We have to go where He's always like he's like he's six and he's like can I get a massage today? I'm like a massage He's Kush, bro. Yeah, he's he's he's living a good life Oh, that's he's not joining, but I don't know. I think I'd be so impressed that he actually Was willing to be sounds like your older one be the fucking leader, bro. Was that he'd be the leader Oh, yeah, yeah, you get him in shape, bro. Thank that older one. I think he would be like
Starting point is 01:14:53 The one who would be like, oh we're fucking we're gonna break shit He's like yeah, I'm in bro, I know No, no. No. No. All right. Next one your dog only responds to gender-neutral pronouns We're really big when people we have a cat now. Mm-hmm, and when they go She's beautiful. We always go don't misgender my cat. So we would definitely stand up We like to take it seriously, yeah, that's real we do that shit too, bro. Everybody thinks Charlie's a boy Yeah, everybody we got two bulldogs and everybody thinks the girl one who is very clearly a fucking girl. I'm really clearly Yeah, yeah, we always correct them. Don't misgender my cat. Yeah, well, there's this dude. I think what's his name?
Starting point is 01:15:38 I think he's a Gino on Instagram So he does this thing where he hops in trans people's fucking lives, like live streams. Like, oh, I see you have a dog. And I'm like, yeah, this is, you know, Bruno. And he's like, is it a girl or a boy? And I'm like, oh, Bruno's a boy. And then he's like, how do you know?
Starting point is 01:15:57 It makes you so pissed. Oh boy. It is the, I absolutely love that content. It's very easy to troll those people. Dude, it's so easy. content. It's very easy to troll those people dude. It's so easy. Yeah, it's so easy Um I got one more for you Okay, you find out your mom has been catfishing men on Facebook using your headshots from your Netflix special dude. I applaud her Yeah, just for being
Starting point is 01:16:23 Crazy and like you know what some awesome content with your mom Yeah, she's a she's a she's a real piece of work. So She's got a lot of personality So yeah, we bring her around a lot. She's very disapproving of most of the things I do which is kind of fun You know, like she hated the show so much really she hates she called me she goes I finished it and then was just quiet on the phone. And I go, what'd you think? She goes, it's horrendous.
Starting point is 01:16:49 She goes, it's the worst thing. She goes, I have friends. You know how embarrassing it is? That I have to see my friends after this? And I'm like, I don't know what to say. And she was like, anyway. I go, that's what the phone call was, just to tell me you hated it?
Starting point is 01:17:02 She was like, yes. And I go, OK. So yeah, and then she always says this shit. She's like, I go, that's what the phone call was just to tell me you hated it? She was like, yes. And I go, okay. So yeah, and then she always says this shit. She's like, I go, that's really nice. She goes, well, I can't help but be myself. And I go, you could try. You could try to be somebody else. I think we would all appreciate it if you weren't you.
Starting point is 01:17:17 Thanks, mom. Yeah, I would love if she was into catfishing people. Yeah, right, right. It'd be solid, man. It'd be solid, sweet, man. We kinda did this on short notice. Thomas coming in to get swole. Yeah, man, I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Your gym looks unbelievable. Thank you for letting us work out. Oh, bro, listen, man. Anytime, dude, anytime you come through, let's hit us up. Thank you. Thanks for sitting down with us, man. My pleasure, man. It's a little short podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:42 We did it on a short notice this morning. But, dude, I really appreciate it. Appreciate you too you too thanks there's a lot of fun guys yeah and dude you know I really fucking appreciate I just want to say this I really appreciate how not just good you are at what you do but how meticulous you are about it I think it's fucking awesome dude oh thanks I don't think people understand like how much work and attention to detail and you know Strategy and everything goes into like what you guys do and learning more and more about it. It's it's fucking cool, man Thank you, man. I appreciate that really appreciate it. All right guys Tom. Thank you, brother. Thanks so much
Starting point is 01:18:23 All right, and we will see you next time. Don't be a hoe Sleeping on the floor now my jury box froze fuck a boat fuck a stove counted millions in the cold bad bitch Booty's whoa got a on bankroll can't fold. Just a no headshot case closed

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