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07:31 I'm here in Little Rock, Arkansas, for the Arkansas Black Mayors Association. Gaila, I'll be giving the keynote speech tonight. We'll be carrying that right here on the Black Star Network. And so look forward to that conversation. Donald Trump continues to attack the Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. Now he's appointing a committee to investigate claims of mortgage fraud. This man will not stop.
07:54 And again, this is the continuation of the attack on Black America. last night you had debates taking place across the country, South Carolina, Georgia, as well as in Michigan, Nevada as well. So this is debate season will be talking about some of that also. We're talking with the brother who is running to become the next district attorney in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. We keep telling y'all how these DA races are so critically important. We look forward to hearing from him. Plus celebrating again the life and legacy of Reverend Jesse Jackson Senior. He will turn 85 years old yesterday.
08:29 We're going to show you his speech in 2018 when he addressed the National Association of Black Journalist Convention in Detroit. It is time to bring the funk. I'm rolling on unfiltered. On the Black Star Network, let's go. The twice MP's criminally convicted conman in chief Donald Trump,
09:54 he's already lost at the Supreme Court by trying to fire a Federal Reserve Governor and Lisa Cook. Now he continues to attack her. Again, his administration keeps claiming she participated in mortgage fraud. First of all, that's a doggone lie. And so now he's launching this committee, which will include Kevin Hacett, Keith Sunderling, and Andre Lucas, and no outside independent arbiters are conducting the investigation.
10:20 Cook is questioning the legitimacy of this particular panel. And so the panel and Cook is going to appear in-person hearing at the White House on November 5th. I mean, this is just the latest stupid tactic that this man has undertaken. And Lisa Cook, of course, the first black woman, a Federal Reserve governor in American history. She has been under constant, constant attack by Donald Trump and his minions. And it's just one thing after another. And as I said, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year that he could not fire her. Now, of course, the individual who was working in the administration, Bill Pulte, claimed that she actually actually.
11:04 violated the law when it came to her mortgage and his was interesting Donald Trump has actually done the exact same thing they're accusing her of doing and this is just again another attack on black folks in this country in this in this nation want to bring my panel right now dr. dr. Derek Jackson State Representative out of Georgia Dr. Zachary Kurt during us from Atlanta as well educated and content creator also Scotty Smart community organizer and author I guess this is our all Atlanta panel today. Glad to have all three of y'all here. I mean, this is, Derek, is over and over and over again. This man has been targeting Lisa Cook. And it's just, I mean, he, he wants to
11:48 fire her desperately. And the bottom line is he, but the real issue is he wants to take control of the Federal Reserve. You're exactly right, Roland. He wants to take control of the Federal Reserve. Let your listening audience zoom in on that. He wants to take control of the Federal Reserve. Governor Cook represents not only what Black Excellence looks like, but she also is saying, you can't control the Federal Reserve. So he's up here trying to talk about how he wants, I mean, we've seen this every time, right?
12:25 He wants them to hold the points, lower the points, manipulate the market. You cannot control monetary policy in this manner. And Governor Cook is showing and demonstrating what it looks like to
12:43 hold firm to her roles in responsibilities as the Federal Reserve. Here's the two things I want to just highlight, Roland. We cannot allow for the President of the United States to manipulate the economy. At the same time, while families are hurting,
13:00 They go to the gas clump. They're seeing the gas is just skyrocketing. They're going to the grocery store. And so we cannot allow the executive branch of our government to dictate monetary policy while working families are hurting. And then last but not least, this oversight committee, they are picking and choosing, as you always highlighted on your show, what they should go after. The Congress should go after the executive.
13:30 branch that's basically um um um pilfering money from universities um he's enriched himself and his family four point two billion dollars that's what the that's what congress should be doing not going after governor cook and the federal reserves the thing that's but hilarious to me zachary what legal authority does this panel happen again so they're creating this panel to investigate the allegations that that they've yet been able to prove. That's why you have a Department of Justice to investigate these things. So if you got proof, put up or shut up.
14:11 This panel has no legal authority whatsoever. If I'm Lisa Cook, I ain't showing up. We pray that Lisa Cook, that Governor Cook will not show up. This is an affront, an attack on black people, specifically black women, specifically the 92% again. This is meant to embarrass Lisa Cook. This is meant to demean and deflate black people. That's what this is all about.
14:41 I hope that she doesn't go. She shouldn't go. I want to just take a moment to tell your audience, it's just for those who may not be aware of the level of black excellence that Lisa Cook represents. When you talk about having an all Georgia panel, we're talking about a Georgianator. We're talking about a woman from Millageville, Georgia. We're talking about a woman whose relatives were in concert with Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the civil rights movement.
15:04 She is a history maker. She is a, right now Atlanta is celebrating the Spell House homecoming. People from all around the world has come to Atlanta to celebrate this huge weekend. This woman is a Spellman woman. This woman is a
15:17 martial scholar who went from Spellman to Oxford University. And now she is sitting in a historic position leading the Federal Reserve. And absolutely this man wants to take control of the Fed.
15:28 Absolutely, he wants this black woman off. But he wants to silence her like he wants to silence all black women in this country who chose to stand with democracy instead of standing with him and his fucked up MAGA values. That is the reality of this. And I pray and hope that she doesn't fall for because you're absolutely right role. And there is absolutely no legal basis. This is far, this fake, this made up, this bullshit committee that this man is trying to assemble will have Stephen Hassett and nod, please. They don't have any authority. They have no power here, no power there. And exactly as my brother just said previously, we have got to take back control of the House and the Senate is possible.
16:07 The Senate is also possible, people. If we get out and do what we have to do, we vote and we vote hard. We bring everyone we know with us to those polls and we overwhelm and we turn out in numbers too big to rig. And we will then be able to hold this administration accountable for the type of shit they're doing like this. We can shut this down. This is very likely to be one of Trump's and his administration's final moves in his last two years to demean, debate, and embarrass black America and we don't have to stand for it. Lisa Cook doesn't have to go
16:34 and I don't she does. Scottie, her term runs through 2038. The U.S. Supreme Court made it perfectly clear that he did have the authority to fire her because they have to establish what the cause means. And so now he's the point of this panel. So let me give you the names and their titles
16:52 again. So you have Kevin Hatsett, who is Trump's top economic advisor. He's the acting director of the Office of Government Ethics and Andrea Lucas the head of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. So this panel, see this was hilarious, this panel is supposed to determine if they have the facts to fire her. So if I'm Lisa Cook, wait a minute, I have a panel that has no legal authority. Lisa Cook does not work for the law. not work for the White House.
17:31 So hell no, she shouldn't participate. But again, what this is, is Donald Trump's latest attack on black people. It is simple as that, and we keep saying there's a GOP MAGA-Trump war on Black America, and this man has it out for Lisa Cook. And if they actually had the proof, and again, here's the whole deal. take it to the DOJ, take it to a grand jury. Scotty, they don't. They don't have the evidence.
18:06 They don't have the evidence rolling. And also, this is a continuation of them trying to demean power and infrastructure in this country. Every time they're someone that can hold them accountable for the negative swing that they're pushing on this country, then they try to demean it. They try to take away every report that we have to hold them accountable. They don't want accountability. They don't want you to see what they're actually doing at the government. They don't want you to get any updated reports. They want everything to be outdated.
18:33 They don't want honesty and transparency from this government. We cannot rely on them to be truth and honest about what's happening in America. They don't want us to give us job reports on time. They're firing people from food administrations to tell you everything that holds people accountable. They don't want accountability at all at any level of the government. And it continues to show how they are abusing their power. and we have 25 days before we can really hold them accountable, but I really need people to understand how all this is connected to the vote
19:03 and how if you use your voice and your power as one collective governing body against the governing body, excuse me, against the governing body of America right now, we can really move these people out of office so they can stop empowering their friends to be their accountability panel, like you just said, and act as if they're doing the right justice for the country. So let me just read for you. This is what the New York Times says. This is that this comes four months after the Supreme Court ruled five to four in favor of Ms. Cook's remaining at the Fed,
19:40 a position that she can technically hold until 2038. The justices argued that Ms. Cook had not been given adequate due process before Mr. Trump announced her removal in August of 2025. though they left unresolved a number of key issues, including what constitutes, quote, cause. Nevertheless, the Supreme Court defeat did not deter Mr. Trump, who has sought throughout his second term to pressure the Fed into lowering interest rates. His administration quickly said about trying to interpret the Justice's order, culminating in the directive Friday, which would soon see Ms. Cook mount a defense in front of the president's hand-picked committee. The committee said to hear Ms. Cook's arguments include Kevin Hassett, as I said earlier, the President's top economic advisor. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.
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25:14 on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. Keith Sunderling, the acting director of the Office of Government Ethics and Andrea Lucas, the head of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. The unique nature of the arrangement
25:40 and Mr. Trump's persistent hostility toward the Fed sparked ire among Democrats in Congress. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, the top Democrat on the Senate Bank, committee described the entire set up on Friday as a quote kangaroo court unquote the mr. Trump's making quote president Trump is convening any illegitimate show trial in his dangerous quest to illegally take over our nation central bank she said in a statement but this isn't even a trial this is a this is literally eight three people and so
26:11 let's see here they're not HR they don't have any oversight over her and again, if you're trying to establish that Lisa Cook broke the law with mortgage fraud, there is a legal process to actually establish that. It's investigated by the Department of Justice
26:35 or it's investigated in the state where it supposedly took place. And so it's either a state crime or a federal crime, if that's the case. So this committee, let me cover, everybody listening, this committee has no subpoena
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30:26 Marcus joins us right now. Again, we've got three panelists from Atlanta, so might as well have another person. Marcus, glad to have you on the show. So for the folks, explain to people, just first of all, give them the sense of the campaign that you've worked on. Oh, yeah, I was, work for Alvin Brown in Jacksonville, Florida, getting him elected as the first black mayor. I was on the Black Outreach Director for Bernie Sanders in 2016. I'm currently working and helping out on campaigns all over the nation and working in a capacity for being, like, the Chief of Staff of New Georgia Project.
31:02 So I've probably worked over 40 campaigns in my career. And so, and so because of that, you've seen. these things are close and personal. And what often happens, about this time of year, here we are, in the final stages of the campaign, is when all of a sudden campaigns
31:23 discover black people. When you then begin to see investment made, and they don't do it earlier. And you made clear that especially when you have black candidates running, there's a reason why they don't get the investments that they need.
31:40 Of course, you had Representative Angie Nixon, you know, demanding the Democratic Senate Congressional Committee, hey, are they going to invest in her campaign? She beat Alex Vindman. He raised a whole bunch of money. It's not like he can't give her campaign a million bucks to help her as well. And you make clear there's a reason why these black and brown candidates, when they run and they hire black and brown campaign managers, that's held against them.
32:08 As the prophet George Carlin said, it's a big game and everybody's, and you're not invited. These campaigns, these organizations nationally, they go out of their way to try to vet campaigns. And we got to be honest. Sometimes they vet from a very racist lens. If you don't have a certain look about your campaign, if you don't have a certain name attached to your campaign, If you don't have, they don't care about polling as much, right? They care about who they know and how they can control how they win races. And you know why this is the issue is because they want certain people to get the money that they send them.
32:53 So a black firm or a black consultant might be the best thing popping knows everything about the district, right? But if they're going to put $4 million into a race, $20 million into a race, then they want to know that their people get that money. And this is not every campaign. But this is a decision factor of one of the decision factors about why, how funding happens for these candidates. Who is the person in the back room? Who is the person that gets to do that $1 million buy?
33:22 And if you know anything about politics, you'll know that 15% of every dollar that goes to television goes into the ad buyer's pocket. So if you're doing a $4 million buy, If you have a $20 million television budget and some of these, and this is a ridiculous amount of money, then that's going to make a firm a lot of money. Don't please believe me, these big organizations understand that and factor that in when it comes down to giving candidate support. Yeah, we've had Rebecca Carruthers has been on the show. She's run campaigns. She's discussed that before.
33:57 And one of the things that they do, Mark, is that people really don't seem to understand is that you have individuals who will say, yeah, you need you need to hire. this pollster, this media agency, this buyer, this consultant. And if you don't, yeah, we're not gonna fund you. The problem now, you now have consultants who are essentially working for major donors. And so the major donors go, oh, I only listen to this consultant. So when this consultant says you should invest your money in this race or that race, then they get it.
34:33 And then what you have is, and I've seen this market's up close, You have black folks who are working on campaigns who really are working for the white consultant. And their whole deal is, oh, I'm not listening to y'all. I'm working. I got to listen to that person because, see, they're going to bring me on the next campaign and the next campaign and the next campaign. And that's really how this thing works. We're talking billions of dollars that are being spent.
35:03 And there is a tiny cabal of people who know each other, who are familiar. And look, we saw this with Kamala Harris's campaign, where you had an agency that was formed in 2023. All of a sudden, get a big media buy in 2024. Oh, the woman who had that firm, she used to work for this other firm. And the other firm also got a piece of the pie. So what they do is they'll still sit here and say, well, yeah, And this is what a 15% also comes in, Marcus. So I get $60 million.
35:39 I'm going to break off the digital to my boy. I'm going to break off the print to McGurl. And so now I get my 15. They get they 15. They get day 15. Yeah, listen, it's a quick way to lose. It's the quickest way to lose races, too. That's the thing.
36:00 Like, if you are from Washington, DC and you are going down to Waycross, Georgia, and you have no idea about the culture of Waycross. You might have some polling numbers, right? But you don't know that they might have had a football game that's very famous or a team or a certain thing in the city that everybody will be attracted to that you could possibly put in your ads. It's the reason why we get these cookie cutter ads so much. Everybody's standing in front of the porch or in front of the playground, every ad looks the same. It's because it's cookie cutter, right? And these things don't move post. Now, here's the thing, Roland. We are in a digital day and
36:43 age where that has to change because people aren't watching television as much. And they're going to have to figure out how they're going to deal with the new modern technologies that are coming up. And believe it or not, there's black folks and local areas that know how to contact folks locally. So the market is changing right now because people are getting their information in different ways. But when it comes down to winning races, more than
37:08 them just getting money, a lot of these folks lose elections because of not knowing and not having somebody from the local area actually doing the buy. Here's what I've never understood. So you're a statewide
37:24 candidate. And the DSCC sends in staff, you need to hire this communications director, this press secretary. And they're not even from the state. They don't know the media markets. They don't know the right players. They don't know the columnists. They don't know the talk show host.
37:46 So I'm like, why in the hell would you hire somebody out of D.C. Or somebody who's from Oklahoma to be the communications director for a race in North Carolina or Michigan, they ain't even from there. To me, logic says, let me hire somebody who knows my state. I was talking to, I was talking to this white guy in politics,
38:10 he told me, he said, Tammy Baldwin, Senator Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin, she runs her own campaign. She hires her own people. Who know Wisconsin? And so, and so they don't give me any of pushback. What the DSCC does, that's Senator Chuck Schumer,
38:25 Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, but they decide is no, no, no, no. We know how to run campaigns. So we're going to send our consultants after you win the primary. We're going to take over your campaign and bring in our people to run your campaign and tell you how you need to win statewide. Well, they want to keep an eye on you. It's a way to look at black campaigns. And I mean, listen, I'm not calling it racist, but there is some inherent racism about.
38:57 it because folks organically believe that black folks can't be professional. No, no, no, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, I'm going to call it racist. I'm going to call it racist when I'm going to call apartheid when you want to keep the money for yourself. Here's the reality. You cannot show me. And this is just a fact. And this is, this is going far back. But I'll say, on the Democratic side, this going back to Bill Clinton.
39:27 Obama, Biden, Harris, you cannot show me a major black political firm. I'm talking multiple millions of dollars. No, essentially in politics, black people are getting the subcontract job. They ain't never getting the prime job. It's the subcontract job. Oh, you're a black poster. You're not the main poster. you're the black poster.
39:57 If you're a black, oh, and even if you're a black campaign manager, we all know that's a title. The folks who truly run the campaign is who controls the media budget. Absolutely. Listen, if you're a black staffer in America, and shout out to all the black staffers,
40:15 shout out to all the staffers right now. I know everybody's working hard. But if you're a black staffer in America, here's what people don't understand. You've got to know other constituencies no matter what you are because you're getting judged on how much you know. The bar is so much higher for a black staffer in 2026 than other,
40:33 than people of other races. And why? Because we have to prove our professionalism. We can't make any mistakes, right? We have hundreds of thousands of dollars, and there is some inherent racism that makes folks believe that we can't balance a budget. We can't spend the money, right? And we might empower our people.
40:52 But here's what I say. There's nothing wrong. hiring that auntie that knows everybody on the street. There's nothing wrong with hiring that deacon in the church that actually has been canvassing that neighborhood for 40 years. And there's also nothing wrong with a black person who puts their viewpoint of society on a, on a channel or on air that actually matches what turns other black people out. We're supposed to be the base of the Democratic Party role.
41:17 And we don't have enough, we don't have a multi, multi million dollar firm anywhere in America. that's a shame considering how we vote consistently, right? And here's the thing. If you move black voters, you can move white voters because black folks are the litmus test of America. We know that. Black folks are literally, when America catches the cold, black folks catch the flu. So if you can oppress us, then you definitely can go out of your way and make a case for America or a case for the general electorate. Folks don't see it like that.
41:47 They want to actually have buttoned up folks that are going to report back to D.C. and tell them exactly what they want to hear and whether we should get more money or not. That's the reason why these folks are on some of our campaign. Before I go to the panel here, something else here, I need people to understand why this happens because you mentioned the media by it.
42:07 Okay, we all know, we all know that ground matters. The strategists, this is so hilarious because I said this, the last couple of months, I have been rewatching the seven seasons of the West swing. And I'm on season seven and that was the campaign between Jimmy Smith's character and Alan Alder. And the campaign was having, the last episode I just saw, the campaign was having issues and the consultants all came in. You need to put more money in save. More money. More money. More money. More ads. Here's a reality. There literally is a finite amount of space.
42:45 You do reach a point where you can't buy more television. You can't buy more radio. You can't buy, like, you just, you can't, people need to understand. The 2020 race between Osop and Warnock, there was so much money being spit in Georgia. At the local TV stations created new newscast to create more commercial spots. I'm talking about, normally, normally do you have a 5 o'clock? World News is at 5.30. I'm using Central Time. 6 o'clock evening newscasts, 10 o'clock newscasts.
43:26 Brough, they were creating 4 and 3 o'clock newscasts because the morning show and the noon wasn't enough because it was the amount of TV ad dollars and it's still, it's finite. But here's the other key. What these consultants do not want, Marcus, is with someone like you or others say, we need to put money on the ground because guess what, Marcus, they don't get their 15% when the money goes on the ground. That's why they don't, that's why, and so they want black people to volunteer to knock on doors and not pay.
43:59 So the consultants don't like to put money on the ground because there's no 15% tied to money being put on the ground. The best, the best example, Roland, the best example is Angie Nixon. Look at how she was outraged. Now, I am going to give, props to who she is as a candidate. But the best example is
44:24 Angie Nixon. Alice Vindman had enough money to buy as the whole time, right? But Angie beat out, out-organized him, right? And most of those, and did that through a volunteer effort pretty much, right? So,
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49:40 Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. She had no money. Yeah, she had no money. She was completely broke, right? But the model is shifting. And you're absolutely right, right?
50:04 I've had this argument in almost every campaign where I was a field director before I got to the level of being a campaign manager, right? And that is, can I give, why is the television people getting all the money and why aren't you hiring more people on the ground? Right? And that is such a historic argument, right? Now, a good campaign manager is going to navigate that equally. You have to have doors.
50:30 You have to have organizers. You have to have people going out in the community. Am I saying don't put anything on television? No, but what I am saying is that there is a reason why these strategists will go out of their way until the candidate you can't win without television. television is because they're getting money from it, right? So different things work in different places, but there is a monetary reason why these folks are to are you. If you haven't seen a door knocker, but you see a commercial that might be problematic.
51:00 That might be a consultant. I'll repeat that. If you are, if you have seen, if you have not seen somebody knock on your door about a campaign, but you've seen somebody on television asking you for their vote, then you were seeing it in real time. I'm gonna crack you up. I know you probably have many of these horror stories. I'm gonna take you back to 2016. So 2016, we're a Congressional Black Caucus Foundation ALC. I'm sitting at a table, Congressman Jim Clyburn, and he asked the folks in this table to come backstage. Now, the folks thought that we were going backstage to meet and greet President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama.
51:44 No, it was a meet and greet with. Hillary Clinton. So we're sitting there in line, you know, waiting for the photo. So I tell my wife to go in front of me because I knew what I was going to say to her, she wasn't going to get to speak to my wife because I was going to be in front of her. So we take the photo and I turned, I said Senator Hillary Clinton, let me tell you point blank. I said, you need to understand what's happening on the ground. I said, there is significant energy of Trump's folks and it's not with you. I said, you do not want to be a bridesmaid again.
52:21 You want to win. And I'm telling you it's a problem. So she had more pictures to take. She said, she says, so she tells Huma, Aberdeen, Marlon Marshall, talk to me. So I go on over and so I'm talking to them. And so then, and I'm telling them, and she comes over, I'm telling them, yo, I've been trying to get black male surrogates for Hiller Clinton to come on my show. I can't get him. His was crazy.
52:48 The campaign had hired Julina Maxwell and Jamira Burley. Two folks who had appeared on my show as panelists, they hired them on the campaign, but they wouldn't book them to do black media. Marcus, they were hired to do black media. They were hired to do media. But here was the problem.
53:07 The young white staffers, they didn't know black people. They didn't even understand. And so when Clinton comes, over, she goes to, she said, I don't understand. She said, if Rolla's having a problem getting people, I know others are.
53:24 And Huma goes, you know, Madam Secretary we're going to fix. She's like, she's like, she said, well, get it done. And she storms off to go talk to Congresswoman and Marsha Fudge. Now, mind you, I told the black staffers the day before I was going to do that.
53:39 I went on MSNBC the afternoon and said it the same thing. The black staff was mad at me because I did it. I said, well, damn, I was back in y'all. Not Julian and Jamira, others. I said, I was back in y'all. I'm trying to give, trying to empower y'all. The next day, you can say you work for Alvin Brown. The next day, I sent a request at 10 a.m. I want to Alvin Brown on my time joiner segment Monday morning.
54:11 Marcus, this is no lie. 11 hours passed. and they never, ever confirm Alvin. I finally had to call Donald Brazil or somebody and got him on a show. And I literally just told him on Saturday night that was a problem. And this is also one of the issues. You largely have white staffers that don't know black neighborhoods, that don't know black journalists, that don't know black politicians,
54:37 that don't know black power brokers, and they're sitting here deciding who goes where, and then you're like, okay, oh, no wonder we ain't seeing no black people, because, again, the campaigns, they have empowered white staffers, typically young white women who know nothing about black America, and then they wonder why they can't reach black people. Roland, there's one more deeper issue that I want to touch, and that is strategy. We got to look at it.
55:10 When it comes down to some of these decision-making processes, especially when it comes down television versus field or certain people being in charge of the money and sending it to the campaign you got to look at whether people want this is a big thing and we don't talk about it much do they want to expand the base that means do more outreach to black voters or do they want to get moderate white people is this is this is the argument of the century right here do the do camp do the The leadership in D.C. is so addicted to white women in the Midwest, right, when we're talking about presidentials, right? They're so addicted to moderate Republicans, like super moderate Democrats, the swing voter, instead of-
55:58 Independence. Independence. Right? And instead of increasing what you already have to win elections. Now, I'm not saying if we had, we voted at 90% of the black community, 100% we still wouldn't win some elections, but this is the key point about the money thing and the decision makers. And yeah, I will say Chuck Schumer. And I will say the leadership across the nation with a lot of these major organizations. This is not a diss. There is an addiction.
56:29 I learned this on Bernie Sanders campaign. I learned this dealing with politics in general. There is an addiction for white moderate people. And expanding the base means. And what's easier for these guys who don't have any connections to the black community to do? It's easier for them to talk to white people and expand and try to reach out to moderates and flip them from going Republican. So therefore, I wouldn't be surprised when we start seeing commercials aimed at MAGA people versus increasing the base of black and Latino people who have been affected by this administration at a high level. I will not be surprised to see.
57:08 I will not be surprised to see consultants basing their decisions on, on, hey, let's just talk to the white folks with white women. That's what we need. Meanwhile, black voters and the people who are hurting, poor people and the people who are hurting, all you got to do is hit them with a couple of commercials from a black person that knows how to speak to them. And voila, magically, you'll have a high turnout of black folks that will sort of circumvent the need to try to compete. Republicans to get there these voters. So that's that is a bigger issue to this also why we don't get money. It's because
57:46 we talk to black. Of course. They don't want that. I'm going to bring in Zachary. Zachary, 2004. There was a lot of media hype talking about how Donald Trump and Republicans really targeted content creators, podcasters,
58:04 uh, the, the Maga Bros, all of them. And New York Times, and all these places. They did all these different stories. I was one of the founding members of good influence with Brian Tyler Cohen and others, you know, folks in terms of, you know, in terms of other different voices. And here's two, was amazing to me. Was amazing to me that after Democrats got Shalat, got the butt out organized and out mobilized when it came to digital media, here we are in 2006 and these same campaigns are doing the exact same. same thing, making no real investment, wanting folk to be sharecroppers, work for free. And I'm sitting here going, and here you go again, you're listening to these idiotic, largely white consultants.
58:56 Over and over and over again. And I hate to say it, but those are the campaigns that I can't give a damn about. Those are the campaigns that I'm not making any fucking content for. Those are the campaigns that I'm not going to lobby my audience and my support is through this activist. If that's where your followers can follow me on Instagram or TikTok or right here on YouTube or my subsect, the color section, I am not going to give them any of my attention because they're stupid as hell. You are absolutely right. We saw the mistakes that were made in 2024.
59:27 And I'll be damned if our candidates across the board, many of them are making the exact same mistakes. And I'm so glad you brought on markets for Georgia. I'm so glad that's how you can follow that gentleman on social media. He makes amazing, amazing, amazing content, hilarious, satirical content. Sometimes it's extremely great parody, but it's something I think that your followers would love to follow him. Again, Marcus for Georgia, I'm so thankful that he was here to bring that insight to us. I want to emphasize that, you know, we have got to finally find a way, and I don't know
01:00:00 how to do it, Roland, I have no clue because if the biggest voice in black independent media, and that's you, bro. That's you. If you cannot break through to these people, I don't know who can. You have a track record of success. You have the metrics. You have the data. You have the crowdfunding experience and ability.
01:00:20 You have been able to put people at the forefront in regards to the races that they run. And they still aren't listening to you. They're still listening to these dumb-ass pod roles. I'm talking about cricket media. They're still listening to these people who have no achievement
01:00:36 behind their name except the campaign from 2008. It's all the fuck they got. Those are the go-to people in this industry that they're listening to. Instead of listening to our proven leaders and the real boots on the ground, I don't know how we can break through to them except let these motherfuckers like that lose and rally behind the people that are doing the right work. Rally behind the Governor Moore. Rally behind the Hakeem Jeffries.
01:00:58 The people that we see, when I see them right here on Roland Martin, I know that's someone who I can stand behind in support. I have to see them here. to have the Roland Martin endorsement of not necessarily saying you support them, but saying that they have given the time to be on this show. Even better when I see the ads, like I just saw the ad of the lady running for the courts in North Carolina. When I see that they're giving them money to independent media.
01:01:23 Let me real clear. No, let me real clear. Let me real clear. I'm running that ad for free. Let me real clear. I want to see. I understand the stakes. Anita Earles needs help.
01:01:36 I made that decision. North Carolina Democratic Party ain't spending no money on this show. And they haven't. Listen, we ain't had and but see here's the thing and I'm going to bring Marcus in because Marcus here's the whole point.
01:01:52 First of all, the reason they ain't spending, because let's just be real clear. This right here. This right here. But here's the other thing. And Marcus, you've been on the insides. The other problem is that there are black people who are on the inside,
01:02:06 who are comfortable with the peace or the crumbs that they've gotten and they don't move as a collective to put their foot's down. I said last year, last year I said this, I said that the black caucus and other black elected officials across the country should have called and demanded a meeting with the entire infrastructure, the DNC, the DSCC, the DCC, the D-Triple-C, the Democratic Governors Association, the group that deals with state legislators, and all of these different PACs, and said, enough is enough. But markets, that has not happened. And you know what ends up happening?
01:02:52 The same folk, be whining and complaining at September, October, about lack of investment. Well, if you never use your power, you never going to get anything. Yeah, I don't know them folk, though, because when I get on the campaign, I'm trying to hire. I'm trying to put everybody on. It is what it is. And not just say I'm just trying to throw away money, but if you have a major campaign and you have an opportunity to bring people behind you,
01:03:22 that's your responsibility as a person in this business. You need to be teaching other folks. You need to be trying to hire your folks. If you have access to a budget, you got to bring us on. I mean, it's that simple. I know it sounds crazy, but it's that simple. Why? Because them folks doing it.
01:03:37 they they they're gonna put their partners in the game you're gonna see cousins wives every time everybody's getting a piece of the pie so if you are in a campaign and you playing gatekeeper when it comes down to black people shame on you right by the way it's markets for america y'all can follow me at markets for america on instagram and other places but it's shame on you right um we have a response of a responsibility to make sure that money goes into the streets and and not wasted right Let's not get wrong. There are some people that will take your money and run, right?
01:04:12 But that's not for the most of these street vendors. The guys who say, hey, man, listen, I'm going to get you on the ballot. It's like in Chicago, but you're trying to get on the ballot and you need all them signatures, right? There's some guys that will try to take your money. But for the most part, these young folks are out here trying to make some money and they're going to get your name out there. Right? Having paying somebody to talk positively about and change the perception of the perception of the about an unknown candidate is important.
01:04:41 Also, yeah, you do need to have your commercials, but why is this commercial so lame, right? Well, it's lame because they're going to go cookie cutter with a candidate that might be the most dynamic candidate on the planet, but you're not going to get that ad out of. Shout out to the Nixon campaign. Shout out to Angie Nixon. Shout out to the Keisha Lance Bottoms.
01:05:02 Shout out to Clyde Jones down there in Alabama. These folks who are running campaigns with, like, Like, not as much money as their opponent, but doing different things to get their candidate out there. And you know why this is happening? Black leadership. Point blank. Black leadership. There's black people running these campaigns.
01:05:19 And, you know, I'm pretty certain that there's folks that are mad at that right now, Rowling. I'm a thousand percent certain that the final decision maker is a black person behind the scenes. Upsets a lot of national organizations. And it's only because their folks are not getting a piece of the money. money rolling people have yachts off of politics yachts meanwhile black staffers have to go from campaign to campaign to campaign just to keep food on their table it's a shame yep oh it's crazy uh uh uh uh derrick you know my my question is simple and it's for i know i know this is This is Roland Martin Show, but my question is simple.
01:06:10 Roland, we provide the forensics after every election. I watch you, my dear brother. You had a conversation with Jim Clyburn, and y'all laid it out. Just a couple of weeks ago after the Congressional Black Caucus event up in D.C., Marcus, and Dr. Zach. I mean, we give the forensics after every election. And these gatekeepers, Roland, you already did the road call D-Triple-C, D-S-CCC, all of them. They know this too. The question is why they're not doing it?
01:06:52 Because they want to win, Roland. They want to win, Marcus. They want to win, Zachary. They want to win. Why are they not doing it? No, they don't. I mean, we continue to perform every time. I love the example about Angie Nixon.
01:07:05 Andy Nixon had $800,000 against a person with $16 million. Right? Marcus, you want to answer that? You know, why are they not doing it? Dr. Derek, by the way, it was nice seeing you last week. Dr. Derek, no, they don't win. I mean, listen, if you want to win, what you do is you ask Angie Nixon, how did you do that with no money?
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01:12:24 on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your friends. podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. Implement their status quo to the Dixon campaign later on. If you don't do this, you don't do this, you got to guarantee this, and then you have to change your policy about X, Y, and Z. I ain't going there right now, but that's a part of it too, right? Black folks typically care about things that the DNC might not necessarily want to talk about
01:13:02 or not the DNC or these major organizations. They also don't fund us because we think differently. We want different things for our people. Somebody might mess around and say the reparations word. Somebody might mess around and say something about police reform. Like these things are a part of it. But for the most part, when you have successful, very successful campaigns, they're not asking how do I replicate this in the Midwest.
01:13:27 They're looking at as an enigma. But I hate to be like this, but the Nixon campaign is not an enigma. There's going to be more campaigns that do the same exact thing. Why? Because people care about, there's going to be a lot of campaigns coming in the near future, in two years, next year, maybe even this year. We might see a Mississippi win. We might see a South Carolina win. We might see a Georgia and Florida win off of people who are being drastically outraged,
01:13:56 but better organizers in general, and they're talking the right language that voters want to hear. I mean, I hate to be like this, but these organizations, they're not the biggest fans of the policies that these folks are pushing also. You've got to understand that.
01:14:12 That's why the money doesn't come fast. Angie Nixon's out here talking about things that would make some of these organizations' leadership say, I'd rather lose than have that come up here. I'd rather. I'd rather have another Republican than have her come up here and be serving as a senator. And we have to be realistic about these things. Is it every organization? No.
01:14:35 Is it every national organization? No. But we have to be realistic about policies and black folks being real black folks. You got Angie Nixon bobbing their head to plaz and having a better social media game than anybody else in the nation. These things happen because these are real folks. And frankly, real people going to D.C. Scares the hell out of D.C. leadership. Scotty, your question for Marcus. Not necessarily a question, but we have to understand,
01:15:10 like he just said that we are disrupting the status quo at this current time, right? Like, they don't want to see change in this magnitude coming from the South. The South have 60% of our population in the South, and they don't want the change in the status quo. My question to Marcus would be, how do we get to the point where we aren't
01:15:28 relying on the same establishment Democrats to fund these campaigns. When do we get to the point as Black America? Where do we find our resource? Where are our million athletes, entertainers, going to realize it's time for them to invest in politics? So many people come from these low-income communities and say they care. We don't see them stand next to and champion for people from their communities to get into politics that can create real change in neighborhoods. So my question to us is to stop being so reliant.
01:15:58 on them before when do we get to the point so I said something before market before Marcus answers that I'm gonna use this show as an example first of all is black people we gotta stop saying where are the athletes and the entertainers bruh they ain't coming to save us let me just be clear they ain't coming to save us this show launched eight years ago in the history of this show of this show of the more than Keenan, seeming the new number, of the more than the 50,000 donors of this show, three entertainer, three entertainers slash sports figures are among the 50,000. Political campaigns, same way.
01:16:46 Those campaigns are those one, five, ten, twenty-five, fifty-dollar donations, small donors. Marcus, the problem is a lot of us, we keep thinking, oh no, the rich folk, no, no, no, no. Small donors drive a lot of these campaigns. Now, granted, you got folks with lots of money who give as well. But what I have been arguing, Marcus, is that don't send your money to the party. Don't send your money to these groups. I say support also black grassroots organizations that will put money on the ground, that will hire staffers, that were hired people to go precinct walking.
01:17:25 That's why I tell people, man, give your money. to black voters matter what they're doing. Because if they are ones who are truly on the ground, and that's how you actually make the difference. Mark is your thoughts. Yeah, listen. Brother Scott, like Rolla said, they're not coming to save us. This is how we fix it.
01:17:46 Civics, 101. We have to actually empower our people to talk to each other. Local donations. And we need people running for school board. Why? Because we need to put civics back in school. Like, this is how we actually foundationally change politics from the ground up. People have to actually care and know that the reason why they're not getting their school isn't funded.
01:18:13 And free lunch is cut off in their electricity bill is high because an elected official decided to do a backroom deal with somebody who has a data center or somebody who likes fly cameras, right? we have to teach these people. So the model has to change. And what I mean by the model is Absolutely. The whole, like, if we're dependent on money to win our elections,
01:18:38 then we're forever going to be losing. We're going to always, right now, as it is, we will always have less money than people who don't like the black community. It's that simple. We're always going to get outraged. But we don't have to be out organized. We don't have to be outspoken to.
01:18:59 Like our, like, the barbershop is a gold mine. When you come in there and actually have relatable issues to what black men want to hear. We have to change the model completely. Well, what you're talking about is, stop thinking money. Start thinking. Well, what you're talking about is, and again, my deal is, and again, you don't have to be from Florida to support Andrew Nixon's campaign. You don't have to be from Florida to support Elisa Simmons. running for Tarrant County Judge. My next guest I'm gonna be talking to him is run for
01:19:29 DA in Baton Rouge and so again you can be donating directly but also what would you just laid out Marcus my book my new book Black Ford y'all go ahead and show it this is what I'm talking about I late what you just described what Gary Chambers is doing in Louisiana I laid that very thing out come on guys show it they right there what you're talking about we have to be we have to go back to citizenship education training have to go back to the model of the folks who came out of the civil rights movement who were a neighborhood base. You can't be so fixated on TikTok and Instagram. It has to still be personal touch,
01:20:08 teaching and educating people the day after the election is over. And so Marcus, I appreciate you coming on the show. Folks, follow him, Marcus for America. I'm telling you all, we have got to change the dynamic. And I do believe Marcus, if we push folk to be voting at 70, 80, 90% of capacity, we can win a whole bunch of races. I appreciate it, bro. Thanks a lot. Thank you for having me, man. I appreciate you. All right. I'm not going to take a break. I'm going to go right into our next guest. Go ahead and pull up y'all. I've told y'all how critically important. You know, why am I running those commercials of Anita Earle? She's on North Carolina Supreme Court.
01:20:44 Okay, that's critically important. DA races are critically important. In Baton Rouge, my next guest, Ryan Thompson, he is the East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney, candidate and he is running there. This is so important. Ryan, for so long, he's running against Hillar Moore, the third, trust me, folks. Ryan, this was crazy. For years, people came to Washington, D.C., and they were fighting for, you know, criminal justice reform, and they were talking about me to change these federal laws. Not understanding, not understanding that the most important individual that can determine real criminal justice reform?
01:21:27 It's not a congressman. It's not a U.S. Senator. It's not a president. It's not a governor. It's not a state senator. It's not a state rep. It's not even the judge. It's literally the district attorney.
01:21:42 That is correct, sir. The district attorney does is the chief prosecutor in the parish. You guys call them counties. For instance, we had an elderly black man who was killed in a Trader Joe's parking lot. several years ago, a 21-year-old male who said that the South will rise again and posted other type of KKK imagery on his website, shot and killed that elderly disabled man. And he was given 18 months in prison because the district attorney did not buy out the firearm enhancement.
01:22:11 I've been on your show before with the Brave Cave where thousands of men, women, children, an elderly woman who had prescription pills and a firearm was unconstitution. and the officers were not held accountable because the district attorney did not investigate the allegations that were put forth by that woman. And so, yes, the district attorney is the most powerful person in not, if not the state for my state, but also, but definitely the parish of East Van Roos parish and controls a lot of the policies as it relates to prosecution and who's held accountable and who's not. Yeah, and a lot of people were criticizing Colin Harris. because of her record when she was district attorney in San Francisco, but she talked about being smart on a crime. When you talked about deferment programs, DAs can do all sorts of things along those lines. And so again, there's a difference between getting a prison or a jail sentence and getting probation and getting house arrest going into some other type of program for substance abuse, for anger management. the DA plays the central role in determining what that is?
01:23:27 That is correct. Currently in our parish, we have two major universities. One is Louisiana State University and also Southern University. Currently, if you are a student who is attending in Louisiana State University, LSU, then you are arrested. You are three times more likely received diversion versus if you are a student at Southern University. That is a problem. That is a disparity.
01:23:48 And so the district attorney controls a lot to who. becomes a criminal who receives diversion and who gets a second, third, or fourth chance. That is correct. So, why is your campaign looking in terms of, you know, how are you reaching out people to get them to understand why they must turn out? I would dare say the last 10 years, progressives, liberals, Democrats have finally woken up because the old model used to be, oh, you were a tough on crime, lock them all up. You got the endorsements of the police union, the firefighters union, you know, state patrol, all of that.
01:24:29 But you've seen Maryland Moseby in Baltimore, Larry Krasner in Philadelphia. You've seen Fox in Chicago, Armas Ayala in Florida, Moniqueville, there as well. Other examples where we're seeing a new type of district attorney as opposed to the old typically white male conservative law in order. DA. Yeah, so I'm a former public defender. I wrote in the office of the public defender for 10 years, and it's where I saw the broken approach to justice. I mentioned the Trader Joe's case, Mr. Buckley, but you're absolutely right. We're running a campaign based on a Safemore, Just Ben Rouge. We're running a ground game. Gary Chambers Jr., who you mentioned earlier, is running the ground game here. We've knocked upwards of 45,000 doors at this point. We've been all across the parish.
01:25:22 talking to white, black, male and female, and everyone says the same thing. They want more accountability. They want safe communities. And they want a different approach to justice because the current approach to justice that is being carried out by the district attorney's office does not have us all more safe and is not equal justice in all of our communities. So we're running a grassroots campaign. We have upwards of 200 volunteers. We have on a great day. We have probably 60 volunteers on the ground knocking doors. On a minimum day, we have 20 volunteers on the doors and it's 100% volunteer base. So we are carrying out a new model.
01:25:57 People are seeking justice. Some of us call some people call us progressive district attorneys, but I wouldn't say that. I would say that we are district attorneys who are carrying out justice and running for, again, a safe parish or counties, what you would call it. So, yes, we're moving right ahead. We're making sure that everyone is held accountable. We're addressing the 1800 homicides here in this parish. we're applying the approach that's being applied in Baltimore, where we're using violence interventionists.
01:26:28 We're looking at using faith-based leadership. We're identified the individuals who are at risk for committing crime or we're at risk for being victims of crime. So it's a different approach that's being applied here. Questions from our panel. Scott, are you first? Yes. With the, what you're running for election, how long has the incumbent been in office that you're running against and how much do you think that, oh, well, excuse me, just pop the bottom of the screen
01:26:58 20 years. Is the community connected to the incumbent and seeing that he has done so much negativity for the community that they are leaning towards you? Because we had a similar situation here in Atlanta, Georgia, where Paul Howard was in office of 27 years, and the community didn't get behind him. They got behind finding Willis. So how is the rhetoric around him being in office for so long and what he has done to tear down the community so far?
01:27:24 So we're knocking doors again with this grassroots campaign. We've knocked upwards of 35,000 doors all across the parish. And people are all saying the same thing that they have not seen their district attorney. I've been in several forums and instances where he's been invited. He has not come to answer the tough questions. Again, when you have an 18-year incumbent, there's tons to highlight. Example, there is a instance where we've had a woman who was a, a school teacher and she was arrested for marijuana and cocaine in the school.
01:27:58 And that person is now receiving diversion because the district attorney's brother is representing that individual. The community knows about these things. They want to hear from him about why certain individuals are receiving diversion and others are not. They want to hear why the killer of Mr. Buckley received 18 months in prison. And the firearm on Hansen wasn't used, but with other individuals from other zip codes, they're getting the max penalty. They're asking for the max. So the community is very much so aware the individuals that we've talked to,
01:28:28 the people who we've engaged, they're very much so aware of what's going on with this 18-year incumbent, and they want to ask him a tough question, but he failed to show up. All right, then. Derek. Ryan, first off, thank you for stepping up and run for office, man. I know it's not easy.
01:28:48 I'm a legislator right here in Georgia serving my fifth term. But when it comes down to law, enforcement, it's not so much about the message, right? It's more about the policies. When I think about our communities, specifically black communities, when it comes to law enforcement DAs, solicitor generals and things of nature, our communities, listen, we're hurting too. You've always said that. You already said how we're hurting. We want safety. We want accountability too. What policies are you advocating for or at least, you know, sharing in our black communities down there to educate them, build awareness, but more importantly, get you over the threshold and when come November 3rd.
01:29:37 And so, you know, safety is a message that everyone wants to hear. But when you're talking about accountability, I'm not against law enforcement. I'm against bad officers, right? And so when you have an allegation of bad officers, we're going to investigate that, specifically when you're talking about the policy that my campaign is putting forth. Usually when there's an allegation against a bad officer,
01:30:01 that goes through the Internal Affairs Department. Through the district attorney's office, when we get an office, we're going to allow people to actually file a complaint with our office, and we're going to investigate that. And if we find that there is an allegation... The music you love. Your favorite radio stations,
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01:34:02 The talent is insane and the personalities are giving main character energy. And of course, the fans love it. But 30 years ago, when the league first started, it was a different story. I remember sitting with a couple of male writers. all whining about, oh, what are they going to do if they break a nail? No one's going to show up. But from the very beginning, there were two teams that captured everyone's attention. The Comets were to real deal.
01:34:26 I mean, come on. The Liberty never gave up. They never stopped fighting. I knew that rivalry was going to be amazing from the beginning. I'm Kerry Champion, and this is biggest rivalries of all time, season two. The New York Liberty versus the Houston Comets, the very first rivalry of the WNBA. They picked us to finish last, and they picked them to finish first. That's all you need to know.
01:34:49 I remember looking around thinking, this is going to change things. Basketball was going to have this fundamental impact on the way people viewed women athletes. Listen to biggest rivalries of all time on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. that is supported by evidence of wrongdoing, we're going to prosecute them like anyone else. We're going to hold them kind of like anyone else. Because right now in our parish, the trust in the justice system is at an all-time low.
01:35:31 And as you know, police officers oftentimes are not the first ones to respond. I mean, they're oftentimes responding to a crime. They're not there when the crime has been committed. And so if you don't have the community support, they don't believe in the justice system, and they're not participating willing to show up as witnesses, wanted to provide information, then it makes us all less safe. And so when police are held accountable, when there is wrongdoing, and the police and the community believes in the justice system
01:35:58 in the district attorney's office that this will be fair. That will be held accountable, it will make us all more safe. And so to say it again, if there is an allegation that a police officer commits a crime, it will be investigated by my office and they will be held accountable if they are found to have violated the law. Zachary. You know, it's great to see you and knowing a little bit about East Baton Rouge Parish,
01:36:28 East Baton Rouge Parish and the fact that it's a very racially divided demographic makeup where it's kind of 50%, 50% white, 50% black, you know, at a 45, 45, you know, what will be key in you winning this race and how can we help support you and turning out that vote
01:36:44 that you need to get over the finish line, especially with defeating someone like Hilar, someone who's like this, like more. I'm surprised he's been able to stay there so long. And he's doing a brief research, this man, doing a brief research of how he's served or his lack of true services to people. What can we do to help you get over the finish line?
01:37:01 It's people who are outside of the district. So if you're outside of the district, you can go to the website, Ryan Thompson for the district attorney. You can also go to my social media and sign up for our volunteer-based program. We've just launched a phone banking program. and you can sign up to help me phone bank. You can also donate to the campaign
01:37:19 and help us fund this grassroots campaign. We're 100% volunteer-based, so that means that all of the resources that you contribute will go strictly to the campaign. It will go to help fund our door knockers, the campaign materials. It will help feed our volunteer workers. It will go towards a Sefmore-Just-Ban Rouge.
01:37:42 And so we're encouraging people to sign up to volunteer. You can choose whatever hours you want to volunteer in terms of phone banking. And then again, if you want to volunteer $2, $20 or $200, it will all go towards the volunteer-based program to help us get across this finish line. Our goal is to knock about 100,000 doors. We're well on our way to doing that again. We've knocked about 45,000 doors in the parish. And we're knocking every day. When I leave here, I'm going out into the field to knock more doors and engage more voters. So we're asking people to donate, but as well as to participate in our phone banking program. Now, see, Ryan, I got to help you.
01:38:21 First rule, you can't say go to the website and give if you don't get a website. The website is Ryan Thompson for District Attorney. Ryan Thompson for DA.com. You can also go to Ryan Thompson. Yeah. Ryan Thompson by Instagram and click the link in my bio to also sign up as well. Thank you, sir. Yeah, but see that down.
01:38:42 See, that's too many steps. Trying to go to Instagram, click the link in the bio. No, you got to get that website. There's too many politicians I have on this show who don't. See, you got to see, Ryan, I'm going to give you one more advice. You got to hit that website three or four times in the interview. You've got to slide that Ryan Thompson for DA.com a little bit more. You can't just save it.
01:39:03 You're trying to raise some money. So come on now. Listen, I know I know how to raise money for my show. Trust me, I don't do it just one time. See, I think you're holding it against me because I'm the good news. I've been watching it. I know what's going on here, but it's okay. Ryan Thompson.
01:39:20 No, no, no. But clearly you CAPAs don't know how to raise money, so us ALFAs have to keep teaching y'all. But again, we used to having to teach CAPAs how to do this thing. See, you shouldn't even brought it up. I don't even know you a CAPA. See, now you're done made it worse because, see, now I got to embarrass you. So, Ryan Thompson fordisc attorney.com.
01:39:46 No, it's not. No, it's Ryan Thompson for DA.com. I'm sorry, but you're right. Apologies about it. See, there you go. Alfa still teaching. All right. There you go.
01:39:57 All right, Ryan. Good luck. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank you, sir. All right, folks. We're going to go to quick break. We come back.
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01:45:04 she's running for United States Senate here in Arkansas. Of course, we've been looking at a lot of these races, of course. The incumbent here is Senator Tom Cotton, not somebody who I'm a fan of. Glad to have you here. And one of the reasons why is because I've never seen an individual literally say we don't lock up enough people. The millions and billions being spent in this country and you have a United States Senator who literally believes and lock you up more people. And in fact,
01:45:32 he was against the First Step Act. Oh yeah, you're absolutely right. And thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. Tom Cotton, he loves to talk tough. But at the end of the day, it's all about creating opportunities for our families here in Arkansas, for our communities here in Arkansas. Right now, Tom Cotton is all about locking folks up in private prisons and sending our money overseas instead of investing it right here in places like Little Rock in places like Arkansas. When I looked at, of course, as we've been tracking this whole thing in terms of this economy, and when I started seeing MAGA voters in Nebraska, farmers, complaining, I saw these interviews of folks in Arkansas. And I'm sitting here going, hashtag, we tried to tell you. And a lot of these people thought that Donald Trump
01:46:23 and Republicans in the Senate were going to be their friends. Now they are realizing the economic pain. And it's what's crazy to me. I've had Democrats tell me members of Congress, CBC members, they've had Republicans from other states come and asking them for help. And they're going, wait, I'm sorry. Did you bypass your member of Congress, your United States Senator?
01:46:45 I mean, you're absolutely right. I'm a farmer myself. I'm a six-generation farmer from a gravel county road, soybeans, corn, rice, wheat, and cotton is what I grew up with. And we actually closed our family's farm last year because of the farm crisis. You know, Tom Cotton voted against the farm bill twice. And you're absolutely right. Farmers across the state, they are feeling the pain. From not having a farm bill, from the war in Iran that Tom Cotton wanted and finally got, we're paying the price at the pump, at the grocery store. Things are changing on the ground. I hear every day from folks who voted for Trump, who voted for cotton.
01:47:16 who feel like they're ready for something different. They're ready for a farmer, a mom, a wife, a daughter, a caregiver, ready to have someone fighting for them every single day in the Senate. How do you truly convince them to get past what Howard Dean said in 2004? 2004 Howard Dean said, God-gaze guns. That's what Republicans always lock on. And we've seen all across the country, whether we're talking Arkansas, whether we're talking Oklahoma,
01:47:41 whether we're talking Tennessee, South Carolina, Mississippi, where in states where you don't have significant black population, largely white voters voting against their own economic interest. How do you convince them? Well, you know, the grocery store, it doesn't have a Democrat price and a Republican price, and neither does the gas pump. I think at the end of the day, it's about these pocketbook issues.
01:48:05 It's about whether or not you can afford to feed your family, whether your job's going to be there the next day, whether your town's Main Street is closing and your young people are moving away. folks are reading the writing on the wall and they're making the connection between bad economic policy and what's happening to them at home. We've discussed this with Representative Angie Nixon
01:48:22 in Florida, Scott Colombe, and Mississippi. Are you seeing any investment from Chuck Schumer, Kirsten Gillibrand, and D.S.C.? Now, the Republican Party, the National Republican Party is spending more time paying attention to this race than the National Democratic Party. But honestly, that's okay. I really feel like Arkansas
01:48:39 is one of those states that's unique because most of us aren't registered with a party, We're pretty independent-minded folks, and we can assess each candidate and platform independently, which is why a poll, an independent poll, put us ahead of Tom Cotton at three and a half points just a few weeks ago. In terms of what do you see in the response from African-American voters in this state, one of the things that I've consistently said is that to black communities, that that turnout number needs to be at a minimum 70% of capacity. because at the end of the day, if you're seeing 52, 54, 56% turnout, you're not maximizing your numbers.
01:49:16 And so what are you seeing? What are you hearing in terms of energy among black voters? We're hearing a lot more energy on the ground, especially in our Delta communities, which of course is where I'm from. But I understand, you know, Arkansas is one of the lowest voter turnout states in the country. And I understand why, because I'll go down to Lake Village in the Deep Delta, and there are potholes so big you can get your car stuck in them. And because the city doesn't have enough money, they put gravel in it and put a cone on top. And you can't support businesses or bring in industry with roads like that. And they really feel like they've been left behind, not just by Republicans, but by Democrats as well. And so it's taken a lot of time for me to go to these places, show up, shake hands, look people in the eye and say,
01:49:59 I too am a daughter of the Delta. I too know what it's like to come from a town that has been divested of and ignored for so long. and I think we have so much more potential than that. I believe in these communities, and I want folks to know that I'll fight for them every day. So what type of mobilizing organizing is happening? Because, and also, we look at what Angie Nixon did in Florida. I mean, she barely raised a million dollars.
01:50:21 Vindman raised $16 million, and she blew him out. Are you looking at other grassroots-driven campaigns that are not where you have tons of money and you're dumping money up on television ads? Absolutely. I think the biggest strides we've made is with our young Democrats. They have been organizing college campuses across the state, and there's so much enthusiasm. I was at the University of Arkansas the other day at Henderson, at Washington, at Washington,
01:50:45 and they are really feeling like they have an opportunity, finally some hope, because I think they see themselves in me as someone who's not as young as I used to be, but still not part of the gerotocracy. I think young people are ready for something different, and I hope they see that in me. All right, so you've got what next weekend, Arkansas Pied Blime Bluff Homecoming. You're going to be there? Yes, I am. Looking forward to it.
01:51:09 All right then. Well, let's see. Well, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you. I doubt is happening, but have you all had a debate? So our debate is on Monday, but Tom Cotton is not coming. I will not be standing on the stage with him, and that is because either he feels like he's too good for us or he's scared.
01:51:24 So you y'all haven't debated at all? No, and he's not going to. He feels like he's too good or he's scared. Neither one of those helps Arkansas. Well, that sounds like Ken Paxson in Texas. where I'm from. So all right. Callie Schaffer, I certainly appreciate it. Thank you much. All right, good luck. All right, thank you very much. Go to my panel here. Derek, I want to start with you. The point that you made there about
01:51:42 reaching out to black rural voters. Whenever we hear this conversation about rural voters in this country, typically people are thinking white. But when you think about your state of Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, these southern states, you have a significant number of black voters who will live in rural parts of the state. And so you can, you can't just have a black city strategy you should you got to have a black rule strategy as well yeah you got and that black rule strategy is 100% ground game let me say that one more time rolling the black rule strategy to touch black voters in the rural parts of the state is simply a ground game it is not the television is not radio. You have to have 100% contact. We suggest here in Georgia, you got to
01:52:41 touch that black rule voter eight to 10 times. I suggest 12 times, right? Because the infrequency of the information, familiarization, and establishing a relationship. It goes back to what we've been talking about this evening. If you do not have a ground gap, And folks knowing that you can go talk to Marcus, you go talk to Scotty, go talk to Zachary, right? They know each other. And if you get someone outside of them rule parts to come in to Valdosta, we don't know you.
01:53:20 It's great that you may know something about us, but you're not of us. And so it goes back to what Zachary mentioned, what Marcus and what you said, Roland. rolling so you and you can't come at the last minute we get rolling we got 25 days we start voting though we tell we telling everybody rolling don't wait till november 3rd we start voting here in georgia on october 13th that's four more days and we're doing a big push to come out on the 13th and thereafter and so we got our dear brother um um rev will william barber um um
01:54:01 is helping us and so many others to come out on October 13th. We want to blow the doors off. And so that rule part, and here's the last part. I would say this too, Roland. We have nearly one million black voters, registered voters right now in the rural parts of Georgia. One million. You cannot leave not one vote on the table.
01:54:28 And so we can't disregard them black rural voters. here in Georgia or anywhere else in the South. Yep, indeed. Zachary, you heard what the Hallie had to say, I mean, what does that say a woman, a six-generation farmer having to shut it down because of Donald Trump's policies. I would hope that that is going to resonate
01:54:50 with these broke white voters here in Arkansas to realize that Trump is about bankrupting you. Roland, I would pray so, but I also know that it's probably unlikely to resonate. Like, let's keep it real. We have seen the white community decimated
01:55:12 by the policy of the Trump administration and you know what? Let me stop saying that. Because Donald Trump ain't running for shit after it's over. Donald Trump is over. His career is over. His reign of terror,
01:55:25 even though we have two more years to live through it, it's really over. This man is done. It's time to put the blame where the blame belongs and it's on the Democratic Party. I'm trying to contain my language and be the professional that I am.
01:55:37 It's on the Republican Party. And the Republican Party has decimated white America just like it's decimated black America. They're paying the same record high prices for gas that we're paying for. They are sitting down having lettuce diarrhea in the same way that we are sitting down and having lettuce diarrhea.
01:55:53 They are suffering just the same way that we are suffering. The difference is that so many of them are brainwashed and they're unable to undo the conditioning that they have been subjected to by the whole entire party in this movement. I am thankful that you had this lady on. I hope that she realizes what she has to do, as does every other Democratic candidate
01:56:14 trying to reach out and grab the attention of rural voters. And they need to go where the voters are. When you talk about black rural voters, they need to be in the church. When you're talking about black rural voters, they need to be right here doing and engaging on things like Roland unfiltered and being active in the social media spheres
01:56:30 where our black rural voters live. It's called Facebook. That's where they are. They're on the Facebook. And then you'd be putting the investment into black newspapers as well, because the ones that are free, like a place like Atlanta, I'm from rural Mississippi.
01:56:43 I grew up in a trailer on a dirt road that my family still lives on today, that exact same dirt road. These politicians have to make the investment and get out there and appeal to these voters in ways that are gonna reach them and talk about the issues and not make false promises, but the issues that affect them every,
01:57:00 every single day. Affordability, affordability, affordability. And again, that's going to hopefully reach these black rural voters that this lady talked about. But it should also reach those white voters as well. Because again, farmers in America are hurting and they should clearly be able to see that Republicans are taking American money, giving that shit to people, Argentina, giving us fake beef, horse meat, while our American farmers are going broke. Go on broke Go on bankrupt. Scottie,
01:57:30 and that's what it's got and Scott and Scottie, that's why I make them I've been saying this that what we can ill afford is waiting for a candidate
01:57:39 to show up, waiting for a party to show up. I just fundamentally believe that our people should be organizing and mobilizing ourselves. Again, my book Blackford, I literally say that in the book.
01:57:52 We cannot afford to wait for them to come in. This is why I'm saying pull our resources that we should be able to say, okay, we're going to fund our own grassroots groups that are going to go door to door, that are going to be organized and mobilizing what Gary Chambers is doing in Louisiana with those citizenship training classes. We got to have more of that. I'm just not, and again, I know what somebody. Canadian women are looking for more, more into themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce
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01:58:48 A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil. So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to, tootateans to Montegro, so. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter.
01:59:20 Now, people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all. You got to give Bruce and the guy's credit. They're Republicans. They don't give a shit of money. It's now. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil, and what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets to solve the climate crisis. Listen on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. Get Worse with Kyle Prue is not one of those podcasts. So if you're interested in getting thinner, going to therapy, starting peptide, setting boundaries, taking supplements, making your better, getting closure, then I would humbly recommend other podcasts.
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02:02:02 The WNBA playoffs are about to begin. The talent is insane and the personalities are giving main character energy. And of course, the fans love it. But 30 years ago, when the league first started, it was a different story. I remember sitting with a couple of male writers all whining about, oh, what are they going to do if they break a nail? No one's going to show up. But from the very beginning, there were two. teams that captured everyone's attention. The Comets were the real deal. I mean, come on.
02:02:30 The Liberty never gave up. They never stopped fighting. I knew that rivalry was going to be amazing from the beginning. I'm Kerry Champion, and this is biggest rivalries of all time, season two. The New York Liberty versus the Houston Comets, the very first rivalry of the WNBA. They picked us to finish last, and they picked them to finish first. That's all you need to know. I remember looking around thinking, this is going to.
02:02:55 to change things. Basketball was going to have this fundamental impact on the way people viewed women athletes. Listen to biggest rivalries of all time on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win. They're thinking. They're saying, wait a minute, but if we do all of that and that candidate, Won't even take the time to come show up. Then why are we going to vote for them? Because what I understand is somebody is going to win.
02:03:37 Somebody is going to win. And see, this is what I believe. I believe that if I'm out there and I organize and I mobilize and I've touched 500, 1,000, 2,000 people and let's say that Democratic candidate wins, I'm going to walk in there and say, you won by extimer votes. I mobilize extra member people. That's how you got elected. going to meet with me. You're going to talk
02:04:00 to me. That's the kind of intensity that I need to see. So my whole deal is, us mobilizing and organizing is about us. That's why I'm saying vote black, not blue, not red. You vote black, which means that you're determining of the folk
02:04:16 running. Who am I more likely to be able to get something from? I agree 100% with you. We have to really, really organize. I just put out a book, currently August 18th, all power back to the people, how ordinary citizens create change. Within my book, I talk about grassroots organizing.
02:04:36 I break down all different positions of politics to a digestible manner. So we don't feel like they're talking over our head when we talk about politics, but also connecting the dots between our reality and our politics. People plus power. People plus policy equals power. And we're at the point where we have to get back power, but we have the number of people. we have to understand and connect with the policies. Right now, the America is getting so bad that it's finally making people wake up
02:05:03 to understand that the policies affect them directly, that has hurt them directly, and they cannot continue to vote in favor of racism over policies that actually would help them. Policies who are they like to deem socialist will actually help them financially, and you have better candidates, and you're seeing that across the country would allow the debates we just had this past week that the Republican Party has 10,000, terrible candidates. They have candidates who don't know anything about politics. They don't have voter education. We have to emphasize a voter education in this moment so that people realize that it is about the policies. It's not about the politics. It's not about the red or the blue.
02:05:42 It's about the policies and the people that can bring resources back to your community to help you and to bring better life conveniences to yourself. We have to grassroots, organize, we have to get to the doors. We have to really understand that. that this connects our lives. There's not a moment where you can take your ball and go home. You have to be involved. I was just featured in an AJC article this week
02:06:04 and it disturbed me to see that only 49% of black men in the state of Georgia voted in the past election. I didn't know that was a number. So we have to get that number up to 70, 75% because too many of us are sitting on the sidelines. And whether you sit on the sidelines or not, these policies are affecting your life.
02:06:21 You're seeing at the gas pumps. You're seeing at the grocery stores. You're seeing through health care. you're seeing through education, you're seeing through the cost of early child care. So we have to really emphasize policies that benefit our people and get behind the candidates. You don't have to fall in love with the candidate. This is not a love story. This is someone who can put you in a position to get better convenience for your life.
02:06:44 And you can tell that the other side does not what was best for you. So at some point, we have to become the ones. And I would love for your audience, check out my book, All Power, Back to the People, How Ordinary Citizens Create Change, available on smarttrouble.com. All right, Scotty, Zachary, and Derek, I certainly appreciate y'all being on today's show. Thanks a bunch. Folks, I told you yesterday we're going to end the show with this. Yesterday would have been Reverend Jesse Jackson Sr.'s 85th birthday.
02:07:17 And so we, of course, paid tribute to him yesterday. I'm going to close the show out with the speech that he gave in 2019, 2018. at the National Association of Black Journalist Convention in Detroit. And Reverend Jackson understood the power of media and the importance of black journalists when it came to telling the right story. And so we're going to play for that. But let me do this here, y'all. There's just some housekeeping stuff before we actually play that.
02:07:44 The clothes to show out. First of all, if you are watching on YouTube, you'll hit the like button. We should be easily over a thousand likes and y'all go and hit the like button. As I said, I'm here in Little Rock, Arkansas. Rock, Arkansas for the Black Merritt Association of Arkansas. And I'm going to be given their keynote speech at this gala. And so that'll be happening, of course, a little bit later. We'll be live with the Black Sun Network.
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02:10:02 We certainly appreciate it. Now, of course, we always end the show showing you all of our donors. We'll do that after Reverend Jackson's speech. So, folks, that's it for me from Little Rock. I'll see you a little bit later. And so now let's hear again, 2018, Ripon Jesse Jackson, Senior, speaking at the National Association of Black Journalist National Convention in Detroit. Let me express my sense of thanks and delight to NNBJ and NBJ for enduring and building keeping the light of our hope alive down through these years for a chance to share with you on this occasion of this critical hour in history of our nation. It's a state of emergency, really.
02:10:52 It's not just racist. It's pathological and dangerous. It is not over. And the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. No Word in the world. You were the keepers of the Word. It's been a long journey for me since 1960. We sat down with seven classmates.
02:11:23 We were jail. trying to use a public library, facing the barbarism of legal segregation. I called England and locked up trying to use a public library. My father sat behind Nazi, POWs on the American military bases at that time. The day that the king gave a speech in Washington, the context of the dream was,
02:11:58 from Texas to Florida to Maryland, we couldn't use a single public toilet. We couldn't buy ice cream with Howard Johnson. We couldn't rent a hotel room with holiday. day in. We could not vote. We were not citizens. Against those odds, we chose not to surrender, not to adjust, the military resent, but to resist and fight back. I find join me with you tonight. My very first job was something Baltimore, African American newspapers, and Pittsburgh Journal and Guide, reading as Doc Young every weekend, Sam Lacey, called Rowan. We're at the
02:12:58 Chicago only to sell jets and ebony. We could not get them in the colors of the stores in the ghetto at that time. I want to thank the journalists who told our stories in the darkness. In black obituaries and weddings, never quite made it to the paper. Frederick Douglass and Ethel Paine, Les Pain, Ais and Some More. Max Robertson. Robertson, Bill Raspard, Dorothy Gilliam, Dwayne Wickham, Brun and Jarrett. These men and women have been light and darkness down through these years.
02:13:55 So in between Frederick Douglass and Don Lemon, they were not giving the iconic interview with LeBron James. The media has always had a kind of threatening power to our society. More threatening than political power. It's the naples that is. I think about George Curry, economic power. is not of appraisal power the right to determine the worth
02:14:29 of somebody else their value so when Jack Robinson gets too playing he is quote unquote too angry the manager the praises perception
02:14:46 or in the banks too soft to be a hitting coach six under home runs later really give you a favorite person tonight a a $50,000 on a diamond ring you were overjoyed, you had given this great gift,
02:15:06 and the person in receiving it was of such. And in the midst of it, some of them would say, you should get that ring and shoot it, because you may lose it. Someone may steal it. You take the ring down town, and someone say, this ring is worse. I see a flaw. Israel, $25,000.
02:15:33 No matter how much we protest would be ensured that they're praised value. Or someone may say, This ring is worth 100,000 that you get it from. Power now of the appraiser. Five seasons, in the next year or 40 years since we've been here, these athletes have had some awesome role as I listen to. Trump attacked LeBron James and Don Lemon today. Whether David was in the Bible,
02:16:06 or Sampson fighting Elias. When nobody was here was prayer, it was Jack Johnson. When he fought there were race riots. Jack Johnson. Jesse Owens ran the race, 1936, the Olympic race in Berlin. The white paper said that it was a terrible thing that Hitler did not speak to him. He got up and walked away. I asked just on one time, Roland, why? But then you get upset. I came home and Roosevelt wouldn't shake my hand either. That's left of the Afro-American to discuss, not daily paper. So I'd imagine what it meant when Julius defeated Max Mellon. been called irreconceivable ugly name by the major datae's on Jack Robinson. The reason all athletes make this multiple millions of dollars today. Not considering the better than Oscar Robson or better than Bill Russell or Campanella. But Kurt Flood sacrificed his career in life in Missouri using the 13th Amendment.
02:17:33 or Wilma Rudolph, the William sisters, a tiger was Althea Gibson. Strange ways to testify people have been caught up to these achievers how these minorities with majority visions took us to higher heights. Most of you tonight
02:18:02 cannot go four generations back into your family. Certainly five. The first book of Matthew, David to Jesus is a thousand years for the one for the two generations we can only get the five who are we that with our skin complexions we are colored by rape not by biology still searching in the wilderness monarchy with majority visions where is bigger than your papers your editors cannot approve cannot appreciate the value of Moses was a minority with a majority vision Joseph was a monarch of the majority division.
02:19:17 Mandela, monarch of the majority division. Not the king of monarch, a majority division. A vision bigger than our circumstance. Why are these athletes so superior in football and basketball and baseball and track? Don't use a biological argument. Why are we superior? Whenever the playing field is even and the rules are public and the goals are clear, the referee is fair and the school is transparent.
02:20:04 If on the football field we had to run 12 yards because we were born out of the water lock and whites had to run seven yards we had to inherit some yards we can make that either if we got on the base to run the distance between bases was relative to who was running but so long as the plan for the deepened rules public goes to the rivers without public rules are the clear only the appraiser has the power to determine the earth. We need you to be lights in dark places.
02:20:53 The principle's bigger than your job. If you have a job, you're in trouble. You need a mission. That's what's paying to the top. There's some more of the Raspberry. And missions. Who won't tell the story about the flag?
02:21:21 If one bows to the flag, it's exalting the flag. It's that I expect you'd honor your promise. If one bows to the cross, it's saying, honor your promise. You one steps on the flag, spits on the flag, which is constitutionally right. It's negative. To be punished for exaltation, reward of a desecration, is to eclipse the sun at high noon.
02:21:57 So we could not let the season go by without saying, why is it? Colin Capley, one of the top 10 best quarterbacks in the game, can't get a tryout? Is that somebody else's job at the paper? Because I'm in fashion, I'm in some... Who will tell the principal
02:22:21 story of they didn't shake my hand in Washington or Berlin? Who will tell the story that the players make all this money in every sport around the world because of acre of blood? It's a mission, not just a job. I was in South Korea last week
02:22:47 that brought the bones of soldiers home and they went through all of the procedures and started talking about Kim Jong-un and Trump and the like. And I could not help us think about it. There were some black bones in those boxes. Somebody had the right. Medgebras was in Korea,
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02:24:00 A decade ago, the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil. So we met with a lot of larger farmers, went from Bahia to Tokatines to Montegrozzo. And he brought a team of executives. They were going to help the country get in on a gold rush. Carbon and its derivatives are going to be really the next great commodity that the globe's going to trade. But back home in Iowa, trouble was brewing. If you live in Iowa, your land, your water, and your voice could all be at risk thanks to a man named Bruce Rastetter. Now people are questioning if his climate solutions have anything to do with climate at all.
02:24:37 You got to give Bruce the guy's credit. They're Republican kids. They don't give a shit about it. It's now. On this season of drilled, Carbon Cowboys, the story of how the ethanol kingpin of Iowa became the king of corn in Brazil. And what it tells us about the limits of technology and markets. to solve the climate crisis. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
02:25:00 There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. Get Worse with Kyle Pruh is not one of those podcasts. So if you're interested in getting thinner, going to therapy, starting peptide, setting boundaries, taking supplements, making your better, getting closure, then I would humbly recommend other podcasts. But if you're interested in blackmail, love bombing, cloning yourself, or getting revenge, then we've got a little something, something for a little something for a lot. dastardly individual like you.
02:25:26 Take a listen to some of the incredible advice we've given so far. Fake a back injury. Get the spray tan, up your alcohol consumption. Only women should be allowed to have guns. Kill them. Kill them. Kill them for the gun.
02:25:38 Listen, it's already over. I'm all about lying if it's something that really happened. The next time a bear is running at you, you just calmly stop what you're doing, you look the bear in the eye, and you say this isn't you. Do not preserve relationships. You don't need them.
02:25:53 You only need one thing, and that's the Get Worse podcast. Listen to Get Worse with Kyle Pru on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Whether you're stepping up to the starting line of a marathon or just trying to take the first step toward a big, scary goal, the conversation in your head is usually the same. Do I have what it takes? I'm Emily Abadi, and on Hurtle with Emily Abadi, we dive into the grit, vulnerability, and mindset that fuels our greatest comebacks. I talk to elite athletes, Olympic champions, industry change makers, and everyday runners about how they face self-doubt, redefine success, and keep moving forward when life gets heavy. I'd just love to say, I never know who's watching. So you want to make sure you, you through and through, and you just stay true to who you are.
02:26:39 Yeah, your path might change because different things come on your path to disrupt it, but it's just putting you on a new path, and the skills you have to have faith at the skills that you've learned and developed over time are going to continue to bring you success. When the world is burning and crashing around you, will you still say fight for your dream? Will you still say it's possible? Will you still believe you're a good person? Can you still see the brighter side of tomorrow? It's motivation, real talk, and practical wisdom for life on and off the run. Listen to Hurtle with Emily Abadi on the IHeart Radio app,
02:27:09 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The WNBA playoffs are about to begin. The talent is insane and the personalities are giving me. character energy. And of course, the fans love it. But 30 years ago, when the league first started, it was a different story. I remember sitting with a couple of male writers all whining about, oh, what are they going to do if they break a nail? And no one's going to show up. But from the very beginning, there were two teams that captured everyone's attention. The comments were to real deal. I mean, come on. The Liberty never gave up. They never stopped fighting.
02:27:44 I knew that rivalry was going to be amazing from the beginning. I'm Kerry Champion. I'm, and this is biggest rivalries of all time season two. The New York Liberty versus the Houston Commons, the very first rivalry of the WNBA. They picked us to finish last, and they picked them to finish first. That's all you need to know. I remember looking around thinking,
02:28:05 this is going to change things. Basketball was going to have this fundamental impact on the way people viewed women athletes. Listen to biggest rivalries of all time on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your... podcast. Is there bad blood between you in the comments as you guys meet again in the championship? Oh, we're coming back to win.
02:28:33 But Medicare was in that context. It says in trivial talk, we came on different boats with the same boat now. No, we came on very different boats. We're not immigrants. They came looking for a better way of life, Roberts. refugees came in desperation We came in slave Bought and sold Every time I see those children at the border My heart goes out for the babies in cages We were in the cages first
02:29:14 As a matter of law and policy and commerce Our babies were put in cages and then sold 246 years of slavery Jim Crow was more violent than slavery When we were enslaved, we were seen as an asset. We were free against the threat. And to block our boat, there were eight blacks congressmen in South Carolina alone. They lynched 5,000 blacks in 90 years without one conviction.
02:30:10 ISIS. Most men just took place after church on Sunday. In the name of God, Emmettiel was the last, was the caboose on that train. We do not have a federal law against lynching tonight. We never passed a federal anti-linching bill. And, we never pass the federal anti-linching bill. So when Judge Hapel was in his sleep, and Bob R. Wurk said, thought it was in his sleep,
02:30:48 was killed in his sleep, inspired by the police officers. That was a lynching. That's a federal crime. Police shoot-on-armed people. Those are lynchings. That's not how the editors see that, unless somebody's delight in dark places. But so we are amazing. Our weapons have been the moral rightness of our cause.
02:31:22 Rosa Parks had no money, no gone. She was mostly right. Coalition's always some, some Ralph McGill, some John Brown, coalitions, the marching feet. We were never able to make lynching of federal. crime. Don't be discouraged. We're in the belly of the whale. One half of all human beings are Asian, on half of them are China. They can elect in presidents. We can. We can be one. The power of France. It can make and break presidents. We can be one. European Union, we have more power than it. We can
02:32:17 make and break presidents. We can be one. Four million blacks in the South today are unregistered. Two and a half million richest last time who did not vote. The pain of that suffering has been internalized and turned into energy. I want to thank God for the role you play and the lane you run. You're not just workers at the paper you are on a mission. I gave my values watching black journalists, some either be well. There's this graceful scene, babies at the borders.
02:33:18 And I watched the morning shows and even black guests on shows Travada makes their heart, make their heart, do that never since a single one say a damn thing about us on the border and the cages do. As a matter of law, we are a post-genocide, Native Americans.
02:33:39 Post-slavery, post-genocidal society, to be on TV as a piece of color and cover and not to be there with courage and conviction is a distraction. On a mission, lose the mission. It was so small
02:34:04 It can't make it to a church I was in Cleveland Columbus about a month ago And at the territorial board meeting There were seven journalists in the meeting Not one black journalist in Columbus, Ohio There was one black outside of the window At the desk right in people looking at me
02:34:29 So I said to the editor The publisher came and said I said, why don't you have one black journalist? We can't find in it. The home of Ohio State, football factory, we can't find in it. Columbus, Ohio, up north, y'all. Went to Cleveland. Mr. Cleveland playing dealer.
02:35:02 Journalists, not one black writer in the media in Cleveland. One thing worse than being in slavery is to adjust to it. Water does not drown. You drown when you stop kicking. The door is closed. That's not bad. It's bad if there are no footpress that you try to kick it down. It's just there.
02:35:50 You mean it's closed and no footprints, no fingerprints? You can drown in shallow water. There's a disgraceful image tonight. We'll sit again tomorrow. They count 400 babies. And it is a moral disgrace of our time. And yet we got to go to the Savannah River, got to go to New Orleans, got to go to Charleston, look at papers and boxes, sold on the auction block, not sold. If there have been an argument, look at our skin complexions, speak of deadbeat dads, we need you tonight.
02:36:48 There's a countdown between now and November the 6th. We can stop this long dark night. I know it's dark. We can stop this. If we're all on a mission, if we're all freedom of us, we can stop this. We have the numbers to stop this. We won the race in Virginia this year and a black lieutenant governor. We can fight this. Everybody's not surrendering. We won the race in New Jersey.
02:37:19 We got a black lieutenant government. We can fight this. Being jealous, won against ours in Maryland could become governor. We can fight this. It's like a salmon swimming upstream. States of Wanderersa in Georgia We can win Georgia We can fight this
02:37:36 Esper running for the Senate in Mississippi We can fight If we do not bow and do not surrender we can win this But not just storytellers Who write for some
02:37:52 editor's foolishness Every woman here is somehow to bewells You're writing to free slaves You were writing the free ex-slaves. Lastly, a few days ago, I was diagnosed with Parkinson's, a kind of degenerative disease for which they say there's no cure. That's supposed to be a sign of so down, because it's intimidating. I get into grip with life and death in jail cells a long time ago.
02:38:44 For all of my life, I know we have power. It excites me. economic power, laborers to bring in the corporation down way of power. I was blessed to be in jail power. In my lifetime, blessed to work under Royal Wilkins, with Jim Farmer, Father Dr. King, I've been blessed. Don't let them tell you because you're going to die one day don't work. That's going to have men to have.
02:39:31 Use the rest of your days. But somebody to say, live in such a way that when you die, the funeral director will cry. Because you mattered. A lot of when you wrote, the story you told, the interpretation you gave to the story. There's nothing much more dangerous than a chocolate white person, you know, who's just kind of chocolate-colored white minds are dangerous. Because they're deceptive. I will say it one more time.
02:40:09 There's nothing more dangerous than a chocolate white person whose mind has brought into the system. Which is limited by with the master sees. We're called be transformers. We must be maladjust. We are that one that, here you come again,
02:40:36 here's you come again with that stuff. We ought to be, I would rather be, as I talk to some football players who are going to get on the knees and kneel this year. I would rather be a cab driver
02:40:50 working on percentage It's free than to be a million dollar slave. You mean, you've got a million dollars in the man, if you buy them or fire you, you say, no, no, that's a master. And then all of your master, your muscle starts shrippling up. It's better to be a free cab driver working on business to be a million dollar slave. Dignity is non-negotiable.
02:41:24 Lost his job, but not his sense. Not his mind, not his mission, not his motivation, not his dignity. didn't get there must be non-negotiable. The doctor said, well, Jesse, you got Parkinson. I said, well, Parkinson's in trouble. Whether I'm in Haiti or Chicago, or South Korea, a South Chicago, or South that we're going to fight this fight. Because my God, that's a healer.
02:42:01 You feel like you treat at-risk babies. Got Parkinson you at risk. I was born at risk. Born in a teenage mother at risk. Never saw my dad is shaved at risk. Never had my dad's name at risk. Just as actually my third name, I'm adopted. At risk.
02:42:36 They had no health insurance, couldn't want it, wasn't one in the hospital, born at home. My white doctor stopped by the house. At risk. Born at risk. Born at risk. Jesus wasn't at risk, bought a baby. Born under death warrant. Had to go to Egypt as an immigrant.
02:42:56 Again, asylum became a refugee. At risk. Turn your risk into power. And don't surrender. and my travels across these years the reason I'm so excited night about this season because we're going to win in November, you know. We're going to win because we're going to fight.
02:43:24 We're going every high school seniors eligible to register and vote. Every high school in your district must be registered to vote. But I have that weapon 50 years ago. Don't you know that when we win and lose? They say, well, go beat Bush Bush be good. That's fake news. You got the 534 votes.
02:43:53 It would not count the Val counted 27,000 votes. The interview protested that in your articles. They didn't count the Val counted vote. That's why Bush was the winner. That's fake news. You mean, Ken to be Nixon by 113,000 votes? And Nixon would be 100,000? And Hillary went by $3 million. And Trump was the winner.
02:44:20 hell, let's fake news. If you don't know why new people leave it, but it's fake news in the house. You can't win by three million in the democracy and be the loser. God has blessed me across the years to be with you tonight. My grandson, Jesse the Thursdays here with me tonight. Take care, pops. I'll leave you with this tonight if my people will call by my name. Arm of themselves and pray and seek my face and turn them in wicked ways.
02:45:15 They'll hear from heaven. God will heal their land. It's healing time. Don't put a job over your mission. Don't put your dignity up for sale. In these 57 years since I first went to jail, in 77 years of living, I've seen quite a few things in my lifetime.
02:45:39 To come from Greenville, to be advising presidents, it's quite a journey. I was in South Africa, the day that they announced to Mandela Walker, and I jell and shook his hand in Cape Town. I've seen a lot. I worked with Dr. King. Talked to him in his last breath.
02:45:58 I've seen a lot. With Ron Dillams, I met with Castro. It was not fashionable. I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot. I've seen the Great Wall of China. I've seen a school from the balcony in Memphis with Dr. King Lee bleeding. 40 years later, the balcony at the White House,
02:46:29 head of state. the balcony in Memphis, the back in the White House, 40 years in the wilderness, I've seen the light of my time. What I haven't seen, I'm not going to give up. I have not seen the righteous forsaken. But let's see big for bread. God bless you and thank you. There are thousands of podcasts that can tell you how to better yourself. Get Worse with Kyle Brew is not one of those podcasts.
02:52:42 So if you're interested in getting thinner, going to therapy, starting peptide, setting boundaries, taking supplements, making your better getting closure, then I would humbly recommend other podcasts. If you're interested in blackmail, love bomb, and cloning yourself or getting revenge, then we've got a little something, something for a dastardly individual like you. Listen to Get Worse with Kyle Prue on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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02:53:45 On Big Lives, we take a single cultural icon. People like Jane Fonda, George Michael, Little Richard. And we pull apart the story behind the image. Discovering forgotten interviews that change exactly how we see these giants of our culture. We're here for the messy, the brilliant, the human version of our heroes. I'm Emmanuel Jochi. I'm Kai Wright. And this is Big Lives.
02:54:11 Listen to Big Lives on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. The miles change how you move, but more importantly, they change how you show up for your life. I'm Emily Abadi. On The Hurtle with Emily Abadi podcast, I sit down with elite athletes, record holders, coaches, and everyday runners to unpack the mindset behind pushing through when things get tough. Because the discipline, grace, and grit you build out there on the pavement, that's what helps you show up as your best self everywhere else. I'd just love to say, I never know who's watching. So you want to make sure you, you through and through, and you just stay true to who. who you are. Listen to Hurtle with Emily Abadi on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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