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Secret Mum Club with Sophiena - The Tooshie Toothbrush
Episode Date: May 6, 2025Soph's house is full of tooth talk as Dottie hits her ‘gappy era’, but it’s a tiny toothbrush causing chaos at the school gates. One mum shares the trials of bathtime with a toddler, while anoth...er listener delivers a top-tier masterclass on how to truly nail a swear word. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Tell me about your week, Tell me about your week. I'm not gonna lie. It's been a lot.
Yeah. I don't think you're ready. I feel like I'm just, my heart is broken. I feel tormented
and I feel utterly lost. What are we talking about here? Kobe is...
Oh, why not?
He wasn't gonna go.
Then he changed his mind.
He wasn't gonna go?
No, literally said on the Wednesday,
mom, I really don't wanna go, the Wednesday before.
I really don't wanna go on,
he's gone away on a residential.
Sorry.
He's gone away on a school trip, but it's for four days.
No, sorry, four nights, five days.
And he said on the Wednesday, we've been back and forth, back and forth.
Obviously when the trip first came out,
Colby said, I don't want to go.
So we were kind of expecting him to say,
no, he doesn't want to go.
Then a space came up a few weeks later
to which we asked Colby if he'd like to go.
Again, he said no.
So we were like, okay then, not to worry.
Following on another few weeks, I think it was the return of, was it before? No, it must've been just
before we broke up for the Easter holidays. It must've been a week before we broke up
for the Easter holidays. Another space came available and they asked us and Colby said,
yes. So we were like, let's do this. Like my heart was just like thumping out of my chest.
It's like, it's going to be fine.
It's going to be okay.
So we've obviously had a couple of weeks
to prepare and get ready, which I obviously didn't,
I didn't prepare or get ready.
And then the Wednesday before they were due to go,
Colby said, mom, do you know what?
I really don't want to go.
So I said, that's absolutely fine.
Let's sleep on it.
Cause it was as he come home from school,
I said, let's sleep on it
and we'll see how you feel in the morning. So we wake up in the morning,
he was like, no, I really want to tell the office that I don't want to go on the trip. I was like,
okay, that's fine. Let's go in and tell them. So we went in on Thursday morning, said to them,
Colby doesn't want to go on the trip. And she was like, that's fine. We'll have a chat with him
today and see how he feels. So Thursday, he had a chat with them and he was like, oh, I just don't
know. I don't know. So I said, we've got to let them know Friday as to what you'd like to
do because we can give the opportunity to somebody else because the position had already
the, the place had already been paid for. I said to the school, I'm not worried about,
you know, the money being refunded back because I know the trip's been completely funded,
but obviously I just, I don't know if there's a child that can fill that gap for you.
Yeah.
So that they don't miss out on the trip.
So I said to Colby, we need to let them know by Friday,
what you want to do.
Because then if they do want to put a child in,
they've got the weekend to get ready.
So he said on Friday, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to go.
So I was like, right, okay then.
So we only had in the midst of that weekend,
the weekend
before was wild. We had the last football game of the season for Colby and it was an
absolute belter of a game. They won. It was great. Like it was just wonderful. And then
we went on to Dottie had a sleepover at her friend's house. Right. We're gonna, we're
gonna, when I tell you, there is so much that I've got to tell you that's house. Right. We're going to huge news. We're going to, when I tell
you there is so much that I've got to tell you that's happened. She is, yep. She had
a first leap over. She's done her first show ice skating show. So it was like the weekend
was already jam packed. Colby had a football game to go down and watch at the stadium.
Like it was Ramo'd. We had to try and get in, get in a suitcase because the one I had
was too small. Get him some shorts that I didn't mind getting a little bit ruined out because he didn't want to
wear his other clothes. Some socks, wellies, you know, the whole shebang. And then yes,
sent him off on Monday on his way. But I just can't, and I know I hope you can understand where I'm coming from is that
I don't, I don't, I think I maybe expected in my head for them to maybe have like a call
like a, or a letter home from family, you know, a text, anything. So you get pictures
updated in like the communal, like it's a security folder that is provided by the school.
So there is a link. You can see photos of them, but I honestly feel like it's a security folder that is provided by the school. So there is a link. You can see
photos of them, but I honestly feel like it's the most torture. I haven't slept. I didn't
sleep for all. I didn't sleep on the Saturday because Dottie was at her sleep over the Sunday
night. I was so fucking stressed out of my asshole because Colby was going on the Monday.
I haven't slept Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. And then he's coming back on. It'll
be back on Friday.
Obviously this is-
So he'll be back by the time we record this.
We're currently, yeah, by the time you listen to this.
But at the moment, we're three days deep?
Yeah, we're three days deep.
So by the time you listen to this, he'll be home.
But I am, I'm shattered.
I mean, you not talking to him must be so strange
because you've never, he's never even-
I can't, I can't even-
He's never even spent the night away.
Well, he spent two nights away,
one with my sister, one with my brother.
So you could talk to him.
I can literally talk to him at any point.
Whenever you want.
It feels so-
And now you can't contact him.
It's like he's a big brother.
How are we all coping?
Like some of the mums have been texting,
like just to say- Yeah, you're messaging other mums.
Yeah, how are you doing?
Bless my friend Jen.
Every morning I wake up to a text message from her
and she's like, three more sleeps to go. And then today she was like, two more sleeps to go. I honestly
feel like I've lost my right arm. And then I keep saying like, oh, should we go and wake
Colby up? And then I'm like, no, no. And then because we get a schedule of like what they're
doing, I'm like, oh, I keep looking at my watch. Oh, he's having breakfast. He's on
activity number three of the day. Oh, he's having a nice time. What does he look like in the
pictures? I have obviously I have seen some pictures. There was one picture that I didn't.
When I first looked at it, I thought he was hysterically laughing because his eyes are
really red and full of water. And he's laughing. and then I tormented myself with going, oh my
God, why have he's hysterically crying and we're just taking pictures of it because I'm
crazy now. I'm to the point where I'm crazy. He's wearing pants that aren't his as in trousers.
They're not his trousers. So he arrived in a twopiece at the trip. The evening that he arrived, he's in another pair of trousers and trainers.
And I'm thinking, I've put trousers in his suitcase.
I don't know why he's wearing somebody else's.
Day two rocks around.
He's in the same trousers.
They're not your trousers.
I've had to phone the school office and say, look, is there any way of finding out?
I bought Colby some shorts and a pair of trousers to go in the suitcase. Do they not fit? Do you
need me to bring you more clothes? Because we're, I don't know if he's going to put
them on day three and he's wearing the same. I'm still waiting for the phone to-
She'll come back and everything will still be packed in his little sandwich bags, each
outfit. You don't have to do any washing though.
I was so stressed about how he was going to cope.
Like I sandwich bagged every outfit, shorts, t-shirts, socks, pants, one sandwich bag.
There was four sandwich bags.
I put him two towels in, so he's got a big towel and a little towel.
Casey wants to have a day towel that he can take out with him, like flannels.
I went through the wash bag.
When I tell you I went through the wash bag, I was like, this is your shampoo.
This is your body wash.
This is your toothbrush, toothpaste, sun cream,
just a little, just a little sun cream.
There's sun cream everywhere.
I don't.
At least he's put it on.
I know, I know.
And I phoned the school and I said, look,
and then they said, oh, from what we can gather,
Colby said there's no trousers in his suitcase.
And you know, when you're like,
I went through a whole different of motions. I was like, this is typical Colby. When you say to him,
go upstairs and look through the second drawer and you just join, he does this. Can't find anything.
And then I go upstairs and he goes, Oh, I didn't even see it there. It's on the top of the drawer.
I didn't. I didn't. Okay. And then I was like, why is no one helping him? Why is no one helping him
go through his bag,
check his bag? Because there's trousers in there. I literally went through.
I know I put trousers in there.
I went through the whole bag, the whole bag with him. And like how to, obviously he washes himself
at home, but shampoo and stuff because he doesn't like the shampoo in his eyes. I said to him,
just wash it. How mommy washes it? So you wash it in your hair and then you reach your hair, rinse your hair back. I was talking to him and I said the easiest way to
remember what one is for your head and what one is for your body is because this one says head
and shoulders. So got to dinner time and he must have been playing on his mind bless his heart
because he was like, so what do I do
then? Do I rub it on my head and my shoulders? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you
know when you're just like, and then I was like, sorry, Colby, I wasn't listening. What
are we talking about? He was like, you know, the head and shoulders, is it for your head
and shoulders?
Oh, he's taking it really literally.
And I was like, it's a really good point to put to the brand. Yeah. For your head and your shoulders.
I think it's cool because it's meant to stop you getting dandruff on your shoulders, head and shoulders.
It's actually. I think so.
Oh, well, that makes perfect sense.
You know, when you're just, I was so lost in it, but I've I've cried, I've laughed, I've not very much.
Do you know what, though, I think it'll be so good for him because these are the kind of things that really like, they make you grow so much and he'll always remember it.
I think it'd be a really good experience.
But I need to know where the mum's at.
Where are we at?
What are we doing?
Why they're not sleeping?
I'm checking every hour of every-
How'd you get through the week?
I'm not surviving, if I'm honest with you, I'm not.
And then by the time my alarm goes off,
I'm led there and the alarm goes off.
I'm already awake.
You don't even need to tell me.
Oh God. Oh, so no, I am just counting. I feel like I'm led there and the alarm goes off. I'm already awake. You don't even need to tell me. Oh, I'm just counting. I feel like I'm counting down the days. I'm counting down the day. You're over halfway. You're over halfway. Over halfway. I think so. Yeah,
we got, we get to pick them up a little bit early on Tuesday. Sorry, Friday, because they're
so tired. So they, we pick them up at quarter past two. And they have a great sleep when
he gets home. But I'm concerned with the weather. We're having a flipping heat wave.
If anything, it's too hot.
It's 26 degrees today and then meant to be 29.
Highs of 29 tomorrow.
Oh my life.
Honestly.
But no, they all look like they're having the best time.
I bet they are.
And it's really lovely to see them.
Yeah.
Where, because sometimes I do think, right, it's when they're with us, I wonder if they're
maybe like a little bit reserved, a little bit more restricted. I hope they're not like in school, they're
just like, I was, but I don't, I don't know that they are, but it just feels like they're
able to just play with their friends and it's just really free, you know, really free of
them to just be.
I love seeing their interactions when like they're not, or they don't think you're really
watching them and they're just with like people their own age.
Like when Joseph's with boys his own age,
he was with his nephew and his friend the other day
and they're four and Joseph's three.
And they were building some like marble run,
this Lego thing.
And it was just breaking my heart.
Cause like Joseph's trying to get involved,
but they don't need his help
cause they're bigger boys and they can do it.
But he's really trying to offer them.
And he's like, do you need this piece?
It's really cool.
And they're like, I know it just makes me cry. And they're like, I know, it just makes me cry.
And I'm like, I can't bear to think of you like at nursery
and stuff when you're doing stuff like that.
And people just like, I mean, obviously it's gonna happen.
Like it's natural.
You're gonna get ignored, you're gonna get whatever.
Some people aren't gonna be friends with you,
but I'm just like, oh my.
Don't leave him out.
My heart, please just acknowledge him
when he offers you a Lego piece, it's too sad. It's too sad isn't it? It's so so sad. But it'll be so good for him I think.
But also something else that I find funny is like when they're talking to their friends and they're
like I'll just go and ask my mom or like he's been doing it like with his cousins normally he says oh
if he's talking to my niece or my nephew he'll say say, oh, why don't you go and ask Auntie? But Dottie at the moment, she'll say, I asked my mum and she said no. Sometimes
you're like, they know, they know me. They know I'm Auntie. Like, you know, sometimes
when they're explaining and I think, oh, bless her heart. She's like, my mum said no to that,
I'm afraid. No, you're not allowed any sweets. But no, it's been, this has been a whole whirlwind
off of the back of an absolutely insane weekend.
What about Dottie? Where is she?
She went for a sleepover.
At a friend's house?
At a friend's house.
I thought we weren't allowing the sleepovers.
Do you know what, right? And I am in split, I am in a split mind about this. And it is
something, do you know what? This is her little, her friend from
ice skating. This isn't a friend from school. This is her friend from ice skating. And I,
I've really grown up a really lovely relationship with her mom. And she's really, really sweet.
Like I just, I just got so much admiration. The woman is phenomenal. Well, obviously I don't want
to go into, to her, to her life, but she, but she just amazes me with how she just copes
with everything.
She's just a fantastic woman.
The children are all so wonderful.
I thought, do you know what?
I feel like I have to bite the bullet and I feel like I've put a lot of trust into her.
She's very aware of my job.
She's very, very aware.
She never followed me before this. She said, it wasn't until I spoke to my friend that her daughter had
met a little friend and she said Dotty's name. And then the friend was like, Oh my gosh,
is her mom called Safina? And then she was like, Oh, and it wasn't till like a couple
of weeks after we'd kind of met at the ice skating that, um, dot's friend's mom. I don't want to say her name.
Should we say Sue? Sue? We'll say Sue. Till Sue said to me, um, oh my goodness. I, my friend
follows you and I've seen all your stuff. So it was really nice. And obviously she's very aware of,
I talk obviously on here and she listens to the podcast and social media. So it was really nice to have a conversation with her to just put my worries on the line
and it received so great. And yeah, we went to, they went to ice skating. She went with
Chris because I had to take Colby to town to get his shopping done. So she went off
to ice skating and then she just, she went after ice skating off to her friend's house.
Just those two. They had another little friend from ice skating as well.
So it's the three girls that went over to theirs
for the sleepover and she had the time of her life.
She did call me and we had a little face time,
but it's so hard I think because when,
cause she, this is the same little girl that Dottie had
for a sleepover if you remember me telling you.
She's already slept around your house.
Yes, yeah.
So I was like, oh, I better text her this and I better text her that and I will make sure that she's allowed
to eat this and make sure. But obviously Sue was so busy because she had three girls, they
were in the hot tub and she was like, Oh, I've been in the, they've been in the hot
tub, but I couldn't obviously go on my phone because I wanted to give them my undivided
attention and she's like, they've had movies. They went from McDonald's. I think they even
had, I think they even had a
sit-in McDonald's, you know, what a treat. What a treat. But she slept like a dream.
And honestly, that was, I don't know, it was a good set up just before we were saying goodbye
to Colby for the week. I cried, I cried and cried. And I think as well, it's because they're
such different children. Dottie is very, very, she still wants to be in the room with us and she's mum, mum, mum,
mum, every two minutes and she'll ask loads of questions and she's really vocal and she talks so
much. But Colby on the other hand is quite quiet. He quite likes his own space, even though he's
quite chatty, he does it on his own terms. He spends a lot of time in his bedroom. So the Saturday, I honestly, it was horrific. I was like this
house, we had the two boys.
Did it feel so quiet?
It was fucking silent. It was silent. And I was like, this is horrendous. I'm not coping.
I text Sue and I was like, I'm not coping. I miss her so much. This is horrendous. And
then Sunday, we had a wonderful day and she went to the rugby to watch her friend's brother's play and they were at the rugby and they had
a picnic there. She had the best time and then yeah, we come back and she had an ice
skating show. So the girls all come back and then we watched her and I think because I'd
missed her so much, I blubbed. I blubbed through the whole fucking show.
I think you would have anyway. It's just when they do something like for the first time and you're so proud of them.
I was literally like...
The camera's like this because I'm like...
You're doing it, okay!
I was literally, what a mess.
How did she do?
Was it good?
Oh, it's so, so incredible.
So incredible.
She just took it.
And I think where I hadn't sat with Sue, I feel like I need to emphasize on this, Sue,
because I didn't sit with her, we'd gone in together and obviously the girls are friends and we normally sit next to each other. I just couldn't get a seat near her.
So I sat a bit further down so I could see Dottie's face and she was like, and you can
see it just getting further and further and I was like, go on Dottie. So she could see.
Oh, cause she didn't think you would see me. And she was like, I thought you weren't there.
And it was, oh, but no, she done really,
they done really well.
So proud of her.
And there was a lot of people there and she just took it.
Just, and again, it blows my mind at just how fantastic
our babies are that they just throw themselves.
They just take these things in their stride.
They do take these things in their stride.
And then you're in the background having a breakdown.
Yeah, literally blubbering like a whale.
Sue, Sue looked over to me and she was like,
I was like, I'm it, I really got it.
Then Sunday we went.
We went and then Monday, yeah, obviously Colby, Sunday we had the ice getting then Monday
Colby went off and I just, I'm not, I'm not coping.
Well, good job you've got your little Mr. Renly baby.
I know and little Miss Dots tie me over. So that's, it's been a wild week for me. Yeah. And Dotsy's lost two teeth.
Oh. When I tell you it's big bits, big things are happening in the house. She lost two teeth.
Did she chuck them or did she keep them under her pillow?
No, no, we kept them. Two fairy took them. Yeah. Yeah. And 15 pound though.
I was going to say a fiver. 15 pounds. Two teeth.
It was a lot. It was a lot. I was like, oh wow, 10 pounds nowadays.
To be fair though, with all of her ice skating and everything,
she had her sleepover.
She just is just blowing my expectations
like completely out of the water.
So I think the tooth fairy done well.
And she was like, she is so proud of me
for bringing me 10 pounds.
I was like, she must be, she's a busy woman.
She's had to come back twice.
Maybe I said, maybe she's giving you double bubble in case you lose another one tomorrow.
Maybe she's giving you two lots of lives. They're just dropping like flies. They are.
We've got number two wobbly. So she's got two at the front gone and she's got two side by side.
She's getting into her gappy era. I know. Yeah. It's a lot. And it's a very, very cute. It's a very,
very cute stage, but it is one that takes some time to get used to. Yeah. I don't know if that
makes any sense. Because they suddenly look totally takes some time to get used to. Yeah. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Because they suddenly look totally different.
And their whole speech changes.
Yeah. She's like lispy now.
Yes. So weird.
It is, bless her heart.
And she's trying to not smile now.
Oh, she doesn't want to show it.
How long does it take for the other ones to come through?
They're already poking through. They are.
Yeah. Whereas Colby's took a really...
We had 18 months where he didn't grow a tooth.
Do you remember that? No way.
When Colby had that gap.
Colby had a gap in his tooth
because he smacked it out in the Ikea trolley.
Oh. Wasn't ready to come out.
Wasn't ready.
No.
And he just had one tooth.
He looked, bless his heart, like Nanny McPhee.
Just had this one big tooth for so long.
18 months it took to grow.
Wow.
Yeah.
To grow.
But when they're ready, they come free straight away.
Yeah. I think they were, I think they just push him out.
That's why they go wobbly.
Yeah.
But I'm intrigued to know what she's going to look like with her new big girl teeth.
Yeah.
Because it totally changes their face.
Changes this whole face.
Because those little, I mean, Joseph's teeth are so tiny.
Oh no.
And the bigger they get, because obviously she's six.
So you think Jojo is what now three.
So you think they then get these really big gums
and these tiny little teeth.
And then when they come back,
because they're so much bigger,
it takes a lot of time to get used to them.
It's so funny when they're really little,
you think, God, their teeth look massive.
Like Sadie's got her top front two now.
Oh, has she?
Yeah, and I remember thinking the same with Joseph,
like, wow, those top two teeth look huge.
But obviously as they grow and their face
and their head grows and all the other features grow they kind of just like settle into it.
Yeah. But now yeah Joseph's look so so tiny and they're really they're not fused together.
They're all really like standing like they're like tombstones. Yes. Really separate it's really cute.
Oh Renly cut another two so Dots has losing them, Ren's is growing them. He's growing them. Yeah
he's got he's got the next two at the top. So it's on eight
now? We are four at the bottom, four at the top. One at the, we've got one big one. One
coming through at the back. One big bad boy at the back. Do you know what? I can see Sadie's
next one's coming through at the top, but they are taking forever. Yeah. And she's having
all the bad symptoms, the saliva. She's waking at night, the runny poos. Oh, I meant to ask you, did you go for her jabs?
Yeah, did you?
Yeah, we did.
Did we do the same day?
Mine was on a couple of weeks ago.
No, mine was last week.
Was it all right?
Yeah.
Oh, well, no, no.
Obviously, in the moment, it's horrible, but afterwards, actually, totally fine.
Totally fine.
And weirdly for us, she slept all night long.
I said to Stefan, we'll have to jab him often.
I don't know what's going on. Renna's a sleeping
great. I don't know whether the sun is tiring him out.
Yeah. Yeah. No, she's not sleeping great anymore.
Ours were just last week. We just had ours. So I want to say it's probably...
Do you know what? She was all right, but I was more concerned because I had to take Joseph
with me. I had both of them that day and I was more concerned about him seeing her A,
being stabbed and B, screaming.
So he put his hands over his ears and was a bit like,
cause he doesn't really like loud noises and stuff.
But actually took it like a total champ.
I did forewarn him.
I said like, we're going to go in here now
and this is going to happen and blah, blah, blah.
He was quite fascinated by being in the nurse's office.
He was kind of just like prancing around.
So I was like, you just do your thing,
but don't touch anything.
And he was actually really good.
And she obviously like, she cried when they went in, but yeah, she was fine after that.
He literally stopped crying instantly.
Yeah.
And there's just the stillness.
It's the delayed reaction.
It was just how he just went so stiff.
And I was thinking, God, she's pushing this in so hard.
I know.
And it's four.
Two in each leg.
And then when I was there, she said,
you know, Joseph's got to have some more
in a couple of months.
I forgot about those ones.
His pre-school ones, three years.
Three years and four months.
Yeah.
I got to go again in two months.
To be fair, Colby cried at his three year ones,
Dottie didn't, she took it like a champ.
She was like, oh, that's a bit painful.
Oh, of course she did.
That's forward for, how strong that girl is.
Yeah.
I'm dreading those ones more,
because I think as they get older, it gets a little bit worse.
I don't know.
I feel like you can explain to them that it's going to be quite painful.
I think I was, I don't think I explained with Colby.
So when it came around to Dottie, I said to her, you know, we're going for some
jabbies and they are really, really painful.
Yeah.
It's going to be really quick and then we're going to go for a special lunch.
We did, we had a McDonald's.
So I think the older they are, you can explain it.
Obviously just Sadie and Renz. You can't the older they are, you can explain it. Obviously just Sadie and Ren, at this age,
you can't explain nothing.
Can you?
And one is hard, it's cause they're like aware enough,
but they're not old enough to understand why.
But Joseph, most things, I promise him a biscuit
and he does it, so.
What a lad to do that.
Easy pleased, isn't he?
How's your week been, though?
Do you know what?
Not that eventful.
I was just gonna say my nephew, so I went to
my nephew's birthday party. He was one, so he was born five weeks after Sadie. So a lovely
little birthday party for him. That's where Joseph was breaking my heart, playing the
Lego. God love him. But so Luca, my sister's little boy, they've recently found out he's
got a nut allergy because he's reacting quite badly to some foods they give him. They're not really sure what it is, but he gets like a real rash on his
cheek and his neck, a really itchy rash. And they found out they had some like blood tests done and
found out he's allergic to I think it's peanuts, walnuts and pecans. But obviously they don't know
now like anything that's made with like, even if it's not like the exact nut, it's something that's
made in a factory of nuts
or like may contain traces of nuts.
Like they don't know how allergic he is.
So it's really scary because if you give him anything,
you don't know how extreme the reaction's gonna be.
So they've got like the EpiPens and stuff now
to give him if he does have a reaction.
But yeah, I was just,
I've never really known anyone else go through
it before. So I was just wondering whether our listeners have got any experience of it
and what they've done. Cause I think the advice is to introduce them in, they're going to
try and do this like clinic where they introduce them in small amounts, but under supervision.
I was going to say, is it like the milk cladder? You know, when they, is that what it's like?
Yeah. But I think you have to be in a clinic just in case they have like a really bad,
they could have a really severe reaction.
So yeah, so I was just interested to know if anyone's gone through that and what they've done.
Because I think she's quite worried about just him and his life going forward.
Like if he goes to a birthday party or if they go on a plane or someone offers a sandwich,
like is he suddenly going to have a really bad reaction?
School as well, like we're so conscious.
I'd made a lunchbox the other day.
Didn't even think I put like a, you know,
them little crepes you get with the chocolate in there.
I just cut them up, put them in the lunchbox.
And I literally sat down to finish my morning tea
and dawned on me.
And I said to Chris, that's hazelnut spread.
I can't put that.
Do they ask you to not put nuts into the lunchbox?
We're both nuts.
Yeah, both schools are a nut free school.
We don't send anything.
I think nursery is as well.
It's nursery. Whereas our preschool, when Colby was there schools are a nut free school. We don't send anything. I think nursery is as well. Yeah.
Whereas our preschool, when Colby was there, it was nut free.
But when Dottie was there, there was no children.
So they basically worked on the children.
So if there was nobody in their care that had an allergy
that was in the school, we were okay to send stuff in.
But the moment there was a child that had an allergy,
they completely stopped.
But no, we're both nut free schools. We do have one that is an egg free. We have a day,
which is not very often there's a teacher that comes into the school,
DOTI school that has an egg allergy and they just ask like 24 hours in advance not to have anything.
It's just something I would never have thought about it before. And then it happens to someone
that you know, that you're close to.
And you suddenly think,
God, there's so many things in life
where he's gonna open himself up to potentially,
you know, dangerous reactions.
But it would be nice as well,
in case anybody is in your sister's boat,
if they're a bit further along and they can offer some advice,
or if there's somebody out there that also is new to this
and they've got some worries,
it'd be good to share some information some information. I would love to know.
Thank you.
Oh, send my love to your sister.
I know.
Bless her heart.
He's doing well, Debbie.
I was gonna say, is he doing all right?
He suddenly, like, he wasn't doing anything
compared to Sadie for ages.
He was just like, we just used to say
he was just like a little potato.
Just used to sit there, didn't roll,
didn't do anything for ages.
Suddenly, it's like he turned one over night
and he was like, this is what's expected of me now.
Started like walking.
This is my time. It's my time to shine. Started like, this is what's expected of me now. Started like walking. This is my time.
It's my time to shine.
Started like, all he wants to do now
is walk along holding your hands.
He's not doing it independently,
but he wants to, he used to love the little walker.
Now he's like, no, fuck that.
I'm over the walker, I'm walking now.
Yeah, get Sadie in there.
I've got bits to do, got places to be going.
We've got to be serious.
Yeah, so they're both,
they're at a really cute age at the moment.
It's very sweet.
I love that. So Emma and I really want to hear from you. We want you to join really cute age at the moment. It's very sweet. I love that.
Yeah.
So Emma and I really want to hear from you.
We want you to join us in the Secret Mom Club.
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It's time for the correspondence corner.
So Emma, let's hear it.
Take it away.
All right.
This one says, hello, Soph and Emma.
I wrote in about a year ago telling you about weeing all over the midwife before delivering
my second baby boy
and that I was pregnant with my first baby girl. Listening to the delayed delivery episode got me
thinking about my baby girl's birth. Sadly, before falling pregnant again, we suffered a miscarriage
the day before my birthday. We decided that if it had been a girl, we would have named her Poppy.
With my daughter, I started contracting at 34 weeks. She broke my waters at 35 weeks and I gave birth to little Dottie via C-section
on 11-11-24, Remembrance Day.
I truly believe she's a gift from our lost baby.
We are completely in love with our little dinky Dot.
Thank you so much for helping me
through pregnancy and motherhood
and for all the laughs along the way.
All my love, Becky from Southampton.
Oh, she's had a Dot and she's from Southampton.
Oh, what?
It's so hard, isn't it?
I do feel the, it's hard.
After miscarriage, I can't speak for ever.
This is obviously a really sensitive topic
we're gonna talk about, but I can't imagine for a second how anyone feels having a stillborn baby. Obviously I have had,
I have had a miscarriage myself. And I think it's really hard because sometimes people don't
understand like the way I talk about it, because I think you find in yourself, it doesn't ever get
easier. And again, with everything in life, I always question,
you know, what if they were here?
And then I sometimes get sad because I think,
gosh, if they weren't here, I would have never,
if they were here, I would have never had Dot.
Like they were between, they were twins, sorry,
were between Colby and Dotty.
And I've touched on it before, but I just think,
and I always think, God, if I had the twins,
then I wouldn't have had Dotty and gosh, you know,
wouldn't have had Renly.
So I think sometimes people are, maybe not struggle, but sometimes I think because I
think different ways to everybody else, like me personally, I just think in my head, there's
a reason, you know, and the babies would have been insanely unwell had they been here, you
know, and it would have impacted not only their own lives,
but you know, everybody around them.
And I just don't think there's ever,
it definitely doesn't get easier.
And I definitely think miscarriage, you know,
as well as stillborn, I can't talk on that
because I don't know enough, you know, or how that feels.
But both are so valid is that I can't,
just can't, the next stage of once you fall pregnant
after that. It is a hard one.
You must be so worried all the time that something's gonna happen.
Yeah, it's not. It's hard isn't it? I think it's easy for me to sit here and say because
I have been so lucky to have Dottie after the miscarriage and then have Renly now as
well and I think sometimes I don't want to talk about it because I don't want to, to come across wrong because I do feel very fortunate that I've had them
after the miscarriage, but it doesn't, it didn't make it any of them any easier. But
to be honest, I was just as worried after the miscarriage as I was when I was pregnant
with Colby. And I just don't think that ever goes away. But it is a hard one. I just can't imagine having,
like I was so anxious in both my pregnancies
and I am very fortunate to have never experienced
a miscarriage, but I just can't fathom going through that.
Like all the feelings and emotions that come along with it,
like you're so excited to be pregnant
and then this awful thing happens
and then you're mourning the loss,
but you think you want another baby, but are you gonna to be able to do it again? Are you going to
be able to carry a baby to term? It's just all so, so stressful and anyone who's been
through it, I just think women are just amazingly strong.
Yeah, I do. I just find that women are just the most incredibly strong and then to go
on and have another baby after, um, after the miscarriage or, you know, or losing a baby. I just think
it just, it just blows my mind truly. And I, it's really hard. And I kind of, I went
through a lot of emotions, I think, after having my miscarriage in the sense that I
just felt like my body had just let my babies down and I felt a lot of anger at myself and
at my body. And it's really hard to come to terms with. And I felt a lot of anger at myself and at my body.
And it's really hard to come to terms with.
And I don't, and do you know what?
And I do stand by this.
It doesn't matter how far in the pregnancy you are.
I really struggle when people go, oh, were you-
What was early on?
Yeah.
Oh, you've already got a child.
Like, I don't think-
None of that helps.
The moment you find that,
have that positive pregnancy test
all the way through
to the end. And if it is gosh, if on my whole heart, if it's tragedy at the end, I just
don't, it doesn't bear thinking about that. It's so hard, but I just, whatever point it
is at your life, it doesn't invalidate you as a mom. Like if you were pregnant for two,
three, four, five weeks, all the way to nine months, you know?
And you're still a mom in my eyes,
do you know what I mean?
And I just think we find our own way to deal with it
and not two people deal with it exactly the same.
But I just love, you know,
when it's a positive outcome, you know?
And I just think that the rainbow baby feeling
is like a different feeling to having the baby You know, and I just think that rainbow, the rainbow baby feeling is, is so, um, it's like
a different feeling to having the baby.
Like I had when I had Colby and then I had Dottie after the twins, you're just so, so
much more absorbed in like that whole, that whole moment.
I think as well, if it was, she was my first baby after having a miscarriage again, I think
I would have felt differently in that moment, but I think because I'd had Colby at home,
and then I'd gone on to have the miscarriage
and then have Dottie, that feeling of having her,
it was just massively, massively overwhelming.
Like I just couldn't believe that she was there.
Like I'd gone through all of that before,
to then I'd actually got all the way and then had her.
And I was just like, Jesus.
Yeah, you must've been like...
It's a really overwhelming feeling,
but again, it's so hard to explain it when,
if somebody hasn't been through it,
do you know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah.
And you can't explain your feelings, can you?
No. You just feel what you feel.
Yeah. It's hard for me to talk on it, obviously,
because I haven't been through it,
but I'm just full of admiration for.
Yeah. Oh, and congratulations.
Becky, little dinky dot.
Little dinky dotty.
But do, please do.
I don't want anyone to ever feel they can't message in and share their experiences or
if you'd like any support if you're going through it, you know, we're always here to
talk so don't want anyone to feel alone.
It's a really scary process trying to fall pregnant. The process
from every angle, falling pregnant, trying to conceive, you know, infertility or IVF, every
single aspect of pregnancy is just a really hard one. So I don't want anyone to ever feel alone.
Thank you so much, Becky. And I hope she's settling into this world perfectly.
Oh, she's only like a few months.
She's only really, really tiny.
Six months.
Yes, really tiny.
So you can get in touch with us on anything at all.
Yeah, it can be serious or silly and you can be totally anonymous.
Because between us, we've probably heard it all before.
And remember, we're all in this together and we know that we are, we're all stars and we see that.
Right buckle the blinking hell up for this one.
Okay.
I hope you've got a cup of tea for this episode.
A cup of tea.
A cup of tea because it's been a long one.
Okay, this one, no judgment.
It's a free space for us to all talk openly and honestly.
Okay.
Okay.
What's she done now?
Right. So would involve Chrissy this one.
Okay.
So we are having, I think because of the tooth, the teeth situation, we've been struggling
to brush the teeth.
Right.
So we're trying to brush the teeth, but they're all wobbly.
It's making her feel sick or they're bleeding a little bit.
So we've had a little bit of a tough, tough couple of weeks with the wobbly teeth, right?
Because they took the fucking time to come out.
One of them was hanging on for dear life.
It's about two weeks, it was hanging on by a thread.
Oh gosh.
It was wild.
And she hasn't been eating because of it.
So, we were, it was like, it was getting late in the evening.
It was on a weekend, it was getting late in the evening.
Chris said, right, come on, we need to go and brush our teeth.
We need to go brush our teeth, get on with it.
And they were like, no, no, we're not brushing our teeth.
We don't want to do it.
What is with kids and brushing their fucking teeth?
I actually love it so much. So Chris said, if you don't brush your teeth, I'm going to
rub your... No judgment. No one go for Chrissy on this one. He said, I'm going to rub your
toothbrushes on my bum. Right? Rub your toothbrushes on my bum." And they were like,
no, no, no, dad, don't do that. Weird to say. Literally, I sat there and I was like,
if the children left the room to brush their teeth, I went to Chris. Are you? That's weird.
And Chris was like, I know. I don't know what I was thinking. I nearly set up the bum and I did.
And I'm glad I said, brush them on my bum. And then Colby come back in the room and Colby was like,
brush them on my bum. And then Colby come back in the room and Colby was like, that was, that was weird. Chris is like, I know, but here's where it gets real. And I feel like you know what's
fucking coming. Oh no. So lovely teacher come up to me in the playground of Dottie's play,
sorry, Colby's playground, but about Dottie. She said, Oh, I have to talk to you about something.
I said, Oh, do you issue? Um, yes. Dottie had us all in bouts of laughter today because she'd said how daddy had been
saying lots of F words and B words in the car accident. I said, gosh, so incredibly
sorry. There was a lot. I'm not going to sit here and gloss it out. There was a lot of
she did. And she was like, yep.
Yep.
She said there was F's, there was B's and he was shouting really loud.
Fucking bastards.
He was shouting really loud, you know, and I was like, oh gosh, I'm so sorry.
But she was like, no, it did make us laugh.
And we're just so glad that you're all okay from the car accident.
That was day one.
The next day I went in, which would have been the day after the toothbrush situation, Dotty come out of school and got in the car and said,
so, you know, I told the teacher about dad swearing and I said, yes.
And she went, well, I did tell them today that dad said, if I don't brush my
teeth, he's going to shove my toothbrush up his bum.
said, if I don't brush my teeth, he's going to shove my toothbrush up his bum.
I went to the playground the next day and she, the teacher just looked at me.
She just looked at me and she knew, you know, when you are that song in my head was playing, she knows, she knows.
I know she knows.
Was she just shaking her head?
I just, I just didn't know.
And again, like our, like our other one,
the other one on Thursday, Tuesday, Thursday, what episode?
Thursday.
Was our Thursday episode
about the situation with the teacher.
That was me.
I haven't been back to school since.
You're in trouble.
Yeah, I can't, I can't.
Come on, look at Chris.
Do you not feel embarrassed that you've just told the-
Send Chris up there.
I do, I do send Chris in now. I say, oh, I'll wait in the car when you're collecting Dot.
Face up to your own crimes.
The teacher has a child in Colby's school. So I have to see her in the playground down
there. But I thought no one's come up directly and said, I don't know whether that's embarrassing
for her to say, well, Dotty did say that her dad said he's going to shove her toothbrush
up her bum if she doesn't brush her teeth.
It's quite embarrassing for Chris.
Shove her toothbrush up his bum, I should say. So she brushes her teeth. Can you imagine?
Can you imagine? And I said, daddy didn't say that. And she went, well, what did he
say then? I said, he's going to rub your brush on his bum.
On his bum. He did want to say it on his bum and he stopped himself.
Colby went, that's literally no better, mum. Yep. I know. I know.
I love that. That's your argument. That's not what he said.
He said he's going to do it on his bum. And then Colby went, that's literally no better
mom. No, I know. I'm trying to polish a turd. Okay. Trying to defend your dad. And I said
to Chris, well that'll teach you not to say it to get it. He was howling. He was roaring.
He found it so funny. It is quite funny. So just go careful when you're trying to encourage your
children to brush their teeth. I was going to say bribe, but encourage is definitely
a better word. To encourage them to brush their teeth. Do not say you're going to shove
up your gum. You need to put Dottie under some kind of like censorship ban where you
go, look, what we talk about in this house is not to be repeated at school. Some of the
things that this girl. She's going to get you in the shit. I've got a list on my phone now, the things that Dottie says.
I just feel like I should have created a book on the things that Dottie says.
It's not too late.
It's not too late.
You still need to.
I just can't.
The book of Dottie-isms.
Please write them all down.
So there we go.
That's my secret this week.
We'll get into some of yours after this short break.
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We've got three secrets we're going to be discussing this week. Emma, let's have secret
number one.
Alright, it says, hi ladies, I have a secret from my younger days to share. We were in
the car after a lovely family walk and four-year-old me innocently said, Mummy. She replied, Yes, darling. I said, Can I have a fucking ice cream?
My mum and dad burst out laughing. They didn't know what to say. Mum still tells
this story at every opportunity. Love you both lots. Danielle from Doncaster.
Go on, Danielle. Do you know what my secret obsession is children on, you know,
when people make compilations of children swearing, I live for it. I live
for it. It makes me so happy. I have no shame. I wonder what Danielle thought it meant. I
don't know. I just want a fucking ice cream. But also I wonder if she's just used the word
in the impeccable, impeccable scenario. If you're at home and I've said to Chris, just
give me a fucking ice cream, you know, whatever she's repeating.
Yeah, she's heard that somewhere.
Oh, that's brilliant.
That one is brilliant.
I love that.
In a Doncaster accent as well.
I bet it's iconic.
I bet that would have been.
I'm not going to try and do it, but I bet that would have been great.
Doncaster by the way, is not far from.
Sheffield.
Sheffield where we're doing Crosswires.
Yeah, we're going to mention it at every opportunity.
Every opportunity, just so you can get there and see us. I mean, just chomp on the train.
Just chomp on the train.
Well, that's forever going to be chomp on the train. Just jump on the train. It's middle
of the day. We could just have a lovely time.
It's perfect. Saturday afternoon, come for a little day trip.
Yeah, be home and in bed. We might even be home and in bed by five. We're at 1.30, aren't
we?
1.30, I'd like to say dinner by five, bed by nine. Yeah, yeah. Bed by Five. We're at 1.30, aren't we? 1.30, I'd like to say dinner by five, yeah, Bed by nine.
Yeah.
Bed by nine.
Yes, nine.
Nine, that's what I was gonna say.
That's definitely one.
Bath at seven, Bed by nine.
Yes, yes, that's great.
Perfect night out for us.
If anyone mentions a remotely northern or Midlands town,
you bet we'll be mentioning Crossriders and Sheffields.
Chomp on the train.
Just chomp on the train.
Right, let's roll into secret number two.
All right, it says, hello ladies,
I've recently ended a friendship of about 12 years.
We were best friends for nine of them
and I was wondering if you had any advice.
This friend was around for everything.
We were inseparable, whether it was food shopping,
wandering around home bargains or a full girls weekend,
we always did it together.
I got pregnant in 2022 and had my beautiful little boy
in August that year.
Oh, congratulations.
Sadly, our friendship just hasn't survived.
I always thought we'd be aunties to each other's babies,
but it hasn't worked out that way.
When I was in hospital for two weeks having him,
she visited once for half an hour
and she's only met him a handful of times since.
Over time, she stopped inviting me places,
stopped visiting and stopped replying to invites. The last invite I sent felt like a nail in the coffin. I realized I was holding
on to something that wasn't there anymore. I'm heartbroken. No fallout, no argument,
just radio silence. Motherhood is so lonely and after dedicating 10 years of loyalty to
this one person, it feels like I have nobody. I've been making an effort with other friendships
but it's just not the same. How do you overcome the loneliness
that comes with motherhood?
Love, Clarice.
Oh, this is really, really sad.
Isn't it?
This is really, really sad.
We spoke about this before,
because we were like, you talk about relationships,
ending romantic relationships,
but you don't ever really talk about the end of a friendship
and that can be just as hard to deal with.
If not, I would say maybe a little bit harder,
because I feel like there's some things that
you share to girlfriends that you wouldn't go home and...
With your partner, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So it's, well, maybe it's not hard. Maybe it's just because two completely different,
but no one of them is any easier than the other, you know? And I feel like if you've
worked at that and you're trying, I would say from what we can read from this,
I wouldn't say it's you that's the issue.
Yeah, I mean, obviously we're only getting one side of the story here.
Of course, of course.
If you feel like you're reaching out and it's just not being reciprocated, that's really
heartbreaking, isn't it?
How do you get over loneliness?
Even sometimes when I look back, I know when I was in the thick of it and I was so, so lonely,
I don't even know how now I dealt with that.
Does that make sense?
Because you always talk about like not really having
a tight friendship, like a group of like girlfriends.
So that's kind of been your experience, I guess.
Yeah, but I wouldn't say that I lost any of my friends.
I lost them all before I fell pregnant, you know,
or didn't really have a solid friend.
Yeah, I was the same.
We didn't really leave school
with like a group of girlfriends, did we?
No, so when I obviously went on to then have Colby,
I kind of was very much confident in myself
as who I was as a person.
And even now, and I know it's
a really cliched thing to say and I know everybody's not the same, but I just live for the babies.
Like I am reliving my life through them, like the things that I feel like I maybe didn't
fulfill when I was younger, even though, you know, I had a great childhood, great growing
up, but I just feel like there's
things maybe that I don't remember about my childhood that I love doing. Like I love going
out for walks. I love going shopping with the babies, going to the park, doing crafts
at home, being in the garden. I am somebody that fully absorbs my babies and I know that's
not for everybody. And I know people need to have that outlay or do want to have that
outlay,
but I'm obviously as well very fortunate
that I do have my sister.
You've got a tight family as well.
So yeah, I just fall back on Roxanne.
And again, it's very similar to me.
She doesn't have a big tight knit group of friends.
She's got a couple of the school mums now
and we just have each other,
always have had each other, you know, kind
of things. I think it's also goes through peaks in motherhood. Definitely goes in waves.
Yeah. So when you then go to preschool, you then get your little preschool friends or
if you've got like work friends. And I know, I know Clarice has mentioned that she has
tried with other friends and it just doesn't feel the same. It's just, it's, I feel like
it's like a journey of, it maybe doesn't feel the same.
And I wonder sometimes like if you were still in that situation with your friend, again,
everything, I always believe everything happens for a reason. What is to say that it wasn't
going to be the same friendship because you are a different person. You know, regardless
of what happens, we can't just go back to the person.
What it was like before.
No, so I wonder if it's just a sign of showing
that you're literally just going through a transition
where you just need to find yourself
and find out what makes you happy
and what you enjoy doing
and find people that are in your.
In the same boat.
Yeah, in the same boat issue
because I went to classes with Colby,
went to music classes,
swimming, went and put myself out. And then I actually met a couple of mum friends that
then on a Monday I went swimming and I met this friend and then on a Tuesday, I know
it's not the same. I totally, totally get it's not the same, but it's just kind of finding
a new normal and also not fighting for something that the other person isn't-
That isn't there anymore.
Isn't worthy of fighting back.
I think it is a little bit like a romantic relationship
in that sense, like you're never gonna move on
and find somebody new if that's what you want.
If you're still holding on to the past relationship
that broke down for whatever reason.
And it's kind of the same with a friendship.
Like if you're clinging onto something that,
like you say, isn't necessarily there anymore.
You're never gonna find a new, new with somebody.
Yeah, someone else to fill that void.
And it's never gonna be exactly the same. No. But you will find other people, you might never find someone else to fill that void. And it's never going to be exactly the same, but you will find other people
that you get along with, like you say, that are doing similar things in life
at the moment that have maybe got children the same age or, you know,
they're, I think how you're feeling is so valid.
It's a very scary, it's a very scary journey as into motherhood, but I just
feel like it's easy for me to say, because obviously
I'm, you know, this far down now in parenting. It is easy for me to say it, but right at
the start, I know that feeling of feeling lonely and on your own and feeling like you've
got nobody and it is so incredibly scary, but fill your days up with things that you
love to do. Like if you do love going to B&M, still go to B&M. Yeah, take a little point.
And still do things that you like to do. And don't miss out on doing anything because you're
missing her. I think sometimes that's a bit like a plaster you just got to carry on. And
there's nothing to say then at year's time, there may have been something and she reaches
out and says, you know, I've done this, this and this or this has happened
and I just didn't know how.
Yeah, that's true. You may come back together in the future. You never know. You never know
what's going on.
But for right now, I feel like the universe has just got a little bit of a different path
for you and it might just be your time to concentrate on you rather than thinking about
somebody else, concentrate on you and finding what you love and love about yourself because
that's the most important thing. Yeah. And love about yourself. Good advice.
Because that's the most important thing.
Yeah.
Right, let's have the last secret.
All right, it says, hello lovely ladies, I've been listening to your podcast from the very beginning
and genuinely look forward to tuning in each week.
You've saved my sanity more times than I can count and kept me grounded through many mummy wobbles.
That said, I just had to share an embarrassing moment that happened the other day, courtesy of my four year old son.
I'm currently 32 weeks pregnant with baby number three.
Wow.
I have two boys, age three and four,
and we're expecting a little girl this June.
Oh. Stop it.
Congratulations.
The other day, I decided to do something heroic.
I built my boys a bunk bed all by myself.
Yes, you did, girly-wirly.
Wow. And she's pregnant.
And she's really heavily pregnant.
Really heavily pregnant.
Naturally, my body felt like it had been hit by a toddler-driven truck.
In desperate need of recovery, I ran a nice relaxing bubble bath.
Finally, a moment of peace.
Also, I thought.
Five minutes in, my four-year-old barged in, stripped off,
and cannonballed into the bath with me.
Because, of course, privacy went out the window around 2019.
Being 32 weeks pregnant, I haven't seen privacy went out the window around 2019. Being 32 weeks
pregnant I haven't seen anything below my bump in a while. He looked straight between
my legs, pointed and asked, Mummy, why is your china so hairy? He says china instead
of vagina. Thank you. Trying not to drown in laughter, I calmly explained that when
you get older you grow hair in certain places like vaginas, willies and armpits. He found
this hilarious and started chanting, Mummy's hairy china, Mummy's hairy china. Fast forward to the next day,
my dad popped around for a visit. We're all sitting there nice and civilized when my son climbs onto
the sofa, wedges himself between me and my dad and starts bouncing up and down gleefully shouting,
Mummy's hairy china, Mummy's hairy china. I wanted the sofa to swallow me whole.
My dad looked like he wanted to yeet himself out the window. I hope you found my humiliation
as funny as my son clearly did. Keep up the fab work. Ladies love Rebecca from Birmingham.
Rebecca, we love you so much. Oh my God, that killed me off. That did. My dad looked like
he wanted to yeet himself out the window. What a great word.
Oh, yeet. it's a funny one.
It's a funny one.
It's never not funny.
Pubes are never not funny.
And when you've got to start having these conversations
with the children and you just,
you look in their eyes and you just see them
sort of processing and then,
I remember one time obviously saying to Dottie,
you're gonna have hair and she was like,
I don't want a hairy foofy like yours.
Yeah, what the hell?
Oh, what's wrong with my foofy?
I don't want that.
I mean, lest we forget the chainsaw
that they had to get out of my caesarean section.
So I feel you, I feel you Rebecca.
Couldn't get down there for weeks.
I would have said, look, while you're there,
do you want to just shave?
Help mummy out a bit, cause I can't.
Take one for the team, will you? God bless his heart.
Oh, gosh. I love that.
Thank you, Rebecca.
Joseph has asked me about that before.
What, hairy fufi?
Yeah, he pointed to me and said,
what mummy, what are those?
Yeah.
And have I got them?
I said, hopefully not yet.
It's when-
You will wonder.
Yeah. Or when they go,
you got a hairy bum like dad's willing.
Oh.
Pardon?
I'm dreading explaining the period when I go, oh yeah, once a month, you're going to bleed out
of your vagina for a week. Sadie's going to be like, what?
It is a surreal conversation, but I think because it was, it came so naturally at my house.
Yeah.
Because I was just, you just can't prepare yourself for these topics. Like if there was a camera on
my house, like indoors. I wish there was. Just yourself for these topics. Like if there was a camera on my house,
like indoors, I'll just talk about these topics. It's fascinating, honestly. I love it so much.
Oh, God.
But God bless you, Rebecca. May your pregnancy, end of your pregnancy be just fantastic.
Best of luck for the birth.
Maybe no more building anymore.
In June. Bunk beds.
Bunk beds. And enjoy the sunshine. I hope everyone, I hope all of our pregnant momm are coping okay. Right in this heat. And all the mummers with the little tiny babas,
just anybody. I hope everyone's coping. Yeah. But especially those who are pregnant and
have got toddlers because that's mad. We're in the thick of it. That is not for the week.
We go from one extreme to the other in England. I know. But I love it. It's calming down by
Sunday, guys. Don't worry. No, don't worry. Thank you for sharing your secrets this week.
Everyone is welcome in the Secret Mum Club.
If you'd like to share your secrets with us, you can.
The email is hello at secretmumpod.com
or we're Secret Mum Pod on TikTok and Instagram.
Has your bath been invaded?
Or do you have a little one who loves to slip in a swear?
Let us know, there really is nothing too outrageous.
Keep an eye out for our Thursday episode
and get your tickets for our live show in Sheffield.
We're coming to Crossed Wives Festival
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Just head to our socials for details
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And we'll see you next time on the
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