Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - This is Matt Barnes

Episode Date: September 22, 2026

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and what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. You did, and we listened to so much good hip-hop. We were so lucky. It was the 90s. It was the mid-90s.

We're like right in L.A. hip-hop. Yep. And we liked our knowledge. Like these cuss-too. Yeah, of course. You really kind of went that whole world up to me. I went too far with it, you know. But you were like a.

rich boy from the palisades like going to dance clubs and wearing huge clothes Oh my God, that's the song I said. The motherfucking palisade. I freestyle a song and sent it to Kate. That was... It was a toilet song. Let's be honest.

It was a joke toilet song. Of course. Fucking palisades. I was like being hard about the palisades. You're talking about the nannies. You're talking about the nannies. It's a very funny. song actually, we should put it out. It'd be a good one.

I have it. You should do like an Adam Sandler version of your type of music, which is like rapping and your, you know, your coffee songs. Yes. I know. I could be a fun album. We should do it. I got to, I'm going to find out. We have been interviewing special forces peeps. You have done this. You're on special forces. No, I know. I know. I know about your experience. I can't wait for people to see it, but I also can't wait to see what they show. I don't know. That's the problem with doing these shows. Sometimes you're the mercy.

I know. Of the editor. Now, because I know of things that happen honestly, like, do you think if they edited a certain way for certain things, that it will piss you off?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably. I'm not sure I gave them anything that is going to. Yeah, you did. No, no, but I mean,

they can't like make me look that bad. Maddie's coming in soon. Yeah. And he went through more, of a situation than I did. Yeah. It was insane. Oh, my God.

I haven't seen him in so long. You're going to have a crush on him again. Oh, I did have a crush on Matt, Mattie, back in the day when Baron, my Baron Davis, which we'll discuss, but who I wasn't, we were in the same grade in high school, they were on the Warriors. But at the time, see, I was dating somebody. Could have been, and he might have been dating somebody. But I always had a little crush on him. I always liked his tattoos.

Yeah. Because they were, I realize, you know, he'd be playing and I'd, I'd be like, court side and I'd be like, court side. I'd be like, ooh, like his tattoos are like an artist tattoos, like an art, like almost like a hipster, thoughtful. There's like meaning behind them you could tell that like he thinks about placement. I liked the aesthetic. Yeah.

Yeah. He was one of the first balls that was all that was like full on. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And then it just started to snowball. Which is why I probably liked him. It's probably why he tickled my feather.

Is that what you say? I don't know. Tickled your feather. What is your feather? I don't know. But what's the, what is the? No. No, what is the same?

Tickle my fancy. My fancy. He tickled my feather. I'm like, oh, okay. Now, do we call him Barnsey? Or Maddie. Maddie? Maddie?

Is it Barnsey? I don't know. Forget what... It was like 20 years ago. I'm MB. But Stephen Jackson was also on that team. Yeah. And I would like FaceTime with Stephen all the time.

They do their pod together. I see. I know. Oh, my God. Good. We were just, I was just filling in. We were just talking. You know what's funny about what you were just saying is

where literally I just talked to Warriors Entertainment. on the way here, we're doing the We Believe Doc, and your name came up. Oh, really? You may have to speak on our behalf. I will definitely. Well, I remember, because it was such a time. She was trying to figure out of the team. She was even Jack.

No, it was the Warriors. So Barron, Jack, Monter. It was so fun. Yeah. I think you guys were filming a movie at the time. Well, yeah, we were, well. Or back and forth between something. Yeah, we were doing, I was doing something.

And then we'd come up and hang out. Yes. Always. Yeah. Jessica. I think Owen was there one game. Owen and I were, that was when we were dating.

Oh, okay. So it was like, we would talk about that. What was that like? We're talking. And then I was just all, I was like, all of a sudden I had all these memories of that time.

And like Stephen Jackson. Yeah. Then like he got into trouble. He got in trouble. That's how he got to us because he got in trouble. That's right. Because he got in like a shootout. You got a shootout or something.

Yeah. Well, he did. No, but I was like, face-timing with him. And I was like, you can't just like take your gun. And he was like, and he was telling me like, this guy pissed me off. I was like, but you can't do that. And I'm like, facetiming with him. I think he was on house arrest or something.

Trying to be the voice of reason. And I was trying to be like, Stephen, listen, okay, put your, keep your gun at home. Yes. Keep it in a safe. You should call John Moran, tell him the same thing. But I loved him. Yes. Oh, we had such fun.

Good. Man, I haven't seen you in a while. How did you guys? Barron? Through Barron. Yeah. Through Barron. Yeah.

And then just that time was, it was funny because we were literally talking about it. That was like two and a half months where we kind of captured the attention of the world. One round, one round of the playoffs. We got Pete in the second round, but it was just so crazy. Like even when I went back to that team in 17 and won a championship and retired, like Steph and Dre and Katie, all those guys wanted to know. The media wanted to know. The coach, what was that team like?

It was so special. And it was so like, it was, yeah, it was just, there was like an energy. There was just a great vibe. We partied hard on and off the court. I mean, you'd appreciate that. Like, we went hard. Yes. I'm trying to remember there was all this stuff happening.

I remember what was going on with you personally, but I feel like I remember. Well, Kate was into you. I always thought you were super cute. But I still think you're very happy. No, I never knew that. But I was, I told all that. I was like, I had, I had a boyfriend, but I was like, mad. So, you know, it was funny.

So around that time, I was completely single at that time, but kind of dating the twins' mom. Yes. But she wouldn't come around, though. She didn't want to be around. I don't want you to think that I want you to do this. All this game, she was running on me. So I was kind of still free will hunting. And then, like, after that season, we kind of got together.

And then, shit, got pregnant, like, 10 months later. And the twins are 17. Like, one of my twins is on a college visit today. She was sending me pictures of everything. So it went like that. They've been bawling. Isn't that crazy? How fast.

Do you keep in touch with Barron? Yeah. Talk to Barron all the time. Talk to Barron. Obviously, Jack and I worked together. I saw Monté and Jay, I see our whole team now because we have kids similar A, so we'll see each other at AU tournaments all the time.

And then my stepkids playing the same tackle football league as Barron's sons do. Okay. So we see them on Saturdays and we're still in the same game. Barron is the best. Yeah. Such a good dad, too. Yeah. Yeah. He's good. He's doing, he's doing good.

Uh-oh. He's doing good. We've got to wrangle baron in every once in a while. Let's be honest. You got a wrangle baronet. Barron Inn. Barron is wild. He's the man of many thoughts.

He is. He's seven different personality. He's such an Aries. Yeah. Like he is just an Aries through and through. I did the British baking show with him. A British baking show? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Case in point. Was he an awful baker? Case in point. I was terrible. I was sure. He was terrible. We had to do it was a Christmas theme.

and we had to do sort of what meant something to us for like the final thing and meringue. And he made like a, he made black Santa. Yes. Because he's got a whole black. Yes. That's right. I don't know what color it was. It wasn't black.

Charcoal? Yeah. Oh, it's so, oh, Baron. Yeah, he's nutty. Barron, just for, you know, our listeners, Barron and I were in the same grade in high school. We were both like very, he was like a. crazy athlete, obviously ended up playing pro ball. I was sort of like the, we were like the male

female athletes of our grade. And so we were super close. You played sports too? Yeah, I played soccer. Okay. But I was really fast. So I was like being recruited for track. Like I was, but sports, I just loved them. So, um, and then we were always in a homeroom together because of our names. So he was like my best day in high school, which is how we. Let me ask you a question about the kids real quick. Just being a ball or being in the NBA, you know, having that kind of success. When you are watching your kids play ball, you obviously have a keen eye for what can make it and what can't. Yeah. How do you get real with yourself about the ability or do you, are you, you know, it's like, well, you're good kid, but like it's not going to happen for you. Well, I just, you know,

I had the fortunate, you know, luck to be able to coach my kids. So I retired in 17 and started coaching my kids literally that summer. So they were eight, I think, and they're 17 now. So we literally just had our last tournament. I almost shed a bug tear like a month and a half ago at Peach Jam and Nike Nationals. And, you know, with my kids, it's, you know, especially because there's so many athlete kids and even celebrity kids now and everyone thinks that everyone's going pro. My whole thing was just like, let's continue just to get better. And we live in such a day now, instant validation on social media and showing off all this. I don't believe in that shit. I just believe we continue to get better each day, work on the fundamentals.

and really have a grasp of how the game works. You know, with my kids, I'm very realistic. But I'm not one of those dads that I did my thing. You know, so I don't have to vicariously live through them. And I say even though I played 15 years and won a championship and had some awesome teams, I've never been more happy and excited to just watch them succeed and love what they do.

I mean, that's my favorite. And lucky enough for me, so I have the boys, the twins are 17 and going in their senior year, I have a seven-year-old, and happy birthday to Austin. today's Austin's second birthday. So my little guy is two. So I got two more boys coming down the pipeline on top of that, two steps on and the stepdaughter. So we just have a house full of athletes. You know what I mean? So it's constant. Yeah, so one of them will make.

So where were you? Where were you born? Where did you grow up? So I was born in Santa Clara, California, lived in San Jose. So that's probably about an hour outside of San Francisco, Oakland area, hour and some change. And then my dad was dibble and dabbling in the streets. And one night we decided we needed to move. Oh, I didn't. I was young, but we moved to Sacramento when I was nine, so about 1989. And I did from nine to 17, I was at in Sacramento. And then I came to UCLA right when I turned 18, and I've pretty much been in LA ever since. You're California. California, through and through. And your siblings? So I'm the old, well, I was the oldest of three for like 42 years. I'm 46 now, but I found out I have an older brother like three or four years ago.

So did we? We did too. Really? Yeah. So my dad was a Rolling Stone, I found out. But I allegedly have two brothers. I've only met one, but he's maybe two or three years older than me. So he's maybe 48 or 49. But for the majority of my life, I was the big brother. And my sister's two years younger than me. And then my brother's two years younger than her.

And the dynamic. So you guys were close. Close, super close. So my sister has four sons. And my brother has a son and a daughter. So my dad has nine grandsons and one granddaughter. So he's super papa. but yeah close my sister actually my brother just moved back my brother was in dc doing some business

and just moved back to norcal my sister's been in sacrament i never left and then my dad's in the bay i don't know if you recall but right after that we believe season my mom died of cancer the very next year yeah you know so once my mom died my dad moved out of sack moved back to the bay where he's from and um yeah everything did your dad like get on the straight after a while he finally did you know my dad made ends me and i'm i'm at i was born in 1980 i was born in 1980s i was born in 1980s 80s, but if you guys were crying, I mean, everyone was doing Coke back in right. My parents were part of years and my dad dealt.

So my dad was a butcher by day. And then my brother used to think because my dad would get off work, come home and dressing all black. Then my dad was going out and being a ninja. That's what my brother thought my dad was. And I had to tell me that, bro, like, dad's not a ninja. Dad's not there doing some other shit. So, you know, my dad made ends meet.

So it was always like my mom that kind of had to be super mom. You know, she was a stay-at-home mom and really kind of gave us all the love we needed. My dad was more of a tough love guy, but my dad and I never really saw eye to eye or really had a real relationship outside of sports and fighting when I was younger. So when my mom passed when I was 27 is when my dad kind of broke down and I learned more about his childhood and all the shit he had gone through. And, you know, since my mom passed unfortunately, but I felt like through my mom's passing, I gained my dad. So he's been amazing ever since we have a great relationship. We talk often again, Super Papa. He's got 10 grand babies.

But yeah, I think the death of my mom woke my dad up. Is he still an injure? No, I hope he's not. That's fucking 75. I hope he's put down his sword and his nun checks and his five-star throwing dark. But now, Papa lives up north and he likes to mow his grass. It looks like a putting green. And he grows his weed and he grows vegetables.

And he loves to smoke weed and fish. That's kind of, you know, he did almost 30 years of, you know, was a butcher. And now he just spends his time. chilling, which I love. Was there any, like, reverence, or were you reveling in it at all? Meaning, like, oh, like, like, hot-low, like, like, hot-lo? Like, like, you know what I mean? Like, this is back in the day.

This is early 80s. So, we would go to the flea markets in the Bay Area, and my dad would play these tackle football leagues with no pads, and he would always fuck people up. And I just thought that was so cool. Yeah. He was a good football player, but he would always fuck people up. Yeah. And I'm just like, oh, my dad can fight, and he's good at football.

I love that part. Yeah. But that was really unfortunate, like, our only connection because now, understanding, He didn't know how to show love, give love, all that kind of heat because he had such a tough, tough, tough, tough childhood. When I heard the stuff he went through, I was like, holy smokes. Yeah. So is that something that you had to learn how to do? I had to learn how to unpack all that shit.

That's what I mean. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Give love, show love. And I had to, and I'm still in the process of, you know, two different types of counseling. But one thing I knew that I just, I didn't want to be like my dad from that kind of standpoint. I'm a super loving, hugging, kissing. And sensitive.

I remember that about you. Yeah, I'm a Pisces. You're super sensitive. Yeah, but it doesn't, it's hard for to see it or me to show it, but it really has to happen. And I think my sensitivity is more kind of disappointment because I always love to give people the benefit of the doubt and allow them to kind of fuck it up. And unfortunately, sometimes people do. But, you know, it just took me, I knew from what I saw as a child that I wanted to be the others

that it's okay to show love. It's okay to show emotion because we grew up when stop, stop, crying, toughen up, all that kind of shit. And just that generation, although I'm that kind of person, that's not what I wanted my kids to grow up in. Funny story about my fucking dad. So about a month ago, my dad's fiancee calls my wife and says, your dad's in the hospital. I was like, oh, shit, what's going on?

Come to find out, this motherfucker got drunk and raced one of his friends, fell down, broke three ribs and punctured lung. Oh, no. How that fucking, you mean like foot race? Like a race. At 75 years old. I'm sure they were smoking and drinking and hanging out. Oh, man.

I'm like, you can't beat me. He's like, fuck you out. I can. But listen, so I'm trapped. Unfortunately, I couldn't make it up to see him. And I just wanted to make sure he was good and he was good. So when I first call him, first thing his motherfucker says, yeah, when I get healthy, I'm going to beat him in the race. I'm like, you'll sit your old fucking ass down somewhere.

So great spirit and energy and just, you know, understanding that, not that he had to write his wrongs, but I think he's able to kind of pay us back by being a great grandpa now. You know what I mean? And I think that's where he's kind of making his piece at. Yeah. Now, when you were young, so you're at that time, the oldest, when did sports start to play a huge role in your life? Always. You know, we're a generation.

We played outside and played everything. You know what I mean? So I was always playing outside, playing something. But I lettered in four sports, football, basketball, baseball, baseball, track in high schools and all-American at football, volleyball and basketball. And I just knew in one sport I was going to go pro, not to sound conceited. I just, that's, that was my belief. And I think that's what got me through all the ups and downs and bad shit. I was a better football player than I was basketball, but I just kept growing. So at six, eight, I was a receiver. Yeah, I was an all-American,

led the nation in touchdowns. And you were fast. Yeah. And I just never, I didn't see anyone my size in the NFL at that time. And I was, this was before guys were making a jump from like, okay, he's kind of a cool college player. Let's go play in the NFL, like Antonio Gates and those kind of guys. I was earlier than that. So I didn't really see anybody my size doing that. So I'm just like, okay, I'm going to lock in. I'm going to go to UCLA and play basketball. So, you know, just had to really work hard. Obviously ran into some great people that are still friends. I'll tell you right now, if NIL was around, I would have been like Van Wilder. I would have never left UCLA. I loved UCLA. If I could have stayed longer, we weren't getting no money like they are

now. But if I would have got any kind of money like they were getting, I would have, I would still be it. Of course. At a blast. I mean, you probably never got laid. Oh. UCLA was everything. Wait, we're going to get into this. We're going to get into this. Because that's how we're going to end this.

But before we get there, so you get drafted. Drafted. G-League grind. So I had to go to the G-League. And then, man, I got called up to the Clippers in 03, which is the year after I got drafted. And, you know, I was able to make a, you know, a 15-year career after that. But my journey wasn't pretty. You know, the first four years, I kind of bounced around until that Golden State team.

So kind of a year that, you know, you were hanging out with, you know, Baron and our team was kind of my first year. That was my fifth season, but kind of my first year, Willie Pondon put myself on the map. And after that playoff run, I kind of became more of a household name and started making some decent money. And then, you know, went on and played another. Well, you also created a reputation for yourself. Well, I have to. Like, you know what's funny about what me is, I think there's such a huge misconception, because my career caught the beginning of the social media boom.

So people would see me cussaruff out, slap somebody. Oh, he's a thug, he's crazy. But it was really just kind of the competitive nature in me. You know what I mean? And always kind of get, I had a lot of racism when I was younger, because I'm Italian and black. So just a ton of, you're not black enough, you're not white enough.

And my dad said, you have Italian? Oh, we're all half Italian. That sucks. Yeah. So my dad said if they disrespect, fight him. So in third grade, I'm starting to fight kids. I kind of had to fight myself to respect.

And then when I got in the NBA, again, trying to make a name for myself, light skin, tattoos, look at his hair, he must be a punk. So I was getting fried constantly. Well, it's funny because you, everyone has tattoos now, but you were like the first of a fucking tatted up. That's why I thought you were so hot. I was like, oh, if I only knew. And you know, Andy's Italian. And he's Italian, but I didn't know what I felt.

We could have been family. No, I know. It's what I'm saying. She could have been amazing. You know, it could have been more Italian kids. Yes. I know. But no, yeah, you created that sort of persona for yourself.

Tough, tough, you know, I was a guy that... Hold on real quick, it's funny because when we were doing the show and, you know, I'm kind of hearing who's on the show, which was how I made a decision, you know? I didn't know that fucking George Santos was going to be on the show. Otherwise, I probably would have been there. Fucking guy. Sorry.

But anyway, I was like, oh, my God. I'm like, Matt Barnes. When you told me George Santos, I was like, whoa. Hey, you're like, get out of there. It was like, I heard Matt was going to be on the show, when I was, you know, huge Lakers fan, I'm like, oh, shit, I was very excited, but intimidated because I was like, oh, he's probably going to like hate me. He's still like tough and and then we're literally talking about therapy. You know what I mean? We were. Yeah, we're talking

about therapy. We bonded on a different level, bro. Yeah. Oh, shit. You know what I mean? But, you know, I was able to kind of create a niche for myself. You know, I was more of a football player out there, so I didn't mind the physicality, you know, so I kind of created that three and not created it. There's probably other guys that did it first, but kind of just that three, shoot threes and play hard defense. And, you know, that was able to get me through my entire career. Actually, you know, I played 15. I got paid for 17. I retired after we won a championship in 17 because I was missing out on my daddy duties. You know, I just went through a divorce with my ex. And it was just hard to see the boys. And I was missing first, I was missing birthday parties,

plays, all this kind of stuff. I'm just like, I'm not going to be able to get this back. And though I love this game, we finally won a championship, you know, business is doing my business, doing my business doing while I've saved my money. Like I think it's time to make a jump. And what was cool was, again, I got paid for two more years. So I gave myself that two-year window to we'll see what's next. But I know first and foremost. You got paid, but you could retire? I retire.

Yeah. Our contract are guaranteed. Yeah. So they had to pay me. Yeah. So I stepped up as a fake owner. Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Well, we're about to start now. We're about to start the new season. Can I make a guest appearance, please? Yes. Are you kidding? So your brother's the one that got me on, because I remember hearing about it, and I'm, I love the genie. Jeannie and I are really cool.

Yeah. And I didn't, you're playing her. And your brother mentioned something, but I was like, that's right. Kate is playing that. So remember when I came home, like the second day I came home, I'm in my Army coat, Army Green, smoking a joint, and I sent the whole group like a screenshot, like, yo, I'm watching your sister. I was binge watching it. I was watching your show.

It's so fun. But it's so funny you're saying that because we're just, there's a thing this season about a little bit about like having to carry someone's contract and like, you know, fucking up the cap, you know. It's ugly right now. Oh, yeah. I'm running for Jeannie because I know she went, she went to court and tried to stop the sale of the team, obviously, because there's a lot of other shit going on. But I was, I think, man, I'm on the Lakers when Phil's last year because he announced to the team he had cancer. we get Mike Brown the next year but then we get Jimmy

who's Genie's brother was the first one kind of in charge and fucking almost sank the ship entirely and then Jeannie comes and it's funny because the show kind of plays that thing you come and save the day

Jeannie kind of came and saved the day and got the ship back afloat but I was literally on the Laker team during this transition so when I was watching the show I was like yo it's obviously a little bit different but this is the shit

that really happened on this team so it was pretty dope I've had a couple players come with you and be like oh man there's this Like specific things go, I know exactly what that storyline is. I don't understand. I thought the Lakers, I was confused with this sale because they were already bought.

No. They were bought by Mark Walter, the Dodger owner. But then the other percentage. He's in some shit. But Ginny still held her percentage. And the family, but then the family went ahead and sold it to Josh. And to Kushner and to Iger. Yeah.

And Jeannie didn't authorize. her part of the same. And she's supposed to be the final stamp. She's like, I didn't. Did they literally go behind her back? Well? Wait and watch. By the way, I saw you on the show.

On Netflix coming in April. I did it. Okay. When did you start all the smoke? We launched that in probably, what, 18? I retired in 17. And did you launch it as a as a, as a, we didn't know what we were doing to be honest.

No, I know. I was in the midst. Successive has gotten fucking crazy. I was in the midst of, I was working to ESPN, Stackley. working at Fox and we were both just getting good feedback. You guys are good at this. You guys are real. Everything you were on the court you are now. And I was just like, dope. And I was just like, well, let's, how do we take it to another level? Because I want to smoke weed on TV. That was really what I was like, I want to smoke weed on TV. I want to be the first athlete to smoke

weed on TV. And Jack's like, shit, I'm in. That was the goal when we started. I didn't know what a podcast was at the time. I mean, I just knew there was a little bit more leniency because I was working for Disney. He was working for Fox. Like we couldn't do every time I'd say a cussword, people would laugh and then to say, man, please try to use different language. I'm just like, fuck, okay. So, you know, I pitched them the idea, and then I'm always, I'm the behind the scenes guy. I'm a builder.

I'm a creator. So I went and, you know, met some people and just started building out this theme. And it turned into, you know, kind of a cornerstone of what a space that's very saturated now, which is really cool. Do you smoke, you just smoke weed and talk about basketball, like, we talk about everything. I mean, we started in the basketball space. Everyone on that deal, Amazon. We've had a lot of different. Do you smoke weed with the president?

I asked. I think they actually edit that part out, but I asked. I'm not going to lie. And we don't smoke weed with everyone now. Like with Snoop, with Wiz, it's like kind of selective. Oh, I love Whiz. You know, I had one of the great airplane rides from London with Wiz Khalifa of all time. And I read his cards.

Oh, you. He's a terrible card. He's a dope dude. I love Whiz. He's the best. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, we're selective, obviously.

but I think we went from a sports show to just a cultural show. Like we just had Obama about a month ago. We had his wife last year. She's so great. We just had Danny DeVito, which is crazy. That's funny. Had Will Ferrell. Did he smoke weed?

He said he used to do a lot of stuff. Did Will, but did not with you. No, not with us. No. I want him to get him, though. I want to get him too. You know what's crazy? I'm a functional.

I used to smoke before I played. You know what I mean? So I'm just someone that can manage with it. Is that legal? It wasn't when I. It is now, but it wasn't when I. Is it now? Yeah, they stopped testing in the bubble.

So what was that? Oh yeah. During COVID, yeah, yeah, five, six years ago. So you're, do you ever take, like, times off? I'm off right now,

but I went to a family reunion like two weeks ago when I came home and I wasn't feeling one. I went to the ER. I had tonsillitis, um, um, tonsillitis,

the flu and, um, strep throat. Oh, like, did I get all that. So I, I've took in,

went to the ER. I was in the air for like three or four hours. Um, so I haven't, So I haven't smoked since I've been. So it's almost been two weeks. That's crazy for you. I know.

That's good. How does it feel? Not lovely. Can you eat? Yeah. I mean, I can do whatever I want. You know, I can right now, but I'm really kind of just since I haven't smoked in two weeks. I'm going to see how long I can push it.

Yeah. That's good. All right. That's good. That's good. You guys meet. Your bromance begins. Well, first of all, why did you even decide to do the show?

I wanted to see because, you know, you got to think some of my kids don't even know what daddy did. Like my seven-year-old starting to get. you get on you till like daddy you almost fought Kobe that's you right i'm like yeah you know so he you know that you know but some of so you know my step kids my step kids weren't born when i played you know what i mean i'm 10 year or they didn't know you know so i just didn't know what daddy so i just kind of wanted to personally kind of show my kids that i still daddy still kind of the shit but i really to me more than anything i just wanted to prove to myself mentally that i can do it because i haven't been mentally challenged in so long like media space is a whole different ball game and you know obviously

I got to do my homework and watch film like I did in the pros, but it's not a physical challenge. So I wanted to be mentally and physically challenged just to see if I could still do it. I wasn't really familiar with the show when my agency brought it to me, so I started watching it. And I'm like, I think this would be a cool challenge. I mean, outside of obviously meeting a bunch of cool people. And to me, the best times were at the end of the nights when we were just sitting and telling our stories and talking and relating and being vulnerable and people are crying and Candace is praying. And it was just a cool situation. But then obviously those physical challenges were physical.

You know what I mean? And me being as big as I was, that shit was not easy. Yeah. No, I mean, it's crazy. Did you? The claustrophobia one? That one scared me to death. Because I did it before Matt did.

I was the last one. His last one, I'm thinking, oh, he's not going to fucking make it. It was so. I can barely get through it. What was it? Yeah. So we had to go down in these tunnels and dig. And I got, I was at a point where Oliver, I think I told you when I was done,

but I was sprawled out forward. and I had to wiggle my way through this area. I couldn't even have my hands at the size how tight it was. That still kind of scares me to this day that I couldn't believe that I just went through that. It was a lot. I'm out. No. And by the way, and by the way, they're blowing off the huge mortars as your explosions are going on.

Dirt's falling in the ton. I'm thinking it's going to collapse on me. And they like, don't. Yeah. Someone's going to die in that show at one point. No, I know. I might have to edit that part out. I almost going to go down at one point on that show.

I think so. Because I, like you, you, you know, you're an expressive person, Ollie. But like, when you were like, no, you understand like, it was nuts. It was like, oh, that's. Well, he, he and Charvei had the, we got stuck in quicksand on the side of a river that had crocodiles in it. And then the quicksand was like up to our waist. And I'd like really thought like, yo, we're going to have to spend the night here.

I'm not fucking dying. There was no, there was no, there to help us. There was no one there to help. And we had to. You know, it was crazy. So we're blowing our whistles and we think we're getting whistle responses, but they're birds mimicking our sound. So it wasn't even people.

They finally found us when the sun would like the, it was dusk. But I wasn't going to stay in that shit. Like they had to help pull him out. I got myself out of that shit. We had a compass. We didn't know how to use that fucking shit. So we're going back. We're on this marshland.

And me and Dave tried to go back and find where the fuck we need to go and we got completely lost. And then he wanted to swim across the river that. I knew crocodiles. I'm not fucking swam. This is not, I'm not dying on this show. Yeah.

And the next thing I know, we're walking close to the river and then we just start sinking. And like, it was all the way up to my waist. Oh my God. And the camera man. Camer man.

And you know the crazy part was I got out. I was trying to help the cameraman. And I wasn't allowed to help them. So they literally had to, this dude was up to here. I'm like, bro, you don't want no help.

They said, I can't, you can't help me. I'm like, what the fuck you're about to sit. You're going to get swallowed by this shit. It was crazy, bro. That is insane.

And then how long was it until you got... It was like a two-hour thing, three-hour thing? And I had to wait. Everyone else was back. Yeah, because he was the head of the group. He was the head of the group. He was the head of group. I was the head of group.

I was the head of group. I was the head of group. I'm waiting for my guys that I, like, sent. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, that would... Yeah. That shit was real.

This would have been... But I got dinged for sending them. Like, the Q was just like, why didn't you the fuck go down there and you're the leader? No, no, no. I was like, I was like, I'm a liability.

I was like, I'm too tired. I'm like, I can't. No, that shit was funny. And then you guys come up. And I remember you guys are so exhausted. Now it's dark and the headlights are shining at us. And it's raining and we're muddy. We've got camo.

And I remember thinking, I know how tired we all are, especially them. But this looks probably cool of shit right now. It's like platoon. Yeah, it was like this guy looks good. I was like kissing. I was like, water's dripping off. I was like, damn. I wanted to fuck someone up, but I didn't have no energy to even like swing on nobody.

Like I was burnt. Well, it was amazing that you stayed, dude. Like I, because we got to the compound late. The physical really created sort of the openness in the barracks. You know what I mean? Because you're busting your ass. And also don't you like go through that crazy sort of thing in the beginning where you talk about my personal thing. Yeah.

Well, you do that you do the interviews and all that stuff. Yeah. You first get there and it's like there's shitters next to each other and showers. Everyone's like, oh, I'm not going to shit I think I might have broke the code. I think I might have been the first one to take a shit. Yeah, yeah. Like you can't, like, you see me sitting down, you just see my upper body

and I'm like, are you guys going to hold it for a week? I'm just like, we're not going to. But after two days, everyone's like, oh, it doesn't matter. Girls have bites all over them. They're wearing their underwear everywhere. Like, dudes don't, you just stop giving a shit at all. Anything. You know. Well, it sounds like a great experience.

But the worst is like, the worst part is you need buddy to go to the bathroom. So if it at night, I'm like, oh, yeah, we saw scorpions, cobras. I gotta go pee. He's like, but I started cheating. I just, well, I didn't want to wake people up. I would just go outside and pee right outside the doorstep. That's what I did too. I'd go all the left and just piss out. That was the piss corner. That was the thing. That's what they need is they need like the, you know, big brother kind of, you know, videos cameras. Oh, that's how I was. Mm-hmm. Oh, there's cameras inside of the... There's cameras everywhere.

There's cars in the barracks. There's never a time we're not in camera. There's cameras everywhere. I cannot wait. Even when you're just sitting in bed talking, there's cameras everywhere. Do you think that Oliver is going to be edited positively or negatively? I think it's going to be real.

Really? Because everyone, we were all bitching about certain things. So I don't think that negative. I mean, they might show some of that. If you understand what we went through and they really show we went through, you're going to understand why we had our gripes. Yeah. I mean, but for the most part, he was positive and encouraging and giving life stories and

telling, you know, life issues and everyone kind of broke in. You might have been the one that kind of cracked to make everyone kind of really feel comfortable enough to like really share shit because I think everyone was kind of wanted to share, but a little reserved. But I remember you went deep. And it kind of opened the door for everyone else to go deep, which I thought was good for us. Yeah, yeah.

That's so fun. Okay. Let's just speed round. Okay. When you first met the cast, who did you expect to be the biggest winner? Me. who looked like they were going to talk the biggest game Oh

Probably David Yeah David but then it turned out to be a little calling Who tried to talk to big game He almost got beat up a couple times I had to pull him to the side Well you know it's so funny is like All the dudes

You know me Matt and Dave separately Without even knowing it Had to step up to him and say hey He had been in the Marines before So he thought he was fucking G.I. Joe Trying to tell everyone went through it was like Bruch shit your fucking ass down to listen to me for a second, bro.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great kid, but, you know, he, by the way, he had it rough. Yeah. The Goslins, like the, the, John and Kate Plus 8. Oh, yeah. One of the kids from that family. Oh, he's one of the kids. Yeah.

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Please join us at Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your podcasts. Hope you join us. I'll see you there, friend. Okay, who had the most, I'm not built for this energy? I would think, no, I don't think, I think it was Candice. Who surprised you by being way tougher than they looked? Um, I don't know if it's, I think all the women.

Yeah. Because the women had to go through the same shit, carry the same heavy bags as we did, and they held it down. So I would just say, shout out to all the women on the show. They were tough. It's amazing. Yeah. And by the way, so a couple of them were tiny. That's what I'm saying.

Super small. Yeah. So great. So the women. I was impressive Bree too. Yeah, Bree was tough. She was tough as shit. Yeah.

Yeah. You'd think like selling sunset, oh, whatever, but that's tough. She was tough. I loved her, by the way. She was great. Who is the most likely to try to negotiate their way out of an exercise? Oliver? Maybe your brother?

Yeah. I was like, come on, guys. Maybe or maybe not? We really need to do this. Who have the biggest I know better than the instructor's attitude? Call on. Easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who would you trust most to have your back in a fight? Oliver. He might be able to talk us out. I don't know if he's going to fight. No, no, I'll talk us. I think, guys, what are we really doing here? You know what I mean? I would trust his navvick.

I would just, if you had to pick something up and hit someone or talk our way out of something, I would trust out. He's the mediator. Yeah, I could, I'll hit someone and run. Okay, last question. Who had the biggest transformation from celebrity to recruit? Well, I mean, Max, Max was the man. Like, he was great. Yeah, he was an Olympic ice skater, right?

Yeah, he was a figure skater. Oh, oh, yeah. A helicopter crash. Yeah. Unbelievable. By the way, his stories. Incredible. When we were all talking around, and he was telling his story.

I mean, he was feeling. everything he was saying. He wasn't just telling a story. His face is down. A helicopter crash. After the, of the Potomac. Yeah. Well, were they in the plane?

Yeah, there were, in the plane. It was a plane. It was a plane carrying. Yeah. Yeah. All of the U.S. National coaches and shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he was, he was an amazing kid. Like, he was gritty. Yeah. But I would probably say maybe, was it Bree? It was kind of,

She wasn't really boogie, was she? Not really, boozy. She was kind of bad ass. You know, like Alexia, like... She was tough. And she was, you know, if you look at her Instagram, she's like, Majorca's amazing, but it cannot wait for a beastie.

You know who was really... You know who was really funny. I love you. Hannah, no. I like, by the way, she's... That sounds fun. It sounds like that kind of girl. Hannah, too, was tough of shit, too.

And she got ripped. She was the one. She was the one. She was the one. whipping dog the whole time. Oh my God. But took it what's had such great spirit and energy and took it. She was fun, man.

It was really fun. I didn't like what we were doing, but I liked the group I was with. All right. All right. Real quick. What do you get into now? Man, all the smoke productions. We're taking on some money and expanding.

You know, we're in basketball. We're about to launch football. We just launched baseball, which is going great. We're in boxing MMA. What does this mean? So I'm a production company. So we're just, I'm building a digital network pretty much. So, you know, we know that Lendium.

years kind of on its way out. So just digital is we're building a digital network. But you got any good infusion of capital. We just took some, yeah, we're taking some money in right now. We're going to launch a political realm. We're launching a golf and music. So hopefully by the end of the year, man, we'll have a full running head to toe production, multimedia. And is this like over multiple different sort of things? Like is it a podcast? Is it television? Shows. Ducks. Live shows. Live shows. Live shows. Live. streaming, like you name it. Just a big multimedia, digitally multimedia coming.

Yeah. And then just dad, you know, all my kids. I love it. You know, my, I'm fat to my baby boys. Aren't babies no more. And as sensitive his ears, I remember you're telling me. He goes, I think you've only cried once in your life. Yeah, man.

No, when I was younger, since I've been older, I haven't been able to cry. Yeah. So that might be the time. Yeah. I remember talking about it. Oh, you got a cry. I know. I know a good cry is good for everybody.

You need, like, a good ugly cry. It's not everything. Like a fetal position, like wailing. We're going to smoke and we'll just cry together. Just do some ayahuasca and shit on ourselves. Which, by the way, I do want to do. By the way, have you not done ayahuasca? Okay.

Let's do it. Then you will cry. I'm good with that. I want to do something like that. I've been talking about even last night with a friend. I don't know about you and I was a dose of psilocybin. You should do a hero dose of mushrooms. I don't think you should do I-A-Wastca.

I do a hero doses of mushrooms all the time. I'm good with that. You probably can handle an ayahuasca. Toad. I'm hearing Toad. I'm hearing an ayahuasca. Oh, yeah, the little poisonous to. The I've a game.

That's like crazy. I'm down. I don't know if I want to go to the jungle because I have PTSD from Malaysia. I know. Let's find somebody. You've seen those videos though where the guy's like freaking out of the water? Yeah, I just saw that one. Dude, that's trippy though.

What on the toad? I don't know what he was on. It's something. It was just like Peru. man who's like holding him and putting him in the water like spazzing out I'm like this doesn't look good but I need that kind of purge you know what I mean like it's it's a lot of life going on if you want the purge just do ayahuasca okay that'll clean me up yeah don't worry yeah the toad is quick yeah oh so you're an expert yeah I've done a few but now I'm like really super clean

okay but I've done everything I need that I like psychedelics I I used to be a little psychedelic warrior. And I find that like, I just, I think that what happens is it becomes cultish. So people start to like do psychedelics and ayahuasca. And the next thing you know, they're like going on these ayahuasca journeys and they're doing this. And I'm like, okay, now you're like, now it's too much. Yeah. I want to be able to come back to life. But I definitely feel like I need one of those cleansings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would actually be a good podcast just to get like a psych, I actually have a friend who's like a psychedelic. He like does journeys and takes you through things. That'd be I'm down. I'm down. Let's do that. Let's do it. I want to go on the journey.

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