Somewhere in the Skies - Disclosure Day Early Reactions, Pentagon UFO Files Release Breakdown & June 9 Capitol Hill UAP Event

Episode Date: June 1, 2026

The second batch of Pentagon UFO files has arrived. Ryan and Suzanne break down the most intriguing discoveries. From military videos and NASA astronaut audio to historical documents involving mysteri...ous green fireballs near nuclear facilities, they separate the genuinely compelling cases from the noise and discuss whether these latest releases bring us any closer to understanding the UAP mystery. They also examine a remarkable firsthand account from a senior intelligence official describing an extended orb encounter over a sensitive military installation. The duo also discusses a breaking announcement that David Grusch, members of Congress, journalists, and disclosure advocates will gather on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on June 9 to push for greater UAP transparency. Plus, they share early reactions to Steven Spielberg’s upcoming film Disclosure Day and explore what its focus on experiencers could mean for the broader public conversation surrounding UFOs and disclosure. Check out the latest UFO videos and files at: https://showmeufos.com/ Follow Dan Warren: https://linktr.ee/5thPillarofEmphasis?utm_source=linktree_profile_share&ltsid=4e072fcd-756b-4190-97f9-3a2cd46fecf9 Use promo code: SOMEWHERE15 for 15% OFF Anomalous Cards: https://www.letsgetanomalous.com/ Send us a voicemail with questions, comments, or topic suggestions: https://www.speakpipe.com/SomewhereSkiesPod Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/somewhereskies ByMeACoffee: http://www.buymeacoffee.com/UFxzyzHOaQ Substack: https://ryansprague.substack.com/ All socials and books: https://linktr.ee/somewhereskiespod Follow Suzanne on X: https://x.com/csuzannelanders Email: ryan.sprague51@gmail.com Opening theme song by Septembryo Copyright © 2026 Ryan Sprague. All rights reserved. #DisclosureDay #Disclosure #UFOFiles #UFOVideos #UAP #StevenSpielberg #WashingtonDC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:03 ryan sprague welcome to somewhere in the skies live i am one of your hosts ryan sprag thank you for joining us tonight guys we're going to be breaking down the latest UFO file and video released by the Pentagon. Batch 2 has come out. Some say it's better. Some say it's worse. Some say it's somewhere in between. But we're going to break down some of the highlights that we found in this thing tonight
Starting point is 00:02:39 with you guys. We wanted to let it simmer. Let it marinate a little bit. So we could really let the cream rise to the top, as they say, and get you some of the stuff we found most interesting. out of that. We have a breaking story that just dropped within the last couple hours about an event that's going to be happening in Washington, D.C. on June 9th. So you do not want to miss that. Sounds pretty interesting. We'll be covering that in just a few minutes and we'll also be reading
Starting point is 00:03:09 some early reactions to Disclosure Day. I'm getting all excited. I'm hiccuping already. But that's right Disclosure Day, Stephen Spielberg's big epic event movie is coming out on June 12th in the United States. And I'm going to be seeing it on the 10th. We get it early here in the UK. So you bet your boots. I'm going to be having a fun review episode coming out on that. But we have some early reactions to the movie that we're going to share with you guys tonight. It sounds like it's going to be a lot different than we thought it was going to be. Is that good? Is that bad?
Starting point is 00:03:51 We're going to discuss that tonight. We'll break down some of the early reactions and some of the elements and themes that were pulling out of those reviews. I think that'll be really cool as we head into the week of this movie that is being touted as Spielberg's best movie in the last 20 years. That is so exciting. I cannot wait. A little behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I was going to fly to New York City to see Disclosure Day in just a few days. They were doing a super advanced screening in Union Square in New York City, but it doesn't look like I'm going to be making it. Maybe it's still possible. Cross their fingers. I'm waiting to hear out a couple things before that happens. But no matter what, I'll be seeing it on the 10th here in the UK, and then it'll come out on the 12th in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:04:42 And then we will do a movie review episode of Disclosure Day. But let's get to actual UFO disclosure, shall we? We're going to be talking about all that stuff that I mentioned. But before we bring in our lovely co-host, Suzanne Landers, super chat and super stickers are open. We truly do appreciate any support you guys are willing to do for us here at HQ. There's so many unforeseen costs that go with doing these live streams. and all of that.
Starting point is 00:05:14 We had to tighten the old belt, and we're no longer streaming on Twitter right now. We got rid of our Twitter premium, and apparently you need that to stream over on Twitter live. So if you want to help us get the live she's back on Twitter, you can help with the super chat. That would truly go a very long way. We will highlight your super chats and your super stickers.
Starting point is 00:05:35 We have a goal of five tonight. So if we reach that goal, we will celebrate in fashion some way, somehow. We truly do appreciate that. And before I forget, another big way you can help on the show, if it can't help us out monetarily, rate and review this summer in the skies podcast on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And when you do that, in your review on Apple or in your comments over on Spotify,
Starting point is 00:06:01 when this episode goes on the podcast, put these code words in. And we will know that you watched or listened and we will shout you out. on the next episode. So your key words for this week for your Apple podcast reviews and Spotify comments is Disclosure Day. It's pretty self-explanatory why we decided to do that. So again, head out over to Apple Podcasts and put Disclosure Day somewhere in your review, make it fun, make it creative, or just write Disclosure Day. I don't care. Or on Spotify, somewhere in your comment under this episode, put disclosure to it.
Starting point is 00:06:43 We do appreciate that. It's not just for fun, to be completely honest, guys. Every time you comment on Spotify or you leave a rating and review on Apple, it boosts us up. It gets us featured on like the front page of Apple, on the front page of Spotify. We were on the front page of Spotify just, gosh, I don't know, a few weeks ago, maybe we made it on there.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And it's because of you guys. for commenting and rating over on Spotify. And same with Apple. We've reached number one several times in the past couple years. We were in the top 30 of science just a few weeks ago too. So help us climb that ladder once again and get up there with, you know, these big UFO shows that are funded and have these big sets and can travel all over and interview, you know, people and do all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:36 We don't have any corporate backing. or anything like that. It's just us, microphones, stream yard, and a prayer. That's for sure. So thank you in advance for anything you can do. Disclosure Day are your keywords. Okay. I think we're ready to bring in our co-host for tonight
Starting point is 00:07:57 who's going to be helping us break everything down. You know her. You love her. It is the one, the only. Suzanne Landers, welcome back. Hi, I'm so glad for us to be back. What a couple of weeks. We did not live stream last week, didn't. No, he didn't. I was in London. Everybody's hair was on fire. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah, I was in London for Comic-Con. It was so much fun. It looked like it was fun. I was so glad you got to do it. It was, yeah, it was a blast. I got the meets of some people dressed up as wrestlers and they had a big Star Wars thing after just seeing, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:37 Grogu and the Mandalorian, that was pretty cool. That was pretty cool as well. Suzanne, you'll have to forgive me. Before I forget, Anomalous Cards, our sponsor. Yes. I forgot to shout them out. Do you mind if I do that quick? Go for it.
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Starting point is 00:11:39 I love that. You can't make that stuff up. It's so cool. You really can. You really can. How are you doing? What's new in your world before we get to the beginning? Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:11:48 What isn't new in my world? As most of you know, my husband and I are moving across the country permanently to Santa Bay, leaving Memphis. And so I am here in Santa Fe, and I've been working my little tail end off, trying to get this house ready for what's coming with movers. And you see me now in my new office here in the Santa Fe House. So finally all set up. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And it's really good to give this all a test. Computer stuff is not my forte in terms of how do you connect this to that and where's the sound for whatever. But I've done it. Figured it out. Figured it out. Oh, man. Yeah, we've both been super busy. But we want to thank you guys for spending your Friday evening afternoon with us.
Starting point is 00:12:33 tonight. I know it's getting late here in the UK. So we'll get to the news. We'll get to the news, I promise. So you brought this to my attention within an hour before we went live here. So I hurriedly got as much information as I could. There's not much out there. But this is through the Associated Press, which is huge. That that's where the story started. It wasn't on some weird-ass, you know, UFO website or Twitter. I just start assessing about the lack of value of these government documents coming out. Think about things like this that are softer but important. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Imagine doing this except when they're being bombarded with evidence from the government. Exactly. Exactly. I know. It always comes out on a Friday, though. It does, doesn't it? Always comes out on Friday. And everybody, we've learned the hard way.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You've got to let it sit a minute. You know, Ryan and I both two times now have been scrambling trying to get through these documents. in a way that we can sort of synopsize them for you, and it's not doable because what has to happen is all the science folks and the tech folks have to get out there and start doing their work to figure out, is this legit? Is this explainable by conventional means? And so just from this point on, it's probably a good idea just to not expect us to hit the airwaves immediately. We let it settle a little bit and study and listen and watch and read. And so we'll see what happens to the next batch. Yeah, if there is a next batch, we'll see. Right. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, so this story broke just a couple hours ago, like you mentioned, and it involves all the people you see in this image, the horribly generated AI versions of them. Some look like them, some don't. But if you're watching this on YouTube, you've got Congress members, Timberchette, Burlinson and Apollina Luna and Jared Moscovich on the left. Then on the right, you've got investigative journalists, documentarians, James Fox and Leslie Kane. And then you got David Grush. And this is interesting. There is going to be an outdoor press event at the Capitol on the steps of the Capitol happening June 9th, Suzanne. Now, here's what I got from this.
Starting point is 00:14:56 news report. Amid a surge of global interest in UAP, an unprecedented coalition of senior government officials, members of Congress, whistleblowers, journalists, and civilian advocates will gather on the steps of the U.S. Capitol on June 9th to call for greater transparency from the federal government. The bipartisan event will serve as a direct appeal to President Donald J. Trump and Congress to accelerate the release of classified UAP records in advanced legislation aimed at public disclosure. At the center of this gathering will be former intelligence officer and UAP whistleblower David Grush, who was previously testified under oath before Congress.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And let's see here under Congress, Grush is expected to outline specific evidence related to UAPs and alleged non-human intelligence programs that he encountered within highly classified government channels, while arguing that many of these records can now be released without compromising legitimate national security interests. The event follows President Trump's declassification directive, which has already led to the release of government records that have attracted extraordinary public attention worldwide. Representatives Berlinson, Moskowitz, Polina Luna, Purchette are expected to be there to advocate for passage of the UAP Disclosure Act. Stronger protections for whistleblowers and greater international cooperation on the issue.
Starting point is 00:16:30 The event is being hosted by Leslie Kane and James Fox. And the press conference aims to build momentum for what organizers described as a historic push toward government transparency. That was basically the whole AP news press release. But what do you think about this kind of storming the steps at the Capitol, as it were? I think that's exactly what they're doing. And you're watching the next level of push or pressure on our government to continue it. No one, no one I know is satisfied with what has been released so far by our government.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Not a single human. I don't know one. Maybe you all know one. But I think what you're watching, especially from Mr. Grush, is some pressure on the president who said he was going to do this. So TikTok, let's get it done. And it looks like the right crowd to support him, with Leslie Kane and the appropriate congressional people. So I'm glad I don't have to be there.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I think it's going to be extremely warm that day on the steps of the Capitol. I think they must have had trouble getting like an official room or something, which can happen. But I think, you know, we tune in. We see what gets said. I think it's interesting that they feel, compelled for Grush to talk again, is he going to say something more than what's in his congressional hearing, you know, the congressional testimony? Maybe. I hope so. I hope so. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I do wonder that. Like, what new will Grush have to say at this event? And why is it not happening in a more official way? You know, I have, I think it's cool. Like, I always, it brings me back to, I think it was in the 80s. They had like these disclosure advocates out there with like signs like and UFO secrecy. There's like classic images of that. I've even made of like my wallpaper and stuff. And I love that kind of grassroots effort thing where it's like outside the the gates of the White house and stuff like that because you know what? You will get a lot of passerbyes who'll be like, hmm, what's going on here? I'm going to stop and listen. And that's what I, That's what I think they're hoping with this event.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But my fear is that it will look like these events in the 80s or only like five people show up. And it gets covered on the news as like a joke. Now, the people involved make me think that won't happen. Right. Surely they can get a decent audience there. And, you know, if they can't, whether. I'm not sure what that means. You know, they ought to, there ought to be people around who are really, especially whistleblowers
Starting point is 00:19:21 who are in that area, somewhere in the east, easy to get to D.C. From wherever they are, they need to be standing there. They need to be standing. But how many times, Ryan, have we talked about the importance of the UAPDA? Until that gets passed and these whistleblowers are protected and an official system for handling it carefully and responsibly is in place, we're not going to make any real progress other than whatever we can put together the documents they drip out or whatever we're in the same hole you know right right yeah i you know and i think i think it's smart that they're doing this on june 9th because again you have the second batch of
Starting point is 00:20:04 UFO files just dropped which we'll be talking about uh disclosure day comes out on the 12th so like you're riding this wave of quote unquote the UFO disclosure and you have these people advocating for transparency. Yes. And don't forget, Ryan, the Disclosure Foundation has its huge day symposium in the Kennedy Spring of the Capitol on June 25th. So all of this is in lockstep. It appears to be.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Thank you for bringing that up. I completely almost overlooked that. We have that event as well. So it's a month. Right. Or month and a half of like just a lot of this stuff. So I don't think this is. going to hurt, you know, if at all.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Yeah, they're doing it outside. It doesn't seem like there's any sort of money that needs to fund this. Like, you can't. It's free to walk outside and be on the steps of the Capitol. Right. Someone live stream was up. Right. Boom.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Boom. So all the luck to him. You know, James Fox has never been one to shy away from, you know, sort of these bold, audacious attempts. Look at the Brazilian thing he did just a few months ago that we covered. So yeah, good luck to them. I really do. I hope it goes well. I hope it goes well.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Yeah. I think it will. They'll be prepared. It's a good group. You're right. You're right. I see we have some new people in the chat. Welcome. Someone said that they are a replay. What is it? A replay veteran or something like that. They watch the replays of the YouTube. So thank you for being here.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Andrew, we've got, we've got Bill here. Tanya's here. Hi, Tanya. Thanks for the comment on the office. I appreciate that. Yes, beautiful. Very kind. Jay Allen's here.
Starting point is 00:21:52 Thank you guys. Like I said, we're not streaming on Twitter. So numbers might look a little low here, but that's why. So yeah, guys, share the show. Yeah, the live stream right here on YouTube where our lovely live chat is. Because we don't have those Twitter numbers coming in to drive them over to YouTube. So share it. Post it right now on your, you know, you can share the episode.
Starting point is 00:22:13 right on your YouTube channel. And on your social media, we truly would appreciate that. I want to cover next Disclosure Day. Is that cool? I'm so excited. And I'm just so jealous that you get to go a day early. Two days early. Can you believe that?
Starting point is 00:22:32 You might see me pop into the seat beside you eating your popcorn there in Edinburgh. Take the flight over. You've got a place to stay. So jealous. This happened back when. Star Wars Force Awakens, the new, when Disney started doing Star Wars, that came out early and I just happened to be in England when it was premiering. So I got to see it a couple days earlier than everyone. You know, it's cool, but sometimes it's the other way. We won't get things still like weeks or months
Starting point is 00:23:01 after the U.S. So it is what it is. But some early- When it comes down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But there are people who have already seen the movie. You know, all these press critics get early screenings. A lot of the times movie critics on like YouTube and stuff get early screenings. I was just watching Andy McGillen over on his show. Apparently he's seeing it before anyone. I don't know how that's possible.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Oh my gosh. That guy. He's everywhere. Yeah. The dude is just. It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But he's going to even see it before. I am. So that's cool. Not jealous one bit. Not one bit. Not at all. But yeah, the reviews are coming in, Suzanne. And I know this is small on your screen.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I'm going to read some highlights from some of the reviews. But good Lord, is it nothing but positive? Which I'm, it really put my mind at ease. So, again. A lot of these come from the bigger movie review places. I'm not going to read it all, but for those listening, we do have the full reviews by these people up on your screen here. I'm going to read some highlights.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So the first one here comes from Stephen Winthrop over a collider, and he says, in a shock to absolutely no one, Spielberg has delivered another towering home run with Disclosure Day. Emily Blunt is incredible. I know big summer movies aren't usually the kinds of performances that get award season attention, but once people see what she does in this movie, dot, dot, dot. So that's the first one. Slash film Bill Brea says,
Starting point is 00:24:59 Disclosure Day is the weirdest movie Spielberg's ever made. Breatthaking compositions, David Cope's X-Files meets the Bible script is one thing, one high wire act and Emily Blunt's most accomplished performance, John Williams' best score in years, riveting, moving stuff. So I want to stop there first, Suzanne, and get your thoughts. He said X-Files meets the Bible. What do you think that means? It actually excites me because, you know, when I am up in the night spinning around on the impact of potential ontological shock, I worry about the religious sector of the planet. And so I'm curious to, to see if they're going to meld it or they're going to cast religion aside, as you often hear
Starting point is 00:25:45 and experiences talk about. I don't know. I'm excited for it, but you know, I'm an Emily Blunt fanatic. I'm like Emily Blunt fanatic. And if you haven't seen her in Mary Poppins returns, stop what you're doing right after the show and go watch that. She is phenomenal. So I'm so excited for her. Wow. And our good friend, Darry, from Osaka's in the chat. And he said, Emily Blunt actually makes those alien noises. Yeah, so she worked with the sound people and, like, trained for weeks on end to get those clicks and your guttural noises.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. You know, she also has an incredible singing voice. She is a bundle of talent wrapped in a tiny package. I don't know her work that well, which is surprising. Watch Mary Poppins returns. I know it's probably not your topic, but just watch the technicality of it and listen to the music. Oh my gosh. Mary Poppins, the original is one of my favorite movies.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yes. You see Mary Poppins returns because it's just as wonderful. Step in time. Step in time. And Dick Van Dyke does have a little part in that. Oh. Oh, my God. That man is a national treasure for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And apparently Emily Blunt. Was she in Devil Wars Prada? Yes, she's the other Emily. That's what I thought. Yeah, because I saw her on the poster. I'm like, she looks like the girl from Disclosure Day. It's all coming together. No, she was also, what's the name of that movie, Ryan,
Starting point is 00:27:19 where everybody had to be silent or the animals would get the... Oh, keep quiet, stay quiet, one of those? Something like that. She's in that. She's amazing. A quiet place? I think that might be. Quiet place.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I think that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Well, yeah, it seems like all these reviewers have nothing but good stuff to say about her.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Here we go. Gizmodos, Germaine says, I loved Disclosure Day, a dense roller coaster ride blending chase film, love story and mystery, all wrapped in sci-fi wonder. It's Spearberg's best film in over 20 years, filled with all the magic that makes this film so special, plus an all-time character performance by Emily Blood. Wow. There you go. Yeah. Love story. Yeah. I was not expecting that.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I was not expecting that. So we're going to get some heart, some true romance. I like that. You think you're going to go the way of what was the movie where the alien is in the water tank and the little gal who... Oh, yeah. What's going to be terrible with movie names? Can you tell?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Maybe that's a love story or I don't know. Or maybe it's just two humans. Who knows? I think we keep seeing, I forget the actor's name in the movie. He played Prince. Charles in that show, The Crown. The Crown, yes. O'Connor, I think.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Maybe so, yeah. He seems to be a big part in the movie, in Emily Blunt, and they both, shape of water. That's the way you're- They seem to both be experiencers. That's what I'm gathering from the trailers. And they're the ones who are kind of going to disclose to the public, it seems like. And it looks like they keep flashing back to the,
Starting point is 00:29:07 them as kids and like on like a craft being abducted and experimented on. I think this is a love story where like two abducted kids as children find each other again later on in life and maybe together. It's like a cosmic love story with disclosure as the backdrop almost. Same trauma, shared trauma. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. Okay. So when I torture you after you go see it to tell me everything, don't. I won't. I promise. Tell me no. I won't spoil anything before anyone else sees it. But we will be doing a full movie review episode. I think I have some guests joining us for that. So I'll keep everyone abreast of that.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Freelance Critics says, Disclosure Day is absolutely phenomenal, truly something special. I was hanging on every word captivated by the story. The score perfectly elevates every single scene. Part mystery, part Twilight Zone, something new entirely. I shed a tear at the end. I shed a tear, they said. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Well, I'm glad to hear this because I kind of need to brace for that. Yeah, absolutely. And then the last review here is praising the Williams score. It's a perfect companion to E.T. and close encounters, they said. And superb performances across the board, but especially Emily Blund. who was wondrous. So. Wondrous. Oh, my gosh. Wondrous. This is awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:42 So I guess, you know, what, what do you want? What do you know? Now, a lot of people, this has been the discussion since this movie was announced, that this is going to be a disclosure of sorts. Now, Spielberg has gone on the record and said, I made close encounters back when we thought this could be true. I made disclosure day because. it is true. And this is what I want out there. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And then he also said, and this one really took me back. He said, none of our marketing, none of the trailers, involve anything that happens in the third act of the movie. Now, even in this final trailer, we saw a full-on alien gray on the craft, like abducting, something was going on. Yes. But that's not even in the third act of the movie. A lot of people think, Suzanne, that there was going to be some sort of actual footage or
Starting point is 00:31:43 information or something real that will contribute to the actual disclosure movement, disclosure event. But I'm not getting that from these reviews. Or maybe they're embargoed not to talk about anything. They may be. I don't know. Hold on that detail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:03 What do you think? Do you think we're going to get any actual information? out of this movie or what do you want or hope out of Disclosure Day? Okay, so I would not be disappointed if it just follows our experiencers, lines of experience, and, you know, sort of serves as a support for that. I would love it if it went that step farther. And he's inserted this, that or the other, that lets you know this came from somewhere important and is real.
Starting point is 00:32:32 But I am not going to be disappointed if it remains in a fiction format. agreed that's where spillberg has always done his best work i'm expecting no sort of government disclosure infused into this movie maybe i did at first i'm not there at all and i could give two shits that's exactly how i feel about it i would love it don't have to have it don't not not going to give a demerit for not having it yeah yeah i mean people on our facebook group are highly active and passionate facebook group are saying like guys there's not going to be any in this, and I do agree with them. However, like, these things have ripple effects.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I mean, Spielberg's movies are seen by billions of people all over the world. So while there might not be any actual disclosure in it, it's going to get a hell of a lot of more people to look into the UFO topic. And think about it. And think about it. But you mentioned, I think, the key thing. And that's the experiencers. Now, I watched an interview.
Starting point is 00:33:36 earlier on Fendango.com with Steven Spielberg and actor Coleman Domingo who plays, it was another actor in this movie, brilliant actor. I love the guy. He seems to be playing some sort of like conspiracy guy, UFO researcher kind of character, which is awesome. We're kind of getting portrayed in this movie through his amalgamated character. but he brought up what is most important in this movie. And guess what his answer was?
Starting point is 00:34:10 What? The experiencers. There you go. I almost shed a tear. He was like... I bet you did. Having spent years doing experiencer stories. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:34:23 And he said, he said, I hope people understand what we're trying to say with this movie. There's some big questions in it, but there's some very small questions that are even more powerful. And he said, there are experiences out there who truly believe these things have happened to them. There are communities of people. There are towns that have had mass UFO settings. And these affect people on a very human level. And he's like, that's the story we're telling. And that just, I was like, I love it. I love it. I think about the movie contact in terms of the
Starting point is 00:34:57 skeptical character that you were mentioning briefly, you know, the guy who ends up botching the the take off when I'm blunt contact contact Jody Foster when she is about to do the first launch
Starting point is 00:35:17 I guess that the Americans are doing and the one naysayer the one big critic gets in there and baches it for everybody I wonder if they'll have a character like that the troublemaker character I guess you know who's always got his foot in the door preventing it from
Starting point is 00:35:33 opening you know i think that character will be played by i think it's colin furth who's kind of he i'm i can't believe i'm saying this he seems like the season goff of the movie he's like the one who's trying to keep the truth hidden yeah government or whatever and he can be a bad guy and he is in mary poppins returns too so see now you've got to go watch that movie tonight okay interesting I'm like Yeah, go ahead. What other thing was you expect anything so that no one's disappointed
Starting point is 00:36:06 and just enjoy the film perhaps. Exactly. People's minds a bit and encourage more questions. Spielberg makes great films. And that's exactly where I am. I'm with you. I'm with you on that one. Then Andrew Berger says,
Starting point is 00:36:20 Coleman Domingo's character seems a bit inspired by career. Oh, this is going to be so funny. We're going to have to put this in part of our review episode once we've seen it. Like, who do we think all these people are? Who do they remind us? I'm just having the real UFO world. We'll cast our own movie.
Starting point is 00:36:37 We'll cast our own set. That's right. Sean brought up a good point. Contact is the perfect triangle of science, politics, and religion. I just rewatch both contact and arrival recently. Oh, a lot of arrival.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Oh, arrival is in my top three movies of all time. Mine too. So is contact. Contact is up there for me. But I do agree. It is the perfect melding of spiritualism, science, and politics.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I think it all blends beautifully in that film, for sure. And that's certainly our reality today, isn't it? It is. It is. It is. Yeah, we're not, we're not going to go into aliens.gov tonight. I saw you guys talking about it in chat. Let's give it no air.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. It does not deserve one ounce of air. So on we roll. It's not news. Not at all. Okay, but let's get to some actual news. This spring, denim gets a softer, lighter update. Introducing Old Navy's drapey denim wide leg, a new fit that moves with you.
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Starting point is 00:38:55 head over to patreon.com slash somewhere skies. That's patreon.com slash somewhere skies. Or hit that subscribe button right at the top of your Apple podcast feed. Thank you so much for listening, for supporting, and as always, keep looking up. The second batch of UFO files have released, Suzanne. It came quick. It came on a Friday. And it came while I was freaking, you know, coming back.
Starting point is 00:39:29 back or going to Comic-Con, I don't remember. But we let it simmer for a little bit, and we've compiled some of the highlights from it that we're going to break down with you guys here right now. But as usual, you came to me with this awesome compilation of everything we got. So what was released in the second trench or batch? We got 64 total records. We got 50 videos, which is pretty big a month. out. Seven audio files. Six documents from the CIA, O'D and I, Department of Energy, and Department of
Starting point is 00:40:08 War. Finally, I know, on DOE. I'm sure that's the one you're talking about. It is, but finally we're the new folks are in. Yeah, the ones who never share. Ever. Yeah. And the five agencies represented throughout these were DOE, W, CIA, O'DNI, DOE, and. NASA. So that's kind of the big broader picture, but what I think we should do is go through the videos first, a couple of the most compelling videos.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So for those of you watching on YouTube, this is more for you guys. If you're listening to this on the podcast, we'll try to describe a little bit of what's going on in the videos, but I would highly suggest coming over to YouTube and watching the video version of this episode for the full effect. But the big thing
Starting point is 00:40:59 before I show these videos and we go through these files and whatnot. The war.gov website is awful. It's terrible. It's truly terrible. Awful. And it has to be by design. There is no way that this happened. If this was an accident, who is running this program? Because it is a disaster.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yeah, yeah, some interns, I'm sure, I'm sure. That's also one of the reasons. why we wait a minute because very quickly there are good folks in our community who take all those documents, they download them immediately to their own computer systems, and they set up websites that are much more search-friendly and much better organized than what our government is doing. Right. One of those is John Greenwald of the Black Vault. He has a very good searchable website. But the one we're using, the one you brought to my attention, I cannot recommend enough. It is the most cohesive, easiest, cleanest, most searchable one I found so far.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You found so far, excuse me. And that is go me, UFOs.com. I put a link in the show notes as well, but they do such a good job of breaking down the videos, you know, the files. Yes, well, first I break them down between videos, audio, paper docs, you know, which is just that step alone, it incredibly better. Yeah. Like you said, it's a way for us to hyperfocus and try to make sense when the war.gov one is just like a freaking war zone.
Starting point is 00:42:43 The Department of War website is a war zone. There we go. It is. It's a mess. But let's go through these videos first. The first one I want to share was titled Spherical UAP over AFG, which I believe is Afghanistan. I think so. Okay. In and out of clouds, November 2020. And this, every video is prefaced with this, which bothers me. Arrow assesses that this video whose uploader defined title is blah, blah, blah, spherical UFO is likely derived from an infrared sensor aboard U.S. military platform operating systems. A user uploaded this video to a classified network in June of 2024. The media was digitally, altered prior to its upload to a classified network and is presented as you see almost every single
Starting point is 00:43:35 video Suzanne says that it was digitally altered it was uploaded by one person or whatever on these platforms so i'm like okay we have no data we have no idea who up no metadata yeah no metadata it was digitally altered what like what is that yeah you can't authenticate anything like you would with who took this video kind of question It's just a mess. I don't know. I know that for some of them, it's probably appropriate in terms of national security to take some of that way. But it's bothersome to me because even in like the federal courtrooms, if you're redacting a document, there's a process that says what was redacted, not the substance, but I redacted X for, you know, I redacted 10 seconds of video for, you know, I redacted 10 seconds of video for, military concerns or whatever. And you do these rosters of those things. And nothing here.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Just dump it, redact it. Everybody good luck. Whatever. You got it. Be happy. Be happy. We're done here. TikTok.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You know, but either way, like, it's frustrating. But some of these videos were compelling. I know there have already been some explanations and debunks for some of them. I might cover a little bit of that. But let's go ahead and watch. this first one, spherical UAP in and out of clouds, November 2020. I don't think there's any audio in these guys, so we might talk over them. Oddly quiet.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Eerily quiet, yeah. Let's go ahead and watch this one. Okay. Here we go. Of course, it's not putting it. There it is. There you go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So we have this dark circular object that seems to be filmed from above, a dark round object that is going into a cloud break, changing direction and coming out of the clouds. Crazy maneuvering. And then it seems to stop right here, like right there. That's probably where they redacted. Oh, my gosh. So it looks like it's replaying the video.
Starting point is 00:46:07 right now to get a wider view. It looks like a 90 degree turn on that thing, almost on a dime, going through the cloud break, and then kind of just stopping. You know, like we do in normal conventional craft. Yeah. Normal conventional aircraft, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:46:28 People are comparing it to Nope, the movie, yeah, that biological UFO and Nope went through the clouds. It was a cloud, actually. in the movie. So what do you think of this one? Pretty impressed with this one. I'd love to know more. When it cuts off, I don't for a moment think that's the end of what they've videoed. I think the video continues on. And I'd love to have that. I'd love to have the metadata. But I have a funny feeling. Let's watch this one go until they stop it, Ryan. Well, shoot. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because I had a feeling maybe we were getting close to the cloud. outbreaks and perhaps we might be able to see what part of the world this is, you know, I know where it's in Afghanistan, but you know. Like right here? Yeah, right there. So I just wondered if they stop it there because it would give away. Yeah, give it away. Give it away more details like military details. So give it away, give it away.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It also looked like when it went into the clouds and then came back out, it looked like there were frames missing from the video. Yeah, like, I'm going to go back. I go back one more time. It looked like maybe it's just me, but it looks like there are frames missing. Watch. See? Yeah. If they're not frames missing, that's really, really wild.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Very wild. Yeah. Now, there have been some possible explanations that this is a balloon, which I will say there's 50 videos released. I would say probably 40. something of them are birds and balloons. Right. Like straight up. You can see the tethers of the balloons.
Starting point is 00:48:14 You can see the wings flapping on the birds. So like... There's one with a contrail behind it. There's contrary. Yeah. But this one is interesting. It's interesting. Some people think it might be an artifact of the camera.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm not really ready to go there. I feel it. And we have to keep in mind. This video was actually already released by Jeremy Corbell a while back. So like this one isn't new, but now it's officially released by the Pentagon. But it is, it's interesting. I don't know what to make of it. But like you said, why does it stop right where it does?
Starting point is 00:48:50 Why can't we see what it does after that? Why is this video so sport? Why are we not getting anything more? Yeah. Stop it. This one, it's getting good. Hello to Grant is here. Oh, is Grant.
Starting point is 00:49:05 We've got Shepard is here. Welcome, guys. Thanks for being here. See, Andrew. Appreciate it. So we just covered that first video. Should we move to the Syrian one? Yeah, let's do. So this one was really making the rounds in the news and whatnot because of the quote-unquote instant acceleration.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Yes. It was called Syrian UAP instant acceleration. Same preface. Arrow got this video by an uploader. and it was uploaded from a classified network in 2024. It was captured on a military platform. Yeah, no, duh, but we don't know what kind. We don't know no metadata, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:49:52 But let's go ahead and we'll watch the Syrian. This video is pretty long, so we might fast forward. We might cut go forward in it. Fast forward and cut forward, right? Yeah, that's a thing. Uh, instant acceleration. Here we go, Susan. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:17 So you've got this kind of oblong object moving very quick, it looks like. A lot of things on the screen are redacted. But whatever military platform this is, locked in on the object, and then boom. And there goes. Gosh. Uh, wow. Okay. Aren't you just really wanting to know how they deal with G-Force?
Starting point is 00:50:40 we'd be a little splats against walls if we were... I know. I also think it's interesting. So many of these that we have seen before, Ryan. They're at that funny forward tilting angle. And this one, I can't tell that it is. So it almost looks like plasma, doesn't it? It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Now, what... Remind me again, what is white mean? Like the object is hot White is hot I think white is hot Okay so that object is very Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:18 So it looks like it kind of goes See Andrew says white is hot Wait it's hot Okay I'll keep the video playing But let's discuss this a little bit Now a lot of people are saying that the object Instantly accelerates and zooms out
Starting point is 00:51:39 Out of frame of the camera like we just saw right there. However, a lot of people have brought to my attention that that night might not be what is happening at all, Suzanne. Yeah. What we're learning is that this object, it's locked on. And then because the shape or something moves,
Starting point is 00:52:04 they unlock from it. Yeah. And the object doesn't change. change direction and instantly accelerate. It's just that the lock and the camera stop following it. So imagine like the camera is following it and then they just stop following it. The object continues on its natural, possibly conventional prosaic course. But because the camera stops, it makes it look like the object instantly accelerates off.
Starting point is 00:52:34 So that's what a lot of people are saying with this video, that it's actually, I think even Sean said, the lock failed. So it seems like... Yeah, but you know, is it the Gimble video, Ryan, the Gimble where I think it's Dave Fraver. I can't remember exactly whose voice we're hearing in the audio end of that. But he locked on and there was like a woo-hoo and then boom, that thing's gone. So we have to remember, apparently there is the ability to escape our locks when we put it. Oh, for sure. I mean, that's been going on for decades at this point.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I mean, I always go back to Parvich Jafari back in Tehran, the 1976 event where he tried to lock in on the object and the thing was moving all over and he kept losing it. Crazy stuff. So, I mean, that can be what's happening here. Yeah, not how it works with conventional things. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. It's an interesting video for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:35 It could be showing instant acceleration. If it is, that is one of the observables. and that is highly unusual for sure. No definitive conclusions can be made because we have no data, no metadata, nothing. And it's interesting. They may keep, maybe they're trying to wait us out. Maybe they're going to dump this sort of stuff where we all go, yeah, we've seen that. Yeah, interesting, but where's the data?
Starting point is 00:54:01 You know, we're kind of a lukewarm about it. And then maybe the really good stuff will be tucked in later when they think we're bored. You know, and that's, and we will bring this up in a little bit. That is what Berlinson, Burchett, they're saying. They're like, this stuff and these releases suck. They're like, the second one was a little better, but guys, like the things we've seen, you would not believe and we're trying to get it released. We're trying.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Well, don't you want to know two of these 60-something videos that would just release in the second tranche? Anna Paulina Luna was climbing up everybody's backside. over 42 or 46 videos, specific videos that she wanted to release. But I haven't heard her say, well, thank God we got them. So I don't, I have a funny feeling that's not in this tranche. So maybe so maybe they are. I don't know. I do wonder that too.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Like are these those? Are some of them those? Are none of them those? We don't know, do we? We don't know. Again, we're low and quiet. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Good point. Good point. Hello to our good friend, Sync dash R is here as well. Good to see you, my friend. Grant, as I mentioned, thanks, guys. Thanks for being here. For not being on Twitter, we got some good numbers coming in. So we're so happy to have you guys here. Thank you. Thank you. Again, share the show if you can. We would truly appreciate that. I want to move from videos to audio. Oh, and I should mention, I put all 50 of these videos from batch two up on the channel. So you can go watch all 50 of the videos right now. Go one video back in the archives here on the summer in the skies YouTube channel, guys. If you're not, again, if you're just listening, head over to our YouTube channel, subscribe, hit notifications. You can watch all 50 videos. I've compiled them into one long, like three and a half hour video for you. Exactly. Go watch a content.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yep. Comment below. And then tell us what you see that we didn't see, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, what was I not seeing in that last one? Exactly. Echalabella's here. Welcome. Chellabella is here. Welcome. Chelle Bell.
Starting point is 00:56:15 That's so sweet. Shepherd, thanks, guys. Yeah, so let's move to audio. Okay. Because NASA, once again, dropped some interesting NASA transmissions about astronauts who were seeing weird stuff up there in space. Yes. And this one I want to play for you. We're just going to play one.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Okay. comes from the fourth crude space flight and second orbital flight of Project Mercury, Mercury Atlas 7. And this transmission comes from Aurora 7 pilot Scott Carpenter describing what he was seeing out his window. And it was pretty interesting. You want to hear this? I want to hear it. I love this. This was probably my favorite of what got dropped.
Starting point is 00:57:01 It was cool. Okay. Here we go. It's not too long. white particles in view below the capsule. They appear to be traveling exactly my speed. There is one drifting off going faster than I. I've seen the great numbers of these particles, but I've seen a few of them. Their motion is random. They look exactly like snowflakes to me. Negative, let me get within scanner limits first. Must adjust my attitude to within scanner limits first.
Starting point is 00:58:04 The suspense is killing me. I know. Is that it? I'll let it play first. It'll be like snowflakes. It would like definite snowflakes. There you go. He sounded a little troubles by that.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And I have some questions. Like, are they trained on the front end? If you see something weird, call it a particle, you know, or what? Yeah. It's not. It's not a word that I think someone uninitiated to UFO land would use if it is, you know, a sphere or an orb or odd use of the word particle. And then that it looks like a snowflake. I don't know what in the world.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, I know. You know, I feel like the last batch that we covered with the NASA audio, they also use the word particles. So I don't know if like that's kind of a terminology that they use for things they're seeing out. And then like my mind starts going to really prosaic explanation, Suzanne. Like is it ice particles they're seeing? Is it things on the window even? But I'm like these are some of the most brilliant people. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:03 And experienced. Like they wouldn't know if it was just something on the freaking window of the craft. Wouldn't they? I don't know. I don't know. And when it says it's moving faster than he is, you know, that's interesting. It seemed like it was almost trailing the spacecraft. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Which is crazy. Crazy. This is so kind. I wanted to put it up on the screen. Oh, please. If anyone in the chat has not gotten Ryan's book somewhere in the skies, the human approach, the UFO phenomenon, if you get the chance, purchase it. You won't be disappointed. It's an absolutely amazing read.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Oh, that is so kind. Thank you. So kind. They're complimenting you on your. your book and it's my hair. Some value, some superfluous. You all are very kind. I'm teasing.
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Starting point is 01:01:11 find them on Amazon. Just type in somewhere in the skies. You'll find them both. Thanks, Darren. Thanks, Darren. Appreciate it. But Darren's getting ready to release later this summer. He's going to ask for my earn. As for the landers. I love it. I love it. I was going to mention Darren's coming out with a podcast about Japan later this summer. So. I'm so excited. I'm watching following. Yeah. Beyond the lookout for that, I'll keep everyone posted. I cannot wait for that. Japan. supernatural stuff, just Japan in general. It's going to be really cool. I think it's how did I wake you? Did I wake you? Yeah. I'm super stoked. It's going to be so good. I've heard some of the audio already. You. Yeah, yeah. It's good. I'm not allowed to watch or listen to scary stuff at night.
Starting point is 01:02:04 It's a scary place. It really is. I know it is. Yeah. But back to NASA. There was another one. I don't have the audio with me here, but it was like about like these flashing lights that the astronauts were seeing outside the window. And they're like, is that like a reflection off the sun? Like what is going on? And you can hear it in their voices. They're like, glint or not. You can tell they're not convinced it's glint.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. There's something they're not comfortable with. Crazy stuff. Crazy stuff. So that was really compelling. I always find these NASA audio things more compelling. than like the military videos. Me too.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Me too. Crazy. It's just good to get something out of NASA. I mean, my gosh. How long have we waited? I know. And I always thought, well, they had it. They've got something because they kept saying over and over gold.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Was it my gold? No, no, it was the director of NASA, the tall, gray-haired guy. He kept saying, we need to use AI to go through our files, starting with NASA, and analyze it. And I thought, well, you're holding something, aren't you? You're, you know. Clearly they've been holding some stuff. Yeah. So again, I love it.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I love that NASA is finally handing some of this stuff over. Department of Energy is handing step over. Yeah. Yeah. Like, is it helping? I don't know. Bill Nelson. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I don't know because we are not getting all the information we need to make any determinations. But again, it's hard to conclude things in retrospect from things that 40 plus years old. It's hard to reverse engineer that. But we're trying. We're trying. What I found most interesting is the files this time had more compelling things than I
Starting point is 01:03:54 think the actual video is in audio. I carry completely. Of course, that's where I started. It's like, we need to start with the paper. Yeah, start with the paper. The first one that you brought to my attention was one that Eric Berlinson says was the most interesting thing to come out of this second batch release. And it's a document that's a firsthand account written by a currently serving senior U.S.
Starting point is 01:04:23 intelligence official. The official was part of a team investigating reports of unusual noises and sightings of UAP in and near a sensitive U.S. military facility in late 2025. man, I read through it today twice. And it's, if that's an actual event, it's pretty interesting. Yeah. But rather than Suzanne, I thought, reading the whole document, our really good friend Dan Warren over at Fifth Pillar of Emphasis,
Starting point is 01:04:59 the TikTok channel, he cut together an awesome visual representation of the event. So he is going to kind of, you know, lend us his awesome creativity. It was awesome. I love it when he gets these things. When he puts his mind to particular task, you get an incredible product out of him. I would have to agree. So, guys, if you're not following Dan, go follow him on TikTok. Fifth Pillar of Emphasis.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I put a link in the show notes to his link tree as well, where you can subscribe to his YouTube channel, his Instagram. He's most active on TikTok. So that's where you should definitely go. But let's watch this video representation of the document that was released in this batch that Berlinson found most intriguing. Because he actually spoke to these intelligence people who reported this. Burlington did. So we're going to watch this. It's on the little longer side, probably the longest video we're going to show.
Starting point is 01:05:53 But well worth it. Trust me. And then we're going to get some thoughts from Richard Dolan and some of the file releases in this. So let's go ahead and watch this Dan Warren video first about this 2025 event. And we'll come back and talk about it on the other side. Here we go. The following declassified UAP event was documented by the FBI during an intense debrief with the primary witness, a senior U.S. intelligence officer. It unfolded at a classified government testing installation nestled between jagged mountain ranges and nearby towns somewhere in the remote Western United States.
Starting point is 01:06:31 At 5 p.m. on the evening of the encounter, the senior intelligence, officials climbed aboard a helicopter with two federal partners and two seasoned state pilots. They launched into the fading daylight to perform an aerial sweep of the surrounding mountainous terrain. Strange orbs had been reported earlier that day by installation personnel, glowing spheres accompanied by deep, thunderous thuds as if massive objects were slamming into the earth. But the hours-long search turned up nothing. As darkness swallowed the last remaining daylight, they were turned to base to refuel. A short time later, they received a strange report. Observation post personnel scanning through night vision goggles had spotted debris four miles to the east. At 9.41 p.m.,
Starting point is 01:07:18 the crew scrambled back into the helicopter. Blades thunder as they lifted off and raced towards the suspected debris field. They circled the area in question in near total darkness, sweeping the ground with night vision goggles and the powerful spotlight, but only found empty shadows. After eight tenths minutes, they turned back towards base, only for the radio to crackle to life with an even more concerning message. The observation post reported multiple high-speed radar hits just four miles from their location. The Joint Operations Center fed them new coordinates in an effort to have them intercept whatever was observed on the radar. 13 minutes later, at 10.02 p.m., they arrived at the rally point and locked eyes on a distant aircraft slipping away along the horizon. Confirmation of the aircraft came instantly from the observation post, followed by an even more alarming transmission.
Starting point is 01:08:12 A superheated orb was spotted hovering at ground level close by. Just then, the orb exploded into motion. It rocketed eastward at impossible speed, veered sharply south, and suddenly split into two distinct objects. The observation post vectored the helicopter south to attempt another intercept. Five minutes later, at 10.07 p.m., the J.E. AOC warned the helicopter pilots that five military aircraft had entered the shared airspace on a training mission. The helicopter reached the new intercept coordinates and began a desperate search with fleer night vision goggles and the naked eye. Nothing was seen.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But the observation post could still see the orb. They reported that the orb rapidly accelerated into the air, climbing straight toward the helicopter until it passed within 10 feet. Then it streaked east like a rocket. The pilot aggressively gave chase only for the radio to interrupt his effort by informing him that the orb was now 20 miles away. The helicopter was no match for the orb's flight performance. At that moment, the co-pilot caught sight of it through his night vision goggles. It had split into two orbs and he observed something emerging from them that took off in a different direction at tremendous speed.
Starting point is 01:09:28 The helicopter hovered in place, waiting for direction, when suddenly the entire crew witnessed a massive swarm of lights too many to count, streaking in every direction as the swarm drifted to the south. At 1027 p.m., visual contact with the swarm was lost, and the Joint Operation Center announced that they canceled the exercise of the five military aircraft and redirected them to assist the lone helicopter in their search for the UAP. That was when the sky truly came alive. The helo pilot suddenly spotted two enormous orbs hovering side by side directly above them. The orbs flared brilliantly, stationary, menacing, glowing ovals with fiery orange exteriors and blinding white centers, radiating light in all directions, illuminating the
Starting point is 01:10:15 shocked faces of the crew. Seconds later, a third orb ignited below the first two, then a fourth, then a fifth, until five blazing orbs hung in a vertical column of light. They held their position, then slowly flared out in reverse order, vanishing into the darkness. One minute later, four or five identical orbs were observed to the west, ominously positioned directly over the five inbound military aircraft. They flared up one by one in a perfect horizontal line, burned intensely for 10 to 15 seconds, then extinguished in the reverse sequence.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Five minutes after that, another formation flared up to the east near a small town, same horizontal pattern, same eerie precision. minutes later, yet another flare-up erupted west of the military installation over the mountains. They two flared down and disappeared into the night. At 10.49 p.m., a new swarm erupted, but this one included three distinct orbs locked in a tight triangular formation. After several seconds, they too flared out. Three minutes later, positioned 10 miles north of the installation, the crew watched five or six orbs ignite over a local town to the east, flaring up one at a time in a horizontal formation before extinguishing in reverse. At 10.57 p.m., four more
Starting point is 01:11:38 orbs flared up directly above the five military aircraft yet again as they made their final descent back to the base, burning brightly before vanishing. This was the final sighting that ended the hour-long game of Cat and Mouse. At 11.16 p.m., the shaken intelligence officer and crew landed back at the operation center, forever changed by what they witnessed. Man. Man is right. Wow. This, I mean, helicopter incidents always fascinate me.
Starting point is 01:12:16 There have been a bunch throughout the years. The one that really sticks out to me was the, the 1973 coin helicopter incident where, like, a UFO almost collided with these, like, Coast National Guard helicopter pilots. and then the giant elliptical orb or whatever like pulled the helicopter up a tractor beam sort of situation um coin was like the
Starting point is 01:12:47 last name of the main helicopter pilot he would actually go on to testify in front of the United Nations about the event um but here you have like a very modern day case of orbs like an invasion of us going to
Starting point is 01:13:03 on. So definitely display of capability, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What else did you take for that? Well, I just think it's so great that Dan took a document and then made it visual for the visual learners and auditory learners because then you really can envision, even if you're not one of those. You can really see more of what these pilots were experiencing and it had to be life-changing. I bet they were shaken when they got back to the ground. Yeah. Again, trained observers. Like, they're going to know the difference between like a flare drop or a drone. Like, yeah, this was really.
Starting point is 01:13:47 And sustained. The thing I loved about it was it's sustained. Most of us have experiences that are at best moments long, at best, sometimes seconds. My one orb sighting was 10 seconds. at most as it flew over my car out here in New Mexico. So to get an hour-long sustained exposure in multiple formats, wow. Crazy. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Yeah. Grant says, get to the chopper. I love it. Ooh. Sink says, I got a 4K night vision camera with an IR torch. That's awesome. That's going to make for some good. skywatching.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Nice. Let us know what you capture, my friend. Exactly. Okay. The last video we're going to show here to kind of close things up, Suzanne, is from Richard Dolan, our good friend, UFO historian, researcher. He dug up some of the really old files from like the 40s and 50s. And they have to do with these green orbs, green fireballs that have been cited all the way
Starting point is 01:15:02 back to like the 1940s or whatnot and we're not talking you know a lot of the time we see the videos of meteors coming in and they're green and they crash and all that like that's not i think what we're dealing with with these quote-unquote green fireballs because i have interviewed many witnesses who have seen these things and we're talking about mass as spherical green orbs i mean maybe even the stuff that the bletzo's claimed to have seen yeah um that seem intelligent and plasma-like and can like move on a dime and like go do crazy things. Dolan found some interesting documents that had to do with these green fireballs. I think some from the U.S. and some from Russia.
Starting point is 01:15:45 So do you think, should we just watch that one? Yeah, let's just watch it. I don't know a lot about the green fireballs. So I'm anxious to. It's a fascinating phenomenon. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Let's end things tonight with a good old Richard Dolan video here, guys. here we go PDF files were actually interesting this is an old historical one but don't just dismiss this one this is over a hundred pages this is the Sandia file basically one of the Sandia files is a few a sandy base was is and has always been one of the most important military installations dealing with nuclear technology back in the 1940s so you know during this period of time we're talking 1948 1949 there's reports of green fireballs all kinds of disks and luminous objects in that area and there was a very long scientific study report about this
Starting point is 01:16:45 what's interesting here this is from page i think 13 i just thought this is quite noteworthy very serious response what they're noting here there were aircraft that were detecting particulates in the air following these green fireballs, including copper or copper-bearing material. So they're discussing the particle size, the atmospheric descent, and all of these details. And they're saying, look, the copper that we're getting here, these particles, if they came from these fireballs, which is what they were thinking, is what it seemed like to them, then you have to toss the meteor explanation pretty much. out because meteors are not loaded with copper.
Starting point is 01:17:34 So I just thought that was kind of, it really just shows you that in 1948, 1949, you have US military and you have many of the power scientists of that system. They are already here dealing with recurring aerial phenomena near nuclear facilities. They're taking them seriously. They're finding that the ordinary explanations did not really satisfy the facts so for me that's one of the values of this document it just shows how early the UFO problem kind of became entangled with the whole nuclear security state this is another PDF CIA document it's fairly brief but I do
Starting point is 01:18:19 think it's interesting because it comes out of the Soviet sorry shagon weapons testing range in 1973 most of the report deals with missile systems and the rumored laser research but then almost casually you get this report from a soviet source who described seeing a bright green circular object in the sky near the range and according to the source this green object expanded within seconds developed several concentric green circles around it then before it faded away after a few minutes no sound no explosion and they had no explanation for this. So you don't want to overstate this one. It's a single source intelligence report, but it is interesting that yet another strange green aerial phenomenon
Starting point is 01:19:14 is showing up in connection with a very sensitive weapons environment, this time inside the Soviet Union. You know what's really interesting is a reminder. Sandia National Lab is just down the road on the edge of Albuquerque, which is also where General McAstlin disappeared from. And it was directly connected with Kirkland Air Force Base. And so that is basically 45 minutes or an hour straight south from Santa Fe. And then maybe 30 minutes across the valley from Santa Fe is Los Alamos. So situationally, very interesting here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I think, too. Was Curtlin, wasn't that where? The whole Paul Benowitz thing happened, too. I think so. Wow. I think so. Oh, man. And you mentioned McCaslin.
Starting point is 01:20:06 What? That story faded. Nothing. A great big nothing. Yep. Really shows like the kind of news world we live in today. That thing just like, you know, it's so unfortunate. I mean, at this point.
Starting point is 01:20:20 I mean, that guy's gone. I sad. But I love this comment from Grandizer 12, 12. Yeah. We hear this story all the time about the Sandia Mountains run literally through Albuquerque and a little bit on each side. And we hear this all the time. That there is an alien base under the Sandian Mountains. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Hey, it's like Dulcee, Dolce. That's right. It's right. It's got its own. Yeah. I'm not, hey, I'm not going to say no. I mean, there's a reason all these green fireball like things are. being cited all over that area.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, I thought those files that Dolan brought up were really interesting. These green fireball phenomena have been happening for a while. There's no sound or explosion, so it's not really a meteor crashing that we know of. They seem to be like, you know, stopping and changing directions. So, like, it's a fascinating phenomenon. And he seems to be really hooked on that.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I know he's brought that up in both batch. is now the green fireball. So I guess it kind of, sorry, Suzanne, go ahead. I was just going to say, so when we hear all the naysayers, there's nothing, we're not getting anything. Is it disappointing? It is, but there are nuggets. I was just going to ask.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Were you? I was going to ask, well, I think my bigger question is, how does batch two stack up to batch one? Did you find it better, different words? I found it just comparable. I thought it was the same. Of course, you know, my lawyer brain, the minute I go to that site and I see that it's just chaos, I just think, oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I start out in a negative spot. But I thought it was comparable. I thought, you know, a lot of, a few little tidbits and a lot of stuff that we didn't need to bother with. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I found the files more interesting than anything else. I did too. I did too.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Yeah. I get that what you will. let's see what our audience thought. I did put a pull up. This is what I'm going to see too. What batch rhymes with Nothing Burger? And then what batch will show the biologicals?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Good question. Where Gresh is headed in this thing in early June. June night. The biologicals, yeah. Yep, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. It's just the orbs are just waiting on Disclosure Day
Starting point is 01:22:51 like we are. What brilliant. marketing by the phenomena and Hollywood. I love that. What did you guys think? I put a poll up over on YouTube. Let me refresh to get the latest numbers. This is the first time in the history of somewhere in the skies that I have remembered
Starting point is 01:23:11 the poll. See if you guys can remember. It's a Christmas miracle. It's a miracle. So I asked over on YouTube, will we get anything of substance out of these government UFO releases. Out of 37 votes, 16% of you said yes, 35% said no, 19% said it's subjective, and 30% said release the Epstein files. I think the distraction may not be as working as well as they would like for it to work. I think you're right. So a kind of a resounding amount said
Starting point is 01:23:48 Epstein files or no, you don't think so. But, you know, I will also say it takes a tremendous amount of time and focus to go through them. And unless you're catching the right podcaster or the right site, it's overwhelming. And so I'm sure people are not spending five or six hours fishing in them. So, you know, all the more reason for us to pick a handful of the things that we see that we think are important or substantive and share them. For sure. Sean says people's disappointment over the files usually coincides with their expectations. And you and I agreed from the beginning, like we're going to go in not having any. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:24:30 That's exactly right. In fact, I did the same thing with movies. I've stopped watching trailers about Disclosure Day because it can only get in my way. I just want to experience it as it unrolls. I did the opposite. So that was my mistake. I've been seeing a lot of, yeah. I've been going to the movies.
Starting point is 01:24:49 a lot lately. I just saw Mandalorian and Grogu. I saw, oh my God, Susie. I saw a horror movie called Obsession. Really? It was, first of all, this was a movie made for
Starting point is 01:25:05 $750,000 and it is tracking right now to beat the Mandalorian and Grogo for two weeks in a row in box office. Wow. For $750,000. $750,000. This movie was made or a million dollars and it's made over like 200 million.
Starting point is 01:25:24 It's the highest grossing, profitable horror movie, I think, of all time compared to how much it cost to make it. Wow. Bill wants you to be sure and watch the backrooms. Yes, the backrooms came out this week. I do plan on going to see it. But, yeah, I, Mandalorian and Groku was fun. But again, I can't believe that this like scrappy, Indeons. horror movie
Starting point is 01:25:51 I love it. Beat the biggest property in history, Star Wars mixed with Disney, the biggest marketing behind it ever. It truly shows that we can still have hope for like smaller movies to get the attention they deserve. And it is disturbing. It is
Starting point is 01:26:11 great. It's funny. It's dark. It's the acting's incredible. The actress in this movie obsession. indie something i don't remember her last name but she like she's in like uh emily blunt oh is she yeah yeah she's like up in that stratosphere yeah she's the next big thing i think um so yeah yeah perfect what's it scare level if you give it at one to ten what's it scare level uh 10 10 okay so i'm not going to be allowed to watch that except streaming and in 10 minute increments It is so on it's not even like there it's gory at some points but it's more of what the movie's about.
Starting point is 01:26:55 This this guy basically wishes for a girl to love him more than anything, anyone else in the world. So it's a monkey's paw situation where he gets his wish with some consequences. There's always a consequence. There's always a consequence you would know as a lawyer. Yeah. There's always step in that fine print there. But it's worth watching for sure. And it's more like the cringe of what happens when she becomes obsessed with him.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Oh, gosh. Cautionary tale to say the last. Yeah, a cautionary tale. Yep. But we'll leave that for another time. Yep, Disclosure Day comes out June 12th in the U.S. June 10th in the UK. We'll be talking all about it afterwards, guys.
Starting point is 01:27:45 So I hope will you guys be seeing it? Let us know in the chat. I'd love to know. Will you be seeing it? Last chance to get a super chat or super secret. If you'd like to help support our work tonight, that's a wonderful way to help us immediately. Links to our Patreon and our Buy Me a Coffee and stuff are in the show notes as well. You can help out that way.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Patreon gets your early access to the podcast, bonus content. Priority to ask guests questions, all that good stuff. But before we go, Suzanne, I have an announcement to make. I think you know what this is going to be. Anamacan is coming back. Here it comes. Exact dates yet, but it will be in September. You and I are trying to find the best time in September to make that happen.
Starting point is 01:28:30 So we'll have news on that very soon. But what we're looking for right now are potential speakers for Anomicon, 2026. So if you or someone you know might be good at speaking and have a topic they're passionate about and can do like a 20 to 30 minute virtual presentation. These are pre-recorded lectures that you give. Anomicon, da, da, da. We'd be interested in hearing your pitches.
Starting point is 01:29:00 You know, we're looking for everything. Ghosts, Bigfoot, UFOs, the paranormal, the mystical, the magical, the anomalous. Everything anomalous we like to cover at Anomicon. So, yeah, reach out to us. through email. Our emails are in the show notes, through socials, all of that. It's a good time. It's a live stream we do all day with speakers in all facets of the anomalous. Absolutely fascinating with all the different speakers and their perspectives on whatever topic they've chosen. You'll enjoy it. For sure. If you guys want to watch Anamicon 2025 and 2024, they're right here on the channel.
Starting point is 01:29:37 You can still watch them in the archives. Or you can learn more about all our past speakers and their presentations. at anomicon.com. Again, that's anomicon.com. You can learn more about the conference and how you might become a part of it. So yeah, reach out to us. We'd love to hear all about that. And you can just email us.
Starting point is 01:29:56 The emails are in the show notes. You can also find us on social media grandizer. You were asking specifically. So there you go. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you. That's it.
Starting point is 01:30:08 That's all I got. You got anything else before we get out of here? Not a thing. Not a thing. Awesome. Well, once again, guys, if you can, please rate and review us on Apple and Spotify. Your code words to put in your reviews is Disclosure Day. Remember that.
Starting point is 01:30:26 And we'll shut you out on the next live stream. If you put that in your Apple podcast review or your Spotify comments as well. Awesome. Yeah, yeah, like, subscribe. Do all that YouTubey stuff as well. Share the show. We would truly appreciate that as well. And who knows what's going to happen?
Starting point is 01:30:44 Maybe we'll get another batch this upcoming Friday. I hope so. I hope so. But either way, we got this event happening on the Capitol steps June 9th. I'm sure we'll get more information in the very near future. We'll share that on our socials. We sure will. We will.
Starting point is 01:31:01 All right, Suzanne. Thank you so much for hopping in tonight and helping me with all of this as pre-usual. It's so good to have you. And all of our regulars, guys, thank you for being. here to our new people. Thank you for joining us tonight. And hopefully we'll see you next week as well. Hi, Pat. Good to see you, my friend. You made it, but barely. Barely. But that'll do it, guys. Thank you so much. And remember, keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching somewhere in the skies. There's nothing to hide at all.
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