PURSUE Tranche 6 UFO Files RELEASED | Breakdown & Reactions
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02:13The question is, was what they saw really there?And what was it they really saw?There is nothing to hide.There's nothing to hide at all.Welcome to a very special, very impromptu, somewhere in the skies live.My name is Ryan Sprague, and thanks for hopping in this morning, guys.The Sixth Trench from the Pursue Initiative from War.gov has just dropped this morning.It's about 2 p.m. here in the United Kingdom.
03:05It is 9 a.m. on the East Coast.what is it uh 6 a.m. in the west coast so welcome to everyone in the u.s your government has released a newbatch of UFO files UFO videos audio and we're going to break it down life i have not had a chanceto look at this i literally have been um the hospital this morning and then i had to gorun some errands after that and then i saw that this thing dropped so i racedhome and said, we got to cover it. We got to cover it. So we're going to break down in real time today.This trench, this release is anything worthy of discussion. That's up to you guys. But we're going tolook at some videos, some audio. We're going to look at some of the files that were released.
03:58Again, I have not had a chance to vet any of this, to look at any of it. So I am just as, you know, notsurprised. We had rumblings that this sixth trench was coming out soon. It always comes out on aFriday. It was September 11th last Friday, so it makes sense that they didn't do it then. Butyeah, it looks like we got it today this morning. And this is breaking. I think we're one of thefirst channels to really do a live reaction to this. So appreciate you guys being here with ustoday. Who do we got? C Kenzo is here. Welcome. Did I wake you 3A.M is here. Hello to Paul. Hello to YouTube channel member, Laura. Great to see you here. Kaluna Punk. Kaluna A. Pink is here.Hello to YouTube member, Tanya here as well. Good to see you. Good to see you. CT cubing. The vids are crap.
04:56Oh no. A little spoiler alert there. But we'll see. We'll see. Diego's here. Cheers from Albuquerque. And from theNational UFO Historical Records Center.Hello, Diego.That's so freaking cool, man.Oh, my God, I'm jealous.What I would give to be there right nowand be a fly on the wall with David Marlter.Any updates on that, Diego?
05:20Let me know what's going on with that dealthat David Marlore might be doing with Arrow.If you guys haven't learned about that,you should go back, look at our live streamfrom a couple weeks ago.We covered all of that.Vic Roy is here, a YouTube channel member.Welcome, my friend.
05:35David Hunt is here as well.And UAP RAD is here.Looking forward to your take on all of this as we work through it ourselves.Glad you are on it.I'm trying, UAP RAD.Always enjoy the love over there on Twitter, sharing our stuff.Truly do appreciate that, my friend.Okay.
05:54Well, one of the things, before we start breaking this down, guys,is Representative Eric Burlinson in the United States.He's kind of been the big champion for a lot of this stuff, these releases.And he's the guy who's been like going to these military places and knocking on doors looking for the UAP legacy programs, all that stuff.He is just like, he got his fingertips on the UFO topic.And now he's like knee deep.He is all in.He's the one kind of like really getting all these initiatives going and whatnot.
06:34And he was really excited because something was released in this trench, which we will get to.And it is a meeting that took place with former head of Project Blue Book, Edward Rupelt.It was this meeting that took place that had to do with a lot of the cases that Project Blue Book were looking at back in 1952.And it's never really been seen nor heard from in the public.I did see that that audio file was released in this trench.over an hour long, so we will not be listening to the whole thing.But what I think I'm going to do is I'm going to package it up,and I'm going to put it on the podcast or on Patreon, something like that.
07:16So you can hear the full thing.But we will preview it and listen to some of Edward Rupelt today during this release.And what's pretty interesting is I've never heard his voice before.So that would be kind of cool, too.That'll be kind of cool.So we'll definitely take a look at that.but this is the tweet that Eric Burlington put out.He said, we found it, we pushed for it.
07:39Now NARA confirms the 1952 Flying Saucer Talk recording is digitized, classified,excuse me, declassified, and set third release.Transparency works when you fight for it.And he fought for it, guys, and it's in this trench.So we're going to hear it.We're going to hear what that is all about.Let's see.Vic Roy is supposed to be working, but this seems to be more interesting.
08:07And Felty says, why am I already not interested?I don't blame you, man.Some of these trenches have been a complete bust.Will this be the same?Let's start.What do you guys say?Let's get going with this thing.Also, thank you for joining us, guys.
08:24We've got over a hundred of you watching across all our streaming platforms on your Friday morning.I know it's super early over in the States.So thank you.Thank you so much for being here.We really do appreciate that.So what I'm going to do is I've got the videos pulled up first.Those are the grabby things.We've got to look at the videos first.
08:44You know that.So we're going to break down the videos.And we're going to see which videos pursue a feature.They kind of always put those at the top and highlight them.So let's see if any of them are even worth looking at, right?So let me go ahead and share screen here.And I'm not that good with the share screen, guys.So please do bear with me.
09:14Okay, there we go.We can make it a little bigger.So let's do it.Let's look at this first video they have here.So I'm trying to see if there's any.Okay, okay.So the first video is from the historical film of the reported UFOs from Utah, released by the DOW.And this was an incident that occurred back in 1952.
09:44So this is most likely a video that Project Blue Book had looked at.So let's pull that up.And how does it look for you guys?Okay, full screen.All right, let's give this a watch from the National Archives.Okay.Okay, I am definitely familiar with this video.This has been seen for many, many years, famously looked at by, I believe, the Condon Committee,
10:22the Condon report looked at this video with Dr. J. L. and Heineck.But we're getting the digitized version, the raw version, as it were.Okay, not a lot happening.What do you guys think these are?We're looking at birds.Oh, what's this?Okay.Interesting.
11:06End of recording.Okay.Well, there you go.There's our first video.Archival footage from Tremington, Utah on July 2nd, 1952.Navy Chief Warrant Officer knew how supported observing and filming a group of bright airborneobjects and shortly thereafter submitted the footage to the footage to thethe U.S. Air Force.
11:28The film later became one of the visual cases reviewed by Project Blue Book through 52 through69.And yeah, yeah, there you go.Films limited detail and lack of fixed reference points prevented a conclusive resolution.I'll start.What I'll do is I'll read these summaries before we watch the videos for the next one, guys.But there's our first Superman Vickrises.Love it.
11:54Love it.Condine and Condon always confuse me.Vickra.Yeah.Yeah, they are quite similar.So the Condon Committee, you know, was kind of this group of scientists.Think of like today we've got the UAP Council, right?You've got like scientists and members of the SCU.
12:16You got Avi Lope.They're kind of doing this like official but unofficial council with the White House,with UFOs or whatever.Put that back in the 50s,back when Project Blue Book was runningand getting all these videos and whatnot.And they said, you know what,let's get a group of the smartest scientists around,
12:37put them in a room and have them figure this all out,you know, by committee as the saying goes.And a very divisive group.I mean, it was said that a lot of it was determined ahead of time.And, you know, we get the rock.Robertson panel, Robertson panel. Did I say that right? Yeah, we'd get that as well.Huge debugging effort too. So yeah, yeah, these things come and go, my friend.Condyne was a scientific report in the United Kingdom, I believe, which involved the Rendell Shum Forrest's incident as well.
13:14Okay, let's go ahead and look at another video here.a little about this one.A local law enforcement officer submitted a report of UAP to Arrow,and it consists of one minute and 19 seconds of video footage from a commercially available cellular device,rear-facing camera from October of 2023.The reporting officer described the phenomenon as silent and is featuring red, blue, and green flashing lights.I mean, not a good way to start, that to me.automatically makes it probably some sort of conventional aircraft and or drone.
13:55But let's take a look.Let's take a look at the video.Are we still coming through here?Okay.Here we go.None of these damn videos ever have audio, which is insane.Okay.So he's looking at this through a windshield, I'm guessing, because it's blurry as hell.
14:23you got the reflection artifactsfrom the cell phone camerato me it looks like a moonfor a bright starthis is so poorly shotI mean I guess it's good that heif he thought it was anomalousthat he actually took the time to get his phone out
14:51but all rightI'm starting to see some glimmer and blinkto itwhat do you guys thinkthis is so poorly filmedokaythat's itthat's it for that one
15:29uh redactionshave been made to protect the identityof the eyewitnessesokaywell those redactions are alwaysthe problem with these things sothere's that onecatastrophic disclosure
15:48Sean coming in hotASAP I agree brotherdefinitely not getting it from these videoscan tell you that much.Did I wake you? I can't tell what I'm looking at. A space slug.A ludic pink.It says, could be Venus. Yeah. Yeah.When in doubt, Venus It Out. That's what the government did for sure.
16:10Okay. This is the third video that they highlighted, also from law enforcement,from October of 2023 as well.All right. Again, from Colorado.the same person?What's going on here? Arrow cell device of the type used to capture this footage, employautofocus, and other automated image processing functions that may distort the apparent morphologicaland kinematic characteristics.Okay, okay.
16:45Arrow, thanks.Let's see.Is this the same thing?What's going on here?This one's 15 minutes long.I don't know about that.why is the grounddid they
17:03they just distorted the grounddidn't they because they don't wantus to know where this took placeis that what I'm guessing happenedthey don't want us tracking downwhere this wasexactly so we can't figure outwho the cop was
17:21I meanit's an orbdoesn't seem to be moving muchif thatline that's right above it is of any reference point.It is making some sudden movements, it would appear.But again, like we don't know how far away this is.Could a, is it closer up in moving subtly or is it further away and moving rapidly?
18:23Right?I'm like looking at the right thing, right?It's not that kind of dancey light way up at the top there.Am I stupid?Like, what, what am I supposed to be looking at here?I don't know, guys.I'm about to turn this one off.This is pissing me off.
18:49These are so bad.So, so bad.Hello to, um, to Neil.More interested in the documents because the videos are a joke.Hope I eat my words.No, you are correct, my friend.These videos are shit.Complete and utter shit.
19:19Man, if this is,the type of stuff that got sentto Arrow, I would be so likeif I worked to Arrow,I'd be like, really? Really?This is what you had me doing?Anyways, okay. Enough of that.Let's see.
19:38If there's any other videos here,let's look at a onemore current. This one is from2025, unresolvedUAP from the Middle East.See if this one's of any interest.This comes from the United States Central Command submitted a report of a UAP to Arrow consisting of four minutes and 58 seconds of video footage from the infrared sensor aboard a U.S. military platform in 2024.An accompanying mission report described the UAP as looking like a white round orbit moving as fast as 500 miles per hour.
20:23they go on to describe what happens in the video,but let's do that ourselves.Let's take a look at this event from the Middle East.Okay.Reminds me that go fast.That thing is hauling ass.I'm not going to lie.It's white hat.
21:01So I'm guessing this is a drone following this thing.Hmm.I mean, it seems to be going in a pretty straight trajectory.I'm not seeing any sudden movement.Okay, hold on.Either the drone slowed down, the object slowed down, or both.It's like maybe they switched apertures or something.But it does seem that the object is slowed down tremendously.
21:54Okay, and now it...Okay, here we go.This is interesting.It seemed to have sped up and slowed down extremely fastand is making sharp accelerations and decelerations.Huh.Ryan Likey.It's way better than those other videos.
22:28Parallax effect balloon.Huh.See, okay, so it's looking like this object is making very abrupt movements all over the place now.This thing is like all over.But is it the object or is it, you know, the device capturing it or both?I don't know.I'm not McWest, guys.So I'm not here to like,
23:04obviously come to any conclusions.I don't do that.That's not a specialty of mine.Wow.Okay.Yeah.This is compelling to me.As someone who's never seen this video,
23:20has absolutely no frame of reference for it other than what they put on the website.Again, we don't know anything.Everything's blacked out on your screen in terms ofspeed, distance,all that stuff we want to know.coordinates, everything,redacted.It always is.
23:47Kuluna A. Pink,they're alwaysit looks like early computer gamesor the background moves, but the plane stays still.Yeah.Corpano is saying it's parallax.It only looks like it's changing speed.I will take your word on that.
24:08again, it looked compelling, but maybe that's why they thought it was anomalous.Vickrach says, thing that gets me about parallaxes, why the military can't identify.I was just going to say that.Like, if so many of these videos released by Wardaca, pursue, if these are being sent to the Pentagon via, you know, our military branches or,or caught on surveillance through intelligence apparatuses, whatever.If they're being sent there because they're anomalous,how do these people not know that this is parallax before they send it?I don't know.
25:02That just astounds me too.Are they that ignorant as I am?Because they damn well shouldn't be.I don't know.That thing was darting all over the place, Corpano.I don't know if we can just say that it's parallax.But again, I don't know. I don't know.UAP rat says Parallax can only do so much.
25:30And the military are surely able to account for this actively and in retrospect.That's what I would think.Are they just toy in with us?You know, a lot of the stuff that's been sent to Jeremy Corpel,a lot of people think that they just, it was like a prank.They knew what these things were, that they were just parallax or like drones or,you know, artifacts of cameras and all that.And they were just like, let's give them to these UFO people.
26:01They will gobble this shit up.And I guess we are.We're going live at 9 a.m. Eastern Standard looking at what Pursue has to offer us.So I don't know.I don't know.Cool.Though that video was definitely more compelling than many others.I will tell you that.
26:19Let's look at maybe one more video.Let's see. Unresolved Middle East, Middle East. Ooh, yellow sea. Okay. Now you're speaking my language.Just from 2023. The United States Indo-Pacific command submitted a report of a UAP-2 arrow consisting of 19 seconds of video footage from an infrared sensor aboard a U.S. military platform in 2020.Okay, 19 seconds. We can do it.watch. Let's give this a go. Hello, Mr. Black blob. How are you today? Always love watching videosover water. Again, seems to be hauling ass, and that's it. Okay. Interesting. Interesting.Is white, cold, or hot? So what would black mean? Someone let me know. I never remember.I'm like, hot and cold dyslexic or something.
27:36Hello to hides in long grass.One of our regulars.Good to see you.My friend said, gobbling.Yep, that's the thing expect this to do, huh, buddy?Laura, welcome.Welcome, my friend.If they have to narrow it down and rule out other possibilities,
27:54why would they not rule out parallax?Boom.Agreed.Corpano responds.They aren't ruling anything out.It's a UAP.Even if it's a balloon or a bird,since you can't see what it is.
28:08I mean, yeah.Hello to Shaq Valet.The compelling stuff is in the text files,but can't expect Normies to actually read those.We're going to go through some of them, for sure.White can be hot or cold.Thank you, Shaq.Appreciate that.
28:36Hello to Di Goddalen.Good to see you here.When will be the real disclosure some date?Good question, my friend.It's definitely not coming through Pursue.I can tell you that much.Definitely not.Definitely, definitely not.
28:56Okay.What do you guys think?Should we move on?Do you want to hear some of the RuPaul's audio?That one, I'm interested in that one, if I'm being completely honest.Let me see if I can find that.Go to audio.I will say the
29:18setup of the Pursue website is getting a little betterlittle, little better, here it is.It's the only audio file.Interesting.Okay.So this is what Eric Berlinson was referring to you guys.This, I guess, presentation by Captain Edward J. Ruppelt from 1952.He was the head of Project Blue Book at the time,
29:45came out with a wonderful book.about his time investigatingwith Project Blue Book.Definitely worth a read.It's one of the UFO classics.I think I have it somewhere back here.I don't have time to look for it.Wait, is that it?
30:02Oh, no, that's a Donald Kehoe book.I don't have it here with me.I have it back in the Stateswith my family in safekeeping.But let's read here.This audio file records a March 1952presentation by Captain Edward J. Rupeltoutlining the U.S. Air Force's reorganized investigation into unidentified flying objects.
30:24The presentation previews prospective technical methodologies, such as defraction gradingphotography and radioscope synchronization that was subsequently incorporated into ProjectBlue Book. Blah, blah, blah. Rupert explains that out of approximately 800 historical casesreviewed by the Air Force, approximately 20% remained unexplained after technical analysis.These unresolved reports were sourced from credible military personnel, commercial pilots,and other qualified technical observers.He also highlights geographic report concentrations around sensitive national securityand nuclear weapons.
31:06That's interesting.I mean, that's the talk of the town, isn't it?When it comes to this stuff, UFOs and nukes?Is there a correlation? Is it causation? We don't know. And then you've got those reports by the Vasco project with Dr. Beatrice Villoreal, you know, with the plates and everything, saying that these transient objects that could be considered possible UAP, you know, were blinking in and out of existence. And the pattern seemed to line up with nuclear detonations. You know, there's a lot of contention between different scientists that have come to different conclusions.about her results and all that.Way over my head.It's interesting.Peer-reviewed papers have been published
31:51and whatnot about it.But people just keep going back and forth,back and forth about all that.But I'm interested to hearwhat Edward J. Ruppelt has to sayabout that back in 1952, of all things.Now, as I mentioned, this is an hour and 15 minutes long.So we're definitely not going to listen to all of it.
32:08But let's just, let's start from the top.Let's see what they got planned for.us here.This medium has beendeclassified in compliance withapplicable executive order, statutes,and regulations.Thank you.
32:25Time for all good mento come to the aid of theircountry now is the time for all good mento come to the aid of theircountry now is the time for all good men.What is that?What the hell was that?Oh.
32:55Pressing them with my voicestraight at the microphoneand my mouth separated from the microphoneby a distance of about 15 inches.I expect that the speaker will put outwhere's Rupertile?Yeah, there's a few things on the tape now.Yeah, there are a few things on the tape.
33:15Oh, they pay too much more attentionto folks isand out of the United States.There was no pattern.Is that repeal?We plotted the frequency of these reports again.You'll see that it doesn't vary too much,from year to year.
33:32This large peak down here,this, that you just see it a little bit,this large peak down here occurred right after the first sightingby this Arnold out in Idaho,and it was undoubtedly a lot of it was due to mass hysteriapeople wanting to get their names in the paper.However you see it tapered off and it reaches a peak right in, see this is June in July.And every year almost it's reached a peak in there.
33:59It's also peaked to a certain extent here in January.And then again, there's a peak here in December.Now there's actually no direct pattern to that, but there's enough of a pattern that plants a seeded down in your mind.You sort of wonder why this thing should run a cycle like that.In these two years, 47 and 48, there was a lot of newspaper publicity.However, in 49, 50, and 51, there was very little newspaper publicity.And the reports from 49, 50, and 51 are mostly from military sources.The civilians have dropped out because possibly they didn't know where to report this stuff
34:36or they weren't interested in it.The Air Force came out and said that there was nothing to it, so they just quit making reports.However, military has continued to make reports.I should say military and a few airlines pilots are covering these two years.We've taken the reported shapes.We have a lot of questions.People say, well, what are people reporting?So we've broken it down into shapes.
35:00In this segment here, there were no shapes reported.Somebody just called in a road letter and said, I saw something.So we've had to disregard it.This segment right here represents some type of an astronomical.body. I really wish there was video to this.Like they're referring to so many visuals and whatnot,it would have been greatly helpful to have some sort of visual for all this for reference.But man, I guess I think that's repelled.
35:31I can't tell. It sounds so crystal clear.I was expecting a more, you know, this thing's been hidden or guarded for so longthat it would be kind of that old staticy feel to it.but maybe it's been digitized and cleaned up.I'm not exactly sure, but interesting nonetheless.Let's keep listening, question mark.You guys think this is worth it?Let me know in the live chat.
35:57Say it was that either a bright light in the sky or a streak of light that could have been a meteor.We've lumped all those together.In this section, our disc are spherical shaped objects.We've lumped those together because we don't believe that people can tell if they're seeing a disc or a spirit.unless they should happen to see it both in the bottom view and edgewise to determine its disc.So we've lumped those all together.Some of these could be balloons.I mean, there's no doubt about that.
36:26They could be weather balloons.However, due to, or contrary to popular opinion, these things, they are definitely not all balloons.These are shapes that just reported as oval shapes.It's difficult to tell what they are.Miscellaneous is almost anything.vapor trails probably actually were vapor trails of aircraft.There's one small segment in here, which is only six-tenths of one percent of the all 800 reports,and that is reports of groups of lights going through the sky.
36:57And we've had quite a bit of difficulty with those because the reports are usually from pretty good sources,and they'll see, oh, anywhere from six to 20 lights in a formation going streaking across the sky.Well, it's almost impossible if that would, that you would find six meteors together.I understand it's possible to see two of them together that would appear to be in formation, but no more than that.Certain percentage, 1% are reported to be balloons.Now, these are balloons that we've not been able to establish the origin.In other words, they're just balloons floating over the United States, and they're probably meteorological balloons that have gotten loose from some station.have burst when they were supposed to.
37:43I just realized why is this have a NASA logo behind it?Like is this Edward Ruppelt giving a presentation in conjunction with or for NASA?Like, why would they put this logo behind it?Why wouldn't it be in United States Air Force logo, a Air Command logo, a Project Blue Book logo?that's weird that they would put the NASA logo behind this, or is that just me?What am I missing here, guys?What am I missing?Okay, let's keep listening to Edward J. Ruppeltz.
38:22Ruppelt?Well, it's two and a half percent resemble actual aircraft.We've had quite a bit of discussion as to whether or not these objects could possibly be some highly developed aircraft type that the Soviets have.We've almost been able to throw that out because a small percent.of reports that even mention any shape due to aircraft that would resemble aircraft.This percentage here are reported to be rockets or cigar-shaped objects.Now once again, we've gone into that quite thoroughly and have found that, and it'scommon knowledge, that any bright light traveling through the air will burn an image in your
39:02eye and you'll have some persistence there and it will appear to be elongated when actuallyIt's just a round source of light.That's some of the shapes that we've had.Now, down in getting back to this disc or spherical-shaped objects,these things are always silent.Give me them sexy sensors.Object we're dealing with is a disk-shaped thing.These are always silent.
39:27They're usually highly maneuverable, although lately the reports that have been coming inhave neglected to put this 90-degree turn business in.they just go over at a great rate of speed.But the fact that they're silent is quite interestingbecause we have no knowledge of any type of power plantthat would be completely silent.Now these are the types of people that send in our reports.This segment here are civilians.
40:01And most of these reports came in when the projectwas first initiated back in 1947-48.black segment here are reports from military sources and there we've uh it's interesting tohear rupelt talk about 1947 nineteen forty eight now as we know blue book wouldn't come for years laterwe first had what was it project signed then project grudge and then you know eventually projectblue book the most i guess publicly forward-facing um publicity sort of uh uhnarrative steering part of their three-pronged UFO investigations.You know, I think Sign really was the United States, you know, army that would have actually
40:51turned into the Air Force.I think that was the most genuine time in U.S. history when, you know, we had the pilots whodied chasing the object. Then you also had the Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting of the nine crescent-shapedcraft. And then, of course, the famous Roswell UFO crash. I think back when that kind of feverpitch happened in 47, 48, that's when they looked at this like, oh my God, what is happening?What is in our skies? It's not ours. Why can't we stop it? And then,you know, eventually Project Blue Book would kind of be them being like, no matter what it is or isn't,we need to quill the kind of panic that this might cause if people keep investigating these things
41:47or seeing these things. And that's when we started getting the more debunking aspect of all thiswhen Heineck got involved and everything. So it is an interesting time period, for sure, 47, 48leading up to what eventually Project Blue Book would become. Vickra said, are you enjoying this, Ryan?I am. This is pretty fascinating. The repelled audio. I'm not going to lie. I have never heard the man's voice before. So I'm enjoying hearing him talk about how, you know, Blue Book and even prior to that, how they looked at the topic back then. It's interesting. It's interesting.UAP, Brad says, a new quote for us to add to our webpage from Orion, quote, give me them sexy saucers. Did I say that? I forgot.on already. Yes, please, please feel free to quote me on that.Kalutipik says he sounds so calm talking about UFOs so long ago. Yeah, agreed. Rupelt sounds likekind of a cool dude. Not going to lie. Okay, let's keep listening. This is cool. I like it.
42:56Why not, right guys? With your morning coffee, your eggs and your bakey, have some repelte.Pour a little roulette on them eggs.Put them in as just ground officers, not, usually not flying officers, or at least the reports are not made from the air.We have a small segment here of radar returns that we've been unable to explain.This section right here are reports from civilian pilots who were airborne at the time of the sighting.This segment in here, especially is the one we're very interested in.They're reports from airline pilots, from tower operators, balloon observers.Now these balloon observers are normally people like the General Mills crews that launch these high altitude balloons.
43:43And here we have technically trained personnel such as scientists, engineers, and so forth.This segment, as I said, are the ones that we're very much interested in.Now, airline pilots are, we consider very reliable because they're very, well, they don'tmight to stick their neck out and make money, these reports unless they're absolutely sure theysay. Sorry, guys, that I keep pausing. I just had an idea. Now, while I'm playing this, I'm listeningvery carefully. But if any of you in the chat want to start looking for any of the PDF filesin Trench 6 that you think are most compelling, can you let me know in the chat what you think,which ones we should look at? Because I'm going to be honest, the videos that Pursue told us to look at,
44:29all pretty much sucked major ass.So I hope that's not the same with the documents and files.So yeah, if anyone wants to, you know,fast forward ahead and look at some of the PDFs,just go to war.gov slash UFO, go to trench 6,and let me know in the chat.I might do a little digging too while we're listening to this.Let's continue.
44:52They received from very unfa favorable publicityduring this last rash of reports to the first.in 47 and 48 and 80, absolutely refused to give us reports unless they're completely soldthat they saw something.I've talked to quite a few of the pilots and one of them made the statement if he lookedout his window and saw a V2 rocket or something like that flying wing tip to wing tip with himover Spokane, he wouldn't tell anybody about it.I mean, he'd never report the Air Force because, or to anybody because they'd just say he was
45:24crazy and probably grounding.So that's the big difficulty we have in getting reports from airline pilots.We do hear through the grapevine that they see an awful lot of odd things and that they don't report,especially over in the Near East, Iran, and Middle East, they should say Iran, Palestine, Egypt, and nose runs.Now, we haven't been able to pin that down as fact.That's just a rumor that we've picked up in talking to other airline pilots who've heard other airline pilots say that.that's interesting too bringing up iran and and and whatnot you know we had the famous what would eventually become the kind of famous tyrant incident uh probably my favorite ufo case of all time where general paris jafari would go up and chase the UFO over the city of turan and all his instruments would fail the closer he got to this diamond shaped object you know he tried to even possibly um engage or lock in on this thingand he couldn't.
46:26All is, just everything got shut down.It was crazy.This is all documented.You can find files from the Defense Intelligence Agency that were on the ground when Barbese-Trafari landed.Members of the Defense Intelligence Agency were already there to interrogate him about what he'd seen up there.What out-maneuvered a leased United States Air Force plane at the time that Iran was leasing our aircraft.So fascinating.fascinating to know that, you know, these things had been reported in Iran and whatnot,
46:59and we'd eventually get the famous Tehran incidents.Interesting.Nonetheless, hello to Luan Trento, Dello, they ask, what about the one talking aboutwarp drive, dark energy?That is interesting.Which one is that?Please, if you have a number or anything, I'll try to find that.That's interesting.
47:22Let's keep listening to Eddie Edie Rupples.We've never been able to pin it down.However, it would be very interesting to find out, and we're making attempts,although we've run up against a lot of trouble because they said the pilots just don't want publicity,and they won't make those reports.This segment in here have been reported by Air Force pilots and their aerial sightings.A lot of these have been balloons.We've had a lot of trouble with the balloons in it.
47:52A pilot meeting a balloon in the air isn't familiar with what that balloon is going to do.I mean, he's familiar with meeting another airplane, and he's already made up his mind as to what the rate of closure should be,and different things like that.He'll usually assume that when he meets a balloon, instead of a balloon, it's some object about 30 or 40 feet in diameter,and judging the rate of closure, he assumes it's going at a very terrific speed.But we've been able, in some cases, to actually show how that pilot was misled,that it was actually a balloon. However, we don't try to say that everything was aballoon. In other words, if a balloon was launched in the area, we tried to definitely pin that
48:35down. And we can get the time to launch the balloon, the rate of assent, the winds are lost. We canplot out the path of that balloon and plot out the pilot's path and show by various linesof sight how he actually did see the balloon. In the past, it's been apractice to say, well, there was a balloon launch within 100 miles.Consequently, the pilot must have seen a balloon. We don't want to try that because it's,well, we just want to have more proof before we say that it's a balloon.And the Air Force has gotten into a lot of trouble in the past by very loosely tying up these balloons with the sightings.We have some port-a-bast of these objects that...
49:15That's so interesting that Rupelt himself would kind of call out his own, you know, Air Force for...Using the weather balloon thing, excuse, I guess, too willy-nilly.You know what?That's interesting, to say the least.All right.Let's keep listening.This is great.We have quite a few photographs, I should say.
49:44A lot of them are definitely either hoaxes or else they're flaws in the negative.And the people have found this print, have looked at it and said,I took a picture of the sky, and I didn't see this.flying saucer although here's a picture of it and I'll send it in to us it's nottoo difficult to examine the motion through a microscope and find out that theimage is due to a an imperfection in the negative however we have a fewphotographs that are very difficult to evaluate this is one of them right hereit was taking a wish we could see it on the 7th July in 1947 this has been
50:21hanged around quite a bit and there's a little bit of doubt as to the whether or notthis was purposely faked, but we've never been able to prove it.This picture is probably the most interesting one that we've ever received,mainly because we went into the background of this thing a lot more.This was taken in Lubbock, Texas, last September.Now, this Lubbock case is probably the most interesting one.The whole case is the most interesting one we've ever had.These five college professors from Texas Tech were sitting out in the backyard one evening,
50:54and we was in August, it's August 25th.And they happened to be discussing meteors,and so they were sitting there looking up in the sky,and all of a sudden this bunch of lights went over.And so one of them, they looked at each other and said,what was that? Nobody seemed to know.And so about a half an hour later,while they were still discussing the lights,
51:13and they said they wished something like thatwould go over again, and it did.So for, well, all together, in a period of,I believe it was five or six nights,they observed 12 of these things that went over.Well, they assumed that it was some kind of a missilethat the Air Force had been developing.And being nosy, they thought they'd find out what this,
51:35well, they reached this conclusion after they saw their first two,that they'd find out what these missiles were.So they set up their own measuring, crude measuring systems.They were able to set up or measure the angleson the houses and things in their backyardso they could tell like angles.thing went through and they tied it with a stopwatch. They also set up a baseline90 degrees to the path and incidentally these things always came over the same
52:02path and at roughly the same time every night so they knew about what wasgoing on. They set up this baseline and got each end with two-way radios and somehomemade, you might call them field lights or measuring angle measuring devices andtry to get an altitude. Well they were unsuccessful on that. However they did gettheir angular measurement across the sky.and it came out to be 30 degrees per second.That's the only measurement we've got on these things.We didn't hear about it until about a month after it happened,
52:31and I went down and spent quite a bit of time with these people.At first, we thought it was just one big hopesthat they were just out to get some publicity.But on investigating these people and talking to them,we found out that there was a professor of...I believe he was head of the physics department of Texas Tech,a gentleman who was head of the Petroleum Engineering Department of Texas Tech,A gentleman who'd spent the last five years in Alaska studying the Aurora and a doctor of mathematics.
53:01And he had an astronomer who didn't see these, although he was in on the investigation.Well, after they found out the Air Force was interested in it, they took an entirely different view.I mean, they found out that it wasn't one of our missiles.Then they began to wonder what it was, but the thing had happened and it was finished,and they couldn't get any more information for us.pictures, well incidentally before that they put a couple pieces in a longand see these to try to determine who else had seen these things and they puttheir names in the paper so that people could write to them and say I saw or I
53:34didn't see it and they got a lot of publicity consequently everybody in LubbockTexas was sitting on at night waiting for these things to go over and acollege freshman at Texas Tech had his camera ready when they went away one nightand this is the picture that he got these are this is one formand this is another formation.His story is thathe saw one go over and all of a suddendawned on him while trying to get a picture.
54:02He was a fairly good amateur photographer.He took these with a Kodak 35.He shot him a tenth of a second at 3.5on plus X film.He tracked himand consequentlywe don't know whether this blur isdue to the movement of the object or the movement
54:19of his camera since he shot him in a tenththe second. This is the first formation that went over and this is the second formation.Now we've tried every way that we know of to prove that these pictures are a fate.I've talked to the kid and in fact I talked to him twice.We've had OSI talked to him about three times.And the final last time they got him alone and they said,now look, this will let you back out on this if you want to.We'll never tell anybody as far as the newspaper is concerned.
54:48And everybody you've sold these pictures too,why they're really good photos, but if you'll just confess to the OSI,I will drop it.But he said, no, he said, these are pictures of something that flew over love of Texas on,well, this was, these had to be taken on 31st of August.He said, I don't know what they are, but he said, I took the pictures and that's all I know.And he signed a sworn statement for us, so he had to drop it right there.I mean, we've got no way to answer.
55:14This picture, just check with the observations of those five.No, sir, I was going to just mention that.The college professors say that these pictures are fake.I mean, they won't believe them at all.I say the things that they saw they know were too dim to ever take a picture of.Now, we cross-checked with the kid on that, and he said, well, he said, that's right.He said, after I took these pictures, he says, I didn't develop for two days because he said,I just thought, moaned mind that I wouldn't even have an image because they were, what I saw was,
55:46I thought it was too dim to take a picture of, but I just took a change.So he took those pictures.He finally developed him and that's what he came out with.And he sold those, I believe he got $8 for the original set of prints from a newspaper.We had those prints over to the photo.I have an A check come out.I mean, they are an actual image.There's no doubt about that.
56:08He could have taken a black sheet of paper and just punched holes in it and faked him very easily.But he swears up and down, he didn't do that.These things under a microscope show that the relative position of these things vary just a little bit in each picture.Well, it's doubtful if he took a piece of cardboard and just plunged holes in it.If he would be smart enough to vary the holes, the position of the hole in each exposure,he'd probably just take him four shots to the same thing and maybe moved his camera to give him a little appearance of motion there.The actual exposures or images are moved just a little bit in each exposure.Now again, that could come from the fact that maybe he tipped his paper as he took the picture,
56:59but we don't know. We've never been able to prove that they were fakes.The density on the negative compares to the density of a bright star.In other words, we used the same exposure in the same film and went out and took a couple pictures of bright planets.And the density of the negative is just a little bit more than that of a bright planet at night.So that's all we know about it.We haven't been able to.I didn't get two sets of lights in some cases other than a cement?No, sir, we haven't.
57:32We asked him about that, and he said he took the pictures to look like a straight line.He didn't notice two different formations.Now, I always hesitate to tell this because it could, again, be one big coincidence.but if you plot those points on a piece of, I mean large amount, on a piece of graph paper,and plot them out exactly, you'll see that as the consecutive frames,one row lights the back row will say moves up to the first row,and then it moves on ahead in the third picture.Now, that doesn't make sense at all because the fact that there are two different formations he took.
58:11I was placing them with the microphone, the second row, the same as the first.Yes, sir, I have the plot here, if you've been interested in seeing a little later.I'm just right now.We haven't been able to reach any conclusions at all.There's only two possibilities that we can think of.And here are the plots of those.Only two possibilities that we can think of.One of them is that it's still one great big hoax that the college professor just decided to see how much they could fool of people in love at Texas.
58:44they planted these pictures with the kid.The other thing is that there was knownthat there was a duck flight on any area at the time,that the ducks were flying across Lubbock.We tried, and the people in Lubbock tried to seewhether or not you could take a picture of ducks at nightjust from the reflection of the city lights,and that's impossible.
59:03So if these pictures are true, are not fakes,whether these pictures are not a duck,so we'll put it that way.The college professors won't believe the ducksstory at all. I mean, they say those were not ducks. We can, if they were ducks, they'd have to besuch and such an height to give that 30 degrees per second if they were that low. The fact, I think it comesout to be about 75 to 80 feet. The ducks would have to be that low to be flying 60 miles an hourand go through that angle at that certain time. And they say they are not ducks. Now, that's the only
59:36possibility we have or the only idea of what they could be. They might be ducks reflecting the citylights although it's it's still hard to believe that because just of all acircumstance it just doesn't sound like ducks a lot of people in out inNalbuk who are looking if it quacks like a duck it's a duckfor these objects on these nights did see ducks and when we were down or theycall us up and say I know what these lights are their ducks because I saw themand I could see the wings flapping and I could hear them hawking and I could see theirneck sticking out and you're wasting our good taxpayers money coming down here
01:00:15talking about it because they were ducks now but the once again there's abouthalf the people that saw these objects again say they were not ducks becausethey said we've lived in love of all our life we've seen ducks for the last 30years and those were not ducks so we're up against a blank wall on thiscertain this one case now we have we've reached several general I shouldn'tsay reached any conclusions there's two or three general facts about all of thethe sightings, the overall collection of sightings that we have.One of them is that on our good sightings, there's absolutely no noise.
01:01:00Every report is connected to these objects, no matter how low they are.They may be reported as being specced in the sky or down fairly low,and there's absolutely no noise reported.And once again, we don't know of any kind of a propulsion system that would do that.I mean, everything that we know of has some type ofnoise connected with it. Another thing is we've had a lot of radar returns, but we have neverhad a visual sighting linked up with the radar return. We've had two or three reports.How are you guys feeling? We've been listening to this for almost 30 minutes. Should we move on
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01:05:18performance playbook and discover why Spotify belongs in your media plan.Of that, but we've never been able to pin them down enough and get enough facts about them to make sure that they were both looking at the same thing.They had a project on this down at Holloman.They've been very much interested in it because they've been seeing it compared on a comparison.Holloman Air Force Base.The Holloman White Sands area.Okay.Something down there with their synethiola.
01:05:48They don't know what it is, and it could possibly be a slow-moving daylight media.Now, I'm not an astronomer, but I understand such things exist.They got pictures of it, and they were able to track it.However, they saw about five or six of these things at once, it was right after they launched a missile,and they had their scan-your synodilites pointed up in the air,and they saw these four or five things right behind a missile,and they got the word to swing over on those and forget the missile,and they're a little bit doubtful as to whether or not all stations track the same object.
01:06:24So, consequently, their readings are a little bit off,but they did come up with an altitude reading of about 150,000 feet.The speed was very great.They came up with the speed of about 3,500 miles an hour,but again, they won't back that up because they aren't sure of the conditionsthat these readings were made under.That's the only time we've ever come really close to getting any accurate data on thesethings.
01:06:51And I want to say again that it could be that it was a meteor in a daytime.Now they have another type of phenomena or object or something floating around down that area,and that's these greeny fireballs.I don't know really you've been reading about that in the paper with.There's a doctor, Lincoln LaPaz, down in Albuquerque, the University of New Mexico, has beenmaking a big deal out of these green fireballs they appear to be uh similar to a meteorexcept that they have a definite flat trajectory uh they're reported to be a brilliant greenish bluecolor and they uh they don't explode i mean they appear to be very low about a third or a fourth
01:07:33the size of a full moon and they're very low and they just go out like that they don't explodenow dr lepaz's theory on this thing is that if it's a normal meteor they shouldbe a terrific explosion because of the size of these things that indicates that they're down low in the atmosphere and there should be a terrific explosion when they go when they get down low enough to explode it's again we don't know what they are I mean they actually exist there's no doubt about it I mean it's not anybody's imagination because they've been reported by well dr. Lepaz himself has seen one and we've had some very fine reports and they all follow the same path there's a definitelyflat trajectory right across the well parallel to the earth's surface theythey go out with no explosion and they're brilliant bright green now airlinepilots see them and maybe if they meet them head-on or something like thatthey'll rack the airliner up just about toss everybody out of seats becausethey think they're gonna have a hit-on collision with this whatever it
01:08:34will be now Cambridge labs have been working on that for two years and theycame up with no conclusions whatsoever as to what they might be so I understandwe're going to take it over again and see if we can't possibly come up with some idea.We've talked to, well, Dr. Kaplan's idea is that they come from Russia.He said that they're using some kind of a self-destruction missile, and they're zeroing in on Los Alamos.Now, that's a good story.I mean, it sounds really exciting, and there's a possibility.I mean, we can't say that it isn't because we don't know what it is.
01:09:12We've talked to Dr. Kaplan quite a bit on his subject, probably knowing from the University of California.He thinks that they're either some kind of possibly a new meteor that we are not familiar withor some phenomena that's related to the Aurora.He claims that he can duplicate his color in his lab, and I'm not sure of just exactly how he does it.I believe he uses, well, I don't know, I won't say, I've got a report, but I don't want to quote something I don't know about.But anyway, he can duplicate this color, and he believes that that's what it is.Now, as I say, that is a definite division of these things.I mean, they definitely exist, and our problem is to find out, really find out what they are.
01:10:01If there's some kind of phenomena, then we can turn it over to the astronomers and let them take it done.If they should happen to come from Russia, then we better start finding out what they're trying to do.How many of these screen like work you have?We have quite a few, sir.I'd hate to say, I mean, I couldn't tell exactly a number,but they started out, I believe, in 49, did they, sir?There was a big outbreak of them in 49,and they seemed to appear in January, or in December and January,
01:10:29in that period between the years.And they coincide with a meteor shower.I don't believe, I don't remember the name.of it is, but for a long time they tried to tie them in with that meteor shower.But just recently, now, in the last year, they begin to occur more over the whole yearinstead of coming at one time.OSI, Dr. Lepaz worked for OSI in 49 on these, and they tried to come up with a conclusionthey couldn't.
01:11:01They've also spent a lot of time trying to find any fragments and have never been successful.I mean, they've been able to triangulate these things and get a heck of a lot of reportsand people who have seen them, or seen one of them,and then work their triangulation like they do in large meteors,but they've never been able to find any parts.They want us to the fires to pick up, put a dust collector on the B-29and try to fly through the area right after these things occurred,try to pick up any dust that they might have left in the upper atmosphere,
01:11:31but they didn't find anything at all that was.That's interesting.They really went all out to try to find any trace evidencefrom these green fireball.phenomena. These were huge. There were so many reports in the earlier trenches that were released aboutthese green fireballs. I know Richard Dolan talked a lot about them as well when it comes to likethe USOs and and whatnot. And he was most fascinated by how many files there were on this wave ofgreen fireballs back in the late 40s, early 50s. The fact that they were like putting send a planes up
01:12:09to try to fight dust and fragments of that.these things and they couldn't. That's pretty interesting. That doesn't sound like a mediameteor to me, but what do I know? What do I know? So we keep going with the audio, guys?We're almost 40 minutes into the audio. I see other YouTubers are now getting on the train andlive streaming. So I thank you guys for being here with us today. I really do appreciate that.We just, you know, it's hard to keep up with these other bigger YouTube channels. So the fact that you'veus your home for kind of breaking down this release. It means a lot to me. So thank you. I see ourlovely, lovely moderator, Suzanne is here. Welcome, welcome. What color, shack? They were green.
01:12:57They were green. Let's keep hearing Rupelt. Why not, right? Getting used to him by now.He's like that fun uncle with the UFO stories. Indicate that anything unusual is going on. SoSo we're up against a stone wall on these things too.I mean, all we've got just people's ideas,we've got no proof as to what they actually may be.Now, one of our approaches on this thingis going to be the use of defraction gratings on cameras.This is Dr. Kaplan's idea.
01:13:29He says that we can, and I should say he says,well, he knows that we can take a very expensive cameraand put a defraction grading on it.give them to these guards around Sandia and white sands and all these places where the guards are outdoors 24 hours a day and every time they see something it's unusual just point the camera in it and take a picture and he says that he can take the reading and match him up and either by known objects or match him up in his lab and tell us what the composition is of this object that's admitting this light now we haven't just strictly in the planning stage now we haven'tdone very much except Dr. Kaplan is now trying to figure out the cheapest camera that he canbuild for us and the most rugged camera so these guards can throw it around and still we'll getsome decent pictures of these objects. Another thing that we've done is recently we briefedAir Defense Command on this whole project and have got their cooperation with their radar scope
01:14:33cameras. As I mentioned before, we have had quite a few unknown radar returns. These thingsof the Air Defense Command radars tracked objects going anywhere from 1,000 up to about 3,500miles an hour.We've never been able to determine, however, that these weren't.Malfunctions in a radar set are due to some type of atmospheric phenomena.We've tried to get the weather charts at the time, or weather conditions, at the time thisphenomenon has occurred, and try to correlate that data and show that due to a certaintype of weather condition that they had this type of return.
01:15:10Now, we.This is so interesting to me.It's so like, it's almost an oxymoron that you have repelt back during the sign grudge daysand how the lengths they went to investigate UAP.I meantrying to get weatherdata at the time ofthese thousand mile per hour
01:15:46possible objectobjects being tracked atradar and whatnot. Like could itbe atmospheric? Could it be weather phenomena?Could it be a glitch in the radar?Things like that.These things, they taketime and resources and
01:16:03money andmanpower, woman power.like they really went all out to try to explain these phenomena and now here we have arrowwe have arrow that all the UFO things are being reported to and they don't do shit they look atvideos they try to find some data and then they come to no conclusions or anythingthey're not sending people out to investigate these things.Don't tell me they're going out and looking at like the weather at the time of an incidentand things like that to try to explain these things.
01:16:52And now they're cutting deals with civilian-run UFO organizationsto play catch-up and get their historical report out that they're a year late on.one year late on,365, 24-hour days.They have yet to release that.So what are they going to do?All the money and resources that they might have,they're giving to a civilian-run organization for their historical files.
01:17:27Which is great.Make that coin, David Marler,keep the historical record center open.that thing till the end of time.It's incredible.I cannot wait to go to that goddamn Mecca.But they tried so hard back then,40s, 50s.
01:17:48And now we have error.I just, it's crazy to me.All right.I haven't had too much luck on that angle.So now we're going to try to get radar scope camerasand get pictures of this stuff.And then we'll know.And before we just had the radar observers interpretation of what he saw in a scope, we think that with pictures probably we can do a little bit more with this.
01:18:14Another step further in that, and we haven't done anything on this except talk about it.And it may get into the point where we're going to do this, and that is try to put in a long focal length camera, trying to match a local long focal length camera with the radar spinner.So whenever this radar operator gets a return, all you have to do is poke a button,and this camera will take a picture of the area of the sky that the radar spinner is pointing at.And in that, if we get that far, and if we get a bad, funny return, we'll say,and a usual return on a scope, and if we get an image, no matter how big the image is,on the photographic plate or on the film at the same time,or then we can say that this radar operator was actually picking up something.
01:19:00I mean, that would be a great help to us now because we don't know for sure if they're even picking anything up.But that's the next step and it's still in the planning or even in the talking stage right now.That's about the main thing we're going to try to do as far as future plans is concerned.We want to try to get some concrete data to say that these things exist.Up to the present time, we've got no real proof that anything even exists.The only thing we've got are reports from very reliable people that do have a lot of details in them, but the details aren't the kind that we want.I mean, they don't give us enough data as to the possible performance or anything else that we might need on these objects.The official Air Force viewpoint is that we've got enough good reports from reliable people to be interested in this.
01:19:53We can't back up any of these books by Scullier-Kee-Hoeho and say that we know that they're for reliable people.from Venus or that we know they're from Russia or that we even know they exist.I mean, there's a possibility that everything is being reported is some as a balloon orIt's so interesting to hear him actually reference Kehoe and Scully. That's, oh wow, what a time. What a time to be ineuphology. I'm jealous. What I would get for the Kehows and the Frank Edwards and the, you know,the Frank Scullies of the past.Now we haveliterally insert any
01:20:37name here.Oh, Rupelt.What I would give.As a meteor or ducksor anything you can think of that somebodyjust saw them from an odd angle orunder odd lighting conditionsand they looked like something else.
01:20:54But it's at the present timewe have enoughfaith in these people have beenturning into reports to say that we don't exactly believe that.I mean, we're going to have to get more proof before we can say that everything that'sbeing seen as some known object just viewed under different circumstances.I could go on for a long time telling you about the good reports we've had.I'd say about 20% of the 800 or 900 reports that we now have just cannot be explained.
01:21:27I mean, you can't say that looks like a meeting.You can't say that that could be a balloon if there's a balloon in the area because it just doesn't tie up.And most of these people have made these reports are well-established airline pilots.I mean, old pilots who've had a lot of flying time.The people have released these General Mills balloons have seen something.The people at White Sands have seen very odd things.Dr. LaPaz himself has seen a couple things floating over the mountains down New Mexico that he couldn't explain.And we've got about 20% of our reports are like that.
01:22:01But we can't go up to them and say,now you can't, this can't be your nuts.I mean, that would be our only answer, who knows.You're just crazy.But you can't go up to anybody and tell them that.I mean, they've seen something, and we don't know what it is.Now, well, some of the big questions that enter our mind on thisis one, the no sound business.
01:22:24If it actually exists and there's no, there's some type ofpropulsion, but there's no sound. What could it possibly be? Another big question is, and it'sgetting in the lines of psychology, why or how could a person look up at night or in the dusk,or even in the daytime, and see some of these things that they report. Now right along those lines,we had the same time these pictures were taken down Lubbock within two or three days that time,two women were driving along in a car, and all of a sudden they looked out over the techTexas planes and they saw this object that they described as being top shaped, like whenthese old-fashioned tops you put a string around and pulled.
01:23:04It was silver and it was hovering along over the prairie and they drove up where they approachedit and as they approached it why the thing began to take off like that.Well, we checked on these women and found out that they were just as reliable as yourwives or anybody else.I mean, they didn't have any reputation of being habitual liars or stretching storiesor anything like that. They were just good old Texasfarm wives or all they were. And wequestioned them, but that's their story. I mean, they said
01:23:34that's what we saw. We don't know what it was. We're leaving up the Air Force totell us what we saw. Well, Thunder, we can't tell them.Once again, it goes down and back.Is that the Cash Landrum incident he's referring to?Where the women were literally burned and got like radiationfrom the object.And then when they went to the Air Force for help, they said, yeah, we can't help you.Bye.
01:24:04I don't know.I don't know.Maybe he's referring to two other women in Texas.But that's interesting.What year was the cash lounge room case?Oh, man.That might have been much later.I don't remember.
01:24:17My UFO knowledge is going to shit.Guys, help me out.Help me out.Help me out.Father Rupelt.The point, how much can people imagine?At the same time, these Lubbock pictures were taken.In fact, it's the same night.
01:24:35A guard in his life from the Sandia base and Albuquerque were sitting out in their backyard.And all of a sudden they looked up and he saw this big dark shape go over.And they said it was a, it looked a lot like a flying wing type aircraft.And it was down about 150 feet and it just scared the dickens out of them because it was so low.and they could see little exhaust.I was way off.1980 was castellandrum.Wow.
01:25:02Wow.Any good points I hador good faith I hadfrom you guys of my UFO historyis now gone.Sorry.I'm sorry.All right.
01:25:17Back to someone who knows something about UFOs.Flames on the back of the airplane.Well, we check them again,and once again,found out that they're just good normal people. I mean, the guy's been a guard at Sandia for a goodnumber of years, so he's reliable to that extent. I mean, they don't usually hire psychopathiccases to guard places like Sandia. And just out of curiosity, we sent these pictures down to thatguy. And the OSI showed him to him. He said, yeah, he said, that's what I saw. But he said,
01:25:48it was these little lightsor the exhaust stacks that Isaw. And ithappened on the same night that these pictures weretaken, just about two hours beforethese people saw this thing atLove Up. So, I mean, it's probably acoincidence. But again, you can't say it's a
01:26:06coincidence. I mean, we can't get enough factsto ever pin it down, but it'sone of those things that's justvery interesting to work on.Driving nuts after so long of time,but then we try to keep going.Well, that's about all that I had.What sort of performance stated do you get out of these radar return?
01:26:29It varies. It varies quite a bit. Usually high speed. My high speed, I mean anything over a thousand miles an hour.They, for a while, we thought we had it pinned down.That's so fast.Because the return always went over the station. It came in, went through the ground clutter, practically directly over the station,went out the other side. Now they claimed that that was the indication ofsomething, I'm not sure, interference in the air station, something like that.But lately, they haven't been doing that. I mean, they'll come in to the,end of the range, and they'll maybe make it turn and go out. Now, we had one
01:27:06in case from the state library. And this GCA operator wassitting there looking at a scope and all of a sudden you saw these two objects come in.They were coming in about four or five hundred miles an hour.And at the same time as C-47 was coming in, he was going to land it's 47.Well, he noticed they were on a collision course, so he called the tower and said,tell those two unidentified airplanes, they're on a collation course, which is 47.So the tower just called in a blind.The tower said, there's no other airplanes out there.
01:27:34The radar man said, yes, there is.The tower just called in a blind and said, you two unidentified airplanes, you're on a collation course with a 47.Just they said that these two returns made a turn.Now, once again,If we got coincidence or if we actually got something?See, I mean, it's English.So that's about the only conclusion we can draw the end.But that's some of the things we run into.
01:28:02I mean, we run into a lot of that kind of stuff,where we'll have a lot of small situations that all build up into a big one.And it might be just a coincidence.It might be, we may put our imagination into it unconsciously,We're trying to keep away from them.We try to stay right and straight and narrow.I mean, we don't want to be influenced either way on this thing.They may be from Mars, but if they are, we don't want to think they are.
01:28:28We don't want to think they're all balloons.I mean, we try to stay right in the middle of the road.And we had a real interesting one from...I love always like, okay, I'm done.Wait a minute.There's another interesting case.This is so cool, though.It's cool hearing and bring up the, you know, the highly anomalous cases,
01:28:48the unsolved cases.I think it was something like 700 cases remained unresolved by the end of Project Blue Book.That's a lot.That's a lot.It's crazy.Feltie says, you're a UFO expert.Get your case history straight, bro.Thanks, Feltie.
01:29:09Thanks, man.Look, I got a lot going on, okay?I can't keep all these things in my head.my comprehension skills are not what they used to be.My retention skills are not what they used to be, I should say.Let me tell you one more story.He says the Outcast Creative.He just keeps going.
01:29:31Again, it's like that fun uncle.He's like, and another thing.Oh, man, I love it.I love it.Let's start to wrap things up with Mr. Eddie Rupels here.And then we'll move on to some files and get you guys out of here to enjoy your morning.If you're just joining us, we're breaking down trench six of the Pursue Initiative over at war.gov.They just released UFO videos.
01:29:54Most of them suck major balls.They have this audio that we're listening to right now of Edward J. Rupelt, which is pretty damn cool.We've almost listened to the entire thing.And if anything, this is worth it.And I think lastly, we're going to look at some of the files after that.just a few. So let's finish things out here.New Jersey, around Sandy Hook and Fort Modduth, here not too long ago, these pilotsin the T-33 chased something. Just about 10 minutes later, all our radar stations in that area
01:30:33began to pick these objects up going back and forth all over the skies and we thought,boy, this is it. So we tore up there to find out and why the story sounded real fine.and his T-33 pilot saw this great big dish-shaped thing over there,and he took out after it, and he couldn't catch it.And then the radar stations began to pick up these signals,and they were clocking speeds up to 3,500 miles an hourand everything else.Well, it turned out that the pilots had seen a big balloon.
01:30:59It was larger, a normal weather balloon,had been launched from Fort Monde.And they were a little bit mixed up with their rate of closureand stuff like that, had seen a balloon.And the radar crews, the first radar crew,had picked up a probably just an ordinary aircraft, but they were giving a demonstration to a bunch of kernels and the operators got a little bitFlustered on the whole thing and they couldn't lock in this automatic tracking so they assumed the thing must be going about3,500 miles an hour. It turned out the reason they couldn't lock it in is they were just too excited and got a little bit
01:31:31followed up on their procedures and from then on why they were picking up weather balloons with theseradar reflectors hanging on and everything else.And the students, incidentally turned out they're mostly student radar operator,picking his stuff up.The headquarters had called in and hadn't explained anything.They just said, get on your radioscopes and look for these mysterious objects floating around.Well, that's all it took for these kids because, well, they saw everything.Well, what at first appeared to be a very good sighting just all broke down and we'd get enough facts.
01:32:04Now, maybe they'll all turn out to do that.But so far, we've got an awful lot of them that we can't.can't even come close to explaining.I guess that's about all I had.If you got any questions, well, we'd be very happy to discuss any aspect of this whole thing with you, folks.Have you seen your section here?No, sir, I haven't.How about the thing you saw one day?
01:32:23Oh, I saw something one day.But it was just a large meteor, one of these green fireballs or something.It was a lot of these green fireballs down in Texas.But it was, that's all.Interesting.ever seen. But I may at the risk of repeating some of these points. Let's fast forward to the end here.Senator Ruffelt mentioned around 800 cases that we have in our files. We know that that's only a portion of the sightings.Those are the ones that have managed to be reported to some military base and then through channels get to us.
01:33:10You can read local newspapers almost anywhere in the country.If you read them over a period of time, you'll find stories on these things occurred.I'm going to go to the end here, guys.But we don't know what he was chasing.We've reports on training with pilots when they left.So we found out one thing, that is the newspapers surpass the Air Force in their intelligence channels.They're good.I mean, there's just no getting around.
01:33:40So we can't buck them, you can't lick them join me, that's about our policy.Well, actually it goes a little further than that.I mean, it's a wonderful ally.I think the project is very, and it's handling a lot just through difference in opinion or, you know,changes in opinion.There's been great interest in it and then it would fall away, not too much interest,in great interest.And that's officially too, as well as,
01:34:10public. We feel that by going right down the line taking every case we got and trying to getto get additional facts and encouraging anybody and everybody to give us information. There area lot of groups that are interested in this. I don't know whether any of you read theTime article a few weeks ago on the Saussex. There's a group out on the West Coast that'sin a spare time trying to get all of these cases. You can't work on it.We feel that that group, if we're quite frank with them, would be very cooperative and help us.I mean, we're not trying to hide anything.We're trying to get help.
01:34:52You do have a problem on how far you can go publicly,but I think possibly this life type article will help.If they publish what we expect.That appears.This medium has been declassified in compliance with applicable executive.order statutes and regulations.Okay.Apparently that's it.
01:35:22Wow.That was interesting.Definitely worth a listen, for sure.For sure.I really enjoyed that.What did you guys think?Let me know in the chat.Should we move to a couple of these files?
01:35:36I am interested to see some of these.Let's go to the first files I'm going to look atwith you guys here is aarchival collection of U.S. Air ForceDirector of IntelligenceRecords relating to reported, quote,flying disc incidentsduring the period from September
01:35:59through December of 1952.So again, we're back in the Rup HealthDays. So let's take a look atthese quick.Pretty interesting.Hold on.Find this here.I got to make sure I'm
01:36:15on the right page.D105. Okay, let's look at D105.All right, see if you guys can see this here.So this is literally declassified and is called flying discs.So we've just got a ton of files here, over 253 pages from 1952, a wave of flying discs.see if we can find anything interesting in here.Restricted Director of Intelligence.Attached error.
01:37:09Intelligence information reports are forwarded.Strategic command, okay?Give me some sexy saucers.Come on.Okay.Let's see here.Bear with me, guys.This is my first time looking at any of this.
01:37:35as I'm sure it is for some of you.Oh, a letter from J.A. Samford.He's that famous guy who did the kind of press release back during Project Sign.In view of your kindness and commenting on True's recent exposure of the fine saucer little men hoax,I feel that perhaps our latest report on the saucer problem and the December issue will appear next Wednesday will be of interest to you.Looks like they were working in conjunction with some media at the time.Letter of appreciation.Okay.
01:38:27Looks like some reports on possible film that was taken of flying saucers.Interesting.Interesting.Going up in the chat here.Jamie says, are they all from one part of the country or many parts?I don't know.That's a great question, Jamie.Let's see.
01:38:59The contents include correspondence, memoranda, reporting forms, case summaries, distribution, and routing material.Pages 26 through 36 of the file refer to an incident reported near Tremington, Utah in July of 1952.Let's go to page 26.director ofNaval IntelligenceInterpretation of Movies ofUFOsThe attached movies are possibly the best
01:39:38documentary evidence yet obtainedon UFOs. They have been analyzed by theAir Force Photographic Laboratory.However, it is our desire to obtainan independent analysis by aseparate lab in order that we may betterinterpret the implications of these data.For these reasons, it is
01:39:54requested that as a completeas completean interpretation as possiblebe rendered by the Navyactivity.What's the incident?That's what I want to know.Okay, here we go.
01:40:19AviationNavy Supply Center,motion picture of UFOsenclosed 150-foot rollof processed 16-millimeteror color motion picture film.This took place about seven miles north of Tremington, Utah.Wednesday, July 2nd, 1952.
01:40:47First view.Let's see here.Clear skies.Driving from Washington to Portland, Oregon on the morning of July 2nd,my wife noticed a group of objects in the sky that could not be identified.She asked me to stop the car and look.There was a group of about 10 or 12 objects that bore no relation to anyI had seen before, milling about in a rough formation and proceeding in a west-westerly direction.
01:41:13I opened the luggage compartment of the car, got my camera out, loading it.I exposed approximately 30 feet of film.There were no reference points in the sky, and it was impossible for me to make any estimateof speed-size, altitude, or distance.Toward the end, one of the object's reversed course.It proceeded away from the group.I held the camera still and allowed this single one to cross the field of view, pickingended up again and repeating.
01:41:37I expended the balance of the film late that afternoon on a mountain somewhere in Idaho.Okay.So yeah, just huge saucer reports.So many, so many.Pretty interesting.That's pretty interesting.Let's see what else they got here.Okay.
01:42:08Let's go to some more current stuff.They have the entire transcript of the presentation by Edward Rupelt, if anyone's interested.You can get a full thing on that.Ooh, some stuff from ASAP.Hmm.The objectives of ASAP.Metallic glasses for aerospace applications.Okay.
01:42:42What are spintronics?Let's take a look at this one.This document is a defense intelligence reference document, a dirt, a technical referenceformat used by the Defense Intelligence Agency to capture baseline knowledge on a specifictopic for later analytic use.Okay, aerospace, blah, blah, blah.Dirt surveys metallic spinronics, a branch of electronics that seeks to use both the electric chargeand the magnetic spin of electrons to store,
01:43:24detect and manipulate information.This is way to techno babble.Way too much.Maybe we won't look at that one.Hmm.We got some Middle East mission reports.Should we look at one from Iraq?Let's look at this one.
01:43:54This sounds interesting.Let's see here.Bear with me, guys.Okay.So this one is a mission report.Let's see.I'm trying to find out more information about it.Okay, so a U.S. military operator reported observing UAP flying sporadically within the target area at various speeds between 80 and 180 miles per hour.
01:44:50Reporter estimates the size of a UAP to be between 1 and 2 meters, approximately 3 to 6 feet,and states that they were unable to determine the altitude of the phenomena.Hmm. Okay. See if there's any more further descriptions of this phenomena in Iraq. It doesn't look like it, but four to six feet in length. I guess that's pretty interesting.Periodically observed UAPs flying sporadically within the target area. According to the MTS, the UAPs were traveling at various speeds. Couldn't determine altitude. Didn't hinder altitude. Didn't hinder.the mission.Huh. Okay.There's one of those.A lot of Ossap stuff, Jimmy says, yeah.
01:46:13Which is, you know, aerospace, weapons, systems, applications, and whatnot.I'm going to have to dig deeper into a lot of that to see what we can extract from these files.I'm not seeing anything too earth-shattering or ground-breaking guys in the files,which is not that surprising to be completely.completely honest.This could be of interest.In Ossap, dirt having to do with invisibility cloaking theory and experiments.Anyone want to hear about that?
01:46:56That sounds fascinating.What?Let me pull this up.Hold on.Invisibility cloaking.Okay.Are you seeing this, guys?Okay, yeah, you are.
01:47:26So this comes from the D.I.R.or excuse me,the defense,yeah,defense intelligence agency.Invisibility,cloaking theory and experiments.Give me them UFOs.
01:47:46Okay, so camouflage,you know,they're obviously looking at the principlesof the stealth bombers and whatnot.Recent examples of camouflage.So, yeah,they're getting really technicalin terms of camouflage.
01:48:05And it looks like,camera reflection andrefraction, transparency.They even reference H.G.Wells Invisible Manin these unclassified files.What?Interesting.
01:48:21Cloaking.So just a lot of theories.Oh, my God.This is an officialDIA documentand it has apicture of Jennifer Albaas the Invisible Woman
01:48:39from Fantasticfor and they couldn't have founda more risquephoto to show of herway to goDIA way to goguysto all our guys
01:48:54oranyone who finds womenattractive in the chatyou're welcomehere you gothese are your tax dollarsat work guysum
01:49:09this is prettyinteresting I guessI guess. I don't know.It's too much. There's way too much tobreak down with all thisfor sure.Jimmy.Oh, man.
01:49:27Let's see. We'll try to look atone more, maybe, guys, and thenwe'll call it a day.The videos, maybe we'llget one more video, to be honest.That would be, yeah, these are so,there's so much awesome shit in here,guys.
01:49:43biosensors, anti-gravity, a lot.It looks like space communications, advanced space propulsion.A lot of these files seem to be theory, you know, in terms of like the weapon systems,which makes perfect sense.A lot of it would be theory until it's put into motion and eventually weaponized.I mean, we're talking pages and pages of OSAP things.The majority of it is all.awesome for sure and then I would say the front end stuff is a lot of um
01:50:20project blue book files so we're not getting anything to groundbreaking in the filereleases I'm sure there's some very interesting things that will be extracted as the days go onand we will be sure to report on those for you guys um we will be doing a live stream thisupcoming Sunday to break down all the latest UFO in spacerelated news. We've got some news about the Pentagon and what they're doing with space warfare.We're going to break down the latest Bigelow podcasts with Jacques Valet. We've got aunfortunate, controversial story about Luis Alizando and his bar that he owns. And we also will betalking about obviously the waivers that UAP whistleblowers are allegedly going to be
01:51:12getting from, in conjunction with the White House and the Pursue Initiative.So a lot to talk about on Sunday for sure.This was a very real-time stumble-through attempt to break down the latest release.Not good.Not good.The videos, not good.The documents may be good.Someone better, smarter, and more patient than I needs to look at those.
01:51:40And again, as the days go on, I'm sure we'll be able to pull some stuff.And be sure to join us Sunday.And we'll highlight some of those for you guys from the trench release.Thank you, America.Vickrosis.Oh, man.But let me see if there's any other videos we can look at before we go.Dara-da-da-da-dan, unresolved.
01:52:14Yellow C.we looked at thatreport. Let's look at one from East China.We're going to watch a East China video.It's about a minute long.United States Indo-Pacific Command submitted a reportabout UAP to ARO consisting of 59 seconds of video footagefrom an infrared sensor aboard a U.S. military platform in 2020.
01:52:41All right.So let's take a look at this one.Bear with me, guys.get it up on the screen for you.Nope, that's not it.Okay, here we go.This is somewhere in the Indo-Pacific.All right, you're seeing that black object
01:53:13streak across in front of this boat.It's now getting tracked.Seems to have made a somewhat abrupt turn.The way this object seems to be flutteringmakes me think it's a bird,which most of these videos are.All right, they zoomed in a little,looks a little more cylindrical now.
01:54:04And that's it.Why?Why is that it?Why is this a minute long?What happens after this?Why do they do this?Why did they do this?Why?
01:54:18Why did the video just stop right there?We could have seen more maneuvers.Anything.These videos are a freaking joke, man.Freaking joke.Ant Big, thank you, Ryan.Always good to hear your initial thoughts.Thank you.
01:54:39Well, you know, we all have our own thoughts, theories, and opinions on what Pursue is doing.But, you know, some interesting stuff has come out of it.And like I said, we spent over an hour listening to Edward J. Rupelt.Did we learn anything from it?Maybe a little in terms of like the context of Project Blue Book and, you know, his clearpassion to try to unravelthe mysteries, whether conventional explanations or not.But he sounded pretty open-minded.
01:55:07He admitted we have a lot of cases we can't explain.And, you know, I can't say they're from Zeta reticuli, but we cannot explain them.These are not United States aircraft.These are not enemy aircraft.Like, it's pretty interesting.But maybe there will be more interesting things that I clearlyYou know, we're also,Gimme, give me, give me, give me one, want, one.
01:55:33Disclosure takes time.Transparency shouldn't, though.Transparency, I can't talk.So, I don't know.I don't know.It seems like the trenches just get worse and worse and worse as time goes on.We are down to not even sloppy seconds, but like sloppy eighths, sloppy sixths, I guess.But, yeah, there you go.
01:55:58There you go.spent over two hours.These are my live gut reactionsto the trench inreal time. I'm going to be honest, I was really let downby a lot of this stuff.Maybe one interesting video, the one fromthe Yellow Sea. But other
01:56:15than that, I didn't think it was worth lookingat the videos too much.Maybe, again,the files will see as peoplestart digging again. This just droppedthis morning, trench six.Suzanne and I will have more to report on with Trench 6 this upcoming Sunday on the live stream for sure.Suzanne said, wow, on this one.
01:56:38I'm interested what you found interesting about that one for sure.But yeah, I think that's it, guys.I think that's going to do it for this live reaction to Trench 6.Thank you so much for waking up and stumbling through all this with me.You know, we weren't sure if anything good would come of it, but we did get what Eric Berlinson said we were going to get in our long presentation by Edward J. Rupelt.So I thought that was pretty cool. I'm not going to lie. Way to go, Eric Burlinson. You got that done, man. If anything, it'll be good for historical purposes, for sure.And I think if there's anything else before I get out of here and let you guys go on with your day, if you haven't,You can watch all 11 hours of our free virtual conference, Anomicon, which took place on September 12th.
01:57:35It's back in the archives right here on YouTube if you're watching this on YouTube.Just go to the Anomicon playlist, and it should be the first video up there.We had incredible speakers this year.We had Jim Harold as our master of ceremonies.We had Megan Medic from News Nation.We had Dr. Maya Cohen who talked all about cyborg anthropology.We had another anthropologist, Samantha Lee Treasure,who talked about alien encounters during out-of-body experiences.
01:58:07We had Lacey Williams talking about Appalachian folklore and cryptids,and the list goes on and on.And of course, our main event, our headliners of Anamicon were Bryce Sableand Brent Friedman of the Sound Delighton Frequency Podcast.They talked all about Hollywoodand the architecture of secrecywhen it comes to UFOs.And then they tease their formula
01:58:29that they just released over ontheir show. So be sure to check that outas well.So many incredible speakerswe had at Anomicon talkingabout everything you can possiblythink of ghosts, UFOs,cryptids,
01:58:45what else did we have?Past life regressions.We had it all. And itwas incredible. It's the highest view toAnamaCon yet, and we'rereleasing the talks individually on theYouTube channel as well. So you can check thoseout in the archives too.
01:59:01But I think that's going to do itfor today, guys. Thank you. Thank you so,so much for joining ustoday. If you haven'talready, please like and subscribe to theYouTube channel where we do stuff like thisall the time. Like I said,we do Sunday live streams where we break down
01:59:17all the latest UFO news. And we alsodo stories from UFO Reddit.of which we did one this past week, Suzanne and I,where we did encounters with the men in black,actual cases of people claiming to have encountered the men in black.We dug deep into the corners of Reddit to find these stories,and we brought five of them to you guys,and they were creepy as hell.
01:59:41So you can go back and watch that on YouTube,or you can listen to it on the Summerless Guys podcast as well.If you're not subscribed to the podcast,you can find it wherever I get your podcast.and be sure to rate and reviewsomewhere in the skies on Apple and Spotify.That helps us out tremendously, tremendously.So thank you for that.
02:00:01And, yeah, be on the lookout for some interviewsin the very near future.We have Richard Dolan returning to the podcastto talk all about his USO's, Volume 2 bookthat just came out.We'll have our good man, Inspector Roy Teague,on the show very soon to talk aboutclose encounters of the police kind.
02:00:20He is an active,officer here in the UK. So we're going to talk about the reports that have come in frompolice officers all over the United Kingdom throughout the decades. He's compiled over 250 casesof that. So we'll break down the most compelling ones. What the protocol is when police officersencounter UFOs or get reports on UFOs. And if he himself has gotten reports at his departmentdepartment and how they handle that.So really looking forward to that as well.At Big Settanamo con was awesome.
02:00:55Thank you.Thank you for tuning in.We worked our butts off and so did all our incredible speakers.So I'm glad you enjoyed it.We're really glad you enjoyed it.Cool, cool, cool.I'm just going up in the chat, seeing if I missed anything.Awesome.
02:01:12Keep the conversation going in the comments below, guys.Not in the live chat, but in the comments below this.video what did you find most compelling about trench six was anything worth our timethat we covered today let me know if there's any files that you think are ofinterest that we could bring up on this Sunday's live stream let us knowlink link to it in the the comments or give us the number you know of thefile they're all like D106 D107 whatever it is yeah help us out we wouldtruly truly appreciate that as well but I think that's gonna do it thank
02:01:48you, UAP rad for being here.Very good to see you in the chat, my friend.But yeah, that's going to do it, guys.Thank you.Thank you so much for joining me today for this very impromptu live reactions to the Pursue Trench 6.And we will see you this upcoming Sunday on the live stream.But in the meantime, I will leave you with our mantra as always.And that is keep your feet on the ground, but never stop searching somewhere in disguise.
02:03:07there's nothing to hide. There's nothing to hide at all.
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