1303 - Fern is Into Sex Toys, Domming Women, Subbing for Men and More
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03:01 were going to sponsor my show. And they were sending me all this product. Everything and me and her got talking. And then I found out she's got like very into the king scene and she's a switch and she's going to school to be a sex service. I'm like, would you want to come on the show and tell me your life story? Because, you know, I'm always digging for guests. Okay.
03:16 I'm always looking for guests and I'm digging into people's lives even off air. And she was like, okay. So we do talk about the sex toys in the beginning because they are my new favorites and I got a whole bunch of them. But what we really do mostly on this episode after 10 minutes of the sex toy talk, the sex toy recommendation talk, we do get her whole life story. She's super interesting. She's a total switch.
03:39 She's a very dumb with women, submissive with men, but she likes to switch it up. She's into all kinds of different kinks. She talks bigger picture. She talks specific experiences with men, with women. And we also talk about how and why. She just recently got into how and why she decided to become a sex therapist. She's currently going to school. You get a good overview of her whole life story.
04:04 Plus, learn a lot about kink in the kink world. She's very knowledgeable. She's super interesting to talk to. You're going to love the episodes. I'm going to get right to it and be right back on with Fern. Hey, Fern. Welcome to the Strictly Anonymous podcast. How are you today?
04:17 Hi. I'm good. I'm good. Thank you. And yourself? I'm good. So listen, Fern. You know, I was talking about sex toys.
04:24 and other things. And then I found out you have like, you know, you're really into the kink world and you're going to become a sex therapist. And I'm like, oh, my God, why don't you come on the show and talk about your life story and you were down? And I was like, oh, and I would expect that somebody who's in the sex toy business would have a sex background in other ways. I mean, it's not like you're like this really vanilla person selling Motor Bunny and
04:46 PICA. I mean, those are the two new sponsors that I have. By the way, they have sent me. I got toys from Pika and Motor Bunny and I'm slightly obsessed. Like before you started working for them, did you get all the products in? So it's actually quite interesting. So I started working with them and it was like, hey, do you want a sex toy? And I hope you said yes.
05:09 Yeah. Hell yet. Send it. Send it. Which motor bunny did you get? I have the motor bunny OG. Okay. That's what I have.
05:17 Yeah. I'm going to be honest with you. The buck scares me. Like, nothing's powerful. Oh, really? Well, the buck is like, okay, so the buck like thrusts too, right? Like the OG swirls and vibrates. First of all, I have not turned that vibration up totally all the way.
05:36 Like you don't even, like I don't even know what would happen. You haven't? Like 20 seconds. No, it would ruin everything. It would be too fast. I like to take my time. Oh, no, no. Oh, no.
05:47 You have to try it with a flat attachment. Oh, really? And just struttle it. Yeah, but you'd come in 30 seconds. But that's fine because I can promise you now. I'm going to have multiples. Multiple and you're going to be so sensitive and it is like you have to try it at least once. Oh, okay.
06:09 I will. You have to crank it all the way just for, you know, I mean. I feel like I might have a heart attack. Yeah, honestly. I had an empty house and I. Yeah. Yep. And then I lay on the bed for about 30 minutes.
06:26 And I can tell you now, my brain was like a marshmallow. It was, it was, nothing. Yeah, I mean, I swear to you. I was like, holy fucking shit. I might have a heart attack if I'd turn this all the way up. Like, barely any of it was like so overpowering the first time I used it. I didn't use. I think I did use the flat thing.
06:44 And I was like, holy fucking shit. And I was like lightheaded. I was like, oh my God. And then I learned that you, I really don't like to be on top, by the way. And I say this in the ad. Like, I don't really. like being on top. I'm not like the most girls. I, you know, so I turn it to the side, you know, and that's what I like about the buck. You know, the buck is like sideways, right? But
07:01 the original you could turn sideways. And they have a fucking machine, which I think is like super fun too. If you want thrusting. Oh, the jack. Yeah, the jack. That is, that is possibly one of the most interesting looking toys that yet again, I mean, I think I'm just scared of the amount a thrust because I know myself, I will get hurt. And I will, that is not a fun ER trip. How did you do this? I got jacked. No. By the jack. Right. Exactly. So, yeah, no, I would, I'm very, you know, interested in all sorts of very interesting things. And I'm, I push boundaries. But the buck, I can promise you now I will end up hurting myself because the OG is powerful. I don't know the buck without thrust. I know. I know. They did give me, they said pick out any one you want. I'm like, just send me whatever.
08:01 Because I don't know. I didn't want to be like, yeah, I could send me the most expensive one because I think that is the buck. But I really like, oh my God, I could sell the shit out of these motor buddies because it really is like the, I don't even think it's a sex toy. It's like a sex machine. Like it really. And you know, I have to say, I was a little concerned because I did some Googling beforehand. like, and everyone was talking about it sounds like an airplane, blah, blah, and you know, and I live in Manhattan, in an apartment, and I have neighbors, and I'm like, maybe I can't get this thing, but it's not that fucking loud. People are such exaggerators. Like, I mean, it makes noise. You can't do it with, like, your roommate in the next room. They're going to hear it, but it's not like, it doesn't sound like a plane's taking off. It's, like, ridiculous the way people were making it seem.
08:41 I think people, it also goes down to the vanilla thing, you know, because, I mean, sex is so taboo you can't oh no you had six wow okay cool you have sex toys oh core that's that's like the mindset a lot of people still have and I mean even people who own sex toys they're like oh my god I'm such a hell I have a tiny little bullet vibrator no you're not I know I used to get sex toys for all my girlfriends when I was younger that never had them and never played because I always love sex toys I thought it was like so much fun I'd go like on adam and eve and I just like order up a storm when I was horny and then be like, oh my God, you know, and you get it in the mail when you're not horny. It's like, if you go shopping for food when you're hungry, you know, you kind of like over by.
09:23 But it was like, oh, it was so much fun to get it in the mail. And I'm always like, why don't people use this stuff? Because sometimes, you know, guys do have like this weird thing about it. Like they're intimidating. I mean, there's a lot of reasons why people don't implement them in their sex life. But I think my audience does. And I'm here to say, like, and I told everybody, like the motor buddy is the best fucking thing ever. You know, I do have $50 off.
09:43 So anyone wants that. There is a code and everything. in the description. And then you also, though, work for PICA. And we're going to get to your life story. Okay, but I'm just going to tell. I'm just going to talk sex toys. Because I do in my Discord channel, by the way, I have like a whole sex toy recommendation
09:56 channel. And people are in there chiming in. I think the best way to get advice on like the best sex toy is word of mouth. You know what I mean? You can't just like see it online and be like, oh, it's great. And it's great. And it's like, you got to like get a recommendation for somebody else, you know. And I think that that is like really important.
10:13 And I did try. They just sent me the PICA. okay and someone's like oh pika p i k a they're like that means pussy in norweg in in in norway or something like that do you know what the where the name comes from is that like does that is a pika aka pussy is that the name no oh okay i think that is a very very happy coincidence but a pika is actually an animal it's like family of the rabbit family it is super cute i think you don't know the real story i think they're fucking with you okay i'm sorry you think that that's a coincidence okay There's no way.
10:46 They're just fucking with you. And they're lying to you, okay? They called it Pika because they could say it's an animal, but they know it's pussy. Okay, it's the perfect name. Well, you know what? I think we're just going to have to get T-shirts made with Pika might mean pussy too. I like that. Yeah.
11:04 That could be their slogan on the road side. But they sent me two different toys. One, like, so one was like the regular Rose thing, right? What are the names of those again? Okay. So the regular rose, just the suction one, that's the blossom. And that is, yeah, I'm going to be honest with you, the other, the licking one is my favorite one. That's my favorite.
11:28 Yes, yeah. So, yeah, the first time I got the flora out the box, I will warn you, if you get one, do not use it for the first time in the shower. Oh, you did? You know, it's suds. Yeah, I've got kids. It's so many time I get alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and don't do it when the shower is slippery with soap suds because I almost
11:53 hit my head and got a concussion. So I was a bit dazed for, yeah. Oh, my God, your kids came home to mom in the bathtub, passed out with her sex toy. I was on the bathroom floor for a good 10 minutes. And I used the, it was the floor a pro. Oh, the one with the little attachment? with a thrusting tail Oh my god
12:15 What the fuck? Okay so I get them they send it And this is like the fun part of my job Like everyone I feel like it's jealous Listening to me talk about all this free shit that I get About like whatever I worked my ass off So but I you know when I first got it I tried the floor
12:28 Alone because I'm like oh like this licking thing I'm like this is like the best thing ever So I like went on my Patreon I'm like oh my god this is so fucking good I hadn't tried yet I didn't I thought that little thing on the end Was like just a vibrator you know like But it's a little mini
12:40 fucking thruster I was like, this by far is top of the mountain, for sure. That little thruster thing. And I was like, I don't know what you're supposed to do with this, but I'm just going to put it in my pussy. I don't know. It's like the best thing ever. And then you can put it in your ass.
12:54 I mean, it's like, you can put it anywhere. You know, that, I'm not even going to lie to you the first time. I looked at it and I was like, no ways. I mean, like thrusting stuff. Dados, things that you say, they're usually bigger. You know, you want a little bit of that. Yeah. I'm no size queen by all means.
13:11 However, sometimes It looks so innocent I mean, it's tiny It's like the size of a lake I mean No, no, no, it's perfect There's something about it
13:22 That's what I thought too I was like this can't be to put in my pussy Because it's not as big as a dick It's like little But it's like when you use it It's like in conjunction With the other part of it At the same time
13:32 It's really like the perfect combination If it was bigger it'd be too much You know what I mean? 100%. That is why I almost hit my head Like fully And like I had to Yeah, it was bad.
13:43 That, you know what it is? It's that sharp little point. Like, it's not sharp, but like that little point that with those ridges where it thrusts. Yeah. And it just does something. Like, it hits all the spots. And then, I mean, yeah, you don't lost long on a mutter bunny. That thing, you'll still, you're not going to lost long with the floor either.
14:02 No. And, you know, I've had this great woman on my show, Susan Bratt, and she's like a sex expert, you know. And she talks about how, like, you know, women take a long time to. sort of like loop up and become like and get an erection. Like she talks about how like we have erectile tissue, no different than guys, right? And women need to get a boner before they could orgasm. So like stimulating all of it.
14:23 And it's not just the clit. It's everything inside. And that's what that little and it's not just the vibration. That thrusting at something that I've never experienced before. And I actually really love that it's not gigantic. It really is like, I don't know how they figure that out. But it actually was like it really is perfection. And I was like, oh, this is like my favorite thing.
14:43 I can't wait to tell people about it. For PICA, people get $15 off too. And there's a, there'll be a link. It's Picavive.com slash strictly. I'll put that in the description. People will click on it. Okay. Anyone who listens to my show knows I recently got a Motor Bunny original.
14:58 And I am effing obsessed with it. Okay. It is my new favorite sex machine. Okay. It is not a sex toy. It is a sex machine. It's a saddle-like vibration. Fuck toy. Okay, I don't know. It's like my favorite booty call guy ever. Let me tell you, I still have not put the vibration up until 10 because like literally you would get off in 30 seconds and I just like to savor the motor bunny. I turn it to the side. I put an attachment on. There are so many different attachments for the motor bunny. You name it. You could attach it to it or you could just use the flat attachment and vibrate the shit out of yourself and come in 30 seconds. But the actual attachment.
15:40 like swirls around and vibrates while you're sitting on it. Oh my God, it is like the best thing ever. Motor Bunny has the Motor Bunny original and the Motor Bunny buck, which also thrusts. And then they also have a fuck machine called the Jack. So I think a fuck machine is a great thing for any couple to introduce into their bedroom to have some role play fun. I promise you if you invest in a motor bunny sex machine, you're going to be super effing happy. This holiday season, why not treat yourself, your girl to any of the motor bunny machines. And the good news is they are offering my listeners $50 off your purchase. So all you got to do is go to the description.
16:24 Click on the link. It's motorbunny.com slash strictly anon. And $50 is going to be automatically applied at checkout. Okay? That's motorbuny.com slash strictly an non. $50 will be automatically applied at checkout. or just go to the description and click on the link that it's not gigantic. It really is like, I don't know how they figure that out, but it actually was like,
16:47 it really is perfection. And I was like, oh, this is like my favorite thing. I can't wait to tell people about it. For PICA, people get $15 off too. And there's a, there'll be a link that's PICA vibe.com slash strictly. I'll put that in the description. People will click on it. I just felt like talking about the sex toys that you sort of work for is fun.
17:05 It's like I like word of mouth. you know what I'm saying? Like I highly recommend these and I don't like a lot of sex toys. Like I'm picky. You know what I'm saying? Like I've tried a lot of different things. Yeah, for sure. I'm like picky.
17:17 And I like what I like. There's one other kind that I like. It's like a sucking sensation that like, you know, and some people are like horrified that I recommended it because I think it hurts some people. But I'm like I like it. So when it comes to sucking toys. Yeah. You know, the most important part, like for, for example, the blog,
17:37 awesome from Pica. That one has a removable cap. So you don't have to have the suction. You can have this because it's got little stems, like little pollen stems almost in the inside. And it tickles you and it taps. So that's brilliant. However, when you're doing suction, like the most important thing that most people forget is lube. You have to go to town with lube and a good quality lube. It changes it entirely because if you're just sucking on dry skin. And again, like you mentioned before, you need to have your lady boner. You need to be, I don't know if you have to look at a man with a slutty little moustache or some really, really nice. Exactly.
18:20 A moustache does it for me at the moment. Like that is it. You know, that's me gone. And you just, you know, that with your little lady bodeer and then you hit it with a lot of lube. and it knocks out the part because I also felt suction toys were like what is this this is pointless Oh no I love them
18:37 Yeah yeah I like that But once I figured out little hacks in between Yeah that's smart oh yeah Yeah that's what I gotta tell people Because sometimes they're like oh that hurt I'm like oh it doesn't hurt me But like maybe like I'm doing all those right things You know what I mean like that you're saying
18:52 So it's good that you're the average person here to say So anyway those links are in the description Let's get to your life okay like you are you are going to school now to be a sex therapist and you are in like the kink community correct 100% on both counts that's me that that should probably go at the bottom of my my mug shot so my god I love it well I always like to go back and ask like you know like when I have a sex therapist on the shows and you know as well as somebody that's into any kind of like alternative lifestyle like we I always like to go back and be like you know when did you
19:24 realize you were into this kind of stuff I mean were you just very curious when you were younger about sex. Like, why become a sex therapist? And I don't know if Kink came first, you're interested in Kink or you're just in helping other people sexually. Like, which came first? My interest in Kink probably came first. I, and this was really bad. I was a teenager and I saw the movie, The Secretary. It came out in 2002. If you haven't seen that and you're in the King community or interested in the King community, it is. It's like a must. It's a have-do. It's at the top of my list. And I think I watched it about five times. How old were you at the time again? I was young, young. I wasn't, I wasn't supposed to watch it.
20:12 But no, I mean, listen, I have kids. So it's like, you definitely see them sort of like, you know, their interest early on. And sometimes like it must have been in you for you to like see that at such a young age in it for it to really stand out for you, to you. Look, I, I had a pretty wild childhood. So, no, I mean, you know, I was always the alternative kid. I never listened. And yeah, I think I was about 16, 17 when I saw this movie. Yeah. And it just mesmerized me.
20:42 And it wasn't even, it wasn't even like an innate sexual thing. Like, oh, wow, so naughty, you know. Yeah. It wasn't that. It was just, it was the relationship dynamic between the two, you know, Mr. Gray and his secretary. It was just this insane relationship, how it formed. And for me, it's the loyalty. And it's this innate trust. You are literally taking your life and entrusting it to somebody. And vice versa, I mean, you know, a lot of people assume that the submissive has no power.
21:19 That's where the power lies. And I think from that moment on it was just like, I know that I am screwed because I will never ever be able to have a normal life, like in terms of vanilla. There is no way in hell. And I've tried vanilla. Yeah. I was married for four months. Oh, four months? Oh, my God.
21:40 You tried. I tried. I was with him for like five years and we were married for four. And I was like, I woke up and I was like, do I have to do vanilla for the rest of my life? Oh, my God. I mean, the most interesting this is going to get is a. finger up his ass and I can't do that. Yeah, but wait, let's go. So that movie, the secretary, was it like a Dom sub kind of scenario going down, the secretary of the boss? Is that what was,
22:07 and she, and the secretary, I'm assuming, was the sub? Was it like hardcore BDSM or more just Dom sub? Because they're typically, like they don't always go together. No, they don't always go together. Yeah. No, I mean, you can have, I mean, your trad wives with the thorisive husband, without all the kinky, you know, gear and leather and latex. I mean, that is a traditional dominant submissive relationship. So they don't always go hand in hand. However, this one is, I mean, there is this one scene. Oh, Lord, it just like, it sends shivers down my spine.
22:42 She has a, like a restraint bar across her shoulders and her hands are, you know, kind of like the stocks. Her hands are, you know, cuffed in and arms are spread. And she picks up this paper because there's typewriters. I mean, he uses typewriters. And she picks up the paper with her mouth. And she has, yes, 2002, it's beautiful. Like, she has this penciled spirit on these heels and, like, the whole story progresses.
23:06 But this scene where she's walking down the hallway and she's got this paper in her mouth and she puts it on his desk. And there's another one where she's crawling on the floor with, again, the papers in her mouth. But it's not a, she doesn't look pathetic. You know, she looks hot. Like, it's Maggie J. Jelanol. Jake Jelanol's sister. Yeah, yeah.
23:27 She plays secretary except the last of me. I can't remember her name, but it wasn't important because it was just the, it was just this whole setting. And that tickled something in me because she didn't look meek and pathetic. You saw it as being hot and you wanted to be her. Are you,
23:43 like would you consider yourself a submissive? No ways. Oh, hell no. Oh, you're kidding. That's kind of interesting, don't you think? Because you were like, looking at her is like, that's so hot, but you're a dominant?
23:58 I'm a switch. Oh, okay. So you like both. I'm a switch. Yeah, I, so I swing both ways. And if I'm with a woman, there's no way and how a woman will ever dominate me. No ways.
24:09 Oh, I like it. That's interesting. Okay, so you're the dom when it comes to women. Yes. And then I switch completely with men. It depends on, it depends on the man in the situation, I guess. You know, I can be very, very dominant. and then I can be very, very, very submissive,
24:26 but it takes a very special man to bring that out of me. Like, yeah. You mean something you need to feel very close to him. You need to trust him. He needs to know what he's doing. Trust. Of course. It's down to trust.
24:37 And then it's also down to, I mean, I'm not one of those people to be kind of like attracted to the superficial shit. Yeah. It's more often than not it's how they carry themselves. Like when I see a man who has a honey badger personality, have you seen a honey badger walk? No, is that a good thing or a bad thing? What's a honey badger? Oh, it's so hot.
25:01 It's this amazing little animal, but it is so pissed off and like so cocky. I think they're like they own the earth. Okay. And if I see a man who has that level of dominance and she can walk around with that, I don't know. It's just a little something, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. You'll happily submit to that guy. Like, that's the guy you're looking for.
25:24 100%. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I got it. But I also need to be able to submit to them only when I know I can turn them to putty in my hands. Like, it's so interesting, like the dichotomy of how the sexual mind works because no two
25:39 people are alike. Yeah, no. And it's, so it's always a challenge for you. 100%. And then sometimes you go into something and you're like, oh, I'm going to dominate this guy or this woman or whatever. And then they do one little thing. And that dominance is like, okay, you know what?
25:57 Mic drop. Here you go. There. You have the reins. Do what you want. Respect. I'm yours. I'm putty.
26:03 Respect. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Interesting. Wait. When were your first experiences? Because like you're young.
26:09 You're like 1617, right? You are real, like you see this movie. You realize you're into this thing. Now, did you know at that time? Because you've already said you're like with women. You're with men. Did you know then that you were like? you were like into both men and women and did you have experiences with both early on?
26:25 Yes, I did, but I had, you know, obviously I had my first kind of sexual experience, like full on, full intercourse, like, where, you know, when I was like 17 and, I mean, obviously, you know, petting, whatever, I was like 17. I was living in Ireland and yeah, that was, that was, that was wild. you know most people regret their first time I do not at all ever do most people regret their first time there are so many people who regret it
26:58 or they just had like such an icky first time or whatever from the people that I know they're like oh well that was like kind of mediocre because people big it up you know oh yeah yeah exactly and most women are in their head they don't really enjoy it and most of the time you fuck the first time with anyone it's not like the bad ideal you don't know what I mean you got to do it a couple times feel comfortable, you know, I get it. Yeah, that, you know.
27:21 Or first time was amazing, is what you're saying. It was. It was brilliant. Yeah, we, it was rough. It was great. It was like, wow, I dated the guy and we broke up because I'm a control freak. Yeah. That's when my dominant side comes in.
27:39 I'm a control freak. I'm not afraid to admit that. I'm going to do that sometimes. But I broke up with him and we, I was leaving Ireland. and he So he stole my best friend to this day So he was like Hey cool let's hang
27:54 You know we're gonna hang out So we went out partying and came back And yeah It went from doggy style Straight off a single bed Forehead straight into the floor And I had like carpet burn on my forehead It was
28:07 Did he know that you were like Wanted that or did you just happen to sniff out Like the perfect partner for you Because like or did he know That this is what you were into? No he knew Like, I mean, we dated before. So, I mean, it was heavy petting there.
28:21 And, yeah, there was heavy petting there. I had one of my, probably my most embarrassing sexual experiences with him. So we learned, you know, kind of the first time I ever gave a blowjob. I accidentally vomited on him. So it was a gaggedy face for his intended. Yeah. Yeah. So it was a world of first with him.
28:38 And I don't even know if he still remembers this. I will not be telling him about this, about this show. Oh, yeah. Don't worry about it. Did you ever like fully like because you know that you're into this like you're having that that's this is your first experience but you like do consider yourself in the king community like do you wind up getting into the community and that you go to like munches and you went to clubs and parties and stuff like that did you eventually get into it that in that way or just you have those kinds of intimate experiences with people. I have those intimate experiences with people and because I'm one of those people. I'm on the spectrum obviously I don't know you know I I like. I like. to share my interests and because I refuse to have a strictly, like vanilla is good sometimes. I mean,
29:22 you know, sometimes, sometimes is great, you know, that's what I need. But I cannot live like that perpetually because I would go off the rails. I'd lose my mind. And so I know a lot of people also from the industry and I, because I talk and I communicate and I seek things out and I find people that I connect with, even if I'm not going to go fuck them. I'm not going, you know, it's not an intention to go and fuck them or go and see them. It is purely just, I want to communicate. I want to, I want to understand this. I want to unpick things.
29:57 And that's kind of how I ended up in my career as well, like, you know, with my studies, is I want to understand it because that's how it is. And from there, I have, I mean, I'm also learned to say to people straight up, like, this is what I'm into. Yeah. Because any kind of king, start. with the negotiation and I'm hardcore with my negotiations because I don't want anybody to have an experience with me where that leaves them feeling kind of icky but you know they're like oh I don't
30:24 like that I want to know what you're into now what you're maybe into what you will never do so that I don't cross those boundaries because I know in the king space you can kind of do head a little bit in that subspace where everything is just feeling so great so you end up pushing somebody's boundaries accidentally and they push yours, which is why that negotiation is like extremely important. And that for me has formed so many more meaningful like, you know, experiences with people where I'll, I'll straight up, tell somebody that's vanilla. Look, I don't mind banging you, but this is what I'm into. And if you're not into that, that's fine. We can totally do it, you know, vanilla, you know, nothing interesting. It's up to you. Okay, everyone, listen up. I have a
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34:23 That's loadboost.com. Use my code strictly at checkout or just go to the description, click on the link and use my code strictly. which is why that negotiation is like extremely important and that for me has formed so many more meaningful like you know experiences with people where I'll straight up to tell somebody that's vanilla look I don't mind banging you but this is what I'm into and if you're not into that that's fine we can totally do it you know vanilla you know nothing interesting but where did you learn about all this because I think that either is like like I mean because it can be very intense. And like you said, there's like boundaries,
35:03 there's a lot of people. There's a lot of that goes into it because there has to be total trust depending on how hardcore you're going to be with somebody, you know. So did you like educate yourself on the world? Yes, 100%. But again, the king community is, this is the one thing that I think frustrates me the most about the king's community is things like 50 shades of gray.
35:27 Yeah, oh my God. I hated that. Yeah, because it wasn't true. It wasn't like, it didn't represent what really goes down. It was all about sex. So, I mean, when that came out, I looked at this, I read it. And aside from the grammatical errors and the trash that she wrote, like, it didn't sit well with me. So my brain instantly went, I mean, that was around about the time.
35:51 I'd watch secretary, you know, like, it was in that kind of, you know, ballpark frame, time frame. And I read this and I was like, this doesn't, this is. secretary compared to this, this is worlds apart. Yeah. This doesn't fit well, sit well with me because this, like, some of this shit is not consensual. So for me, it was just researching. I mean, Reddit is such a phenomenal tool for you to research. Reddit is one thing.
36:19 Also, if you sit and actually just speak to people, I mean, there are foreign fed life. Fantastic resource as well. Go and communicate with people. You know, doms are not that scary. People that are openly putting their sex lives, their sexual interests, their kinks and their fetishes, on the internet, you usually do it for a reason because they're nine times out of ten happy to talk about it. So if you go up to somebody say, hey, listen, I really admire your work. Would you mind me asking you some questions? Can I ask you some questions?
36:57 You know, they can either say no. and tell you to fuck off or they can be like, yes, sit down child, sit down on young Padawan, I can school you, you know? Yeah. And that is the basis of anything is
37:11 if you're gonna, if you're interested in something, do it. I mean, that is, you know, go into it, but educate yourself first. Go and Google it. Reddit search. You know, find forums, communities, ask people questions and don't
37:27 stop digging until you find something that sits with you. I often find it really amusing when people tell me they don't have any kinks or they're not kinky and I'm like, yeah, you probably are. If you like having your ass smack, that is technically considered a parapheria. It is beyond the norm. It is a kink. Yeah. You know, yeah. That is, you know, so everybody is in achy kinky in their own way. You just have to kind of, you know, figure out what your yon is. What is your king? Like, what are your kings besides being a switch? I always have to take it back personal. We get people's life stories here, but, you know, I like the bigger picture stuff too because
38:05 you're knowledgeable. But, like, what are your kings? My kings? Oh, they, you know what? It is very, so this is why I'm, like, I don't know if I consider myself a little bit of a strange one, because it is very dependent on who I'm with. Oh, interesting. Some people can choke me out, like 100% and I'm down.
38:25 I'm like, do it again. Do it again. You know, I want to, you know, and it's always blood choking for me. I don't do air choking. So blood chokes all the way. And that kind of thing, I really enjoy really rough. Like, I need to feel.
38:45 And I mean, I said it to the person that I'm seeing currently, I said to him, the day after, I said to him, I've literally memorized and I can feel. Every time I clench, I can feel every single vein. That is for me. a big thing. Like 100% I need to be able to feel
39:03 this person. I'm like literally, you know, so it has to be hard. It has to be intense. I also have a very big thing for, you know, I want somebody to look me in the eyes
39:13 as they're about to come. Like it's one of those things. Some days I can't do without it. And I'm not done until I have literally had deep eye contact. Oh, really? Yeah.
39:25 Is that a part of like a control? Or does that, like, where do you think? that comes from. But you consider that a kick. It's kind of specific. It's interesting. It is very specific. It's borderline fetish because sometimes it is required. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. So, yeah, I don't know. I just really, really like seeing the absolute pleasure in their eyes. Like, there is something about it. It just does it for me. Like, I need to, I need to have,
39:54 I'm not an exhibitionist by any means, okay? So I don't do the public because I'm very present. I don't do the public displays of, you know, like six. I don't do public play. I'll do PDA, no problem. I will drag somebody around the corner. That is another one of mine is like, you know, throughout family event, function, whatever, wedding. I will drag you somewhere, whereas, you know, there's the risk of being caught. That's as far as my exhibitionism goes.
40:20 But there's just something about being able to look somebody dead in the eyes as they are. You are literally making them come. Like that? Mind-blowing. Right. Well, maybe you have compersion. Like, it's called compersion, right? Like, really being pleasureed by seeing someone else being pleasured.
40:39 Yes. 100%. But I, yeah, 100%. When was your first, do you remember your first, like, proper, like, Dom sub experience? And do you, like, which one were you at that time? Like, what did you start out as before you figured you were a switch? Those are two separate questions. So, I'll start with.
40:59 the last question. With regards to figuring that out, I figured out that I liked dominating woman when I was quite young. I was 19. And I was dating, I was dating a gold star lesbian. That means she's never been with a guy, right? Yes, 100%. Never been with a guy. Yeah. So, I mean, and she was 20 years older than me. And that was an amazing experience in terms of where I figured out where I sit in the top of the food chain in that relationship because I figured that's that she never had a woman sit on her face and I sat on her face and I literally could look down because she had her bed at like an angle and I could grab. She had like window bars.
41:46 I grabbed onto the window bars and I sat on her face because she'd never experienced this. I mean, she was 40 years old. That's weird. So I was 19. I mean, yeah, it was wild. I grabbed onto the window bars and I remember looking down into her eyes. And I was like, fuck yes, this is it. And so in that position, you're like doming her.
42:10 Like, you're the dominant for sure. Yeah. Uh-huh. 100%. And from there, I just remember, I talked to her completely. Like, there was just, there was no doubt about it. I was the top. And we didn't use toys back then because I was 19.
42:28 I didn't think I'd ever seen a strap on when I was 19. So I literally, I topped her because it was just this energy exchange. And she just, she wasn't used to it because she was, you know, she was the, you know,
42:43 she was like the stud in the kind of the relationship. She was the more masculine one, if you can call it that. Yeah. But when it came to six, there was no way she was dominance. and it was like a shock for her as well because she kind of sat there after that one session
42:59 and she was like, what the fuck just happened? Especially because you're so much younger than her. Do you know what I mean? You would just expect that that wouldn't be the case. You know, here it is of the, like a 19-year-old sort of changing the game for her. It's kind of really interesting.
43:16 For a gold star as well. And I was like, I don't know, maybe you're just a small town gold star but yeah, I've been places, baby. I've been places and now I've been on your face. So, yeah, this is it. But did you strap it on with her or did you realize you were into that and doming girls that way too? Is that that that's because that's obviously the dominant position, right? It is, but, you know, I mean, in your stereotypical sense, it is.
43:43 But I've never strapped anybody, to be honest with you, because again, and I think it maybe comes back down to that King, because I need to see and feel that pleasure and I'm I'm creating it I need skin on skin I that make sense you know toys are great toys are fun but I would it's not the same for me personally I like skin on skin flesh to flesh yeah it's different entirely if you're doing like a forced orgasm thing and you've got a wand out or the motor bunny or something like that what you do forced orgasms yeah entirely different keel of fish because I mean forced orgasms manually but your hands, good Lord, you'll take forever. And it hurts.
44:24 Your hands get cramps. Your mouth gets cramps. There's always so much you can do. So you need tools for that. But in terms of just pure sex, I prefer not to do straps. It's an energy thing. I mean, you know, you can pin people down. You can restrain them.
44:45 Another one of my favorites is sensory play. You deprive one sense to enhance another. I was there. Yeah. That's what I've heard. You know, and the more you take away, the more intense everything becomes. Yes. One of my favorite tools is a Bortenberg's wheel.
45:00 What's that? So it's a little pinwheel. It's got some of them are quite sharp. Some of them are more blunt. But the doctor, look, it's big of the medical kings. Doctors will use it. They'll, like, run it down your feet to test, like, if you're, you know, your power eyes or something, like the response to your nerves.
45:17 Some of the way they hit your knee to test if you're, like, vague. kicks up and if it has responses. Yeah, of course. So on Mortenberg's wheel, it is very, because it triggers those nerves. So if you blindfold somebody and restrain them, they can't move, they can't see. And you run that underneath their foot or their inner thigh. And, you know, you get a block of ice in your mouth and you run it down their body
45:43 across erogenous zones. You, you know, you do all of these very sensual things. men get bricked up. I'm not going to like to you. They get bricked up hard as fuck. You are, and in the end, when you're doming a man in that sense, this is where my switch comes in, like, where I, like, I live for this kind of thing is you bring all those senses together with, you know, cold. The Whartonbrook rails with a sharp sensations, you know, your nails literally just grazing their inner thighs, you know, gently, like massaging their balls, whatever it is. And they get bricked up and nine times out of ten they beg you for begging.
46:24 For more. They're begging for you to just fucking get on top and go to town or to let, you know, to untie them. And that is, that is where I love the switch because you can untie them and whisper in their ear and you're like, yeah, do what you want. Oh, and then that's the switch right there. Yes. That is the switch for me where I can switch it off entirely because now I've done my thing.
46:53 I have tormented this poor man. And now they can do whatever they want. And nine times out of ten, you get railed so hard, you will sit funny for a few days. Oh my God. Do you remember your first experience of meeting like the perfect, the best Dom ever? No, not really. To be honest with you. You haven't met him yet.
47:18 No, I haven't. I mean, I've had very, very, very intense dom experiences, but my best ones, like the perfect ones have been with switches. Okay. Or with people who were not, you know, who were quite vanilla until they discovered a king, you know. Introduced somebody to Shabari. Just explain what that is. That's like that beautiful tying people up. Yeah.
47:43 Japanese rope bondage. It started out as like a way to kind of contain prisoners. literally. Yeah. And it's evolved into an art form. It can be quite thrilling and dangerous at the same time. So, you know, it's something you need to look into properly. And because I'm a rope bunny.
48:02 I'm not really a rigor. I'm a rope bunny, which means I like being tied up. I don't really always like doing the tying up with, you know, fancy arts and stuff. I get bored and I just want to get laid. Yeah. But I can sit there and get tied up for hours, like hours. I slip into like those. dumb subspace where, you know, like, huh?
48:23 Like, Katie from Horton, Here's a Who, the little fluffy thing. Yeah. So, and that, that, that has been an interesting experience, teaching somebody about that and they've turned around and become like a full on rigor where they're like, holy shit, this is like the best thing ever. And seeing that enthusiasm that I've sparked on this person. Yeah. And seeing them like literally brain turns to marshmallow as they're tying me up and
48:48 they're asking me, is this good? Yeah. You know, is this right? And I'm like, yes, it's right. So in the sense, I'm still the dominant one because I'm still control of the situation. Totally. I'm instructing. And, you know, and for them to turn to absolute putty at the side of me tied up.
49:05 Oh, chef's kiss, perfect, perfect, like absolutely perfection. And then the best is, obviously, when you're still tied up, like a mermaid tie where you, you know, it looks like a little mermaid kind of figuration on your legs or a futa mummo, which your, you know, shin, your leg basically tied to your thigh. That and you get laid while you're still tied up. And then the whole process of getting untied afterwards where you're still like writhing around. Yeah.
49:33 Oh, perfection. You know, so that kind of thing does it for me. So I haven't found my perfect dom because I don't know if I can be submissive full time. Yeah, no, you're a very switch. And you're very dom in your regular life. Is it a part of you that like likes to teach people and gets off on the? that, like, is all of that connected with your desire to now become a sex therapist and help people?
49:57 100%. I also fully from being, you know, involved with vanilla people and very unsatisfactory sex lives. Yeah. I just reached a point in my life where I was like, you know what, this affects me. This really affects me. And not only, like, my personal experience of being affected by a shitty. sex life, but also, you know, having had kids, like your libido disappears and, you know,
50:26 you go through transitions in life where you yourself are not happy and you can see your partner is suffering because they kind of, you know, they want to fuck you, but you are not interested because, you know, there's so much stuff going on or you're experiencing something, you know, some sort of sexual dysfunction where you're just not, your libido is just gone. Yeah. For whatever reason. And it's a big struggle. So for me, I realized like the effect that it has.
50:52 I mean, I've witnessed a partner kind of lose like a little sparkle in his eyes when I didn't want to fuck him. Yeah. Because is this when you had kids. Yeah. It was after I had kids and I was depressed. And, you know, we were just not in a good space. Yeah. And that for me, like to see that sparkle and I'm like, dude, I would love to.
51:15 but me shagging you right now would not benefit anybody. Yeah, yeah. You couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. It's like a fucking bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah.
51:28 I mean, you know, like go watch Pornhub and help yourself. I'm not going to feel offended. And I really wish I could change that. I really wish I could shag you that I'm not going to lie to you about it. And that was the changing point for me. I was like, I can't do this. I cannot do that. But the whole point of that story is that you want to help people when they are going through that themselves, because that's a very common thing that happens.
51:52 It is. I mean, I was a single mom. I had a kid by myself. And I can't tell you how many times in those first two years I went to bed. And I was like, thank God I don't have to blow some fucking guy right now. You know what I'm saying? Like all my girlfriends would be like, oh, it's so amazing that you're a single mom. It's so much harder.
52:06 I'd be like, no, I think you have it harder. Okay. I only have one baby to take care of. You've got to. It's way more difficult because, and I remember, I'm still doing my show at that. time like talking to women that had kids and been there done that. I'm like, I feel the most unhorny that I've ever felt my whole life. You know what I mean? All I was around was estrogen. Nannies, babies, you know, it was all like little kid music. I was like the least
52:28 I'd ever been. And I'm like, what's fucking wrong with me? We'll ever come back. And be like, no, no. This is very normal. It's like the nesting phase. It's like a normal thing that happens. Like it will come back. And it did for sure. But, you know, I think it's very hard for women when they get into that phase of your just like blinders on taking care of this like human being that is yours now, you know, that you're just like lose your libido and like, what do you do when you have that guy? It's a tough thing and I think it happens a lot. So it's, and people can use help during those times, right? Because a lot of times it breaks up relationships. It does. And, you know, the biggest thing as well is it's not just like an emotional thing or, you know, your life is so
53:06 complicated is also like a physiological thing. I mean, you're drier if you are restfeeding. You, you know, I mean, you're tired. You're going to be drier. Your libido is going to be tanked. It takes up to a year for your body to actually physically kind of recover and, you know, a year onwards. And your hormones, if you're breastfeeding, they're fucked for like at least a year afterwards. Yeah, but don't you think that's nature to also just saying like, listen, you need to take care of your baby. You not go out and fuck other animals. You know what I mean? It's like a nature thing. I think it makes sense. It's why they, you know, in nature, they also make babies really cute so you don't throw them out the fucking window because they could be really annoying.
53:44 Do you know what I mean? Like, all this is nature. It's like to, you know, so you, the mommy bear takes care of the baby bear. She's not thinking about sex, you know. I think it makes sense. I mean, that's why, you know, babies are technically the biggest cock blocks ever because I don't know if you've noticed if you have a kid, like especially a younger kid and you're with somebody. like a baby, they can pick up those pheromones and they'll start crying the minute the fucking tip goes in.
54:14 Just the tip. Oh my God. That's so funny. Kids will sense it. I mean, clock blocks 5,000. It is awful. And you're like, just go. Get away from my mom.
54:25 That's my mother. And it's also, you know, it's preventive things so that you don't reproduce and, you know, neglect their needs. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's nature. So it's going to happen and it does happen. And that's why. And that's when like couples can use the help.
54:39 Like you didn't have the help. And that's what makes you feel like you want to go and now help people. And also I'm really passionate. I mean, if people just got laid more, but got laid in a more satisfactory way, we're seen, felt, validated. Do you know how many men, like the male aspect of it really tickles me as well? Because men don't talk. They don't open their damn mouths and say to their wives of 10.
55:06 years, listen, babe, I want you to fucking peg me. I need that. Or, hey, don't you want to play with my ass a little? Yeah. Because they think, oh, that's gay or... Totally, please, I have all those people on my show. Yeah, I have all those people on my show, living
55:22 like secret lives. It's terrible. 100%. It's terrible. And it comes from fear. And I mean, if you truly love somebody, you should be able to tell them, babe, I want you to stick like, you know, the nicest purple spink. Sparkly dildo up my ass.
55:38 As a man, I'm a hardcore man. I'm the provider, whatever. I don't know. I don't care what your dynamic is. You should be able to say that and your wife will go, honey, that sounds like Saturday night. The kids will have a babysitter. I will have wine.
55:52 Or she's going to turn around to you and say, babe, I appreciate it. Can we maybe not do the full monte? Like maybe I'll explore it or, hey, that's not for me. You have to understand that. But people don't communicate. They don't talk. Because you know why?
56:05 The biggest fear is that you bring that up and she doesn't say any of those things and she just looks at you like you're fucking weird or she says, ew, what's fucking wrong with you? That's the biggest fear because you're really showing a side of yourself that I think people are very vulnerable with their fantasies, but that's really what it's all about. You know, it really changes the game. Yeah, it changes the game. And I've talked to so many different couples and couples that were in vanilla relationships or sexless relationships and just starting to communicate and do exactly what you said and what you're going to help people and what sex therapists help people to just like. like be more honest and open about what they're into that it literally changes their life. Some of them are hot wiping, Swimming. Some of them are still vanilla, but they're fucking like crazy and they have toys and they're, you know, it's like it's really, it's all about being honest and so, and it's so many people aren't. And it's weird because, because I have a lot of cheating stories on my show. And it's always like, it seems like very backwards, but it's sort of human nature in that like,
56:58 you know, a guy who's or a woman who's been with their partner for 30 years feels more comfortable sort of letting their freak flag fly with a stranger that they're cheating with, right, than telling that person that they are sharing their whole life with for so long this really private part of themselves. But I think it's more scary. There's more to lose if you tell your real partner what you're into and they give you like, you know, they give you a bad response. So I think it, you know, people on both sides need to know that A, you need to be open about it and be, you know, if you're on the receiving end of hearing it, you need to know how to respond properly. see that's the thing and there's also the other side of it I mean for a woman it is the
57:36 the ultimate dichotomy of either the Madonna or the whore I mean you're either pure or you're a fucking ho and I'm like you know what fuck it I'm a ho fucking slap my ass and call me a ho I don't give a fuck yeah I and I understand it I mean I am very clear about it and everything but obviously because I know my free flags were flying for a long time so I understand it and I it's difficult I mean some sometimes it is hard to tell somebody like listen I need you to spank me but I like I need a handprint
58:11 like I don't need a love tap but and they don't understand they look at you like I'm going to hurt you and I'm like yeah that's the point yeah yeah totally and you like it yeah and for yeah 100% and then through that as well another part of the you know the sex therapy is so many people don't know what they're into you know yes you're right They don't know how to discover that. They don't know how to figure that out. And then that also creates performance anxiety because they're like, I don't know what to do, you know?
58:42 Yeah. And I don't know, you know, maybe I like this. But I mean, everybody likes something. I mean, you know, somebody who's never eaten hot Cheetos, my look at it and go, I don't do spicy. But they tuck into it and they're like, holy shit, this is good. Yeah, you don't know unless you try it. And so many people evolve and change. I don't think it's like what you're into early on is what sticks. You could wind up realizing you're into something totally different. But it's a matter of like sort of going there and exploring it. 100%. And so with, because I, I want to focus and I do focus a lot of my work on, you know, the kink side of it. You can go to any therapist and they can help you with your sex life. They can help you with a number of things.
59:27 But, you know, sex therapists have a special place in the world. And sex therapy practitioners. It's a very special place in the world because we're open to talk about a lot of things. And especially if you dive into the hardcore kink scene and things like that where you can help people and, you know, facilitate that. learning curve like here, there's resources, you know, have a look at this, take a look at this section, you know, look into these things, try these things out. And if it gets you hard, it gets you hard. Who's, you're supposed to yuck your yum, you know, as long as you're not doing anything completely illegal or, you know, non-consensual, it's all good. I mean, and even in that, you've got your, you know, your ethical non-monogamy and your CNC, which is another thing that is very interesting for me. C&C is very fascinating, you know.
01:00:17 And people also don't understand it. It's just that taboo. And once people understand the taboo, I honestly feel that people just be happier and there'll be less assholes in the world. Because, I mean, if you're getting cracked before work, because that's what you're into, and you know,
01:00:33 you're doing your thing with your partner before work and you're walking into work with a better mood, I think you'd be less like less of an asshole in the corporate world. Oh, yeah, for sure. be good at first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. You know when you're working for someone that hasn't got fucked in a long time. It's just so crappy. You know what I'm saying? I had a boss like that. And I was close with her. I'd be like, do you not get fucked? Like, just go get late or something because you're just like such a bitch. Can I pay for a hooker for you? I will do it.
01:01:00 I'll take your pick. Send me the bill. Invoiced me. Oh, my God. Well, when you become a sex there, but you have to come back on, I'm glad that I like picked your brain when we were talking about sex toys initially because I'm, you know, I really, you know, I really, love your whole, like all of this stuff that we've talked about. You're super interesting. I could probably talk to you for another hour. You can maybe come back on to talk about kinks some more. I will put the links because we gave some really good ideas for sex toys. The pika, the pika with the attachment. What's that one called again? The what we love with the flora, the flora pro. The flora pro. Oh my God. And you. Floor pro. Yeah. Flora pro. I'll stutter. I get like a
01:01:39 speech impediment thinking of that thing. It's good. I know what I'm doing later. Yeah, I highly recommend anyone that gets it. Trust me, you're going to email me like, thank you so much, Kathy. It's like fucking amazing. And the, but, and there is a $15 off. So you just use the link in my description as well as motor bunny. I'm telling you the sex machine. Like one's a sex toy, one's a sex machine. I can't live with either. They're both my favorites. So, and you get $50 off your butter bunny. That stuff will be in the description. But thanks so much for being so open about your life and telling me your whole story. It's, it's interesting. It'll be interesting where you wind up.
01:02:12 the future. Anytime. I'm motor mouse. So, all good. Motor Bunny with a motor mouth, 100%. I'm good to talk about anything. So whenever, we'll catch up again. And it's great talking to you.
01:02:27 Yeah, this was fun. Thanks for sending me all my free products. And I'll put the links in the description. But thanks so much, Fern, thanks for calling in. This was super fun. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Okay, bye, By, Fern.
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