Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1379 - Bisexual & Bi-Curious Females Only Play Parties w/Skirt Club Founder Genevieve

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Starting point is 00:02:54 by using my code 37712 or just go to the description and click on the link. Okay, today I have on Genevieve Lejeune. Genevieve Lejeune is super interesting. She founded a place called Skirt Club, which is super interesting. It's a women-only community created for bisexual and by curious women. Now, it's her whole story of how it started is super interesting because she was by, she realized she was by and she was looking for a way to connect with other women like her. And I think it started out with like two friends and her getting together one night. And literally it went from three by girls having a get together to a club that now involves 27,000 women. And her club is amazing. It's not just like a sex party. They do have sex parties, but it's so much more. It really became a place

Starting point is 00:03:48 where women feel comfortable to go and be empowered and be themselves. and get in touch with parts of themselves that maybe they never got in touch with with no men around. This is a woman's only club. Married women go, single women go. Everyone's invited. They vet in a very good way

Starting point is 00:04:05 so that, you know, everyone can feel safe once inside the community. They have a website, skirt club.com. I'll put the description in there and they're all over the world. They host parties and retreats all over the world. In many, many different scenes.

Starting point is 00:04:22 cities. There's also a big online component. You could join Skirt Club by going to SkirtClub.com. I'm going to put in the link in the description, but you're going to get the whole backstory and so much more information on it from Genevieve herself. So I'm going to be right back on with Genevieve. Hi, Genevieve Lijune. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today? I'm doing so well. Thank you. I'm in sunny California. I'm in like below zero degrees New York City as we speak. So. We're living on opposite ends of the spectrum. But, you know, you did start a place called, you did start something called Skirt Club. And it does like, it is located in all the top cities.

Starting point is 00:05:01 So you're around here in New York City too, right? Frequently, yes. Yeah, Skirt Club is a private, like women's only community, right, for bisexual and vicarious women. Is that the way you, Liz, is that like the way you describe it? That's exactly how we describe it. All women are seeking potentially an experience with another woman sexually. Also, as friends, open-minded friends.

Starting point is 00:05:22 or great friends to have. I was kind of like when I saw what you did, I was like, I need to do this for guys. Because on my show, because I have a lot of guy listeners, but I also have a lot of couples listeners. I mean, you know, I mean, I lived during the times where it wasn't even okay for women to be bi. But we all know that time came and it changed

Starting point is 00:05:40 and it's a little bit more accepted. But like for men, there's still such a stigma. I was like, imagine I created like a club like she created for women, but for men because there's still such a stigma for by guys. But we're talking to the by women. today, which I think is super fun, you know, and that's something. And, you know, I'm wondering, can I get a little backstory on you of like why you, should I assume that you're by yourself and that's why you started this club? 100%. Yes. Yeah. And did you live? 15 years ago. Yeah, but wait,

Starting point is 00:06:08 let me ask you this. Did you grow up in the time where even like women being by, there was a stigma for it and women couldn't come out and say it and it was like a, you know, a secret thing. Because in my lifetime, it changed, right? But there was that time where it would, there was still a big. stigma for women as well. 100% also and the reason why I started this club because I couldn't meet anybody like me 15 years ago in London where I was living at the time. Calling myself bisexual seemed to have an adverse effect of women either thought I was hitting on them and men thought I was up for a threesome and I didn't want either of those two things.

Starting point is 00:06:42 I just wanted to be myself and be accepted for who I was. So sure, yeah, tons of stigma and I'm pleased to say things are quite different these days. Yeah, let me ask you what, let me ask you this, because this is always a big topic of conversation, because everybody has a little bit different definition of what bisexual even means. What does it mean for you? Right? Some people will be like, oh, bi means you just want to have sex with somebody else. Or some people think, by means, no, you could fall in love with either, you know, both sexes as well as, you know, hook up.

Starting point is 00:07:09 Like, what does bisexual mean to you? Okay. Well, to be personally, it means that you're interested sexually and romantically in both men and women. And if you want to use a scientific method, we use the Kinsey scale on our application form for Skirt Club because it helps you identify where you sit on that scale of bisexuality. You know, it's not 50-50. It could be 80-20 in either direction. Totally. So you can be and have a preference for a romantic partnership with a male, for example, in my case, and a sexual experience with a female or both or either.

Starting point is 00:07:43 Exactly. So it's all of the above. So it's all at the above for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. But how for you? Like, I mean, when did you realize that you were even by yourself? Oh, probably in my early 20s, you know, and these were the days when we didn't have phones. Yeah, I got it. There's no evidence of that. But yeah, early 20s, but not really acted upon it until my early 30s. There was just too much criticism, I think, from my friendship groups and boyfriends at the time who didn't accept me for who I was.

Starting point is 00:08:14 And so I hid it. That's interesting. So there was a time, though, that you had, like, you were sort of telling people about it and you just got such bad sort of response that you decided to like put it, you know, sweep it under the rug? Well, I knew it wasn't, you know, it wasn't accepted. So, and I wanted to be accepted in society. Like I think all people want to. Of course. So I just omitted the details that weren't so acceptable. And lo behold, I suppressed something very important about myself. And yeah, I felt ashamed, which ultimately led me to break through and find myself. and this is what I want for all women now. Yeah, no, I love that.

Starting point is 00:08:52 And I think that there is a big shift and I have a million questions for you. I like data and statistics. And I'm sure you've seen things change over time because you've started this club in 2014. And things have changed so much, right, from then until now. Now, are you partnered up now? Currently, no. Okay. But have you ever been married or in a long-term relationship?

Starting point is 00:09:12 Because I was just wondering how your partner felt about you being bisexual by the time you were able to accept it and put it out there and was honest about it with people. Well, yes, I was married for nine years. And he knew before. And he knew that part about me. And possibly that was a reason I did marry him because he accepted me. There was no judgment there. But the previous relationships, there was no acceptance.

Starting point is 00:09:35 So it didn't last. So there was a time where you were out about it and then you just got bad feedback. I mean, I was just wondering a little bit of your backstory. Because I would assume that there's a reason why you eventually start this club. Oh, yes, because me and myself wanted to meet other by women, and it was very hard to do. There was no club for it. I could go find lesbian clubs, no problem. I could find male gay clubs and straight clubs and they were all great.

Starting point is 00:09:59 But there's nothing about a woman that says I'm by. You know, she hasn't got a specific hairstyle or outfit, and I can't identify her from the crowd. So I felt by having this more exclusive club for us, we'd be more secure about making a move on another woman. and let me tell you that's already scary enough. So we'd like to know that we've got some chance of success here. Yeah, for sure. And I do believe, and tell me if I'm wrong, that, like, you know, if you do go into a gay club with women, like, a lot of times, like, whether it's gay men or game women, they sometimes are, like, not look down on, but they don't really like someone who's bisexual. Like, bisexual is like a weird place to be sometimes, even in the LGBTQ range of things because you're kind of all things.

Starting point is 00:10:44 and some people are even judgmental within that place, correct? I have experienced that, yes. And that was also one of the reasons why I felt a need to start something specifically for biwomen. Yeah, that's what I would think. I think that was like great. So how did it start? Like where do you like when you decide, oh, I want to set up this place where I can meet like women just like me? Like, and where does that take you?

Starting point is 00:11:07 Like, what's the first step? Well, really simple, grassroots stuff. you know, there was no business plan or, you know, capital raise like most businesses start off with. You don't need that. No, not when you, I don't know what, not when your heart's in it, honestly. I mean, I've been purely motivated by my genuine desire just to find really good friends. Yeah. And so I just started hosting parties in my own flat in London.

Starting point is 00:11:31 Oh, interesting. Yeah, 15 people soon grew to 150 in a year's time. It just became so popular. And it was all word of mouth, you know. I never intended to run a business this way. I was already working in corporate world in finance, to be precise. And let me tell you, that's pretty male dominated. So this was my little outlet for the weekend. I was so happy to get some feminine energy. Oh my God, you go to all testosterone during the week and then all estrogen on the weekend, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Got to get the balance.

Starting point is 00:12:01 Yeah, yeah. I love that. So wait, and where were you advertising? Did you have like Craigslist back in those days in the UK or like where were you putting your ads up to find these by women? Well, I wasn't. I didn't advertise and quite honestly, I still can't. Oh, you didn't even put up ads to get these. It was like your friend. I mean, where do you meet the women if you didn't know any women and that's why you started it? Was it like one by friend and she told her another by friend and that's how it went, word or mouth? Yeah, pretty much. It was three by friends and I met them at a play party. I went to a co-ed sex party with my boyfriend at the time and went there and didn't really enjoy myself. I felt it was too male dominated and I found the women

Starting point is 00:12:42 performing for him and not really actually checking in with what they desired. And so I was having this conversation with three girls in the bedroom whilst, you know, watching, yeah, all the couples having sex around me. And we were like, you know, wouldn't be nice if it's just women. And I'm like, well, I'll host it, sure. And that's how it all began. And yeah, word of math was how it reached the masses and today we have 27,000 members. Hey guys, have you ever had a night where you just couldn't get it up? Well, now there's really no reason to ever worry about that happening again because there's blue chew and now there is blue chew gold, which is going to take things up a notch, okay? Because blue chew gold targets both your brain and your body. Okay, here's the deal. Most blue pills only

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Starting point is 00:15:01 27,000 people are there. You know, it's kind of crazy. It's kind of crazy to think about that you didn't, it was that organic. Yeah, that can happen still. You know, we don't, I don't know why businesses feel like they need to like cash up and explode onto the screen. You know, the reason my community has been so long living is because it's genuine. Yes. You know, women recommend something they trust. And, you know, this, this community was built slowly and surely and with heart, pure heart. And the women who run it, myself and my team, We are now 200 ambassadors. They all volunteer because they just want that safe first experience for her like they had for themselves.

Starting point is 00:15:42 And, you know, we have a mission here. And so, you know, we build on that basis only. Yeah, no, I love that. And I also think just in business alone, like or doing, setting out to do anything new, I think sometimes what people get wrong is they think that they need to know everything ahead of time. You know what I mean? Half the things, I have a discord with 6,000 people. And I'm just figuring things out like, you know, three years into it that I didn't even know.

Starting point is 00:16:06 I didn't even know anything about Discord, but I just started one. Do you know what I mean? And it just sort of evolved and grew. And you learn as you can learn as you go. Because no matter how much you think you're going to know about anything you start, you're never going to know at all. You can't. You have to actually just start it and do it and learn as you go.

Starting point is 00:16:23 I think that's always the best thing. So it started with three women. Now, were they like sex parties or were they meetups or were they both? Like what was like? What kind of parties were you having? Well, that first party was in my flat, right? And it wasn't intended to be a sex party and there was no sex. There was spin the bottle and there was great champagne and the less performance.

Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah, it was sexy, but it wasn't sex. The next party got more into that. And then I realized that women love dancing around in their lingerie and that they love dressing for each other. So we definitely had dress codes and then we had themes and then we played more games like spin the bottle and ice breakers. like a body tequila. And so the games were just getting sexier and sexier. And then the making out was getting heavy. And then that led to the bedroom. And I don't think any of the women involved had any experience prior. So I think they felt safe in sort of the spumble in the dark where nobody knew really anything. And they were just trying it out for the first time

Starting point is 00:17:21 with each other. So, you know, it's quite innocent really. That's probably what made them feel the most comfortable. A lot of times when I have women on my show who are looking to play. A lot of times are women who are into both men and women, for some reason they'll say like they feel more like nervous when hooking up with a woman they don't know than with a man for some reason. And I don't know why that is. Maybe you do. Yeah, it's down to power dynamics. You know, women feel safe. Or at least there's less for them expected for them to do when a man's in the picture because he's this going to lead. Oh, that makes sense. But with a woman who's leading, we don't know. Could be you, could be her.

Starting point is 00:17:59 And, you know, there's an energy where, you know, one's more masculine than the other, that it becomes more clear. But in my club, I mean, we're very much of the feminine energy. And so there's no natural leader in any scenario. And, you know, what that does is it puts emphasis on you to be a leader. And this is very confident building. And I actually enjoy women having this experience because it teaches them to put their foot forward. And a lot of us don't, you know, naturally don't do that. In every area of their life is what you're saying, correct?

Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah, I have a tagline for it. I say confidence in the bedroom gives you confidence in the boardroom. Yeah, I love that. I see women Monday morning after a skirt club sex party, feeling particularly confident about themselves. Yeah. And they'll go about their life in a different way with that attitude. And so how did it grow? You're like in, you're having house parties and everything. How does it grow and evolve and become what it was? Like what were those steps that happened or those big moments and that had changed into you going, you know, worldwide. Yeah, I think the biggest step change that I didn't see coming was the press. Oh, interesting. There was a five-year period where once a, I mean, there was once a week, it felt like

Starting point is 00:19:12 there was a major newspaper or magazine that covered us. There isn't, I mean, I think about it now, it's 400 publications. There aren't many mainstream newspapers or magazines that didn't mention Scott Club at least once. Yeah. You know, it was the last one we feet, I think, I was in vogue to, you know, years ago and Vanity Fair three years ago, you know, and so prior to that, it was Cosmo three or four times, all the girly stuff, Mary Claire, L Magazine, Cosmo Italia, we've been a couple of French

Starting point is 00:19:42 magazines, you know, it's, I think the idea was just so novel that it took the world by surprise. And I don't think men particularly welcomed the idea of women having sex without them initially. Really? Did you get like a lot of weird backlash or comments from like trolls, online men trolls? Yeah, yeah, I did. And from every religious sect as well. I mean, like, you know what I've seen it all. But I think what I've seen the most change in is that men have come around to realizing that, you know, a happy wife is a happy life.

Starting point is 00:20:18 And they've noticed that women become becoming more confident sexually is only a benefit to them. Of course. So what was initially a fear of losing her is now because, coming and understanding that she's about to help them explore more confidently into their own sex lives. And I think that's just a positive for everybody involved. I've noticed recently, actually, a lot of our members are, more, our new members are coming in around over 50 years old, and they are women who have raised their children and married young. And they're really now, for the first time, exploring their bodies and their sexual desires in a way that's for them only.

Starting point is 00:20:58 And so it's very novel to them and very, you know, strange to be with somebody who's not their husband. But overall, the couple is enjoying the experience, both of them, because this is the safest way she can go about it. You know, he's not threatened because there's no men there, strictly no men there. And she feels safe being held in a space by women only. And it's really important that she feels safe. Yeah, that makes sense as well as the guy too. You know, I mean, everyone thinks that, oh, every guy would be so into seeing his girl with someone. Now, some guys are just don't want to see their partner with anybody else.

Starting point is 00:21:31 Their insecurity comes up, whether it's a woman or a man. It's not like just because every guy, like, thinks they love that, that they want that, you know. It's like it's just so I think that that does that, knowing that they're going to that party and allowing it, knowing that there's no other men there does make it safe. I mean, do you have, I'm assuming that like it's married women, it's single women, it's women of all ages. I mean, what are the demographics of the women that are in your club? I would assume it just across the board. Well, it's every age. I mean, obviously the youngest age has to be 18 because that's the law. And the oldest is 81. So it really is across the board. What's interesting is that when we started out, everybody was sort of like late 20s, early 30s, you know, professionally in a career, financially independent. And now that's changed. It's become older. And now it's more, I really want to try my first time with a woman. And she's more like over 45. I've usually very inexperienced sexually, but, you know, great career.

Starting point is 00:22:33 So I think all the energy went into that instead. Yeah, but it's, yeah, in New York, for example, where you are, it's definitely a mid-30 to 50 years old crowd. Yeah, London's probably a little younger, maybe here in L.A., probably more like in the early 30s. So it just depends where you are, but, I mean, really it's, and we do different kinds of events. events too and they attract a footage groups. Yeah, I was wondering once it got so big that you couldn't,

Starting point is 00:23:03 you know, host them in your flat. Like, where did you start hosting that? Yeah, somebody else's flat. Not my little one bed. No, I had a friend with a, you know, a five-story townhouse and notting Hill and, you know, and we could, we could get 100 in there. And it was great. It was, it was, yeah, it was heaving. So you're always next to somebody close up. That's for sure. Oh my God. Now, let me ask you this because, you know, there's like a, is there like an online community as well part of it? Because, you know, you can do that nowadays, right? You have these in-person events. Is there also like an online aspect to the skirt club as well that women could join and be a part of? Absolutely. And in fact, that is the most popular aspect of our skirt club community that you can come online and meet 27,000 women around the world, talk to them privately on chat or just in the, big city groups that we have, see who's around tonight. And often someone is, you know,

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Starting point is 00:28:01 See who's around tonight. And often someone is, you know, if you're traveling for work, you know, who's in London tonight. And yeah, you might make a few new friends quickly. And I love that aspect of it. It gives women a chance to, I don't know, explore more in a safe way. Yeah, I get it. And is it like most adult websites in that, like, it's a place where you could meet people to hook up. It's also a place where you could just like talk to people. Is a place where you could

Starting point is 00:28:28 get education and articles and stuff? Like is all of that included? Yeah, all of that. And keep in mind, women are not necessarily like seeking a hookup. They're seeking a connection first. Yeah. So they want to be friends first and, you know, what comes from that, it just feels more authentic. Yeah, totally. So that you see, that's how it's all set up. I would assume, like, listen to my discord is the 6,000 people. It's like, it's mostly got, it's a lot of guys, you know, so it's, it comes across in a different way. And I would assume if you started this club for guys, it would have to be run very differently than women

Starting point is 00:29:00 because women are, right? They hook up, they get attracted, they're interested in a different way than guys are. Yeah, that's why we have Grindr. Yeah. I joked once that I was going to start grind her. And I like that. Every man wanted to invest.

Starting point is 00:29:14 And I'm like, I'm not actually going to do that. No one would be grinding right away. You'd have to wait. It is a different seat. Well, someone complained once on my Discord, like, oh, there's not enough women. I'm like, that's because it's not going to, this isn't a place like the way that people are presenting and what's going on here and the way guys are posting stuff. It's not interesting to women. You know what I mean? It's more a guy place and because women and men get turned on in different ways and they want to connect in different ways. Like you, you obviously know how women want to connect, especially bisexual women and that's why you started it. Now, how do you vet and like what's the consent like and, you know, how to do people remain anonymous on there? Like, what's the whole? process. So how do we vet? I mean, it's a simple application for one with two photos and

Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, but you have to do photos. Yes. Yes. We need to feel safe about you joining and you need to feel safe about us hosting you and, you know, we're bringing you into very private spaces and where there's vulnerable women who are maybe naked and trying something out for the first time. You know, that's a very, we're in a very responsible position to ensure that that place is safe. So yeah, we need to see two photos. And then we'll approve you or not. And then you're into the community and we'll be meeting you very soon. And so once you become a part of the community, can you go to any of the events and where are the events held?

Starting point is 00:30:37 And how big are they and how many people like show up to any of the events? Just explain, if you could explain it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I'll give you the sexiest events first, of course. So I'd say, look, our New York event is by, you know, the sexiest one we have on the calendar. it's the play party is called our signature party and it's about we'll do one every two months typically in a penthouse at a hotel or maybe a private home always luxurious and typically

Starting point is 00:31:04 around 80 to 100 of our members will show up there'll be a theme always you know rodeo or like disco calgirls one we had last year but then we also do like more sort of we might do like a leather and lace theme so or glorious and pink or you know the the by pride flag color. purple and pink. So, you know, it depends. Valentine's coming up. So we're doing a Galentine's party on the 13th of February, all around the world, actually, just to celebrate that special day. So there's always a theme and it's always fun to dress up and maybe play out your alter ego, which is another great way to have a good time. Yeah. Do you have them like monthly or is it a weekly thing, the actual in, you know, live events? Well, we have at least

Starting point is 00:31:47 400 events a year around the world. They're all live. So in New York, For example, we'll do the play party every two months, but in between, we'll do a social, we'll do a mini skirt. Mini skirts are hosted in a bar with a sexy performance and a chance for Icebreaker games, like Spin the Bottle. And so it's still a sexy time. Yeah, so there's plenty in between as well. And options to do something that's not so full on. There's plenty of breaches and stuff, yeah. Sip and paint class, you know, LipLab we did recently.

Starting point is 00:32:20 build your own lipstick. Oh, that's fun. It's just fun girly stuff, you know? Like, it's just nice. Yeah, for women to meet up with like-minded other women. I mean, I think that that's super important, doing things that women like to do with each other. So it's not just always hookup events.

Starting point is 00:32:36 No, that's room for that, but it's on everything. Of course. You know, I like the expression, you know, BBM, make a buy bestie and have some fun together. Like, just to explore life together because they get you. You don't have to explain yourself. Have you had a lot of success stories where people have met and, you know, dated or been together forever after meeting in your club? I would assume.

Starting point is 00:33:00 Yeah, we've actually had four weddings now. Wow. Yeah, and I often get questions from guys. She will come home. 99.9% yes. Yeah. Do you feel like a lot of women that were going there without their husbands knowing or do you think most of them have a, approval. I think these days, yes, and it's safer to be honest these days, but 10 years ago, no. A lot of them were there without him knowing because they felt they didn't have a choice. They felt the marriage would be over if they told him or he wouldn't understand. Now it's very different. Thank God. Yeah. What are the other shifts that you have seen? Because I know that like sort of like, oh, they call it late in life lesbians, but it's not necessarily lesbians. Like late in life, a lot of women hooking up with women now. You hear that it's very mainstream.

Starting point is 00:33:50 and everything. Is that something that you're seeing a lot more of like, like you said, the older women that are coming to have their first experience after they've been married and never sort of even realize they had these urges? Or has it always been that way? And what are other shifts or changes that you've seen since 2014? I think the desire has always been there. I think society has just not been accepting of it. And now you've got like every pop star is by now. I know. I mean, I have a 10 year old. I have a 10 year old. I have a 10 year old son, we don't watch one show that isn't full of, there's more by characters than there are straight. You know what I mean? Like, that's just the way that it is. They're all by,

Starting point is 00:34:29 you know, and all the younger generation are. I mean, I think, you know, it's amazing that, you know, people, I just think the younger generation is a lot more open-minded than the way I grew up, which I think is like, it's about fucking time. Yeah. It's time it got to be ourselves. Yeah, of course. Because I don't, I don't understand why we're pretending. I just don't get why we would choose a life where we live a lie. No, and the saddest thing is that the, the, the, the bi guy is like the last one left, and he's, and I make a mission on my show to talk about it a lot because a lot of people think that there's more by women out there. And like, I hear the dumbest comments from my guy friends, well, it's more natural for a woman to be by because women are more beautiful and it's not

Starting point is 00:35:10 natural for a man because a man, you know, just looks, you know, he's just like this hairy beast, you know, it's like, it's so dumb. It's like, I just think, you know, like with that Kinsey scale, I think you probably find more people in the, you know, the middle than you do on either end. You know, totally homo, totally had a row. And the middle is full of both men and women. There's just as many men that are into sucking a dick every now and then, then there are women. It's just still so suppressed and it's so sad that there's all these guys hooking up behind their wives' backs or in parking lots and doing all these things and they can't say it because it makes them less than, you know? It's still a big stigma that exists, you know? But like I said, that existed for women

Starting point is 00:35:47 in my age, I remember when it became like a thing and every girl was like, oh my God, I got a girl crush. They were allowed to kind of admit it, you know, and I just think it seems like there's more by women because they're able to be out and proud more so than men, you know? 100%. And most of my current recent partners have been bisexual men and I really enjoyed that. That was one of my questions for you. Do you, because I had a bi guy on Zachary Zane and he was saying that like, you know, you know him. Yeah, he was saying as a by guy. you know, he wanted a bi-partner and he believes that's the best partner for a bisexual, you know, and it does make sense.

Starting point is 00:36:28 Well, you get each other. Yeah. And there's nothing about me, you know, that makes me concern. If anything, it just turns me on. Right. Because I know this person is free to be himself and I want an honest person. I don't want someone who's hiding or burying something deep inside of him. It all just come out later in a different way.

Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, no, totally. I agree. And I think that it's unfortunate because a lot of people still in the vanilla world, if I'm listening to like vanilla podcasts or serious shows and someone's like bye, they always like, oh, nobody wants to date someone by. You know, they're so afraid that you're going to leave them for this person or that person. You know, so I think that, you know, you'd kind of get rid of all of that if the other person's by. And like I said, nowadays the younger people, they're all by, most of them, you know. It's kind of like. It's boring to be straight these days. Yeah, I felt like with my son, it'll be the like abnormal if he's not. You know, that's really what's going to be the odd thing out, you know. not like when we grew up. It's a totally different thing. Now, let me ask you this. How do people become members? Like, is there a fee?

Starting point is 00:37:23 Is that you just join? Is that, you know, like, do they go through the website? Do they go, you know, do the, and then, and then once they're in, they could start attending parties or anything and everything? Yeah. Once you're in, you can buy a ticket to any party around the world. We're in 36 cities. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:39 All major American cities, obviously, plus Australia, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and UK. even Hong Kong and Shanghai have a little social situation there. So everywhere you travel, we are. Oh, yeah. That's a good thing, though, to say, like, what's the difference that you've seen in other countries? Are there different stigma attached to it considering where you're, because I'm in, you know, the U.S., so I'm talking about where I am, but like in Singapore or like, what is it like over there for bi-women? Well, Singapore, it's not happening. That's a very conservative kind of, kind of, you know,

Starting point is 00:38:14 country and I was just there actually visiting some family. Yeah. And then I went to Hong Kong after and I literally just came from there like a week ago. Hong Kong is actually where I grew up as a kid. So I know Asia very well. Yeah. It is very conservative and there is still a lot of stronghold on religion there, which prevents more opening up of society.

Starting point is 00:38:33 I did a podcast with a good friend of mine who's a intimacy therapist and she was explaining to me even though herself she as bisexual. She didn't feel comfortable being out and proud. The gay community still wasn't very recognized, and it's still illegal for gay marriage in Hong Kong, despite it being such a modern city, which still surprises me. But, you know, there's any one direction that's going in. So, let's check back in, like, in five, maybe ten years time. And I bet you is our whole role reversal. I expect that to change very rapidly. Yeah, I mean, and I'm assuming you just, like, that's how you've grown and where you've seen the need, and that's how you went from, like, one city to ten. I mean, how many cities are you in at this point? 36. 36. Wow. And so on your website is all the information for everywhere,

Starting point is 00:39:19 depending on where somebody, wherever anybody is. They could see the events in their area. They can. And they can even join us on a retreat. This year I'll be hosting, oh, let's see, seven retreats. We're starting in Orlando, then Austin, Paris, Bali, New York Catskills, and Ibiza. So come join us for the weekend. It's a pretty epic way to spend your life. Oh, and what goes down at those retreats? Who's down? No, what goes down? Like, what kind of stuff?

Starting point is 00:39:48 What goes down? Yeah. Like, I would assume there's all different kinds of things. Like, you know, that, I mean, do you have like seminars and people teaching things and, you know, that kind of stuff as well, I would assume. Yeah, absolutely. In fact, more activations these days, I've got a lot into sex magic recently, which is a form of tantra and allows women to really get into their bodies. I think this is the next step for evolving from enjoying sex for pleasure to actually embodying sexual pleasure. Yeah, interesting.

Starting point is 00:40:19 I think it's the next step. And women are responding really well to this. The last retreat I did was Austin in October, and it went down so well. And a lot of these women were corporate women who, you know, very focused women who, you know, loved their careers and are quite strong-minded. Very control. Yeah, they were asked to just come. sit and breathe, embodiment. And it was quite new to them to just take time for themselves. Enjoy the pool, topless, make great conversations. And, you know, even in ceremony, there were

Starting point is 00:40:54 opportunity for experiencing the O method, which is a form of orgasmic meditation. And of course, we put on our own central play party in the evening, which is a way to express all of those new learnings. Right. Now, what do you, what would you say is like what a woman gets most out of being a part of this community and why you started it up to begin with, like that women need and why it's there? Because like a woman can go on apps nowadays and just like meet and other bywomen and stuff. But like what does the skirt club give them, the sense of community, uh, give them and what has you, what kind of feedback have you gotten back from the women who have joined? Yeah. This is, this is really important because,

Starting point is 00:41:37 ultimately women just want to be heard. They want to be seen and they would like you to listen. No one does that better than women themselves. So when you sit together and you listen intensely and you hold space for one another effectively, it's very healing. And ultimately, therefore, it's not about sex. It's about connection. And I think as a community, that's what Scott Club offers first and foremost. Sure, we do the sexy stuff, but it's just another way to interact with each other.

Starting point is 00:42:07 I think a lot of women are lonely and I think they're tired of doing all the work and they just want to sit and feel and they want to feel safe in that space doing it. So we're here to we're here to heal ultimately is how I'm seeing the skirt club. Right. They heal the women. And also I would assume maybe also help women get in touch with their sexuality that maybe they've never been in touch with it. Right? Well, they've blocked it. They've blocked it because of the shame attached to it.

Starting point is 00:42:32 We were told as young girls that it was dirty, you know, that we shouldn't enjoy sex. should use it, you know, it's more of a service to procreate and that's the purpose of it. But actually, we enjoy having sex as men do and there's no difference at all. And I think the sooner women start just admitting that and getting into themselves and their body wants more, the freer they'll feel. Yeah. And what you just said before, I forget what it was, but it was very profound when you said not just enjoying sex, but like making it a full bot. Like what did you just say before that you were teaching with the tantric sex? You said, going just from like sex as pleasure to so much more.

Starting point is 00:43:10 What did you just say? It was like really interesting. Oh, sexual embodiment, I think. Yeah, yeah. It's not just for pleasure. It's for the actual explosive feeling of sexual energy, which is incredibly powerful. There's a lot you can do with sexual energy.

Starting point is 00:43:23 I mean, I built a business on it. It's one of the strongest forms of energy. Yeah. Yeah. And like you said, that's different than just like regular hot sex, right? Like this is like taking it to the next level. And isn't that all about connection?

Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah, connection to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you're fully aligned within, like everything outside is just very easy to navigate. Yeah, no, totally. And so people could learn these things on your site or at your events at these retreats and everything.

Starting point is 00:43:54 This is like a one-stop shop for all of this kind of stuff. It's not just like a buy hookup scene. It's like empowering women, correct? That's how I see it. Oh, 100%. It's been about empowerment since day one. I think what's happened with Skirt Club is, you know, the sex party got a lot of press. And so, yeah, we featured heavily in media. It was always

Starting point is 00:44:15 about the sex party because, you know, it's clickbait or clipbait, as I like to call it. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. But it's something so much more. It truly is. And it always has been. And I think when you join Scott Club, you realize that, yeah, it's not, it never was about the sex. Yeah, no, I mean, I say that about my show all the time. I mean, I, I say that about my show all the time. I create very salacious titles, right? But if you actually tune in and click in, we're like talking about deep shit in there and there's psychology and there's levels and people are learning and people are growing and we're talking about real life stuff, you know.

Starting point is 00:44:48 The sex is what gets people in, but I feel like I always like teach people more and that's what it should be about. And everyone thinks sex is just sex, but there is, you know, it is someone's sexuality and stuff. It is a deep thing. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:45:01 It's not like you said, you got the press with the parties and everyone think that's super hot, but there's something so much deeper. going on. And that's what's interesting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So both of us are doing the same thing. We're using sex as, you know, super taboo. It gets people's attention. And then once they're through the door, you're like, well, you know, and here's the deep stuff. And this is going to really heal you. Yeah. I love that. So why don't you give out all your information where everyone could find you as well as like your social stuff and some like whatever's going on right now that maybe

Starting point is 00:45:32 you want to tell people about. And I'll put the link in the description. Thank you so much. Okay, you can find us on our website at skirtclub.co.ukuk. And here are listed all of our events around the world for this year, 2026. And you can join us for any of those. I'm in LA right now to host our next party, but they are every weekend. So come join us all over the world. Definitely somewhere near you. Yeah, I love that.

Starting point is 00:45:58 I love what you're doing. I think it's amazing. I love how you started, how it was totally unintentional. And like you said that, just it's because it was just something that you really had a passion for and that's and that kind of stuff I think always rises to the top the authentic stuff and it's amazing what it's grown into so I'm so glad you came on I had never heard of it and when you're when I got the email I was like oh I would love to have her come on and tell my audience about this because it it sounds like an amazing place for women that you created so I'm happy that you came on to tell

Starting point is 00:46:26 my audience about it oh and thank you for inviting me yeah it's a pleasure to share yeah thanks so much genevieve I keep on and call you guenevieve thanks to uh jenevieve thanks to uh jenevieve thanks Thanks so much for calling in. Of course. Thanks for having me. Bye. Bye-bye. Okay.

Starting point is 00:46:45 I just want to tell you before you go that I do have a book. The book is called Shirkling Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuckold story. There's a gang-bang girl story.

Starting point is 00:47:06 Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, right? So I took the interview and I rewrote it in the third person. I wouldn't call it like an erotica book, though there's plenty of sex in there, right? But I didn't write it to sound like erotica because that's like the vibe of my show. You're going to learn a lot. You're probably going to get a little turned on. It's a different way to hear these stories, like I said, because they're written out in third person. There's an e-book available if you don't want your partner to know that you're reading my book. Get the e-book. It's available. If you buy my book, any format, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. That is my gift to you for getting my book. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you'll get the Discord and go in there and be like, oh, this sucks. Okay. It's like pretty amazing. There's tons of people on there and everybody shares content with each other. That's what's great about Discord. You get to post your own videos and pictures and there's tons of channels and we have contests over there. It's a super fun place to be. I will be giving anyone that buys my book at any time access to my Discord. It is,

Starting point is 00:48:08 private. This is the only way you could get in is through me giving you the link. And that's why I think my Discord is so great because I have vetted people. It's not like it's just open to the public. So everybody that's in there are people that listen to my show and people that listen to my show are fucking great. So my Discord is fucking great. My book is great. You're going to love it. If you buy it, all you got to do is send me the receipt or a picture of proof that you bought it and I will give you free access to my Discord. Send it to Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at Gmail.com. You could find my book in the link in the description. Okay. Or just Google at Strictly Anonymous Confessions, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers.

Starting point is 00:48:39 You can find it anywhere. You buy books. Send me the picture and I'll give you access to my Discord email, Strictly Anonymous Podcast at Gmail.com. Anyway, thanks so much for listening. Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called Strictly Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers, is now available not only in paperback and ebook, but you can pre-order the audiobook.

Starting point is 00:49:05 book. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a gangbbing girl story. Like I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person. And I said, 17 stories. And they're all told in the third person and I wouldn't really call it like a total erotica book. Think like penthouse letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories. 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know,

Starting point is 00:49:54 one or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format, and finally the audiobook is available. coming out August 25th, but you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay, there's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay, I give it to people who buy my book. There's tons of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other. And that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money.

Starting point is 00:50:35 It's a super fun place to be. It's a total strictly anonymous community and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook or the paperback. Send it to me at strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com. That's strictly anonymous podcast at gmail.com.

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Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1379 - Bisexual & Bi-Curious Females Only Play Parties w/Skirt Club Founder Genevieve

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