Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1388 - Tom is Into Wearing Panties, Hooking-up with Guys, Pegging and More

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

Tom is into wearing panties, hooking up with guys, pegging and more and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including when he got into wearing leotards and how that led to wearing panties and lingerie, when he realized he was bi and what that means for him, his first experience with a guy and what went down, when he told his wife he was into guys and how she reacted, when he told her he also likes to wear feminine clothing and how she reacted, when he got into anal action himself, how and when he got his wife to peg him and how she feels about it, how and why he recently got into chastity and why he hasn’t told his wife he’’s into it yet, how he posts pics online of himself for guys even though his wife told him not to plus a whole lot more.  GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of BROOK plus my other female guests + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $7 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[e-mail]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2540-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠— Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠PikaVibe.com/Strictly⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click to get $15 OFF your purchase ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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available anywhere you buy books. I will put the link in the description. And if you buy the book and send me a screenshot of your receipt of purchase, I will also give you complimentary access to my private discord. All of the the links to everything that I talked about are in the description. Okay, today I have on Tom. Tom is like pretty interesting guy. He really got into wearing panties and leotards and stuff like that when he was little and just when you think the episode's going to be all about that. It's really not. Then we start to talk about the fact that he had his first experience with a guy when he was young. That was a whole maybe inappropriate story. You're going to hear that one. You're probably going to want to chime in about

that story. He wound up having a guy friend who copped to being into guys and he had his first experience with a guy. And then he wound up getting married. His wife knows everything, knows about the pandies, knows about the guys. And they play around. I mean, his wife is pretty okay with stuff. He does talk about how he revealed everything to her and how she reacted at first to everything and how she came around to everything and how much she engages. She's not totally into a lot of the stuff, but she does play with him. She pegs him sometimes. They have some toys.

She's not interested in him wearing panties or anything like that. He did cough to the fact that he was into those and stealing hers at some point. And he talks about how she reacted when he told her. And he recently got into Chastie playing. He talks about that. There's one thing that he's doing behind her back that we discussed. You're going to have to listen to hear the story. But it's a super interesting story.

I think he's like a pretty honest guy considering he's. He's been so upfront with his wife. He's got a pretty good situation. And you're going to hear all about it. So I'm going to get right tuned and be right back on with Tom. Hey, Tom. Welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast. How are you today?

I'm good. How are you doing? Good. Listen, Tom. You're a guy that's into a little anal action every now and then. Which I respect to the fact that you fucking admit it. Because I feel like there's a lot of guys out there that are doing the same shit you're doing, maybe secretly. And they just don't admit it.

And then all the guys that have. haven't tried it should, okay? Because I know I like anal, right? It's like one thing that guys and girls get sort of like, I understand what it feels like and I think it's great, you know? You are married. Your wife is vanilla, but she does dabble with you. She'll peg you sometimes. You're into wearing panties. You just got into chastity. We're going to get your whole life story like starting at the beginning, right? So let's go like, that's a snapshot of where you're at now. You're married, right? Your wife knows about the stuff that you're into. Does she know that you're considered, you consider yourself bisexual? Yeah. Okay. Cool.

So let's go though all the way back, Tom. Like when did you get into all the stuff? Like when did you know you were by? When did you start playing around in that region of yours and find out that you were into anal play? Like what, like, you know, I don't know where you want to start or where that starts for you. Sorry.

It probably starts really less about the buy stuff and more with the panties. Oh, okay. It starts with the panties. I like that. Okay. And how old were you that you remember like for some reason being attracted to panties? Were you like really young?

Were you one of those? yeah yeah I think it was around seven or eight yeah that's typically when a fetid like do you consider it a fetish by any chance or a king yeah uh I would say more kink it's not a fetish okay I'm okay without it but yeah yeah that's a difference I like yeah but typically like things like that and panty hose like I feel like a lot of these people they know it really early on so like seven or eight for some reason you get attracted to panties and you and you like you think to put them on

well it wasn't panties at first so So I have an older sister and she's a dancer. And during the summertime, she liked to get me and my brother in neighborhood kids and put on like dance shows. And one time when I was about seven or eight, she was doing this one summer. And, you know, we always give a performance at the end of the summer to my parents and their friends. And they were all trying to convince me to wear this red leotard as part of the dance thing.

It was part of the thing. And, and I was, I mean, I was up for it. I was like, okay, yeah, that's cool. No big deal. they were all like making such a big deal of like convincing me like no no like yeah I know it's weird you know whatever it's gonna look really good for the and they were making such a big deal about it I was like wondering like why is it such a big deal and then I put it on and I really loved the way it felt I loved the way it was felt so snug around my crotch and it was so silky and soft and I just loved everything about it but then on top of it I'm like why is everyone making such a big deal about this and I slowly kind of figure

out but it's like a little bit taboo like you know it's like girls leotard it wasn't you know boys weren't supposed to wear boys weren't supposed to be into it yeah but that was what was intriguing about it right yeah yeah definitely once you put together that this is like naughty you're like fucking right on right yep yeah exactly so super naughty and then also i was performing in front of other people so i was doing this really naughty thing that it wasn't supposed to be doing in front of all these other people that are looking at me and seeing the thing that I was doing. Oh, and you know what? You just reminded me that in your little email, I remember the word exhibitionist.

Yeah. Yeah. Things like that get, like, wired into you early on. Like, maybe those little plays that you did while you're wearing your leotards, people watching you, you know, wired you into it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah.

So go on. So you're wearing that stuff. So it's starting with, like, just the feminine clothing that, like, your sister put on you. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, that was, that was a thing. we did the show and, you know, nothing else after that.

And I didn't, I didn't start, I wasn't interested in panties yet. But when I, when I started going through puberty, it was probably 10 or 11, 12, you know, whatever, you know, my hormones are going crazy. I'm running all the time. And I found some paint, my sister's panties and the hamper. And I was, and I remember when I was a kid, like, it felt so good wearing that beat hard. And so I put them on and I, I loved it. So every chance after that, if I was home alone, I was, I was, The first place I was going was the hamper in the bathroom and seeing if there was any panties in there that I could wear.

And do you remember, like, when you put the panties on, was it like the feel of them, the look of them? Did you look at yourself in the mirror? Was it all of the above? Like, what was the sort of attraction to them at that age? I think it was everything. I mean, I always liked the way they felt they were so silky and smooth and, you know, were cotton, you know, briefs or whatever is on the pants. Which are, you know, it's not like rough or anything, but it's not silky smooth like the satin and silky and nice panties. So, so it felt good.

And then it also, like, I liked the way it looked. I liked the way, you know, it kind of was very close, you know, fit close and tightly to me. And I knew it was naughty. I knew I wasn't supposed to do it. It was taboo. And that really turned me on. So it's all the, the whole concoction again. Okay, cool.

So you start sneaking, you're wearing panty. Did you ever get caught when you were younger? No. Okay. No, I didn't. Okay, you were very good at hiding it. Yeah. So when did you... Well, I only, I only did it when I knew no one else was home. Yeah, a lot of people do it when no one else was home, but people could fucking walk in, okay, unexpected. You know, sometimes you think you know your schedule, but people get caught. You didn't. That's awesome. Did it ever progress to anything else other than panties? Yeah, so I started off wearing, you know, her dirty panties from the hamper, and then I started booking in her underwear drawers. And I saw some lingerie. I kind of put that on too, and I really like that too. Okay, so female undergarments really was like your hair.

Yeah. Yeah, I've heard of that. Okay, cool. So you're doing this, you're doing this on the DLA. It just continues, I would assume, because you're never caught. You're stealing from your sister. Now, you know, when does the whole guy thing come about? Because around that, you know, you start to get older. You start to, like, start hooking up with women.

You know, you like women. When do you realize that maybe you're into guys? Again, that was pretty early on. You know, when I was, when I hit puberty, it was right when AOL was real big. And so we got an AOL and they were always given out these like free trials you could do. And so I would make a new account every, you know, every so often I'd go through the trial thing. And then I, you know, anyway. So I would keep making these new accounts and I would go on there and there's all these chat rooms and people talking and you could trade dirty pictures, new pictures with each other.

And so I was trading these new pictures any chance I got. But there wasn't a lot out there. And I got, you know, I got a bunch of girls. Then I got this one, I actually remember the specific picture. There's this one, this cowboy. You know, a cowboy hat on and it was completely naked, face on to the camera. And, you know, giant heart on and everything. And, yeah, someone sent me that.

And I was like, again, it was like really curious. It was exciting. It aroused me. And so I kept looking for those. Okay. So that's when you realize, oh, I like guys too. Yeah. And what does bisexual mean to you?

Does bisexual mean that you would date a man or a woman and you're into both? Or does bisexual just mean that you're sexually attracted to both men and women? So bisexual to me, once I kind of figured out, it took me a long time to figure it out. But it means I would be, I'm definitely sexually attracted to both men, women, transgendered, everything. Like everyone, everything kind of gets me excited. Yeah. And I would date any gender. Yeah. How old are you, by the way?

43. 43. Okay. So you're a little ahead of the time. I feel like the younger generations. They're all like into whatever, you know, but not so much your generation. So you were ahead of your time. And you knew early on, like you were just down for whatever. Well, kind of. Kind of. I knew when I was masturbating and being by myself and all that kind of stuff that I was interested in a lot of different things. Yeah. But I was, I was very reserved and, and I, I, I, I, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I don't know how to explain it. Like, in my everyday life, like, when I was at school or whatever, like, I wouldn't really check out guys.

I was always looking at girls. And I didn't really consider, I didn't consider myself bisexual until I was like 30. Okay. But you knew, but you were jerking off to guys privately, but you didn't sort of put it together. Yes. Yeah, I get it. Okay. So you're dating women and all that kind of stuff.

Now, have you ever been before we get, like, we're going to stay chronological, but real quick question. Have you been with guys? Just one. Just one. Okay. And when was that? Before you were married? That was, yeah, that was when I was 18. He was actually my first sexual experience. Oh, okay. So let's go there. That's our chronological order. So you were with a guy before you were with a woman. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Yep. Interesting. So you're like, okay, tell me what happened and how did that come about? Because 18, it's like there's no apps at that time, really. Like, or was it AOL? AOL? A guy from AOL or was it a high school buddy?

No. No. So this is, this is, it's a little weird. It's kind of fucked up. and I'm just going to put it out there and then you can ask me any questions that you have. Okay. But one thing you got to know is I was raised Mormon. Okay. Yeah. So very, do what you're supposed to do and go and like tell the truth to those people?

Like, I've heard some fucked up things. No, no, no, no, no. I never did that. You lied. Never did that. They were like, oh, you're not supposed to do this. You're not supposed to do that. I'm like, I'm doing all that stuff.

I'm not saying anything. Yeah, exactly. Okay. But anyway, so I was raised that. So I was very repressed and, you know, there's all kinds of stuff that fucked me up for a long one time. And there was this guy in our church who was, he had a little construction business and he used to hire kids from church to help him out doing construction work. You know, during the summer and holidays and stuff. So I worked for him for a couple of summers and we got to be really good friends.

And so I started hanging out with him. I would hang out with him on like Fridays. I'd go over there. We'd have dinner. We'd watch TV. Did he have a wife or was he a single guy? No, he was a single guy. Okay.

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I would hang out with him on like Fridays. I'd go over there. We'd have dinner. We'd watch TV. Did he have a wife or was he a single guy? No, he was a single guy. Okay. And how old was he?

Was he like a 50-year-old man or like a 27-year-old man? I was, I think, mid-30s. Okay. And you guys, you felt like you were like a buddy of his. Did you feel like you looked up to him like he was an elder? Or did you feel like you were like friends and on the same level? When I first got to know him, I kind of looked up to him. Yeah.

But then as we got to know each other and became friends, I felt more than cool. You just felt like a buddy. Okay, cool. Okay. So you're going over as far. You establish like a real friendship. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. And so we, we were talking one night and he, he kind of came out to me. He told me, you know, there's a reason I'm single. You know, I dated this girl for a long time. I never got married. Don't really date any other girls now, whatever. And, you know, he told me why.

He's like, I'm, you know, I'm gay or whatever. And I was just. just like a little bit taken aback. I was like, oh, I don't know, you know, what, I didn't even know how to take that. Like, I was just very surprised. Yeah. Real quick question. Sorry.

And this is just making me, like, sort of figure out how I'm going to judge this guy. How long, like, were you guys friends before he, like, put this out to you? Like, was it a year? Was it two months? Was it three weeks? Do you remember? I mean, it was a couple of years. He was friends with my family.

Okay. So a long time. He was friends with my family since I was young. Yeah, that doesn't matter. But I'm just saying with you, you. You were friends with him for years before he copped to this. Yes. Okay.

That's a little bit less inappropriate. Is that like three months into your friendship or six months in? He's like, oh, by the way, I'm gay. And he was like grooming you to do something. You guys were legitimate friends for many years, just you and him, whatever. And then one day after being very close with you for many years, he just confided in you. Yeah. Okay.

So you're not 18 anymore when he confides in you. Well, no, I mean, I was. I started working for him when I was like 16. Oh, okay. And we were kind of friends. And where was I? Oh, yeah. So he told me, I didn't react well.

Yeah, I didn't react well. And, you know, we still hung out and whatever. And then he brought it up one night and he's like, the reason I mentioned it is I kind of thought you were too, you know, like I don't mean to pry or whatever. But that's why. And I thought about it and I, you know, thought about it for a couple weeks or whatever. And then I met up with them again. And I, and Mitchum was like, yeah, I think I like guys too. I think I might be gay.

And then we kind of got together after that. Who made the first move? He did. Right. Now, why do you think he thought you were gay? Like, do you think he just smelled it from a mile away because you were, like, or because you were into guys? Like, did he ever, did you ever, like, looking back now, like, being older, you know,

as an older person looking back, do you feel like he ever was, like, flirting with you or sniffing around for information from you? Like, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out whether this guy was, like, you know, angling for you the whole time while you were this younger guy or if it just legitimately came up within your friendship? I think, so everyone that I have told, I told my wife this, my parents found out about all this, they all think that I was taking advantage of and I was groomed and all this stuff. Yeah.

But I don't feel that way personally. I think he came to this organically. I think that he was at a point in his life where he was ready to admit this to someone. Yeah. And I happened to be close with him at the time. One of the reasons I think that is after we, after I stopped hanging out with him, which the end was pretty traumatic. But after that, he completely changed his life.

He stopped going to the church. He started hanging out with gay friends. He, you know, went out like Gabriel Hood in the city, you know, all this kind of stuff and started doing all these other things. And you had never done that before, you know, this is like. Like, so maybe you were like the catalyst is what you're saying. He was like ready to just like come out. And you were maybe someone that he was the closest with.

and maybe on some level because you were. Listen, he wasn't wrong, okay? Like, he didn't turn you gay, okay? Like, you were jerking off to guys before him. So he wasn't wrong to say to you or to pick up that you were into guys too. You weren't like this totally hetero guy that this guy started grooming you to be into guys. I mean, that was something that you did on your own. So he wasn't wrong to sort of pick up that you were maybe a safe person within the Mormon community because that's pretty hardcore.

to be able to confess to somebody because maybe he never had and felt like maybe you would be okay with it. Yep. And that's exactly what I think, yeah. Yeah. And then how soon after he told you did he make a pass at you? I don't remember exactly. He told me, and it was like a few weeks that we were kind of going back and forth.

But after I told him that I thought I was attracted to men, he made a pass at me like that same night. Game on. Any guy. Yeah, window of opportunity, jump right in. Mm-hmm. Okay. And how was, listen, it's hard to judge the situation. You know, I think people would all medically assume because like you're the younger person.

You know, it's hard like, you know, because you're 18, right, when this happens out of high school? Yeah. Do you have kids by any chance? Yes, I do. Do you have a boy, a son? Yeah. Like if you put your son in that position, right? Like would you think of like that he was being groomed if he told you the same story?

Like, you know, if you look at the story outside of your son. I wonder what you would think. I've thought about that. Yeah. I would definitely be suspicious, you know, because it, from the outside, like I thought about this objectively, from the outside looking in, it looked, it didn't look good. It's like 30 something, 35, 36 year old guy, whatever, hanging out with his 18 year old. I totally get how, you know, on the outside looking in, it doesn't look right.

But, you know, I lived the experience and people, people that are told, are just hearing what, you know, I have to say and are looking at it through their own lens. So they don't see that. So, you know, if it's, if the road, if something like that ever happened to my son, like I would definitely be suspicious about it and I would try and talk to him about it. But you'd want to get all the details because you feel like with your details and your specific information, you don't feel like that's the case, even though most of the time that kind of situation is maybe a grooming situation.

I mean, I'm looking, what I always like to do in these kinds of scenarios when people talk about, like, oh, the teacher, like, fuck their student or ever. And some people will be like, that wasn't inappropriate, whatever, like she's hot, whatever. I'm like, you know, why don't you look like, why don't you Google kids that age? And then you tell me whether you think that that's normal that that 25 year old wanted to fuck that, you know, 12 year old. And if you look at a picture of 12 year old, you're like, I'm like, it looks like a child. You know, what I'm doing while you were just talking me is I pull up a picture of an 18 year old.

And like an 18 year old still looks so young to me compared to somebody like in his 30s. And I, the only way I like, because I'm a, I like to just, I don't really know the exact situation. Sometimes I will say that victims of, you know, grooming don't feel like it was grooming because they were victim. You know what I mean? They were so groomed that they just can't see it for what it is. Do you have a relationship with him for a long time or was it a one time thing? No, no. We, we had, we got together about three or four times.

Did you get caught or something? Because you said it ended badly. yeah no I it was all just going it was a little bit too fast for me and so I asked him to slow down what do you mean why he was he telling you he loved you or something like why the fuck was going fast what was going fast uh it just felt like every time that we were together after we admitted this that all he wanted to do is be physical and you know I was still trying to

try to understand what was going on with myself you know like so yeah so like I was just like a little fucked up and was like hey can we just take it easy a little bit Yeah, you're 18. This is too much. This is a lot to take it. Yeah. So he kind of took that personally and that didn't go well. And then right around that same time, my family happened to be going on a vacation.

We're going out of town. And he kind of freaked out and thought that I was leaving him forever and he had some kind of issue. Anyway, he tried to commit suicide. He said to like the suicide note. I had to like call the police, go over there to stop him, wait until like police got there and brought him to a hospital. and then after that he was just he was so pissed at me you didn't want to have anything else to do with me and so that's that's kind of how it ended yeah well he fell in love with you he was really gay like he and he wound up being gay later and that's what you said he finally came into his own he had that it's sad

because you know here was this guy that you know probably fell for you because you were the person he was closest to you happen to be way too young for him you know unfortunately and he probably you know, was dying to make a connection with a man. He was like repressed his whole life. Finally he was able to be himself and he just like threw himself at you. Inappropriately, he was the adult.

He should have had control of himself. But when you repress people so bad, like this is all the fucked up shit that happens. You know what I mean? Like when people aren't allowed to really be who they are, this kind of shit happens. You know, you got to feel sorry for him in a way. You know, he didn't try to fucking off himself

because he was a happy person. He was like this gay man who had to hide it his whole life. And the first person he could tell is like an 18 year old that isn't ready for what he was ready for. You know what I mean? It was very unfortunate. But thank God he didn't make it. You know, he didn't wind up offing himself. He's happy being gay.

You move on with your life. When do you, let's get to the point where you meet your wife and like the pegging and all that stuff starts maybe. Okay. Okay. So I, so my wife is actually the younger sister of a friend of mine that I went to high school with. Okay. So like I had known her when I was a kid, but, you know, she was, you know, my friend's little sister had paying the attention to her. Yeah. Fast forward, my friend, this is maybe 10 years later, my friend was getting married and he asked me to stand up at his wedding and she and I got paired up at the wedding.

And so we renew our acquaintance and, you know, kind of started talking or whatever. And that's, that's kind of when we started our relationship. Okay. Okay. And now, did you tell her anything about anything? So when we first got together, we were living in different states. And so it was kind of long distance. It was over email and Skype and that kind of stuff. And then we started talking about, she started talking about moving near me. She didn't move in with me, but just near me got an apartment close to where I was living.

But, I mean, it was like she was a huge move. It was, you know, multiple states away. Yeah. So we started talking about this and planning it. And I kind of get obsessive. So I read about stuff online all the time. and I was reading all these stories about guys who had come out to their wives, you know, years down the road or their wife found them looking at gay porn or whatever. And they were like, yeah, you know, I'm by. Like, I still love you, all this kind of stuff.

And the wife is just like, well, you've been lying to me all these years. And it was, you know, really, really bad. Yeah. I have all those stories on my show. Yeah. Well, and especially because, you know, I really liked, you know, I love her. Obviously, she's my wife now. Yeah.

I really liked her, but she was also like one of my best friends younger sisters. So like I was very aware of like not treating things with kid gloves and not doing things that were going to be, you know, that were carelessly, I guess. Yeah. And so when she started talking about moving in with me, or not with me, moving to me, making this big move, I felt like I had to tell her then. So I, I, on Skype one night, we're talking or whatever. And I was like, listen, I got something to tell you, you know, I'm bisexual. And I told her. and, you know, it didn't go well at first because she, you know, this is kind of way out of nowhere.

She didn't know what, what was going on. And she thought that I was like trying to tell her like, yeah, I'm bisexual. I want to go like fuck a bunch of other guys, but still be cool with you. And like she was definitely not cool with that. And so she got real upset and it was like a problem until, you know, we started talking about it more. And I explained her. I'm like, look, you know, monogamy is monogamy. I'm with you, whether boy or girl, like, I don't care.

You know, I'm a kind of guy that only goes with one person. Regardless. Yeah, regardless. But you're interested in 50% of the people out there are 100%. I mean, this is why it's so ridiculous that people think that bisexual people can't be in a relationship with someone because they're interested in both sexes. You know what I mean? Typically, people think that.

But I love what you're explaining because that's the truth of it if someone is a monogamous person. So I told her and I was like, look, I just wanted you to know everything about me. I didn't want this to come about later. I didn't want you to think I was hiding anything from you. or like trying to sneak around or whatever. And so I kind of just came out with it all then. And then, you know, we talked about it and worked through it and everything was good.

And then the stuff with that guy and, you know, other stuff that happened, like, you know, that just came naturally down the road. Right. Now, what about the dressing up? Like, because I would, should I assume that throughout all of this stuff, including while you're with your girl, that you have been like putting stuff on and wearing sometimes by yourself? I actually stopped for a long time. I listen to your show and I listen to all these guys that are like, you know, they would go to department stores or go to Victoria's Secret or buy online.

Yeah. I never really did that. Like I always, I always kind of like swipe these from people. And that's how I did it. So, like, I stopped for a long time. Okay, guys, want to walk into the bedroom and know you're going to be able to perform. But also know, you're going to feel more aroused and connected all at the same time. Well, that's where BluChute Gold comes into play.

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I never really did that. Like I always, I always kind of like swipe panties from people. And that's how I did it. So, like, I stopped for a long time. Okay. And then we got together and we moved in together and I sort of had access to panties again. And so that's kind of what started me wearing them again. You're wearing hers.

Access to them. Yeah. But does she know? She does now. So I told her a couple of years ago. Why? Because you got caught or because you wanted to come clean? No, I wanted to come clean.

We were, you know, we were, you know, we were, We're on a camping trip. We're hanging out. We got a little drunk and we're just talking, you know, in the night. And I think we were talking about sex and other other stuff, you know, different fantasy and things like that. And so I told him like, oh, yeah, by the way, you know, I just, I have ever since I was a kid, I like to wear panties. Like it's something that kind of turns me on. I like to do it or whatever.

And she kind of grilled me about it. And I, you know, told her like, yes, I wear yours sometimes too. Like, you know, obviously not when you're around. Oh, my God. What did she say? Uh, she, she said she was okay with it, but she's not into it. Okay. So she's like, you know, it's all right.

Like, you know, I'm not going to tell you not to touch my stuff or, you know, whatever. You can keep doing what you're doing, but I don't, she doesn't want to see it. She's like, I don't want it involved in our sex life. I don't want to see it. It's something that turns her off. Mm-hmm. That's not bad. It could have been a lot worse, that conversation.

It's disappointing because I wish we could, I wish we could. I wish we could, you know, have that play together. I wish I could show her that. But yeah, in the grand scheme of things, it's not too bad. No, listen. Again, she didn't freak out. She didn't, like, get upset about anything. She's cool with it.

But she did make it clear to you, like, you could do it. I don't really care, but I don't ever want to see it. Yeah. So that was a couple of years ago when she said that. Now, recently, she had just bought a whole bunch of new panties. And I saw, like, a few pairs that were, like, sitting on top of her. of her dresser. I was cleaning up the house one day

while she was at work and I texted her. I'm like, hey, what's going on with these? Are they dirty? Are they clean? Like, I just wanted to put them away or whatever. And she was like, oh, yeah, I don't really like them. Like, it was a new style that I was trying. I don't like the way they fit or whatever.

And then she texted me as like cheeky text message. Like, maybe you can take them and, you know, I thought with them or whatever. And so I was like, okay. So, like, you know, even if she's not into it, like she's cool with it. So I did. I took them and kind of their,

they're my own little personal stash. Yeah. Although most of the time when I wear panties, I like to wear her dirty panties. The dirty panties thing is like another one of those like taboo things. It kind of turns me on. Yeah, because that's what you were doing when you were little. You know what I mean? Like that's what you got wired into.

That's what was available. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense. Okay, so she knows about that. And she was able to get past the by stuff when you explained to her that you're monogamous. Have you ever had any desire to be with a guy while you've been with her? Did you guys ever discuss anything like that?

Or are you just totally cool? Because you're a monogamous guy. I mean, I have urges. You know, I still want, yeah, I want to be with a guy. You know, because I'm married to her and we're together, like, most of the time when I masturbate and do stuff alone, it tends to be more gay oriented because I kind of get, the way I think in her mind is like I get my straight fix from her. Exactly. And so when I'm doing stuff on my own, like, I tend to watch gay porn and, you know, do, you know, do that kind of stuff.

Yeah. But you did get her. Okay, so you're into pegging and sometimes she will engage with that, right? Like how did that become a part of your guy's relationship? Well, I've been into ass play since I was a kid. You know, when I was a teenager, you know, first discovering masturbation, you know, I would do like a, you know, the end of a hairbrush or whatever. Like, I was always sticking stuff up my ass.

Oh my God. I remember I had a guy on once who put a G. Joe up his ass. I never did that. I kept the things that were smooth. Yeah. Go on. But yeah. And then once I, you know, once I grew up and moved out, I started getting my own, my own toys and things like that.

So I had my own little thing. And I never really showed it to her and show her any of my toys. She was not very interested in that. But, you know, we would have conversations over the years about, you know, what fantasies and what we'd want. And, you know, I told her, you know, that I would love it if she would peg me, you know, whatever. And she's like, no, I'm not into it. And then years later, four or five, six years later, for Christmas one year, she gave me one last Christmas present. It was just a little piece of paper.

And I opened it up. I opened it up and it said, you know, I want to peg you. And so then we started, you know, we looked for harnesses that would fit the dildo that I have and kind of did the whole thing. And it was still like a, I think over a year after that before we finally actually did it for the first time. That's kind of major, don't you think? Yeah. Yeah, it was huge. I was so excited when I saw that.

Yeah, and so how was that experience the first time? The first time was a little bit weird. I always have a hard time on first times with everything. Like the first time I'm with a new person. I tend to have like performance anxiety and like things. They never go well that first time. I'm always very anxious. Yeah.

So it was okay. The second time though, was so, so nice. It was just kind of everything I kind of hoped it would be. It was, you know, a lot of stuff I've done myself to myself. Yeah. It was nice to be sharing that with. you know, my wife and the person that I love the most and having her sharing that and, and fuck me and everything. Like it was just, it was great. How was the experience for her?

Do you know? It was, I mean, it was fine. Like it didn't, it didn't really turn her off, but it didn't turn her on. She's, she's very much like, it's not her thing, but she does it for me, but she loves me. You know, it's like, you know, hey, and that's why we don't do it very often. Probably two or three times a year. Because she doesn't really get anything out of it. It's kind of a whole big production. Yeah. You know, we've got kids. So trying to find time that you can spend like an hour completely uninterrupted.

Yeah, of course. It's tough. So, you know. Well, listen, you know, it is like the best worst case scenario. I mean, you're pretty lucky considering. I talk to a lot of guys that are into the things that you're into. And, you know, you have a wife that's a lot more open and willing to do stuff than most, right? Listen, the idea would be that she's, you know, pegging you and she loves it.

it. But the fact that, you know, she just does it for you is better than not doing it at all. Because there's plenty of guys that call into my show where their wives know they're not into it. And they don't do it because they don't get anything out of it. You know, and at least she will do it for you when you do ask, you know, which is cool. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah. And you enjoy it, right? Do you play with toys when you're not pegging or is it just like what any kind of ass play with her and you is like pegging? no she she she doesn't she doesn't really like playing with my ass she the the whole poop thing like really it really freaks her it even if everything's clean like she's like oh it might be something

there like it really just grosses her out so every once in a while we'll do some ass play and you know we'll do pegging and stuff yeah what i really want to do and i got to talk to her about this but what i really want to do is just play with the dildo more just like like i like to i like to go down and i like to suck it like it makes me i like that as much if not more than actually getting fucked by it. Does she know that? Yeah, I mean, I told her, and I think I just got to keep reminding her and keep bringing it up.

Yeah. I don't bring it up very much because, like, I don't want to be the kind of guy that's just like, always like, hey, can we do my thing? Can we do my thing? Can we do my thing? Yeah. And she's been going back to school. Like, our time together is pretty limited right now.

So, like, I don't bring it up very often. And I think because of that, it just kind of goes on the back burner for her. She doesn't think about it's kind of out of sight out of mind. And you're riding the line. of not being a pain in the ass, but getting your needs met and everything, which is smart. Mm-hmm. You know, but so you want to, like, mock up a scenario of, like, did you guys ever, like, roleplay, like, that there is another guy with you guys?

We, sometimes when we dirty talk, she was a little dirty talk about me, like, me going out and, like, sucking guys off or getting fucked or, you know, whatever. So, like, that's definitely something that comes into, like, our dirty talk fantasy. But a lot of times when we're doing that, you know, it's regular sort of, sort of, actual sex is pretty vanilla, but it's the dirty talk that kind of gets us going. Yeah, but that's when you bring the toy in and you go down on it. You know what I'm saying? You make that sort of that dirty talk a role play scenario and you could get off that way, right? Like if you could bring that dirty talk into the pegging and into the giving the thing a blowjob,

like that, won't that take it up a notch? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Like I said, it's just, it's hard to find time to like discuss it all. And, you know, sometimes when you're in the heat of the moment, you don't want to stop and, like, go get the toy out and everything. Yeah. And, you know, again, we've got kids. It's got to be, like, hidden away. It can't just be, like, on the bedside table or something. Yeah, I got it.

That's cool. But it's on, it's like on your mind to bring up at some point. Yeah. Yeah. So right now, she, she went back to school for a master's degree and she's just finishing it up. So that's where, like, it's just, things have not been in a great spot to, like, really focus on that. But she's, she's almost done this is their last semester. So I was thinking after the holidays, you know, kind of bring up.

bring up some more of this kind of stuff when we have a little bit more bandwidth yeah no that's smart that's smart because she's also a mom too so she's got a lot on her plate let me ask you this you said that you were also got recent like you're recently you also got into a chastity play right yes and how did that come about and does she engage does she engage with you no that that's actually just me on my own so far i you know because because we haven't been together all that much i'm a bit of a night out she goes to bed early so i have a lot of time at night to myself and that's when i you know i kind of play and i explored things and i i want you know i watch a lot of porn and i kind of dip into all kinds of different different kind of genres in different categories or whatever and i started

seeing some chastity porn they kind of got me excited and so i went on uh the team timu i went on tymu that cheap chinese knockoff thing yeah and i got a i got a couple of cheap you know chastity cages and I've just kind of been playing on my own for right now, seeing if I'm into it, seeing if it's something that I, you know, I want to talk to her about. You know, like I said, like, now's not the best time. And it's something I wanted to see if I would be interested in before I brought it up to her and then, you know, kind of be like, yeah, like, I want to try this. And then go through and be like, oh, no, that wasn't that great.

But let me just tell you, like, well, let me ask you this. Have you been enjoying the ones that you've got on Timu? Yes, I have. Oh, that's pretty good because I have had, like, connoisseurs of chess. play who have been doing in a long time. You know, let's say like when you really get into it. They talk about this one.

I forget it's like the CB 12. I forget what the name of it is. But like there is like the gold star chastity cage thing that like makes all the difference as far as like the feel and stuff. So I was going to say like if you don't necessarily like the way those cheap knockoffs feel like maybe it's just because they're cheap knockoffs. But the fact that you like the cheap knockoffs mean the you're you would really love the high end things that you're probably just really fucking into chastity.

play. Yeah, I mean, I really look at. I think, you know, I think that, you know, I got, I had to get a few to kind of find ones that that kind of fit correctly. And the other thing is, like, I don't get to wear it that much because it's only, you know, like I haven't told her about it. So it's only like, you know, at night when I'm playing for a couple of hours. So it's, it's hard for things to get too uncomfortable in that short of time frame.

But I figure, you know, try the knockoffs first. And, you know, if I introduce it to her and we start, you know, She starts keeping me locked up for long periods of time and they're not comfortable. Then we can look at something else. So what's the longest you've been locked up just for a couple of hours because you're doing it without her knowing? Yeah, yeah. The longest I've been is a few hours, yeah.

And are you into the whole like tease and denial thing? Like it's like, how did you come into figuring out that like you're into tracity or wanted to try to begin with? Yeah. I mean, I'm into edging a lot. You know, a lot of times when I'm playing with myself. Like, I'll go for a long period. time.

Yeah. And so it's, it's just kind of another fun way to do that. And, you know, adds, add some more sensation. It's a kind of a psychological thing that, you know,

like, if you're into it, you're getting really horny, you go down to reach for your dick, and it's like not there. Yeah. So it's, you know,

there's just, I don't know. Well, listen, if you're into edging, it's a thing. No, I mean,

I've talked to guys like you. I realized I was into like tease and denial once I heard, like, guys talking about it. Because I don't like good things to be over. You know, I like to extend it as long as possible. Yeah.

Same. Yeah. Yeah. So I totally understand. And some people are just wired that way, you know? And so it makes sense that if you like to edge and really sort of make those experience like last as long as possible, that that's like ideal. Because that's what Chastity is doing. Like you're turned on the whole time, correct?

Yeah. I mean, I am. Yeah. And it's something that kind of like, you know, there's been a few times I've been able to do it during the day when I've just been kind of going around doing my. regular daily stuff. Yeah. It's this like subtle reminder of like, oh yeah, like I got something naughty going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You and your taboo. You and your taboo stuff. You've been doing it since you're little. You don't do, I mean, what's with the exhibitionist stuff? I mean, you don't do anything inappropriate, I would hope. But like what is like your exhibitionist thing that you have? That's the last thing I want to ask you about. I like to share pictures online.

You know, nude pictures and me and panties, I mean chastity pages now. Oh, okay. Show yourself off. Does your wife know about that? No. So I did it once a few years ago, and I told her about it right away, and she was like, no, I don't want you doing that. And this is the one thing where I'm just kind of like, I stopped for a while and I'm just like, I can't, like, I just couldn't stop myself. And so I don't do it all the time. But every so often, if it's been, you know, a few months, I'll get really horned up and take some pictures and post them online. Okay, but how safe are you with those pictures and stuff because the fact that you asked her and she specifically said no if you get busted with those picks it's it going to be a fucking problem you know that right yeah yeah i know i'm i'm pretty safe with it none of the pictures have any kind of identifying stuff in them like my head's cut off and you can't really see what's in my house or whatever okay let me ask you this did you let her know the extent like did you let her know that like when you were posting those picks like you don't post your face you're very anonymous like do you think maybe you've

she knew that kind of stuff she'd be okay with it, or do you think that she doesn't like you engaging with guys at all? Because it is with men. Yeah, I mean, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I just wonder if, like, you could somehow get her to okay the situation. Yeah, I've talked to her about it.

And it's the, it's not even necessarily men. It's just engaging with other people outside of our relationship. She just does not like, even though it's like anonymous and it's usually just like a post-a-pick and people will be like, oh, well, that's hot and I'll be, you know, just thanks, you know, whatever. Like, I don't, I don't push it past that, but she just doesn't feel comfortable with it. All right.

Can I ask you a question, though? Then why do you do it? I don't know. Like I said, it's just every so often, I just, I get, I get a really, I get an urge that I just can't seem to, to ignore. Like, do you feel like maybe that fulfills your, the part of you that's into guys that you can't go out and meet them in person? And so doing something like that, it like sort of gives that part of you, like, satisfaction and that keeps it at bay? Yeah, I definitely think that's part of it. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, maybe, you know, listen, I always think it's much better. Listen, because you got a really good girl considering everything that you're into. She's accepted everything. She did tell you this one thing, no. If she finds out that you still did it, it's going to be devastating to her, right? because she specifically said no, but you continue to do it. And therein lies that like that becomes like a little bit of a problem, right?

For the guy that's very monogamous because, you know, you're doing something that you're not supposed to do because you specifically asked she specifically said no. So maybe you want to keep like pushing forward and maybe explain to her that like, you know, I don't know how you get her to okay it because she's very not. again like has she ever been close to accepting it like or do you feel is she so adamant like no fucking way i haven't really brought it up since it came up a couple of years ago but she was very adamant then you know i kind of talked to her about and i you know was very innocent like i don't see the big deal about it like i'm just like posting in like people looking at me or whatever and she was just

looking at like well what they're going to start talking to you and then you go back and forth and who knows what could happen um she's right see it that way and i said i would never do that but you know she that's like that's where she's at So yeah, well, maybe you bring it up again because like nowadays, only fans and so many people are posting themselves all over the fucking place. You know what I mean? And whatever. Like, you know, maybe you bring it up again and maybe you say, listen, I'll be transparent with you. And you could see that there's no conversations or anything going on. You know, I just like don't ever want you to get busted doing something like this and then, you know, sort of have your whole thing blow up in your face for something that really isn't that bad like you said, right? Like it's and really, really, What would be bad is that she just found out that you were lying to her. It's not what you're doing. You're not cheating on her really in your mind. But the problem is you're doing something that she specifically said no to.

And that's why, you know, and so maybe like keep talking to her about it and see if you could get the okay eventually. So you're not doing anything behind her back. Don't you think that would be better? Yeah, it probably would. Yeah, I just don't want you to get busted. I don't know. And, you know, make sure you hide your fucking shit. I mean, there's that part of my intro to my podcast.

It's like, the only thing I'd say is like, rehide your whips and chains, because I remember the one of the first guys I called up. I'm like, where do you hide all your BDSM stuff? Because he was like a married guy. He's like, in my trunk. I was like, oh, my God. Imagine you get in a car accident.

I mean, you know, I just worry when there's pictures and there's phones and there's apps like, you know, you could wind up getting busted and you just don't want to. Because even though your wife is not totally, totally kinky and, like, you know, the idea. wife for you. She's pretty good considering, you know, and she does sort of accept most of you. So you don't want to get busted doing that. So maybe try bringing it up again and maybe letting her know that you're not putting your face. Maybe say you won't talk to people and they'll just comment, but you won't talk back and you'll be transparent, you know, that can maybe work. But, you know, and, you know, I'll be curious to see what she does with you with the Chastity thing. You're going to bring that up to her soon. Do you plan? Yeah, I want to. I think early next year.

Right, after she's out of her thing, like you said, like you're going to bring that, maybe bring that to her. That's cool. Do you feel like you could not be with a guy for the, I mean, you know, for the rest of your marriage? Yeah. I mean, it's disappointing. But if the choices, you know, stay married or get with, you know, have sex with men. I'd rather stay married. And maybe if you could do, like you said, you're going to up your game. I forgot. Like, you know, maybe if you could do, like you said, you're going to up your game. I forgot. Like, you know, maybe if you could do. more role-playing and use the toys more and bring the dirty talk and the toys together and really mock up the guy situation in your guy's bedroom together. That will help, you know, because role play, if you really get into it, could be very satisfying, you know, if you both really get into it.

But, you know, keep me posted. Make sure you don't get fucking busted, okay? I don't know why I worry for you. Just with the pictures. I worry for you because you're just such a, like, a monogamous guy. you're very, you're so honest about everything with your girl, you know, I hate that you have to be dishonest about this with her, you know, and she would probably be like, what the fuck. I remember I had one boyfriend who was like, I knew everything that he did. He was like the greatest boyfriend I ever

had and he did so many drugs and stuff in front of me. I was like, you know, but there was like something weird going on and I found out so many years later that he was like doing snorting heroin the whole time behind my back and I was like, oh my God. Yeah, but like the whole point was like, he had told me everything. He did shrooms. He did everything else. Like, why not? tell me that and would and that's what was so it's so weird and that would be the same thing with your girl like you know like he told me he did guys he told me this he told me like why did he do that behind my back you know anyway and the truth would be that like you just like to do it and you don't think that it's bad so you did it you know but you know that would be a tough conversation

to have with her so just you know don't get fucking caught try to bring it up again and get the free pass to do it nowadays so many people are doing stuff like that even more more than a few years ago when you brought it up so maybe she'll feel differently. Talk about it. Like a lot of girls have only fans. They're not cheating. You know what I mean? Like maybe you tie it into that or something. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. And I tell her, give her full transparency. You can look at my fucking phone. I won't talk to anybody, but I just like people to see. And it would, you know, and I do, I would enjoy it. But I don't want to do it without you knowing. You know what I mean? Can I please and see maybe she has a change of heart. So listen, Tom, if you want to send in picks,

I mean, guys don't really send them picks, but you're going to get free access to my Discord. When we hang up, you'll get, you'll be a little exhibitionist there. Let me tell you, when you see what goes down on my Discord, you're going to love it. But also you will get that,

you're going to get the free link when we hang up. And then when your episode airs on my podcast, maybe next week, maybe next Tuesday, or maybe next Friday, I will send you a free link to Patreon so you can see the comments for a month. But thank you so much for calling in.

And good luck with everything with your wife. I love your story. Okay, thanks for me. Thanks. Thanks, Tom. And I'll email you when your episode is going to be up, okay? All right. Sounds good.

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