Strictly Anonymous Confessions - 1409 - Jessie is a Cam Guy who Wears Pantyhose

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

Jessie is a cam guy who loves pantyhose and he called in to talk all about it. Tune in to hear all the details including how he felt about hose when he was younger, the first girl who got him into wea...ring pantyhose and how hardcore she was into hose herself, the crazy sexual things they did together while they booth wore hose, the cam site he went on to for fun and the female pantyhose model who hesitated camming with, how and why that eventually led to him camming while wearing hose, who was tuning in to watch him. what goes down during his camming sessions, the most popular request he gets from guys who watch and what he’s down for, how much he typically makes in a good night and the best nights to cam, the content creators he has worked with and what they do together, the brands he likes to wear both while camming and in real life plus a whole lot more.  You can see him camming on Chaturbate as Pantyhoseattic666 and on Strip Chat as Pantyhoselover54 GET A COPY OF THE STRICTLY ANONYMOUS BOOK! Strictly Anonymous Confessions: Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers. A bunch of short, super sexy, TRUE stories. GET YOUR COPY HERE: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://amzn.to/4i7hBCd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To see HOT pics of my female guests + get exclusive HOSER episodes + hear anonymous confessions + get all the episodes early and AD FREE, join my Patreon! It's only $8 a month and you can cancel at any time. You can sign up here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/StrictlyAnonymousPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and when you join, I'll throw in a complimentary link to my private Discord! To join SDC and get a FREE Trial! click here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.sdc.com/?ref=37712⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to SDC.com and use my code 37712   Want to be on the show? Email me at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠strictlyanonymouspodcast@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and click on "Be on the Show." Want to confess while remaining anonymous? Call the CONFESSIONS hotline at 347-420-3579. All voices are changed.   Sponsors: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://LoadBoost.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — To get 10% off LOAD BOOST by VB Health use code: STRICTLY ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://beducate.me/pd2610-anonymous⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Click here to take the quiz and  get your personalized roadmap to sexual happiness ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.quince.com/strictlyanon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — For premium quality Quince clothing plus FREE shipping and 365 day returns! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bluechew.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ — Get 10% OFF your first month of Bluechew GOLD! Use code: STRICTLYANON⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://inda.shop/STRICTLY!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you’re 21 or older, get 40% OFF your first order @IndaCloud with code STRICTLY Follow me! Instagram  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/strictanonymous/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ X  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/strictanonymous?lang=en⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Website  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.strictlyanonymouspodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Everything else: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/Strictlyanonymouspodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:22 All of the links to everything that I talked about are in the description. But anyway, today I have on Jesse. Jesse's a first. Okay, it's hard to find first on my show because I've been podcasting for 12 years now, I think. Jesse is a hoser. He didn't realize he was into wearing hose as a hoser until way later in life. And how he found out was super interesting because it involves a really effing hot girl. He talks about that whole story. But here's a guy that currently is camming in hose, okay, for guys and girls. And he sometimes cams with girls and couples. And he talks all about it. His whole story is super interesting. He does talk. about how he had slight interest in hose when he was little, never wore them until he met the super hot girl. She was definitely a female hoser. I mean, we don't hear about girls like this girl that he dated very often. And he talks about how she got him into it and then all the crazy,
Starting point is 00:03:10 kinky things that they did together, what they were into. And then he talks about how that eventually led him to going on campsites to see girls on there. And then eventually he got into camming himself in hose, okay? And he loves it. He's like a fully tattooed guy he was talking about like a biker guy and then he also wears hose and he's on there doing it and you could check him out he gives all his shoutouts to his cams and where he cams and everything he does this for fun he's a super interesting guy you're going to love his story like i said i've never had on a hoser who cams before so i'm going to get right to be right back on with jesse hey jesse welcome to the strictly anonymous podcast how are you today i'm great thank you
Starting point is 00:03:55 Jesse, I feel like I've never talking to a guy cam model before. That's what you are. You do caming. You're a guy and you cam. You're a cam model, but you're a dude. I feel like I've done women who were a cam models, but never a guy. Yeah, there's a lot of guys out there. It started up as a fun thing and ended up being something that it is now.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Okay. First, let me get a assumption of who you are, how old you are, what's your status relationship-wise? What's your deal currently? so right now I'm 48 years old you sound younger yeah well I'm totally I look like I'm 38 so yeah and you might
Starting point is 00:04:33 act it too it's probably worse than that I'm I'm divorced I've been divorced for a long time I'm single a lot of friends but everything's on the open everybody knows what the deal is like okay we'll get to that part yeah we'll get to that part of the story but so you're single guy now
Starting point is 00:04:51 how many years have you been camming actually it's only about maybe a little over a year. Okay, cool. So you started this after your divorce. Tell me a little bit about your marriage. How old were you when you got married? How long did it last?
Starting point is 00:05:03 And why did you get divorced? So I was 21. She was 17. Oh, my God. Are you allowed to get married at 17? No, no. We were not. That's when we first met.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So we have like a 10-year relationship. I think we got married. I think we were about, I was 33. She might have been like 28. Oh, wow. You waited a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we just, I never really wanted to be married.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And I should have never got married. It was one of those things that you did because you thought that's what you should be doing next. You know, it was kind of one of those, this is what we should be doing. Buying a house, getting married, you know, and that's, didn't work out to be the way it ended. How long did you last after you were married? So we got married. I would say we were married for about four years, but we had a kid together. And we had the, the kid was, she was about, I'd say, like, two years old.
Starting point is 00:05:55 we got separated. That's kind of what did the whole thing in, thinking that was probably going to fix it. Oh, no, that'll ruin it even more. Kids are hard work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It doesn't help a relationship. Exactly. And to be honest with you, like she had been on birth control since she was like 14. Mm-hmm. Me, I mean, I've,
Starting point is 00:06:13 you know, I'm a party. I drink. I party. I do shit you shouldn't be doing. And, you know, I always thought it would just take me,
Starting point is 00:06:21 it would just be hard for me to get somebody pregnant. I hadn't, believe it or not, I had never got. gotten anybody pregnant, not even a close call, as far as I know. And first shot pregnant. First shot when she went off the pill. I mean, she did go off the pill.
Starting point is 00:06:34 You guys were trying to get pregnant? Yeah, that was like the point because the relationship was starting to fall apart. And you thought, oh, let's have a baby. I'm not, yeah, I'm not so sure that I thought, but again, you know, I'm just trying to be a nice guy, give everybody what they want. I think a lot of me was just, was afraid to fail. Like, the whole thing was I just didn't want to be a failure. Like, I didn't want a failed marriage more than.
Starting point is 00:06:55 anything but oh yeah it is what it is yeah everyone read that fucking book and everyone buys into it and everyone has to do it and divorce is seen as like this huge failure and everyone has to have all those things it's it's sad because it's you know first of all you guys were together a really long time so your relationship by no means was a failure you don't mean like it lasted a very long time through your 20s you're like 18 different people I always say like I was like an amoe when I was 20 you're not fully formed yet so the fact that you guys you know you married super young the you know the chance of you getting older and staying on the same path
Starting point is 00:07:27 your whole life is not that high. Some people do it, but it's not for everybody and that's okay. I mean, you lasted a really long time and I'm sure when you look back at that your daughter, like you feel like oh, you couldn't imagine your life without her. So yeah, maybe that was like the catalyst that broke you up but like, you know, you have your daughter
Starting point is 00:07:43 now, right? And it's so many years later, I'm sure you're both happier elsewhere. Well, and it's funny how you mentioned that because come to find out I didn't know who I was and I wasn't at all who I am now until I was probably 30. Like I had no like through my 40s. And the other side of it is she's exactly the same person.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And what she has now, the husband she has now and everything else is the exact lifestyle that she wanted and she deserves that I just, I wasn't going to give her. It just wasn't my kind of lifestyle. So it worked out good. And we get along great. I mean, we drove the divorce together. We co-parent awesome. Never any arguments. No drama whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. That's amazing. So I'm very fortunate to have that, you know. So now, okay, so you guys get divorced. Now, have you had long to any kind of long-term relationship since her? Not quite that long. I've been in, so the girl that I dated, like, right after, almost like, while we were, like, legally separate, I started seeing this girl. She was younger.
Starting point is 00:08:45 She was in her early 20s, and I was, you know, obviously in my mid-30s. And I don't know if this is what you want to jump into it, but she's actually the one that, like my, the whole panty hose and nylon thing, like, jumps out of it. I always had it, but she jumps out of it. Oh, you're a hoser, too? Are you doing, are you doing camming for hosers? I forgot about that. Oh, my whole can is based on.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Oh, God. Oh, my God. I'm obsessed with the story. Now I remember it. Okay, this is awesome. Okay, great. All right, killer. So, yeah, let's jump into it.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Can you believe? So, I mean, I never thought, I mean, there's women, too, not just men, too. that like that and you know i'm not like a big fat guy i don't know but i'm not all jacked diesel and the fact that some of these people pay me to put on painos and change the colors and and talk about it with that it it blows my mind which which uh like that's why i think a lot of come back to me because i'm authentic because i am into it is my fetish i do love it you know the only thing that's a little bit different is i think i always did kind of have it yeah that's what i was going to say like i mean you need to go back then before your wife and talk about any kind of
Starting point is 00:09:53 signs that you were into it? I don't know if it's something I just, I kind of block out or something, but like my mother was a banker. She was always in the bank. She always wore nylons and stuff. So maybe that's where it started. But I was, I was never one of these guys. I would never even think want to.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Even as a child, it was in my mind was gross to put my mom's nylon on it. I would never. Okay. The worst I ever did was one time I have a sister that's four years older to me. And I put on a pair of hers. But even then, I didn't even put the whole pair on. I put on, like, one leg like it was like a stocking. Okay, but you do have that memory of doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:30 That says something. Right. But I just, I don't, I can't say, like, I was a kid out, like, like, wanted to touch, like, women's legs. I don't know where it really kind of started. But I'm sure I have some of this you with my mother wearing them or something. I don't know. But the whole thing with me, the one time I did that with my sisters and it backfired was, so my sister's been with the same guy since she was 15 years old.
Starting point is 00:10:51 She's married to them. They never not been together. Yeah. When I went in the drawer to get them, there were a pair white pantos. I found a whole stack of Polaroids of him and her doing things. I never would want to see my sister do. Oh, my God. I've known him since I was 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Oh, my God. I can't believe I just saw it. To this mind, I can remember those pictures like, oh, my God, it was so awful. Yeah. So that was a good booby trap for me not to go through her shit anymore. I can tell you that. you know so I was I think I was maybe when I was younger I was a little bit like kind of like off to admit that like I like panio so I always had stuff with the stockings so even before my wife was my wife when we first had been you know I was never scared to be like you know I like Nileons I like this but it was always a little when I was young it was a little pot of me to be like oh I like canyos because I think has like that grandma thing like and you know I've heard a lot of your podcast and I feel like I wasted a lot of things I don't think many of those girls would have cared.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I think if I liked it, they would have liked it just because I liked it. Exactly. And we're talking about a long time ago when people were still wearing, right? I mean, it would have been so, like, out of the blue. Yeah, I wasn't so much like the 80s, you know, because I was really young in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So I graduated high school in 97. Oh, okay. You're like 10 years. Yeah, okay. So I figured that, like, the first time, like, I really, I think maybe a girl was high school, like right at the end of high school, the girlfriend I was kind of went in high school.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I think she did it a few times for me. but I think back that I was more interested to blow loads on her face and stuff like that like that nylon like that was all new to be you know I want to do like a pawn thing and then once that stuff kind of got old to me but my wife when she was my girlfriend definitely 100% because she went to her
Starting point is 00:12:38 she went to a Catholic school or private Catholic school so every time she came over she had skirts either it was tights or thigh highs because at the time that was like that Britney Spears thing thigh hikes were in. So, I mean, I remember, I think the first time I saw her, she had, like, right over the knee, like, not sheer, but not quite tight material, uh, knee eye, like over the knee thigh high things in a, in a check in, like, just like what you would picture it, because she went
Starting point is 00:13:04 to a half at school and she had that same ghetto. So it wasn't a hard thing for me to get into with her. And, you know, she always enjoyed it. But again, she was always a pleasing to. She, if I liked it, she liked it, I mean, we used to have some fun. There's actually a burnt CD of some pictures of me and her that are so raunchy that and I don't know where that thing is. I don't show up somewhere. I'm like, thinking back at it now, I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:30 she looked like a little kid. She was 17. I was 21. Oh, my God. It's like, whatever, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. But you would, you knew by that time that you liked women in hosed. Did you think it was a fetish? You know, like I, like I said, I've listened to a lot of your podcast and it was definitely the feel.
Starting point is 00:13:49 the texture, the look of it, you know, like if my girl or somebody who was with had them on, my hand would be on you like the whole time, no matter whether it was Thanksgiving dinner or whatever. Like, I would, I would attract it to that. Okay. That's interesting. And at this point in my life, I wasn't at the wearing or anything. I did it that one thing, I think that maybe that one time in that whole thing with my system. So basically, like, I mean, it was a few in between. So I used to own a bar. And this was like as I was married, divorced. And it was. And it was. And it was a local bar.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I'm a local guy. And it was like, I mean, I had the pick of the litter. I mean, I, I, I. Yeah, really wants to bang the bar owners. You know what I mean? They always get all the checks. And it's crazy because I don't even, I never really even understood it. Like, I mean, it was, it was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And it got to a point. It's called free drinks. It's called free drinks and power. Yeah, but I, I'm not even late. I wouldn't give free drinks. I just think it's because everybody knew me, I was popular. I'm a motorcyclist. So I've always had motorcycles and, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:52 where I'm out. That's a big truck women. Yeah, of course. I'm fully tattooed. I'm that guy. And at that time, you know, everybody used to call me on. They used to say,
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Starting point is 00:17:13 tattooed from the hands down to my. to my, you know, I'm, yeah, that's hot too. I'm that guy. And at that time, you know, everybody used to call me, they used to say I looked at Kobe from Sons of Anarchy back then. I get it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's what I was, yeah. So when I started, I met this girl in, in my bar. She started coming in. And she was younger. So I was in my mid-30s, and she was like 24. Mm-hmm. And she, and she was a knockout. She was like, she's a volleyball.
Starting point is 00:17:45 place she's like 5-11 beautiful her she still is to this day and uh when we saw like you know messing around like we weren't together together i had mentioned something about wearing stockings so i and that was another thing i would say so i leave it open so in my mind if i say or i'd say nylons or stockings that i would never say panty hose or five eyes so that we kind of leave that window open so i could be like well you know i kind of like the ones that go all the way up you out because if I felt comfortable and I'm a good people reader and if I felt comfortable I felt like I was like in a situation where it isn't going to backfying this girl I'm going to go tell all our friends like well this this fucking guy who wants me with granny canyals I would definitely
Starting point is 00:18:25 capitalize on but if I had that feeling like this person is going to blow my spot up just to you know be whatever and I would you wouldn't you know so this girl like I it just worked out But at the time, I didn't know much about her. So once I said one thing about it, like I like it, and she started to wear it all the time. And it was not a popular thing. Like, she would have like these short shorts on and she had the longest legs you can imagine. And she had like black shan nylons underneath them.
Starting point is 00:18:55 And I mean, it wasn't something you saw a lot at this point at this day and age, you know, like especially a girl her age. But she was so gorgeous and she pulled it off. Not one person ever was like, why can't wear it in Ireland? I almost kind of think she brought that trend kind of back to her her area like people see her around him. Yeah, I mean, if she's the hot girl,
Starting point is 00:19:17 you got to understand like girls, like I always make a joke like you know when you look at as a girl, not when guys look at you because they'll look at you no matter what, it's when girls look at you. Girls always check out other girls. And if like a girl is really pretty and has good style, they are going to check her out and follow her and do like her. Like,
Starting point is 00:19:31 that's how girls are. We look to other girls for that kind of information. So she could have got those girls. to have for sure. Oh, I definitely saw a lot of these other girls that I knew son to wear them after her for sure. There you go. They know a lot of times she was wearing it for me, but later on to find out that it wasn't, it was the other way around. She thought I thought she would be weird. So once she figured out that I was into it,
Starting point is 00:19:57 she came right out of her show because she was just concerned that I would think it was weird thing. So obviously it wasn't. So I At this point here, now, at the back of my bar, I have a case of, like, legs, what was it? Was it? Legs panty holes, like a case of all different colors and styles that I just bought. So, like, if she was there, like, at the end of the night, we'd be in my back office and she'd open the box and which ones you want tonight. And she would start cutting, like, a whole lot of the cross putting on, like, a pair as a shirt. Wow.
Starting point is 00:20:30 She got really into it. Really into it, really into it. Like, I mean, we started by, like, DVDs. at time of his DVD. She's like buying like nylon fetish DVDs and she was a party too. We were, you know, we party pretty hard, pretty late. Sometimes you know, beyond the next day and
Starting point is 00:20:47 it started maybe like six months into it. A ton of like we're having sex, we're ton of nylon sex, panty holes, whatever. And we're at her place one night and she was like she's like, I know you want to try them on and I was like, oh do I and she's like, I, you love them just as much to me. I know you do. I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:06 And I really didn't. And not that I didn't want to, but I was like, if she gets mad at me or something, she's going to stop telling everybody I know that I'm putting on pantios and shit. So that went on, that went on for like a few months. And if I were like messed up one, you know, when you're that messed up, you don't, you throw caution to the wind. And finally, I was just like, fine, fine, I'll try it on. It was the first time that I can remember that I put on a full pair of, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:35 of a sheer pair of nylons. And you had sex in it, like, just a little hole in the front, ripped in the front, same thing with hers. And I was hooked after that. Like, I could not stop thinking about wearing tannial, being around. Like, I don't know what that untrugured in me. But it's been that way ever since.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Wow. She, I mean, she is like a hoser dream. Like, I mean, this girl, this sounds like a porn for a hoser. You know what I mean? The fact that she turned you onto this, got you went to wearing your first one and you were hooked
Starting point is 00:22:06 and she was hot on top of that. Oh my god I mean I could picture her right now like just just doing it and it's like anybody that's in the pantyos like she could have been a nylon model
Starting point is 00:22:18 so she should have been but she was a lot like me she liked the party and stuff so I mean it was like it was I mean from there out there I don't even remember if we even had sex without wearing pannios after that
Starting point is 00:22:27 wow interesting how long did you date her for? I'd say almost I'd say it's almost six seven years. Wow, that was a long time. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was a long time. And I mean, in my mind, she's the, she's the one that got away. I messed it up. That was the one that I was probably meant to stay with. How'd you mess it up? I didn't get divorced fast enough. I just let it linger. And, you know, I was separated, but I wasn't divorced. And, you know, I was, and she just, I think I
Starting point is 00:22:59 let it go so long because me and my ex got along so well. And she wasn't pressure me. You know, everything all the finances were done and we just hadn't done it yet you know not because we didn't want enough and just you know what did she want to get married is that why she cared about the actual paper divorce no we live in like a pretty area where everybody knows your shit and she was sick of being the other girl and then a lot of people gave her shit you know why was separated they're you know people thought she was why i got the war like it was a bad situation for her and if i would just came clean and just said listen I'm getting divorced and doing the right thing well
Starting point is 00:23:35 I don't know I mean I would think it might have worked out but it definitely did it because of that and I think I waited so long that she was at the point where she just didn't think I would ever do she'd you're going to go back to her again you're not going to do it oh so that's what she had every right to feel that way yeah she had a right to feel a lot of different ways she had the pressure from people she also felt like it was you were too
Starting point is 00:23:55 attached to her it was kind of like saying something maybe a little bit deeper like why won't you just cut that fucking cord you know what I mean that's how women think. We dig deep. We think, we think like that. You know what I mean? I get why she's... And the worst part about it is, I think it was not even thinking deep or anything like that. It was,
Starting point is 00:24:11 I think it was more laziness. No, on you. No, you were lazy. I'm saying she was thinking, she was putting more to it. Because that's not what it was. You didn't, it wasn't because you still were attached to her or wanted to go back from her. But a woman will think
Starting point is 00:24:27 those kinds of things. You know what I mean? We'll think, we'll put like, you know, psychological feelings and into something, and sometimes it's nothing. Most of the time, what guys it is in that deep, you know, it wasn't, but I could see why she would think that, you know what I mean? And me being a smart guy, like, I'm not stupid. Like, I knew that's what was happening. And instead of just taking a shit and get off the pot, I just let it linger and linger
Starting point is 00:24:51 and linger. And so the whole thing ended on a thing that, you know, she obviously, in her mind, thought that I was not going to leave her and instead of what she had every right to think of. It had nothing to do with it. So I basically caused the whole issue for nothing. Yeah, and the truth is, no offense. And I'm going to move on because this isn't about, like, you know, marriage and divorce. But the truth is you had left her.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I mean, how did you not leave her? The truth is you were fully 100% not with that woman anymore. It was just a piece of paper by law. But you were moved out. You were living, you know what I mean? Like, you had left her. Like, you weren't with her anymore. I was practically living with her.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Exactly. So you weren't with her, but, you know, people were probably in her ear about that shit. It's so stupid. And, you know, unfortunately that got messed up. And maybe she looks back and like you're the one that got away too because it was a dumb thing. Because it sounds like you guys, everything else was kind of great in your relationship. It was just this one thing. It was.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And she is actually like that. She got married to a guy that doesn't drink, doesn't always help out. And she told me herself that she played the safe con and she's not really that happy. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, exactly. Sad. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So she got you into this. whole thing. How does it become like a cam thing? I don't know. I mean, does it go from her leaving to you going online? I mean, how does, where's the jump? Tell me the progression. I think I think we broke up in 2012.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Oh, okay. So it was a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So it was a long time ago. So, but the whole pantyhoes nylon thing never stopped. I think pretty much every girl I've been with whether it was short term, sometimes even just like kind of like a fling. I've gotten them to wear pantingos most of the time, if not, definitely like stockies or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But I can't even remember one that I haven't gotten to wear panty holes with. And if I didn't, it was because I wasn't interested in having them do it. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. Uh-huh. That's cool. Yeah. You know, I hear you say it all the time where you're like, you know, if you just be honest with a girl,
Starting point is 00:26:53 odds are, she's not going to think it's a big deal. Because I used to be one of those guys that wouldn't say it because I thought it would be weird. And it never has been. I think there was one, one girl that was like, yeah, I'm not wearing that, but I'll definitely wear a stocking spoiler. And, you know, I, and I wasn't wearing it for a long time, long enough to even really care what her training of fault was with that. Okay. Go on. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So, I mean, you want to go back to me or her partying and having sex and nylon stuff? I mean, you can tell more stuff if you want to give some hot stories that you think Hoosers would like about you and that girl. I don't know. Or we could get to the camming part of things. So the one thing I will tell you is I've heard a lot of you I've heard all your podcast, especially about the panels and stuff. Yeah. Every one, you've always heard something like, oh my God, I never knew they did that or, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:41 whatever I, something new. Yes. Everything that you've, that you've heard and you're like, well, I didn't know people did that. Yeah. Me and her did. Like we would have penetration through nylons inside her, inside me. Wow. We'd shower together.
Starting point is 00:27:56 With nylons on? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember hearing that for the first time recently or in one. You probably heard that episode. I've never heard it since, but now I heard it again. Yeah, it's actually, it's actually really fun to do it. Why?
Starting point is 00:28:11 What about it is like hot? Like, what is it? The feeling? Like, what is it? How could you explain what's so great about it? So just the panos being dry is already like kind of like a second skin. You know, it's tight, whatever it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And then when they get wet, they still stay where they are, but they get even like tight it to you and you get smoother and it's just something about it. Interesting. So it changes them a bit, obviously. It turns something that's already awesome into something not better, but different. It's still awesome. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And any girl that I've turned them onto with that, they've loved it. I'd one be like, this is not enough. They've all loved it. Oh my God. That's so funny. So you've had other girls that wear for you and like, you're like, let's go in, dressed up in pantyhose together in a shower. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Wow, interesting. Did you ever do it alone? Oh, yeah, all the time. Oh, okay. So once you started wearing, you didn't stop. It wasn't just with her. Nope, nope. I've never stopped since.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And I was so, I for her tooth and nail, not to do it, too. That was the funny thing just because maybe it just wasn't secure with myself. I should. I'm not sure, but. Well, it is kind of opening up, can of worms, you know what I mean? Maybe you had a fear of like what would that, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:31 maybe subconsciously you knew that you'd become obsessed. Well, I think I was more worried that like me and her would break up and she'd go around and be like, this kid fucking. That makes sense. Yeah, that makes sense. And, you know, she never did because she could have. Yeah. She never did. And none of the other ones have either. That's the funny thing, you know. Yeah. And especially because here you were, that funny. No, but what's interesting is like here you are this like super tatted up dude that rides motorcycles
Starting point is 00:30:03 owns a bar, you know what I mean, and you're wearing panty hose and the girls are just cool with it. Like I mean, I love that that's the story because it really goes to show that other guys could say the same thing. Like you know what I mean? The women didn't think any differently of you, right? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It's definitely not like I, like, to not be like on a feminine side, you know? I mean, I do like the way to feel, to be honest with you, You know, it's hard for me to feel sexy, and they do make me feel sexy. You know, when I look at myself at them, I know I'm not, but I feel sexy. And, you know, the part of me being like a bigger tattooed biker guy is one of the big reasons why I do well with the candy. Because I can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'm not a big guy and I'm in cannyos. Yeah, I could imagine. It's such an extreme, like, two different things together at the same time, which I love. You know what I mean? It's kind of like, who would have guessed, right? here's all this tatted guy out with these panty hose on. It's crazy. I never would have thought people would like to see someone like me in that.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I came with a few girls here and they're like something I know anymore. And if I go on the camp with them, a lot of these like guys and people I know, they'll be like, all right, see you next time. They don't even want to see me with a girl. They just want to see me. Wow. Okay, guys, I have the best product to tell you about. and it's called Load Boost by VB Health.
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Starting point is 00:33:03 I came with a few girls here and they're like, you know, something I know anymore. And if I go on the camp with them, a lot of these like guys and people I know, they'll be like, all right, see you next time. They don't even want to see me with a girl. They just want to see me. Wow. Okay, let's get to the point where you decide. I mean, there's no anything else, Kinky, that you did with her that I never heard before, or you've just done everything? Do you ever do two girls in pantyhoes, a threesome with her? I just heard that one. I don't think I aired it yet. Not with her, but I have. With other girls. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Do you still hold that bar? No, no, I sold that. I sold that 2016. Okay. Okay. So go on. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:45 One of the other things she was into, which isn't really my thing, as I, she would, she would pee through them, but she would, like, lay on her back and, like, pee into, like, it was like a standard of shower. Interesting. I mean, it looked cool, but it's not really, like, pee and something like that's not my thing. But it was her thing. Yeah, not to pee on me, obviously, but she just liked the feeling of peeing through the panty hose. Interesting. Did you ever question her about, like, her pass with panty hose?
Starting point is 00:34:15 little? No, not really. To be honest with you. Yeah. The only thing she had ever said about her past was I remember her bringing something up about taking her mother's panty hose and her mom would get pissed at. Be like, get your own hose like her mother thought it was gross that something else would be wearing her panty hose.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Yeah. And she would laugh about it. She'd be like, oh yeah, my mom would doubt me all the time. Get your own hose. That's what she would say. So she was stealing them when she was little. Like all my other hose was so interesting. I wish I could talk to that girl.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so let's get to, how do you get into camming? Okay, so this is going a little bit forward now. This is a big gap, and this is because it's about two years ago. I was, so I was in between girls. I didn't have like a girlfriend. I wasn't seeing anybody really, you know, hanging out.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And I met this girl on a site called ManyVids. Yeah, I've heard of that. Yeah. And I don't know how I got on to that. I said, but I met this girl from Columbia. Her name was Molina. And she, far as I could tell, she was the only one on this whole entire camming site that did the Pannios thing. Wait, how did you meet her?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Oh, did you, but why are you on there looking for her? Like, you know, how does that even come in? All right. So, like, you know, between all the, like, the sex I'd have at the bar and all that stuff, like I've had a lot of sex. I've done a lot of stuff. And I think it's getting boring. And porn got boring to me.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And like somebody had mentioned something about like, I didn't even know anything about like webcaming and live canning. But I one day I just checked it out because I was just sick and looking at porn or whatever. And I came across this one. I don't remember how I did. And I was searching. I was like panty holes, models, whatever. And she was the only one that popped up.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And she was beautiful. She was from Columbia. Okay. That makes sense. So you're looking for women wearing hose on cams, just for your own pure porn. enjoyment kind of thing. Yeah, because I'm sick like the,
Starting point is 00:36:18 like the regular video, you know. Yeah, of course. It was something different, you know, seeing what it was. And I mean, fortunate for me, I think I got on to the right one with the right girl because that's how
Starting point is 00:36:28 it started because this this girl, like the first time I went on there said Pinyas, but she didn't have any on. So we started talking. And I was only joking when I was like, she was like, you want me to put a pair of like black share ones on? I said, yeah, I said, so we can match. Because that's why I have a
Starting point is 00:36:44 And I really didn't. I just said it. And she's like, you have painingos on her anymore? I said, yeah. She was, I got to see,
Starting point is 00:36:50 but at the time I don't have a camera to have all that set up. So she's like, I want to pick you. So now she's like, she's into it. So she went, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:36:58 oh my God, I don't even have any on. Like, I don't even have any or whatever. Yeah. So that's fall, we ended up, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:04 now, now I go on. She wears the paningos and that. Like, I mean, they're from Columbia. So like, $80,
Starting point is 00:37:09 like, 15,000 tokens. And that gets you pretty far, right? Yeah. So I would, you know, she was always on all the time. So I'd go on with her and she would close the room down for me. And she would, she'd do whatever I wanted. And I ended up buying a camera because she was like, I wanted, it's called, it's called
Starting point is 00:37:28 C to C camera to camera. Mm-hmm. So, so she, so I either bought anyone because she wanted to see, see me. And we did that for like quite a few months to the point where we started getting pretty You tell you, she might have been trying to use me to get to the United States. I don't know, but it didn't matter to me. I'm not stupid. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah. And it got to a point where she'd be, after she was done cammy, if she had like a bad night where it just was slow, she'd end early, she would, uh, telegram, you know, telegram. Mm-hmm. And she'd be like, hey, listen, I'm done for the night. Do you want to Skype? So now it doesn't cost anything. So we, I would, you know, Skype her.
Starting point is 00:38:04 She'd see me, I'd see her. I mean, we'd go for, like, hours she, like, just do whatever, like, like, anything you want like and that kind of relationship developed and uh that's how the bug started with me because now like me i kind of like that someone's watching me do this but i feel like there's a jump between watching her and you doing it yourself but it was that you like you liked her watching you like was she also seeing you or no you were just seeing her yeah no she could she could see me where she was a view of my camera how's you oh okay when you go into the private rooms that's what happens well yeah exactly in the priority you can but at this point here we're not even on the website
Starting point is 00:38:42 anymore we're just skyping right okay okay yeah yeah because we kind of like like each other yeah and like she she's controlling one of my toys i'm controlling her toy doing whatever like i mean it was just like a game on kind of thing but to be honest with you i don't know if it was so much that i like that she was watching me so you can see yourself in like the small screen yeah and it's not that i like to watch myself but i was like this is fun Like, like, I see what I'm doing where I feel like normally I wouldn't want someone to see me do this, but now I'm kind of like into that someone's seeing me do it. You know what is that? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:17 The opposite, exhibitionists. A lot of people have that kink. And they don't know until it like, you know, they're in the position and then they realize that turns them on. You know what I mean? So from there, from there, she kind of taught me like the whole thing and not. From there, I kind of went off on my own. I went on Chatterbait.com. It's a super popular one.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Yeah, I've heard of that one. It's advertised on all the points. That's why it's, to me, it's a shittier one, but it's a busier one. I started an account. Wait, so at this point, because you know that you like people watching, you think I'm going to go on there as a guy wearing panty hose and see what I could do. And when I first started doing it, it was just broadcasting yourself. You're not even making any money.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Right. People just build a view. Because you're going to set up bank accounts and you're going to prove the United Sex Tra. Like when you're trying to make money, there's a lot too. There's a lot of paperwork and shit you're going to do. It's not just, I'm going to sign up and go for it. Right. So you get on there and you're just letting people watch you.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Now, could you see if you, like, there are men or women watching you? You can see because you can see their icon will, like, on the side of that name will be a guy or be a girl. And if it's like, I think if it's green, that that's a transgender person. Right. Okay. Cool. But a lot of times you don't even know. like a lot of people, I know for a fact,
Starting point is 00:40:35 a lot of these women that are talking to me, I know that guy. Yeah, yeah, of course. But whatever, you know, that's the other thing of it too, is that, that doesn't bother me. Like, if a guy thinks up attractive and, and revive me, like, getting along the side, I can talk
Starting point is 00:40:49 to anybody. I can, you know, everything's cool. It doesn't bother me. If I turn a guy on and he's at his house and he's getting off by watching me, I think it's a compliment, you know? Yeah, yeah, I love that. You're not, like, phobic about it or any shit like that. You don't care. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Yeah. And, you know, I get asked a lot of time, especially either by like Panyos King and stuff, and a lot of people like, oh, you buy you guys. And I tell them flat all, I'm not either. I don't put any label on myself. If I'm in a situation and it feels right in the attraction that there, then I have no boundaries. I'll do whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:25 But I'm also one of those kind of guys that if I have to be attracted, I have to be into you or it's not going to happen. girl got whatever trans like if i'm not attracted to you i've been that way since i was a kid like if i my friends would would have sex and pay any girl that they could if i wasn't physically attract to you i had no interest in it whatsoever it didn't matter and you know that's always continued with me so i mean so go back to the webcam thing so i i did it for like the free thing for a while and and mainly it was like me going into rooms of models and and that's a So not like I was doing, you know, all the people are watching me.
Starting point is 00:42:06 And my room started getting so busy that a lot of people would be like, how come I can't tip you? They didn't understand. I'm like, oh, because I'm not set up as a model. So there was a lot of people that are like, well, you should. You know, there's not a lot of people doing what you do. You kind of have your own little thing. Yes, Mark.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And right around that time, I met another Colombian couple. It's a husband and wife. And I don't even know how I stumbled across it, but they both are at the Panios. they both wear he wears she wears she parks him in the ass through piano like i mean everything like that i've done with with girls and so like that these this couple did does wow wow and uh i hit it off with the guy and we started talking and he taught me how to do it he taught me how to do the paperwork told me what to do this he i mean he's put me under his wing for nothing he doesn't ask for a dime i don't know why even did i'm glad that he did i've been banned like four times and he's gotten me
Starting point is 00:43:01 off the band by writing me up a whole script and just having me fill in my name in my talent, losing, he got me back on. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, that's super cool. It's great to meet somebody that's that generous.
Starting point is 00:43:13 That's just a generous person. He's cool. Yeah. And, you know, there is a skill. There is a know-how with this webcam. I think it's just, if you don't have someone teaching you, it's going to take you a long time to get, to get going to. Well, explain what you learned and, like, and stuff and how you honed your skill and,
Starting point is 00:43:31 like, you know, how you started, like how you, you know, when you started to do the pay, the, get paid for it. Were you still on chatter bait? Yeah, yeah. So I, so I signed up as a model. Mm-hmm. It's called a model. So you're going to set up a bank account, routing numbers.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Phil, it worked to make sure you are who you are. And now they're very strict on you. Like, I mean, I thought people just say the wrong thing and the whole thing gets shut down. Wow. They take forever trying to fix it. So, I mean, it's, you know, but, It's lighting. It's setting up your room,
Starting point is 00:44:03 setting up titles, the hashtag so people know what to search. And that's where all that guy kind of schooled me. It was like, don't do that. Like I ended up getting a software thing so he can take over my computer so he can go into my like profiles. And he started like doing things and fixing things.
Starting point is 00:44:21 He's going to get rid of this. This is going to screw you right here. Yeah, that's amazing. And it helped out a lot. You know what I mean? And again, it's like, sometimes it's like I was on last night and I wasn't busy at all and you know you I don't make my money off like 20,000 views. I make my money off like five, six people like there'll be 25, 30 people in the room.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But it's that five or six that just like me, connect with me like what I'm doing. Those are the people I get the money from. Yeah. Interesting. What have you learned about Hoezers? First of all, I'm assuming it's mostly men or? Do you have women on there? What's the deal?
Starting point is 00:45:03 So I definitely had women. A lot of couples. Oh, okay. Interesting. And it seems to me like all the couples, they always have a hidden agenda that are always trying to get me to meet up with them.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Oh, have you ever? Most of the one. No, no. I try to keep that life in my life separate. That's smart. You know, I, yeah, because you don't know what you're going to get. I think that's very smart.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And I'm not, like, a lot of these guys want me to fuck their wives. Yeah, of course. Yeah. And I, I won't do that. To me,
Starting point is 00:45:36 that's, that's just asking for shit. Like, even if, even if I know, like, the guys into it, like,
Starting point is 00:45:41 that's the thing. I'm just, I'm just raised the, to be a loyal guy. Like, I just, I wouldn't want to bang someone's girlfriend in front of them.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like, a wife in front of them. It's just not, not my thing. Yeah. I don't think I could. Okay. I don't even,
Starting point is 00:45:54 I mean, I would join in, like, it's sort of a reason or something like that way, he's joining in, you know, but I still would have intercourse, like, with our, like, maybe a blowjob or something like that, but. Mm-hmm. And it would definitely have to be someone that I don't really, like, consider a friend or something like that. How long do you normally, let's get specifics of, like, what you're doing on there, what guys like you to do, like, how long you stay on?
Starting point is 00:46:17 Like, walk me through your camming life and experience in, like, your sessions, your camming sessions. So it's got, it's definitely gotten crazier as a time has gone. In the beginning, it was mainly, you know, jerking off cum show, candy hose. I don't wear any other women's clothes. Like, I have, like, I have, like, some cheese rings and bonds, but they're not women. I have a lot of people asking to wear shoes and stuff. And I'm like, I'm not a cross shirt. I know maybe it might be not have to believe it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I'm not a cross dress. I only do nylons. I don't do fish nuts. I don't do anything like that. So I do get a lot of that. But a lot of, even those people are very sympathetic to it. They're like, okay, I get it, you know. And I have a lot of people that like to wear my,
Starting point is 00:46:57 have me weigh like G-strings and skirts and shoes and I have to tell them like like I'm not a cross-dress. I'm just I shouldn't do nylons. You know, like I'll do stockings like diaries, but I don't really like it. I'll do it for, you know, if someone wants me to do it and they're going to pay for it. Yeah. I will, but that's really not my thing. Like that doesn't really work for me. And not because I don't like it. It's just because I feel like it looks silly on me because I'm just a big pet food guy, but people do like it. But people do like it. They pay me for it. I'm sure there are just so many different things. What's the most common thing that you see? see that like guys are into seeing you do or asking you to do. Is there something or a couple
Starting point is 00:47:33 things? Believe it or I feel like the most popular thing that I have right now is feet. Yes, a big thing. Nylon feet. Like I have guys that will just sit there. They'll take me to a private and they just want me to keep my feet and they like to see the arch. Interesting. They know, they want me to. Yeah. Yeah. And I do not have cute feet in my opinion. I'm a construction. I'm a construction worker. I've worn work boots for the last 20 years. That's funny. That's a turnoff for a lot of these guys too. They like, like, I have one guy, he's a regular and he, I'll start off like in Piano's and did he have me put my work clothes on? Oh, interesting. My work pants, my whatever I wear for a work shirt, and I have all like fire retirement. I'm an electrician, I'm a lot of it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 So, so they, I have, like, fire hot and clothes and stuff and work boots. And he has me stopped just in nylon's and he has me put my pants on and my boots and, and sit, just sit on the couch and hang out and talk to him for a while. Then he'll be like, hey, you know, why shake your boots off? Like, you know what? And he's the nicest guy. He's, like, I feel like I'm giving him something that he's comfortable with getting it for me. And, and I think I make a lot of people comfortable because I talk.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I have conversations. I understand them, you know, and I think that's one of the reasons why I do pretty well with it is because I cater to that, you know, a lot of people on WebCame up, they're rude. They're not nice. Like, you know what I used to, you know what I used to be the viewer? Like, you know, you'd ask them something. They don't reply or they'll just like, be like, yeah, yeah, 50 tokens or whatever. Like, you know, even with me, like, I don't, sometimes I don't even have, like, a menu per se.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I do, but, like, if someone wants something, I'll be like, hey, you know what, throw me what you think it's worth. Right. Like, I'm not there to kill people. I'm not even really there to make money per se, you know. I like, when I do it with a couple, when I came with a couple, I give them like 80% or whatever we can't get in that night. And I don't get paid for like three weeks after. And I've had one night with a girl, we'd be like $6,200. You're kidding.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And the cost of like 14 hours. and I was like yeah I can't just send you that much money right now I'm going to have to you know send it until later like I never would have thought that would happen that was that was all off of honestly I think maybe like seven to 14 guys and there was like I think there was like 890 people in the room wow how many how many people in the room for to make 64 hundred so there was I think that there was 800 and changed but it was only like eight to 14 of the same two of the same 14 guys. Wow. Isn't that
Starting point is 00:50:25 crazy? Yeah, crazy. Yeah, it was nuts. Mm-hmm. It was nuts. Couples by far make the most. When I go on there with a girl or whatever, that's where you make the money. Solo, it's hit a miss.
Starting point is 00:50:40 You might do good. You might not. Luckily, like I have a pretty good, pretty big following. So typically I can usually do pretty well. And if I'm on there solo, it's usually because I'm killing time. I'm either drunk, fucked up and bored. and I don't feel like watching TV, so I'll just do that. It's fun, you know, you talk to people.
Starting point is 00:51:00 When you go, let me ask you this, sometimes when you're camming, are you seeing them too? Do you do that where they turn it on and you see them as well? Yeah, so I have a price in my menu to see to see. I think it's like 75 tokens for 10 minutes. To be honest, it's really weird. So you prefer just to be watched and not see the person? person on the other side.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah, I have no interest in watching some of these guys sitting at that computer. You really, like, some of them don't even, like, sure you that all it is, like, the cameras put it at their face and like they're up a chest and you just see that pounding away at it watching you. It's like, it always makes me have a hard time to do of what I'm doing now because I guess, you know, it's distracting is what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, I'm all for, like, I, like, if someone's such be a dick pitch and they want me to rate it.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Like, you know, like I said, I'm not gay, but I can appreciate it someone's got a good talk. Like, I know what good talk looks like. Yeah. And do a lot of guys ask you for that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Interesting. That's why my annual dick pick contests on Discord do so well. Every guy
Starting point is 00:52:11 wants to show off their dicks and want to rate it. You know, and I'm just an average guy. I have nothing to brag about or anything like that, you know, but I just feel like, I know a lot of girls and I, like, like girls that are are, like, came with me and do parties and all of like, I don't want to see you guys take.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I don't really care. Because like if I'm on, if I'm doing a couple like with a couple on me and her web camming, then I get a ton of Decrating pitch. Oh, interesting. And she plays the pilot and I'll play the punishment, oh, that's a great caucus in that but at the end of the day she's like, I don't really care, you know. She likes more, see the guys that have the small ones that want to be like made fun of, like the last year, do they want me to be million. Yeah, I get that on my show. Yeah, I get totally. What is the typical, like, do you typically when you go and turn your cam on or do you have like a bunch of different color hose to wear, do people request specifically nude most of the time? I mean, do, like, what do you typically bring to like a session that you know, so you have everything on hand?
Starting point is 00:53:13 So I usually came in my living room. I set up, I have like a big section of a couch. Okay. I have like a big, like chest. I mean, it's full of, toys, panty hose. I mean, it's full. So, typically me, I, I like, I just like black. But I get a lot of requests for nude and light brown. Yeah, that's what I would think. More than, more than any of it, which, which I don't, I don't mind it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But I can't believe how many people came you to get out of a black ones to put on new ones. I, I, I can believe it. I, yeah, I just, I mean, like I, I, I like them. I think it's cool and stuff. But when I look at the camera I have like dude worms on, you can barely tell that I have anything on.
Starting point is 00:53:56 You know, maybe they can't on their end. But like when I'm looking at my, my stream set up, it's like, I can't even tell if I'm wearing any. Wow, that's interesting. I have a pair that are like Docker brown
Starting point is 00:54:06 and those usually work better because you can see it better on the camera, I feel like. What kind of, what brands do you like? So obviously I've heard all your podcast. So, I mean, all the expensive one's a great, Wolford.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Of course. It's fantastic. But I'll tell you one thing with Wilford and what's the other one, LaBelle. Yeah. Sometimes you get it and I'll get the exact scene here, the exact brand, the same type, everything. And sometimes they don't fit me at all. And then all the time they fit me great. Oh, that's something I got to ask Robert next time, why that would happen.
Starting point is 00:54:42 That's interesting. Same company. Yeah. Same size. Same denier. Same everything? something I don't know if it's sold together tighter and it just doesn't have as much flex it's I don't know if it's just my body type or whatever but you know I don't I don't know but
Starting point is 00:54:58 but the other thing is with me too is I spend $70 on a pair of pannos and I rip them I'm not happy and I'm a big dude I'm not missing grace I'm not pulling my my foot up to my chest and put on his knees I'm sitting down and pulling my leg like yeah you know it's not I'm a big dude yeah Do they like to see you put them on? Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Take them off. Are you jerking off for them?
Starting point is 00:55:24 I'm assuming. Yeah, sometimes I do. I try to stay hard and, you know, do what I'm going to do to at least stay. You know, nobody wants to see a little flaccid dick, you know? So I, yeah. So the big thing now is right now I've been doing like a hands free comb with a, like a vibrating that's controlled by them. Oh my God. How do they get the controls? So it's called Love This and it's set up through the website.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Oh, no way. So you get this Bluetooth USB. It plugs into your computer. Yeah. And so your toy connects with that. And every time they tip you, it's the bigger the tip, the pilot vibrates. Oh, my God. Or they can pay you and you can send them a link and I'll have full control of your toy. They can do whatever they want.
Starting point is 00:56:15 That's fucking smart. That's a big thing. That's smart from Chatterbate to add. You're still on Chatterbate, correct? Shatterbate and strip chat. Okay. Those are the two that I tried all the ones out and this was never a big fan of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Okay. To do well. I have a ball. So I have all the lusches, those are the ones that go inside you like a woman who go in your vagina. It's almost like those Benoit balls kind of thing. Yeah. It stays inside you. Obviously, I don't have a vagina, so I have to put in my ass.
Starting point is 00:56:44 But I have a lot. I have, I forgot the other one's called that. The vibrated, it's like a wand. It's called a mini. Yeah. It's actually a trans girl caught me how to hands free come with that. And that's been a no brain ever since. How do you know all these other creators?
Starting point is 00:57:01 Is it just that when you're on there, everyone reaches out to each other or something? Like, how do you wind up connecting with all these other people? So there hasn't been that many. Like the trans girl that I met on their shoes, like I didn't even, when I went in the room, I didn't know she was trans. She was so cute. And then, from the way, from the way, you know, the waist down. And for whatever reason, every trans has the biggest car.
Starting point is 00:57:24 You do it's the craziest thing. It's weird. It's weird. Like, you have that, you know, that set up and you want it to become a woman. And whatever works for you. Yeah, you would have done well as a guy is what you're saying. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, crazy. I know a few of them. I mean, they like the size of your fight. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So it was this one chick. She's a Colombian chick. And it was, I think it was before, it might have been while I was webcannon, but we were just like hanging out. I was tipping or whatever. And she said to me, she said, oh, you want to see me come without my hands? And I was like, yeah, I'm curious to see how that works. And she had the toy that I have now, I got it because she showed me.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And she showed you where to put it. And she just holds it there, hold it there. And I was like, damn, I got to learn how to do this. And sometimes I wish I didn't. Why? Because it's so good. It's intensely. I don't even, I don't even know if any other ways is even fun anymore for me. That becomes a problem. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That used to be my problem with vibrators because you're like, this is not natural, but it's so great.
Starting point is 00:58:28 And then if you get used to it, then how do you get, you know, that same feeling from like a person? You know what I mean? You just can't compete. And it's true. And even ever since I started webcam, I have such a hard time coming now. And I think it's because during webcam, especially if I'm with a girl or whatever, I'm holding it back. I'm almost like, if I come, I'm not going to be that interested. Now, oh, my God, unless I use that toy, I have such a hard time with you, if I'm having sex on the cam or you're using my personal life. Which sometimes it's a good thing, but then sometimes, you know, because I'm getting older, sometimes I'm working so hard that I give up. I'm going to do it no more, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:09 So you have webcam girls. live close to you that they've come over to your house and cam with you and you fuck them on cam and blah blah blah yeah yeah i i i met the one that i haven't done with her a while i think so is going on well i think she's into some kind of roping thing like she gets roped up so i think you're kind of occupied but i met her on fat life and to be honestly she she's a she's a post-off trant which i did not know at first but i mean she's beautiful you i mean if this this this this This girl was never meant to be a man. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Like, she's not built like a man. She never could. Like, she's the tiniest little thing. And, like, and I let it be known on the webcam. Like, they know, I put it in there. But a lot of people just don't read. So she'll get, people will be like, are those, are those facts? Are those real?
Starting point is 00:59:57 And she's like, yeah, no, they're not real. And I have to look at it. They're not reading. They just think you're real woman. They don't, you know, so. And I think that really brought her out of her shell, too. Like, she thought she was going to like it. She thought she was, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:11 want to talk to people. She said, I don't want to talk. I just want to do it. Now all she does, she does all the talk. People are so nice to her and compliment her. I can't believe, like, I think it really, you know, boosted her. Yeah, interesting. How, like, in a month, how many times do you can? In a month, let's see. I'd say minimum four, max probably 10. So at least once a week, for sure, sometimes more. Usually, yeah, very suddenly I go a whole week without doing it. And the money, is it consistently around, like, decent money, or is it, like, very hit or miss? Very hit or miss?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yeah, that's not a thing. If it's so low, it's very hit and miss. I mean, last night, like, I said last night, I did it just for the fun of it, just because I was bored or whatever, you know, I need some money, but I, like, strip chat, I didn't make anything. There's dead all night, and that's usually the busy one. Oh, interesting. And then the other thing I learned, too, is, like, try to it.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Saturdays, don't even waste your time. It sucks. There's nobody on. Sunday, Monday, and Tuesdays are the busiest nights. That's when you make all your money. Oh, that's interesting. Sometimes Friday around 5 a.m. or so, if you're up that late, it'll not get busy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's interesting. And, wait, you said all your friends know that you do this? No, none of them do. Oh, okay. All your friends know about the hose. I mean, you said something about all your friends knowing and that you're out. No, didn't you say that in the beginning?
Starting point is 01:01:43 No, no, no. I mean, some of them I know about like the hose and stuff, because I don't really try to hide that or anything. But this is a secret life. Your camming is a secret life. And the only reason why it is is because I have a bunch of scumbag friends that will try to watch it and videotape it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Like, I have a couple friends that are pretty close friends. They know that I do it, but they don't know that I do it alone. And they know I do it with a couple. like with a couple of different checks. Yeah. And they beg me. They're like, dude, let me in the room, let me in the room. But I have all of, I have all of my state in the surrounding states block.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Oh, that's smart. That's smart. Yeah. I mean, if you're slick and you're smart, you can get into the room. You know, you can either leave you from those. Of course. They would have to, they would have to know what they're looking for. And the few guys that know that I do do it with, like, another girl, whatever,
Starting point is 01:02:36 they've tried to find me. And I'm like, my name has nothing to do. You'll never know, unless I tell you my account name, like my name on the account, you're not going to find it because it's not, it's not Jesse, whatever. It's, it's so obscured that unless you know that name, you'll never know. But if I, like, if I, like, I gave you my two names. If you Google those two names, you'll see me everywhere. I'm all over the fucking place.
Starting point is 01:02:59 All right. Well, let's give you a big shout out. Do you want to? Yeah, sure. Yeah, give the big shout out. And let people know, like, around the right time. for them to log in to see you? Yeah, my biggest, my week part of the whole thing is that I don't have a set schedule
Starting point is 01:03:16 because that's when you really do well, just because I just don't know where I'm going to be or what I'm going to be doing. So my chat of bait is Panyos Attic 666. Okay. And if I am on it, it'll always be like after 9 o'clock, 8.30 o'clock. And it's typically, I would say, anywhere from a Sunday night to a Thursday night. Very suddenly, you see me on there the week because it's just not, nobody there.
Starting point is 01:03:40 But if they Google Paniho's Addick 666, they're going to find links or whatever they need to find to be able to find you. And what they need to do is just click on it. And if you're online, you'll show up. And if not, you won't show up. Is that how it works? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:54 So if you, if you Google my name, you'll see videos like short clips to me, pitches, like, you know. And it'll either take you, it can take you great to chat about it or it'll be a secondary site, like a whatever. but it'll tell you like model's not live right now I think most of them will even tell you like the average
Starting point is 01:04:11 like he's usually on like two times a week around this time like they kind of average it out for you Oh interesting But you know so like when I do go like if you If someone follows me on like chat abate or strip chat When I go on there's a button that says That announced you online that anybody that follows me They'll send you out an alert to let you know like oh I'm on
Starting point is 01:04:31 And anybody who knows me knows if I'm on I'll be on for a while so even if you're not hold like if you have only like 12 o'clock you know, I'll be on. Because if you're not going to put the time in and at least like commit to a like a shift like four or five hours, you're never going to make any money.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Right. You get more found. They got it sucks. I'm going home. You won't. And that's what I tell like all the girls that I do with is you're going to be committed. Like you know,
Starting point is 01:04:55 it might be getting buses right off the rip, but it might not be. Luckily most of these girls have gotten lucky like because I have a following. And then they see her. And like I said, couples just make more money than so, especially sole men. Of course, of course, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Yeah, I had a couple on once. Go on. When I bring them on, so I have a trans girl from Columbia. She's just styling last week. And the post stop, and then I have a regular girl that come on. And they all wear pannios too. They do the same thing. They're in them, I'm in them.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Wow. So people can not only see you on there, they could see you on with girls wearing hose too. So it's like a hosier's dream. Give that shout out again. I'll put the name in the description for you. So the Chattelby one is Paney Hose Addict 666. And the strip chat one is Panny Hoose Lover 54.
Starting point is 01:05:52 If it's incorrect, just email me afterwards. You know, I'll put the names in the description. Panty Hoos what? Panty Hoos Lover 54 and Pany Hoos Addict 66666. Okay, cool. I love it. going to get a lot of people going and checking you out, by the way, for my show. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:09 It's all fun, you know, and, you know, I mean, I know we didn't touch much based on the canoes and stuff, but everything that I do is get around that, you know. No, no, no, we touched a lot on panty hose here, okay? You're fucking camming a panty hose. You're fucking a panty hose. You had a girlfriend and, I mean, we talked to all pantyos on this episode. What are you kidding? I have a pair of my work clothes right now because I came in late last night, and I was, I really
Starting point is 01:06:31 kind of didn't get off, so ony. But as they'll mention your other question. question is the brand that I like to wear when I'm especially when I can is a brand called mansy and that you get them on Amazon oh good to know manzi they're Nancy and they're they're all mansy has not a do with being a man that made for women but they're pretty durable they're like you get like a six pack for like $16 that's super soft and and you know and if if you rip them you don't want to you know pay yourself over a pot up yeah that's amazing when I can when I can when I when I rip in it by the end of the by the end of the can that they're ripped up
Starting point is 01:07:05 I got a hole where my dick is. I got a hole in the ass. You know, I'm doing something with my ass, whatever. So I don't want, I don't really wear expensive ones to candy. No,
Starting point is 01:07:14 that's actually really smart. I've got to get ripped out. No, I've never heard of that brand. I'm going to, that's like amazing, good insight. We'll probably have you back on
Starting point is 01:07:22 for maybe a Patreon only episode. You're going to get free access to my Patreon for calling in, just so you know. I mean, this episode will be on my podcast for sure. So it'll go out to my big audience. But when your episode
Starting point is 01:07:34 airs, which will probably be maybe next Friday I'll put it out on the Fetish Friday, I will send you an email and you'll get like a free year. Now I give hosers and crush hussers a free year to my Patreon and it's all extra content. I do one extra hoser
Starting point is 01:07:50 episode there a month and since I've been on Patreon for like five or six years, there's tons of exclusive episodes there that you've never heard if you want to listen to them. Then if you want to send me picks for my Patreon and my Discord, you'll also get free access to my Discord when you hang up. There's actually a contest right now, a Hose, like a man in hose contest, just waist down and it could be very X-rated because it's on my Discord. You could sign up for
Starting point is 01:08:15 that. You win, I think, 150 bucks if you win. You'll see that in my Discord. You'll get a link to that. That's private. And it's free, but it's a private link. I only give it to people who call into my show. You will get that and you could sign up for that when we get off the phone. You'll see the email from my Calumly. That'll have the free link to Discord. And then you'll get the free link to my Patreon when your episode airs probably next Friday. Send me picks if you want, though, for my Patreon. Yeah, well, what do you want for pigs? Well, it can't be anything X-rated.
Starting point is 01:08:42 So if you just have, like, picks of your legs and stuff. And then anything X-rated, you could post on Patreon and in the Hoser channel when your episode airs. That's really good because people go there to see those dirty picks. I can't put that kind of stuff on Patreon, okay? Yeah. So just legs and hose for Patreon, okay? Okay, I just want to tell you before you go that my book, it's called St.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Trically Anonymous Confession, Secret Sex Lives of Total Strangers is now available not only in paperback and e-book, but you can pre-order the audiobook. It's still not going to be out until August 25th, but you can pre-order it. The book is basically 17 different stories taken from my show. I kind of picked one story from each category that I talk about on my show. Like there's a hot wife story. There's a cuck queen story. There's a cuck story. There's a cuck story. There's a gink. There's a game. Bing, Bing, Girl's story. Like I said, 17 stories, and they're all told in the third person, and they're all true. I took the interview and rewrote it in the third person, and I wouldn't really call it like
Starting point is 01:09:46 a total erotica book. Think like Penthouse Letters. It's more direct. It's not so over the top like erotica. I don't really like that kind of vibe, right? But these are true stories, 17 of them. They're really short chapters, easy read. You could read, you know, one or one.
Starting point is 01:10:03 or two and then skip around. You could read the whole book. It's available in eback format, paperback format. And finally, the audio book is available coming out August 25th. But you could pre-order it now. And if you buy my book in any format or pre-order it, I will throw in a complimentary link to my Discord. My Discord does not disappoint. Okay. There's no way you get into my Discord any other way than getting the link from me. Okay. I give it to people who buy my book. of people in there. Everybody shares content with each other, and that's what you get to do there. You could post your own pictures and videos. There's tons of channels. We have lots of contests where you can win a lot of money. It's a super fun place to be. It's a total, strictly anonymous community,
Starting point is 01:10:48 and you will love it. I will be giving anyone who buys my book access to my Discord. It's private, like I said. All you got to do is email me a screenshot of your purchase, whether you did the audiobook, the ebook, or the paperback. Send it to me at Strictly Anonymous Podcast at gmail.com. That's Strictly Anonymous Podcasts at gmail.com. And I will send you the link to Discord. So anyway, thanks so much for tuning in. This is the Strictly Anonymous podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I can do that. All right, you're the best. Thanks so much for calling this. It was super interesting. I don't think I've ever had a guy hoser or the cams ever. Not that I don't think I know for sure. I never have. and it's always great to have something new on my show.
Starting point is 01:11:41 So thanks so much, Jesse, for calling in. It's super interesting. There's not a lot of it. There's not a lot of them all day. I think that's why I do well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got more stuff I can tell you.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So you let me know if you want to talk again. Yeah, we'll do part two. I always need exclusive stuff for my Patreon. So I'll definitely have you back on. Okay. Yeah. I'm excited to check all your sites and stuff. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:12:03 All right. Awesome. Thanks, Jesse. Thanks so much for calling. We'll talk again. Thank you. Bye. Did you come here?
Starting point is 01:12:09 looking to hear some super hot stories. Well, then I know where you can read a ton more hot stories, and that is in my book. Strictly anonymous confession, secret sex lives of total strangers. It's finally out. It's available anywhere where you buy books. The book contains 17 stories I have on my show. There's a hot wife. There's a cock. There's a bull. There's a bunch of swingers. There's a gang bang girl. There's a gilf porn star. There's a girl that fucked her best friend's mom from high school. All those stories are in the book and they're all true. Think Penhouse Forum meets my show.
Starting point is 01:12:51 That's the vibe of the book. I am giving anyone who buys my book complimentary access to my private discord, which is super fun. The only way you get in is through me. If you purchase the book, send me a pick of your screenshot. Email it to me at Strickly Anonymous podcast at gmail.com. send you a private link to my Discord. So if you want to buy the book, just go to the description and click on the link.

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