1639 - Revenge Stripping, Hooking Up w/Cassie While Diddy Watched, Penile Implants & More w/ Sharay “The Punisher” Hayes
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02:48By the way, I typically don't reach out to people to ask them to be on the show.Somebody DM me.I have to give a shout out to them on Instagram and said,oh, you need to get Sherey the Punisher Hayes on your show. And I am so glad I did because Istarted following him on Instagram. He's a guy that was involved in the whole P. Diddy, Cassie thing.He's got such an interesting effing story. He's kind of been there, done that. He's going to tellhis whole story. He also got a penile implant and I'm like, oh my God, we have to do a wholeepisode about that. And he's very out and proud about it. This is a guy that started out as a kindergarten
03:22teacher, okay? And then he became a stripper. And then he became a stripper. And then hehe started, you know, being a sex worker. And that's how he wound up with P. Diddy and Cassie. And thatwhole story, if you don't know the details, I don't really know the details. Okay, the details are crazy. Okay,because he had no idea who they were for a while. And you got to hear all the details about how and whyhe didn't know. And then how he found out is like a crazy story. Also, the way he startedhooking up a couples to begin with while he was like a stripper is super interesting. All of hisstories are super interesting. He's a super interesting guy.later on in his life after the ditty thing,
03:59you know, he was always having kind of some problemsperforming, quote unquote.It was a mental thing for him like it is for a lot of guysand eventually he got a peanut implant.But not before he tried like everything elseand that's what he's here to say,but he did eventually get a peanut implantand it like fucking changed his life
04:16in so many more ways than just physically.We are going to do a whole episodeabout the penile implant and everythingthat goes with that onefor our sexual health Saturday seriesbecause we just got some more of his life story.And then he talks so much about how he's helping guys.He has something called a hard reset.com where he helps guys with all kinds of tips he's got
04:36from working as an escort.He knows how Dick's work.Okay.And he knows how to help you get yours working and up to speed and all that kind of good stuff.You're going to love him.He's like hilarious to me and he's cool.And he's so super honest.And he's been there, done that, evolved and grown as a person.
04:55and now he's helping guys,and you're going to love his episodeand you're going to love himand he'll be back on to talk more aboutthe penile implant in the future.But anyway, this episode is great.So I'm going to get right tuned to be right back on bywith Shiree, the Punisher Hayes.
05:10This is the strictly anonymous podcast.Strictly anonymous podcast.Hey,Shiree, the Punisher Hayes.I like that whole name, by the way.Yeah.I'm kind of fond of it.I need to know why you're called the punisher, but we are good.
05:27People will find out because we're going to get your whole life story, but I do have to give you a shout out of how fucking funny you are.I was telling you this off air.I, you know, I don't find many people like totally fascinating and interesting, but you are.Okay, every word out of your mouth is so interesting and funny.When you do horoscopes, I was telling you offline about people like, you nail them.And I like, I like to know.I want to know what your horoscope is.I don't know.
05:51What are you?I am a cancer man.Oh, my God.So you probably have problems with Aries sometimes, you know, we got to walk on eggshells with cancer mess.I have no problem with Aries, but that's because of me.Yeah, you're right.A big part of my whole spiel with understanding women and stuff like that.Yeah.
06:14People, I go out of my way to adjust to their characteristics and I use horoscopes a lot.So I understand the Aries woman and I don't let my cancer BS.You know what I'm saying?Yeah, yeah.You know?Well, that must have come in handy, you know, in your life because of who you became andwhat you wound up doing.And what's interesting is that you like started as a kindergarten teacher, right?
06:39Absolutely, man.Absolutely.I went to high school.The whole dream was to be a teacher.Went to college for it.And actually started working in the field out of college.I didn't finish with my degree, but I left up in a private school where I could workbecause I was dealing with special needs kids.
07:01They had more than one teacher in the class.So I was kind of like the para and assistant teacher.They were putting me back to school.But then I found mail stripping and quit my job.Okay, so let's go there.How do you find as a kindergarten teacher like mail stripping?Because mail stripping then leads you to, you know, hooking up with a very famouscouple that you didn't know was so famous later on and we're going to get to there but so how did you
07:27wind up as a stripper literally heartbreak heartbreak man uh i stayed with my high school sweetheartand we were you know i was that in love young guy we're going to be married we're going to be all thatstuff she was very attractive young woman and she came home one day and said look i'm going to startworking in a strip club take you to leave it this is what i'm going to do at a heart attack tried to getto stop, but, you know, but that just wasn't a real possibility.And I might have stayed with another year or so.And she just came home one day and said, look, I'm beating all these men.I'm tired of being tied down.
08:07I want my freedom.And she dumped me.And I was completely heartbroken.Right.So like any sensible young 21-year-old male, my way of dealing with it was, I'll show her,I'm going to be a stripper too.Oh my God.You revenge stripped.
08:26Yes.And I went on this quest to become a male stripper.It's very difficult, at least at that time to get involved with it.But I left up a better guy I played basketball with.And I made some terrible deal.I gave him my, at a time where I gave him this expensive laptop I had to just hook me up with becoming the dancing and it ended up being the best breakup and the best deal.made because over 30 years later here I am oh my god so wait how long did were you like a stripper slashkindergarten teacher uh for almost two years almost two years okay and so that leads you though down
09:04into other things right like you go in like i'm just going to like strip at these parties for womenbut then other opportunities arise correct so absolutely absolutely you know and so we're theother opportunities come from it's not just beinga male stripper.Right.To be a successful one,you have to market yourself.Right.
09:26Like,extensively.So I was,I was very diligent with it,man.I would go out on the,on a busy shopping areas and just hand outbusiness cards,
09:37hand out flyers,hands,I'm talking about over the years,hundreds of thousands of these things,because I started back in 1995.So it wasn't no,just jump on the internet.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:48And the hand.And,over the time with me becoming popular and being on all these advertisements of course you get the calls for the bachelorette's and the birthday parties but you're also going to get the calls that hey do you do one-on-ones hey do you do massages and you know if you read between the lines you know those are solicitations for sex work yeah oh my god and that's what you started doing right oh yeah absolutely but i wasn't completely denied i didn't even know i was doing sex work oh my god it's so funHow like, tell me like your first experience. The first, was it like a party and then you went home with somebody or was it someone that solicited you through one of your ads or whatever and you went to their house?Yeah. So, so how it began is always so women are not obvious and overt when they want to hire you for sex. Right. And it always sounds like either do you do one on one parties or do you do massages. So at first, you know, being young and, you know,And really, my mindset was never going to be, I'm going to be a male escort.Right.It was just, I'm a male stripper and I get perks.
10:58Right.Right.So I would start to accept these one-on-one parties that was like 2% dancing, 90% sex, you know?Yeah.And to me, it was just, it appeared in the beginning.It just was just an opportunity where I got hired to dance and I ended up having sex and got paid for it.And I literally for years, I had no connection that I was doing prostitution.But as the calls kept coming on a regular and as the internet beat in and got bigger and then
11:31the calls started coming from husbands to do it for their wife, then I understood what was going on.Right. And now let me just tell you, I started my podcast probably about 11 or 12 years ago at this point.And, you know, I had no idea that there was this thing called hot wifing. Now it's they have terms for it andeverything, you know, but I just.never and I had a lot of guy friends and I was always very open so guys I felt like told me everything but neverdid one guy ever tell me he like wanted his girl to get fucked by somebody else you know but it turnsout that you know I found out through doing my show that this was like a major king for a lot of guys andI had no idea about it do you remember the first was the first couple the couple that we're going
12:09to talk about or was it other couples first no it was definitely other couples first and and and my firststory of it happening was really like so crazy because happened to be in in Montreal to beexact doing the show because I used to travel all over the country.I was really popular and I do the show and I'm kind of like hanging out and a guy just walksup to me and he goes, hey man, I want to hire you for my wife and I'm like hire you for yourwife okay and I'm dancing I'm thinking whatever and he's like yeah you uhYou and her had sex in St. Martin, and she said you were the best she ever had,and I want to hire you to give her a good time again. And I was like, what?
12:56Did you remember her? Because I did not.Okay.Oh, I got.But the thing was with me was the idea of a woman's husband walking up to me and casually saying,you fuck my wife in St. Martin, you know what I'm saying?Yeah, she had a great time. Let's do it again. It was like,What is going on?You know what I'm saying?
13:19Like, first of all, why is he okay with it?And why does he want it to happen again, you know?And that's where it kind of first clicked to me that this is a thing.Yeah, crazy, right?Yeah.Yeah.So, thanks.So that's when I really introduced to it.
13:36And I was so intrigued by it because the guy was just so cool with it that I started askingquestions.And I talk about this story in my book because when the guy,came and spoke to me, it was a bunch of us guys, we were all staying in a, in a hotel. And Iimmediately went back to the hotel and started bragging to my boy. He's like, you know, man,I put it down on this chick so, you know, a husband wants to hire me again. And, and when heapproached me about it, you know, she was in the area, but he just kind of pointed to her, you know,and she was very attractive, man. So I'm like bragging to my boy. It's like, yo, she's super
14:12hot, man. They're coming by to the hotel. You know, I'm telling my, you know, with me and another guy,I'm like, yo, you guys got to get out of here.To get here, I 8 o'clock, but stick around a little bit because I wanther to see her, right?You know, I'm trying to like, yo, wait until you see how hot she is.Yeah, I would imagine, yeah.And no lie, they knock on the door.I open it.
14:32I got two of my boys there.They kind of look.I feel like, oh, don't worry about my boys.They're about to leave.And the guy says, wait a second.No way.Are you guys free?Do y'all want to join in two?
14:44And I'm like, what?You know what I'm saying?Like this is the first time.That is, I'm wondering if I've ever had that guy on my show.These are the kind of people that come on my show, by the way.So he immediately just pulls us, we do like a little huddle.And he basically paid each of us 500 bucks.Wow.
15:05And was like, yo, show a good time.And he was like, I'm, he was like, I don't want, I'm not going to take part of it.It was a big enough room where it was like a double bed, a little house area.on the side. He went to sat on the couch. I'm just going to be here to make sure she's okay,but you guys do whatever you want to do, no rules, make sure she has a great time. And thetruth of the matter was, with this being my first time in a scenario like that, I couldn't evenperform. Well, that's a very common thing. That was another surprising thing to me that, like,in the lifestyle and in that world a lot of times, that does happen, right? Because you're not used to
15:38performing. It is performing. Yeah, I could not perform. And my boys, they were like,pros at this. They were like aWWF tag team.You know what I'm saying?Oh my gosh.And all these butt-naked wrestling moves of the camelclutched.You know what I'm saying?
15:57DDT.You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, these guysare fucking pros at this.And literally with menot being able to perform, I ended upjust sitting and talking to the husband.Oh, wow.And in his case, it wasn't
16:12necessarily his fetish.his reasoning for doing it was he said he was very successful him and his wife have been together for a bunch of years and he just lost he loved her she was family but he just lost attraction to her so their sex life suffered and he said to me he said listen if i let my wife just go out there and satisfy her sexual needs on her own then i risk her making a connection with a guy falling in love and now she's trying to divorce me yeahto be with him.But if I create these experiences for her,where I can control it and limit the emotional connection,I keep my marriage strong and she's happy.So he was really doing it to just serve her sexual needsand preserve the fact of not ending up in divorce court.
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18:39I haven't heard that one yet.And I like that, though.And he's smart because I've had the cuck gone wrong,lost his girl to a bull story before, you know,because a lot of times when that guy is sitting in that cuck chair long enough,or she starts playing with you solo, things do happen.So now, is that the first time that, like, you couldn't perform?Because I know eventually you get a penile implant,
19:00and I love the fact that you're so out and proud about that.And you have a whole book about that.So we're going to get into that.But, like, is that where, like, issues startedfor you?It wasn't.My issues, and you know, it, you know, obviously, like you said, we'll talk about down the line.Being a male, once you get into this escort thing, there's a tremendous amount of sexual
19:27pressure.Right.Tremendous amount.And because now you're paid to perform and you want to do the job on the level ofsupposed to. And so what I started doing at an early age, unfortunately, without needing it,is I'm popping the Viagoras, the Sealis, the all of these enhancing pills because I want to be mybest. Right. And what a lot of guys don't realize is you create a psychological dependency to thesethings. 100%. Yeah. So my ED was literally nothing wrong with me physically, but for just decades of,
20:05almost two decades of medeveloping a mental dependencyto some form of an enhancementthat's what startedgiving me the issues and my hugeissues started actually with the celebrity coupleyeah okay we'll get to that and by the wayI've had a lot of doctors on
20:23talking about erectile dysfunction and I thinkit's like 70% it's much more rarefor it to be actual physical you know a physicalthing it's the majority is mentalso you're not alone and I feel like if I wasguy because I'm like a very in my head person. I could totally see getting like locked into something ordependent and getting in that loop, right? It could happen to anybody. I admire the people that could likeknock it up a bunch of times and not give a shit and keep going on, you know, but I think a lot of guys for a lot of guys,
20:51that's what happens. And I could totally see why it would happen. Yeah, yeah. It's actually a hormonalscenario. Whenever you experience anxiety before sex, your body makes a hormone called cortisol.cortisol restricts your blood vessels.And it's really just the medication against your hormones.The medications opens your blood vessels.That's all they do, Niagara's Encelis.Yeah.Cortisol constricts it and cortisol stronger.
21:21Yeah.Well, let's get back to the couples, though.So that's your first couple.You're like, holy shit.And then like, do they pass you on to other couples?Or does you just start getting contact by couples?Because a lot of times that is what happens.Yeah.
21:33Well, so for me, I didn't really get into like a big referral type of thing.And remember, this couple lived, this couple actually lived out of the country, right?But again, because I was so widely publicized.Right.Especially when the internet came in where you could just Google, not even me, you could just Google male strippers, male entertainers, whatever.And my website will be on the first page of Google in the New York City area.You know, literally in the top three, if you use black male strippers, right?So that's where most of my leads came from.
22:07And because I got so many, it allowed me to be selective and picky.And I could, you know, get the ladies to send photos, even get the husbands to send photos.And if the woman was somebody that was attracted to, I would deal with.I would do it.Oh, interesting.So you would get the photos.They knew who you were.And like, let me ask you this.
22:27What were the demographics of the people?Was it just like across the board, every different type you would never believe like this is what these people?people were into.Across the board.Right?Isn't that interesting?Yeah.Yeah.
22:38Yeah.Like that's what I'm always saying about like my show because people are coming ontalking about like what they're doing secretly and their secret sex lives, whatever.But I'm always like they're not like, you know, they're just like anybody else.You know, probably everyone's like five person removed from like people that are into all thethings on my show.You just don't know, right?But eventually you do get like hit up by a woman.
22:59And you don't even know who it is, right?But she's probably like the hottest one you've seen.so far.Oh,Cassie.Yeah.Yeah.So,
23:06yeah.And believe it or not,that I wasn't hit up in that situation.Uh,as an escort opportunity,I was called to just be a male stripper.At least as a guest.Oh.
23:18Oh.So when she contacted you first,and it's Cassie,right?And she,when she contacts you first,it's just for you to come and dance because that's what you'readvertising as well,
23:26right?Yeah.What I was told was that it was her birthday.Yeah.Her husband said she can have a male dancer.she was at a hotel room with a few of her friends female friends and i was supposed to come do a littleshow so i walked in there 100% expecting to do a little strip tease um but you know she gave me theinformation i show up to the door and the minute it opens she's in a bathrobe
23:53you know extremely clear that she's completely naked under with a very greeting smileand come on and it was at the time the most stunning woman i ever seen him personSo aren't you like who the fuck is this?Like, do you didn't know who it was?I didn't know.So at the time, Cassie was recognizable by this very distinct hair style.Yeah.And when she opened the door, she had on a wig.
24:19And by the way, was she married to Diddy at that time?Or like it, like when she's saying my husband, like our-She was saying, there you go.So she was saying her husband, but they weren't married.Right. So that's what threw me off too because she looked slightly familiar. I couldn't put it together. And of course, the minute I walked out of there, I was on every Google search engine. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.Couples or whatever. But I kept putting in married couples.Oh, right. So that threw it out. But what throws you off about him, though? Get me into the room. So she walks out. She's like on a scale. I went to 10. She's a 17, right? Like she's like the hottest person you've ever seen. You go into the.into this room. There's no one else there. And then some guy walks into the room, but you can't see him?
25:08Yeah. So I get, I get specific instructions. She comes in and she told me that her and a husbandlike to do this kind of fantasy voyeur thing. Yeah. Where me and her, she showed me the area and I wasinstructed that we were going to put baby all over each other in a sensual massage type of way.She never mentioned sex. She never mentioned sex at all. But we were going toput massage on each other in a very sensual way, you know, and at some point,her husband was going to come into the room and watch. Now, my specific instructions were,I was not supposed to talk to him, look at him, interact in any way. I'm supposed to act likehe's not even there. Do not acknowledge him. He's just going to watch him aside. And that would be
25:57that. So they were very careful in terms of soliciting sex. So the way sex would go is we would do the babyor massage to a very hot and heavy thing. And then she would put a question to me as, do you want to finish?Oh, finish. That's the word. Yeah, do I want to finish? And that was the cue that we want it to besexually. And literally my first time doing it, she asked me that I want to finish it. I said,no. Oh. And she was cool with it. I said, no, this was for you and your husband. Yes. She justokay. No problem. Whatever, you know, here's your money. We had a great time. But, hey, is it okay if when we're intime, we call you back? Interesting. But wait, quick question. When you're in there in the husband,quote unquote, comes in, or is you're back to him and you really just can't even see him?
26:53because you're not turning around?I can't see them.Or is it so dark?It's not that it's so dark.It's candle lit in the area we are.Where he's at is dark, but it's also the positioning.Right.Because if she's on, she's in the couch in front of me, right?
27:10So wherever I'm positioned in the room, so let's say the couch is in the middle of the room.Yeah.I'm on the right side of her in a chair facing her.Yeah.And he's on the same right side as you.in the corner.So him looking forward, he sees my back.Right.
27:28And you'd have to be disobedient.You'd be breaking the rules if you turned around to look at him.I would have to completely turn around.Yeah, yeah, cool.To get him in my sight line.Right.You know, I could barely catch a glimpse out of him out of my peripheral if he gets up andhe walks back and forth.
27:44But he's really out of my side.And he's not close.He's literally, he's a big, gigantic hotel suites.Yeah.He's, what's the room?I'm talking 10 feet.11 feet, 12 feet, he's far away.Oh my God.
27:55How soon after they call you back?So this was the cool thing about it.I would only see them every maybe three or four months.Okay.But I would see them three days in a row.So if they came into town, it'll be Friday night, Saturday, night, Sunday night.You know what I'm saying?Yeah, yeah.
28:16And then not a couple of months for back in town, Friday night, Saturday,and night, Sunday night.And this went on for two and a half years.years, maybe 12 of those three-day sessions.So the first time there was no finishing, right?But did it happen the next?That first time, did they do the three-night stay or the three-day thing?Or did that happen the next time?
28:39No, no, no, no, not after the first time.Right, but the next time.It took a little bit.Yeah, the next time, then it went straight down.Okay.And so that time you go in, is it all the, was it always the same kind of exact setup?exact setup a baby oil type of massage that led to sex.And so again, she never would say 81 sex, but how I knew sex was clear the next time was she just introduced a conversation about sexual health.
29:10Okay.And I just want to let you know, I've been tested, everything's good, you know, what about you?Do you get tested on a regular?Are you clean?So, you know, you understand once a woman starts talking about, are you?you sexually safe, I'm sexually safe, you know what that means.You know what I'm saying?Yeah.
29:28Yeah.So that was kind of like, this is the expectation.And then it went to a place where it was mandatory.Oh.Oh.So the first time that you did finish, were you good to go?Were you able to perform?Was it all okay?
29:46Yes.Okay.Yes.I was able to perform.And if every,thing was pretty much fine.Oh, really?Up until I realized it was ditty.
29:59You know what I'm saying?Like the first year and a half because he was in this corner.And also, he would come out with his face covered.With what?And I think they're called hijabs.It's the same thing that Muslim women wear, where her face is completely covered.And you can only see the eyes.Oh, my God.
30:20He's in the fuckingCuck chair with aJob on his ass.Yeah,with a bottleAstrogliderigorously whacking.Right.
30:31Like,wagging that you can hear.And I can hear the whacking.Yeah,I was going to ask if you knewthat he was like in the cuck chairjerking off.So before you could turn around
30:39and look,you hear this the whole time,every time.Oh yeah, man.He was even going hard,but it was a lot.But he doesn't say one word,right?
30:49in the beat like and for a year and a half you didn't know for a year and a half i did not knowhe would now don't give me wrong he would talk but never to me okay only to her and it would bevery subtle directions and most of the directions was associated with positioning okay and lightingpositioning and lighting like move the candy to the left move your body a little bit put on moreoil, everything was about him setting a scene.You know, he was disguising his voice, clearly.And again, he had on this mass. So I had no idea. I knew he was a black male.But I could not put it together. I just couldn't put together. And how I eventually found out
31:36was never by a visual cue. Sometimes I would show up to these huge suites and they would give memy own room and just relax in here till we're ready and i would wait around a couple of hourssometimes right and just just one specific time i happened to cut on the tv and it was one of thosehotels with welcome messages okay tv said at six house would like to welcome mr shan cones and i wasno fucking wait that's how you found out were you like texting your friends like you're notgonna believe i'm sorry that at that moment because this is this is to be like three four o'clock in themorning. I always went in a wee hours of the night. But when I tell you, I was like,what in the fuck? You know what I'm saying? So a year and a half, you're fucking in front of
32:23P. Diddy. Like, that's crazy. No? I had no idea. Unbelievable. And you didn't know it washer even up to this point, right? I did not know. I stood at. I gave up. I mean, you know,after my first session or two, we're trying to figure it out. I just gave up. I was like,I don't know who this is.Oh, my God.That is crazy.So that's, oh, my God.So you go in, you know who the fuck he is at this point.
32:48But you never, they don't ever know that you know.Like, does that ever come out?Like, between the three of you?Eventually, they put it together.And I think the same night.Oh, okay.My TV with the welcome message.Yeah.
33:01I just left it there.Right?So eventually they knew that you know.But it also got to a point where they understood that I was going to respect their privacy.Mm-hmm.Mm-hmm.So you kept going back?Yeah, no, a number year.
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35:12Yeah.This just went off a two and a half years.So another year of them continuously calling me.But again, this is where my sexual issues became because I was already uncomfortablewith him being in the room.Right.And if you grew up in the Harlem, you know, black community culture, there was alwaysrumors of his sexuality.
35:35Yeah, totally.Yep.Yeah.And so now I understand this P. Diddy.I got to perform.I worry, hey, is he going to try something at some point?And what I started doing from with myself was I started over-medicating.So when they say take one C-Ailis, it's like, maybe I should take two.
35:56You know what I'm saying?Yeah, of course.I should take three.You know, so now I'm taking all this extra medication, which is just putting more pressure on me.And now I start to have issues.Oh, that's when it got worse.It didn't work as long, that's when it became an issue.So, you know, back to our earlier question you had, and I told you this situation started
36:17it, me doubling up and tripling up on pills and still having moments where it's not cooperating,it made me doubt the pills.Yeah, of course.And then where do you go?Right.That's like a scary place to be.Yeah.And there where you go.
36:35There where you go.Now I don't have complete conflict.And I'm, and mind you, this happened 2012 to 2015.So I didn't get an implant to 2022.So obviously, I went another seven years just kind of, you know, not really confident in the pills.And I do what a lot of guys do.Oh, you know, I try Viagra.I try Seattle.
36:56All right, let me try.My friend told me about this one called Honeypack.His friend told me about this other one for a trio was in.You know what I'm saying?And I'm going to all these different places getting all these different pills because of the anxiety.right and that's what you did over the seven years tried every other thing to sort of deal with thatevery other thing to try to deal with that till i was finally final boss took it out by a by a girlfriendof mine we'll get to that i just want to close the ditty story so by the way let me ask you this though
37:25as because you know like he's like sitting in the cuck chair it's always like kind of the samething did it ever progress to anything else or was it just always like vanilla sex like go in theredo the massage fucker leave like you knowDid it ever change or was it always the same?Never changed.Always with Nel sex.Right.And did you find out that they, like, were they just doing this with you?
37:48Were they doing it with other people?What was the deal with them?Because I didn't follow, by the way, I didn't follow the case.I mean, you wound up being called into court, right?I mean, you had to speak.Yeah, I testified.Yeah.But what was the deal?
38:01Do you know if they were doing this with other people as well?Were you the only one?I was absolutely not the only one.It was so many guys that it was disturbed.Yeah, because that's why I asked,because I know that there was like other kind of stuffthat was going down with her and him with guys.And when you say that you didn't do any of this other stuff,
38:21there was other things that they were doing more hardcore, right?With other dudes.Well, I mean, it depends what you consider hardcore.It's always a setting where it was,where it was him and her.and then they would hire a male escort.They did have a couple of occasions where, you know, maybe two escorts were a threesome with her.Yeah.
38:42It was at times where he would join in with the escort.Exactly.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yeah.And then also there was also waterplay, right?Yeah, yeah.Where urination, where they were feeling it.Right?
38:55So it did get to some higher level kinks.But never in my scenario.Yeah, that's why I asked.Because I remember hearing about.all those other things, you know?And I've, you know, and I've heard those stories on my show, too.So I was just wondering if that, obviously, they must have been with other people.Did you think, when you found out that there were a lot of people, you're like, what the
39:14fuck?Like, I thought I was the only one.Absolutely, man.I'm so, so special.I can imagine, of course.She's not, you know, when, when he's trying for her, you know, did he got his girls?And when it's time for her, she reaches out to me.And I was on rotation.
39:32And let me give you one thing worse about it, too.I was the guy paid the least.So I was like, I was the budget dude.No way.Wait a second.That was a question I had.How long were the sessions and how much did you get paid?And then tell me how much the other guys were getting?
39:48My sessions, I could, the sexual sessions was no more than 30, 40 minutes.Okay.But I could be there two, three hours.I told you I would be waiting around.until they were ready to start.And I would get $2,000 a pop.Okay.And how much were the other guys that you find out making?
40:10$5,000, $6,000 a pot.Yeah, yeah.You could have got that money from him.I mean, what's $2,000 to him?You know what I mean?Chum change.Yeah, no, absolutely.I think the only difference I will say with the other guys is they were staying way
40:28longer than me.So I may do three, four hours.three days in a row, which is $6,000.Yeah, not bad.These guys were doing, I was in the room with them for 36 hours, 24 hours, you know.And another difference for me is a lot of the other guys indulged in the drug use.I was never offered drugs.I never seen any drug use.
40:52So I guess it was just a different energy.Yeah, it's interesting.With me than some of these other situations.Yeah, it's interesting that they just like kind of maybe knew how far they couldgo with one person versus somebody else, right?And they could get their needs met with you in this way and maybe do some other stuffwith other guys.You must have not, like, given off the vibes that you were into anything else than what
41:12they had you doing.But they used you consistently.So obviously, you are, you know, one of their faves for sure.Now, once they knew that you knew, like, did he take off his mask and you could see himand he talked to you?Like, did you become, like, friendly with him?In the two and a half years.Yeah.
41:31never any conversation, any speaking, not even eye contact.The first time I had eye contact with him was leaving the courtroom after I testified.Right. Oh, really? That was the only time you looked in his eyes.Only time we had eye contact.What kind of contact did it give you? Because you just went on the stand and you're not in there because you're like a prostit or a sex worker, right?You're there to just sort of talk about what you guys did in that room.Yeah, so specifically the allegations against him was oh, coercion.Yeah, exactly.
42:06They were trying to say that he forced her into these sexual situations.So I was there as a person in the room to give my recount of the situation.And the eye contact was pleasant because even though I was put up there to testify for the prosecution,Yeah.My honest experience was I didn't see any coercion.Nothing seemed forced.Everything seemed consensual.And she appeared to be enjoying it.
42:37So I think when I testified just the truth, it actually favored him, right?Because that's what his defense was saying.So his eye contact with me was kind of like, you know, I won't say thank you,but it was obviously pleasant and nothing menacing and no issues because I just told the truth.Yeah, and that was your truth. Exactly. I mean, that was your truth. It's interesting, though,that the prosecution had to have talked to you beforehand. So they knew that this was your truth.It's interesting that they put you up on the stand to begin with, right?I think the reason why they put me up on the stand was there was a gray area in the testimony.
43:23where they would ask me, did she ever seem uncomfortable or off?And there was moments where she would sigh, right?But the sigh was not because of, I don't want to do this or whatever.Remember I told you he used to give us directions.Yeah, yeah, yeah.And sometimes his directions would be a little tedious.Okay, you know, they moved the right to the right.A little bit more.
43:49Yeah.A little bit more.I'm like, we're in the middle of facts.What I'm saying?It's annoying.And so she would give a sigh like,you know what I'm saying?Yeah.
44:00Like, and to me, I read it as,come on, man, we're having a good time hereand you stopping for all thesespecific things you weren't done.And so I kind of mentioned that.And, you know,somehow sighing became wincing.And when they prep me,
44:17they wanted to kind of cut and dry.Did you see her, did you hear a sigh orAnd I'm supposedly to say yes and that's that.And now that can go a bunch of ways.Totally.But on the stand, I specified.Because I didn't think that was right.You know what I'm saying?
44:34Yeah, no, that's because that's bullshit.Yeah, you're right.Yeah.And I say, yes, she sighed.Yes, there was frustration, but it was to the direction.It wasn't about what was happening.He was just moving again.Wait, wait, stop, stop.
44:49You need more oil on your arm.Like, well, oil on my arm.I'm about to put it in myOh my GodWait, wasn't there a thing where he always wanted you to finish on her?That's my last question about like the sexual stuff that happenedAnd I want to know how you guys ended, right?You had to finish on her?
45:07Yeah, so very specifically.So I would, every time I had to finish,I had to finish literally all on top of her clit,all in her, all on her vagina area.And it was a understood request that this is how it needs to finish every single time.Now, in the moment, I always found it odd because we're having sex already.All the furnaces covered in sheet.She got just bathroves, there's towels, everything in our area.
45:39But every time I would finish, she would clearly get up and walk out of the room.But you could tell she's trying to preserve my fluid on her.Oh, yeah, he's a clean-up guy, obviously.Yeah, she would walk out the room.He would immediately follow her.And she ended up testifying that when they got in the back room, she would take it and rub it on his nipples.Oh, that's what, that's what went to.I don't know all the details.
46:06She would rub them on his nipples.Interesting.Yeah.That was his thing.Yeah, I thought I heard it all.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Super interesting.How did it end with them?
46:17Like, did they break up?Did he get busted?Like, how did you stop seeing them?Because you saw them for a while.They broke up.They broke up.Okay.And then you just stopped hearing from them.
46:27I just stopped hearing from them.Yeah, but I actually think I got fired.You know, just being honest.Because one of the last times we got together.Yeah.At some time had passed, it might have been almost a year.And during that time, I had a surgery.I, like, tore my bicep, doing a move at the strip club, picking up a big girl.
46:49Oh my god hilarious.That's all my bice up picking up a big girl.So that took me out of the gym, out of working out of a lot of things.I did for months and they called me literally right after I healed.So getting there, it's been a long time.It was, I struggled with performing because it was a year.We used to have unprotected sex.Yeah, right.
47:11Eventually.So it's a year later, now it's back to condoms.Now it's, I'm not as buff and in shape or whatever.And I could kind of tellI might not have been called backbecause when she paid me,I couldn't perform.So nothing ended up happening.
47:27She ended up paying me anywayand she gave me one of those.You know what?We just want to say,thank you for,you know,respecting our privacyand never speaking of anything.
47:36You've always been professionaland this time.And I was like,this is a closing,you know,goodbye.You know what I'm saying?Yeah,
47:44I think you were getting the breakup speech.Yeah,getting the breakup speech.speech, man. So, so, and then shortly after that, they broke up. So, right. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's crazy. And then, and then it blew up to what it blew up. And then did that blow up? Is that how you blew up to? I mean, oh, let me ask you real quick, though. Were there other, like, people that you were seeing that were also, like, celebrities or, like, noteworthy people, other couples? Like, is that the, like, the world you sort of moved around in?Yeah, yeah, I mean, you run into it. I mean, ironically, he's not the only billionaire. Right. Of course. No, I know. I mean, I don't rat anybody out. My whole show is built on like everyone being anonymous. I would never ask names. But there were probably other people that hired you that were like noteworthy. Correct? That's all about asking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. People don't know. It's very common then. I know, exactly. Very common. So let's get to.to the peanut implant because that is something,you have a whole book on it, right?And does your book, like your life story
48:53plus all that? Like, is that onebook that you did or do you have two books?No, it's one book. So the book iscalled In Search ofFreezer Meat. Okay.And Freezer Meat is a punon ard meat, right?It takes some meat out of freezer. It was harder than
49:09that, right? Yeah, of course. Okay.Yeah. So, and yeah,so what I realized,and we touched on it earlier about,how erectile dysfunction is psychological for most men.That was definitely my position.But I realized that my ED had started forming for me before I even had sex.Oh, you're kidding.
49:33It was going to be inevitable.How come?Before I had sex.Because before I even had sex, there was a scenario with me and my junior high school best friend.We're 14 years old.Like normal little boys, we're lying through our teeth that were sexually experienced.We did it before.You know what I'm saying?
49:52So we're doing all this false bragging.And he got an opportunity after school session.He goes in a staircase with a little hot in the pants girl, comes back out.You know, 90 seconds later with the biggest smile he ever had.You know what I'm saying?And she walked out right behind them and just trashed them.Oh my God.It was so whack.
50:15He was done in.minutes. It was terrible. This, that never. And it was so embarrassing for him that he ended upearning a nickname through our entire school of Watt Dick Will. Oh my God. Yes, I know. Yeah.That's horrifying. And that just became who he was our whole last year of junior high.We were supposed to be the cool guys in school. Yeah. So literally a month or so later, I get mymy first opportunity with my little girlfriend.And what do I do?17 seconds.
50:52It was like I stepped on the third rail.It was electrocuted.You know what I'm saying?So all of that, all of that, you know,commensitial masturbating I did did not prepare me for the real thing.Okay. So literally,and so I remember this happened on a Friday afternoon.And I was scared to come to school that Monday.
51:14Of course.But a fear of now I'm going to be whacked a gray, right?Yeah, of course.So now luckily she didn't blow me up and speak on it and we continued our relationship.But it implanted in my brain a certain degree of performance anxiety.Of course.Yeah, that makes sense.Yeah, so now think about it.
51:37Get it at 14 and then at 22, I've become a male stripper.And when women go home with a male stripper,you pose to be magnificent.You're a fantasy.Oh, yeah.Right?So now I have all this sexual pressure to perform because I'm a male stripper.Then I become a male escort.
51:56Now I'm getting paid to perform, you know?And so my book just kind of chronicles in a way where very relatable scenarios with men that we've run into just validation through sex.Totally.And, you know, I try to share.share i make the book as hilarious as possible because most men dealing with ed there's nobody to talk toand it's definitely nothing to laugh at you know i'm saying so i wanted to create a space where a guy couldget a relatable story relatable things to do ways to fix it because i tried every single thingit is not any method that a man did to preserve his penis keep it functioning get it working right all the
52:43way up to the implant.Yeah, right.Over my 30-something years of experience, it's just a wealth of information for men correctingyour sexual issues all the way to the final boss of the implant.And it's given to you a funny, relatable story that's going to take you back to your teenage years.It's going to take you through art break and how that affects it.It's going to take you to, how you validate yourself between your money and your money.your status and if that gets taken away from you how your value goes away and it's just it's just
53:21an experience that all men go through in a way that'll make you look at your life and your problemseven bigger than sexual issues um and understand that you might be being affected much deeper than youeven understanding yourself.Yeah, I love that.I feel like guys need more of that kind of stuff for them, right?Because a lot of times that's the kind of stuff that people, guys sit with, right?Who are they going to talk to about that shit?You know, and there's not a lot of guys.
53:52Yeah, and there's not a lot of guys that wind up talking about it and would put theirname in their face to it and be out and proud, which I think is like really awesomethat you did that and you put that book out.So tell me about the penile implant.Like, how old were you?Like, I know that you struggled with it for real long times.the seven years later after like the ditty thing like what what how old were you at the time whenyou actually got it so i got the peanut implant at 47 okay um and don't get me wrong those seven years
54:22i was still functioning right what i think wow right i was just popping my pills and it wasworking well for me what really took me to the point where i could not perform yeah wasi ended up in a full relationship with one of my escort clientsI was going to ask you about like your dating life throughout all of this because, you know, some women would be like, oh my God, you're fucking couples for a living like I can't date you.But you wound up with one of your escort couples wives.Who was that?Who did you wind up with?It was a married woman who hired me for escorting services.
54:58Okay.And, you know, with male escorting, it's not like guys with female prostitutes.We're strictly physical.When women hire you, they still want the relationship.Yeah.They want to talk.They want to text.they want to interact and it kind of builds where you're just let's say a side guy getting paid right
55:16that's what it really becomes um so this actually matured into a relationship right she was a woman thattreated me amazing you know um she wanted something serious between us and we embarked on this relationshipnow i don't feel i'm at my sexual best i'm popping the pills i'm definitely not young man but i thinkI'm holding it down, right?I have a bunch of sexual skill.I think she's happy.And about four years into our relationship,I discovered not only was she cheating on me,
55:49but she was cheating on me hiring another escort.You're kidding.She was hiring an escort on escort.You know what you're saying?And when I decided to have that conversation that we shouldn't do the why,she told me because I fell off.in the book. Oh shit. And so mind you, I'm a guy that at this point in my life, my whole beingis my sexuality. Of course. It's, yeah. So,
56:20that's your career. So her telling me, and it even got worse, right? I'm the Punisher, right? So there's adominant, you know, BDSM aspect to that. And the guy she was hiring was a BDSM, you know,master with this huge like look i think i am okay in the penis department when i tell you this dudehad a subway five dollar phone oh no the worst so this huge dick you know he's he got afucking dog chain around a neck track it like it was just everything that couldintimidate and masquerate yeah create insecurity happened and then it was the constantaffirmation of I sought this out because you were not holding it down.And for a year, for a year, I could not get an direction.
57:15Oh, after that.That was the final straw.That was the final straw.With everything you tried, nothing worked anymore.There was zero left to try.There was zero left to try.And now, don't get me wrong in all honesty, me being at this place.So what it created for me was an insecurity.
57:35And, you know, I talk about this in my book because I think this is why a lot of guys stay in these sexless marriages and in these long-term relationship.As a man, when we declined sexually, it becomes so much pressure that we're just grateful that a woman will just be with us.Right.Knowing that we cannot satisfy him sexually.Yeah.You go back to that first guy that you hooked up with, right?The guy that was sitting there telling you, he was hiring you for his life.Yeah.
58:02Exactly.So in my mind, even though I felt tremendously betrayed, I was heartbroken.It was actually like trauma.I had a sense of PTSD from getting the details of how she cheated and stuff like that.I wanted to leave her, but I couldn't because my eye was like, well, who's going to want me?Wow.And get my shit hard.You know what I'm saying?
58:24Yeah, of course.I can't go back into the Dayton market like this.So I stayed with her, but every time we would go to have sex, I would have,the ruminating thoughts and I can, I'm imagining that $5 footlong being shell down a fucking throat, right?You know what I'm saying?Like, extra mayo, right?Five dollar foot?Oh, extra mail, right?
58:45So I'm so, so I can't perform, right?I just can't.I can't perform.And so it went to do all of the things, the PRP shots, the gain wave, the trying these different supplements to all of these different things and nothing worked.And so, you know, I ended up doing some research and I found out a good friend of mine.I got a penis implant.Yeah.And I actually knew about it before I had my problems.
59:13And I honestly thought it was the funniest thing.I talked so much shit about this guy.I don't know this go go get.He got a rogo dick.I'm cracking jokes on this guy.Yeah.Because at the time when I found about I was fine and then I was served that humble pie, man.The same guy, I was talking so much shit behind his back.
59:31You know what I'm saying?I'm joking on them.I called them up.I was like,hey, man,I'm struggling.And thank God he didn't know I was talking shit.He gave me all the information.
59:42Everything I needed to know,it was tremendously helpful.Wow.Being able to talk to somebody that had it,that did it,that can kind of walk me through it.I ended up finding the doctor,getting surgery.
59:56And it was,you know,life changing for me.And the real,awakening of it wasbefore they give you the surgery,he put me to an extensivemedical evaluation.
01:00:09Like basically, I got basically MRIsfor my fucking dick. And it wasabsolutely nothingwrong with me. Actually, my peniswaslike to do, you know, workingbecause I told you, over the years,I tried every PRP
01:00:25games where it's all these, themes,everything, I did everything.But I was so far, sodeeply psychologically traumatized that I still went through with the surgery. I probably didn't even need it.Well, listen, the mind is really powerful, right? So, and it could really, you could get locked intoshit like that. And you could either like spend years in therapy talking through it and tryingto figure out, or you could just get the implant, which you did and get back to business, right? I don't know.There you go. You know? That was my exact mentality. It was like, by the time he, when he told me
01:00:58everything was fine, I was three weeks out from surgery.So I was like, I could even stop the surgery and like you said, possibly take years in some therapist's chair talking about how my penis doesn't work because my mommy didn't hug me.Yeah, exactly.Or I can do a quick fix that I know after the surgery.The doctor I used had a two-week recovery public.You're kidding.So I'm like two weeks after this and I got a never-ending erection.I'm so bad.
01:01:28I'm doing the surgery.Yeah.Oh, my God.Wait, let me ask you this.Was it cover, does insurance cover something like that?Or do you have to, do they have to find something on the MRI for it to cover it?So it can, right?Yeah.
01:01:40So like even in my book and in my, actually have a community called Your Hard Reset.Oh, I love that.Give that shout out.It's your Hard Reset.com and it's a place where men go who, you know, all the thingsthat talk about in my book with the struggling and stuff like that.Yeah.How it's actually mentally and mostly it helps you with, you know,women, bedroom strategies.
01:02:03It's just a whole wealth of information that I'm going to have in here for guys.And it will also explain how you get it covered by insurance.Oh, okay.And it's a nuanced way you have to do it because insurance will definitely cover it,but only if it's your last resort.Just go in and say I want one.So I have to pay out of pocket.You paid out of pocket.
01:02:23Could I ask how much it was out of pocket?For me, it was $32,000.Okay.And how many years ago was that?That was2021.Okay, so maybe it's a little bit more,but around that out of pocket.
01:02:37But you have,is the hard reset something that is live nowthat people could go in there?Is that something you're setting up?Absolutely, absolutely.I actually started it.It went live October 1st.Oh, love that.
01:02:51Perfect.And, yeah, it went live October 1st.And right now, literally,literally when I get off this call,I'm shooting lessons, courses.is actually currently a free community.I just want to get guys in there.You know, the purpose of my book,
01:03:07the purpose of this community and stuff is my life was so changedand not just my sex life, right?I realized once it corrected my erection.I realized so many other parts of my lifehave been changed and compromised for me basicallymaking concessions because of,my sexual insecurities. So certain things I tolerated, right? In terms of disrespect with women,in terms of approaching women, right? In terms of just interaction and social and scenarios, because I had
01:03:44this fear of me being able to perform, it totally morphed me into somebody that I didn't even know.You know, my value was so connected to my sexuality. My pursuit of sex, my sexual desire,desire, everything had taked because of this pressure. And when, and the, the psychological part of itit is so deep, I will tell you, well, over a year after I got the implant, mind you, I got animplant. My erection is as solid as can be. I will never fail. I still took Cialis every time Ihad sex. In the beginning? In the first year? For a full year. Wow.to the implants.That's how ingrained.
01:04:30Yeah, hilarious.That's how powerful the brain is.So being somebody that went through that and went through it pretty much alone, figuredit out or whatever, I started talking to guys.And it felt like every other guy over the age 35 was experiencing something similar.Yeah.And that they never shared with anybody.Totally.
01:04:54until I shared it with them.Mm-hmm.Yeah.And the conversation would be, man, I would never tell us to anybody, man.Thank you so much for bringing this up.I feel so much better.Right now to this point, I've had, I mean, I can't count how many guys have wentand got implants or used other products or used other things I've recommended for not just
01:05:14tricks in directions, for more size, for dealing with women, for tips in the bedroom.And it's so fulfilling to me because I know what it felt.You feel like you're on a day.You feel like castaway.You feel like you're on the deserted island all alone, right?Yeah.And I realized that I am these guys Wilson, right?If you ever see he passed away.
01:05:37Oh my God, I love it.Yeah, the ball.Yeah.And it's so fulfilling to me, man.Like it's really, it feels like it gives me a purpose, right?And purpose is so.important and for the stuff that i went through i'll be the first to tell you man i've had a verytrickered lifestyle in this court and i'm dealing with guys wives and you know of course and i've dealt
01:06:01with tremendous trauma and issues from it and to land on my feet here where all that is experienceand information is now in a way where i can cultivate it to helping guys man it's true thingsis it's it's the most fulfilled i felt umin my life.Yeah, and I'm sure that it helps you, like, look back at everything that you went throughand instead of sort of regretting it or whatever, realize that it all got you to where you are now.Now you're really actually helping people, right?So maybe at the end of the day, it all happened for this reason, and you're going to help a lot of people.
01:06:38And I think in areas like this, because I have a very large male audience, you know,and I put a lot of stuff out there for guys that people don't typically talk about, you know.and I always get emails from guys like thanking me for it, you know,and because there are guys have to, you know, guys, it's worse for men than women in a lot of ways.You know, guys got to be fucking macho.They don't, can't have feelings.And I do think like stuff like this is really needed for guys, you know, and I love that you started it.And, you know, if you want to ever come back on and do a whole sexual health Saturday series,
01:07:07we'll do something, you know, on, get more in depth about the penile implant and, you know,pitch the hard reset in your book again.I would love to have you on any time you want to come back on.I would totally do it because I love that you're talking about this and I think that guys really need this kind of information.And I definitely love to get deeper into all of that on another episode.Oh, listen, my pleasure, man.I live and breathe this stuff.Oh, love it.
01:07:31The more information I can share, the more I can give to help guys and, you know, through my, you know, experience and mistakes, right?You know what it's about, man.So, yeah, I would love to do one of those sexual health Saturday.So, you know, we got to definitely get that on the calendar.All right.I'm going to send your person the link again to rebook it.Give a shout out to Hard Reset, your book.I will put links in the description.
01:07:57And then you'll set up another time to come on.We'll do a whole other episode.Yep.So yeah, man, listen, shout out.I mean, your hardreset.com is a community.Fellas, everything you could possibly think of to work onand improve yourself from your individual.to your relationship, to understanding women, to mastering your bedroom techniques,
01:08:21and to maximize whatever you've got in your pants, is going to be in there, fellas.So please, you know, jump in there and get the resources because there's going to benowhere else you're going to get it with firsthand experience and in a way that you can use itimmediately, like immediate change. You can find me on any socials at get punning.that's my Instagram is pretty much the one that I focus on much but it's Facebook, TikTok, all things.And if you want to just jump on some immediate products and tools that's available,just the Punisher Pack you're going in.It's just this actual natural herbal things that me and other escorts and guys in the porn use to kind of maintain and keep your man working.
01:09:17optimal that is stupid, super, super stupid. Yeah. And I mean, just a quick breakdown on it. Yeah.Most men experience, when you first start having sex, you could put on a condom and stuff.Everything is completely sensation. You feel everything. And as you get older, you put that condom on,you're like, I can't feel anything. Right? So for years, I would use this cacao-based cream. It's almost like lotion.You jump out of the shower, you put it on, you massage it in.It's very simple to use.And it kind of regenerates the nerves and the sensitivities and everything in there.And I don't know why a bunch of people don't use it.
01:09:57You know what I'm saying?Yeah.This is the thing.But it's like products like that with guys, just normal maintenance of things you never think of.Like most guys get out to shower, they don't even put lotion on.You know, you know.Yeah, no, no, you have the tricks of the trade.You know, I love that.
01:10:13tricks to the trade, all of the tricks of the trade. So again, man, this is just me trying to share mylife, my 30 plus years. I was an escort, stripper, mail provider, whatever you want to call it,and just go into everything we all go through, man. When Midlife crisis hit me, man, it was falling off a cliff,but I got back up. So I just want to help people all in the same time. Well, listen, you started out asa teacher, right? You were a kindergarten teacher, and now you're a teacher again. You're teaching guys, you know,in helping them. And I think that that's like pretty amazing.So, you know.Yeah. Never looked at it that way.
01:10:48Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Think about it. That's who you were. That's who you've always been.And I love that you're there. I'm, I can't wait to talk to you again. We'll have you back on.I'll put all your links in the description. People should follow you on Instagram. You'refucking hilarious and insightful. I follow you over there. I like your stuff. So anyway,thanks so much for calling in and we'll talk soon. Okay.Oh, thank you so much.Thanks, Shire, the Punisher, Hayes. Right.What do people call you like if they just say one word,
01:11:14sure, right? Or the pun.Pun. Oh, pun. Okay. Okay.Yeah.Every more people call me pun than my actual government name.All right, I like it.All right. We'll talk soon, Pond.Thanks so much for calling in. This was great.Yeah, same here. Thank you.
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