Subpar - Shadow Creek GM Monte Montgomery on hosting 'The Showdown' between LIV and the PGA Tour, the most epic wagers he's witnessed

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

On this week's episode of GOLF's Subpar Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz oin Shadow Creek GM Monte Montgomery for an exclusive interview from the legendary Las Vegas course. The father of current PGA Tour p...layer Taylor Montgomery talks the most epic bets he has witnessed on the course, the incredible guest list they entertain and what he has planned for hosting the upcoming 'The Showdown' featuring Brooks Koepka and Bryson DeChambeau taking on Rory McIlroy and Scottie Scheffler. -- Thanks to Ralph Lauren, the Official Outfitter of GOLF's Subpar. The RLX Golf collection is available in select Ralph Lauren stores, exclusive private clubs, and resorts, and online at http://RalphLauren.com. -- Subscribe Now to out YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt5ESUx6omMUsMoEKvMTzlA Shop The Birdie Juice Collection: https://fairwayjockey.com/collections/birdie-juice Follow Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/golf_subpar/?hl=en Follow Twitter: https://twitter.com/golf_subpar?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

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Starting point is 00:00:09 All right, welcome back to golf subpar with Coltonost and Drew Stoltz. Sleys the holiday season is here. And during the holiday season, we rock the cashmere. Our favorite cashmere from RLX, Ralph Lauren, about as soft as it gets. You got a nice little piece on over there. Look at me right now. I never knew this existed. What I'm wearing right now is a collared, short sleeve golf shirt also made of cashmere.
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Starting point is 00:01:09 me. Try this little short-sleeved number out, and you will not be disappointed. I can't wait to see you in July. I'm going to be 92. I'll wear this. It's 48. I'm wearing this too. It doesn't matter. I've never had cashmere on my bare chest before, and by God I like it. Well, it's actually the offseason for the PGA tours, but we did have a little golf, the Australian Open down at two beautiful golf courses, which I have had the pleasure of playing. Kingston Heath, Victoria Golf Club down in Melbourne, where an American, Riggs-Johnston, who I actually just learned about when we had David Pugge in here a few weeks ago. They were roommates at Arizona State.
Starting point is 00:01:40 This kid is a stud, apparently. Obviously, got overshadowed a little bit down in Tempe with all the studs he played with. Tough team to get some shine on by the ASC. Just went through all three stages of DP World Tour. Didn't even know if he was going to, DP World Tour, Q School. Didn't know if he was actually even going to get into the Australia event, decided to go, got in, and wins the whole damn thing.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Made three birdies on 15, 16, and 17 coming down the stretch to end up winning by three. really cool from Libby Montana gotta think that's the first PG or not PJA but first World Golf win maybe for the great city of Libby Montana 3,000 people. Is that the pop? 3,000 nice. Pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:02:19 That's not. It's only second DP World Tourist start like you said now in the Open Championship. Clearly this kid's got a ton of game. It's hard to make your way and on any tour right now at the level of talent. But about a nice launching pad for him and yeah, he's the guy like, I mean we're around here. We know the ASS.
Starting point is 00:02:34 you guys. I didn't know anything about him until Pooge brought him up and clearly he's good as shit. Yeah, be interested to see what he does now. I mean, traveling around playing the DP World Tour, try to get in that top 10 at the end of next year and get a PGA tour card, but he's in a major championship. Congratulations to him. And by the way, I don't know
Starting point is 00:02:50 if you got to watch any of it at all, but they had some rough weather down there. Like, he didn't even play a practice round at Kingston Heath. I like that. I think that's a good idea sometimes. So it was really wet. I mean, the bunkers were basically flooded. But Kingston Heath, if you ever get a chance, that place is all time. It's in my top five. It's my number one, if I could take any golf trip anywhere, it'd be that side of Australia, play all those down there.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They're all close, too. But the people that I talk to that have played all of them in Europe, all them in the state, you know, these guys that travel the world, like, they all come back from there just raving about it. I love the bunkering. A firm and fast, like less, just feels less cookie cutter than a lot of the golf you get over here, where it's through the air, stop it, land soft, all that. There's more creativity. Maybe we'll have to do a little destination subpar. It might never come back from Australia if I get down there. Melbourne, okay. Margo Robbie, ever heard of her?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Yep, decent looking. Pregnant, though. Cheated on us. Ugh. But whatever. Disgusting. The Crown Casino, right there in downtown Melbourne, you like casinos? They like me.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They got a lot of amazing restaurants. They like me. And then you're just a short, no more than 20 minutes. You can probably play five of the best golf courses in the world. Roll Melbourne is 15 minutes from the Crown. And right across street is Victoria. Another 10 minutes down the road is Kingston Heath. Those are the three I've been to.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I mean, if you just played those three, you would be in absolute heaven. I've heard there's some others that are just up there with them, if not even better. It is a cool place. And the President's Cup is going to Kingston Heath in 28. I love that. They need more marquee golf down there because, like, live guys show up down there. That's their most attended event. That's the loudest.
Starting point is 00:04:21 That's the best turnout. The President's Cup down there was awesome. I just feel like they got great golf fans. They produce great golfers. They love it, but they don't get much of it. It's kind of far. It's not the easiest joint to, get to in the world. But, um, huge fan of Australian golf. It's like that. That spot's kind of like
Starting point is 00:04:39 the Long Island down there. Like, dude, we're 15 minutes from some of the best in the world. It's cool. But congratulations to Riggs Jocelyn on that big win. Um, interesting week in the, did you watch any? Did you watch any? So by the way, happy Thanksgiving. Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. Thursday, Slees, I swear to you, I didn't miss one single play of the three NFL games. 11 a.m. here local time. It kicked off. We ate lunch right before the start of the cowboy game, and I was on the couch. My bottle of Sincoro. Damn near finished the whole thing off by myself. I hate to say it, but had the big styrofoam cup, and it just kept getting refilled. Yeah, it happens. And we had a special guest, Mike Commodore at the house. Yeah, that is special. That'll make you give some thanks.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It was. I haven't caught me in the house. An awesome day. Tons of football. We go on a little heater. Comey picked all three NFL games. Cormy's running hot, unbeaten in fantasy also. Working on. He's lost once. He did lose? This week? A week before. Oh, damn. He won't turn in a row to start the season.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, he's working on a dynasty. Yeah. I beat you this week. Sorry about it. What a bunch of bullshit these mathematics are on this app. I'd turn it off. I leave the house for the first time, no bullshit in three days. I watched every single snap of football.
Starting point is 00:05:49 My wife came in and she's like, this is your third day where you're going to watch like 13 hours of football. I was like, yeah. Tell me where the problem is. I finally leave like a two-hour stretch. I look at the thing. Most of our guys had played, and I'm an 80-something percent chance to win. I'm like, oh, burnt an app, see you later.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I come back, forget about it, watching the game last night in the snow, which was awesome. And I was like, oh, let me see how this thing shook out. Click it. Lose by a million. I pounded you. Lose by a million. Nice math. I can't have an 85% chance of winning and then lose by 25.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Math's wrong. I'll recalibrate that. All I know is I won, and I'm happy. But anyway, the football was awesome. My SMU Mustangs, now up to number seven in the country, after beating the shit out of Max Homas, Cow Bears. Heading to the ACC championship. I hope you feel good about yourself.
Starting point is 00:06:36 How do you feel about that? I mean, it looked like Miami. 21-0 up there, Syracuse, blow that thing. Now Clemson gets in even with the loss. Do you like having Clemson or would you rather Miami? I don't know. I haven't watched either team enough. Obviously, Miami is who it looked like we're going to be playing.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Was it Cam Ward? There's a freaking stud. I can change a game by himself. He's a little terrifying. Clemson, I watched the first game of the year. And I was like, these guys aren't really even that good. Dabo's been under all kinds of heat. And somehow they're in the ACC Championship.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And I hope we go out there. We're two and a half-point favorites in Charlotte. So kind of a home game for them. But we're going to go out there and take care of business and get ourselves in the playoffs and get a buy. You might be in with an L. But then you enter into the night you're working against Ole Miss and Alabama's, the South Carolinas and the small brands. Trust me, normally get screwed on that deal.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I think y'all are in regardless. But yeah, go ahead and just win that just to eliminate any of the bullshit. Sounds like Miami. and all of Miami got a little distracted up there in Syracuse. So we had the mascot spitting a little game over at one of the reporters there in Syracuse, asking for her phone number in the fourth quarter when they were losing. You got to stay focused, man. When you're dressed up like an enormous bird,
Starting point is 00:07:44 wearing a helmet and you're like, I'm going to go shoot my shot. Sebastian, the Ibis just over there spitting game asking for phone numbers. Still has not been confirmed if Ashley, the reporter actually gave in and gave the number out. If that worked, then God bless the man. I think, you know, the first thing you look at when you meet someone is like, what do they look like? Physical appearance. You don't know anything about the person, so that's what you go off of. Like, this dude's in a full-on bird costume. Unless she's a big bird watcher.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, there's that fluffies or whatever those things are? Furries. Furries, yeah. Fluffy. Same shit. It's not my thing. I might try it, but it's not really my thing. Also, big weekend for fighting.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Yeah. It was every rivalry game. Now the flag planning, which apparently has just become the biggest ordeal. in the world. Every team's doing it. And believe it or not, the losing team doesn't appreciate it much. The Ohio State Michigan game, that was just, that was a mess. You don't want the other team to plant a flat on your field? Don't lose.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Score some points against the team that can't throw football. Ohio State, Ryan Day, what is happening? This is four straight losses to Michigan. Michigan pretty much has called it a season. They don't even have an offense. They're 21-point underdogs going to Ohio State. It's like, cool. They threw for like 12 yards.
Starting point is 00:08:55 They literally can't throw it forward. The only pass that was wide open all day. The dude threw a pick. All he had to do is throw it in the air. That's one of given like where Ohio State is, national championship ambitions, 20 million they've spent on that roster this year. The whole thing is like be Michigan win a national title.
Starting point is 00:09:11 That's everything. And then Michigan coming off the natty, but like way down, don't have a quarterback. Literally have zero offense, but they got the number one kid coming in next year. This was like, okay, this season's a throwaway. For them to lose that game. I've talked to some Ohio State buddies.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And they're like, dude, even if we win the national championship, which they still could. It'd be like, dude, it's like a hollow season. It's like, we'll never hear the end of this. Which is why I called football sweet. And I really think Michigan was just like, yeah, we got the national championship. We've beat y'all three times in a row. Y'all can have this one. I mean, they were just like conceding it.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It was almost like, I mean, the whole thing was they're going to run up the score. What Will Gordon said going in is like, if I can go for three, I'll go for three, you know. He's in the old quote. I mean, game day. But it was like they were like not going to call off the dogs. And then they just lost. Normally you kind of expect game day to be at that game. I mean, it's the game.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And now they're at Texas, Texas, Texas, A&M, which was also a rather large game where Texas won and is going to play Georgia in a rematch for the SEC championship. That's the only game that sucks where you get two teams that are in. They're already in. They've already played each other once in the regular season. Now they've got to play again. And like, we're both going to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You're playing for the buy, sure. But it's like, don't get anyone hurt that matters. You know, it just feels like a weird. That's the only negative, I think, about the 12-team playoff is like, you can get situations like this conference championship with two teams that are in. And then it's kind of like, what are we doing? Who wants to buy? All we want to do is try to win the national championship.
Starting point is 00:10:33 You're playing for the buy. But I mean, there's a world also where they play three times this year. They can meet in the playoffs too. Of course. Which would be weird. They just don't want to run into SMU. No. Nobody wants any part.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Stand up. Killing it. Nobody. They're in Dallas. It's a beautiful thing. I can't wait for this Saturday. We have some big time golf happening this week. Okay, first off.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Some of the biggest. Pros and Joe's down in Cabo, which I'm headed to on Wednesday. Pretty much the biggest pro scratch ever. The biggest international event, I would say, in the world. If everyone finishes, it would be a damn miracle. It's not about winning down there. It's about having a good time. But you are taking your talents down the road here to grass clippings.
Starting point is 00:11:11 My immense talents, yes. For a little par three shootout under the lights. Two-day affair. Two-day affair. I'm a member of the Minnesota Muskees, and I will be playing with my four-ball partner, Drew Kittelson. I played that golf course. I played it twice, but it's been like a year.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I played it when it first opened. Went out with the Bob does sports guys. Had a great time out there. That was a little bit more of a loose environment. But might need to sneak down there and just check the join out. It's a lot of like nines, wedges, eights. It's not a ton of like sand wedges and lob wedges. And there's a few that are like over 200.
Starting point is 00:11:45 It'll be fun. Who else is on the muskies? The muskies, we have Andrew Medley. We'll be playing on the team. Brian Hopps. who goes to who okay hoops okay hoops who i thought his name was hoops for like 15 years
Starting point is 00:11:57 and then i got his voicemail and it says it reach brian hops in what world do you spell hoops h oops and i was like i haven't called him wrong name for 12 years and he's never said anything so i think everyone just calls him hoops he's on the squad who else do we got i thought there's only four guys that might be it that's four guys that's it well i had to miss the first one so i didn't get to
Starting point is 00:12:16 oh you had a sub has it been vague as yeah i had a sub so here we go we're going to mix it up DoD Kings coming into town. He's playing on Wyndham's team, municipal. Dear God. They got freezer tarps too, Chetty. There's going to be some... Who the fuck's freezer tarps?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Good characters. Check him on Instagram. He's hilarious. It's a funny dude on Instagram. Our man, Ben Marsh is like a reserve. Is he in the bullpen in case we need him? I was going to ask him to maybe live. I don't know for what team.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I was going to see if he wanted a caddy. So how's two-day? You and your team? Two-day, best ball, add him up. I think the last one went into a, shootout. I was talking to Kitty about it. He's like, dude, it's way more of a thing than you think. He's like, there's grandstands. The cameras are out. You get it in it. Like, there's people, you know, it's like a pretty well-attended thing. And I think this one's supposed to be bigger than
Starting point is 00:13:03 the last one. It's, it's live on Peacock. The cock. So if you're at home and you want to check it out, just tune into the cock. And you can see a kid dealing around little nine-irons just moving it around. Wow. TV time for slaves. Museum, the museum coming out of hibernation. The museum was closed there for a while. In Las Vegas, it was just, I mean, it wasn't even he doesn't get up for days like that. It was too, too early for him. And also I've talked about, yeah, but based on when we went to bed, also the hungover, dude, I have some sort of issue where I'm, I don't know exactly what vertigo is, but I think I have it. Okay. Well, we'll save that topic for another show. I go in and out. What is that? Drunk? Yeah. Nah. I love you,
Starting point is 00:13:45 vertigo. No, it's after being drunk when it had. It doesn't happen when I'm drinking. All right. Well, Anyways, speaking of Los Vegas, we'll get a doctor in here as a guest. Our guest this week is not, in fact, a doctor. Could be. But he is a beautiful human. He runs the show there at my favorite place in the world, Shadow Creek. He's the GM, and it's been an unbelievable ride for him. And this guy's got so many great stories.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I mean, basically, started a UNLV, worked his way up through Shadow Creek, and now he runs the show there. We got Monty Montgomery joining us on subpart. This one is special, y'all. Okay, folks. today this is a privilege. This is a privilege right here. We have a very important man in our midst.
Starting point is 00:14:26 The GM of Shadow Creek, one of the most phenomenal properties in Olive Golf, not to mention the 1992, 1997, in 2013 Rocky Mountain Open champion Monty Montgomery. Did nobody play in 2013? What an event? You had a dynasty.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I tell you what an event that was. The Rocky Mountain Open Championship. I never knew this actually until yesterday when Sleece told me. It's a nice Colorado jick. I tell you what, every tour player, I'm surprised they don't know about it. Tell me what the first place check was at the Rocky Mountain Open. In 92.
Starting point is 00:14:57 92. I think it was 4,000. That's a nice week. Yeah. You ever had a put out here for more than 4,000? Maybe. Maybe. Possibly.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, what are you, a cop? You know, you and I have known each other for quite a long time now. We've had many of battles out there on the golf course. I tell everyone, this is my favorite place in the world. And it's not because of you. It's because of the golf course. Kidding. No doubt. No doubt. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Let's go back to the beginning here. You're the GM at Shadow Creek, one of the most prestigious golf courses in the world. Tell me about the first time you ever stepped foot on this property. Well, it's real easy. I mean, it's just like today almost. I mean, I'm just, I'm blessed. I'm lucky. You get lucky in life and a few things, and I consider that one of my luckiest things. I just got on the UNOV golf team, and of course, Steve Wynn at the time made this our home course. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I had no idea. Yeah. And so here I am, a little redneck coming out of Colorado, and I walk on this property, and I instantly fell in love. It's like being in Colorado, but it's fantasy land out here. You know, I mean, it's just, you don't see this in the desert, and I don't know. I fell in love with it. met some great people along the way, which kept me going, and I never wanted to go anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:16:18 It's weird. I mean, it's like being married, too. You know, I've been married for 35 years, great wife, and it's kind of the same. I just never wanted to leave. Micah is so lucky, as is Shadow Creek. But tell us about, like, I wouldn't ask crew that. Tell us about, like, what was your first role here? So when I came out, I just played on the UNLV golf team.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And so we could come out of it. at any time, which was remarkable at a facility like this. It was just, it's really unheard of in today's times to have a revenue golf course or something big casino golf course and having the UNOV golf team be able to come out and use a facility, do what they want and act like a member. So, you know, when that happened, I got through school and tried to make it on tour. It didn't work. and I just kind of stayed here and caddied for a while and tried to make it on tour doing that, never did,
Starting point is 00:17:19 and met all the great people in Las Vegas and all the people that used to come out here. And when you're a kid, you don't know how lucky you are when that's happening until you get older, and then you look back and go, wow, that was just, it's just luck. I don't know if it's luck or if it's just maybe,
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't know what to call it, but it worked out great. Yeah, it worked out great. How long did you chase it after you and OV? Well, I had Taylor in... And how close did we get? So I got out of school in 93. I didn't go to Q school.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I should have went to Q school in 92 when I got out, but I went... I had another 15 credits I had to take, so I decided not to go to Q school in 92, 93. I turned pro, and then I had Taylor in 94. All Taylor's fault. Yeah, yeah. And then you know what happens after that, you know, the golf game. kind of goes down so I gave it probably tell 97 to play but I was terrible you did play the 1996 Buick Open if I recall yeah I remember watching it on TV and being like
Starting point is 00:18:22 who is this Monty guy great time how do we do at the Buick open yeah pretty good finish 19th right now 20 and your only tour start yeah slightly different than yours Lee so so the cool part of it I made five grand each yeah oh made a nice little 9700 he's he's doubled up played one tour event yeah Monday qualified Got offered $5 grand to switch equipment, and he took it. And then missed the cut. They didn't have strokes gained back then, but dude, it would set an all-thage. It's the narrowest golf course on the PGA tour at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Windy, all you got to do is hit it low and straight, which is what I did at the time. Got this new club, it hit it in a fucking miles offline. If there was strokes gain stats, then it would be like, this is the most strokes lost ever off the T in the history of golf. If you had your dark... Sevee by Astero's in his prime to shoot like 74-70s. What the hell driver? Did you switch to it?
Starting point is 00:19:08 It doesn't matter. Do they even exist anymore? No, I don't think they really do. He switched to Adams. If you had your cobra at dark speed, my dark. You'd still be here to start. Yeah, see.
Starting point is 00:19:17 If I had my cobra out. You probably wouldn't be sitting here. Lethal. Yeah, with a one. You'd be at the RSN with Taylor. I'd be having to grind it out, which I'm not about. Well, now, you're still a stud. No.
Starting point is 00:19:27 I mean, just ask him. What does, what does Colt give you? Or do you, does he get two aside from you? I need it. He's good player. He would take it. He would take it. No, no, we just go straight up.
Starting point is 00:19:38 100% I would take it. You know what's fun, Moncy? is we got some guys that are pros back in Scott Still. They've been on the PJ tour, played great golf, and now they're kind of getting towards the tail end, maybe shutting it down or waiting on champions toward those type of guy, and now they're taking strokes from the current pros for the first time, which I've never seen.
Starting point is 00:19:54 That's when you know it's a rap. It's real easy. I mean, that's what you do when you start getting older. They're asking for like one and a half a side, like significant amount of shots. I guess I'm just different because I'm like, yeah, I need strokes. Like, you're much better than, by way, I needed strokes when I played on tour. Yeah. But you're much better to me.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't mind taking it. Now these guys, they get a stroke for the first time, and you would think they're on the 72nd hole of the Masters. They are so fucking nervous. It is unbelievable. A full panic when they get a stroke, because they're just trying to make a four for three. Well, the thing is, too, they're so good.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And then when they're getting shots, if they lose getting shots, it's embarrassing. It is worse. You know what I mean? It's not great. And you think I get embarrassed with you all the time. I get two aside from you. Yeah, but I used to be an embarrassed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 You know what I mean? Like, we're shit. It went up. Yeah, of course. This is how wonderful this man is. I started off, me and him battled quite a many times. I started off, and I think I beat him the first ten times. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:20:48 This one is a straight up game? It went straight up, and then it went to strokes. And we're in Aria, high limit one night. And he goes, you know what, you some bitch? I might be 10 and 0, but tomorrow we're going to be 11 and 1. I said, do that math real quick. I start talking a little out of my head when I have a few cocktails. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But you've been in Vegas for a long time. Like, for people that don't get here as often. Like, how often does a local, like, actually go down to the strip and get involved in all the madness that is down there? Well, there's a lot of crazy people in this town. I mean, that's what keeps the lights on. There's no doubt. But, you know, I don't go down very often, so I can only kind of look at myself or my friends. You just go down when family's in town or if it's function or if you want to have a nice dinner, you're going to go down there.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Give me Monty Montgomery's favorite restaurant in Vegas because there's probably not many other cities in the world that have better restaurants in here. Well, I just took up eating sushi probably four years ago. So by far right now, Yellow Tail is my favorite. By far. What took it so long to get into the sushi game? It just, you know, it never grew up that way. And then all of a sudden Taylor says, hey, I'm going to take you to get some sushi. And I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I'm like, I don't think I can eat that kind of stuff. And we went down there and it's just the restaurant is, it's extravagant. I mean, and the service there, it's just, the food is just remarkable. He would have never took you if he wasn't sponsored by MGM, by the way. Oh, that's no doubt. You know that. We all know that. I'm still waiting on him to take me dinner once.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Well, I told him, I said, do you ever take cold to dinner? I'll never talk to you again. Fair enough. It's good parenting. Yeah, that's actually the best advice you ever giving it. got to have some rules. Yeah, that's very. Little structures good. I actually don't really eat in this town.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I just drink everything. Well, that's true. Well, that's why I told him. I said, if you take him to eat, the food bill's going to be $100 and the bar bill is going to be $4,000. I think it's nice. Charged to the room. A lot of good deals here, too. A lot of things on discount down on this trip. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Go back to this golf course for a minute because for the people that haven't been out here, I've gotten a chance to see it now with a couple of matches and tournaments. FJ Tour has been out here, LPJ. Describe this property, though, because there's a picture inside, which get and put it up. There's nothing or like you would this place is the like sticks out more than anything it's it's so different than anything that's around here. It's just a very cool property and that's why I fell in love with it but you know when it was first built it was 20 miles outside of town and flat country sagebrush just totally flat they came in and at the time they moved more dirt than
Starting point is 00:23:28 than ever on a golf course I think it was 26 million cubic yards and then uh They just dug a deep hole and formed it just by, you know, building up the perimeter and everything else. So when you're out here, it's just, it's so unique. And I don't think you could build a golf course like this anywhere. Now it's just too expensive. But back then they could do it. And now the city is basically by the golf course in a matter of 30 years. But as far as what they did, it was just remarkable.
Starting point is 00:24:03 and like I said, you can't do it nowadays. But when you're on this property, it's the same with people that's never played here and want to come out. It's just, it's an experience. And obviously, it's Las Vegas. So it's, I call it fantasy land, Las Vegas. And this is just part of that experience. When you come out for the first time, you're like, you think you're lost. Like the driver's lost.
Starting point is 00:24:25 You're like, there's no, like, dude, we're in a corporate or like, you know, industrial warehouses. There's no way we're about to turn on to a world-class golf. It's honestly. obviously one of the cooler things ever. Then you turn on and you're like, oh my God. Like you're in North Carolina or Colorado or something. It's wild. Yeah, that's what makes it such a unique place.
Starting point is 00:24:43 People are, and we try to keep this kind of on the down low. We don't, like you don't see a whole lot of marketing, you get on the internet and go Shadow Creek. The only basically things you're going to see is from other people posting stuff. Other than that, you get on there, you don't have one through 18 or, you know, this is going to happen. It's kind of like we, well, What I've tried to do and what we've tried to do for many years and I don't want it to change.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But one of these days it probably will is to keep this place very spontaneous. And what I mean by that is you don't know. You don't know what you're going to get when you get here. It's like that's why we call it a mystique. So, you know, your confirmation number is this. And when you get there, it's going to be this way and that way. No, in your mind you have no clue what you're going to experience out here until you get here. And I think that's what makes it very cool.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Or who's going to be out here, yeah. It is heaven on earth. I mean, I believe they asked Tom Fosio, the designer of this place, like, what golf course? Like he goes, what golf course could you build with no budget? He goes, I already did it. It's called Shadow Creek. I talked to Tom at least two, three times a year. We just put in a bunker and I'm never going to do anything without Tom's guidance.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Or we're not going to do anything without his guidance. And he still says it all the time. His most precious place is still Shadow Creek. I think a lot of people probably saw it the first time the Tiger Phil match, right? Which is strange. Like, how did that come to be? Do you guys lobby for that? You just said, like, look, we don't do a lot of marketing.
Starting point is 00:26:10 We're not trying to be all over social media. Like, it's kind of hush, hush. But then all of a sudden, popped up. We're going to host at the time the biggest spectacle golfs probably ever seen. Well, it's real easy now. You've seen Vegas change over the last 10 years, and it's becoming more of a sports town where, I'd say 15 years ago, it was all about to gambling and all about to.
Starting point is 00:26:31 entertainment down there. Now it's becoming a sports marketing mecca, a Super Bowl, you're seeing hockey. That never happened. I think hockey changed like everything because they had so much success right out of the gate. Yeah, and I just don't think the hotels back then wanted anybody. I'm going to go and be transparent here. They wanted you gambling. Yeah. And nowadays, they want the entertainment. They want you coming in. They know that it's just everything, shopping, food. food, concerts, everything now, golf, everything. I mean, you're seeing it. Look at the people that have residencies here.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Yeah. The performers, Bruno Mars, Adele. Adel. I mean, it just goes, it's nuts. Well, in Vegas is such a, you know, people are scared to move here and live here. I think it's been fantastic. I mean, I grew up that way, though. I grew up, you know, kind of being in action since 10 years old, just the way I grew up.
Starting point is 00:27:30 So I always wanted to live here. And I still love it here. I love the action. I love the lights. I love being able to go out at midnight, you know, and seeing people and having good time. Get weird. Yeah. I wonder why we get along so well.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yeah. I like that. I don't know. I mean, they're able to get out there and do it with no loss. All right. So you said you like the actions. It's you're 10 years old. You're in a city where some people's action are different than others.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah. When was the first time you got in a match? you're like, oh boy, this is actually really for something. Out here? Yeah. Oh. We don't have to mention names. Yeah, you can keep it anonymous.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I've been in a few. Listen, I've always tried to stay out of trouble here. You know, to keep the mounts at a level where I can't get in trouble or make anybody mad. And I think I did that well. And just to be able to hang out with them and let them have fun. give them lessons or just make the day better for them. And, of course, I've been to some matches that I'm not going to talk about. But, yeah, I mean, no matter what, I mean, and it's just not here.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I mean, we went to other golf courses in town or around the country. But, yeah, I've always liked the action. So if somebody says, hey, let's do this, you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to name the place time. Let's get it going. Let's get it. If you walk through the locker room here at Shadow Creek, I mean, there's not that many lockers. And the names on those lockers are rather special.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Tell us about some of the guys that really like coming out here. I mean, I know MJ is a massive fan of Shadow. He would probably play here every day if he could. Yeah. Wouldn't be that profitable in the casino for him, though. No. You know, and M's been here for a long time. I mean, he started coming out a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I remember when he was with Steve, when he was still playing. a lot and he'd come out here and he just was a golfer and this when he came to Vegas, if you're going to do some gambling or whatever, you're going to come play golf. It's just the way it is, but most of those guys that have walked in there
Starting point is 00:29:43 it's just part of Las Vegas, you know? I mean, this place is iconic when it comes to back when it opened all the way till now. When people come to Vegas, they want to come out to Shadow Creek and play golf. And most of your staff, I mean, it's been here for a long
Starting point is 00:29:59 time. I mean, does anybody even get starstruck anymore? Well, I think if you get starstruck, you're probably going to be, the job's going to be very tough on you anyway. So I think you just got to let them do their thing and not go crazy. And that's the way I've always been. I've never been starstruck with people. And I think I'm never going to be that way because I don't want to make it, they're supposed to come out here and enjoy themselves and get away from all that. Thank you for treating me so normal. Yeah. Well, And besides you, I did, today I'm going to try to put the beat down on you, and I know what's probably going to happen, and I'm going to probably get my ass kicked.
Starting point is 00:30:37 We were partners last time. I love talking shit. And that didn't work out too well. I do love talking shit. I try to talk shit, even though a lot of times it doesn't work out very well. I'm harder I found, too, as a guy who loves to talk shit. As you get a shit. Oh, you still got to hit them.
Starting point is 00:30:59 You got to do what you're at. Wait when you're like, I'm about to knock you out and you can't really throw a punch. That's when you talk more shit. See? Because that makes you feel better. You don't have to play great. You just have to make them play shitty. That's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Yeah, you got to try to get into that dome, you know, and that's the hard part. And you can't get into Colts Dome for some reason. I don't know if it's just because it doesn't have anything in there. Or if it's just full. And, you know, you just can't get in there. Well, in our game, obviously, the goat is Tiger Woods. I mean, that's who we grew up watching. And I know your son, Taylor, he plays on the PJ Tour, who I don't know if I want to say the privilege of caddying for him at Phoenix Open last year.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But tell us a little about Tiger coming out here, and he actually hung out with Taylor at a very young age. Yeah, so Tiger, Tiger, MJ, I've seen him pretty much everybody. But when Tiger was young, he came out here, and I still remember the driving range. We still had kind of the trees on the driving range, which was cool. and Tiger would go out there. And the reason he'd come out is because he could get away from all the hoopla. I mean, he's a superstar. So he couldn't go anywhere without anybody attacking him.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So the cool part about when he came out here, he could kind of come out here and get away from that. And I think that's so cool. Like our short game and everything else is cool. But I think those guys come out just so they can have a couple hours of meantime. And so Tiger's been coming out for years. And we used to go out and watch him on the range from afar. We'd never bug him. And I think that's what I've always tried to instill in the staff and everything.
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's like, just stay away from them. They're here to have a good time. Just if they talk to you, they can talk to you. If you want to talk to them a little bit and they want to talk to you back, that's fine. But just kind of let them have their time because, you know, they're always getting bugged. But I think Taylor, as a golfer and watching me, I mean, And Tiger was his idol. He'd come out, oh, it's Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Tiger Wood, you know, when they're young, 10, 11 years old. And that's a huge thing as kids get older. And Taylor's had the privilege of being out here. Not a lot of kids get to see this. And so I'm going to go ahead and say it. You know, it's helped him make it on to it for sure. Yeah, he's like desensitized. There's nothing that's like deer in the headlights for him ever.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And I'm like, it's, it is a privilege. And I'm not going to take that away from anything. It's something I've done. And I've always made him part of that. Just like my daughter as well. I used to bring them out on Sundays or whatever, and we'd hang out here, take pictures, go play golf, go fishing. You wouldn't let her use my clubs, though.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Well, they might not be long enough, you know. Oh, here we go. Yeah. So the first time his daughter, the first time I ever met his daughter, she walks in, and she's awesome. I never met her before at all this. And she wanted to go hit some balls. I was like, oh, you can use my clubs.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And he goes, McKenzie, you stay the hell away from that guy right there. Great piece of advice, by the way. I don't have a lot of rules, but this is one of them. My daughter's great, and I've tried to keep her away from everybody in this town. That may be the only hiccup in this town is if you have a daughter and you better pay attention. Yours looks like you, but different. Yeah, a lot different, a lot different. I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:15 I think my wife did a pretty good job there. Yeah, thank God for Michael. It might not be mine, but she did a hell of a job. That's all right, yeah. Yeah, same last name. Might not be yours. You didn't get with your boy, too, by the way. Taylor's a stud.
Starting point is 00:34:29 He's awesome. When did you know, Taylor? I mean, he was running around here. I know he didn't get into golf until, like, a little bit later, though, right? He liked all the other sports before. But obviously, being out here every day, I think you kind of gravitate towards it, I would think. So I got a great story about Taylor, and he was, I'll go ahead and tell it real fast. So we had a guy come out.
Starting point is 00:34:47 He used to come out all the time. It was a Sunday. Didn't even know he's going to be here. He was a big comp player. And he was friends with our. assistant back then and he's like hey you and Taylor out here let's go play the back now and we'll play a scramble $50 a hole I'm like okay at the time Taylor could give rats ass about golf he was a baseball and football and everything
Starting point is 00:35:09 else and we went out there and we were playing $50 carryovers and we got to 18 and we were just he was 11 years old and I still remember it because I know this is what turned him around to golf it's amazing how money does it but we get 18 and we got like a 15 footer. We're trying to get him to win. We don't care about the money or whatever. And he said, all right, Taylor, get up and hit this putt and make, make some money. And he gets up and he makes this putt and runs around the green like, what's his name did when he went? Hey, Earl Irwin. And just was going crazy. And the guy comes out and hands him the money at the end and he takes all the money. And from that point on, mom, take me to the golf course.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Mom, take me the golf course. And it was over. All the other sports were over. And he was a fantastic baseball player at the time. And I'm like, yeah, he's going to play baseball. But after that day, he gave a rat's ass about. Yeah, they ended out cash after baseball games. They're 11 years old.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I think it was adrenaline. Unless you're from the Dominican. Yeah, he got handed money. Right. And then you're also not 11. You're 19 playing with the 11-year-olds. By the way, the man can roll the rock. I don't want to, like.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I still don't know. Who's better you or him in putting? Where did he get that from? The putting. Is that another one of those? Can Mike a putt? Who? Can your wife putt?
Starting point is 00:36:33 My wife don't play golf. So where did he get it? I mean, the guy's number one on tour this year in strokes gained putting. It's scary. I mean, he can, there's a lot of wagers out there that people want to get done about some of the best players in the world playing Taylor Montgomery out here. And there's not many that can beat that man around here. By the way, back in your day,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I heard, not many could beat you. Well, I could never putt. So you have to be able to putt in this game. If Taylor learns how to hit his driver, he's going to be scary. Because, I mean, I've watched good putters. I've watched you. I've watched Warren Scooter my teammate, which was unbelievable. The old scooter.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And then Chris Riley. Chris Riley was sick at the time. I mean, so sick when he was in his prime. But watching you for 10 years, just roll the roll. Rock, I'm like, is this the way you really have to putt to play this game? I mean, I would have quit a long time ago. Have you seen me hit it?
Starting point is 00:37:32 I had to put to do anything. It doesn't matter. You hit it dead straight. You hit it on a golf course, but it's just scary how you can go day after day with never three putting or missing under six feet. And that's kind of what Taylor is. I watch you do it for 20 straight time. Do you want to tell them a story about
Starting point is 00:37:48 number nine right over here? No, because I'll throw my clubs in the lake right now. Again? Yeah. How many clubs he donated out here? Hold on. We're going to, oh, stop. We're going to get to that. Hold the phone real quick.
Starting point is 00:37:59 There's got to be a good, did you? He had me one day he thought on number nine, and then I made about a, what, 80 footer? And I was talking shit. On nine? Yeah, 80? The pin was all the way back and I was on the front edge. Good approach. Also a nice spot.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So was I one up? I think you're a one-up. I think I was one-up. I hit it in there 15 feet. The toughest pin on the green. He's on the very front edge, and I think it's more than 50. this thing's like 80 at least, maybe 90. And I'm like, I got your ass finally.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'm going to whoop your ass finally. And he hits his putt in halfway there. He starts walking towards it. And I'm like, no way. No way. I still remember it's like it was yesterday. And I mean, it fell in perfect. And he just looked at me.
Starting point is 00:38:45 And of course, I get up and miss, break even on the front. And I think I got killed on the back. because I just, I can't handle it. Got it in that dome. Can't handle it? There's not much to get in this dome. This dome's easy to get into because it's pretty... Yeah, open door policy.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Monty's dope. Let's get some stories going about this place. I think people will, give me the best, it doesn't have to be the course record, the best round you've witnessed. Taylor has the course record. Yeah, Taylor's got it. But there could be a day where it was blowing 100 or something.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Well, I'm telling you, Taylor played awesome that day. It could have probably shot in the 50s. but we had a UNOV player right before overseeing. I can't remember what year it was, and I won't put out any names, but literally we didn't mow the rough, and it was all Bermuda, and you hit it in the rough, and it was 50-50, you found your ball. So they're out here qualifying. And I think the next best score was 75,
Starting point is 00:39:46 and this kid shot 62. Oh. And so when I was out there, and I'm like, That has to be the best round, I think, probably ever. Had to be Ryan. Was it? No, he's trying to make an on tour right now. I don't want to mention many names.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But he shot 62, and all the players and coaches came in and said, there's no way anybody could have shot that, not even close that day. And I was like, wow, that's pretty remarkable. So that's probably the best round. I've seen a lot of good rounds, but as hard as this golf course, if you're, you know, as well as I do, the golf course is hard. if the greens are really fast and firm and there's a little bit of wind. But if there's no wind, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:27 If there's no wind, you can eat it up. Because there's a lot of, like, feeder pins. Exactly. What they shoot 20-under- here? I called Coker. Cotech shot 20-under, didn't he? Yeah. And we set that up very difficult.
Starting point is 00:40:37 The problem with that week is we, the golf, the greens and the fairways were running about the same, you know, they're probably running a 14th. Coch-crack hit wedge in a game. Yeah, so. Yeah, that was crazy. You could always make the golf course harder by making it longer, but the thing is that there was not a breath of wind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So if someone's listening right now and they want to come play Shadow Creek, how do they do it? It's real easy. I mean, it's very difficult to get a tea time. It's like going anywhere, a nice golf course in the country. But we've got our golf reservations. You can get online, find those numbers. Or you can, if you're a gambler, you can go down and get a host at the casino. But Sunday, basically the weekends are reserved for comp players only.
Starting point is 00:41:20 so you have to have a host. They're the only ones that really can make the reservation for you if you're a cop player, which means you've got to have a credit line and gamble. And we'll give you out those host names here shortly. We'll give out a lot of, but Sunday through Thursday, not every Sunday, but some Sundays we open up, but Monday through Thursday you can basically call and if you stay at one of the MGM properties minus New York, New York, Excalibur and Luxor. There you go.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, there you go. You got a match. We got a match coming up here. December 17th. December 17th. December 17th. Hopefully it's not snowing. We got Rory.
Starting point is 00:41:58 We got some dogs coming out. Roy and Scottie versus Brooks and Bryson. How many people get to be on property for that? And do you like hosting these like kind of spectacle events? Yeah, they're okay. I just wish it was a different time of year because I don't think anybody realizes it's going to be cold. It's going to be cold. It's going to be cold.
Starting point is 00:42:16 It's okay. I mean, and the cool part is we've never done. done it. I know they wanted to do the match with Phil and Tiger under the lights, but it's going to be under the lights. So it's going to be very unique out here. How, like how many holes will be under the lights? All 18. The whole time. Well, there you go, folks. Breaking news right there. We're going to have under the lights. It's like the final three, which is a sick of those. No, unless they change it, which there's still time. But at the, at this point, I'm hearing, well, I've been out there with them. One through 18, they're going to light the range up as well.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And you probably won't need the lights until they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, hit three or four, but if they tee off at four o'clock. And they're teeing them off at four. It gets dark at 4.30 here. Yeah, it gets dark before. They're going to be out there until eight, nine o'clock at night here. It'll be cool. I hope it's not freezing freezing.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I hope not either. To see this place under the lights and just kind of a, you know, little one-off event like that. Nine o'clock's past Scotty's bedtime. Uh-oh. Well, you might want to bet the other way then. That's 11 Dallas time. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:43:13 It's true. Yeah. Good math, by the way. Well, no matter. It's just time zone stuff. Yeah. No matter what, it's going to be cool. because you got the four of the best players on the tour.
Starting point is 00:43:23 That is a fact. And you got Bryson, who's one of the best entertainers in the world. It's going to be really cool to watch. But coming out here, as long as I have, I've gotten a chance to meet quite a few interesting characters. A lot of poker players. Like yourself? Yes, yes. A lot of professional gamblers that obviously like the action.
Starting point is 00:43:38 They are shit at golf. But they love the action. Take us through some of those guys. Because, like, I've heard about matches with Phil Ivy and Michael Jordan, where it gets into some uncomfortable numbers. And Phil is not a very good golfer. David Benamine, who I've had the chance to play with quite a few times. These guys are crazy. Well, those were some of my and our staff and everybody in town's greatest times
Starting point is 00:44:02 because back then you had full tilt poker, all of them coming out. I mean, money was, it was water. So they didn't care about it. So they were just throwing it around in town. And a lot of people in the service industry had a great time during those. times but Phil feels a feel was awesome and my greatest story I'll tell it how it is well I kind of gave it up I wasn't gonna name names but you know I show up in a parking lot one night there one it's probably noon and this I hear this hot rod
Starting point is 00:44:38 coming down our main road and I'm like I wonder who this might be the boss or somebody comes around this gray exotic car and I'm like I was with Taylor and I said let's see who this is, Taylor. And a guy pulls in and, you know, the doors pop up like a Lambeau and whatever. And Phil pops out. So I'll just go ahead and name Phil. And I said, Phil, what's going on? What are you doing on here?
Starting point is 00:45:05 He goes, ah, I'm, I'll go ahead and name names because it doesn't matter. No. Because it was such a cool story. Well, him and Lingren, David, Lingren were friends. And they've been playing a little bit trying to get better. And I said, nice car. And he's like, yeah. Hold on real quick.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Is it David Lindgren or Eric Lendergan? Eric. Eric. So it's Eric. So Eric Ling gets out or they had been playing a lot and I didn't know. But he gets out and I'm like, man, nice car. I'm like, when the hell did you get down? He goes, well, I just went down and bought it this morning.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I said, shit. I said, how much something like that cost? He goes, I had just spent like $7.50. He goes, but it cost me anything. He goes, I beat Lingering last night for, well, I don't even want to get into the last. But more than the car. And he goes, but I just wanted to, we're playing again today,
Starting point is 00:45:54 and I just wanted to come out and show him what I bought with his money. Wouldn't that be so nice? And back then it was brand new Mercedes McLaren. Yeah. So I was like, oh my goodness. That'd be so nice. It's just pleased to dude for whatever and just show up the next day, playing against him again.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah. And like, hey, thanks for the whip. I'll take the story a little farther. Okay, go, go. Oh, yes. So he throws the keys at Taylor. He goes, take a first pin, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I'm like, Taylor's 11 years old. I'm like, he's not driving that thing. I said, do you care if I take it for a spin? He goes, do whatever you want, Monty. So back then, our side road over there, Washburn, there was nothing there. We had no commercial anything. So I'm like, all right, Taylor, let's go. So this thing had, I think, 74 miles on it.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I had it going 150 down this side street over here. It was the coolest thing, and I pulled it in. It sounded like a spaceship. You know. He's a beauty. He's a beauty. I pulled it right back in. Nothing ever happened, and there he went on.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I was at, uh, we're at a nightclub here in Vegas. It was an, it was an aria. And he was at the table next to us. I was with Darren Woolard, who used to caddy out here. And him and this other unnamed person were trying to flex and be the guy. So Phil gets, you know, whatever, 20 bottles of champagne. Well, and this guy gets 21 bottles and this guy gets 22. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I mean, the way they used to. run back in the day. And drank at all, too. Hell yeah. Did you get in the mix? I didn't really. Did you buy 23? I don't know the extra drink.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I was like, yes, here's 100. Yeah. We'll call it even. And I remember going down there once in a while. Phil loves sake. So he'd sit at the dice table. And I mean, by the time, I tried to stay out of trouble,
Starting point is 00:47:40 but there was a lot of guys there and we'd hang out and watch because it was literally entertaining watching what these guys did, what they gambled and how they gambled and it's so interesting. Those are stories that you'll never forget. And most people don't get to see that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And it's so interesting and scary at the same time to watch it. And you feel sorry for them and then you're happy for them. And then you feel sorry for them. And you're like at the end, they don't give a shit. No, I'll never forget. It's fucks up your perspective. Yeah, it's weird. That money, like, it's just a chip, but it's like, that's a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:48:16 That's why I call this place. That's why I call Vegas fantasy. It really is. I mean, as a, you know, 21, 22-year-old, like, I was a huge. That's when poker was booming Chris Moneymaker, not Ben Lamb. Let's get that straight real quick. Not Ben Lame. Does Ben still play poker?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Apparently he does. He thinks he does. I only is as good as he used to be, by the way. But anyways, I mean, obviously, a huge Phil Ivy fan. Yeah. And I remember, obviously, seeing him out here, and I never really knew him at all. And I was walking through Belagio one day, and it was like 6 p.m. Like, it wasn't late or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And there's Phil. And he's got all the stack of white chips three feet long. and I don't know what they are. And all of a sudden I look and they're $5,000 chips. And I'm like, this dude's got over a half million sitting in front of him. And I'm just sitting there watching. He goes, hey, man. He goes, if you're going to sit here, he's like, you got to play.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And I'm like, oh, dear God. I was like, Phil, I think I'm going to leave. I'm actually going to play. So hold on. I got another real quick Phil Ivy story. We had all the time in the world. So he came out one time and all of a sudden he comes up to us and goes, hey, I lost my chips. And we're like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:49:18 What do you mean? He goes, yeah, I had like 350,000 chips. I don't know where I put them. I can't find them. And I think I put them in my locker. So obviously, all of a sudden, entire staff, we're on the golf course. We're looking in his car. We're looking in his locker.
Starting point is 00:49:34 We're looking everywhere, right? Can't find him. It goes all day long. He comes in, he doesn't give a shit. He comes in, you find my chips? I'm like, sorry, bud. And we went out there every five, six holes. We can't find them.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Can't find them. He goes, well, here's something. somewhere just keep looking so he comes in we spent six hours he's out here that day trying to look for these ship can't find him he goes out don't worry about it he goes to put his shoes on by his locker and they're in his freaking shoes yeah the whole hundred thousand dollars shoes and a couple a couple blacks and whatever but he left him in his damn shoes that it ever happened to you just like where did i leave that three-fitty yeah i swore it was right here oh well can you believe that shit I'll make some more.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I'm just going to leave $350,000 in my shoe. No big deal. In the middle of the locker room. I'll tell you going, I don't know if I've actually shared this with you, but I play the member guests a few years out here with a, I'm not going to name him because he'll get too excited because I know he listens to the show. But we get paired. We know he's on right now. We get paired with MJ and Ben Herman.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Okay. Special. And this guy, you know, he's acting all fucking cock of the walk and all this. Marks his ball with a $25,000 chip. So MJ sees it. He's like, cute. throws a little $100,000 chip. behind his ball.
Starting point is 00:50:49 He goes, cute. You know, whatever your name is. And I go, him, you keep throwing them $100,000 chips behind your ball. I'm going to take one. He goes, that's fine, fat boy. I got 17 more. I'm in the room. I was like, this doesn't happen anywhere else.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Cool. So I'm actually going to take it, though. I'm like, so does that mean I can take it? You said it's cool. He would have never known. Oh, he would have never known. That's cool, fat boy. That's cool, fat boy.
Starting point is 00:51:13 Maybe I had 16. By the way, who's, like, I know who it is. But trying to, like, you're going to flag. on Michael, on Jordan, you know what I mean? Like, that's the wrong guy. Like, you just sit down with Bezos and be like, ah, let me tell you by my money. This is Vegas.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Everybody tries to do that. That's why those lights are so bright down there, buddy. Who got the biggest hammer? We were pulling in one day in the limo, and MJ was on four, the par three right here. So I saw, limo, I was like, stop. So I get out. I was like, him.
Starting point is 00:51:41 He turns around, he's getting ready to hit a shot, and he chunks these shit of it. He goes, that was my colt, no shot. Fat of shit. I was like, believe it or not, I actually liked it. I was like, never in my day that I think I'd get hated on by Michael Jordan. No, that's a feather in your cap. Yeah, that's incredible.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's a feather in your cap. Well, as you know as well as I do, that guy is, he's like you. He's very witty and, I mean, quick. You can't talk shit to him. You can't. You know Michael Jordan. He's a lot like Colt. I think Dr.
Starting point is 00:52:09 We know you're not. No, but I got to give that to Colt. Colt is very witty and quick, and it pisses me off. and that's that's why I know and I'm like I'm just going to shut up because I can't I can't beat I can't over talk cold but you still try yeah but you still try anymore I used to try it I just try to shut up we're out here with uh during one of those events one time and there's a big white tent right here we had DJ and everything going and they play that Drake song and it says Jordan game six and he looks right and he goes that's right motherfucker I was like yeah can't really flex on that anymore
Starting point is 00:52:46 Drake's rapping about you. That's pretty sick. Yeah. I mean, just the cool stories out here. I mean, you and I and Sleaves could sit out here for the next week and have some drinks and tell so many stories. I mean, it's been a... It's a special place, man. It's one of the most special places.
Starting point is 00:53:07 For a guy like you who's been here for your whole lot, even in college you were out here, like, does it... When you go other places, is there any place that can kind of, like, impress you or you just get... I don't, spoil is not the right word, but you're like, you know what the coolest place looks like. Well, I think. It's hard for something else to stand out. I think what makes this place so cool, too, it's just non-pretentious, you know? I mean, you can come out here. Nobody's going to scream at you for wearing your hat or talking on your phone or we try to keep this.
Starting point is 00:53:36 We try to keep the kind of the same, I don't know, just kind of the. Keep it fun. The same thing is very. It's kind of the same theme, you know? No one cares who you are either. Yeah, it's to get away from everyday life. Well, if you come out here and you've got a group of guys that are staying at the hotel that just went to a concert that are having some fun that are probably not doing what they normally do in their real life and they come out here and you go, hey, you can't wear your hat like that or you can't do this, you just kill all the whole thing. So even though this is a very special place and it's very traditional and you look at you look at the whole thing, you look.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Cat of Tat. We try to keep it to where it's the same theme as when you're down at the hotel. And everyone that shows up here is the best day of the year. For every single person and stuff. As soon as they walk in there, it's like, this is their best day of the year. So they're all here to just have that. And I think. And you know,
Starting point is 00:54:32 This is Fernie's 100th's best day of the year. Oh. Because he only comes here 100 times a year. Yeah, I'll take the over. But if you look at it, if you look at Discoveryland or even MJ, I think a lot of, and I'm not, I'm not going to come out and say it, but I think a lot of their courses were based off shadow. You know, golf it 20 years ago, it was all stickler.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I mean, you couldn't do anything. You walked in and you were scared to death to do anything. And I think that's where golf has changed. Now it's becoming more of a fun sport. Kids are liking it. Adults are liking it. Hey, you know what? I want to walk in with my hat backwards and have a cocktail or, you know, not be scared.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You shouldn't be scared when you go play a round of golf. I say that all the time. And I give this place credit, the Discoveryland places. I'm like, you're a successful businessman. You bust your ass five, six days a week, suit and tie and all this. You go play golf? You just want to relax. Have a good time.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And that's what it should be. I agree. And I think, like I said, I'm not saying anything about discovery. I don't know what there is, but their game plan has worked. Yes, 100%. It's all morphing that way. Like, it's kind of going through that. You've got the courses now.
Starting point is 00:55:44 You can play music. Yeah. the lights on, you know, these par three courses. Yeah, there's certain places that do uphold the tradition. And that's great. Yeah, that is fine. Keep it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 These old northeast courses that are the best. I'm like, yeah, dude, I want that experience when I go to that. But I don't want it to be like this. But then also it's the places that aren't those spots, aren't those venues that try to be that same way. I'm like, you're taking yourself a little too seriously. Well, and that's the thing about, it's tough about my job because, you know, I run in and I got great, MGM is awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And I've went through some different. bosses over the last few years but is trying to explain that theme on and it's worked and they've they've allowed it but one of these days that might change you just never know but I think you got to keep this place fun and if if you keep golf fun like Vegas is fun so just keep it fun yeah I don't really like it that much sometimes it can't be fun yeah you go crazy it ain't fun but you know you got to keep it fun and that's what we try to do on it's the best And you've done it for a long time. And please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 As long as you have a say in this place, please don't change it because it is heaven on earth. I tell everyone, if I have one day left in my life to play golf, it's right here at this place. And I 100% mean that. This is my favorite. I hate to give you credit. But it is my favorite place in the world. I get so excited every time the car pulls up and we're headed to Shadow Creek. Well, look at you.
Starting point is 00:57:05 You're a working man now, you know, and you're playing golf. You have to get away from what you're doing, too, once in a while. and this is a place where you can come out and be the old coat nosed. You know what I mean? Don't really talk. Be quiet. Have a few drinks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Read the paper. I hope today you're like that. Buddy. Because that means I'm whooping your ass. What's the game? Let's set the table right now. So we play. On the indie side, what is it?
Starting point is 00:57:30 A few weeks ago, I was here. We don't play for much. Hold on. We don't play. It's not going about the units. I'm talking about the stroke. One aside. Now, it used to be like two aside.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And it's not enough. One aside. First off, we got absolutely. Are we going, are we, we're playing back, yeah? Oh, we normally play one-up. Because, fuck. That changes things. Because Colt doesn't have enough clubs in the bag if we go out tips.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Anyways, I thought it was more because of the lamb and fucking crypto Joe, that scumbag. The lamb is good. We can be looking for a lot today. We were actually partners for the first time. Last time we played here. It was weird. We were so nice to each other. We got along great.
Starting point is 00:58:04 We both played fantastic and we got our asses whipped. It sucks. I never seen anything like it. It was, it was literally. I don't know. There was, there had to be a,
Starting point is 00:58:15 it wasn't great. We lost, we lost on the first team. We both shot 67 gross. He shot 65 net and we lost. Yeah. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:58:24 we lost five ways. Yeah. Three in one and three and one. Yeah. Feels like some legitimate handicapsed. Yeah, it happens. Hey, but you know what? We're back.
Starting point is 00:58:33 We're going to try it again. Yeah. And by the way, those guys are guests here. So we can also, we, I mean, and Moni, cannot let them on the
Starting point is 00:58:40 property. Are they, I don't think they're loud out here anymore, are they? Well, one of them is because I know he's going to give it all back. Oh, yeah. So we got to let him out? Okay. My member guest partner at Southern Highlands, he's, he's always welcome. I'm not scared to him. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. All right, let's get to the E-9. Let's have a little fun right here with Montreal. Let's go, here we go. No, it's nothing bad. We asked this to everyone. You can be anyone else for a day in your life, other than Sleez and I. Who would you be? one day
Starting point is 00:59:10 you put me on the spot if I could be anybody does it have to be a person well I mean are you gonna be an animal I'd love to be an animal can I be a car would be a car
Starting point is 00:59:24 I'd love to be an eagle but if I had to be a person if I had I could fly all over the place I mean but if I had to be a person that's actually the best answer we've ever had
Starting point is 00:59:35 an eagle that's a good answer man I want to fly I love fly You know what? Can I have two? Sure. I'd love to be a F-22 pilot.
Starting point is 00:59:47 If I could go back to doing that. I think that's the coolest thing on the planet is being able to go of 2,000, 3,000 miles an hour. You like to be Tom Cruise. You like to be Maverick. Oh, my God, that would be ideal. What do you think your call sign would be? I don't want to say.
Starting point is 01:00:06 No, he already knows it. You've thought about that. You want to be an eagle and an other? What is it? What's on the helmet? No, no. I'm not getting into that. Viper.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I'm not getting into that. No, no. I'd have to think about that. Top Guns is my favorite movie of all time, by the way. Yeah, I think that's kind of why I wanted it ever since age 14. Okay, hold on. We're going to go back to an oldie that we used to ask everyone because I always love this. If there was a movie made about your life, which would be rather entertaining, and you could also write a book.
Starting point is 01:00:31 They would never do that. If you could write. Who would play you in a movie? Oh, Jesus. Gary Woodland said Denzo, Washington. I like this question. It would have to be some. Redneck because listen to my voice.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Larry the cable guy. Oh, God, I love Larry. That'd be good, too. I love Larry. He was a golfer, too. Oh, he's out here all the time. Yeah, he's a believable golf swing if they got to film some golf shit. He's my favorite guy. I hate to say it, but when I sit down and listen to him, I can just laugh.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I'll watch the same shit over and over and keep laughing. Him and Ron White. Ron is awesome, too. And Ron's going to be out, I think, at a couple weeks. Ron's awesome But I heard he quit drinking So I want to see you I feel's changing
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah But Uh I Say someone really attractive For me Shit I don't know
Starting point is 01:01:28 You know You know you put me on the spot I feel like Larry's right in the mix Larry can get the dark The hair dyed dark I don't have a whole lot of ego So I'm not going to name a good looking stud You kind of sound the same too
Starting point is 01:01:39 Okay on, and it's like anyway. Let's move on. Yeah, move on. I don't know what you think. We'll get your call sign and your actor a little bit later. Sorry to make you think off the top of the head like this. Yeah, I don't want to have too much ego.
Starting point is 01:01:49 I'm not an ego maniac guy. All right, here's the easy one for you. Which group of people are the worst golf gamblers? Okay. Golfers, pro golfers, other athletes from other sports, actors and entertainers or card players? Who's the worst? The worst gamblers?
Starting point is 01:02:05 Yeah, who would you love to have a money game with the most? On the golf? Golf gamblers? Are you kidding me? It's actors and entertainers. Why? Because they're Hollywood handicapped? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Listen, I'm going to be transparent here. Most of them are tight as hell. You know that. They ain't going to give up any money. So I'll just put it out there right now. They like their money. So, I mean, I don't ever see them gamble much. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:31 All right. Next one, I'm going to give you an option. Do you want me to start you off with a softball or do you want me to start you off? Hit me with whatever you got, but... Okay. What hit... First off, I mentioned the staff earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 You got a legendary staff out here. Buff, Mikey, Jimmy's old ass, Rhonda, L.J. Curtis, all the people inside. Rhonda's borderline famous now. And I've... Oh, she's famous. I'm going to take a little credit. I've helped with that. The Ronda Rita is legendary.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. Okay? So what hits harder? The third Ronda Rita or the Rock Wall on 13 here at Shadow Creek? Oh, funny shit, aren't you? Funny shit. Well, let's say I've experienced... Funny shit.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I've experienced both. I've experienced both, but I tell you what feels better, and that's the third margarita. The Rondarita. The Rondarita. Tell us about that rock wall. That rock wall is very tall, and balls bounced pretty hard off of it. I thought it was kind of like fake. It's not fake.
Starting point is 01:03:30 You took one to the dome recently. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't pretty. And a couple more clubs found the lake after that, because I went on a. tie rate and it wasn't real pretty and I kind of looked a little interesting after that too you look right now though yeah yeah it's killed up nice thanks but perfect beautiful as ever speaking of that I'm so sad Ron is not here today yeah she's coming back she had a little she had a little incident out a couple weeks ago but I wanted her to make a little celebrity appearance right here I know well we should call her now come out just to see you she's busy she got her
Starting point is 01:04:04 she's right Ronda over 7-11 all these stores everywhere yeah she's a little hustler Couple guys come out and fill in love with Rhonda. I mean, Rhonda's a great. It's probably the most, Rhonda's definitely the most popular person at Shadow Creek. You're 100s like fame. You guys can look at me or whatever, but Rhonda is the queen of Shadows. First off, you're not even in the ballpark.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I know, okay, let's get that straight. I'm sitting out here with you and I feel like I'm privileged, you know. That's because the other seven employees turned us down. Oh, that's why. We tried to get Rhonda and Buffalo. Buffalo is too busy. Buffalo is busy. He said you're working his ass.
Starting point is 01:04:39 By the way, Rhonda, I mean, she is a same. Y'all could get together and write a book that could sell nine billion copies. It would make Billy Walters' book look like nothing. We'd probably get killed. Just change names. Hey, but when you're getting old and it's almost on the way out anyway, maybe we do it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, might as well live a little.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, if I ever, you know, come down with some kind of illness, I'll write this book. I won't care of then, right? So you've already started it. Someone else will write it, but you'll tell. Let's put it this way. You'll tell them the words and then they'll write them. Every day I yell at myself for not at least, writing in a journal something that happened every day because I look back now and I'm like what an
Starting point is 01:05:14 idiot are you this dumb not writing shit down yeah you I mean it would be it would be special I mean I walked back in your office earlier and I never really like paid attention to the wall of photos you have it's special and I actually even made the wall you made the wall I don't know how but it was a funny picture yeah you might have got you a gift but actually did you pay me for that probably I don't know yeah we'll see today we're playing even right Perfect. Sold. Oh, straight up.
Starting point is 01:05:41 We're playing. Next question. All right, I need this in terms of percentages, okay? And the percentages need to add up to 100%. You feel me? You with me? I'll try to add up. I did go to UNLV, so I might be offered.
Starting point is 01:05:51 That's why I wanted to make it very clear. All right, your son Taylor on the PGA tour. Do you think that is more a testament to his talent and work ethic or to him having Monty Montgomery DNA? What percent? It's not even close. It's his work ethic. To have me, he'd probably, he'd probably be right there with Sheffler.
Starting point is 01:06:09 if he didn't have me. That's a good dad. Yep, that's right where he'd be. You fucked him. You absolutely makes total sense. No, I didn't screw him, but, you know, as a parent, sometimes you get on him too much. And his work ethic is scary. Like I said, I mean, the reason he's such a good putter is he does the right thing when he
Starting point is 01:06:33 puts, you know, and he chips. It does the same thing. When he gets on the range and hits the ball, it's different. So that's where he and I. kind of collide because I've always been able to hit the ball and not be able to putt. Well, he weren't exactly the opposite. You know, he struggles ball striking
Starting point is 01:06:48 and is a phenom when it comes to putting. And it's frightening. It's like watching Colt putt. I still think Colt's better putter when he was in his prime because I think he made more long putts. I mean, this some bitch right here, he'll scare you on a 40-footer. I'm like, and it's turning 20 feet downhill, right to the left,
Starting point is 01:07:07 and you're like, this would be automatic. three put for me and I'm sitting there going this some bitch might make it and he does and and taylor's the same way and and you know guys on tour got to look at him and go wow this is ridiculous but oh they do yeah they do I witnessed it firsthand when I caddied for him I'm I mean he hit it all over the map yeah and he I mean you get him on the green just get him on the green and there's a good chance he's going to make it it is it's special how he puts it there's no doubt I hate to give him credit yeah I mean but you know like giving credit hmm you're like I'm not giving him credit.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Just not to Monty or Taylor. That's a scary thing. You've seen him hit it good. And when he hits a good, he's right there. So all he's got to do is hit it. He didn't even have to hit it that good. He just got to be 50% strokes. He was hitting it nice when he first came out.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Don't take penalty strokes. Don't take penalty strokes. Okay. I heard his driver loft changed. Like, he's leaning it way more. Well, he started moving left and then backing up. I mean, he's, but let's see. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Okay. Well, while we're on top of it. It leads nice into my next. Next question. Who hates the left side more? Republicans or Taylor Montgomery off the tea? Oh, Jesus. Well, I hate to tell you this, but he's been fine.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Taylor's been fine on the left a lot later. Oh, no. When I was with him, it was all right. Yeah, but he's decided to do a little marching. Okay. Yeah, he's got into the military little right left, you know. You know, I love him to death, and I wouldn't caddy for just anyone. But I'll never forget, we're playing on, he was in 12th place going into Sunday.
Starting point is 01:08:38 Oh, I know. last round and I texted you and I'm like I think he's got it because like he hit some good t shots coming down the stretch and the last round I was like I think he's got it holy shit we go into the last round and he is four over par through 11 holes he's like colt I'm not even playing bad I go Taylor you took two unplayables and you're a ball in the water it ain't great it's just bad breaks dude bad breaks a good chance this course is just tell you what happens if he finds the golf course all he's got to just find it I put in more steps that week that I think I have in in years of playing on tour. I saw some places I've never seen before. Well, I remember the TV coverage and
Starting point is 01:09:13 hell, I think you were playing a different hole. I don't know how many times. A few times. Yeah. I was like, where in the hell those guys are? Lugging it around 33 in a day. It was cold, rainy, shitty. You see, even my old ass can lug around his big staff bag and you're out there with a carry bag. You should be, you should be a shame, bud. You should. First off, you birthed him. He's done nothing for me. So it doesn't matter. You still can't be. You can't be. You can't. You can't. You can't be a wuss and carry around a carry bag when you're supposed to carry around the staff bag. Okay. Show some heart, would you?
Starting point is 01:09:44 We went through his bag. He carried a big ass bag for two days. For two days? No, for four the first time. I got to carry for two, though. I had to carry 33 in a day. It was miserable. The cheeseburger you have every day is heavier.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I don't eat. You know I don't eat. I just drink. That's true. I went through his bag, by the way. He had 55 gloves in a Ziploc bag. Is that all? It's usually more than that.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I usually haven't pull him out before I'd say. That's how I know he's your son. Mackenzie, not quite sure. Yeah. That's true. Next one. Next one. Lay up, but I'm kind of genuinely interested because he's been in Vegas for a long time.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Give me the best show you've ever seen in Vegas. You know, I'm not much of a show person, but I probably, I had to go with my wife one night. Had to. Had to. That sucks. And we went to the Caesars, and, Tim, I can't even remember. remember her name. What's,
Starting point is 01:10:38 uh, she was performing there. I need a little more detail. She's a girl. She lived here. Yeah, phenomenal voice. Celine Dionne.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Celine Dion. There you go. That tells you how much I go out. Okay. I was a shit question. I can't remember fucking Celine Dion's name. Listen, the only thing I do is watch sports and,
Starting point is 01:10:56 and maybe go to a rock concert every once in a while. Okay. Like from the 80s or 90s. Other than that, I stay the hell out of the casinos. All right. Yeah. What is that chick's name with the real good voice?
Starting point is 01:11:07 I don't know. I've been around so many celebrities. I don't even, that's the thing. I'm used to it, I guess. The craps table is very thankful. You haven't been coming around lately, by the way. The craps table, are you kidding me? I own that.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I own the craps table. God, that is so Taylor. Are you kidding me? All right, next one. Most money you've ever lost on a hole in one. Oh, Jesus. Who put this up to you? Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Tell the story. So we're out playing, and I get suckered into it. There's five of us, and we're out there playing this had to be eight years ago. And, of course, I have, I'm out there with 15 to 25 handicappers. And they get on the first part three. We played the back first. We're on 13, and they're like, all right, everybody in for $10,000 hole in ones. I'm like, son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:11:58 You said no, at first. I said, no, I can't do it. I'm much better than you guys. I feel bad. They're like, no, you could get in. You could get in. We don't care. don't give a shit. I'm like, okay, I'm in. I said, you guys know I have a huge
Starting point is 01:12:11 advantage for hole-on-ones on par three. I said, we don't care. I'm like, all right, really, I was trying to get out of it because I didn't want to lose 10 grand. Because you know a hole-on-ones are anyway, sleeves. There's luck. Yeah. Yeah, they're luck. Oh, you don't have to do it at the hole at all. Well, you got to hit a bit. Yeah, there's some shady, like, nines that roll up there and go in and stuff. So we get up 13, nobody. 17, I hit it like a foot. I'm like, oh, damn. Nobody's even close. So we get up play number five nobody get up to number eight and i know he's probably listening and i'm gonna name names but he gets up and he goes man i feel good over this one and uh everybody's still in
Starting point is 01:12:50 and one guy goes i'm not i can't even get there i'm out can't get there on eight can't get there on eight it's 170 from the back team he'll be here today just to talk to you perfect but anyway i'm like oh shit and he's first to hit and he hits this shot and i mean it is Perfect. The pins back left and I'm like shit. I mean it's high. It's drawing. It's going right at the flag. It lands exactly Where it's we're hoping it wasn't going to land and all the sudden five seconds later it's just rolling rolling rolling rolling And all the sudden, doop it disappears and I about shit myself and so did everybody else and he made the hole in one and that night we went to dinner. I said, no, first of all, I said, hey, you know, as a pro, you know, you're going to give me a discount.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Give me a discount, you know? How about a discount? He's like, no discounts. No discounts. 10-k of guy, right? I had to go to the bank, grab a brick and take it to dinner. Hey, props to the guy who tapped out said I can't get there. Smartest dude a lot.
Starting point is 01:13:57 What a bitch he is, though, for tapping out. 170? I mean, he's playing the rest of the golf course, but he can't reach. He might be in if you can't get there. He also can't butt in his shorts. He has been the last day. No, you can't. Well, there's no buttons on any of his clothes.
Starting point is 01:14:13 I think I know the person we're talking about. There's no buttons on any of his clothes. There's no doubt. That's beautiful. Oh, that was a fun day, though. That's awesome. We still talk that shit all the time. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:22 That's good. 10K. What's do that? You want to do that today? It's a thousand hole in one? Sure. I don't care anymore. I haven't hit a green on a part three or a lot.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I don't care anymore. It gives the shit. We're all going to die. We're all going to die. Natalie thinks it's three. I'll tell you that. God. So is my wife.
Starting point is 01:14:36 God. Yeah. All right, Moncie, we're going to put out your phone number and your email for the listeners to book T-Times. Which way would you prefer that they contact you? What's the easiest? Don't call me, please. Yeah. Compt?
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah, just an email or phone? Send them to Colt because when he texts me, I never responded anyway, so there we go. That is absolutely not true, by the way. Anyways. All right, so we will put your cell phone out there, by the way. Let's go. You're going to make so many friends. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Two-part. question. Have you donated more clubs to the first tea program or this beautiful pond behind us here on 18? It's probably even. Yeah. Probably even? Yeah, it's probably even. I've donated a lot of clubs to the Southern Nevada Golf Association to the junior program and the men's program. So, yeah, who knows? I watched you try to throw your whole bag into the water on 18.
Starting point is 01:15:31 What do you mean try? I did. No, I didn't make it. So then you had to go down and kick them in. Oh, yeah, yeah. They still got in there, didn't it? They did get there. That's tough when you do that. It's like when guys try to throw their ball in the leg and it doesn't make it to the leg and they got to go get it.
Starting point is 01:15:42 So I'll tell you a quick one. That's tough, honestly. So we're playing, I'm on a nice run against him. He hadn't beat me. And I think he's one up with two to play. And we get to 17, the signature hole out here. And he flags it, but it's a windy day.
Starting point is 01:15:53 He flags it. Hits the rock, comes back in the water. He tomahawks his nine iron into the middle of the pond. Okay? So we're all square going to 18. Hits it down the fairway. Hits a four iron. hits the rocks, comes back in the pond,
Starting point is 01:16:07 goes and gets his entire bag, throws it in the pond, he goes, fuck you, I'm never playing your fat ass again. It always comes to the fat thing, which is unbelievable. A lot of fat hate. So he tries to throw his whole bag into the water,
Starting point is 01:16:17 doesn't all get there, he goes down, kicks him, got a great video, never playing you again. We finish on 18. He texts me about an hour later, he goes, what time you want to play tomorrow?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Why not? I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. Hey, you're a competitor. Yeah, you're a competitor. You're 0 and 10, but tomorrow are going to be one and a lot. 11. There we go. No, 11 of 1.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I was on his side. Yeah, I know. One and 11. It's so good. Is it my turn? You got two-parter? No, that was it. That was one part. Oh, okay. Two-part. I'm going to beat your ass today. Anyways. Probably. Um, Bonnie? You got any one? Hold on. I want to know this. Okay. This is a little bonus ball. No names.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Craziest situation you've seen on the 18th green right here at Shadow Creek. Hmm. Well, I've seen fights. Well, I didn't mean fights. I just meant like a crazy. Let's not even name it. But it's going to be easy because he was out one day, and he's probably the most competitive guy out there,
Starting point is 01:17:20 and he's the best quarterback ever to play the game. And he did a little chunky. He hit it over there to the left of the, so you've got to flip it over the creek there. Yeah? And a little chunky right into the pond. Oh, right into the creek. How'd that go over?
Starting point is 01:17:36 You know where his club ended up? The same place. Right next year. Right next year. And so that was a pretty cool day seeing that, you know. I mean, seeing how much even golf cares to a guy. I mean, obviously he's grown up in pretty competitive nature where it doesn't matter what he's doing. He wants to be the best.
Starting point is 01:17:57 But to see that, knowing he's the best quarterback of all time, in my opinion, I mean, that could change her pretty soon when my home's coming in. I guess you haven't heard of Doc Prescott. Cooper Rush would beg to differ. I'm going to throw a bonus one, and we can cut this out if you don't want to answer it because it's a question that a lot of people get asked. But because you've played with so many people,
Starting point is 01:18:21 dream for some. Oh, for sure. Number one, uh, uh, is my man, Arnie Palmer, so I grew up idolizing?
Starting point is 01:18:32 um obviously my dad he's passed away Taylor and uh if I had to put somebody else in there you got to pick someone that's easy money I feel like no I don't care about money when it comes to that if I had a dream for some one time well there's there's a difference a dream for some gambling and a dream for some just playing with them yeah I was more going with the gambling part but I would probably say my my last playing partner would be oh geez you put me on the spot again. It wouldn't be a golfer.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I don't think it'd be a president. Celine Dion. This girl that sings really are her. I was thinking Celine Dion. I'm going to put, you know what, to be nice, I'll put my daughter in there. Oh, wow. All caddy.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I'm a big family guy, so anybody knows me, I'm a big family guy. I love it. Monty. You are. It's been a pleasure. We've been wanting to do this for a long time. It's awesome to do it right here on 18 at Shadow Creek. And I mean this.
Starting point is 01:19:36 This has been so awesome to come out here and get to know you. All these great people at Shadow Creek, MGM. It is seriously so much fun to come out here. Well, it's always pleasure having you, Colt, you know that. We've known each other for a long time. And you're a great player, but a great human being too. And so much fun to have out here. And I know as far as what you do for Shadow Creek and even MGM properties,
Starting point is 01:20:00 they might not know it down there, but I do. And you bring a lot of people here into this town. And Samaslees, what you guys do. And just focusing on Shadow Creek this week. And it's not me. I don't care about me. But Shadow Creek is a very special place. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And it's a pleasure to be out here. And we thank you for taking time today, having us out there. And we're going to go. Let's go see our shakes out. $10,000 hole in one. With all that being said, I'm going to beat you out. I'm going to go fuck you up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And I have a feeling you're probably going to do that. So, but I don't know what, when you talk shit, you usually get your ass kick. So peace out. Sounds great. Let's do it. All right. That was Monty Montgomery, joining us on subpar. What a beauty he is.
Starting point is 01:20:42 And how about our backdrop right there on 18 Green if you're watching on YouTube? Yeah, if you watch the first match, that's where the closest to the pin took place between Tiger and Phil. And, dude, Monty's just, he's such the perfect guy for that job. I mean, it's one of the preeminent places in the world. You've said a million times your favorite play. If you had one round. I don't know that there's a better day in golf if you're talking quality of golf and the hang. But Monty just, he's just the perfect guy for that.
Starting point is 01:21:08 He's a good player. He could talk shit with the best of them, loves the action. He's just, like, he's become synonymous with Shadow Creek. And I was serious when I said, like, if you spend your whole life out here and this is where you've worked, like, where do you go that, like, impresses you? Not minute. There's really not. And if, like, we can't probably say it enough. If you haven't done it, it ain't cheap.
Starting point is 01:21:29 But it's worth doing. It's a bucket list type of deal for a lot of it's a destination. Like go there, figure it out, go get on that golf course. It's awesome. First off, it's Vegas. You can have a lot of fun anyways. Yeah, even if you can't get on, you have a good time. In the world, have yourself a Ronda Rita.
Starting point is 01:21:44 And it's one of those beautiful, well-manicured golf courses. You ever see a huge shout out to MGM for letting us come out there, putting us up at Aria. It was a hell of a time. Yeah, that's just as good as it gets. I'm actually to see what this thing looks like. It kind of broke news, I think, for both of us. Like the whole thing with Bryson and the, you know, the Rory match, all that, it's going to be under the lights, which it's going to be, it's going to look awesome. It could be Arctic for that thing.
Starting point is 01:22:09 It could be freezing balls at, what are they going to play at eight at night? Well, it's dark at the middle of December. I mean, it's going to be brisk. But, I mean, how about the day we had out there? It was, you can't ask for better conditions than what we had. I mean, it was 65 degrees sun and hardly any wind. And the place is always in mint condition. Ben Lamb just putting on a stripe show out there.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Yeah, turned into a little baby Hogan. out of nowhere. Never seen him hit grass, much less fairways over and over. From baby Huey to baby Hogan. Yeah, he's been working hard, you know? He's actually down in the Bahamas at a little special event down there. Big gambling match. Is that right?
Starting point is 01:22:42 Yeah. Good. He needs to get liquid. It's hurting right now. But man, that was a lot of fun. Once again, thanks for having us out there. Absolutely love that place. Let's get to some gambling since we're talking about Vegas.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I lost last week. I took the lions against the bears. What a fucking disaster that was. I mean, I think we handled everything right. Yeah, I liked the way we handled that when I had 34 seconds and didn't get up. I got off one play and the game ended with a timeout in my pocket. They were absolutely murdering. I was like, this is going to be the easiest win I've had all year.
Starting point is 01:23:16 And then the second half, Caleb Williams looked good. Bears look like kind of, I think what a lot of us thought they would look like in the second half. But it's one thing to botched into the game happens way more than you would think it would happen in the NFL. but to get up there and be like, have no second guessing of what I did. That's by the book, what I just did. It took 40 seconds to run one play on the fringe of field goal range and then games over. You know when Phil made triple in the last old wing foot? He's like, I'm such an idiot.
Starting point is 01:23:43 That's what he reflure should have done when he went to the press cars. What do you think, coach? Well, I'm an idiot. I totally messed that one up and that one's on me. Yeah, I don't know why saying I handled it the right way. I'm like, what do you think you're getting out of that? You think people are going to be like, oh, you know what? I thought he botched it, but he just said he handled it right.
Starting point is 01:23:58 So good job. Maybe it's all a plan. He's probably like, I know I'm going to get fired at the end of the year. I could just probably cut my losses right now and get that out of here. Except they let him give his Monday presser and then bagged his ass. Like, I'm getting ready for,
Starting point is 01:24:07 who are they playing this week? I'm getting ready for San Francisco. No, no, you're not. No, you're not. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So back your shit. This week, I am going to go. The lions are involved. But I'm going the other way. The lions are banged up. They are so good. But we were just sitting and doing our serious XM show.
Starting point is 01:24:22 McAfee showed the list of all the injured lions. Like, It's nuts. They got like 11 or 12 or something on defense. I don't know who's playing D-N for them. They're missing five of them. It's working still. They're still so good.
Starting point is 01:24:35 But they're going up against a very tough Green Bay Packers team. And I know it's at home, but the Packer catching three and a half. They're sneaky good. If Jordan Love doesn't just turn the ball over, I think they're going to be right in this game. Give me the Green Bay Packers plus three and a half. Okay. I feel like the pack are kind of like the sneaky good team that nobody was expecting to be that sweet at the start of the year. They're good.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Yeah. Legit good. All right, I'm going to stay cold. I had Kansas. I said they're dangerous. They've been fucking up everything in the Big 12 for a few weeks. Lost by 100. Baylor just smashed them.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Baylor was playing some good football right now, but that was a huge miss. So I'm going to just, I'm doing my job, though. I tell you, I'm cold. Just fade me and you'll come out on the right side and it's working. I'm going to take the local product here in the Big 12 championship game. Give me the Arizona State Sun Devils. Minus 2 and a hook. Who would have thought they'd be faked?
Starting point is 01:25:24 favored in the Big 12 championship game at the start of season. Over Iowa State, bet them hard. That was one of my rare wins this weekend against Arizona. They're rolling. And the coach people love. How about this? He got like a $200,000 bonus for winning his ninth game,
Starting point is 01:25:41 just won his 10th. But he got a $200,000 bonus when he won nine. Without telling anyone that this is the way he was doing, he went to all the off-the-field staff that works at the football program and said, hey, you're all getting $5 to $10,000 bonus for Christmas. That's cool. But he didn't say, I'm paying you. It's coming from me.
Starting point is 01:25:56 It was just like, you know, he wants no shine. He just loves that program, and he's a stud. So I'll take the Devils. I'm sneaky devil fan and support the local product here for the remainder of the year. I mean, this team was projected to finish last in the Big 12. And now they're leading the Big 12 and heading into the Big 12 championship game. Yeah, I think they had Colorado like second. Whoever is picking the Big 12 preseason.
Starting point is 01:26:18 I mean, dude, it's literally flip-flop. Yeah, experts. So they say. All right, well, there you have it. Green Bay. And you got the devil. Hell of a week. Cashmere.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Yeah. You look so comfy. Gets you some. I ain't taking it off. Sleep in this thing. I love it. All right. Well, best of luck to you this week over at grass clippings.
Starting point is 01:26:34 You and Kitty bring it home. I'm going to do the brand proud. I'll tell you this. I would try my hardest. I love it. I play to the whistle. All right. Thanks to y'all for listening.
Starting point is 01:26:41 We'll talk to you on next week's subpar.

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