The Adam and Dr. Drew Show - #2001 Annemarie Wiley

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Annemarie Wiley comes on the show to talk about her experience being ostracized for making political statements or visiting the White House during black history month. They talk about male and female differences when it comes to sports and the problems within the black community and how black leaders have failed them throughout time. Thanks for supporting our sponsors:Hims.com/ADSSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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He's over there in Florida and Marie Wiley is in studio she's got a lot going on she's a former real housewife of Beverly Hills and Marcellus Wiley that's your husband yes that is my husband yeah I think I've done some broadcasting stuff with him from once upon a time, I can't remember, but NFL, great. Yeah, he's been in this space for a very long time in the broadcasting world as well. Good to see you. So now I know we got your project to discuss,

and I'll put that out there, project transition. And I also know you had some issues with your castmates over at Beverly Hills, Real Housewives, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. What was the issues that you had with them? So it was really interesting because I was cast on this show very fast and out of the blue.

You know, it was never something that, like, I intentionally wanted to do. I didn't go seek it out. And the narrative around me being on the show was so enthusiastic at the beginning. You know, everyone's like, the media is going, oh, you know, we have Anna Marie Wiley, wife of Marcelle's Wiley. She's, you know, got this wonderful full life. She's a professional.

She's a mom. She's an athlete. And, you know, it was, she's the narrative where she's gonna fit into the show so perfectly. And then someone dug up a clip of Marcellus. And as you had just stated, you know, he's been in the media world for a very long time. There's this clip that resurfaced of him saying

that he would not allow a biological male to compete against one of our daughters in sports, right? We have four kids, three of them are girls. And so this comes up and then all of a sudden the narrative drastically shifts to, well, the Wiley's are transphobic and they're bigots and blah, blah, blah, blah, and all of a sudden I'm transphobic because my husband said that. And then, you know, one of my castmates, who was trying to be very nasty, decided to bring that up, you know, for the reason that she wanted me to be attacked. And so when I was asked about my opinion,

I said, yes, of course I agree with that, you know? I've been an athlete since I was five years old. I played collegiate basketball, you know? No one cares if someone's transphobic. I mean, if someone's trans, please live your life. Do live as you want to. But when it comes to the issue of biological males competing in women's sports, it's just not fair.

As we all know. I agree, I agree. I'll tell you what really underscored it for me, and I'll bolster your point while attacking women's basketball for a moment. But I don't know if you know this Drew, but ESPN never covered women's basketball pretty much at all. They didn't really cover women's sports,

it was just men's sports. It was fine, that's what they did. And then at some point they really made a push to open it up. And some of it is a little condescending even, like they'll do plays of the day, you know, number one, and then some woman making a basket catch in a softball game that I give like I would have done with four beers in me at any time. I played softball wearing flip flops, but like, all right, the number one play of the day. How about the guy with the monster jam

taken off from the free throw line? That to me is a little more impressive. But all right, fine. But they started including women's sports, right? And so what happened was is they would show highlights of a WNBA game, like a playoff game, and they'd show all the women doing the layups and shooting the threes and running around,

and you're like, ah, that's pretty good. And then they'd go right into the men's playoff game. And these guys are doing windmill dunks over guys that are seven foot tall, and when you put them back to back, you go, oh yeah, that is a different, they couldn't play with those guys. And if one of those guys went down over there, he would dominate, you know?

It's common sense. It's common sense. It's biology, it's truth, it's common sense. We're just in a place right now where everyone wants to bend over backwards and be so extra PC, even if that's not reality. I agree. I don't... It's just, it's really lunacy reality. I agree. I don't.

It's just it's really, you know what I thought of something as we were coming into this actually saw a Twitter post for these these journalists like this, you know, transitional female won every swim match in Texas. How's that possible? Yeah. And I thought, oh, you know, you know, what every young man experiences who has done sports is that experience of being 12, 13, and 14 years old, your child, and some kid kicks into puberty

and becomes a male man. They kick the shit out of everybody else. All of a sudden, you could have been the first pick on the team, suddenly you're the last, that guy's the first. Now he doesn't stay that way, but for a couple of years he destroys. Adam, you must have seen that happen.

Seen it, I lived it. You were it. I was on the, I have a friend, Chris Boam, who's a physical specimen, but we were both boys. And we met each other playing Pop Warner football when you're probably about nine and He was a boy and I was a boy and and we wrestled we didn't have video games We're gonna have flat panel TVs. We're not money We just wrestled and it was so boring for me to wrestle this guy because I would whip him so easily

that we when we wrestled I Was super strong when I was a boy I was a a boy. And so I would say, look, you know what we're going to do? Instead of just wrestling where I just whip you in 10 seconds, I'm going to just go lay on my back and I'll let you pin me down. And then we'll just see how long it takes for me to get up and pin you, which will take add another 30 seconds. Well, at some point, when we were like 14, I started wrestling with the guys who threw me across the room. And then I look at him, I see like a big vein in his arm.

I'm like, what's going on here? Good old testosterone. And actually, you know, he's kicking my ass up and down all the way through high school, because he turned into a man. And that's what that was. Yeah, it's just, I mean, the biology is simple. You know, Dr. Drew, obviously you can speak to this.

You know, there are just insurmountable differences between men and women, right? Like, you know what, I'd love to use the example of like my husband and I, right? I was a collegiate basketball player. He was an NFL player. He is six foot four, 280 pounds. Why would I ever want to play against him?

Why are you putting young girls who have trained their entire lives to compete in their sports against men? You're taking away opportunities from them, you're really just spitting in the face of all of their hard work and their dedication. And I feel so bad. I've had so many people write to me talking about the stories of this happening to their daughters or their friends and they can't speak out about it because what happened to me, you know, getting completely character assassinated, I was given the worst edit that shows ever seen before that reason and you can find that online but you know, I get character assassinated for saying that one simple thing.

And these people are having to live that in their everyday lives. Like, they literally feel voiceless and powerless, and it's just continuing to go on. Well, you know, we discuss this a lot. What they're doing is they have these little markers, these little test balloons. And I don't know how much of this they believe

in terms of the transgender, the women competing with the biological men or the biological men using the bathroom with the YMCA. I honestly don't think, it's sort of like, they talk about the holistic miracle known as marijuana. But if you said to them, you got a 14 year old son, yeah. Would you like him to smoke pot every day? Absolutely not.

You know what I mean? And they talk about schools and the public schools and stuff, but they send their kid to private school, right? They don't believe, they really, you know, as the great Dennis Prager would say, if only the Jews preached what they practice Meaning they practice family and education and everything else, but they won't but they vote Democrat They don't want school choice. You know what I mean? So there are the hypocrites in their lives. That's fine

What you're doing when you signal I want a separate locker room men and women I do not buy biological biological men should not, you're basically going, hey, Trump voter. And that's what they're responding to. They're responding, they're attacking you. They're not attacking you because you have daughters and you don't want them competing with men. They're not, they're not.

They just go, oh, this guy's a Trump voter, isn't he over here? And the crazy thing was though, is that I wasn't before I went on the show. It doesn't matter. It's wild. It's the first thing I learned through COVID. I was just sitting there going, open the schools,

this is crazy, stop shutting the business. I was like, okay, Trump voter. Yeah, it's good. Okay, Trump voters. Like you have no idea how I'm voting, but I don't want, I have two kids. Yeah. They went to about 50% of their high school, really, all in, they missed 50% of it.

That's so sad. And they're both like, they're both like 15 when the, 14 when the shit went down, and I was like, open the schools and like, okay, Trump voters. Like, I'm not talking about Trump, I'm talking about the schools and my kids. Yeah, but as soon as they get that inkling, it's just the vitriol that you receive is unrelenting.

And also it's weird, they have this sort of supernova of energy where you just wanna go, who the fuck cares? Just leave me alone. Why are you so animated? You know what I mean? Where did you get the energy? Like I'm walking alone on a horse trail. I'm not wearing a mask. You're choosing to wear masks, but you're stopping and screaming and having a mask. Where does the energy come from? I don't

have the energy to police everybody around me or coach them up. I don't care. I'm not interested. That was the big shock of COVID that people were so enthusiastic about being that. Essentially, these are people that would announce to you that they would have stood up to the Nazis in 1930, when in fact they were behaving like prison guards. Right, from the Nazi regime, yes, I know. I really think that it's like a sense of moral superiority.

Yes. And it's like that combined with virtue signaling. Yeah, yeah, it's narcissism that leads them there. Yeah, it gives them a sense of purpose. Like because I care for all people, I'm the good person, you're trying to exclude someone, you know, they hide under the guise of exclusion. That makes you the bad person.

Also. Well, toxic empathy, toxic empathy. Yes. There you go. You get it the worst because you're a black female. And female, that's two strikes. Trust me, I have learned. I have learned because I'm black,

I'm supposed to think a certain way. Oh yes. I'm supposed to act a certain way. I'm supposed to talk a certain way. I'm supposed to vote a certain way. I have learned that lesson so vividly over the past three months. Like when we went, we were invited to the White House. And you're female as well. I mean, it's a one-two punch. Black female, come on now.

So when we went to the White House for Black History Month in February, my goodness, you guys could not believe the backlash backlash I received because of that. Yeah, I could go and it wouldn't get backlash. Yeah, I do. Pardon? How do you fight that? So I don't I actually truly Dr. Drew, I don't care anymore. I think that, you know, I've my eyes have been open to so much propaganda and corruption through this entire process. And again, I want

you guys to understand that I'm from Canada. I grew up in Canada. I was very liberal my entire life. I've been here for 20 years and I voted for Joe Biden. And then after my experience of what happened to me, it made me dig into, okay, well, what do these two parties represent here and now in present day? And I'm like, well, sorry, I care about truth, common sense, and my family, I guess I'm conservative. Yeah. And it is. Listen, I've said it many times. I think people think I'm kidding. I'm not the true white privilege, because you don't. There is there isn't a true white privilege in that you get nothing, people screw you over, cut in front of you in line, whatever, passed over for job promotions,

it's the same shit as everyone else gets. But the true privilege is not being obligated to a group, you know what I mean? I get to do whatever I want. I'm a heterosexual white dude who's six foot two, and I get to do whatever I want. I'm a heterosexual white dude who's six foot two, and I get to do whatever I want. And I don't have to defend people just because they look like me. So if there's some white equivalent to George Floyd,

I just go, all right, well, that sounds like a bad dude. Good, what's next? I don't have to march on behalf of some white version of that because I don't care to march on behalf of some white version of that because I don't care just because I'm white. And I think there's something where the real, that is the freedom. Joe Biden is a heterosexual tall white guy who I think is an idiot. So I get to go fuck that guy. Yeah. So let me expand and answer Dr. Drew's question though, when he said, so how do I deal with that? So also, I have a very different kind of background too, right? Like I was adopted when

I was born. I was raised in a Dutch-Indonesian family in a small farm town in Canada. So I didn't grow up in the black culture. Like I didn't grow up with the black identity. So when I graduated from undergrad and I moved here at 22 years old, my eyes were actually opened up to all of these race issues and the black cultural issues and things that I had never felt and experienced in my 22 years in Canada. All of a sudden I felt here and it was very disturbing. So here's an example. The narrative of, you know, you go into a fancy store, you go into sex or something, everyone is watching you because you're black, everyone thinks you're gonna shoplift, you need to be victim mentality, you are oppressed,

you are, you know, just the constant victim mentality. I didn't have that before. And so all of a sudden, here I am, 22 years old, a professional, and I'm starting to have those thoughts that am I less than? And so I understand that. Yeah, so I understand and I feel sorry for the black community because I understand the indoctrination

that happens from birth here. But again, that wasn't my experience. So now I can look at it from the other side of it and say, so when I'm getting all of this hate from the black community, specifically from black women as a black woman, and I can have empathy for them and say, so when I'm getting all of this hate from the black community, specifically from black women as a black woman, and I can have empathy for them and say, you know, I understand why you are angry at me for voting for Trump because that you were indoctrinated. You grew up with this mentality. And it's like I can separate myself from that and I feel very sorry for them. And so I almost feel like it's a duty of mine

to kind of help people open their eyes. Agreed. And I feel very strongly that the people who are in charge of the narrative and changing minds, the Oprahs or the LeBron James or the Joe Bynes or the Kamala Harris, they turned into race hustlers and it would have been so amazingly helpful and literally saved thousands of lives.

If they would have got together and sort of said, look, this is America, it's 2023 or four or five, whatever, you can do whatever you want. Work hard, just work hard. It's fine. We don't have, instead it was all systemic racism. It was all white supremacy is the biggest problem. They created this narrative.

I talk about it all the time. I don't think people really understand the impact of it. It's sort of the impact that shutting schools had with COVID, which is just shut them down. So what, let's be safe. Okay, but down the road, there's gonna be a lot of suicides, a lot of depression, a lot of fall.

But you don't understand what this is doing downstream from what you're doing. Taking black people, making them, young black men, making them feel like they're not wanted in this society, that the cops, there's a target on their back with the cops. It is poisonous and it's destroying lives. And they could have done something and nobody... The worst is the Obamas. Michelle Obama,

every interview is about racism now. Please, you could have done something. And do you know why they do that though? Because this is, I want you guys to understand, it is very intentional. It's very do you know why they do that though? Because this is, I want you guys to understand, it is very intentional. It's very intentional, the reason they do this. They want to keep black people dependent. They want us to be down.

They want us to constantly feel like victims. Look at all the slave movies that are constantly coming out. Why are we still talking about that? Look at our music. Look at hip hop and rap. It talks about drugs. It talks about murdering each other. It talks about all this terrible misogynistic language towards women. They want us to hate each other. They're like, you know what? They're going to destroy themselves. And we are. They don't want us to aspire to anything, and we feed into it completely.

And any time another race says that to us, why are you guys destroying each other, then you're racist. And if I say why are we destroying each other, I'm an Uncle Tom. It's a literal, I call it, I termed it corporate genocide. There is a very, very clear intention to keep us in this place. Look at TV, look when we had the Cosby show, we had a different world, different shows,

those kinds of shows, right? You showed affluent and black families that were on a trajectory of upward mobility. We had one show, we had Black-ish recently, right? But that's not on TV anymore. Black families that were on a trajectory of upward mobility. We had one show, we had Black-ish recently, right? But that's not on TV anymore. I guarantee you, you will never see a show like that. Even when I was on Housewives, I went on that show

because I wanted to be a different kind of housewife. I wanted to show someone that was, again, a professional, all those kinds of things. But I wanted to show an affluent, black, cohesive nuclear family. Do you think they wanted to show that? Of course they don't. Because that is not the narrative of the black culture

that they want to push. Also, because the black people, and black women specifically, are the biggest democratic voters. Why would they want us to be critical thinkers? They want us to just be angry. We're oppressed, we're oppressed. They want us to be angry all the time. So we continually fight that fight for the Democrats and everybody else's fight.

They want us to fight the LGBTQ fight, which we are doing beautifully, by the way. They want us to fight everybody else's fights. It's ridiculous. I completely concur. The black females. I feel like I can take a deep breath of air. Sorry, I know. And this is coming from,

I used to never care about politics. I was not into politics whatsoever. And now it's, I can't even. But it's an important time to be thinking about these things. It really is. It is. So many people are harmed by this. It's about us all thriving. We want everybody to do better, do well.

Exactly. I don't understand how no one, how you talk about anything but this now. It's poison. They're peddling poison, they're getting people killed. It drives me insane. And I'm a hero, because I've always spoken about it, and everyone's always told me to shut up,

and I'll tell you a few things. They do these things, right? Well, why can't you, you speak as a, I can speak whatever the fuck I want. I see things and I say things. I speak about men. I speak about women. I speak about labradors I say whatever the fuck I want good. I observe shit and then I say you have thoughts about Putin How can you speak about Putin? You're not Russian. You don't live in Russia because I have thoughts Is that okay? So the first thing's first, everyone's allowed

to have thoughts. I can have thoughts about Mexico and I can have thoughts about Canada and they can be different thoughts, okay? And I have thoughts about the black community and I have thoughts about the gay community. I can do whatever I want. That's number one.

Number two, whatever this experiment you guys have been running, it's been going for 60 years. It's not yielding results So maybe a different path perhaps and me Going back 30 years saying it's about family. It's about dads where the dads that doesn't make me racist It means I care about this group and I'd like them to thrive that is the number one issue

It's the number one issue in the black community. It's the number one issue that they never get to. The absence of fathers. I had Gavin Newsom in here for an hour. I tried to nail him down on this because he wouldn't, he just kept going. It's absence of fathers for everything, everyone. It affects every group the same.

So whoever has the most intact families with the most dads is gonna do the best and whoever has the least is families with the most dads is going to do the best and whoever has the less The least is going to do the worst and then everyone else sort of falls in between White people are not at the top of the pyramid Jews and Asians and other groups have a higher likelihood of having an intact family. So they do better than white folk Hispanic and black do worse because they have a less that's all this it's right right down the scale and at the bottom Is least ads and that causes the biggest problems and everything else roots from that and I've been saying it for 30 years and No, all I've never heard Obama or Jesse Jackson

They never speak about and they never will they never will want to dismantle the nuclear And they never will. They never will. Because they want to dismantle the nuclear family. They do. That's how you keep people controlled. They do, but at a certain point, there needs to be some intellectual honesty. And these politicians, I mean, Gavin Newsom sat right there

and I tried to pin him down on the importance of dads in a community and he did, he bent himself into a pretzel. Tried to talk himself into a pretzel, tried to talk himself around it, anything. By the way, it doesn't make you bigoted to go, yeah dad, good, fine, stay together. I wish my parents stayed together, they didn't. But it would have been nice.

Same, same. Fine. Yeah. Was it bigoted? I don't get it. Well no, and bigot and words like that, they're just used as weapons. Like that's what they do to try to scare you

in order to try to keep you safe. They're weapons. No, they're weapons to shut you up. Yes. Yes. And now, and I'll tell you the saddest, I'll tell you really where we're kinda at, and this is the sad part,

and you never wanna get to this place, especially if you have a coach or something, where a lot of white community and just a lot of communities just giving up. They're just gonna look, okay, they're just gonna do what they're gonna do. We're just gonna try to stay safe and stay out of their way and get the fuck out of here.

There's no trying to do this, trying to impart wisdom, trying to talk about school choice, trying to talk about parents, trying to talk about religion, trying to talk about intact family. They want nothing to do with it, neither is Jesse Jackson and neither do the Obamas, so fine. Just go off and exterminate yourselves essentially in the inner city and we'll just move up

into some gated community and sad. I wish it wasn't this way, but that's it. Can't talk about it. And I loved how you brought up like, you know, LeBron James and Oprah and sad. I wish it wasn't this way, but that's it. Can't talk about it. And I loved how you brought up, like, you know, LeBron James and Oprah and everything. It's just, these people are getting such... They're being paid so much money to push these agendas. And it's all virtue signaling. It's all virtue signaling. I get it. I get it.

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streaming now. I get the money part, but at a certain point, as Obama said, when do you have enough money? No, I mean, like, when can you just speak the truth? What you don't think Oprah's smart enough As Obama said, when do you have enough money? No, I never. You know what I mean? Like, when can you just speak the truth? You don't think Oprah's smart enough to know what's going on, is what I'm saying. Of course she is.

Or Obama. But I think she cares. I don't think they care. I truly think they are all like a part of a bigger, just absolutely disgusting machine. I truly do. I agree. And like, and LeBron James, look at it.

He's the biggest virtue signaler of all. He preaches one way of living and displays that publicly and lives a completely different life at home. Of course. Trust me, it is absolutely disgusting what these people do. Well, look at it this way. Imagine one of LeBron James' kids at some point went,

yeah, I don't have an ID, I'm not going to get an idea. ID, I'm not going to. He would drag them by the ear down the DMV and say, you're getting one today. We got to travel. You got to check in the hotel. You can't live in this society without an ID. Can you imagine if one of these people

who basically say black folk have difficulty getting ID, can you imagine if their kids said, I'm not getting an ID? They would never put up with it for a second. That argument is so comical to me. It's so condescending. You're just setting the bar just so damn low. But also, here's what I've said a million times. They don't care.

Let's just really try to approach this, like let's just say we're Spock from Star Trek mixed with Elon Musk, okay? Let's just say we're Spock from Star Trek mixed with Elon Musk, okay? Let's just say that's who we are. And I go to him and I go, look, there's a problem. The problem is a lot of people of color, black folk, they don't have access to get an ID. I go, well, how important is an ID?

Well, it's paramount. You need it to live in this, you essentially need it to live in this society. Like, you don't You need it to live in this. You essentially need it to live in this society. Like, you don't need a car to live in this society and you may not need a house to live in this society, but you need an ID, otherwise you cannot. You don't need a credit card, but you need an ID. You can't live in this society.

And I'd go, okay, then what's the problem? Well, they live in places, they don't have access. I go, well, let's just take Winne Well, they live in places they don't have access. I go, well, let's just take Winnebago and outfit it and bring it to them, like a mobile blood wagon or bookmobile or something like they did with COVID testing or whatever. Just go get some RVs, let's get some money,

let's set it up, get a few officials from the DMV and we'll drive into the inner city and we'll get these people signed up. There you go. That seems pretty easy to me. I've never heard one Democrat discuss any solution to the ID, only they don't have access to IDs. Well, then give them access.

Right. It's doable if they wanted to do it. They don't really think it's a problem. No, they don't want to do it. Right. But also they don't think it's a problem. They don't do it. They don't. They don't want to do it. They don't really think it's a problem. No, they don't want to do it. Right, but also they don't think it's a problem. They don't believe it. I do think they think it's a problem. Well, what I'm saying is,

Gavin Newsom went to the French laundry in the middle of COVID with 30 of his best friends and sat arm to arm and drank wine with no mask. Is he scared of COVID? Does he believe in COVID? Does he think it's a killer? Answer, no, there's a picture of him out to dinner with 30 of his closest friends in the middle of COVID

after he shut your restaurant down. So he doesn't believe it. I don't think Democrats believe it because I think if they did believe it, they would mobilize and try to do something about it. I think they like the narrative, because it helps them, and they don't wanna do away with the narrative.

Such as, they like the narrative of kids in cages at the border. Then at some point, Biden came into office, and they didn't give a shit about kids in cages anymore. Well, do they care about kids in cages? My answer is no, because when Biden came in, there were still kids in cages and Obama's the guy who built the cages. So do you care about kids in cages? Answer is no. And do you care about black folk and ID? Answer is no. And do you care about black drinking water, waiting in line to vote in Georgia?

I would go with no. But these are all stuff you talk about. I mean, do you think it's the end of democracy? Do you think Trump's Hitlerian? No. I think this narrative is absolutely lunacy. I don't think they believe most of what they say. Lunacy. But they just have nothing else to talk about. I get it. They have to just oppose everything he does and says and they have to make him seem like he's hitler. I know, but like when Michelle Obama, when Michelle Obama's waxing on about in this new Orwellian Hades we're living in, any one of us could just be snatched up off the street,

thrown in an unmarked van and taken to Nicaragua. Does she believe any of it? No, no, they don't. They don't. There you go. I just, I would love to ask them, though. Like, for someone who just, and again, I love talking about immigration, actually,

because I did it. Again, I came here, I did everything the legal way, work visas, student visas, back to work visas, and then I got married. I did it the right way. So why in the world do we think that someone who just goes around the entire system, comes here illegally, and then they don't want to get deported? Why do you get due process now? I get it's the law, whatever, but why do you even deserve that?

I don't. They... And we needed to come here. So do so many other people. Everybody wants to be here. It doesn't mean you just get to be here. You know what I want? I want to be a billionaire. Do I get to just go to stores and start

spending ridiculous amounts of other people's money because I want to be a billionaire? That's just not the way the world works. And that doesn't make me heartless or evil for saying that. It's just not the way the world works. Also, if we're living in a systemically racist culture, why are the black and the brown people trying

to come here in the first place? They don't really explain that part either. Well, that's just a narrative that works for them. We all know what's better. It's all a narrative. It's all part of the virtue signaling. Let me give you a plug, by the way. I guess we've been so busy yelling about everything else.

Projecttransition.org. We should let you talk about that for two minutes before we bring it home. Nonprofit. Yes. Tell us about it. So my husband and I started Project Transition in 98. Project Transition in 98, it's we work to educate and empower. And really, it's about making sure that these kids don't have barriers to where they want to go so they can be greater

than their greatest excuse. So we power with So we partner with individuals, with corporations, with grassroots community boards in order to give access to these kids and provide experiences that they wouldn't otherwise have. So when you have a kid who, it's funny, I heard this story so many times of these kids that are in inner cities and they've never been, say, north of Pico before. And you would be like, well, why is that? And they're like, because there's nothing there for me. There's nothing there

that I identify with. And it's just not where I belong. Like we want these kids to know that they belong in any room that they go into. So we'll do mentorship programs with them. We'll take them to country clubs, and we'll take them golfing. We'll teach them how to play pickleball, because those are going to be wonderful ways for them to be able to network later on in their lives. We will teach them how to tie a tie, like all those kinds of things. But it's really about just making sure

that these kids have experiences outside of what their everyday lives are like, so that they know that they belong anywhere they want to go. That's a very important thing. I've talked to Drew about this many, many times, because I come from that, and you don't really... You don't think... You think that's for other people.

It's not that you don't belong, but it's like you see... You have a TV set, and you see, oh, but it's like you see, you have a TV set and you see, oh, the Brady's are going to Hawaii, you know, and you just sit at home and go, well, that's where other people, and you see guys, you know, wearing suits, having meetings, carrying attache cases, going, oh, that's just, that guy pulls out his gold card

and puts it on the thing, pays for the dinner, you go, that's right. You just think it's another, it's like almost a different time. Yes, or they just, you know, they don't have. Different world. They don't have the mentorship, right? Like they just don't see those things

in their immediate environment. So they think, okay, my options are, you know, I'm gonna be a rapper or I'm gonna be an athlete. Yeah, yeah. And then so for the ones that are like, well, I wanna become a physician, I wanna become a lawyer. We connect them with the right people.

Let me infuse this into your agenda. Because we've established I'm a genius. I think so. And that I speak for the black community. The truth and the truth. The truth and common sense. I am telling you, Los Angeles, you could drive from Antelope Valley to the inner city

and you see no black young men working in the blue collar sector, the trades. You can go buy a thousand construction projects, see a thousand apartment buildings being framed. There's not one black face swinging a hammer. I did all the palisades, I've toured the palisades, I've toured Malibu, I've toured the entire place. I've seen thousands of men working,

working equipment, driving trucks, getting good money, good hourly wages and benefits and everything else. Not one young black face in that entire group. And I've been screaming into a microphone for a million years. These guys aren't going to college. Not everyone's going to college. That's fine.

There's no shame in that. You don't need to go to college. There's programs. You could be working this heavy equipment. You could be driving that truck. You could be making 65 bucks an hour in full benefits and employed with a trade quickly, a lot faster than you would

if you went through four years of college and then picked a major or graduate, whatever. You could do all this stuff in a year or two years. There is none of that. And I worked in the trades for a million years in Los Angeles, I'd never worked with one black person. Really? It's all Hispanic and or white.

And now some Armenian, they did the tile and the slab work. The Middle Eastern guys, it was a weird thing. Each group segregates into like their own trades. You know, the white guys did finish, Latin guys did the block work and the stucco cement, you know, the white guys did finish, Latin guys did the block work and the stucco cement, you know, the Middle Eastern guys did the tile and the countertops and stuff like that. There was no, there was no black person

that ever worked it and you won't find it. And you can look, you can drive around. We don't, when you go to Atlanta, you see it. And when you travel, you go to New York, you see it. You do not see it in LA. You do not drive around and see a black guy who worked for a landscaping company out mowing a lawn or out moving, doing hardscaping or no.

You can picture all the construction crews you want. There's not a black guy on it. Not a young black man. So it doesn't exist. So why is this? I don't know. I've been studying it for a long time, like what is so unique about LA that again,

I travel the country doing shows, and when I'm driving from the airport, I'm just driving down the street and I see a construction crew framing or building and it's a black crew, I'm always like, what's going on here? It always strikes me, it's like, oh, it's a black crew, I'm always like, what's going on here? It always strikes me, it's like, oh, it's a black building crew.

Mm-hmm. LA could be a lot of, look, in LA, you're here in LA, you're gonna either be a rapper or producer or TV star or something, you know, something, not a bricklayer. But what about the people that are from here? Because everyone always thinks like, oh, LA is Hollywood, but there are,

what about the LA natives? I am saying, I would have a heart attack Because everyone always thinks like, oh, LA is Hollywood. But what about the LA natives? I am saying I would have a heart attack if Maxine Waters said, look, Altadena just burned to the ground. Pasadena just burned, sorry, Palisades just burned to the ground. Malibu just burned to the ground. We have thousands of structures down the ground. We're going to have jobs for the next 10 years building these things.

We're low on manpower. We need crew. We're going to the inner city. We're gonna find these kids that aren't excelling in high school, and we're gonna start giving them some vocational training. It's actually a genius idea. And when they're 19, when they graduate high school,

they're going down to Malibu, and they're gonna be apprenticing, and they're gonna be working this heavy equipment, and we're going to or we're going to teach them out of frame. We're going to get we are going to need HVAC guys, we need concrete guys, we need roofers, we need stucco, we need all the trades. And the trades get paid well. And they're in you have some pride, because you're up on your feet, you have a trade. Yeah. And, and they get benefits and

they will get paid. They do not have to either get in a gang or be a rapper or get a job at LAX. We can give them a trade and we need these guys. And there's no diversity in it at all. I've covered every square inch of the burn zone for a vlog I've been doing. I've not seen one blackface. That's really interesting to me, and it makes me wonder. You know how, oh, God, Jasmine Crockett. Part of it is a way out. Part of it is that would actually, instead of agitating them and making them more and more

angry at the system, this would actually get them out and give them some satisfaction and some dignity. 100%. Remember how Jasmine Crockett was going off talking about with the people that were being deported and who's gonna do those jobs? Like are these some of those jobs? Are these some of those jobs that she's saying

that Americans are not gonna wanna do? It's almost 100% Hispanic right now who are doing these jobs. These people are elitist liars when they say Americans won't do these jobs. I did these jobs, all my white friends did these jobs, the poor people do these jobs. Poor people work all the fucking time.

I know tons of these people. Can I tell you what my first few jobs were back in Canada on the farm? I worked on an egg factory and I worked on a berry factory. Like you do them. These are elitist college bullshit things. Poor people work, people need to trade, and by the way, these jobs that Americans don't wanna do,

prevailing wage is 60 bucks an hour for labor on those job sites. They're getting paid. So why are we, we need to enact this? I've been screaming about for a million years, but no one will listen to me, because I'm white. So why would you listen to a white guy with a good idea that affected black people?

No, it's a genius idea. They're all languishing. I've never heard the mayor. We have a black female mayor, never had a fucking word out of her mouth. Maxine Waters and all the city council and all the leaders, nothing. Nothing.

Prove me wrong. Go tour the site. Go tour all of it. You'll see thousands of guys driving dump trucks. You'll never see a black guy driving a dump truck. You'll see thousands of guys in excavators driving Bobcats, skip loaders. You'll never see a black guy sitting in that cockpit. That's wild.

And plenty of guys just out on the street with shovels and guiding guys around and doing the demo work and doing the carbonate, you will not be on blackface. See, and I didn't realize that they were paid so much. Trades are, guys in the trades get paid a lot. Well, but then that would go back to my earlier argument, which is that we don't really want black people to ascend. No. So why would we inform them of that? Why would we start an initiative like that?

Because that's only going to better the black community. Why would we wanna do that? We wanna keep them unwell fit. Yes, you could pay a lot more than a school teacher as a welder or a carpenter. All right, Anna Marie. I will send people and tell people to go to projecttransition.org.

Now look into this trades thing. Yeah, I intend to. And by the way, anybody who's able bodied, who literally just has a strong back, any 18, 17, 19 year old kid, any kid that's good to go can walk onto a job site and start as a labor. Just pick up a shovel, just move stuff around,

throw some garbage around, clean up whatever. In a year, you'll be an apprentice carpenter and you're making good money. It's criminal that we're not into it. All right, I'm gonna be in Port Charles or Port Charlotte, I should say, Florida, right Drew? That'll be tomorrow and Saturday, doing some live shows there

for signings to Italian Steakhouse and Comedy Theater, and then Melbourne Auditorium, doing stand-up there on Sunday in Melbourne, Florida. Drew, what do you got? I have Dr. Drew on Twitter and drdrew.com. So, until next time, Adam Kroll for Dr. Drew, and Anna Marie Wiley saying Mahala

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