The Adam Friedland Show (Cumtown) - Rep. ILHAN OMAR Talks Terror In Minneapolis And Becoming American

Episode Date: April 15, 2026

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Is that where you learned how to scrap? No, I mean, I've got six older siblings. We've got three brothers. And you've never lost one fight? You could beat up anyone in Congress? I don't want my brothers being upset about this, but... You beat they butts?

I don't know why I said it that way. You beat your brother's butts? To a little girl? We'll leave that to the imagination. You were a little, though. I was. Did you do it in front of girls their age? No.

Thank God. They would have never lived that down. But I rarely fought girls. They mostly fought boys. She's such a gang, sir. I'm sorry. So good. Welcome to the Adam Freeland Show.

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They've added a second. Enough of that. My guess this week is Ilhan Omar, representative from Minnesota in the House of Representatives. Since her election to the House in 2019, Omar has become one of the most well-known, oftentimes maligned politicians in America today. I really enjoyed getting to know her backstory.

I knew some of it, but it's really unlike any other member of Congress. At eight years old, civil war broke out in Somalia, and she escaped to Kenya, to a refugee camp. And at 12, she moved to Virginia with her family before eventually settling in Minneapolis. Since her election of Congress, she's also been subject to constant harassment and even death threats.

There have been Republican candidates for office who have called for her execution. Multiple people have been imprisoned for plotting her assassination. President Trump has targeted her repeatedly throughout her entire time in Congress. He's advocated for her expulsion from the country, among other derogatory, whatever. Funnily enough, we had this scheduled twice before on the calendar,

and those two times were the days that New York City had blizzards this year. The Jewish God is mad at me. Hashem is mad at me. The first few times, she had extensive security detail that was provided by Congress. She was the only member of Congress that had it, and they needed access to do full security sweeps of the studio. On Friday, when I asked her team if they needed access this weekend, they said that Speaker Johnson has revoked that security.

I had a bunch of questions prepared for the congresswoman about what it's like for a person to endure all that. But what I could tell immediately is that she's genuinely just unafraid. or in unfazed, or at least she seems like she is. I don't think many people could do that. I think it takes a really special person to do that. So here's my interview. We do a funny bit up top if you're still watching.

She said it was better than Hassan just for the record. Ladies and gentlemen, Congresswoman from Minnesota, Ilhan Omar. This is our third attempt at this. It is. How am I? How are you? Do you think that this is cursed? Do you think we're cursed? You know, there's always weather issues.

No, we've had two blizzards. In New York City, we've had two blizzards, and those were both on the day that you were supposed to come. Yeah, well, come to our situation in Minnesota. Yeah, do you like it there? It seems plenty cold, no? Yeah, but as Prince said, it keeps the bad people away. One thing that kind of is a little bit upsetting to me is that

enemy of the show, Mr. Hassan, Hassan Pekker got you. He snuck in there and he gave you a tea that everyone, it had become a meme. Hassan got some store bottled tea that was warm and everyone's like, wow, he's such a

great guy. That's one of my favorites, though. Fine, but I've done one better. Okay. I've gotten... It's a big challenge. I've gotten authentic Somali tea. We're going to do a cooking segment, late-night talk show style. Can we get the boys out here?

And we're going to do a segment called Somali tea. Okay. We're actually going to make Somali tea? We're going to make Somali tea. You're going to teach me how, but I'm also going to spill some Somali tea. Okay. All right. Sounds good.

I don't know if you've been. I don't know if Trump will approve of this, but. What do you mean? Well, I heard Donald Trump's been getting fat. That's like that kind of thing. We're spilling tea. Hurry up, guys. She's not sure about the show yet.

to really win her over with the Somali tea. Did you hear it from Trump? No, no, we're not that. You can't bully. Okay, I'm just saying. We're not going to do racism. I'm just saying your tea can't come. No, listen, sis, we're spilling the tea

and it's going to be piping hot. These things need to be grind. Would you have a? No, no, no, here are the leaves. Okay, but the cardamine needs to be broken. Oh my God, I look like an idiot, guys. What do I turn this on, extra hot? Do we have water?

We need water. Behind me. Oh, so yeah, from a very... Is this on? Yeah, look how expensive this looks, huh? Yeah. Wow, this is just... I feel like a Jimmy Fallon, huh?

Well, maybe I can serve a little piping hot tea because I was on Somalispot.com Okay. And I heard that the truth about that Ashraf guy on TikTok. is that he's rich because he and his brother work for slash own an NGO in Somalia. But you didn't hear that for me. Okay. You get it?

It's like tea. I got it. Okay. I don't know. A little bird. I'm struggling trying to keep some of these things open. It's fine. We're good to go.

So a dash of clove? Yeah. Looks like you put about. Cinnamon. Cardamine. needs to be broken up, but okay. Okay, just, just everyone, a little birdie told me that the president of Somaliland, Mohammed Abdullah, has announced a sweeping cabinet reshuffle involving new appointments,

dismissals, and transfers across key ministries, but you didn't hear that for me, sis. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Okay. We were putting you to work. You're the guest. This is going to be delicious, I'm sure.

I don't know if you heard this, but Ethiopian Eritrea have been saying that they have more beautiful lighthouses than us. Well, we have the longest coast in Somalia, so I don't, I don't know. Yeah, and I heard Eritrea said she had breathing issues, but really, it was a nose job. Oh my God, we're being so bad right now. So that's our bit Somali tea. This is by far the stupidest thing we've ever done on the show. Can someone take the hot plate and then pour us the tea? Yeah. If you lift that, I can lift this.

No, we don't. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. Oh, this is terrible. This is very dangerous. You grab that. There we go. Wow. I'll leave this there. Guys, that, our first cooking segment has been an absolute winner. Justin, don't put it in a solo cup. It's going to melt it. That's what Caleb told me.

No, we have these. Yeah. I've really enjoyed Lurie about you for this episode. And I think that you're obviously, do you feel like you're one of the most well-known members of Congress? I mean, sure. Would it be fair to say that you're used as a political cudgel? I might be a little bit of a boogeyman for the man guy, yeah. Yeah, and it started pretty much immediately, if I remember correctly.

Yes, right after I won my primary race for the state house. So nobody should have actually known who I was. Well, how did Maroon 5 find out who you were? I don't know if any of you know this, but in the Girls Like You Video, you are, along with Ellen DeGeneres, Gal Gald Gailot. Jay Loho.

Cardi B. Cardi B? Yeah. Yeah, I guess when did you come to national prominence or something? That was obviously before you were in Congress. Well, when I won my state house race, they said I was the first Somali legislator to be elected in the United States. And I think people didn't distinguish the fact that I was a state legislator and not a member of Congress.

Really? And so everybody was congratulating me. I was getting phone calls from like old leaders around the world. And people were going to the capital trying to find my office. So everyone is very stupid. Well. Was it like just a very generous headline? Did they not?

Yeah, I think that people still, most people that don't know that state legislators and, you know, because you're called a representative when you're a state legislator. Right. And when you're in the house, you're also called the representative. So people, I think, just kind of confuse the two. And you beat a lady who wanted to lower the voting age to 12? Is that correct? Well, she was there for 44 years, so.

Yeah. But she said that 13-year-old should vote? She had some interesting ideas. I think that's cool. I think kids rule. I think the maximum voting age should be 18. I have a pretty smart 13-year-old, and I'm not sure she's ready to vote. I think she is.

I think the kids rock and teachers suck, and there's too much homework. 13, that was my... They don't give as much homework as they used to when I was in high school now. Oh, boo-hoo. I know. That rocks. Yeah. I don't know. It's sad. If you're a parent, I'm like, I want the same torture I went through for my kids to go through.

Did you have them at home for COVID? I did have them home for COVID, four kids. You were in the government and you had four kids at the Korean? Yeah, it was wild. Were you losing your mom? It was actually more entertaining because I remember, like, I was one time I was cooking lunch and my youngest daughter, who was in elementary at the time, I think she was in third grade, was doing PE through the computer.

Computer PE. Yeah, so I just, like, she was on her laptop at the dining room table, and I turned around as she was doing jumping jacks. And I was, yeah, it was a very weird thing to see her do and then like to hear everyone else doing it through the noise that was coming from the computer. That would stink, though, that you can't, like, see your friends for, like, two years. That was painful. Yeah.

Yeah. But it was a good bonding time for, I think, the four of them. Do you think we afford kids enough sympathy for that? I think we only talk about their, like, gender, like, surgeries. But I don't think we talk about the fact that they went through a tough time growing up, no? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of, like, social interaction that was messed for a lot of the kids that went through COVID. They're weird, no. A little bit. You lost your mom young.

I did. So you were two? Two-ish, yeah. So I guess, like, how did you teach yourself how to be a mother? I did, yeah. I mean, and I think, you know, I was actually just talking to my youngest daughter about this. You know, I was raised by my dad and grandpa, and they were both strict, but they liked to talk to us as if we were adults. And so we were free to have opinions and debate with them.

And it wasn't like they didn't consider it disrespectful. And we had a lot of like autonomy as kids. And so that's kind of how I raise my kids. It's like they know what not to do. But they're also like very independent. Thank you, Justin. I appreciate it. Great timing.

Let's check, what's the La Chayim in Somalia? What's the cheers? Oh, we don't do cheers, but. Oh, because it's no, yeah, Haram. Yeah, well, La Chayim. Didn't make it into our vocabulary. Le Chaheim, yeah. I burned my tongue.

Maybe Salute. Salute. Yes, we were colonized by the Italian, so there's a lot of Italian influence. Yeah, what the, when you were talking about your father, that kind of, I mean, my parents moved to America's well and I like how to kind of communicate American culture. I know you moved here as a child.

But like beyond being a single dad, he also had to, was raising his kids in this alien culture. Yeah. And I, you know, there's like a really cute part part of your book. Yeah. Where you talk about like where you want to wear like cute clothes. Yeah. In high school.

Yeah. And he was like fine with that, but he's like, but no kissing. Yeah. If you kiss, I'm out. I'm out on that, you know. Yeah, he was out on a lot of things. Yeah, me too. I remember in sixth grade, my parents got me regular underpants.

And then sixth grade, you have to start changing for gym class. And so I asked my parents if I can get boxers. And my dad was like, why would a boy care about his underpants? I was like, I don't know, people are calling me gay. I don't know, I'm not gay. And he's like, do you have body dysmorphia? I'm like, what does that mean? I had boxers for pajamas and I used to just.

They do go from zero to 100. Immigrant parents? Yeah. Nothing makes sense to them. Yeah. It's really... I do still have a little bit of that, even though, like, I've been here for over 30 years. I still do have, like, the little bit of the immigrant parent.

My kids are like, okay, relax. We were joking. But you had to learn American. Yes. We're hopping around a lot because I want to get into your story before that. But what were the things that you could kind of educate? Was it the show, May you watch? I mean, I could watch anything.

I love TV. My dad didn't have any context to, like, what was on TV, what was appropriate or not appropriate. And he also had to work a lot, so he wasn't really home. Yeah. And so I watched, like, Family Matters and people do a lot, yeah. You were raised on, Urkel taught you? I was raised on everything that would come on TV after I got off school.

So the TV was just on all the time. But I didn't speak English and I was struggling. because the only words when I came at the age of 12 that I knew. Did I do that? No. No, I would learn that. I know your first words. It was hello and shut up.

Hello, shut up. And that's not that fun when that's the only words you know in sixth grade. That's so cute. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Your teacher wrote something in your yearbook that I thought was adorable. I don't want to misquote it, but it said like Ilhan, like age 11, hello, shut up, age 12. Hello, my name is Ilhan Nisovich. It's like it makes me want to cry.

It's so cute. It went Mr. Miller. It was very, yeah, that was very cute. So what, like, when did, I suppose, like, when did you first feel American, you know? I don't know if there's a moment. I believe when I could communicate and, like, navigate life and feel like just like one of the other kids. Maybe it was American, maybe that was like 14, 13, 14. That's fast.

Yes. You came here at 11, no? 12. So in two years, you learned English. I was pretty fluent within like three to six months. And you learned Baywatch? You learned... Yeah, I would watch the TV with the captions on.

And then my sister and I would just have the dialogue that they were having on TV. Yeah. And that was kind of, like, it helped, I guess, not to develop a strong accent as well. Yeah. But, yeah, like, I think much of my English before, you know, I got into my formal education was, like, context-based. Yeah. All my non-American, like, family learned it from friends. Yeah.

And they'd be like, Adam, you're such a chandelier. You're so sarcastic. I'm like, yeah, it's true. I am. I'm definitely not a Ross. I wish I was a Joey a little bit sometimes. Nobody wants to be a Ross. Ross?

What a Schmuck. I also don't know if I could handle a Joey. Joey? Why, he's so stupid. Yeah. Joey's like, you feel like, yeah, like you could toss him away. Yeah, it was too painful to hang out.

It was fun while it lasted, Joey, but you're not, you're no thinker. I need someone more intellectual. I think we could talk for an hour, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I'm a conversationalist, so I'd like people who could hold the conversation. And Joey would be like, I thought you were a Somalier. You're like, Somalian.

What's wrong with you, Joey? How do you even have a license to drive? You shouldn't be allowed to vote. You're spoken about so much, but I don't think people understand how much of a journey your life has been and potentially how it's made you the person you are today, which is a person that's like, fuck you, I'm not going anywhere.

You know? Yeah. We're born in Mogadishu. How old were you when the Civil War broke out? Eight. Eight. What were your memories of Somalia before that? Well, this is the thing that people usually get upset about because they're like, oh, she just glorifies her childhood.

And my childhood was pretty normal. Like not being in a war, that sounds pretty nice. Yeah, I mean, the parts where that weren't in a war. Yeah, part of my life. I grew up in a very loud. very loud, loving home. My mother, it's fascinating story culturally. In Somalia, the tradition is if you get married,

you have two options. Either you have your own home with your wife and your kids or if you don't have enough resources, the husband moves his wife in with his family. The in-laws. Yes. It's got to be annoying. Or beautiful.

Yeah, it depends on who the in-laws are. And my mother was the firstborn of her family. And she wanted to help her dad economically. She wanted to help make sure her siblings were raised well. She was an ethnic minority too? She was. She's of Yemeni heritage. And so she was very adamant that any suitor had to agree to move in with her family,

which was a cultural no-no. And so my dad, when supposedly she was, there was this coffee shop that he would frequent after. to work and she would come by that coffee shop to go home and he was he said it was love at first sight he wanted to know who this woman was and and started to show he figured out where she worked and started to show up at her job and kept asking to talk to her and she wasn't interested but eventually said yes and he wore her down he wore her down and then she She made her demand that if they were to get married, he had to move in. And that was, I suppose, a hard choice for my father.

But he was in love. With her mother? With her mother and father and her siblings, I know. And she said yes. And I think, you know, as it would be, it was probably one of the best choices he made. And so he moved in. We were born in my grandfather's house. My grandmother died before I was born.

So my mom had younger siblings that she had to help take care of as she was having kids. And so I grew up with my aunts and uncles, you know, along with my siblings. And so it was, it was a full house. And you were the youngest, too. I'm the youngest of seven, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Being a member of Congress and understanding what it's like to be a child in a war-torn environment.

What was that like as an eight-year-old? I mean, what are your memories of that? It's distorting because, like I said, I had a pretty normal childhood. My family was like middle class, upper middle class for Somalia standard in the 80s. You know, I, again, I lived with my mother before she passed who had full-time employment, my father, my grandfather, my grandfather, my aunt and uncles. who were all teachers. And so there's multiple salaries coming into our one household. And so we were pretty comfortable.

And then, you know, we went from one day just being a normal kid, going to school and playing. And the next day, you know, kids around your age are working around with rifles. And there's bombs dropping. 38-year-olds? Well, 39-year-olds, shit. Eight-year-olds. Eight-nine-year-olds.

I seem like an eight-year-old. I look eight, but I'm 39. Okay. When you have a vote, I mean, I know that we're in a new kind of military operation, whatever the fuck that is. Do memories of, like, hearing gunfire, do they inform your kind of morality or your understanding of what it means, what war is? Yeah, I mean, I do think of war through the lens of someone who survived one.

Yeah. And I understand that the lasting impacts of war. It's the displacement. It's the trauma that you can't get rid of. I mean, I still have PTSD. You know, there's certain environments that trigger it. And I, you know, it's, I think for a lot of people, especially a lot of people in the United States unless you've been a service member and been in combat zone,

like people can't fully comprehend. So they're just like, oh, there's war, and things get back to normal and everybody's fine. And, you know, nobody accounts for the destruction that happens. Nobody accounts for the mishears of education, that instability brings the loss of jobs, the loss of infrastructure, the loss of your memorandum,

the connection to the family, to your history. You know, I get a lot of people who are like, yeah, you should be grateful that you have this beautiful life. I am grateful enormously that I have this beautiful life. More so. But it comes with a cost, you know, and I think that a lot of people, because we are in America, a lot of people just see people

who come here seeking a new life, and just are like, why aren't you just really excited? It's like, yeah, they are excited, but they also have the human capacity to miss what was lost. Yeah. You know, my great-grandmother, who also lived with us and helped raise us, I didn't see her for many years after the war. She passed away without me saying goodbye to her,

and I would have loved to have been by her side when she passed away as I was with my grandfather and father. I think there's this notion of what a refugee is. In learning about you and researching for this, obviously there's a xenophobic thing happening, which is like for the first time I was, I'm 30 or 39, fuck, I'm 39. It sounds so bad, I'm 40.

I'm turning 44 this year, so I don't know why you're, You hanged up on the... We're the same age? I'm older, and five, it sounds like. We're the same age. And you're in Congress? You would have been in eighth grade when I was graduating high school, so you're okay.

Yeah, you would have, you would have bullied me probably. No, I was very much opposed to the police. We would have been best friends, obviously. I would have fought your bullies for you. No, I didn't have any because I was so funny. That's great. All the bullies were laughing so much at my funny jokes. No, but...

I thought that's how people become funny. because they get bullied. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Wow. We're having a therapy session. Is that what's happening right now? Yeah, I'm going to get on the couch.

Well, no, I think there's obviously, it seems like this is the most xenophobic I've ever seen of the country. But also, there's a notion. Even more so, yeah, than his first term. Oh, I mean, it's not him. It's just people, you know. But on the other side, I think there's a notion of refugee, like, there's those, like,

posters, like, refugees are welcome here, almost as if, like, you know, that, like, you're lesser than kind of, even in the liberal sense, like, oh, please come, like, you know, like, come sit down. It's well-meaning, though. It's well-meaning, for sure. But it's like being a refugee has equipped you as an adult and is a... Oh, yeah. my resilience is because I was a refugee. And you know, like, you were supposed to come twice

and your security detail was supposed to do an extensive sweep. You had a, like, secret service level security because there are multiple people that are incarcerated for plotting assassinations. Obviously, we saw at the town hall recently that, yeah, but you fucking charged, You were like, I thought he was. You're like, what, bitch?

Yeah. You charged him. Yeah, I mean, I did the only thing I knew how to do. What dawned on me, it was like, yeah, because like she walked to Kenya as an eight-year-old or a nine-year-old, you know, like. Close enough. I didn't walk all the way to Kenya, but yes. Well, you don't say, say walk to them. Make it sound worse.

What did you, what, you got a, what, you got a piggyback ride? You went to, what do you? Come on, just let me do the Jewish thing. She walked to Kenya and then seeing Republican candidates for office calling for your execution and seeing the president fixated on you, I think it's fair to say. Is that where your bravery comes from? I mean, or am I off base? I mean, and I think in the refugee story, I think, or any sort of this point, or any sort of this point,

placement story through traumatic events is that, is, you know, that old adage of, you know, what doesn't break you, makes you stronger. You know, there are people who do end up being broken, right? But I think it did the opposite for me. I think it gave me a sense of, like, I survived all of these things that could have destroyed me, could have killed me. And so what is the point of having fear? I kind of really don't have the normal sense of fear. I mean, I have irrational fear of certain things, but I don't have... Like what?

Snakes? I'm a little, like, classophobic. Me too. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that, like, because we had to hide under beds, you know, when the bombs would drop and, you know, or like try to hold on to the side of a wall just to make sure if it claps that you could crawl out.

But I think those tight corners being put in those tight corners, I think, maybe helped me develop just a little bit of claustrophobia. I feel bad for saying me too, but, yeah. Yeah, but I mean, there's different things that happen, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know, when you, when you are, you know, eight and you are crossing multiple checkpoints and people have guns pointed at you, you know, like, it. you just develop a sense of like, I got through that, you know, what else could happen. It reminds me a lot of when my dad wouldn't get me boxer shorts when I was in sixth grade. You know, we've both been, we have different stories and we've been through, I've been through a lot.

Yeah, very traumatic. I didn't get, I didn't hit puberty until, basically after 10th grade. So we've both been through a lot, you know. Isn't that not the normal age? I know your grievance politics. No, it's not the normal age. In sixth grade, some of them are like with beards. And we're like, how are we the same grade?

Two kids had sex in sixth grade. And I went home and cried. I don't know why I'm telling a sitting member of Congresses. But I cried. And I remember both their full names still to this day. I cried. I said, I thought we were just kids. Sex?

You saw them? Did they tell you about it? What's the context of this? The summer after sixth grade, you could beat both their names. El-I just had sex And I cried They're going to sue you They're going to sue you for sharing this

So tell us about Kenya Did you show with Malik Obama ever? No Did you ever link up with Malik Obama? You know who he is? He's like mega He's like mega. Yeah, no, no

He's a hater. He's hating from Kenya. He's just tweeting and hating. I think we would have been in the same region of Kenya, but No, so So your mentor in Kenya was Malik Obama. Is he related to Barack Obama or is that like a common last name? Is it like Kim in Korea?

I don't know. Your family got the visa to move to the States and to leave the refugee camp in Kenya. Also you learned how to scrap. Is that where you learned how to scrap? No. I mean I've got six older siblings. We've got three brothers. And you've never lost one fight?

You could beat up anyone in Congress? I don't want my brothers being upset about this, but... You beat their butts? I don't know why I said it that way. You beat your brother's butts? To a little girl? We'll leave that to the imagination. You were a little, though.

I was. Did you do it in front of girls their age? No. Thank God. They would have never lived that down. But I rarely fought girls. I mostly fought boys. She's such a gangster.

I'm sorry. Girls are scratched, and I didn't want my face scratched. You're a boxing M.M.A. fan. I am a boxing. Do you like my favorite boxer, Nioia, anyway. You like him? He's all right. The monster?

You think he's all right? The amount of power at that size. Okay, all right. Honestly, he's your size. I am a fan of the sport. I don't really have. You like Bud? I don't.

Proffered. Yes. He's the man. Yes, he's amazing. We watched his last fight. Against Canella. We just watched Wilder, too. Oh, yeah.

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My grandpa. Your grandfather, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said America was the only country in the world where you will eventually become an American. And it's interesting because he was very right about that. I don't know too many places where an immigrant can absorb the identity of a new nation they arrive in. I guess because it's not an ethnicity, right? Yeah.

Like German is an ethnicity and national... I know a lot of people use Japan as an example, which is crazy. I mean, I guess that's the thing I always thought was awesome about America. I mean, and the people here who would be, you know, the inhabitants of what was to become America, were not calling themselves that. And so I think that creates the distinction where, you know, like a country like Somalia, the people are Somali. So everyone else that's there, like they have their own ethnic backgrounds and stories.

But there is a core group of people who are just Somali. As a legislator that is that hijabi, black, and a woman, do you think that that is kind of on the surface why so much negative attention is paid to you? I mean... I mean, I would say less because I'm a woman and black, more because I'm an immigrant and visibly Muslim. Yeah. Yeah.

One thing that's odd to me is like the Obama era, right? Like you seem like a person that like, it would be the state of the union or something and you point to the balcony, it'd be like, Ilhan Omar was a refugee in Kenya and she came to America and she worked her way up and became a success, you know? It used to be something that we celebrate. Yeah. I think that is the backlash is because it was celebrated, right? Because the reason, you know, earlier you asked, like, why does, you know, how does everybody

know you, how do you, you know, come to national attention, is because I was a first for a whole community that, like, was barely recognized as being in the country. Yeah. And, you know, here I am, less than, you know, a little over 20 years after arriving here as a kid, is a member of Congress. You're the first African refugee? I am the first African born there. You're the first Somalia?

Yeah. You're the first Muslim woman? Yeah. To where is a jihad? We came in together, yeah. Rashida, but was it alphabetical? Yeah, but I'm also the first Muslim not born in the US to ever serve in Congress. Oh, so Rashida doesn't have that on you?

No, she's born here. Yeah, she's born here. Yeah. It's kind of soft of Rashida. Yeah. I mean, and Keith Ellison was born here. And Dr. Carson was born here. Yeah.

And Lativa Simon was born here. So there's four of us that are in Congress. Yeah. But everybody seems to only remember I'm the Muslim one that exists there because I'm visibly Muslim and I'm also an immigrant. Do you think they're also haters because like, I don't know, everyone's uglier? No. People are beautiful in their own ways.

Can you just, what, you think Lindsay Graham is beautiful in his own way? I'm sure somebody thinks Lindsey Graham is. You work at an ugly office. Can let's be real. Have you seen some of these people? some of these people? Why are we let them in charge of us? You can admit it. It is not a beauty contest. Okay, listen, I'm not, look at them. Some of the, wait, you think Mitch McConnell got there because of pretty privilege? You think, well, what do you? You think I got there because of pretty

privilege? No, I think you overcame a lot. Okay, well, thank you. I appreciate that. I didn't know where we were going with this. I'm just saying, you know, one, one of, one, one of my opponents, when I first ran for office. It was busted. No, said that I was gaining traction because I was attractive. And you were like, thanks, but no thanks. Yeah, yeah. No, I appreciated the compliment, but I'm pretty sure it was more than that.

When you got into the house, I think probably our audience's understanding of Nancy Pelosi is kind of probably negative. I don't know. People are very hate comments. Congress in general. Can you tell us a little bit about like, you know, what she told you, about being a woman in government? Why are you laughing? I meant to say that. Why is she laughing at me? I don't know if she... Did I say woman? How did I say? Sorry. Sorry. I've just never

met someone in a Maroon 5 music video with Ellen and Galgado and Millie Bobby Brown. Young Millie. No, I mean, Pelosi is a fascinating person because she's an only daughter to a family of like many boys. Yeah, so she... Also political family. Yeah, and she had her own, you know, I think strengthening growing up with lots of brothers in the same way that I did. She was very close with her father like I did. So we had sort of, you know, some of those kind of things in common, a little toughness in us that was intentionally built by our brothers and father.

And, you know, I don't take bullshit. She doesn't take bullshit. So it was easy to connect in that way. She said that they're going to be mean to you because you're a girl? No, but I mean, she's, you know, she also had to denounce me a few times, you know. Oh, we all denounced you a few times. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think she understood that I didn't care.

I think the first time I heard about you was during the Benjamin's tweet. Mm-hmm. And something that really pissed me off was that I feel like a lot of people, online kind of people I would expect even kind of took the bait on that one it was a generationalness yeah what do you but there was a soul voice that

that spoke out of the darkness yeah on your behalf okay online what was it like to to hear that person standing up for you who's is that you Adam okay I got in big trouble okay well we appreciated it I by I well you're gonna get back of me about what I said, but I was upset because people are lecturing you on anti-semitism.

Just to back up, you got to tweet about APEC, which is a lobbying organization. Right. Right? Which uses... Very toxic lobbying. Sure. We know them. We love them.

No, but you got a tweet that it was all about the Benjamin's, like meeting that money in government. Like from the song. Also, the rap song. Also, his name is Benjamin Netanyang. I mean, it worked on. It was a triple entendre. Well, the other layers had no factor in outside of the, yeah, outside of the bars, yeah.

But like I said, I think I was too young for a lot of the people who were commenting on it. Yeah, they were like Benjamin Franklin would never, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then I got upset because you were getting lectured by a certain daughter of a former president. And I did a mean tweet and she found it. I didn't even at her. And so she said that I was an anti-Semite. I tweeted Chelsea Clinton isn't even Jewish. She's just ugly.

Sorry, sorry. Sorry. Is that a real tweet? Yeah, I'm sorry, but I was upset on your behalf. People are piling on, I regret it, and I'm sorry. Jewish comedy, the basis of Jewish comedy is self-deprecation. I'm just saying we're ugly. We have that.

in common. Somalis are very much like that. Yeah, we hate ourselves and don't take ourselves too seriously. Listen, just seeing that one voice out of the darkness. Yeah, it encouraged other people. Was that, when did you know that it was going to be like this, I suppose?

Did you, because that was fairly early on. Was my first month, third week. First month at the job, everyone's telling you that you're Adolf Hitler or something. When did it dawn on you it's going to be like this? Did it dawn on you then?

Or was it your second month when they said you were Ediamid or something? Your third month when they said you were Pol Pot or whatever. I mean, I don't know. I guess like when I first ran, you know, I thought of all the horrible things that could happen, wrote a list of 10, 10 worst possibilities. And none of it has actually happened. What were some of them?

Bad. Bad ones? Yeah. Really? Yeah. I'm not going to say it so somebody can do it to me. I'm not putting it out. You don't want the bad guys to get any ideas.

That's smart. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, like I, you know, so I think I keep a level-headedness because it's not as bad as I thought, which is kind of great. because everybody's like, oh my God, this is horrible. And I'm like, eh, it's really not as bad as it could be. The strange thing to me is that Somalis are such a small ethnic minority in America,

and there's a fixation that surfaced. And Trump was talking about them in 2016, I believe, when he was running. Yeah, he came to Minnesota and said we were there without the permission of Minnesotans, and we should all get out. You didn't ask? Apparently. Why Minnesota? What about Arizona or something?

There are Somalis in Arizona. Yeah, the smart ones. Why do you go up there with the snow? This is as different as possible. We're naturally nomads, which culturally means, you know, somebody usually goes to a place and says... Why do you nomad away from the snow? This is a good place for people to live and raise a family. Yeah.

You know, my family was settled in Arlington, Virginia, and that's where I went to middle school. And, you know, my older siblings, realizing that I'd missed four years of schooling, really wanted a good education system for me so that I could graduate on time and, you know, not get lost in the system. And they were doing research in Minnesota at the time had really good education system. And so that's how we ended up in Minnesota. But the first family in Minnesota came from San Diego, actually. It's way nicer there in San Diego. It's fabulous. He had a lot of kids, and the cost of living was too much.

California, did I get me started. Yeah, so he moved to Marshall, Minnesota. Oh, that sounds terrible. Where he was paying 10% for rent than what he was paying in San Diego, which meant he had the freedom to start a business. And I think he's the first Somali million. I want to talk about Minneapolis. I kind of have this like

well first off I just like I think it's valuable to hear like from obviously two constituents of yours were killed right by ICE and CPP yeah yeah I think

first off like just tell us like what you saw transpire in your district in your home city yeah I mean the federal occupation of Minnesota was a little scary. We had over 4,000 ICE and CPP agents. And it was, you know, masked men patrolling the streets with machine guns, stopping cars,

dragging people out over the cars, breaking windows, arresting people who were telling them They were citizens, had their documents, they were legally in the United States. You know, obviously they killed Renee Good and Alex Prattie for just monitoring and documenting the brutality that they were witnessing with so many people being disappeared, so many businesses being shut down. Lots of empty schools. There was a third of our schools were had presence of children. It was very, very scary.

What's it like to be a leader of a community that's going through that? It's terrifying. Especially when you, yourself, your family members are also part of the targeted group. And so you're caring for your constituents and trying to provide

as much information as you can and chasing down people who've disappeared through a maze of a system trying to identify where they are, where they've been taken to, because they were usually disappearing people within three hours from the state. So that was very difficult for us to track people down. And then you're worried if one of your family members is going to be next. Do you think the president watched a YouTube video and didn't realize that most Somali, the vast, vast, vast majority of Somalis are legally, in Minneapolis are here legally? Yeah. I mean, that was the most baffling part, right?

Because they said... What percentage of the Somali community are legal in like 98% or something? Yeah, 98, 98%. No, they said they were going to do this mass. deportation of Somalis, which is what Operation Metro Search was about. Yeah. And, you know, to, you know, they canceled the protective temporary, they announced that they would cancel that, which they couldn't automatically cancel it because those are timed, right?

And so it was, for a lot of us, we were like, who is, who are you mass deporting? Because, you know, none of us are deportable. Yeah. And that was the thing that was disturbing about it because they were going into these Somali restaurants, Somali businesses, Somali, you know, heavy neighborhoods. And they were, like, basically snatching people only to have to let them out within a few hours. And then they said, okay, so anybody who came in through a refugee status since 2021, we'll take all of them to Texas and Louisiana. We will weed them.

So they did that for a little over 4,000 people, and then they had to return all of them because their vetting was... They were here legally. Yeah, and they already been severely vetted. That vetting, when you're leaving a refugee camp, takes three to five years, sometimes up to 10 years. You know, they're checking your bone density. They're, you know, look. It's just a very invasive vetting process.

And so it was, again, just the waste of money and the way to terrorize people who were just adjusting to life in America. I think a lot of also about the, I mean, largely Latino people. getting detained and disappeared. Yeah, I mean, we recently, they recently released a report of the 4,000 people they eventually arrested, less than 3% were Somali.

Yeah, it just, it seems to be like an old man watched a YouTube video and then wanted to arrest a bunch of people that were here legally, and then, and then Latinos, those suffer the consequences. Right, yeah. We'll come from, you know, countries

that are experiencing severe vulnerability. It's our, you know, it's the Venezuelans, is people from Ecuador, a lot of young people who fled trafficking and gang life in Ecuador being caught up in it. You know, your family were lucky enough to get a visa to come here. Do you often think about what your life would be like had you not? When you think about that, does that give you a deeper understanding of those people?

I mean, it's hard to predict what my life would have been like. Yeah. It certainly wouldn't be like what it is today. So I don't know. I can't predict the future for an Ilhan that, doesn't leave that camp when I did. I've been to other refugee camps in Kenya, where I've met some kids I knew from the refugee camp I was in

who are raising kids in that refugee camp. There's still refugees. Yeah, so they have another generation of kids that are born into a refugee camp. Wow. Yeah. I don't even know what I would have been into at 12 or 15.

Do they get Baywashed? I don't think so. Like when you're a kid in school, you learn about periods of history where countries that had laws started taking people from their homes and locking them in cages. You think when you're a kid, what do you do?

And I've been thinking a lot about that nowadays. And I don't know what the answer is. And so what do we do? Like about the people that are in Florida, you're in Texas or Louisiana, that are many of them here legally that are dying in captivity, that are not being charged with crimes. So what do we do if it's happening now?

I mean, it's always the challenge, right? Because you can think about what you would do, but then you've got the constraints of what the legal, system that you're living under. People forget that brutality is oftentimes legalized. And when people say, you know, why didn't you do this or why didn't, you know, these people do that, they forget that there was a whole system to make it hard for people to do anything. Because then they would whisk their own lives, they would risk their own captivity. And, you know, in Minneapolis, we've had people, I went to this shopping center that has housing attached to it.

And I was meeting with the business association there. And one of them explained that the condos above this businesses were choosing to allow. some of the workers to stay with them so they didn't have to travel that they you know they felt safe to just be able to go to work in the same building instead of being exposed to the outside environment and so you know there are places like Minneapolis where people have figured out a way to keep their neighbors safe we had you know soccer moms you know organizing pickups and drop-offs for the neighborhood children.

We had block watches where parents organized themselves to take shifts to alert other people when ICE or CPP would be in the neighborhood. And so there are ways that people have figured out, but there's the risk, right? You can get killed like Renee and Alex have. And that's the choices that people have to figure out. You know, I have to figure out. And it's something that people say to me all the time.

Like you're an immigrant, you're risking a lot by being in the forefront of this fight. But to me, it is a choice I consciously make because I would want, if there was a member of Congress that represented me, I would want them doing everything that they could in defending me and speaking up for me and not just being worried about what happened to them, but what happened to the people that they represent. So it's a loaded thing to think about. But, you know, it's... Oftentimes, we're hearing from the Democrats,

like vote for us in the midterms, if you want something to happen. Yeah. Right? But, I mean, this was a program under Obama, you know? Child separation was happening under Biden. So do you, as a member of that caucus, have faith in the party,

were you to be successful in the midterms to like close the places, shut the places down where people have been said without due process and are dying? Is that possible? I do believe, right? When you think about the mass deportation, program under Obama and private detention center is becoming a thing under Obama, you now see

Democrats finally realizing that we cannot create systems that can be exploited by evil. To them, they thought at the time, you know, this was cost-saving or it was a way to expedite or to do something in a way to reform the system. But they gave a playbook to the most evil, people like Stephen Miller, who have now allowed these detention centers, and even with the first Trump administration, where people dying in there and covering up, it's normal.

And sometimes being killed in these detention centers. without accountability where you can have mass agents and we're now just begging for the bare minimum of like can you go back to what it's actually legal required for you to do and so I do see now when Democrats say put us back in charge that it is about reining this in it is about recognizing that we've allowed for a system that could be abusive to be abusive. And we have Republicans right now who are in charge who are refusing to exercise any of the checks and balances that are within their purview.

And so Democrats are not asking for much. All they're asking for is allow us to at least have a check and balance. Which, you know, at this moment, I think it's a huge selling point because it just feels like we are living with a one-man rule and that's not, you know, what America is supposed to be. I guess I'll close with this one last thing, all right? I know that answer, like, it's not the most satisfying thing, but, you know, with the... A lot of your boys suck, don't they? But it's just, it's like it's... We can pass these great policies because obviously we have Trump for president in the next two years,

even if we were to win the majority. But what we can do is make it difficult for him to have this one-man rule. Have you met him? No. No. What do you say to you meet him? I'm not sure. It changes by the day.

What would you say just right now? What are you feeling right now? I'm Trump. Hey, what's up? I'm Trump. I've been telling people to kill you. Yeah, I might actually curse him out in person. Yeah.

At this moment. I'm not going to say the cusses. We'll beat them. We'll cut it. Just say the cusses. Congresswoman, just say the cusses. I've never heard. We don't allow cussing on the show, but this is one time.

I think we can make an exception. Let's hear those cusses. All right. You sharing your story, I think you are kind of an example of what is great about America. You can make a success of yourself. You could go to college at the Mall of America. How did you find out that the college at the Mall of America wasn't on the up and up? Were you in a sorority?

No. I heard that you rushed Victoria's Secret, but you got into hot topic. You got into a hot topic. You were the weird girls. The weird girl sorority. Absolutely not. Yeah, me and the brothers at Hollister, we were doing beer balls. You went to college at a mall?

Yeah. You might be the first in Congress mall college. Called the National American University. It was one of those, you know, exploitive. Yeah, Jared Kushner owned it. Yeah, schools. And they... You think Kusher and Wickhoff got this?

You think in Pakistan? It's quite possible. I think they got this. I don't think so. No, no, I have no faith. But it was one of those schools where they, you know, prayed on... Immigrants?

First time, yeah, first time college. You know, like, you'd be the first one to go to college in your family. Did you live on campus? Or veterans. No, no. And that was the selling point because it was like, they had this, It was like one night, one day, Saturday's all right.

How did you not know that this place was on the up and up? They have an amusement park. Yeah, but I'd work at the mall. I could go do my... Orange Junete. Where? Leather Limited. What is that?

That sounds horny. It was a... That sounds harab to me. No, it was a leather. I was a leather jacket store. Oh, nice. They sold leather jackets and bags. purses.

Nice. You got a employee discount still or no? I did. I bought my dad like a lot of leather stuff. A full like harness. No, he had one of the leather jackets with the fur, the winter leather jacket with the fur. Oh, daddy. Yeah.

And I got him like a suitcase for him to. Is he proud of you? My dad passed away. He was very proud of me? Yeah, yeah. Was he proud of you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was very proud.

I like the section of your book where he said that it's, political science is a stupid... That was my grandpa. Was that your grandpa? Yeah. Sorry. My grandfather was like, politics is something you do. It is not something you study.

He's right. It's stupid. I studied it too. What a waste? Yeah. I agree. I don't think I would like... What am I doing with my...

One of my kids actually study polyscience? No, it's moronic. Yeah. The science? Just do it. I have some beakers and bunsen murders. The science is in the action of doing politics. Yeah.

But I eventually graduated from a school called the NDSU. Yeah. In Fargo, North Dakota. Yeah, Carson Wentz. Carson Wentz. Oh, yeah. The football team. Whatever.

They had a great football team. Were you there with Carson Wentz? I mean, you know I wasn't hanging out with football. No, you're with the nutrition club. Yeah, I also had two young kids to take care of them. They don't really do much hanging out in college because I was a young mom. So you would bring your kids to the... Yeah, I was in a lot of clubs and would bring them with me.

You would take them to the club. Oh, like student clubs. You would go to the club with your kids. She's out of control. Wait till Tucker gets the word. Someone says something to me. I spoke to people that know you. Okay.

And someone said something to me that's stuck with me. granted I did this five months ago and then two blitzers Where are you guys finding these people that know me? Who? Where are you people finding these people who know me? My APEC guys got me Got me a couple contacts

I don't think those people know me. Someone that knows you has said to me that every day for you is lived truly not in like a self-help way but truly like it could be you're a last. And that's stuck with me.

Who's this person? I mean, I think we should. I don't know if that's such a great, you know, I think we should all live every day as if, you know, might be our last day. Just enjoy it. Not all of our interns have to go to therapy

because they're picking up the phone all day. Yeah, I don't go to therapy. I don't know. No, you're interns. I don't think so. You gotta send them to therapy, I'll tell you that. No, I mean, I have, I have staff that have been, majority of my staff has been with me since I'd gotten to Congress. You're such an immigrant mom.

Therapy is, you're anti-therapy. I am not, but what I am saying, what I am saying is that I have people who, who naturally are like, this is crazy. and I'm not going to let it like, I'm not going to internalize any of this stuff. And we mainly feel bad for the crazy people who call into our office and spend that much time thinking about us. So, you know, I don't...

I like to believe, just like me, everyone in my office is just like, these people are crazy. Like, I don't think they take it home with them. Because if they did, I think a lot of them would have left the office. and we rarely have people who quit. I think it's, if you'll allow me,

I think it's just really great to see an example. It's a shitty time of one person who, despite all this, is just like, fuck you, I have every right to be here as much as you do. And I don't think that, I mean, I think it's a testament to your resilience. I genuinely me going through that

Adam Friedland I want to send him to Guantanamo what the hell what would you have done if the president every day was being like I would have laughed at all his jokes okay there you go yeah that's what you do when you have a boss

that's an asshole but not very smart you say that that was hilarious sir yeah I would have gotten away with doing no work for 40 years Yeah. At the government. I mean, if he was saying the stuff he says, like, about me, about you. I would have, I don't know.

It wouldn't just be like, okay, this man is crazy. No, I think it's really important for someone to say, I have every right to be here. You know. What's he going to do? He's going to drive these nuts those nuts. You know? Yeah.

Someone called me after Kirk. Yeah. And they said, Do you have security? I'm like, what does this have to do with me? Me? For Charlie? If someone did that for Charlie,

I was the, me? Do you do one of those like, come debate me things? No, I don't want to talk to kids. They're terrible. What is he? He yells at babies the best. We'll cut that. I really appreciate your time.

I've been really excited about this. Thank you. Did you have fun? I did. Okay, we're going to do another cooking demonstration. And the tea turned out great if I say so much of. Okay, well you were complaining about the cloves. They turned out okay.

It's a little tangy because we didn't get to crush them. Oh my God, oh my God, you can't win with her. Guys, Ilhan Omar everyone. It's been a pleasure. I hope you enjoyed it. I did. Yeah. Better than Hassan?

Is there a competition? Yes. Oh, shut up, Joseph.