Almost Famous OG's: Bachelorette Watch Party with Sadie Murray and Courtney Robertson
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02:34So come along, watch with us.We're going to be commenting throughout the show.We'll take little pauses and comment on our experiencesand what we're thinking about the show.So we would love for you to join us.All right, we're ready to start.Let's go.Aw, she's so cute.
02:50First out of the limo is always a big one.Good hugs.I would take a tennis lesson from him.I'd move to Hawaii.Uh-huh.He's got charisma.Oh, I get why they're doing the gazebo.It's raining.
03:07I feel like the rain has to be good luck, like on your wedding day.Is she going to take the flower off?Let's see.Oh, she did.It's gone.Many hats?Cute.Is this the second doctor?
03:30Yeah, they've got some smart, cute guys.This is so far a good lineup.Oh, wow.That's a look.Oh, he's cute.I like the firefighter.What?Oh my god, stop it.
03:49Okay, body.Adi, a-a-di-a-di.I mean, at least a round off backhand spring.oopsies don't vomit just don't vomit i could see him in paradise having fun totally just with the righttequila okay what's happening i'm not okay with any of this right now yeah that's the mostawkward introduction i've ever seen most awkward oh my god stop it he's a wrestlerhave a good feeling about Doughton.I just got goosebumps. I'm not
04:33lying. Yeah.Aw.Seems really kind-hearted.He seems superI like ability.Ooh.Plot twist.I'm going to throw up.
04:51That's a commonsentiment when you're in those shoes.All right, let's pause.All right.girls so that was fun um first of all i need to ask both of you just to set the stage have you guysbeen watching since your shows since your episodes yes since your seasons pretty much every seasonsince my my season i watched your part of your season back at the day amazing sadie after myseason. I have not watched a single full episode in its entirety. Okay, so you don't know who charity is.
05:33Yeah, this is a big deal. I mean, like, I know just from like seeing like headlines and all that andlike clips on, you know, Instagram and everything. But no, I feel like I'm a fresh new fan. It's kind ofweird. I love it though. I like that, though. She's giving, I've never really had a reason to feelattached and really want to invest the time because it does take up some time, right?Yeah, that's not such a good heart, and I'm really rooting for her. And I just, yeah, I think I'm,I think I'm in. Love it. Well, yay. Okay, so I have to share that, you know, we have abachelorette text thread with all of the bacheloretts. And last night, Katie texted and said,hey does anyone have charity's number we need to add her to this group text so she was added and
06:25we have since like kind of welcomed her into the bachelorette group and i just love it i think thatyou're right i think that she has such a good heart and i'm really excited i am always excited foreveryone's journeys just because i feel very maternal towards everyone on the show but i feel likeshe truly does just shine from the inside you know inside outIt seems like she is just such a perfect person for this role.I feel like she deserves it.Everyone deserves it.But I feel like I really want her to find her person.
06:59So what did you think of the first part of the first episode?Everyone is so tall.Yes.What's happening?What are these men eating?What is going on?I mean, I'm five too.So this would be like climbing a jungle gym for each one.
07:17But, I mean, she's definitely going to be wearing a lot of heels this season.I hope the stylist is prepared.Oh, speaking of the stylist, Carrie E. Fetman did an amazing job on that dress.I mean, stunner, right?Oh, I love sequence.I love sparkle on the first night.I just think it's just, it's perfect.She's amazing.
07:39And they are so tall.And I'm going back to what you were talking about, Trissa, and she was like,nobody has a manual for this.I was thinking of you because I remember hearing.on a podcast that you guys have this group chat so it's so cool that you can invite her into thatand like help her you know along the journey i mean hopefully she doesn't need it she seems likeshe has a good head on her shoulders and i always kind of reach out to you know anyone i wouldhope that they feel like they're okay to reach out um i said in a text to the group just that um it's a
08:10safe space you know and if she ever needs us that we're there for her um but i really feel likeShe has a good head on her shoulders and great family, you know, her cutie pie, little brotheror big brother, I guess, because she's the youngest in her in her family.I think just having him there.And I wonder, since we kind of paused there, if he's going to stay, which I would love.Oh, yeah.Oh, I mean, Big Brother Energy puts a man in his place real quick if he is going to be thinking a sister.So I love to see it.
08:45I love it.yes agreed um okay who were like a couple of your favorites i mean what was his name i couldn'tyou corrected me on it i gave me you guys both said dotten i think he was the last one before thebrother came out yes oh yes he just his story his backstory i got goosebumps he's so tall againnot to you know repeat but he just they had a good chemistry i could see between them yeah yeahhe's special and the music changed when he got there so obvious it's either complete silenceor like fun music like it tells the story for sure but i really liked that one guy that wasdoing backflips what the heck what was his name i what i think it was it joe no maybe it
09:35wasn't joe honestly that's a good guess because i think like two or three are joe i thinkthere's either a lot of joes and johns joey's lots of that um i really likeJoey the tennis pro fromfrom Hawaiiright even though he was sayinghe was short I'm like I didn't noticethat he was shorter than heryou know which I
09:56who cares like you knowI guess it depends on the personin the position like maybe charitydoesn't care about height but II think it's funny that he was commentingon how short he was compared to all these guysI know but I didn't think he was shortI think those guys gotta be like
10:146 8 or 6 6 6 6Like, you know, he was a tall.I loved him.And, like, he just had a very much aloha vibe.I was like, I'll move to Hawaii.Yes.Yeah, he's cute.The firefighter.
10:28The firefighter.The firefighter was very cute.I love a firefighter.I think he wants to go on a magic carpet ride and is doing backflips off of all the things.Yes.The traveling nurse.Yeah, but he wants to.The traveling nurse.
10:43I did love him.What was his name?I can't remember his name.Braden.Okay, I really liked him, too.I love the whole adventure part of his little intro.I will say that we were all kind of having visceral reactions to Spencer.Uh-huh.
11:03Yes.What's he doing with the body, otty?No, not him.Spencer, the one that you guys were like, is she going to be on dateline or nightline?Oh, not hot.Spencer creeped me out.I mean, she needs to run from Spencer.You never think that he was just nervous or was that like an act?
11:23I hope so.Honestly, I'm sorry, I can't be nice about this.I cannot be nice.Like, I don't care how nervous you are.That was so weird.And honestly, he was like, punch me, kick me.I know.Like, talk about a weird kid.
11:38It was that sort of thing.He was like everything he said to her was like a question.Like, so do you want to kick me?And she's like, I think I do.I mean, I know.It's weird.It's weird being on a TV show.It's weird with all the cameras and the lights and the whole shebang.
11:54Krista, you're like, he needs to talk faster.I was like, I'm sorry, but I would be like this, like, come on, get to your point.Please.The story has a middle and an end.And I don't have a lot of time here.We got six weeks or ten weeks or whatever it is.wrap it upbuddy
12:15and no oneI'm sure if you were thevachelorette SadieI'm sure you would have found thatwrap it uplet's goI mean I was the runner upso maybe that could have been an option
12:31but they were really like noshe's too like let's get this goingcome on move it onso speaking of I want to knowhow did you both introduce yourselvesdo you rememberI totally do I think oh I was a long time ago before you so let me jog my memory yeah give you some timeyou like the you know days leading up to night one you're there in the hotel room and like you know
12:58kerry fat man came by is like what are you think about wearing for night one I was like this dress andhe's like the black one dolchen gabana done like but anyway long story short they kind of talk to youabout like oh well you know do you want to roll down the hill in a wine barrel my guy was rightmind speaker and they kind of talk to you about like do you want like let's talk about it and I waslike I was so nervous you guys like I just was like I just want to be bland I just want to comelike get the words out like hi I knew I wanted to hug him introduce myself I knew we had anArizona connection um but yeah I just said hey cutie I'm Courtney like I it was so bland and I feltso shy that like my voice was very little you know yes that's okay
13:42obviously he liked itwell I was the last out of the limo tooand I asked can it be first or lasta little tidbit and they spliced me inbut anyway they'll probably take that out I don't knowbut I was the lastwait what do you mean so I was the lastone out of the limo like
14:00gotten was so I came into thethe mansion and everybody had already been thereso yeah I came in lastand I was like I'm here and like it justwas a thing you knowbut it was a thing it was kind of a thing i was like late to the party everybody had already beendrinking i'm like hi i'm new here but yeah it was very nervous so nervous yeah it can be nervousi can relate i can relate to that i was the last girl out of the limo too and you were
14:29i was yeah but they didn't say anything to me like um do you want to do this do that and i didn'tget to wear a Dolce and Gabana dress either, but that's okay. I can go back in time and remember. I broughtmy own. He was just helping out. Yeah. All right. It was like from Nordstrom's rack, though. It wasn'tlike full bore. Still, it sounds really great. My dress was like, I think, one of the old prom dresses I had.And I think I looked like, I was trying to be a princess because he was the prince. But I was the last one out.And when they told me I was the last one out, the producer came up to me and said, well, you better think,of you're the last girl out so you better think of something really great to say.Leave a lasting impression.
15:13Right.And I was like, okay, I can do this.I'm going to do this.Here we go.I can do it.So I walked out and I said, hi, I'm Sadie, nice to meet you, blah, blah, blah.And he was like, hi, I'm Lorenzo.And I said, well, it's so great to meet you, but there are a lot of extra women here and
15:31here and I'm thinking a few of them could probably leave if you want to just have it be justme and you or something like that.Like there's like 20 extra gas or whatever it was.I don't even remember.But yeah, it was fun.He liked it.I mean, obviously you both were in the end.I don't even remember where what I did.
15:51Yeah, I was going to ask you, what did you wear?What were you?I was wearing a, oh gosh, what's the brand?It was like a store in the mall.Not BB, but like maybe something like that.Um, it was a black dress with like embroidered red flowers, um, and some ruffles.Oh.Uh, yeah.
16:12Mm-hmm.I mean, honestly, guys.So, so back in the day, we did not get dressed up like they did.Like, you were like, I love the sequins on the like first night dress.I wore, and it was, I felt like it was gorgeous in my eyes.Like, in my opinion, my dress I loved.It was very low-cut, black, um, like, just beautiful.but it wasn't like sparkly it was it was more yeah it wasn't sparkly it wasn't shiny you know i had a
16:42big diamond on but that was the shiniest thing on me that night um and i feel like nowadays they justreally go to the hilt with dressing up like it was not like that i remember my um after the final rosei was in jeans jeans for my after the final rose yeah isn't that crazy and i sweardo you and for the men tell all i was in jeans we were jeans like like it when was this again this waslike 2000 2000 in 2003 yeah yeah i'm surprised trista that you weren't wearing boots with the fur at thatpoint you know what i'm saying like the apple bottom jeans boots with the oh i was i was wearingsomething i remember watching you trista i watched you your first when you were on the bachelor and then whenyou became the bachelor and i just remember thinking you were the coolest and
17:34And yeah, I remember.So it honestly does not matter what you wore because that's not what people remember necessarily at all.It's really, I mean, you just were, you glowed from the inside out for sure.And I see the same thing with charity.So I don't know.She has that.She's just got something really, really special.And I'm actually for the first time, like, in a long time, like really looking forward to her finding, hopefully someone who she will be with forever.
18:03I know. Okay, I can't wait to watch the rest of the show. Be back in a second.Hi, my name is Enya Yumanzoor. And I'm Drew Phillips. And we run a podcast called Emergency Intercom.If you're a crime junkie and you love crimes, we're not the podcast for you.But if you have unmedicated ADHD...Oh, my God, perfect.And want to hear people with mental illness, psychobabble.Yes, yes.Then Emergency Intercom is the podcast for you.
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21:14He'll be listening.I love it.Stop it.Yes.Yes.Yes.I love.Undercover brother
21:33YesGet her an umbrellaI know rightYay, he got oneOh I really liked him tooHe was the first oneWith the pink tieOh and that cowboy wrestler
21:52They are sitting very close togetherI think they didn't look at each otherbecause they're literally sitting like this.It is cold, see?He's getting the first impression, Rose.Totally.And he's going to get a kiss.Okay.
22:18The snuggle, I just got chills.Oh, they're not going to kiss.but they are cutehe is just likewhy did you do this to me motherI meanhe's a precious lambokay I changed my mind
22:43he might get the first impression roseyeah rightI don't know I kind of got like a player vibefrom him though so I'm hoping I'm wrongthey'll likeAnd every game needs a good player, Trista.Don't hate the player, hate the game.I don't care.
23:05She's on a journey.Let her live.That's right.I love this bartender thing.You too.I'm offended.I'm 5'2.I'm analyzing like nobody's business right now.
23:24It was so funny.Okay, I really got to get in there and see it.Yeah.Is their tongue?I don't know.Why pretend?Oh, God, there's the quiet talker.My guy just did a back foot.
23:39Oh, I feel like you guys might feel bad right now.He's going to tell her something.I can't.This guy is so cringed.I know.No, no.No, no.That is not.
23:55all the same.Nope.Nope.All right, guys,let's pause the episode really quickso we can chat a little bit.I just feel like the slow talker part.Like,
24:05I feel like he's taking timeto say he's,maybe he's too much in his headbecause he's thinking I really need to sayexactly the right thing.I don't know if that's why he's talking slowly.Because I get that,but I also, if I was in
24:25Charity's shoes, it's just kind of, I don't know, it's kind of bothering me.I'm like, get this guy a latte.This guy, Spencer, I'm sure that he is a great guy for someone else.That's the piecey way of saying this.He, though, might be, like you said, very nervous, naturally, of course.That makes a lot of sense.At the very same time, though, you can tell she has the he-b-g-be.you can see it on her face she's not into it at all she's not as comfortable like you can tell
25:01the guys that she's into because she's sitting right next to him like joey or she's givinghim a kiss but this one i don't know that there's that chemistry there she's like well now i willuse those martial arts techniques you taught me and i will kick you right on out of here we shall seeI said, I kind of have a theory that, you know, so it's kind of what happened to me on Bachelorette.I got rid of a guy who was a cowboy, and I'm allergic to horses.And I told him I was allergic to horses, and he called me superficial.And I was like, uh, it's not actually superficial.It's like who I am.
25:43I'm like, I wouldn't be able to touch you or go to work to see you or like, I'm like, how is that superficial?so I feel like telling them like this is just logistics hello um yeah you're like I don't want to beliving on Benadryl this my life exactly um I don't know I mean you get rid of people for all kindsof reasons right and if she's not into him I think the whole reason that you make the decisionsthat you do is because you're into somebody you feel a connection you feel the chemistry you feelthe vibe you you sense the potential rightAnd I just don't know that he will be one of those people that she's thinking that she's going to be...Just like he will not be there.
26:27It is not happening.I cannot...I'm kind of like rooting for the underdog, though.Like, what if like next episode, he makes it today, you know, and what if he, like, shines?And we're like, oh, my God, there he is.Like, wouldn't that be such a good comeback story?I will eat crow then.If this, if it's a comeback story for Spencer, fine.
26:48that's fineI will say I'm sorryI wanted to like flylike come out of your shelljust fly you knowyeah yeah don't be so nervousdon't be so analyticaldon't analyze every single word
27:00that you're saying and you knowmovement of your mouth andjust be youI think that's the only way this show worksis if you are just youyessincerely youSpencer is not my guy for her
27:13yeah not my guy eitherso who is your guywho do you think based on what wejust saw is going to be get the first impression rose okay i i it's a toss up for me for the firstimpression rose between joey who's never seen anything with bachelor a bachelor and he was so justall about like how are you feeling are you doing okay holding her in closely like it felt reallynatural and i really like their dynamic and i felt like that was a really good conversation thatshe needed to have you know it was like a little therapy session so he really tugged at her emotional
27:48strings but then we got our player Xavier who I mean it's it's between those two because thatkiss whoa yeah yeah oh right I did say I think I kind of feel a little player vibes but you knowI'm not the one in her position and I'm not actually there so that's just me watching theshow I obviously they had an intense kiss and a very long one at thata very long kiss, which is great. Clearly there was chemistry, clearly. Which is great.Which is great for her. That happened either. I mean, just the fact that she has chemistry.Yeah, I would say those two for sure, but I'm also like, I feel like the guy from Hawaii is Joey, right?Yeah, Joey. It's sorry, it takes me a little long with the names, especially on night one and I'm watching with you guys.
28:42But yeah, I liked him a lot. They seemed super comfortable.yeah yeah he seems so sweet and sincere i also like one other guy didn't didn't really think i was going tolike it when he brought out the box james when he and he was like i have something from my family for youand i'm thinking oh my god already jewelry so soon sure then it turns out to be a note from his momso then he lost me but it's pretty sweet and kind but it's also likeYou don't want to, it's not about your mom, about charity, but that's kind.But I don't think he knew that.I don't think he knew that.
29:22Oh, yeah.He was like, oh my God, cringy, mom, why did you do this to me?But you're right, she needed that donut.Let's say, it's a long night.She needed a donut.Yep.He got me back with the donuts and the cider.That's right.
29:37A man who feeds me has my heart.Totally.Like, let's sober up because I will say she seemed like she was getting a little tipsyTurfee at one of those conversations.That or sleep-deprived.And I don't know about you guys, but the first night, it's like you need to havesomething in your belly to, like, actually absorb everything, and it's a longfreaking night.
30:00So any food.Did I tell you, I think one other time that they kept serving champagne to all of us,and I would hide it.And I would hide Red Bull instead.And then I went to the back and went to the break room where the producers were.were having pizza. And I was like, please, can I have a piece? And so I was like, I'm notgoing to be. I'm not going to be hungry. Yes. That is genius. That's genius. I mean, honestly,if you can, that's a tip for the first night, like store some food somewhere on your person
30:35or bring a little purse full of snacks.No, my dress had pockets. So all the girls were putting. Yes.the girls were putting bread into my dress and we were giving it to each other like behind theteam.You were the breadkeeper.For the listeners, it's just because it's also such a long night of filming.You eat before you go, but you get there right as the sun's going down.So like whatever the time sunset is, like 6.6.30.
31:04But then like we film to like 4 a.m.Well, I think now they film until the morning.There are actually shows recently, I don't know which one, but.I feel like the most recent shows are showing that it's the morning.Like, there's actually sun truly shining.It's not like sunrise.Yeah, exactly.It is like the morning.
31:28So it's not like they don't feed you, but it's more like you have to like your alcohol,like you need to be very careful about what you drink,how much you drink, hydrate, and snack.Yeah.That might have been one night that I drank water.The first night.Yeah, I want to ask you, Trista, what did you do?You just drink water all night and Red Bull?
31:48No, I mean, I probably was having, I might have been having Red Bull.I don't know what I was, what my drink of choice was back then.It was a long time ago.I definitely wasn't into wine then.It was some kind of mixed, mixed concoction.But yeah, I definitely, I did, I tried to just be sensitive.about that stuff. Did Ryan get your first impression rose too, by the way? I didn't have one.What? Didn't have one. Nope. Nope. We didn't have them back then. I don't know what the first season was
32:27that they did it. They started doing it, but it was not mine. Yeah. Well, would he have gotten the firstimpression rose had there been a rose to give him? I feel like definitely he was one. So I've alwayssaid this. People are like, oh, was he the guy after the first night? And there were four of them. So Iremember there being four guys that were kind of in contention. But if I had to have given a firstimpression rose, it probably would have been him. Yes. I mean, he read me a little poem. I feel likeyou kind of have to say yes now. You're married to that. Right. Like the correct answers, yes. The correctanswer, yes. You were like, no, I actually really like that one guy, Greg. He was so hot.He was so hot. Oh my God. That smile. No. I, yes. He was. He was. He was.
33:15he definitely had a great first impression.Actually, he came out of the limo and didn't say his name.And so I thought it was really sweet and like endearing.Oh, mysterious.Okay.Yeah.He completely forgot.And then he read me the poem.
33:33So, and he played football and a firefighter, I was like, check, check, check, check.Check, check.Check, check.They're like, something's on fire.Put me out.PartyExactlyAll right
33:46Let's get back to watchingI'm so excited to finishAnd see what happensThe first nightAre you guys ready?OkayHiHi
33:57My name isEnya EmanzorAnd I'm Drew PhillipsAnd we run a podcastCalled emergency intercomIf you're a crime junkieAnd you love crimeswe're not the podcast for you.
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34:32And in session 421 of Therapy for Black Girls,I sit down with Dr. Othia and Billy Shakato explore how our hair connects to our identity,mental health, and the ways we heal.Because I think hair is a complex language system, right?In terms of it can tell how old you are, your marital status, where you're from, you'rea spiritual belief.But I think with social media, there's like a hyper fixation and observation of our hair, right?
34:59That this is sometimes the first thing someone sees when we make a post or a real.It's how our hair is styled.We talk about the important role hairstyles play in our community.The pressure to always look put together.and how breaking up with perfection can actually free us.Plus, if you're someone who gets anxious about flying,don't miss Session 418 with Dr. Angela Neil Barnett,where we dive into managing flight anxiety.
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36:27Learn how to get comfortable pivoting because your life is going to be full of them.Every episode gets real about the why behind these changes and gives you the inspirationand maybe the push to make your next pivot.Listen to these women and more on She Pivotts, now on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.All right.He just heightened the poetry up a little notch.I love this.Yeah, he's great.
37:01I'm a sucker for a guy who could play the piano.My Bachelor did too.Any instrument, right?Yeah.They're good with their hands.Right?Oh, he's the coin guy!He's the coin.
37:16He's showing her how it's both sides.Like a prude when it comes to the kissing.I've heard time watching it.I was just going to say, it feels a little awkward to watch them.I don't like my husband's, I'm like, babe, can we fast forward?I just can't.She's very nice.He's a charmer.
37:34Yeah, he's not my first impressing rose anymore.That was kind of cheesy.I feel like the chemistry was better on the other one.Cheesy?Yeah, it was cheesy.Yeah.Her nails looked so pretty.Can I just say I wish mine looked like that.
37:48Oh, God.They look great.Somebody cracked the case.Wait.This disguise isn't working?Right.Huh.That fake mustache that looks like fiberglass.
38:01In my wig.He looks like he's on the game clue.They're calling him out big time.Not cool.That's actually hysterical.I love that they're calling him out.Did you wrestle in college?Oh, I like this guy.
38:23This is the adventure guy, right?Mm-hmm.San Diego guy.Fourth kiss?Four?I don't know.Wait.This is the fourth.
38:32Yeah, I guess.You're right.Four.He's a face grabber.She's cute.that might be the first impression oh my god i can't talk the first impressionthey're cute together yeah a lot of pink ties tonight that was more natural than the coinflipper that's for sure 100% yes i love he's my clark kent superman yes that's what they always call
39:01ryan clark kent with his glasses oh yeah wait that's weird i love that's my job about itIt's another sign.Oh, I'm all about the signs.Check, check, check, check.Oh, no.This doesn't look.You hear the drama music?The bass comes in and so does the drama.
39:19Oh, my God.He's so cute.He is adorable.I feel like he's just excited.It's not.I agree.I agree.I don't think he's being, I think this is just a protective older brother coming in.
39:32I think it was weird for Nehemi to hear him talking about it.So that's why he's having that reaction.Oh, that sucks.I hope he doesn't thwart it for my man, Braden, because I'm pulling for him.That's a big mustache.The best part about this is they're all just drunk enough to be mind-blown when it was the...And they're all going...Most of all these disguise.
40:00Crap, what did I say in front of him?It's not a big deal.It's fine.Oh, my God, you kissed her.Like, oh, my God, stop.I don't think anyone said anything that was bad, though.Do you?I mean more of the wrestler.
40:20He seems like a character, a good commentator all season.Yeah, I don't mind him.Let's take it if it comes around.We need more.He's the frontrunner, so they're trying to knock him down.But Aaron S is so hot.we can't count him out he won't be listen neymia didn't kiss him she did and it was a great kisssee that bums me out because he might have affected her future i know you think aaron gets the
40:55first impression rose oh my god what is happening like seriously if he's going to leave that isthat's a big bummerthis is sounnecessaryI knowI don't like this at allI think it's ridiculousa lot
41:13I'm like squirming guysI'm likeI'm likethis doesn't feel right eitherit doesn't feel right at allinterferingit's interferingit's not
41:23it is totally interferingthat is why I have a problemoh I like him so muchtoodotendotenhe got caught doing what being excited oh yeah yoy okay so we just finished um another big sectionand it was where brayden is being uh what's the word uh a approach um by charity to talk to him about
41:58what Nehemiah thought and i feel like we all are having very strong reactions to this i personallyam having a very strong reaction because i feel like you do this show it's great to have supportbut someone coming from the outside and not like share like not seeing the exact same thing iI have a really big problem with him having a...I thought it was funny at first, him having a disguiseand thought, yeah, if someone's a total assholeand they're like, fuck her, she just,she needs to make me, you know, go to the end
42:39so I can be the next bachelor.Then that's something.But Braden truly, in our minds,at least the way that we were reacting was,he was so excited.He was like giddy, like he said like a schoolgirl.And I'm sorry if he said that he thoughthe was going to get the first impression rose because he had a lot of chemistry with her.
43:00I don't think that's being egotistical.I think that's being honest.Absolutely.I'm fully on board with what you're saying.And I thought that, first of all, if any guy is that excited about kissing me, like, here's my left finger, take it, go.And you're like, oh, my gosh.And he wasn't, he wasn't being braggadocious by just.I mean, he literally was jumping.
43:26He was so excited.He, like, skipped to the bartender, and he's so innocent and cute and nice.And then all of a sudden, he can't contain himself.And it's like, this is not her, this is not helping her.This is not adding to the process of her finding the right guy.This is actually derailing her.It's interfering.Yes, it's interfering.
43:49It's creating a target also for these other gentlemen.in let's just call them that now because we haven't seen the whole season yeah right interfering withthe way in which you know they're going to be he has a target on his back and all this it's like yeahwhat he's totally interfering it's the girl this usually happens on episode three where a guy goes tothe person to the bachelorette and says this is what they're doing yep et cetera et cetera butnot on night one like you're so excited to be there you've taken off work for maybe two and a half monthsand of course you want the first impression rose like there's nothing wrong with that's what you'rethere for he was so excited for his time with her they had this great kiss and chemistry so i'm hoping
44:38she's going to give him the first impression rose we're going to get back to it but i mean i don'tthink that's wrong to want it i mean it'd be crazy not to or to say that you think that you'regoing to get it like i yes i get that there's a linebetween confidence and egotism, but in the same respect, like, why can't he, he was just beingsuper excited and giddy. And I personally think that it's because he's her brother. And he waslike listening to Brayden talk about how he was kissing his sister. So I think he feels uncomfortableand put a little bit of that into his opinion of him. And I don't think that, I think that's,I actually would really love to talk to charity.
45:23and see after we know how this all ends up, right?And see how charity feels after watching the showand after what Brayden actually said.Do you know what I mean?Please get back to us on those details.You are on assignment now.I'd like to know I have follow-up questions.I will text you.
45:42It could just be like an overprotective brother moment,but like let's hope she doesn't get rid of himbecause I thought he was one of our top favorites, guys.He is. He's still great.He's going to be in the top.too. For sure. And it wasn't just because we liked him personally. Like we were like yeah. I mean,I feel like, you know, a little bit of that comes into play like, oh yeah, he's cute and he's my type orwhatever. But for, I really like him because he had so much chemistry with charity. And how
46:11excited, genuinely excited he was. It was almost like he couldn't contain himself, which would bite him in thebutt probably on episode three. Like if he had kept talking about it, but the guys didn't seembothered by it. They were like, oh, I'm just going to keep it under my hat. I'm not going to talkabout our kiss. That's just not how I roll, you know. Yep. And I guarantee you that in the IT,like the producers after they saw that and knew what Nehemiah was saying, they sat them down.And in their ITMs, they said, so how do you feel about Braden bringing up how he thinks he's goingto get the first impression rose? And they probably like had them like actually say, well,I think he was egotistical, you know, or whatever, conceded. The show rights itself.
46:52I mean, just, that's how it goes.So I can't, you guys, I can't wait to watch.Let's jump back.I know.Let's, shall we?Yes, we shall.We're going to continue to watch.And I think we'll get done.
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50:11Yay!Oh, I'm so happy.Oh, thank goodness.We jumped the gun, butI love breedingYes, they're greatHopefully they'll laugh about thisOne day
50:25They willAnd Nehemiah will tooYeah, that's what I mean, yeahOkayYou all can go home nowNot quite yetNot quite yetOh
50:44Oh, the one with the mom with the book and the letter.Yes, yes.For the box in the letter.Yes.And the donuts.He's cute.Oh, no, he's crying.I need Spencer to stop with the tears.
51:00It's a little scary, actually.Lorenzo gave me the final rose.It was torture.I don't want her to keep Spencer, but...He might be a producer pick.I bet that's a producer.producer's decision oh that's a good answer proudly when people always say always we'llaccept this rose always I think I probably said that I know I did too I love the preview I can't
51:31wait to see the preview I always watch them like three times right she get the detailsoh boy she didn't make out I oh my oh my oh my oh my oh my ohmy god did you see that tom oh yes queen all right girlfriends that was fun such a good first episodewhat are our what are our thoughts about the ending say do you go first wow thoughts about the endingi mean not surprised at who she chose and who she didn't but the only thing that i was surprised aboutwas the Spencer pick.Yeah.I think it's a producer pick.
52:16But I, again, maybe he's just warming up.Courtney is rooting for him and I can see that.But wow.I know that, I mean, they say, I'm, I've been out of it in the sense.Like, I haven't been watching because I'm just like, oh, I can't get into it.Yeah.Guys, are you into it?I'm into this one.
52:35Yeah.I'm into it.And it, I mean it, too.Like, I am invested.This is exciting for me.um i'm rooting for charity i really really really love um god who did we love the most we love joey well first ofall joey but can we talk about braylin i mean and what happened because we were just we were justthinking what's going to happen is she going to give him the first impression rose or is she going to
53:04boot him and thankfully she gave him the first impression rose i'm so happy for him and also that was reallygreat because it also demonstrated thatshe'll take in what other people saywho love her, but she's ultimatelygoing to make her own decision. So Ireally like that it's setting up the precedence foryou know, really set it up for the seasonfor her. And I love that. She's not
53:27she's very strong.She's not only, you know, kind-heartedand beautiful and has a great personalitysuper smart, but she's strongon her own and we're seeing that. And soI love that and I also was soI also love keeping a man on his toes.So I didn't mind
53:43I didn't mind that a little bit.Like, I like now, you know, he, he knows that anything can happen at any time.So he's got to be on his best behavior.So true.I am just so tough.I am so happy that just, you said it perfectly.She took what Nehemiah had to say into consideration, and she made her own decision.So I think that that is amazing.
54:12And I think when she watches the episode, she'll, at least for this first episode, right?When she watches it, if she already watched it, she'll probably be very thankful that she made the decision what she made.Made the decision that she made now.Are things going to change later?We don't know.But at least she gave him the chance to stick around.What did you think, Courtney, of the last part of the episode?Oh, gosh, it was so good.
54:38That's like my favorite part of the episode.We saw people who didn't recognize.eyes like the rose finale we're like who's that was great guy and then you're like chiming and that wasa backflip guy I mean it's like you you invest time right two hours and and then you get to watch thepreview of the whole season which I love to see and we did get to see him and he obviously goes afar amount and then there's drama you know there's a little bit of drama but I will say I waspleasantly surprised by charity I knew she was going to be great but she had her carcommentary was great. She handled it well. I think she's going to be a great lead. Such a good
55:17crop of guys. I mean, confident, great jobs. I mean, I will say, like, they've had seasons where guyshave been, like, their job title is like dog trainer or not to knock dog trainers, but, you know,she had what, like two doctors? They're professional. Right. Exactly. They're professional. There's liketwo, there's a traveling nurse. She's doctors. Yeah. Yes. And then she was a lawyer. Oh, maybe they'rethat was the guy that was leaving. Maybe he was the lawyer because I don't remember much aboutanyway. There was an attorney. It's like you, Tristan. You got Ryan who has a career, you know,like you want to meet somebody who has like a career and is there for the right reasons. Andthe thing that really stood out to me watching this with you guys was how many times she said I
55:59want to find my husband. That could be a fun drinking game. Drink every time. She says,I want to find my husband or my husband's in this room. But I really think I just have a good feelingthat she's going to find like this she's going to find that person and because how smart she isand that this is going to be like a satisfying ending so to speak but i'm sad she lost her shoe yeahoh she's cinderella i have to say so i'm getting flashbacks to ben's episode or ben's seasonwhere he fell in love with two women jojo and loren and i always felt like so we'll see who shetells if she loves them, if she actually says it, because I always felt like that was so hardfor Lauren to hear when she watched the episode that he told another woman that he was in love
56:54with her. That was really hard being in a relationship and knowing that he was in love with thiswoman, you know? So I wonder, first of all, if she's going to say that she is in love with bothof them. And that's really hard because I know it can happen. It has happened in the past. It did nothappen to me, thankfully, so I didn't have to deal with that kind of drama. But I do think thatthat is really, really difficult. It can happen. I believe it can happen. I've had discussionswith people who don't feel like it can actually happen. I believe Ben, I believe charity. I believeanyone else who has kind of felt this way in this show? Yes, is it random and would it happen innormal life? Probably not. Absolutely not. Right? Because you have 25 guys or girls, if you're the
57:46male lead, it most definitely can happen. And I think that's really, really hard to navigate. So Ihope that, yeah, I hope she goes with her gut, goes with her heart, and that, you know, it turns outto be the happy ending that she wants.I mean, I hope so, too.I just, just to sort of, you know, bold print,underline what you just said, everything is high stakes.The emotions are high.You're traveling.
58:18You're not sleeping a lot.It's also really exciting.You're going to new places.Everybody else is high, you know, emotions as well.So it's like you're feeding off of each other.So you really have.have to find, I think, in this, your calm in the storm, your peace. So I'm really thinking thatCharity is going to gravitate more towards someone who makes her feel really calm and less like
58:44the Bachelor experience, if that makes sense. I have this feeling like she's going to enjoythis petty rush, and it's so exciting. But if she is, you know, as determined as she's sayingshe isn't her desire to want to find her husband, then she will make the right decision. AndI mean, I don't even know the girl and I'm confident in her and I'm excited to watch.Yeah, that's true.I mean, I definitely believe that she being what she showed us tonight and then that previewof her maybe possibly taking away a rose from a guy who she didn't feel like deserved itafter.
59:19I like, I cannot wait to see that episode because I love a girl power episode.Yeah, it looks like she plucked it right off his best.It does.And I'm all for that.I'm going to say I hope the brother comes backfor the ending. I can't wait to seethe brother back. Not in a disguise.Oh, I'm sure he'll be back for sure.
59:38Well, he'll be at least backfor the episodewhatever the second to last it.Yeah. Oh, yeah. Exactly.He'll at least be back for that. But we'll see if he comesback for more and what he's thinking withBrayden being there. That will be interesting.I know if he's there.
59:56Yeah. I love a goodpreview. I am all about movie preview.and I'm all about bachelor at previews.I'm going to watch it again tonight with my husband.I cheated on him.We saved it for today.Does he like to watch with you?No way.
01:00:09I can't even get my husband to watch and he was on it.Honestly, it's like a two-day thing.It's like we'll start it.We fall asleep.We'll finish in the morning with her coffee.But I cheated on him with you guys.I was like, I'm sorry.You're going to watch again.
01:00:22It's okay.I'm going to watch again.Thanks for cheating on your husband with us.I'm going to watch the preview again.Again, like in slow motion.Like, I just love the preview.So I'm sure for it.I am the same.
01:00:37I will pause it and be like, okay, who's that guy that she's kissing right now?And are they on like a fantasy suite date in another country or are they still in L.A.?Yes.I know when they were on that train, I was like, is this, what is this date?Is this the final four?What's happening?What's going on?Is it just a group trip?
01:00:57I need to know.Oh, my gosh.Yes.going to be so good what this is so fun i'm glad that oh i did want to say i know what i was whatit was going to say so you know how they had a bunch it came back yay um you know how they had a bunchof the bacheloretts giving like you know their advice or um best wishes they actually asked allof us to do it and i'm very sad that i didn't because i just would love i mean she of courseheard me on the group text but um charity if you are watching i would love to say that i am
01:01:29just so proud of how you handled yourself.I know it's weird coming from me.I don't know you, but I feel very maternal towards everyone.And I just feel like you are the perfect lead.You are beautiful.You hold yourself so well, intelligent, funny.I love that you love to laugh.And I am so hopeful that you have found your person.
01:01:53I'm here for you always.So just know that.And best of luck getting through the season.I was hoping to see you.Are you crying, stop it?The whole time, I was like, where is she?I want to see you.You're right, so.
01:02:08I just, I, they asked us all to do it.And I was hoping I wanted to do it.But first of all, it's all about timing.We are in the process of selling our home and trying to move.And my kids are just super busy.I honestly, to get ready and actually put the face on,Like, takes me a while.So, tell me about it.
01:02:34Take to get a good solo shower takes a minute.Right?You look great.And that was a lovely piece of advice for her.And I'm sure that she will see that.And I'm sure she will take that in.And she knows that she can go to you.And the fact that you guys are all on a group chat is amazing.
01:02:55I mean, I wish I could see some screenshots, you know, let me know.Well, honestly, there's not a lot of dirt being shared.It's just mostly just supporting each other, like wishing people happy birthday or, you know, congratulations, you're pregnant, you know, that kind of stuff.It's a good little community.You guys have your own little sorority, like you said.It's so great.We do.She's not a pledge anymore.
01:03:18She's in it.That's right.She's not a pledge.But to the same point, I feel like we all are kind of in this big community, you know, Bachelor Nation, whatever you want to call.it. I have pushed for us to do some kind of reunion where they invite every single person whohas ever been on the show. Can you imagine? It would be so many people. So fun. It's like half ofLA and all of the one of the actors. It's so true. But I would be like a one hour specialof just like quick interviews. At least one hours or one hour. Are you kidding me? It'd be like
01:03:54five. Who'd be hanging from the chandelier? Not me.not you uh not me i would be um i would be having my wine and just sitting on the couch andpeople watching and just going out like motherly good advice give me a hug give me a hugget off the chandelier when do you need me you now get down from there get down it's dangerousWell, I'm here for it, and this is so fun.I got to go pick up my kids from school soon, so.I know.Same, same.
01:04:32Okay, I am so thankful that you guys joined me.Thank you so much for spending the last couple hours with meand recapping Charity's first episode.Maybe we'll do it again, everybody.If you want to tune in with us, keep coming back every week.But thanks again, Sadie and Courtney, for joining me.I'm sure Bob sends his love on almost.famous OGs.
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