The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Bill Belichick Makes Bobby Wish He Had a Dad + ASU HC Kenny Dillingham

Episode Date: December 13, 2024

After the surprising news came out this week about Bill Belichick accepting the North Carolina head coaching job, Bobby talks about the reason this makes him wish he had a dad and big Patriots fan, Kickoff Kevin, gives his thoughts. Plus, BIG 12 Coach of the Year Kenny Dillingham of Arizona State joins Bobby to discuss the historical year the program has had, what he has learned from past coaches, and more!    Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's the nature of it You do 100 of them If one gets picked up, that's great But it does have a chance to get picked up Yes And somebody is financing it So they believe it has a shot So but I'm doing

I'm not shooting the pilot today I'm shooting the art Which is the pictures That they then build the art on For the pilot today That's cool man it's fine. I hate doing pictures. Because then I have my suit here. It's in my car. And they were like, wear a full black suit,

black tied, black shirt, whatever. And we run so tight, just in general, because it's morning show, we do you count down. I got commercials to do. We're doing whistles. I'm like a planning, but we're within like two minutes at all times. I will rarely go to the bathroom because I'll empty out before I get here. And so... It happens, happens. We're so tight after get to the shoot coming up. starts in like an hour. I've had no lunch, and it's lunchtime. So I say, do I need to grab lunch ahead of time?

It doesn't matter what the answer is. If it's yes, we've got to place at the bottom of the building. I'll leave five minutes early. Go grab something to eat, head over. If it's no, that means I'll have food there, but I need to know what kind of food. I'm a bit picky with my food. And he says, snacks here and sandwiches.

Here's my problem. Oh, yeah. Stop making sandwiches and put in condiments on them. Put them on the side. I haven't asked yet, but if I get a sandwich with mayonnaise on it, I'm out. I will not eat a single thing. Sally Struthers will have me in a commercial going for 18 cents a month, you can pay,

have Bobby Fed. I will never eat again if it has mayonnaise on it. Just mayonnaise? Like mustard, you're cool with it? Yeah, but just don't do any. Yeah. It's their mayonnaise Do they have

Oh man This might make you sound A little Beyonce I don't care Because this is my guy Oh okay I thought this was just The photo shoot people

No this is Tom Lord Who's my manager Who's setting it all up ahead of time Yeah yeah yeah I thought you were talking Like calling the photographer If so I won't even look at them

And I'll Get my own No Prob LMK Boom When people order, and again, this happens at a lot of different offices, sometimes our office order sandwiches, no condiments. Put them on the side.

Everybody, everybody is fine with that. Because if they're the option to have condiments, you can put them on. But you're eliminating so many people that will not, even if you put mustard on it, don't put it any condiments. Yeah, because I hate mustard. I'm like that with mustard, no way. And you know what, I respect that. I think that's terrible of you, but I respect it.

Well, likewise what the mayonnaise. How do you eat a corn dog, dude? Catch up. It's one bite, one throat. Oh, he doesn't need any comments. Yeah, that makes sense. It's like a pill. He takes it like a pill. Oh, my. Like an Advil. Don't even chew it. Slinging corn dogs. All right on down. Hey, fun story.

The Carolina Panthers are favored for the first time since 2022. Favorite for what? Football in a football game. Oh, my goodness. What's up, what's up, Betty? They're playing the Cowboys. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. So here we are Friday, December 13th, 2024. And for the first time, since we're week 15 of the 2020 season, the Carolina

Panthers are favored to win the game. Look at that. Congratulations, guys. The Panthers are favored to win. They're 3 and 10. They're playing the Cowboys. They're 5 and 8. The Panthers are a two-point favorite at home against the Cowboys. Big steps.

Frontward and backward. Yeah? But you... I know you wanted to win the last game. Because if you'd won the last game, you'd kind of been... Oh, we would have been a huge favor here. No, you'd have been almost back in the mix. Yeah, yeah, you'd be alive.

And I told you that. No, you've been anti- Cowboy. I told you, though, mathematically, we had a chance to go in the playoffs, and now we can't because somebody decided to touch a ball that he knew he shouldn't have touched the ball. We're not allowing you to do this. I've been fighting for the Cowboys the whole time. You quit on them weeks ago, so we're not doing that. You told us.

I have said they've still been alive. They could go 9 and 8, still make it in. No, we're not allowing it. You hate your own team. I don't hate my own team. Yeah, you're like on that show. I hate my own race. And they do like MTV.

They do that? That's a show? Yeah, it was like a version of a show Like I hate my race And they do specials on people They were like Oh my goodness Whatever race they were

They hated their own race That's you Yeah Your race is the Dallas Cowboys And you've been hating them My race is the Dallas Cowboys I said it's pretty accurate right But the Panthers are a favorite

Which pretty crazy I got this ball I want to show you guys something So this is a basketball First The dumbest thing And kind of cool So Tiffany and company

You know when you go to the mall The expensive jewelry store Yes I guess it's not just with the mall I guess they have real They make basketballs now too, I guess. They make, like, really expensive other things. And you could Google some of them.

Who knew they made basketballs? But I looked it up. Kevin, tell us how much a Tiffany... It's Tiffany Blue, like the color of their logo. And I've ever only seen Tiffany's at the mall, maybe a big one, but it's actually a really big, nice jewelry store. I think that stands alone in the major cities. Like in New York.

Yeah, but I don't know. I can save it at the mall. A Tiffany basketball. And it says Tiffany in-coe, New York since 1837. it's the color of their logo that... Teal. Yeah, good. I'm not good with colors.

Yeah, I got you. Tiffany basketball by itself goes for... I see on eBay $300. No, look for a new one. That's way too cheap. And that's probably auction. They're everywhere. 975.

That's about what it is. So this is just the basketball. Yeah, and it's supposed to be like a flex to have one. So it's like, I got my Tiffany basketball. I'll pay $1,000 for it. Dumbest thing. You should never pay for Tiffany basketball. But if you show up to the park with that thing,

like, respect. No, no. respect, the opposite. What are you trying to flex? So I saw this and at times you can get lucky on these auction sites that I'm on because people will list them and they go, the auction turns off at 2 in the morning or 3.30 in the morning and it happened to be up. They don't time out the auction right. So nobody's bidding on it because nobody's awake. So I see a Tiffany basketball and that alone does not make me go, I'd like to have it. But then on the other side, it's two autographs on the Tiffany basketball. Oh, my goodness. Is it what I think it is? I don't know what you're

thinking. Michael Jordan Larry Bird. Magic Johnson So he made it worse But yes I saw MJ It's Michael

It's Magic Johnson and Larry Bird I mean those are the rivals Because yes Larry Bird Versus Magic Johnson They Celtics and Lakers 84 85 and 87

NBA finals They played against each other So I got this ball Which the stupid ball is like $1,000 just to get this ball signed by either one of them $5,000, 700 bucks But I got this whole thing

for like $400 Because it went off at 2 in the morning So I have a stand for I'm going to keep it on my desk so if anybody ever sees like wow Bobby's really buying five that because I could probably sell this for a few thousand bucks now I'm not going to but they're like Bobby's really

Let me help you with that Just stay down Yeah I see a few of those on here too Look at that If you're like man don't tell him Just tell him yeah he's really living it up He probably pay 10 grand for that Say that

Pretty cool huh That's really cool Pretty cool yeah I need to put it on camera but Got that brought that in Oh you want me to put in the front I'll put on the front so it's on camera.

Well, I don't want my Arkansas wall. No, no, no, no. But if you put it next to it, it's going to look all off. I can't have a wobber jar. That's a lot. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, I don't like it. I like my Nolan Richardson ball up front. But we'll keep it up here. Yeah. There's that. We're going to talk to the Arizona State head football coach,

Kenny Dillingham in just a second. Which, by the way, I think he's 34. Is that right? Yeah. That's crazy. I just don't understand. Dilling.

Like, how do you? Well, his story, too, he heard himself playing high school football, then started coaching on the high school team, then went to college and started like volunteer GAing into college. So he started way, way. Yeah. Like he started young. Eventually worked his way all the way. It was Memphis. Offensive coordinator at Oregon under Dan Lannning.

Took the job. I would just think unfairly everyone would see you as like, oh, he's just a young. young kid. Yeah, he's smart. They do. I'm sure they did. And then he just goes to that head coach position and he's in the playoffs. Like that's freaking awesome. Just takes one person to believe. But again, he got, unfortunately, he got started early, meaning at the time it was unfortunate that he had to stop playing ball. But he was able to use that. I would say for me, fortunately, like I started when I was 17, 18 years old, much younger than other people. You know, most people don't even get started just like their early 20s, especially when it was like radio, but we were podcasting immediately.

Podcasting had just started. And there would be all these articles written like, oh, Wiz Kid, pot. It was 25 and we were crushing it in one city in Austin, but we were podcasting everything. And they're like, Wiz Kid. It wasn't that as a Wiz Kid, I was just 25. So I was doing things I was already doing, but most people in that profession at that position, they weren't doing those things. They were 40s and 50s. So they weren't podcasting because they weren't doing that in their real life. and they were looking at it like, no, regular radio is here to stay. Why do I care if somebody down? So I would be complimented all the time.

Like, man, you're so ahead of the curve. And I'm outwardly, I was like, yeah, it's tough being a genius. But inwardly, it was only that I happened to be young and was living that and would just take the things that I was living and put it into work. It was fortunate that I started very early doing, switching out of CD on the weekends, right? and then from that, I did weekend nights and nights and very small towns and cities. But I started so early that I was always the youngest at what I did for a long time. And a bit of this is that version of the story too, because even with his style, like it's young,

he's able to communicate with the players differently. And people are like, wow, he does it. He just does it like he does it like he does a normal life. And people are going, why, he's doing it all this new way. He's really thought it out. But I think that's just part of who he is as a person and how he interacts with people his age. So it comes across different. It hits a bit different to everybody who's just to seeing it one way.

That's because most coaches are 40s, 50, 60, 70s, you know? Yeah. So it's all, anyway, at a good time. It took a second, I think, for him to understand that... Style. Our style. Yeah. And I think he's doing a decent amount of press now because get it while you can get it.

Everybody wants to talk to Arizona State. And I think I was like, first question asked him, I was like, hey, you got a little place to eat at it. It wasn't like, we never asked him about his age, and I'm sure everybody does that. I mean, we know how old he is. Why ask him about it? It was like when we talked to Jerry Rice's son and never asked about Jerry Rice. He had to be like, that's the first time anybody's ever doing an interview and not asked about Jerry Rice. You think that they're on edge? Like, when are they going to ask it? When are they going to ask it? It's coming. It's coming. You know, you almost like wait for it. Edge, no. Do they have the expectation of it? Yes. Do they know it's probably part of it? Yeah, sure.

Like, I know if I'm going to do an interview, and I don't mind talking about it all the time, but if it's not a country, they're always going to ask about dancing with the stars. I don't always want to talk about dancing with the stars. There are certain parts of it that are fun for me to talk about. But I know if it's like an LA thing, they're going to be like, former Dancing with the Stars champion, and they'll ask about some element of it or somebody who, and I just kind of get through it.

Or if there's a controversy in country music, those are the ones I get a little worried about because sometimes they'll lure you in and then be like, hey, so Morgan Wallin. you know what I do now new trick to anybody who is ever in a situation where someone's interviewing you or you

Eddie asked me a question let's make up a scenario Philip Johnson say Philip Johnson rumored to have done some really bad things but only asked that question after he asked me a music question so right everybody I'm on entertainment tonight

I'm doing a thing oh thanks for having me what's up yeah bones what's your favorite song right now I like the Co-Wetzel song High Road's really good and he just played on the show like him and I have become you know not great friends but we're pretty good friends good guy really good singer

Jim Johnson what's his name I forgot of yeah yeah tell me about what's going on with Jim Johnson I mean he's man I got in some trouble lately like what's your whole thought about that all that okay so uh I will I I will just stare I will say nothing because they can use nothing if you give them nothing especially if they don't tell me it's happening if I know like hey we're going to ask you about this and then I still agree to do it, I'm fine to answer whatever question you want. Or even if I have a great answer for it, but they try to sneak attack me with something so they can get a headline or a click, that is what I do. And you just stare at it. Dude, I just look at it.

And I don't go, I can't hear you. Wow. I will just hold the gaze. Do you hold without blinking? Like, do you let it be known? No, it's not a stare at a game. It's just like a, sorry, you must have not have heard me. I said Jim, Johnson.

Yeah, I wonder if they'd say that. They'd say that. It looks like our signal may be off. Bobby, we can't hear what you're saying. Bobby, are you okay? Oh, yeah, I'm good. I'm good. Okay.

Wow. Okay, moving on. If you give them nothing, they can use nothing. Wow. I also don't do written interviews anymore because there's no tone, no room for nuance. They can really slice and dice it however they want. There are times I'd write things. And I'd say, well, man, I said that.

But I was joking like it's a tone. So with him, we definitely have a style. and I think it took him a second to get our style and then he was awesome. Oh yeah. But at first I think he was like, what the he left the guard down a little bit and you're like, oh, yeah, yes, the guard definitely came down.

A couple other things here. And that's when we got on with an age question. Boom! Just kidding. You're so young. So what's it like? How'd you do it? So Eddie's sad about the Cowboys, or is that over?

What? The sadness? Oh, yeah, I'm not sad anymore. I mean, the game was very, Like, very rollercoaster ride-ish, and I couldn't believe what was happening. And then when it ended, the way it did, I was like, well, that's, of course, that's how it ends. Like, that's how the Cowboys do things. We'll do a quick check-in.

Kick off Kevin with the Patriots. Beautiful. We're having a great season. Drake May is the man. The only thing, and it's pretty big, is Gerard Mayo that I'm questioning. If you watch the games, you'll see it. There's some coaching styles. You're like, dude, what are you doing?

He just kind of looks lost out there. It doesn't show any emotion, which is fine, but it's like you've got to get in the game, and there's a lot of penalties, a lot of mistakes. They look like a badly coach football team. The no emotion thing is funny, because if you're winning, the no emotion thing is awesome. You're like, nothing affects him.

He's dialed in. Yeah. Very Belichick. Yeah, if you're Belichick, cool. But when you're losing, it's like he doesn't care. It's the same thing with the coach of the big personality. Like, you love a guy. He's all over the place.

When you're winning, but when you're losing, you're like, well, maybe if he was such an idiot all the time, he'd focus on football. Mike McDaniel. That was Rex Ryan with the Jets. It's exactly that. How do you feel about the Belichick to North Carolina? It's weird.

I think everyone feels like totally random. I didn't know about the ties way back in like the 40s or something with his dad. His dad. Assistant coach, though. Yeah, I know. It was the head coach. I think they kind of searched for that tie. I don't think that was one where Belichick was like, I'm really doing this for my dad.

Because you know all about his dad coaching at, I believe, Navy or Army, one of the two. You know all about that. We've heard that for years. So to me, it's almost like he's just taking this job for something new, a new challenge. for whatever reason, then his son's in the college game now. So maybe, or he's definitely going to bring his son and then maybe kind of set him up for something. So I think it's just a new challenge for him. It's kind of boring to me because it's North Carolina, which is a basketball school more than anything. That's why it's fun. But they got to, they have 20 million

bucks to spend in NIL. This story makes me wish I had a dad. And I'm going to tell you why. Yeah, explain that. It's not the only story ever that's made me feel that way, but this story makes me wish I had a dad. Because part of the deal with Belichick taking this job is after two years, his son is the head coach in waiting. Yeah. So how cool would that be if my dad was just like, he just showed up now today and he goes, hey, I'm going to take the Kent State job. I'm like, well, I haven't seen you in forever.

Like, we have no relationship, but what are you saying? He goes, I'm going to take the Kent State job, but you can be the head coach in two years. Let's go. Hello, dad. I love you, daddy. Oh, thank you. Yeah, so, yeah, so his son, according to reports, is the head coach in waiting. That was one of the stipulations.

After two years? Mm-hmm. The fact that Belichick had a 400 page, and I love the word manifest, because that's usually what Unabombers use and murderers. 400-page manifesto on how to run the program and turn it into an NFL pipeline. 400 page? And they're giving him a bunch of money.

He's not getting paid. I mean, he's going to pay it a lot for normal, but 10 million bucks a year is not what you would expect Belichick to make because it's the greatest of all time, NFL head coach. But the $20 million for NIL is where it's at. It doesn't really need the money. Imagine being like a kid's parent, like Eddie.

your kid was old enough to get recruited and he walked in your living room. Like, how cool would that be? Amazing. I mean, we wouldn't look at any other school. You would. You would go to where the most money was. You wouldn't. Especially if your kid is not a first-year, first-rounder.

This is going to be, it's really cool to meet Bill Belichick, and Bill Belichick's going to go after kids he thinks he can put in the NFL. There are going to be some guys in the mid. But no, you would go where the most money is. Really? Yeah. Of course, you have a... I feel like my son would be like, I don't know who this guy is, whatever, it's fine.

I would be like, Mr. Belich. How do you like your guy? state. You would love that part. Mr. Belichick, do you make anything of the whole, like, political, he hates the NFL politics now and that's why he didn't want to go back? Probably always hated the NFL politics. But doesn't he want to go back

and break Shula's record and stuff like that? He's like a teenage number away. I think 14 games, I want to say. Yeah. Whoa. So that was what was the most surprising part to me. He didn't go back. Because you're two mid-season away from breaking

the record. And obviously that's not the most important thing down because I think you would have got a job somewhere. Maybe it wasn't a job he thought he could win eight and six games. But like Cincinnati might be available for him, you know what I mean? You think he'd be able to get the wins with Joe Burrow. I don't think Cincinnati's going to be available. You think Zach Taylor is going to stay? I do. Yeah. I think they've had a very unfortunate personnel. They'll fire the DC. Yeah.

Yeah. So the thing with Belichick too is just on the money thing. The people are like, man, I can't believe he's leaving our team. People just sit with Arkansas all the time. They must not love the hog. We only want people who love the hog. I hear you. Like, I understand what you're saying

if this is 25 years ago. Yeah. But the culture now is you get to get paid. And if you're not a for sure NFL prospect, a absolutely for sure. And even the ones that are pretty sure NFL prospects young are not for sure NFL prospects.

If you're not a for sure NFL prospect, that could be the most money you ever make in your whole life those four years. Why you're not going to go to where you can make the most money you're ever going to make in your whole life and set yourself up, it would be irresponsible not to check the portal every year to see what you can get. And I hate that people are leaving and that part is annoying as a college football fan, but the rules are the rules.

And until they fix it, I would live that. This could be the most money they ever make in their entire life. And they're supposed to just like love the hog on the helmet? No. You get $700,000 because you can go to Ole Miss and you're getting $150 at Arkansas. You're able to stay because you love the helmet? No. Arkansas then needs to figure out a way if, in their opinion, you're worth $700,000 to make $700,000.

It's always been a business. It's a different business now. It's a bit more unregulated, but the regulations are coming. But for people that are like, this is a joke. I thought they said they loved Arkansas. they love the hog or they love being a rebel they love yeah they probably did that year and i'm not saying they only did it because of the money but they would be irresponsible not to go and it'd be like if you had one year contracts here and you for sure could stay here and we're like we'd love to

you can stay here for another year come back same same salary everything and you never went and checked anywhere else yeah to go see am i worth more somewhere else now and you can't do that you have a contract multi years i have a contract multi years but they don't yet in I love the bones too. I love working for the bones. You get love with the bones on the helmet. But I would absolutely understand if you, at the end of every of your one-year contract, we're like, I think I'm going to go and check out. But if you got in, you probably aren't coming back. But I would understand if you went somewhere else for more money. That's that's capitalism. So back to like the deciding whether you go to a school for more money or play for Belichick,

is there value to playing for Belichick because there will be eyeballs on you? Yes, there's value, yes, absolutely. Like say you're not a million dollar prospect, but you are really, really good, and people will see you. You will be a starter, and they will see you playing for you and see you playing for you. You're not going to know you're a starter, so I would remove that. Everything you're saying is true, but I would remove the you're going to be a starter. Because if you're going to the freshman, you're probably not going to be a starter.

They don't even recruit. How freshmen are being recruited, the 5, 4, even the three-star guys, it's like 30% of what it used to be. They all get recruited, but the focus now is the portal. Why would you not get an older guy that's played and has been proven more so? Like the five-star guys still go, the Underwoods that flip Michigan. He's Michigan now from L.

Those guys still making tons of money. But you're going, well, he's got to play. You're paying a bunch of money. He's got to play. So I've seen stories of high school kids that are like, I just got moved by fourth star and I've had like four schools to reach out. Or it's all mids. Yeah.

And you've got to think the head coach isn't necessarily flying to each home. anymore. It's someone else on the staff a little lower. GA, whoever it might be defensive guy. Instead of Belichick, now it's going to be some kid that graduated from North Carolina two years ago. There is absolutely value in playing for Bill Belichick if your goal is to either a diehard North Carolina fan, you'll make a little money because they're going to pay a little money, or B, you really want to go to the NFL and you want to get in that system because he says something like, hey, I believe that if you're in the system for a couple to a few years,

I can develop you into an NFL player. Like that. There's value in that if that is what your ultimate goal is. But also the understanding of that goal can be torn away at any time with an injury. So there's value, but it's not pure value. Got it. Especially if you're a highly recruited kid that's going to get paid, you should also be getting paid at North Carolina.

You shouldn't just go because you're being compensated in Belichekians, whatever currency that is. But it is going to help. It's going to bring eyeballs to the program. Look at Deion Sanders. Yeah. It's awesome for North Carolina. Yeah, and imagine being a GM in the NFL calling Belichick, hey, what about this kid?

What do you think? They're not going to trust anyone else more than that. In so many ways it's going to help. But it is not going to be the absolute main deciding factor because these kids have four years, possibly five to make the most money. Or Cam, Cam, I feel like I've seen. Yeah, Cam's been playing for 10 years. So I do not fault anybody, even players on my own team that started for leaving. If someone's like, hey, what you do.

Luke. Yeah, no, yeah, he's probably going to go to Ole Miss, and that sucks. Yeah. And personally, I can be like that sucks for me because I'm a Razorback fan, and I like Luke Oz, and he was almost a five-star. It was like right on that edge, number one recruited at Oklahoma. I'd paid him money to do NIL stuff. But if the market is and the game is, every year you get to reassess your value,

and you're not getting the value that you think you should, and you can get value in different ways. You can just love living in Fayetteville, if you're like your girlfriend's there, your family's there. Maybe you take a less. people in the real world take a little less money to live somewhere they like. Stupid question, but do your credits transfer? Dude, what do I know? I'm sure most of them.

You know what I mean? I would assume. Can I just go to UCF and all my stuff transfers? Probably. To Stanford? Probably, yeah. All right. Yeah. So the Belichick thing's cool. Yeah. It's cool and as in it's new.

Like it's fun to talk about it. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I saw someone making a comparison. It was like, when Nebraska was making a hire many years ago, there was this new young upstart from a G4, and his name was Urban Meyer, and they didn't choose him. Instead, they went with Callahan, who had won a Super Bowl,

and now it looks like North Carolina's going to do the same thing with Belichick, and I'm like, Callahan and Belichick are not the same. No. They're just not the same. So the comparison, it's not even apples to oranges, it's apples to car tires.

Yeah. So... Very different. Yeah. So it's fun. because it's something cool to talk about. When does Kevin walk in with a UNC shirt? Oh, good question.

Oh, God. Well, he's got to be a ban... Yeah, he's got a family's man. He's got a lot of decisions. I know, man. Each day of the week, I'm going to have a different team on it. So let's talk about the parlay for a second. The 25 whistles parlay.

We're going to do NFL this week. I do... You can touch that Cowboys game? I mean, it feel like... Well, no, you guys can jump out on this one. Oh, no. Okay, let's do it. You can do one, well, all three if I'm looking at the whole slate here.

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It feels so solid. That's probably stupid. I know. And the Chiefs play every game type. So I'll go Chiefs minus four and a half at the Browns. Kevin. Yeah, I'm going to go our hometown team here. They're barely hanging on.

Bengals are playing well, so Bengals minus five at Type. You were going to go Titan? Heck no, dude. Like, whoa. No. Trying to make a lot of smiley faces. Okay. Edward.

All right, so we're just going to wait until the end of the day. So we'll watch y'all's game, see if they clear. And then we will wait for the big one. Seattle, man, just always proves us wrong. They're still plus two and a half. They're at home against the Packers. I think we're going Seattle. Plus two and a half.

I like that one. Taking a doggy dog. Let's go, baby. Again, take the 25 whistles parlay. Drafking sports book. New users use the code Bobby Sports. One word. When you download the app.

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in the Big 12 heading into the season. Not only did they win the conference. They also earned a buy in the first round in the college football playoff. Gotta be super busy, but I know it was a priority to talk to us. Yeah, yeah. He was rushed in.

You got to do this. He'll be back. He was like, guys, I was right in the middle of an offensive meeting. We're changing it up, but I want to talk to you guys first. We appreciate Coach for coming on. This is awesome. Here he is. Coach, thank you so much for the time.

Here's my question for you to start off. Is there like a local eating establishment that's like your place right now that you can go to? There's a lot. Cold beer and cheeseburgers is one of them. That's the name of it? Cold beer and cheeseburgers. Is it different to go there now? And this is why I asked this.

Is it different to go there now as from six months ago even? Well, people are more excited. Yeah, I mean, like for you, like you probably get a lot more like, hey, coach, right? Yeah, you get quite more hello's than you did when you're three and nine. I'll say that much. Do you walk around with a Sharpie now? I do not. I do not.

I mean, because if I saw you, I'd be like, oh, it's coach. I don't even have anything to sign. The weirdest is, and this will happen sometimes with me too, and they'll be like, hey, will you sign and they have nothing? They're like, my phone or the worst is their body part. You ever signed a body part, coach? I have not. Okay, you're not.

You'll be there soon enough. I got good feelings. I'm not as famous as you. No, no, no. Like, you're legendary. Not true. Not there yet. You'll be signing body parts like crazy.

I got a great feeling about this, coach. Okay, so here's my real question. You got two teams you could possibly play. How do you split up the work on scouting? both teams. Do you split it amongst your staff or do you do them both? Well, you're doing both in terms of like overall breakdown. And then for us, we're really doing our own self-scouts. So we're evaluating us and saying what we need to change in this next week and a half. And then once we get an opponent, we'll really dive into the opponent then. But we're

really focused on us here these next 10 days. Will you find things when you self-scout that you're like, man, if somebody would have just noticed this about us, they really would have found a vulnerability? 100%. Give me an example. You'll find a thing. Yeah, it's pretty, there's some times that you look up and you're like, dang, like we've been giving this away for two weeks.

This is bad. You ever get one of those? And there was a story where, I forget which quarterback it was, and they knew whenever his feet were not right beside each other when they were one in front of the other was going to be a run play. And I, you don't even give me an example. example, like specifically, but do you ever see that on film and you're so tipped off? It could be an elbow. It could be. And the whole game, you're able to cue in on that and it pays off big time.

Oh, we had a game this year where we knew runner pass every single play of the opponent. And every play we knew it based off of some tendency that we caught watching the tape. And people think self-scout is about like your schemes and what play you're calling and all that. To me, self-scout is about making sure you're not giving away the tendencies of run, pass, of a guard pulling of those types of things, just as much as is what player you're calling. A few years ago, I hired two people that I respected, that they don't work with me at all, to listen to, because it's a national show, and I was like, listen to it, and if you were to launch a show against me, how would you beat me?

And so they're not part of an organization, but I paid two different people. They did not know that I'd hired someone else, and I was like, give me every vulnerability you can possibly find. So if someone tries to do what I do, I've already got it covered. So when you say self-scouting, I'm assuming it's your guy self-scouting yourself, but will you bring in, we'll call it outside counsel to scout you as well? Not as much, to be honest, because that's just not really what the industry is. We have some people that are in-house that, like we have a defensive guy who,

coach Gibbs, who's been a defense coordinator in college football, who works on our offensive side of the ball just to do self-scout and stuff like that. So it's almost like an internal audit, but we don't have somebody outside of the program do that, no. Pretty good idea, though. I just gave a pretty good idea, didn't I? Uh-huh.

You did. Actually, I may call some, a few people right now. Let's go. You know, I may call some people right. We got 10 days or nine days. They may as well create a game plan for us and then tell us what that game plan is. And if it's somebody that hates you,

they'll even try harder. You know, yeah, like find somebody from Arizona and be like scout me, tell me how we suck. And then you know they're going to go extra hard, coach. That's exactly right. So we may find some people out there. Growing up and then coaching there, there is this, it's pretty cool. But it's also it can be, it made me a bit nervous.

I mean, at T.C. We were hanging out with their basketball coach. And, you know, he played ball there. And he was an All-American there. And he came back to be the head coach there. And he's like, hey, there's a thing about coaching where you're from. because it's awesome when you're winning, but when you're not, it can be tough because this is like what you grew up loving

and now they cannot love you back. And again, you're new to the situation here because you're having success and it's not like you've been there a long time, but is that something that you weighed when taking the job? Oh, not really. I just wanted to come home and do it at the place that I was passionate about. But that's spot on. I mean, there's so much more pressure when you want to be somewhere.

in this industry because, you know, it's like you don't want to fail where you want to be. Like nobody wants to fail, but it's even bigger when like you're failing. And the people you're failing are the people that you went to elementary school with and middle school with and college with and high school with. And you grew up with their families. Like so it's a little bit more, I would say personal when you do it at home. Do you get a lot of people from like school that are like, hey, coach, we had friends forever. And they really haven't been your friend forever.

but you knew them and now they're like friends again because you're winning. Yeah. I went into more people that are like, hey, great to see you again. I'm like, we went to what, like middle school together? And I think we spoke twice. Yeah. Yeah, great to see you. I mean, it's awesome.

For me, that ends up being cousins. Cousins that I really don't know that I had. And they're like, hey, I'm your cousin. I'm from Arkansas. So we're all related somehow. But they're like, I'm your cousin. Can I get tickets to something? that's the tough one for me.

I bet growing up where you're playing, though, you get that all the time. Yeah, my mom's from Arkansas. So there you go. It's my cousin. I bet she's my cousin. Yeah. You guys are really is. Yeah, no doubt. So I like to talk about a few of the guys that you worked under because, again,

I have relationships with some of them like Gus Malazahn. And Gus just went to Florida State to be the offensive coordinator there. Like, what, because Gus is a quirky guy. What about Gus do you think you have taken or you learned in that situation? Yeah, I definitely took the leadership council. He had a group of guys that were his leadership council that he would meet with, basically weekly, and go through basically the state of the program, what the guys are thinking, all that type of stuff. Do we need to practice harder, practice less? This kid's going through problems.

He's just not going to tell you. And I really felt like that allowed him to have a grasp of his program, the culture of the program at a really high level. And we've taken that here. And I've taken a lot of those principles and applied them. What about Coach Lanning? Coach Langing, just the genuine intensity. You know, I've known Coach Lanyon. Coach Lennon came to my wedding.

I've known since I was a high school coach. And I took some practice structures from him, from a defensive perspective. I had only worked for offensive coaches, really. So I stole some of his defensive practice structures and then the intensity of the work in all aspects of it. When you're an offensive guy and you're O.C. up at Oregon and you come down to Arizona State. And again, like you said, you've been an all.

offensive guy. Is it a constant? Because I'm sure you're always wanting to develop and grow offensively. But again, you're a little behind defensively because that hasn't been your specialty. Are you learning defense as you go? Do you have your guys in to kind of teach you some of the fundamental things that maybe you didn't know because you haven't experienced it at the level that you have offensively? And is that constant? Yeah. Oh, that's a great question. So I definitely learn the schemes of the schemes. So if you're a good offense coordinator, you should understand defensive schemes and schematics and how things fit and how things work and how they should

go together and who should cover what and all that. It's definitely what the ladder of what you just said, the fundamentals and the techniques and the nuances of the defense. So in terms of like, oh, I always thought this defensive end always did blank. Now it's a reaction based off what the offensive player does. So I'm learning more of the nuances and the fundamentals from the defense side of the ball. But the schematics, in my opinion, is ying and yang.

When you're talking offensive and defense, good coordinators have to know both schematics. So definitely learning the fundamentals at a higher rate. Now you've had a year with the In-Hellment communication. Thoughts on it? Yeah, I love it. I think it's great for the game. It's great for, I mean, coaches to be able to communicate

when they feel like they have a tendency on somebody and they can change a call, you know, with 20 seconds left in the play clock. I think it's great. Coach, how many comp tickets do you get for the playoffs game? Like, can you invite all your family plus a bunch of friends? I don't know, to be honest. I'll be honest. I do football.

My wife does everything else. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I would not have lights that turn on at my house without my wife. So I just do football. She texts my family more than I text my family in season. Like she's the one updating people. Like I literally would not be a functional human without her. Yeah, the story is you hurt yourself in high school or started coaching in high school.

Were you good enough as a high school player, though, to play college ball before the injury? Heck no. Okay, you're being humble because everybody says that coach. But seriously, all honesty on the table. were not going to play college ball. You did not think you could do it. I mean, not. Maybe, you know, maybe I could have. No. No. I could. I'd be lying. I'm 5'9. I'm unathletic. I've had like five knee surgeries now. I've torn both my Patel attendance on my left knee and my right knee, which supposedly never happens. Like, I was not

meant to play. I was meant to coach. You think genetically you just have bad Patel attendance? Or do you think you just walk funny because I get the same calluses on the same side of my feet because I think I walk a little funny. Which one is it? I mean, I think it's both genetically. I don't have jeans. And then I just think something's wrong with my knees. I still go out there and try to hoop and play basketball. You know, I got a mean Euro step. But every once in a while, you know, my buddy just says, you know, no soup for you. And it gives up. All right. We have three final questions for you. Before the season started, obviously you guys were picked last. We've heard that a bunch. Did you know maybe we're not going to win the conference? I'm not saying you knew you'd win the

conference, but did you know you would be better than what they thought you would be going into the season? Yes, I knew that. I knew our guys were wired right, and I knew we had the talent. What do your players say about you when you're not around? What do you think? That's a goofy dude, man. coaches the goofy guy. Now, he's got to keep it real with you. He's going to be honest with you, but he's a goofy dude. That's what I think.

I don't know, though. Have you used the same speech at halftime? Or do you even motivate at halftime? It's halftime mostly for, let's fix scheme things. Let's correct things. It changes every halftime. Different message, you know. A few weeks ago, I was very animated at halftime.

this last week with a title game I pretty much only said one plate of time earn it like very calm so I really just try to feel the vibe of the room and go off that Do you hate when they have to stop you at half time to answer the one question when it's always the same question?

I actually don't I don't mind people and I mean 30 seconds like is that really going to affect if we win or lose the football game? No I know other people act like oh this 30 seconds is going to be the difference, me sprinting into this locker room, it's not at all. So I don't mind it.

All right. Final one here regarding the 12-team playoff, just your general thoughts. I love it. I think it's the best thing, the college football, the best part about college football is this and has been the best in the past 15 years, in my opinion. As a coach, love, hate? I love it. I mean, I love competition. So this is just another way to compete. And, you You know, it's great to be in there and in this tournament in the playoff with some of the blue bloods throughout the country. And I think that's what's the most exciting is you get to see Arizona State's brand and you get to see it with programs that have been one of the top programs in the country for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years. And that's exciting. Well, and also you get a week off, which is great, but it's four more weeks for some of these teams if they make it.

And we haven't seen. That's unprecedented with the amount of games and then the weeks to your players. Is it like take care of yourselves a little more than you ever have? Like what are you doing physically with these guys? Yeah, we gave them a full week off this week to get their body and really go home. And this is a remarkable season. So go home. Let everybody tell you how good you are.

Let everybody patch you on the back and do all that. Like great job. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And then when we get back on Sunday, let's get back to the truth, which is that people think we're the worst team. the history of the playoff. So we better get back to work. Unless we want to prove them right, we better get back to work.

So this week, get your body right, get your mental right. Then let's show up Sunday. Let's face the harsh reality that a lot of people think that we still suck and we've got to change that narrative. No, I think some people think Getsam you suck. I think people think Clemson kind of sucks. I don't think you guys

suck. I've watched a bunch of your games. I think people think it's like, oh, we didn't expect them to be here. They might kind of suck. I'm going to keep it real with you coach. I think most people, because you know, you're insulated. Most people think, holy crap, Scadaboo's awesome. Wow, look at the offense. We missed out on a lot of the games because you're West Coast time zone. That hurts. That hurts for you guys to be seen. But now I think people are starting to go, these guys are actually pretty good and they're kind of fun to watch. And obviously, you're out of control, which is

hilarious. I love it. Like, when the crowd came on the field, like, I was like, oh, that would be what I would do, too, if they came on early. But here's one final, final question. What is, like, your favorite charity or something that you work with, and you'll see why I'm asking this, what is your favorite charity that you work with that you're passionate about? Yeah, the Boys and Girls Club, just because it's fitting with kind of what I do professionally. It's just helping people kind of get to where they didn't think they could get to in life through sport. Okay, here's what I'm going to do. I hate Texas. I mean, I wish that the hole would open up right now and they'd suck in the hole. And I lived in Austin, 12 years, love Austin, hate the longhorns. That's the worst color I've ever seen in

life. So I hope they get sucked in a hole in a day. Clemson and I hate almost as much. Like those are the two, if you beat either one of them, I'm going to give a thousand bucks to that, to the, to the boys and girls club where you are just because I'm so happy you beat, not even because you came on the show, because I hate those teams so much, it's going to be worth it to me to see you beat them. There you go. That's the deal. I appreciate it. And by the way, I'm not going to show my team the clip of you saying good things in a minute to go. I'm going to keep that out of my presentation. Yeah, yeah. And here's the bad things. Man, you guys are too small, too slow. Nobody believes in you. And that's what everybody's saying.

Perfect. Perfect. Coach, I appreciate the time rooting for you. And have a good next couple weeks. Thank you. Go Devils. All right. See, Coach. I saw this online from this account, college sports only. They said, imagine January 1st of this year, 2024. Someone comes up to you. He's like, hey, come here, man. You're like, what's up? This is kind of weird. He goes, I'm going to give you some secrets. You're never going to believe this is going to happen, but get ready. And you're like, all right. And he says, Indiana football, they're going to be.

good. They're going to be in the college football playoff. I'd be like bullshit. You lie. SMU. It's going to be a tight race between them and Alabama. That's funny. And the panel's going to pick SMU. I'm walking off. Shut up, you idiot.

Boise State and Arizona State, not only will they be in the playoffs, but they'll be two of the four buys. That's insane. Ohio State would have a legislator in their state try to make flag planting a felony. So soft. If you didn't see, yeah.

There's somebody who's like, it's like a sportsmanship rule. They're like no planting flags in the field. You know, even the Ohio State people are like, that makes us look like such weiner. Yeah, we don't know this guy. Yes. Also, come here, I got more secrets for you.

I don't know, man. The crap you already told me I can't believe. But no, no, come on over. Nick Saban's going to be the funniest member of college game day He is really funny Nick Saban is he didn't say anything Trust me on this one The two that I think are crazy

Is And I think you've got to kind of be a college football nerd For it to matter as much But the fact that Scott Frost is going back to UCF Because he was at UCF when they won their quote national championship They didn't play in the national championship But they went undefeated They claimed the national championship

Yeah Yeah Then he went to Nebraska to where he played ball and he was like the prodigal sons coming home. They were so pumped.

Yes. And it didn't work out. So he got fired from Nebraska. But now he's going back to UCF, which is pretty crazy. Scott Frost is going

back to the school that he went to before he could get to his main school. So it's always weird when someone goes back. Not only that, Rich Rodriguez

is going back to West Virginia. That's a while. Crazy. Same thing. Rich Rod killed it at West Virginia. Yeah, the Pat White, Steve's Sankton days.

Yeah. You'll never believe this. But what's up? I got to go, I got to get to work and I got two more secrets for you. All right. Bill Belichick.

Yeah? He'll be coaching Carolina. The Panthers? Wow, that's what? No. North Carolina. The North Carolina Tar Hills. What?

Shut. You're drunk. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to go ahead and go. Well, let me give you one more. Oh, my. Okay.

There was a team last year that almost wanted all and they were, some would say they were cheated. They're going to have a big year this year. Not. Florida States. gonna go two in ten because of a dog poop curse

well what's the dog poop curse a guy will claim he will eat a cup full of dog crap if they lose and will not eat the dog crap and they will lose every game after basically the end and then he walks away I'd be like none of that's happening he vanishes disappears in a puff of smoke exactly that a crazy year

crazy year just in general I didn't even throw with a vandy who's gonna be a pretty good team and they beat Alabama And they beat Alabama. Which leads to the thing I had loaded up next. Come on. SAC Coach of the Year, Coach Clark Lee. Awesome.

That's awesome. Yeah, we clap it up. That's our guy. You know your program has been terrible if you go six and six and win Coach of the Year. But yeah, the first time to be a top five team in like decades, first time to be Alabama, decades. Maybe first time ever to be a top five team. But I know Alabama was like 40 years, something like that. Yeah.

We love Coach Clark Lee. It's a coach of the year. That's awesome. That's awesome. super happy for him. And then I was reading about the Burlesworth Trophy, and so that goes to the nation's top walk-on, who now is not a walk-on, who's a scholarship

player, but at one point he walked on. But I went to Bryce Bocher, I think I'd say his last name, but watch and play at Oregon. He began his career as a walk-on when Coach Lannning took over the team. He leads the duck now with 87 tackles and 45 solo tackles. He's like the guy. He's a walk-on,

which is pretty cool. Baker Mayfield Walk on twice, by the way. Remember when Bryce was in the wait room when we were there? He was. He got drafted when we were in there. Same guy. He got the call. Yeah, he got drafted in MLB.

Oh, wow. Oh, wait. Yeah, that was the call. He was waiting on the call and he got the call. Yeah, when we were working out and he started going crazy. Like, what's going on? Oh, he just got drafted. He's like an outfielder, I think.

Wow. Yeah. Burlesworth's trophy school. Yeah. Named after Arkansas guy, Brandon Burlesworth. I've seen the movie on... Grater? Yeah, Grater's, like, pops up.

I've never seen it, though. Is it good? They say it's good. I won't watch it. I watched it a couple years ago. It was good. Why won't you watch it? Because I hear from people that, like, know him.

And I've worked a lot with the Burlesworth Foundation and his brother and stuff, that it is a, I think it's a really good movie. But I think there are some liberties taking to make it sweet and wholesome. Yeah, Hollywood. Yeah, and that's great. And I'm not hating on it at all. I know the story. I mean, walked on, became an All-American, was drafted by the Colts, got a car wreck and died before he, you know. But it was a walk-on.

But, yeah, Baker was a walk on twice, which is crazy. Because he walked on it, Tech. Oh, I didn't realize that. And then he moved to Oklahoma. Wasn't even on the team. Left Tech, just moved there. And was like, I'd like to come. And they were like, are you even enrolled here?

That's like Rudy. Yeah. You don't even come to school here. Gets on the team, sits behind Kyler, I think, for a year. I think that was because they've had so many in a row. I know. And then became. They were back to back.

And then won a Hizman. yeah, Kyler won the Heisman, then Baker who walked on twice. Baker won the Heisman. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I thought that was cool. Those are the things I had there. Caitlin Clark wins out of the year.

Good for her. She's the greatest athlete. My favorite athlete right now, period. It's not a lot to talk on her because she's getting good. No, we won't overexpose. But she's awesome, and I hope she crushes it again in year or two.

And we'll probably go up there and do some stuff. Oh, yeah. That'd be cool. The entire college football team could enter the transfer portal over Yeah, what school is that? Well, McConaughey coaches it? Maconohay coaches?

Matthew McConaughey's coach? No. Oh, Marshall. That's what it is. We are Marshall. We are Marshall. Yeah, there we go. I was like Texas?

When the portal opened up, the list of players that threw their names into the ring and every school was all over the place, but Marshalls, they could lose their entire roster to the portal after losing their coach 24 hours after winning the Sunbelt Championship. Basically, the entire Marshall football team is entering the portal.

could all those guys follow him to southern miss well that's what signetti had a bit happen with james madison like he took a bunch of his guys but it wasn't for the same reason because their their coach was fired oh was he fired i think so was he not after losing like how is the whole team going to go everybody can go individually so the whole team can go yeah i know but there's got to be one person be like hey ad i'll stay here with maybe he wasn't fired i thought he was fired and they were all he left his position but to do what though because if it's like to be the coach at Southern Miss. The head coach?

Is that kind of a lateral move? That's what I'm saying. Like, I feel like he was told that that wasn't a, you're getting a promotion type move. What do I know? I don't know crap. A couple other final things. Let's take a break, Mike.

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I felt like I got hit by her. a truck. I thought how could this happen to me? The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. I said, oh hell no. I vowed. I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves. Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So there was this side by side of Cam Rising, who he mentioned earlier who played many years at Utah. So it has another season of college. Oh, he's got one more. He got hurt again. That's crazy. Him and Trevor Lawrence side by side. So in 2017, Trevor Lawrence, senior year at Cartersville High School, Cam Rising, Senior Year at Newbury Park High School. Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, same year, high school seniors. Oh, wow, that's crazy. So they're the same age? 2018, Trevor Lawrence goes to Clemson. Twenty-18, Cam Rising goes to Texas. Wow.

2019, Clemson, 2020, Clemson for Trevor Lawrence. Jacksonville Jaguars, he's been there for four years, signed a big deal, be there for many more. Cam Rising has played at Utah for one, two, three, four, five, six years. Forever. Probably another one. That's insane. Are they the same age, though, or is it kind of like, okay. Yeah, I mean, high school seniors, so I'm sure they're like six months apart or something.

Well, they hold people back now, so. Okay, but even one year. One year. Yeah, I would say. Cam Rising. looks 40 when he was like 20. Yeah. And we shall wrap with,

oh, by the way, the Simpsons thing wasn't that good. It was not good. I didn't watch any of it. I watched about five minutes of it. And I love The Simpsons. I mean, I thought it was cool that Homer

through the past, you know, there's like Cid Land. Like, that's cool when they do little stuff like that. Yeah. But even like my kids were there

and they were just like, Dad, can we go to the real game? Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't as good as when they did the toy story? The toy story. What was the other one you said?

The slime one? Oh, that was like a old. Yeah, that was one too. That one had real players, but they had the, like, Nate Burleson commentating, but they would do, like, effects, like slime and stuff. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so the Toy Story one was like, yeah.

I watched a little of that one, like, two years ago maybe. I just loved the slinky as the yard markers. That was cool. That had all the characters. That's clever. This had, like, randoms, but then occasionally a Simpsons character, and you knew the Simpsons character, like, when Lisa got in, because she made a heck of a play on the sideline at one point.

You were like, how you're supposed to know who that is? Yeah. Like, some of them, you didn't, they weren't like, real characters. they were just like, rant. So you knew when like a real character got in because it was a couple minutes behind, that player was about to do something. Oh, okay, yeah.

That ruins it. I think at one point Ralph was like Micah Parsons. Yeah. But it's also not like the kids that are enjoying it or gambling and are upset that there's two minutes behind. Right, right. It's not like us. We're upset.

It's two minutes behind. Spread, yeah. Quickly, one game in college, Army Navy, that'd be fine. But NFL preview, because I want to pick one game be like this is the one to bet because again on the parlayes I get a little overwhelmed. We're getting it. The one I'm going to go heavily on will be the Chiefs and the Browns one I put in

mine. Chiefs and Browns play interesting game. Fair. Bengals of Titans, Bengals. If they keep winning, listen, they're like 6%, something like that. They don't really have a chance, but they're still mathematically in it. I think Pittsburgh's got to lose. There's got to be a lot of losing. Sure. Yeah. But it's fun because they score a lot of points. Like the Bengals offense scores, Jamar Chase is awesome. Joe Burrow, awesome. If they're were winning, Joe Burrow will be the MVP. Yeah. Easily. Yeah. He's killing

everybody in every statistical category throwing, mostly because he has to. Those two, yeah. Commanders and Saints, don't really care, but the commanders need to bounce back game. Because, you know, they started off. Seven and two at one point.

And it was like, for sure, rookie of the year. I'm still, I got all my money on Bo Nix because I put like $100 on him, but I win, it's like $7 grand if he wins a rookie of the year. And so he's not the favorite. I think he was second. I think Daniels is still the favorite. Yeah, Daniels still the favorite.

He's still the favorite. He's still a good odds for bo necks. Ravens and giants, nobody cares. Ravens will kill him. Cowboys and Panthers are interesting because, well, Panthers favored first time ever. Skill Bryce Young. Could you imagine?

Coming. hilarious. Well, they fight. Would they fire him? McCarthy right after that. Immediately after that. What's funny is, like, you see the stress on McCarthy now. The whole season, they'd make a mistake,

and McCarthy'd be like, that's all right. That's okay. That's okay. Now he's throwing F-bomb. He's rolling his eyes. I get it. Micah's walking off. Yeah.

Jets and Jaguars is not interesting. It's interesting for Draft to, you know, order and stuff like that for the Jets. So let's go Jax. For you. Like what game am I going to be on on Sunday ticket? It ain't going on there. But if you want to go to that game, it was pretty cheap, cheap tickets. Tasty, let us know how it goes.

The Dolphins, Texans is semi-interesting because dolphins are still is-y in the mix. Yeah. And Texans, they have not continued the momentum they started with. So that's a pretty good game. Both of the teams didn't win the game. Colts Broncos. That's big for playoffs. It is big.

Yeah. And I think they, which team was it? The Bengals need the Broncos to lose out. Okay. So that's even big in that. Because there's not, what, the four games left? Yes. Yeah.

Yeah. So I think the, but I want the Broncos to win because I need Bo Nix. True. To hit me that rookie of the year? That's one we like. That's a fun one. Bills and Lions, that's a good one. Now we're talking.

Now we're talking. Steelers and Eagles. Now we're talking. Patriots and Cardinals. Oh yeah. Nobody cares. Let's know how that goes. Okay.

Bucks and Chargers mid-care. Mid-care. Mid-care. And Packers and Seahawks. That's a good too. Mid to, slightly above mid-care. Yeah. Yeah.

But the real three games here are the Bills and the Lions, the Steelers and the Eagles. and if I had to pick one more I don't know the dolphins and the Texans probably because those teams are still kind of fighting both of those teams can make a move and that would be a big win for either one of the teams. All right.

I'm it. I'm it and I'm done. Thank you to coach coming on. Do you ever get that mayonnaise? Oh, dude. Oh yeah, what's the update on that? Great question. Good call, Kevin. Thanks.

Bring it back around. Let me know what you want. I prefer. I can just Uber eat. something you might be more comfortable with. I'm already here. They do have a variety from Panera. That sounds like a no. They have egg sandwich, garden Avo

and egg white, a chabata cheese steak, a Chipotle chicken and Avvo melt, a chicken bacon rancher. A toasted Fontaga chicken, toasted garden, Caprizi, and some salad greens. Hey, can we go to this shit? Where is this that again? Is your time getting here still realistic? Come as soon as you can. Let me know.

I didn't respond because we kept doing the show and now I'm just like getting blown up. Let me know if there's some, when we'd order for prompt. FYI, let me know if there's something in the order. This guy's sweating right now. I can totally hear him saying all this. Hold on.

Finishing. He's like, he's not answering. Okay. He sees the bubble now because I'm writing. Finishing. Recording whistles. Eddie's about to blow the whistle.

I'm about to. I got it ready. And Eddie, go and blow it. And I'm blowing it. Thank you very much. All right. We'll see you guys. Monday.

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