The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Celtics Runaway with Game 1 + Can Dan Hurley Work in LA? + Oliver Marmol & Paul Goldschmidt from St. Louis + Bobby Picks His Topps Party Guest

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

After blowing out the Mavericks in game 1 of the NBA Finals last night, Bobby discusses whether Mavs fans should be concerned or not. With reports of the Lakers heavily recruiting UConn's head coach, Dan Hurley, the big question mark is - can he succeed in LA with NBA players? Plus, Bobby and Eddie sit-down with Cardinals Manager, Oliver Marmol and former MVP, Paul Goldschmidt from their visit for Too Much Access. Bobby also revealed who he will be taking to the Topps exclusive party!    Follow the Show: @25Whistles   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberry  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcast. We got a whistle. What? Thank you. We're on us. We're on Mother Juckas. I didn't get to watch a lot of the basketball game last night because I was watching OU win the natural championship again. Dang. Family, man. That is crazy. I watched a bit on my phone, but I never fully could commit, Kevin.

So we'll talk about the NBA playoffs for a second. I did bet a thousand bucks last night on the Mavericks plus six and a half. What the? How do you do that? So I lost a thousand bucks. A thousand bucks? Uh-huh. Like, how do you do that?

Thought that number was a little high, so I was going to chase it. Hey, I thought that betting amount number was pretty high. I think I'm pretty sure. Let me go, let me go have draft kings. Go ahead. Nine and a half before the game, right? I think I got it at six. I'll look at it all.

The number I'm for sure of is the 1,000 number. Because I was like, you know what, I feel pretty good about this. Which shows you, I don't know, crap. That's the NBA, dude. It's the NBA. It's the hardest thing to bet on by far. Here's what I put. Yeah.

Why betting's easier. Okay, Eddie. Yeah, as soon as one team goes on a run, the other team, you know it's coming. This is the bet from last night right there. That bet, that Kately Clark bet is old. Okay. The middle one. All right.

Oof, it's got that big red loss thing on it. Lost. That's like my, that's what mine looks like. Dallas Mavericks plus six and a half pays minus $110. Yeah, I wagered $1,000. Yeah, I really felt like, I got to think I can win the game. And then so I didn't even watch the first part of it. We were watching the softball game.

and then I put the softball game over for a second, click, click. And then I was like, oh, God, they're down 20 points. Yeah. And I kept checking back at one time they got within like 11. I was like, let's go. We just got to cover that points, that plus six and a half. It's close, man. Yeah, they only lost by 18.

Yeah. Close. So I did see, because I didn't watch it at the beginning that Porzingas played and played well. He was the best player on the court. Crazy. Either team. The best player on the court all night. What did he score?

20? First half? First quarter? 20 in the game, I think the first half, maybe like 12, 13. How many minutes did he play total? 22 minutes. Wow. Or 21 minutes, 20 points, 6 rebounds.

He's good. I mean, he could start next game, but that's good. He gave him a good, solid game. He was, I mean, defensively, he was the best player on the floor, too. He was blocking shots. He was altering shots. He was unbelievable. And I can't help but think he's been healthy for like two weeks.

Yeah. Just waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. Because you don't come back and play 21 minutes and do what he did last night. If you haven't been healthy for at least a week or two. He was scrimaging. Yeah. But again, not the same intensity. but good for him.

I hate to see anybody that's injured. It's going to be interesting to see what Dallas does. Again, game one and game two are in Boston. I didn't expect to blow out like this. Obviously, I bet $1,000 on Pulitzer 1 and a half. I didn't really believe the Mavericks would win. I thought maybe they'd keep it close. I'd believe they would win.

I'd bet the money line. Yeah. So, yeah, I lost $1,000 there. But I did bet $500 on Oklahoma to win. Oh, there you go. Game 2 of 3, which they did. They won game 1 and 2. And so that's that bet.

I watched them the other day. come back against Florida. Yeah, we watched that one. It was like Tuesday, I think. Well, so they went in. All they had to do was beat Florida once. And Florida beat them the first game. Yeah.

So then it went to Oklahoma won again. And then they were up by, or Oklahoma was down by one, right? In like the six or something. And it came back and I saw that tie. I didn't see the full game. I didn't see it going to extras. So they went to best of three against Texas. And Texas was in one seed.

So Oklahoma beat him first game. And then it's on second game. Patty, our coach, Gaso, as America would call her, is, she's, won four national championships in a row, never been done before. And she has eight total national championships now. She's now tied all time with some old guy from forever ago. It's amazing.

Like it was playing on like different rules where like four teams. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you go back to that Florida game though and they were down.

They were down by two runs when we started watching, which is I think the fifth inning. And like just to come. I mean, right there you're like, oh man, this is tough. Like two innings left. You're down by two. They came back and they won that game. And that's just, that's just crazy. Because at that moment, you're like, oh, my gosh, they're not going to win it.

In Florida, it's going to be Florida and Texas. But now they did it, dude. Imagine being those players, too, so much pressure. Like, who's going to break four in a row? So now next year, like, those players, that's a lot of pressure. Even this year, just three in a row. And we've got to keep this going. Yeah.

Not we break this chain. You don't want to break that chain. You don't want to be on that team. And those freshmen, they won a championship every year. That's crazy. Freshman, sophomore, junior, senior. Every year. I just text Patty.

I don't want to text her last night because I've been when they've won the national championship and that night goes on forever. Really? Because they win. Mexican restaurant afterwards. They have their thing.

They got their orange slices. Then there's a press conference which we went to right after the game and then she does that and then there's a big party and she doesn't go to the first part of it. She lets the kid, you know, they have fun.

She shows up and does a thing but all the families there. We almost went this year. Kailan wasn't feeling good so we kind of pulled back last minute. I'm surprised you didn't. Yeah, that's why. Okay.

What's the party? Like, what do you got? You got cake, you got food, you got drinks. Caitlin's dad was on TV a bunch last night. Really? Yeah. Yeah, because he sits with the family. I mean, DJ's too much access hat.

DJ was on. And by the way, DJ Gassow is my brother-in-law, Patty's son. DJ coaches at Arkansas now. But DJ can't wear Oklahoma stuff. He's the coach at Arkansas. Right, you can't do that. So he's wearing a too much access hat. It was all over freaking ESPN.

It was awesome. Yeah. That's really cool. Yeah, there's a lot of food. There's DJ. DJ at the party? Yeah. That's awesome.

Campaign or no, no, because of college? Well, I mean, there's alcohol. I think there was alcohol there, but I don't know that was free for everybody. Everybody couldn't just go grab it. And that's tough for you. You don't drink, so you're not looking to see if there's alcohol. Yeah, that's the first thing I look for when I go to a party. Yeah, me too.

Are we serving here or we not? What's the vibes here, you know? Is there an open bar? Yeah, so I imagine she didn't get in until 1.30 or something or two, so I didn't text her at all. So I just, pile me on. Wait until today. Wait until today. Congratulations, the goats are to the goats.

That's so cool. Four in a freaking row. So is she the best of all time? Yes. Coach and softball. Well, so just analytics. Data. We'll say data more than analytics because it's not currently going.

No coaches ever won four in a row. So she's the only division one coach to everyone for championships in a row. Maybe the only coach ever. And then she's tied all time. Like I said, with eight national championships with some old dude who won eight championships back again when they were like i don't know a team in this southeast of america like i think i think columbus had a team the pilgrims had a team that's pretty much it washington had the cherry trees that they played yes yeah when are we going to do it too much access with her we almost did this year

and we were going to go do them and oklahoma state and something something something personal happened where she couldn't be there that day so we didn't go and then she got to do irritated at Oklahoma State. Well, really? To cancel. But I'm just curious. Like maybe you know the answer to this.

But what, where does that success come from? Like I know it's probably a mixture of things, but recruiting's got to be a huge part of that, right? Yeah, but you don't get the recruits until you win. Yeah. You don't win until you get the recruit. So it's like college football.

You're turning around a program. You kind of need a coach to come in and change the culture and have a little more winning than the last coach with the same players. Especially pre-NIL. Now if you, NIL, if you come in, you pay a bunch of money to a coach, you give them a bunch of money.

You can shift a team that way. But that wasn't the case with her or it wasn't the case with other programs. It doesn't matter the sport. But if you look at like, let's say an Urban Meyer goes in, or the best scenario is whenever Nick Saban went to Alabama, they went six and six his first year.

They lost like Louisiana Monroe. Yeah. But he did a bit like a game better than the last coach. And so he got a little better with the same players. And there was also a really good recruiter. So he started pulling in slightly better players and better coaching. and the recruits continue to ascend,

and that's how you change a program. But if you give me or you the best players in the nation, I don't think we can win. Right? Like, there's got to be something more than you recruit. You think you could? Yeah, because I'd hire great assistance. I'd be a CEO head.

I'd be a... Well, if you were just by yourself, though. No assistant. But that doesn't happen anywhere. Nobody does that. You have to go out and play best of three games. You can't, no practicing, no nothing. You just go out there with the best players like Eddie says.

You have to choose your lineup. I can manage it. Yeah, sure. I'm just managing at that point. Yeah. You're the skip. What about? I can win that.

Also, when I watched the game the other day, I'm glad I remember this right now. These pitchers are like 150 pitches. Yeah, because the arm motion. It's different. It's a very, the girl last night that ended up coming into close had pitched the last two games. The last game against Florida, you're talking about three consecutive days. So two days ago, full game against Florida. Yesterday, full game against Texas.

And they brought her in to close the game yesterday. It's because your arm does get tired, but there's, the arm motion is not baseball where that is not how your arm is supposed to throw. Yeah. Your natural arm motion is this. We're eating dinner, right?

And I say, hey, pass me a roll. Throw me a roll. Do you throw it overhand? Yeah. No, you don't. You throw it underhand. It's natural. You get throws all day and never be tired.

They do get tired. They do get tired. Was that lunchbox and Ray popping through our speakers? They hijacked their podcast. I'm trying to picture it. Why are you doing? No, dude, you underhand the roll.

Well, it depends where we're sitting, too. Oh, how you throw a roll? Yeah. You don't throw it like a baseball. No, no, you never do. I mean, that would be too hard. Anyway, to his point, yes, it's more natural to throw underhand. Okay, okay.

toss an egg. They won again. Yeah, that's amazing, man. That's really cool. I'm trying to make my, now I'm down like 500. So you didn't, I thought you had split screens and multiple TVs. Like, you didn't have both games. I was watching my wife.

I do that when I'm watching video, I play video games. I have a three screener. You've been upstairs in my house? Yeah. Okay. So the three screeners. I have a middle screen video game, two screens on the side,

and I will do that in my gamble room. Yeah. I play mad and all I got stuff on I'm watching or gambling on. But if we're down in my life, we put it on the living room TV. And not even during commercials, you go back and check the game out? My phone.

So I had the basketball game on my phone. But then I stopped watching it because it was out of control, and I was like, I just lost $1,000. My nine-year-old had a basketball game, so I missed most of the game last night. I bet a thousand bucks on it. My sons? You would have covered.

They won by 11. They did. What time did you get home? I got home at 9. About 9, 10, 9.15. The game actually went a little faster just because it was a blowout, so there weren't as many like timeouts and everything like that. So what did you see the fourth quarter?

I saw the fourth quarter. I saw about five minutes of Luca and Kyrie still in. Then they pulled them. But, I mean, the Celts played till the very end. I know. Your team won, too. Congratulations. My team won.

I was very happy. Eddie, I told you you picked the right team. Yeah, I sure did. Well, I picked both. to be fair. It is true. Tonight I have to make my money back, but I also bet them all.

Hold on. Hold on, I'm not chasing. I bet them all at once. So I made a $1,000 bet, then I made three, $500 bets at the same time. So hopefully I can make my money back. I have the fever plus one. The Indiana fever are playing the mystics tonight.

Where are the mystics from? Washington. Yeah. In Washington. So I have that. And then I have Caitlin Clark over 17 and a half points. 500 bucks on each of those. I got you.

see them. That's, yeah, that's about it, right? Because when does NBA play again? Sunday. Sunday? Gosh, it's a long wait. Yeah, at least we got to go. At least it's going.

There's something to talk about. We had a game on Thursday. What's annoying about what's happening with the WMBA is, first of all, we're ahead of the game. We've been talking about this weeks. Yeah. We were on Caitlin Clark before it became cool to be on Caitlin Clark. A big fan.

I'm a big fan. What's annoying now is this turned into not just sports. It's turned into a culture war, and that makes sports not as fun. Because you can't just root for a, team or you can't just root for a good good guy bad guy now everybody's got an opinion but it's based on some political belief or woke or woke or race or and it's like well this is not near as fun as it used to be yeah i just like coming on going well everybody's hating on katelyn clark because she's

rich and they claim she was going to be the greatest so they want to show her and there's obvious hate and jealousy and let's go kately klaus yeah or someone sucks because they've you know missed all shots like something simple like that but yeah not culture stuff exactly society it has it has made me uh not like watching it as much not the games i'm so watching every wmba game but the talk oh yeah i don't like it because now like normal shows are talking about it really and they know nothing about basketball in general i'm talking about like the view or insert whatever political show it's like give me a freaking break i just want to talk about shooting threes That's what I talk about.

So Angel Reese is an idiot. She's an idiot. Whenever she was talking about, people watch me too. People come, it's not just her, it's me. And again, you can roll the clip of you and after that that she starts to talk about the league. But she's obviously very jealous.

Yeah. But she's an idiot, but I like that. I like that I think she's an idiot because we need rivalry. Some people think Caitlin Clark's an idiot. I like it. That's what we need. The greatest thing, no one would have known

who Angel Reese was unless they were a diehard fan of LSU or women's college basketball or the WNBA, like the very select few that watch that, you know, because listen, the ratings are big when Caitlin Clark plays. Highest college women's basketball game ever. The arenas are filling up. But Angel Rees saying that made her relevant to people that aren't just fans of Chicago, the WMBA, or college basketball, LSU.

People know who she is, but that's amazing. That's what she should have done. You think she did that on purpose? No, because she backed off of it a little bit after, or she said, you know, us and all, she just should have embraced it and been that hero slash villain idiot.

Yeah. We need a villain in sports. And that villain isn't the villain to everybody. Exactly. The villain's the hero to some people. But, yeah, no one wouldn't know who Angel Reese was was that wasn't already a diehard fan of women's basketball if it wasn't for Caitlin Clark.

Like, Lex Luthor wasn't even think until Superman came about. Yeah, right. You need the villain. And Angel Reese is good. It's funny to watch because she's, you know, leading in, like, rookie rebounds. You have me shots she misses

and just rebounds her own ball? It's crazy. Angel Reese? Yes, Angel Reese. That's how she has a lot of rebounds. It's hilarious. Really? Yeah.

She's for sure a good player. She's for sure a really good player. But I saw someone go, it's not only Caitlin Clark that fills up at WMBA arena. It was two teams playing. I forget it was. And they did a pan.

It was like half full. It was a bigger arena. It was a bigger arena, but half full. And the attendance was on there and it was like 10,000 and a 20,000 cedar and they posted all of Caitlin Clark's 14,000, 15,000, 16,000,

full, like full arenas. You can't even put more people in there. Yeah. To me, even if you don't think Caitlin Clark's good, I don't care about that. But the whole reason the WMBA is getting any shine right now, outside of what it would already be getting by WMBA fans is Caitlin Clark or people that are anti-Katlin Clark and that makes it all about Caitlin Clark. And I kind of feel bad for Caitlin Clark. She's not really involved in any of it. She literally just plays basketball.

and it goes all around her. She doesn't really do that many interviews. I hope that she understands that this is part of the game and that's just kind of how it works. But it's never happened with anybody else ever in the history of women's basketball. I know, but for her, and I feel like when people have that spotlight on them where it's just negative and the whole league doesn't like you and you get body checked for no reason, stuff like that,

I think for a normal person it would just get to your head and you wouldn't be able to perform. But hopefully that she understands like, you know what, hey, at the end of the day, this is going to look really good on me. I'm not doing anything. Keeping my mouth shut. I'm playing ball and I'm doing what I'm here to do. That's it.

And like, hopefully she ends up being the top, like the best and just kind of overcome this. And because right now it could get to her head and she can play the complete crap. It's not. I think what she probably, she has good people around her. I'm sure telling her is what's happening on the floor and on social media is not actually what's happening. real life because most of America, they are curious about you. They like you, but you're not experiencing that at arm's length. But if you look past arms length, it's so much greater, bigger, and brighter because

everybody's kind of rooting for you. And you know, and it is kind of a race thing. And I'll tell you why. At least at first, white people aren't as good at basketball. Can we just generally say that? Yes. Okay. So follow me in a movie on this.

White man can't jump. Yes. So whenever there's somebody, and it doesn't have to be basketball, but I use that. White people can't really wrap that well. Yeah. Historically.

Yeah. So old people don't really go to the Olympics. Actually not. Short people don't really, aren't really good at basketball. Yeah. Anytime there's somebody that usually isn't something that ends up being,

everybody goes, what? We need to pay attention to that. and if it's like Caitlin Clark you're like and it's not just white or black people that are like rooting for her because you would see

a lot of black athletes for Caitlin Clark too being like she's awesome but it was just weird that it was a white person because white people aren't as good white people are not as good at basketball just generally speaking they look at the NBA short people aren't as good at basketball

old people don't get in the Olympics when there's a 42 year old Olympian you don't think that's every that's the story for a minute or even like when you know the big centers were shooting threes. Like, that was just like,

whoa, that never happens. Anything that's abnormal ends up being a highlight of a story. And that's where the initial comes from. Now, you can take all that and it's not,

it wasn't in the end just a race thing because she ended up being the all-time scoring leader. But I think it was pretty crazy that one, she shot three from so far away. That wouldn't even matter

what color she was. If she shot like that. She was logo shooting. That wouldn't have mattered. But Eminem, great rapper. You didn't know how great? was though it took him a while but at first

I was like what's his white rapper doing? So rare. Rappers usually aren't good if they're white. And he even says that. Right? He says in some of the song he's like if I wasn't white I wouldn't sell as many records. What was cool about Tiger Woods is he wasn't like a stupid old crotchety white man. Gosh that's so true. And you know, and Tiger Woods was awesome but what was

the appeal was he's not like all these other loser white people. So there's definitely an element of that but it's not in the element of like negative we're against a certain race or pro a certain race It's sometimes what's cool about Tiger was he wasn't white. I think we all can agree with that. What about another freaking dumb white person playing golf?

Some rich white kid and playing golf? We've seen 100,000 of those. Who cares? Oh, check out Tiger Woods. That was awesome. This young black kid. Yeah, and half Asian. Yeah.

Name Tiger. Name Tiger. You know? Yeah. Okay, look at Spudweb. Look at Mugsy Bog. People still talk about Spudweb because he was, as a short dude,

dunking. It was just that it's different from what the norm is. That's why she became known early. She's really good. All these people are really good. But it takes a while to be freaking great. But she was really good.

She was doing something wild. She was different than other really good basketball players. And then she proved herself. But that gets inserted in the conversation now. But in a negative way. Yeah. Yeah, it's people just spinning it the way that they want to be spun with their own headline or their own media grab,

whatever it is. And when people will be like, well, she's only famous because she's pretty straight and white. I'm like, no, no, no, no. She shoots it from freaking half court and she's the all-time points leader in all school. Like, that's why. Did people pay attention at first? Probably because she was white. Yeah, probably a little bit because it's like, well, I can't believe that white girl can do that.

Yeah. Because most white girls can't do that. And then it was, even if she wasn't white, but she was just crushing. Like, look at Sabrina, who plays in Seattle. Yeah. She was popping three. He's like crazy. Anyway, all that.

That is a part. Race is a part of everything. but it doesn't always have to be a bad part of everything. Oh, I don't see color. That's not true. But race doesn't have to be a bad part. Like, again, Tiger Woods, not white, but that's what was cool about them because everybody else is white.

So I don't like the conversation that's happening now where everybody has to have an opinion even if they know nothing about sports. Or they don't care about sports. They just want to have an opinion on a culture. That sucks. And it ruins it. And I did wear my Caitlin Clark jersey the other day. And I wore it to the card store.

to turn in my cards for the grading. And the card store. I wore, and I felt kind of like, I wore a jersey to a card store. Yeah, dude. I mean, that's perfect. I know.

It was perfect. It was perfect. Big nerd, big nerd, big nerd. That's fine. And everybody in there was like, oh, it's like, Caitlin Clark Jersey is so cool. And they were like,

where'd you get it? Because we can't, because nobody can get them. They're so hard to get. And I didn't have any sort of hookup. I just was on hold for like three weeks on getting him. Anyway, I'm in.

I like Angel Reese because she is, she's the storyline also when the fever not the fever when Chicago was getting off the bus and they were like we were harassed by people it was one person

asking the girl who had hip-checked Caitlin Clark if she had talked to her you can see the video they posted no no it was nothing one person it was nothing unbelievable was it a member of the press or just a person it was a dude I don't know

they had their fun and they were just recording it. But they weren't even like, inner interface. The security guard comes right, goes, do, do, do. But then they all start posting, we get harassed, and I literally felt bad for them.

I was like, fans are such freaking idiots. Like, this is sports. This is not real life. There's no need to get on anybody's bus when they're going to their hotel and be like, you freaking suck!

Yeah. They end of the game. Like, that arena is built for that. But don't go up to their table or restaurant and do that. Like, there's real life, and then there's the theater of sports. Sure.

But then when I saw it, it was nothing. really it was so nothing that i kind of got annoyed but that's what i like like it's giving me nobody cared about the wmba nobody not fair they have their hardcore fans both of them and they were both their fans were going to go to their games but nobody really cared about the the general population of sports fans didn't care about the wmba at all until katelyn clark came about and now what we talked about is kailin clark anti katelyn clark or talk about other girls except katelyn clark and even that's because of katelyn clark yep but I honestly know four, five, or six other WMBA players now that are awesome because of Caitlin Clark.

And I like that. It's worked a little bit where it's expanded me into knowing who some of these other freaking awesome players are. But it's because of Caitlin Clark. Yeah. Anyway, that's my situation there. Kevin, do you see a fan take Jason Tatum's towel off his shoulder after the game? No. Last night?

Yeah, he just walking by. Oh, yeah. He stopped and the security guard went and got it back. They got it back. But speaking of fans just being dumb, like what are you thinking you can just, grab something off of somebody's shoulder. Fans are ridiculous. They don't feel like athletes

that are playing the game are real people. Right. Right. It's like us, though, talking about, not us, but general, talking about celebrities and, oh, can you believe this? You don't feel like they're real people because they're not to you because you only see them on your phone or on your computer or on your television and that's not real life.

Yep. And. But they are real people and props to those athletes, actors, celebrities, whatever, that can just power through it and be like, you know what, I'm going to just stay true to myself. I'm going to let that bother me because that is a different world. Yeah, if it were me and somebody like grabbed me or did something, it'd be Detroit and Indiana all over again.

Popping into the stands. Is that malice in the palace? Malice in the freaking palace, baby. Basketball would be tough because they are right on top of it. They yell. That's why Luca just F you. F you fans. Did you see at the beginning of the game, neither you guys probably saw it.

Did he throw a ball? No. It was still close and he went in for a drive and got fouled and then he kind of like got into the stands a little bit, you know, and the fans were. just sitting there yelling at him. Nothing bad. Like, just fan fun, you know, and he's just sitting there laughing. He could just tell he's like, I love this. And then he got killed.

He'll be about 20 points. I lost $1,000,000. Sorry, dude. That's terrible. Okay. Let's go over and do the tittle tattle. Get it. Let's go to break first here. No. Okay. We shall go to break and then we'll come back and do the tittle tattle. Thank you.

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All right, Kevin, you ready for the tit? Now I am. Little Tattle. He's always ready. Let's go. The Phillies and Mets set the face off at Wembley Stadium in London this weekend. And if you can watch a baseball game at any non-baseball stadium, where would it be?

That's cool. That's a fun thing. I don't care about the Phillies or the Mets, but taking it to London, that's cool for them. That's an energetic environment because it's new. It's like we get our podcast in St. Louis. It's like it. That was cool. That was fun.

Yeah, that's fun. I like it when they do the games in other countries for football a little bit because they're just earlier. Like, I like that too, because you wake up, you get to watch that like 9 o'clock game. Yeah. Your fantasy starts. I like that. Your day's either ruined or. made better already?

I think like a football game in the Coliseum will be fun. I went to the Coliseum for the first time. The Roman Coliseum in Rome? I don't really have anything there, dude. They... Right? Isn't the ground like all messed up because the chambers down there? So yes and no.

I thought the same thing. And I was like, why? What's happening here? So what they did is they removed the floor so you could see what the chambers were underneath. Oh, I thought it was just time that weathered all that. Okay, okay. Time's weathered everything there and it's crazy.

Yeah. And I hired a guide so I could actually ask questions. My wife wanted to go look at it. Like a real guy or a dude off the street? No, real guy. Okay. Hey, you Italian? You from Rome? Hey, come with us. And I learned a lot about that and probably stayed a little longer

than I think my wife would have enjoyed. But that's cool stuff though, dude. Yes, it's awesome. You did that. But so that's what they did for people to see because you can't walk out there. They took the floor on the ground and removed it so you could see all the chambers below like where the animals were, where the people would be. Pretty cool. And so

I would pick football in that. fun that's my answer but what was cool about the coliseum too was learning about the gladiators that would fight and there were a couple ways you could become a gladiator and the movie gladiator is actually a pretty accurate portrayal of a singular version of that prisoners and slaves yes because i think that was the movie or so yes you could be a they'd use you as a prisoner um so if you got in trouble it's just kind of jail but you can work your way out. A slave, obviously. Or if you just had a terrible

life. Like you could go in, spend your time if you want enough matches, you would kind of be lifted up a class. So like instead of killing yourself? Like say you're just done. You're just like, man, I don't know if it's sad, but let's say you're born into lower, lower class. Super poor. And you're like,

this sucks. I'm going to go and fight four, five, six fights. I forgot what they said. And you go and you train at a training facility basically where they all train. They all train. together. They didn't fight each other, but they train together. And then if you were able to survive and win your fights, you're out and you're kind of famous afterward. And you're lifted up a bit.

That's amazing. Why? Yeah. And just to think that there was a gladiator like training camp where they're just all there with their swords and their shields like getting better. And then some people just admitted themselves and they're like, I'm here. I'm going to try to. God's amazing.

There was, and now I'll mess up some of the facts. And in Gladiator, because I haven't seen that in so long. but when I was learning about it there was a king and he wanted to be a fighter, a killer and so he would go and fight either animals or people himself but he would make sure that they were like stabbed before they went out wounded so they weren't full strength so he looked

What a punk Dang Oh that makes me mad That sucks It's okay, it is a long time ago man I know but it still makes me mad Like imagine being that person you get stabbed He's retroactively pissed right now

And I wonder that if that information kind of like when you find out that like somebody's been cheating in the NBA. Or like cork bat and baseball. Right. All right. All right. A lot of people talking about Kyrie with his comeback story in his career. What is your best comeback story in your career?

I think maybe this. What? The 25 whistles? Hell of a comeback story. Well. We had a sponsor. We didn't have a sponsor. We came back with a sponsor.

Funny? I would say, this is what I would say. Really it would probably be, I thought I was gonna, oh man, I have a couple like big ones where we did a segment, it got lunchbox put in jail, we were suspended for weeks, thought we were getting fired.

This was way early in my career. After that, we were number one. I don't know if it's a redemption because we weren't that big before then because we were new. But yeah, everybody was like, they're over, they're done. We had some real heat on us.

Like we were starting to make some noise. We were 24, 25. So that was good. There was another part where I was fine a million bucks by the FCC for a bit that we did. But I never really feared I was going to get fired. I wondered it, but I never got suspended. You were puckered though.

A bit just because the money was so high. But why I say this is because years and years ago, Andy Rodic and I did a sports show on Fox Sports on the weekends. We were just like, let's just do the show. And they were like, cool. And it was pretty good. Andy has big personality.

We don't mind fighting with each other. We have respect for each other. We can tell each other that are idiot. And then we were friends. We always had that base so we could really go at it. And he then was still playing tennis and finishing his career, so he had to leave the show. So I did it for another year by myself, basically.

They had approached me to take the job after Jim Rome left. Because I was still in Austin, but I was doing Fox Sports. They were like, hey, would you want to consider doing a syndicate? afternoon sports show, but I was going to have to leave what I was doing in the morning and I built my own syndication company. It was basically go

and be that gym room position, which I had fun doing, but that really wasn't what I was wanting to do, do, or go to Nashville. So I moved to Nashville, I got completely out of doing sports. I did it for, we did it for a little bit,

but not really. And it was me and lunchbox. Ray. And Ray. and so we did the but I was touring and I'd have to like in Tallahassee

go find a studio so I stopped doing sports and I was not going to do sports anymore I was good and Draft Kings came were like hey we want you to do a sports show

five days a week and I can't I can't possibly do that and we figured out a way to do this when it was one time a week and then now we've kind of grown it into something cool

so redemption I mean I didn't like get fired but I didn't really do it anymore I never thought I would really do sports again but I think what we've kind of rebuilt this and two and you know I'm going to fill in for Rich Eisen

like they think I have the skills enough to go take over a national television and radio sports show like that's cool for me just even that people would allow me to do that because that means they think I'm at least good enough to like hold it up as he's gone and then I got to the NFL draft that's my other cool stuff coming up

I think this is fun for us that we built something cool I think this is kind of a hey we're back that is cool redemption but yeah we back So that would be mine. But I didn't step on anybody's leprechaun, okay? Exactly.

Oh, and 11 cents. Yeah. Just saying. All right, next one. All right, if the Lakers hired Dan Hurley, where would you put them in the West? It's weird Dan Hurley's style with professional players. It's also why college coaches, for the most part, don't work out.

And I'm saying he won't work out. And if they offer him $100 million deal, let's go. I go, too. And he may, he's want, you know, multiple national championships. and he may be bored. And maybe that was his dream. But I don't know that relationship, because he's a big personality,

and it's his culture in college. He's for sure the only one that's going to be here next year, ever here. Yeah. If he wants to be, he's the only one that is for sure going to be there. And he gets to yell, and he makes more money than his players, it's just a different vibe in the NBA. But because I don't know, I do listen to people that I trust that do know,

and they regard him as a, like, not just a big motivator, because that's its own style of coach, but like a real developer of talent, like basketball players. And they think that that's why he would go to LA if he does. I haven't seen if it's now announced or if they've closed the deal. I thought it was Reddick until I read about early.

I know. That came out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. So I'm just going to trust the people that I trust, that know more than me, and they think he'll be a great addition, but it's weird to see a college coach go to the NBA or NFL and succeed

because it really doesn't happen a whole lot anymore. Yeah, because you see those clips of him in practice, you're like, he's going to be able to talk to LeBron like that?

Yeah, Screamy Johnson, man, for sure. Right. And that's why I'm like, how hard is it to be a head coach with the Lakers? This is like a Jerry Jones situation over there, like where the Lakers

are still like the Showtime Lakers. Now LeBron's like, he's in charge or that... That's a thing. With LeBron's obviously the biggest personality. It's a good question, too, the biggest personality, the biggest force in the NBA.

Mm-hmm. period. Because that's not just basketball. That's a company. And he's got to sign off on you. And when he's tired of you, you go. So I don't know. And some of these places,

these smaller market teams that have had no success, I can see where, like even a Jason kid who goes in and endowed, like that's freaking Jason kid. You have to, he's done it. He's done it at a high level. That's your coach.

You've got to respect that. He's done it in the NBA, better than you have. Yeah. Yeah. And so, because he's an all-time great. My kids didn't know that I had to explain that to him. Who he was?

Yeah. I'm like, we'll watch clips. So if you're LeBron and a coach comes in that never played, like we played it like, it doesn't have to be hurley. But if a coach played like D2 ball at Centennial and all of a sudden he's telling you,

you're like, bro, you ain't even done this before. Right. I don't know the answer to that. But what did Vogel do? Like what? He was an assistant. Before?

Like I see him and where is he at? Where's he at now? I know he's coach for the Lakers, but Vogel, I go see him just like, I don't know this guy's credentials. Even the Miami coach. Was he in Toronto? Was Vogel in Toronto and they won the championship as an assistant?

I don't know. Keep going. It's just that vibe of like he doesn't talk. He doesn't yell. He doesn't talk. He actually looks like he doesn't say anything during the games. And he's very quiet. So I'm thinking like I don't remember him playing in college. I don't remember him playing the NBA.

So I don't know what his credentials are. So I feel like people can get away with that. Like even the Miami heat coach, what's his name? Spolstra? Yeah, Spolsterer. Like I don't know his credentials. But he wouldn't have got away with it had they not super believed in him because of how smart he was.

Yeah, I will say. He's a tape rat, they'd say. He was surprising. Whereas, like, at the beginning of his career, like, oh, he's just got LeBron and D. Wade, duh. And then now it's like, oh, actually, 10 years later, he's pretty big legit. Yeah, and not only that, you had people sticking up for him,

where you had Pat Riley going, I don't care what happens with any of the players. Like, you're going to lose if it's up to me. Spolstra is the guy telling his players that. You kind of kind of have that, too. Yeah, that's cool. What do you see? So Vogel was with the Pacers for five years and Magic in 16 and 18,

and the Lakers from 19 to 22. and then the Suns this past year and then he's already fired. As head coach? Yeah, as a coach. I may be thinking of the coach it was fired this last year that was with the Toronto

or the Raptors. He was an assistant with the Raptors? I think when they won the championship. Hand. Darvin Ham? Yeah, maybe. Look that out because I'll probably be wrong with that. I'd love to be wrong twice in a row.

That would be excellent for me to be. Or maybe the bucks or something. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, the NBA, I don't know. It's a weird, weird dynamic there. Especially coaching the Bronx. Because in football,

there really isn't a player that overruns a coach. The Bucks assistant. Was it the Bucks and they won the championship? Yeah, yeah. He was with him. I mean, you had Tom Brady. He couldn't coach Tom Brady. The one person that could was Bill Belichick, and he did, and they thought.

I'm thinking more of what's his name in Tampa Bay. Kind of just let him. I think that was the understanding going in. He's just kind of like, Tom, you're the coach here. He's like, hey, I've been dealing with Bill for 20 years. I'm going to do whatever I want. That's probably the only reason he would even go there, too, right? It wasn't he's there and then he overpowers Ariens.

I think he doesn't even go there unless he knows he has that control. Yeah, there is some type of agreement there for sure. All right, what else? All right, last one here. After a dominant win in game one, if you're a Mavs fan, how worried would you be? On a scale of one to five, five being old-man- I'd be as scared as I was initially. Three.

I still feel, they lost on the road. It wasn't pretty. But you also didn't know how good Porzingis was going to be or what he could have. I think they learned a lot. I think they have a shot to win game, too. I'll probably put $1,000. on it. Oh boy. Oh, boy. My wife believes that they really, they didn't try to lose it, but lost it. And just to kind of

let the Celtics feel like, oh, you've got this whole thing. You can kill us. Here, beat us by 20 points. I'm like, really, that's your theory. But you think stuff like that sometimes. Yeah, but not that one. And Kevin thinks teams can sweep teams if they want to. Right. Right. We all have our version of this. I told him. I'm like, really. Okay. So that works. All right, that's a tittle towel. Go ahead. Do we want to do one of the interviews before break or take a break first? We do one interview. Okay.

Hey, Kevin, do set up the manager one here. I don't have the paper. I'll do it away. Okay. Here we go with St. Louis Cardinals manager, Ollie Murmull, also known as Coach Ollie, sat down with him in St. Louis for our visit for Too Much Access. What's his name, though, Eddie? Ollie.

Oh, Skip. Yeah. Eddie called Skip every time. That's right. By the way, too much access doesn't get the full interview. Only 25 whistles does. That's right. Exclusive.

Well, that's a part. That's how I can justify. Because I lose a lot of money I'm doing too much access Right now But we use it for this show too So full interview here Coach Marmel

From we're in his office by the way Just sitting on a couch There's nothing in his office Yeah we're all naked All right with no we're not We're not just kidding We're not just kidding I only I was

And it was weird All right with the Cardinals When we walked in We sat down for a second And somebody walked in And like whispered some top secrets up to you And I did everything I could I didn't listen

I literally No I don't know what was being said But it felt very important and there were some big decisions being made but I want you know I did not hear it now does that happen a lot where somebody comes in as like because you're so close to the locker room

you've got to kind of keep that quiet usually they'll close the door but since you guys were in here it was very low key I did not listen much much okay maybe I listened a little more maybe I just heard a couple words but it's actually yeah

did you hear a little bit I didn't hear anything Okay. We're hoping it's not a thing. Because if it's a thing, it's not. No, no, I don't know what you're talking about. I keep secrets. I know everybody's secrets.

And I don't tell secrets because I'm just an honest man, coach. So I'm going to leave it there. But this is really cool. Like to be a manager of a major league team, all professional things aside like, that's so freaking cool, right? It is. It really is especially here. Yeah.

I mean, this is, you talk about baseball town. This is incredible. So to do it for this organization, this is your eight. 18 for me. As a player, then I couldn't hit. They released me, became a hitting coach, came up through the ranks that way as a manager, and then to be here and then hold that seat, man, it's incredible. It really is. When you look at, you know, Herzog, Mathini, LaRusa, this place has put out extremely in the baseball world, not even just Cardinals, but in Major League Baseball, like the greatest managers in the history of the game.

A little bit of pressure, like, within yourself to just, like, perform because of the past and the history. In a good way, though. Yeah. Like, it's one thing when you wake up every morning, if you were with an organization that didn't care as much as the Cardinals do, like, I'm not sure I would wake up for that and do it every day. It's that pressure, the expectation of doing it well, that actually gets me going. Like, yeah, you go out there and night and you lose, they hate you. There's something good about that. It gets you motivated to, man, make sure you're not missing anything.

And the city loves their baseball and you better win. This city, there's like three, St. Louis, Chicago, Boston, no doubt. You know, culture towns where when it's game day, even if it's a weekday, like you feel it. The first day that you get to come into the office, like what's in the office? Is it empty? Or is there just like a story? Like what happens when you move into a new, I know it's like moving to a house, but how about a new office? It's empty.

Well, no, the chairs and stuff were here. I haven't done a whole lot to it, be quite honest. We did notice that. We did notice like five things in here. I told myself I wouldn't do a whole lot until I got an extension, and I should put some stuff up on the walls now. Yeah. You feel good about that extension?

I feel better about it, yeah. Why not good? No, like, yeah. Yeah, good. Positive, yes. I feel great about it. Yeah, that's what I was looking for. Yeah, I know, yeah.

I'd tell a little better about it about it. Skip, what is, like, what's your day like? When do you, like, show up game day? Yeah. When do you show up? When do you leave? Like, what do you do in the middle? Man, longer days.

You're usually here by 11 or so, 1130. And you start with meetings with the medical. That's who walked in. Kind of gives you a brief on all the guys. We do that. I didn't know that. They let you know kind of anything that you may have happened overnight or anything like that. So you go through that.

Different staff members come in for about two minutes a piece, and you kind of catch up with them. And then you start your prep for that day. We got the cups coming in and you make sure you got everything kind of tightened up leading into that series. That takes a couple hours out of the day. And then right around now, players start showing up

and you have certain scheduled meetings with them. Guys you've got to talk to. That leads you to the hitters meeting right around 320 today. Pitchers have their meeting right after that. Then you go out, you hit BP, you come in, you eat, you shower, and you strap it on. Yeah.

That's weird term. Strap it on. Strap it on. You want me to do. I got a visual. Yeah, me too. I don't like what I visualized. We'll edit that, right?

Yeah, yeah, of course. Absolutely. Probably not. No, for sure, for sure. Who is your favorite ball player growing up? Oh, I don't know if I had a favorite, like, player player. I grew up watching like Omar Visckel, playing short, which I enjoyed watching him.

One of the best defensive short stops in the history of the game. So if I, like, watched a player, probably Omar. Living in Florida, we caught a lot of the, the Marlins games, a lot of the Braves games. So I watched a lot of Braves. But I never had like, man, my favorite player. Did you model yourself positionally after anyone? Or did you watch anyone's tape and like watch how they would do it or ways they would get to the ball?

I don't know. Do you mirror it all after integrate? Probably Bisckell in the way he played the game. I mean, defensive just guru. Can't meet him? Never did. No, never have. I met Maladay once.

How'd that go for you? It went okay. He texted me and he said to give you a hug. I have the text. And I was like, I'm just going to say that. Not going to do it. He said hug him on camera. I was like, I'm just going to say that.

So Matt and I have been really good friends for 15 years, like old school. You guys are super close. Like real life friends. Yes. How did that relationship come about? Man, he was in the big leagues. I was in the minor leagues. And his wife is a better person than him and got along with my wife.

Kosan. Yes, cosom. And we just, we lived in Jupiter. They lived in Jupiter in the offseason, so we would go over there and just hang out and have dinners. And, man, it was, we were there a lot. So got to know him. Once I got this job, I offered him the bench coach job, and he did it for about three minutes, and then chucked the deuce on me, but I still love him.

He also worked for his brother for about three minutes, and then chucked the goose on him. Yeah, he did the same thing for his brother. When you have a friend like Matt and you watch his kids grow up to be, like, I don't want to say better, because they're not, I don't put that pressure on them, but, I mean, they're elite. They're really good. Both of them. Does that make you feel old? I attended the wedding for Jackson, and he was standing up there, and it was the first time I was like, what are we doing?

Like this, I remember him very little. But man, the kid's a beast, and Ethan's incredible as well. So it'll be fun to watch them. And Matt looks like he could still play if he wanted to. Let's say everybody pulled a hamstring today. Yeah, I'd give him a call. All at once. No, I'm not asking that.

Could you give us three innings right now? Me? Yeah. Oh, no, I couldn't do it when I played. But you give us three innings in the field. No, I'll chuck the deuce. Come on. You would chuck the deuce too?

You just go eight men? Yes. I'll play with eight. Yeah. What's the hardest part about this job? Oh, when you do it well, you sacrifice something. It usually comes at the expense of family. And it's hard not to carry the losses home because, I mean, you're thinking about

it nonstop. I got two little girls, there's six and four. And I have to, it takes me about 30 minutes to drive home. and I need to, by the time I get home, I need to be dad. Because the scrutiny is real, man. This town loves one, and when you lose, they hate you. And rightfully so, that's part of being a fan. Things are going well, great if they're not.

Somebody's head, and that's mine. So making sure that when I get home, the hardest thing is that I'm present and I'm there for my wife and my kids. And then when I leave home, lock it back in and do a good job here. Could you get unlimited massages here with the staff? Oh, for sure, right? Because that's what I would do. Yeah, every day.

I mean, because obviously the players need work. I mean, could you just come in 20 minutes early and every day and have an appointment? Can I? Yeah. Yeah. Do you? I've never got one. Oh, you're missing out.

Yeah. What are you doing? You're missing out. That's the first thing I would do. That's the first thing that comes to mind for you. I'll get all the free clothes and then, and massages, like from the trainers. And all the gum. And seeds.

All the seeds. I can't do a lot of sugar now. It's like an older than sugar just kind of sits in my gut. But I would do seeds. Are you getting one while you're here? I didn't know they were free. So I'll have to talk to the staff. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, we'll see what to. How are your injuries? Do you ever feel them now? Like from your injuries? My personal work? Yeah, from the weather. Because the Midwest, weather's like changing all time. Yeah.

Do you feel them? Not really. No, I tore my meniscus. I feel that from time to time, but no, I'm good. How's your arm? Can you still throw? I don't throw. No, I'm going to like, I was, throw great.

Yeah. Man, see, that's the thing I would do, too. I'd be playing all the time. This is what I would be in the manager. I don't do that anymore. Yeah, I'm asking him, like, do you ever do this? So if you had this job, you're running around the field. Oh, yeah, I'd be a player coach.

And get a massage every day. Yeah, I get a massage, eat a bunch of seeds, change, three outfit changes during the day with all my free clothes. And then I'd be a player coach. Shoe game would be on point too. Absolutely. You understand he's so far away from your job that he's fantasizing all this stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, I work and I do stand-up and I do podcasts and radio.

But it's all, like, my dream has always been to be like a big comedian to rock. So I just, we created a comedy band. And we played these shows with thousands of people. But I only did that because I wanted to be a rock star. Like, we've schemed a way to be a rock star. Yeah, we made it on the same way I would scheme a way to be like a player. So what does your day look like today? What are you doing today?

So we did the radio show this morning. Yeah. Then we did a podcast out in front of this. Okay. We're here talking to you. We'll talk to probably Paul. We're going to go. But we're watching the game.

Yeah, we're going to stay for the game. Are you hitting today? I don't know if they let us. That'd be nice. I know some like. I hear you. The thing is. You just talking about how much you would hit.

I know, I know I hear you, but like, I probably need a massage after if I do. That's the thing I'm worried about is that, is your whole closet red? Here. Yeah. Yeah, at home? No, I mean, even at home. Like, because you can't wear blue. Let's say you go to the grocery store and you're in blue.

No, I never wear red. No, I never wear red outside. Why couldn't he wear blue because of the grocery store? If I sign him at the grocery store, the Cardinals manager. We're in blue? We're in blue. I'll be like, that's bull crap. I get that anyways.

Yeah. Do you ever read about it? yourself? Oh, no, I used to have Twitter and it's a dangerous place. Very dangerous place. Yeah, it's yeah, you don't want to look. There's no love there. I mean, I do really cool things sometimes. Nobody ever tells me. They still hate you? They still do. Oh, that makes me feel better. Yeah. No, I don't go on there anymore. It's, uh, there's 162. That's so many games. Yeah. So the, the funny question is that's a lot of, even if you're, you have a really good season and you lose, it's 60 games. You have 100 wins. That's still 60 losses that people get a

upset about? They'll get upset even when you win sometimes, yeah. Okay, but the real question is, do you think 162 is too many games? Gosh, I don't even think about it, man. You put your head down and you just go. Like, once spring training's over, I don't know what day of the week it is. I don't know what time, like, you just show up and you just go. I've never even thought of it, to be quite honest. On one hand, I have a lot. Here's my thoughts. On one hand, baseball is such the history of our country, right? No doubt. And it's fun to see today compete with 50 years ago. Okay. You know, Ameris hit 61 and 61 and you have McGuire, but bon, you have all of this. Like, it's fun. This sport does that. It allows that to happen. So I would hate for that to be gone. But I don't

keep up with 162 anythings. Yeah. Like, what would you shorten to? I'd probably go, like in the 140s 10 excuse me like little league yeah we just do 10 1 week

I probably go because I probably go like 90 and then seven innings I'm in I'm in on the seven nipping base

yes I think one of the greatest things when we did the during COVID when we did the double headers and there were seven inning double headers

money I think like football for example It's once a week. 90s aggressive, by the way. Well, then I think we should do 81, and everything counts as double against the old school. Like, you do 81.

Okay. So I think 162, as I get older and my attention span get shorter, I'm like, man, I can't keep it 100 to have anything. Yeah. I wonder if you had any thoughts on that because I felt like July? Like, that's like burnout time.

It's hot. Yes. You're right in the middle of it. Does it ever get like that to you? Yeah, but you get the all-star break and you get that reset, which is helpful. And three days doesn't seem like a ton,

but when you don't get many days off, three days is an eternity. But what if you make the All-Star team, then you've got to keep going. Does it look like I'm making an All-Star team? Well, you don't make an All-Star office. There's nothing in here. This is the empty office. Literally. So next season, hopefully we'll see some stuff.

But I think you can. I think you guys are. No, for a player. And that's why some of these guys, man, they make it, and they're toast. Like, they are aghast. So I do hear that. And the guys will come in. They'll make the All-Star team.

excited about it obviously but it's it's a drain what about load management and baseball yeah um when you look at how you use your pen and given this is a big part like our season right now dug our subs a whole and you want to give guys like goldie and noddo and some of these guys a day off man when you're trying to catch up that's hard to do um and they're great about it because they don't want days off but load management yeah it's a real thing skip where's your phone during the during the game like like do you you have it on you or is it back in your office in the locker room you can't have you can't have it on you okay so so say your wife wants to get a hold of you she calls a trainer like if something

real happens even like do you have a buddy who's like man i need to talk to you about something dude my my chick left me like i got that's true what do we go right now like you know does it in real life do you ever somebody needs me during the game yeah they're gonna wait yeah you got to wait yeah like if something happens at the house she'll call a trainer and they'll grab me and pull me in here, but if you need to tell me about a girl leaving you. We'll do that. We do a radio show and we always have those buddies.

They're like, man, I'm trying to call you like, yeah, we're on the radio, man. And like 200 cities right now, so don't try to FaceTime me while I'm literally talking to millions of people. Yes, no, I don't get any calls. Like, people just know. So I don't get anything during the game. If someone really, like if my wife really needs me, that's different. But, yeah, that doesn't happen.

What if the, let's say the eight hole, they get the last out in the inning. So nine's up and they go back. and I don't know, they say they're watching tape, but they go back here to check their phone. Does that ever happen? Yeah, that happens. And that's okay? I mean, it happens.

It is what it is? It is what it is. I mean, the grown man. What if they're getting a massage? What if they come back? That's what I would do. I'll come back in the middle. I'd be like, my hamstring's killing me.

And I'll come back and get some work done on my hamstring. I'm just injured all the time. Like, that's like the greatest, the greatest thing that can happen. Take care of it before the game starts. Yeah. And then you're out there on the bench with the boys. Yeah. Okay.

we were ranking cool things to get from players. I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Mine. So I don't mean for this to be a flex, but it's going to sound like a little flex. I'll do it. I was the youngest person ever put in, like, the Broadcasting Hall of Fame. Sorry about it. Say it with your chest.

I was the, uh... So basically, I'm like, I'm like the Babe Ruth. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. So we were going to talk with Paul later, and I was going to go, because you have players in basketball football. one of the culture, they'll trade jerseys now, big part of it.

And so I was going to go, I'm going to give you something to mine. I was going to just give him a microphone and see what he would give me back as the bit. That's funny. That's his back. Without telling him we were doing it. And Paul knows of me a bit because he played college ball down where we're from. No doubt. And so we were ranking the cool things to get from players.

And bottom was the signed baseball. That's like the worst. That's okay. I'm with you. Okay. Yeah. Second would be a batting glove. Yeah, that might be

You think it's been worse than a baseball? I'd rather have a ball Okay Yeah Who are those balls in your desk by the way? My little girls Got it Yeah

Third, we got to the very top So what's the coolest thing You could get Before we tell you what our answer was Man And don't go crazy skip Like car Not like that

It's not like that It's not like sign this car Like something out of the locker room Out of the locker room I'd probably rather have Cleats over a bat Or a jersey or a Yeah

I thought cleats over bat They didn't think cleats was that cool I thought Clayton's awesome. I went batting helmet. When do you ever see anyone give their batting helmet away? Not often. And then they went glove.

And then glove. Like glove would never happen. That one's not going to happen. That's like the thing. That would be a... The players have multiple gloves in their locker. Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's like a practice club, a game glove,

and then one that they're breaking in in order to kind of cycle it through. Wow. So... That was number one on the list. I can see that. Do you have any cool memorabilia for players? Oh, man, I rarely ask. From that last year of Albert and Yadi and stuff, I got some cool stuff there from them that they kind of gave me at the end of the year.

But I rarely ask, like an opposing team. How do you feel about managers wearing uniforms? I have to. No, I know you have to, but I'm saying, what do you choose? This is a big thing in the city. They get mad when I don't wear my jersey. That's the thing. Yeah.

Like go on Twitter, the thing that we talked about. Yes, we've heard of it. Yes. Really? Oh, yeah. And, again, baseball's awesome because it's traditions, right? Yeah. Like, I wear pants and I don't mind, like, throwing the hoodie on and I'm good to go, you know, but they really, like, the jersey's a real thing.

So I wear my jersey every day. But let's say they were, they get, you were the only person on the board of change. Would you have managers wear the full uniform? The full uni? Yeah. Gosh, you're going to make people hate me even more. No. I don't think I would either, though.

Yeah. I think that's one of the traditions that I don't. Because most, not you, great physical shape. Yeah, you look good. You look good, but I would,

if I were a manager, but if I were like 70, don't say it again. I wouldn't want to, my big gut hanging out over my belly. Dude, we'd look terrible. For me,

I wouldn't want that. You're constantly like walking, putting your pants out. Yeah, it's like a plumber. It doesn't fit right, man. And I'm not talking about anybody specifically, but I wouldn't want that about with me.

Yes. And so, you don't have to worry about that for probably, what would you wear? I would just wear a hoodie and like, just like some Adidas pant.

I don't want baseball pants either. You don't fill them out. That's not very nice. We don't like that, do we? He's being honest. Yeah, we don't like that one bit. All right.

Okay, so real question about this season. Yeah. I feel like now we're building a little bit. We have a rough start. You feel like we're almost back to 500 as of right now? Yeah, dug ourselves as a whole. The biggest thing was the offense,

not coming together, clicking together. and everything else actually looked really good. When you look at the pitching, the rotation, the bullpen, defense, all the way around, it was clean. The hitters were a little behind, and now we've caught up and we've put it together, and we've won eight out of ten or so. But I do feel like we're heading in a really good direction. You feel like you have an open door, and do they accept the open door, and do the players come and talk to you?

Yeah, that's one thing that's been really good. These guys, I mean, I've known a lot of them for a while, and they're comfortable coming in here and shooting the straight. Like our biggest word is honesty. And sometimes you have to say things that people don't want to hear, but it goes both ways. And I think it works well, man. Are you younger than some of the players?

I believe so. That's awesome. When Waino was here for sure. That's awesome. Getting to boss people around older than you. That's awesome. That's freak. That's the coolest.

That might be the coolest part of this job. That would be cool. That would be awesome. Okay. We have three final questions. Yeah, to wrap it up. Do you ever go to the mound, full intention to pull a guy, and he convinces you otherwise, even though your mind is made up?

It's happened before, yes. This year, it has not. With Wayno, it happened a couple times with Wayno. So what could he say? Gosh, you go out there, you know he's gassed, it's time, and there's a level of respect of like, man, let me get this last guy. These are my runs. Let me be the one to give it up.

I got this. and you sit there and you, on your way back to the dugout, you're going, this is a bad idea. And there's times it works out and there's times it doesn't. You just kind of keep going. But there is a level of trust of looking at the eye and saying, you know what, I trust you. It's yours.

Go get it. And it pays dividends down the road, you know? Yelling at the own. Oh, boy. Let's go. Yeah, like, what's like, do you think that you have a chance when you get up there to win that argument? I don't think you're trying to win anything. At that point, you're just doing.

What are you trying to do? What is the win? Gosh, just letting it eat. Just you hold it in for so long and you see your guys get screwed. And listen, they're trying to do their job. And for the most part, they do a good job. But there's times where you're just sitting there and enough's enough and you go out and you just yell into their soul. We just heard he wants robot ums.

That's what I heard. He wants robot. Have you gotten too close to where like you spit on? you're like oh crap I didn't do it okay no no man like you're not like you're saying while you're yelling like no I'm no I have not okay um and I actually like it when they come back at you because that's what makes if I mean we are in the entertainment business and people you ever ask to be thrown like just you just go and they're gonna tell me out um once yeah once this was I think last year it might have been 22 but yeah I went out and one of the

first things was get me out of this one you just go at it for a little bit they tossed you That's awesome. It'd be also cool to be tossed. Yes, dude. I'd get a massage immediately. I'd get back to the training. And where did you go? Where did you go, Skip?

When we're at home, I chill right here. I turn it on the TV and just watch it from in here. And it gives you easy access in case people still need you during the game. I'm trying to think of on the road. I try to stay in Chili's? Bennings. Yeah, head to Beneggans. Two for 20 at Chili.

Oh, dang it. Um, no, because I, you still have to do post games. So it's not like you can start drinking and, you know, slur your words. Yeah. That makes sense. Last question. It comes to analytics. I feel like we've seen like the analytic stock market go up and down.

And then it became everything was so over-analysis. It's fun as a per to look at like exit velocity, right? Like that's fun to see and compare. Sure. But it gets to be too much sometimes. And as a manager, how much now do you feel like it's back on the, let's, Let's let human and intuition take over a little more than it was five years ago. I don't think it needs to be nearly as polarizing of a conversation as people make it.

Like, it's information. That's all it is. And I'm going to take as much of it as possible to inform my decision, but it's not going to make my decision. Right. So I'm in favor of bringing everything you got, whether that's a coach that's seeing something and has a gut feel for a player or a situation or someone from upstairs coming down and saying, hey, here's what we're seeing trend-wise. So for me, it's, man, give me as much information to make my decisions possible.

Still, you can contradict that, though, and go, I'm not feeling that. I've never had someone from our analytics department or president or anybody come downstairs and question a decision based on your gut versus the numbers, not once. And that's not everywhere. I can tell you that, yeah. And where would it be? No, I'm kidding. Listen, and, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

Oh, all good. Hey, we really appreciate the time. Skip, thank you. Really cool to see that turnaround already the season. And now rooting for you guys. We've got to keep it going. And, yeah, let's keep it going. I like you. I think I've decided I'm going to play for you someday. All right.

Someday, dude, you're like that. All right, thanks, coach. No, you got it was. All right, thanks to coach, Marmall. Thanks to the Cardinals. We'll come back in a minute. We'll talk to Paul Goldschmidt and we'll do our end. Everybody good?

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He's a football player big. Yeah, he's big. He's not just like big, he's tall. Big bone. He had a big muscleed. Big dude. His hands. Excuse me?

What? I didn't notice. I didn't notice his hands. Yeah, me neither. I was talking more like his biceps, dude. He's big dude. He's super cool to us. I think it was cool that he was a listener of the show back in the day.

Yeah. When he was playing college ball, he would listen to the Bibone show. That was super neat. I think it helped, too. And honestly, I think I got the best compliment that I've ever gotten in this industry or whatever, you want to call it, is after the interview, he says, like, wow, now I understand, like, why you guys do what you do, you're really good at it. And I'm like, that's really cool.

That's cool. Yeah, he said he hates doing an interview. But he enjoyed this one. Yeah, he wanted to do this one. Yeah, which was cool. I think, again, it helped that he was familiar with the show as a fan. And then, yeah, we just kind of let him have it. You know, how we do.

Here he is. NL MVP, 2022. And by the way, he started playing some ball after we left. Yeah, he did. Homer's, smackaroos. The team started playing ball after we left. Did you guys have any influence on that? That's up to you to decide.

Well, we left and they were like, thank God. And they got a lot better. I saw Nolan Aeronado hit a homer. I say yes. We were with him. We were with him too. I'm just saying. All right, here you go.

Paul Goldschmidt. One of the guys on our show was the announcer for the baseball team. And so at Texas State. At Texas State. All right. And he was like, you guys are going to see Paul Goldschmidt. I actually have a small mini helmet on my desk that you had signed somewhere. I don't know how, but it's on my desk right now.

You bought it at a charity auction. That is exactly what I got it. That is what I got it on its only way. I wear it every day But no, it's a mini help And it came up because he was like, oh, I used to call his name out We were like, oh, yeah, he went to Texas State Yeah

So we thought it was cool, you'd even heard of us I know, that's true Who knows, I might have heard you all in the radio, you know, But no of this, what I really remember We would have 6 a.m. workouts And I remember we'd be sitting in the cars like me and my three roommates And how'd you start the show? So I'm like, good morning.

or something. Yeah, yeah. So we try to get pumped up before the coaches would tear us a new one. It's probably why you're so successful. Let's be honest. It was great. You know, because I was pumped up.

That's probably like the thing that motivated us. And, wow. How did you end up at Texas State from, because you're from like Delaware, Northeast, right? So I was born in Delaware. My parents are both from the Northeast. And but we moved to Texas when I was about a year old. So I grew up in Texas, lived in Dallas area for a few years. And then I grew up outside of Houston and the woodlands.

And so just, you know, got recruited by a few of the Texas schools and chose Texas State and it was awesome there to I was looking back at like the act the hard data of your career I didn't realize you'd been drafted so late when you were drafted even you went to college right you didn't go play a minor league ball what was we had to go to I did go to the minors after college but I'm saying a lot of like people some folks I know don't even go to college they go right yeah they go that's true yeah what clicked was it physically was it mentally much like to be drafted that late at the Dodgers drafted you Dodgers took me in four ninth round, which doesn't even exist anymore.

Just they, like, done that round. I think we only do 20 rounds now. So what happened? Like physically, mentally, what was it for you that clicked in a way of like, oh, I'm starting to get this now? I mean, I was always a good player. I just think, you know, every team knew. Like, this guy's going to need more time if we're going to draft and we're going to

even, you know, most of the guys that are signing are just very, very talented out of high school and they're just, you know, we need to get this guy now. It's not even waste going to college. but I think probably half of the league are probably college guys. And so we go to college, you continue to mature, continue to learn, get a lot of playing experience. Even then I went in the eighth round, so there was probably 200-something guys drafted before me.

So I think, again, same go to the minor leagues and just kind of see what's happening and continue to get experience. That was probably the biggest thing. I think I just played every single day as many games as I could, continued to just practice and work as hard as I could, and just wanted to be really. ready if I got that opportunity. What was your ascension? Did you go rookie ball A, AA, AAA, AAA majors, get sent back? Like, what was that? Man, I got the, I got a fortunate. I went to rookie

ball the first year. It played pretty well. Didn't get called up that year. So the next year, I went to high A ball and didn't get, I had a good year, but didn't get called up again. And I'm like, okay. And then I got to AA the next year. And I was having probably the best year of my career. And my man, I guess they're just going to let me keep playing. And then all of a sudden, And I got the call, and they said you're going to big leagues. Got to skip AAA and go up with Arizona. We played San Francisco and obviously a day and a moment on there. Did you stay up?

Did you ever go back down? No, pretty fortunate that, you know, as always, I think that's one of the hardest things when you get called up. It's just like trying to get comfortable. You want to get a few hits, especially some big hits. You're not going to – most guys aren't going to get up there and just dominate. So, you know, I definitely had my ups and downs, but was able to kind of do enough to to stay up.

One of my best friends. You actually had the biggest contract. They replaced his biggest contract. One of my really good friends is Matt Holliday. And so he got sent down. He didn't come up here, but same. He got set back down. We're going to let the leaves to get blown.

Can we edit this out? Fire them. Fire them. You have... We need those guys. Yeah, yeah. So what are they doing? Blowing water off the field? Water or just

dirt, sunflower seeds, whatever it is. Do they not know who you are? No, they do. That's why they take such good care of the field. Somebody said that they're the best around. Do you just say that every ground's crew? Or is like what makes them so good? No, they do good. They don't even care that the stars doing an interview.

They definitely don't care about interviews. I think to me it's just they care about it. We're now on to name names, but there's some places where the grounds crew kind of does their job, and they leave and you don't see them for a few hours, or they just kind of like break the infield. and then you see most places where the grounds coup is always there. If something needs attention, they're kind of going overboard, like, you know, sweeping up Sunflower Siege,

which make no effect on the ball. Do you feel like if you bench press a lot, your swing gets a little tighter? I do. Plants off ball. Yeah, of course. No, yeah, there's a point in no return where, you know, too much bench press is too much, but I think you also want strength, too. Do you ever max out? No, wait.

The last time I did that was probably in college, and so no, I think not many guys are maxed out. Yeah, I did that like three weeks ago. Yeah, take a guess. Take a guess. 500 pounds. We'll take it. Close, man. We'll move on with it.

Real close, man. Yeah, we'll take it. A real question. So in 22 when you win the MVP, do you watch what's happening as it's going? Like, you think, like, I'm in the race. Like, do you keep up with that at all? I really try not to. It's more just like, I don't want.

want to get distracted. You know, I don't want, oh, I'm doing good. Let's keep it going. Or if that adds pressure, oh, I'm struggling. Now I need to step it up. So for me, it's just really staying in the moment. But that year was unique just because I went to the All-Star game and then going into that last month, you know, you get asked a lot of questions by the media. And I think that's where I just kind of find everything out. And so I knew the last month that, you know, me and a few other guys, we had a chance once you did that. So I didn't want to put too much pressure on myself and I actually didn't have a good last month so maybe maybe that was the reason but ended up good enough and it was able to win that award what's a slump for you how many

a bats without getting a clean hit any hits a clean hit I mean I'll take any hit I can get but I mean you start going you know you go a whole series just three or four games I mean you're thinking man that was like over 12 over 13 over 12 I wouldn't call it a slump maybe double that maybe you get in the 20s, you're like, okay, this is got to usually be some bad luck once you get to 15, 20. I mean, you could swinging bun or you can find a hole out there somewhere, but when you start to get it there, and I think a couple weeks ago, I had like 30. That might have been, if it wasn't my longest, it felt like the longest. What do you do to not think about it or what do you do to break it? Break it, you just keep waiting and, and again, try not to try not to press.

And for me, it's a little bit, maybe just have some fun with it. But I think, Seriously, just trying to stay in the moment. I mean, each day is a new day and try to just keep that mindset. And, you know, we've been training for that. So same thing when you're going well, you don't want to show up and just kind of goof off for a few hours and not get ready for the game. So try to just find that sweet spot of focus, but still having fun. Goldie, when you hit one out, do you know as soon as you make contact with the bat that it's gone? I'd say about 98% of the time, yeah, there's the 2% where you're like, oh, that's going to be close.

and whether it's the wind or just the way you hit it and then you're just kind of watching. But yeah, 95, 98% of time you're like, you know it's gone, which even watching other guys, they hit it. And I'm like, I don't know when they start celebrating and goes over by like two feet. I'm like, man, how'd you know that? Every once in a while you get caught.

And then that's why you got to make sure you're running and don't get embarrassed out there and throw it at least get a double. But I don't know. Maybe just because we've done it. I don't know why, but it's just like, you know, like, even a BP, that's gone. Although the worst feeling is when you think you get it, and then they catch it.

And you're like, oh, man, that's something's off today or something like that. The NBA working a lot of the players with load management, right? A lot of games, not as many as baseball, but, you know, they're playing 90 games. They run a lot more than us. They do run a lot more than you, but you play a lot more.

How do you feel about load management in Major League Baseball to keep players healthy or longer? Well, I mean, that's one strategy. I think for me, when I came up, you had to play every day. If you didn't play every day, you know, you weren't going to have a job, honestly. So, you know, I kind of give our guys a hard time if they're taking, I mean, the play does, it's not really the player's choice, you know, it comes from the management or the coaches or whatever. And I understand that there's times to take days off. But I think just the whole theory on that has changed a lot.

I mean, what NBA, NFL, MLB is like you, you played until you got hurt or until you couldn't play anymore. And so that was kind of the way I was brought up. So it's hard to change my mindset on that. I think there's a mental part of that, too, that's really good. It's like, man, maybe I'm not 100. I mean, you're never really at 100%. But maybe this would be a good day to take off. But somehow you go out there and it's, you know, it's almost like you're just that mental toughness,

that physical toughness to push through it. And I think that can pay dividends in the long run. But there's also times when, you know, you got to take days off. All right. Final five, Eddie, your question. Can you hear people when you're on debt? Like, and I don't want to give them fuel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I remember I went to a Mets game like a long time ago. and Mike Piazza had to just dyed his hair like white, like blonde, and somebody was like, Q-Tip, Q-Tip! And 100% he heard him, but Mike never turned around. Like, can you hear him one? And how do you deal with that crap? Yeah, yeah, you can hear him. And, you know, for me, it's like just that perspective.

I think there's times where maybe you can, you know, get annoyed or whatever. Usually when you're struggling and then, you know, you're going good. You got two hits and a homer. Like, you say whatever you want. I'm about to go get my third hit right here. But I kind of just changed my mindset of, like, just kind of enjoying it and just taking it. I mean, it doesn't happen.

At home, obviously, they're cheering for you most of the time. And so you go on the road, you know those tougher environments. And I'm just like, it's fun. And also, man, I grew up going to a lot of ball games. And I yelled at a lot of guys. And I was an amateur. So I always talk, I mean, this is payback now. And so when it happens, I'm looking back at my 16-year-old self

as I was in the stands talking trash, like, all right, you deserve this right now. And then that kind of just makes me smile and just try to take it in. All right, four left. Who did you play with or again? when you first came up where you're like, that's freaking cool. I'm on the field with this person. Well, my favorite player was Lance Berkman growing up in Houston. So when he got to first base and he knew who I was, that was pretty cool.

But, I mean, then there's Derek Jeter at the All-Star game. I mean, that was like everyone's favorite player. I think those two guys kind of stick out. And a lot of times my rookie year was like, don't think about who's on the mound, you know, because I've been competing against this guy. But I've been watching a lot of the guys for 10 plus years and you knew him. Maybe you're rooting for him. or you just know how good they were.

And it was almost like this mental mind trick to just be like, all right, he's just another guy or, you know, compare him to someone else to try to just, you know, stay competitive. Is it cool to be at the mall or someplace and see, like, someone wearing your jersey? And do you even go up to them? Sometimes? No, I usually, I won't go up to them. But, no, it is cool.

And I think, especially when it first happens when you're young. And now even now, and you just see the kids especially, because I still picture myself as a kid. And, you know, I watched baseball in all sports. every night and just wanted to be like those guys. So I think when I see those kids and, you know, used to be autographed now. I'd say, can I take a selfie with you or can I take a picture? But, you know, you walk away like, man, that was really cool because I could, you know, see myself in their in their shoes. All right. Final two questions. You play a lot of baseball. You play a lot of baseball here. But where is your, it's going to be difficult question possibly. Where do you like to play that's not here?

I mean, wherever I play well. What, but you're going, what, what stadium do you like? aesthetically or you hit well in. I haven't played well there, but I do like when we go to Philly. You talk about fans talking trash. There's good as anyone. And so I kind of try to just enjoy that energy that those stadiums bring. And with them kind of, you know, being in the World Series a couple years ago and be so good, that places out a lot of energy.

It's a good place to hit. You know, no one wants to go to the stadium where there's not as many fans. And then also as a hitter where the outfield's huge, you know, if you got, you know, the ball, where the ball flies or the pitch. You know, probably hate going to, like, the coolest field where the ball just flies out. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, anytime we can kind of feel that adrenaline, feel the crowd, feel the big game, whatever it is, you know, that's fun.

Because with 162 games, we're not feeling that every day. There are some games as much as we don't want to admit it that can just kind of feel just kind of a little bit more boring. And so when we can get that adrenaline for whatever reason, whether it's the fans, the stadium, sometimes it can be the other team or something that's happened. It's always fun that way. All right, last question. The culture in sports, NFL, especially NBA, you're seeing it. I don't know if it happens as much in baseball, but like after a game where players will trade Jersey, does that ever happen with you guys?

I saw it the last couple years, but not as much, right? No, not as much. And again, like in those, I don't know why, but I guess it's probably tradition. In those sports, the players are kind of on the field at the end and they're kind of shaking hands. Where in baseball, we just shake hands with their own team. So you don't really have that much interaction, especially once the game's over. but when we had Albert Pooleuos and Ida here, Molina, the guys were coming across,

hey, can we trade jerseys or after the game? So you get the greats like that, you know, guys will go out of their way to try to get something from them. Well, this is what I have. This is my final suggestion on this question. So because of that culture, you probably don't know this.

So I was the youngest member ever in the Radio Hall of Fame. You'll be in the Hall of Fame one day, for sure. I'm going to trade you in my microphone. Look at this. This is yours. You get to have this. All right. But what do you give that?

me back the chores. I mean, I guess I got to go with a jersey, right? No, no, it's what, you don't have to do anything. So what you're going to want is a baseball bat, because that's the best collectible. We also debated what the best collectible was. For me, it's baseball bat for sure. And I get, and that's what I have from guys on other teams that I like. And so if you go, go to my house, I got, I got a bunch of them on display. It's cool because they're all different. I don't know if all the microphones are the same, but, you know, in jerseys again, they're cool, but they're all the same. They're all mostly the same size

for bat. You know, the grips are different. I don't know if most people know. The wood bats can be completely customized. Way, shape. There's limitations, but, so you go pick up Albert Pouls's bat. That guy was like a Greek god,

so he's got a heavy bat that he can swing somehow faster than anyone. You might get another guy. He's got, you know, a skinnyer bat or a lighter bat. And so to me, it's cool when people come over the house and they want to see all the players different bats. What about the helmet though, Paul? I mean, that's just the size of your head.

So that's, uh, there's not, they're all the same shape, but yeah. We debated. Okay, I'm going to sign this Hall of Fame microphone. I'm going to pass this to you. This is the first. I've never done this before. All right. Yeah.

And so we know you're going to value and treasure this. I'm going to definitely, it'll be displayed. It'll be, it'll be with all my other memory in the garbage. Um, and then we'll just see what at some point later today. What comes up? Yeah. What comes back? I'm going to sign this.

Here you go. Here we have a silver one. Oh, let's go. do we need there you go read thank you um seriously though which which one of y'all is from st louis or st louis fan neither i mean i thought one of y'all dude what's crazy is i was telling him earlier that my dad he wanted a business trip when i was like eight or nine years old and brought me back to st louis hat and like i mean automatically at that age you're like i love the cardinals you know so like i don't have a team i'm from texas too yeah the astros were our team yeah for sure i mean i love the cardinals

dude yeah that's cool can't tell you the truth got been very quiet about the truth you're a cup's fan massive. That's why you're here tonight? No. To watch it. Watch this beat your team. No. I have not said that. I'm being respectful and I even have on a red STL hat. I know that's impressive. Notice that like there's not a cardinal on it but it's me trying. I'm trying. Yeah, we're in St. Louis. That's fair. Yeah, you're halfway there. We're good. I'm trying. And I did not admit that to anybody and I'm being, but yeah, yeah, I grew up a massive Cubs fan. I still have respect for that. You got to cheer for your team. You got to be loyal to your team. Are you a Cowboys fan?

No, I'm not a Cowboys fan. All right. Cowboys, man. Are you a Texans fan? I like the Texans. I've just been gone from Texas for so long. It's just hard. My brothers and my dad, they go and they root for the Texas.

They still live in Houston. I don't know. I don't really have an NFL team, right? I mean, I hate to say it, but it's fantasy football now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate that because I love rooting for teams, but I just... Did you play high school football? I played in seventh and eighth grade, but I didn't play in high school.

Were you bigger than everybody? By the end of high school, but not when I started. I mean, I think that's what kind of, I was kind of, hey, go play wide receiver, and you're kind of short and quick, but I loved baseball, and I didn't choose baseball because I thought I could make a career of it. I just, I liked it, and I was getting pounded by a lot bigger guys, and in the state of Texas football is no jokes, so here we go. All right, here we go.

Sharpie. Thank you. all right here we go this is a hall of fame i'm never giving away a microphone before oh you got to write h of on it to of course my hero huh i'll get this to anthony rizzo for you i've been i'll get it to him and so all the time i've ever done this he still there you go paul go cards hey go cards that's awesome yes go cards go cards let's go let's go all right and we really appreciate the time do this is awesome throw that away as soon as we leave all right there no chance It is.

Thanks, Paul. All right, thanks to Paul, or as Eddie calls him, Goldie. Goldie. Thank you. And check out our full Too Much Access episode where we talk to them, obviously, and we play ball on the field. And Eddie breaks his foot. And I want everyone to know, like, look, I had broken my foot early on.

So when you see me miss all those fly balls, my foot was broken. I hear you and I completely agree that your foot was broken. But that foot doesn't... When you're trying to run and get to a ball man... Even the ones you weren't running to, the form. That I know. The wind was blowing. Wind was blowing.

And if people could just see that wind blowing in St. Louis that day, that ball was moving left. Was your adrenaline just pumping or what? Yeah, dude. I mean, there was no one in the stands, but all you see are seats. You're in the stadium. And it's just, I mean, it's like high tense moment. And that ball's coming. And it's coming fast.

And it's moving left. It's moving right. And then you're going to put your face right under it. I'm like, no, I'm not doing that. Well, no, but that's how you catch a ball. Go watch your episode, Mr. Bobby Bones on Instagram. or at Too Much Access Bobby Bones. And we will come back after this quick break.

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He's the writer-director. Who do you think he is? I don't know. You mean the like the president? You think Canada has a president. You think China has a president? You think China has a president? those walk

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wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so a couple things, one, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson that has been moved in November 15th. So they are going to still have the fight. And it wasn't that Mike Tyson was so, so, so sick. He couldn't fight. He got it all sort of couldn't train. So like he had all sort of flare up when they pulled him off.

He was in a wheelchair off the plane. But you wanted a wheelchair for your foot, so it's like, eh. That's true at the grocery store. But so they still expect the fight to happen. But it wouldn't have been fair because Tyson could. couldn't train. Hey, what's up with Connor McGregor? Yeah, what I saw a post that said, that

said find out why he canceled the press conference and I was like, oh, click on the link and it was some subscription. I'm like, I'm not doing this. I saw a promo for it last night on the game, during the game. The fight is still on. Yeah. The fight is still on. For June

28th, I believe. Or 29. That's Saturday. I thought it might be canceled. I thought McGregor might have been injured, injured himself in training or something. I don't know. That's all Chandler, like, posting stuff on his Instagram. Dude, Chandler looks strong. Motivational quotes and crap.

He looks strong. He looks like he's so ready to go. I mean, we're all rooting for Chandler, right? We are, 100%. And I love, I love McGregor. I do, but I feel like McGregor's that, uh, that's just kind of been chilling, making movies and kind of just loving the... He was, like, at a club.

You get to see the clip of him at a club like a week ago? Uh-uh. Yeah. Was his wife? Yeah, they were, like, going on pretty hard as his wife. What do you mean? What is they grinding? They were, they were having, they were, I don't know, I thought maybe he was drunk or on something. They're at a club going hard

Yeah, go on. See, and then all you see Chandler, this dude's at the gym. He's not at the club. I can't say what it's for and two final things will be done. I can't say what it's for. You guys know,

but they won't let me say it yet, but I am playing in something and they've asked me for a walkout song. Oh. So be thinking about that for the next episode. Okay. A walkout song.

Because I, it... Yeah, something that represents you. And I'm not sure if I'm, what I'm doing, because you know, right? I do know, right? You know, right? I'm going to say anything. I think so.

I'm not sure if it's on TV or not. It might be streamed on something. Usually. I've seen it on TV. Yeah. You have? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I did not know that for sure. We can talk about that afterward. But think about that. I need to come out to a walkout song. Don't spend a whole bunch of time on it. But we'll do that.

Okay. And then I have, let's do our final thoughts. And then I'll wrap it up. You have your final thoughts? Eddie. Yeah. He's searching for a final thought right now. No, no, no, I have it. I have it. Do you want to read that status sent you? Oh, Eddie sent me a DAC and Justin Jefferson.

I'm the shocked that you didn't want to talk about in the episode. Oh, CD and Jefferson. Oh, yeah, yeah. Basically, it's a day. What do you mean you threw it away? I had a bunch of paper here, and it's basically... It's a comparison of Justin Jefferson and CD Lamb. You want to read it? It's right here. But I think the quarterback... Sure, but it's kind of saved on their favorites. Everything's not the same. So, okay. Seasons, four, four.

What do you mean everything's not the same? Obviously, they're playing different teams, different stadiums. And they're different quarterbacks. Different quarterbacks. Different goals as a team. Great. All pros. Of the four, Justin Jefferson has one more.

So what are the numbers? But hold on. So I would say Justin Jefferson has 33% more all pros than CD Lamb. That's a pretty significant number. What's an all pro? Pro Bowl is three. Easy to get to the Pro Bowl. I almost got voted to the Pro Bowl last week.

That's true. That is true. It's so stupid. Catches are basically the same. Stop with the basis. the same. There are three catches apart. It's not even 1%. And who's on top? CDLAM has 395. Justin

Justin is 3992. Exactly. No, but here's my point. Point CD. No, with three less catches, Justin Jefferson has over 700 more yards. But you don't understand those situations. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know if they were Hail Marys. You know what? They were probably down. Justin Jefferson sucks and C.D. Lamb's the best.

How many touchdowns? You see that? Justin Jefferson 31 touchdowns in four seasons. But I will say, Eddie. I'm sorry. Justin Jefferson. missed almost half the season last year. Well, that's on him. That's on him. Hey, what do you say? That's showbiz, baby.

That's fair. So you're holding tight with it. Yeah, dude, I'll send that to you. And they should pay him a whole bunch. Because if they do, you know, they can't sign other players. Yeah, I didn't say that. It's a cap. But whenever you talk about the top receivers, I want you to put some respect to CD of his name.

I do say that he's probably fourth. Bones! You put Justin Jefferson at either one or two. Yes. You need to put CD in there. Either two? No, four. put him at four.

You're crazy. Because one and one A, to me, is Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, and Tyree Kill is two, but that would be three. But Tyree Kill is three, two. And Cid Lamb at four. I feel like this is a pretty good spot to be. I'm going to say, nowadays, the big receiver, top five, that's pretty dang good. Yeah, man, congratulations on the moral victory.

I mean, it's a top five receiver. Hey, Jason Tate, I'm like number seven overall in the NBA. He's going to offend all of us today. Come on, come on. That means Porzing is the top three. Not after one game there. Uh, Kevin, what you got? Yeah, I got some personal news, actually.

He's pregnant. Oh, yes. What do you have? I don't know the news. I broke some news to Eddie not too long ago. That's messed up. And apparently he got mad at me because I didn't tell him myself he had to find out from somebody else. What's the news?

The news is I am in a relationship. Have we already done this once? No, you haven't. Did you hear that? But the last time he had a girlfriend when he did that, right? Did we do this last time he had a girlfriend? I think you might have just asked me about it. I don't know.

I don't think so, bones. Oh, okay. I don't know. It's not that shocking because, one, you're a pretty good dude, normal dude, and you already had a girlfriend in one point. So I guess I'm not that shocked. This is a serious one, though. Serious girlfriend.

It's the same girl. What? As before? Yeah. I'm back with the same girl. Wait. That's the twist on it. That's a twist on it.

Okay, now we've twisted. Yes. Okay. So that's a twist on it. You just hit this with I see dead people and I'm like, wow. Six cents. And I'm back with her and things could not be any better. And yeah, like I just said, it's a very serious one.

How'd you guys get back together? It was me. Took about a year off. We didn't even talk for a year. I did a lot of work on myself. Therapy, actually, is probably the biggest thing I could put that to. I did a lot of work on myself. It wasn't with Eddie, right?

No, no. Yeah, we would meet once a week. So a completely different person, much more intentional now with my feelings and with her, and things can not be. That's good, man. That's awesome. Yeah. I was not expecting this.

It was the same girl, though. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I mean, I liked her. She used to come to our basketball games when Kevin was an assistant coach for my 10-year-old son. I'm surprised she took you back. I am, too. Thank God. Mostly when we're dudes and we do dumb.

Yes. It's hard to like, usually somebody else scoops them up. Yeah, that's what I was saying. That she didn't have someone else. That's what Eddie said. He's like, she wasn't with anybody. I was like, no. And he's like, wow, you got lucky.

I know, dude. I know. So, very happy. Very fortunate. Okay. Happy for you, man. Thank you. So here's the decision I had to make.

Oh, yeah. This is the invitation to, after RSP, by 5 o'clock today. It's the Tops transcendent party invitation. I bought it online. What day is that? It's on it's in Baltimore Um

Oh, today's in August The date's in August. August? Yeah. Pretty open in August. So, I don't even have to look at my calendar. I'm open.

The deal is, and it's tough. It's a tough decision. Yeah, I bet it was. But I'm pretty clear in August. Here's the deal. Uh-oh. Eddie, I'm going to offer it to you.

What? Yeah. Hold on. Yes, baby. Hold on. But you don't, you get to go. I don't know who the, Celebrity is going to be this there. I don't even know what it is, but any of the cards that they give away, I'm keeping.

Just give me one. Okay. I'll tell you what. I'll give you a few. Okay. But overall, because I had to pay $2,000. I forget how much I had to pay for this. 25. Maybe 28. Something like that. Yeah, that's awesome. That's how much, because they usually went for $5,000, and I knew I got it last minute because the person probably freaking out he wouldn't be able to sell it. That's the invitation right there. So I got an email. It's a golden ticket. So, yeah, it's like Willie. I have mine. It's got a seal with a baseball on it and everything. So here's the date.

Yeah, I'm making sure I'm open here. I see dots. It's, ooh, I got a dental cleaning on the 23rd. I got to find the day. All right. It's not a 20th. I just put the dentist.

I'm clear. It's the 12. Okay. 12. No dot on the 12. Dude, I'm open. What time are we leaving? I'm going to put this in right now.

This is amazing. So we'll go to Baltimore. We may all go to Baltimore. Baltimore. We may go to do the podcast up there too. I don't know. I'm seeing if we can get any sort of access anyway. Sneak these guys in? They can't get into this. Well, why not? Because this, hey dude. No, they can dress up like chefs or like some kind of security. Oh, backdoor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like wedding crashers. I can do that. No problem. Okay, so I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, but once our SVP, you can't not go.

Yeah, yeah, well, let me find out with the boss. I'm sure I'm good. But I have to know in like the next hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going home right after this. Okay. So I'll keep this. August 12th. RSDP you. It says RSDP about 5 p.m. Eastern. And you're not going to get pissed if I... So that's 4 p.m. Central. What?

You're not going to get pissed if I like see like Wade. They bring Wade Boggs and me and Wade just hang out all night. Nah, I won't be pissed. All right. Okay. Because Wade's my dude. What? Wade's my dude.

Okay. Who cares? All right. Next up. So I saw something and I got Mike a gift, much like I got Kevin a gift with the Robert Parish jersey card. So I was on, I go on this auction. site. It's called a heritage auction.

A lot of times it's like crazy stuff. Like fancy stuff I don't even get involved in. I bought a few cards. Yeah, I bought like Pee We Reese 1941. Whoa. Stuff like that. They have really cool stuff. That's cool. So I got online they were doing an auction for this. What? Your videos.

They were doing an auction of classic cartoon movies. And the auctions were, because back in the day when they used to animate, they would just draw it hundreds of times and like basically flipbook it. Yeah. So what I have here... You don't do that anymore?

Nah. Computers now, man. What I have here for Mike, it's from 1940 and the movie Pinocchio, this is Strombole, one of the animation drawings from 1940.

Holy crap, that is amazing, Mike. That's sweet. Like all the information is up on the side here, but it's like from 1940 and it's got like it was like a production 2003 scene eight whatever that is but that is stromboli from pinocchio in one of the many animation drawings they did that is amazing you know how much i love animation yeah and this is like old school awesome i thought yeah like an animation cell has been my dream of like owning something like that so there you go i kept it it's not bent it's in the thing do whatever you want with it or we can flip a coin 50 50 50

Hey, Mike, what you need to do is... Hand that over to Mike. You need to find... Don't wrinkle. I'm not. I'm not. You're grabbing it all aggressive. I'm not.

You get a color on it. Hey, what you need to find, Mike, is that scene, that frame in the movie. That's amazing. There you go, man. That's cool. Somebody really drew that. So now everybody's got a gift. You got a gift?

I'm going to a party. You know who got screwed, Kevin? He got like a... Robert Parrish. $15-20 card. And Mike's got a Pinocchio in 1940. And Eddie's got a... Going to a party.

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