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01:53you get your podcast. We got a whistle. What? Thank you. We're on us.We're on Mother Juckas.I didn't get to watch a lot of the basketball game last nightbecause I was watching OU win the natural championship again.Dang.Family, man.That is crazy.I watched a bit on my phone, but I never fully could commit, Kevin.
02:33So we'll talk about the NBA playoffs for a second.I did bet a thousand bucks last night on the Mavericks plus six and a half.What the?How do you do that?So I lost a thousand bucks.A thousand bucks?Uh-huh.Like, how do you do that?
02:48Thought that number was a little high, so I was going to chase it.Hey, I thought that betting amount number was pretty high.I think I'm pretty sure.Let me go, let me go have draft kings.Go ahead.Nine and a half before the game, right?I think I got it at six.I'll look at it all.
03:01The number I'm for sure of is the 1,000 number.Because I was like, you know what, I feel pretty good about this.Which shows you, I don't know, crap.That's the NBA, dude.It's the NBA.It's the hardest thing to bet on by far.Here's what I put.Yeah.
03:16Why betting's easier.Okay, Eddie.Yeah, as soon as one team goes on a run, the other team, you know it's coming.This is the bet from last night right there.That bet, that Kately Clark bet is old.Okay.The middle one.All right.
03:29Oof, it's got that big red loss thing on it.Lost.That's like my, that's what mine looks like.Dallas Mavericks plus six and a half pays minus $110.Yeah, I wagered $1,000.Yeah, I really felt like, I got to think I can win the game.And then so I didn't even watch the first part of it.We were watching the softball game.
03:46and then I put the softball game over for a second, click, click.And then I was like, oh, God, they're down 20 points.Yeah.And I kept checking back at one time they got within like 11.I was like, let's go.We just got to cover that points, that plus six and a half.It's close, man.Yeah, they only lost by 18.
04:00Yeah.Close.So I did see, because I didn't watch it at the beginning that Porzingas played and played well.He was the best player on the court.Crazy.Either team.The best player on the court all night.What did he score?
04:1020?First half?First quarter?20 in the game, I think the first half, maybe like 12, 13.How many minutes did he play total?22 minutes.Wow.Or 21 minutes, 20 points, 6 rebounds.
04:21He's good.I mean, he could start next game, but that's good.He gave him a good, solid game.He was, I mean, defensively, he was the best player on the floor, too.He was blocking shots.He was altering shots.He was unbelievable.And I can't help but think he's been healthy for like two weeks.
04:33Yeah.Just waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.Because you don't come back and play 21 minutes and do what he did last night.If you haven't been healthy for at least a week or two.He was scrimaging.Yeah.But again, not the same intensity.but good for him.
04:46I hate to see anybody that's injured.It's going to be interesting to see what Dallas does.Again, game one and game two are in Boston.I didn't expect to blow out like this.Obviously, I bet $1,000 on Pulitzer 1 and a half.I didn't really believe the Mavericks would win.I thought maybe they'd keep it close.I'd believe they would win.
05:02I'd bet the money line.Yeah.So, yeah, I lost $1,000 there.But I did bet $500 on Oklahoma to win.Oh, there you go.Game 2 of 3, which they did.They won game 1 and 2.And so that's that bet.
05:14I watched them the other day.come back against Florida.Yeah, we watched that one.It was like Tuesday, I think.Well, so they went in.All they had to do was beat Florida once.And Florida beat them the first game.Yeah.
05:23So then it went to Oklahoma won again.And then they were up by, or Oklahoma was down by one, right?In like the six or something.And it came back and I saw that tie.I didn't see the full game.I didn't see it going to extras.So they went to best of three against Texas.And Texas was in one seed.
05:38So Oklahoma beat him first game.And then it's on second game.Patty, our coach, Gaso, as America would call her,is, she's,won four national championships in a row, never been done before.And she has eight total national championships now.She's now tied all time with some old guy from forever ago.It's amazing.
05:54Like it was playing on like different rules where like four teams.Oh yeah.Yeah.Yeah.Yeah.Yeah.Yeah.I mean, you go back to that Florida game though and they were down.
06:01They were down by two runs when we started watching, which is I think the fifth inning.And like just to come.I mean, right there you're like, oh man, this is tough.Like two innings left.You're down by two.They came back and they won that game.And that's just, that's just crazy.Because at that moment, you're like, oh, my gosh, they're not going to win it.
06:20In Florida, it's going to be Florida and Texas.But now they did it, dude.Imagine being those players, too, so much pressure.Like, who's going to break four in a row?So now next year, like, those players, that's a lot of pressure.Even this year, just three in a row.And we've got to keep this going.Yeah.
06:32Not we break this chain.You don't want to break that chain.You don't want to be on that team.And those freshmen, they won a championship every year.That's crazy.Freshman, sophomore, junior, senior.Every year.I just text Patty.
06:41I don't want to text her last nightbecause I've beenwhen they've won the national championshipand that night goes on forever.Really?Because they win.Mexican restaurant afterwards.They have their thing.
06:50They got their orange slices.Then there's a press conferencewhich we went to right after the gameand then she does thatand then there's a big partyand she doesn't go to the first part of it.She lets the kid, you know,they have fun.
07:02She shows up and does a thingbut all the families there.We almost went this year.Kailan wasn't feeling goodso we kind of pulled back last minute.I'm surprised you didn't.Yeah, that's why.Okay.
07:12What's the party?Like, what do you got?You got cake, you got food, you got drinks.Caitlin's dad was on TV a bunch last night.Really?Yeah.Yeah, because he sits with the family.I mean, DJ's too much access hat.
07:24DJ was on.And by the way, DJ Gassow is my brother-in-law, Patty's son.DJ coaches at Arkansas now.But DJ can't wear Oklahoma stuff.He's the coach at Arkansas.Right, you can't do that.So he's wearing a too much access hat.It was all over freaking ESPN.
07:36It was awesome.Yeah.That's really cool.Yeah, there's a lot of food.There's DJ.DJ at the party?Yeah.That's awesome.
07:43Campaign or no, no, because of college?Well, I mean, there's alcohol.I think there was alcohol there, but I don't know that was free for everybody.Everybody couldn't just go grab it.And that's tough for you.You don't drink, so you're not looking to see if there's alcohol.Yeah, that's the first thing I look for when I go to a party.Yeah, me too.
07:57Are we serving here or we not?What's the vibes here, you know?Is there an open bar?Yeah, so I imagine she didn't get in until 1.30 or something or two, so I didn't text her at all.So I just, pile me on.Wait until today.Wait until today.Congratulations, the goats are to the goats.
08:10That's so cool.Four in a freaking row.So is she the best of all time?Yes.Coach and softball.Well, so just analytics.Data.We'll say data more than analytics because it's not currently going.
08:23No coaches ever won four in a row.So she's the only division one coach to everyone for championships in a row.Maybe the only coach ever.And then she's tied all time.Like I said, with eight national championships with some old dude who won eight championshipsback again when they were like i don't know a team in this southeast of america like i think i thinkcolumbus had a team the pilgrims had a team that's pretty much it washington had the cherry treesthat they played yes yeah when are we going to do it too much access with her we almost did this year
08:56and we were going to go do them and oklahoma state and something something something personalhappened where she couldn't be there that day so we didn't go and then she got to doirritated at Oklahoma State.Well,really?To cancel.But I'm just curious.Like maybe you know the answer to this.
09:15But what,where does that success come from?Like I know it's probably a mixture of things,but recruiting's got to be a huge part of that, right?Yeah, but you don't get the recruits until you win.Yeah.You don't win until you get the recruit.So it's like college football.
09:27You're turning around a program.You kind of need a coach to come in and change the cultureand have a little more winning than the last coachwith the same players.Especially pre-NIL.Now if you, NIL, if you come in,you pay a bunch of money to a coach,you give them a bunch of money.
09:41You can shift a team that way.But that wasn't the case with heror it wasn't the case with other programs.It doesn't matter the sport.But if you look at like,let's say an Urban Meyer goes in,or the best scenario is whenever Nick Saban went to Alabama,they went six and six his first year.
09:56They lost like Louisiana Monroe.Yeah.But he did a bit like a game better than the last coach.And so he got a little better with the same players.And there was also a really good recruiter.So he started pulling in slightly better playersand better coaching.and the recruits continue to ascend,
10:12and that's how you change a program.But if you give me or you the best players in the nation,I don't think we can win.Right?Like, there's got to be something more than you recruit.You think you could?Yeah, because I'd hire great assistance.I'd be a CEO head.
10:27I'd be a...Well, if you were just by yourself, though.No assistant.But that doesn't happen anywhere.Nobody does that.You have to go out and play best of three games.You can't, no practicing, no nothing.You just go out there with the best players like Eddie says.
10:36You have to choose your lineup.I can manage it.Yeah, sure.I'm just managing at that point.Yeah.You're the skip.What about?I can win that.
10:43Also, when I watched the game the other day, I'm glad I remember this right now.These pitchers are like 150 pitches.Yeah, because the arm motion.It's different.It's a very, the girl last night that ended up coming into close had pitched the last two games.The last game against Florida, you're talking about three consecutive days.So two days ago, full game against Florida.Yesterday, full game against Texas.
11:04And they brought her in to close the game yesterday.It's because your arm does get tired, but there's,the arm motion is notbaseball wherethat is not how your arm is supposed to throw.Yeah.Your natural arm motion is this.We're eating dinner, right?
11:18And I say, hey, pass me a roll.Throw me a roll.Do you throw it overhand?Yeah.No, you don't.You throw it underhand.It's natural.You get throws all day and never be tired.
11:26They do get tired.They do get tired.Was that lunchbox and Raypopping through our speakers?They hijacked their podcast.I'm trying to picture it.Why are you doing?No, dude, you underhand the roll.
11:40Well, it depends where we're sitting, too.Oh, how you throw a roll?Yeah.You don't throw it like a baseball.No, no, you never do.I mean, that would be too hard.Anyway, to his point, yes, it's more natural to throw underhand.Okay, okay.
11:51toss an egg.They won again.Yeah, that's amazing, man.That's really cool.I'm trying to make my, now I'm down like 500.So you didn't, I thought you had split screens and multiple TVs.Like, you didn't have both games.I was watching my wife.
12:04I do that when I'm watching video, I play video games.I have a three screener.You've been upstairs in my house?Yeah.Okay.So the three screeners.I have a middle screen video game,two screens on the side,
12:14and I will do that in my gamble room.Yeah.I play mad and all I got stuff on I'm watching or gambling on.But if we're down in my life,we put it on the living room TV.And not even during commercials,you go back and check the game out?My phone.
12:28So I had the basketball game on my phone.But then I stopped watching it because it was out of control,and I was like, I just lost $1,000.My nine-year-old had a basketball game,so I missed most of the game last night.I bet a thousand bucks on it.My sons?You would have covered.
12:39They won by 11.They did.What time did you get home?I got home at 9.About 9, 10, 9.15.The game actually went a little faster just because it was a blowout, so there weren't as manylike timeouts and everything like that.So what did you see the fourth quarter?
12:52I saw the fourth quarter.I saw about five minutes of Luca and Kyrie still in.Then they pulled them.But, I mean, the Celts played till the very end.I know.Your team won, too.Congratulations.My team won.
13:04I was very happy.Eddie, I told you you picked the right team.Yeah, I sure did.Well, I picked both.to be fair.It is true.Tonight I have to make my money back,but I also bet them all.
13:13Hold on.Hold on, I'm not chasing.I bet them all at once.So I made a $1,000 bet,then I made three, $500 bets at the same time.So hopefully I can make my money back.I have the fever plus one.The Indiana fever are playing the mystics tonight.
13:28Where are the mystics from?Washington.Yeah.In Washington.So I have that.And then I have Caitlin Clark over 17 and a half points.500 bucks on each of those.I got you.
13:37see them.That's, yeah, that's about it, right?Because when does NBA play again?Sunday.Sunday?Gosh, it's a long wait.Yeah, at least we got to go.At least it's going.
13:48There's something to talk about.We had a game on Thursday.What's annoying about what's happening with the WMBA is,first of all, we're ahead of the game.We've been talking about this weeks.Yeah.We were on Caitlin Clark before it became cool to be on Caitlin Clark.A big fan.
13:59I'm a big fan.What's annoying now is this turned into not just sports.It's turned into a culture war,and that makes sports not as fun.Because you can't just root for a,team or you can't just root for a good good guy bad guy now everybody's got an opinion but it's basedon some political belief or woke or woke or race or and it's like well this is not near as fun asit used to be yeah i just like coming on going well everybody's hating on katelyn clark because she's
14:27rich and they claim she was going to be the greatest so they want to show her and there's obvioushate and jealousy and let's go kately klaus yeah or someone sucks because they've you know missed allshots like something simple like that but yeah not culture stuff exactly society it has it has mademe uh not like watching it as much not the games i'm so watching every wmba game but the talk oh yeahi don't like it because now like normal shows are talking about it really and they know nothingabout basketball in general i'm talking about like the view or insert whatever political showit's like give me a freaking break i just want to talk about shooting threesThat's what I talk about.
15:08So Angel Reese is an idiot.She's an idiot.Whenever she was talking about,people watch me too.People come, it's not just her, it's me.And again, you can roll the clip of you and after thatthat she starts to talk about the league.But she's obviously very jealous.
15:26Yeah.But she's an idiot, but I like that.I like that I think she's an idiotbecause we need rivalry.Some people think Caitlin Clark's an idiot.I like it.That's what we need.The greatest thing, no one would have known
15:36who Angel Reese wasunless they were a diehard fan of LSU or women's college basketball or the WNBA,like the very select few that watch that, you know,because listen, the ratings are big when Caitlin Clark plays.Highest college women's basketball game ever.The arenas are filling up.But Angel Rees saying that made her relevant to people that aren't just fans of Chicago,the WMBA, or college basketball, LSU.
16:04People know who she is, but that's amazing.That's what she should have done.You think she did that on purpose?No, because she backed off of it a little bit after,or she said, you know,us and all,she just should have embraced itand been that hero slash villain idiot.
16:19Yeah.We need a villain in sports.And that villain isn't the villain to everybody.Exactly.The villain's the hero to some people.But, yeah, no one wouldn't know who Angel Reese waswas that wasn't already a diehard fan of women's basketballif it wasn't for Caitlin Clark.
16:33Like, Lex Luthor wasn't even think until Superman came about.Yeah, right.You need the villain.And Angel Reese is good.It's funny to watchbecause she's, you know,leading in, like, rookie rebounds.You have me shots she misses
16:44and just rebounds her own ball?It's crazy.Angel Reese?Yes, Angel Reese.That's how she has a lot of rebounds.It's hilarious.Really?Yeah.
16:50She's for sure a good player.She's for sure a really good player.But I saw someone go,it's not only Caitlin Clarkthat fills up at WMBA arena.It was two teams playing.I forget it was.And they did a pan.
17:02It was like half full.It was a bigger arena.It was a bigger arena,but half full.And the attendancewas on there and it was like 10,000and a 20,000 cedar and they posted all ofCaitlin Clark's 14,000, 15,000, 16,000,
17:14full, like full arenas. You can't even put more people in there.Yeah. To me, even if you don't think Caitlin Clark's good, I don't care about that.But the whole reasonthe WMBA is getting any shine right now,outside of what it would already be getting by WMBA fans isCaitlin Clark or people that are anti-Katlin Clark and that makes it all aboutCaitlin Clark. And I kind of feel bad for Caitlin Clark. She's not reallyinvolved in any of it. She literally just plays basketball.
17:37and it goes all around her.She doesn't really do that many interviews.I hope that she understands that this is part of the gameand that's just kind of how it works.But it's never happened with anybody else ever in the history of women's basketball.I know, but for her, and I feel like when people have that spotlight on themwhere it's just negative and the whole league doesn't like youand you get body checked for no reason, stuff like that,
17:59I think for a normal person it would just get to your headand you wouldn't be able to perform.But hopefully that she understands like, you know what,hey, at the end of the day, this is going to look really good on me.I'm not doing anything.Keeping my mouth shut.I'm playing ball and I'm doing what I'm here to do.That's it.
18:15And like, hopefully she ends up being the top, like the best and just kind of overcome this.And because right now it could get to her head and she can play the complete crap.It's not.I think what she probably, she has good people around her.I'm sure telling her is what's happening on the floor and on social media is not actually what's happening.real life because most of America, they are curious about you.They like you, but you're not experiencing that at arm's length.But if you look past arms length, it's so much greater, bigger, and brighter because
18:51everybody's kind of rooting for you.And you know, and it is kind of a race thing.And I'll tell you why.At least at first, white people aren't as good at basketball.Can we just generally say that?Yes.Okay.So follow me in a movie on this.
19:05White man can't jump.Yes.So whenever there's somebody,and it doesn't have to be basketball,but I use that.White people can't really wrap that well.Yeah.Historically.
19:15Yeah.So old people don't really go to the Olympics.Actually not.Short people don't really,aren't really good at basketball.Yeah.Anytime there's somebody that usually isn't somethingthat ends up being,
19:29everybody goes,what?We need to pay attention to that.and if it'slike Caitlin Clarkyou're likeand it's not just white or black people that are likerooting for her because you would see
19:44a lot of black athletesfor Caitlin Clark too being like she's awesomebut it was just weird that it was a white personbecause white people aren't as goodwhite people are not as good at basketballjust generally speakingthey look at the NBAshort people aren't as good at basketball
19:56old people don't get in the Olympicswhen there's a 42 year old Olympianyou don't think that's everythat's the story for a minuteor even like when you knowthe big centerswere shooting threes.Like, that was just like,
20:06whoa, that never happens.Anything that's abnormalends up beinga highlight of a story.And that's where the initialcomes from.Now, you can take all thatand it's not,
20:17it wasn't in the endjust a race thingbecause she ended up beingthe all-time scoring leader.But I think it was pretty crazythat one,she shot three from so far away.That wouldn't even matter
20:25what color she was.If she shot like that.She was logo shooting.That wouldn't have mattered.But Eminem,great rapper.You didn't know how great?was though it took him a while but at first
20:36I was like what's his white rapper doing?So rare. Rappers usually aren't good if they'rewhite. And he even says that. Right?He says in some of the song he's like if I wasn't whiteI wouldn't sell as many records. What was cool about TigerWoods is he wasn't like a stupid old crotchety white man.Gosh that's so true. Andyou know, and Tiger Woods was awesome but what was
20:52the appeal was he's not like all these other loser white people.So there's definitelyan element of that but it's not in the elementof like negativewe're against a certain race or pro a certain raceIt's sometimes what's cool about Tiger was he wasn't white.I think we all can agree with that.What about another freaking dumb white person playing golf?
21:11Some rich white kid and playing golf?We've seen 100,000 of those.Who cares?Oh, check out Tiger Woods.That was awesome.This young black kid.Yeah, and half Asian.Yeah.
21:23Name Tiger.Name Tiger.You know?Yeah.Okay, look at Spudweb.Look at Mugsy Bog.People still talk about Spudweb because he was,as a short dude,
21:34dunking.It was just that it's differentfrom what the norm is.That's why she became known early.She's really good.All these people are really good.But it takes a while to be freaking great.But she was really good.
21:46She was doing something wild.She was different than other really good basketball players.And then she proved herself.But that gets inserted in the conversation now.But in a negative way.Yeah.Yeah, it's people just spinning it the way that they want to be spunwith their own headline or their own media grab,
22:02whatever it is.And when people will be like, well, she's only famous because she's pretty straight and white.I'm like, no, no, no, no.She shoots it from freaking half court and she's the all-time points leader in all school.Like, that's why.Did people pay attention at first?Probably because she was white.Yeah, probably a little bit because it's like, well, I can't believe that white girl can do that.
22:17Yeah.Because most white girls can't do that.And then it was, even if she wasn't white, but she was just crushing.Like, look at Sabrina, who plays in Seattle.Yeah.She was popping three.He's like crazy.Anyway, all that.
22:30That is a part.Race is a part of everything.but it doesn't always have to be a bad part of everything.Oh, I don't see color.That's not true.But race doesn't have to be a bad part.Like, again, Tiger Woods, not white,but that's what was cool about them because everybody else is white.
22:48So I don't like the conversation that's happening nowwhere everybody has to have an opinion even if they know nothing about sports.Or they don't care about sports.They just want to have an opinion on a culture.That sucks.And it ruins it.And I did wear my Caitlin Clark jersey the other day.And I wore it to the card store.
23:04to turn in my cards for the grading.And the card store.I wore,and I felt kind of like,I wore a jersey to a card store.Yeah, dude.I mean, that's perfect.I know.
23:14It was perfect.It was perfect.Big nerd, big nerd, big nerd.That's fine.And everybody in there was like,oh, it's like,Caitlin Clark Jersey is so cool.And they were like,
23:22where'd you get it?Because we can't,because nobody can get them.They're so hard to get.And I didn't have any sort of hookup.I just was on hold for like three weekson getting him.Anyway, I'm in.
23:31I like Angel Reese because she is,she's the storylinealso when the fevernot the feverwhen Chicago was getting off the busand they were likewe were harassed by peopleit was one person
23:46asking the girl who had hip-checkedCaitlin Clark if she had talked to heryou can see the video they postedno no it was nothingone person it was nothingunbelievable was it a member of the press or just a personit was a dudeI don't know
24:03they had their funand they were just recording it.But they weren't even like, inner interface.The security guard comes right, goes,do, do, do.But then they all start posting,we get harassed,and I literally felt bad for them.
24:12I was like,fans are such freaking idiots.Like, this is sports.This is not real life.There's no need to get on anybody's buswhen they're going to their hoteland be like,you freaking suck!
24:21Yeah.They end of the game.Like, that arena is built for that.But don't go up to their tableor restaurant and do that.Like, there's real life,and then there's the theater of sports.Sure.
24:32But then when I saw it, it was nothing.really it was so nothing that i kind of got annoyed but that's what i like like it's giving me nobodycared about the wmba nobody not fair they have their hardcore fans both of them and they wereboth their fans were going to go to their games but nobody really cared about the the generalpopulation of sports fans didn't care about the wmba at all until katelyn clark came aboutand now what we talked about is kailin clark anti katelyn clark or talk about other girls except katelynclark and even that's because of katelyn clark yepbut I honestly know four, five, or six other WMBA players now that are awesome because of Caitlin Clark.
25:11And I like that.It's worked a little bit where it's expanded me into knowing who some of these other freaking awesome players are.But it's because of Caitlin Clark.Yeah.Anyway, that's my situation there.Kevin, do you see a fan take Jason Tatum's towel off his shoulder after the game?No.Last night?
25:28Yeah, he just walking by.Oh, yeah.He stopped and the security guard went and got it back.They got it back.But speaking of fans just being dumb, like what are you thinking you can just,grab something off of somebody's shoulder.Fans are ridiculous.They don't feel like athletes
25:42that are playing the game are real people.Right. Right.It's like us, though, talking about, not us, but general,talking about celebrities and, oh, can you believe this?You don't feel like they're real peoplebecause they're not to you because you only see themon your phone or on your computer or on your televisionand that's not real life.
25:59Yep.And.But they are real people and props to those athletes,actors, celebrities, whatever, that can just powerthrough it and be like, you know what, I'm going to just stay true to myself.I'm going to let that bother me because that is a different world.Yeah, if it were me and somebody like grabbed me or did something, it'd be Detroit andIndiana all over again.
26:16Popping into the stands.Is that malice in the palace?Malice in the freaking palace, baby.Basketball would be tough because they are right on top of it.They yell.That's why Luca just F you.F you fans.Did you see at the beginning of the game, neither you guys probably saw it.
26:29Did he throw a ball?No.It was still close and he went in for a drive and got fouled and then he kind of like got intothe stands a little bit, you know, and the fans were.just sitting there yelling at him. Nothing bad.Like, just fan fun, you know, and he's just sitting there laughing.He could just tell he's like, I love this.And then he got killed.
26:43He'll be about 20 points.I lost $1,000,000. Sorry, dude. That's terrible.Okay. Let's go overand do the tittle tattle. Get it.Let's go to break first here.No. Okay.We shall go to break and then we'll come backand do the tittle tattle. Thank you.
27:00I feel like it was a little bit unbelievableuntil I really start making money.It's Financial Literacy MonthAnd the podcast, Eating While Broke, is bringing real conversations about money, growth, and building your future.This month, hear from top streamer, Zoe Spencer, and venture capitalist Lakeisha Landrum Pierre,as they share their journeys from starting out to leveling up.If I'm outside with my parents and they're seeing all these people come up to me for pictures, it's like, what?Today now, obviously, it's like 100%.
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29:14I don't know.You mean, like, the president?You think Canada has a president?You think China has a president?Those law a rouset.God, I love that thing.I use it all the time.I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night.
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29:56All right, Kevin, you ready for the tit?Now I am.Little Tattle.He's always ready.Let's go.The Phillies and Mets set the face off at Wembley Stadiumin London this weekend.And if you can watch a baseball game at any non-baseball stadium, where would it be?
30:19That's cool.That's a fun thing.I don't care about the Phillies or the Mets, but taking it to London, that's cool for them.That's an energetic environment because it's new.It's like we get our podcast in St. Louis.It's like it.That was cool.That was fun.
30:31Yeah, that's fun.I like it when they do the games in other countries for football a little bit because they're just earlier.Like, I like that too, because you wake up, you get to watch that like 9 o'clock game.Yeah.Your fantasy starts.I like that.Your day's either ruined or.made better already?
30:45I think like a football game in the Coliseum will be fun.I went to the Coliseum for the first time.The Roman Coliseum in Rome?I don't really have anything there, dude.They...Right? Isn't the ground like all messed upbecause the chambers down there?So yes and no.
30:59I thought the same thing.And I was like, why?What's happening here?So what they did is they removed the floorso you could see what the chambers were underneath.Oh, I thought it was just time that weathered all that.Okay, okay.Time's weathered everything there and it's crazy.
31:11Yeah.And I hired a guide so I could actuallyask questions. My wife wanted to go look at it.Like a real guy or a dude off the street? No, realguy. Okay. Hey, youItalian? You from Rome? Hey, come with us.And I learned a lot about thatand probably stayed a little longer
31:26than I think my wife would have enjoyed. Butthat's cool stuff though, dude. Yes, it's awesome. You did that.But so that's what they did forpeople to see because you can't walk out there. Theytook the floor on the ground andremoved it so you could see all the chambers belowlike where the animals were, where the people would be.Pretty cool. And so
31:42I would pick football in that.fun that's my answer but what was cool about the coliseum too was learning aboutthe gladiators that would fight and there were a couple ways you could become a gladiatorand the movie gladiator is actually a pretty accurate portrayal of a singular version of thatprisoners and slaves yes because i think that was the movie or so yes you could be athey'd use you as a prisoner um so if you got in trouble it's just kind of jail but you canwork your way out. A slave, obviously.Or if you just had a terrible
32:16life. Like you could go in,spend your time if you want enough matches, youwould kind of be liftedup a class. So like instead ofkilling yourself? Like say you're just done.You're just like, man, I don't know if it's sad, but let's sayyou're born into lower, lower class.Super poor. And you're like,
32:32this sucks.I'm going to go and fightfour, five, six fights. I forgot what they said.And you go and you train at a trainingfacility basically where they all train. They all train.together. They didn't fight each other, but they train together.And then if you were able to survive and win your fights, you're out and you're kind of famousafterward. And you're lifted up a bit.
32:51That's amazing.Why?Yeah.And just to think that there was a gladiator like training camp where they're just all therewith their swords and their shields like getting better.And then some people just admitted themselves and they're like, I'm here.I'm going to try to.God's amazing.
33:05There was, and now I'll mess up some of the facts.And in Gladiator, because I haven't seen that in so long.but when I was learning about it there was a kingand he wanted to be a fighter, a killerand so he would go and fight either animals or people himselfbut he would make sure that they were like stabbed before they went outwounded so they weren't full strengthso he looked
33:26What a punkDangOh that makes me madThat sucksIt's okay, it is a long time ago manI know but it still makes me madLike imagine being that person you get stabbedHe's retroactively pissed right now
33:37And I wonder that if that informationkind of like when you find out that like somebody's been cheating in the NBA.Or like cork bat and baseball.Right.All right.All right.A lot of people talking about Kyrie with his comeback story in his career.What is your best comeback story in your career?
33:54I think maybe this.What?The 25 whistles?Hell of a comeback story.Well.We had a sponsor.We didn't have a sponsor.We came back with a sponsor.
34:09Funny?I would say, this is what I would say.Really it would probably be,I thought I was gonna, oh man,I have a couple like big ones where we did a segment,it got lunchbox put in jail,we were suspended for weeks,thought we were getting fired.
34:24This was way early in my career.After that, we were number one.I don't know if it's a redemptionbecause we weren't that big before thenbecause we were new.But yeah, everybody was like,they're over, they're done.We had some real heat on us.
34:37Like we were starting to make some noise.We were 24, 25.So that was good.There was another part where I was fine a million bucksby the FCC for a bit that we did.But I never really feared I was going to get fired.I wondered it, but I never got suspended.You were puckered though.
34:52A bit just because the money was so high.But why I say this is because years and years ago,Andy Rodic and I did a sports showon Fox Sports on the weekends.We were just like, let's just do the show.And they were like, cool.And it was pretty good.Andy has big personality.
35:11We don't mind fighting with each other.We have respect for each other.We can tell each other that are idiot.And then we were friends.We always had that base so we could really go at it.And he then was still playing tennis and finishing his career,so he had to leave the show.So I did it for another year by myself, basically.
35:27They had approached me to take the job after Jim Rome left.Because I was still in Austin, but I was doing Fox Sports.They were like, hey, would you want to consider doing a syndicate?afternoon sports show,but I was going to have to leavewhat I was doing in the morningand I built my own syndication company.It was basically go
35:46and be that gym room position,which I had fun doing,but that really wasn't what I waswanting to do, do,or go to Nashville.So I moved to Nashville,I got completely out of doing sports.I did it for, we did it for a little bit,
36:01but not really.And it was me and lunchbox.Ray.And Ray.and so we did thebut I was touringand I'd have to likein Tallahassee
36:12go find a studioso I stopped doing sportsand I was not goingto do sports anymoreI was goodand Draft Kings camewere like heywe want you to do a sports show
36:21five days a weekand I can'tI can't possibly do thatand we figured out a wayto do thiswhen it was one time a weekand then now we've kind of grownit into something cool
36:29soredemptionI mean I didn't like get firedbut I didn'treally do it anymoreI never thought I would really do sports againbut I think what we've kind of rebuilt this and twoand you know I'm going to fill in for Rich Eisen
36:43like they think I have the skills enoughto go take over a national television and radio sports showlike that's cool for mejust even that people would allow me to do thatbecause that means they think I'm at least good enoughto like hold it up as he's goneand then I got to the NFL draftthat's my other cool stuff coming up
36:58I think this is fun for usthat we built something cool I think this is kind of ahey we're backthat is cool redemption but yeahwe backSo that would be mine.But I didn't step on anybody's leprechaun, okay?Exactly.
37:12Oh, and 11 cents.Yeah.Just saying.All right, next one.All right, if the Lakers hired Dan Hurley,where would you put them in the West?It's weird Dan Hurley's style with professional players.It's also why college coaches, for the most part, don't work out.
37:27And I'm saying he won't work out.And if they offer him $100 million deal, let's go.I go, too.And he may, he's want, you know, multiple national championships.and he may be bored.And maybe that was his dream.But I don't know that relationship,because he's a big personality,
37:44and it's his culture in college.He's for sure the only one that's going to be here next year, ever here.Yeah.If he wants to be, he's the only one that is for sure going to be there.And he gets to yell, and he makes more money than his players,it's just a different vibe in the NBA.But because I don't know,I do listen to people that I trust that do know,
38:03and they regard him as a, like, not just a big motivator,because that's its own style of coach,but like a real developer of talent,like basketball players.And they think that that's why he would go to LA if he does.I haven't seen if it's now announcedor if they've closed the deal.I thought it was Reddick until I read about early.
38:23I know.That came out of nowhere.Out of nowhere.So I'm just going to trust the people that I trust,that know more than me,and they think he'll be a great addition,but it's weird to see a college coach go to the NBAor NFL and succeed
38:34because it really doesn't happena whole lot anymore.Yeah,because you see those clipsof him in practice,you're like,he's going to be ableto talk to LeBron like that?
38:40Yeah, Screamy Johnson, man, for sure.Right.And that's why I'm like,how hard is it to be a head coachwith the Lakers?This is like a Jerry Jones situationover there,like where the Lakers
38:49are still like the Showtime Lakers.Now LeBron's like,he's in charge or that...That's a thing.With LeBron's obviously the biggest personality.It's a good question, too,the biggest personality,the biggest force in the NBA.
39:01Mm-hmm.period.Because that's not just basketball.That's a company.And he's got to sign off on you.And when he's tired of you, you go.So I don't know.And some of these places,
39:13these smaller market teamsthat have had no success,I can see where,like even a Jason kid who goes in and endowed,like that's freaking Jason kid.You have to, he's done it.He's done it at a high level.That's your coach.
39:25You've got to respect that.He's done it in the NBA,better than you have.Yeah.Yeah.And so, because he's an all-time great.My kids didn't know that I had to explain that to him.Who he was?
39:34Yeah.I'm like,we'll watch clips.So if you're LeBron and a coach comes in that never played,like we played it like,it doesn't have to be hurley.But if a coach played like D2 ball at Centennialand all of a sudden he's telling you,
39:44you're like, bro,you ain't even done this before.Right.I don't know the answer to that.But what did Vogel do?Like what?He was an assistant.Before?
39:52Like I see him and where is he at?Where's he at now?I know he's coach for the Lakers,but Vogel, I go see him just like,I don't know this guy's credentials.Even the Miami coach.Was he in Toronto?Was Vogel in Toronto and they won the championship as an assistant?
40:05I don't know. Keep going.It's just that vibe of like he doesn't talk.He doesn't yell.He doesn't talk.He actually looks like he doesn't say anything during the games.And he's very quiet.So I'm thinking like I don't remember him playing in college.I don't remember him playing the NBA.
40:19So I don't know what his credentials are.So I feel like people can get away with that.Like even the Miami heat coach, what's his name?Spolstra?Yeah, Spolsterer.Like I don't know his credentials.But he wouldn't have got away with it had they not super believed in himbecause of how smart he was.
40:32Yeah, I will say.He's a tape rat, they'd say.He was surprising.Whereas, like, at the beginning of his career,like, oh, he's just got LeBron and D. Wade, duh.And then now it's like, oh, actually, 10 years later,he's pretty big legit.Yeah, and not only that, you had people sticking up for him,
40:44where you had Pat Riley going,I don't care what happens with any of the players.Like, you're going to lose if it's up to me.Spolstra is the guy telling his players that.You kind of kind of have that, too.Yeah, that's cool.What do you see?So Vogel was with the Pacers for five years and Magic in 16 and 18,
40:57and the Lakers from 19 to 22.and then the Suns this past yearand then he's already fired.As head coach?Yeah, as a coach.I may be thinking of the coachit was fired this last yearthat was with the Toronto
41:05or the Raptors.He was an assistant with the Raptors?I think when they won the championship.Hand.Darvin Ham?Yeah, maybe.Look that out because I'll probably be wrong with that.I'd love to be wrong twice in a row.
41:18That would be excellent for me to be.Or maybe the bucks or something.I don't know.Okay.Yeah, the NBA, I don't know.It's a weird, weird dynamic there.Especially coaching the Bronx.Because in football,
41:29there really isn't a player that overruns a coach.The Bucks assistant.Was it the Bucks and they won the championship?Yeah, yeah.He was with him.I mean, you had Tom Brady.He couldn't coach Tom Brady.The one person that could was Bill Belichick, and he did, and they thought.
41:42I'm thinking more of what's his name in Tampa Bay.Kind of just let him.I think that was the understanding going in.He's just kind of like, Tom, you're the coach here.He's like, hey, I've been dealing with Bill for 20 years.I'm going to do whatever I want.That's probably the only reason he would even go there, too, right?It wasn't he's there and then he overpowers Ariens.
42:01I think he doesn't even go there unless he knows he has that control.Yeah, there is some type of agreement there for sure.All right, what else?All right, last one here.After a dominant win in game one, if you're a Mavs fan, how worried would you be?On a scale of one to five, five being old-man-I'd be as scared as I was initially.Three.
42:16I still feel, they lost on the road.It wasn't pretty.But you also didn't know how good Porzingis was going to be or what he could have.I think they learned a lot.I think they have a shot to win game, too.I'll probably put $1,000.on it. Oh boy. Oh, boy. My wife believes that theyreally, they didn't try to lose it, but lost it. And just to kind of
42:35let the Celtics feel like, oh, you've got this whole thing. You can kill us. Here,beat us by 20 points. I'm like, really, that's your theory.But you think stuff like that sometimes. Yeah, but not that one. And Kevin thinks teams can sweepteams if they want to. Right. Right. We all have our version of this. I told him.I'm like, really. Okay. So that works. All right, that's a tittle towel. Go ahead.Do we want to do one of the interviews before break or take a break first?We do one interview.Okay.
43:06Hey, Kevin, do set up the manager one here.I don't have the paper.I'll do it away.Okay.Here we go with St. Louis Cardinals manager, Ollie Murmull, also known as Coach Ollie,sat down with him in St. Louis for our visit for Too Much Access.What's his name, though, Eddie?Ollie.
43:21Oh, Skip.Yeah.Eddie called Skip every time.That's right.By the way, too much access doesn't get the full interview.Only 25 whistles does.That's right.Exclusive.
43:29Well, that's a part.That's how I can justify.Because I lose a lot of moneyI'm doing too much accessRight nowBut we use it for this show tooSo full interview hereCoach Marmel
43:40From we're in his office by the wayJust sitting on a couchThere's nothing in his officeYeah we're all nakedAll right with no we're notWe're not just kiddingWe're not just kiddingI only I was
43:47And it was weirdAll right with the CardinalsWhen we walked inWe sat down for a secondAnd somebody walked inAnd like whispered some top secrets up to youAnd I did everything I couldI didn't listen
43:57I literallyNo I don't know what was being saidBut it felt very importantand there were some big decisions being madebut I want you know I did not hear itnow does that happen a lotwhere somebody comes in as likebecause you're so close to the locker room
44:13you've got to kind of keep that quietusually they'll close the doorbut since you guys were in hereit was very low keyI did not listen muchmuch okay maybe I listened a little moremaybe I just heard a couple wordsbut it's actually yeah
44:28did you hear a little bitI didn't hear anythingOkay.We're hoping it's not a thing.Because if it's a thing, it's not.No, no, I don't know what you're talking about.I keep secrets.I know everybody's secrets.
44:38And I don't tell secrets because I'm just an honest man, coach.So I'm going to leave it there.But this is really cool.Like to be a manager of a major league team, all professional things aside like, that'sso freaking cool, right?It is.It really is especially here.Yeah.
44:56I mean, this is, you talk about baseball town.This is incredible.So to do it for this organization, this is your eight.18 for me. As a player, then I couldn't hit. They released me, became a hitting coach,came up through the ranks that way as a manager, and then to be here and then hold that seat,man, it's incredible. It really is. When you look at, you know, Herzog, Mathini, LaRusa,this place has put out extremely in the baseball world, not even just Cardinals, but in Major LeagueBaseball, like the greatest managers in the history of the game.
45:31A little bit of pressure, like, within yourself to just, like, perform because of the past and the history.In a good way, though.Yeah.Like, it's one thing when you wake up every morning, if you were with an organization that didn't care as much as the Cardinals do, like, I'm not sure I would wake up for that and do it every day.It's that pressure, the expectation of doing it well, that actually gets me going.Like, yeah, you go out there and night and you lose, they hate you.There's something good about that.It gets you motivated to, man, make sure you're not missing anything.
46:04And the city loves their baseball and you better win.This city, there's like three, St. Louis, Chicago, Boston, no doubt.You know, culture towns where when it's game day, even if it's a weekday, like you feel it.The first day that you get to come into the office, like what's in the office?Is it empty?Or is there just like a story?Like what happens when you move into a new, I know it's like moving to a house, but how about a new office?It's empty.
46:29Well, no, the chairs and stuff were here.I haven't done a whole lot to it, be quite honest.We did notice that.We did notice like five things in here.I told myself I wouldn't do a whole lot until I got an extension,and I should put some stuff up on the walls now.Yeah.You feel good about that extension?
46:44I feel better about it, yeah.Why not good?No, like, yeah.Yeah, good.Positive, yes.I feel great about it.Yeah, that's what I was looking for.Yeah, I know, yeah.
46:53I'd tell a little better about it about it.Skip, what is, like, what's your day like?When do you, like, show up game day?Yeah.When do you show up?When do you leave?Like, what do you do in the middle?Man, longer days.
47:06You're usually here by 11 or so, 1130.And you start with meetings with the medical.That's who walked in.Kind of gives you a brief on all the guys.We do that.I didn't know that.They let you know kind of anything that you may have happened overnight or anything like that.So you go through that.
47:25Different staff members come in for about two minutes a piece,and you kind of catch up with them.And then you start your prep for that day.We got the cups coming inand you make sure you got everything kind of tightened upleading into that series.That takes a couple hours out of the day.And then right around now, players start showing up
47:42and you have certain scheduled meetings with them.Guys you've got to talk to.That leads you to the hitters meetingright around 320 today.Pitchers have their meeting right after that.Then you go out, you hit BP, you come in,you eat, you shower, and you strap it on.Yeah.
47:56That's weird term.Strap it on.Strap it on.You want me to do.I got a visual.Yeah, me too.I don't like what I visualized.We'll edit that, right?
48:03Yeah, yeah, of course.Absolutely.Probably not.No, for sure, for sure.Who is your favorite ball player growing up?Oh, I don't know if I had a favorite, like, player player.I grew up watching like Omar Visckel,playing short, which I enjoyed watching him.
48:17One of the best defensive short stops in the history of the game.So if I, like, watched a player, probably Omar.Living in Florida, we caught a lot of the,the Marlins games, a lot of the Braves games.So I watched a lot of Braves.But I never had like, man, my favorite player.Did you model yourself positionally after anyone?Or did you watch anyone's tape and like watch how they would do it or ways they would get to the ball?
48:42I don't know.Do you mirror it all after integrate?Probably Bisckell in the way he played the game.I mean, defensive just guru.Can't meet him?Never did.No, never have.I met Maladay once.
48:55How'd that go for you?It went okay.He texted me and he said to give you a hug.I have the text.And I was like, I'm just going to say that.Not going to do it.He said hug him on camera.I was like, I'm just going to say that.
49:06So Matt and I have been really good friends for 15 years, like old school.You guys are super close.Like real life friends.Yes.How did that relationship come about?Man, he was in the big leagues.I was in the minor leagues.And his wife is a better person than him and got along with my wife.
49:22Kosan.Yes, cosom.And we just, we lived in Jupiter.They lived in Jupiter in the offseason, so we would go over there and just hang out and have dinners.And, man, it was, we were there a lot.So got to know him.Once I got this job, I offered him the bench coach job, and he did it for about three minutes,and then chucked the deuce on me, but I still love him.
49:41He also worked for his brother for about three minutes, and then chucked the goose on him.Yeah, he did the same thing for his brother.When you have a friend like Matt and you watch his kids grow up to be, like, I don't want to say better,because they're not, I don't put that pressure on them, but, I mean, they're elite.They're really good.Both of them.Does that make you feel old?I attended the wedding for Jackson, and he was standing up there, and it was the first time I was like, what are we doing?
50:06Like this, I remember him very little.But man, the kid's a beast, and Ethan's incredible as well.So it'll be fun to watch them.And Matt looks like he could still play if he wanted to.Let's say everybody pulled a hamstring today.Yeah, I'd give him a call.All at once.No, I'm not asking that.
50:22Could you give us three innings right now?Me?Yeah.Oh, no, I couldn't do it when I played.But you give us three innings in the field.No, I'll chuck the deuce.Come on.You would chuck the deuce too?
50:31You just go eight men?Yes.I'll play with eight.Yeah.What's the hardest part about this job?Oh, when you do it well, you sacrifice something.It usually comes at the expense of family.And it's hard not to carry the losses home because, I mean, you're thinking about
50:49it nonstop.I got two little girls, there's six and four.And I have to, it takes me about 30 minutes to drive home.and I need to, by the time I get home, I need to be dad.Because the scrutiny is real, man.This town loves one, and when you lose, they hate you.And rightfully so, that's part of being a fan.Things are going well, great if they're not.
51:08Somebody's head, and that's mine.So making sure that when I get home, the hardest thing is that I'm presentand I'm there for my wife and my kids.And then when I leave home, lock it back in and do a good job here.Could you get unlimited massages here with the staff?Oh, for sure, right?Because that's what I would do.Yeah, every day.
51:24I mean, because obviously the players need work.I mean, could you just come in 20 minutes early and every day and have an appointment?Can I?Yeah.Yeah.Do you?I've never got one.Oh, you're missing out.
51:33Yeah.What are you doing?You're missing out.That's the first thing I would do.That's the first thing that comes to mind for you.I'll get all the free clothes and then, and massages, like from the trainers.And all the gum.And seeds.
51:43All the seeds.I can't do a lot of sugar now.It's like an older than sugar just kind of sits in my gut.But I would do seeds.Are you getting one while you're here?I didn't know they were free.So I'll have to talk to the staff.Okay.
51:54Yeah, yeah, we'll see what to.How are your injuries?Do you ever feel them now?Like from your injuries?My personal work?Yeah, from the weather.Because the Midwest, weather's like changing all time.Yeah.
52:04Do you feel them?Not really.No, I tore my meniscus.I feel that from time to time, but no, I'm good.How's your arm?Can you still throw?I don't throw.No, I'm going to like, I was, throw great.
52:15Yeah.Man, see, that's the thing I would do, too.I'd be playing all the time.This is what I would be in the manager.I don't do that anymore.Yeah, I'm asking him, like, do you ever do this?So if you had this job, you're running around the field.Oh, yeah, I'd be a player coach.
52:23And get a massage every day.Yeah, I get a massage, eat a bunch of seeds, change, three outfit changes during the day with all my free clothes.And then I'd be a player coach.Shoe game would be on point too.Absolutely.You understand he's so far away from your job that he's fantasizing all this stuff.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's like, you know, I work and I do stand-up and I do podcasts and radio.
52:43But it's all, like, my dream has always been to be like a big comedian to rock.So I just, we created a comedy band.And we played these shows with thousands of people.But I only did that because I wanted to be a rock star.Like, we've schemed a way to be a rock star.Yeah, we made it on the same way I would scheme a way to be like a player.So what does your day look like today?What are you doing today?
52:59So we did the radio show this morning.Yeah.Then we did a podcast out in front of this.Okay.We're here talking to you.We'll talk to probably Paul.We're going to go.But we're watching the game.
53:08Yeah, we're going to stay for the game.Are you hitting today?I don't know if they let us.That'd be nice.I know some like.I hear you.The thing is.You just talking about how much you would hit.
53:18I know, I know I hear you, but like, I probably need a massage after if I do.That's the thing I'm worried about is that, is your whole closet red?Here.Yeah.Yeah, at home?No, I mean, even at home.Like, because you can't wear blue.Let's say you go to the grocery store and you're in blue.
53:34No, I never wear red.No, I never wear red outside.Why couldn't he wear blue because of the grocery store?If I sign him at the grocery store, the Cardinals manager.We're in blue?We're in blue.I'll be like, that's bull crap.I get that anyways.
53:46Yeah.Do you ever read about it?yourself? Oh, no, I used to have Twitter and it's a dangerous place. Very dangerous place. Yeah, it'syeah, you don't want to look. There's no love there. I mean, I do really cool things sometimes.Nobody ever tells me. They still hate you? They still do. Oh, that makes me feel better.Yeah. No, I don't go on there anymore. It's, uh, there's 162. That's so many games.Yeah. So the, the funny question is that's a lot of, even if you're, you have a really good season and youlose, it's 60 games. You have 100 wins. That's still 60 losses that people get a
54:18upset about? They'll get upset even when you win sometimes, yeah. Okay, but the real question is,do you think 162 is too many games? Gosh, I don't even think about it, man. You put your head downand you just go. Like, once spring training's over, I don't know what day of the week it is. I don'tknow what time, like, you just show up and you just go. I've never even thought of it, to be quitehonest. On one hand, I have a lot. Here's my thoughts. On one hand, baseball is such the history of ourcountry, right? No doubt. And it's fun to see today compete with 50 years ago. Okay. You know,Ameris hit 61 and 61 and you have McGuire, but bon, you have all of this. Like, it's fun.This sport does that. It allows that to happen. So I would hate for that to be gone. But I don't
55:08keep up with 162 anythings. Yeah. Like, what would you shorten to? I'd probably go,like in the 140s10excuse melike little leagueyeahwe just do 101 week
55:22I probably gobecause I probably golike 90and thenseven inningsI'm inI'm in on the sevennipping base
55:32yesI thinkone of the greatest thingswhen we did theduring COVIDwhen we did the double headersand there were seveninning double headers
55:39moneyI thinklike football for exampleIt's once a week.90s aggressive, by the way.Well, then I think we should do 81,and everything counts as double against the old school.Like, you do 81.
55:52Okay.So I think 162, as I get olderand my attention span get shorter,I'm like, man, I can't keep it 100 to have anything.Yeah.I wonder if you had any thoughts on thatbecause I felt like July?Like, that's like burnout time.
56:03It's hot.Yes.You're right in the middle of it.Does it ever get like that to you?Yeah, but you get the all-star breakand you get that reset,which is helpful.And three days doesn't seem like a ton,
56:12but when you don't get many days off, three days is an eternity.But what if you make the All-Star team, then you've got to keep going.Does it look like I'm making an All-Star team?Well, you don't make an All-Star office.There's nothing in here.This is the empty office.Literally.So next season, hopefully we'll see some stuff.
56:28But I think you can.I think you guys are.No, for a player.And that's why some of these guys, man, they make it, and they're toast.Like, they are aghast.So I do hear that.And the guys will come in.They'll make the All-Star team.
56:42excited about it obviously but it's it's a drain what about load management and baseball yeah umwhen you look at how you use your pen and given this is a big part like our season right nowdug our subs a whole and you want to give guys like goldie and noddo and some of these guysa day off man when you're trying to catch up that's hard to do um and they're great about it becausethey don't want days off but load management yeah it's a real thing skip where's your phone during theduring the game like like do youyou have it on you or is it back in your office in the locker room you can't have you can't have iton you okay so so say your wife wants to get a hold of you she calls a trainer like if something
57:22real happens even like do you have a buddy who's like man i need to talk to you about somethingdude my my chick left me like i got that's true what do we go right now like you know does it inreal life do you ever somebody needs me during the game yeah they're gonna wait yeah you got towait yeah like if something happens at the house she'll call a trainer and they'll grab me andpull me in here, but if you need to tell me abouta girl leaving you.We'll do that.We do a radio show and we always have those buddies.
57:46They're like, man, I'm trying to call you like, yeah, we're on the radio, man.And like 200 cities right now, so don't try toFaceTime me while I'm literally talking to millions of people.Yes, no, I don't get any calls.Like, people just know.So I don't get anything during the game.If someone really, like if my wife really needs me, that's different.But, yeah, that doesn't happen.
58:04What if the, let's say the eight hole, they get the last out in the inning.So nine's up and they go back.and I don't know, they say they're watching tape,but they go back here to check their phone.Does that ever happen?Yeah, that happens.And that's okay?I mean, it happens.
58:17It is what it is?It is what it is.I mean, the grown man.What if they're getting a massage?What if they come back?That's what I would do.I'll come back in the middle.I'd be like, my hamstring's killing me.
58:25And I'll come back and get some work done on my hamstring.I'm just injured all the time.Like, that's like the greatest, the greatest thing that can happen.Take care of it before the game starts.Yeah.And then you're out there on the bench with the boys.Yeah.Okay.
58:38we were ranking cool things to get from players.I'm going to let you in on a little secret.Mine.So I don't mean for this to be a flex, but it's going to sound like a little flex.I'll do it.I was the youngest person ever put in, like, the Broadcasting Hall of Fame.Sorry about it.Say it with your chest.
58:54I was the, uh...So basically, I'm like, I'm like the Babe Ruth.Okay.Yeah, that's it.Yeah.So we were going to talk with Paul later, and I was going to go, because you have playersin basketball football.one of the culture, they'll trade jerseys now, big part of it.
59:10And so I was going to go, I'm going to give you something to mine.I was going to just give him a microphone and see what he would give me back as the bit.That's funny.That's his back.Without telling him we were doing it.And Paul knows of me a bit because he played college ball down where we're from.No doubt.And so we were ranking the cool things to get from players.
59:31And bottom was the signed baseball.That's like the worst.That's okay.I'm with you.Okay.Yeah.Second would be a batting glove.Yeah, that might be
59:38You think it's been worse than a baseball?I'd rather have a ballOkayYeahWho are those balls in your desk by the way?My little girlsGot itYeah
59:44Third, we got to the very topSo what's the coolest thingYou could getBefore we tell you what our answer wasManAnd don't go crazy skipLike carNot like that
59:54It's not like thatIt's not like sign this carLike something out of the locker roomOut of the locker roomI'd probably rather haveCleats over a batOr a jersey or aYeah
01:00:04I thought cleats over batThey didn't think cleatswas that coolI thought Clayton's awesome.I went batting helmet.When do you ever see anyone give their batting helmet away?Not often.And then they went glove.
01:00:15And then glove.Like glove would never happen.That one's not going to happen.That's like the thing.That would be a...The players have multiple gloves in their locker.Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah.But there's like a practice club, a game glove,
01:00:27and then one that they're breaking in in order to kind of cycle it through.Wow.So...That was number one on the list.I can see that.Do you have any cool memorabilia for players?Oh, man, I rarely ask.From that last year of Albert and Yadi and stuff, I got some cool stuff there from them that they kind of gave me at the end of the year.
01:00:47But I rarely ask, like an opposing team.How do you feel about managers wearing uniforms?I have to.No, I know you have to, but I'm saying, what do you choose?This is a big thing in the city.They get mad when I don't wear my jersey.That's the thing.Yeah.
01:01:03Like go on Twitter, the thing that we talked about.Yes, we've heard of it.Yes.Really?Oh, yeah.And, again, baseball's awesome because it's traditions, right?Yeah.Like, I wear pants and I don't mind, like, throwing the hoodie on and I'm good to go, you know, but they really, like, the jersey's a real thing.
01:01:20So I wear my jersey every day.But let's say they were, they get, you were the only person on the board of change.Would you have managers wear the full uniform?The full uni?Yeah.Gosh, you're going to make people hate me even more.No.I don't think I would either, though.
01:01:35Yeah.I think that's one of the traditions that I don't.Because most, not you,great physical shape.Yeah,you look good.You look good,but I would,
01:01:42if I were a manager,but if I were like 70,don't say it again.I wouldn't want to,my big gut hanging out over my belly.Dude,we'd look terrible.For me,
01:01:49I wouldn't want that.You're constantly like walking,putting your pants out.Yeah, it's like a plumber.It doesn't fit right, man.And I'm not talking about anybody specifically,but I wouldn't want that aboutwith me.
01:01:58Yes.And so,you don't have to worry about that for probably,what would you wear?I would just wear a hoodieand like,just like someAdidas pant.
01:02:07I don't wantbaseball pants either.You don't fill them out.That's not very nice.We don't like that, do we?He's being honest.Yeah, we don't like that one bit.All right.
01:02:16Okay, so real question about this season.Yeah.I feel like now we're building a little bit.We have a rough start.You feel like we're almost back to 500as of right now?Yeah, dug ourselves as a whole.The biggest thing was the offense,
01:02:32not coming together, clicking together.and everything else actually looked really good.When you look at the pitching, the rotation, the bullpen, defense, all the way around, it was clean.The hitters were a little behind, and now we've caught up and we've put it together,and we've won eight out of ten or so.But I do feel like we're heading in a really good direction.You feel like you have an open door, and do they accept the open door,and do the players come and talk to you?
01:02:54Yeah, that's one thing that's been really good.These guys, I mean, I've known a lot of them for a while, and they're comfortable coming in hereand shooting the straight.Like our biggest word is honesty.And sometimes you have to say things that people don't want to hear,but it goes both ways.And I think it works well, man.Are you younger than some of the players?
01:03:14I believe so.That's awesome.When Waino was here for sure.That's awesome.Getting to boss people around older than you.That's awesome.That's freak.That's the coolest.
01:03:22That might be the coolest part of this job.That would be cool.That would be awesome.Okay.We have three final questions.Yeah, to wrap it up.Do you ever go to the mound, full intention to pull a guy,and he convinces you otherwise, even though your mind is made up?
01:03:36It's happened before, yes.This year, it has not.With Wayno, it happened a couple times with Wayno.So what could he say?Gosh, you go out there, you know he's gassed, it's time,and there's a level of respect of like, man, let me get this last guy.These are my runs.Let me be the one to give it up.
01:04:00I got this.and you sit there and you, on your way back to the dugout, you're going,this is a bad idea.And there's times it works out and there's times it doesn't.You just kind of keep going.But there is a level of trust of looking at the eye and saying, you know what,I trust you.It's yours.
01:04:15Go get it.And it pays dividends down the road, you know?Yelling at the own.Oh, boy.Let's go.Yeah, like, what's like, do you think that you have a chance when you get up there to win that argument?I don't think you're trying to win anything.At that point, you're just doing.
01:04:30What are you trying to do?What is the win?Gosh, just letting it eat.Just you hold it in for so long and you see your guys get screwed.And listen, they're trying to do their job.And for the most part, they do a good job.But there's times where you're just sitting there and enough's enough and you go out and you just yell into their soul.We just heard he wants robot ums.
01:04:56That's what I heard.He wants robot.Have you gotten too close to where like you spit on?you're like oh crap I didn't do it okay no no man like you're not like you'resaying while you're yelling like no I'm no I have not okay um and I actually like it when theycome back at you because that's what makes if I mean we are in the entertainment businessand people you ever ask to be thrown like just you just go and they're gonna tell me out um onceyeah once this was I think last year it might have been 22 but yeah I went out and one of the
01:05:24first things was get me out of this one you just go at it for a little bit they tossed youThat's awesome.It'd be also cool to be tossed.Yes, dude.I'd get a massage immediately.I'd get back to the training.And where did you go?Where did you go, Skip?
01:05:37When we're at home, I chill right here.I turn it on the TV and just watch it from in here.And it gives you easy access in case people still need you during the game.I'm trying to think of on the road.I try to stay in Chili's?Bennings.Yeah, head to Beneggans.Two for 20 at Chili.
01:05:57Oh, dang it.Um, no, because I, you still have to do post games.So it's not like you can start drinking and, you know, slur your words.Yeah.That makes sense.Last question.It comes to analytics.I feel like we've seen like the analytic stock market go up and down.
01:06:11And then it became everything was so over-analysis.It's fun as a per to look at like exit velocity, right?Like that's fun to see and compare.Sure.But it gets to be too much sometimes.And as a manager, how much now do you feel like it's back on the, let's,Let's let human and intuition take over a little more than it was five years ago.I don't think it needs to be nearly as polarizing of a conversation as people make it.
01:06:35Like, it's information.That's all it is.And I'm going to take as much of it as possible to inform my decision, but it's not going to make my decision.Right.So I'm in favor of bringing everything you got, whether that's a coach that's seeing somethingand has a gut feel for a player or a situation or someone from upstairs coming down and saying,hey, here's what we're seeing trend-wise.So for me, it's, man, give me as much information to make my decisions possible.
01:07:02Still, you can contradict that, though, and go, I'm not feeling that.I've never had someone from our analytics department or president or anybody come downstairsand question a decision based on your gut versus the numbers, not once.And that's not everywhere.I can tell you that, yeah.And where would it be?No, I'm kidding.Listen, and, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
01:07:27Oh, all good. Hey, we really appreciate the time.Skip, thank you.Really cool to see that turnaround already the season.And now rooting for you guys.We've got to keep it going.And, yeah, let's keep it going.I like you. I think I've decided I'm going to play for you someday.All right.
01:07:38Someday, dude, you're like that.All right, thanks, coach.No, you got it was.All right, thanks to coach, Marmall.Thanks to the Cardinals.We'll come back in a minute.We'll talk to Paul Goldschmidt and we'll do our end.Everybody good?
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01:09:56Here, the Nick Dick and Poll Show, we're not afraid to make mistakes.What Kugler did that I think was so unique.He's the writer-director.Who do you think he is?I don't know.You meet the president?You think Canada has a president.You think China has a president.
01:10:14The law crusade.God, I love that thing.I use it all the time.I wrap it in a blanket and sing to it at night.It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus.It was a good one.I like that saying.It is an actual Polish saying.
01:10:30It is an actual.Yeah, better version of Play Stupid Games,win stupid prizes.Yes.Which, by the way,wasn't Taylor Swift,who said that for the first time.I actually, I thought it was.
01:10:40I got that wrong.Listen to the Nick, Dick, and Paul showon the IHeart Radio app,Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.All right, Paul Goldschmidt.What a big freaking dude.Oh, he's a monster.I didn't realize he was that big.
01:10:54He's a football player big.Yeah, he's big.He's not just like big, he's tall.Big bone.He had a big muscleed.Big dude.His hands.Excuse me?
01:11:03What?I didn't notice.I didn't notice his hands.Yeah, me neither.I was talking more like his biceps, dude.He's big dude.He's super cool to us.I think it was cool that he was a listener of the show back in the day.
01:11:12Yeah.When he was playing college ball, he would listen to the Bibone show.That was super neat.I think it helped, too.And honestly, I think I got the best compliment that I've ever gotten in this industry or whatever, you want to call it,is after the interview, he says, like, wow, now I understand, like, why you guys do what you do,you're really good at it.And I'm like, that's really cool.
01:11:30That's cool.Yeah, he said he hates doing an interview.But he enjoyed this one.Yeah, he wanted to do this one.Yeah, which was cool.I think, again, it helped that he was familiar with the show as a fan.And then, yeah, we just kind of let him have it.You know, how we do.
01:11:45Here he is.NL MVP, 2022.And by the way, he started playing some ball after we left.Yeah, he did.Homer's, smackaroos.The team started playing ball after we left.Did you guys have any influence on that?That's up to you to decide.
01:11:58Well, we left and they were like, thank God.And they got a lot better.I saw Nolan Aeronado hit a homer.I say yes.We were with him.We were with him too.I'm just saying.All right, here you go.
01:12:07Paul Goldschmidt.One of the guys on our show was the announcer for the baseball team.And so at Texas State.At Texas State.All right.And he was like, you guys are going to see Paul Goldschmidt.I actually have a small mini helmet on my desk that you had signed somewhere.I don't know how, but it's on my desk right now.
01:12:25You bought it at a charity auction.That is exactly what I got it.That is what I got it on its only way.I wear it every dayBut no, it's a mini helpAnd it came up because he was like, oh, I used to call his name outWe were like, oh, yeah, he went to Texas StateYeah
01:12:41So we thought it was cool, you'd even heard of usI know, that's trueWho knows, I might have heard you all in the radio, you know,But no of this, what I really rememberWe would have 6 a.m. workoutsAnd I remember we'd be sitting in the cars like me and my three roommatesAnd how'd you start the show?So I'm like, good morning.
01:13:00or something.Yeah, yeah.So we try to get pumped up before the coaches would tear us a new one.It's probably why you're so successful.Let's be honest.It was great.You know,because I was pumped up.
01:13:09That's probably like the thing that motivated us.And, wow.How did you end up at Texas State from, because you're from like Delaware, Northeast, right?So I was born in Delaware.My parents are both from the Northeast.And but we moved to Texas when I was about a year old.So I grew up in Texas, lived in Dallas area for a few years.And then I grew up outside of Houston and the woodlands.
01:13:27And so just, you know, got recruited by a few of the Texas schools and choseTexas State and it was awesome there to I was looking back at like the act the hard data of yourcareer I didn't realize you'd been drafted so late when you were drafted even you went to collegeright you didn't go play a minor league ball what was we had to go to I did go to the minors aftercollege but I'm saying a lot of like people some folks I know don't even go to college they go rightyeah they go that's true yeah what clicked was it physically was it mentally much like to be draftedthat late at the Dodgers drafted you Dodgers took me in fourninth round, which doesn't even exist anymore.
01:14:03Just they, like, done that round.I think we only do 20 rounds now.So what happened?Like physically, mentally, what was it for you that clicked in a way of like,oh, I'm starting to get this now?I mean, I was always a good player.I just think, you know, every team knew.Like, this guy's going to need more time if we're going to draft and we're going to
01:14:20even, you know, most of the guys that are signing are just very, very talented out of highschool and they're just, you know, we need to get this guy now.It's not even waste going to college.but I think probably half of the league are probably college guys.And so we go to college, you continue to mature, continue to learn,get a lot of playing experience.Even then I went in the eighth round,so there was probably 200-something guys drafted before me.
01:14:44So I think, again, same go to the minor leagues and just kind of see what's happeningand continue to get experience.That was probably the biggest thing.I think I just played every single day as many games as I could,continued to just practice and work as hard as I could,and just wanted to be really.ready if I got that opportunity. What was your ascension? Did you go rookie ball A, AA, AAA,AAA majors, get sent back? Like, what was that? Man, I got the, I got a fortunate. I went to rookie
01:15:10ball the first year. It played pretty well. Didn't get called up that year. So the next year, I wentto high A ball and didn't get, I had a good year, but didn't get called up again. And I'm like,okay. And then I got to AA the next year. And I was having probably the best year of my career.And my man, I guess they're just going to let me keep playing. And then all of a sudden,And I got the call, and they said you're going to big leagues.Got to skip AAA and go up with Arizona.We played San Francisco and obviously a day and a moment on there.Did you stay up?
01:15:40Did you ever go back down?No, pretty fortunate that, you know, as always, I think that's one of the hardest thingswhen you get called up.It's just like trying to get comfortable.You want to get a few hits, especially some big hits.You're not going to – most guys aren't going to get up there and just dominate.So, you know, I definitely had my ups and downs, but was able to kind of do enough toto stay up.
01:16:00One of my best friends.You actually had the biggest contract.They replaced his biggest contract.One of my really good friends is Matt Holliday.And so he got sent down.He didn't come up here, but same.He got set back down.We're going to let the leaves to get blown.
01:16:15Can we edit this out?Fire them. Fire them.You have...We need those guys.Yeah, yeah.So what are they doing?Blowing water off the field?Water or just
01:16:24dirt, sunflower seeds, whatever it is.Do they not know who you are?No, they do. That's why they take such good care of the field.Somebody said that they're the best around.Do you just say that every ground's crew?Or is like what makes them so good?No, they do good.They don't even care that the stars doing an interview.
01:16:41They definitely don't care about interviews.I think to me it's just they care about it.We're now on to name names, but there's some places where the grounds crew kind of does their job,and they leave and you don't see them for a few hours,or they just kind of like break the infield.and then you see most places where the grounds coup is always there.If something needs attention, they're kind of going overboard,like, you know, sweeping up Sunflower Siege,
01:17:05which make no effect on the ball.Do you feel like if you bench press a lot, your swing gets a little tighter?I do. Plants off ball.Yeah, of course.No, yeah, there's a point in no return where, you know,too much bench press is too much, but I think you also want strength, too.Do you ever max out?No, wait.
01:17:25The last time I did that was probably in college, and so no, I think not many guys are maxed out.Yeah, I did that like three weeks ago.Yeah, take a guess.Take a guess.500 pounds.We'll take it.Close, man.We'll move on with it.
01:17:39Real close, man.Yeah, we'll take it.A real question.So in 22 when you win the MVP, do you watch what's happening as it's going?Like, you think, like, I'm in the race.Like, do you keep up with that at all?I really try not to.It's more just like, I don't want.
01:17:55want to get distracted. You know, I don't want, oh, I'm doing good. Let's keep it going.Or if that adds pressure, oh, I'm struggling. Now I need to step it up. So for me, it's justreally staying in the moment. But that year was unique just because I went to the All-Star gameand then going into that last month, you know, you get asked a lot of questions by the media.And I think that's where I just kind of find everything out. And so I knew the last month that,you know, me and a few other guys, we had a chance once you did that. So I didn't want to put toomuch pressure on myself and I actually didn't have a good last month so maybe maybe that was thereason but ended up good enough and it was able to win that award what's a slump for you how many
01:18:33a bats without getting a clean hit any hits a clean hit I mean I'll take any hit I can get butI mean you start going you know you go a whole series just three or four games I mean you're thinkingman that was like over 12 over 13 over 12 I wouldn't call it a slump maybe double that maybeyou get in the 20s, you're like, okay, this is got to usually be some bad luck once you getto 15, 20. I mean, you could swinging bun or you can find a hole out there somewhere, but when youstart to get it there, and I think a couple weeks ago, I had like 30. That might have been,if it wasn't my longest, it felt like the longest. What do you do to not think about it or what do youdo to break it? Break it, you just keep waiting and, and again, try not to try not to press.
01:19:16And for me, it's a little bit, maybe just have some fun with it. But I think,Seriously, just trying to stay in the moment.I mean, each day is a new day and try to just keep that mindset.And, you know, we've been training for that.So same thing when you're going well, you don't want to show up and just kind of goof off for a few hours and not get ready for the game.So try to just find that sweet spot of focus, but still having fun.Goldie, when you hit one out, do you know as soon as you make contact with the bat that it's gone?I'd say about 98% of the time, yeah, there's the 2% where you're like, oh, that's going to be close.
01:19:50and whether it's the wind or just the way you hit itand then you're just kind of watching.But yeah, 95, 98% of time you're like, you know it's gone,which even watching other guys, they hit it.And I'm like, I don't know when they start celebratingand goes over by like two feet.I'm like, man, how'd you know that?Every once in a while you get caught.
01:20:10And then that's why you got to make sure you're runningand don't get embarrassed out there and throw it at least get a double.But I don't know.Maybe just because we've done it.I don't know why, but it's just like, you know, like,even a BP, that's gone.Although the worst feeling is when you think you get it,and then they catch it.
01:20:24And you're like, oh, man, that's something's off todayor something like that.The NBA working a lot of the players with load management, right?A lot of games, not as many as baseball,but, you know, they're playing 90 games.They run a lot more than us.They do run a lot more than you,but you play a lot more.
01:20:40How do you feel about load management in Major League Baseballto keep players healthy or longer?Well, I mean, that's one strategy.I think for me, when I came up,you had to play every day. If you didn't play every day, you know, you weren't going to have a job, honestly.So, you know, I kind of give our guys a hard time if they're taking, I mean, the play does,it's not really the player's choice, you know, it comes from the management or the coaches or whatever.And I understand that there's times to take days off. But I think just the whole theory on that has changed a lot.
01:21:07I mean, what NBA, NFL, MLB is like you, you played until you got hurt or until you couldn't play anymore.And so that was kind of the way I was brought up. So it's hard to change my mindset on that.I think there's a mental part of that, too, that's really good.It's like, man, maybe I'm not 100.I mean, you're never really at 100%.But maybe this would be a good day to take off.But somehow you go out there and it's, you know,it's almost like you're just that mental toughness,
01:21:31that physical toughness to push through it.And I think that can pay dividends in the long run.But there's also times when, you know, you got to take days off.All right.Final five, Eddie, your question.Can you hear people when you're on debt?Like, and I don't want to give them fuel.Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:21:46But I remember I went to a Mets game like a long time ago.and Mike Piazza had to just dyed his hair like white, like blonde,and somebody was like, Q-Tip, Q-Tip!And 100% he heard him, but Mike never turned around.Like, can you hear him one?And how do you deal with that crap?Yeah, yeah, you can hear him.And, you know, for me, it's like just that perspective.
01:22:06I think there's times where maybe you can, you know, get annoyed or whatever.Usually when you're struggling and then, you know, you're going good.You got two hits and a homer.Like, you say whatever you want.I'm about to go get my third hit right here.But I kind of just changed my mindset of, like,just kind of enjoying it and just taking it.I mean, it doesn't happen.
01:22:22At home, obviously, they're cheering for you most of the time.And so you go on the road, you know those tougher environments.And I'm just like, it's fun.And also, man, I grew up going to a lot of ball games.And I yelled at a lot of guys.And I was an amateur.So I always talk, I mean, this is payback now.And so when it happens, I'm looking back at my 16-year-old self
01:22:38as I was in the stands talking trash, like, all right, you deserve this right now.And then that kind of just makes me smile and just try to take it in.All right, four left.Who did you play with or again?when you first came up where you're like, that's freaking cool.I'm on the field with this person.Well, my favorite player was Lance Berkman growing up in Houston.So when he got to first base and he knew who I was, that was pretty cool.
01:23:00But, I mean, then there's Derek Jeter at the All-Star game.I mean, that was like everyone's favorite player.I think those two guys kind of stick out.And a lot of times my rookie year was like, don't think about who's on the mound, you know,because I've been competing against this guy.But I've been watching a lot of the guys for 10 plus years and you knew him.Maybe you're rooting for him.or you just know how good they were.
01:23:20And it was almost like this mental mind trick to just be like, all right,he's just another guy or, you know, compare him to someone else to try to just, you know,stay competitive.Is it cool to be at the mall or someplace and see, like, someone wearing your jersey?And do you even go up to them?Sometimes?No, I usually, I won't go up to them.But, no, it is cool.
01:23:39And I think, especially when it first happens when you're young.And now even now, and you just see the kids especially, because I still picture myself as a kid.And, you know, I watched baseball in all sports.every night and just wanted to be like those guys. So I think when I see those kids and, you know,used to be autographed now. I'd say, can I take a selfie with you or can I take a picture? But, you know,you walk away like, man, that was really cool because I could, you know, see myself in their in their shoes.All right. Final two questions. You play a lot of baseball. You play a lot of baseball here.But where is your, it's going to be difficult question possibly. Where do you like to play that's not here?
01:24:13I mean, wherever I play well. What, but you're going, what, what stadium do you like?aesthetically or you hit well in.I haven't played well there, but I do like when we go to Philly.You talk about fans talking trash.There's good as anyone.And so I kind of try to just enjoy that energy that those stadiums bring.And with them kind of, you know, being in the World Series a couple years ago and be so good,that places out a lot of energy.
01:24:37It's a good place to hit.You know, no one wants to go to the stadium where there's not as many fans.And then also as a hitter where the outfield's huge, you know, if you got, you know,the ball, where the ball flies or the pitch.You know, probably hate going to, like, the coolest field where the ball just flies out.Yeah.Yeah.So, I mean, anytime we can kind of feel that adrenaline, feel the crowd, feel the big game, whatever it is, you know, that's fun.
01:25:01Because with 162 games, we're not feeling that every day.There are some games as much as we don't want to admit it that can just kind of feel just kind of a little bit more boring.And so when we can get that adrenaline for whatever reason, whether it's the fans, the stadium,sometimes it can be the other team or something that's happened.It's always fun that way.All right, last question. The culture in sports, NFL, especially NBA, you're seeing it.I don't know if it happens as much in baseball, but like after a game where players will trade Jersey,does that ever happen with you guys?
01:25:28I saw it the last couple years, but not as much, right?No, not as much.And again, like in those, I don't know why, but I guess it's probably tradition.In those sports, the players are kind of on the field at the end and they're kind of shaking hands.Where in baseball, we just shake hands with their own team.So you don't really have that much interaction, especially once the game's over.but when we had Albert Pooleuos and Ida here, Molina,the guys were coming across,
01:25:50hey, can we trade jerseys or after the game?So you get the greats like that,you know, guys will go out of their wayto try to get something from them.Well, this is what I have.This is my final suggestion on this question.So because of that culture,you probably don't know this.
01:26:04So I was the youngest member ever in the Radio Hall of Fame.You'll be in the Hall of Fame one day, for sure.I'm going to trade you in my microphone.Look at this.This is yours.You get to have this.All right.But what do you give that?
01:26:15me back the chores. I mean, I guess I got to go with a jersey, right? No, no, it's what,you don't have to do anything. So what you're going to want is a baseball bat, because that'sthe best collectible. We also debated what the best collectible was. For me, it's baseball bat forsure. And I get, and that's what I have from guys on other teams that I like. And so if you go,go to my house, I got, I got a bunch of them on display. It's cool because they're all different.I don't know if all the microphones are the same, but, you know, in jerseys again, they're cool,but they're all the same.They're all mostly the same size
01:26:47for bat.You know, the grips are different.I don't know if most people know.The wood bats can be completely customized.Way, shape.There's limitations, but, so you go pick upAlbert Pouls's bat.That guy was like a Greek god,
01:27:00so he's got a heavy bat that he can swing somehowfaster than anyone.You might get another guy.He's got, you know, a skinnyer bat or a lighter bat.And so to me, it's cool when people come over the houseand they want to see all the players different bats.What about the helmet though, Paul?I mean, that's just the size of your head.
01:27:14So that's, uh, there's not, they're all the same shape, but yeah.We debated.Okay, I'm going to sign this Hall of Fame microphone.I'm going to pass this to you.This is the first.I've never done this before.All right.Yeah.
01:27:25And so we know you're going to value and treasure this.I'm going to definitely, it'll be displayed.It'll be, it'll be with all my other memory in the garbage.Um, and then we'll just see what at some point later today.What comes up?Yeah.What comes back?I'm going to sign this.
01:27:38Here you go.Here we have a silver one.Oh, let's go.do we need there you go read thank you um seriously though which which one of y'all is from st louis orst louis fan neither i mean i thought one of y'all dude what's crazy is i was telling him earlier that my dadhe wanted a business trip when i was like eight or nine years old and brought me back to st louis hatand like i mean automatically at that age you're like i love the cardinals you know so like i don'thave a team i'm from texas too yeah the astros were our team yeah for sure i mean i love the cardinals
01:28:08dude yeah that's cool can't tell you the truth got been very quiet about the truth you're a cup's fanmassive. That's why you're here tonight? No. To watch it. Watch this beat your team. No.I have not said that. I'm being respectful and I even have on a red STL hat. I know that'simpressive. Notice that like there's not a cardinal on it but it's me trying. I'm trying.Yeah, we're in St. Louis. That's fair. Yeah, you're halfway there. We're good. I'm trying.And I did not admit that to anybody and I'm being, but yeah, yeah, I grew up a massive Cubs fan.I still have respect for that. You got to cheer for your team. You got to be loyal to your team.Are you a Cowboys fan?
01:28:42No, I'm not a Cowboys fan.All right.Cowboys, man.Are you a Texans fan?I like the Texans.I've just been gone from Texas for so long.It's just hard.My brothers and my dad, they go and they root for the Texas.
01:29:00They still live in Houston.I don't know.I don't really have an NFL team, right?I mean, I hate to say it, but it's fantasy football now.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I hate that because I love rooting for teams, but I just...Did you play high school football?I played in seventh and eighth grade, but I didn't play in high school.
01:29:15Were you bigger than everybody?By the end of high school, but not when I started.I mean, I think that's what kind of, I was kind of, hey, go play wide receiver,and you're kind of short and quick, but I loved baseball, and I didn't choose baseballbecause I thought I could make a career of it.I just, I liked it, and I was getting pounded by a lot bigger guys, and in the state ofTexas football is no jokes, so here we go.All right, here we go.
01:29:38Sharpie.Thank you.all right here we go this is a hall of fame i'm never giving away a microphone beforeoh you got to write h of on it to of course my hero huh i'll get this to anthony rizzo for you i've beeni'll get it to him and so all the time i've ever done this he still there you go paul go cardshey go cards that's awesome yes go cards go cards let's go let's go all right and we really appreciatethe time do this is awesome throw that away as soon as we leave all right there no chanceIt is.
01:30:13Thanks, Paul.All right, thanks to Paul, or as Eddie calls him, Goldie.Goldie.Thank you.And check out our full Too Much Access episode where we talk to them, obviously,and we play ball on the field.And Eddie breaks his foot.And I want everyone to know, like, look, I had broken my foot early on.
01:30:27So when you see me miss all those fly balls, my foot was broken.I hear you and I completely agree that your foot was broken.But that foot doesn't...When you're trying to run and get to a ball man...Even the ones you weren't running to, the form.That I know.The wind was blowing.Wind was blowing.
01:30:43And if people could just see that wind blowing in St. Louis that day, that ball was moving left.Was your adrenaline just pumping or what?Yeah, dude.I mean, there was no one in the stands, but all you see are seats.You're in the stadium.And it's just, I mean, it's like high tense moment.And that ball's coming.And it's coming fast.
01:31:02And it's moving left.It's moving right.And then you're going to put your face right under it.I'm like, no, I'm not doing that.Well, no, but that's how you catch a ball.Go watch your episode, Mr. Bobby Bones on Instagram.or at Too Much Access Bobby Bones.And we will come back after this quick break.
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01:33:32He's the writer-director.Who do you think he is?I don't know.You mean the like the president?You think Canada has a president.You think China has a president?You think China has a president?those walk
01:33:43rosette.God, I love that thing.I use it all the time.I wrap it in a blanketand sing to it at night.It's like the old Polish saying,not my monkeys, not my circus.Yep.
01:33:56It was a good one.I like that saying.It is an actual Polish saying.Yeah.It is an actual Polish saying.Better version of Play Stupid GamesWin Stupid Prizes.Yes.
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01:34:14wherever you get your podcasts.Okay, so a couple things, one, Jake Paul and Mike Tyson that has been moved in November15th.So they are going to still have the fight.And it wasn't that Mike Tyson was so, so, so sick.He couldn't fight.He got it all sort of couldn't train.So like he had all sort of flare up when they pulled him off.
01:34:33He was in a wheelchair off the plane.But you wanted a wheelchair for your foot, so it's like, eh.That's true at the grocery store.But so they still expect the fight to happen.But it wouldn't have been fair because Tyson could.couldn't train. Hey, what's up with Connor McGregor?Yeah, what I sawa post that said, that
01:34:50said find out why he canceledthe press conference and I was like,oh, click on the link and it was some subscription. I'm like,I'm not doing this.I saw a promo for it last night on the game, duringthe game. The fight is still on.Yeah. The fight is still on.For June
01:35:0628th, I believe.Or 29. That's Saturday. I thought it might be canceled.I thought McGregor might have been injured, injured himself in trainingor something.I don't know.That's all Chandler, like, posting stuff on his Instagram.Dude, Chandler looks strong.Motivational quotes and crap.
01:35:18He looks strong.He looks like he's so ready to go.I mean, we're all rooting for Chandler, right?We are, 100%.And I love, I love McGregor.I do, but I feel like McGregor's that, uh, that's just kind of been chilling,making movies and kind of just loving the...He was, like, at a club.
01:35:32You get to see the clip of him at a club like a week ago?Uh-uh.Yeah. Was his wife?Yeah, they were, like, going on pretty hard as his wife.What do you mean?What is they grinding?They were, they were having, they were, I don't know, I thought maybe he was drunk or on something.They're at a club going hard
01:35:44Yeah, go on.See, and then all you see Chandler,this dude's at the gym.He's not at the club.I can't say what it's forand two final things will be done.I can't say what it's for.You guys know,
01:35:55but they won't let me say it yet,but I am playing in somethingand they've asked me for a walkout song.Oh.So be thinking about thatfor the next episode.Okay.A walkout song.
01:36:08Because I, it...Yeah, something that represents you.And I'm not sure if I'm,what I'm doing, because you know, right?I do know, right?You know, right?I'm going to say anything.I think so.
01:36:18I'm not sure if it's on TV or not.It might be streamed on something.Usually.I've seen it on TV.Yeah.You have?Yeah.Really?
01:36:27Yeah.Yeah, yeah.I did not know that for sure.We can talk about that afterward.But think about that.I need to come out to a walkout song.Don't spend a whole bunch of time on it.But we'll do that.
01:36:35Okay.And then I have, let's do our final thoughts.And then I'll wrap it up.You have your final thoughts?Eddie. Yeah.He's searching for a final thought right now.No, no, no, I have it. I have it. Do you want to read that status sent you?Oh, Eddie sent me a DAC and Justin Jefferson.
01:36:52I'm the shocked that you didn't want to talk about in the episode.Oh, CD and Jefferson. Oh, yeah, yeah. Basically, it's a day.What do you mean you threw it away?I had a bunch of paper here, and it's basically...It's a comparison of Justin Jefferson and CD Lamb. You want to read it? It's right here.But I think the quarterback...Sure, but it's kind of saved on their favorites.Everything's not the same. So, okay. Seasons, four, four.
01:37:12What do you mean everything's not the same?Obviously, they're playing different teams, different stadiums.And they're different quarterbacks.Different quarterbacks.Different goals as a team.Great.All pros.Of the four, Justin Jefferson has one more.
01:37:24So what are the numbers?But hold on.So I would say Justin Jefferson has 33% more all pros than CD Lamb.That's a pretty significant number.What's an all pro?Pro Bowl is three.Easy to get to the Pro Bowl.I almost got voted to the Pro Bowl last week.
01:37:35That's true.That is true.It's so stupid.Catches are basically the same.Stop with the basis.the same. There are three catches apart.It's not even 1%. And who's on top?CDLAM has 395. Justin
01:37:48Justin is 3992.Exactly. No, but here's my point.Point CD.No, with three less catches, Justin Jefferson has over 700 more yards.But you don't understand those situations. You don't know. You don't know. You don't know if they were Hail Marys.You know what?They were probably down.Justin Jefferson sucks and C.D. Lamb's the best.
01:38:05How many touchdowns? You see that?Justin Jefferson 31 touchdowns in four seasons.But I will say, Eddie. I'm sorry. Justin Jefferson.missed almost half the season last year.Well, that's on him.That's on him.Hey, what do you say?That's showbiz, baby.
01:38:18That's fair.So you're holding tight with it.Yeah, dude, I'll send that to you.And they should pay him a whole bunch.Because if they do, you know, they can't sign other players.Yeah, I didn't say that.It's a cap.But whenever you talk about the top receivers, I want you to put some respect to CD of his name.
01:38:32I do say that he's probably fourth.Bones!You put Justin Jefferson at either one or two.Yes.You need to put CD in there.Either two?No, four.put him at four.
01:38:43You're crazy.Because one and one A, to me, is Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, and Tyree Kill istwo, but that would be three.But Tyree Kill is three, two.And Cid Lamb at four.I feel like this is a pretty good spot to be.I'm going to say, nowadays, the big receiver, top five, that's pretty dang good.Yeah, man, congratulations on the moral victory.
01:39:01I mean, it's a top five receiver.Hey, Jason Tate, I'm like number seven overall in the NBA.He's going to offend all of us today.Come on, come on.That means Porzing is the top three.Not after one game there.Uh, Kevin, what you got?Yeah, I got some personal news, actually.
01:39:15He's pregnant.Oh, yes.What do you have?I don't know the news.I broke some news to Eddie not too long ago.That's messed up.And apparently he got mad at me because I didn't tell him myself he had to find out from somebody else.What's the news?
01:39:27The news is I am in a relationship.Have we already done this once?No, you haven't.Did you hear that?But the last time he had a girlfriend when he did that, right?Did we do this last time he had a girlfriend?I think you might have just asked me about it.I don't know.
01:39:38I don't think so, bones.Oh, okay.I don't know.It's not that shocking because,one, you're a pretty good dude, normal dude, and you already had a girlfriend in one point.So I guess I'm not that shocked.This is a serious one, though.Serious girlfriend.
01:39:49It's the same girl.What?As before?Yeah.I'm back with the same girl.Wait.That's the twist on it.That's a twist on it.
01:39:57Okay, now we've twisted.Yes.Okay.So that's a twist on it.You just hit this with I see dead people and I'm like, wow.Six cents.And I'm back with her and things could not be any better.And yeah, like I just said, it's a very serious one.
01:40:09How'd you guys get back together?It was me.Took about a year off.We didn't even talk for a year.I did a lot of work on myself.Therapy, actually, is probably the biggest thing I could put that to.I did a lot of work on myself.It wasn't with Eddie, right?
01:40:22No, no.Yeah, we would meet once a week.So a completely different person, much more intentional now with my feelings and with her,and things can not be.That's good, man.That's awesome.Yeah.I was not expecting this.
01:40:32It was the same girl, though.Yeah, that's pretty awesome.I mean, I liked her.She used to come to our basketball games when Kevin was an assistant coach for my 10-year-old son.I'm surprised she took you back.I am, too.Thank God.Mostly when we're dudes and we do dumb.
01:40:44Yes.It's hard to like, usually somebody else scoops them up.Yeah, that's what I was saying.That she didn't have someone else.That's what Eddie said.He's like, she wasn't with anybody.I was like, no.And he's like, wow, you got lucky.
01:40:53I know, dude.I know.So, very happy.Very fortunate.Okay.Happy for you, man.Thank you.So here's the decision I had to make.
01:41:03Oh, yeah.This is the invitation to, after RSP, by 5 o'clock today.It's the Tops transcendent party invitation.I bought it online.What day is that?It's onit's in BaltimoreUm
01:41:21Oh, today's in AugustThe date's in August.August?Yeah.Pretty open in August.So,I don't even have to look at my calendar.I'm open.
01:41:29The deal is,and it's tough.It's a tough decision.Yeah, I bet it was.But I'm pretty clear in August.Here's the deal.Uh-oh.Eddie, I'm going to offer it to you.
01:41:38What?Yeah.Hold on.Yes, baby.Hold on.But you don't, you get to go.I don't know who the,Celebrity is going to be this there. I don't even know what it is, but any of the cards that they give away, I'm keeping.
01:41:49Just give me one. Okay. I'll tell you what. I'll give you a few. Okay. But overall, because I had to pay$2,000. I forget how much I had to pay for this. 25. Maybe 28. Something like that.Yeah, that's awesome. That's how much, because they usually went for $5,000, and I knew I got it lastminute because the person probably freaking out he wouldn't be able to sell it.That's the invitation right there. So I got an email. It's a golden ticket. So, yeah, it's like Willie.I have mine.It's got a seal with a baseball on it and everything.So here's the date.
01:42:21Yeah, I'm making sure I'm open here.I see dots.It's,ooh, I got a dental cleaning on the 23rd.I got to find the day.All right.It's not a 20th.I just put the dentist.
01:42:33I'm clear.It's the 12.Okay.12.No dot on the 12.Dude, I'm open.What time are we leaving?I'm going to put this in right now.
01:42:44This is amazing.So we'll go to Baltimore.We may all go to Baltimore.Baltimore. We may go to do the podcast up there too. I don't know. I'm seeing if we can get any sort of access anyway.Sneak these guys in? They can't get into this. Well, why not?Because this, hey dude. No, they can dress up like chefs or like some kind of security. Oh, backdoor.Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like wedding crashers. I can do that. No problem.Okay, so I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, but once our SVP, you can't not go.
01:43:07Yeah, yeah, well, let me find out with the boss. I'm sure I'm good. But I have to know in like the next hour.Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going home right after this. Okay. So I'll keep this.August 12th.RSDP you.It says RSDP about 5 p.m. Eastern.And you're not going to get pissed if I...So that's 4 p.m. Central.What?
01:43:23You're not going to get pissed if I like see like Wade.They bring Wade Boggs and me and Wade just hang out all night.Nah, I won't be pissed.All right.Okay.Because Wade's my dude.What?Wade's my dude.
01:43:36Okay.Who cares?All right.Next up.So I saw something and I got Mike a gift, much like I got Kevin a gift with the RobertParish jersey card.So I was on, I go on this auction.site. It's called a heritage auction.
01:43:49A lot of times it's like crazy stuff.Like fancy stuff I don't even get involved in. I bought a few cards.Yeah, I bought likePee We Reese 1941.Whoa. Stuff like that.They have really cool stuff. That's cool. So I got onlinethey were doing an auctionfor this. What? Your videos.
01:44:09They were doing an auctionofclassiccartoon movies. And theauctions were, because back in the day when they used toanimate, they would just draw it hundredsof times and like basically flipbook it.Yeah. So what I have here... You don't do that anymore?
01:44:26Nah. Computers now, man.What I have here for Mike,it's from1940and the movie Pinocchio,this is Strombole, one of theanimation drawingsfrom 1940.
01:44:42Holy crap, that is amazing, Mike.That's sweet. Like all the information is up on theside here, but it's like from1940 and it's got like it was like a production 2003 scene eight whatever that is but that isstromboli from pinocchio in one of the many animation drawings they did that is amazing you know howmuch i love animation yeah and this is like old school awesome i thought yeah like an animation cellhas been my dream of like owning something like that so there you go i kept it it's not bentit's in the thing do whatever you want with it or we can flip a coin 50 50 50
01:45:19Hey, Mike, what you need to do is...Hand that over to Mike.You need to find...Don't wrinkle.I'm not.I'm not.You're grabbing it all aggressive.I'm not.
01:45:26You get a color on it.Hey, what you need to find, Mike, is that scene, that frame in the movie.That's amazing.There you go, man.That's cool.Somebody really drew that.So now everybody's got a gift.You got a gift?
01:45:40I'm going to a party.You know who got screwed, Kevin?He got like a...Robert Parrish.$15-20 card.And Mike's got a Pinocchio in 1940.And Eddie's got a...Going to a party.
01:45:49It's all right. I got plenty of gifts in life. I keep an eye out. He's got a girlfriend.Yeah, that's true. All right, blow that whistle. We're out here. See you guys. Where's it up? There it is.Hey, I'm Dr. Maya Shunker, a cognitive scientist and hosts of the podcast, a slight change of plans,a show about who we are and who we become when life makes other plans. I wish that I hadn't resistedfor so long the need to change. We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us like.You can have opinions. You can have like a strong stance. And then there's your body having its own program.Listen to a slight change of plans on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.I'm Daniel Alarcon, and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am.
01:46:48I wouldn't go that far. But I'm John Green.Co-hosted the podcast The Away End with my old friend Daniel.On our podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of...of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important.Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.On a recent episode of the podcast Money and Wealth with John Hobriant, I sit down with Tiffany the budgetista Aliche to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money.What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here?
01:47:31We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts.Too many of us were never, ever taught.If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more.Listen to Money and Wealth with John Hope Bryant from the Black Effect Network on the I'd Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.Get your podcast.This is an IHeart podcast.Guaranteed human.
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