The Bobby Bones Show - 25W: Country Music Superstar George Birge in Studio + NFL Network Insider Tom Pelissero

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

After Eddie questioned country music superstar George Birge's status in the industry on the podcast last week, George came into the studio to confront him and talk about the pickleball rankings. Plus, NFL Network insider, Tom Pelissero joined Bobby to discuss why the Colts went back to Anthony Richardson, if Bill Belichick will be the next Cowboys coach and more!    Tom Pelissero X: @TomPelissero George Birge Instagram: @GeorgeBirge   Download the DraftKings Sportsbook App today: https://dkng.co/bobbysports   If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, crisis counseling and referral services can be accessed by calling 1-800-GAMBLER (1-800-426-2537) (IL/IN/MI/NJ/PA/WV/WY), 1-800-NEXT STEP (AZ), 1-800-522-4700 (CO/NH), 888-789-7777/visit http://ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-BETS OFF (IA), 1-877-770-STOP (7867) (LA), 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY), visit OPGR.org (OR), call/text TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN), or 1-888-532-3500 (VA).   21+ (18+ WY). Physically present in AZ/CO/CT/IL/IN/IA/LA/MI/NJ/ NY/PA/TN/VA/WV/WY only. N/A in NH/OR/ON. New customers only. Valid 1 per new customer. Min. $5 deposit. Min $5 wager. $200 issued as eight (8) $25 free bets. Ends 9/19/22. See http://draftkings.com/sportsbook for details.     Follow the Show: @BobbyBonesSports   Follow the Crew: @MrBobbyBones @ProducerEddie @KickoffKevin @MikeDeestro @ReidYarberrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, welcome. We have a special whistler today. It is George Burge. I call him country superstar George Burge, but Eddie's a hater. That's funny. Eddie's a hater. You can blow the whistle so we can start, Eddie?

Okay, here we go. So I text George this morning, and since George is a superstar, he's in and out all the time. Yes. And I was like, are you in town today? He said, yes, said, come up and do whistles with this because we've got some stuff to talk about. And so he's here.

He lives a superstar alive. Although, George, some people take shots when you're not here, when you heard the clip of Eddie, you go, George is not a superstar. How'd you feel? Man, it honestly empowered me a little bit.

You know, they say, you don't know that you've made it until you have haters. And I got my first hater, man. Stop. Stop.

It was such a visceral reaction to it. It wasn't that Eddie had planned or like, I'm really going to get a little jab out of my friend George. No, I thought you were joking. Like, when you did the whole announcement, I'm like, oh,

that's funny superstar. That's all I said. See, like, in his heart. That actually hurt a little bit. He's trying to make it better, but it's getting worse, actually. I know George doesn't believe that he's a superstar. But that's not the point.

The point is that you were so against the idea of anybody thinking he was. And I feel like George is on the precipice of being a country superstar. Oh, totally. He already is. He's got one number one. Where's your other song now? I think we are, we should be seven this week. At seven this week.

That's a superstar. That's awesome, man. That's awesome, George. You know you're my boy, Ed. And you were, and you're my boy. And that's why I was a surprise. You know what, too, like, I've known George for so long. Like, we, we're not, like, I don't think George as a superstar, I don't, and this is all due

respect, George. Oh, you hate when someone says, all due respect. Because whatever's coming next, it ain't good. Just rip off the Band-Aid, buddy. Even when you do, like, just become a massive superstar, I'm still going to think, like, oh, this is me and George playing golf together. And I want that to be that way forever, but I still have your picture taped on my back. You want to get rid of it.

A little motivation every morning. But also, this is what I would counter that with. At one point, Eddie was like, hey, I don't call George. I feel like he's busy all the time now that he's like a star. That's what he said. And I goes, I was like, I'll FaceTime anytime. Do we FaceTime immediately?

And who was he with? Well, he was riding with Tyler Hubbard. Superstar stuff. That's cool. That's my point. You're talking on both sides of your mouth right now. I like that. I needed a little bit of that.

We're back, Eddie. We're good again. Good, man. I was a little ashamed that he said that. And you know what? I chose to leave it in. And I thought you were joking. I was like, that's funny, dude.

You know who loved it? It was my wife. She was like, yeah. She was like, tell him, Eddie. Well, we are here today. You got to keep him humble, bone. No, not George. He's already humble.

He's humble. You got to push him up and be like, this is who you are. George is going to hang out with us for the next half hour. So a couple things. This will be the last picklewall thing until way later.

But my wife and myself played Eddie and Reed like four times and doubles. we killed them every time like 7-1 7-2-7-1 like it wasn't even close and who do you think was was bringing the Eddie and Reed team down

like if you had to pick a weak link I mean this is we don't do that right but if you had to he's taking shots already I just saw something on your sweatshirt there that's my goldfish he's got no dog in him he's got all goldfish because he's last in the league so my wife and I read what were you going to say buddy I'm just saying I I realize

I am not as good in doubles as I am in singles. But you were like last or next to last in singles until Eddie came along. I know. You feel like you're getting better? Yeah, I feel like I've gotten a lot better. But I still like, I still struggling doubles a little bit. I think I could diagnose Reed's doubles right here out of the get. He's too polite.

Oh, we say that every week. He's a monster. But he'll be like, oh, that's your shot. He wants you to feel included when he could potentially take over the game by himself. So much so we'll be like, I got it. And then if I'm just getting there behind him, he'll go like, oh, I'll Even though I said I got it, I was going to let you have it. He won't slam the ball on you.

And if he accidentally does, he says, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to see that. I hit reading the body like 11 times. I came back with it, though. Yeah, so I would say that that's probably Reed's overall problem in athletics is that he's way too nice. We actually talked about this that will be on a bobbycast tomorrow. My wife and I in Reed, we're talking about Reed. But anyway, we killed it. At one point, George, my favorite moment of the night, my wife's a great athlete, but she doesn't play.

pickleball hardly ever but she's a great athlete so she can move well read it's a good shot back over i had a excellent winner and she goes good shot and i'm like oh my wife's compliment this is nice she goes good shot read and i'm like hey i hit the good shot she goes we i don't need to compliment you they suck oh i have to ask are you guys that couple that like gives each other kiss after a good shot or like no i didn't see that no we're not i had a couple the other day that we're like spanking each other with a pickleball paddle after good shots. It was one of those where it's like

not new enough to do that. Well, me and Reed, I think Reed and I did that a couple of times. I didn't even use a paddle. My communication with my wife, I've had to change because we'd play and she's an athlete and so it would just be like

if me and you were on the same team, let's go, good job, suck it up, get up, whatever. She doesn't respond to that. She just likes, regardless, hey, be positive. Yeah. So it's no, we don't flirt, but she also, like it's pretty good.

She's an athlete across a board. Yes, I just am sure to say, hey, great shot, good hustle. I keep it very positive. When I normally, I don't keep it negative, but I just say how I feel. But I've changed that communication because that's how she likes to be communicated to. Yeah. I want to let you know that I, too, would like to hear that from you when we play devils because I have not seen that. But we hate ourselves.

That's exactly right. Because George and I played together. We've never lost together, by the way. We'll take on all comers. But it's not even a bad. George would be like, I hate myself. I suck so bad. He really does it.

I'm like, okay, man, it's a warm-up ball. We'll get them. We'll get them, buddy. Nobody's even on the court. You're by yourself. Let me ask you, too, a question, Bobby and George. So do you guys... Number one and number two on the league.

Yes, we'll take the... Please. This is from the Goldfish. Continue. It's going on there. Goalfish inquirer. Guys' question here. What, like, do you guys ever play for fun?

Like, where you just have fun? At what? Play what for fun? Anything. Anything. Any kind of game. Do you know what's the most fun? Winning. Yeah, good point, George.

Right, right, but do you ever just play for fun? I don't know Probably If there's like a child If there's like a child Oh Right Yeah

A young child I will play because I feel like I need to do something To keep them busy Okay I get out Even with my kids I'm not gonna like

hurt them But they're gonna know Who the best is Like if we're playing If we're shooting hoops In the driveway with my kids Or if we're playing golf or whatever Like

I'm not gonna let them think They can beat dad They need to know You know That if they're gonna beat dad They gotta earn it Yeah So we're gonna

your kids. George's kids. Exactly. And you can't let us win. Yes. I coached Reed to a victory over me. He coached me.

He beat him? He did. But it was coaching. But it didn't matter. I just, I just yell at Reed where to hit it and what he's doing wrong

as the points of going. And he did it and he was great. He was really good. And I'm like, move your feet. Hit it to the left. Go right. And he would do it every time his handout coordination is so good.

But sometimes he just gets sloppy. And sloppy becomes lazy. Buttoned up Reed could be dangerous. He got a seven-foot wingspan Yeah There, yeah Monster But even a coached win

Is a win That's true I'll take it Of course And then we played it Uncoached I whooped his butt But still Be me 7-4

Yeah But a couple of those points though I think we know Okay hold on then So does Reed move up the rankings Is he beat number one I mean he should That sounds more like

An exhibition game Yeah I think you may take A little tick up I'll take a tick up I think you take a little tick up I think you have a lot of potential I want to earn it

But you did earn it I didn't hit a single ball for you That's fair All I was doing was like hit it over here. Now do this, do that. And you did it. It just shows you have the hand-eye coordination. Yeah.

And you, when you don't play sloppy, and you actually care, because he'll just serve and like, fault. You know, dude, just focus. Eddie does that crap too. What do I do? Just serve and hit it out.

Yeah, but I'm focusing. I just can't hit the ball. See, is a goal. Reed has a good serve, though. Yeah, Ray-Ree is a really good serve. Yeah. Okay, Pickleball talk over. Thank goodness.

George, did you happen to see Caitlin Clark at the LP, or the Pro M playing. Did you happen to see her hit into the crowd? I did. I did. You hear the guy go like, oh, cry. So I think she's generally a good golfer. Her swing is unbelievable. And I've seen a bunch of other shots from her that are incredible.

So it just shows, you know, it is, golf is a nerve-wracking game, especially when you have a bunch of people watching you, and when you're trying to swing a club 100 miles an hour and hit it on something the size of a square inch, you know, sometimes you mess up a little bit. She was playing the Annika Pro M on Wednesday. She was paired with Nellie Corda. She's the one who smokes cigarettes in the course, right?

No, not Nelly. Oh, that's not her? Charlie Hole. That's who it is. I know it was like a dude, like a one word dude name. Yeah, Nelly Chalka. Jason Ricard, I don't know who that is, and Dan Towers. But they're there, and so she's up and there's a gallery.

Would we call it a gallery at the T-Bow? Yeah. And so she hits, and luckily it doesn't hit me in the face. It goes right over the people. It missed by like inches. I have hit someone in the face at a celebrity tournament before. And George is the best, I think George is the best golfer. In all the country music.

I know there are pros who live here, so I can't say all in Nashville. But I think George is the best golfer in all the country music. He played golf in college. So I'm sure you have many stories. We're just out of sheer a numbers game. But I played and I was doing a par three at Pebble Beach. And it's a celebrity tournament.

And the girl was, and I had a pretty good shot, but she was just standing on the edge of the green. She did not see it, hit her right in the face. I don't see it hit her in the face. All I see is it roll onto the green. it hit her face and ricochet perfectly and rolled right toward the hole.

It ended up being a great shot. I took off running, giving people fives. I thought it hit the greatest shot in the history. Because it did look like it hit a tree branch or something. It was right by the hole, though. Yeah, it was just right off the green. Right off the edge. But it, yeah, I just thought, yeah,

like it hit like a little nick of something and roll. And so I'm just running, giving people five, stole my clubs. And here comes a girl with the big ice pack on her face. And she's like, I didn't look up. And it hit her right in the face. And that was embarrassing. Ever hit anybody with the ball?

I have. And I also am a strong opinion This is probably not a popular opinion But I do think that it helps the pros a little bit You've got a built-in backboard That we as amateurs without galleries When we go play we don't have But in the pros you know

Airmail the green You take it off somebody's head It's back you take it off the tent that they build It's back you've got a little bit of insurance there That and they never lose a ball Because people watching for them Yeah yeah that's a good point That'd be good for us

But then we play the role like But if we're playing the PGA Would we have found it? Yeah okay It doesn't count Then it's not a drop So do you have a story of hitting anybody with the ball? I've never done

anything like that. I early in my career I was signed to a record deal with Toby Keith and got to know him pretty well and I went out to Pebble Beach with him and I watched him ask a woman about a hundred yards away from him. He was like, hey, can you move? And she was like, no, he's like, hey, can you move?

And he goes, okay. And he hits his three wood and drills her with the ball. And luckily it hit her in his purse. And he goes, told you to move. He was that good. I mean, because that's pretty accurate. He kind of knew. No, she was like 20 yards left of the fairway. It was, that was, he knew his tendencies.

Dang. He asked her twice, though. Asked her twice, you know. It wasn't his fault at that point. Dang. I mentioned this about Cooper Flagg and Duke. Kevin, do you watch Kentucky and Duke play at all? I did not.

I watched the last couple minutes, a guy got an alert saying the game was close on Apple. So do you get the Apple alerts, you guys? No, but that's awesome. I need to get that. So any game, it's like, it's close. little black thing comes down to Apple and so go over and I watched it

and they went to Cooper Flagg and I so at the end of the game he did not hit they did not win so whatever the whole thing to me that sticks out of a Cooper Flag who practiced with the Olympic team right went to Vegas with all those guys in the Olympic team he's still only 17 I know he's a he's still still only 17 he's not even it's not

just he's a freshman he's a reclassified freshman he would be a senior in high school this year he finished the game with 26.12 rebounds to blocks. Again, at the end, he had a couple turnovers, it got a little ugly. Not even ugly, but he's so

semi-dominate, at times really dominant. But he's 17 years old. It's wild. And he didn't really look it. Like, I was watching Dartmouth or something yesterday, and like there's a kid there that looked like he's my 16-year-old's age. Is it getting a shorter though? No, it's just a face or whatever.

But he doesn't look like 17 to me. He's huge. He has a twin brother who's playing at Maine. And it's weird when twins don't get the same genetics. Like, I feel bad for the less physically blessed, at least right now, twin, because things can change. And who knows, the other brother may be smarter. Yeah.

Maybe. But it's, some twins are just bigger. For example, Kevin Kluge, our trainer, his twin brother is just a little bigger than he is. And Kevin Kluge played college football. His brother played in the NFL because his brother was two inches taller and 20 pounds. That made a difference. Yeah, that's got to suck.

Being the other one. What would probably suck less is if you were just completely different as a twin. Yeah. Meaning you're identical twins, but like Ray Mundo and his brother, Ray's short and muscular and his brother's tall. Like they weren't going to do the exact same thing. Did it matter? Their bodies weren't the same. That would probably be the better twin to be than to almost the exact same and then one is really great and you're good. They're the, like, the Lopez twins, you know.

Yeah, but both so elite. Yeah, I'd say they're pretty. One was better and played longer, but still. Jake Owen has a twin, doesn't he? He does have a twin. Very different than him too, right? Very different. Yeah.

But Jake just chose, I think they just, I think they chose to do different things. Like, knowing Jake's twin brother was like the guy in high school, athlete. And Jake was kind of like, he played sports, he was kind of like the loser music guy. And that flip. Where as far as the music, well, you aren't a loser anymore. Now you're like the guy. Let me tell you from experience, the flip from being the loser music guy to the cool music guy is the coolest feeling in the world. Because, I mean, you eat it for a long time in music.

There's no worse feeling than sitting at a bar playing guitar and nobody listening and everybody kind of rolling your eyes. Like, oh, you're chasing this dream. Good luck, dude. Is that because high school is so like sports base for like, oh, you play sports, you're cool guy? 100%. And if you bring a guitar, if you have a guitar, everybody's like, oh, what's that? this guy going to come sing kumbaya off where it's like great. Really campfire.

And you're celebrated within the culture of high school. So if you're on the high school football team and that school celebrates that, you're a part of what's happening there. Musically, I guess if there was a band, like every school had a band they were proud of and went and toured and rooted for them to win about it. That would be different. But there's not a culture of celebrating music like that. Like there's a culture of, you know, if you're on the marching band. that idea. What's that?

A band? A band? A band? You go win battle of the bands. And they tour. It's like, yeah, like school of rock. Would be cool. Yeah.

Okay, next up. I got a few things on my mind here. Hey, I got my mind on you. Hey, don't sing it if you don't believe it, Eddie. That's right, Eddie. You don't think it. It's everywhere I go, man. You do not think he's a superstar.

Rookie quarterback comparisons. I just wanted to pull up the stats on these four guys real quick. Caleb stats, 1700 passing yards, nine touchdowns, five interceptions. Are they going to pull him? I don't think you can. Not yet. You got to try it out with the new OC, right?

You know? Okay, let me rephrase. Are they going to give him a break for a minute? Or is he just going to run with the new? Because again, Waldron go fired. There's so much hype around him. That would be. Maybe after week 12 when they're officially eliminated from playoffs,

maybe they're like, yeah, well, let's get him some rest. It just feels unhappy. Yeah. Not just losing. It just feels unhappy. Looking at the body language. Yeah. It feels so unhappy.

And they are not good. And we thought they, even myself, like, look at all the weapons they have everywhere. Well, I never really got why they kept Eber Flues or whatever. And he's a defensive coach. Yeah. You know, he's a purely defensive coach. Right. You would think with a new, young, hot-shot quarterback, you'd bring in an offensive mind.

Right. Kingsbury was there, right? Yeah, they do have the hardest schedule remaining, too. That doesn't help. That's crazy. Let's look at Jaden Stats with the commanders, 2100 passing yards, nine touchdowns, two interceptions. The big difference there, I mean, for the most part,

touch-ons are the same are the passing yards, a few less interceptions, but the rushing yards is pretty big. He's got almost 500. And also, like, dude, wins. Yeah. He was just NFL ready from the get-go. Except his body isn't? Yeah. He's a Kevin Durant. Remember Kevin Durant? He's never going to make it in the NBA. He can do the twig. That's true. That's true. Drake, May. Hey, Drake, dude, I think you might have something. I think you might have something. I think so, too. We're ready. 9.54. He does not have the accumulation of passing yards because he hasn't played as many games. It doesn't start as many games, obviously. Seven touchdown five interceptions. I would say the

worst cast of all three of those, though. Absolutely. He has the least amount of weapon. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I think there's something Drake, mate, and it's pretty cool to see because it's so raw, but you're starting to see now, like, something you feel pretty good about building around. Yeah, it's fun to watch. It's exciting.

Hey, Reed, would you hand me that behind my desk? Yeah, I got you. And then Bo Nix, who has 2,000 passing yards, 10 touchdown, 6 interceptions. I love Bo Nix. You mean Ferris Bueller? Shout out to Bowe Nix. Dude, I love Bo Nix.

They should have won that game. It would be six and five. Bo Nix goes so hard in both directions, winning and losing. Right. Like, he goes. You can pull it. Yeah, you can pull it out. I brought this in.

I'm going to leave it up here. Oh. This is my... You can pull it. This is my... Bow Nix. Oh, that's pretty. Rookie gold.

That's chrome. Look at this. This is for my guy here. If I were going to take one of these four quarterbacks, well, I may know you, Bo. But I'm going to say it's probably. But I think Bo Nex is a baller. Yeah, he's awesome. No fear. That's number one.

But yeah, that's pretty cool helmet, huh? Yeah. It's really cool. With a visor. Yeah, blue visor. Bo Nix signed that. To Bobby and George, my favorite pickleball team. Really?

To superstar George. He wrote that on the back. What order, Kevin, do you take them if you have to redraft them? Jaden. Drake. Drake over Caleb Oh, you being a homer though? I'm being a homer

I'm being a homer But Jaden, Drake, Caleb, Bo. Casey, you? Jaden, Caleb, Drake, Bo. Eddie? I would go Jaden.

I would go, I still like Caleb and I would go Bo Drake. Drake to me hasn't proven anything yet. Yes, there's a lot of hope there, but I don't see it yet.

I'm probably going to go still Caleb then Jaden then Bo then Drake I think all four of these quarterbacks could end up being good which is odd in a class where all four of them hit I mean we're not gonna

the fight we're not getting a chance to see old old Michigan boy from playing with the Vikings until next year all right thank you very much let's do this you guys want to build a parlay or no

we're gonna be up on the app we're gonna win be next week not this week nope let's do a three or then okay we'll go we're gonna pick three

games here. I got a good one. He's ready. I got a good one. Go ahead. We got to go Northwestern over Ohio State. What's the brain? Northwestern is at plus 28 and a half.

And for some reason, when I've had crazy parlay's hit this year, Northwestern's that one team where I'm like, let me just, I don't know, let me chance it with Northwestern. They always come through for me. Dude, this is it. Northwestern is, it's going to be, I wouldn't say it's going to be a close game, but they're going to safely cover that bet. We're picking based on your... It's a pretty good team.

Better than anything else we do. I say big. Okay, so Northwestern plus 28. Over Ohio State. Dude, they're going to get beat by 100. Do you think so? It doesn't matter what I think. I'm telling you, Northwestern's just been that team where I'm like,

I'm just tail a little fire on them. Okay, we'll throw them. And they have not let me down yet. Kevin. I'm looking at South Carolina at home against Missouri minus 12 right now. Is Brady, is Cook still out? I don't know. Obviously he was out last week

and that affected the game greatly. Do you know yours? Go with yours if you do. Yeah, I know mine. I just want I told Amy to bet. Oregon minus 14 of Wisconsin. Quack, quack. Yeah. Like, don't mess with Oregon now.

They're now good. Yes. What is the Texas Arkansas spread? Minus 13. Oh, he's not touching that. I don't, I don't. Who do you got, George? Oh, a guest picker?

Well, no, he's a Texas fan. I went to school there. We're going to talk about that. second. I'm just going to go with it. South Carolina minus 12. You sure? Yeah. I feel like you just threw that one together. No, it stuck out to me and... So what are we doing? Northwestern plus 28 and a half. And a half. Don't forget it. Oregon minus 14 at Wisconsin. And Kevin yours is... South Carolina minus 12 at home against Missouri. I wonder what they know about the quarterback situation. Missouri's not very good.

Their offense is quite good when their quarterback plays. don't let their reputation as Missouri affect your judgment because they have not been good for years. No, I'm not. This year, they were frauds in the beginning. We like Missouri, nothing against them. I don't know they were fraudulent.

I think some of the teams that almost beat them, we learned they weren't fraudulent, like Vanderbilt. Like Vanderbilt takes them to overtime, and we're like, Missouri's a fraud. And then we're like, nope, Vanderbilt's actually pretty good. What's our schedule? I'm not fighting for Missouri. I'm not fighting for Missouri.

I know. I know. but South Carolina just smoked Vanderbilt on the road. South Carolina's really good, though. Yeah. Like the week before that, South Carolina beat... They had a good win the week before that. Now my SEC games are getting mixed up. I know.

It's a lot of games. There's our game. There it is. A&M. They whooped to A&M. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's when they storm the field, right? Yep. If you want to take 25 whistles parlay, you can check out

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Tom Pelsera. Tom's all over NFL Network, hosting a daily TV show called The Insiders, which is a great show, to appearing on Good Morning Football, Game day morning. I mean, he is everywhere. He is, as they would say, ubiquitous.

Do you use that word? No, never. I don't think I've ever used that word. Unbicutious. No? Obiquitous? Don't even know how to pronounce it. Do you, George?

That would be a first for me to use. Really? Ambiguous? No. I did not think it was a word that no one used. Say the word one more time. Ubiquitous? Yeah.

You should look it up then because you'll always remember what it means. The only reason I even know it and use it It's one time somebody called me that a few years ago on an article and I got, I was like, F them. And then I realized I shouldn't have been mad. You didn't know what it meant. Yeah, I realized, well, I guess I shouldn't have been mad at that. That's funny.

Okay, what? Yeah, how do you spell that? You, B, I, I forgot where we are. It pulled up. Yeah, it started with a E. U-U-U-U-I-T-I-O-U-U-S. And it means ubiquitous, present. You-biquitous.

It's like everywhere. And he still spelled it wrong. Commonly, yes. It's present appearing and being around everywhere. Exactly. Like, you're just kind of everywhere. And the article was like, Bible is everywhere. It's on TV.

But it was like, by one, it's ubiquitous. I'm like, F you. Whatever that means, I'm not that. It's like, oh, it means I'm just kind of living in some areas. That's funny. Yeah, Tom Palliserro, he is ubiquitous. He's everywhere. Tom is very dialed in.

Follow him at Tom Pelliserro. Here he is, as we said 18 times. Tom Pellasero. You're the guy we wanted to talk to for a couple reasons. One, because we feel like if there's anyone that knows what's going on with the Anthony Richards situation with Colts, it would be you. They're going back to Richardson. Are they going to stay with him?

Why did they make this decision now? Yeah, so they went to Joe Flacco two weeks ago, and that was a product of a couple of things. One, they just weren't efficient offensively. There was a strange situation where Anthony Richardson literally taps out of that game because he was gassed. What I was told at the time was Anthony Richardson needed a breath, whether that's mentally, physically, emotionally, he just needed to have something of a reset. Obviously, they'd seen Joe Flacco playing at a high level to that point in the season when he'd gotten onto the field. Their passing

game had been more consistent. So Flacco gets his first start Sunday night football against the Vikings against a really tough opponent on the road, tough environment. Brian Flores, call him plays. Doesn't go great. And then last week, you know, the pick six right out of the gate and the Colts are in the early hole, even though Shane Stuyken went to the podium on Monday and said, Joe Flacco's the guy until I say otherwise, Joe Flacco's the guy moving forward, it probably shouldn't shock anybody that, you know, at that time,

he already was thinking we may have to switch back to Anthony Richardson. So the hope here is that for a guy who was drafted forth overall, who had not played a ton of football, who is still one of the youngest quarterbacks in the NFL about. He's 22 years old, that this was kind of a, you know, wake-up call a little bit. You know, we got to grow up a bit. It wasn't doing anything wrong, per se.

But there's a youth to him and maybe a naivete where all those extra things. It's not just a matter of being a great preparer. It's being the best. Those are the things they were hoping sitting back for a couple of weeks when Joe Flacco starting was going to bring him. They're optimistic that he did learn some things. They would have loved that Joe Flacco and the Colts had won those games. Then we're not even having this discussion. But Anthony Richardson, even though it's very inconsistent, lowest completion,

all that stuff. He's got one or two plays every game. We were like, holy cow, they can harness that. This guy's got a chance. We'll see in a second opportunity, whether he's able to take those steps forward. A couple of human questions based on this circumstances. One, Joe Flacker, like, how does he feel about being benched again? Did he know his role as just to be the stop gap? He played great with the Browns. Wasn't expected to really be the quarterback for the Browns, but then does and plays wonderfully. then was with the Colts this year, not as great of a season. But does he get upset when he gets benched or does he, from the very beginning, Noah's role? And the second part of the human question is, like, how does the locker room feel about Anthony Richardson in general?

Joe Flacco is, you know, he's seen it all. He's 40 years old. He was drafted back in 08. You know, this is a guy who has won a Super Bowl, been the highest paid player in the NFL twice. Yet for a large chunk of his career in Baltimore, you know, he was a bit of a punchline. It was just Joe Flacco, because he's, I think, this big kind of gangly-looking, immobile guy. People just wanted to poke holes in him. But he's highly accomplished within the league.

Nobody signed him last year. The guy's on his couch in November, the Browns, he was the fifth different, or the fourth or fifth different starting quarterback the Browns had. Last year, nobody was signing him. And then he goes on that run last year. He plays well down the stretch. He still got, and one coach that I really trust in the league, always describes it this way with Joe Flacko.

He's got arm twitch. In other words, not only is he seeing the field and processing quickly, but the way he can still get the ball out, even though he doesn't move really great, he can get the football out really quickly. That part of his game is still there, but nobody was signing them this offseason. The Browns weren't resigning them. Part of that was, I'm sure, that they didn't want calls for Joe Flacco the moment that Sean Watson struggled.

In the end, maybe the Browns would have liked Joe Flacco to be there based upon how their season went. But for Joe Flacco, he knows this is results-based. He knows he's not anybody's long-term solution, as long as he wants to play in the NFL. This is probably his role. Most backup quarterbacks, Bobby, if you look across the NFL over the course of time, you're happy if you can go 500 with those guys. There's not a lot of times.

Yeah, Nick Folles had a great run with the Eagles. Flacco last season when he came in. But those stories are few and far between. You're just hoping somebody can get you back to your starting quarterback. Flacco had his opportunity. They lost a couple of games. And with regard to the locker room and Anthony Richardson, and everybody wants the same thing.

Everybody there wants to have a team that's winning, a team that is productive, that's making big plays, and it's fun to be on the field. They're not on it. Look at the standings right now. The AFC South is wide open, especially with the Texans, stumbling of late here.

I anticipate fully that they are going to rally around Anthony Richardson, and they're going to hope, again, that this wake-up call for him over the last couple of weeks brings back a guy who maybe takes, you know, even if it's baby steps toward making the most of his guy given abilities. I want to stay internally and even to speculate internally with the Bears. They just fired Waldron, the offensive coordinator.

I don't know if any of those guys are going to be around next year. But how do you feel Caleb Williams is being received by his teammates? I mean, we've seen people walk off the field. You know, maybe he had an injury. But like what's happening there with Caleb Williams in Chicago? I think it's hard, Bobby, to fully evaluate, you know, anything that's going on with surrounding specifically Caleb Williams, because the whole thing hasn't looked very good.

DJ Moore, who's got a great reputation as a locker room guy, as a person, he's been the one throwing his helmet. He's the one, as you referenced, who in the middle of a play, I've never seen that before. He tweaks something, but walks off the field and is sitting on the bench while Caleb Williams is still scrambling around. These are unusual types of things. I think that there were probably unrealistic expectations, quite honestly,

for how quickly the Bears were going to play at a high level this season because they went and they signed the Andre Swift and they traded for Kean Allen and they drafted in Roma Dunezay. The defense was playing great. Everybody looked at them like, hey, they used to be challenging in the division. The reality is coming from that air raid derivative scheme that Caleb Williams played in with Lincoln Riley, and specifically in 2023, when USC's receivers in their offensive line weren't very good,

if you watch his highlight reel, almost everything is off-schedule, hero ball, throwing off balance, running around outside the pocket. It's hard to live like that in the NFL. And so there was a lot that Caleb Williams was going to have to learn in terms of playing within the scope of an offense and playing within rhythm. You know, I've known Shane Waldron for a long time. He trained under Bill Belichick, Shaw McVade, Pete Carroll. All those guys trusted him on staff. He was the OSC the last two years with Pete in Seattle. He's a very smart guy. He's a good football coach. He's a great dude. But he is, a personality that if not introverted, he's at minimum introspective and intellectual. He is not going to be a high energy in your face type of guy.

Some of the stuff you've been hearing from players, both what was leaked out early in the season and what guys like Keenan Allen said yesterday is, well, he didn't coach us hard enough. He let some things slide. He was too nice of a guy. That's shame. And that works with certain players, with certain groups players. Obviously with this one, they want to be coached differently. They now have a guy in Thomas Brown coming in, who I also have known for a number of years.

He is going to be high energy and have a ton of juice. It's a different personality. Is that going to make a difference? It's the same playbook. It's the same players on the field. Sometimes at least short term, there's a placebo effect. And people can feel like, well, this is different. This gives us a chance here.

But in terms of the big picture, you nailed it. You know, what happens these last eight games is certainly going to influence where things go from here. for the Bears coaching staff, for the Bears organization. The one thing that I can sit here and confidently tell you is the Bears believe in Caleb Williams. They want Caleb Williams to be the guy trying to build a stadium. Caleb is a big piece of that.

They've got to get this thing right, and they'll continue to tweak things until they do that. I was watching Aaron Rogers, I guess after practice yesterday, and they'd ask him, hey, do you want to come back? And he's like, yeah, I think I do. Whatever his little answer was there. Like, do we believe he will come back? We believe he even thinks he's going to come back, or is he just doing like Aaron Rogers extension of Care About Me content?

You know, it was interesting because Aaron for all the times that he kind of mused about retirement late in his days in Green Bay and at one point threatened retirement because he was fed up with the Packers organization. Then they paid him on a big contract after another MVP season. Things seemed fine for like another year. And then he ends up getting traded to the Jets over time. And even while, you know, he played four snaps last season before he tore the Achilles. but there were interviews with him because he goes on the Pat McAfee show every week. And it was like, yeah, I think I want to play multiple seasons. You know, I'd like to play three seasons.

It started to extend, then all of a sudden the losses start to mount again. And now we're back to, I think I want to play in 2025. Quite honestly, this is the first time, or at least the most degree to which Aaron Rogers has not necessarily been in control of his future. You know, there's real questions. They already fired Robert Sulla. his good friend Nathaniel Hackett is not calling plays anymore for the Jets. He's under contract with New York, but do the Jets want him back? Under what circumstances do they want him back?

Who would the coaches be on that team? Does he really want to go and start over someplace else and have to go through the same process and try to get some of his people in and learn new team? These are real questions, and it's going to be dictated in part by who they end up hiring. This question is just about the head coach hiring process that they're going to go through, because Donald Trump was just reelected, and that means Woody Johnson could be, the owner could be headed for an ambassadorship,

and so it could be his brother Christopher running the process. You know, it's wild to think about, like, these massive world issues that impact professional football, but they're real things, and they definitely also, you know, potentially bear on the future of a guy who has dabbled a little bit in politics himself in Aaron Rogers. I'm sure he's got a million other things in this life that he wants to do.

But I would tell you this, Bobby, if he had thought there was a one-per-one, chance that the 2024 season went like this in New York, I don't believe he would have come back for this year. I look at him taking hits like he did the play after last week when there's a third down pass for Devonpe Adams in the end zone. It gets tipped and it falls incomplete. Fourth down, he's trying to do an old school Aaron Rogers thing scrambling around buying time outside, inside the pocket, and he gets blasted. And he goes down in like the chalk outline pose on the ground. And all I'm thinking watching this is somebody who's covered Aaron since my days back.

at the Green Bay Press Gazette is he's got to be laying there going, what am I dealing? Well, why am I, I made all the money of won four MVP's. I've wanted to say, why am I out here getting my butt kicked on a bad team right now? You know, I would anticipate he's going to step back after the season, evaluate what's best for him, but also evaluate the landscape and the Jets are going to be doing the same thing. Final three questions. I want to go to coaching. I just want to ask about Belichick.

Do you think he'll be back next year? He'd like to be. Bill Belichick, despite the fact that, has he done your show, Bobby? Has he been here on the podcast? He has not been on our show yet. You're the last show, I think. Which is why we haven't gone after. We're not going at.

Has he been offered? It's different than has he been on. We love coach, but yes. I'm going to say it, he's everywhere in the media game, but I can tell you he is doing things on a daily basis all the time to prepare to return. He is staying up to speed on game tape. He's staying up to speed on staffing. He's talking to people.

He's evaluating potential coaching openings. He intends to be back. What will be interesting to see with Belichick is what opportunities present themselves and are they the ones that he would want? He's going to be selected. He's not going to go to a total tear down, rebuild with no resources, no quarterback. I don't know that he really would want to go, you know, to the West Coast even, just based on, you know, where he's at in his life and where his family is located.

You know, one of his sons is obviously out at the University of Washington, but a lot of his family's on the East Coast. You know, those are all questions he'll have to evaluate here. The other piece of this is, you know, for Bill and for Mike Brable and for Brian Flores, among others, there's real questions based on the hiring process a year ago of, do owners still want to hire people from negative reinforcement cultures? There's a lot of enthusiasm right now about the Dan Campbells of the world and the D'Amico Rions and these coaches who, it's positive energy all the time,

and they want everyone to be a part of it, as opposed to like the football God archetype where it's Bill Belichick, everyone answers to him, don't question him, you know, he's on top. I believe Bill at this point knows probably some, you know, things that maybe he would do differently from his days in New England. I think he's more meldable to working with different people,

but it's still, he knows one way to coach, which is always to point out the things that we could do better. This generation of players, does that get through? You know, right now we're seeing some of the guys, guys like Dan Quinn, who have been that positive reinforcement guy for a long time, having success, does that impact the hiring trends? Or do people go, Bill Belichick's one more games than almost everybody in NFL history? What are we, we're going to hire some 35-year-old one-year offensive coordinator?

Or are we going to hire Bill? If you're close, if you think that you're not that far away and you've got the resources in place, maybe it's a thing. Two questions left, and I'll spin off that. If the Cowboys make a coaching change, which it seems inevitable, they will. Would Jerry Jones hire someone like a Vrabel or a Belichick, a big personality coach? He doesn't have a long left to live. That's a morbid thing to say.

But does he finally give up on having somebody he can control? Well, I think also does Jerry want to start over? Mike McCarthy's contracts up. So one way or another, Mike and the Cowboys are going to have decisions to make at the end of this thing. You know, if you bring in, for instance, a Belichick, Bill's history. And again, I think he's more meldable on this. But Bill's history has been you set up a program, certain way, and you're probably going to go down before you go up. The Cowboys won 12 games each

of the last three seasons. This season for a variety of different reasons, including not paying CD-LAM until the last second, including not paying DAC until the end, a bunch of different injuries here. There have been circumstances. Does Jerry believe bringing in a Belichick is going to help him win right away? Whatever he thinks can get them put one more trophy in the case, I believe, to your point, that's what Jerry's going to want to do. Having said that, the idea of Bill Belichick being the head coach of the Cowboys, and after a game, he walks to the podium and he wants to give his usual three-word answers, and someone's like, yeah, Jerry's out in the hall questioning that third-down defense you called there? What do you think? Bill's head would explode. I just,

I can't imagine that he'd want to be in that type of an environment. But if that's, you know, if that's the best place. And if they can figure it out, hey, we're just going to make our egos come together for the next couple of years. You rule nothing out. I don't personally believe that's a great fit for anybody involved. But until the Cowboys throw out there plan for 2025, anything's possible. Last question. And I know you're a Minnesota guy.

What's up with JJ McCarthy? Obviously not playing injured. But what's the future there at quarterback in Minnesota? Well, the first thing you got to ask yourself is, you know, J.J. McCarthy's health because he did have the additional procedure. They called it a biologic injection, which I think gives people a bunch of images of aliens and stuff. Now, it's common treatments, PRP and things that they do to promote healing. He had some swelling when he was going through his rehab, you know, as they kind of were increasing the load on the knee that he had the meniscus repaired in. My understanding is pretty minor procedure.

No impact on the timeline should be back for 2025. Flip side of that, Sam Darnold, even though we've seen a little more of the bad Sam Darnold here in recent. in weeks. He's still played by a large at a high level. And I would think, you know, there's really no precedent for a rookie quarterback to miss an entire season because of injury. There have been guys who have sat, but that's a whole year of reps that J.J. McCarthy is missing out on. Even though Kevin O'Connell said like two days after he got hurt, you know, we've seen enough. We know JJ's going to be our quarterback of the future. I don't take that to mean he's going to be QB1 and we're just going to have some young backup or, you know, the Joe Flacco is the

world behind it. I think you have to go into 2025. with another plan, if for no other reason than to ease the pressure on J.J. McCarthy is he's coming off of a major surgery to get back in, you know, and up and running quickly here. So what's it going to cost if Sam Darnold is that guy? And I would certainly think, you know, again, if he's given the opportunity that, hey, you're going to come in here, you're going to be the guy at the front of the line. We're playing on you starting until J.J. is ready? I would think Sam Darnold would love to be back. Is that something in the neighborhood of, you know, is it the Baker-Mayfield contract from two years ago, which was one year five million. It's kind of like

Darnold's deal. I think is one year 10 million this year. Or as closer to the Baker-Mayfield deal, he got this past March after one year in Tampa, which was three years for 75. It's probably the latter. There's not enough quarterbacks in the league. Are the Vikings willing to spend that type of money to bring Darnold back? I would certainly think that they have a plan for it. I just, J.J. McCartney is the future in Minnesota. Does that future mean week one in 2025? TBD. talking about before you came on how good a job you do on NFL network that's a great you guys do a great job on the show um so congratulations on that you do awesome filling in for rich eisen when he's gone like you're like the only guest host on any podcast i listen to that i will actually listen to

most i'm like i listen to a podcast for the person but when you're on you're on you kill it and you guys we'll put his social handles down in the notes as well tom thank you for the time and i'm a massive fan uh you know more than anybody else period in football and we're so happy spent some time with us man thank you well bobby next time you're making an album or a tv show or writing a book or one of your many other projects. You need to fill in on the Bobby Bones podcast. It's you. You know it would come.

It is you. All right, Tom, see you, buddy. All right, a couple things. Let's talk about the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight. One, what's our level of caring? George Burge, 10 means you wouldn't miss it for anything in the world. One means, huh? Tyson Paul.

How much do you care? I am excited. I've been watching. I actually spent an hour when I should have been going to bed watching Mike Tyson hype videos last night of his new training routine. Oh, it's a new one. Yeah, so he's moving really well for a, Is he 56-year-old?

Something like that? Yeah, 56, 58, maybe. He's up there. But, I mean, the sound the bag makes when that fist hits it is, I mean, you take one shot and you're gone. Now, the thing that's taking my interest level down a little bit is it sounds like there's some kind of kitchy rules in there. The gloves are a little softer, two ounces. The rounds are instead of three-minute rounds or two-minute rounds. What I like about it, though, because you're right, they did soften it a bit to make it.

not feel like a boring boxing match that we're going to see on Showtime if we happen to go across Showtime from two guys I never heard of. In the middle of night. Yeah, because that's kind of the only time I've ever seen boxing anymore.

Is that it is, it does count on your record. Because at first it wasn't counting and people were like, we don't care because you're going to throw it, fix it, make it entertainment because it's pure, it might as well be WWE

if it doesn't count. But it does, they've said it does count on your record. And because of that, That interests me a bit. Sure. I think the other cool thing is, and I might be wrong, but I don't think he's ever boxed anybody with the hitting power of Tyson.

So, you know, he's been able to kind of get inside, keep his hands up, and kind of just crowd the other boxer every match so far and kind of just wear people out. He does a lot of hugging in there kind of, and I think Tyson has enough power where, you know, he throws a couple shots and can kind of knock him on his heels. and it'd be fun to see him not get knocked out. I'll say that. It would be fun. Yeah.

It'd be fun to see either. The best scenario would be Paul to get knocked out. Yeah. The second best scenario would be to see Mike Tyson get knocked out because you just know they were trying then. Yeah. Which is also, I mean, he's huge. Jake Paul has gotten giant. Yeah.

And I don't want Mike Tyson got out. But if that happens, then you know they were really trying. Yeah. Otherwise, they're brother-in-law, each other. I just don't want to see the Mayweather fight over again. You know what I mean? That was, yeah, I think we all felt, Yeah, and we all kind of felt like we wasted our time

watching that, it was just. Or the Pacchio? Did he also fight McGregor? Who did McGregor fight? Mayweather? Mayweather, okay. They boxed. He boxed him.

Right. He would try to hammer fist him and everything. Which honestly, I felt like it was pretty noble of McGregor to get out of his comfort zone. And he held his own, like pretty respectively. Yeah. I'll be noble. Yeah, he's on a beach with bottle service now.

McGregor is chilling. He threw a couple kicks in there, too. They're like, hey, whoa. Up the brakes. Here we go. Both fighters will be. We run 14 ounce gloves instead of the 10 ounce gloves. Each round will be two minutes rather than three.

The fight is scheduled to go eight rounds instead of 10. So, yes, they have modified it to make it a bit more stimulating for not the common boxing fan. For like us who we'll take two minutes, we'll take a little puffier gloves. We don't need as many rounds. Like just go hit each other. Also, I wish they would do it by those big, big, real big gloves. Like one round? Yeah, like round five, those gigantic gloves.

That'd be awesome. Yeah. Like randomly, draw one number, which round this is, the round they put on those. Those gloves. Hulcans? Yeah. Yes, that kind of thing.

That would be awesome. Do we think, and let's just go around there, do you think it will be a legitimate fight, meaning they're both going to try as hard as they can, George? I don't think that Tyson is training like he is to not go in there and mail it in. I think he's going to, I think he's going in there with the goal of knocking him out. Kevin? No, I don't think it will be.

I think we've seen this too many times in the last decade. I'm like, I just, I'm not falling for this one. I can't do it. I'm hooked on in small area. They have conditioned us to not be, to not believe it. I mean, they've conditioned it. Right, right, like weird things. Casey?

I agree with George that. I think Tyson is putting a lot of work in that at least he's taking it seriously. I don't know about Jake. You're talking about a guy that bit another dude's ear off. Like, it's not like he has a governor. I was watching him talk and he was like, I don't like who I have to turn into and I train. I try to not be that guy. And the whole time I was trying not to be that guy and I'm training, but now I'm that guy and I don't like me.

Yes. He's scared of himself. He's like, I never wanted to be, I never wanted to even be me, and I am. I, unfortunately, think it's going to be a situation where he's just, Jake's going to barely win it at the end, and Mike's going to just pass the crown. I don't think Mike would go into it knowing that he would get knocked out or that it would just be an insane fight to where Jake wins. But I think, you think it's already going to be, in their mind they know the ending?

I think so. Do you think if it's, well, it's a real sanctioned fight. I don't know if the judges are. But the fact that it's actually sanctioned makes me feel like they can't cheat that much openly or like ruin the credibility of the people. But even in like the real fights, it seems like they're cheating. Like that's, it's a sport where I have a question. What does Mike's bank account look like? Does he need the money?

Or is it like, here's why I would, I would like to give a semi-educated answer on that. What do you guys think first? I think he could use it. He can use some money. Maybe the funds are a little low. But what does that mean? Like he only has some millions or he's broke? Only some millions and would like some more.

Yeah, that would be my guess. I know that they paid him what was rumored to be $20,000 to come here to do a signing at a sports card thing where he came for the day and signed. And he flew here to do. And that, I thought that was extremely low. Yeah, 20 grand. Yeah, I would say that. He didn't fly private. He flew, they paid for his flight, he flies over, stays in a hotel, signs for 20.

And that's a lot of money, but I'm saying for him. So if he's going to do that, I would think he does not have a humongous nest egg that he's like, I'm rich, I'm good either way. He's not poor, I'm not saying he's poor, but I would have thought for like the Tyson, as legendary as he is, it's like $100,000 to get him to go anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. But he flew commercial, made $20,000. That's very interesting. And that's why, that's the only reason I feel the way that I do.

Have they revealed the money for this fight? I don't know. Would you Google that? I think he was paid around 20 million. Who was? Mike Tyson was paid around 20 million. And at one point he had a net worth of 400 million, then he went broke. He was all the way broke.

And he's worth about 10 million now. 10 was going to be my guess. Yeah. So he's still getting paid from Hangover? Probably those little checks. A little residuals. I get little residuals and band slams. I'm sure he gets residuals.

Great movie, by the way, man. Yeah, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Okay. Championship odds, NCAA football. Number one, Ohio State. Number two, Oregon. They'll have to play each other.

most likely if Ohio State beats Indiana they'll play each other again in the championship game right it'd be awesome if Indiana beat Ohio State

I have a bad feeling that Indiana is about to have to learn a quick lesson in hey that's cute but I want them to beat Ohio State it's not this week anyway

it's next week right next week yeah I mean Ohio State has to get through Northwestern first the same but less than 28 and a half this week

Texas at 3 Georgia at 4 Ole Miss and Alabama both at 5 plus 1,000. I mean, my money's on Alabama. It was before this last win. My money's on Alabama. What's going to be crazy is if Georgia misses and Georgia's going to be a better team than

Notre Dame has an ugly loss. That Northern Illinois loss is the ugliest of anybody that's even in consideration to be in the college football playoffs. That's an ugly loss. At home, too. That's the worst loss. Georgia is easily better than Notre Dame, Indiana, Miami, Clemson, SMU,

they're better than almost everybody quickly without even there being consideration and they may miss the playoff. That's wild. That's wild. I will say this.

It doesn't even make sense. I also love the playoff. They were like, we hate the playoffs, it's going to make it. It's amazing. There's so many games that matter now. Like in the grand scheme of winning a national chain,

it's the greatest thing. But what's crazy is people are still going to be upset even though they're 12. but it's so much easier to be upset about 13 to 14 than 3 and 4 because there's a real fight at 3 and 4 especially last year with FSU

just makes so many more games that matter which is so much fun to watch and if you're 13th or 14th buddy that's on you right that means you lost a couple games yeah that means you lost a couple of you could have lost one game and had an equal record and not been the the 21st you know last year

it's made football so much better um okay anything else I want to do here Mike, do we need to go to one more break? Yeah, it's go to one more. Okay, one more break. The Emirates NBA Cup is here.

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I have no expectation, George, so I'm in life, generally. Oh, my. No, I'm sad. Why? It sucks. I get you. I get it. I hate it.

It sucks. Are you going or no? I wasn't. But you are now. I might. I hate losing. I hate losing to Texas. I hate losing to Texas and then being trapped and can't get out because it takes forever to get out of that place because there's no roads.

So then you're just like laying in your own stew. It's like you peed in the bathtub with your bath water. and then someone's holding you in there and you're like, well, I guess I got to stay in this peed bathwater. It's a terrible analogy. Have you done that before? Dude, it's a hypothetical that just came out. It's very vivid description, yeah.

I, I hate Texas. I hate everything about school. I wish they would disappear, I wish they'd break it up and send it to the other schools. Oh my goodness. I said that. It's out of respect, though, because Texas has more money.

They win more than us. The colors aren't cooler, but they do have their own, color that they own and that's pretty cool. But I was not going to go because I didn't want to just go and take the beating. Man, I think we might do it. I think you'll have a real football team for one. I think that it will be...

You say for one or for once? We don't have a real football. For one. For my first point. Got it's like for two. Let me roll this list out here really quick. I think we are healthier than we have been and for the first time in a second. Texas looked pretty strong last week.

I think it's going to be a football game. I do think it will be not a blow away either way, and it'll be exciting to watch. The last time we played you guys, like two years, three years ago, I was there. It was awesome. We were stormed the field after. I did, and I was up in the suite.

Don't worry about me. I forgot. You're older now. Black that out. No, that was three years ago. I'm back. It was like maybe two years ago. I don't know.

Got it. Yeah, yeah. I was up in sweet. It was awesome. And then you guys ended up not having a great year. It was his first year coaching. So we guys want like six to six, year.

Sark's been really good for the program. It's been cool to see him turn around the just everything there. Yeah, because I mean, we, you talk about Texas having the tournament last year with four teams. You talk about Texas having money and a brand and everything. I mean, we could do whatever we wanted, but we could not win. I mean, that was a 10-year stretch where we were just head coach after head coach seasons that were not up to Texas standard. So to see him turning that program all the way around. Yeah, it's exciting to be a Longhorn fan again.

I hope you lose so bad. But I hope that ever. Is there a team that you just want to get beat by whomever they play? Like, who is that team? Texas Tech. Texas Tech. You hit Tech? That when they throw the tortillas on the fields after they win.

And when they killed our national championship hopes, Crabtree. Crabtree. That was. Halloween. That was crazy. And then to watch the tortillas and all, I mean, it was, it hurt. Dude, that was such a crap.

I mean, I remember. Vividly, yes. It's Texas Tech, yeah. do that craps your catch at the sideline and then it Oh my God That was nuts

And then it was in Lubbock Yeah And they went berserk And so did that Because I rode against Texas For everything You jumped on cars too

Yeah Alone Bobby's got tortillas Just ready to Mine is Texas Obviously Kevin who's yours Mine's gonna be

USC Growing up in Southern California When they were good In the early 2000s Couldn't stand their fans Couldn't stand here and about them Same thing as you Kind of with Texas

where they were always winning always on top and it just got annoying. I would even put for a long time the Cardinals baseball team up there because I was such a Cups fan but then I became an adult. And then you realize in professional sports

you just kind of go where they'll pay you now it's that way in college too but there's something about there's still like a little bit of romance about college and they're going to school and they have books yeah so Eddie you?

Yeah I'm not jumping on your bandwagon but I'm going to go Texas too but for a whole other reason because when I worked right next to the stadium they'd pee on my tires. all the tailgators, they'd get drunk and they'd pee on my tires after telling them, hey, stop pee in there!

Hated that crap. That might have been me once. Before I knew George. Reed? I think just LSU, mainly for my dad, and my dad hated LSU fans. I just feel like the LSU fans are so obnoxious in the sense that they're the type of people that would go to NFL game and wear LSU jerseys. That's funny.

Because they're just like, they're just going to cake everything they have, their house, their walls with LSU stuff. The cars. Literally. That's true. That's true. Gotta respect a super fan. Yep. Because if you're gonna hate them,

you're only hating them because you respect them. I feel like I see a lot of roll tide, especially around Nashville. And the more they win. There's a lot of bandwagon roll tide. I gotta say, people that, you know,

saw Alabama winning for years and years and kind of just, you know, maybe didn't go to school there, maybe didn't even grow up in Alabama, but they wanted to be a part of a winning program. That's my issue with Bama is there's so much bandwagon roll tide.

In my opinion. A little bit of bandwagon, Tennessee? Uh-oh. I know one They won They won over here Casey who do you hate Well Cuse is more of a basketball school

So North Carolina Is the team that we don't like NFL wise The Pats Yeah Yeah I would too if I were you Yeah

Yeah If I were the Jets Yeah Or the giant Any of the Northeast teams I would freaking hate you guys Just for all the winning you did Yeah

But most of the Jets Yeah Yeah That sucks That's fair Because you guys Yeah I think some of the Pats

hate has gone away with kind of the fall from grace too. Nobody hates a loser. It was a little reluctant to say it's a little different now. Why would we hate a loser? There's nothing to hate. I never hated the Chiefs until the last three years. Right. You just get annoyed by them because they win all the time. Although I don't hate the Chiefs. I didn't hate the Patriots. I rooted for the Patriots. I wasn't a fan.

But yeah, I liked I like dynasties because they're rare. And I thought it was so cool that we would see something. I love consistency. It doesn't matter what it's in. We were seeing consistency in just winning. Got lucky to see LeBron, got lucky to see Jordan,

got lucky to see the Patriots. There were a few of those. We didn't really get to see the Lakers do that. We were too young for that. Jack and Kobe. No, I'm talking about winning all the champions. Do you say the Patriots? I'm talking about the Celtics and Lakers against each other.

Do you say the Patriots or Tom Brady? The Patriots. Eddie, this is helping me kind of understand your attitude towards me lately as well. Oh boy. Oh, boy. Hey, as a Cowboys... He's the Dynasty, and he is.

As a Cowboys fan, George, like, who do you hate? Man, I would say probably the Eagles was always a tough one for us. Their fans love to rub our noses in it. Brutal fans. Yeah, commanders are tough for us, too. Yeah. What about the Niners?

Never really had a problem with the Niners. Really? Yeah. He's too young to see the Super Bowls. You know, you missed us. A while back. All right. I think we're done here.

to all your teams. Casey, you're done. I'm done. Yeah. But the Jets are going to win this game just to screw over the draft order thing because that's like kind of how they roll. Edie.

Bones, you don't think the Cowboys are done? I do now. Yeah, when we're done, right? I thought if you could win last week, I thought, I also, I was thinking Cooper Rush would be a little better, honestly. It was not. It was hard to watch.

Yeah, just based on the year before, was it a year before you want, two years. Now they're blaming it in on the sunlight and the stadium too. Me too, that's why I suck. But, you know, they're the Monday night game this week, and it's like, great, my Monday's wasted now. Battle of Texas, right? Do you want them to play Trey Lance?

Yeah, sure. I mean, let's see. Are you, you want them to lose? Let's see what he can do as a starter. I would love that. I agree. But are you doing that so you can see what he can do? Or are you doing that because you know what he can do and you'd rather just lose and get a better draft pick?

No, no, no, I want to see what he can do. Because, I mean, he does have a different game than Dak. That can't run the ball. So, Trey Lance, with the little weak offensive line that we have, he could make something out of it. And I'd like to see it if that's even possible. I guess, in Traylands can't throw the ball. So, like, if you combine their powers, you'd have an actual quarterback worth $50 million a year. Yeah.

Look at that. Yeah. Look at that. You guys follow George. Is it just at George Burge? At George Burge. We'll put in the notes. Where are you going today? I am headed out to, we're taking the bus out tonight, but we're headed out just around Chicago.

Yeah. Playing shows? Playing a little private show out there. See, hey. I love it. I love it. No, you don't love it. You don't love it.

You know, superstars play private shows. You know who doesn't get asked through private shows? Not Super Stars? Like us. Normies. We don't. Normies don't get asked to do that. You know it does?

Super SARS. Right. Congratulations, George. Thank you for being on with us. You guys go follow George. And I hope Arkansas beats Texas. But I have no expectation. But if I'm there, just know I had expectation.

I'm proud to be an honorary whistler today. Thank you. Yeah, man. How's everyone? Reid, are you sick? Yeah, I got a little stuffiness going. Do you hear that? What's up?

I don't know. Morgan had it on the plane. Yeah. So I don't know if I got it from her or the cold. Wasn't Bobby on the plane too? Yeah. You should record some music while your voice is like that man. It's got a little smoke to it man. There you go. Are you sick? No. Okay. Does he sound sick? No, but he's been, I know what's like to

travel all the freaking time and after you, and even when I text him, I was like, hey, come up because I was like, are you in town? He goes for just a few hours, whatever. I was like, never mind. We could see if you want to come up. He goes, I'm in. I'm in. No. I said, dude, I love you. So I would rather you not come in now because I know you're going to be exhausted. And he goes, no, I'm here. I'm coming up. I was like. I'm Like, okay, fine. I just know that sleeping on a bus.

Last night, it was actually weird air conditioning in your face. I did a casino show, which is like so easy for us. There's a million people helping. Everything's backlined and set up. It was all I had to do was play four songs.

I played four songs. And they gave me a box with a wedding cake on the way out. They're like, hey, just take this. And so I went up to my room and I ate a half a wedding cake and watched Green Mile and fell asleep by 10 o'clock.

It was a really good night. Green Mile is a weird movie. It gets weird than it should. Right. Out of nowhere. This is the first time I'd ever seen it and I had heard about it a million times. It's a great movie. Yeah.

But at one point you're like, it's real weird. You're like, wow, this is a really great timepiece of history. I really don't agree with how they used to treat people. This is not good. Oh my God, that's so weird. It ruins anything you might have learned. Yeah. Like you're actually learning like, wow, why there are certain aspects of our country that we're not good.

It's certain people. And you're like, wow, I'm taking this for a good book. Oh my God, that's too weird. And you forget everything you just learned over the past hour and a half. Like my son was like, dad, what's another good Tom Hanks movie? being like, oh, we need to see Green Mile. And then I thought, like, you know what? No, we don't.

You're good to pass on that one. After watching it, that was my first time to see it last night. I'm a Tom Hanks super fan, right? Me too. Yeah. I wouldn't put that one up at the top. Have you seen From, the TV show from? No.

Anybody else? Not yet. No, Reed has. No, Reed's one who was, so Caitlin says last night, because we were recording a podcast, and my wife never does anything. She happened to come down and she owes me some episodes from losing bets. I never cash them in, but she had walked down.

I was just read nine in the studio because we were trying to go live on YouTube, and she was like, hey, what's up? So she sits down, I was like, you want, I said, you want me some episodes? You want to go live? She's like, yeah, sure, whatever. And so I was surprised, so I take advantage of it, and we're talking. And she's like, you know, we're talking about TV shows. She goes, I want to watch that show from.

And I'm like, I never heard of it. And she's great at picking shows. And read, automatically gets a boner. And we're like, yeah. That's weird. It's good show, man. We're like, what's that for? And he goes, from the show.

With the voice to do it, man. Oh, man. Turns in the Elvis. That's a good show, man. and so she had already been told it was good and she was in and the read was like you will love it and so we watched the first episode last night did you like it I gotta admit it took me like three episodes

oh no after the first episode I was like two two things I was like I didn't want to be scared I hate scary stuff pretty creepy and at one point there's something that happens or I go ah I kind of like that and she can't like we're not gonna make it through this are we I couldn't even watch twilight because I had nightmares what's the plot on on this from thing Don't spoil.

I can tell you only what I know because I've only seen one episode. Okay. Because I don't feel like I'm spoiling because I can't because I haven't seen anything. Yeah.

By the way, I'm obsessed with going to watch the next episode if you want to know how my brain I cannot wait. Well, you got two more seasons after the one year. There's a small town and what I know is

when it's starting to get dark the sheriff walks through ringing a bell until everybody to get in the house. There's something that lives in the woods. I'm in already. That's so cool. I'm in already. Me too.

Yeah, there's something that lives in the woods. Or it may not be the woods. I don't know if I've only seen one episode, that comes out and just F's with people. And they can, like, apparently look like people you know or something. When you say, F with people, like, kill them. Yeah. What platforms is on? We watch it on Amazon.

Okay. But it says it's on MGM Plus, and we're like, we don't have this one. Oh, I'd try it on Amazon. You do? Yeah. So we're one F's, I can't, it's a soft of shit read. Mm-hmm. I'm all caught up.

Like, now I just gotta wait on Sundays. And you can say, haven't made it through the whole thing, like you were satisfied that you watch it. It's so good. All I'll see that. Which I love, like, we. Weird sci-fi kind of shows, too. And it's like a little bit of creepy, a little bit of sci-fi, and like, you just keep showing your toes.

I love it. It's listed as a horror sci-fi. The horror part's tough for me. If they would just would have said like weird slash sci-fi, it's totally for me. Weird. Is horror okay year-round or is it just like Halloween at time? Well. Hey, man.

Horror. Whatever you want, Horrid. A superstar. You're the artist. Yeah. Never for me. I don't like scary stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't mind zombies because I feel like that could probably really happen. So I justify that. Scary stuff. You can think about it for way too long after you watch it, which I don't like. It consumes my life. Like I don't like Jason, Freddie. I never watched any of that. I don't like scary stuff. Yeah, that's not good. But I think generally, I don't watch scary movies, so I can't answer that. Reid, what do you think? Horror all day, all night? I love it, man. I don't get into the demonic stuff because praise Jesus, but, you know. But like that sort of stuff, like creepy stuff in the woods, like kind of zombie-ass.

I love that stuff. We should go to our movie expert, guys, before we leave. Literally. Yeah, we're talking about movies. Literally. Movie, Mike, what's the deal with horror movies? Horror is good all year round. I'm into the demonic stuff.

But yeah, unless it's, like, completely focused on, like, Halloween. Like, this is a Halloween movie. That's just around Halloween. Everything else, it's year-round. Because there's different types of horror. There's modern horror. There's sci-fi horror. Very true.

Lots of horror. Fried shrimp, bull-thri-thri. Go-low shrimp. I hope any genres of horror. He goes, I think that's about it. Rainin up, raining sideways. All right, thank you guys. Betty Blow the Whistle.

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