25W: Kickoff Kevin & Reid Operate for the Final Super Bowl Ticket! + 3x Super Bowl Champion Daryl Johnston
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02:49see dkng.orgaslash audio.Blow the whistle.Thank you.Daryl Johnston.Moose.Moose.Coming up just a little bit.That's amazing.
03:17I only got him for you.Dude, I mean, that's so cool.He was so awesome back in the 90s.Every time I see a cowboy guest come in on the calendar, I'm like,is this ready?It literally is.There are some guests offered up, and I thought, if we're going to talk,we want to talk to somebody we're interested in.
03:33And some of them were just like former players, and that's all cool.But, like, Daryl Johnson's been at the Super Bowl.He's also a cowboy.He's also a commentator.You know, he's also an executive at the U.S.Which is starting right when the NFL's over.He was a great commentator.Yeah, super smart.
03:48Like weirdly because you think like, oh, football players, like, come on, what are they?You think big dumb fullback.Yeah, but he's, yeah, intelligent guy.That's coming up in just a few minutes.All right, around the room, Eddie, what do you have?So, you know, we're going to the Super Bowl, and obviously I told my kids, and they're super excited.They're like, Dad, we cannot believe you're going to the Super Bowl.Then I told him, like, hey, you know, we're doing, like, a bunch of interviews, too,
04:08so we're going to hang out with Emmett and Dion and Nico Collins.And so the question came up.Dad, like, could you get a couple things signed for us?Like, they have Emmett Smith cards, Dallas Cowboys football and stuff like that.And I was like, you know, it's not really our thing.That's Reeds thing, mostly.That is Reeds thing.That is Reeds thing.
04:29I said I'd ask.And I pretty much know the answer, I think.Yeah, the answer is no.We can't be the adults.They're working, asking the players to sign stuff.Mr. Smith, we signed this.If you had a kid, that's fine.Okay, so I take my kids with me.
04:44You don't want to be those people for the most partBecause then if we do it again next yearIt's like who are they going to avoidThe autograph weirdosYeahI mean like if it's part of a bitBut yeah if you're just like bringing merchJust probably
04:56Like my kids were likeFake signs and stuffThey were dead seriousLike dad dad dad like I mean honestly likeDo you think I can just go up to M and be like hey manThis is for my kidsSigned four of theseI think you could not where we're going to be broadcasting
05:08But if you see them out somewhere elseAnd you're not with usYou're just a weird adultOh yeahYou just can as like part of thisoperation unless you'reReedCoach Musk
05:17we sign my hatI feel like too much accessis more intimate thoughyou knowbecause we're likeit's just us and themversus likebeing an NFL thing
05:26you knowwhat are you talking aboutlike asking for autographslike when we do itwith too muchoh so you're sayingyou're giving an excuse for yoursyeah
05:32oh no it was so awkwardthat was so awkwardit was so awkwardwe're likein coach Musselman'syeahofficeand Reed like pulls
05:41a hat out of his bagand like will you sign thisand we weren't even like leavinglike that should be thefirst of allI don't like it anywayHe was already signing somethingbut if
05:50it should be the very very last thingso you don't have to like have them sign somethinghang outI haven't done it againyou know I'll learn my lessonyeah a year later you're still getting crap forthat's probably whyso I would go
06:01no as part of this batterybut if you see them at Chili'sright then I can have them sign all the cards and stuffwalk up with the whole thingKevin what do you haveyeah I got a questionfor you. At what point do we just get rid of the Pro Bowl? Because, listen, love Drake May,love my Patriots, but this week he was named to the Pro Bowl. And I'm like, really?
06:24Drake May to the Pro Bowl? And Mac Jones did this a couple years ago. And I'm like, really,Mac Jones? And I get it. All these quarterbacks opt out, Josh Allen and Lamar. They're like,I don't need that. I'm not going to go. So they got to plug somebody in. But it's like,at what point do we just say, you know what, guys, I'm good. I don't think we really need to dothe Pro Bowl anymore. They just need bodies for the Tug of War. That's a fun event.So now, you know, they don't play the game anymore, obviously. So it's all just show up and do field day.She doesn't have to do field day back in elementary school? That's the best. Three-legged race.Yeah, that's basically what they're doing down there. And they just need warm bodies. And so it's next one up.
06:58And the players love it because sometimes that's an incentive in their contract. So if you're Drake, May, you're probably also going, you know what, I probably don't deserve to go to the Pro Bowl if it's like the first three quarterbacks.in your contract,Pro Bowl incentive, $300,000.Of course, you're now a Pro Bowl quarterback.I get that part of it.But it's like, we can always just say,hey, they made the Pro Bowlso you can put it on their resume or whatever.
07:23The Pro Bowl is just a weird thing anyway.It's at a bad time.Yeah.Because everything, look at basketball and look at baseball.Mid-season.Can't really do that with footballbecause you let people get hurtif you're playing the game.
07:33It's just a different animal.It just should be on awards banquet.That's literally the only break NFL has, right?Because there's no break in the middle of the seasonand then they just have this one week before the Super Bowl,and they're like, there you go?Yeah, it's kind of the end of the season.Yeah.
07:47Where, again, baseball and basketball, if you're an all-star, you play, and then you go back.Right.Where NFL, it's over.Everybody wants to go on their vacations.They're out of the playoffs.Yeah.Last thing they want to go do is go do hopscotch competition.Yeah, I feel like unless you have like a sponsorship that you're going there for
08:02and getting paid more, that's about it.But I mean, he had 15 touchdowns and 10 interceptions this year, and it's like, yeah, Pro Bowl.Hey, it's pretty good.For a rookie, he's pretty good.Oh, yeah, I love Drake.He'll make plenty of Pro Bowls.Don't get me wrong.But this year I was like, kind of, ah, all right.
08:17We're thinking about the Super Bowl, and we've had parties at our house,and we're not this year because we're going to be there.You guys like to have Super Bowl parties now, or have you grown out of them?Would you rather go, have one or not at all?Eddie?I mean, it's different for me, right?Because, like, I have four kids now.Now it's, like, an experience for them.
08:33It's not for me.Back in the day, it was like, we're going to go to a party.They're going to have a bunch of beer.We're going to get drunk.And then next thing you know the game's over, it's 9 o'clock, you're like, dang, dude, it's like, it's Sunday.I got work in the morning.I feel terrible.That's not my life anymore.
08:44Now it's like, all right, the kids are there.We tell them to invite their friends and then their parents come over and then we do bingo cards.The kid's Super Bowl party.It's totally just a family-friendly Super Bowl party, which I love, dude.It's a lot of fun.We're not doing it this year.Not because I'm going to be at the Super Bowl, baby.That's amazing.
09:01What about you?No kids yet?No kids yet.I'd rather go to somebody's house, but nothing crazy.I don't need a crazy party.I would almost even just rather sit at my place with my fiance and watch it,just like any other big Sunday football games so I can focus,especially with the team I really care about.
09:16So I'd rather go somewhere if I were to choose.I think I'd rather do nothing.That's what I've done the last couple of years.Just watch it, order the food that I want.And if you're going to order food from a delivery service,you have to order way ahead.It's almost like Valentine's Day.If you're not already thinking about what you're going to do right now...
09:33That's coming up.Yeah.And today's the...This will be on the 30.first. If you're not already thinking about it right now, you're not going to get anything good.Kevin already forgot. Yeah. Two weeks. And not that it's the most important or not that you have to,but it's the same with food on Super Bowl night unless you're going to the grocery store.Like if you try to order barbecue or something, they're backed up forever. So you've got to get ahead of that game.
09:55What's your favorite Super Bowl food then to order? If you could order one thing.Pizza is just easiest. Yeah. I mean, that just goes with the territory. You got to have pizza there.I just try to talk myself out of eating anything bad at the beginning of the game because ifIf I do that, I'm through it.It's like the movies.If I get a bunch of crap, I eat it before the movie even starts.So it's like I get candy, popcorn.When the movie's finally coming on, I'm full and bloated.
10:17Yes.So.But yes, as of now, our crew, we are going to the Super Bowl.All of us?We're all going there.I didn't say going in.But so far, the person who does not have a ticket is Kevin or Reed.So I do have another game today that we're going to play.
10:36Let's go.And so this is just going to be, because the loser is out.You do not have a ticket.You are going, you have to work.It's going to be awesome because we're going to have fun,meaning it's a couple days of interviewing great players.But the loser is not going to have a ticket to get in the game.And I looked at resale right now.
10:55They're like $6,000.And I'm not paying for that.You're leaning into that like, guess what, guys?I wasn't going to ask.Good.because you won't like my answerso we're going to do one gameof the three today
11:12and on Monday we'll wrap it upwait oh man it's even prolongedso it's not it's not based on one gameit's based on three gamesit's going to be best of threebecause I don't want the person who loses todayto be out of it going into the weekendof course we don't want that
11:29Casey would you mind going to my office and grabbing that gamebring it in here yeah soin my office I have the game operationOh, my goodness.That game is so hard.Do you drink coffee this morning?Yeah.I haven't had coffee, so.
11:42Good or bad?Good.I'm not as shaky.Yeah, it's good.So we're going to put an operation down on the table.This is the one where you have to, you're a doctor and you have to pinch the little stuff out of there.Oh, my gosh.And if you touch the edge, it shocks you?
11:56Yes.What just happened?Did you shock yourself?No, no, no.I'm like shaking my hands, getting them ready.Got it.My wrist loose.So we will be playing off.
12:05operation coming up in a few minutes.This is awesome.And someone will go down a point.So it's best of three.Yes, and this is just game one.I got it.We also, Mike, if you can turn that microphone on over here, I want to hear it.Because operation has gotten a little quieter.
12:19Oh, really?It doesn't go, eh?It does, but not near as loud.Is that mic on Casey?Hello?Okay.So it's more of a vibe right now.Oh, yeah, yeah.
12:30So as they play, we're also going to have a judge standing by to make sure the nose doesn't light up.Okay.So Eddie would be running cameras.Casey, you'll probably be the judgeand reading Kevin.I'm not even sure, do you get other cards?I think you draw a card and it tells me which one you have to go for.Okay, so, operation coming up.
12:48And there are some body parts that are easier to get than others, I think.Oh yeah, you don't want that wishbone, man.I got to read the rules here.Okay, for the most part.Okay. Do you have a commercial?We're good. We're good? Okay.All right, let's take a break.We'll come back with Daryl Johnston and then we will play Operation.
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16:39And listen now.Now let's go over to three-time Super Bowl champion, Darryl Johnston,aka Moose.He's now the executive VP of Football Operations for the UFL.So we talk about that.We talk about the weeks leading up to the Super Bowl, a few other things.Obviously, a bunch of Cowboys fans on this show.So let's talk.
16:59Here he is.Daryl Johnston.If I'm correct, Jeff, three rings.Where do you keep the rings?How often do you flex them for your friends?They're tucked away.I don't wear them a lot.I even forgot to happen on yesterday, which, you know, I'm halfway out to Arlington.
17:12And I'm like, oh, my God, you know, one of those occasions where you really like to have that Super Bowl ring on your finger.And I left it at home in the safe.If, like, cousins are coming over, do you pull them out?Because you know they're going to want to ask to see them, right?The Super Bowl ring, believe it or not, one of the cool things that Jerry Jones did for us was he gave us replica Super Bowl trophies.So the one that everybody wants to see, because those are out on display in my office.So when people come over and they see that, they always want a picture taken with the replica Lombardi trophy.So that probably gets a little bit more attention than the ring, believe it or not.
17:51But yeah, once they see the trophy, then they ask about the ring.So get the picture with both of them.Before you played ball at Syracuse and you were in high school, were you like the ultimate athlete?Did you play every position?Yeah, high school was fun.Small high school.gosh, if I was to think about our total roster,we might have had 27 guys, you know, total on our roster.
18:11And with that, you know, we had, you know, probably, you know,a significant amount of those 27 were playing both waysoffensively and defensively.So, you know, being from a small town and being on a, you know,kind of that small stage of football, I was a running back.I was a outside linebacker.I punted.I kicked.
18:33So, but that was all because of, you know, growing up as a kid, the punt passing kick competitions.You know, I competed in those and I actually made it all the way down to the AFC finals one year.So I was one, I was one, went away from going to the Super Bowl and probably had the worst punt I have ever done in my entire life.How long was it?The big, the Almodo.When they went all the way out and then they started bringing it back along the straight line, it was creeping closer and closer towards me.it probably netted about 25 yards.Yeah, that's about max for me though.
19:07Yeah, that would have been my total.So in college, when did it start to transition like your role?Because you ran the ball, but then at some point, obviously they knew you could block and play the fullback position.When did that start to fill for you?The big thing for me in Syracuse was we were an option-based offense.So, you know, the fullback is going to get the first read on everything.So we ran, we ran.So we ran a number of different ways to do the option.
19:32and then part of that was also some of the power game that you see in today's NFL,you know, the pin and polls and things like that.So we were very versatile.So, you know, for me as a fullback, it allowed me, you know, to show my ability as a ball carrier,to show my ability as a blocker, even as a pass receiver.Not a whole lot, but, you know, a few opportunities there.So it was funny when I came to Dallas and became the fullback in that offense.And there's not really a lot of opportunity to carry the football.
20:02And, you know, people kind of look back at some of my college stats and they didn't realize, you know, that I had over 100 carries, you know, every season, you know, I was a starter at Syracuse.So when I left Syracuse University, I was, I was in the top 10 rushing of all time.And I mean, that's Jim Brown, Floyd Little, you know, Larry Zonka.And I was kind of hanging in there with them.I'm not in there anymore.But when I graduated in 1989, I was in the top 10 in rushing.These guys now before the Super Bowl, they have two weeks.when you were playing, did they have the two-week gap or was it just a one-week gap?
20:35We actually had both. We had a two-week gap.And then we also had in our second Super Bowl in Atlanta, we had a one-week gap.And that was actually the game, the championship game, Troy got a concussion.So that was very challenging.That was a quick turnaround.The two weeks would have been huge for us that year.But we were on that one-week schedule that season.And if you go back and watch that game, that's why Emmett Smith was the MVP in that
21:01game. We really lean heavily on the run game to make sure that Troy was okay in the pocketand was going to be able to finish that game and didn't take any unnecessary hits.So then my assumption is you like the two week better than the one. It gave everybody a chanceto rest and get healthy. Well, rest and get healthy and then logistically, how much you have to do.You know, when you have the two weeks, you win the championship game, you get your ticketallotment, you find out what all that is. You can start to work on bringing family and friendsto the game. You know, that gives them the opportunity to coordinate.flights, hotels.
21:33There are so many things to go on besides the game in that short week that made it really,really challenging.And it was very different back then, you know, Tuesday was Media Day.And both teams kind of alternated, you know, during the course of Tuesday.So your arrival day was Monday.You just played the game Sunday.I think we were actually late that year.So we were the second game on championship Sunday.
21:59So you're getting a late start.really no time to celebrate.I mean, you're going right into planning mode.And then you're on a flight, you know, the next morning to head down to the host city, you know, to get in, get settled and then boom, you hit the ground running on Tuesday.So the one week was really challenging.And from virtually every perspective you can think of.And I'm sure it was challenging for the NFL as well, you know, kind of getting all those assets, you know, off of championship locations down into the host city.that was being prepped. So, yeah, I'm glad they've moved to that two-week window and really made that kind of the staple now.
22:38Because having done them both ways, I would never wish upon anybody, you know, that one-week time frame,especially as big as the game has gotten now and how many logistical things that they're going to have to deal with.My friend here in the studio who's wearing a sling, broken arm, but he is a massive Cowboys fan, been his whole life.And so, Eddie, I'd like for you to meet my friend, Daryl.What's up, Daryl? Good to meet you, man.What'd you do with the arm?It's not a good story.I went roller skating with my kids.
23:06It was my youngest kid's birthday, and I fell.We were racing, and I fell, broke my radius bone.Did you put the arm out to brace?I did.I tried to fall on my hands, but I guess the force kind of made a little snap right here.Anyway, that's not important, Daryl.Here's the important question.One of my favorite things in the world when you were playing was to yell moose every single time you got the ball.
23:30did you like that?There was no social media then.So for me, it was just I heard other people do it.So I started doing it.But when did that like start?And did you even like it?It's funny because a lot of people think that the nickname followed me from Syracuse.But it actually originated in Dallas.
23:50Babe Laufenberg was one of our backup quarterbacks.And when we started practice, you go through team stretch and then you go into individualperiod.and the running backs for individualor all the way downin the opposite end of the fieldin the corner.And we were usually the last group
24:06that came all the way back upto the front end of the fieldto get ready to workoffensive group,which is everybody about the offensive line.So as we were jogging down the field,everybody else was kind of waiting for us.So, you know, Babe always said
24:20when you guys head this way,you look like a moose walking in a field of deerbecause I was 6'2, 2, 245.my backup fullback at that time Broderick Sargent was was a shorter stockier build.He was he was probably, you know, 5 foot 10, 240-ish.You know, and then all the running backs, you know, at that time were under 6 foot as well.So I would, it's 6 foot 2, you know, coming that way, you know, just looked a little bit larger than everybody else.So just this innocent comment like that, you know, became the genesis of the nickname.
24:51And then it got on to local radio.Brad Sham, who did the Cowboy Games on radio,started to use it during his broadcasts.And then Troy shared it with John Madden during a production meeting before a game one time.And then John used it on the broadcast.And that was the end of Daryl.And Moose was the moniker.And I kind of differentiate between people if they call my name,
25:23if they call Daryl or D.J. especially,because DJ means that's a call.connection. Somehow there's a connection to college as somebody calls me DJ. But if it's a moose,then it definitely comes to the Dallas area. So just by being summoned, I know kind of the timeframe of when we should have met. Were the 90s just the best time of your life? Because I mean,you were winning. We were winning. And like, I feel like the Cowboys and anyone on the Cowboys wasjust on top of the world in the mid-90s. Yeah, I had a heck of a run even going back into the late 80s.you know, at Syracuse, we got on a role my junior and senior year.
26:01We were 11 and 0.My junior year got tied in the Sugar Bowl by Auburn and finished 11-0 and 1.My senior year, we ended up 10 and 2, had two horrible games during the course of the season,played terrible at Ohio State, played terrible at West Virginia.I think we had 11 turnovers total in both of those games.But we ended up beating LSU in the Hall of Fame games.So had two really good seasons in Syracuse to wrap up my college career.and then boom walk into one and 15.
26:29So it was a big adjustment.And then you started to see the talent that was on that roster.And then just the way that Jimmy was going to build it.I'm a big culture guy.I still think the football players need a lot of discipline.You know, we're young boys in a big body, you know, playing a violent game.And we need a little bit of that thumb on the top.So you could see a lot of these pieces coming together.
26:56and Norv Turner was really that final piece that we brought in getting ready for the 91 season.So, yeah, once we got on a roll there, it was just, it was a unique time when you really kind of look at all those players and all those coaches coming together at that one point in time and then being able to max out that opportunity.I think that's one of the things that you see that sometimes doesn't happen is all these different things are coming together.and you see a group not maximize that opportunity for one reason or another.And I'll always be proud of our guys for really kind of recognizing what was happeningand maximizing that opportunity and winning those three super goals in four years.The Chiefs going for a three-peat, something you guys almost, how hard is that to just repeat,much less three-peat?
27:47Yeah, well, just getting to the game.That was one of the things that I hadn't really spent a whole lot of time like digging into.but when you go back and you look at the Packersand the Steelers twice and us,the Patriots, the Broncos,you know,all these teams that had that opportunityto win three in a row,
28:05none of us made it back to that third Super Bowl.They're the first team to actually make it backto the Super Bowl to have the opportunityto win three in a row.So, you know,that just by itself is a tremendous feebecause that's never been done before.So there's a little bit of,
28:21there's a little bit of skill.there's a little bit of luck. Again, it's Kansas City maximizing the opportunity that's been presented to them, you know, with Andy Reed as the head coach and Steve Spagnolo is the defensive coordinator and Patrick Mahomes as your guy. And you've watched that team kind of shift and change during Patrick's career. And you've watched that team shift and adjust to what the changes are and still be able to stay on top of the AFC West,of the AFC conference and really the NFL.So it's been very impressive because one of the things that that generated the changeto free agency was the prevention of the dynastic teams, you know, what we had in Dallas.We were, we were half of my career the old business way, which was draft and develop and not a lotof player movement back and forth to the second half of my career, free agency, where, you know,you can get better quickly and you saw a lot of worse to first scenarios in several divisions
29:26where teams, you know, drafted well, but then also signed free agents well.And all of a sudden, you've got this really, really good gen, uh, jelling of talent.Um, you know, that, that is something that's really hard to do in today's NFL.And for Kansas City to be able to do that year after year.And you go back and just watch the transformation when it's, you know, Patrick in the earlydays of his career with Tyreek and all those guys on the offensive side of the ball, it wasthe offense and they were explosive and you're going to have to outscore them. Well, now it'sthe defense and it's Patrick understanding if I just don't make critical mistakes and turn
29:59the ball over, this group has got a great opportunity to win the game because we can lean on ourdefense now. And Steve Spagnolo has done a great job over the last two, three seasons as they'veadjusted, it kind of gone through this change. So that's one of the most impressive things for mefor Kansas City as they sit here, you know, on the threshold of doing something that nobody'sever done before in the Super Bowl era. What did you think of Coach Schotenheimer?getting the promotion to Dallas.I like Brian as a man.You know, it's, I don't know him well as a coach.
30:29I do know the history and the lineage of the name, especially.Marty Schaunheimer is one of my favorite guys.You know, always enjoy playing against his teams.They were always physical.You coached very, very well, very disciplined.So all the things that I talked about with Jimmy, you know,that's something that Brian's been around.I'm interested to see what he does with this opportunity.
30:48You know, it's his first time, you know, as a head coach in the NFL.I don't think it's a risky hire.You know, when Jerry talked about that,you know, a lot of these coaches, you know,go through that similar process.You know, at some point you've got to be a first time head coach.You know, Jacksonville is doing it with Liam Cohen.There's risk there for them to bring in, you know, Liam Cohen.
31:07So this is something that's kind of become, you know,it's the process, you know, when you get to the NFL.At some point, you've got to go out and hire a first time, you know, NFL head coach.You know, Jerry did it with Jimmy in an unconventional way,bringing a guy from the college ranks out.and had tremendous success.And I think that that's the point that he's trying to make.You know, when I step outside of the box and do something a little bit differently,
31:28you know, I have reaped rewards when I've done that.So, you know, that'll be something that he's going to be able to, you know, talk to the media about.But I think it's been one of those things.I think what has happened with Dallas.And for the first time, I really, I saw Michael Irvin as critical as I've seen Michael,who's been a great ambassador for, you know, the Dallas Cowboys.you know, in his in his post-career days.Even him a little bit frustrated.
31:56And sure, he wanted Dion Sanders,who's a good friend of his to have that opportunity.But that's the first time I've seen Michael, you know, that frustrated.So, you know, that's kind of really the microcosm of the entire fan base.And, you know, I think the perspective that everybody looks at it and not a knock on Brian Schottenheimer,but if we're going to stay status quo, why didn't we stay status quo with Mike McCarthy at the top?So I think that that's the one thing that everybody walks away after that announcement is the question of if the real incentive was not to have a lot of change so we could continue to move forward with what we have in place now.Why wouldn't we have just stayed with Mike McCarthy?
32:39I do like the Matt Eberflushire.You know, I've always been a fan of his defenses have always been very, very productive, very, very challenging.We had the Chicago Bears several times this year,and we had them after Matt was fired as head coach,and there was a new defensive coordinator that was kind of installing and doing the game planning.And, you know, part of this defense is allowing the players to play fast,which means we're not going to complicate things.I think Matt always adds enough.
33:09I think he straddles that line really, really well where it's a fundamental defense,and it's got its strengths, and we allow our players to play fast.But we do have a couple of wrinkles that are going to challenge you offensively.And I think really at the end there, you know, Chicago kind of oversimplified that.And maybe lost a little bit of that creativity that Matt brings to it.But but I thought that that was a good hire by Brian.And I think it's going to be interesting to see, you know, how they pair it together.But, you know, I think the big question the fan base has is if we're going to stay in-house, you know,
33:39why didn't we just stay with Coach McCarthy?This UFO headquarters is 100,000 square feet.What the heck is in this thing?Is this multiple like locker rooms, facilities, everything?Over 100,000 square feet,we could actually use a little bit moreif truth was to be told.Really what this one is going to be
33:57is going to be where kind of the day-to-day is for all of our players.So it's two floors,and there's four pods on each floor.So we've got all of our eight teamsalmost as equitable as you could have.So kind of the shared space is making sure everybody's kind of working offthat same format.So meeting room.
34:17We're going to put some training rooms in there as well.Meals will be delivered to HQ.So really everything that we're doing there on a player day-to-day schedule is going to be handled at HQ.We'll travel out to our practice sites that are in the DFW area.Our weight room is at Choctaw.Our performance center is at Choctaw.And that's a short walk from HQ.So we've really been able to consolidate everything where all of our eight teams will be
34:47you know, kind of in one location where last year we had them kind of closer to their practicefacility. So if you were a Dragon Stadium in South Lake, your meeting spaces were out that way.And then that forced you to kind of, you know, look for your housing, you know, during the courseof the season out towards the South Lake area. If you were in Mansfield, you kind of set up yourhome base out in that direction. So this is bringing everybody together into the Arlington area.And it really helps us because that allows us to move back and forth.from team to team, you know, much easier than we had to last year.What's the relationship with the NFL and is it positive or talked about now where it wasn't
35:26in the past? Like, what is that working relationship?They've been great, you know, to the UFL. They were great to us and legacy USFL.They were great to legacy XFL. You know, the NFL has always been a good partner to all thespring leagues, you know, going all the way back to the Alliance of American Football withBill Polian and his connections back into the NFL. So, you know,There's always been a friendly relationship when you talk about the National Football League with anybody that's kind of popped up on that spring landscape.So we are sharing technology.We are working together with rules.
35:59We work with them on player health and safety.You know, Troy Vincent was at our opening yesterday in the celebration for UFL HQ.He's one of our big points of contact, you know, into the NFL when you talk about Park Avenue in New York City.So it's been a really, really good relationship.And when you look at the football side of who we have in the UFL,when you talk about a Russ Branden, you talk about Rush Gillio and Doug Whaleyand all these guys that have spent years and years working with in and around the NFL,you know, we've all established really, really good connections.
36:35And then we've got Jim Pop, who's got a lot of experience in the CFL,but also work back and forth, you know, giving us a different perspective of, you know,the relationship with the NFL.So we're very blessed to have a number of people who've already had an established relationship working with the NFL as we all come together and work in the UFL.When do people start reporting?I think pitchers and catchers in the spring.So when did the players come in to this new facility and you guys start what we can start following?Yeah, the players are going to arrive on February 27th.
37:04We'll go through onboarding 28, 29.Still trying to figure out what we're going to do with them on Sunday.We got a little bit of downtime.So we'll kind of work through some different things.maybe get a lot of the kind of that that busy work that we can get knocked out at that time,let the coaches have their first opportunity to really sit down with their teams in the new facility.I think that that's going to be one of the more exciting things too is, you know,being able to give them kind of a blank canvas in these spaces and then watch what they do
37:36as they kind of put their own spin on what the Michigan Panthers want to do,on what the Arlington Renegades want to do, you know, what is that space going toto look like, you know, when that team is all done with it. So we're excited to have that.And then the first day of practice is going to be Monday, March 3rd.Finally, what's been fulfilling about being an executive that maybe you didn't think would beas fulfilling as it is?You start to find the joy in the game and not what you do, but what in others do.And this goes all the way back to, you know, 2019 with my time in the Alliance of American
38:10Football or 2020.with my time in the XFL in the first iteration.You know, there's a couple of guys that are still in the NFL today, you know,from those teams that I was the general manager of.And you take a lot of pride in the fact that you've changed the trajectory of a youngman's life now that he's spent four years, five years with an NFL salary,as opposed to, you know, a spring football salary.that's a substantial difference.
38:43So that makes you feel good.And accounting for Legacy, USFL, Legacy XFL, and then last season as the UFL, we've got 38 guys that we've put back into the NFL on 53-man rosters.And as we talked about, that is life-changing for a young man when you talk about the financial impact that that's going to have on him.Well, always exciting to have more football, but more high-level football.Like, that's what the real excitement is, I think, for us football fans.and congratulations on the growth and the continued maturation,and we really appreciate the insight.You know, big fans of you.
39:18Thank you, Daryl, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon.Congratulations, and have a great rest of the day.Thank you very much.I appreciate it.This ain't no little bitty, itty bitty teeny bowl.This is the Super Bowl.I'm talking about Super Bowl 59.Get in on the action at Draft King's Sportsbook,
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43:17For Super Bowl ticketsReed and Kevin will both be playingTrying to pull parts out of the bodyYou'll have two minutes to get as many pieces out as possibleWhat we're going to do is the personIt's not going has to leave the room thoughAnd not watchAnd not know the street
43:34Reed don't touch anythingSome of these are like tucked awayYeahSo I'm going to flip the coin hereReed calling the air heads or tailsHe says tailsIt is tailsIt's the back of the buffalo
43:45do you want to go first or second?Okay. Kevin, if you'll leave the room.You can hop in my office.You just can't watch a screen.Oh, man.So we're going to put two minutes upon the clock.Mike, do we have any music?Let's see.
44:02And Reed, once you pull it out, please let us know what it is.Casey will be sitting over there with you.And if the nose lights up, you must drop it again.Okay.Copy that.I think, too, if it lights up, you have to drop it and wait three seconds.Until we say go back.Okay.
44:17Yeah, sit there.If it lights up,tell them to drop it.You hear that, Casey?Yeah.Reid, are you ready?I'm ready.Two minutes on the clock.
44:27Go.Reed's going for the bottom.What did you got there?Rubber band off the leg.Good.There's one.Shaked.Casey, put that microphone near his face.
44:41Oh, I'm shaking.Reed's hand is shaking.Wow.What did you get there, Reed?Got another one.That is a...I don't even know what kind of bone that.It's a wrench or something.
44:50Okay.Come on, baby.Do you need Casey to move...So you can see, Eddie?No, we're good.Okay.Do your other hand, Casey,so it's not in front of the camera.
45:0130 seconds down.What's that?It's a humorous?I don't know.All this is tough.Oh, no, I dropped it.Oh, it lit up.Drop it, lit up.
45:15I saw it light up.Three seconds.One, that one's locked away.Two, three, back in.It lit up again.Three seconds.One, two, three, back in.What are you going for over there?
45:27He's going for a rib.He got it successfully.He got the rib.How many parts do you have right now?We got four parts.Wow, good job.Up, drop.Oh, I touched the...
45:38One, two, three, back in.A minute 15 down.He dropped the piece.He got it.What is that?Looks like the funny bone.30 seconds left.One, two, three, back in.
46:00Come on, read, focus.These are impossible.He keeps putting in and pulling out.That's the trick.That's the trick.He has 15 seconds left.He's going for the butterfly.Six seconds.
46:23Okay, you got that one.Ooh, good job.Four, three, two, time.What did you give up?You gave up with two seconds left.I'm happy with that.I'm happy.Well, I hit it, so I was going to wait three seconds.
46:34Oh, got it.So it's like the runoff of the clock.He had to run off 10 seconds.Casey, what does he have down there?All right, we got six pieces here.We got some tooth thing.What is this?A ribbone?
46:50Okay.Yeah, it looks like a rib bone.We got a funny bone.What is the butterfly?A wrench of some sort here.I mean, guys, it's a game.The butterfly's probably in the stomach because you're nervous.Some kind of hamstring.
47:01Okay.All right.There's a six pieces.Six total.Okay.Good job, guys.Casey, if you'll put them back in.I will.
47:07Reed.Good.Because all those other ones are like.tucked away they're impossible hey six is pretty good i'd sayyou can retire to the other room read my hand was so like dude you were shakingyeah i know it was like i was not shaking beforehand and then when i go to this i'm just likethink think about what a real surgeon has to go through oh no chance man did they drink coffeethey probably like do surgery for super bowl tickets huh no let's just do for live in
47:31try to buy their own yeah try to buy their own okay i'm out of here go let's bring kevin inhe does not know the rules yetis Casey good for the camerais he fineit's in thereit's good we made it workokayall right come on in Kevin
47:48Casey's comingcan you move the game backwhere it was thoughdon't tell himhow many you gotI won't say it workman good thing Casey's therebecause I didn't even hear
48:01the vibratingI see the nose light upis what I sawalright Kevinwe're not gonna tell youhow many read gotyou're gonna have two minuteson the clock
48:08and you're gonna pull out as manyas you possibly can. And please describe it as you're going, like what you're going for.If it lights up, you have to release for three seconds before you can go back in.Okay. Kevin, have you ever played this game before?Yes. In my lifetime, yes. Okay. In the last 20 years? No. Got it. Yeah.Tell us when you're ready. And I'll start the clock. And on your cue, when you grab the tweezers, we go.You could put the mic. And here he goes. And he's on.Clock is started. It's going for something in the middle. Oh, light up.
48:43up one, two, three, go back in.He's going into like the stomach.Oh, he's moving on from the stomach.I mean, his first dig was a red light, so that's not good.Not a good start.He's in one of the easier ones now that may be like to, oh, ah, you're out, dropping.You're hurting the patient.Two, three, back in.
49:04This patient better be on a lot of anesthesia.He's in.He got something.Okay, he got it.He got the funny bone.That's a clean pick.The funny bone is out.38 seconds down.
49:18What's he at now?He's going for the wrench.The wrench down of the ankle?Why would the...Oh, lit up. Red, red, drop it.One.Why would the wrench have an ankle have a wrench?Three? I don't know. Wrenching your ankle? I don't know.
49:32I can't even see it.Okay. Clear.Got the wrench out of the ankle.That's two?Yep. There's one minute left.What's the aiming for now over there?We're going for the hamstring.Oh, the old rubber band down in the leg.
49:47That should be easy.Okay, hamstring secured.Good job.Got it.Three down.45 seconds left.I don't want to jinx it, but he hasn't buzzed it.You did.
50:00Thanks, Eddie.And time, go back in.You're like the announcer that says the kicker hasn't missed.Butterfly?Okay, butterfly's cured.That was clean.26 seconds left.Red, one, two, three, back in.
50:19Up, one, two, three, back in.Oh, he's changing up.He's changing up.He went for the bread basket.Smart.There's 10 seconds left.He's going back.He's going back. Oh, Red.
50:31One.Kevin, leave that one, two, three.Back in.Red again.One, two.Time.I think his stubborn has got him on that.No, these are all like underneath a little bit.
50:42Time.And before we bring Reed back in, don't let him know how many did, how many to get there.Okay.Total.We got five pieces here.We got the butterfly, the bread, the wrench, the funny bone, and the hamstring.Right.If you guys don't mind going back.
50:54to your seats. Thank you very much.How was that, Kevin?Sucked. You know, I was shaking.Because the game's harder because you're nervous?Both. And some are obviously a little bit harder than others, and I learned that the hard way.Yeah. You knew that, though, from the history of the game, right?I sure. Honestly, I've not thought about this game in a long time.You didn't Google anything while in my office waiting?
51:17No, because I did that for Connect 4 and that did nothing for me.Is that what you would do, bones? Google about it.Yeah, what's the easiest and hardest ones to go for?Yeah. Come on in, Reed.All right, they don't know who's got whatOkay, someone unlocked the doorI guess Reed's locked outI was wondering why he was not coming in
51:31Well, we talked for a whileTold a lot of your secretsOh manWell, without saying how many each of you haveI will say that it was a very close raceIt was not a tie by the wayVery closeThere was a winner and a loser
51:48YeahBecause what would have sucked wasIt had been a tieWe have to do it againThe winnerReed, do you feel like you won?I have no confidence.I'm going to be honest.
52:01I don't think I won.So you think with your number,which we're not saying,you don't think it was enough?I don't think it was.Kevin, what about you?No, I don't feel good about it at all.It took me a while to get going.
52:14I started getting going.Some of those are like just pushed away.It's impossible.That's what I was struggling with,and then my ego got in the waywhere I was like, I can get it.And I didn't.Right.
52:24I thought you would say you did.No.No.That's a hard part.The winnerhad a total ofsix.I knew it.
52:34Reed,you're up one to zero.I'm sorry,Reed.I'm so sorry.Why are you apologizing?I just feel bad, man.Why?
52:43Because we all deserve it.No.No, when I beat Kevin,I don't think anybody deserves it.That's fair.Yeah, nobody deserves it.That's a good point.Yeah.
52:51He's best out of three, though,so, I mean, I've got a long ways to go.Well, not near as far as he does.You've got to hike up the full mountain.Kevin, your thoughts.Let's go talk to the losing coach.I said the locker runs.This is terrible.
53:01Yeah, I didn't feel great playing it.I didn't feel great afterwards,and I still don't feel great.But I still have a chance,and until I'm completely out,I'm coming for you, Reed.There you go.And I still have the confidence,
53:13and now I know I've got to come upwith some type of strategy.And looking forward to Monday.You don't know what the game is.Oh, we're not going to be.Oh, we're not going to be a whole different game.Two more different games?Because if I win, then we get another show.
53:27shot. That's correct.Sounds it going to be two different games.You think I'm going to tell you that here?I mean, just like a little sprinkle of something.So we'll play the other games on Monday show.All right. Games.Yeah, games.What to be games.
53:41Even if it's the same game twice, that's plural.Yeah.It could be a version of real life operation.And it's like the SAT, man.You can go to the store and buy every single game you want to practice.Yeah.Yeah, do that.Go buy some games and practice.
53:56A bunch of games.do you feel right now, though, knowing that you're one lost away from not getting in?Yeah, I feel pretty crappy. Yeah, I don't feel great at all. I feelpretty disappointed. I feel like I'm disappointed my family right now. Are they listening androoting on? Yeah, yeah. My mom even texted me this morning. Good luck. Oh, have you told her dad aboutall this? Yeah, he knows. Did you tell him you're already going to the Super Bowl? No, no, no, no. I, Iprefaced it with, you know, we got to play for the tickets. So, yeah. But you only had to not be theone worst.
54:28I know.And I don't like,I don't even knowif it's the Super Bowl ticketsthat I hate the most.I think it's the factthat I'm just keepinglosing that I hate the most
54:35at anything.That's not true.It's the Super Bowl that you're not going to.Like that's a,that's a bigger deal than losing two little games.It is,but like continue to lose and lose.If I don't win one game,
54:46if I don't beat Reed at least one time,I'm going to be pissed at myselffor letting that happen.Well, Monday,we'll have it all ironed out.How many,how many did he get?Five.
54:56Oh,he just kept going.for the same one over and over again.He got stubborn.I had to learn and I was like,if I couldn't get it, I had to move on.Reed, congratulations.Thank you.
55:06You're one step closerto having a Super Bowl ticket.Good job, Reed.Thank you.The 11-year-old kidwho landed the Paul Skeen'sone-of-one rookie patch card,which this was forever,
55:17they were like, if anybody finds it,the pirates had offered,if you found this card,a pair of pirate season ticketsbehind home plate for the next 30 years,a meet and greet with Paul Skeens,two signs skein's jerseys,a Pirates game
55:28with Libby Dunnand her suite and much more.So if you found the card,you could turn it in for all that.And you got to play on the field,like a softball game on the Pirates field.And the kid was like,now we're good.
55:38Because what's the card worth?They're going to auction it off.I would imagineat least a few hundred thousand dollars.Okay.Like, would you rather have a few hundred thousand dollarsor,but you live in Pittsburgh, right?
55:53Yeah.A pair of pirates,seize of tickets,meet and greet.jerseyssitting her sweetI would rather have the moneyI think I'm taking the money
56:02and you could also just hold itbut thenyou really needPaul Skeens to continue to play welland usually in the card marketthere's a heavy pop firstand even if they maintainit's hard for them to stay at that big
56:18highest marketthe stock marketwhich is where he's at right nowafter winning rookie of the yearyeahso11 year old found it in just a pack.Wow.
56:28And it was a redemption card.So it wasn't even the card.It's, hey, you got this, you won this, mail it off.Wow, that's cool.Yeah, that's pretty awesome.And if you're the kid's parents, what are you going to do?How much of it do you give him, Eddie?Your kid wins it.
56:41I would say, let's sell it.And then we're going to save half of it for your college funds or whatever, your future.It's going to be taxed.So let's just say it's $200,000.We're saying it's $300.We're making up a number.There's $200,000.cash now that you have.
56:57Go ahead.What are you doing with you and your kid?Your kids, if he's 11.How much do I have in my hand?200,000.200, after taxes, we're saving$100,000.And then you're going to give me and your mom
57:07$50,000.They're just going to give it to.Yeah, because it's parent tax.That's not a real thing that they can sue you later on life.Nah, no, no, no, no.This is a parent tax.It's just our stuff.And then now you have 50 grand to do whatever you want with.
57:19You're going to give a kid $50,000 just say go?Yeah.You're not going to, like, spread it out.No.You get $100 a week.No, because he's already got the $100,000 for his future, man.He gets to go to college.You're going to give an 11-year-old kid just straight up, 50K.
57:32What do you think he could do with 50K?Candy.Yeah.Ice cream every day.Shoes.You don't have enough room in your house for 50K of stuff.No, no, I don't have to be like, hey, dude, no, we're not buying that.Because it's not like he's going to buy a Bob Ross painting and invest in a one painting for $40,000.
57:50He might buy a drum set, you know?Oh, yes.Well, here we are.I hope everybody has a good weekend.Thanks to Daryl Johnston for coming on.That was awesome.Thank you to Reed for letting us see a victor.Oh, thank you guys.
58:01Thank you to Kevin for letting us see someone lose again.That was cool.Luckily, that wasn't the game that ended at all.I know.But there will be one.What do you mean?There will be one to end at all.Yes.
58:14Yes, there will.A Monday show.I guess unless you die.So we play two on Monday?Is that how it works?If Kevin wins,we will play another.we'll play a third tiebreaker game.
58:27And is it going to be a traditional game or can we go to like arm wrestling?I don't want to put where anyone has an advantage already.There's no advantage to arm wrestling with these two?Sure, there is.Reed's been hitting the gym.It'd be like doing sprints or nothing physical because there'd be an advantage.You know, I don't want to even do sports trivia.Reed doesn't claim to no sports.
58:48True.So we've found games like this.How's your arm, by the way?Oh, better, dude.better, like a lot better.I don't know if I'm just likesuper healer over here, butI'm able to move my arm.
59:01Like, I would say 50%more than I did when I fell.And there's no pain.What's up? It's convenient.Because? Because I think by this timenext week, when we're in New Orleans,he might even be out of that sling.But how did that help him?
59:17He thinks I'm faking the whole thing to get out of the100-pound ball. Yeah. Oh, thatwas a challenge. Yeah. No, not thecase. And that's the thing. I don't even knowwhen I'll be able to carry anything because I mean,dude, what the doctor say? How long?He just said, we'll talk aboutanything you can do like physically,
59:33like working out after his second visit.So that's in, that's after we get backfrom the Super Bowl. Do you tell him? You're going to Super Bowl?No, no, I didn't tell. No, because that's when Ididn't know if I was going. I really didn't want to tell peopleI might go to the Super Bowl. That's pretty cool.Okay, well, then we will see you guys next week.I got nothing else to say.
59:51Good luck to everybody. Hope you have a good weekend.Kevin's going to stew. He's already upset.Kevin Reed, thank you for the entertainment.Oh, you're welcome. Was it entertaining for you?Yeah.Mostly just to see the joy and the sadness on the face.Because other than the cameras that we had set up,we can't really watch it back until we watch it back on Instagram, you know?
01:00:07You're going to post this one too?Of course.Oh, are we not?Just making sure.Afraid to lose again?All right, that's it. Thank you guys.Follow at Bobby Bone Sports on Instagram and YouTube,and we will see you guys on Monday.
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