The Breakfast Club - INTERVIEW: Claressa Shields Talks Upcoming Fight, Relationship With Papoose, Turning Down ‘Baddies’ Role +More

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

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Wake that ass up. It's in the morning. The Breakfast Club. Morning everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building. The champ is here. Yes indeed.

Clarissa Shields. Welcome. What's up girl? How you feeling? I feel good. I'm happy to be here. How you feeling? You had a fight July 26th?

Yes. Little Caesars Arena in Detroit against Lanny Daniels? Yeah, always excited to fight a girl, man. Always excited. Defensive World Championship. She got two belts. She's from New Zealand. She's supposed to be tough, so I look forward to fighting her.

How do y'all pick the fights? Who helps you decide who your next opponent going to be? We just go whoever the best is. And then if the best turns down, we go to second best. And then if second best, we go third best. This fight we went for Hannah Gabriel. So you know that dropped me in Detroit a couple years back. I wanted to rematch her and she turned us down.

Do a lot of people turn you down? Is it hard for you to fight an opponent? Yeah, well, you know, I'm champ at five different weight classes. So when I was at 154 and 160 and 168, now I'm at 175. And when I was at 154 and 160 and 168, now I'm at 175. And when I was at 154, these girls who are fighting at 154 now wouldn't fight me.

I literally had to go up. It was like, okay, I challenged the girls who was at 147, but they didn't wanna fight. I initially went down, cause I wanted to fight against the 147 champions, Cecilia Brockett at the time. And she told me that I was too fat to get down to 54. So when I got to 54 and beat up all the girls at 54,

I said, now is your time. And she said, I'm not, she said she wasn't fighting me. So I was like, well damn, that was a waste of time coming down to 154, because I barely made that weight. It's clear, are you scared to lose? What do you mean? Am I scared to lose a fight? Yeah, if you lose a fight.

These girls can't beat me, What I gotta be scared of? These girls can't beat Michelle Banks. Come on now. Absolutely. Come on now. No. I know, but I just know a lot of fighters be wanting that perfect record, and if they do lose, they don't bounce back the same sometimes.

Well, I don't know them, about them, but I know me. I think I train too hard and that I'm too gifted, and I'm just mean in there. I mean, you know what it is. Absolutely. Like, I'm just real mean. I'm too gifted and I'm just mean in there. I mean, you know what it is. I'm just real mean, I'm real dominant, I'm very confident and I know that I'm very hard to beat. Listen, if a girl can beat me,

I will get on my knees and kiss her feet and tell her good job. That's how I know it's not gonna happen. So do you study the people that you fight, like Lainey Daniels, have you gone down a rabbit hole of her highlights and stuff like that? It doesn't take me long to watch the highlights. I watch the highlights and I watch a girl fight

and I say, oh, okay, I know what I need to do with her. It doesn't take me long to watch it, but I do other research. You know, I go and watch interviews of her just talking. I go and look at news articles. I learn about her life. What was her childhood like, you know? What she been through in life.

Like I go and do like deep research. You study deeper than just fighting. What does that do for you in the ring? Like how does that? The trash talk. You know, you gotta get in the head. You know, some of these girls, you don't, some of these girls, you wanna piss them off.

They be having a good game plan, but once you piss them off, the game plan go out the window. Like, they just wanna kill you. And I think that's what I did with Savannah Marshall. Like, I went and did my research on her, and then I started talking to her, I started trash talking to her, and then when we got face to face,

and whenever I seen her, I just used to say stuff to her, and I know that what I would say will play over and over again in her head. And then when we fought, her culture and her game plan was to stand in the center of the ring and fight me, which was like, that's dumb. You six two. I'm five nine. You should have been on your jab. At least to give you a better chance at winning. But she came out there trying to fight like she could knock me out and I almost got her ass knocked out. Damn.

I wanted to go back a little bit. Last time you came I almost got her ass knocked out. Damn. I wanted to go back a little bit. Last time you came here, you were promoting your movie. Yes. And we didn't, I didn't get, none of us got a chance to see the movie because the movie didn't come out yet. And I seen the movie and I wanted to talk about that,

your childhood growing up a little bit. Cause we didn't discuss it last time cause we didn't see the movie. So after being a champion for that young, for that long, nobody gave you endorsement deals, nobody put you on the cover of those cereal companies, there was no money coming in.

I'm sitting there like, this is crazy, because you are a champ. And how did that happen? And how did you not hate the sport of boxing and say, F this, because you weren't even, like the fact that you're winning and you still have to go back to Michigan and still have to go back to some of the places

that you were is crazy. Especially when you see a lot of white girls getting all that money. Yeah, well, honestly, I feel like back then, me being 17 years old, me being from Flint, Michigan, me being just, I was, I was rough around the edges. You know, I'm more put together now. And I can say that back then,

I didn't understand what the branding part of it was. You know, how they want you to talk. You seen it in the movie, you know, how they want you to wear your hair, how they want you to dress, or how you supposed to dress. Like, what's the ideal American golden girl? And for me, it was all about the accolades.

It was like, yeah, you can have the makeup and the hair and look good, but if you can do all that and then you don't win the fights, then who cares? To me, winning has always been the number one thing to do. And I think that that had a part to play in it. And then also women's boxing being fairly new. There is no way possible to make women's boxing look good. Now I know I make it look good now, but that's when I'm outside the ring.

Inside the ring, you get what you get. You know, I come there, I have my hair braided. Excuse me, I come there in my wig to the actual fight. I have my dress on, I have my wig on, I have my makeup on, I go in the back room. Once we get to the back after the grand arrival, I'm wiping all the makeup off. I mean, wiping the edge control off

because the edge control is sweating again your eyes and then I'll be taking the knee like Javontae. You know what I'm saying? I'm not doing that. But they try to say that that don't work though. That's not how it works. Well, Javontae, he didn't have edge control. He said it was grease.

Edge control burn. I know from experience. You don't wear edge control to the gym so that does happen edge control I don't know about no grease now but edge control yes it starts sweating in your eye it burn like hell so when I when I'm going in back I take everything off to the lashes to everything the edge control and then I get in the ring and I fight but after the fight is over with after I don't win ten rounds sometime less, after I done went 10 rounds, some time less,

I be kinda bruised up sometimes and sore, I still go and put my wig back on. That's crazy to do that. I have my girls do my makeup, I put my clothes on, put my body suit on, put my heels on, and we go out and we party. And that is like the balance you have to find, but it's not an easy balance to have.

Like a lot of times I be wanting to go home, you know, and I'll be wanting to lay down. And I got to ice my face and my body after fighting for days and then I can come back outside and look refreshed, but it's not always that simple. So I think it was hard to make, back then I didn't care about making boxing be pretty. It was like, look, this is what you get.

You want a female boxer, this is what you get. You get muscles, you get grit, you get a hard punch. You get me talking shit to these girls and telling them how bad I'm gonna beat them. And like, that's what you get. But now I can manage it better because I think I'm better experienced now. I watched the fire inside and I thought to myself,

because it shows so much of your personal life, what version of Clarissa Shields you think would have emerged without boxing? I'd be in jail. Damn. That's flat out period. And I would say I would be in jail or dead because boxing helped me with my anger.

And I'm 30 years old and I still deal with my anger now. But back then I was way meaner. I didn't have an understanding of why I had to go through things that I went through, why my upbringing was so tough. And I was angry about that. Boxing helped me relieve some of that anger. It helped me direct it towards something more positive.

So I know without boxing, I would have been street fighting, fighting girls. They used to call me Bishop in my hood because they wanted me to sell drugs. Because I was the one, I could go tell you, hey, he said, give him this and then run it back. But it was just like, for me, I was like, I don't, I didn't want that type of lifestyle.

You know what I'm saying? But I know without boxing, that wouldn't happen. Some people like to say, oh you would have been pregnant. But I didn't even like my first boy until I was 15 years old. I didn't like, I didn't mean to say first boy because I didn't think it was a girl, but I didn't like anything until I was 15. I liked boxing. And then when I was 15, I realized that a boy was cute to me.

And that's when I'm like, okay, so I guess I'm not, I'm not gay, cool. You thought she was gay at first? Because you like- Nah, I just didn't like nothing. I thought I was weird. I didn't think I was gay, I thought I was weird. Well that's normal though, 15,

that's where your mind should be at. You shouldn't be thinking about no boys or no girls at 15. Shoot, all my friends have boyfriends since 11 to 10 years old. They're just as start beating bitches up. Training, running to the gym, drinking water, eating healthy, giving myself a 10 o'clock, a 10 p.m. curfew to be in bed, 6 a.m. get up and go run to school. That was my life.

When I put to you the coaching training, do y'all still speak? Yeah, me and Jason still speak. Y'all still speak? You know, it was just, we too much alike. You know, he taught me to be very strong and confident and don't take disrespect. And I guess all those rules apply except to him. And I think that was the problem.

He always told me when somebody disrespect you, you check and write it in there. You don't wait till y'all go somewhere quiet. Or he like, somebody disrespect you, you let them know right in there, like hey, I don't like that. That wasn't cool. That was disrespectful. And you try to let them know, like hey,

it's consequences for being disrespectful. You know, it's consequences. Break down, what happened exactly with Tzatziki? Because I see, and Tzatziki is from Baddies, for those who don't know, but that's Krishan's sister. But it's so many different rumors around it. People say you started it and they say she started it. I wanna know how, what even happened?

Because you're not on Baddies. You don't be over there with Zeus. There you go. So like, how did that even start? Her fans. This is the thing. There you go. So like with how did that even start? Her fans. This is the thing I fight professionally who's more known for fighting me or Tzatziki? Let's be honest. Professionally you for sure. Fighting period I'm more known. I went to the Olympics twice. I'm known by millions for fighting. But I'm saying you're like you

are a professional fighter like you said first That you're more known professionally to fighters. So now that she's beating up girls on baddies, her fans came to me. Oh, we think Tzatziki can do this and do that. All I did was respond and let them know. I like that Tzatziki is beating these girls up. You know, it's good for TV, but she can't beat me up. And that's where I think her problem came from. But all in all, I don't give a damn about Tziki or nobody who think that she can do anything with me.

She said that she needs to stop popping pills and all this other shit to get ready to fight me, and she gotta train exactly how I train. She behind the eight ball, she gotta do all that. She's already lost in a sauce when it comes to even a fight with me. And that's inside the ring and outside the ring. Because, one, you never tell nobody your weaknesses. You never tell them all the stuff that you're doing that you're not supposed to be doing.

That's one. Two, I'm never going to give you my entire regiment of training of what I do. Why? Why would I do that? Get up and go run six miles. She'll die. She can't do it. Why would I do that? Get up and go run six miles, she'll die. She can't do it. So, the conversation doesn't make sense.

I think right now I'm at a spot in my life where everything is about clout, clout, clout. And right now I'm just natural clout. Anytime I talk, everybody like, oh, Claressa said this, Claressa said that. Shade room, a Hollywood unlock, TMZ. I really can't do anything without people taking bits and parts of it and just.

So it was the fans. It was the fans that made that. And then I also, like I said, I responded to it. And actually, I actually caught Ivory to a fight. To me, Ivory. Oh, Ivory, who's on, who just, she just joined Baddie. Yeah, Ivory is way more rougher than Tzatziki. She's actually from like a rough part of wherever she's from.

And I've seen that girl fight on Now That's TV. Me too. Yeah. And she was more keen. She responded to having a boxing match against me. It wasn't a street fight with Ivory. She responded to her wanting to get in the ring and box against me.

And I was like, OK. Yeah. Well, let's make it happen. But you know, it's the internet, so I made that $100,000 challenge to, hey, if a girl can whip me, I will give you $100,000. If you can beat me in a fight, you deserve $100,000. You do.

I wanna see it. I'm not wishing that on you, Clarissa, but I just wanna see it. Because I feel like at some point, you're gonna have to show one of these girls stop playing with you. Did you miss it when I beat the troll up at the gym? I remember that.

Well, that was the first example. These girls know, do not come to the gym. Fuck with me no more. I will glove up with you. Yeah. I'm not that bougie, where they be like, oh, I'm just too celebrity. Oh, no.

Nah. You want your ass whipped. I'll whip your ass. But that's my point. When I hear people just randomly talking to professional athletes online, like they can just beat them so easily, I just want to see. I need to see.

I'm serious. Because I think we need to see the difference between a Clarissa Shields and just you fighting on Zeus. Yeah. So what do you mean? You want to see me in a street fight? Nah, why don't you get some money for it? But I just want to see.

No, I'm saying, you want to see me fight without gloves?? Nah, why don't you get some money for it? But I just want to- You know what I'm saying? You want to see me fight without gloves? Yeah, because y'all waiting for- He must hate you. This is a fight. Either way you win, right? Or you win. No, this is a job.

Like we ain't talking about. I will say with boxing, listen, first of all, the boxing gloves protect the fighters. It's the padding. I would never do bare knuckle boxing. I barely wanted to do MMA which is four ounce gloves but Shaila May I fight these girls with no gloves on you must hate them. Wow I can't believe you said that. I'm sorry he said that Charles. I apologize for him. But didn't they try to get you on baddies right?

Natalie wanted me to come. Natalie wanted you to come. To stay in the house and everything and I told her listen I was all for it because I feel like it's cross-branded yeah it's cross-branded and I will more go on there on some I like positive stuff you know I like really yeah I like I like positive stuff like boxing is positive to me okay but I will go on there more of like I think the girls on on baddies it's a lot of women on there more of like I think the girls on on baddies It's a lot of women on there who got like some trauma and needs healing, you know and Training and boxing helped me. I want to go on there to these girls want to fight all the time

I don't understand if they fight in the if they fight in the whole time who's getting to a bag Yeah, that that'd be my question for them. I was actually getting to Some money on there if all they doing is fighting they can't go to the club, they can't go to dinner, they can't go to events because it's a fight that break out every time. So for me, I was like, look, I will go on there and I want to be that eye-opener of like, look, let's train, let's work out, let's relieve some stress and maybe everything can go more smoothly. But then of course, if it can't, yeah, glove up and put on headgear and some mouthpieces

because girls getting their teeth knocked out, they getting eyes busted up. For nothing. I don't know how much they mean. No, no, I'm not even talking about what they getting paid, but I'm just saying, for nothing, it's just a bunch of arguments and fighting. It's no objective, no true objective.

Yeah, you don't know who's right, who's wrong. I don't know, but like I said, I told Natalie that I will come on her show, but she gotta have everybody sign a form that if I, listen, I want them girls trying to be so intimidated that they team up and try to jump me. Now I got the wood fo' hoes in one day. And then lawsuits come after that.

Yeah, no, no. We gotta have them sign that. Listen, I'm not responsible for no damages, for no teeth, no eyes, none of that. Because I feel like those girls on Batches are daredevils. And hell, what it look like getting jumped by Tosika and Ivory?

I gotta fight for my life, it's two of them. I gotta fight real, real hard. And it's like, I'm back to speaking ivory. I gotta fight for my life, it's two of them. I gotta fight real, real hard. And it's like, I'm not losing. Especially if we on TV and they gonna post the clips. I gotta show y'all what I can really do. So did they sign it? Oh, okay. No, she said that she couldn't get it done.

She said, oh, she talked to Zeus, and since it's reality TV, she can't have them sign it. I said, well, I can't come. And we ain't even talk about money or anything because once we didn't get past that, I just said, okay, cool. That's all right. And people be so scared to take an ass weapon,

they might come at you with weapons and all types of shit. Yeah. All right, I got people trying to, people talking about, listen, people done said that they gonna shoot me, stab me, all types of stuff. I wanted to ask about, you know, the last fight, they said, at first they said there was some substance

in your urine and then they came back and said that wasn't true. What happened with that instance? Man, people was crazy. I don't know, man. Like it was, it's just crazy work. I will tell you that. I've never experienced something like that in my life.

I don't smoke marijuana. I don't eat marijuana. I'm not even around people that smoke so I Was thinking that it was the arena because I know that in the arena was smoky as ever, you know Rather that was with cigarette smoke weed smoke, whatever because it's legal in Michigan You can just go to a store and buy it. Mm-hmm. So, um When I found out that it was in my system, first thing I did, because I was here in New Jersey, I was here in New York and I was a pap, when I got the news, I said,

these motherfuckers is crazy. I went straight to Lab Corp and I took a urine test and that goes back to 30 days. And it said I didn't have any marijuana in my system at all. So how this came out that I did have it in there from a swab test which isn't really that accurate versus a urine test, I think that's how I beat my case. And like I said, I had to go and sit in front of them and go to trial and all this bull crap.

But it just, I think something was wrong with their test. I don't know what was wrong with their test, but everything got resolved. I got unsuspended. And now we back fighting July 26th at Little Ceasars in Detroit. You know, you said earlier that, you know, people do, you the clout now, right?

And I saw Chris Cyborg just tweet out, he said- Who is that? A UFC fighter. Okay. He said, only five boxing fights, but already got more KO's than Clarissa Shield. That was so random. I'm like what?

Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she, first of all, I kicked Chris Cyborg ass very bad when we sparred a few years back. And I know Namba was the fighter, I'd knock her out. So I don't know, and then she just fought a girl that was four wins, three losses, and had been knocked out twice already. So if you go out, if you want to be technical,

since I have to, if you go to boxwreck, I've never fought against a fighter who wasn't, who had more than four or five losses. Most of the people I fought against are undefeated champions. So when Chris Iboard can do that, she can talk my heart, like how many knockouts she's getting, but till then, she can go keep injecting that shit

in her face, trying to make her face look softer because she look like a damn clown every time I see her. I just can't, you know, and then Chris is the opp. She wanted to learn so much. Oh, oh, oh, I'm your friend. I want you to train MMA. And then when I turned MMA, to start fighting MMA, she wouldn't even come and train with me.

Wow. But she was like, oh when you train MMA I'm gonna teach you this and teach you that. She wouldn't even come train with me because I beat her up when we sparred. So she was an op and she should have took that money that them dudes have for us to fight over there in Saudi when they offered me three million to offer her one. She should have took the money. Damn, she turned that down? She's a punk. over there in Saudi when they offered me three million to offer her one. She should have took the money. Do you like fighting in Michigan?

Damn, she ain't took, she turned that down? She's a punk. Tell me, I was like, oh, I wanna fight at 147 and you're bigger than me. Why do we gotta fight at 154? I'm like, sis, let's get some money. What's the problem? Oh no, I wanna fight at 147.

I've never made 147, so I'm not going to 47. You enjoy fighting in Michigan or do you like Vegas? Well, my dream was to fight at T-Mobile Arena in Vegas. That's like my ultimate dream main event I fought there before my pro debut But um, I love fighting I love fighting in Michigan though, you know But listen, you got a you got to come to the fight to actually experience it Some of these boxing matches I'all been going to, they been kinda lackluster and boring, but you don't get that up in my fight.

You get a good walkout, you get a nice crowd. The crowd chants, whoop that trick in between the rounds. And yeah, you know, you get action packed fight with me in there, so it's a whole different experience. What's something about the way women's boxing is promoted that makes you cringe, but you haven't publicly called it out yet? For me, how they act like putting women

on men's undercards doesn't help the women. They keep trying to say, oh, it's not beneficial, but that's how they build their men champions up to where they can become main event fighters. So when I was saying, hey, I wanna fight the undercard of Deontay Wilder, Terrence Crawford, Earl Spence, Pacquiao, guys of that nature, I was always being told, oh, that's not gonna help you, girl,

that's not gonna help your oh, that's not gonna help you, girl. That's not gonna help your brand. That's not gonna, it was like, yes it is. Yes it is. If 20 million people is tuning in to see Anthony Joshua fight, I'm the co-main event. At least 10 of them gonna be there. Or 15, waiting to get to the, so they can see me fight and they can become fans of me.

But they act like that's false information when I know that it's true. Because I've seen them do it with the men who I fight better than. That now that these men are getting main event cards, I'm like, huh, that's funny. He fighting Pay-Per-View and I know damn well he can't fight better than me.

Seemed like a no brainer. Yeah, hell yeah. Seemed like a no brainer. Who was that fight, the Taylor Serrano fight? Who was that? That was on therano fight? Who was that? That was on the card of um... Mike Tyson, Jake Paul? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That was the best fight on the card that night. Yeah, I agree. Your name has been, your name be in a lot of conversations. A lot of stuff. Not only even for boxing though, but your personal life as well, right? And do you feel like because your personal life, you know, like your love life and everything, like even online, that gets like more publicity than like things

like your movie or your fights. Do you feel like that helps or hurts your career in any type of way? I feel like everything helps. You know what I'm saying? Women's boxing is a very hard market for people to find out about you. You know what I'm saying? I've been the best fighter in the world since I was 17 years old. I'm 30 now, that's 13 years of dominance.

Of not losing. I got 17 world titles, five different divisions, four time undisputed champion. Like, I've accomplished everything you can accomplish in boxing. So therefore, all this stuff that my name being is like, you know what? It's beneficial. I just have to make sure it's going the direction that I want it to go. I want to be Beyonce. Okay. I want to be like Serena Williams. I don't want to be like,

I don't even want to get on bad examples. It's a bunch. But I want to be like on that caliber of Muhammad Ali. So doing that, I can't entertain everything, you know, even though it may give me more followers, but it's not something that's going toward where I'm trying to go to in my career and in my life because I'm trying to go to the 50 and 20 and 100 million dollars And some stuff that I may entertain kid could stop that. You know, I don't My name be everywhere every day. I got a every day is somebody else making a damn podcast. It's somebody else

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cuz like yeah right right before your movie came out. Right before it came out. Which, you know, could have helped sales or whatever it did. But your relationship was revealed in a very messy way. What was going through your mind when that happened? That was early in the morning, everything just, you know. Are you funny? It was early. I can say that I was shocked for one. And I was upset because me and my publicist had been talking about, hey, we're getting ready

to have the movie come out on Christmas Day, let's not have nothing happen. So I had been ignoring so many things, so many things. And then this came and they was like, oh, what the hell. And I remember being like, I was frustrated, but also too, it was like, keep your cool. Because once again, the direction we're trying to go is not that direction.

One, I don't get paid off a drummer. A lot of people say that they know me because of that situation or because of PAP. And it was like, I had 1.1 million followers before that ever happened. Now I'm at 1.31, 1.4, and it was like, but I also had a movie come out, I had a fight. I'm constantly going viral for anything.

Netflix documentary. Yeah. You been up there? I've done TV shows, like I rap. So with that, I just like, you know what, it's just, I think that the devil was trying to get in the way. You know, he wanted to see me crash out.

And that's why I handled it how I handled it. I promoted my movie. I promoted my fight. And I just continued moving because I have nothing to argue about. Like me and Pap are together, we are happy together. He packed my belts this morning for me to bring my stuff here. We just got back from LA, we're together all the time.

He wrapped me out, we train together, like we're together. So I don't really have to argue about anybody about where my spot is with him. You know, like that's not my place now. There are things that got to get handled, but it's still, it's not even my stuff to handle. It's his. How did y'all meet? We met at your court fight, July 6th, last year.

I met at a fight, wow, okay. Yeah, that's what I said. How did you know he was the one? How did you, I'm sure dudes kick it to you all the time. How did you know like he was the one um he's smooth cat man see the thing is I got told I didn't really like boys till I was 15 so now I've had a few boyfriends here and there and um I remember like Pap he walked up to me and he shook my hand which I was like why the fuck shake hands? Who shakes hands? That was kind of my mind, like what the hell?

And then he just mentioned like, oh, I watched you fight in the Olympics. I'm a fan. I've been a fan. And I was like, well, I fight in two weeks in Detroit. If you free, you should come out. And he like, I'm coming. And I always get that from celebrities though. They always say, oh, we going to come, we going to come.

And then fight night come and then they don't come So I think it was coming. I'm like, alright cool. I'm like, um, we took a picture Which I'm gonna get to that in a minute, but we took a picture and I posted it on my page But it was my second picture because I think G Herbo was the first picture and then when I posted it I DMed him the picture and And then when I posted it, I DM'd him the picture. And I'm like, if you want to come to the fight, here's my publicist number, I'll make sure you got VIP where you can come to the back and say hello, whatever.

And he was like, all right. So he hit her immediately, and we're all in a group text. And then the day of the fight, he texted her and said, hey, I'm here. And then she brought him to the back. And I was like, oh, shit, he came to the fight. That's what's up. But I could tell, you said, hey, I'm here. And then she brought him to the back. And I was like, oh, shit, he came to the fight. That's what's up. But I could tell, like, you said, what did he,

I know he was the one. So strange. So I came here to the Breakfast Club last year, and he kept saying he wants to go out to eat. When I come to New York, he wants to take me out to eat. And I was just like, why? What do you want to go out to eat for? Like, what's up?

And we had been texting back and forth and stuff like that, and take me out to eat. And I was just like, why? What do you wanna go out to eat for? Like, what's up? We had been texting back and forth and stuff like that, but he's really hard to, he's not hard to read, but he's very private throughout the text. And so I just wanna talk to him in person. So when we talked in person, that's when I was like, dang, I kinda like this dude. And he just was so kind, so nice. And I think we had a conversation before,

like, do you like bad boys or good boys? I like a good guy. Don't be all, all that nonchalant, suck up, you the prize, get the hell away from me, please. Knock a nigga out, act like that. I don't see you. You messy. People think I hate my men.

I don't. Okay. I don't. Have you though? Come on now. You said there's some things he needs to handle. What do you mean by that? Say that again? You said earlier there's some things Pap need to handle.

Oh, I mean, it's the elephant in the room. I don't have to say it. In his personal life. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's the elephant in the room. But that takes time. and like I said, that's not my place to speak on. You know what I'm saying?

Like, it'll get handled. I just know that from my perspective, I'm with him every day and when I'm not with him, we're on the phone every day and we're talking and we're FaceTiming and you know, we love each other. So that's just kind of what it is. You know what I'm saying? But hey, it's a situation and it of what it is. You know what I'm saying? But hey, it's a situation and it is what it is.

I'm assuming you mean like you want the way to the divorce is like official, official. Does that hold you, does that keep you from like giving your all? No, not because we're together all the time. So the all is already given, is what she's saying. Yeah, that's it. We already talk, we talk about so many different things

and I'm 30, so we talk about kids and family and stuff like that, but like it's still, that still has to get taken care of, but like, you know, once again, it's not, it's not for me. You understand what I'm saying? Like I'm not, I'm not married, you know? So yeah, that's, that'll get handled, but still at the same time, I've been like, I'm such a secure woman when it comes to him because he's proven it to me. I was...

When somebody is just truthful with you from the beginning, there is no secrets. There is just, hey, this is what it is, and do you accept or do you not accept? That's kind of what it was, and he's been truthful from the beginning, and do you accept or do you not accept? That's kind of what it was, and he's been true from the beginning, and we fell asleep on the phone for three, four months of us first getting together.

So, for us to fall asleep on a regular night and then to wake up to chaos in the morning, was like, oh shit. I was like, that's how we found out because y'all was on the damn phone. But that had been going on for three, four months. And that wasn't just at night, we talked from sunup to sundown.

So that, like I said, that's what shocked me because I was like, oh hell, what the heck? Because if we go to sleep on the phone for four months, every night, and the phone is saying it's four hours, three hours, whatever, hours on the phone, you don't think that one day you're gonna wake up to that. You know, so that's what threw me off. But hey, at the end of the day, look, women are women.

I don't know what else to say. Like, I don't have any ill will toward any women. And I don't have any ill will toward her. You know what I'm saying? So y'all haven't spoke or, nah. Nah, I mean, she made her post post and whatever and that was about it. But like I said, women are women. They're very emotional creatures.

You know what I'm saying? And I think that was just, I don't know what it was. I don't know if it was emotions or I don't know what it was because I don't know her and she don't know me. She don't know me either. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, I don't know what it was, because I don't know her, and she don't know me. She don't know me either, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I don't know what that was, but like I said, it's not, it wasn't for me.

That's why I just responded how I responded. We gonna promote the movie, we gonna promote the fight. Once again, I fight July 26th. Man event at Little Seasons Arena, Tickets on Ticketmaster. 19,000 people need to be there. Last fight I did 12,000, let's go for 19 this one. You know, as a woman who dominates

the brutal sport, Clarissa, do you ever feel like you gotta protect your softness? Yeah, everybody don't get that. Everybody don't get that, you know. In the past year, I say year and a half, I had to change my whole life around. I was living in Flint, Michigan, I had a nice house there.

I was engaged. You know, I was just very, very close to everybody in my family. But once I knocked out Joanase at that heavyweight and people thought I was gonna lose that fight and I knocked her out in the second round, I thought people change when you lose. People change when you win and they thought you was gonna lose.

And they start acting crazy. All this entitlement, people got issues with me. I did this, I did that. I haven't done nothing but train and work hard and be accomplished. And oh, I'm looking down on them. I think I'm better than them because I buy myself nice things. And I don't buy them nice things and it just got outrageous you know and then these girls and it was oh you

know anyways it was just people start paying more attention to me because I started loving myself better yeah so loving myself better it means you have to disconnect from things that don't love you and I had to move all the way to Atlanta. I have another house now, a seven bedroom house now. And I just had to move there and I spent so much time learning to be okay with being by myself, right? And this was coming out of a relationship and I didn't just jump into a relationship with Pat. I gave myself a month or two, but it was still just,

it's a little bit time, you know how it is young folk feels. It came with only for too long now. I'm fine for that. But yeah, it just morphed in me, like I had to really seclude myself. And when I did that, I learned to be all right with just hanging out with me. You know what I'm saying?

Hanging out with me and my dog, because I have a dog. The sad thing about it is watching a movie, that's how you were at like 15, 16, the same thing. You started winning and then everybody started coming and started feeling entitled. And it's weird that you still had to deal with that now. It just never changed.

You never had a chance to go. More money, more problems. And that's real. More money, more problems. They hear about you making millions of dollars. They see you ran a hundred thousand dollar chain. You got a Rolex, you got diamonds on diamonds. They like, where my shit at?

And I'd be like, well, you go get hit in the face and then you, then I, and then I bet you'll get something. You may not get a million, but you gonna get some, you gonna get some money. You gonna run some miles and you gonna eat healthy and you sacrifice what you have to sacrifice, 100% you will make some type of money. Do you think you feel that way?

Because you've always, I'm just going off the movie. In the movie there was a scene where you was with your, I think your little brother and your little sister and you was like, I'm gonna get us out the hood basically. Yeah. I'm gonna get us out of here. So you think that they've always looked to you to be that person? Yes and no, because I've done things for my family that nobody else in this room would probably do for their family. I've bought cars. I've paid rent and not just

rent for a month or two but like for a whole year and a half. My sister little three kids are my kids. School clothes, hairdos, haircuts, shoes, that's me. My younger brother, my mom, I bought my mom two cars so far, my little brother, I just bought him a car. And I don't say this to brag, but it's like I do things for my family to help them have a better life. And it comes to a point where it's like, listen, you're grown too. I don't have to take care of you.

You're grown too. What are you going to do to help change your life? Because I'm not God. I'm not God. And nobody came down and gave me a car and gave me money. I had to work for everything that I have. So I can't just give it and give it away because you guys feel like, oh, you're our big sister or you're our family member, like this what you're

supposed to do. It's like, no, I can help position you. But then after that, you have to work. You have to figure it out because I gotta figure it out. They gotta have that mindset though. You know what I mean? Like if they don't have that mindset, like you like, you grind, you push yourself, you built your own self. You know what I mean? Then all they don't have that mindset like you like you grind you you push yourself

You built your own self You know what I mean? Then they're only gonna keep doing like you said you just paid somebody rent a year and a half straight Mm-hmm at not one point did they ever say are yo make me like put me on so I can't pay my own rent They just said they just let you pay the rent for a year and a half Yeah, but I also told them to save up your money. I suppose do it for six months. Oh, while I'm paying your rent, save your money. Because once I'm done paying your rent,

you should be able to go pay your own rent and you should have a job by then too. You better buy your car. Something should be able to happen after saving up your money for a year and a half. And that's one thing, people talk about people getting money. Money management is a lost art in the black community. It's a lost art.

All these basketball players, football players, after they're not in the league for three years, they broke. And that's sad, but that's because money management is not something that's taught. And people don't wanna learn. When you gettin' hundreds of thousands here, hundreds of thousands here hundreds thousand there You can go buy whatever you want from Gucci Louis Versace. You can just go buy it

You're not even paying attention to how much money you're spending and then you think that after your career is done You can still spend that way and then you realize like oh Bank card declined You know i'm saying so I learned about money management doing during covid I had 10 people sent in my house 10 I was ordering door dash every day cases of water food and

I think from the year of kovat. I spent $75,000 within a few months. I look at my bank account. I said what? How'd it happen? I thought somebody was stealing from me. I went down and looked at my bank account, I went to the bank and wasn't nobody stealing. You just spend money because you know that you have it. But it was like, yo, that's too much for me to be spending 75,000 in three months. It adds up.

Yeah, some gotta shake. So for me, that's where I learned like, okay, let's stop ordering so much online. We can't eat door that's every day. Let's order some groceries Like you got to figure out the give in a given a take because I don't do any Cigarettes or alcohol or drugs or that wasn't the problem. The problem was to me. I'm ordering out Taking care of everybody. I'm paying for gas, I'm paying for cars, I'm doing everything. It's like, yo, you gon' be broke like them people you be talking about, girl. Keep it up. Now I did see in the interview that you said after this year,

you gonna close shop down and you wanna start your family. That's what I was ready to answer. Yeah, I see the interview. You said you wanted to start your family. You're about to box it down for a little bit. You still on that wave? Yeah. Yeah. I want to have two more fights this year, and then I'll shut it down for a minute.

The reason why I did, I knew who you were before you got into a relationship with Pat, but this is the first time that I've seen you in the soft a soft girl, a soft as, I feel like you ever gonna get, unless you have a daughter. But I feel like, yeah, I've seen, I've never seen you blush before until your relationship. I've never seen you, not that you always like, yeah, you always hard up, but before your relationship,

now you're more like soft girl, and you said you had a seven bedroom house, you plan to fill that up with kids? That's what a six kid would have. It's the same question, but it's just better formed. So you trying to fill up that seven bedroom house? No, so just to rewind, I think with the childhood that I had, I have to slowly grow into the soft girl area. It's not something that just come overnight.

You don't just turn 25 my old, now you're soft, and 30, now you're soft. It's like I had to do a whole lot of healing and growing. And I feel like I've been a soft girl for three years. People keep saying, it just started with Pap. And it was like, no, I've been, I'm softer now because of the man that he is you understand, but I've Always been soft and anybody knows me know that I'm very sensitive

That's why I'm letting everybody talk to me and be around me because you said the wrong thing I've been on been a freaked out and everybody like what's wrong with her and I'm just crying that I'm cussing everybody out and I'm Gonna fight people because I know that I'm sensitive. I know that. So with me knowing that I just kind of you know steer clear of drama and stuff like that. So with that now that I'm in my softer softer girl era and I'm in a heel girl era too I want to I feel like I'm capable to have a child now. Yeah. You know and and I always wanted my own family. I want to have six kids, honestly. But I will settle with four.

The seven bedroom house. That's why you got the six bedroom for the six kids and then the other bedroom for you, your man and the dog. The dog is crazy. But yeah, I mean, I don't wanna. So you want six. Yeah, in total, over the years. You know what I'm saying?

But I do wanna start next year. But you know, tell God your plans and he'll laugh at you. So I just know that's what I want. But who knows if it'll happen to me. It may be 31 or 32. You never know. But I know that I will be having some kids soon. Was there ever a moment moment because of your upbringing,

because of the trauma you experienced where even winning feels lonelier than losing might feel? No, nothing feels better than winning. Losing sucks. Losing sucks. I don't know what type of winning you. When I win, I feel like, to me, winning the boxing match is just as great as having a great sex session.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's the highest thing for me. And people think it's weird when I say that, but it's like, I've never been high off of drugs. The highest high I've ever been or happy is either winning a boxing match or sex. It just, that's it. I mean, or let me think of something that makes me happy.

Eating good food. Yeah, sex is up there. Yeah. So regardless of what's going on in your life, if you win a match, you good. It makes me feel really, really good. And I don't let the people put the pressures on me of getting knockouts.

I know that I'm an entertaining fighter. You're gonna get a nice fight, and you're gonna be happy that you came, but you're not gonna pressure me to be upset over a win because I didn't get the knockout. Like, I think I worked too hard to let the casuals and the fans say, oh, you didn't get knockouts, so you're not good.

It's like, but I beat the shit out of her though. So to me, winning is what matters because losing, if I was to lose, ah man, you think I'm viral now. Laurie, have mercy. I don't know if this is a dumb question or not, but look, right, so when guys box, like I hear that they can't have sex before the fight because it messes up, like I guess adrenaline

need to be pumped up or whatever. But is it the same with women? Like can you have sex the night before you fight? Does it mess with you or does it take away from your energy? You're not exempt up, nah? I, well one, I can't speak for the other female champions but being pound for pound number one woman fighter, I don't have sex four to six weeks before a fight.

And any man I've been with know that. Like we can hug, we can kiss, but when it comes to like the actual- Penetration part? Nah. And even the, it's not even about, it's not about, you said the word penetration, crazy. It's not about that. It's not about, you said the word penetration, crazy. It's not about that.

It's about coming. Orgasms, right? Can't do that. So there's no type of form of sex for me. And I feel like that gives me what I need for the fight because I'm Clarese, but then when I fight, I'm Clarenzo. And Clarenzo don't want no D. Has Clarenzo ever showed up in the bedroom? Excuse me?

Scared the shit out of her. What the hell with you, man? You know this in the game, Clarenzo goes, Clarenzo, yeah? Not the green lady, no. What's a moment in your adulthood where your healing surprised you, Clarissa? Was something that used to trigger you?

You was like, oh, that don't bother me no more. Shit. You ain't get there yet? You know, I think I've had this conversation with God a couple times. I'm never gonna be the person that you slap me and I turn her the chicken, you slap me again. You know, I don't think I'll ever get there.

But do I wanna get there? Sure, but I don't want people thinking it's okay to slap me. What's something that happened to me and I said, you know what, girl, you did a good job, but not, to me it's been always defending myself, sticking up for myself, speaking the truth. And I think that,

I think when the movie came out, I was tested the most constantly, until now, still. You know, I pat myself on the back all the time. You say, I say, yeah, you may have responded to this, but you didn't respond to that. You know, you cut your phone off when you seen this, but, cause it's some people who are not even qualified

to speak on me. Like up in no type of shape or form, like you've never been number one in the world at what you do. Why are you talking to me? Why are you talking about me? You've never made a million dollars. You work for somebody, I don't.

I caught a shot for my career. House, cars, family, please. And then people feel like they can speak on me and then even some of these trolls or whatever. And trolls also be like these celebrities and I go and look and I think to my, it be the audacity that be like, celebrities. And I go and look, and I think to myself, it be the audacity. They be like, where did you get that from?

For you to even think you can come tell me about what I'm wearing, how I dress, how I wear my hair, why I'm wearing braids when I box and I ain't wearing a lace front. You not even qualified to be talking to me. Go be number one in whatever your life is first. And then when you get up there to that Michael Jordan You're not even qualified to be talking to me. Go be number one in whatever your life is first. And then when you get up there to that Michael Jordan, Serena Williams, Beyonce, Claressa

Shields era, then you come talk to me. So that'd be my issue, wanting to check people and let them know. Focus on your life because focusing on my life, you don't get no money from me. I'm not ever gonna pay you for minding my business. Go mind your business and you'll get to where you want to get to. So that'd be the thing for me like that's what I pat myself on the back because I may respond to stuff here but it's been some stuff some things that have happened and I've been like this man this hoe ain't qualified bro she not qualified to play with me like that. And that'd be my, and I think that's my,

where I'm healing from, because it's like, not only can I talk trash, and I can get back at you with whatever you're saying, I can also beat your ass too. And that'd be for me, like, some of these people need to get their ass whooped, I'm telling you. Ooh, Lord have mercy.

No cap. Well, Lainey Daniels is up next. Yeah, and you know, I've done my research. She got a nice past on her. You know, she done been through some things. She lost a sibling due to, I think, leukemia. She's tough. She's bringing our whole country of New Zealand with her to Detroit.

She thinks she can't be beat now. She lost early in her career, but I think she feels like now she can't be beaten, that she's my toughest challenge. So I look forward to fighting her July 26th. That's right, July 26th, Little Ceasers Arena in Michigan. Hold on, I got one more question. How much motivation did ESPN leave in you

off the trailblazing athletes list? How much did that motivate you? Because you should have been on there. Yeah, but you know what? Once again, like I said, I acknowledged it and then I kept going on my day, right? See, this is what I'm gonna say and this is what I want the networks and people to

understand what I've learned. I've learned that they know that they do things that's wrong, especially to me, but they do it to get a reaction out of me because they want to get more views and clicks because what I'm gonna do? Respond. I'm going to acknowledge it. So when I acknowledged it, I realized that, one, nobody paid attention to them, their little trailblazer list anyway.

That's for one. You would've got more clicks if you would've put me on there. Now that I actually brought it to everyone's attention and then they went and looked and seen what it was that got them more clicks and got them more likes. But it didn't motivate me at all because I got an SP you understand I'm saying like I am everybody who they had as a trailblazer on that list I've accomplished more than so I it didn't motivate me at all it

just showed me like another hater somebody else who who trying to downplay my greatness like it ain't great. But I know I'm the greatest, you know, and it's hard to deny it. You know, anybody that they graded in me, asking what their accomplishments are, look up their fights, look up their record. I mean, it's so much you gotta do, but I want to say to MVP, I'm the most victorious person. Fuck y'all. Period.

Well there you have it. Clarissa Shields, July 26th, Miss Troy. 16 and old boxer, undisputed status in three weight divisions, and we appreciate you for joining us. Yeah, thank y'all for having me. That's right, it's Clarissa Shields. The Breakfast Club, good morning.

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