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00:40 It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily Show with your host. Trump's running an ad that's got liberals furious. Republicans are running an ad that has conservatives furious, and a brand new passport program gives you reason to smile. Or whatever horrible face you made on your passport. So let's get into the headlines. Let's kick things off with Donald Trump.
01:26 40-time winner of the ongoing war with Iran. Now, today he launched a new website called America.gov, which uses AI to answer questions you have about the government. Questions like, why is Massachusetts so hard to spell? Or why no bulge on Lincoln Memorial? And how to solve crime, question mark. This not Cash Patel, BT-dubs.
01:53 But Trump didn't just launch an exciting new website today. He also brought in his most exciting cabinet member, Marco Rubio, to make his own exciting announcement. Starting next year, Americans will be able to apply for their first passport entirely online. Why are you doing this like an Apple product launch? And one more thing. This passport folds to the size of a passport.
02:34 But hey, you know what? When I'm wrong, I admit it. The administration is really delivering on all its promises. I mean, you remember the chance. Thank you very much, wow. Promises made promises kept. But Marco had more surprises in store because once you get that passport, it's going to look a little different.
03:04 The words, the United States of America are now exactly where they belong. First, right on top. The eagle carries you across 250 years of America. You see it sore. Watch the eagle as you flip through the pages. It flies. I think that's pretty good. Oh, holy shit.
03:27 This is going to totally blow the minds of kids in 1928 who haven't seen Steamboat Willie. Wow, extra, extra moving pictures. Read all about it. But while Trump is basking in the rollout of America's high-tech website and 19th century tech passports, he's embroiled in yet another ethical controversy.
03:47 The Trump administration is facing some controversy after a new White House ad campaign aired on CBS and other channels. The TV spots say paid for by the U.S. government. Critics say they look like campaign ads for the president. Wow. Okay, now that is messed up. The government shouldn't be spending taxpayer dollars on campaign ads for President Trump.
04:07 It should be spending that money on figuring out how to put water in the reflecting pool. Keep at it, boys. We are close to cracking it. You know what? Okay, the money has been spent. Let's see what our sweet, sweets tax dollars are paying for. This is the final battle.
04:27 With you at my side, we will demolish the deep state. We will expel the war mongers from our government. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communist, Marxist, and fascists. We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. Weird. I have the exact same inner monologue when I'm... walking to the office bathroom.
04:50 Very strange. And aside from the legality of it, this ad is making some questionable artistic choices. Look, if you want to film an ad where it looks like Trump fired everyone from the Jennifer Hudson Spirit Tunnel, fine. But why does it start with a six-second close-up of a storage closet?
05:16 I mean, is that supposed to be a metaphor for where they're going to lock up the deep stick? or is that like, is that the closet Stephen Miller sleeps in during the day? Or is it just where they're storing the footage they shot that doesn't have a fucking storage closet in it? The point is, spending taxpayer money on a campaign ad is clearly indefensible. So, let's see how the White House defensible's it. But the administration rejects such a criticism.
05:43 A White House release declaring, The announcements are very clearly not campaign ads. President Trump is not on the ballot, and there is no call to action. Right, right. It can't be a campaign ad because Trump is not even on the ballot. It's just, I feel like
05:58 I heard someone say something different. So I'm asking you to pretend that I'm on the ballot. I'm on the ballot. I'm on the ballot. He didn't just say it. He said it three times in a row. He's trying to Beetlejuice himself onto the ballot.
06:18 But there is one of, other thing that makes me think this is a campaign ad, which is that this is literally a campaign ad they ran two years ago. It's the exact same footage. And you'd think even just to cover their ass they would film a new ad unless they thought about it and we're like, you know, we can't do a new ad. That shot of the storage closet is just too fucking good, you know? We're never going to top it. I mean, if you, if you didn't If you didn't want to film a whole new ad, maybe there's a line you could think about cutting.
06:54 We will expel the warmongers from our government. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. That warmongers line hits different in 2026, doesn't it? Major O.J. Simpson looking for the real killer vibes on that one. But let's move on to another TV commercial that's stirring up a controversy.
07:15 This one is definitely a campaign ad, and it comes from the great, state up. It comes from the okay state of Arkansas. Sarah Huckabee Sanders releases an ad attacking welfare, and MAGA pundits are mad. Meet Brad. Brad has turned relaxing
07:33 into a full-time profession. But you, you actually work hard. You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work. Now, no, hold out here. Are we sure we want this guy?
07:49 in the workforce? I don't want Dr. Brad leaving cheeseballs inside me after surgery, okay? Why are Maga pundits mad about this anti- welfare ad? Can we see the rest of it? That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
08:06 Almost there. Now, more Arkansasans are working than ever before. Even Brad. Okay, so the message is welfare cheat should get a job. Now, Now I really don't see what conservatives are upset about.
08:27 Daily Wire writer Matt Walsh saying Republicans don't have the balls to do this ad with, quote, Shaniqua as the villain. Okay, you know what? I think I'm beginning to see it here, but go ahead. Say more. Another commentator accused Huckabee Sanders of having, quote, the audacity to dishonestly mock young white men as welfare queens. And one more says that the ad, quote, villainizes a white man. know exactly what a stereotypical welfare recipient looks like. Yes. Exactly. Stereotypically speaking, you shouldn't show a white man on welfare.
09:06 You should show a white man who's a school shooter, okay? That would be more appropriate. Do you guys have any more constructive suggestions? Well, what they should have done is they should have had, you know, Brad next to, you know, I don't know, Laquisha. or something, and then just, you know, put in some other characters in, so like your equal opportunity offenders.
09:30 Okay, well, first of all, Brad's living in his parents' basement. You think he can pull a babe like Laquisha, Dream-On. And also, make the cast more diverse. It's such a weird argument for this group. There should be a non-binary person in a wheelchair represented there as well. Conservatives are going to angry brainstorm themselves
09:56 into making Hamilton too. But obviously, these guys weren't looking to improve anything. They were already on their way to the pity party. It's not a great time to be a strapping young white dude in America. The white man has been systematically discriminated against, locked out of jobs. The only group in America that there's no taboo to attack whatsoever is white men. It is tone deaf. It is disgraceful.
10:23 This should be taken down, and there should be an apology to the young white, men in this country. Fair enough. To all the white men who saw a clip of a guy in his basement contributing nothing to society and you said, hey, stop making fun of me. I'm very sorry. But look, I'm obviously not the guy who needs to answer for this ad. But in the interest of racial harmony, we managed to find the person responsible for
10:52 this controversy. So joining us now to talk about Brad. Please welcome Brad. Whatever your thing is. Okay. Thank you, Brad. But I mean, wait, why are you back in your basement? I thought you got a job. Yeah, I kind of lost it.
11:17 I was late to work one time by like four or five weeks, and my boss got so mad. Oh, I mean, oh, Brad, I mean, come on, buddy. I thought you got it together. I know, I know I gotta do better. Sorry, I was talking to the game. Yeah, yeah. I know you were talking to the game.
11:43 Can we focus here? because look you upset a lot of conservatives Brad they want an apology look Jordan this is all a big misunderstanding like what my dumb boss thought I was jerking off in the break room Brad were you jerking off in the break room oh but you were already in the bathroom you know forget it what what is this misunderstanding that Jordan you got to believe me I never meant to be a caricature of white people the intention was to make me a caricature of poor people, lazy, sloppy, constantly eating cheese puffs.
12:37 Brad, stop, stop, Brett, they're not, they're not, they're not, they're not going anywhere near your mouth, Brad. Well, to be honest, they think you should be black. You don't think I've tried, ween? But then other people get even more mad at me? Brad, like, you gotta educate yourself. There's a whole racial history. Hey, hey, instead of pick your nose with the grabber, you're on TV, you idiot.
13:25 I don't wanna be. Safe. Clarity between jerk-offs. See, like, even this. This is what those right-wing podcasters are upset about. They think you're a caricature of them. No way. Those guys are so cool.
13:52 I'm nothing like them. All I do is just sit on my ass all day. all day. Yeah, well, that's, that's kind of like that. Well, all I do is shout at my TV. Yeah, again, that's a lot like that. But I'm afraid of change. Okay, yeah, well, we get it. We get it. And I don't look good in a suit, and I smell weird. Stop making parallels, Brad. Look, you know what? I think this interview was a mistake. Is there, is there anything else you want to say before you go? I would point out that Republican leaders have, have let their base pushed them so far to the racist
14:30 all right that even Sarah Huckabee Sanders is too woke for them. And I would warn my fellow white dudes that in this critique they've adopted the very same race-based identity politics they were decrying just years before. Wow.
14:46 Brian! That's a pretty sophisticated reading of all of this. You might be more mature than I thought. Thank you, Jordan. Now, may I please use your break room to wash my hands? Absolutely not. No way. Brad from his basement, everybody.
15:09 We come back and we say goodbye to our favorite Americans. Don't go away. Birthday, but while we celebrate 250 years, let's not forget all those we lost along the way. So please give a respectful silence as Michael Costa presents America 250 in Memorium. Memorial. It's time to remember Orium. All those folks who are today. dead morium they are really, really dead
16:11 oh I'm sorry to interrupt who are these people those are the first Americans who died you said you wanted an in memoriam of Americans so I'm going in order from the top fellas I'm sorry I didn't mean every American who's ever died I meant like the prominent Americans.
16:51 Oh, I'm sorry. I thought all lives matter. Like that like that T-shirt I bought you, which, by the way, you never wear that. Let's not get into that. Okay, can we just, can we speed this thing up a little bit? Sure.
17:08 Fellas, let's double time. It's five, six, seven, eight. We're remembering you faster, remembering you faster. Remember, remembered, remembered, remembered, remembered, remembered, Remembered, remembered, remembered, remembered, remembered, remember. But even at this pace, this is way too slow, man. We're going to be here for like eight months. It's actually nine months.
17:32 I've been rehearsing. I'm sorry, no disrespect to everyone else, but there's just limited to the Americans who had a real impact on our country. All right. Fine. You want to be a real star-fucker about it? We remember you. Never forget you. We salute you.
18:00 You think of... You said you wanted, and I quote, dead f***ks who had an impact on America. Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, that's not. That's not who I like, you know what? Just, can we skip to the end? Then? The whole list.
18:31 Yeah, just wrap up. Fine. Never forget you. We salute you. Not yet, but every American is a future dead American. Oh, sorry if I wanted to honor you. Why am I wearing that All Lives Matter T-shirt? It's what you were wearing when you died in the toilet drowning accident.
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22:00 It's nice, right? I imagine it would be. I'm like people clapping beats people not clapping. Yes, this is one. This is one of the best parts about this job is if they don't clap, we just do it again for me. So you got to get into this comedy business. Oh, I thought it was like some sort of a blackmail thing if they don't clap. Well, we do have the Social Security numbers of everybody here, so we will use it against them.
22:23 This book is remarkable. Thank you. But people are talking about it because right out the gate, it's shortlisted for the Booker Prize. And the New York Times had a wild review that called it The Book of the Decade, if not the Century. We only have 75 to five more years to go. Yeah, there's a lot of time, but still 26 is pretty good. Twenty-six is pretty good. What do you do when you...
22:47 I mean, that's such a massive... to drop at your feet. What does that feel like? What do you do with that? Well, what you don't do is impress your mother. No? Yeah. She's still like, those gutters not going to clean themselves.
23:01 Maybe she'll read it, though. Has she read it? No, but I figured best of the century, she'll finally be impressed. She was like, I don't know. Maybe last century, there's a lot of good stuff since that last century. Yeah.
23:17 You had to beat some pretty high praise that that's such. And I'm like, you know, she's like, I've cleaned her poop. I've not, I'll never be impressive. I've been talking with my mom about reading this book. Really? Yeah, well, because my mom. That's going to be a moment. It is.
23:34 Well, this book is intent. For people I've not read this book yet, how would you describe this book? I'd say, you know, it's a book that's set between the 80s and the 2000s, and it's about a bunch of gay men who tried to put on this sort of subversive play in secret in Jamaica, which is not the most open-minded place, reggae people. And in the midst of it, they're attacked and pretty brutally beaten up. One of them dies.
23:59 And some weeks after all of that attack, two of the men just vanished without a trace. Spoiler alert, sorry. They vanish without a trace. I'm not going to say if they're found or not. But what happens next is that the characters who are left behind or left the reel from it, and they make all these wild decisions,
24:18 some race back into the closet, some try to live a normal life. One spends 20 years plotting revenge. And then that's what happens, basically. I mean, it is, I love this book. I found it very profound in, it's, there are a lot of illiterate devices here that are, that tell the story from a bunch of different angles. But you don't shy away from graphic violence.
24:43 There's cruelty that you live in for a while. There's the sex in it is graphic, and it's discussed thoroughly throughout when I think a lot about my mom reading this. But I do think what is remarkable about this, and you ask a lot from a reader. It's a 600-page book that you live, you don't shy away from any of these issues.
25:04 And I found, as a reader, like, to be challenged in that way, is something only an art form like literature can do. You sit with these people, you know these people. But I do think about the mothers who read the New York Times who might not know your work beforehand are going to pick this thing up and they're going to read the novel of the century.
25:22 Do you... Do you want to hear what they've been saying to me? I want to know. Yes. So the mothers who have been picking this up come to me and go, oh my God, your book is making me so hot. Yeah. And they'll go like, you know, I'm hot right now. And I go...
25:38 I know. And I go, and if I played for that team, damn girl. Yeah, they haven't done that. the research. Yeah, so I, I, when I said when you're going to, you might have an uncomfortable time with your mom. I think you're going to be uncomfortable. Not her. Are you saying my mom's going to leave my dad because she's going to read this book? Is that who's disappearing my mom? The book I wrote two weeks, two books before this, like I came up and go, dude, your book made me gay. And I'm like, I found it become what preacher has said the gay is.
26:12 You know? I'm saying, there's, I, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's, it's, it's, that's, it's, it's, it's, that's, It's a testament to this book. There's times where it's not very enviable to be gay in Jamaica. No, it's not. I don't read this and like, I should be gay in Jamaica. Yeah, I didn't think so. For a while, I went to the church because the church made me straight. But you know, about the violence and the sex, I think you just have to be real.
26:35 They can't oversell it because then it becomes this kind of porn. And you can't undersell it either because then you don't get a sense of what's really happening and what's really going on. So you kind of have to be a reporter and just get the story. And that's, you know, that's it. You know, I remember somebody saying about gratuitous sex. And I remember thinking, if you're not having gratuitous sex, what are you having, boo?
27:02 You know? As for the violence, violence is violent. I was on this show once, and they asked me about it. And I think I got fed up, and I'm like, who are you kidding? you know you love it. But then I describe the type of movies they'll watch where the hero kills 100 people and then walks off, not even with his girlfriend, about his dog.
27:26 And I said, yeah, you didn't think about any of those guys who died, did you? And I was like, and you think I'm weird. But violence has suffering, violence as consequences. When I write for TV, I always ask them, so what gunshot do you want? Do you want a Hollywood gunshot or a real gunshot? Because if I shoot you in the foot, in the Hollywood thing,
27:48 it's a flesh wound. As you didn't realize, you're going to die. Well, you talk about writing for TV, you're right. I mean, this book, I feel like only lives in, I mean, well, I hope it lives in another format if you can make money off of that and somebody buys it and makes it. I'm always for making money. You're always for making, so I don't want to take that away.
28:06 But I think what is remarkable about this, unlike watching John Wick, where after two hours you watch 1,000 people die. Yeah. Like, this is a book that asks you to. sit with it for weeks and spend time with it. Do you think about the rhythms of graphicness and how a reader reached it? I know you listen to music while you write.
28:24 And music is such a profound element throughout this story. I think it really sets it in a time and a place. The characters reach out for not the reggae music of their homeland many times. They go to American music and Kurt Cobain and what have you. Do you think about the rhythms of music when you write a book like this? Yeah.
28:42 I think it because it came from that generation. Some of the stuff that, you know, like there are some passages about Bruce Springsteen, which may have come from me. They're pretty erotic passages about Bruce Springsteen. It's a lot about that Bored and Run cover. I'm telling you, you don't have to worry about your mom. It's going to say it focuses more on him putting on jeans than it does the songwriting. You won't have to worry about her.
29:08 But, you know, music was, you know, I grew up for the generation where you listen to the smits in your bedroom. Yeah, right? So music is constant companion. You know, we're the first generation to have like walkman, walkman, whatever you pluralize that with. And it's, you know, it becomes part of your language. It's part of your vocabulary. I think at one point Jordan says in the book,
29:34 music was the first thing to love him back, you know, which is all I used to feel about a lot of stuff in there. Like, you know, I remember where I was in Kirk Cobain died. I remember where I was when Shinna O'Connor died, and these are two very, very, very important things to me. But also, you know, these characters are dealing with a music where their own country's music don't like them. Their own country's music said they should die.
30:00 So they're going to reach for something that will embrace them, so they'll go listen to Relax Don't Do It. And I love it when, like, church ladies go, I love that little song. I'm like, you have no idea what that song's about it. How do you talk about it? You grew up in Jamaica. Yeah.
30:15 You live here now. You wrote this here. I'm curious what the reaction has been back there. It's a harrowing tale of what is happening in Jamaica in the 80s, 90s, 2000. And a lot of the laws that are on the books are still on the books right now. They're not supporting the LGBTQ community there. Yeah, there's a lot of that. But also, you know, the book ends in 2005.
30:40 I remember going back a few years ago, and there was a LGBT. Association for students, which I didn't even know it existed, and I'm giving them their It Gets Better Speech, you know, things are hard now, and you're like, we don't want to hear that crap. Do you know Beyonce? And I'm like, and I realize I'm surrounded by these teenagers who are like, you know what, we reserve the right to be superficial, you know, a quarrel for us is Beyonce versus Riri. They were like, not what I'll get shot. or so on. And there is that. There's a sense that the country has evolved and come a long way.
31:21 But you don't have to go far to go. You know, I haven't gone far enough yet, though. Yeah. Because, you know, I moved back in the way. I have a house there. And you ask a taxi driver who's Marilyn and Jane. They go, oh, you mean the gay one? And I, you know, I wrote a book. Yeah. I wrote a few of them. So it is definitely different from the world of this book. But I still think when you enter a room, you still kind of make a threat assessment. What's going to happen here?
31:54 Can I even swish or not? Right. I mean, I think that's remarkable. There's so many passages in here that get inside the mindset of, like, the threat assessments wherever they walk into spaces. It's curious, I believe you say in the acknowledgments that I'm paraphrasing, but it's a work of fiction, but all of this is true. Yeah.
32:13 You also, I heard you said this is an act of record keeping in some ways. And I think we are in a curious time right now where you see institutions like the Smithsonian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you see literature's role in record keeping and keeping the stories alive for the future? Well, one thing literature does, and the literature I write, or like Edwidge Dantica writes, is you're responding to Eurasia. So the stories aren't there in the first place. So you're writing them into being,
32:43 and that's the first thing. Eventually, history catches up. You know, I'll tell you where history changes every day, depending on who's writing it. So sometimes the stories that we need or the stories that reflect on people who are not leaders, you know, who are not famous, have to come from fiction,
33:02 has to come from the books. You know, there are certain things you're going to learn about about this out from Huckleberry, that you're not going to learn from, you know, from Shelby Foot. And what fiction does is that it starts to create this sort of internal history of how things were and how things could be that becomes very important. And I think when you read history through how people actually live it, which is what I think a novel can do, then it becomes more important to you and you realize
33:30 why you need to keep it, why you need to preserve it. Tell me about the act of disappearing, what that means in a novel like this. It means a lot of things. One of the reasons where I could write it was that was a pretty good disappearer. I remember, you know, the kids who would call me names would take, like, the 6 o'clock bus to school. And I realized if I take 6.15, I still get to school. Or if I leave school later, or if I just don't talk. And I remember, I knew I'd pull this off when the next door they were, came over to my mom's house
34:01 and asked for recommendations on schools in America, because clearly my mom. has gone to school in America. And she's like, he passes your house twice a day every day. And I was like, damn, I did it. I vanished. I was reading a lot of X-Men at the time, too. So I really thought I like. Was that a conscious choice at the time that you were?
34:22 I really thought out of superpower. And no one's just called being rude. But every now, and people go, weren't you at my party? I'm like I was. But do you see it as an act of choice or an act of necessity? I think it's both. I think when you're in the margins, sometimes, you know, in order to not have the light turned on you
34:44 and in order to not have the oppressors come and knock on your door, you find ways. And you know, Jamaica is small. So you have to learn out to vanish right in front of people. And sometimes it's to give them a reason to not look. And I think which is what some of the gay men did. It was like, how normal can I look? So like going into the closet is disappearing.
35:05 so many. I did it by going into the church, and that was wild because they're surrounded by church gays, and they were a bunch. You talk about the church gays. That's a movie here in the book as well. There's a scene in it where I outed one of them because this movie came out of the church gay was like, oh my God, I'm going to do a dance tribute in praise of the crucifixion. And I looked at it and my god, you know what?
35:31 Don't just stand here, let's get to it. Strike a pose. There's nothing to it. And the horror on his face. And I'm like, mm-hmm. I see. You're trying to disappear, but I see you. Yeah, I see you, girl. It is a remarkable work.
35:54 Congratulations on It and All of the Accolades. The Disappearers is available now. Marlon James. You got me for nothing, too. I don't take my salary. Do you believe that no other president, they think that no other president has ever served without receiving their salary,
36:27 I decided not to, including in my first term. Do I get thanks for it? None. Nobody ever says, thank you very much, sir. Oh, boy, oh boy. Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching The Daily Show, wherever you get your podcasts. Watch the Daily Show weeknights at 11, 10 Central on Comedy Central, and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus.
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