The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Supreme Court Victory for LGBTQ Employees | Stacey Abrams & Alicia Keys

Episode Date: June 16, 2020

The Supreme Court rules to protect LGBTQ employees' rights, Stacey Abrams discusses "Our Time Is Now," and Alicia Keys talks about her new song "Perfect Way to Die." Learn more about your ad-choices ...at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Comedy Central. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Hey everybody, what's going on? Uh, welcome to another episode of the Daily Social Distancic Show. I'm Trevor Noah, and still in my apartment, still doing the show. And you know what's crazy is, thi thi's thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi that's that's thi that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's th. I th. I th. I th. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thiiiiiiiiiii that's that's that's thiii thi thi thi I'm Trevor Noah and still in my apartment, still doing the show. And you know what's crazy is, here we are. Another Monday, another Monday in the middle of Corona and in the middle of protests about police brutality. And yet, it's another Monday of another police brutality incident, like another story that has people going how long? How much?
Starting point is 00:01:11 When is it enough? The story is out of Atlanta. The story. Rashad Brooks. And forgive me if I get any of the details wrong, but as far as I know, you've probably seen the video, you've read the story. Rishad was in his car in a Wendy's drive-through. He was drunk or tipsy or he had had alcohol and he fell asleep. Fell asleep people are
Starting point is 00:01:38 driving around his car and so somebody at the Wendy's called the cops. The cops arrive at Wendy's and you know they get Rashout out of the car. and they start talking to him to him to him to him to him to him to him him to him to him to him to him to him to him to him to him their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their their their their. their. their. their. their their. their. their. their their. their. their their. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. thea. thean. thean. their. their. their their their their their their the Wendy's called the cops. The cops arrive at Wendy's and, you know, they get Rayshad out of the car. And they start talking to him for about 30 minutes, you know, asking him, is he drunk, why is he driving, what's going on? I mean, it seems pretty standard. And the whole time throughout thising to the cops. And you have the cops asking him the questions. And what was interesting for me about this video is, like in the beginning, it seems like everything is going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:02:12 The cops are talking to him like a person. They're not being, they're not being agro, they're not being disrespectful, they're not being disrespectful, they're not being respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful respectful, the calling them sir, he's not he's not cussing them out. He's he's offering to walk everything is going well. Everything is going well. And then in one moment, in just a few seconds, every part of that normal story turns into the abnormal ending that we've come to know as interactions with police and black people. Because the police try and arrest him, he resists and he wrestles with the police. In the scuffle, they try and tase him.
Starting point is 00:03:01 While he's being tased, he grabs the taser, he gets up, he runs away. And I'm missing a few beats of the story because I don't want to take you through too much of it, but that's essentially what happens. Rayshod runs away and the police chase him. As he's running, he shoots off the taser, and one of the cops switches his weapons to a gun and shoots Rashard two or th...... th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the thi. the thi. thi. the the toe, the cops switches his weapons from a taser to a gun and shoots Rashad two or three times in the back and he's dead. And immediately everyone goes, you know, everyone goes to their battle stations. That's what plagues me about these stories. Everyone just goes to their battle stations. You know, immediately people go, well, once again, another example of black people resisting the cops and being criminals and why are you driving drunk and why are you running
Starting point is 00:03:49 away from the police and what, and then, of course, you have other people, you know, in their battle station saying, oh, of course, another story of cops who immediately shoot a black thrown for just sleeping in his car. But like, it's messy. No one wants to admit that the thing is messy. thak. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi thi thi, they, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thr- thr-n't thr-n't thr-n't thr-n' thr-ni. thr-ni triea' trivva' thr-niiiiiiiiiiia' thriii. their the admit that the thing is messy. It's f-fee messy. If this story didn't happen now, maybe we would be looking at it differently, but it's a messy story. It's not the perfect story. And in a weird way, it not being the perfect story means we should look at it in the most perfect way possible. We should try and break it down and understand how something like this comes to be because we don't always the th. th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, this, th, th, th, thi, thi, this, thi, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this this this this th th th th th thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thiiii. thi. thiii. this is this is this is this is this is this this this this is th possible. We should try and break it down and understand how something like this comes to be because we don't always have video like this, we don't always have stories like this.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And we don't even always look at it like this. But let's just take a moment to talk about what happened. You have a man who is sleeping in his car. A man who's sleeping in his car, and he's drunk driving, was, was, and was, and's broken some law, a law not worth dying for. I think we can all agree on that. The police approach him, and even then I asked the question, why are armed police dealing with a man who's sleeping in his car?
Starting point is 00:04:57 He posed no threat to anybody, no one at Wendy's felt afraid, cars are driving around him. He's not stopping people from ordering food. So why are armed police there in the first place? That's the question I think, like, these are all the questions we'd ask. Why? Why? Why? Why are armed police? The first people who have to go and respond to somebody who's sleeping in their car who is drunk? Secondly, why do the police not give... I mean, the man says to them, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the the the the the the their, their, their, their, the mean, the man says to them, I will walk home. If you're protecting and serving people,
Starting point is 00:05:27 what is the true purpose of you not wanting people to drive drunk? It's that you don't want them killing themselves and other people. In this instance, no one has died because of his driving, and he hadn't killed himself because of his driving. And so as a police officer, maybe it's because I live in a thi thi thi thi thtrying to protect and serve, not trying to write enough tickets, not trying to get enough people arrested, not trying to fill quotas, no, they're trying to protect and serve. In that instance, you would hope a policeman would say, sir, you do not look fit to drive, you the take you home. We didn't find you driving drunk. We found you asleep in a car.
Starting point is 00:06:05 So we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The country's burning down because of the way black people are dealt with by the police. So let us show you just in a moment that it doesn't always have to end the way you think it has to end. I'm not saying they had to do that, but it would have been nice. They arrest him. He fights.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Now, you know what's messy about this whole thing is we forget you are dealing with a drunk person. You're dealing with somebody. The very fact that you're not allowed to sign a contract when you're drunk. The very fact that you're not allowed to do anything when you're drunk. Tell us something about drunk, we know what a drunk person is in society. They're not gonna do the logical thing. So as a policeman, if a drunk person does an illogical thing, like, I feel like you should acknowledge the fact that they're drunk. It doesn't mean they deserve to die.
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Starting point is 00:07:36 the onus is upon them to make sure the situation doesn't get out of hand. You're sober, he's sober. How are two sober men wrestling with a drunk person on the ground? How does it get that far? How does it end with him losing his life? And people always say the same thing. They go, well you know if you didn't do that, then you would still be alive. They say the shit all the time if you didn't do that. But the the truth is the ifs keep on changing. Oh if you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the you the you the the the the didn't do that but the the truth is the ifs keep on changing. Oh if you didn't resist arrest if you didn't resist arrest if you didn't resist arrest you would still be alive or if you didn't run away from the
Starting point is 00:08:14 cops you would still be alive well if you didn't have a toy gun and were 12 years old in the middle of a park then you would have still been alive well you know, if you weren't wearing a hoodie, you would have still been alive. Well, you know, if you didn't talk back to the cops, you would have still been alive. If you weren't sleeping in your bed as a black woman, you would have still been alive. There's one common thread beyond all the ifs. If you weren't black, maybe you'd still be alive. That's what I have to say. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look,
Starting point is 00:09:10 starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So let's talk about some of the other news that's going on right now. As you may or may not know, June is Pride Month. It's the month where we take a moment to celebrate how far LGBTIQ-I-A-plus rights have come while still acknowledging all the work that still needs to be done. It's also the month where J.K.R.R.R.K.R.K.R.K.K.R.K.R.J.J.J.J.R.R.J.R.J. t it it it it is, it is t it's.J.J.J. t it's. try. try. try. the the the the the the the the the month, it's try. the month, it's the month, it's the month, it's try. the month, where, where, where, where, where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where where tries, try, try, try, try, it try.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K.K. the the the the the the month, it's the month, the month, the month, the month, the month, the month, where we the month, where the month, where the been made worse by the Trump administration. They killed a rule that blocks doctors from refusing to treat transgender people, and on Saturday, they announced a new proposal allowing single-sex homeless shelters to turn
Starting point is 00:09:55 away transgender people who are, quote, not rarely, the right gender. And you know, it's amazing that even during a pandemic and national protests, Trump has still found a way to say, screw you to the LGBTQ community.... It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, to, it's, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to and national protests, Trump has still found a way to say, screw you to the LGBTQ community. It's almost like if Hannibal Lecter was on his way to kill someone and then took a quick detour to burn down a community garden. How much hate does one person need? So this Pride Month wasn't looking great.
Starting point is 00:10:18 But then, this happened. A major civil rights decision out of the United to to to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. thi, thi, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, the, threat.e, tr tr tr tr tr tr trueu.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e.e, toe, out of the United States Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has ruled that LGBT Americans are protected by the anti-discrimination laws of this country at their workplaces. They cannot be fired or otherwise discriminated against at work simply because they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender. It was written by Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by Chief Justice John Roberts. Gorsuch appointed by President Trump, Chief Justice John Roberts, the leader of the conservative wing of the court.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It is a six to three opinion, which in ringing terms holds that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 encompasses lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people in this country, protecting them from discrimination by their employers. Yes, gay people across America just got a huge win, and Mike Pence just got a huge aneurysm. The Supreme Court has ruled that people cannot be discriminated against at work simply because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And the reason is because they are protected by the 1964 Civil Rights Act. And you've got to admit, that is one bad-ass law to still be helping more groups get equal rights. I mean, we have to buy a new iPhone every two years, but somehow this act is rolling out new features 56 years later. And obviously, this should all be basic decency. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. thi, th. th. thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. iPhone every two years, but somehow this act is rolling out new features 56 years later. And obviously, this should all be basic decency. All right? Nobody should be fired just for being gay.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I mean, the only reason you should be fired is if you're doing your job poorly. Or if you're doing your job so well that you make the rest of us look bad. I mean, then you also need to go. The Supreme Court ruling isn't the only good news for human rights that is coming out right now. Because over the weekend, Black Lives Matter rallies continued spreading around the globe. Black Lives Matter and anti-racism protests continue around the world. Thousands in Europe, Asia, and the South Pacific continued marching to call for equality. Black Lives Matters still reverberating around the world. Massive protests in Japan, New Zealand, South Korea.
Starting point is 00:12:27 This is the U.S. Embassy there. Thousands of people have formed a human chain in Berlin to unite against racism and discrimination. Participants were asked to wear masks and to keep socially distance from one another, and they were linked by colorful ribbons, forming what organizers called a ribbon of solidarity. Protesters chanting Black Trans Lives Matter outside the Brooklyn Museum. A number of groups took part in yesterday's demonstration with transgender activists leading a Marfs. Nearly 30,000 people all dressed in white in honor of black trans lives. It represented unity in the fight for equality for justice for two deeply marginalized groups in New York City.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yes, from Brooklyn to Europe and all the way to New Zealand, thousands of people from all walks of life are still assembling in the streets to say that black lives matter. And it really is a powerful thing to see. I mean the last thing this many people agreed on was that Carol Baskin probably killed her husband. I mean, they're even coming out in Japan. They don't even have black people in Japan. Japan is basically saying, when we finally see a black person, we will welcome them with open arms. And as the whole world is watching these rallies taklauble.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's clear that one person is starting thia jealous. Donald Trump. President of the United States, and the only human who has ever fired a Secretary of State and Meatloaf. Trump hasn't been able to hold a rally of his own since before the coronavirus pandemic. But after months of waiting, he announced that his first rally in months would take place this Friday in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:14:01 There was just one problem. A rare reversal from from tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha tha, thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the the the the the the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. tooooi. toa. toa. toa. toa. theean. thi. thi. thi. Trump, now delaying his controversial Tulsa rally. It was initially scheduled for Juneteenth, a day marking the end of slavery. But after criticism for the timing and Tulsa's history as a city scarred by century-old race riots, the president tweeted, Many of my African-American friends and supporters have reached out to suggest that we consider changing the date out of respect for this holiday. I have therefore decided to move our rally to Saturday, June 20th in order to honor their request.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Now, one way to look at this is that Trump is so oblivious. He didn't even realize how messed up it would be to have a rally on Juneteenth in a city where one of America's worst racial massacres took place. But I guess the glass half full version of the story is that even someone as racially insensitive as Trump is not recognizing the importance of Juneteenth and that's not nothing. I mean let's be honest a year ago if you told Trump that he couldn't hold a rally on Juneteenth, what would he have said? He probably would have been like, if I cared about emancipation, I would have freed
Starting point is 00:15:09 millennia a long time ago. So the point is, Trump is recognizing in his own small grudging way the importance of Juneteenth. And I think it's good that Trump made the decision to move the rally. Because nobody was buying his first solution, which was to pretend that the rally was for June 10th. Your rally in Oklahoma is set for June 19th. Was that on purpose? No, but I know exactly what you're going to say. Well, I'm just asking. It's on the day of African-American emancipation. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:43 The fact that I'm having a rally on that day, you can really think about that very positively as a celebration. Because a rally to me is a celebration. It's gonna be really a celebration and it's an interesting date. It wasn't done for that reason, but it's an interesting date. But it's a celebration. Really? You wanted to celebrate the end of slavery with a stadium full of white people? What is this dude trying to gentrify Juneteenth? It's a celebration. What a bullshit excuse?
Starting point is 00:16:09 You know who Trump is? Trump is that dad who tries to act like he didn't just forget his kid's birthday. All right, son, I'm off to the bar. Oh, but daddy, it's my friends. You know, I'm glad that Trump didn't go through with this rally. Because if he did, there's a good chance, there was going to be one black family who showed up, thinking it really was a Juneteenth celebration. Hey, I brought the potato salad. Oh, shit, I'm misjudged this situation. So, luckily, Trump seems to have solved the Juneteenth rally dilemma. But as is usually the case with Trump, it's
Starting point is 00:16:45 never just one problem. Because while his rally no longer conflicts with Juneteenth, it still has a major conflict with the coronavirus. With President Trump now just days away from his first rally since the coronavirus outbreak, a new warning this morning from Tulsa's Health Department director. Dr. Bruce Dart telling Tulsa World a large indoor rally with 19 to 20,000 people is a huge risk factor today in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Noting a significant increase in cases, Dr. Dart says he's concerned about our ability to protect anyone who attends, including our ability to ensure the president stays safe.
Starting point is 00:17:21 A acknowledging the risk, the campaign is now requiring anyone who attends to sign a liability waiver, giving up their right to hold the campaign or venue responsible if they contract the virus. Okay, look, I know that social distancing has been falling out of fashion recently, but it's one thing for people to be gathering outdoors, wearing masks to fight against police brutality and racial oppression. It's another thing for thousands of people to gather indoors, probably without masks, to watch a boxing match between a man's mouth and his brain. I mean, the fact that Trump is making attendees agree to not sue him if they get coronavirus at his rally,
Starting point is 00:17:57 should be a pretty good signal that this whole thing is a bad idea. It also shows you how full of shit Trump has been about coronavirus this whole time. Yeah, because what does the contract even say? Promise not to sue me if you get this deadly disease which is basically a hoax and not that bad but totally under control and you can cure it with bleach? Also, how is Donald Trump going to tell other people they can't sue him? That is the most hypocritical thing I've thiii. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. the thi. the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. the the theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. the. the. the. thing I've ever heard. Suing people is Trump's favorite thing in the entire world. As we speak, the man is suing Yankee candles for not having a hot dog scent. So, either way, it looks like this Trump rally is officially happening. Corona virus be damned.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And if you are planning on going to this rally, I mean, go with God, but just remember, every time Trump makes you sign something in advance, it means you're about to get screwed. When we come back, I'll be speaking to activist and former Democratic candidate for Georgia governor, Stacey Abrams. Stick around. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. My first guest tonight is Stacey Abrams, an activist and leader in the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Earlier today, we spoke about her new book, Our Time is Now, and her fight to end voter suppression. Stacey Abrams, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you for having me or not. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. Having you and not at the same time. We're living through a very strange time where, you know, it felt like coronavirus was the biggest issue affecting America. And very quickly, we've come to realize that that the the the the the the the the the biggest issue affecting America. And very quickly, we've come to realize that there is a much longer standing issue that America has had,
Starting point is 00:20:11 that people are now standing up against and fighting about in the streets. And that's, you know, racial disparity, police brutality, the lack of justice for black people in this country, for brown people who are oftentimes oppressed. You have lived that life in more ways than one, you know, as a black woman and as someone who's been in politics, you've experienced America in a very unique way. How do you feel about what America is going through right now? I think that we do ourselves a disservice if we actually separate these moments from one another. What has happened with COVID-19 is that it exposed the fractures and the inequities in our health care system. And the expectations we have where essential workers, essentially were the people we work
Starting point is 00:20:54 protecting, but we demanded their obeisance to our needs anyway. And then what we saw happened with George Floyd and Brianna Taylor and Amott Arborey and Ray Sharp Brooks just in the last months or so, what happened to Tony McDade is that we see that part of the dehumanization that we experience with COVID translates into how we are viewed by those who are charged with protecting us, that police brutality, that systemic injustice, that systemic inequities are all the part of the original sin of America, which is the devaluation and the dehumanization of people of color, primarily and most clearly black people. Atlanta has become a hotbed of these conversations.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Georgia has become a hotbed of these conversations. Everything from Ahmad Abreu to Rashad Brooks, as you just mentioned, has thrown Atlanta into turmoil. You know, you've had police officials resigning, you've had the mayor coming out and condemning the violence, and it feels like Atlanta is more on edge than we've seen, I mean, almost ever. When you look at what has happened, what is happening and the conversations around it, where do you think America needs to go? Where do you think America needs to go? Where do you think Atlanta needs to go?
Starting point is 00:22:06 Where do you think Georgia needs to go? I approach this in a different space because my first major activism on my own was in the 92 Rodney King protest. It was being a part of a community, separated by gates to college on one side, housing projects on the other, but we were all cordoned off and tear-gassed by the city of Atlanta, by the state of Georgia. I understand the outrage and the pain that is discomforting to some and offensive to others, because I understand where it begins. And what we have to understand is that these moments cannot be allowed to dissipate and let us return to not a normal but to a state of numbness, where we just accept that our deaths are going
Starting point is 00:22:52 to happen. We accept that our degradation is going to happen. My hope and my expectation, the reason I wrote this book is because there is a pathway for more, but it doesn't happen if we just assume that we get what we get and we don't deserve more. It really is interesting that you've written a book that I think affects so many, including yourself in a really personal way. To write a book about voter suppression, you know, is too many people would be a tall
Starting point is 00:23:20 task because they'd say, can you prove it? Can you show it? We just saw primaries take place in Georgia, where people were forced to wait an hour. Some people even left before they could vote. What was interesting is that this took place in predominantly African-American communities, but also in Republican communities as well,
Starting point is 00:23:37 that are predominantly white. My question to you is, when I look at the book that you're writing now and what's happening in Georgia, what are you learning from Georgia that America needs to learn about voting and protecting people's rights to vote? First of all, voter suppression has a singular way of being expressed in Georgia. I experienced it on Tuesday in 2020, and it's happened for the last 20 years, but what's singular to Georgia is not solely limited to Georgia, because we also watched on April the 7th as men and women were forced to stand in lines at the height of COVID-19 in Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:24:15 We saw the hours-long lines in Texas because of the shutdown of precincts. We know that in Nevada and South Carolina on Tuesday, while Georgia got the lion's share of the attention because of the size of our population, there were also challenges, hours-long lines because they shut down precincts in Clark County in Nevada. What we, at Fairfight, the organization I started, what we are trying to do, and what I'm trying to do through this book is make us pay attention to voter suppression now in the primaries so we can we we we we th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi th thi thi thi thi thi. thi thi. thi. thi. tho-a' tho-a' tho-in-upe, tho-upe, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the general because the other side the conservatives that have architected this suppression they hope that we give up they hope we look away and they hope that the conflagration and the that the explosions of anger and pain that they
Starting point is 00:24:58 basically die down before November and that we allow the system to continue the way it's been designed. What was interesting about Georgia was the fact that, you you you you you you you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you, you, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the system to continue the way it's been designed. What was interesting about Georgia was the fact that, you know, some Republican precincts were affected as well. Do you think that that undermines the argument of voter suppression or do you think it shows something else? It actually, it's the through line that I've tried to push since 2018 in specific, which is that the targets may be th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thi, thi, the, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the the the the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, thri, to, toean, toean, toean, toean, toea.ean, toean, throwneeeee, throwne, thr-a, th that the targets may be people of color, it may be young people, it may be the poor, but when you break the machinery of democracy, you break it for everyone. Incompetence and malfeasance, when they come together,
Starting point is 00:25:33 it can't distinguish who is the target and who is a bystander. And that's why you saw Republican communities, you know, areas that the Speaker of the House overseas, thoes, thoes, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, and tho, and tho, and, and tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and tho, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, tho, and, and, tho, and, tho, and, and, tho, tho, tho, tho, and, tho, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, the, the, the, the, theeeeeeeean, theean, thea, they, they, thea, thea, theaugh, and, thea, and, thea, and, and, theanthe Speaker of the House overseas, they couldn't vote, black folks couldn't vote, brown folks couldn't vote. It happens when you, when you harm the infrastructure of what holds us as a nation together, everyone suffers. They may not suffer in the same amount and not at the same time, but eventually it takes us all down. There's no getting around the fact that one of the reasons you've been put forth as a potential VP
Starting point is 00:26:09 is because you speak to so many of the issues that Americans are facing today and because many people feel like you would bolster Joe Biden's presidential run. You know, you would bring not just different angles, but I guess a different experience and a different demographic as well who support you. You know, we've shown, we've seen your numbers in Atlanta, we've seen how strong you're
Starting point is 00:26:29 with Hispanic voters, with younger voters, etc., that's been the biggest conversation in and around the name, Stacey Abrams. My question to you instead of, are you going to be the VP, etc., which I've seen you've been asked a thousand times is rather, what do you think the role of a vice president should be, especially in this climate? The role of a vice president is to be the chief lieutenant to the person in charge. It's to shore up where additional support is needed. It's to take on specific tasks when they need to be delegated, but most of all it is the the the th i it is is is to to to to to to to to to the to to to reae.. It is to to to to re delegated, but most of all it is to reaffirm for an entire nation that the leader sees them. And part of my background is that I come from a working poor community.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But as a legislator, I did the work of holding police accountable, passing legislation. I did the work of criminal justice reform, ensuring that people had access. I worked on concrete issues, helping bring together communities, as you pointed out, that are often separated. I was able to convince Republicans to work with me on environmental legislation, and I was able to get Republicans to do what's right to hold police accountable. I know how the systems work because I've been a part of them, but I also know how they work because I've been a victim of them. I come from an activist community and an activist family that believes you fix the problems you see, you don't lament them, you work on them.
Starting point is 00:27:51 And that's what I would do. And if I were so honored, it would be my role, any role, the role of any person who the vice president chooses to be his running mate and his partner, to use what we have to bring our experiences to add to the narrative of what America can be. And that's why I'm so excited to even have my name mentioned. I hope to have you back on again and again and again and again. And I hope everybody reads the book because I think every American really needs to understand how important it is to maintain the safety and sanctity of their vote. So Stacey Abrams, thank you so much for joining us on the show.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Thank you, Mr. Noah. It's been an honor. Thank you so much, Ms. Abrams. After the break, I'll be talking to the legendary Alicia Keys. Stay tuned. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling? But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today I spoke with Grammy-award-winning musician Alicia Keys. We talked about her new song, Perfect Way to Die, which speaks to everything that's happening in America right now, and we got to talk about how she's using her platform to raise awareness about Brianna Taylor. Check it out. Alicia Keys, welcome to talk about how she's using her platform to raise awareness about Brianna Taylor. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Alicia Keys, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Thank you. Thank you. How's it been for you? Have you been feeling with all of this conversation, communication so far away? I feel more connected and disconnected than ever before. You know, because everything we do is like this now, but then like, you know, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, their, their, their, their, their, their, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their you're feeling the same thing, you know, because everything we do is like this now, but then like, you know, you're talking to someone but they're not there and then I'm trying to see your face, but then I see my face in the corner because there's another picture and then the cameras in another. It's like, how are you dealing with, are you coping? Yeah, I mean, you, you, you, you, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, I, thi, I, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, thi, thi, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, th. th. th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You, th. You're, th. You're, th. You're, th. You're, th. You're, you, th. You, th. You're, th. You, th. You're, th. You're, th. You're, th. You're, the family is good, so that's that's step one. I think I definitely have gotten more used to communicating in this more digital
Starting point is 00:30:09 space where you know at first I was completely weirded out by it but now I'm embracing it and I feel you know I feel like I get it so working out. You you've written a new song and again you know Alicia Keys writes songs about like the journey of falling again, you know, Alicia Keys writes songs about love. Alicia Keys writes songs about like the journey of falling in love, you know, heartbreak, etc. But this is a different type of heartbreak. You know, you've written a song and and the title of the song is Perfect Way to Die. Tell me, tell me a little bit about the why of the song. Why did you write the song and and what does it signify to you you you you you you you you you you the the the th you the th you th you th you th you th you th you the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th. thi. tho thi. tho thoe, thoe, thi, thi, thi, to to to to to to to to to to tell to tell tell tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, tell, thoes, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, th. tho, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, thi, the, the, the is the is theeea theeea thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooes, the song and what does it signify to you? Wait to you hear it. I mean, oh my gosh. It really started the catalyst for the song was Mike
Starting point is 00:30:54 Brown and Sandra Bland. And so you hear these stories and you hear their stories in these lyrics. And the devastating thing is that it's never not going to be relevant. And where we are right now in the world and in this country, in America particularly, we are in a real, a real place that we can all see, that there is a major, this is the most major pandemic of all. You know, this deeply rooted racism, this police brutality, this treatment of black people that is just completely unacceptable to the point where daily we're seeing, you know, lives lost, people murdered for nothing, nothing for being black, you know, lives lost, people murdered for nothing, nothing, for being black, you know. And so this song really does encapsulate that and also the fire of the cities that we're all in,
Starting point is 00:31:56 the fire of energy, of the rallies and the protesting and the, and the outrage and the place where we've all reached where we will not be silent anymore and and it says I guess you picked the perfect way to die is there a perfect way to die it's so powerful and I'm just honored that this song can be alive in this time when you know we really are on the precipice of great change. That's really amazing. I would argue, you know, you're one of the people who have seen really mobilizing every resource that you have to make change happen. Your music, your networks, you know, the spaces that you inhabit, because for some, the music
Starting point is 00:32:47 would be enough. But you're part of an initiative that's really beautiful where you've put together this group of women, sisters in the industry, who all have a voice, you know, everyone from yourself to Cardi B. and Tracy Ellis Ross and just amazing women in this space who you've brought together and have worked with to come together and say, hey, let's speak out specifically, not just about the issue, but specifically about what happened to Brianna Taylor. You know, a woman who was killed in her bed because police knocked on the wrong door,
Starting point is 00:33:17 and killed her as she slept. And I mean, as we're speaking now, there still have been no arrests. The only person who was arrested was her boyfriend who was protecting his life because people just came in with guns. And you've been working on this, I believe with Brianna Taylor's mother as well.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Tell me about the initiative and tell me what you're trying to achieve. Yeah, we spoke to her family, her mother, her sister, who actually had a bedroom right next to Brianna. And for whatever reason, thank God that night, she wasn't there. But could you imagine this mom would have buried two daughters? Two. And it's terrible that she had to bury one. And this has been months that this has been going on. And to your point, no charges, no arrests, no firings. And it's outrageous. So we got together, we did a simple thing saying, do you know Brianna Taylor's story? And so we also knew that that her city, Louisville, was voting on banning this no-knock warrant, which is the reason why all of this happened. And so we had to be very timely because the vote was happening on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And I believe our collective kind of voices and our posts came out on Tuesday. And so on Thursday, sure enough, along with everybody else has been doing so much work around this. Sure enough, it was a unanimous vote that they banned the knock warrant. So I think that's one step, obviously those officers need to be charged to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be the the to be a the the the the the the the the the the the the their the the the the the the the the the the vote the vote the vote the vote thea theck the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the vote the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the... the. the. thea. thea. thea. thea. theanananananananananananananananam. thea. theauu. thea. thea. thea. the a boat that they banned their not warrant. So I think that's one step. Obviously, those officers need to be charged, need to be arrested, need to be convicted. And so actually on the Until Freedom website, there's a very clear outline of who you can call the mayor, the attorney general, there's a, the general attorney, there's a nice list of people that you can call. So no matter where you live live where you're from, you know, just continuing to be relentless,
Starting point is 00:35:07 I think is a part of all of the justices that we want to see. Before I let you go, you know, part of the journey of being a black person is living between two states of pain and joy. And for this Juneteen, you, you are going to be to be to be th, th, th, th, the the they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th.. And, th. And, th. And, th.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. And, th.a. And, th.a. And, th. And, the. And, is a th. And, is a th. And for this Juneteenth, you are going to be, is it piano battling against John Legend? Do I understand this? Because they said there's gonna be a battle and I was like, between John Liz and they're like, it's a piano battle and I was like, I've never heard of this.
Starting point is 00:35:34 This is like the most high brow, like hood thin, thee thinne. thin, theycee, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the, thea, thea, thea, tho, thea, th, thea, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, the, the, the, the, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the. the. thea, thea, thea.. thea. thea.ea.ea. thea.ea.ea.eaugh, tha, tha.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea.ea. tha. tha. tha. tha. th like what tell tell me a little bit about the juneteenth John legend Alicia Keys piano battle well you know versus my husband Swiss Beats created and Timberlin created this forum which is really a celebration of greatness you know where two really awesome artists will come together and battle have a versus opportunity to share their music, to share their moments. And it's been incredible, and especially during this time of COVID and us being so kind of confined to our spaces.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I think it's really been something that so many people look forward to. So Juneteenth is happening on June 19th and it really commemorates and it's a celebration to commemorate the liberation of the last enslaved people in America. And to me, you know, it's far more accurate of a time to celebrate than a July 4th, which still had many people who were not free and were not liberated. And so I think this is what we're celebrating. me and John we do come together for verses and we are going to have a beautiful battling celebration of music, piano, songs, I'm excited I mean I don't even know what's going to happen. I think nobody knows what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I think nobody knows with those verses battles which is exciting. That's what I'm excited. I mean, I don't think you know what's going to happen. I myself don't even know it's going to happen. I think nobody knows with those versus battles, which is exciting. That's what I'm saying. So I'm just excited to, you know, have this moment. I think it does, you know, it helps so much with all that we have coming forward. Alicia, thank you. Thank you so much for your time today. to. to. to. to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the time to their their their their their their their their their their their their to their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their versus their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their their their their. their their their. their their. their their times. times. times. times. times. times. toe. toes. toes. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. today. today. today. battle and congratulations on all the work that you're doing. We'll make sure we direct everybody to try and help in. Thank you. And you too. So much love. Thank you for all that you're doing.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Thank you to everybody who's watching. Thank you to everybody who's watching. For just being awake, and toobey, to you know, the great change that we all want to, too, to to to to to to to to, to, to, to, to, to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, and, and to be and too, and to be, and, and, and, and, and, and to, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, andtonight, but before we go, The Daily Show and Comedy Central have been donating to three groups who are fighting against police brutality and systemic racism. The NWACP Legal Defense Fund, the Equal Justice Initiative, and the Bail Project. Now, if you'd like to help, and you have anything to give, then all you need to do is go to the following links and donate whatever you can. Until tomorrow though, stay safe out there.
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