The Daily Show: Ears Edition - Trevor Interviews New York Governor Andrew Cuomo

Episode Date: April 23, 2020

Trevor has an in-depth interview with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo about his urgent efforts to combat the COVID-19 pandemic and how the crisis has impacted him personally. Learn more about your ad-...choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. What's going on, everybody? Welcome to another episode of the Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah, and today is Day 37 of us staying at home to try and prevent the spread of the coronavirus. And not only is it day 37, today is also Earth Day. Yes, the day when we celebrate one of the top planets humans have ever lived on. And you know honestly, you've got to admit man, Earth is having the best Earth day ever. Because ever since coronavirus locked all of us in our homes, animals have been roaming free,
Starting point is 00:01:08 the smog has cleared from the sky, the waters of Venice are blue again. Basically, as bad as coronavirus has been for humans, it's been amazing for the Earth. In fact, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but isn't Wuhan a part of the earth? From Trevor's couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Distancing Show with Trevor Noah. Now as you know, usually on the show, we would cover all the latest coronavirus updates.
Starting point is 00:01:46 But today, we had a really special guest who came on the show. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, the man who is at the helm of the biggest coronavirus hotspot in the world right now. So for today's episode, we decided to air the full interview, where we talked about everything, from his meeting with Trump, to the rollout plan for the the the the the the the about everything from his meeting with Trump to the rollout plan for New York's reopening to what it was like having coronavirus hit his own family. So here it is. Governor Andrew Cuomo, welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Pleasure to be with you. I'm a big fan. Well, thank you very much. Because more than ever during this pandemic, people have sought out leaders who communicate effectively and seem to know what they're trying to do. Nobody has all the answers about coronavirus but people look for leaders who know what they would like to do. Let's start off with New York. Where does New York stand right now in terms of the numbers and in terms of its trajectory? Well the good news is we have shown that we can we can that we can that we can that we can that we can can can can can can can can can can that we can can can can can can that we can can can can that we can the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. the the the th. thi. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. the. the. the. the. thee. thee. the. the. the. the. the. the. thi. thi. thi. terms of the numbers and in terms of its trajectory? Well, the good news is we have shown that we can control the spread of the virus, right? Which people take for granted now, but I wasn't always so sure. We could have taken all these measures, closed down, stay home, and we could have seen
Starting point is 00:02:58 that spread continue to go up. That would have been a really frightening place, but that was a possibility. We the the thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. We thu. We thu. thu. thu. thu. thu. thuuu. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe, thi. thi. thate, the, the, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. te. te. te. te. te. ta. toean. toean. tean. tean. tean. tean. tea. te. t frightening place, but that was a possibility. We showed that we can control the spread. It went up, the so-called plateau would hit a flat spot, and now we're on the downside of the plateau. The question is, how fast is that decline and how long does it take to make the decline? We have about 1,300 people per day, new diagnoses coming into the system. We lost about 474 people yesterday, which is a horrific number, but it's the only good news is it's less than the previous numbers of people we lost. And the hospitalization rate is coming down. We have about 16,000 people in hospitals.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So the numbers are all on the decline, and that's the good news. How long does it take until that number gets to a small enough level where you can sleep at night and not worry about it. Could be two weeks, could be three weeks, could be six weeks. You're balancing the pressure of the people people people people people people people people. Could be two weeks, could be three weeks, could be six weeks. You're balancing the pressure of the people who want to and need to get back to earning
Starting point is 00:04:11 a living and also, you know, the pressure of keeping people safe as a leader. How are you weighing these numbers? Is there a point when you say the risk is worth taking to go outside? Yeah, that's, you put the question very well. And often the question is more important than the answer. And here is one of those cases, I think. That is the balance. The pressure that people are under is phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It is traumatic. This is traumatic for people. And that's the way I think about it. You're right, the economic economic economic the economic economic economic the economic economic economic the economic economic the economic economic economic the economic economic the economic economic the economic economic the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic, the economic the way I think about it. You're right, the economic pressure, you have no paycheck, but meanwhile, they're still sending you the bills. There was the bill collector is an essential worker, and they're piling up on your desk. You don't know when you'll go back.
Starting point is 00:04:55 You don't know if you will go back. You don't know if your job is still there. You've been in the house with the family for a month. It sounds romantic, the first seven days, and then it gets highly stressful when you have everyone in that environment with nothing to do when everyone has their own stressors. So it's a people are about to burst on one level. They're under that kind of pressure.
Starting point is 00:05:22 On the other hand, we had 474 people die yesterday. You tell me how many people go outside today and toucest other people. I'll tell you how many people walk into a hospital three days from now. The cause and effect is that tight. This virus communicates and transfers that quickly and that precisely. So you take a situation like New York City where social distancing cannot happen by definition. Nobody gets six feet of real estate, right? You don't get six feet on a subway car or on a bus or on a sidewalk. you will see those numbers go up.
Starting point is 00:06:07 It is an impossible balance, Trevor. It's impossible to make people, to make both sides happy, if you will. And you just have to accept that. And for me, it's going to be about the data. We're going to do testing. We're going to look at that hospitalization rate. We're going to look at that death rate. And you don't start to reopen until you have those numbers
Starting point is 00:06:32 under control. So what is that number for you? Do you have that number? Is there a number that medical professionals or experts have given to you and said, this is the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number the number th number th number th number the number that we think activates New York reopening. They won't give me the number, Trevor, because you're right. Nobody's been here on any of these situations. What they will say is the number will decline to a level that is basically a low constant,
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Starting point is 00:07:25 And once we hit that number, then you can talk about starting to reopen. So we're seeing governors around America. We're seeing leaders around the world using different tactics to reopen their countries. For instance, in Denmark, they've started opening up a few schools. In Germany, they're getting ready to do that. In Georgia, they said they're going they're going they're going they're going they're going straight straight straight straight they're going they're going they're going they're going they're going they're going straight straight straight straight straight they're going they're going they're going there going three th right to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to go to to to to to go too tooe, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. th. the. the. the. the. theii. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. thei. toea. toea. toea. they're getting ready to do that. In Georgia, they said they're going straight to bowling alleys and hair dressing, salons, etc.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Do you have an idea? Are you going to say to New Yorkers, hey, we're going to start with these industries or this world, then we're going to move to this, then we're going to move to thatased in, it has to be slow in building, and watch that infection rate as you start to open up the valve to reopen, right? As you increase the flow, keep your eye on that infection rate. We're going to have the most aggressive testing program ever done, just to monitor that infection rate. Remember, the hospitalization rate is too late. Hospitalization rate is people who are so sick they went into a hospital. We want to track the infection rate. So we watch
Starting point is 00:08:30 that start opening the flow slowly. And then basically it's a matrix. How essential is the business pose. The more essential business is first and the lower pose? The more essential businesses first and the lower risk businesses first. So barber shops, hair salons, to me they are on the end of the chain because they're not that essential, people would argue, but in the scope of things, they're not that essential, and they are high risk
Starting point is 00:09:04 because I want to see a person perform a haircut and maintain social distancing while they give you a haircut. And I want to see the haircut that they do after they did it socially distant. So that would be at the back end, right? And on the front end, you would just basically be doing the next tranche of essential services, right? What's the next level of essential and low-risk essential? Well, that's part one with Governor Cuomo, and we'll have more right after this break. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. But that's all about to change. Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look, starting September 17th, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with New York
Starting point is 00:10:15 Governor Andrew Cuomo. Here's some more of the interview. You're in an interesting place right now where you are the governor of New York, but you are one of many governors who's entered into a pact to try and open up a region. Because as you said publicly, you know, the virus doesn't follow state lines. You can't implement this approach without the federal government helping you where it needs to. Now, yourself and trupe have gone back and forth, but one thing you've both acknowledged is that when it comes down to it, you know to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thi tho tho tho tho tho the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the. the. the. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thean. thea. thea. thea. thea. thea Trump have gone back and forth, but one thing you've both acknowledged is that when it comes down to it, you know how to communicate and you work together,
Starting point is 00:10:49 you had a meeting with the president. Was there anything fruitful from that meeting? Is there anything that's going to come from that meeting? And what is the relationship? the relationship between myself and the president is the president doesn't like me. That is the relationship. It is unambiguous. It is honest. It is open. And he doesn't like my politics, let's say. And we have been at political loggerheads many times over the past few years.
Starting point is 00:11:21 If you look at his Twitter account, you'll see my name quite often. None of it good, Trevor, none of it good. And I've sued the federal government a number of times. So that's open and it's not necessarily loving. Having said that, we had a meeting in the White House, and it was a very productive meeting. And I don't mean in diplomatic, conceptual talk. It was a honest, open, granular, detailed conversation about this subject of testing, which is totally new for everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's an impossible undertaking, because the numbers are just so extraordinary and there's so much urgency to it. But we had a very honest conversation and we went through what is testing and what should the state do and what should the federal government do and we basically allocated tasks. So it was a very positive conversation. And look, I give them credit because it's hard to actually sit down
Starting point is 00:12:22 with someone who you have differences with and say, put that all aside, and let's just do our jobs here, our respective jobs, because it's bigger than we are. And that's what yesterday was. It was, forget everything else. We're talking about life and death. We're talking about the profound moment of our history that we will experience. And we have a job to do because we're in a position and let's just do it and forget everything else.
Starting point is 00:12:56 And that's the way it should be. Who cares how he feels or how I feel? Who cares about how I feel about him personally? My feelings are irrelevant. My emotions are irrelevant. Just do the job. Who cares about what I think or what he thinks? And that's what yesterday was. It's really great to hear that, and the testing part of it is what really jumps out for me. Because one thing most people seem to agree upon all across the world is, with testing, that's going to be our beste the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the best the the to be our to be our best to be our best best best best best to be our best best to be our best to be our to be our best to agree upon all across the world is with testing that's going to be our best defense against coronavirus before
Starting point is 00:13:30 vaccine. Testing and tracing this virus. What does that mean though for you as the governor of New York? Does it mean every New Yorker has some method where they're they're self-testing or getting tested and then monitoring themselves? Does it mean that people who come from out of state or out of country can't to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, the, the, the, to, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, to, the, to, to, to, the, the, is, their, the, the, is, is, is, their, is, their, their, is. their, is. their, is. their, is. their, is. their, is. their, is... their, is... their, is, is... their, is, is.... their, is, is.. the, is, is, is. the, is, is, is, is, is, is, is, is. the the t. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. te. t're self-testing or getting tested and then monitoring themselves? Does it mean that people who come from out of states or out of country can or cannot come in unless they're tested? I'm really intrigued by how this is going to work because, unless the whole world is doing the same thing, one hole might be a hole for everybody, you know, they could sink the entire ship. So what does that mean for you te. be applied. There will always be a net with many holes in it to stick with your analogy. I don't think you're going to have enough tests anywhere to design the perfect system, okay?
Starting point is 00:14:16 Testing capacity. We are trying to jump start a testing laboratory system that just doesn't do this. I have private labs in my state. There are national manufacturers of lab kits and lab equipment, but we're asking them to go to 50 times what they've been doing. If you took every machine in the state of New York that does this, and you ran it seven days a week, 24 hours a day, you could get up to about 40,000 that does this. And you ran it seven days a week, 24 hours a day, you could get up to about 40,000 tests per day, all right? That is the maximum capacity.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Sounds like a lot. But it's not when you're talking about 19 million people. I've done more tests in this state than any state in the United States. We do more tests than any country per capita. And we've tested about 500,000 people. Sounds like a lot of people. But again, not on a population of 19 million, not on a workforce of 9 million. And that was 500 in one month. You want to bring them back based on tests you can do it.
Starting point is 00:15:22 What tests can do is monitor the spread of the virus. That you can do with tests. And that is the single most important thing to me because as you're opening the reopening valve and increasing the flow, what you need to know is how many people are getting infected and that testing can do for you. It can also do antibody testing which te the virus. Which tests. tests tests te te te te te te te te te te te th. te th. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. T. th. th. the the the the the the the the them the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th them them th them them them th th them th them them th th th them th. That you th. the the the the the the the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the and the the and th infected and that testing can do for you. It can also do antibody testing which tells us how many people were infected but also identifies people who can do the convalescent plasma treatment which is important and it gives employers a tool in their workplace to test a smaller number so you know for those that next tranche of essential business workplace to test a smaller number
Starting point is 00:16:05 so you know for that next tranche of essential businesses that their workers are fine. But you're never going to be able to do a net that covers New York or any other state. As the governor, you are facing a pandemic right now in one of the most affected places in the world. The horizon, unfortunately, brings with it another dark side, and that is people's finances. Yes, some people may have been able to stop paying their mortgage. Some may have been given a little leeway to pay their rent or not pay their rent. What happens on the other side of this?
Starting point is 00:16:46 Is there a plan to help people, to help New Yorkers, who now may have a landlord who says, well, you owe me two times the rent, or now you owe me double this or double that? Is there any plan in place to try and alleviate that stress that maybe felt post-corona. We're talking about it, Trevor, and we're thinking about it. We don't have a specific plan yet because we don't know how bad it is. I have said short-term, no one can be evicted for non-payment, okay? So you're out of work, you're not having a check, you cannot be evicted for non-payment. That is the immediate short-term problem, right? Depending on how long this goes, you'll have other issues down the road, no doubt. The expression stone to stone across the morass, right?
Starting point is 00:17:35 How do you get across the morass? And that's all we see right now is a morass in front of us. Stone to stone. You don't have to figure out the whole path. Just find the next firm stone to advance your progress. And that's what we're doing. So deal with the here and now, and then we'll figure out the future when we actually see what the future is because we have been wrong from day one here, right? Every projection has turned out to be incorrect. So I'm at the point where to the point where, to, to to to to to us, to us, to to us, to us, to to to to us to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tho, the tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho to to to to to to to to to to to Every projection has turned out to be incorrect. So I'm at the point where let me see the facts that I'm dealing with, and then we'll deal with it.
Starting point is 00:18:15 When we come back, we'll complete the trilogy of my interview with Governor Cuomo. Stay tuned. When 60 Minutes premiered in September 1968, there was nothing like it. This is 60 Minutes. It's a kind of a magazine for television. Very few have been given access to the treasures in our archives. You're rolling. But that's all about to change.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Like none of this stuff gets looked at. That's what's incredible. I'm Seth Done of CBS News. Listen to 60 Minutes, a second look on Apple podcasts starting September 17. Welcome back to the daily social distancing show. On today's episode, we've been going in-depth with Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So here's the final part of our interview. One thing you've done as governor that has been particularly unique amongst leaders is you haven't just, I think, given people platitudes. You came out with really stern warnings very early on. You were very grim in your forecast. You just told the people what information you had. It's a very unique way to handle a press conference. You've also been very personal in telling the stories
Starting point is 00:19:28 that you've told. Is there a reason you chose to do this? You know, because some leaders would go, I'm gonna hide it all and not share anything with the public. I'll just make them feel good. You've chosen a completely different approach. Why? Because I haven't slept at night thia, th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thoe, tho. tho. tho. thoe, tho, tho, tho, tho, tho, to. to, to be. to, to, to, to, to, to, to, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their. their, their, their. their, th. And, their. And, th. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, to. And, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too, too. And, too. And, too. And, too. And, you could have carried some of that burden for me, but I want to know why you chose to not do that. We had our first case on March 1st. I was going to put in
Starting point is 00:19:53 some of the most dramatic government mandates in history. No other governor has the governor has shut down the economy. No other governor has ever said you have to stay home. If New Yorkers had said, no, I'm not doing it. And New Yorkers are a defiant bunch. I would have been powerless. I can't enforce a stay-at-home order for 19 million people. The the ability to have a plan was purely dependent on New Yorkers buying in and
Starting point is 00:20:36 they are smart and they are cynical and if they don't believe you or you haven't made your argument and you haven't laid out the facts they're not going to do it. Especially when you're asking them to do something they don't want to do, especially when you're asking them to do something they have never done before. I mean just think about saying the New Yorkers, everybody must stay home. Lock the door, you can't go outside except to go buy food and then you have to run right right th back, no I'm a native New Yorker. My first instinct is, yeah I'm not doing that, that's nice, but I'm not doing it. So they had to believe it, they had to understand it, and I am not in the business of not telling the truth or trying to manipulate or I'm only going to tell you what you what you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you the you the you to to to to the to to the to to to to the to the the to to to the the to to to to th you to thi thi can't thi the their you thiol-you can't their their their their their their their their the in the business of not telling the truth, or trying to manipulate, or I'm only
Starting point is 00:21:26 going to tell you what you can handle, because I'm worried about what you can actually absorb. No, I am not there to filter. I am not there to manipulate. Here's the situation. Here are the facts. I'm going to tell you everything I know. You know everything I know. And just the facts. I'm going to tell you everything I know. You know everything I know. And just the way I know it, no sugar coating. There's no lying that everyone has been affected by this. You know, some days I feel like life is normal. Some days I feel like this is the craziest thing
Starting point is 00:21:56 we've ever experienced, and it swings wildly. And I know everyone has a different experience of it. I don't know what what what what to be a leader, a governor of a state where thousands of people are dying and you are hearing this, you are seeing the stories, you're responsible for these lives, you're not responsible for the deaths but you're responsible for the lives of the people and keeping everybody safe as you can. What is that done for you as a person? Like how are you doing and how are you dealing with this? On the communication, which as I said is so important because really this is all a voluntary
Starting point is 00:22:29 program by New Yorkers, right? They changed their behavior, they brought down the infection rate. But I gave them the information. Part of the information was personal because this is this is traumatic. This is PTSD for an entire generation that will talk about this. And it is personal. So I try to communicate how I feel personally and my fear and my anxiety as part of this to say to you, you're not alone. Everyone's feeling this. I'm feeling it too. The one differentiation is I have to deal with the number of deaths in the state. Fifteen thousand people, Trevor. Nine eleven, twenty seven hundred people. That was supposed to be the worst experience of my life, I believed.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Twenty-seven hundred people. This is fifteen thousand people. of my life, I believed. 2700 people, this is 15,000 people, 474 people yesterday. That weighs heavily on me. I can sit here and say to you, I believe that we did everything that could possibly be done. I don't believe we lost anyone because we didn't have a bed and we didn't have doctors and nurses. We did that. But we still lost 15,000
Starting point is 00:23:51 people. And I still am the governor and I still hold myself responsible and I still say to myself what else could I do, what else could I do? Was there anything else that we could be doing right now? That is a very heavy burden to bear. You've also had an interesting connection to the coronavirus on a very personal level, and I know we've got to let you go soon, but I wanted to chat to you a little bit about a strange journey that many of us have gone on where we got introduced to a love and a friendship that you share with your brother who is on CNN. And you know for many people, I mean, we'd never seen this side of you, we'd never seen you and your brother and the way you joke with each other,
Starting point is 00:24:35 and then it came out that Chris had coronavirus and now all of a sudden his world was turned upside down. Did did any of that experience shake you in a different way, when it became that much closer to you as a person? Oh yeah, yes for sure it did. And again, in the same way, the powerlessness. He's my brother, and he's my man. He's my best friend, and you know, I don't like to give him any credit because that's the whole big brother, little brother thing. But the guy. But the guy. But the guy. the guy. the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He the guy. He is is. He is. He is the guy. He is the guy. He is the guy is hea. He's hea. He's hea. He's he he he he he he he he th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He. He th. He th. He he. He he. He he. He he. He he. He he. He he. He he. He was. He's he. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's th. He's the thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi. He's thi. He's thi. He's my best friend and you know I don't like to give him any credit because that's the whole big brother, little brother thing. But the guy is
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Starting point is 00:26:46 Well, Governor, thank you so much for your time today. I really appreciate it. Hopefully, we'll be seeing you on the show on the other side of this. Look after yourself, mentally, physically, and thank you so much for joining us on the daily social distancing show. Thank you. I'll keep watching. Have a good one. Well, that's our show th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, than than than than than than thi, than than than thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, than than th. Thank you so than than than than than than than than, than, than, than, than, than, than, than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than. than., that's our show for tonight, but before we go, with businesses closing and people still losing their jobs, lots of people are struggling to find a meal right now. But you can help them by donating to feeding America. They're supplying food to millions of Americans every single day, and they could really use your help. Even a dollar can help somebody get a meal. Don't forget that. Until tomorrow though, stay safe out there, wash your hands, and remember,
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