The Daily Zeitgeist - Weekly Zeitgeist 135 (Best of 7/20/20-7/24/20)

Episode Date: July 26, 2020

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one nonstop infotainment laughstravaganza. Yeah. So without further ado, here is the weekly zeitgeist. Eves, what is something that you think is underrated hmm so i had to think really hard about this um but i think that saying i don't know is underrated um this is big this has been a new trend yet yeah yeah i think it is and i and obviously it's really true that there is a

world of info like at our availability that we have immediate access to. Like, that's definitely true. Google is a click away. Like, we have all of that at our hands. And I feel very fortunate, you know, to be able to look up whatever I want to, including exercise induced urticaria to figure that out. But I think that when, you know, it's definitely important when it comes to when we're uninformed on something, like being able to say, I don't know, it's just, I don't know. I mean, it feels kind of freeing in a way where it's like, I do, I would say that I feel a lot of the time, the pressure to know everything, because I know that I do have all of that

information at my fingertips. But I also think in a larger way, in a scope, just saying I don't know is kind of freeing because there's so much that there is uncertainty around right now when it comes to the future. And I think about that specifically around abolition. We have a lot of ideas about what we want to work, how we want it to work, the kind of future that we want to build, and the kind of future that we want to build and the kind of world that we want to see. But I think that there is something very valuable in being able to say, I don't know around. I have no fucking idea if those ideas are going to work. I have no idea how long they'll take to work. I have like, I have no idea of what I'm saying right now is the right thing. If it's the wrong thing, if you want to put things in the binary like that. But I think that there is a way in which, yeah, saying I don't know around specific issues right now is so important because there are so many people fucking talking who don't need to be.

And then there's so many people's voices who need to be heard that people aren't listening to. And yeah, like making sure that those voices are uplifted is important and saying I don't know. making sure that those voices are uplifted is important and saying, I don't know, but it's also envisioning is, is being able to envision and being able to assume risk, which I think obviously as black people, I, and if I can speak for the collective,

we are so risk averse for so many important reasons. You know, we want to survive and we want to thrive. But I think that saying, I don't know, it's like, you know, we can open ourselves up to risk and we can open ourselves up to uncertainty. And that's so that like, that's okay. That can be okay. And we can tell ourselves that that's okay.

Because right now we have a lot of information that we do know that we don't want. And in a way there is comfort in saying like, well, I know how this system is operating already. All that data has been there. There's centuries worth of data. And on top of it, to your point of the idea, especially around a lot of racial justice, like this has been a field of academia for decades. And there have been many people putting their life's work into these, into, you know, theorizing these things and, and investigating them and trying to figure out what is a tangible way to dismantle these systems of oppression. And, but then I, and I've said, I think I said this very earlier on, that's where there's another layer of racism

that this form of academia runs into another like form of gatekeeping about sort of like, what are these black and brown people are going to tell me about how justice is? And there's, about sort of like, what are these black and brown people are going to tell me about how justice is? And there's things get held up and we don't, and that message doesn't reach the people it needs to at, you know, I think at the moment they need it. And now I think with a lot of this renewed enthusiasm or new enthusiasm from new people who are joining this movement, uh, yeah, it really is important to say, Hey, you don't have to come in. No one's asking you to come in here fully formed ally who knows every dimension of oppression and how to dismantle it. The first thing is that you show your enthusiasm for it and then you're all open. You are open to hearing things and you are open to learning new things just like everybody else is because I think the way we get to where we are is at a certain point motherfuckuckers go, oh, I already know everything. So I don't need to keep, I know what's best. I will keep going down this path of just funding the police and law enforcement and let the budgets keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and no support for social safety nets, et cetera. Yeah.

For sure. Yeah. And I think that we often operate in the way where we say we don't know so easily. We care a lot about science and about the, the, the parameters that happen around science and know that it is a thing that is infinitely changing. And we know that that's the foundation of science is something that we'll never know everything. And the reason that we have science and that we have experimentation and that we have continuous learning is because we know we don't know everything. And like, just applying that to this. What a thought. no, we don't know everything. And like just applying that to this.

What a thought. What? I already know everything, Eves. Can't tell me anything new. I already heard everything. I've already seen every episode of Law & Order. This conversation is over. Yeah.

Done and done. I think what's also interesting too is, you know, smart people, I think actually have the hardest time saying they don't know anything. Especially if your self-perception is like, oh, people come to me for information or I've been told I've been of like, I'm sharp or whatever. I find that that is a thing.

Even for me, like I found, you know, through years of therapy, being able to be able to say, yeah, I don't know that. Even though like you have, I know for me personally, as a child, like trying to know everything or get good grades, like started a habit of like trying to know everything. But it didn't give me to the healthy place of like actually the pursuit of knowledge and wisdom, which is to then put your ego in the fucking trash and say, bring me all of the information so I could just blow my mind open. Yeah. I feel like. Sorry, go ahead.

Oh, no, I was just going to say, yeah, I agree with you. I was like, I want to say that I'm totally implicated in that as well. And thinking like, sorry, go ahead. Oh no. I was just going to say, yeah, I agree with you. Myles. Like, I want to say that I'm totally implicated in that as well. And thinking like, I'm a black woman. I know about blackness and like, you know, my experience is mine and really getting caught up in my singular perspective and like really having to unlearn and learn things in terms of like, okay, I'm saying from my specific worldview, a trans person's life, a Black life is nothing like my Black life is. And a person who is like from a different part of Georgia, like even if it's that small than I am, because I grew up in the suburbs of Atlanta, like their life is going to be very different than mine, even if they're a Black woman as well. And just like snapping myself

out of that. Yeah. Yeah. I've felt that like like, and I wonder if it is connected to, like, how we are programmed to learn in America, where I think that there are times where if you don't know something and someone tells you, like, that's not right. Or, like, I don't think you understand what is being said here, that there is, like like a tendency to take that very like personally and be like what i don't know something you know it's like there is a tendency to take it personally i've felt that in uh in the past as well and it's like just unlearning that mentality of like if someone tells you that you don't like first of all if you're not able to say you don't know something and you get it wrong like you have to not make it this like battle of the ego to just say, oh, OK, I'm listening, which a lot of people struggle with. For sure. I mean, yeah, that's just the I think that's the other thing, too, is that it's a much it's a lot harder actually to say you don't know, but it's actually the best thing you can do. I think that actually is a demonstration of higher aptitude because you can learn anything the second someone tells it to you.

But it's hard to put that shit aside and say, I don't know what you were talking about. Would you mind telling me about that? I think can be, depending on how you look at yourself, a difficult thing, especially when it comes to politics and people's identities wrapped up. Oh, boy. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Honestly, I think the damaging or deleterious effects, the callousness of people on social media.

And I never thought I would be a hardcore advocate for something like this. I'm not a mental health expert or something. I know we probably talked about it on Daily Zeitgeist, but the Kanye West presidential bid, for example, like the guy's actually filing paperwork. You can see it. He's filed for Oklahoma and stuff. And people are, you know, I think we easily forget that even celebrities celebrities or whatever real people uh i i think it's like we have to remember we don't know these people and it's very close to shitting on someone with mental illness i get it roast people i'm all a roast everybody at some point but i i think that we're not giving

due deference to uh the fact that these are real people at the other end of the house. So that's me making up for the Falcon fucking hat. Yeah. I mean, well, now that's we have to I mean, it's clear he is in a state of distress. Like he that that clip of him in South Carolina, whatever that rally or stumps, whatever you want to call that was really um unsettling like it was it was kind of upsetting to see because he was sort of all over the place and you could tell based on the way he was talking it was almost as if everyone was telling him to not go and he was like no i know what's best for me don't tell me what to do because he's like if kim divorces

me for doing this i don't care and it's like that almost sounds like she may have said please don't do this or you're putting our marriage at risk and he still went out and did it and that's the other sort of toxic side of the equation is like on one hand people look at it and they're like wow it's the tv because i've been you know sort of inoculated with this idea this message that like to be a celebrity means like the perfect existence where everything is manicured and like you know stresses of the world don't reach you but then we lose our ability to just look at him and say this man is in he's like in pain and it could also be that there are many people around him who are not really taking that seriously and just want to keep this thing going like of being around him and saying like enabling him. And there's a lot of talk too that he's seriously like there.

He's going to seriously put a lot of his businesses in jeopardy too with this, the whole campaign and everything with it. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I recently looked up public access TV. Yeah. A project I'm working on. And I forgot the particulars of public access TV, but it was so important to not just society,

but I guess to me too. Just like watching weird stuff on public access TV was part of how I spent most of my free time when I was a kid. Anybody could be a TV host. Anybody could sign up and have studio time and cameras and be put on television. It reminds me somewhat of being on a podcast. Anybody could do it. No, but seriously, i miss public access tv i miss that you could

get perspectives from outsiders where people weren't necessarily trying to be just famous or follow trends because public access tv shows existed in a bubble where there was no commentary there was no feedback it was just like i'm gonna make this thing because it seems good to me but nobody could like immediately instantly tell you you suck when your TV show came out. So a lot of people, you know, that ended up being successful and doing cool things started on public access TV. Tom Green's TV show was on public access TV. And I don't know how people feel about Tom Green, but I mean, he's a big deal for me when I was a kid. I thought he was hilarious.

Some of the hardest laughs I had at a very developmental period of my life. Yeah, I remember my mother just really realizing something was wrong with me because she's like, there's just shit on a microphone and that's funny to you? And I'm like,

but he's just putting it in their face and he's not saying anything about it, mom. Nothing made me laugh harder than when he sent the cow's head to his parents. They were so mad at him. The statue that he put on his parents' lawn of his dad hitting his mom, which probably wouldn't fly these days, but not at all. The other thing I remember in public access was the way I saw some raw adult content that you could not really find anywhere else.

And it took like, you know, older kids would be like, I don't know if you watch public access, man, but like it goes down late at night. You can see a titty if you try hard enough. Yeah, like it was that was like the I remember the promised land at first when I was even engaging with it. It was like that's like the dark web of TV content, basically. Yeah. It was like YouTube before YouTube. I'm sure there's a lot of our younger listeners who don't even realize what we're talking about. But for a long time, Channel 3, I think, where I lived was public access. And it was just videotapes i remember once i saw uh and watched the entirety of a slasher movie made by people uh with absolutely no experience and uh it was a blast

i would get my stalker content or slasher content anywhere i could um but i like you said channel three because where i grew up channel three was a channel that had to be on to play super nintendo oh yes yeah or the vcr or something it's either three or four yeah i don't know why yeah it changed based on like i guess maybe some some areas kept one channel sacred like there's no channel three in the la market so that was ours because four was nbc but i'm guessing other places three was a channel four wasn't anyway yeah no three was definitely my channel for the vcr and that actually shows how uh poorly thought out everything was back in the 80s because you'd think that

channel three would have been like a really hot one to get because people would go to turn it on that channel to watch a movie on the vcr and VCR. And there's just a lot of traffic going through that station. But instead, it was always public access and just bullshit. So, bad job by you, cable bosses. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. Well, you know, again, trying to start with the lighter stuff. I prefer to start off with what's overrated. Underrated. Well, you know, again, trying to start with the lighter stuff. I prefer to start off with what's overrated.

Okay, let's do that. You asked about those things, right? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, something that I think is overrated, maybe this is a little controversial, right? But I would say sharing a bed with your spouse on a nightly basis. When you say something like that, automatically your thought is like, what's wrong?

What's going on there? You guys doing okay? Trouble in paradise? Yes, yes, yes. Which is the thing I like to say to couples all the time. I say no, no, no, no, no. Totally on the contrary. You know, having your own space

and being able to say, look, amor, I love you very much, but I also really need a good night's sleep. And, you know, I'm going to take it as, you know, maybe one of you is a night owl and the other one is a morning person. Or maybe one of you wakes up in the middle of the night and has some brilliant idea, has to turn on the lights and, you know, jot it down. Oh, I wish I was someone like that. Yeah, I keep waiting for that to happen. I was like, that's only in movies, Monica. Yeah, it's yet to happen to me. But yeah, no, I think it's, and this is something I want to talk about a little, hopefully, in the show,

is these gender roles that we play and how we can um redefine them and you know it's nice to have on a daily basis your own you know i'm going to take a step further and not just say you know you should have your own bed but you should have your own bedroom if you know if you can if you're not living in new york or san francisco where you can barely afford a studio yeah your own space own space, right? Yeah. Yeah, you have your own. It's about having your own space, having some independence. And yeah, I think that strengthens you as a person

and it strengthens you in a relationship and you have a better night's sleep. And that doesn't mean you can't have sleepovers and visit and such. So it makes it a lot more fun. Yeah. Yeah, the bed bed i totally understand because uh you know my partner her majesty she likes to have pets in the bed and i'm like i don't like to inconvenience people so i sleep very like in a very thin sliver

of the bed because i don't want to wake her up then i'm like i don't want to i don't want to wake my pets up i don't know why i'm going. I thought you were going to say that you sleep in the dog crate. I'm working on my crate training right now. But yeah, like, so from that point, I realized too, I'm like, you know what, I'm going to sleep somewhere else because that way, like you can get down and I don't have to feel bad about not disturbing anyone and get my own night's sleep because I think everyone has different sleep styles I sleep next to a sprawler and I'm very much like the it's just so weird like I don't advocate for my my own sleep when I'm in bed because I'm like but the other person's sleep and then right you gotta you gotta

take care of yourself even that means getting away to another bed for a little bit. A good night's sleep is crucial. It'll make everybody happier. I say give it a try. Give it a try. Yeah. My two-year-old was up at two in the morning until four in the morning this morning. So I did not get a good night's sleep.

And I've witnessed my brain malfunctioning. Like I'll see the wrong word coming out of my mouth as I'm speaking. So, yeah, just a fair word of warning there. I'm about to show you the value of a good night's sleep in the negative. You're like, oh, boy, oh, boy. Yeah, playing musical beds is also an option. Yeah, right. Especially when you've got kids.

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shouldn't be told or don't need to be told that we're strong. And I definitely understand the sentiment because it's coming from a place where so often our oppressors specifically are the ones who are telling us that, like, we don't experience pain. And that's in a very established way, you know, when that comes to the medical industry, just always saying that, and I know so many of us have had personal experiences, but saying that we don't experience pain, that we're strong, that we're tough, that we can make it through this, that we can make it through that. There's this superhuman stereotype that we can do all of that. And I think that, yes, in that manner, our oppressors don't need to tell us that we're strong because if we take it contextually, we know their intention behind that. And we know that so long what public health has woman wanting or not wanting to be told that she's strong because that's her preference and it's up to her.

I want Black women to tell me that I'm strong because I feel like in a way, telling Black women that are saying that we shouldn't be told that we're strong is kind of affirming the idea that we are assume we're strong, but I often need affirmation and confirmation from other Black women to tell me that I am strong because sometimes I don't feel like I am. And sometimes I need somebody to tell me that I am. And that feels really good when it's coming from other Black women and from other Black women who I know that I love specifically and close to specifically. And I think that there are like caveats to the statement, like black women shouldn't be told they're strong. Well, yes. And it's like a both and type of situation. There's some ostracism there. I think everything is really like loaded like that too. I've had discussions with some like professors who, you know, are so in sociology and a lot of black history and i've even heard from them just sort of like the nature of the kneeling and how that is even

uh viewed for like from a historical context problematic to see that as like kneeling in front of the oppressor as a form of protest has all of this historical context behind it of the subordinate servant uh and lowering themselves to the master and things like that. So at every turn, right, there's all everything. There's every, there's so many dimensions to the ways that we can either protest or find

strength in our existence. But there's always this other historical backdrop to it that I think everyone, we always have to be conscious of because there's all these roots, like to the point of, you know, this fallacy or this like medically perpetuated myth that like, yeah,

black women will be prescribed less painkillers that, that is all going back to this idea of, you know, the slavery and the idea that these black bodies are used to create revenue and are efficient at doing that. And that continues. Let's just check in with the king. Let's check in with the BK real quick.

There was a video that came out with Mason, whatever his, the Walmart yodeling boy. I believe that was him because there's yodeling in this video. It's Mason Ramsey. So it is. And so he's out here yodeling boy. I believe that was him because there's yodeling in this video. Oh, it's Mason Ramsey. So it is. So it is. And so he's out here yodeling. Talk about we were so young. Yeah, I know, right?

He's out here yodeling his little butt off to like a fun commercial talking about how, you know, methane is a huge, huge problem in terms of like our agriculture because cows are releasing a lot of methane, a greenhouse gas. And the gist of it is sort of like, well, Burger King knows methane bad. So what we're going to do is make a new burger that will solve the methane problem.

And you're going to be able to eat so many burgers, you don't even know what to do. So yes, methane is a huge issue uh and the logic of this burger king campaign is that they are going to offer low methane beef patties meaning that by adding lemongrass to the diets of like the cows that they can reduce the methane emissions by about one-third i think on paper that sounds sounds pretty interesting. I'm like, oh, that's all you had to do? You can cut down methane emissions by one third by just giving people or these cows a little bit of lemon grass? What's that, Mason Ramsey? Yeah. Yeah. Go on, Mason. Tell me more. Now, there's a couple of things about this. First of all, these beef patties are only for a limited

time and are only available in a handful of cities. So if you don't live in Miami, New York, Austin, Portland, or LA, you're not going to see this shit. Even though this campaign was meant to be like, Burger King has solved the greenhouse gas problems with our red meat consumption. The other thing was that the fart stuff, right? This whole idea that, you know, the farts are causing the methane. That's actually not true. Many agricultural scientists and people who are like researching this, like this is so fucking lame, this commercial, because 60% of the methane actually comes from their burps and not from their manure. 40% comes from manure. And this one scientist was saying, it's not the cow farts. Nearly all enteric methane from cattle is from belching.

Suggesting otherwise turns this serious climate topic into a joke. I agree. And it's funny how the commercials really like, they really want to talk about farts. Like the commercial has like that kid going into like a cow ass. Like it's like, they are really hyper focused on the farts like the commercial has like a that kid going into like a cow ass like it's like they are really hyper focused on the farts they want to make sure that you got the like the farts are part of the conversation they definitely and so it's like when you add the context that it's not even really about the farts the farts not even like the big problem

right that becomes even more weird it's even more weird of a choice i'm absolutely i mean this this is just like a miss on so many levels because it completely misunderstands what, it doesn't know what it's talking about. It's using this like, you know, kind of like irony poisoned aesthetic that was really popular five years ago to give this misinformation to everybody.

And it's not funny. I think that they think it's funny and it's not i just oh god i mean these this trend of i feel like we've been talking about this on zeitgeist for years at this point of like cool brand it's like it's we the the curtain has been pulled aside like yeah it's not funny it's not cool and in this case it's just like not even accurate so yeah the science the scientific part of it is really fucking just so lame so you know they're claiming they're like yeah 100 to fucking just 100 grams of dried lemongrass is reducing it by 33 percent the methane emissions so a lot of people who are looking at this like, OK, can I see your scientific receipts, please?

And here's where it becomes a fucking issue. The study that they're citing hasn't even gone through any kind of peer review, which I think is important because that's usually when your peers go, what the fuck is this, bro? This is not. Nah, nah, nah. Yeah. Yo, the fuck? Nah, y'all, uh-uh. Not this, bro. Go back. Which, you know, is very important with any sort of scientific study. So all the claims are relying on like it was like, I think, a cooperative study with like a lab in Mexico and one in the US that they're saying, oh, we're going off the results in the Mexican lab because the US part of the study, when they concluded theirs, they said, quote, the research was inconclusive and so far showed no methane reduction from lemongrass, end quote.

So like, OK, shut the fuck up. I don't talk about that part. That lets us get away with this just like ridiculous claim. And, you know, I think while that's interesting to talk about methane, I mean, like there's like, you know, there's like restorative agriculture that's used for raising cattle. That's like an actual way to like look at how destructive that kind of this certain aspect of agriculture can be. But, you know, they make it a fart joke with the yodeling kid. And then it's just like global warming. It's all kind of rich coming from Burger King, too. I've just like, are you really going to make this like standing on a pedestal style like we get it kind of joke when it's like, no, you're Burger King, too, of just, like, are you really going to make this, like, standing on a pedestal style, like, we get it kind of joke when it's, like, no, you're Burger King.

Like, you've done fine. No. I mean, that's, like, their M.O. Do you guys remember back in 2019 when they had, they released their real meals for mental health awareness? Oh, like those mental health, oh. So it would be, like, instead of a happy meal, it's, like like you can get a pissed meal or a like yes meal like oh my god i forgot about the yes meals yeah like i think that they often like swing for the fences and i guess i kind of i kind of like respect that but often it's like

babe you know where this goes based on this logic so if we had uh mental health last time big swing on climate what's what's been one of the bigger stories this year in society that burger king could wade the not racial not racial justice i mean they might wade in the waters of racial justice thank you burger king i know like the like the like um yeah like the, like, yeah, like the, like they're going to have like burgers named after slain civil rights icons or something. Like you don't have, like, it doesn't always have to be this cringe to be part of the conversation and part of the solution.

Yeah. It doesn't always have to be some sort of like really over the top cringy marketing campaign. Stop trying to be part of the fucking conversation. Just be part of the fucking solution. I don't give like this doesn't you wasted millions of dollars for what? So just like get I don't know what that does for your sales. And in their minds, it's actually great, like sort of like sort of earth restorative justice kind of thing we can do with this. Why don't you just commit to becoming carbon neutral as quickly as possible?

Right. Let's do that. Because it's not I mean. But again, the cynicism of like all this quickly as possible. Right. Right. Let's do that. Cause it's not, I mean, but again, yeah. Right. The cynicism of like all this marketing and yeah. But it only ever results in negative blowback.

But I guess that that just ends up being a second wave of, you know, a second press cycle for them is the fact that they did it. And then the fact that everyone hates it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess it's just like more greenwashing.

This is like what companies do. They, they, they, And I guess it's just like more greenwashing. This is like what companies do. They, there are, there are things like corporations have so much they can do to combat climate injustice, but it's so much easier to be like, oh, we have a little campaign with the yodeling kid about cow farts.

Boom, boom, done. Hi, we're Clorox. We may have destroyed the earth with our chemicals. Can we give the Sierra Club a ridiculous donation so we can put their logo on our new green products

and then you can completely forget what this company has been about since time immemorial? Okay, thank you. Like that kind of cynical, it's, dude, remember like when BP was coming with their greenwashing ads like right after the oil spill in the Gulf? I was like, wow, we're really acting like you guys are part okay but it's i think for the most part though people look at what's going on the tv and take that like

a lot of the slick marketing is like okay well that's the reality i guess they're thinking about it so i don't have to and i can just can just eat my mason yodel burgers um you know and just to pivot and it's not a it's not a real bad tangent, but I thought Mason's career would be a little bit further along than it is right now because he came, he was, you know, I think that's the thing.

When you go viral real quick on Twitter, it's hard to take that, you know, to the next level, but I was really hoping for him. I worry about Mason. I hope Mason has good parents. I don't, every time I see Mason,

there's just kind of an, I start to feel a little concerned of like, is he okay? Are people looking out for him? I don't think he's going to do a Burger King commercial. He's like 13. He's so little. He's so young.

And see, this is the thing he's doing that. I was watching that showbiz Kids documentary that was on HBO. So good. So good. He's entering that age where he's losing his baby face and is now becoming a pubescent child. And that's when the industry goes, oh, look, bro.

Call us back when you grow into your face, kid. We see what happened with Frankie Munez from Malcolm in the Middle. Yeah. Yeah. She haven't spit you out. I hate to see it, but I hope we'll see what happens to Mason Ramsey. You know,

uh, that's how far he's come. How far he has come. Uh, finally, Bridget, what's a myth. What's something people think is true.

And you're like, that's false. That's not true. Or vice versa i'm gonna keep with my um celebrity sort of uh theme here and something that people think is true is that monique the comedian is that she's like a complainer that she like you know it's difficult blah blah blah but just today she got a major win on her gender and racial discrimination lawsuit so i feel like the common idea about the comedian monique is that

she i don't know folks remember this this is something that like i remember quite well she spoke out when she got a netflix special basically that like she was offered a lot less for her netflix special and she alleged that it had to do with race and gender. And people were like, actually, she's hard to work with. Actually, like she's unprofessional. And I guess today a court that says otherwise, a court agreed that she has, that her case has merit. So that is a myth that she is like just a difficult black woman.

Actually, it sounds like she's got a point. Well, I think that shows you how, you know, entrenched these stereotypes are that very just reflexively a company like netflix or their you know surrogates allies in the business can go well she's actually difficult to work with and people go oh okay right angry black woman who's who's probably making it really difficult for people just they're just trying to do their jobs and if she wasn't so angry uh maybe we could come to some kind of consensus yeah it's just so fucking lazy so i'm glad uh that

she's uh wait so wait that there was a judgment made i didn't i didn't realize there was a movement on her legal case or that or do they try and get it dismissed or something so this was just yesterday this is a deadline um article from 20 hours ago netflix loses move to axe monique's sex and racial discrimination suit over comedy special so essentially it essentially, it's an incremental win for her. I guess Netflix was trying to have it thrown out, and a judge said, no, there's a case here to be heard. Yeah, all she did was show me what Amy Schumer got paid and what she got paid, and I'm like,

okay, something's up here. Even there. Exactly. Even if you want to... The comparisons are really hard to look at. Which is something that people getting specials like that should be doing. If male comics and white comics who are getting specials would just be more forthcoming about, here's how much I would pay.

You don't lose anything by doing that, and you're helping. How much did fucking Chris D'Elia get paid for his piece of shit special prior to his camp? Like, almost certainly more, but he's a piece of shit. And there's no financial transparency in that community. It's just like, the stigma around that needs to stop. Yeah, like, I feel like in a corporate Zoom call, like, your salary should be, like, next to your name. Yeah, I agree. So it's immediately accessible. You're like your salary should be, like, next to your name. Yeah, I agree.

So it's immediately accessible. You're like, oh, interesting. Okay, that's their title. Yeah. Wouldn't have thought you were worth that much. Interesting. And I also think that, like, the idea that, you know, if you – and, Jamie, I would actually be very curious to hear your thoughts as a comedian, as someone who is, like you know, in this in the industry as well, like, I feel like there is a stigma, as you said, around getting offered something and then

questioning or pushing back. I feel like as marginalized people, as women, as people of color, I feel like the implication is that like, if Netflix is going to offer you a special, you should have just taken it and shut up. But we should like, that doesn't do anything to protect you as a creator. And it certainly doesn't do anything for the creators who are coming, you know, coming after you

who might not have as big of a profile as Monique. And so I think it was, I think it's good that she in public is saying, like, it's okay for me to ask questions about how I am being compensated.

Another good example is, like, the woman, the showrunner behind the show, the HBO show, I May Destroy You. It was like there was this great piece of, yeah, who was so phenomenally talented but like there was a piece about how that show was going to go to Netflix and that she didn't want

to have a Netflix a deal with Netflix because she was like it's not clear to me, you know, how I'm going to be compensated, how it's going to be treated. And I think we should normalize particularly marginalized creators asking those questions and doing so in public and feeling empowered to be like, well, wait, is this going to be a good move for me? I don't have to just say yes, because Netflix comes knocking.

Like, I can have some agency and push back and say, I know my worth and I want to ask some questions. And I don't have to just be grateful because you deigned to have me join your slate. That interview is so fucking incredible and like i'm i'm so glad that she shared that anecdote too because when she kept i mean i love how that anecdote ends where it's like she keeps pushing on this uh netflix exec saying like why can't i have a percentage of my own work like what what is the point of that and is kind of getting like a corporate deflection of like oh well it's really not that big of a deal and so michaela cole says like well if it's not that big of a deal then

give me five percent of it knowing that they were going to keep saying no and before like i think doesn't it go that before uh she you know when michaela cole's kind of like i'm not going to do this with netflix and the netflix executive on the, who was a woman, said, good for you, like, off the record, good for you, you're doing the right thing. Click. Like, they know what they're doing. And, like, we should keep pushing, keep asking.

A thing about that anecdote that I like so much is that she's, like, she has a... One of her negotiation tactics is just, like, continuing to ask questions, even when she already knows the answer. So, like, to get them to admit it, like just think that's like we have to normalize like asking these kinds of questions and not being afraid to walk away and not being afraid to ask them and not being afraid to look ungrateful or look annoying or look whatever like fine you think i'm annoying you're sick of me emailing you fine be sick of it but i'm gonna

i'm gonna get my money rhetorically it's like, it's a good rhetorical strategy because you're saying I'm going to get them to articulate that the reason they do it is probably because of some kind of racist or misogynistic reasoning. Uh, but they're going to couch it in this corporate speak. But if you keep actually, you know, examining it and be like, well, can you actually explain that for that? For like, at a certain point, they'd be like, look, man, the company just doesn't pay black people that way. Okay. Like it's almost like, that's what you actually explain that for that? For like, at a certain point, they're like, look, man, the company just doesn't pay black people that way. Okay.

Like, it's almost like, that's what you know, you're going to get. And then they can be like, okay, great. And because of this, I am not interested in working with you. Good day. And that, that definitely changes the tone versus what it is now, which is, you know, we come for our scraps as creators and they're like, here, have a half, half a chicken bone. And that's all you're gonna get because i have the infrastructure to get your to make you famous but no that you know

it's it's about and doing what's right fighting for what's fair and that and that whole you know like mentality of like being whatever quote-unquote grateful for the opportunity of like you can't ask any follow-up questions or you are ungrateful towards this. Right. Yeah. It's extremely manipulative. But I mean, I don't know. I fell for it for a long time. Oh. Me too.

Me too. I stopped falling for it. Still am sometimes. Hey, I've yet to have an opportunity to show that I haven't fallen for it yet. At one day. I'm getting paid in exposure. Okay. See you there. I'll transport myself to Indiana.

Oh, you can get me twitter verified oh no oh okay what about instagram oh no okay okay all right i'll check back in eight months okay i'll thank you it was good experience it was good experience all right uh let's let's uh take another quick break and we'll come back to talk some other stuff after this. Season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season. Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, man. I'm going to be honest. I thought about whether I should give you guys some smoke and mirrors and something amusing. These are troubled times. But really, this is a be honest. I thought about whether I should give you guys some smoke and mirrors, uh, and something amusing. These are troubled times. Uh, but really this is a sad story.

I got, uh, I got really into the idea of falconry and I was like, that's a real thing. Uh, you know, me, me and my,

uh, me and one of my close friends were like, let's dream about what we'll do. If there's a world without a lockdown and you know, a world to come back to. And we were like let's dream about what we'll do if there's a world without a lockdown and you know a world to come back to and we were like fucking falcons bro we're gonna be falcon people now uh so my search history is pretty deep in uh falconry it's a thing you can do uh turns out it's a little bit complicated yeah a little bit more more complicated than we thought it would be when we were more than having a falcon on a glove yeah right right you can't even use a glove at home you got to get it like a special glove we took a pitch back at crack from a falcon or uh somebody who's a

who falcons for a living uh and they were talking about it's actually really fascinating. Like they use it for hunting. They use the falcon. So anytime somebody makes the argument that like Second Amendment, like I need to have my gun for hunting, you could be using a falcon, sir, which is way cooler, way more badass. Just breed a bunch of cool falcons. Or if you had like a, I don't know what the term is, like a fleet of owls.

Because you know like that one murder mystery where they thought maybe the owl got the woman at the base of her skull and shit. And you just have these like owl assassins and shit. Yeah. Owl assassins. Staircase, yeah. Exactly.

Be a real whodunit. Here's why I'm not going to be a falconer. Sorry, Ben. I have to retire after that whodunit. Here's why I'm not going to be a falconer. Sorry, Ben, I have to retire after that whodunit from Miles. Bring me my crown. Our show has peaked. But yeah, the stats, I don't have them in front of me, but the stats on the number of school mass falconings uh are are much lower than uh gun violence so those are just facts jack and that's what i love about this show that's right i saw a guy like a falconer i know i think lafc the mls team like there's like a falcon or a hawk or someone who's like part of the team and i saw the guy who's the handler like walking through like the concourse and like this like bar and the like while he's talking the walking through like the concourse and like this like bar and the

like while he's talking the falcon took the wildest shit like on the table next to him and it was funny because the falconer didn't even flinch and the woman he was speaking to is like neck almost broke when she's like oh i think and he was just bulldozing through it i was like okay yeah the falcon's edge. Yeah. I got to tell you, guys, I got to confess just real quick. Here's why I'm never going to be a falconer. I got in over my head. I got in too deep.

I didn't order anything yet. I'm not responsible for raising a falcon. Thank God. It turns out that there's a way that people, falconers, had to save some falcon species. And they basically, they invented a very specific type of hat. Yeah. And they would have the falcon bang the hat while someone was wearing it to help the species reproduce.

And I was like, this is not what I signed up for. Wait. I'm just not there yet, have sex with the hat? Have sex with the hat. Okay. Okay. Where do I sign up for this hat? Let me show you.

Wait, that weird hood that keeps them blind until it's time to attack? No, it's a hat that the Falconer is wearing. It's like the falconer helmet the equivalent of a football helmet for falconers is a hat that the falcon fucks yep falconers are genuine falconers are some real headbanging stuff wow quite literally wow okay so yeah well i guess you know to each their own um that's i wish i didn't know that but

uh well i'm now that we're there i mean what do you do like you can just leave it and the hawk knows what time it is already you're like is that the hat okay thank you i'll come back in five seconds like i don't how does it work like no you have to be wearing it i think is that right yeah you have to wear the hat and it fucks the hat while it's on your head you could you could see videos and the people wearing the hat like make falcon noises like the equivalent of falcon dirty talk yeah you know and and oh yeah i get i've seen a million times uh literal uh skull fucking oh wow yeah okay yeah so i'm i'm just saying i i am not going to judge him far be it for me to yuck someone's yum uh all respect to falconers it's

just anybody who says that's a skill anybody who says yum while that is happening needs to be put in prison just getting their getting their hat fucked by a falcon and they utter the words yum well you're being too simplistic i'm saying yum because i know that hawk is gonna catch so many yummy mice later yeah that's true okay cool cool also yum to the way it's fucking oh it seems like debasing you know what i mean like at that point are you are you actually in control of the falcon but i'm watching the videos and the the falcons are all very pretty ricky about it like they're really just like putting in like very smooth uh they put on a little r&b and just like give give some dramatic uh no i'm just joking uh i'm not watching the video. I never will.

That is my vow to myself. It looks like the hat, and this one looks like a crock. They turned into a bucket hat. It's like, I think, a training hat or something. Anyway, this will be a whole other episode we'll do. No, I mean. Sorry, guys. Sorry. That's why I got out of it.

You can't do a search history that deserves to be its own like 25 part of 25 series. All right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly zeitgeist. Please like, and review the show. If you like the show, uh,

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