The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - GBF: Coaching Changes w/ Adam Schefter, Chris Long and Golic

Episode Date: January 11, 2024

Adam Schefter discusses Bill Belichick and the Patriots parting ways, Michigan winning the National Championship and plays game of If Belichick Calls with Stugotz to try to guess where Bills lands. Chris Long was shocked to hear Pete Carroll was let go and weighs in on what environment he thinks might be best for Belichick. Mike Golic weighs in on Nick Saban's retirement, Belichick and Carroll. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. God bless football Billy Gill. God bless football, Michaelic. God bless football, Mikey A. God bless football, Stu Goss. Thank you, Mikey A. Three coaches, legendary names of the game. Gone in the span of 24 hours, one fired, one with a mutual agreement, of part ways at noon Easter and that is Bellaget of the Patriots and one who retired we think. But my goal is has a has a bone to pick and I love a good bone to pick. What Billy are you aware of the nature of the bone that my goal is to pick with me? I am unaware of the nature of the bone to pick with you the fact that he has one bone to pick with you surprises me. I guess it's the latest bone to pick with you.

You are a, listen, you have your stugotsian way of doing this line of work that we do. And sometimes what you like to do is drive a wedge where a wedge doesn't need to be driven. And you did it. Oh, shit. You did it. Oh, shit. I already know where this is going. I you did it. Oh shit. You did it. Oh shit. I already know where this is going. I did do it.

I know. Oh shit. I don't. Don't look at me. Lee, see, doesn't it? Yeah. Olican Smetti, my partner, Jess Montana. Oh, I love Darley.

She graduated Notre Dame with my daughter. I love her like a daughter. We have a great time doing a show together. I know. By the way, incredible baker of baked goods. I did the game in Miami last week, her and a boyfriend bought me a bunch of chocolate chip cookies. But before that, I left there.

We were talking to Christine Leesey from ESPN, who was a monster Buffalo Bill fan, and also Bakes incredibly well. And I talked about both of them in their baking and just said that you said to her that I said Christine Leasey was a better baker than Jess Metana, which I did not say that and you are trying to drive a wedge between me and my podcast partner. I mean that's the way I heard it. I'm not certain how Billy heard it, but I like you, Christine Leesey takes more chances.

That's what you said. Yes. So better never enter the equation. They're both excellent. And they do it differently. As I said, Jess is more the mainstream, what she bakes. And Christine Leesey will take a regular chocolate chip cookie and bacon Oreo into it.

I mean, she does some funky stuff. That's essentially saying she's the better baker. No, I did not. She is different. You do it differently. It is right. Right? You do it better though. You do it differently. Who's better, Mike? They're both the same and I love them both. What are you trying to drive a wedge in the end? Maybe I won't cook. Well, you're saying is Jess is the safer baker takes less chances. Yeah, she, she's not as skilled. No, I did not say that.

Absolutely not again, her parents, you're trying to do what stew does. No, I would never. I would never. They bake differently, but they both bake greatly. Right. I would say that what I'm trying to do, I don't know if it's better or worse than what Stugats is trying to do because Stugats does these things with an agenda, right?

Like if he breaks you and Jess up, then there's an opening for him. I do these things just for my pure enjoyment. Oh, dude. And then I just go on my merry way. I'm here in agent of chaos. Yeah. He's the Joker. I just like to laugh.

And then I go on and I don't do it. Billy is one of those guys who drops the bomb and walks away from the scene and you see the explosion behind him And he's just smiling as he continues to walk right and sometimes sometimes I'm like what was that? Right, but he had nothing to do with it. Right, right, right, weird. What I don't hear anything about it. What I don't smelly by the way is Christine Leesey just happened to be our guest and Goliath being the nicest man on the planet.

Of course, he's going to say Christine Leesey to her face. I said, Smettie, if you were on the podcast with us that week, he would have said you. I mean, I did not, but I never said Christine was better than Jess. You put that in Jess's head and and try try to start a riff. So just to be clear, three all-time legendary coaches and Mike Crabill lost their jobs this week and we're talking about baking. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Guys, we're talking about someone I deal with a lot in Jess. I don't deal with those guys that got fired a lot. So, you know, I'm taking care of what's closer to me. Okay. Yeah. It is funny. It is funny, Mike. I think to see the three different spins that were put on

essentially the same situation. One of them was kind of moved out of his role, but given an elevated role somewhere else in the organization that's undetermined. And we don't know what's going on. Belichek, we're still waiting kind of on the phrasing on that one, right, when they have that press conference. And Sabin just retired, which seems like he actually was in control, but you also do wonder, like it's been a couple of years for Alabama's, like the booster's kind of getting tired of Sabin there.

I don't think that's what was that play, but you do sometimes wonder with all the money that's there. You do wonder, but I personally, with the Alabama situation, don't wonder. I think Nick Sabin is walking away from there in his own terms. And whenever, and for the pros, or whenever you heard mutual, that's ridiculous. Bill Belacek and Pete Carroll are getting fired. That's just the way this is. And they're doing it the right way in New England to basically take the

high road, say it's mutual, they'll throw roses, craft and bellichet, bellichet at one another. So they're ending it in a good way. And I'm glad. I'm glad after all the years and success, there won't be the animosity. But let's make no mistake. If Bill wanted to be back and Pete wanted to be back, They weren't going to be back. Those teams made changes and really with Seattle too because Pete Carroll wouldn't even get into it. People tried to ask, you know, so what happened? He said, I'm not getting into the specifics. To me, there's no doubt he wanted to keep coaching and they wanted to make a change. And now they throw in the advisory role thing, but until

we have eight openings now in the NFL, until somebody comes a calling and stew, this is what I find amazing. We have eight openings in the NFL. Think of the range of possibilities of coaches. You have Bill Bella check who definitely still wants to coach. He's got 15 more wins to be the all time winning as coach over the next. He's coach, you might. I agreed. Pete Carroll may wants to coach. He's got 15 more wins to be the all time winning his coach over. He's coach Mike. I agreed. Pete Carroll may want to coach. He's coach.

You all may come back to the NFL. Yeah. Mike, Mike Vrable just, just, you know, was released and he'll be co, you know, be like go to Ohio State for all we know. He may, but he's going to be somewhere. Dan Quinn, who's always looked at to be another head coach again. It's all these names before you get to the hottest coordinator. We always talk about this every year, who's the highest coordinator. And Ben Johnson, the Oste from Detroit this year. So if you're an owner now, what do you do? What's the priority list of a 71 year old, Bella checkchek a seventy two year old p carol who want to

keep coaching uh... you know a ten year old ben johnson you know who's a the young you know up in commer of rabble who has been a coach a dan quen who has been a coach i mean it is amazing the the possibilities out there and i'll throw a wrench into this some other coaches might get fired coaches who are coaching this weekend in the NFL. Right. I get right here to if their teams lose. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. This is so much. I think what's happened, by the way, seven combined super balls between these three coaches, seven combined super ball wins, eight

national championships. People forget Pete Carroll went to what he right see. What is Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks. Should I want a second Super Bowl against Bill Fowler check. Bill a check would have five and Carroll would have two. It is crazy what has happened here in the last 24 hours. Were you surprised by Sabin and Mike, I will say this. I think what Sabin looked at that was, hey, 12 team playoff, transfer portal, NIL, I'm 72. I'm regarded as the greatest college coach in the history of the sport. I want nothing to do with where this sport is going. Right. Well, the first thing I always hope when there's somebody of age like this that's retiring, that means people around them are of age. The first

thing I hope is there's no reason, right? That there's no reason outside of football from a health reason to anybody him or anybody around him. You hope that's not the issue, but you know, in their 70s, you know, so we'll see on that. Listen, this was a guy. Remember when college football started opening up fast paced. He's trying to sub his guys and the other teams run in a mile a minute and he said is this what we want football to be and the answer was yes, this is what we want football to be. So he adapted and continued to kick everybody's ass the new way of football of going fast pace. He just adapted and he was still great at it.

So I though to your point, I definitely think there's some of coaches who have been around for a while that don't like what's going on now. And for their part, it's not going to change. So it's adapt or die. Is that part of it? I'm sure it's not one specific thing for Nick. Is that part of it that the game has changed so much? Possibly it is. We'll see, because I'm sure more will come out from this. But I'm just fascinated, fascinated at the possibilities out there.

Also remember Nick Sabin started his head coaching career at Toledo in 1990, and between that and the couple of years in Miami and the NFL, he has had one losing season. And that was the second year with the dolphins. He never had a losing season, coaching college, coaching Toledo, coaching Michigan State, coaching Alabama. He never had a losing season.

It's stunning. I mean, I think we're all in agreement. He's the greatest college head coach of all time, right? Yes, yes, no doubt. Who else is saying? I mean, he's the greatest college head coach of all time, right? Yes, no doubt. Who else is saying? I mean, he's that. Yes. He is that.

Mike, if you were in charge of replacing Nick Sabin, which, man, you want to be the guy that replaces the guy, not the guy that replaces the guy, right? You want to be like the next coach after this coach, okay? But if you were in charge of hiring for Alabama, so you're hearing like Dan Laning, you're hearing Lane Kiffin, you're hearing Dabo Sweaty, you're hearing Mike Norval, you're hearing all these names.

Who would Mike, you're hearing Marcus Freeman, Michael, who would Mike Gullick hire to be the next Alabama head coach? I would, you know, Lane Kiffin's the first name that jumped from what I've already heard is that's not going to happen. So that may be off the table. Then I think you're looking at a guy like landing or maybe Steve Sarkiesian at Texas, which think of the domino effect because Alabama ain't higher in some

OC or DC first time head coach. They're going after power and they have the money to do it, but some of these other schools have the money to stop it. Okay? So it all depends on what that coach wants to do. Texas is back. Steve Sarkkeesian brought Texas back. What if Alabama comes to calling?

Remember Texas is now going into the SEC. So Dan Laning has done a great job in Oregon. What if Alabama comes calling? If nothing else, some of these head coaches that are being talked about still are going to get phenomenal extensions. Right. We don't want you to leave and we're going to give you another bag of money, a bigger bag of money we've already given you.

Oh, the leverage they have today. Oh, my God. And everybody will swing the leverage hammer. But I think that's the area you go. You mentioned Lane. I'd say landing I'd say Sarkeesian dabbo swingy has always been someone that has been thought of there, but dabbo has got to change his thought process. He he still isn't as into the portal as most are. He still likes the old fashion way, which is fine to a point, but you've got to adapt some. And he seems to be fighting it more than accepting it.

So I don't know what kind of a fit that would be in all honesty. So I would look at a landing, and I would look at a sarkiesian. But, man, those are two programs in Oregon and Texas that could throw a bag at you to say, we want you to stay. And then it comes down to those guys, do I want to leave where I am to go to Alabama and, Alabama and follow Nick Sabin.

How much of a role do you think the portal and NIL and just I guess the changing landscape of college football and the way things work now plays in a decision like that for Sabin? Oh, huge again guys who have been coaching for a while all of a sudden it's and listen, they've gone through changes, but these have been radical changes. Now all of his kids jumped into the portals. See, there's a quats. Again, radical changes have gone on here where normally guys that are going,

you know, Sabin's picking to come to Alabama, they're standing in Alabama. Now, man, you can miss on a guy, but get him a year later, right? You can say, oh, well, I missed on that guy. A year later, the guy wanna could say, oh, well, I missed on that guy year later The guy I want to come back or come to come to that school and now you got to pay for him You know now it's it's and I'm still scratch my head at the Kyle McCord situation at Ohio State You can come back and be a quarterback at Ohio State even though Marvin Harrison Jr

He's going they just replaced a five star with a five store star But supposedly he didn't like the money that was out there. So I went to Syracuse. I mean, sometimes you can be short-sighted in the now as opposed to what can prepare you better for what you're trying to achieve. And I don't know if Coma Court was ever going to be in that NFL quarterback, but he would add a better chance in showing his where I believe at Ohio State, then it's Syracuse, but from the report you hear, the money wasn't right.

So that's where we are now as well. Well, the money wasn't right, and plus a lot of less competition at Syracuse. Mike, you could have been a stroller there, you know? Well, yeah, that is very true, because, but at this point, we hadn't heard of anybody else that would have been a young quarterback at Ohio State. And listen, that's a one thing that's a one thing the portal has hurt is the development of a quarterback because you just go out and get one, right? And I say Notre Dame right up the Steve Angeli, they had for a couple of years as the next

guy coming up, but you go out and you get Sam Hartman, then you go out and you get Riley Leonard. And other schools have done it as well. So that can hurt the development of a quarterback to have a quarterback at your place for as a two or three year starter when you're going out and getting a one year guy with some schools. And I'm not saying it's bad because it can certainly pay off for you. Look at Pennick's junior. He's been at Washington a couple of years after coming in from in Indiana.

It was fantastic. So it can work now, but yeah, Billy, to your point, the coaches now, the landscape has changed and not only changed, but changed drastically. Right. Well, it's also leveled the playing field, right? Where now it's not, I don't want to say it was easy for Sabin, but it was a lot easier for Sabin and Alabama and kind of the kingdom that he built there were now one year to the next.

That can all change. Well, it can because just what Sue said, you know, the guys that are transferring Alabama, the guys that are transferred out of Georgia. I mean, these are all, they're always like one and two in recruiting every year. And they still can be, but it can be different now. Sometimes now a team may take 12 high school students, high school recruits and 12 portal guys. But Mike, do get Syracuse,

you got two quarterbacks they would not normally get. And that's why it's more priority. Yes. Guys looking to play. And again, sometimes players can overthink it and transfer too much, but I'm glad they have the right to because you get four or five years. We're going to pass the six, seven years, the super senior with the COVID situation. We're going to get back to kind of the normal routine

there. And I'm happy players have the choice if they want to move to move. Bellachack, Abel, you had something go ahead. Bellet check, the other obvious big coaching, you know, they're all three of them are big. Mike, they're all seismic. Two, Sabin and Bellet check, once considered the greatest NFL coach, one considered the greatest college coach of all time, funny that Pete Carroll's the guy who wanted both levels.

Yeah, that was the third least important of the three of the three firings or mutually parting ways however you want to phrase it. But with, with, it's interesting, Mike, because you're hearing Gerard Mayo for the Patriots, which I'm okay with. It's a bell-check guy. He's learned under a bell-check. But I keep hearing bell-check to the Falcons.

And for some reason, that just doesn't make sense to me. All right, listen, the, the dominoes that are going to go on right now, because you also hear a new England, oh my God, Mike Vrable. Vrable is drafted by Belichack, he played there. That doesn't mean what it means like in college. If Vrable is going to have choices, and Vrable is not going to go to New England because he played for them. It's not like you go like Jim Harbour going to coach it as Alma Mater in college.

Vabel is going to go to the best situation that fits him, the best team, the most ready team that he can build to a championship team. He's not going to go to New Orleans because he played there out of loyalty. That's not going to happen. If he thinks that's the best spot for him, then he will. With Bill, I guess that's what I was talking about before, guys, is the owners and their choices of why you pick somebody. Is Bill going to go somewhere where there's a complete rebuild? Or are you a quarterback away? You've got pitch, you've got Drake London, you got Bajon Robinson, you got

some hitters, you know, on that offense aside of the ball. And a bad division. But you need a quarterback, you're right. It's a bad division. So that to me is the most interesting thing is where owners go in the fact that you have the older guys in Bella check and and a, and, uh, Pete Carroll, a variable out there. I think a Dan Quinn's name's going to pop up again, a Ben Johnson and other O and D coordinators

who are young and up in comers. The, the selection this year of differences of coaches and coaching styles is almost none like we've ever seen because we haven't had Bella check available like this. Right. Mike, is it worth if you're, if you're one of these guys agents or if you're the actual coach, isn't it worth to see what jobs are going to become available? Like wait, let the picture play out here. See if Philadelphia comes open, see if Dallas comes open, see if the Buffalo Bill's job

is open. Is it worth waiting if your hard, if your hard Bob, Bella check any of these guys? Well, guys like that can afford to wait. They can wait, yes. They can wait. And let's remember, now again, you can do it in a different way, as I'll say. You can't start in-person interviews until I think January 21st, when we're getting past the divisional playoffs.

But you can do Zoom interviews. But we all know there's a lot of backdoor discussions that are already going on. And the one issue, especially when now you have eight teams and maybe more is how long do we wait for the guy we want? Because if we wait for the guy we want and don't get the guy we want, where do we fall back and lying? Because others have been chosen for other teams. There's eight available and you're one of the teams waiting for a specific guy and you don't get them. But now between that time of you waiting, four teams have already gotten head coaches and others that you wanted.

So where do you fall back in the queue for this? That's what they talked about in Tennessee and firing Vrable in the thought of maybe trading him and saying a trade process may take too long and we may lose out on a guy that we want as the head coach. If a trade doesn't happen for variable at a head coach. So there's timing now because let's be honest, these teams are going to be fighting over the same guys. Right. Gojo and Goliath to 10 a.m. every morning of the Draft Kings Network and wherever you

get your podcast also gojo and Smettie. He did say Lucy was a better baker. I don't know. He says, uh, and he has the Packers and Dallas coming up Westwood, what this weekend? Um, my before we let you go here, just quickly on the NFL because you know, there are games to be played this weekend and they're fairly big. Uh, what is the game you are most excited about? I love your game.

The Packers and Dallas. I think the Packers are going to win that game. How about that? Really you do. I listen, I love that game as well. Obviously, I can't pick that game. But what Jordan love has been doing for this team has been fantastic. And the main thing is, is he's not turn in the ball over. 18 touchdowns of one interception in the last eight games of the regular season. I mean, not and and and talk about getting back into it early.

How young this team is with the young receivers, it is amazing what they're doing. So and we know Dallas, the pressure every year and everybody waiting for them if they can't live up to that. We'll see, I'm looking forward to that game. The two games that intrigued me, Houston Cleveland, because Houston is way early, right? Yeah. The rookie head coach, a rookie quarterback, a rookie play collar, a rookie DN, a high pick with seven sacks in Will Anderson. And Cleveland's doing it with, you know, their fourth quarterback and lost one of the best running backs early in the season in Nick Chubb.

Either these two teams have the coach of the year. It's either Stafansky or Domingo Ryan. It's going to be the coach of the best running backs early in the season in Nick Chubb. Either these two teams have the coach of the year. It's either Stofansky or Dmitri Kyrgyz. It's going to be the coach year. Yeah. And then the other one is without question that Ram team going to Detroit, where the flop of quarterbacks a few years ago. Now first time staffers coming, he's played Detroit once since he's been gone, but not into trade. First time back to Detroit. And with the weaponry, both these offenses have, I am really looking forward to that game. Let's get your thoughts quickly here on Billy's dolphins. They play the chief Saturday night. The dolphins can run the ball mic and they can stop the run. Like, I know it's going to be cold there. It's going to be, you know, negative eight with the windshield,

but the dolphins can run the football. They're great at it. And they can't stop the run. They're great at it. So the bad news is they have three linebackers out. Xavier and Howard is out as a cornerback on defense with a foot and they lost within the last six, seven weeks, including a couple of weeks ago, they've lost their two best ed rushers. So they're hurting on defense. Shoes, I'm doing that bills Miami game. Miami was actually the better team and they wanted, but they kept shooting themselves in

the foot. Now Miami is getting most dirt back, getting waddle back. And to your point, most dirt, H&J, Jeff Wilson, three running backs they have, that can run the ball. No doubt about it. An offensive line that has been piecemeal, the pit they were on last week, 11 different line combinations, so but stable as of late.

I'm with you, but the weather is a factor. There are Ferrari team that is gonna be playing in bad weather, you know, driving a Ferrari in the snow doesn't work well, but this comes down to accidental sometime big plays, a slant to Tyree kill. The defender falls down and Tyree goes the distance, right? Somebody drops the ball, the ball squirts out

of somebody turn over. This is a big turnover. This is one of those big play games that you didn't expect that could turn it around. And in fairness, it should be noted, like part of the reason of the success of the run game is the threat of the past game on the dolphin. And when that's taken away because of the weather, things kind of equalize a

little bit. Without a doubt, the biggest thing in these games is you'll do shorter passes for the most part is you got to make the tackle after the after the catch got to have to and bad weather can can affect that. And there's no way to prepare for it. Zero way to prepare for this until you get out on pregame, see which cleats are gonna work best, see how the wind is blowing to play. And so there's no preparation for this until you get out there.

Coldest game you ever played in, Mike. Minus 10 windchill when I was in Philadelphia, went to the metal nests. And this was back when the stupidity of me and others, when no matter what you did, you couldn't wear long sleeves. And I didn't wear long sleeves in this game. And it was one of the dumbest things I, it's one of the dumbest macho things to ever do,

not that it were to help the minus 10 windshield. But this is back when they had, they looked like the plane engines on the sideline blowing the flame out, right, as your heaters. So I kept my, I would put like my, my mouthpiece around my finger when I was off the field, and I would go over, and I remember going over, put my hands because I didn't wear gloves then either, and I put my hands in front of this heater.

They were my hands are just ice cold in front of this flame, and the mouthpiece melted around my finger. I mean, I was just trying to warm up my hands. Horrible. Horrible. TV timeouts are horrible. It's all horrible. I would rather play in cold more than heat, but when I take cold, I'd rather play in

20 degree instead of 95 degrees, but 10 below windshields absurd. It's absurd. It changes the game. I bet your Reggie White wasn't complaining. Anyway, all right, Mike. We love you. Thank you. Check about Gojo and Goliath every morning, 8 to 10 a.m. on the Draft King's network. A Goliath gets smettied as well, gives smettied my apologies and Packers Dallas this weekend. Westwood won Game of the Weekend as far as Op Concert. That's why they put Mike Goliath on it. It's the biggest game of the weekend

Mike. Oh enjoy your super wild core weekend my friends. Thank you gentlemen. I can't believe Adam Schaefter found in 10 minutes to join us on God bless football. It's um, but Billy is shaking He's head he has no idea. I can't believe he found 10 minutes Schaefter. What are you doing Schaefter? Let's just start here What the fuck is going on? The full legends are going away. It's unbelievable. In under 24 hours, no Pete Caron, Seattle, no Nick David and Al Baman, no Bill Bullichek in New England. And, you know, who knows what else is going to come? This might not be the end yet. There still could be more. We'll see.

It's unbelievable. Once the last time you slept. What's the last night? It didn't sleep well, but I slept. That's the way it goes this time of the year. It's all good. OK. Because you told me, like, I asked you to come on.

I was hesitant to do it. You said, I love you, but I'm busy. I have to get Bellageg off my docket, to which I responded during the busiest time of the year for you. I'd love to see what that docket looks like. Well, I said to you, you texted me yesterday, because you come on, I said, I'm not coming on anything until Bella check is off my docket. Bella check came off my docket this morning, although he's still back on the docket because now we don't know where he's going to coach.

So he's back on the docket, so I could have canceled on you, but what's not like you? So I figured let me let me reach out to Stu Gotts and let's get this back on now that Bill and the Patriots are divorcing press conference to be at noon, Eastern today and get this done. So here we are, chatting about everything that's going on around the league. All right, you are the best. So what are you hearing about? Who's going to replace Bella check and what are you hearing about where Bella checks going to end up? Well in regards to who replaces him I believe that Gerard Mayo is a if not V leading candidate to take over for Bill I think he becomes the guy that we're watching now that doesn't mean that there won't be

other names that are brought into the mix How lob ryan floris or migrae bowl or whoever But I do believe that drug mayo becomes the guy to beat you somebody that the craft no and let's keep in mind You got that basically the craft have not done a coaching search in a quarter of a century Like they're a team there are teams that do this on a regular basis, as the Jets, as Carolina, as Cleveland, as whoever. New England is now embarking on its first head coaching search in 25 years, which is crazy.

As for Belchek, there are eight NFL openings, including New England, seven aside from the Patriots. I think that everybody looks at those teams and says, well, where does Bill fit? And I would say the opposite. I would say instead of looking at those seven teams, and he might fit in a team like Atlanta absolutely, but instead of just focusing in on those 17s, I would say look at all the other teams, and imagine being an owner there, and imagine waking up to the news this morning

that Bill Belichick and the Patriots are going their own ways, and imagine you're an owner and you say, okay, I've got my head coach in place, do I like him and believe in him and have more confidence in him that I do in Bill Belichick. And to me, it's a repeat of what went on with Tom Brady when Tom becomes a free agent.

Every team, it's coming upon them to look at their current quarterback and say, am I better off with my current guy or the other guy? And I remember, you know, there's some keys that made some decisions and Tom found out about it. And Tom is like, just thinking with that guy and not interested. Okay. And I would imagine that Bill will probably feel the same way. That is fascinating to me, because this is this is the greatest coach in the history

of the NFL. And you are right. If you're a team like the Eagles and Bill is interested in coaching the Eagles, you have to at least think about it. It's such a great point by you. Well, the playoffs are going to get underway this weekend. And inevitably, there are going to be some teams that rise up and shine and there are going to be some teams that crash and burn. And so when there's a team that falls short of expectations and they're just asked to be because one wins and one

loses. Right. When that when those teams lose and that owners pissed off that they lost. Well, what are our options? Well, he'll double check an option and and I also would say this I Would guess from the outside that if there's anything that bills learn from Oaching Tom Brady and not coaching Tom Brady He's learned that Rather important to have a quarterback So while we look at these teams with bacon season say well would Bill fit in Atlanta or Tennessee, your Carolina or wherever it may be.

What about other teams that don't have vacancies, but you have quarterbacks? Would Jerry Jones hire Bellacher? Now, we're playing the speculative guessing game, but I'll let you guess your guesses as good as mine. You tell me where you think. Yes, I do. I think if they lose a playoff game, even if they don't, they win one and lose next weekend, I think Jerry Jones would hire Bill Balochek. Yes, I think he's getting old and I think he wants to win a title and I think Bill Balochek gives him the best chance to do that. Dude, guys, we should go through the section size and do that with every single team.

It's crazy. And it will be interesting and intriguing with whichever team you want to bring into the mix. Just give me a note, team. It's crazy. And it will be interesting and intriguing with whichever team you want to bring into the mix. Just give me a team. Give me a team. Just say. Miami dolphins lose this weekend. I think they like my routine. I don't think they're doing that. But yeah, but it's bell check to your point. Okay. Well, there you go. Give me another one. Give me another team. I would tell you the Texans are probably happy with Demiko Ryan. I know it sounds crazy, but I think they're happy. Right? I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that.

Yep. I would say the Rams McVeigh, they're probably pretty happy. Packers happy. A lot lions Dan Campbell, if they lose this weekend. I think they like Dan Campbell, but if they lose this weekend. I think they like Dan Campbell but if they lose it's okay. It's Bella check. It's Bella check. It's interesting. Yes. Keep going. Like play the game. And I'll go you a more play the game. Jaguars. Which teams it. Ooh. Yeah. That's interesting. Right.

Yep. You're going to say one more though. Go ahead. No, I'm just you played the game with teams. In the past, played the game, not in the playoffs. Crazy. But here's the deal right now. Here's the deal right now.

25% of the league doesn't have a head coach right now. Right. 25%. And 100% of the league doesn't have a coach as good as Bella check. Well, there you go. And that's where it gets intriguing. It's crazy. It is absolutely crazy. Harba too. Like if you're Jim Harba Adam, you should wait. You're a Michigan guy. You went to Michigan. Congratulations on the national championship.

But if you're Jim Harba, you might to Michigan, congratulations on the national championship, but if you're Jim Harbaugh, you might as well see how this all plays out, right? Oh, listen, there'll be teams that are absolutely interested in Jim, they're already are. Okay. I think the chargers are interested, I think the raiders are interested, I think the Falcons may be interested, we'll see.

Yeah, Jim Harbaugh, and if I could just do this, I just hate the podcast with John Harbaugh, and we're talking about Jim Harbaugh, and that podcast around Tuesday, and we're talking about what would make him successful to the next level, and is any, was really interesting what he said, like just talking about Games team building skills and You know the guy has won everywhere. He's been everywhere. He's been and so I mean why wouldn't the chargers Make a run at Jim Harbour why wouldn't the Raiders make a run at Jim Harbour? Why wouldn't Atlanta make a run at Jim? Like, there are some really interesting names in the coaching cycle this year.

Yeah. Right. You got Bill Bella check. Jim Harbour, Pete Carroll, like again, I'll say, the Chargers. Doesn't make sense for them to bring Pete back to LA to finish like that day. What makes sense to me? Yes. It's funny, right? P Carol, the three coaches let go in the last 24 hours. Carol, the only one who's won the NFL and in college. It's crazy. Yeah.

And he's got more energy than you and I can buy. The guys are more than you. No doubt about it. I don't know. I don't even know how you're speaking right now. Quickly here. Did you have a chance to celebrate Michigan's national championship? Well, the great part about it was I took my son and my daughter to the game and all my

friends were going and I've said this to other people and I really mean this. In my senior year at Michigan, 1989, my college for mates in high went to Seattle. We went to Lexington for the sweet 16 16 and we went to Seattle for the final four and watching Michigan beat Illinois on Saturday that weekend and seeing home over time among the night to this day remains one of the single greatest and most memorable weekends of my life and To have the chance to watch them win another national championship in person on Monday night, it meant more to me to bring my son and daughter to get them to experience it, but I was talking about it with one of my college roommates in my college pal. We had 89, we had 24 who owes us nothing for the rest of our lives. It's given us enough thrills, and it was thrilling for me to be able to share that with my children and to watch our school

win another national championship that the students at that school today, that the people that grew up in their program will remember the same way that we remember 1989. And it was a special night, it was incredible. I was personally selfishly worried because I knew that it was gonna be a busy week and coaching at debated going down there.

And then when I got down there, I thought to myself as I'm doing the ESPN lineup all day from get up to first take to sports center, to NFL Live, to college shows that didn't even exist on whatever channels that didn't even existed. I thought to myself this is a convergence of my two worlds there's no way I couldn't be here but I was so focused in and locked in on my job and tracking the coaches that it was hard for me to fully detach to experience that night the way that I would want to but

that's that's the job like you're locked into that that that's the most important thing to me and I was room for my school but and I was there physically but mentally I'm thinking what's going on and what's happening in Seattle what's the deal in Tennessee what's happening in Atlanta where's Jim Harbour going like you're totally consumed with that right The point where you can't fully enjoy Houston in 24, the way you did Seattle, 89, but my children did and that meant everything. That's so awesome. All right. Get out of here, man. We appreciate the 15 minutes during the busiest day of the year for you. The Adam

Shepter podcast every Tuesday, John Harbagh, going to be his guest. Adam, we do appreciate. Check them out all over the ESPN platform, breaking who's left and right with 17 phones in his hand and very little sleep. Glad we can get it into your gut. My pleasure. Thank you. All right.

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All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. third child recently. Yeah. Into the world and it was a girl, correct? Yep. I am, I get to do the girl dad thing where the T-shirts. I'm not sure what else it entails yet, but yeah, she's June is almost six months, she'll be six months here soon. And yeah, three is there's no advice that I could give to anybody else.

So I'm three, it's just you just figure it out. How happy was your wife? Because you have two boys boys that like I mean, you know, like how many long boys can you? Honestly, I think I was feeling for my mom because you know, she had three boys and she loves that. Like her life's just like growing up was three boys, and then she changed it to four boys, when my first son came along and then it was five and then you're like, damn, when are the girls coming and then Kyle, my brother, the perfect guy to have a daughter

first, because he needed to calm down, you know, be a little less aggressive. Right. I like the anecdote is the first time he found out I was a girl, he's like, I'm having a girl. He's like, this is the best news ever. And he's like, what the fuck do you mean? I was like, exactly. So, you know, like having girls now in our family,

they're actually starting out numbered. The boy's a little bit in this generation. It's awesome. My wife and I, we just wanted a healthy kid. You know, like when you take time off, like when you're in that kid washing machine, it's easy to keep going. Sure.

You know, the hard thing is when you take some years off and all of a sudden you realize like, damn, we got to hurry up if we want to have a third. And like my oldest is seven and my youngest is four and I'm 38 years old. I know it's different now. People having kids into their 40s and 50s. But we were like, we'd like to be done here soon. So we just wanted a healthy kid and a girl, great.

You know, it's been, it's been awesome. It's going to change your life, Chris. It's going to change your life in the most positive of ways. and a girl great, you know, it's been awesome. It's gonna change your life, Chris. It's gonna change your life in the most positive of ways. Your wife will not, she'll enjoy for the first 10 years, once they become teenagers, everything's downhill from there, but for you, forget it, you will always be a superhero to your daughter, to your boys, not so much,

but to her, yes, you know. There we go, man, there we go. I need a friend, you know, because the boys, not so much, but to her, yes, you know? There we go, man, there we go. Like, I need a friend, you know, because the boys, as much as they're my buddies, you know, they're just, where's mom, where's mom, where's mom? And so like, yeah, I've seen some of my friends that have older daughters, and now I'm starting to see it

through that framework. And it's pretty cool. I went to one of my good buddies from college, married Biff Poggy's daughter. You know, the Charlotte coach. A really? With Harbaugh. Okay. So I went to his wedding and we were expecting our girl and I'm seeing everything through

that framework and he's a great dad and Mally, his daughter, like loves him to death and just watching that whole thing. I'm like, I'm going to be that guy, that macho man with a grown daughter crying at a wedding and it's okay. And everything in between I'll hit the curveball just like you do with anything else as a parent. Total double standard though right? I mean there are certain things the boys could do certain things that the girl just can't

you know that. Yeah I hear that but I also like to think as f***ed up as the world is and as hard as it is for women I'd like to think I'm gonna be like, not consistent, but, you know, I don't know, I never thought about this. You can't raise a girl like a boy, but I'm gonna try to keep the same like, you know what I'm saying? It's like you have this plan.

You're gonna try to be consistent. I'm telling you, you're going to fail though. It's gonna be hard. Yeah, it's gonna be hard. You know, but I wanna get her into like some, some jujitsu and shit and like,. Yeah, it's gonna be hard. You know, but I want to get her into like some, some jujitsu and shit and like, you know, she's got to be a tough, yeah, my wife's really tough. So if anything, she'll outtuff me, but we'll see.

Are you saying in a fight that's not that you would do this, but your wife can kick your ass is what you're saying. Honestly, my wife can hurt me. Like, she's got really fast hands and she's like got that little man's complex and I was body. I mean, she's got really fast hands and she's like, got that little man's complex and like, yeah, it's body. I mean, she's like, five, three. She played lacrosse of Virginia,

but she's like a real ass kicker. And just as always been that kind of person. So I hope our daughter grows up to be like, you know, my wife, which is, and my wife would laugh hearing this, but you complain about your wife's personality sometimes and how hardcore she is, or she doesn't like losing a fight, or she shouldn't back down from anybody,

but that's why we got married, because I love that, and I think if those qualities come out in your daughter, you're like, great, because I can't be there for every minute of that gal or that woman's life. And that kind of worries me the way the world's going. Sure. it's a scary time to bring a daughter in the world no question my daughter plays at Northwestern she plays the cross there oh no way yeah, but you play the cross did you know I didn't high school but But me but me when she was a Virginia like she won't even talk about Northwestern because they beat them every time they got in the final four they're like Northwestern because they beat them every time they got in the final four. They're like,

they're like Duke or something to those gals on that team. But they got a great Alabama of women's lacrosse essentially. Exactly. Exactly. Yes. Exactly, dude. The Greenlight podcast, check it out, YouTube, act, greenlight podcast. Are you still enjoying the media game, my friend? Yeah, in the beginning beginning I was because you're so motivated to build something and so motivated to succeed and take all this energy that you had in your career and then pour it into something else. Like I'm driven by trying to build something and succeed. Like I don't like the attention.

That's been the tightrope that you walk is like, if you say interesting things, you're gonna get attention. If you say things that are bolder and if you're authentic, you're gonna get attention and people are gonna quote you. And that was the thing for a while that while I was like hellbent on building the thing, I also found myself a little bit uncomfortable with, you know, appearing to try to get attention, which you're not doing, but you know how this thing goes. And, you know, there was a while there where I got pretty worn down and didn't like it so much.

I'm kind of coming out of that because I think you have a vision of how you want your life to go in this stage or in this chapter. And then you have to fail at it, so to speak. You have to like, find off more and you can sure you have to say, hey, I don't like the way this is going. And then you can, if you have any control over your life, you can kind of retreat a little bit. And that's what I've done is like,

I think there's been three stages, the excitement. I don't know anything stage where you're just like, I'm gonna take over the world. And then there's the second stage where you're like, damn, this space is crowded. I don't like the attention. Nothing's working relative to my expectations because your expectations get higher.

And then the third stage for me now is like, fuck it, I just wanna build a life that I'm gonna enjoy. The reason I got in this thing is I like talking to people. I like, you know, seeing you on Zoom. I like being able to crunch football all day long. Like, that's fun for me. And the rest of it, like, I'm not gonna stress myself out and chase success.

Like, that's where I am now is like, just have fun, enjoy the football, talk to your friends, do things you love to do. Right. Like, even with guest booking for a while, you were like, oh, I gotta get the best guest or gotta get the big name. And it doesn't always pay off. And sometimes you come out of those interviews and you're like, what the f*** was that? I love talking to my friends and people that I click with.

So that's the stage I'm in now and just trying to take things as they come. I'm happy to hear that, but Chris, you should always be doing it your way. I mean, you made a ton of money playing in the NFL. You have a great life. And so this should just be fun to you. You should just find the funnest parts

of whatever the hell this thing is that we all do. That's what I'm trying to do. And inevitably there's gonna be days where it's not fun, because you've got to talk about certain topics, or you have opinions that other people don't like. I said this in my pod recently, and part of this is not having this attitude as a content creator, but consumers of content now. I feel like we argue about football the way we argue about politics. We argue about sports the way we argue about politics. We argue about sports the way we argue about politics.

And I'm a sucker for conflict. Like, so if people invite me into conflict, I'm going to take it. Right. But I don't want to seek it out. And I don't want to do my job in that frame of mind, like where everything's winning an argument. And I've just tried to turn over New Leaf, we're in 2024. Some guy wants to argue with me about a player online.

Like, if you're not cordial, I'm not going to talk to you. Right. You know, and I don't need to, now I'm going to fall short of that, but I just want to have fun to your, to your point and have fun conversation. I think in general, everybody's got to chill the fuck out a little bit. Like, when did we get to this point where sports were like life and death? And if you have a different opinion than somebody on a quarterback, or Justin Fields, or two, or an offense, or a defense, like we are killing each other out here.

You know, like you don't even need, Russia and China don't need to divide us on politics. They could just divide us on the NFL and we'd be weaker. You know, so it's like, I don't want to be a part of the problem. I want to be a part of the solution there. I want to have fun and interact with people. I see Billy and Mikey laughing over there. Billy, let's go out and think that you just figured out the next evolution, which is a

sports joke called life or death. And that's kind of like, that's the extremes. Like, you live where you die, based on on this tape and then you rotate in and out Guest co-host because they got death. They got died. Some of them are dead. They got died. They're dead.

What are you gonna do? You guys is a perfect game for that show. It's called Shot for Your Life. Yeah, yeah, Shot for Your Life. Let's play it real quick with Chris Long. A shot for your life, a three pointer for your life. Okay. Larry Bird or JJ Reddick, who you taking? I'm taking JJ Reddick. Oh, dead. You're dead. You're dead. You're not off of life for death. Yeah. Sorry, man. I think if Larry, I think I don't think, here's why I don't think Larry Bird gives a f*** about me.

Right. You know, he might put JJ Redd You scared. Yeah, JJ. JJ cares about me. Although he hasn't called me lately or had me on a show ever since I read three. Okay. So you have a relationship with JJ. He's what you say. Yeah. So basically like, I'm going to be like, Hey, JJ, man, like, you know, you know, it's

going to die. You know, that sort of thing. Right. Larry birds amazing. Are people arguing about Larry bird? No. In the year of our Lord 254? No, I mean, listen, you're the first person I've asked that question to who chose JJ Reddick.

Just so we're free. It's just a personal, it's I know the guy and I don't feel like Larry's going to be extremely empathetic to my plate. I can give you someone who's not your friend if you'd like to do it. Yeah, give me somebody who's not my friend. Okay, Larry Bird, who should I go with here? Larry Bird, are you friends with Steph Curry? No, but I'm taking Steph Curry you're gonna die man

Well Larry bird or Michael Jordan your friends with Jordan no, I'm taking Larry bird. Okay, good Chris is everyone else just played this game is like Bob Ryan or like that type of person who the answer is always going to be Larry bird Well, if you have Bob Ryan play, or the other gal from the gal from Boston who's on every every she was on like all the sports reporters and so Jackie McMullan like those people are going to pick Larry Bird. What is right Paul right there? Yeah. Yeah.

You can't you want to see? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I grew up watching sports reporters and so you know what happens if they don't pick Larry Bird? They die. Yeah. They die. You die. Literally someone to Boston will kill you. Yeah. Which which which sounds about right? I mean, and those people don't love me there anyway. So you want a Super Bowl there Chris. Yeah, but I don't kiss their ass. I think there's certain, I don't think all Pat's fans are like this, but I think there's a sense

when number one, I was just a role player there. So, you know, they feel like they lured that over your head like, I don't know that. And then number two, when you leave in free agency, you know, and you decide to leave, and then you go to a team that beach in the Super Bowl and I haven't unnecessarily gloated about that because again, you know, it's a team game and I just got lucky.

But for the few that actually think about me on a regular basis up in Boston, I think that factors in. And then the fact that I have the audacity to talk on the team as a national medium member. So you know how it is. When you talk about somebody's team, they act like that's the only team you're talking about. And for Boston people, I think sometimes they're like, what the f**k is this guy knows only here a year? I know what I see on tape and I don't pretend to know more. Even though you were only there for a year, you kind of, I guess, got a behind the scenes view of the Patriot way and all that stuff. Are you surprised

to kind of see how this is ending with Bella checking the Patriots where it's almost like it looks like both sides are ready to move on and it's almost like he he seems like he's just hanging on and trying to find a spot to pass Shula, which seems crazy at the time where he was at the top of, you know, the football world and he was a genius and he was clearly the best ever. I think it just goes to show you that like football is really hard. You know, like when I'm watching that last game in the snow and he's getting beat by Robert Salah, you know, I know that the Jets probably had arguably the better team on the field that day, but watching him go out that way and it was surreal for me watching the last 18 seconds of that game.

You feel like you're watching history. I mean, you are watching history. I'm watching him stare out on the field. And then I'm watching him walk down into that tunnel. You know, and once he walks in that door, you're like, I'm probably never going to see Bill again in this outfit. Pretty surreal. And bearish, who's his right hand guy is like looking out the door after he walks in.

And then he shuts the door after he walks in, and then he shuts the door, and it's kind of like watching history. It's like watching some world leader walk away from the podium for the last time, only his term was like decades. And I love the guy. I have a lot of respect for the guy.

I think he's a great coach. I think he can still coach, but he needs a fresh start. And I also think he's the type of guy that, I think he's the type of guy that doesn't want to stop. There's nothing that he'd be coming home to. You know, like, I know he has a life, he has a family and probably some interest, but you can't build little model ships

or go on towards the Navy campus, or like, whatever else, hang out with his dog, that can't fill his time. And I don't think he has something that he can, can replace the football itch with, you know, and for players, we always have to do it. You know, we've got a, somebody really smart told me, don't try to replace football. You're going to fail every time. Nothing's going to, nothing's going to stack up to the way it feels to play football. The pressure that you're under, the gun to your head feeling, the highs, the lows,

retirements more about this, right? Like it's learning to live like this. I don't have the lows that I have when I play, but I certainly don't have the highs. And I think a lot of guys struggle with that. We don't have a choice, you I think a lot of guys struggle with that. We don't have a choice. You know, you could go coach or something. But for these coaches, especially when you've crossed

that threshold and you're not like retiring by 60, build 70 years old, where's he going? What's he gonna do? I think he's passed up that chapter in his life where he's like, I'm gonna retire and relax. I do think he can still coach. I worry about the buying the groceries and chefin' up the meal think he can still coach. I worry about the buy in the groceries and chef and up the meal. Just be the coach. Just be the coach. You know, and I think that's

going to be restrictive in some places if he wants to do the same thing. I don't know that every place is going to look at that and say, I think the minority of places would take that chance. I mean, Josh Harris sounds interested in, in Bill, but I know for a fact he's, he's interviewing GMs. He wants to go interview GMs. Do you think at this stage that's something he would struggle with with kind of giving up some of that control after having it for so long or he's kind of at a place or you, you wouldn't know. I don't think he has a choice. No, I know. But you think he'll be fine kind of like, let me just focus on this and get the record. I think it's, I think it's, you'd have to get inside his head and understand the motivation.

If it truly is the record, and I think he tied the record for the most losses at the end of that, that game Sunday, regular season losses. But like, if the record's important to him, he's going to go coach somewhere where he respects the GM, you know, not every place has like a Mickey Luma's, where there's like organizational structure for a long time and obviously the results have been mixed and you know, bringing Derek Karrin was in the best move in retrospect, but I think Mickey's done a great job. You think about like a team like the Saints.

I don't think anybody's talking about Bill going down there and norm I'm applying that, but maybe if there's a GM that commands his respect on some level, I don't know if it's like, hey, you know, there's a GM that commands his respect on some level, I don't know if it's like, hey, there's a situation like Atlanta where it's like, what is McCay do? Right. You know, he's not the GM, but Fontaineau or however he says that he's not even at the press conference with Blank and McCay yesterday.

So it might be a situation like that where there's like a hybrid and he's like, okay, I can live with this. This is a guy that hired Tony Dungees. He was in Tampa for a long time. They've, this is a class organization. I think it's about bill respects who he respects. And if he respects those people, he'll work with them. But it's also about his motivations.

Chris Long is with us. I love him. He's the host of the Greenlight podcast. Check it out youtube.com, act greenlight podcast. Of the available jobs, he, well, let me do it this way, Chris, because I would wait if I'm Belly Check or Jim Harbob because some of these jobs like big jobs might, they might come open Philadelphia, maybe even Dallas, if Mike McCarthy loses Jerry Jones, as it's a game, the game thing right now.

So I would kind of wait if I'm Bill Belly Check. Where could you see Bellachek go? It take a job by job. Like ideally in my mind, you can't go defense again in LA. I know that people have floated his name there. Harbaugh would be a great pick for the chargers. Ben Johnson would be a great pick for the chargers. I do think with Bill like history factors in,

so if like the giants job opened up, I think the giants, like history factors in, so if like the Giants job opened up, I think the Giants, I mean, with his respect and reverence for that franchise, like you could see something like that. I mentioned Atlanta because I think if you look at blanks, coaching higher record, like he has leaned a little bit defense. I know he had Patrino for a year and that flamed out. But you know, like, if you go, I don't think Tennessee, necessarily, I think for him, it's got to be quality of

life, respect for the organization. Atlanta comes to mind. The other openings, obviously, at this point, are the Raiders. And if I'm the Raiders, I don't think that job should be open. I'm an Antonio Pierce fan. I think like Mark Davis, for as much as he wants to be popular, what's the most unpopular thing you could do is pull a Basachi at 2.0 only with a team that played even better and had a bigger turn around. I don't think of them the Raiders that I look at Bill over Antonio. You know, because each job,

it demands a different timeline, it demands a different culture and fusion, it demands a different, like, what are you after? For instance, with Harball, I think he's great with a young quarterback. So, like, don't send him somewhere where you got to retread, right? Or the quarterback's already there, like, I think Jim would be best suited going somewhere where you can work with a young guy. So I think it's a little bit of what are these teams looking for and what is the coach best suited to do. We're gonna get you out of here in a second because I know you're short on time,

but this is great. Let's get some instant reaction here. Pete Carroll out in Seattle. Chris Long's reaction to that. Yeah, I know, look at that face. He's shocked, we're all shocked. Pete Carroll is now out in Seattle. Damn. Damn.

Yeah. Holy hell, dude. I have, man, Pete, I got a lot of respect for Pete. I played in that division for a long time. I think what Pete brought to them was not only, he was a great coach and all that. And he's one of the few coaches that was successful in college and successful in the pros and

But he gives that team a belief You know, there's no reason that as bad as the Eagles were going to Seattle. You shouldn't get beat by Drew Locke, right? Some of the game winning drives that Geno's put together for the last two years the confidence that he gave Geno fundamentally that Geno's put together the last two years, the confidence that he gave Geno fundamentally. Geno is credited Pete and that group with giving him the confidence he needed to revive his career. You go up and play in Seattle,

magic things just happen, dude. Like over the past two decades, if you include the early 2000s, the last 15 years, since more or left there and Pete came on, there were countless instances where I was like, these guys have a horseshoe up their ass. You know, whether it's the on-side kick,

the Green Bay botches, whether it's, you know, you think about the replacement officials, you think about all the lucky **** that's happening. It felt like every game you go up there and something lucky would happen to them in fourth quarter. But after a while, I just realized Pete is a guy who breathes the belief that is necessary to win in those situations into that team. And so, or some of the things he does, archaic, or some of the practices, archaic, sure. And I don't necessarily disagree with making a move

and turning the clock towards the next guy. But I got nothing but respect for the dude. Last thing and we're done here on Nick Seriani. Has he earned it other year regardless of what happens here? When you take a team to the Super Bowl in the last calendar year, I have a hard time talking about firing a guy. I also understand the temperature in the city and the relatively unprecedented collapse. But I also think like them getting to 10 and one was because this is the same team. They've lost some players.

I think they're victim of their own success early in the season where they played through some things that quite frankly were design flaws, whether they're two coordinators that you have to replace and they are Nick's hires, which is relevant, or the linebacking core being completely neglected in free agency, which is the thing that how he rosem's done in the past, or the back end looking like, and banking on some older players playing well. So I don't put everything on Nick, but those were his hires. And if you go back and look at the teams that have been in Super Bowls and had to replace two coordinators, the results are not great and the sample size is small. You know, I think it's like San Francisco in the 90s at one point in New England in the early 2000s, like it just

doesn't happen a lot. So I do feel for him there, but at the same time, he picked those guys. So I think what happens is you say, Hey, Nick, this is a put up or shut up year and we're hiring the coordinators. And, you know, like, I think he's also got to, he's got to relax, man, because I think this thing's tearing him up, you know, I watch him on the side line. He does not look happier healthy. And I know for a fact this guy just burns a candle on both ends, he wants to win as bad as anybody.

He's got to take some of that pressure off himself, get away and let them make the right decisions to put this team in the right position next year. Because I think they have the quarterback as bad as he's played. He's just another example of why, like Cam Newton, what he said, it ruffled so many feathers. But there's so few quarterbacks that are immune to contextual changes around them. And Jalen's not one of them. Right. All right, this is a great person, a fun person and I'm glad that you have kind of found this spark here with the media again.

Chris, just do it your way, dude. That's it. That's all Dan and I can tell. I'm certain Dan has told you the same thing. He has in your way, man. And I appreciate you guys, man. Like, I just want to say this, like, obviously, like what you guys do down there, but, you know, as people in the media that you don't owe me, Dan has given me advice at different points and unsolicited and sometimes not

what I want to hear. But I think he's honest and he's been helpful and you as well, Stu, so appreciate you guys. You got it, man. I want to talk about not football stuff next time we do this, okay? Anytime, bro. We gotta get you on green light soon. I would love it. Stone mail bag, right? Stone mail bag, bro. I mean, that's an offseason staple. So get your uh, get your stash ready. Get the true leave or wherever you guys shop down there. Yeah, I love truly

You had me at stone, okay? Like for good I check it out youtube.com a green light podcast Chris long the host of the green light podcast. He's great. We love him I will talk to you soon bro. I Super Wildcore Weekend, my friend. It's the best. You guys enjoy as well. you