The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1612 - COLLEGE (FCS) FOOTBALL IS BACK, Adam Schefter, Meredith Gaudreau, Kirk Herbstreit, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

On today's Big Football Thursday Pat is LIVE from New York City as AJ Hawk and the boys celebrate ball, as FCS games kickoff tonight along with a four-game slate for the NFL with the preseason coming to an end including the Patriots facing the Browns on Prime. Some incredible guests stop by including, Senior NFL Insider for ESPN Adam Schefter joins the progrum to provide updates in regards to the statuses of Alec Pierce, and Cam Skattebo, along with giving insight on negotiations between Christian Gonzalez and the Patriots, Meredith Gaudreau to talk The John and Matthew Gaudreau Foundation which expands access to youth hockey while supporting families in the hockey community who have experienced tragedy and assisting those impacted by drunk and reckless driving. College Gameday Analyst and Thursday Night Football Color Commentator Kirk Herbstreit who expresses his excitement for the upcoming college football season, his thoughts and tells the boys who he likes down the stretch and throughout the season, and Thursday Night Football on Prime. Make sure to subscribe to ⁠youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow⁠ (http://youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow) or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+.We appreciate the hell out of all of you, we’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello. Thank you so much for tuning in. And Michael, you did a phenomenal job on the golf coverage. And ESPN is absolutely smashing the golf coverage the last couple weeks. That'll continue on ESPN Plus until it's repicked up here and wherever you can watch it. And we're very lucky I am live in a hotel room in New York City. Overlooking the U.S. Open just got done with an orientation with the NFL now that I'm a part of NFL media. Obviously, been keeping track. as everybody has with what's going on down at Eastlake in Atlanta. Don't know if he saw it this morning. Ryan Fox champion this year on the PGA tour out of New Zealand. He starts out bogey, bogey, and eagle. That's par. That's par right there. That's a tough way to golf.

If that's what you're going to continue to do, we will certainly show respect for our rugby playing lad. But we have an update. Adam Scott and Bob McIntyre tied at three under through seven and eight holes, obviously, respectively. Victor Hovlin, Tom Kim, and Alex Smalley roundout the top five, who will get a playoff dub as Eastlake. Atlanta continues on ESPN Plus, and we will be live for the next two hours.

We got a lot of guests. We got a lot to chat about. The football is alive. The NFL orientation gave me some information in tonight. FCS football games that are actually real will be taking place. Foxy, let's get this thing started live back to Thunderdome. The following program is a collection of students talking about happenings in the sports world. It is meant to be comedic informative.

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All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. You paint in it! You're a friend to other friends, something nice could change their life. Welcome in to the Thunderdome. I am not Pat McAvey. I'm A.J. Hawks sitting in at Pat's desk as you saw him join us from an oversized New York City hotel room. Football! It's obviously all the rage, Pat.

That place looks amazing. I know Gump is in the background kind of running. through the little bar cart situation. What's going on there? How are you guys doing? I'll tell you what, Gumpie's, I guess he's tending bar, keeping the bar. He is 15 to 30 seconds behind us because what his AirPods are connected to is a delayed version of the show. So anything you guys say about this LOD who's up here,

obviously holding things down in the back, he won't hear for 30 seconds. Just know we're having a great time in New York City. Obviously, this hotel room is gigantic. I have no idea the amount of things that have happened inside of this hotel room. It does feel like it was probably built in like 1920, but the fact that we get a chance to broadcast live from here feels historic. The reason why I am here,

the reason why we are here is because the NFL had its like media orientation day for ESPN, where they run through a bunch of different rules. Big Walt Anderson day today. Big water. I listen to Walt Anderson talk for an hour and 20 minutes in a boardroom this morning inside the NFL offices. That's a boy. Walt, Walt's thrown a fastball.

And I will say we have given Walt a lot of. problems and a lot of gruff, okay, for a lot of things. He certainly loves football, and he is obsessed with all the rules. Jason Kelsey, obviously, asking a few questions about some of the rules. And, you know, there's some offensive pass interference, illegal contact, shaving rules that have been heightened and added. And, you know, this thing's two and a half hours long. So if you're asking questions, you know, it's only going to expand that. Jason Kelsey had some great questions.

Kurt Warner had some great questions in there. Scott Van Pelt had some. some great questions, obviously. The Monday night football team, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, are in there. Like the entire ESPN NFL media was in there, and Walt Anderson was holding court. Just know that they're leaving no stone unturned to make the game better. They want these reviews to be expedited. Okay, we're 15 seconds faster than we were last year in a year before that, 30 seconds faster than that.

So you do the math, that's almost 45 seconds to a minute faster from just two years ago. That's the advancement of technology. Now, Alberto Riveron's getting back into the saddle with Mr. Butterworth over there. at the Art McNally review room. And I'll tell you what, I don't know if I love that or hate that, but I do appreciate that it was very evident that Walt Anderson. He's very invested, loves the ball, football, loves the league, and they're trying to get it right.

Now, Walt's 70-something, Alberta River on 60-something. I mean, it's like 130-some years together, obviously, doing the reviews stuff. But Butterworth's in there holding it down. I like what we're doing. I like what I saw. I saw a lot of slides about, you know, the initiatives that are potentially going to be pushed this year. It's like we got a huge year for the NFL and obviously very lucky and thankful to be a part of that. The hip drop tackles very rarely called in the games normally become a review, but now there's obviously a strike thing that's going to be happening.

If you get a couple of these, three of these are going to be suspended a game. It's like I think they are trying to make things better for what the current state of football is. But obviously it's a Titanic. It's a sport that everybody loves. I mean, Jason Kelsey is offensive lineman. Jason McCordy is obviously a DB. And then you got Kurt Warner, who's a quarterback in there. So you got a lot of different ideas coming from a lot of different positions,

and they're trying to make everybody happy. But what I'm saying coming out of a two-and-a-half-hour corporate boardroom, slideshow, multiple speakers. Exciting, yeah. Like an electrifying environment. Was there a lot of back-and-forth, though, for real? If someone sitting up there were talking for an hour and a half, I would assume there's some give-and-take, right? They weren't standing.

They were sitting. Everybody was sitting, and then they passed the remote to. control the screen that had the decks on them, you know, all the different stats and videos and everything. I sat right, so the screen was right to my left. The whole table was right to my right. So I was in worst, literally maybe worse spot imaginable. So it was a decision that I guess Kelsey, Kurt Warner and I made without us knowing we were at the very end of a very large date. I mean, this thing might have been marble. The NFL is doing good. It turns out it seems like they're doing really good, good board room they got.

But everybody was in there. And it was cool to kind of get the direction in which the league has had, especially because they're at the top of the world. Obviously, a lot of international games happening. Love that. Flag football, the way that's growing from a youth level to a college level. They're hoping by 2028 potentially have a college national championship, which would then lead into the Olympic flags football, obviously, in L.A. in 2028.

So it was cool to learn all that stuff. It was, boy, they are not really in the big. business of keeping people awake, though. That does feel like we were trying to get information out here. This ain't a fucking song and dance game. This is, hey, we're going to feed you some info. So you guys understand what's going on this season. And we got a lot in there.

And I want to say thank you to everybody at the NFL that has obviously worked tirelessly this offseason. But there's a lot of different committees that are meeting on different things. It's like, how many people are doing what in this place? It's like, oh, so the league is in a good spot. and I'll tell you what, if the league wanted to go anywhere faster, they'd put their hitch right on the back of a ram truck, wouldn't they? Hell, yeah, huh? Yeah, this thing would drive you at top of the mountain internationally.

It doesn't matter if it's South America, Australia. Do you know there's 20 million NFL fans in China? What? Excuse me? When are we playing there? Well, it seems like only a matter of time, because all the big numbers of where the fans are have all had games, except for China. China had 20-some months.

million fans on their little graphic that they had. Australia, obviously huge, but you take a ram truck to any of these places. Now, I've never been China. I never been China. I think they got some big monst topography pretty crazy. Yeah. The ram truck had no problem. They're actually wondering if that wall that they had, if the ram truck delivered all

bricks for the, uh, for the great one. Now, it might have been a little bit earlier. It might have been before ram trucks existed, but ram trucks are best down the line. Toxic Table at Boston Conner at Ty Schmidt Conman. I'll have you know the league that we invest a lot of time in. It does feel like they care. You know, it didn't feel like it was a bunch of robots talking. It did feel like they really, really care about everything.

There were some little tweaks to the kickoff rules and things. They're talking as if it's like a Super Bowl change that you get an extra floater that can move in the lineup zone. So I feel like the NFL is in a good spot. And forget all that. It's FCS football. Yeah. States playing tonight, Conman. North Dakota's playing tonight, Con, man.

There's big spreads because we've got good teams playing real football. Should we be as jacked up as we are for this? Are we all watching the last preseason game where we only have our batch of preseason games or we're only going to have one starter playing tonight, which is Justin Herbert, con, man. Yeah, that's fair. And the Patriots are playing tonight, which is cool too.

But some of these games started at 6 p.m. Okay, on ESPN Plus. Yes, we should be jacked up. This is, like, kind of the first sign that football is back. You know, first time that real football is back. Yes, it's FCS, and I get that. And sure, half these schools, if not all of them, I don't know what state they're in or what their mascot is

or who's on the team or who's the head coach or who's the quarterback or any of that stuff. That doesn't matter, okay? Because we've been going through training camp and these preseason games. And preseason, of course, is awesome. You know, I'm excited for the Patriots preseason game tonight, too. But this is real football.

This counts towards the record. And who knows? one of these teams you watch tonight, all of a sudden you're thinking, you know what? I'm going to be an SIU Saluki fan going forward for the rest of the season in the FCS. Or a Maine Black Bear fan. There's many different

teams up there. I'm just saying. And some of those teams are ranked. This isn't just like the worst teams in the FCS. There's some top 25 as FCS football teams on there. That's going to be showing legitimate football. So yes, the spreads are big. Whatever. You can still go on draft kings and place a couple

bets make more interesting as well. It's going to be fantastic tonight. Responsibly, obviously huge spreads because we have no idea what's going to happen with FCS game, but preseason tonight and I'm pumped about these preseason games. We get Stets and Bennett taking on Justin Herbert. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys AP tone. Jim Harbaugh said what? Herbert gets one series last preseason game and then two series this preseason game depending upon how it goes. I know they've had some injuries. He's the only starter that we see unless Fernando Mendoza is.

obviously named their starter for the Raiders, but we got some good teams playing tonight. We have a starter playing tonight. Herbert, looking at two series? Is that what Jim told us? Or what do we know about all these guys? Yeah, when Jim was on last week when his dauber was done, he told us one week or one drive last week, which I believe was a three and out. So I assume they're going to want better drives this week with Herbert. And he told us two this week most likely. Obviously, things can change in that situation. The only other one where your starters, may pop up or a starter may pop up. Is that Raiders one? They said Kirk, if he does go, it would be

very quickly, maybe a series or so. So probably getting a heavy dose of Fernando there. And then the other ones, I mean, you're getting some preseason quarterbacks at it that have been very, very solid. Mack Jones and then obviously the Rams quarterbacks, both of them with Stets and Raisin' Hale and Ty Simpson. And then you got, you know, my pies on up there in New England. I think it's going to be a good night of preseason action. Obviously, the Steelers, we don't know who, going to start there, but I assume a heavy dose of Will Howard and Drew Aller again. But it'll be a nice, beautiful preseason night

there tonight. Okay, so for the Pittsburgh Steelers tone, I heard Ben Rodgersberg said, cut Mason Rudolph. AJ, did you hear that? Everybody's getting real worked up in Pittsburgh about what Ben Rothersberger saying, but I think he did say like, unless you're going to carry four quarterbacks, which is a lot of quarterbacks.

And I know there's one quarterback on a roster that can be deemed a quarterback, but he doesn't go towards the 53, especially if he doesn't play any other positions. He's just quarterback because they don't want to get in a situation where nobody can throw a football forward. But for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Aaron Rogers is your starter. Then you got Will and Drew, obviously Drew, high draft pick here. Will Howard's been around since he gets drafted from the Ohio State Buckeye National Championship team.

And it Mason Rudolph, who McCarthy said, oh, Mike Monroe will play long of football. So it's a very fascinating thing that they seemingly have a plethora of quarterbacks, but do they have any quarterbacks that you could get rid of and another team won't pick up immediately, which is kind of an issue whenever you come to the end of training camp. It's like you get cut from a team, you're potentially getting signed to another roster immediately in a completely different city and the team doesn't even have an opportunity

to keep you there. It's like with the two young quarterbacks are thinking about the future, either one of those guys you get rid of are going to get picked up somewhere else. Okay, like that's definitely going to happen. And Rudolph, I think the way Ben was trying to explain, he's like Mason might be the only one that doesn't get picked up strictly because he's not like a super young guy. So if you get rid of him, you can maybe have him on a practice squad if you're looking to keep

off for it. There's a lot of decisions that are going to have to be made there in Pittsburgh, AJ, actually, especially with Aaron coming back and assuming lighting it up. It's like who gets the chance to be in the internship for the year as well? Yeah, who gets the internship? And also, like, are you going to develop these young guys or Mason Rudolph's been around for a while? We know what he can do and how he can play.

But is there a possibility that any of these guys could draw anything in a trade market? Would they give you any kind of anything? think? I think Mason might be the only one just because you'd be an established. You guys just haven't been proven. Yes, correct. An established proven valuable quarterback for a team out there that maybe doesn't have a backup quarterback right now or is worried about their backup quarterback position. I tend to agree with seven on a lot of things he says and I tend to agree with him on this one as well. We know what Mason is. He's great. He's a solid backup. But like in this situation, if you're going to lose a guy, you don't want to lose the two young

guys who may potentially have a future with you. So, and Big Mike said, I'll carry six if I could. But, well, I don't know if that's going to happen. Killer, Big Mike. I don't know if you can, though. I think that's the thing. He said, if I could, I would, it's like, you can't, though. So we're staring down a reality here where you got four quarterbacks,

which might be too many quarterbacks. Joining us now might be a lad who has a little bit more info on all. That senior NFL insider was in the same thing I was in this morning. It was breaking news, live, fall. the meeting that I was in on the opposite side. He had the right idea not sitting directly in front of the screen like I did. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN. Adam Schefter.

Yeah, Jeffer. Whoa. Whoa. Beautiful camera. Pat. Christopher Nolan. A shout out. A shout out to my friend Ryan Bastic with ESPN.

This has been only 17 years in the coming. Like I haven't had a big time looking camera in a long time. It's the same camera. We got a new laptop. up, we changed some things, and here we are. And the camera that we will be doing NFL live from right behind me, like that's also been up for. So, yeah, you know, listen, 17 years of the company, it's about time we get upgraded here.

Okay, 17 years doing this. We appreciate your service. And shout out to Ryan fucking Bastick. You look fantastic. I seriously, you do. You have a little glow to you. So shout out to Ryan Bastic doing that. How about the NFL meeting this morning before we chitch out about the Steelers or Alec Pierce being activated in Indianapolis and running like a damn deer. Everybody's eyes are lighting up. I don't know if you see what's going on there.

Before we get to that, NFL meeting that we were just in, what did you learn in there? Boy, do you guys do a lot of those types of things? So what was that? That we were in there. A lot of information, big boardroom, big table. I liked it. I did like it. I like to see the entire team together.

But it was a flood of info, I would say, that we day to day already not. but like everything the NFL is kind of catching up on. Did you pick up anything that maybe I should have paid attention to a little bit more, anything you hear in there? You know, that's a meeting for the broadcast. It's more for Joe Buck and Troy Aikman than it is for us, right? Like, they're in the middle of games, and so there are rules, there are things going on.

You saw the sunscreens they have on the benches that they're having this year and cameras, like all sorts of rules. Look, the NFL does this meeting with each. each of its broadcast partners every summer, being going to that meeting for 17 years. I personally, like, I've never taken something that I've gotten there and be like, okay, breaking news. That's not what that meeting is.

It's just kind of a primer for the season. They talk about some of the changes. They talk about what they're looking for. They talk about the new rules change it. Like, all that stuff, that's what kind of. Sheffty hates it. Yeah, it sounds like you hate it. I didn't like it, Chef.

Hey, McCarthy. I don't know if McCarthy from the NFL is listening. Shepty hated it. Shepty hated it. That's what he was just saying right there. 17 years I would go to this thing. I don't think I ever hear anything worth a damn. That's what Shepty just said. McCarthy, I loved it, man.

Not the thing to my job. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. It's always a sign that football's near. You're around your colleagues. I like visiting the league offices. I was once evicted from there. You know, it's nice to be welcomed back there.

So it's good. People forget you start an NFL network. You know, people do forget that. Shephti is one of the first contributors to the NFL's television. Now, granted, it did feel like they were just hiring straight out of Michigan. We'll get Rich Eisen, and then we'll bring in Shepty, and then we'll just kind of keep him around for a while, and then Shepty becomes greatest insider of all time, and obviously Rich Eisen becomes icon.

Okay, NFL gets a lot right. I think that's what was being talked about today. We're all lucky and honored to be a part of this season. Let's get to some news here that we got today. You broke Alec Pierce live from that boardroom. He is getting cleared. PUP and now we're seeing clips from James Boyd amongst others

that are out at Indianapolis Colts practice and we're seeing him run. He's looking like a damn deer. Okay, look at Reggie Wayne, get off me. Striding. This guy walks terribly. Even watching this guy walk the last couple weeks. He walks like a 90 year old. Looks like he's skipping around pretty good right there.

What do we know about Alex Pierce and when did this decision kind of come to be that it was going to happen today? I think this was always the plan. that, you know, we're two weeks away from the opener and two and a half weeks, and it's time to start ramping up so he can get ready. And their plan all along has been to have him ready for the regular season opener. And I don't know, first of all, we have to see if he can make it back.

I think he probably will. I don't think he's going to be full go that first week. I don't think that that's realistic to expect. But the way he looked out there would tell you that with two and a half weeks of practice, that he should be able to help on opening day, and if not opening day, then surely they're after. But we're in the window now where if you're Alec Pierce, you're a guy that's out there.

Like, you've got to get into camp now. That was today? That was today? Yeah. Yeah, he's playing opening day. Yeah, he's playing. It does feel like it, doesn't. It does feel like it?

Because they kept using the word hope, hope, hope. And I was scared to death because you and I both know, and all of us know that cover the NFL. It's like hope is like an, easy word out of a hard answer. Like, we hope, we hope, we hope. And that kind of scared me that they kept saying that. And then whenever you reported, and I looked at you in the middle of the meeting,

whenever you reported that Alex Pierce is back. And I was like very excited because he was telling us at the softball game. He's like, man, I'm good. I feel good. Look at my calf. He said, is there a lot of, what's that called, AJ? Atrophy? Yeah, he was like, I was my calf atrophy doing pretty good, huh?

And then he walked terribly away from me. Okay, like he walks terrible. So I was very scared that this was never going to. going to happen, even though they kept saying he was hoping. He looks good. He's a freak athlete. And I know what he looks like, AJ. That's not, he's, what do you mean? He is an explosive player.

He looks amazing. He looks amazing. He looks super explosive, like his verticals 48. He looks like a stud. What do you mean? He does kind of look like Cam Hazard of Hazard of Stunks, the greatest stunker. That's kind of on the planet at this moment. Okay, AJ has a question for you, Shepty, as we celebrate Alec Pierce being back.

Yeah, Shepty, what's the deal with the NFL? What are they doing next year as far as fines and getting ejected from games and all of the Hey, if I knocked a guy's head off previously, like it's not going to count against me this year. How's that work? Well, these are the five categories where if you have three violations, then you're going to get suspended for a game. Hip drop tackles, horse collar tackles, launching, hit on the defensive player, blindside blocks. The league and three in one season?

Yeah. Three in a season. Okay. Three in a season. Okay. Now, there's a lot of tentacles says, I will say this. I got a bunch of texts last night from people saying, like, what are we doing here? How about like using your helmet as a weapon, which I guess could qualify in launching category.

But they're like how many of these penalties wound up being enforced last year? They wondered the effect it would have. Again, they're trying to make the game, what is an inherently unsafe game, a little bit safer. And I can tell you, it met with mixed reactions from the text messages. I think people are a little skeptical about what. whether or not it will really help. But again, you have to applaud them for trying. Huge combo this morning in the boardroom that we were in. It was towards the end because there was a question from, I don't know, maybe director from Monday Night Football. I don't know exactly what it is,

but brought up like, are these going to carry over into the playoffs? Like, does this carry over into the playoffs? Or is there a reset in the playoffs? What if there's two in one game and it becomes your third, you get ejected from the game in real time? And basically what Walt says, it sounds like it's going to be a reviewed strike. So if something's called in the game, even if it stays, they're going to review it Tuesday, and then they'll announce whether or not a strike happened or not. I think, right? Shephti, is that not how you heard the way Walms? Yeah, no, that was the way I interpret it. That's correct, but I think you have it right. Yeah, so it'll be reviewed. Everything will be reviewed, and it'll be decided not in live action

whether or not you get your third strike. I think it's not happening in the game, and then it would carry into the playoffs, I think, if it was still this season. So that was a big part of it. But anything before this season isn't like being held against you. It's like everybody starts at zero. And then if you end up in this bucket, Tuesday it'll be announced that you basically got one. And then it kind of goes from there is how I took it. That was at the end. That was our, what would that be?

140, I think maybe one hour. Yeah, I forget what it was. I was trying my best, man. I really was because I wanted to learn a lot. But that was a big conversation piece because it's like, are guys going to get checked like third quarter of games? Like, are guys going to be like, hey, it's your third strike? You've got to get out of here because you don't even think about that

whenever you just see the rules, but then you, whenever it mentions like, oh, it is like that. And then it's like, no, it'll be reviewed afterwards. That's kind of how they're adjusting. So if you get a third one during a game, sounds like you should pick up six. Yes, keep going. For the rest of that game.

You have to keep going. Yeah. Yeah. If you get one in the first quarter and it's definitely your third one, I don't think they're going to be ejecting you until Tuesday, you should pick up four or five more. What if, what if, is this? impossible? What if you launch yourself at a guy, grab his horse collar

tackle, and then hip-dropping to the guy. Try to play. The hack trick, he had thrown out of the game, suspended right then and there. So it would be funny watching the ref go, hike one, hey, hey, hey, hey, right there, one, you know, in that entirety, but they are, legitimately

it does feel like, and that was very evident from this meeting today, it's like, it did feel like everybody in their law of his ball, which I'm grateful for. Like, they are legitimately trying to preserve ball as much as they possibly can. That was the angle in which it felt genuine in that meeting. And there was a lot of suits and stiffs in there.

But hearing, like, their goal is to be the best for the game and for the league was good for me to hear from them. I think, and people should also know that they think, okay, let's move to more NFL news. You know, Harbaugh goes over to Giants. It brings over record. Obviously, Jackson Dart's a big guy, but you got that boy Scataboo over there. And it's like, wait, Hardball loves everything about, does?

Z, Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Shepty, there was a report yesterday coming out of Giants practice that Scataboo was raising hell, okay? And the defense was just tired of it, just tired of his shit and his act. And then there was actually a player that came out and tweeted, all right, relax. Don't try to start something. And Harbaugh said he's infectious, he's infectious. But we need to make sure it's infectious in a good way. What have you heard about Scataboo in the Giants in that situation?

Is it a whole bunch of absolutely nothing? Well, I think there are people that basically said that they didn't like that Camp Skadaboo was coming at their legs in some of these plays. It started a little bit scrum and practice. I think that that's natural. I think John Harbaugh is right. The guy does have an energy and he does bring an attitude. And you do want guys like that on your team.

I think the defensive players don't always love it and don't always appreciate it. It's sort of like we could go back in time. There are always players like that way. It's Bill Romanowski in football, Dennis Robin and basketball, whoever it may be some guy that's like a pest that you want to have on your team, but probably isn't a lot of fun to practice against. And that's probably what we're talking about here with Cam Scataboo and the infectious energy that he brings to the rest of the team.

Okay, so Harbaugh saying that immediately go, okay, so Harbaugh doesn't just say Scataboo's awesome. He's not just like, hey, that's our scatibu, you know, which some coaches might do in that moment. actually be like, hey, Stadaboo, whatever. He's not like, Harbaugh, how do we think like the team is rallying around Harbaugh? Because we chitchatted about them going down to West Virginia and there was no good. Hey, we're doing football.

And then we talked to North Jersey.com's own Art Stapleton. Big Art. Art Stapleton. And he said if it's two and a half hour practice or hour 40 practice, whatever, every single minute is being used. Like, how do we think the Giants are taking to the hardball culture as a whole? and inevitably, how do you think it ends up from this season as we sit on August 27, 2006? Well, they hired him because they wanted the exact things that they've gotten out of him so far. They wanted more order.

They wanted more structure. They wanted more discipline. But when you get John Harbaugh, you get tough practices, and the players aren't always going to like them. They're tough physical practice, but his results, what he's brought are indisputable. That's why they hired him. That's why he was so coveted on the coaching free agent market. And so look, the first year, I think everybody's going to be all on board. And if they're winning, everybody will keep being on board.

But like with any coach, and you don't win, there are going to be people that don't always like everything. It's like any team, right? Like, that's the way it goes. But right now, everything's great. He hasn't lost the game. Everything, you know, and they're big expectations with the Giants. So I don't foresee any issues there right now. I'll tell you, whenever, in a hardball, obviously vastly different than the gentleman I'm about to mention here,

Man, Jeannie goes to Cleveland. AJ, do you remember the stories that were just rippling through every other locker room about what he was doing? 6 a.m., rookies, full pads, in the indoor. Hey, we're going to establish, like, grit and toughness. Obviously, they don't win games. Everybody turns on them. Matt Patricia, up there with the Detroit Lions, I'm a hard ass. I'm rolling around on ATVs.

They don't win games. Everybody turns on them. If you win, you can do whatever. That's real. It really is. If you can get the lads to believe that you can win by doing this, they will run through a wall for you. But if they're running through a wall and it's uncomfortable and they hate it and they're losing,

it's like, yeah, right, dude. There has to be another way to go about doing this, especially whenever you hear about the teams are at the top. Now, let's talk about the teams that are back at the top. Connor's got a little drama going on with maybe the best player on the New England Patriots. What the hell is going on up there in Foxborough Conman? Yeah, Shifty, why hasn't Christian Gonzalez been signed yet? It feels like once Weatherspoon was done, it was kind of clear cut.

Okay, now Gonzo gets basically the same deal, maybe a little more guaranteed money, and this is just going to become the new highest paid corner. For some reason, that hasn't happened yet. What is this situation? Is this a situation that is brewing where I should get concerned about Christian Gonzalez not being the best player on defense for the Patriots for the next 10 years? and also other corner Joy Porter Jr. What is his situation?

Are those kind of the next two deals and should they happen or will they happen before the season starts? Well, let's talk about Christian Gonzalez first. And I don't think that at any one point here that they've been close to a deal. And Devin Witherspoon and Christian Gonzalez have the same agent. So in a way, he can kind of dictate how this is going to go

and see into the future in a better way than each of the two teams can. So Witherspoon was going to get done first, and it got done at an average of 33 a year. The Patriots have not been in that category, but Witherspoon has established the benchmark, and the Patriots haven't gone there, and they weren't there before, and they don't appear to be going there right now, and they're off on the two sides of money. Now, there's a couple of things to keep in mind here. There's always a rush for great players in contractual situations to get deals done, I think, before this season. Now, Justin Jefferson that one year, I remember getting a call in the afternoon that the deal is getting done within the next 30 minutes.

And then at the last moment, Justin Jefferson decided to nix the deal, bet on himself, play out the year. And then he wound up signing a huge deal the next offseason. Now, you know, everybody gets to do what they want with their careers and their contracts. I always think with a player in the NFL, if there's big money involved, take it when you get it. That's my motto. It's more conservative. And some people don't agree with that. And I understand why.

Because there's a lot of money that players make sometimes that's extra. But the Patriots and Gonzalez haven't been close. Now, I kind of think, like Mike Vrable views defensive linemen and getting pressure as the most important thing on a defense. Like, he prioritizes that. Loves corners, of course. And he knows that Christian Gonzalez is a great player. But if we're going to pay players premiums like up front, that's something I think that's been important to him in the past.

I think they want to pay Christian Gonzalez. But they're obviously not in the same neighborhood right now and haven't been. Thus is disappointment. So, okay, so what happens? Well, I think that there's probably another push before the season begins or at the start of the season from both sides to try to get done. That's my guess because he's too good a player not to try to get something done. and they're too smart not to try to get something done,

and the numbers are there. But if they can't get something done, that just makes me wonder. Like, where is it going in the future? What happens then? Do they wait until after the season? Can they do anything then? Would they even be willing to listen

to potential trades for them after the year? Like, is that a possibility down the line? I think it opens up a whole range of options. If they don't have this deal done at the start of the season or a couple of weeks into the season. Okay, so Gonzo is going to be Indianapolis Colt. I like hearing that. No! I mean, Gonzo, obviously,

Brable was good football players. Joey Porter Jr., also, they haven't appeared to be close either to a deal. They've never gotten close, and he's still not practicing, and he's on pup with the back injury. You know, backs are often confused with contractitis, so that's a few related. that's the way it sometimes goes and they're waiting on him

and he's waiting on them and that doesn't seem to be going anywhere and again I want to point out we're headed into what is always a very interesting weekend where teams go from 90 to 53 and there are trades made

a lot of trades of people like rounding out their roster like could the Steelers get an offer that would be enough that make them think about dealing And by the way, and who would that be? Who would be willing to give up what it takes to get the player and pay the player? Like, there are a lot of people that can do that at this time of the year.

I don't think. But let's see if anything comes out of the woodworks. He hasn't practiced for a while. How long does it take to get back into actual game shape if you're a corner? Like, I have massive respect for Joey Porter Jr. and his family. And I like how all his teammates are saying, this guy deserves to be paid. And he started looking to film. He started looking at the numbers.

It's like, yeah, he definitely deserves to be paid, especially because he is Pittsburgh, you know, generational name and everything. If he was to get traded, though, okay, I think a lot of people would certainly attack the Pittsburgh Steelers for the way they've allocated money towards older people on the roster versus maybe what the future could be in Joey Porter Jr. maybe has another 10 years. McCarthy's come out and said, would love to see his guy on football field with us. We love just, you know, kind of get some worse.

He hasn't even seen him on there. It's like, so if they get a, let's say they get a deal done, what you're saying is seemingly not possible. At corner, if you're not 90 to 100%, you're going to get cooked and exposed. So Joey Porter Jr. is going to have to get back in shape. Not saying he can't, but this is nowhere near ending tone. Feels like the Steelers and Joey Porter Jr., this is inevitably going to be big, loud, drama for the Pittsburgh Steelers tone.

I don't love it, but it's starting to inch into, oh, no, territory. Because like Gonzo in New England, he's been playing. And he's like, I'm disappointed, but I'm going to go up there and do this. Joey Porter, Jr. hasn't even been playing. I mean, he's just been on the side of the back. Now, I'm not going to roll my eyes like Schaefter did. He did. We're talking about Alec Pierce.

Like, I don't think it's accidental that today is the day, right? We see John O'Smith signed with the Green Bay Packers. These people know it's go time. Like, two and a half weeks, time to start getting ready, which, again, makes me wonder what's going through the mind of one Aaron Donald. right now as we get closer to the regular season and the Rams kick off their season two weeks from tonight in Australia against the 49ers. I would think that he's probably getting close to making a decision at some point here

because either you're going to do it or you're not going to do it. We're at the point now like you're coming back or you're not coming back. Does your body feel like it can handle it? Does your body feel like it can handle it? What are we doing here? One way or the other, right? What's the people matter metaphor that people normally say, Schaefter? What's the metaphor normally?

What do you mean? Oh, I know, yeah. Right. That or get off the pot? There it is. That's what it sounds like you're saying. And we're incredibly lucky that Ryan Bastic decided to get off the pot and get your new camera.

You looked amazing. It was great to see you today. First time in the history of this show that I've ever been on a shot that looked more clean and crisp than the guys I'm talking about. you ever. Okay. It looks a little laggy, just so you know. You have been delayed.

Yeah, I don't know. And you are glowing. We know how good of shape here and the amount of moisturizers you use. We can see all that now. That's good. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider. Adam Schfters.

Desier. He did look clear. He said he's more clear than me. I just have an iPad kind of set up here on top of the thing. And it's amazing what the future can look like, AJ. but on that note about the future, Joey Porter Jr. are not getting signed. He is clearly like a future corner in this league, I think.

You would think Pittsburgh, who has a lot of pride in the defensive side of the ball, would want to keep him around, especially with his name, being what it is, and he's a pen state. It's like he's a local story. They can't get a deal done with him. Does that indicate to maybe Steelers aren't all in on what they could become, AJ? How do you kind of see these types of negotiations taking place? And obviously the Gonzo one's been a little bit more public,

but Joey Porter Jr. hasn't even been on a field. I mean, that's a gigantic deal. That's a gigantic piece of news, I think. Oh, it's a huge deal. Tony. How many touchdowns has he given up? One in the last three years. Which is just, it's wild to think of.

But, no, I'm sure the Steelers absolutely want him on the field, but they don't want to pay him top dollar for what it takes to lock up a corner of his stature. And, you know, to Joey's credit, he's hanging out and saying, all right, well, I guess I will hang out and nurse this back injury until you figured out. but what is the end game? Is he willing to miss regular season games? That's the thing. Yeah, and I hope he kicks the door down like T.J. Watt did a few years ago

and gets this done or senior does. But Sheffey brought up a good point about Vrable and the edge rushers and paying those guys. The Steelers have had that same exact philosophy. They always pay the edge guys in up front. Hasn't really been a corner that's got a ton of money ever that I can remember. Yeah, so the Vrable news on the New England Patriots, didn't that sound like Schefter? They're nowhere close on money.

Remember, Vrable likes the big guys. He's not really a corner guy. He thinks if he can get to the passer that can kind of help the corners. But can't the corners help the pass rush as well? Also, if you got a guy, I think you keep him. Do you worry? And now Gonzo's only play is to, is he going to now threaten to hold out? Like, he's been there, he's been participating, he's been playing, and they're nowhere close.

So he's like, what do I got to do? Yeah, I don't know. And maybe, you know, he just goes in and just says, I'm going to lock it down again. But at that position, I mean, you're two plays away from just getting. dunked on and just the entire narrative about you being completely different, let alone being hurt having to react. Yeah. Insane athleticism that has to take place. Like corners, I feel like at corner, you've got to be the most healthy to play because if you're banged up at all, they will expose you.

And the exposing is like deep explosive touchdown place. Like you are losing the game for your team. So if you have a guy that can shut, I mean, Revis had this for a long time. If you have a guy that you can like depend on back there, I just don't think you like, that guy out of the building. I don't think there's a lot of those guys just kind of roaming around out there. And maybe the Steelers and maybe the Patriots just kind of think we could find others to potentially do something similar, especially if we were to change up the scheme or whatever. But I don't like losing unicorns, man. I don't like that at all. But I'm not the one that has to write these checks either and figure out what a salary cap is. We'll continue to obviously cover all the drama happening

around NFL rosters as we inch closer to the regular season just two weeks away as Shepter just pointed out. Tonight final preseason game, slate begin. FCS football starts tonight. There's a lot of magic happening around the sports world. And there's also a lot of unifying that sports can do for an entire country, an entire world, and for a community that potentially needs it. This past summer, we watched our men's and women's hockey team, Team USA, windy Olympics in a huge way. Numbers were bigger than they've ever been. Rallied the entire country is a beautiful thing. And after the men's team won the gold, there was an emotional moment for everybody as the Godreau family was welcomed onto the ice because everybody knew that Johnny and obviously Maddie as well should have been a part

of this particular team and had been a part of this team for his entire life. The family was celebrated, hockey was celebrated and as the eyes of the entire world were on this hockey team, they wanted to show love to somebody that's been a part of their life for the entirety of this hockey journey. It is obviously something that only sports can provide. I love that the lads did this. And joining us now is a woman who has had to be very strong in public. I assume it's been a wildly emotional journey, but now announcing alongside USA hockey trying to make the world a better place and however she can do. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Meredith Jodrome. How you doing, bye?

for that. Hey, no problem. Bad ass stuff. Obviously, we know none of this is easy. You know, like this is not an easy thing to kind of be put into out of nowhere, especially with the entire circumstances around it and everything. So thank you for being a badass publicly and everything you've had to do for your family behind the scenes. We respect the hell out of that. You just need to know that. And also, shout out for doing what you're doing with the Godreau Foundation, raising money for hockey and for obviously other victims that have been through similar situations and families that have been through what you've been through. I appreciate you taking a very negative, turning it into a positive alongside the hockey community. Can you tell us a little bit about the merch line and everything

you guys kind of have going and how we can help support you in this entire journey of not only for your family but for hockey and the world as a whole? Yeah. Thank you so much. So, yeah, it's definitely after the Olympics where we had this idea to do a collab with USA hockey and we just kind of thought it was a really great fit. You know, it was something that John really, really wanted to be a part of. And the merch stuff is fun for Madeline and I to be a part of and help design. And everything we do, we try to keep it within John's style and Maddie's style. So I'm wearing one of the hoodies right now.

And yeah, I think it's really cool. You know, those guys brought light to John's name. and I really appreciate that. So if we can bring light to USA hockey, you know, I think hopefully people like it. And it was just kind of fun to have our two worlds collide. Hell yes, and also making the world better. So we're thankful that you're doing that.

Now, I must say, badass collection of merch right here. Okay, this is a good-looking slew of things. I will rock that hoodie there. Okay, there's one shirt that is a little boxy with my style build to make me look like a fat so so we can't be doing that meredith but everything else there is phenomenal uh you can go to shop dot john and mattie dot com it's a soft launch of a website which we don't completely understand but we know it's operable right now and we can purchase these things can you also tell us a little bit about the golf outing that's coming next summer because i think i don't

know how many spots are possible and i don't know how much you're charging you need to up that because i assume the entire world's going to want to go to this but you're kind of just getting started in this entire venture, it feels like, in the golf outing coming next summer. Is there any other things you have on the horizon? And how do you kind of view this entire journey you're about to go on? Yeah, so that'll be our first big event. I'm close with Kevin Hayes. He was John's best friend.

And we were chatting. You know, he always checks in on me. And he actually thought, you know, why don't we join forces and have a golf outing together? So the John and Maddie Foundation, we're going to join forces with the 11 fund. have a really big golf outing up in Boston. We're going to plan it for August next summer. But yeah, I think it's going to be really great. We just wanted to be fun for everyone.

And obviously, at the end of the day, we'll give back to a lot of special causes. You know, the 11 Fund aims to give back to hockey programs in Dorchester. So it just aligned perfectly. And, you know, two really close families that have been through a lot. So I'm excited to, you know, just make that a fun day for everyone. And August 2027 is when we're going to plan it for. So we'll definitely keep you posted as we plan more with that. We would like to reserve one.

What's the price for these? What are the price for these? You need to up the price. I don't know. I mean, this world is new to me. I have a great team that helps us because I am like, I don't know anything about any of this. But I will let you know and save you a spot.

Okay, so sweet. We'd like two spots maybe, actually. I think we're like two of the foursums now, so there's only 34 left. So charge whatever you want to charge. You already got two from us, but I think everybody will want to support you. You need to know that. Like, we are all massive fans of what is happening and what you're doing. And I assume you're going to find so much fulfillment in this, I hope,

and change so many lives going forward. So thank you for doing all this and letting us be a part of it. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Meredith, I guess throughout this whole process, what have you learned from the hockey culture? I'm sure you've always known about the great hockey culture. culture. We know how close it is, but like being able to lean on some of these people out there that you may have not even known before, but what's it been like, I guess, over these last couple years?

Yeah, exactly. It's more like, you know, it's a small world in a good way. You know, I could call anyone in this hockey world and just know that they'll be there for me in a second. Whether I see them often, like some of my Columbus family or if they're Calgary or anyone, especially USA hockey, like any of those guys all over the country, you know, I don't need, I don't see them as much as I used to anymore, but it doesn't matter, you know, we're, it's like you pick up where you left off. They're really special people. I find a lot of these guys all kind of have a similar personality, and they all remind me of John, you know, they're all kind of, they're all quiet, but then when you get to know them, they're really goofy, and then, you know,

they're all just really good friends, and they live this crazy life where you're all, you know, You might not see each other often, but it doesn't matter. And, you know, they're just the type of people where don't even ask a question, they're there for you. Yeah. I think you need to know. It's not just the hockey community, though, do that for you and your family right now. All the sports is pulling for you and your family. I mean, obviously grief is to have it happen publicly is a whole other animal.

So thank you. We appreciate you putting on and doing this for others that are going to find inspiration. from you in very tough moments as well. Conman has a question for you. He's from Boston. Yeah, Meredith, very excited for this golf tournament. I absolutely suck at golf, haven't played in probably three. You don't get a spot.

Uh-uh. Hey, you're going to have to buy your own. He needs his own. I will. He needs his own. I'll find. Hey, so three spots. Yeah, three spots, please. Thank you very much.

I'll figure out a way to do that. But how was it with the, you know, Olympics? We all saw the celebration in just, you know, that entire, you know, the photos and everything of when the kids were able to go on the ice. Like, what was that kind of like for you? Just being able to see that and see Team USA, you know, bring the Jersey along and everything throughout the whole time. Yeah, yeah, it was, it was incredible.

You know, seeing the jersey is really heavy, you know, it's just looking at it. Like, it's so surreal. I'm like, is this even real life still? And then seeing my kids be a part of it. It was, you know, just one of the most special moments for us. you know when I just always think about when they're older and they can watch that video and look back at that they're going to be like amazed I think it's one of our most special memories and I just kept thinking you know that's the biggest stage ever and John's name was a really huge part of that and you know I know it was so important for him when he was here you know he's really working towards that and it was just kind of a moment where I was like yeah John like you made it you did it like you know so um I was really proud of him. I'm really proud of that team.

So it was just, it was really cool. It was almost like a shift in, you know, this grief journey is really difficult. It feels like yesterday everything happened. But that was a day where I was very, you know, some days are just more special than others. And they're all very hard days. But that was when I smiled back at a lot. Good. There's going to be more of those, especially.

you on this journey and know that we all got your back shop dot john and mattie.com obviously get some incredible merch to help an incredible cause we appreciate you driving the initiative and keeping it moving and you know we'll take four of those spots we'll take four of those spots we'll give one once again you need to up these price i don't know what you guys are playing on charging you i don't know you need to know i'll say this publicly you could charge me whatever the hell you need to charge me so just you can go and do it i publicly put myself in this by i lose leverage all the time. You can't do that to me. You can't do that to me. Please. Those same rules don't apply. There's not. Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It will not. No, no, no. He's got to buy two to get one.

I think. That's what we're saying. We need to do more. We do more of that. We appreciate you so much, okay? And let us know if we can ever do anything for you. Thank you very, very much. Thank you for having me. Thank you for your kind of words. Yeah, no worries. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Meredith Goddrew. Yeah, Meredith. I think those will sell out quickly. Pretty quick. And the golf outing, like, I appreciate just like, you know, golf outings are just like a fundamental fundraiser event, you know,

normally not something that is just so national appeal. As soon as we got sent the information, like, hey, they're having a golf outing next summer. It's like golf out of it. Only 36 teams, right? Max, I think, like, only two per hole. If you do that, I assume you can do it different ways. It's like the sports world is going to want to show up for that.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that's why she, they need that price of those. Uh-huh. That means, you really have to. Whatever it is, tripling. Yeah, especially for Connor. Probably like 10. Yeah, no doubt.

And their, like, the footprint in Boston they have because, you know, the Hayes family also from Boston, they both went to BC and played together. So, like, the amount of people from New England, Massachusetts that are going to be juiced after that, that would actually pay whatever they decide to make it. Like, that thing will be packed on the amount of hockey players. Yeah. amount of hockey. Yeah.

Good golf. Some very good golfers. There's going to be there. There's going to be so many good golfers there because if the hockey players are playing there, we will show up and we will obviously represent in our hack of golf course fashion. Don't you worry about that. We will bring down the quality of golf for at least the tune of three spots, maybe four

spots. I almost offered up a night for her and all of her friends down at Live. I don't know if you got, but I held that back. Whoever wins the golf tournament, we might offer that up. we'll see how that goes, but we are certainly lucky and honored that they asked us to even mention and talk about that. Yeah, I'm pumped for him. Jamar Chase, okay, let's pivot back to the NFL.

Had a scary, hey, that hyper extension looked nasty. And I think when you watch that clip and then you realize that he didn't have season-ending injury happening in real-time, I think you can just kind of assume that maybe some people's bodies are pieced together a little differently. It was nasty. I mean, that's just nasty as soon as you see it. You don't know. Is that an ankle? Did his knee pop?

the hip, and then you see him crawl, and then when he gets up originally, it's like not putting any weight on. It's like, holy hell, this is a gigantic issue and story for the Cincinnati Bengals, especially with how much they've paid their wide receivers to be great. Turns out he's going to make that, AJ, I don't know how. I don't know. Some people, I guess, bodies are just built a little bit different, but Jamar Chase, scary one.

And this is what everybody is kind of scared up whenever it comes to training camp and these joint practices and preseason games, like holding your breath that your star, doesn't end up having a situation that ends up with him being gone on a routine type situation, AJ. Yeah, this is a play that every coach and GM and owner just, you know, they hate to see it. But it's, Jamar going and doing this, like, local radio interview afterwards made me, and a lot of people in Ohio where I live feel much, much better about it. And it is crazy that he's just, he's kind of unscathed from this, right? I know he's a little hyper extension.

It looks like it's a career ender for a lot of people with the fact, you know, probably doesn't hurt that he's super athletic and he's in perfect shape and he, you know, runs faster and everybody can jump higher than anyone else. That helps a little bit. Yeah, and is that freak show in all assets, yeah. And somehow, if I was to do that, my leg would snap at half. And he's good. So, I mean, that's fun to know. Just kind of be reminded every once in a while about there's levels to this shit

and just always remember that. Speaking of levels to this shit, there's people that have a cup of coffee in the NFL, like maybe make a training camp or something, you know, maybe make a practice squad. They don't go play college, but they, like, maybe make like a practice squad or something. Then there's people get in the NFL, work their ass off, backup, play special teams,

have good NFL careers, let's say three, four years of that entire thing. There's people that play maybe eight, nine years that, you know, have a good living, do that. And then there's people that are pro bowlers. Okay. Oh. There's people that are pro bowlers. And then there's all pros, okay? These are people that are carrying the league.

These are people that are making the league. These are the superstars of the NFL. coming together for one weekend and celebrate greatness. Pro Bowl has been happening since the beginning of the league. You're a pro baller, you're a pro baller. Who's that? The greatest of all time. Okay, they are pro bowlers.

They used to go out to Hawaii. Shut down an entire island. Everybody goes out to Hawaii. We'll do a bunch of gimmicks. We'll do a bunch of games. Everybody will buy in. We'll actually play. We'll gather around the pool.

Everybody's families will feel comfortable. The NFL Pro Bowl is in Hawaii. At one time, the NFL decided to no longer make the Pro Bowl a Hawaii trip. They decided, I think it was my first year making a Pro Bowl. You're going to Arizona. Congratulations. They didn't even run out the entire hotel. They didn't even run out the entire hotel.

It was, like, I think they asked me to pour pavement out in the desert, like, on Wednesday or something like that or Thursday. Like, there was multiple things that were being a part of being a Pro Bowl. And I think what happened shortly after there was I just thought this is not what I thought Pro Bowl was, like, in Hawaii back in the day, where everybody screams about how great it is and how. legendary was and we all see the big moments and all the superstars getting together and sharing game and everything like that so i think there was both parties both the players not wanting to really put effort in and get hurt but also the NFL wasn't really investing in making the pro bowl this super duper event either then they've been trying to save it obviously for all these years because

everything on the field had been just like we're watching right there and uh now and i think as i lose a little bit of service there as i'm talking about the NFL and i'm just a block away from them, there's a chance that they kind of went into this. Whatever the case, it end up being absolutely terrible. And now we just have the pro bowlers that are going to be announced, I think, and no pro bowl games. I hope there's some sort of event or reception where the lads get to come together who are the best in the league. But we know there won't be an eighth alternate that'll get a pro bowl jersey or be grittying across the field anymore. I don't know how I feel about it all, but I do know that what the pro bowl had become in the pro bowl games,

nobody was a fan of. So this felt like it was maybe inevitable, but I think a lot of parties are to blame for this, AJ. Boom, right here. Oh, Sean Taylor. No reason for that. Such a classic, classic Pro Bowl play right there. R. IP, Sean Taylor, unbelievable play. Yeah, I don't know exactly how I feel about it,

but I understand the NFL is just kind of getting out of front of it. Like, can you imagine, like, we have had guys get hurt at the Pro Bowl games, right? Where you're playing dodge ball. Miles Garrett gets hurt out there. So, yeah, they're getting ahead of it. And we know, like, we say all the time on here, you can't play, you can't half-ass football. It's either all or nothing really. You can't really, it's not the MLB All-Star game where you're baseball is baseball wherever you're playing.

Football is different. And I think it's just, they're in a tough spot for sure. But yeah, we'll see what this, what becomes of this, I guess. Yeah. And, you know, you said you can't have it. It's like, and when you do have it, it looks terrible. It just looks terrible. And then they go to flag football.

And just like we watched into Mike Rubin super duper flag football games, it's like flag football is a different sport too. So like, I think there's a chance that like flag football wasn't being given justice either by the. NFL guys because they don't know what the hell they're doing. So it's like flag football looks bad, tackle football looks bad, the boys look bad. I think they've been trying to get a right answer in it all doing brainstorming, but it's like I think just being a pro bowler now is going to be the thing. You know, like you're a pro bowler. Congratulations. Yeah, now you don't have to, I guess, come up with fun gimmick games anymore. That's kind of what, they're probably racking their brains for so long, but we got a hard out coming here in a couple seconds. Pat,

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What's happening? Shout to all the pears. Oh, I couldn't tell. Eating a pear. Big stem. Shout out all the pears out over here. It could have been a green apple. There is a couple of red apples and a banana.

I will say this hotel is doing the trick. The air conditioning, 65 degrees in here. Okay, it's pumping. It is absolutely pumping because, you know, I started sweating a little bit in the first hour because we had so many good conversations. It was getting hot in the kitchen, you know. So we turn on the air because it's great.

Space is big. We're in New York. The U.S. Open's happening. Good luck to all parties as they play tennis. Some of the people who are covering the U.S. Open, okay, are staying in this hotel for 22 straight days. Did you know that's how long tennis tournament? tournaments are 20 to straight days somebody is staying in this hotel that i am in to cover the u.s.

open that is that's a rental that that is a long and we are going to cover it and we are thankful that it's happening in real time and uh all the u.s open fans that i've run into which there are a plethora of uh shout to them bringing the juice and definitely like drinking i there was a there was a lot of booze and last night i've been like a tennis match And it's a big part of the U.S. Open. Oh, sure. They have a signature drink, I believe. Oh, good for them.

I'm glad that. Because it looks very, you know, you got to be sitting there. Yeah, but I'm saying, I think it is very that. But it's a part of what you're saying. But I think wine is going down like water. I do believe there is some. They had a great time.

I mean, we were around a lot of U.S. Open people last night as we were trying to have a little dinner here. And it was great vibes, great energy as they go on a 22-day tournament to find out who's the best in the United States whenever it comes to tennis. The talks table is here, obviously, at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, how you feeling, buddy? I know you've been battling the last few days. I like to see

what you've been going through a little bit because adversity, grit, seasons come, and this is what you want from your football teams. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, so that's kind of what I was thinking when I contracted bronchitis over the weekend. I haven't been sleeping a whole lot, so that's kind of been, you know, killing me a little bit. But like you said,

I mean, if I can get through this, then that's kind of just, I'm kind of just, you know, actively putting that on both the Packers and the University of Iowa football team. You know, Jordan Love is going to play again. They've had joint practices with the Cardinals. You know, everyone loves how zany it is, you know, because they got two brothers that are head coaches and they're going against each other. So I don't feel great, you know, you have some good times and some bad times. But, you know, I haven't been coughing as much as today. And I think maybe my body just knows, hey, we got FCS football today.

you know, you kind of need to find it within yourself, and you need to enjoy that. Because I know everyone's talking about Youngstown and how good they are, but I kind of fancy this Mercyhurst Ball Club. Really? Everything I've been seeing. Yeah, I do. I do.

So I'm very excited for tonight. Yeah, but what about UCA? I mean, you talk about the Central Arkansas Bears? They got that big paw. No doubt. No doubt. And not a lot of people are talking about Gardner Webb either, and they should be. They should be.

Yeah, exactly. It's just baseball, right? Gardner Webb's great baseball team, right? Their baseball school outfit? You know, I'm not sure, but based on the name, I would assume so. Webb, you know, like web of a glove. You know, I think that probably has something to do with it. But I think a lot of people are sleeping on their football team,

and I think they're ready to shock the FCS world this year. Yeah, let alone UT Martin. Yeah, I'm right. You know what they're about to do this year? Run it. Bingo. Everybody's saying to Indiana goes 16 and O, and that's like, the biggest story maybe in the history of college ball because nobody was supposed to be

undefeated at this stage, especially with conference realignment and playoffs and how many games there are. And UT Martin just said, well, why not us? And they might, I mean, I honestly, they might win 30 straight games. Take them to like out. Take UT Martin tonight. That's the first one of the year. That's one of the hammer. That's the one of the hammer. Yep, Cowboys. Obviously UT Martin taken on the UCA Bears. And we just talked about the Bears. The Bears got a big roar. You know, they got a big, ah, when they were. want to. But you see Martin, I mean, the owls, they go,

hoo, hoo, hoo, hoo, and the bear's like, roar, roar. And the owls are pretty vicious. Owls are pretty vicious. Alves. They killed a guy. Yeah. And they wake up. A girl went down the stairs. Yeah. Killed. Ailes came and flapped early and killed a girl, right? No, that's what happened.

We all watched it. That's what happened. Yeah, we talked to the lawyer who was defending. Shout out. Right. David Rudolph. The guy. He was very clear. The owl came and did it. Okay? So I understand that that's their take, and I think old buddy's still

in a public pool now, right? And at the end of that documentary, I think he was at a public pool. Swimming? The guy who lost his wife. He was in jail and then he got out. Yeah, something like that. I don't know how he's, yeah, we need... Not unless, don't mess with the owls. We need to... But if you're going to hoot with the owls, you've got to be

sore with the Eagles. And that brings us to North Dakota, the Sioux. They're going to fly high tonight. Yeah. I think you need to look for the North Dakota Eagle Sue to go crazy Are you sure?

Was that? I mean, they're 10th in the country. That's a strong program. Yeah. You know what? From this list of teams here that starts their journey tonight, I'm picking

UT Martin to be national champions this year. Wow. Okay. Yep. UT Martin is who I'm talking to. Montana. And then obviously you got a little and don't sleep,

Don't sleep on the cats now or the Grizzlies for that matter when it comes to Montana. Well, especially with what they did with that rodeo team up there in Montana State. I heard this year they wrangled more cows than anybody in the history of rodeo. And none of them were hurt. Not one. Yeah, not one. That was one of my favorite moments. So you want me to tackle this thing?

You want me to take it down? What if I heard it? Oh, I'm sorry. Pat McAfee is going to. hurt a 5,000 pound. Are you E-Man? Okay. Yeah. You know what? Let us talk to it to make sure it's okay with you doing this to it.

It's like, okay, yeah, I guess I'm a little arrogant. I guess it's 100% on me. NFL preseason games tonight. We got Amazon Prime game coming tonight. Obviously, it's a preseason game. Let's go run through it a little bit. Herbie will be joining us here in a matter of moments as the Patriots take on the Browns on Prime.

Excited to hear where Herbie's thoughts are as they hit into another NFL season. Pittsburgh Steelers taking on a. Buffalo Beals. Niners taking on Fernando Mendoza and the Raiders. And then you got Stetson Bennett who's really turning some heads and potential trade bait maybe out of, uh, nope, that's not, yep, uh, Los Angeles Rams taking on chargers who have Justin Herbert, who will be obviously getting a couple series this evening. And then we have some massive news out of the NFL. The Seattle Seahawks paying spree continues. AJ, have you seen what Schneider's been up to over there? Obviously it's all on hard knocks. So we're getting a chance to kind of see behind the scenes of all

these deals take place. Shout to Schneider, shout out to Hard Knocks. Leonard Williams, three-year, $90 million extension for an absolute pillar and muller of a Seattle Seahawks defense that is obviously looking to only improve somehow under defensive-minded head coach McDonald's third year as the Seattle Seahawks head coach after already winning a Super Bowl. They paid everybody over there. They love their team. They move on from a Super Bowl MVP. They still have Donald on a pretty good deal, but it's clear that Schneider knows what he wants his team to look like for the next five to 10 years. Do you like it, hate it? How do you feel about it all, AJ? With them certainly going to have to do some salary cap gymnastics going

forward with this many big deals in tow. Yeah, I actually, I love this move. I mean, Leonard Williams, he's a guy too where, yeah, his stats, everything he does is amazing, but you can't measure a lot of the stuff that he brings to the team. Like, just sheer intimidation, sheer presence and culture builder, a guy that like, you know what the standard is. And Leonard Williams is not going to let that slip. But John Snyder on that standing desk walking treadmill situation, we know he's been doing this for every one of these deals. He's probably been walking miles and miles every time.

Like he's Debo and walking to Mordor or wherever he's going in his whole journey right now. But I feel like, are you surprised, I guess, as a 32-year-old, they're saying he's still in his prime, which I believe if you turn on the tape, he definitely is. To get a three-year deal as a 32-year-old, that's a three-year-old. you don't see that happen every day. I mean, Joey Porter Jr. right now is trying to get, what, 30 million a year or so is Gonzo. Yeah. Right.

And they are in the early stages of getting into their prime. So him being a 32-year-old getting $30 million a year in an extension, I think tells you what the Seattle Seahawks want to do. I think it tells you exactly how they feel about him. But I think it's a massive compliment not only the way he plays, but the way he is as a Seattle Seahawk and what they want their team to be going forward culture was. one of the highlights I saw there was him tackling Jaden Daniels. Hey, they're saying they're terrible. What's going on over there? They're saying

the Washington commanders might be worst football team in league. I'm like, yeah, right. We got a lot of other teams that are going to be trying to do that. And they're like, worse. Isn't that what reports are coming out of practice? Yeah, there was someone who tweeted, one of their reporters tweeted like that the O line was just horrendous yesterday. And then he later tweeted in the day that three of the starters were not practicing yesterday for the O line. And then I went to the commander's social media. page today and it was just their wide receivers

cooking Ravens starting corner. So I'm not sure what the... Everything's okay. I don't know if everything's okay. I don't. They signed the left tackle. Humphreys? Yeah, from the Cardinals. They did because obviously they lost Tunsell, who is the highest paid left tackle in the league currently.

Inoperable, offensive line, she says. One of the tweets. Nicky Jabala? Yeah. Inoperable, meaning like we just, nothing's working at all. Yeah, I think. Yeah, but they're arresting three, though, is what tone just said. So, you know, context clues certainly matter. But I think after you fire an entire coaching staff, like an entire staff, offense gone,

defense gone, I don't know, everything new. It's like it might take some time to get things going. I don't want to give up on Jayton Daniels and the commanders strictly because I think the reason why people want to give up on them is because the whole number five thing down at LSU. I think that's right. I think people are going to be part of it. Yeah. And Jane Daniels is kind of like we all hate LSU now.

Yeah. Am I the bad guy? You sure? So a pretty funny tweet about that. Okay, okay. Maybe we take back what we were saying about my mom. Okay, a lot of things are being said about his mom. I love that Jeff Landry just came out and said,

hey, Guy, Plier, you got to hide the guy. So, you know, like, Jeff Landry's all the way behind what's going on. And then there was a correction of a story by the authority, Pete Thammel. Jeff Landry said, well, this all things ridiculous. And then he brings up the other injunctions as well. It seems like everybody's on the same page down there, same script. We expected, which is why it was such an alarming thing to see Pete.

They would say there was a 16-0 vote. It's like, so somebody at LSU voted against LSU, and that's what's being reported, came out, they abstained from voting. It was 15-0-LSU said, we're not voting. That's soft. 15-1, though, has happened in the past for a couple different things. The 15-side always wins. We still don't know what's going to happen in this particular case,

because if there is another school involved in this type of thing, which I don't want to just say like, just like I have been saying. But if it's just LSU that is benefiting from this, I think this is signed, sealed, delivered, LSU will get punished. I think that guys won't play. If these guys end up on multiple schools and multiple teams, which, right, there's rumblings right now in town,

and there are more rumblings about potentially other teams snooping around as well? There is, I mean, this thing has so many legs and webs right now. that I have no idea on who, what is true and what is not. But yes, there is some more rumblings on that. Yeah, there's rumblings that other schools that are at the top are potentially having conversations with some of these guys who are ineligible through this junction, like somebody that went to an infeld team and it came back. If it's any other schools, and once again, this might be LSU drumming up

that other schools are doing this too. We have no idea what's real and what's not real at this point. But by the time this comes, which is what they said, there's a seven-day window in which they're able to join. So we should know seven days after August 30th, I guess what's going to happen. We should know if there's multiple schools that do this, let's say the Ohio State Buckeyes get a guy. Not saying they are, but let's just say the Ohio State Buckeyes get a guy.

Let's say Texas Tech gets a guy. They just signed Thomas Castellanos, potential wide receiver, maybe backup quarterback for them down there. Literally just happened yesterday, Texas Tech. Let's say Texas Tech gets one of these guys. Let's say any of these schools who haven't come out publicly and said we're not doing it, get a guy. Then I wonder what happens because that's a lot of lawsuits, AJ. That's a lot of lawsuits towards conferences and stuff.

I guess we just have no information at this point and we can kick the tires on this story all the way until the seven-day portal window closes for these guys who have the injunction to go, basically, right? AJ, that's where we're at right now. Yeah, it definitely feels like it. Right now, I don't see how any of the guys come back and play. You think they're actually going to play this year?

No, I think if it only goes to, if the guys only go to LSU, I think they won't play. Yeah, then it's easy to kind of shut them down. Yeah. I think it won't play. If it's multiple schools that sign these guys and it's multiple different lawsuits from different angles.

I think then it gets... Can you see other schools jumping in now and really hard recruiting some of these guys? Is it worth it? I don't know. I guess it just takes a coach in an AD that don't care about what the possible backlash could be.

But they know exactly what the possible backlash could be because all the conferences have said, hey, they don't care. Well, right, but so you think of coaches, and again, who knows, you could get sued and who knows where that will be. Players better be pretty damn good. That's what I'm saying.

Is it worth it worth it? You're missing half the season if you're a head coach. You're immediately getting suspended. I don't know how to play. I don't know how it works. Yeah, but can you suspend him? He can sue you for suspending them. That's not.

Exactly. So it's like, I guess it really is going to take someone who, if they think one of these guys can really help to just call the conferences bluff and just be like, you're not going to do that. Or if you do, guess what? We're just going to, we're just going to sue you to the Stone Age. And, you know, we'll address this in the off season after we've already played with this guy. How does that hold up in court, though? Like for the commissioners, it's like, hey, I made a rule. They're breaking the rule, so they're suspended.

Like, what is the argument in there? Yeah, but the commissioner can't make the rule that breaks state law. Yeah. State law, pal, Donnie Baker would say. That's kind of what is taking place right now. It's like, well, state law trumps any NCAA rule. Okay, laws supersede NCAA. So the NCAA, cute, or commissioner, cute, you're doing what you're doing.

Law supersede you. Joining us is a man who might have the answer. And we as a show that are certainly a massive piece of this conversation, because this is a massive piece of the conversation heading in the college football season, are sick of talking about it. People need to know that we are sick of talking about it, but it is a huge topic heading into what's going to be the biggest and best season yet for college football and the NFL.

So until it stops, we obviously have to at least say that it's still happening. Joining us now is a guy who's certainly pumped. that this is even anywhere near a combo that's happening at this stage of the football season. Just a few days out from college football game day, obviously traveling down to Baton Rouge, primetime Saturday, Amazon Prime Thursday night games start tonight for this man as he's in town for the Patriots and Browns. Joining us alongside Peter, hopefully, who I saw hit the road, and Skinny Dee, ladies and gentlemen, from Prime and ESPN, legend. Former President of Ohio, going to have to get his take on what's going on and say.

some Ohio trailer parks. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstry. All right, boys. Oh, yeah. It's time to talk about the ball going in the air. Not all these shenanigans. Just enough of that.

Damn. No. This move past it. I know we got to hit it. Shenanigans right now. We're not, we'll talk about you being president of Ohio and having to speak for your state.

We'll save that for the later because the state of Ohio is being talked about a lot over the last couple of days. And nobody's saying that the Niners are moving to Ohio. So everybody's saying there's kind of going there and do stuff that Ohio has. You can talk about that later. The LSU thing, I hate

that we're still talking about it, but it does feel like it's a massive deal because this could be the first time commissioners and conferences. I guess SORSbee at the Big 12, it kind of happened as well. But maybe the commissioners and the conferences are the ones that need to put the guard rails in. It need to be the ones policing this entire thing. And maybe they're empowered

to do so here, Kirk. How do you kind of view it as, honestly, this is not the full combo that we should be having, but it's certainly a combo for the future of college sports, I think, sitting right in front of us. Yeah, I thought Greg Sanky, the SEC, Tony Petiti, the Big Ten, tried to address it. You guys just touched on that with their announcements that basically they're forbidding this and allowing this to happen. But like we've seen over the last two or three years, anytime a player doesn't get the

answer that he wants, his agent or his attorney is going to go and there's going to be litigation. And then you wonder, can they just, like I think Ty mentioned it, can they just get through, play the season and deal with litigation after the season. I don't know enough about it. I watch your show. I listen to Pete and listen to, you know, what's the latest. It seems like this changes all the time. Whatever having to common sense, you know, just common sense.

You know, if you go to an NFL camp and you sign a contract and then you get released, you're done. Your career's over. You know, go to the Arena League, go to the UF. but you're not going back to college football. I mean, that's common sense. So hopefully nothing against this young man who's trying to leave. He was here at Cleveland and is now trying to go to Bat Rouge.

Nothing against him. But I just don't know how anybody in their right mind can think that this is a good thing. I get the five for five going back to the class of 22. I understand that. But not if you go to an NFL camp. I just don't know how you go to an NFL camp, wear an NFL uniform, and then let's go back and play in a college team that's going to pay me probably more money than I would have made if I stuck with the NFL. So hopefully common sense will prevail regardless of litigation, regardless of these ridiculous district judges to keep making rulings that somehow are impacting our lives.

Like why are they even the – why are they involved in college athletics? Get the hell out of here. Leave us alone. They have nothing to do with college football, and yet they make a ruling, and we have to listen to them. It makes absolutely no sense at all. I don't think it's just sports that local judges are making big-time rulings where everybody has to all of a sudden abide by them, but that's bigger than our show and our brains can comprehend.

You're telling me you don't think Honorable Ron Johnson, Donner, Baton Rouge had the best interest for all of college sports in mind when he made this injunction about the people. my final thought here, okay, final thought as we move along in Herbie, loud and clear we heard what you said. Loud and clear, we heard what you said. If it's just LSU doing it, I think it's easy to take care of. If it's more schools that end up with these guys, because it's not just Dekwan,

there's what dozens of others allegedly is the way it was being framed. If any other school ends up doing it other than LSU, I think it would be a much louder problem. If it's just LSU, I think it does get handled. Let's move to LSU. Obviously, tonight, FCS football starts. Youngstown State's got a big one. North Dakota's got a big one.

U.T. Martin, they might go undefeated. UCA, the Bears, out of Central Arkansas, they're roaring tonight on ESPN Plus. College football, now week zero, just a couple of days away. Bill Belichick's already arrived in Dublin. He's walking down escalators in the same airport that we arrived at.

We are right on the precipice here. You almost got in the fight in Dublin? Yeah, in a hotel, yeah. That Florida State fan? that Florida State man, he got me in the lobby, and then he said something to you, and you about knocked him out, didn't you? You know, well, there was just, this guy, yeah, he was very loud.

He was saying a lot of very, a lot of very rude things to our faith. He was talking as if he was the internet, and it's like, hey, bro, you're right here. Not the internet. Like, we, if you really believe that, like, let's do this. And I did a classic, you know, like he said a bunch of things. I go up interact with him. I ask him a couple questions before he gives an answer.

I say, shut the fuck up. Nobody cares. Right. Part of his family and friends. Okay, so he gets embarrassed. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Yeah.

Nobody cares. He gave him that one. Just shut up. Just shut up, you know. So we're walking outside. But for you to go there tells you how rude he was. And it was like not one or two. It was just like, when was this avalanche?

Like, this was when everybody hated Herbie from Florida. State, remember? So this was... It was a lot. I walk into Dublin, Ireland, into the hotel, and the whole time I'm thinking, great, we're doing Florida State, Georgia Tech. I walk in, maybe no one will see me go... We're in

Dublin. Maybe there's no Florida State fans here. First person I see, Hey, Herb Street, we were just talking about you. You're a real asshole. I was like, oh, we're out of the gate. Here we go. Yeah, but then there was a follow-up. And then there was a follow-up to Herbie. And then to me he was like, I heard you weren't going to do game game.

I heard you kicked off the show or whatever. And I was like, no, I guess not. He goes, man, that would be great for everybody if that was the case. I like, look at him. I like laugh. You know, I like laugh. And then he follows up with asshole. He follows up like, like, like, and I'm like, oh, I'm fighting this guy right now.

This is awesome. I mean, I didn't know that I was going to run into Bona Garage 67 on X in real life in Dublin here. And after the night I just had, I think they would let me out of jail from my understanding of what, like my relationship with Dublin at that time. like it was an interesting time, but on that point, college football is the greatest because of the passion. Okay, I think they are our European soccer fans.

The pageantry, I think everybody's scared that we're going to lose it because of all this shenanigans that's around. I don't think we ever will on that note, heading into the season. I do think this is going to be the biggest and best college football season that we've had because I think the talent is better than it's ever been. I think the sport is better than it's ever been. I think the exposure in the media rights with where the games are and when they're being watched is bigger and better than ever. I'm just really excited for the actual football to start, Herbie.

For you, how do you feel about AP top 25 poll? How do you feel about where we sit just eight days away from Baton Rouge being a part of our lives and kicking off this real thing as we go forward to the national chain? I can't wait. I mean, you're showing those FCS games. We got games this weekend. And then obviously it's go time. On Monday, we do our first college game day call to get ready for our first college game day call to get ready for our first. first college game day down at Death Valley with Clemson and LSU.

Finally, all the talk is subsided. One thing I've learned with these off-seasons and all of these different stories that always come out, and I'm like you, is it going to hurt the game? And then you go out there and it's still Death Valley. It's still a night game. It's still packed. There's still a student section. The marching bands come out.

The teams run out. And it's like everybody forgets about all of it. and you just embrace the passion and the pageantry and the traditions of college football. So I don't think this year will be any different. In fact, I think it could be better. There's more big names and quarterbacks, more big names at every position. They're coming back this year than I can remember in a long, long time. And the cool thing is about this NIL and the portal is everybody's in the mix.

I mean, you're showing right there a bunch of teams. So what is that? 15, 16 teams that have a shot to make a run. You know, whether you're going through the SEC, going through the Big 10, the Big 12 ACC, the group of six, whoever it is, everyone feels like they can throw their hat in the ring. And five years ago, and any time before that, if people were asking us and putting odds up, it would have been Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, and Clemson, and everybody else.

And now we've got everybody thinking that they've got a shot. And I think that's one of the cool things that we've gotten out of this. Instead of Ohio State and Alabama and Georgia stacking all these five stars, those guys are other places now. I mean, that's why we saw Indiana make a run. That's why we've seen Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, all these teams. I think it's given them life. We've seen a lot of big-time hires within these power conferences. And I think it creates a lot of anticipation and excitement for the masses as opposed to just, you know, four or five or six teams that think they always got a shot to win at all. Yeah, I think the talent dispersion. Is that the word?

That works. Whoa. Whoa, bring talent. Whoa. Brother. Yeah, thank you, Plum High School as well. So the talent dispersion, I believe, because all you need is one or two NIO people. You get a really good player. Like, you can get a really good player to a couple different positions,

and you can field a team that might be able to steal some big wins down the road. And then obviously you do still have the heavyweights who have all the cash, and we know they're going to be in it. The second best odds there after the top two are tied. Texas Longhorns. Now, it's been interesting to kind of learn about them. Ty has a question about Texas and what's going on in Austin, where college game day is week two when Ohio State comes to town.

Yeah, Herbie, last time we had you on, I think we talked about how, you know, people were kind of crapping on Arch early on, but that, you know, you liked them. They're still a very trendy pick to win it all. And then I think it was last week, you know, a junior linebacker gets dismissed from the team. And then a freshman player's dad takes to X and basically says, like, hey, like this is bullshit. This is all politics. I'm going to expose everything that's going on there. And then we see the issue, you know, again, it's.

hearsay it's just clips on Twitter, but we see Arch and the offense are struggling. Like, how much cause of concern do you think there is for Texas right now with the expectations being so high and considering that like they need they need to be good right out of the gates because they have Ohio State coming in so soon? Well, Ty, I think that until they prove that they can handle dealing with that big bullseye, it's fair to see and question that until they go out there and play these games. I think the player getting kicked off. I haven't talked to Sark yet.

We will when we get ready for that Ohio State game. The player getting kicked off apparent, you know, I think those are potential distractions on the outside for the fans and for the media. But I think internally, I'm sure it's just business as usual. I don't know how much stock to put in whatever, you know, hookum.com or whatever's saying about, you know, the offense isn't looking good. I got a lot of confidence in Sark. I got a lot of confidence in what this offense can do. I think Arch, Ty, we talked about this. I think what he went through last year with the almost unrealistic expectations

and living through it, not just going through it and just not having a great year. Those last eight or nine games, he played really good football. So I think dealing with all that, I think allows him to come in and now has experience of dealing with that kind of pressure. So I'm not picking them to win at all. I can't wait to hear what you guys have. I've got Notre Dame playing Indiana in the national championship. How crazy would that be in your state?

if that happens. I got Notre Dame winning it all over Indiana in a national championship. I got Ohio State and Georgia both getting into the playoff in the final four, but I got Notre Dame in Indiana advancing. Have you guys put your 12-team bracket or do you have you going to put one out before we get going? Nope, we're not doing that. But you and Reese both have the Notre Dame fighting Irish winning the national championship. Now, obviously they're tied for the best odds in the country. They've got three games. They got three games. And they don't have a conference championship game.

I mean, they're going to walk at least into the playoffs. And that guy right there is going to win the Heisman Trophy. So I'm all in on Notre Dame this year. I think this is the year that they've recruited well. They've got some experience at receiver. There's Leonard Moore. I mean, this is a very talented team. And I think they got a bit of a chip on their shoulder from what happened to them a year ago.

So I think it's a real deal. But, like, you look at that schedule. I can't really see it from here. But I think it's what, Miami, SMU. who else we got at bYU at bYU at b yu yeah b yu's a big one at north carolina and navy navy's a little bit of a tricky game yeah about rice you don't know what rice is going to pull out there you know that's a whole other one let alone syracuse at the end there franz doing his things still up there they're going to be pumping out tv people until they go out of business but yeah we understand

what you're saying about the schedule merchants i think that's always about nondame's story especially with how last year started at the beginning versus how they ended. That's the benefit of being an independent, but also I assume it's not easy for people to want to schedule Notre Dame right now either with all the NIL backing and everything they kind of have happening up there. Freeman's got them buzzing. You talk about easy schedule, though. Let's head up to the Big Ten, shall we? AJ has a team he'd like to ask about that nobody's really talking about.

Yeah, Kirk, I think Penn State's kind of flying under the radar right now. They bring in Matt Campbell as the new head coach, and people say they have a very favorable schedule for them. I guess what are your expectations for this Penn State team? What is kind of the ceiling for these guys? I think they go 10 and 2. I think they're a playoff team. I think that the schedule

favors them. They don't play Ohio State, Indiana, or Oregon. Crazy. How does that happen? Just luck. It's just lucky, right? It's got lucky this year they don't. I mean, how about that for timing for Matt Campbell? Yeah. I mean, there's a couple games there that are on the road that are going to be tough for them.

but I could see this team get into 10 wins. And if they do, I think they get over the hump and into the playoffs. So I think I've told you guys how I feel about Matt Campbell. I don't know if Penn State could have handpicked a better fit for their culture and what they're about, their history and tradition and what they want to get back to. I thought James Franklin did a good job. But obviously those games against Ohio State and Michigan, they just couldn't quite get there. Even though just a couple years ago they were in the semifinals.

but their fan base, I think, eventually turned, and it was time for a change. And James Franklin's going to do great things. I'd like to thank Virginia Tech, get the Hokie Nation back. And I think Matt Campbell is going to do outstanding. You know, it's kind of like what Indiana did, brought a lot of guys over from Ames, so they know the culture,

they know kind of what the expectations are. They can do a really good job of teaching some experience that's coming back, especially in the defensive side of the ball. But I think Penn State, I think the Big Ten, again, once again, year is really, really deep. Not just Ohio State, Oregon, and Indiana, but you go through the entire Big Ten. S.C., I think, is coming. I think Lincoln Riley has got a quarterback. They got better skill, even though they lose some receivers to the NFL. I still think they've got some

great skill. They've recruited well. Michigan's kind of a wild card with Bryce Underwood. Don't really know with Kyle Whittingham what to expect. They could be a 10-win team. They could be a 7- or eight win team. It just depends really on Bryce and how he, how he kind of adjust to this new scheme and how are they going to be able to take advantage of not just his arm, but his legs, because that's really who Utah has been when they really were humming. They had a quarterback who's more of a dual threat guy, so are they going to turn him loose? But look at this, Penn State, Washington, Iowa, I think Iowa was another eight, nine win team. Wisconsin and Nebraska should be better. Illinois. I mean, look at the depth of that conference. It's scary.

certainly is and Nick Saban is kind of acknowledging it, you know, he's starting to kind of acknowledge he's being forced to. The entire South is kind of being forced to acknowledge it. Now, I think it's just factual. It's just real. You just go by what's happening and the big thing. Yeah, but you guys

on, yeah, but you guys on SECSPN, you mostly, Kirk Herb Street, mostly. Kirk HerbstrecyC SPN, I think is what they were they're actually calling you. It is I think it is interesting, though, because for a very, very long time, you just rattled through the names of the four that it was.

It was like Ohio State represented the North. And then you had the big three. Georgia Clemson. Yeah. Yeah. Whoever it was. There's a rotating extra one normally, but it was like Saban's going to be there. George is going to be there.

That boy's going to be there. Now they all come from the same coaching tree, obviously, but they're all going to be there. Now it's like it does feel like all the big 10 teams could potentially be there. And I think that's good for the sport. but we're talking about the dispersion of talent. The SEC needs one bad, I think. That's why Sanky coming out and kind of getting into it with Lane, because he would love to see LSU win a national championship.

I think the SEC would like to see that. So Sanky coming out and being like, we're going to do it the right way, though. I like that out of Greg Sanky. Who knows what the power he is? But with the South, as a whole tone, has the last question about college ball for you. Yeah, I do, Kirk.

It feels like everyone believes in Georgia, in Texas and the SEC. and then I have like a group of six teams where they all have questions, but three of them are probably going to make the playoff. Two to three of them are going to make the playoff in A&M, Ole Miss, Oklahoma, LSU, Bama and Tennessee, those last two starting five-star freshmen. Out of that group outside of Georgia and Texas, who do you think, who do you like the most to potentially make the playoff

of those teams that have question marks at this point? If Oklahoma can go to Ann Arbor in week two and win that game, I like the Sooners to be a team with Mathew. and the defense that Venables always has, but can they win that game on the road early? And then Ole Miss. I think Ole Miss and A&M. I like Chamblis and I like Marcel Reed. I think both of those teams have a legitimate shot.

I think people, the only time people talk about Ole Miss on a national level is when they talk about Lane Kiffin and Ole. It's like, let's just move past that. Let's look at them and their roster and who they have. Now, Charlie Weiss Jr., when they were rolling, last year with Chambliss. He had a lot to do with when Lane left, that offense in the playoff. They were lethal. Now he's, now he's in Baton Rouge. So how are they going to do offensively? We know what kind of player, Chambleus is, and we know what kind of players they have

around that position led by Lacey, the running back. But how are they going to do when it comes to that offense and the play calling? That is such a up-tempo offense, and it takes the right kind of guy to be able to pull the trigger to really do it justice. And so, we'll have to wait and see. You know, let's watch them play a few games. But, you know, I think we all love Chambliss. I think this kid could be, again, a guy that gets to New York City at the end of the year. If any indication at all of what he did in the postseason last year,

are all of us kind of like, man, I want to see this guy play again. I cannot wait. I was happy to see that he got that extra year. And now we can't wait to see if these guys can get off to a fast start. Oh, you like that he got the injunction there? because Governor Jeff Landry said, that's kind of fascinating. You like, we like this, but we don't like that.

Okay, okay. Okay, we kind of pick. Well, he didn't put on an NFL uniform, Gov. Well, you hate to play, you hate to game. You know, we got kind of coming for a week one. We got Browns, you know, playing this too. So I think the fact that the governor, Jeff Landry, is behind it down there as well,

we know this is going to be a tough fight for Sankey and whoever is trying to get in there. Because if this man wants a tago, on the field, guess what? A tiger is going to on field. Even if we need a fake tiger to kind of distract people that think that that's going to be the tiger.

Stop that tiger from getting the stadium. Definitely, yeah. We'll send in a fake tiger for them to rally and protest against and then we'll slip, boom, tiger in the back door. And then all of a sudden we got Big Roar on the sideline. Which I think is a huge part of the family

experience. You go down there, you see Big Mike Roar, that's part of the game. So I think if Governor Jeff Landry is, Governor Jeff Landry and Lane Kiffiner on the same side, I don't think this shit's going to go easy. I don't think this is going to be an easy fight for anybody, but to follow up to your point,

everybody was excited to Trinidad got another year, I think. Like everybody, like we were excited for him. We were pumped for him. Like, Ole Miss obviously super pumped. And then now it's like, well, that injunction's okay. He can play six years. Oh, what about the guy who's playing nine years at UNLV? leaving the dance. Those guys are okay, but yeah, we get it. This guy,

he played a pretty season again for Cleveland Browns. Okay. All right, we got. It's going to be loud. I don't love it. But back to your Trinidad point, I thought he was the best quarterback in the league in the entire country last year when we watch him live. Granted Fernando, definitely better than him. But you understand what's saying here. I thought Trinidad, like this year could be the best quarterback. Oh, look at him. Go, man. All of college football. He's unbelievable, man. He can win games by himself. If that week three game down in Oxford is a Trinidad Chambliss showcase, which it certainly could be, I'd love to see the Ole Miss folks back in the national contention

and conversation. But until then, it's all going to rally around a big ten. Okay, let's pivot to the NFL. Dude, how do you go to Ferris State and then become that guy? Incarnate Word. Nothing against Ferris State. That's a good program now. Great program. I know it is. I know it is. Incarnate Word had Cam Ward. Yeah. Remember that? Yeah.

It's very interesting the paths that end up happening to some of these guys that make it. And I think those paths are what like less needs looking for. He said, I want to see a guy who goes and transfers up. He's been through a story. It's like almost a part of the development of this entire thing. But a lot of good players have been able to utilize that. I don't know if you go to the NFL and you get to do it. But there's been in something happened in Texas, I guess today.

A Texas judge just ruled on some for a judge. All right. What do we got here? What's this judge got for us? A G-League player did something, and then the Texas judge added something, and it basically said, Greg Sanky's going to have to go ahead and figure out legally how he can tell us what we can't do. So that's pretty much what's being said. So once again, it's getting louder and louder and louder and louder. Once the games kick off, hopefully all this will stop.

Speaking, kicking off, Prime's fourth, fifth season. What year is this? Fifth year. Congratulations. Prime's fifth year kicks off tonight with a preseason game. Patriots Brow. Conman obviously has a question about that, and I assume a lot, he wants to know a lot about what do you know right now about his team and the team they're playing. Yeah, Herbie, let me just say I'm very much looking forward to having you back on my television again.

You are the best in the biz, so it's going to be very fun for both Prime and Saturday nights. That's going to be sick. But let's talk about the one tonight. Pats, I'm not going to ask you how the Pats and what your expectations are for the Patriots, because I'm pretty sure I already know you're going to take him to win the Super Bowl and Drake made it win the MVP and everything to be the greatest in New England once again. But what about the other side? Feels like the Browns are in this kind of turnover time,

not on the field, but also that too. Watson being their starting quarterback now, Munkin kind of latching his wagon to Dishon Watson. Have you been able to talk to Munkin? What's kind of your take on the whole Munkin era right now? I think we all kind of love him because he just seems to be a rubs and dirt on it type of guy. And then with Dishon, How do you think this is going to go?

It feels like the people of Ohio are pretty miserable no matter what, but they're very, very much not looking forward to watching Deshaun Watson. Well, until he gets some first downs on third down and scores touchdowns, you know how fans, that can turn pretty quickly. I think we were all shocked, you know, after the presser, after the Buffalo game, I think everybody, it was pretty unanimous, which is rare on the internet. Everybody was just expecting not only for Chador to be announced as the guy,

but Deshaun Watson to be released. And of course, they're not taking into consideration the cap. You know, if they release him, the cap that would hit on 27 is like $86 million for the 27 season alone. So, you know, and I'm not suggesting that's why he's getting the nod. I'm saying that's why he's definitely on the roster. I think at the end of the day, the 72 career starts, I think the experience, I think that's what gave him the nod. I think all of us kind of watched that presser. All of us watched the game against Buffett.

and thought, you know, Chador looks better. What are we waiting on? But talking a monk, man, he's, like he said publicly, you know, he's taking the OTAs, all the practices that we never see, all the command of the offense, the operation, the huddle, just on the road those first two games. I think all of that plays into why they gave Deshaun Watson the nod. And the other thing you've got to remember, they're breaking in five new starters on this offensive line.

I mean, and a new system. I'm excited about Denzel. Justin, Casey Concepcion, the tight-in fanning, Junkin's coming back for his second year. I mean, there's a ton of young skill on this team. Whoever plays quarterback, just get the ball out on time and punt. Like, don't turn the ball over. Like, if they can just do that with the defense that they're going to have,

they're going to be competitive in most games that they play. But going back to your question, I really think that, first of all, Todd Monkin, how about his stones, like staring the camera right in the eye and saying, I don't really care what anybody thinks outside of this building. I mean, to be the first year head coach, all of that avalanche of noise of like get rid of Deshaun Watson. And not only is he not get rid of him, less than 48 hours, he stands there and says, I don't give a shit what all you think.

Deshaun Watson's starting. So whether you agree with it or disagree with it, I was impressed with a first time head coach who's over 60 years old stating that and saying it almost matter of fact, like why are you questioning this is what we think. And so we'll find out. I mean, they start really tough. You know, they're on the road for the first couple games. And then they come back home. And then they got Pittsburgh on a Thursday night. So it's not an ideal start for them with a new head coach. But like I said, if the offensive line can come together with five new starters, Concepcion, Boston, Juncans, Fanon, Judy, there's a lot to work with there on that offense.

And if they can just not turn it over, even without Jim Schwartz, I think this is still going to be a great defense. And so I'm a guy that's always optimistic, you know, in camp when teams are breaking. And we'll see if it'll work out. Deshaun Watson hasn't played winning football since he's been in Cleveland. He hasn't played in 22 months after that second Achilles injury. So there's a lot to question. But let's see how it goes. And this isn't etched in stone.

If they're O and two and they're struggling, there's a pretty good chance. I wouldn't be shocked to see Shador Sanders get an opportunity at some point. Yeah, we'll see how Deshaun does. People are saying that Munkin, though, needs to not be seen chewing on his tongue. Because they're saying he's starting to look like Coach Dave a little bit from Diner in Houston. You remember what Coach Dave looked like down there? He had no power down in Houston. Do you remember Coach Dave Collie?

Coach Dave Collie. He was a head coach for the Houston Texans for like, what, eight months? maybe, I don't know what it was. It was everything that went down there was just bad. And the only thing I remember from is that he chewed on his tongue very, very hard. Like he was chewing a shit out of it. It was some beef jerky. Like it was smoked beef jerky that Tim got from a dead venison that he got up in northern India,

which is right over there. Okay, there's some available in the Thunderdum right now. Todd Monkid, I'm a huge fan of this. You too. I think we all hate that his first head coaching job is with the Browns. You know, because as an old coach told me, I think it was Coach Chud Tudzynski, I said, hey, we're playing Cleveland. We're going to beat their ass for you, you know, for you, man.

He goes, don't do that. Yeah, I don't care. I'm okay. And we go, like, what's that? He goes, you're not really a coach in the NFL until you get fired from Cleveland. And that is really how, like, you're kind of viewed in there. It is a turn style. The quarterback position, obviously, a turn style.

The head coaching thing, a turn style. Andrew Barry's been given some grace, which we appreciate because we love and know Andrew Barry from them. But, man, just what a. terrible way to start your head coach at career, especially if it doesn't go well. Now, if Deshaun goes out there and balls out, he's going to look like a genius. I mean, he is, and we all believe he can be great, right? We all believe Tom Monkin can do great things he has in the past everywhere he's been.

It's like if Deshawn plays a football. Yeah, I'm with you, really. Pat, I mean, he's a quarterback-friendly offense. Like we mentioned, abundant, it's young, but a lot of explosive playmakers now on this roster. They haven't had that in a long time. So they haven't had an X like Denzel Boston at 6-4-215. It was the last time they put a guy into the boundary if they went three-by-one and just try to create a one-on-one matchup. They had a guy that could win.

It's been in forever that they've had a guy like that. So we'll see. He's a young guy. Casey Concepcion, I think if they get him the ball, he could be in the mix for the AFC offensive rookie of the year. So I don't know. There's pieces there to work with. And more importantly, just, just. Throw it away on third down.

Just don't force the ball. Don't try to play hero. Don't just play smart. And if you got to punt, you punt and rely on that defense. They've not been able to do that in a long time. Okay, so it's you and now tonight, and we got the entire kickoff squad. They're getting out there for the first time since. Two of them.

Fancy and the Bigfellow, Witt. And Carissa. Where's Sherman Angelo and. They, they don't, they, last year, last year it was just one, I think it was just one, I think it was just wet, I think, I can't remember, but yeah, they, they've got two. Dross, Dross, Dross, you get to hang out with Bezos at all? Never met. Oh, what? What?

No. No. I thought you guys had a big dinner. They had a big, welcome dinner or something. Did you get free? We had a nice, we had a lovely dinner for Al and his wife, Linda. They celebrated their 60th. Wedding anniversary.

Oh, smokes, congrats. How about that? How about that? How's Al feeling? Okay, that's a good question. You celebrated 60 years of marriage. He's been on air for 150 years of that. So how does he feel?

And obviously, what are your expectations for the season as you head into your prime? Awesome. Yeah. Awesome. He looks great. You know, he's as sharp as ever. You know, honestly, you talk with him. We zoom with you probably almost every time we head over to the stadium on Thursday.

days and he's always yelling at you about stuff and I mean he's he he runs the room he runs the room it's unbelievable legend he's very dialed in he knows what we are talking about what we're not talking about on a weekly basis and I do he's a huge fan of your show like he's all over your show he does get pissed whenever we talk about you like hey why are you I'll get a why are you guys because he doesn't love how everybody on TV talks about football you know he does the people he does not like at all. And we have certainly learned that. And then he will threaten me that I'm starting to look like these people.

You know, whatever things happen. I'm like, come on now. We're on every single day. You're going to have to talk about that. I love. Al Michaels is obviously like sports icon. But with how much he is done and how much he has accomplished, it is very easy, low-hanging fruit for people.

Like tonight, a preseason game, Cleveland, New England. The people are going to, if he does not have enough juice, for a fourth string touchdown tonight in the fourth quarter, people are going to immediately say he lost. He knows that, though, I think, right? I think he knows that that is what it is. And when you get to this point, you're the greatest of all time, like inevitably, that is going to be a conversation that's going to happen

if you're doing your job at the level in which you're still doing it. I think he knows that, though, right? Don't you think? He knows it, but he doesn't give a shit about any of it. He doesn't care. He doesn't care. And I can tell you, I mean, I've worked with him. This will be the fifth year.

I hear some of that stuff and I'm just like, I think what's happened is there's so many of these guys that do play-by-play that are trying to get a clip for social media. It'll be the first quarter and they're calling it like it's a touchdown to win the game because they're trying to get that clip. And Al will never do that. Al will crank it when it deserves it. And otherwise, he's not going to kind of play that game. So he's going to do what he's done his whole career. And if he's not the best to ever do it, he's right there. So he's definitely on the Mount Rushmore.

I think people would say, I think the other people who we would consider the best would say our Michaels is the best. And I'll tell you what, I do believe in miracles that he's still doing it, honestly, because I'm what, 39? Okay. Oh, no. Someone just attacked his. You're 39.

You're 39. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the Wi-Fi isn't even working here. My brain isn't going to work past 45. Everybody's like, why are you doing all these jobs? It's like, who goes? You only got 40 more years to go, 41 more years to go to catch you. Yeah, never.

See, that's what I'm talking about. Never in a million years where that happened. Look about that. Why are you doing all these jobs? It's like, this thing could stop at any moment. We are literally dancing with it every day. So the fact that he's still doing it at the level in which he's doing it is fantastic. And we love out.

Miracle. Miracle. Oh, great for that. He still got it. Still got that sweatshirts. It's still fitting it to it, too. We appreciate it. AJ has the last question for you here, Herbie,

as we head into Primes opening night for the season. Kirk, I don't want to, you know, get you upset, but the Reds, I believe, had a huge comeback the other night. What are you, how's your, are you, are you turning around? Like, I think we still possibly are in the hunt. You're not. You never know. First of all, AJ, don't you dare say we.

I'm still on board. I still say we. Me and Sal and the boys. You're a piece of word. You're a piece of work. I'm going to ride away. Let me just tell you. Season's not over, Kirk.

Let me just tell you. Okay. Tell me. My whole life. My whole life, I grew up watching and listening to every Reds baseball game. I used to keep score of Reds baseball games. Like I am a die-heart Reds. baseball fan. And after 13 years of underachieving, I am I am always a fan, but I am so beyond

pissed off with a lack of competitive fire from the organization that it just, they've beaten it out of me. I'm still there, you know, but it's, look at the stands. I'm not the only one, bro. Look at all the red seats at the home games. It's just, it is what it is. You're talking about one of the when I was growing up, the Reds baseball was as proud as any professional organization there was in all sports, not just baseball. And they don't have that now. So hopefully they'll get it back one day. I'm still a fan.

I just get disgusted with them. Yeah. I like that. That was great. I like that. Good competitive fire. Good competitive fire here out of the boys with a big time comeback. They didn't give up.

Let the wood get hot, which we respect. I think what they need to do, and I'm trying to let the pirates, of this as well. They need to own a financial company and an insurance company, from my understanding. That is the tag team that you need to be very good in baseball, because then you just kind of why don't you buy the Reds for me?

I don't have an insurance company. I don't have a fun. No, but you got more money and you know what to do it. Buy the Reds. You can do it. Okay. How long has he been on TV? How long have you been on TV? Kirk? You buy the Reds. I'll buy a tiny little piece. You buy the big piece.

Hey, you're my big. I'm trying. Nobody's talking about that. Is anybody talking about this? It's your fault. I think people would want to figure, yeah, two fingers at you. Yeah, actually, you better open those up, knife thing. You got eight fingers going back. You've got eight fingers going back.

Maybe it is you. No, no, no, Pat, we're all counting on you. You either got to buy the pirates or the Reds. All right, well. Come on, AJ, get on it. Get the Reds. Get Bezos in a, too, Kirk. I need you to do really good stuff.

Don't do the Reds with Bezos. Yeah, right. That needs to go to pitch me. Oh, they'd be so good. We could defer all the payments down the road would be great. You don't have to defer with that guy. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Bezos could actually just pay those, like right down.

Oh, he should do it. It's a right-off. It'll be a right-off for it. With Peter, is Peter going to... Peter might be able to buy the pirates at some point because with all the commercials he's got. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Hey, hey, hey. Hey, he looks good. He's maturing. I can tell in his face, he's become a little bit more mature dog. Look at him. He's right. He just taking a nap. Hey, hey, hey, he knows.

He knows. Hey, I'll see you soon, brother. You look unbelievable. I might be bringing blue around. You two are going to have to fight for the deck. Bring blue. They can wrestle. That'd be fun.

All right. Now, no, blue from the streets, though. So I think he plays by a little different rules than maybe old Goldilock. They'll have a little bit of a thing. And then it will be over. And then they'll be boys. Okay. I think so.

I think that'll be the case. I think that'll be the case. Can't wait to see you on the road, brother. You too, man. See you guys. Ladies gentlemen, tonight on Prime. That man, Kirk Herb Street. Blue is from the streets, and it is evident.

Whenever he gets around, you know, Corgi, for instance. You know, Corgi cost a lot of money to buy. Okay, I learned that in real time, even if it was stuck in a store for a long time because nobody wanted to get him because he was way too fat. Usually those are discounted a bit. Yeah, no, yeah, right. Food bills are $1,000 a month now.

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Goodbye. Now I'm going to watch TV to see if we hit it, you know, because it's on right over here. I don't know if it's... I'm doing a little bit of this over here, boys. That wide shot with gum in the back is great. Oh, nice. Let's see if we hit it. Okay.

Thanks, you've got it full screen here on me, Foxy. Let's see if we hit this thing. It's a nice TV stand. That is a beautiful TV stand. Dude, it's fucking unbelievable this room. This is the nicest room. I think I've seen... I think it's the nice room I've ever seen.

So shout out to Faso finding this, and Caco, I believe, found this as well. Old Cocko. Baby Cacall. So we were going to do the show live from the replay room, the Art McNally Gaming Center. Yeah, yeah. What's that called?

The Art McNally. That's what it's called, yeah, yeah. Mission Control. Control Room, Art McNally, what is it? Do we know the actual title? We should pay it to respect. It's where all the replays happen and all the reviews. Since there's games tonight, it was filled up with people.

Mr. Buttersworth, who's the head guy over there, who'll be joined by Alberta River on somebody else, he was like, hey, I can still do the show here. You guys can still do the show like you did here before, but there's going to be people in here setting up for sure. And I'm like, thank you for the hospitality, but I don't think I should be in there. You know, like, I think you guys should probably be doing your things.

So last second, made a little switch over here. Game Day Central. There it is. Art McNally, Game Day Central. I don't know if that's like the best name for a room, but I will certainly try to remember that. And shout out to Art McNally doing that. but that's like a very important place that they had us doing the show from the last time I was out here in New York

and tonight obviously because they have games that's going to be packed out so we had to audible find this do this thank you to this hotel thank you to everybody that's let us do this and shout out to mark long from uh road rules I just found out he got his hair replaced no by bosley bosley bosley.com good for him so Mark he's like that he's kind of a jacked dude from like the original yeah original road rules oh okay I remember him. Yeah, legend. He's huge WWE mark. Oh, he is. Okay.

He's normally on, like, the entrance ramp for almost every PLE. And he's super job. Yeah, he looks really good. And I obviously, I'm from the real world Road Rules era. So, like, I obviously, as soon as I was walking down one time, I saw him and I, like, stopped. And I was like, you're, you're Mark Long. He goes, yeah, what's up? Like, dude, I'm a huge.

You and the mic, bro. You guys are a great. Yeah. The goats. You and the mic. And coral, I think, was another. Yep. C.T.

Pock. Pock C. Yeah. Puck. Johnny bananas. Derek. Is Puck still with us? Wes?

Oh. I don't know. I'm going to say rest in peace to Puck. I don't know. We don't either. Someone. I sure hope he's still with us. I don't think.

I think he was like, remember he was like, swallow and lugy, like as a drink. There was something he did. He was back. Stole up. Puck's did. Kill kicking. Nice.

We should have known Puck's never going to die. Hey, shout out Puck's still doing it. He was a great character for all of us. How about those MTV VJs? You remember when VJs was a thing? Kurt Loader. Yep. He's still doing it.

Dave Holmes. Who's the big tall one that won the wannabea a VJ contest? Remember the Paul Stey guy? Jesse, yeah. Carson Daly's, he was a DJ, right? Or a VJ. VJ?

Yeah, consider probably the VJ goat. I assume Carson Daly. Daisy Flynn. Jeez. What an era. What an era that young people don't know about. Well, I talked to somebody last night. He's 38 years old who didn't know what the fucking agrocragg was.

What? Who? What do we do? Excommunicado immediately. Not Kelsey. No, Jason Kelsey knows what the fuck. Agro Craig is. He might be trying to build that his backyard right now with what I know about him now.

That guy is trying to compete at all. It is incredible that Jason Kelsey is exactly. what you would hope he would be. I don't know if this has been publicly stated yet or not, and I'm probably not supposed to say it. Jason Kelsey wants to run one-on-ones, O-line, D-line, one-on-ones with random fans on different stops around Monday night football. Yes.

Love it. Against him. He wants to take the fans on, you're saying. Yeah, just, oh, it's so easy, huh? That's kind of the angle. Because you talk about the kicking thing for college. It's like kicking is easy is where everybody says. So we do that.

Obviously, a lot more people start making it, but there's a lot of misses and there's a big embarrassment. I think he sees that. He's like, you know, that's a good idea. Let's put perspectives behind what this is. And I think, I don't know if, I don't know if it's going to happen or if laws, lawyers will ever let it happen. But I think that idea was pitched last year for Monday Night Count that when I was not around.

I would like to let everybody know, I am certainly in the Jason Kelsey doing one-on-ones with random fans around NFL Town's camp. That would be great TV. I said that. I'm in that kid. I think we're putting helmet pads cleats on too, right? Over top of it. I think we're doing it.

I mean, pro-verse Joe's did it, just to sign a waiver. Yeah, you're right. That's what I'm saying, but I think because we're, yeah. Oh, you're saying like 2026 is different than the early 2000s? People are saying it is a little different what you're allowed to do what you're not allowed to do. That's bullshit. I don't think so. I think some of it is actually.

What's something you can't do now that you could do that? Well, I think it's gone. Some of it's like, some of it's like gone for like good, good, you know? Like, I don't think it's ever coming back. I think some stuff is like gone for a good good, you know, just can't really do. Like, and everybody kind of knows that that is kind of around. But, you know, every once in while you just kind of, you miss, you know, and everybody has opinions. So believe me, we've been there.

When it never done that, we're worse humans on earth. I know that. I am at least considered that on a regular basis. but like the internet's been a crazy place here for the last couple of days. I guess forever the internet has been. But I will say I can't wait for football start. Hell yeah. It's taken over by football tonight.

FCS games, preseason games. Then we are just a week removed from massive things, massive implications, massive games, massive highlights, massive everything. And we're so incredibly lucky that we get to do it. All right. Me and Gump, you're going to figure out how to get back to Indianapolis. It feels like there's pretty big storms brewing. over here. That's great. I did see that.

Safe travels lives. Yeah. Don a jersey. Thank you. It should be a nice bucking bull out of here. You know, maybe the pilot will come back and tell us, this could be pretty gnarly. It's going to be pretty gnarly. It's like, all right.

You got it. Let me put a helmet on, I guess. We'll try to do that. We can't thank everybody enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The football season is going to be epic, I think. Next Thursday, September 3rd at the Ratskeller in Indianapolis, Indiana. Doors will open at 4. I will be performing alongside a,

an incredible cast of musicians. This would be the first ever live performance of the Diary of a Polarizing figure. Probably last, but... Never know. Who knows. Should be a great celebration of the off season ending in football kicking off. We hope you'll come join us. Doors will open at 4 o'clock.

I think it'll be 15, 20 bucks to get in. We will have some merch there that will raise money towards some cause. Maybe it'll be the Godreau family as we had... Meredith's on today. That was wonderful to catch up with her. Shout to her battling through grief, being in a very public spotlight, and also trying to make the best and make the world better through it all. So we're excited for that.

If you're in Indy, come stop by and see us. AJ, safe travels back to Ohio. I know you've got a big game today. Yeah, we'll see, buddy. Eighth grade. Eighth grade situation going on. I'm helping. First game of season?

Yeah, so we'll see. Holy shit. For the young bucks. Yeah. Why not? What is it? Tackle, flag? What do we got?

It's tackle football. We play football. football. If I say football, football, it's football is football. Okay, so you're playing, you're playing football, eighth grade. Who is he? Tackle football. Tackle football, the one you've met,

it came to the draft with me, Hendricks. Okay, so Hendricks got tackle football. Is this his first tackle football game, or he hasn't been playing you? No, no, he's been playing for a while. He's been playing for a while. He's an eighth. So he's been playing for a little bit, but yeah, you know, it's, I'm just helping out, you know, volunteer. Aemba defenses?

You know what? It's about us. It's not about scheme. I've been telling these kids, third grade, fifth grade, eighth grade, whatever. Like, we could draw up everything you want. There's answers for everything on paper, bud, but it's about head and hands and violence and run to the ball with proper leverage, at least on defense.

Head and hands. The BU study just came out. 25% of the brain study that played football, CT, obviously back in 2008. You know, and they're like, well, is it NFL or is it youth football? Do we know if it's something else? Like, how can we really get at your ages? Like, well, we're never going to really know,

especially every here in Ohio. These boys have been heads and hand in since they're three. Okay, and now eighth grade football, we got some people in the stands now looking for some violence. Okay, we got to get these boys ready for, you know, freshman football is next year, JV football is just right around the corner. Some of these guys might be getting NIL deals less than 11 months from now. So we're going to play some real football.

How do you feel about the team? Do you feel like you guys are going to dominate or is there the eighth graders that are coming in potentially going to bully? We'll see, man. You never, like honestly between like six and eighth grade, fifth and eighth grade, I think we all know one or two kids that are pretty developed may have like mustache and goatee. They can kind of take over a game every once in a while. So you never know.

I have no idea what other teams look like. But I tell you what, I like the, we got a great core group of kids that we've been out there practicing every day. These dudes, they work hard, man. Like we've been working them. I appreciate them. I really do. I saw a video that said a kid was 11. Did you guys see that?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he needs to be moved up. Oh, my goodness. I did see that. That, like that, would that even be fun? No. If you're six foot five If you're that person

If you're that person I guess you're scoring 100 touchdowns Would be a good time This is just like No granted We're not saying he's different age We're not saying he's older And he's playing younger

That is getting checked On a regular basis I assume for that kid Like literally in everything he does I assume there is a check in everything Which not fair to him But I hope he dominates Who is the pitcher for Little League World Series?

Danny Almonte Did he have fun? He had fun Oh he had a hell of a lot of fun He's unhitable You're right. It's pretty fucking awesome when you can go out to the bump and you just strike everybody out.

Yeah, he was having a great time. Hit homers. Yeah. Did Ohio win again today? They did. You see this Ohio team just mopping up in the Little League World Series. Really?

So they won the U.S. championship? They advanced to the U.S. championship. Okay. Again, too. Iowa? No, their manager really kind of made a mess of the entire tournament, unfortunately. I hate to throw that guy under the bus. but they have been eliminated.

It is Ohio versus Nevada in the U.S. championship. Nevada should have an advantage being able to play ball at 365. True. You would think. Yeah, but they got. One of the best kids I grew up playing played basketball and baseball.

He moved to Nevada. His dad moved him to Vegas so he could play a year-round. Bryce Harbor? No, it was not Bryce. So, J.R. House, West Virginia football legend. He played football in the fall in Nitro, West Virginia, and then his dad flew him to Florida for the football or baseball through spring and summer.

And then I think he inevitably ended up staying down in Florida or whatever. That is such an advantage. That is such an advantage. Like, your round ability to just go outside and do stuff. Now, granted, indoor facilities are certainly there, but what if it's not readily available for everybody? Like, when I was growing up, I was hoping that the Monroeville Sports Center had room and we were going to able to get in there

and maybe do a little something. We had no idea for this case. It's like growing up in great weather, I think is quite an advantage for sports. So if the Ohio lads do get a dub here, I think we should be very proud, especially for the state of Ohio, which has come under a lot of criticism over the last few days. The state as a whole

has not at all. A part right, there's a region right on the Pennsylvania border where you know, just, I don't know. They do some messy things. There is a dust up, I guess. something. I don't know what exactly happened. Didn't seem that. But the guy, you know, people are tied to the NFL. And so

yeah, Ohio gets in the news. No, it says in Ohio. Every single one says, in Ohio. I'll tell you some news. I just read that I don't necessarily love, but then there was maybe a follow-up. So when I was in college at West Virginia, I didn't go to class much. My teachers all kind of understood that. I'm going to show up at

the test. I had to show up at the test, though. Like, a lot of pressure to show up at the test because I'm getting no other scores. So test is the only thing. And we got an email to our student email that was like just a heads up the circus came down this weekend and African lion was not found okay so just a heads up okay that that was pretty crazy email to read you know like hey a lion could potentially just get you on your trip here to the test like that was a crazy thing and who knows where that lion is I still have yet to get an update fox 59

Indianapolis Indiana said Madison County potentially has some lions on the loose so what Breaking, the Madison County Sheriff's Department said its deputies are on the hunt after reports of big cats being on the loose in the southern part of the county as well as northern Hancock County. Then Nick sent a follow-up somewhere that said, the sheriff said, I don't know what you talk about. We don't see you in line. Nobody has to be pregnant. So just keep your eyes pure. My people. Bill, I need some of your weapons, Bill.

I read the article. It is confirmed there was a lion in a cup. on the loose, but the sheriff said that they checked all the local sanctuaries and they were all accounted for and they weren't aware of any permits in the area of anyone who had one. So this is a, this is a wild lion? Sounds like we got an undocumented line on the loose. Tim, Tim said he was thinking it might be a mountain lion coming back to the region. We don't want to hear that.

Tim, listen, Tim told me he was going to take a bow and arrow down to Morgantown and shoot that fucking African lion. Okay, whatever that was happening. He's got to do it here. A little bit smart. I mean, he was ready. I mean, you don't often get to do an African safari hunt, I guess, in Morgantown. That's kind of how Tim was viewed. You know, you want me to bring a bow and error down. I know it's urban

warfare this would be, but I don't know if they ever found that particular lion. If you're in Indiana, keep your eyes, he's your fucker king of the jungle. If it's not a mountain line, if it's a mountain line, we also got to be worried because that's African-American lion. Right? That's an American lion.

be don't dick around with sedating these things shoot them right in between the eyes in the fucking head kill him kill it do you run do you play dead what do you do if you come across kick it right in the ball i think you start meowing i think you maw me out so then he rapes you je geez what the hell i'm sorry he fornicates you there it is no i think you punch it violates you just i have cats at the house i think i don't want to be violated by but i think if you get it right in between the eyes and you start petting i think it starts purvey and stuff. Steps to ball and never run.

Running can trigger the animal's chase instinct. Okay. Stand tall and face the line. Keep your eyes on the animal and maintain direct gaze. Stair this thing down. Appear large. Bring debone with us. Open your jacket, okay?

Make noise speaking a loud firm. Listen up, you little pussycat. You know, that type of stuff. Do not crouch or bend over, of course, because then you might get it, like, as AJ likes to say, fornicated. And then you just kind of back away slowly while throwing catnip. so I think that is how you handle it.

People in Indiana need to keep a close eye on these steps to follow so we can all survive the day. Gumpi and I are going to try to get out of here to get back to Indianapolis, Indiana. AJ Safe Travels back to your eighth-grade tackle football game. Thank you for traveling out there. Boys, what a day. The NFL is in a great place. Feels like everything's up to the right,

and football is starting a night. It's FCS Football Day. It's good news. We'll watch it all, and we'll be back tomorrow. Be your friend, tell the friend. something nice. It might change your life. We're interested in together.

Team on me. Look at Gumps back there in the bar. I love Gumbs. I love the baby Gumpch. Good work, Gumps. A.B.B.A.J. said, like, what is that bar, like, two and a half feet tall? Because you look kind of big in there.

I think that was rude. I didn't like that. Thank you. He said, thank you, Ago. He said like a robot. Yeah. Well, we got. He's going through your.

He said he's going. here. I think he got his visa by the way in the mail if he like you congratulate. Hey, my God. Congratulations. Nice. U.S.A. U.S.S.

Be your friend, tell her friends. I'm nice. It might change your life when we're sitting together. We'll see you all tomorrow. Great work back there, boys. Team on me. Team on three for the good of support, baby. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.

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