The Ryen Russillo Podcast - Official Super Bowl LVIII Pick, Troy Aikman on Dealing With Extra Prep Time, and Life Advice

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Russillo starts the show by revealing his pick for Super Bowl LVIII (0:44). Then, he’s joined by Troy Aikman to discuss the differences that playing in a Super Bowl presents, weigh in on both quarte...rbacks, and share how his teams dealt with extra prep time (13:17). Plus, Life Advice with Ceruti and Kyle! How to handle Valentine's Day when traveling solo (38:05). The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Host: Ryen Russillo Guest: Troy Aikman Producers: Steve Ceruti, Kyle Crichton, and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 because we did two huge trade podcasts with bill for the nba deadline the nba deadline uh this podcast will be a little brief but i'm going to give you my super bowl picks i'm going to preview it with troy acheman he's going to tell some great stories from his days with the Cowboys. He's always a lot of fun when we have him on. We'll take a look at Mahomes. He'll talk Purdy with us as well. And trying to balance being who you are and surprising the opponent as you game plan for the biggest game in the country. And life advice. Enjoy the Super Bowl. crumb topping? Total yes. Get almost, almost anything delivered with Uber Eats. Order now. Alcohol in select markets. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. Before we break down the Super Bowl with the Chiefs and 49ers with three-time Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:01:17 winner Troy Aikman, I'll give you my pick and my thoughts, a little history and how I came to my conclusion. It's not super complicated. I'm picking the Chiefs because I just can't pick against my homes a third time in the same playoff season. I just can't do it. And we'll talk a little bit about that at the end. Now, if we look at Kansas City and their spreads in previous Super Bowls, their first win against the Niners, they were favored by one. The next year against Tampa, where they got smoked, they were favored by three. Then it was Rams and Cincinnati. And then last year when they beat Philadelphia, the Eagles were favored by a point and a half. Looking at the line today, as I've been in Vegas,
Starting point is 00:01:54 I've seen it either two and a half or two. Of course, San Francisco favored. So we've had 57 Super Bowls. How about these numbers? These guys are good at this. There were no totals, so there was no over-under play for the first Super Bowl. We've had 56 Super Bowls with a total that you could bet on. It's 28 and 28 on over-unders. Favorites are 28 and 26 with two pushes and one pick-em in there. You dig through it and you're like, hey, I wonder how well the favorite has done over the years I wonder how well the dogs have done three straight dogs have covered that includes Cincinnati plus the four and a half and their loss against LA 23 to 20 so if we look at Kansas City and who they've been this season we know that the offense
Starting point is 00:02:43 has been a big part of the story because you're like, this is not what we expected. And certain losses this season where you think, can I actually write this team off, especially with as well as Baltimore had played. And some of the other teams were still flirting with. Buffalo had their own issues and turned things around. We loved Miami for a little while. Ivan flirted with the idea of Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:03:01 which I immediately regretted and tried to retract as soon as I possibly could. Cincinnati had their issues because of injuries. So the AFC at the top, it just felt like you're always worried about the Chiefs, but there were just a lot of momentum stories that made you think, well, how much longer can I keep buying into this team that is not even close to being the same as they were offensively in the Super Bowl seasons and even another season when they lost to Cincinnati. So if you look at their Super Bowls, the first one, they were fifth in points scored. The second one, they were sixth in points scored. Their third one, they were first in points scored. And this year, they're 15th in points
Starting point is 00:03:32 scored. So a completely different team. Also 12-4, 14-2, 14-3, but this year with six losses. We know the defense is a big reason why they're even here. Let's look at the losses because when I went through these and remember watching every one of these games, you just saw things that on paper you'd be like, all right, Mahomes got the ball late in the game. That's probably a wrap. Well, it didn't really work out that way for much of the season. First week against Detroit.
Starting point is 00:03:59 This is what had to happen for Kansas City to lose this many games, by the way. First week against Detroit, they lose. No Kelsey, no Chris Jones. They're down 21-20 on downs. There was also a pick six off of Kadarius Toney on a tip pass. So you get a pick six. Those two guys aren't there. And yet Kansas City still had the football with a chance late, and then they turn over on downs. That's number one in one of their six losses. Denver week eight, five turnovers. Mahomes had the flu. His QB rating of 59.1 is the second lowest of his career. So that was a bunch of factors. No laid down situation there because they got smoked because of the five turnovers. Week 11, they lose to
Starting point is 00:04:35 Philadelphia. Philadelphia at that point had clinched, well not clinched, but at that point had the best single record in the NFL. Second and 10, 150 to go. MVS drops a 51-yard touchdown. He was clear. Now, granted, maybe he's tackled at the one or falls down and gets touched, but they're probably winning that game. They turned over on downs a second time on that last drive there from Mahomes that season. Down 21-17, they lose the game. Green Bay week 13, down 27-19. Mahomes ends up with four incompletions to end the game, but there was a clear pass interference on MVS in this one on a deep shot that may have won it for them. Doesn't matter. They're down eight. They would have had to get the two-point conversion as well. Another game that ends on downs with Mahomes. Buffalo loss,
Starting point is 00:05:22 week 14, down 20-7. We know the play, second and 10. Kelsey laterals to Kadarius Toney for a game-winning touchdown. At least it looks that way. Toney is called for offensive offsides. Everybody loses their mind on that one. So that's another game that ends on downs. And then week 16 against Vegas and that loss, it took two defensive touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:05:44 There was a late touchdown scored by the Chiefs to make it better from 20 to 7, the score 20 to 14. So the score looks a little bit closer. But the reason I go over all of those is that you actually saw something from Mahomes that you're not used to seeing. You'd expect him to deliver maybe in half of the four times they turned it over on downs. The Denver loss is whatever. I mean, Green Bay legitimately beat him except for the pass interference thing. But but again still some other things were going to have to happen but that's how you look at their six losses and i know it's very easy for teams especially ones that have losing records and the coach comes into camp the next year and goes oh
Starting point is 00:06:16 you know we had eight one score losses you're like yeah sort of like everybody in the entire league but for mahomes to not get those things done and to have so many individual things, if you're a Chiefs fan, you go, well, that was weird, and that was weird, and you just keep adding them up. It's how you get to six losses for a team now that I'm going to pick to win the Super Bowl. So the number that scares the hell out of me, though,
Starting point is 00:06:38 in picking the Chiefs, is we know that San Francisco loves their zone-blocking scheme for their runs and that you have Kittle, who's probably the best blocking tight end, who just seems to love destroying people off of the edge and all the different things that you can do with Debo in motion and Trent Williams, the best tackle in the game, and McCaffrey, who you don't really know what to expect other than to expect it all with the way they want to use him and his versatility. Kansas City is 31st in yards per carry against zone runs. So you'd imagine
Starting point is 00:07:06 they're going to try to load the box, counter that, slow it down. Maybe the Niners are looking to have some ball control here to keep the ball out of Mahomes' hands. But that would mean the cornerbacks are going to just have to man up the entire game and win their matchups. And they have the corners to do that. So the number that makes me feel good is if you look at Kansas City as they close the season against Diggs, Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase, and Devontae Adams, those four receivers, all number one options, all at the top of the list for the best receivers in the game, had a combined 12 receptions for 128 yards.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Kansas City allowed the fourth fewest yards this season to receivers in the league. You could come at me with the Zay Flowers numbers, five catches, 115, but the 30-yard touchdown was a weird play. And then a busted coverage on the 54-yard completion to him. And that was the one where he actually got hit with a penalty, although his day would get worse. San Francisco has felt like the best team all season long. I picked him this summer to make it to the Super Bowl to face the Bills. I was wrong on the AFC side. I guess I don't want to pick Mahomes every single year, even though I feel like I'm probably going to. Basically, San Francisco took three weeks off in October. Baltimore handed him an ass-kicking. That game was so dominant for the Ravens that you almost just kind of chalk it up to going, all right, this was the premier matchup and Baltimore absolutely handled them.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But are you really going to get five interceptions if they were to play each other again in the Super Bowl? Like if it was Baltimore sitting here this week, I might even pick San Francisco just because it's football. And at this level, I don't think that game is going to play out that way if you played it a hundred more times. you played it a hundred more times. But I can't tell if San Francisco being down in both playoff games to Detroit and green Bay is something that's good for party and this team. There's a lot of pieces left from the last time they matched up, but for party who clearly wasn't there and it was Garoppolo when they played in the Superbowl against the chiefs and lost late.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Is that that scar building that I talk about in pro sports where you have to kind of go through stuff and get those scars to prove how much tougher you can be? Is that a good thing or is it a sign that San Francisco isn't really as dominant as I have felt they are throughout the season with just ass kickings that they've handed out to some of the better teams in the league? I still think San Francisco is really good. But Mahomes has mentally dominated me these last couple weeks. The Bills thing was a bit of, hey, it's the Bills time, and you picked them. Baltimore, I changed my mind on that game all week long,
Starting point is 00:09:42 and then I came down to, look, Miami didn't have enough guys defensively. Buffalo was missing so many people on that side of the football. Baltimore is the best defense in the league, and they have all their dudes. And by the way, that Baltimore defense did an unfathomable thing, getting Kansas City to punt five straight possessions in the second half and shutting them out. We can talk about game planning and trying to run the clock
Starting point is 00:09:59 and all that kind of stuff, but that Ravens defense absolutely showed up, and it still wasn't enough. So if I'm being really honest about this pick, I don't know that I can go 0-3 picking against Mahomes in the same playoffs. But I'm going to be okay. I'll be okay if I get it wrong as opposed to other games. There's another game I was thinking about of all the years I've picked a Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:10:23 where I remember the Eagles-Pats matchup six years ago. And I was like, Foles against Belichick? And that Pats defense wasn't great by any means. So I knew it was somewhat of a weakness. I was like, is Foles really going to beat Belichick and with Brady on the other side? And then the Eagles put up 538 yards of offense, won that Super Bowl. By the way, if you ever could fathom the Patriots, be like, yeah, they're going to have 613 yards. Brady's going to throw for over 500.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And they're going to lose a Super Bowl to Nick Foles. It's probably one of the most unlikely explanations of a Super Bowl you could ever have as far as the outcome. So when I got that one wrong, I was like, you know what? I can live with that. Like, are you kidding? They lost that game? And that's kind of how I feel with this one. Chiefs. Final score, 28-20.
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Starting point is 00:11:34 Four different theories combined into one. A plus 764 payout. Alright, so alternate spread, Chiefs plus 7.5. That doesn't even feel like it's fair. But what else do we have to do to get that work on that kind of payout? This is the zag theory. This is the zag against
Starting point is 00:11:49 everybody. Our own Todd McShay, beginning this week, was talking about the matchup on the ground saying Pacheco, Pacheco, Pacheco. Everybody's on this Pacheco over 67.5 rushing yards. Let's go under. Let's zag on it, everybody. Alright, what does the film tell us? The film tells us two other things,
Starting point is 00:12:05 that Purdy will probably run for over 12.5 yards. So you with me so far? Chiefs plus 7.5 under Pacheco's rushing total of 67.5. Purdy over 12.5 rushing yards, which feels like all I got to do is get one on third down, and I'm in the game. And then here's where all the numbers tell you this might be the play. Brandon Ayuk under four and a half catches.
Starting point is 00:12:27 The Kansas City Chiefs defensive backs have absolutely shut down top receiving options. It's one of the strengths of this team. It's one of the most impressive numbers that you'll look for any team, for any unit in football this season. The track record is not good, especially later on in the season. So Ayuk under 4.5, Purdy over 12.5 rushing yards, Pacheco under 67.5, and plus 7.5 with the Chiefs. That doesn't seem
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Starting point is 00:14:01 about like i a the preparation what's the week, you know, when you look at Mahomes now playing in his fourth one, like how different was it for you having one under your belt, you know, having one and kind of understanding what it was like and walking out of the tunnel, taking the field in the biggest game of the year. Well, I think that's the, that's the advantage that Patrick Mahomes and those that have played in the Super Bowl before have um you know does that tilt uh the playing field i don't think so my first super bowl we didn't have but a couple of guys who had really had even much playoff experience and we were going against the buffalo team that had played in the two prior super bowls and and obviously we were able to win that game but i think the
Starting point is 00:14:41 advantage is that my homes goes into this game at least understanding what that atmosphere is going to be like what his body is going to be feeling as he goes into the game and and for a guy like Brock Purdy you know I mean he's handled everything well up to this point but yet it is a different atmosphere and it's a different game as as much as you want to say hey it's just like any other game it's not and the players know that you can say that as you want to say, hey, it's just like any other game, it's not. And the players know that. You can say that all you want, but they understand that. They're there all week.
Starting point is 00:15:11 They're around the hype. They get it. They know that, you know, come Sunday night, there's going to be a quarterback and there's going to be a team that is going to realize a childhood dream. And for Mahomes, he gets to do it again. It would be his third. And I think that's the exciting part as you prepare during the week is knowing that within just a few more days, what you've worked so hard for,
Starting point is 00:15:37 you have a chance to figure out whether or not your efforts were good enough and if you achieved it. This might be an impossible question to even answer because it's just your reality. But I mean, do you even have you ever allowed after your playing career to think like, man, what would it have been like if I'd never even gotten one? I you know what? I can't imagine. I really can't, you know, because, you know, when when I was playing, there was a time
Starting point is 00:16:01 where teams that had won the Super Bowl really struggled the following year. And they called it the Super Bowl hangover. And now it seems like it's more the team that loses that struggles more. But I never understood that after we won our first Super Bowl because the feelings are so amazing. It's unlike, it's indescribable. I mean, it's unlike anything else that you experience in life. It's undescribable. I mean, it's unlike anything else that you experience in life. The only thing that really compared to it for me was the birth of my children.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And so when you experience something that feels that good, man, you want to go back and you want to do it again and again and again. And so, you know, they get a chance to to see what they're all about. you know, they get a chance to, to see what they're all about. And those, those guys, you know, I think of a guy like Dan Marino who, you know, made it to the Superbowl, but for as much as he contributed to the NFL and his place in history to, and gave so much to not have experienced what it was like to leave that field, having won a Superbowl. I hate it for all those players that didn't get a chance to do that. But you do have a little smile on your face as, as you say it. Well,
Starting point is 00:17:13 I say, I say, you know, Jim Kelly, I beat him twice and he lost four in the Superbowl and I hate it for Jim too. You know, there's others. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I mean, not at the expense of me losing one. I, I don't want that, but it just, if you've never felt it, you really don't know what you're missing. And there's a lot of players, a lot of great players that have given so much to the game that haven't had that opportunity. When we look at Mahomes, you know, it's still early in his career, despite some of the lofty
Starting point is 00:17:44 conversations that we have him in. And the idea that I think a couple of weeks ago, I'd said that I'm open to the idea that he could potentially catch Brady's resume, which still seems impossible. But just his ability, you know, you've played the position at the highest level, his ability. Like what what list is he on for you as far as just pure talent at the position well as someone who played the position i i have an appreciation for how hard it is and you know he i think the great ones were able to do that i think of a guy like joe montana who you know was almost like a ballerina in the pocket. He made everything just look effortless. And Mahomes kind of has that ability as well,
Starting point is 00:18:30 that he just looks like he doesn't look like he's exerting as much effort as everyone else. He understands it and is playing at a little bit of a different level. And I think that what I see of Patrick is that in the most critical moments, the game really seems to slow down more for him. And he just has a patience and a calm in the pocket and is able to put the ball. He's got so much confidence in his ability to put the ball wherever he wants to. And he gives his receivers an opportunity to make a play.
Starting point is 00:19:01 is an opportunity to make a play. I mean, even in the AFC championship game, time after time, he just lays the ball and depends on his players being able to adjust and make plays, and he puts it where only his guy can get to it. And it's pretty remarkable. And I know there's a lot of conversation about where does Patrick rank and where will he rank when it's all said and done compared to Tom Brady. And it's hard to imagine. I mean, I know when I was playing, the thought of winning four Super Bowls
Starting point is 00:19:29 or five to pass Bradshaw and Montana, you know, seemed insurmountable. And then, you know, of course, Brady was able to win seven. And it's hard to imagine that anyone will be able to do that. But, you know, my guess is at some point in time in history, somebody will. And Patrick Mahomes has as good of an opportunity as anybody. But I also know that it doesn't just continue. You know, like when we won our third Super Bowl, I did not think for a second that that was the end for us. And yet we, we kind of went off the cliff, you know, a year later and we were done. I mean, our run was over. And so it usually ends before
Starting point is 00:20:10 you realize it's ending. And, you know, you'd think with Mahomes that he'll continue to be a contender, but again, you just never know. What's the list of just when you watch somebody throw the football where you're amazed? Like, I think Elway's always kind of on it. Um, Marino with the release, I think Rogers on some of the velocity throws and he throws in the red zone, you know, just that the store was so hard for even the best quarterbacks. Like how long is the list that I think my homes is also on? Uh, it's, uh, I mean, I have a, I have a lot of respect for a lot of the guys that you mentioned and those that played guys. I watched growing up guys. I competed against,
Starting point is 00:20:50 uh, Elway Marino, uh, Jim Kelly, Warren moon. Uh, you know, there's a lot of them. Uh, but I probably am not as impressed. Uh, I'm not as easily impressed, I guess is a better way of saying it is what, you know, maybe some, some some others are i i think i think arm strength is vastly overrated what usually what usually impresses me one is i like the guy who is not worried about his own stats that just wants to win and and you can tell i mean you can tell when you hear their comments you can hear when players make comments after games as to where their heart really is. Do they really just want to win? Or, yeah, they want to win, but really it has more to do with whatever their numbers are.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And so that's what I admire most in the quarterbacks that I respect. And then the other part of that is that the ability to put the ball where you want to put it. And it's not easy. I've always felt that if you made a list of the criteria that's important to play the position, number one on that list for me is accuracy. Because you can be tough. You can have a great arm. You can be smart.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You can be everything else. But if you can't put the ball where you want to put it, nothing else matters. I mean, your job is to throw the football and get it to the people who can make plays for you. So that's number one. And the guys that are able to do that, I have a real appreciation for. And both these guys can do that, that are playing in this game. I think because of Purdy's profile, you'll see the wins. And then at one point with the stats, you're like, I guess he's going to win MVP.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And then I think because of the talent of the roster with the Niners and the fact that Shanahan is so well-respected with his system and what he does as far as his play calling, it's maybe because it's too new with Purdy, Troy, where if he gets this one this weekend, it's like, okay, now we're allowed to all say he's one of the better quarterbacks in the league. But how do you view him? Yeah, I hope they do. I don't know that they will because he's done an awful lot already. And it's what you have to overcome when you're taking in the seventh round. And that's
Starting point is 00:23:00 what he's fighting. Now, if he wins a Super Bowl and then he wins another Super Bowl, I think slowly that facade goes away and then people start to recognize him for what he really is. But there's no question in my mind that if he were a first-round pick, we would be talking about him far differently than we're talking about him right now. And there's no doubt that he's got really good players around him. And if you're going to win in the NFL, you have to have that. Joe Montana had that. Terry Bradshaw
Starting point is 00:23:30 had that. I had that. And I think a lot of times you overlook just how good a lot of these players are that make up this roster. But there's no doubt that he's got a lot of good players around him. But when you watch him, you can see that he puts the ball where he has to put it and he makes plays, you know, when he needs to make them. And so I hear it. He's a game manager. I don't agree with the term, but I think when you say that you, you don't appreciate the key third down throws and the things that a quarterback has to do to sustain a drive and to score points. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of Brock Purdy's. I think he's a hell of a player. I think he's wired right.
Starting point is 00:24:11 He wants to win. His team comes first. I mean, all the things that we just talked about a moment ago, I feel that he possesses. I've had a career-long obsession with trying to figure out this position. You know, we had Dominique Foxworth on recently and he was just like, look, the stuff that Peyton Manning did before the snap was why he was Peyton Manning. He's like, the rest of the stuff, the throwing and the accuracy and all those things are great. He's like, but what he would get us to do in a playoff game defensively and then just give it away. He goes, that's the part that I admit, when I'm watching, as long as I've watched this sport,
Starting point is 00:24:44 it's still really hard for us that didn't play the position to truly understand the difference. Like we can look at 300 yards and a couple of touchdowns and be like, oh, I guess that guy's awesome. And I'm sure you see it a little differently. And I don't mean to call out a Mitch Trubisky, but I remember when you called that Bears-Saints game. And I really enjoyed that you were looking at at the score game time and situation and kind of looking at the way Trubisky was throwing the football and you were like hey man like we need we need to start raising the level of risk essentially I imagine you noticed that with almost everybody on Sunday correct yeah and and I think that you know we're in this fantasy world
Starting point is 00:25:23 uh fantasy football and and and I get it you know I we're in this fantasy world, fantasy football. And I get it. You know, I mean, the fans that are playing, they're about touchdowns and yards and all those things. But I could name quarterbacks, I'm not going to, that were on teams that could have won and could have won big. But they didn't understand how to play the position. And what I mean by that is not every situation is the same. And if you're down 12 points late in the third, you play differently as a quarterback than you do if you're up four points in the same point in the game.
Starting point is 00:26:00 If your defense is playing great and you've got a one-possession lead and you're in the red zone, then a field goal is a big deal and you're not taking chances with the football. And so you go into a game with an idea as to what you're going to have to do. If I'm Brock Purdy, I would go into this game thinking, you know, we'll see how things unfold, but there's a chance we're going to have to be able to score some points. You know, this quarterback and this offense is capable of getting hot. And then you wait and you see how it goes. And then as the game goes along, you adjust what you're thinking. And on third downs, depending on what all is happening with the score, how your defense is playing, how are you playing, how are guys, are they getting open,
Starting point is 00:26:43 what's the defense, all of those things, that then affects what you're doing yourself and who you're trying to get the ball to and how much risk you're willing to take. And so I watch it and I see a lot, I see some quarterbacks that, that go out and play every play as though it's the first play of the game and sling it all over the place. And that's not how you win football. And Tom Brady, the reason he has won more football games than anyone, one, he played a long time. But I watched him on teams in New England when they couldn't block anybody.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And he would not take a sack in the game. Would not take a sack. And then you get to the fourth quarter, and you give yourself a chance to make a play and win a game. That's winning football. And there's a lot of other quarterbacks you could put on some of those teams. They wouldn't have come close to accomplishing what they accomplished with Tom at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Yeah, and I completely agree. And I love that moment because I think. And I, I love that moment. Cause I think, you know, I, I understand the job and you don't want to be negative, but it was just such a great moment for me at home and everybody else that was at home listening to somebody like you would play the position, just going like, eh, okay. Like, this is kind of what I need. And it's something I always kind of look for because of moments like that, when you're teaching us, I want to, I want to talk prep here a little because you know you're on
Starting point is 00:28:08 these cowboys teams you're really good so it's not like you want to change who you are but you also realize that they have all this extra prep time for you depending on whether it was buffalo or it's pittsburgh or something like that how do you balance going let's not deviate too much from from from what we've done to get here, but let's also realize that they're really good and they're really smart and they have all this extra prep. How do you balance staying true to who you are with also wanting to maybe throw a wrinkle in there that they're not expecting? Yeah, it's a good question. And you do run that risk. And you run that risk in the regular season when you have a bye week. And yet what's at stake is not
Starting point is 00:28:46 quite what's at stake when you're going into a Super Bowl. So the way most teams did it, it's the way we did it. And I'm pretty confident in saying it's the way all teams continue to do it is you have that bye week. And so you put in the offense. If you've got any new wrinkles, you put it in and you work on those things while you're at your facility during that off week. And you go to the host site, in this case, Las Vegas, and you've got a pretty good feel for what this game plan is. And you know, like every week, there's going to be a few different wrinkles you're going to see defensively, and you're going to have a few different wrinkles offensively as well but you really you've got to be careful in trying to in trying to put in some things that give you a chance and then not allowing the players to just go play because this element that we talked about earlier you don't know how players are going to
Starting point is 00:29:43 react in the Super Bowl. You just don't, especially the ones that are handling the football. And it's what I enjoy most about watching the Super Bowl is how, you know, for this game, I'm not worried about Patrick, because as we mentioned, the games he's played in and the Super Bowls he's played in. But I'm interested in watching Brock Purdy early in this game and how he throws the ball and is he on target you know does he show any nerves can you see that uh as a viewer uh but but that's that's the balance that i think all coaches have to weigh and they all do uh as to how much are we going to put in in order to give us a few chances that we might not otherwise have without overloading and getting away from who we really are.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Were you ever surprised? Maybe it doesn't even have to be a Super Bowl because I know the first two got a little aggressive on the point differential there, but I don't know if there's an NFC game, maybe it's the Niners or something where you're like, okay, you're coming back to the sideline after a couple of series going, wow, I didn't expect this. Well, I will say the first Super Bowl that we were in uh you know we got down early uh and we were young we were the youngest team in football and i mean everyone was losing their minds i mean that we couldn't get i mean we couldn't get lined up we knew what the first 20 plays were on friday we couldn't get lined up i mean it was it was there was a lot of adrenaline a lot of emotion you know and and i thought i remember going to the sidelines and it was like a bad dream initially. And I, and if you,
Starting point is 00:31:09 if someone had told me right then that this game's going to end in a blowout, I would have said, no doubt we're on the receiving end of the blowout, you know, because it was, it was not good. So that, you know, obviously we were able to regroup and pull it together. I will say that, I don't know if this was your question, but we used to watch San Francisco film every week. Norv Turner, our offensive coordinator, in order, because they were so good offensively with Steve Young at quarterback, that we would see if there was any plays they were running that fit what we were doing offensively.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You can't just say, well, this team's doing this and it works and then put it in your own offense because it doesn't always match up with what you're doing as an offense. But there was a play that San Francisco had run in the divisional round in the playoffs and they were throwing the ball to Ricky Waters and they would run these routes down the field. Ricky Waters would come out of the backfield, they'd hit him and they were getting big gains out of it. So we liked the play. In fact, we liked it so much, we put it in in the NFC championship game that week to go against San Francisco's defense because what they were doing was similar to the defense that 49ers had faced the week before. We put it in, in our second NFC championship game and Emmitt Smith had a huge game catching the
Starting point is 00:32:30 ball. And, and it was great. I mean, and so, you know, we cherry pick plays. We do some things that, that kind of work, but I don't even know if anyone in San Francisco even knew that that's what we had done, but their play that we had seen the week before worked really well for us against their defense and it helped us win the game. So the last Superbowl question I have for you is because I was going through the game logs and clearly the first one, like I had forgotten it was nine total turnovers for Buffalo. That's, that's a lot, uh, as the listeners can present that doesn't happen very often. Um, you know, and then you, you get up 30-13 in the second one. All right, so if you go to the Pittsburgh one,
Starting point is 00:33:09 because they had moved the football. You're up 20-17. You take a sack on second down. It's third and 17. It's incomplete. Was there any moment up 20-17 with him getting the ball back where you're like, wait, are we in trouble here? Was that perhaps the only second-half stress
Starting point is 00:33:24 you've ever had in your Super Bowl career? Yeah, we jumped up on them 10-0. And things were rolling along pretty good. They were struggling. Neil had thrown an interception early in that game. And we had taken a lead. It was going as we had hoped. And then they started to mount this comeback. They kicked an onside kick
Starting point is 00:33:47 after they scored after one. They got the ball. And then the terrible towels came out. Prior to that, we really thought it was predominantly a Cowboy fan, fan base there at the stadium. And then all of a sudden, the terrible towels come out, and it felt like there were no Cowboys fans. It felt like it was all Steelers. And I remember thinking, Holy cow. I mean, we're in a real dog fight. And if, if, you know, Larry Brown was the MVP of that game and he got Ben his second interception in the fourth quarter and had he not have made that interception, I'm not certain we win that game. I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:23 they had all the momentum and I know the analytics says momentum's not a thing it's a thing and it was in that game and so yeah a mistake by Neal and their offense allowed us to win the game but that would have the end
Starting point is 00:34:40 of that game would have looked a lot different and I would have been curious to see how that might have ended if they had been able to keep possession of the ball and seen what that drive, how it ended. Right, and then Emmett two plays later into the end zone, and the rest is history. Before we let you go, we talked to you a year ago about eight elite light lager.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Again, it's a year later. And by the way, the branding and the image and the can and everything, you've done a terrific job with this. I'm a light beer drinker. I don't like the crazy fancy stuff, but you found a way to take something a guy like me likes and make it the highest quality product. What's it been like a year later since we talked? It's been fantastic. I just hired an amazing talent to run things. And he's been incredible. David Rennie. It's light beer made right. And, you know, what do I mean by that? And it's what you said, that I've been a light beer drinker my entire life as well. And I just felt,
Starting point is 00:35:40 I felt that it could be done better. And I hit a period of my life to where I'm very mindful of what I consume. I work out hard, all those, I do all the biohacking. I'm a bit obsessed with all that stuff. And I just, I wanted to make a beer that complimented my lifestyle. And so it's 90 calories, 2.6 carbs. It's a hundred percent organic grains. But we don't add any syrups or sugars or rice like all the other light beers. And so it is as clean and it's a better for you light beer. And yet I know there's people out there who have tried some light beers and they say, wow, this is watered down. It doesn't have really much flavor to it.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And yet eight really has a full body flavor and it's amazing. So I'm, I'm, I couldn't be more proud of the liquid itself. Love the packaging. And we're only in Texas. We are expanding. I can't say exactly where, but it might be a place just North of Texas. And, uh, and that'll be happening in the spring. And so we're really excited. We're continuing to grow. People that have tried it love it. And it really complements the people like myself who are who are active and want to be able to celebrate life's victories and enjoy those moments and yet not compromise all the hard work and efforts that they put in during
Starting point is 00:37:00 the week. Well, I'm really happy for you. And the funniest thing is, you know, as I deal with our bookers being like, Okay for you and the funniest thing is you know as i deal with our bookers being like okay you got troy tomorrow morning you're ready to go okay no problem and it's like you need more evidence that the phone is listening as soon as i was talking about you on text thread and then i just go to instagram and it's like for you and i was getting just just hit over the head with acheman workout videos so you know i i was impressed with the goblet squats i was impressed with the different incline deco you know, I, I was impressed with the goblet squats. I was impressed with the
Starting point is 00:37:26 different incline deco, you know, you were, you were really put it in, you had a soundtrack to it, good editing crew there. So, uh, keep up the good work, man. Hey, I, I appreciate it. Uh, it means a lot, you know, we're, none of us are getting any younger and it doesn't get any easier, but you know, the slogan for the beer is no shortcuts, no excuses. And it's really been my philosophy in life. I think you've got to put the work in if you're going to be good at anything. It's what I tell my girls who are now in college. They stopped listening to me a few years ago. But I'm proud of what the beer represents. And hey, I'm just trying to keep pace like everybody else. For more information, you go to eight, spell it out, 8beer.com. And keep repping out those 60s, man.
Starting point is 00:38:06 That looked like light work for you. Thank you, pal. You want details? Fine. I drive a Ferrari 355 Cabriolet. What's up? I have a ridiculous house in the South Fork. I have every toy you can possibly imagine.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And best of all, kids, I am liquid. So, now you know what's possible. Let me tell you what's required. The email address, lifeadvicerr at gmail.com. We got Kyle, we got Steve. A bit of a disrupted schedule this week with the trade deadline, which put me to sleep while I was doing it. I taped for over two hours and I was like, this is just whatever. We'll
Starting point is 00:38:51 keep it moving here. Fairly relaxed. Vegas is just a little different at this age and I'm happy for it. I feel better about it. I'll be back shortly. So not a big deal, not a long trip. I think everybody- Back to back Carbone dinners i heard right back to back carbon dinners shout out to nick and then uh then bernie and then julie on night two and i was so i haven't been that full in a long time and then they came out with well look i mean we could talk about carbon all day i could do is it hard to get in a carbon because i've now gone to the place right across the hall from that twice.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And both times I walked out, I'm like, oh, fuck, that's Carbone. It's like a French place. But both times I walked out of that French place like, yeah, that was okay. And then I'm like, oh, shit, it's Carbone, like Drake said. So is it hard to get in there? Like, am I not missing out? Because I probably wouldn't have got in anyway. It's not hard when you're solo nice
Starting point is 00:39:46 that's an episode yeah so there's a pro being alone there you go normally i can find a way to to get in by myself to sit there i mean i've had a couple times they're like i don't know if you'll be able to get a table and since i I'd be staying here, I'd just be like, all right, whatever. I'll just go up nine floors and get takeout or something. But, uh, I was really looking forward to it. I didn't even tell anybody what I was doing the first night I was here. Cause I was like, I'm just going to go eat there and then I'll, I'll adapt after. And I got there. I had the last time I was here for the in-season tournament where I ate there. I was just like, can I have six meatballs and a side of pasta? And the guy's like, well, you're going to eat six by yourself.
Starting point is 00:40:28 I was like, I'm going to try. And I think I got through five and a half and the pasta. But then some guy next to me started like handing me some of his stuff. Like it turns into like a little party at the bar. Like guys are just really friendly. Everybody's so happy to be eating there. And he's like, oh, you're going to try some of this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah. Kyle would love it. Kyle would. Kyle really would love it. Camaraderie at the bar people sharing food oh my god smoke the cigarette outside once i don't think you're supposed to smoke in that area but i saw a different guy doing it and uh he had like a cup of water um but it's it's it's all like gray areas in vegas anyway where you can and can't but uh it looks like a good time i can't even remember the name of that french place but i hope i don't get tricked into doing it again and then walking yeah no i know exactly you're like fucking carbone shit i did the same thing so look i it was the next night and then i taped with
Starting point is 00:41:14 uh part of my take our nba preview which will air in march and big cat was like i've never been i was like well we can see if we can get in and there was a couple seats at the bar and you know the guy's been really nice over the years and so we went with the meatballs we went with the spicy rigatoni which doesn't even taste like pasta it's like candy it's so fucking good a little caesar made right in front of you and then um i was like let's just keep going here because they have the cauliflower that's just dipped in this vinegar thing. And it's incredible. The bread's incredible.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And then just pepperoni slices just all folded into each other. We're just popping little pepperoni slices. You're waiting for the next thing. So I was like, let's just get the veal parm. Like I always get chicken parm. Just get the veal parm. Veal parm is awesome. And it was on the bone.
Starting point is 00:42:04 And it was so good. It was actually softer than chicken. It was incredible how good it was. And then they bring you these little rainbow cake almond cookies, they call them, but they're really, I think, just kind of dipped in Frangelico. And they taste incredible. And then at the end, they were like, hey, here's a slice of lemon cheesecake on top of it. Like, thanks for coming in.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And I couldn't eat. I couldn't eat it. I was like, you know, you do that cheesecake bite at the back end where you're just like, I want to hammer as much crust as I can. So veal parm is the only thing I think I feel guilty about eating for kind of obvious reasons but fucking a man veal when veal parm is like right there's just nothing better on an italian menu than veal parm like i'm sorry it just it's you really do feel bad about it i kind of do because it's you know
Starting point is 00:42:55 you put the napkin over your head like tom i don't i don't i just think about it i think sometimes i think about what i'm asking your shame kind of sucks, but it's so freaking good. It's got to taste better than that deep fried bird those guys were eating. Greg, great acting from Greg in that scene. I know. The best is that he had to eat with his grandfather before, full stomach. And it was the worst looking Asian food ever. That was terrible. It was so gross.
Starting point is 00:43:22 God, his grandfather sucked. Yeah. Principled guy though. Yeah. Principled guy, though. Yeah. Principled guy. Like, how is it that my money's the first portion to Greenpeace? How would that even work? All right.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Let's get to some emails here. By the way, that night I ended up hanging out with, I guess he was a huge fan of the pod. We're going to have him on. Okay. Guessing window closed. Shannon Crowder. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Not as much excitement for that as I was. Now my dog started barking and ruined the moment. But no, you did tell me that. It is kind of off-brand. I do kind of like that. Valentine's Day right around the corner. So we do have one here that's fairly specific. Might be my lane. Medium time listener. around the corner. So we do have one here. Uh, that's fairly specific. Might be my lane.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Medium time. Listener. Love the honesty. Six, four, two 55 basketball compass, Dirk. I love the one leg baseline fadeaway and I'm white.
Starting point is 00:44:15 So I've heard Dirk yelled on the court when I play pickup in NYC. All right. Trying to do more like a black guy. I'd be like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm like black Dirk.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That would be incredible. That's such an incredible comp. I know black guy. guy would be like, yeah, I'm like Black Dirk. That would be incredible. That's such an incredible comp. I know. Black guy would be like, I'm a lot like Alex Caruso. Yeah, yeah. It just never happens. Like whenever post-Dirk, it was out of control. Anybody that was 6'11 and could shoot and was international was dirk and if you were
Starting point is 00:44:46 6 8 you were pasia it was like the laziest shit ever just on and on but i still don't know that we've done any better with it i am always whenever i'm doing draft prep i'm always trying to figure out like try to come up with three black players that remind you of white guys and i i don't even know if i've ever gotten a three okay let's go um go. I'm a big points guy. So I found a sweet deal to go skiing in France and figured I'd swing by Venice and Vienna while in Europe. This is a solo trip. Being single, I failed to realize one of my days in Venice falls on Valentine's day, potentially the worst city to be in as a tourist on that holiday. Any advice to take advantage of this? Take advantage is an interesting way to, okay. I figure going to dinner
Starting point is 00:45:25 at a nice restaurant is going to be too depressing. I don't speak Italian, so I just try to hang out at bars. Is this a hotel bar restaurant day? Do you think any other people in similar situations will be out and about? Not my first solo trip, but seems like a new situation. I'm curious to get your thoughts on. All right. He used the Dirk comp, so he's got to be a little bit older, I imagine. Although it's not like Dirk has been gone for that long. So if you're younger, you just don't care. When you're older, you might be a little bit more like, hey, how far do I want to go with this? Because it feels like you got to get some shots up. If you're talking about what I think you're talking about is crossing, crossing glances at some other solo
Starting point is 00:46:07 traveler at a hotel bar. Who's also by themselves on Valentine's day, which is a great opener. You're like, Hey, you're pretty picky too. I see. You know, you don't want to say like, Oh, also a loser. No, spin it the other way. Be like, I see you don't waste your time with just anybody. How about a white Russian? My name's Sergey. Get it? So anyway, right, right. Although I don't know if the Russian stuff plays right now. So I would say that you're going to have to go to a lot of places to find that scenario for yourself. Because I still think whenever I'm in a bar, scenario for yourself because i i still think whenever i'm in a bar specifically in europe there's just not a lot of solo people these aren't solo mission people they are so social they're always at tables i touch more likely to be a kid there than there is like a solo person
Starting point is 00:46:59 like yeah right like i'm not telling you being solo in the States is always the greatest thing. Europe. Good fucking luck, bro. Uh, and then on top of everything else, Venice. So if you actually want to meet somebody, you're going to have to start like looking at the reward point systems that reward American travelers and hope like, I know why you're doing it. What woman is going to Venice by herself from Maryland on Valentine's? What about a Venetian woman? Yeah. Wait. Yeah, but he doesn't even speak Italian.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I know. That's a problem. There's a massive barrier there, especially when you're older. Look, if you're in your 20s and you're going to clubs, you're an American guy and you're kind of fun loving and everybody's drunk enough and you buy some drinks, you just sort of hang out and amoeba into the whole deal. It's more than doable. I'm not saying it's super easy, but it's totally doable. You start pushing late 30s, early 40s,
Starting point is 00:47:54 don't speak the language, and you're by yourself. So you go from like, hey, what's up with that guy? Is he a mercenary? All right? Speaking of firsthand knowledge, you'd be like, what are you, like in the military or something? kind of black water like no i just i think i like hiking and i've tricked myself into it as a hobby uh you're you're gonna have to go to like hotel bars likely only um maybe a cafe here and there but you know this isn't this probably isn't going
Starting point is 00:48:24 to be oceans 12 for you man i don't know i think you should rather just find out during instead of uh instead of the throw caution to the wind i think you find out you can always go home from a bar that's what i've learned so yeah but they're always together they sit at picnic tables they're 12 to 20 deep okay they're always together and they're having the best time and they're just drinking their beers and they're smoking their cigarettes and they all seem to know each other. You've got to be a fucking magician to pull off you not being awkward in that setting or you stay sober and go out really late and then catch up with everybody else as opposed
Starting point is 00:49:07 to awkward drinking all day long and then putting yourself in a spot where everybody's like, get this hammered American guy away from us. Yeah, I don't think the chasing young Venetian women is really going to work out for you. I would say, I mean, again, I wish I knew how old you were, but if your best chance for success and what I think you're looking for is like, can you just find the college bars around there? Like, how can you like that a little bit easier for you? If you're in your late 20s, it's probably fine. If you're in your mid 30s, that's a little bit more creepy.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But that's that's going to be because there's definitely going to be there's going to be girls studying abroad there. Who knows? Like, you'd probably be pretty successful. But if you're a little older, that's kind of weird. Where do you think solo male ranks on the uh on the league of nations out there like is that solo male american do you think are we still like a one seed you think or have we dropped what are you asking i mean like you're a solo male american in venice right like i don't know like is it better to be a solo american dude in venice or like
Starting point is 00:50:05 dublin well i guess you could speak the language so i'm like france probably not i thought i thought the french are pretty tired of us i don't know these are just all stuff i've heard but i'm wondering like is that is that a good spot to be like is that an attribute or is it more of like a not an attribute if you're there the anti-american thing is far more of like a parisian thing that is a countrywide thing at least based on my experience but then you'll even have people like when i was different different parts of france they're like dude parisians don't even like us so that's a that's a paris thing so they may you may go there and feel like an asshole and i haven't spent any time
Starting point is 00:50:38 there so but from what i've experienced like going into a thing like, oh, is everybody going to be a dick or whatever? You don't even notice it, at least the places that I've been. Italy felt like there were more people there. I mean, Dublin was a layup. Dublin, I got invited to go to a late night, but I had a seven hour flight to Hartford the next day. And I just went, and I was out by myself. It was actually my birthday. I had a 23 hour layover in Dublin from Naples. So they didn't on, I checked a bag and they wouldn't let me get it. So I had to go to like a fucking convenience store. All I had was one change of shirt. I grabbed a hotel and then I walked around Dublin. I checked out the university, which was really, really cool. And then I was like, all right, I'm just going to take in all this music. And it was,
Starting point is 00:51:24 it was awesome, but it feels far less foreign than other places, really cool. And then I was like, all right, I'm just going to take in all this music. And it was awesome, but it feels far less foreign than other places I've been. And then I ended up at some club that was inside of the hotel. I was like, I'll shut it down here. It's in my hotel. It's not that big of a deal. And I was playing it pretty steady because I knew I had that long flight the next day. And then these guys were like, no, no, we're going to this thing. But the thing is, Dublin closes early now. Guys are telling me when it used to stay open really, really late, the fights were just out of control,
Starting point is 00:51:52 which was the least shocking part of my research while I was there. So Australians just seem to kill it. I'll tell you that right now. Those guys have superpowers. They can go anywhere because they just – I think so. I think you're right. Yeah, they're rowdy enough. The accent is cool enough.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's hard to check up on their stories. Yeah, nobody's quite probably did that you probably did that right yeah i feel like we spent a lot of time on this one with zero answer whatsoever should we just move on to another one sorry yeah yeah sorry dude good luck okay maybe this will be easier for us 27 years old 5' pounds. Not many gym stats, but huge cardio guy. Currently training for a half marathon NBD. Poor man's Marquis Teague. Oh, I like that. What's up team? Huge fan of the pod. I've been having some major problems in my room. Wait, poor man's Marquis Teague? Like the brother? Not even Jeff Teague? Yeah, but he was supposed to be a big deal. Yeah, he was supposed to be a really big deal. yeah but he was supposed to be a big deal yeah he was supposed to be a really big deal um but he was not but i love the i love the humility um let me preface this with uh i'm not really the
Starting point is 00:52:53 confrontational type back in october i moved in with one buddy let's call him nico and then his friend from work let's call him drake or wait are these lyrics i don't know you're my lyrics guy i don't think so i'm sure i'm your i'm by the way i'm your like 2000 to 2014 lyrics guy yeah this is just in case there was anything yeah kyle would be all over it he's like uh that's from the game's second cd yeah that's lloyd banks yeah sorry lloyd banks underrated anyway don't derail this steve sorry i would i was prior living on my own and um living on my own and paying way too much in rent for my space so i asked nico if he wanted to move out with me and he said yes claiming drake was also ready to move out the drake thing throws me off a bit here, but let's keep going. Now, after months of haphazard looking with the two, we finally
Starting point is 00:53:48 found our place. We're moving into a three-bedroom. We were moving into a three-bedroom, two-bath, pretty sweet spot. It was further away from work for me with the amount I'm saving on rent, splitting it three ways. I really didn't mind. Time to pay rent comes around and Drake has not paid his amount. Nico was way closer with Drake than he was with me, so I asked Nico to handle it. Nico reports back that Drake claims he got into a really bad car accident and is having some difficulties paying it back, so I try and be fair and cover him for the month. All right. Well, we already know this is a fucking disaster. A few more months go by, and now we're in the present where Drake has not paid a penny for rent or any utilities. I've had to cover him for months
Starting point is 00:54:22 now, and I'm paying significantly more than when I was living by myself. This has become a major point of contention for myself and Nico, where I'm now telling Nico, if he's not going to handle this with his friends, he needs to split what I've paid with him, where he claims his own financial struggles. I'm growing more and more concerned Drake will never pay because anytime he's pressed for the money, he claims issues with Zelle Venmo payouts and what he should be able to send versus what he can send this day well here's the thing venmo doesn't limit you at zero yeah okay so sorry dude it might be a shady thing if you can't use venmo right now it's probably because you were fucking around really it's that's all you're lying even worse on or you're lying i've had a few venmo transactions where you go hey like i can
Starting point is 00:55:04 only send this much today and then you're gonna let me had a few venmo transactions where you go hey like i can only send this much today and then you're gonna let me clear it out where i can but when it's when you've had zero coming in for multiple months and he's still blaming zell and venmo if you can't send nine hundred dollars that's because you're fucking around or you're lying and you don't have nine hundred dollars it's not clearly he's a deadbeat and he's lying he saw this as an opportunity to get away with this shit and i don't even know why we're getting an email about it because you already know what the answer is and i don't know what answer you expect to get from us so let's just finish every conversation is met with some sort
Starting point is 00:55:29 of emotional backstory as well too by the way if you got into a car accident while you lived with him and he couldn't pay rent wouldn't you be more aware of this car accident i was gonna ask like is there any evidence does he have some bumps and bruises on him like what's going on it's like a doctor's appointments have you seen him imagine not getting in a car accident imagine saying hey i can't pay rent i got in this nasty accident when you didn't and just being like that aggressive with the lie that you're like dude terrible terrible accident he's like well where's your car like oh we got it fixed already like i'm broke two days ago what's going on yeah uh i don't want to be an asshole i don't think you would be here man uh but i also can't be held responsible to cover for this guy
Starting point is 00:56:11 i'm not even friends with any suggestions how to move forward would be greatly appreciated yes fucking stand up for yourself you're getting played this guy's lying to you yeah bounce leave i mean your name is probably on the lease try to find a way to get out of it fuck both of these guys especially the landlord yeah like say hey like i'm trying to pay like these guys are playing around i'm trying to get out great yeah i mean you might have a like there's no reconciliation here you were getting absolutely taken advantage of and if this email is real um the fact that you had to email this to us where it makes it think that you don't really know how you should play it or what the conclusion is is probably maybe even more alarming and why this
Starting point is 00:56:53 happened to you in the first place but this should be although a costly lesson now this should be a major lesson in your life where you go okay i mean shit like this happens to everybody but i really don't like that you're even asking us there's there's only one move look out for yourself these guys don't give a fuck about you so why are you even remotely understanding of any other scenario other than the bad one yeah i mean i don't know how you guys pay your rent if it's like you know if you guys send your portions in or if it's like you know know, they give you the money and you, and you send in or whatever, because that my, my 19 year old apartment situation was we paid our rent separately. So he like, wasn't paying. So the, the landlord came to me and he's like, all right, what do you
Starting point is 00:57:38 want to do here? It's like, this guy's not paying you're paying. Like, do you want to break this lease? And that's how I got out of it. But you know, so I looked at it that way, but then he wasn't paying his, you know, electric half. So I was like, well, if he's not paying and I'm not paying it. So I, I ended up leaving with like a thousand dollars to the electric company that I was like, wait, what do you mean? So, but that's me being 19. But if it's like, if you guys pay this separately, you just don't cover it. That's cool. But if they're like subtenants and it's a whole thing, like you just have to find the fastest way to get out of there because it's going to cost you less money.
Starting point is 00:58:10 If you break this lease than if you just keep hemorrhaging with these two bums, you know, I would say very, very few actions are off the table. Yes. Other than like beating the shit out of them or committing a crime, like you can do kind of whatever you need to do to get out of this
Starting point is 00:58:22 situation. And I think the easiest one is talk to the landlord, say, I'm trying to pay, but these guys are giving me the runaround. I'm trying to get out, get ahead of the situation, make sure he knows you're the good guy. And hopefully he has some sort of conscience and helps you out a little bit. Yeah. I don't... Stuff happens to all of us and you learn from it.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And hopefully you learn from it and hopefully you learn from this you know like look man the the living situations when you're young and you're just like oh hey i know a guy like oh this is great okay cool yeah yeah no problem it's great and then you know it's just so rare that especially when you're having three or four guys live in the same place and you don't know each other you know that's one of the great things about college is you had you you know, decent enough of a crew or there was some satellite dudes, you know, shared electrons of friendship where you were like, oh, you're going to that city or whatever. Like there's at least some commonality about it and you feel like you're going into it. But when you go into these things completely blind, you know, I don't know what the percentage is on it but there's just a greater chance for this kind of stuff happening but you you trying to figure out like hey i wonder what's
Starting point is 00:59:29 going to happen here's exactly what's going to happen you're going to get screwed the longer you stay in this yeah there's no he hasn't given you a dollar and he's still walking in the apartment being like hey gang how's your day. Like, I can't stand that person. That would be okay. Like, I would be so upset. Fist clenched. If I was. When you hear that fucking keys jingling, you're like.
Starting point is 00:59:52 No, but I'm talking about, like, say I was in a financial situation. Because I have been in that before. I think there was a stretch. Like, I don't know. I don't know if I can say I was cut off. But I was basically cut off for a little bit. And, you know, I was like, hey, guys. Like was cut off, but I was basically cut off for a little bit. And I was like, hey guys, you're in college. And I was like, I'm not quite sure I'm going to be able to cover rent.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And then you know the guys are having a meeting about you. But what I wouldn't do is be like, oh, this is sweet. Save 400 bucks this month because of these dickheads. I just couldn't ever get there. I would feel terrible and I would find a way, which I did. You just got to find a way. And this guy doesn't care. I mean, you didn't even mention if he was working or not. So, all right.
Starting point is 01:00:31 How about one, one quick one here? Yeah. You want to do that? Yeah. I can't believe how many parenting ones we have lately. This is crazy. This is crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Don't, I guess I'm not going to keep reading them. Yeah, I know. I'm just, it's crazy. Who is like, I't, I guess I'm not going to keep reading them. Yeah, I know. I'm just, it's crazy. Who is like, I wonder what these guys think,
Starting point is 01:00:49 but the, but put their heads together. Well, I don't know. We're talking toddlers, right? Infants. I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:55 I don't really know what we could do other than like cousins and sisters, babies or whatever. Like what the, what are we supposed to do? All right, we'll do a, we'll do this gym one because you know i
Starting point is 01:01:07 might want to save this for uh there's a guy i want to have i want to have a specific workout life advice with our chad wesley smith guy i gotta have him on we just keep i just keep forgetting to send out how do we do that um all right if you have workout questions life advice related workout questions for somebody who actually does it and trains n athletes, he's a beast of a guy. And he's been super nice to the show and super nice to me, invited me out for a round of golf where I just changed my shafts and did not play well. It's the worst round I played all year. Not that I'm good, but that was pretty fucking embarrassing considering I think I was playing with a guy who had the course record on top of everything else. So that was pretty embarrassing considering i think i was playing with a guy who had the course record on top of everything else so that was fun but uh let's save all the workout ones for him and read one here all right pick up hoop shut down by old head 6-2 200 skinny fat player comp kyle
Starting point is 01:01:57 anderson max bench kyle anderson do you think he's the most player comped guy it's the most one i've heard i think i really do do you think it's the most? Max Bench, nonexistent in a bad way. Just left pickup hoops at 24-hour on Saturday afternoon. We hit fives and a few waiting for the next game. A little over an hour into the run, a dad showed up with his son to shoot around. When the possession changed, we crossed back over to their side of the court. He seemed stunned we were running full court and just kept shooting.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Whoa. After this continued for a few possessions, he disappeared. He came back five minutes later with the front desk guy and they stopped our game. Front desk guy told us 13 guys who had the court for an hour already that if there were other people in the gym, we had to take our game down to half court. After pretty much everybody talked some shit to the dad, we ended our game and everybody filtered out and went home. Looking back, should we have just waited for the front desk guy to leave and then go back to full court run? Should we have cut it down to half court or are we right to just call it off and concede to the old head? Important note, guy appeared to not speak much English and definitely didn't understand pickup etiquette. All right, well, there we go.
Starting point is 01:02:58 That's what happened here. Wondering what you guys would have done in this situation. I have a feeling I know what Rosillo is going to say. Thanks, boys. Love the show. P.S. Kyle, give Blade my best. He's going to love that. This kind of sucks because I do sympathize with the dad a little bit. I'm not saying it's the right call, but I don't know. Maybe he doesn't
Starting point is 01:03:20 have a ton of time to play hoops with his son, try to figure some stuff out, let him shoot, teach him up a little bit. It's the wrong call. I'm telling you that it sucks at the wrong call. I would be mad if I was playing the full, but I do sympathize a little bit with the dad. This is like,
Starting point is 01:03:33 I've seen a bunch of videos recently. I don't know why. Maybe my algorithm is just showing a bunch of like kids on scooters, getting just fucking wrecked by some dude coming down like a half pipe at the public skate park and like it's like some kid in the mind it's like several different versions it's not the same one i'm sure you've seen it there's a couple viral ones can i just say though once you go down that rabbit hole of watching a couple fucked up videos on instagram they just flood you with crazy content and then they'll give you the ones that are like you know you have to click to
Starting point is 01:04:04 actually watch the video because it's like a warning label and you're like, well, what am I going to not watch the video now? I'm not going to see what's behind the screen. Come on. It's a real slippery slope because now that's my whole feed is just like crazy stuff that's happening and I don't like it but I'm like kind of addicted to it. This is not through me seeking stuff out
Starting point is 01:04:20 but it's just kind of my pie chart now is like it's like fights cringe content, which I'm trying to get off. It's just like of my pie chart now is like, it's like fights, uh, cringe content, which I'm trying to get off. It's just like, I liked one thing that was like, Oh, this is tough to watch.
Starting point is 01:04:29 So it's that fights, uh, kids getting hurt and drunk people doing things and like a soprano stuff. That's like, it's like, and like maybe it's somebody from high school, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 01:04:39 uh, I just try to stay off Instagram. It's all buddy from home in the mix. He's in the mix. Dropped into the tossed salad of content. Oh, there's Brian. There you go. Yeah, look. Oh, he's smoking a butt again.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Cool. Mine's Troy Aikman peck deck routine now. It's nonstop. Troy Aikman. There's like hybrid Troy Aikman accounts that I didn't even follow that are just all over me now after last week. So, look, I have no sympathy here. You can't do this. you can't do this you can't do this you could never do this this isn't about fatherhood this isn't about bonding with your child like this is absurd the only thing that allows a slight out here is that the guy was just from another country
Starting point is 01:05:22 you said didn't speak much English, just had no idea. But what was he doing prior to when you guys are running back and forth? If he knows enough about basketball to want to shoot around with his son, I don't think they bought a ball that day. So did he know what he was doing and then told on you? People can get really weird with their kids at a run. I had it happen pretty recently where we were all getting ready to play and a guy showed up to like take his son through
Starting point is 01:05:51 shooting drills and we were like what the fuck is this man and every no one was really quite enough into it to make a big stink out of it i already worked out so i was like whatever i'm not gonna i'm not gonna make a big deal out of us. But you've got to have some stones to roll up where guys are ready to play full court and you're just going to say, no, sorry. We're running through drills. Go outside, especially in California. Find a park.
Starting point is 01:06:17 There's a place to go do it. Older guys probably want to run indoors and not have to run around on the asphalt anymore. And you're going to do something like that. It's just really, really selfish. This guy may have been completely clueless, just not understood whatsoever. If your young guy's getting confrontational, then he thinks he has to go to the staff and the whole thing. The staff guy should have known better. I can't think of any gym that's real. And you said it's a 24-hour fitness where if people were running full court, that the person who worked there would be like no you actually have to let a guy and his kid take up the whole thing and now you have to play half court
Starting point is 01:06:49 while all these people are waiting there's nothing worse than five on five half court it's the worst so uh even internationally like majority rules right i mean everybody like there's 13 people that want to do this there's two people that want to do that raise your hand do you want to watch remember the titans or do you want to watch titanic There's two people that want to do that. Raise your hand. Do you want to watch Remember the Titans or do you want to watch Titanic? We're watching Remember the Titans again. That's how it goes. Like, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Like, at this point, it's like, it's just the eyes have it, right? So I think he knew what he was doing. I don't think you can really, you don't want to make an enemy out of the front desk guy. I mean, some guys get a little chippy. They're like, well, guess whose membership's not getting renewed or something.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, I know you don't want to do that, but I think somebody could have been like, Hey man, just for future reference. Are you saying that like dudes have an hour and then all of a sudden one half goes to whoever's wandering around the gym and might like to put a shot up. So maybe it's good to, maybe it's good to level-headedly go up to the front desk guy. If he's the one who's always there and then just be like, Hey, I just want to get a clear understanding of what happened here because we're, you know, we just, what's the one who's always there and then just be like hey i just want to get a clear understanding of what happened here because we're you know we're just what's the standard like what should we expect moving do we set a timer and then anybody who wants to run laps has to you know what i would not have done though is i don't think you want to yell at anybody in front of
Starting point is 01:07:57 no correct because then the kid who doesn't maybe know even remotely what the hell's going on because his dad's he's just following his dad's lead like as mad as you might be and i know i wouldn't love it i would like to think that most people would be smart enough to be like hey there's still a kid involved here so don't get chesty with the dad in front of the kid um and it may be just a one-time loss where you go hey remember that time that that happened right and then you go to somebody who actually knows what the hell's going on and be like you can't possibly think that that's the right policy. That no matter what, imagine now from, imagine me just wanting to get shots up. And it's a full court game with like real dudes out there.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And I just start bombing away from three going, hey, dude, you guys are going to cut it down to half court. But it's different for you versus like the kid. Like, that's why I'm just, I'm trying to leave a sliver of something open for like all right maybe the guy thought about the outside thing maybe I don't know something didn't work out with that but like if he wants to just go and get up shots with his son have some quality you know father-son time like what's he supposed to do just say hey sorry kid we got to go home like the kid's not gonna play it's not the same thing but it's it's the the act of okay defensive rebound outlet they've now set up in the half court. We're good.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Sorry, your game is now half court, mid-game. What would chirping guy Steve, what would Quintip X Steve do? Oh, I would not have, I'm telling you right now, I would not have handled this at all. But, you know, now that I'm a father, I don't know, I'm just trying to think of like, what is he supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:09:22 Because did you just go home then, the guy? Like, you just can't, you're just not going to be able to shoot? Because you just go home. Then the guy like you just can't. You're just not going to be able to shoot around with your kid. Like you're kind of shit out of luck. Practice passes over there. Go home. Go outside. Passes, son.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Get him. Yeah. Maybe some treadmill work. Those are always empty. This is just cone days. Yeah. We're going to do cone drills, dribbling drills outside. We're going to go in the parking lot.
Starting point is 01:09:42 We're going to practice cuts. No ball. Bobby Knight style. No ball. Find four going to go in the parking lot. We're going to practice cuts. No ball. Bobby Knight style. No ball. Find four other guys. Motion offense. Yeah. Find three other guys.
Starting point is 01:09:50 That would be awesome. Imaginary number two guy. Set a screen for him. If you guys, after your run was done, you went outside and the guy was in the parking lot with his son
Starting point is 01:10:00 just doing cone drills with no ball, I'd actually be like, you know what? Next time, you could have free reign at the court. I respect the out of this i'd give him my sneakers i'd be like these are for you let me know if you're shooting shirt well are you guys here tomorrow i'll rebound for you i'm willing to take one shot uh all right that'll do it for us thanks
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