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The Three Questions with Andy Richter - Mary Lynn Rajskub

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Actress and comedian Mary Lynn Rajskub ("24," "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia") and her furry friend Leo join Andy Richter to discuss whether you should track your kid’s location, the difference ...between dogs and cats, their similar Midwestern upbringings, her new Netflix show "North of North," and much more.Do you want to talk to Andy live on SiriusXM’s Conan O’Brien Radio? Leave a voicemail at 855-266-2604 or fill out our Google Form at BIT.LY/CALLANDYRICHTER. Listen to "The Andy Richter Call-In Show" every Wednesday at 1pm Pacific on SiriusXM's Conan O'Brien Channel.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody, welcome back to The Three Questions. I'm your host Andy Richter and today I am talking to my old friend, actress and comedian Mary Lynn Rice-Cubb. You know her from 24, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Mr. Show, her stand-up and much more. You can see her now in the Netflix series North of North. And remember, you can hear the Andy Richter call-in show every Wednesday live at 1 p.m. on Conan O'Brien radio on Sirius XM. And if you want to join the conversation, you can find the number and submission form in the description of this episode.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Now here's my conversation with Mary Lynn Rice-Cup. Well, Marilyn Ricekepp has brought her dog, Leo. And Leo is going to be- He's humongous. Her giant dog- He's physically moving my chair underneath me right now. He looks like he's part Golden Retriever, part Ottoman. Yeah. Because he is a big wooly boy.
Starting point is 00:01:06 That's a good point. I forgot about the Ottoman breed. That is correct. Does he hold still long enough that you can put your feet up on him? He does. Actually, he's very mellow. He's just hype right now because this is the first podcast studio he's been in. Really?
Starting point is 00:01:22 Yeah. I'm having some work done at my house and the Russian guy's son Alex is afraid of him. Oh, and so I thought it best Wow, I thought it's worse than ask and you guys said yes Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like I said, I bring my dog in every now and then I haven't brought her in in a while though What kind of dog is the new dog? We have I have two dogs. I have the big one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Sure. I showed you the picture of my big girl, Daisy. Uh, but we have a new one because my wife had a dog that, uh, we had to put down cause of cancer back in September. And then we were fostering a number of dogs, um, test driving basically. I mean, a couple were just, we knew we weren't gonna keep them, they were just fostering them until they found homes for them. But there was also a couple that was like,
Starting point is 00:02:12 like, oh, what a sweetie, bring him in. And then a day later, get this fucking thing out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just. What would they do? There was one that barked literally all night long. That is tough. Like would not stay in the crate. So all right, and it's a little dog, but you know,
Starting point is 00:02:28 and my big dog sleeps at the foot of our bed and this dog about every hour on the hour would have to go and bark at her. Like just to let her know. Oh no. Like that she was there, I guess, I don't know. That's tough. So, but now we have a little girl, she's a poodle mix.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I love a poodle. And she's like seven pounds, and I've never been a little dog person, and I am an absolute moron over this dog. I am so in love with this silly little puff ball. She's just really sweet. And what's really most endearing about her is that she came to us almost like feral,
Starting point is 00:03:12 except for like all she knew how to do was snuggle. Like, you know, but you put a leash on her and she'd just pancake flat. Oh. Poo and pee everywhere. Just like while you're playing with her, just like, hold on a second. Oh, okay, let's get back to playing.
Starting point is 00:03:27 How old is she? She's like 10 months old, they think. Just because of her adult teeth. So she can be corrected. And she has been, she's tried every sort of thing she's needed to learn. Because we've only had her a couple of months. She's gotten, you know, she figured out the dog door.
Starting point is 00:03:43 She figured out she's gotta go outside. Pools are smart. I love a pool. And up and down, like we have steep old, it's an old house. And she would, at first was afraid of the stairs, just at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Then she started going up the stairs, but not going down the stairs. God, you love her so much. So then she finally, she finally figured out. She can't go down the stairs. She finally figured out coming down the stairs. So now you don't have to, you know, cause she'd get up there and then whine like I'm trapped upstairs.
Starting point is 00:04:10 So I'd have to go get her. But yeah, no, it's just, you know, I, and there are just times when I just have these, I just think like seven pounds of dog and I'm just like, Oh my God, my life is so much better now. This little furry thing. Yeah, I lost my cat to cancer too. Let's start out strong on the paw. Let's start out. Let's go right in.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And I asked you about your cat, because your cat was like, it looked like a big jungle cat, like a, uh, a conical or something. Yes, he was an exotic cat. Uh, they're called Savannah. And they're part... And how much did he weigh? He was... He was big.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I don't know how much he weighed. Because you can't really touch him and take him to the... Yeah, you take him to the vet, which was part of, towards the end, the tech would be like, I'm gonna take his... I'm like, you are not going to take his temperature or touch him. Someone's got about a second and a half before the gloves or the, or a sedation,
Starting point is 00:05:11 like let's wait for the doctor. You're not getting any vitals. He is not a calm cat. But I thought he just swallowed something. And then the vet was like, the first vet who I didn't know, who hadn't seen the cat before, looked at me and was
Starting point is 00:05:26 like, I'm gonna rip the band-aid off. There's a mass on his chest. And he looked at me, because he knew that I was gonna be heartbroken and then go to a couple of doctors and I just kept... For second and third opinions. Yeah. And I kept thinking back to like, ugh. Because of course, other places are like, yeah, we'll open him up for 20 grand and give him treatment.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And the very first doctor was like, you're not gonna wanna do any of that. To him, to this cat, to cats in general, and then to not know that it will even help. So my first joke, I mean, it's hard to like transition into a cat joke on stage, doing standup cat death joke, but is that I, well, I do all the buildup at first.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's my ex's cat. I ended up with him, all the trials and tribulations. I took him for granted. So I let the audience get to know this cat. And I was just like... Early on, was the cat like a repress, like did it represent your ex? So did you have like resentment towards it?
Starting point is 00:06:23 Not kind of, I would just make fun of it like, ugh, like take it for granted, like, ugh, this cat. Cats live for 20 years. But what I didn't realize is, I didn't realize until after the cat passed, I was counting on the cat to live 20 years. I was subconsciously going, the cat's gonna get me through
Starting point is 00:06:40 when I don't have him anymore, because that's my dog. So the morning after the cat died, I see the dog and I'm like, we don't really have anything in common. That was the first thing I thought. And so that- I better get to know you now.
Starting point is 00:06:55 The bit is evolving into like, the dog is like a husband who just wants a hot dog and the cat was my gay best friend who really looked out for me. Like the cat was up before I was. The cat was like, I had a whole language with him. The cat cared. The cat was like, are you gonna wear that?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Meanwhile, the dog, can we get a hot dog? I'm like, are you even listening to me? But yeah, that very first, the seed of it was the genuine, like, I was in so much mourning, so much grief that I said, we don't have anything in common anymore, dumb dog. Dumb dog. But yeah, I didn't realize I was counting on the cat
Starting point is 00:07:34 and he was only nine, but I guess when you have like a freaking specialty cat, like that, they're not mutts, so their immune is not as strong. Right, they have genetic faults. And the vet was like, he's nine, and I'm like, yeah, he's only nine. Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I didn't, I thought he had something lodged in his stomach. He's like, yeah, he's dying, so. Wow. And did he say that like nine is a normal age for? No, he said it was old, yeah. Yeah, yeah. For it to have problems. Oh, wow said it was old? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. For her to have problems and... Oh, wow. I wasn't expecting that at all.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah. See, that's the problem with loving things. They fuck you over. It really is. Every time. They fuck you over. Kids, just don't. Just hold that love in your heart. Don't give it away. Don't give it away. Unless it's Jesus.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I asked my son if he's, like, very focused on basketball, and I'm like, are you gonna get a girlfriend? He's 16. Why? It's just gonna end. I was like. Wow! I was not,
Starting point is 00:08:34 cause this whole time I just knew he wasn't, he had a moment maybe and then he's just not focused on it. What do you mean? He had a moment where he was expressing interest in girls? Yeah, like him and his group of friends. Like he never directly talked, but I just knew they were all whatever,
Starting point is 00:08:51 parties with boys and girls. And then something switched in him and he's just really focused on basketball. And so I already kind of know the answer because I can tell by the way he's, you know, they don't really go out that much. If he goes to a party, I'm like, ooh, stay out son. Like it's just a different world, you know, he's in his room talking to his friends or gaming and, and, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:16 I was not expecting, I was expecting him to be like, no, I'm not into that, but not, it's not going to last. Yeah, yeah. Damn, what happened already? He gets that from me. Well, when I was young, because my mom was divorced twice, and she divorced my stepdad, like, it started falling apart when I was, like, probably 13, something like that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And so my early dating, like, I would put so much pressure on it, because I was just so not going to get involved in a bad relationship, that I'm, you know, like, 17 and going out on a date and then, like, she does something kind of slightly annoying or just, you know, like, expresses an interest in something that I'm like, I don't fucking care about that. And I'm like, well, why not just pull the plug on this? It's not going anywhere.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Maybe he could talk to my son, that fresh attitude. Yeah, well, the thing was is, I mean, and he'll figure it out himself. I realized I was never gonna get laid with that attitude. Honestly, that was like, it was a big, where I was like, I have, and I'm not like I was just gonna get laid with that attitude. Honestly, that was like, it was a big, where I was like, I have, and I'm not like, I was just out for tail, but it's just like, I was like, this is not working for me.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Like, you know. Yeah, you do, you know, I'm not a guy. As I can talk about guys and completely... Sure, of course, you can talk about whatever you want. ...and act that I, you know, like I know, but yeah, you gotta learn how to fucking act. Yeah, yeah. Okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You gotta grow up. Yeah. Learn how to listen ever so slightly. Yes. A little bit actually goes a long way with the ladies. Surprisingly. Yeah. Give them a little morsel.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Ugh, we'll chew on that for days. Yeah, just listen. It's the best gimmick, listening. Yeah, yeah. Oh my days. Yeah, just listen. It's the best gimmick, listening. Oh my God. Just listen. Yeah, just listen, you know? It's fantastic. Pretend you care.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I also too, like, I never really asked my kids about their dating or anything. Do you steer pretty clear of that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because I just feel like, I just imagine like my mom or my dad going, are you dating?
Starting point is 00:11:35 And it makes my skin crawl. So I just think, it's gotta be the same. Same, even though I ask him. Every once in a blue moon, it'll come out of my mouth and then I don't follow up. Because you can't help yourself. Yeah, but yeah, no, I don't really ask. Because you can't help yourself. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, I don't really ask.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. And like I said, if I see, you know, look at my little tracking app and then, ooh, they went to someone else's house. Exciting. Oh, you do track him? Yeah. Yeah. You kind of got him.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I mean, you kind of got him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's about to get his driver's license. He should get it in June and I'm I'm probably still gonna track him even if he even more so in a way Is he and then I'm like, oh stop when he goes to college, but then that'll just be nostalgia tracking sure No, you know in a nursing home bed tracking him to and from yeah. Yeah, it's kind of more like that It's just like okay. There you are. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of more like that. It's just like, okay. There you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. It's not really. Until he figures out how to turn it off on his phone. Oh, he's done that. Yeah, yeah. And he got yelled at for that. Oh, did he? Yeah, you can't.
Starting point is 00:12:35 He's probably murdering somebody. Yeah, just real quick for the murder and then turn it back on. Yeah, yeah, just a quick murder and then turn it back on. I don't want my mom to know I'm murdering. I mean, I'm not really interested in tracking him. Right. But, you know, when you gotta go with what's,
Starting point is 00:12:52 when in Rome, our world of cell phones. Too many forensic files and then, you know, it's like, you know, I gotta find out where that kid is. But we do everything, it's, I'll text him and he's upstairs, you know? It's just the way of the world now. More than like thinking he's murdering or being murdered. It's just the tech of it, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It's too easy. I don't know. It can replace a conversation sometimes. Like, oh, okay, I know he's made it there or whatever. Do you think that- It's too much. There should be, there should be him just out there. More distance, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Because do you think there's like a qualitative difference between your relationship with him and your relationship with your parents? Because you grew up in Detroit, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, did you grow up in like Detroit, Detroit? In the suburbs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:47 So it's not- White flight. Yeah, yeah. It's white flight Detroit. Cause you know, Detroit is many different things. Yes. But I mean- Many different things.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It's a driving town. Did you have, you know, like a long leash that they, you know- Yeah, I had a, you don't like that we're talking? You think that you should get something for it? Yeah, Leo just interrupted the conversation with a paw. He's like, well, how are you guys talking and I'm not getting anything? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:14:14 All right, I'm gonna give in to you. But she's giving him a treat out of her fanny pack. Hit the road. By the end of this, I'm gonna want one of those. You're doing really good in the conversation. Thank you, thank you. I read my notes. It was completely different, right?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, yeah. It was completely different. Yeah. I mean, my parents were very controlling, I would say, but yet on the other hand, I would just go and be gone. Yeah. So it doesn't really add up. When you went and were gone, was it against their will?
Starting point is 00:14:46 Like, was it against, like, a strict rule to not leave the house and then you'd climb out a window or something? No, it was... I was always very reasonable, or I had jobs waiting tables, and I was like, hey, if I can stay out till 1 a.m. waiting tables, I can stay out till 1 a.m. And I just didn't do much when I was his age. I just would go over my boyfriend's house for hours?
Starting point is 00:15:13 Or it was the thing of being outside for hours when you're younger and them not really knowing where you are? I guess that's it. It was never- Yeah, they didn't have any choice. Yeah, they didn't have any choice. And also, don't you feel too like you gotta,
Starting point is 00:15:28 like part of your job is to, I always think like my job as a parent is to make myself obsolete in some ways. Yeah. You know, like I'm trying to get them to be. How old are your kids? 24, 19 and five. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Because I got a new one. Yeah. Can't you tell my love's a grown one? Yeah, you do. Because I got a grown up, you know, and he's living with me. But it is weird because there are, and I'm not, I'm also not like, like he one time when he was lamenting not getting enough done, he was like,
Starting point is 00:16:13 I wish you'd kind of just been a little harder on me. Yeah, my son has said that to me, not in a while, but it's been a couple of years since I've heard this, but he used to say to me all the time, you always say yes to everything. I'm like, why not? Yeah, yeah. Like you're a good kid, you get good grades.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like, why would I say no? Yeah, yeah. Or also like he's not, he plays basketball, he wears sweat. I'm like, yeah, you want shoes? Yeah. Yeah, well, what was he asking for that he thought he should be denied. I don't know Yeah, I guess I've found a way to like get the guilt in there
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, you know me and my ex's childhood that the Catholic guilt gets in there. No matter what right? I? Don't know cuz I'm the one that thinks it's like normal stuff to say yes to yeah Yeah, was it normal stuff for your parents to say yes to? Or are you working in reaction to them in any way? I think I'm working in reaction a little bit. Yeah. I don't think I was denied so much as just stuff wasn't available and I didn't ask. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't feel like I was, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I don't know if he wants to go somewhere, I guess, or if he wants a certain thing to eat, or. You know what? Can I buy this game for $5? Yeah. Yeah, it also, they want, like, they wanna know, and this is, I see this so much now, because, you know, I got the older kids
Starting point is 00:17:41 and now I got a five-year-old. And she, like, was, I definitely came into her life and there was somebody that was not gonna negotiate that after a few, like I'm not going to bed, like four of them, it's like, no, I'm gonna pick you up and take you to bed. But she was not getting that before. So she kinda was, she was like two and a half,
Starting point is 00:18:06 and by the time I moved in, she was two and a half, and she was sort of in charge of the household. I think we have similar Midwest upbringings, and also similar creatives in however we grew up and managed to have our success that were sort of like easy going, but similar. The hammer will come down. Yeah, that's I would say I'm the hammer.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Or if it's on the fourth or fifth time and it's like, we're not doing this where we go back and forth and you're a child and you don't, yeah, I have that big time. I have that common sense. So maybe that's also why I say yes, because, you know, as you get to an adult and you're like, I'm like way more like them than I thought I was, in terms of like, especially how to raise a kid. Sometimes I hear myself on tape and just my voice sounding like my mother or my father.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm just like, oh my God. I remember I had this friend who, she was like my friend who would read my tarot cards and would always have, was into the occult and stuff. Crystals. Yeah, and I would always get my fix and have great conversations with her. We had kids around the same time and I remember going to her house and her kid was like up at midnight, was like five and in their bed, and I was like... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Like, we were not really friends after that. And I didn't, on purpose, I was just like, I can't hang with this, and I'm not gonna correct you, but I'm just gonna slowly tiptoe back because this does not align. I can't be around it. Which weirdly, her child was more sensitive and mine was more, he's always been the more hot headed, but he's also had a more disciplined, structured, which to me is just like common
Starting point is 00:19:59 sense stuff. Right. It's not overly, but yeah, when I see people start to do stuff where I'm just like, why would you do that? Why would your kid be up all night? Why would your kid, you're just making it harder on everybody. And you're right. It wasn't like, yes, I passed judgment, but I passed judgment on tons of shit, you know. Upon opening my eyes.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Before the eyes are even open, I've already. But I mean, I have friends that I'm like, I wouldn't do that if I were you. But we continue to be friends, and I know I can just file that away in my, I'm the only one who gives a shit about this file. Right. But with parenting, it definitely is like,
Starting point is 00:20:39 I cannot be around this. Like it's, you know, it's like when you see somebody, I was at the Dodger game and there was a guy who had a toddler on his shoulders and was dancing right by the end edge of the loge. Like, you know, like at the front railing with a 30 foot drop. And then I just, I had to like turn away because I just was like, you know, I don't know if it's my mother or whatever, but I was just gonna be like, get that baby away from that railing, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:11 because it was freaking me out. And it's the same thing. I can't be in somebody's house when there's that much bad parenting going on. Cause you see the kid taking over and it's just, it's not a good... And what I was saying too is like my five-year-old now, because she doesn't get yelled at a lot, you know, but there are definitely times where, and there, you know, and like I've said before,
Starting point is 00:21:35 like there's not corporal punishment in our house except for occasionally on the eardrums. Like I will yell. Like I will be the yelly Dad when it's time for that. Yeah. And I without, almost without fail, after I yell at her and she's shocked and cries and it's terrible, within five minutes she comes to me for like a hug and a snuggle. Yeah. Like she's she's pissed at me, pissed at me, pissed at me. And then it's like, okay, I got, you know, like it's like, it's so obvious that there's like,
Starting point is 00:22:11 it's her going like, I needed that. Thanks buddy. Like I was going off the rails and you know, you kicked me back into space, you know. I had that just this morning and my God, he would kill me. The teen version of that, I won't get into that, but the whole drive, we were fighting. And I said, and it's very rare that we even,
Starting point is 00:22:31 and I said, you're being an a-hole. And I said, you need to adjust that attitude right now, real quick. And then the whole rest of the ride, it was silent, we're just fuming and I'm thinking of all the things. Right. And it's worked me up to like, I'm not yelling, I'm not having words and then I am. And then it's on. And then so it's silent.
Starting point is 00:22:52 And then we get to school, he's like, okay, bye, love you mom, which was the equivalent of the cuddle moment. I'm like, okay, bye, love you too. Yeah, that's over. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I one time told my son, and this was just, you know, this was like maybe four or five years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So he was in college. And I told him about, like, me and my ex-wife, I was like, you're being a dick to us. And he went, what? I said, no, you're being a dick. And he was like, really? I was like, yes, really. And I could tell it really, like calling him a dick,
Starting point is 00:23:28 sort of like, oh wow, okay, I'm sorry, I'll stop being a dick. But anyhow, do you feel, like are you happy with your parenting? Do you feel like? No, I mean, no. I just, don't you feel like there's gonna come a day where you can't tell,
Starting point is 00:23:50 because you are who you are and you're in it? There's gonna come a day where I'm gonna be like, oh, that's what I did to you. And I can't see what it is right now. Having older kids, they're definitely, I thought I'm doing a great job. And then they kind of got to be adults. And I found like, oh no, I kind of didn't do that right.
Starting point is 00:24:06 And I didn't do that right. What didn't you do right? I didn't set enough boundaries in terms of like, like being like the boss of their work life. You know, like being like, I expect results. That kind of like with homework and stuff. But both my kids were very achievement. They get great grades and everything.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But I like, I didn't, like as much as work has mattered to me, I never forced my kids to get a job, you know? And I've worked, I had a paper route when I was 13. And I found like, even though like sort of one of the themes of my life is like how the workplace is just a fucking cavalcade of humiliation, there's something to be learned from that. And that when you do get to a level of employment
Starting point is 00:25:01 that is enjoyable, you can appreciate it and you can know like, you can, and the way that you treat the people that you work with is the way that you show that appreciation because I see people at the higher levels of employment that I work in, who are babies and who treat people shitty and who have their bucket full of problems that they slosh all over everybody else.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And I just, you know, I think that like you need to eat shit in order to know, to then not feed shit to people, you know? And I don't know, and I just feel like I've made them, perhaps haven't prepared them enough for the workaday world and just kind of being on their own. I haven't engendered enough independence. I have in terms of like relationships and being a person
Starting point is 00:25:56 and being a nice person and being polite and being kind, but like in terms of the workday world, because I don't even, I'm not even sure how it all, that all works anyway. I had to get into fucking show business just to get away from having a job. Ugh, gross. Same, I mean, we have that in similar,
Starting point is 00:26:15 a similarity of, I've had a lot of bad jobs. I mean, I was able to get acting work fairly quickly, looking back on it. Like what age? Uh, 25. But like I was in Detroit at 21, because I remember I was working at a New Orleans style restaurant in downtown Detroit.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Of course. As you do. And I remember going across the street to the bar, and just, I mean, the people I worked with were a mess. And that was the first time I had been around. I was like, oh, you drink throughout your shift. Or like the manager that people would line up with their receipts to like reconcile your,
Starting point is 00:26:56 how many tables or whatever, and give you tips. And he would just be in his office like doing coke with the waitress and we're like, why are we all waiting to check out? It's because he didn't have a sense of time. And I didn't know any of that even existed. Anyway, that was side track. Yeah, no, I had an early restaurant job
Starting point is 00:27:16 and then went to parties and I was like, oh, these people are all doing cocaine all the time. Like, you know, it was like a step from childhood to adulthood. Like, I just was like know, it was like a step from childhood to adulthood. Like I just was like, these people are kind of weird sometimes. And then it's like, oh, it's cocaine. It's cocaine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Yeah. Oh, that explains why he flies off the handle. Yeah. Body just, yeah, little weird movements. That weird set jaw thing. He's high as hell. Yeah. But I remember they just plied me with so many shots and I, thank God, not that I hadn't done that
Starting point is 00:27:53 in other ways at other times, but in that moment, I had the wherewithal to not really drink any of that. To say no to, yeah, yeah. Like I had the ability to go, you don't do this. Do not drink seven shots of hard alcohol right now. And I just kept passing them to the one who was the lush. But I was in Detroit, then I went to San Francisco to finish art school.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And then a bunch of people in San Francisco, comedians that I met were coming to LA to do shows. So it was- What made you pick San Francisco? I had a friend in Detroit who had figured out that it was like a sister school thing where you could do a semester and get credit at the art school in Detroit. So you didn't have to apply or anything? She was in and she was going and something inside of me because again, I did everything
Starting point is 00:28:43 right, I'm a rule follower, I just want to do the right thing, I did everything right, I rule follower, just wanna do the right thing, I was commuting to school, I was waiting tables, I was charging my tuition, I was getting a part scholarship and this friend of mine said, oh yeah, there's a program where you can do, and I was just like blind with like, I gotta do that. And I don't know where that came from.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. And you hadn't had that urge before? You had that, you hadn't really, yeah, wow. And I didn't know until it was like so close to me. And I was just like, not only was I jealous, I was like, no, I have to do that too. I have to do that right now. And I figured out how to like get myself in somehow
Starting point is 00:29:19 because it was past all the application time and they let me do it. And we went together and it was past all the application time and they let me do it. And we went together and it was great. And so it was like, I just never went back to Detroit. And San Francisco was fun then too. It was so fun. It was magical. I just would ride public transportation was magic to me.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I was like, this is pretty, I would just ride the bus for fun. It is such a beautiful city. It's such a beautiful city. I just walk my ass off all day and all night. Had no money. Would just have a, oh, you looking for something better?
Starting point is 00:29:55 Leo's at the door. He's like, man, this is a bust. Ready to go, yeah. I only got one treat so far. I've heard all this before. I'm bored. Where's the hot dogs? Yeah, yeah, art school, San Francisco. Well, that, I mean, and how does that turn into comedy?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Did you just start... Had you had sort of performance urges? Yeah, I definitely was interested in acting and theater when I was in high school. And even younger than that, I had a childhood friend who kind of roped me into a theater class. And that was a huge discovery for me. And she got me into it.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I didn't know otherwise. And that sort of got me. And then in high school, it really was the only thing I was interested in was acting, but I didn't want to go to school for that because I thought it was lame. So I went to art school. So you went to art school. So you went to art school.
Starting point is 00:30:45 I have neat something to fall back on. I know, I'll paint. Yeah. Wow. But I mean, at the time, I just thought, fuck, I kind of fucked up because my best friends were like, I'm going to U of M. I didn't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I didn't take any AP courses. I don't know how to apply. Yeah. And then again, I just kind of like squeezed it through and was like, let me do some drawings and see if they'll... And it was great. It was like the best thing I ever did. I really needed it. Art school was great for me because I didn't know anything about art.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So just to learn the history and to be, kind of have that fire ignited. Yeah. And I, do you still paint? Do you still paint or draw? I'm picking it back up again. I did it when I first got to LA, and then I haven't for years, and I threw a bunch of stuff away,
Starting point is 00:31:34 but I've kind of recently started. It's been really fun. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, that is something nice about it, is that you can do it forever, you know? And it doesn't have to be for any reason. Yeah. And it's also too, it's not like, like if you like to write, but you don't really think
Starting point is 00:31:52 like I'm gonna write things that I'm gonna sell, you're just gonna write for the pleasure of writing. It just sits on a page, but you know, a painting, you can at least put it on the wall. And when people come over, you don't like just leave out your essays. Oh, are you reading that? Oh, how nice.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But you put a painting on the wall and everybody's like, oh, that's a nice painting. And yeah, I did that, you know. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, painting doesn't ask you to sit through the beginning, middle and end and the credits of the thing. It's so arrogant. Even stand up, which I do a lot of of the thing. It's so arrogant.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Even stand up, which I do a lot of on the road, it's like, it's so hard. Do I turn on the audience? Sure, who doesn't? Yeah, right. But I recognize, people love it. When I walk into the audience and put my crotch over there, I did do that in, or was I, Dallas.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Because Texas is real. I was asking people to give it up for loose pussies. It's a long story. It's a long story. I have a joke that I say I have a tight pussy, and then I say, of course, I just said that for shock value. I mean, it is, but I don't talk like that. I'm an equal opportunist, give it up for the loose pussies.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Usually at that point in the show, people are, you know, it's like, oh my gosh, we're having fun. Yeah. That's crazy for her to say that. And I just can't, when I look and I see someone, especially a woman, and I get her man to clap and she's not clapping, and I just was, I can't. Not today, not now.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I put the mic down and I walked towards her and I watched her flinch. And I said, you clap for loose pussies right now. You're peeling up for loose pussies. And she did, and then I talked about how scared she looked, you know looked that I did that. And I apologized. I gave her a special thank you at the end.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I didn't mean to scare you that I was physically going to do something to you, but secretly it was kind of fun. Yeah, yeah. You know? Like, wow, she got really scared. And then I kind of, all that to say, really where I was going, that was a fun sidetrack, but that it's hard to be an audience. You have expectation to elicit a response. It's like you can't do that to people. I would be that person in the audience just like, I'm not gonna say anything
Starting point is 00:34:19 or do anything. That's a lot to ask people to be like, ah, ah, ah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You're asking a lot. Let's hear it, woo! Like, you know, make some noise, why? Why, why, that just benefits you. What do I have in this, this make some noise deal? Did you always have that kind of, by the way, when you said give it up for loose pussy, Leo sat up.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Yeah, he did. He was like, all right, Leo, sure, I'll give it up. Yeah. Did you always have that kind of, did you always feel that confident on stage? No, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah. No, I was the opposite.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Did it take a long time? Yes, years. Well, when you, because I remember too, like I remember seeing you on stage back with the alternative scene. Yeah, those were the days. And you did have kind of like a shy persona, like when you were working with Karen in Girls Guitar Club,
Starting point is 00:35:13 is that what it was? Yeah. You had kind of a shy, awkward persona. Oh, I was terrified, but I was driven to do it. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I didn't know. I was out of my mind. And it was, I was not to be, you know, proselytized.
Starting point is 00:35:32 How do you say that word? Proselytized. Proselytized. Pros. Pros, I missed the S. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Proselytized. I don't think I've ever said that out loud.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It lives in my head. Yeah, yeah. But it kind of saved me in a way because I was so socially... And I think that's why I veered away from painting and back to performance because painting is so interior that I needed a human connection. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And I was attracted to comedians, but I didn't know what was going to be funny. And I didn't have a mind to understand that because of whatever damage or like what a... similar in our circle, these were people who were quick, who could speak well, who knew their mind, who knew... I didn't know any of those things about myself. So it was... It's been, you know, years and years of connecting those dots that, you know, you have a mind, you have things to say, you have preferences. Like, I just had no idea. I just knew I needed to
Starting point is 00:36:42 make a connection and express myself. And I was terrified. The result of that beautiful journey is harassing a woman about loose pussy. And now, look at us now. Look at me. Look at me now. I'm the Oprah of loose pussy.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. Oh, that's great. I mean, and it is kind of amazing that you had, that somewhere in you, you had like the drive to know that you needed to do this terrifying thing, you had like the drive to know that you needed to do this terrifying thing, you know? I loved it, but it was also terrifying. And also it was always a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I mean, it still is to a certain extent, you know? Sure, yeah, oh, absolutely. But in the early days, it was like, I think people were on edge because they could tell I didn't know what I was gonna say next. And at those alt shows, it's like saying something different each time. And so that's been a journey too, to now, you know, when you're in a club and someone's paying their paycheck money and getting a babysitter and coming out for it, you have to...
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, you can't be experimental as much. Yeah, but most of those shows back then was like friends and fellow artists and the set would only be 10 to 12 minutes. Yeah, but a lot of most of those shows back then was like friends and fellow artists and you know The set would only be 10 to 12 minutes. So you you know, that's that's bearable. That's that's a good That's a good experiment. Yeah, watch somebody walk that tightrope for 10 minutes Yeah fun, but yeah, you don't want that for an hour, right? And it's a very particular what are you talking? What do you yeah, it's a very it's like doing improv is always like it's a very particular... What are you talking, what do you want to say? Do an improv is always like, it's a very particular audience. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:09 They're there, they know. And I've always said, and other improv performers have taken issue with this, but I've said, you know, there's an inherent apology in improv. It's like, come on, cut us some slack, we're making this up as we go along, you know, like, come on, cut us some slack. We're making this up as we go along. You know, like you can't expect everything to be, you know, like a nice dovetailed little piece of furniture.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Which along those same lines is the same reason why you get big laughs sometimes. Yeah. Because they know like, oh my gosh, that just came off the dome. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, but I- The surprise of it. That's what I always liked about improv. What I liked about improv audiences is that they were there to go with it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 They understood it's not so transactional. Because comedy club audiences can be like, I haven't laughed in 45 seconds. What the fuck? You know? Come on. Give me something. Did you feel that transition? Like when you started doing more club dates? Oh, yeah. And to your point you just made. Did you deal with it? Did you feel like you got to do it and so you just did it? I took it as a challenge of, I remember back when, and I mean, I still am, or I was doing a ton of guest roles or whatever, it's just very freelance. And it's, you know, you get parts that are just,
Starting point is 00:39:38 you know, you work for four days and you're the person and the thing and the, you don't really, so stand up- It doesn't feel steady, too. It doesn't feel steady. It doesn't feel like gratifying in that way. It just sort of like barely wets your whistle. And then, I mean, it can be fun, but then it's always a different show or a different group of people. Yes, not steady, but so that was part of the impetus. And then part of it was like a challenge to see if I could be a road comic. And then once I became that, I was like, well, your dreams came true.
Starting point is 00:40:10 You happy now? I mean, I can remember being on stage just going, yeah, this was really... I thought I wanted this. Here we are. Yeah, yeah. Oh, but what I was gonna say to your point of the transactional nature of it, I've learned to really enjoy and, you know, because it is an indulgence.
Starting point is 00:40:33 You are expecting people, you are giving them a beginning, middle, and, you know, look at me talk for 45 minutes. So it's like, you don't wanna, you know, digging in further to find out what my mind is and what I wanna say and what my point of view is and how I wanna use the time. And there is a transactional nature of it, but I've learned kind of the dance of those transactions. It's like very fun because then you go off of that
Starting point is 00:41:01 and have moments that are unplanned. And so it's doing enough shows and getting to the point where you're okay to do that, no matter where it goes. And now I'm to the point where, and I have a feature that I take with me and he's amazing because he most often will take notes for me on stuff that like, oh, you said that word
Starting point is 00:41:27 and that really worked. Oh, wow. And that's just- That's really great. Yeah, exceptional. And so he's almost bearing a witness to he goes, okay, you just, now I'm going up there and like maybe not even having a set list
Starting point is 00:41:41 or someone will say something and that'll pull up a whole other section of the, or I'm dropping big chunks around. And especially now I'm working on a new hour. So, you know, it's like, okay, you have to, obviously I have the set pieces that are bangers that I know are gonna deliver. And now it's like, oh shit, like my ass is out there.
Starting point is 00:42:02 And I'm like, well, that's the end of that story. Cause I need to like complete it. So it's like- You need something to wrap it up. And in my head I'm like, oh, are you gonna cave in and do the banger? Are you gonna do the new thing and not know if it's going to deliver or whatever?
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like I was saying, I have a whole section about the cat and then sometimes that'll come out. And I was like, oh, I just did the cat bit for 14 minutes because I have a whole thing about when we got the cat and the buildup to that. And Jeff, my feature, he was like, you know, that really made the death part of it. The fact that you did the old bit,
Starting point is 00:42:44 which was, you know, getting the cat and the buildup and it made the death part work. It earned the death laugh. Yeah, it earned. Cause if I tried my new bit of the death right out of the gate, it's very jarring. They're like, no, your cat died. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Dead pets, you know. But it's kind of fun when you hear the backstory. So that's for me, I'm not like very... I mean, obviously I do have to have the new hour and the new material, but it's hard for me to like retire stuff necessarily. It's almost like some stuff goes deeper. I mean, some stuff will go away forever, but there's surprises of like, the cat's my cat. That's not gonna go away.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I imagine it's just like being a person and you tell stories about stuff that happened to you. And after telling it throughout your life, you know... Yeah, the cat story. You know what works and what doesn't work, and you tell it again, you know? Every 10th show, I'm gonna tell the cat butthole story, and it's gonna be great.
Starting point is 00:43:43 It's gonna be great. But I don't have to rely on that everyone relates yeah yeah exactly can't relate oh my god cat buttholes so the story is yeah since we were talking about the cat earlier the cat was freaking six thousand dollars did you know that I say on stage you know cats are free right like you can just go grab a cat they're everywhere absolutely What the fuck are you doing? Leave your patio door open, you'll get a cat. That's part of the lore is that,
Starting point is 00:44:10 cause he wanted this specialty cat. So it's all this buildup and then we finally get the cat home and blah, blah, blah. I'm making friends with it and the cat stands up and the butthole is coming outside the body. So it's like, oh, this designer cat has a distended anus. Has a prolapsed butthole. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And there's a whole thing. outside the body, so it's like, oh, this designer cat has a distended anus. Has a prolapsed butthole.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And there's a whole thing. That's a feature. That's not a butt, it's a feature. Oh yes, yes, yes, of course. The butthole, oh, you noticed that?
Starting point is 00:44:37 That's so funny. Because in the act, which is lifted from life, is me going, what the fuck? And he goes, I'll figure it out. And he comes back and he goes, it's a thing that happens sometimes. And it says it most likely will go back in. And I'm like, that doesn't help.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's not a solution. That's not actual. And he goes, it also says you might have an urge to push it in with your finger. And so the fact that you said it was a feature is exactly where I went on stage. I don't have that urge at all. It's not a cat button. It's not a Diet Coke button.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Press me. Press me. No. That's great. A feature. When you were starting to do stand-up and you wanted to act, did you always know that you were kind of going to do both? That they were going to be sort of alongside each other in your life or? No, because when I started it was the art school thing that I was just and I'm really,
Starting point is 00:45:51 I feel really thankful. Right. Because I didn't come here. Gratitude. Gratitude moment. Oh, gratitude. I didn't come here with a stack of headshots of like, I'm gonna do this. I feel very fortunate that because of art school and because of painting and because of performance art,
Starting point is 00:46:07 because I had an urge to do live shows, it set me up to just do it because I love doing it. And so I didn't know my way to try to get acting stuff. That was not real to me. Not even part of the... No. I'm like, you know, I'm from the streets. That was not real to me. Not even part of the... No. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, you know, I'm from the streets.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'm just a kid from the suburbs with no, just trying to go to the open mic and get a reaction. That's all I wanted. Yeah, yeah. And that just so happened that I, you know, came across a clique of people that were very talented and we all kind of fed each other creatively. And I was, I just was lucky enough to, I just wanted to do live shows, but because of the
Starting point is 00:46:53 company that I kept and the types of things that we were doing and the time that it was, you know, free internet that people would come out and I got auditions from that. So then of course, you know, once I started doing acting, I was like, yeah. This is what I do. Yeah, this is what I do. Of course, that takes years for that to sink in, you know? Did Mr. Show just happen that way?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Did it was just, yeah, you just- Yeah, I was in the shows, I don't know if you remember the name of it, there was a theater in Santa Monica that was in a strip mall that they were doing like the test shows at. I don't remember the name of it. I don't remember it either.
Starting point is 00:47:27 But Bob and David were doing live shows to showcase so they'd get people to come out and watch all the sketches live. And I was in those. I mean, I very much felt like a mascot. I was just happy to be there like, yay. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think I even did like a performance art bit
Starting point is 00:47:45 in that show that they used as like just an interstitial in between sketches. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When do you start getting auditions for, you know, like more kind of straight drama? Because like then, you know, the next thing, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:02 that happened for you, I mean, aside from doing live stuff, was 24 was such a big thing for you. Yeah, well, I didn't really, oh, that's not true. I guess I did Punch Drunk Love, which is a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. And he used to come to Largo, so I was friendly with him. And he said, you know, come and read through this.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I'm working on this. I just need to hear it out loud. So he was pretty savvy. That was basically an audition. He said, will you come and read this with Adam Sandler so we can hear what it sounds like? So he was auditioning me in his own, which was actually a very sweet way to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So there was no expectations. And then- That's nice when you're auditioning and in his own, which was actually a very sweet way to do it. So there was no expectations. And then- That's nice when you're auditioning and then you realize afterwards, oh shit, I was auditioning. Yeah. You don't have to freak yourself out. To just take the pressure off that.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Cause then after that, I remember for that movie, going to the casting sessions when he was casting like the other sisters and I was sort of like already in the mix. So I think it wasn't nailed down. But again, I had a really fresh attitude at that time. I mean, I was very ambitious. I was way more ambitious than I gave myself credit for. But I also had the qualities of like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 we're just having fun, I'm just out here. But I certainly was ambitious and competitive and codependent, but I also had a very naivete, But I certainly was ambitious and competitive and codependent, but I also had a very naivete, like I'm just vulnerable, I'm putting it out there, whatever happens, happens type of thing. But then the drama, I can't remember if I did that movie and then started getting, I only had one or two isolated,
Starting point is 00:49:45 I remember my agent sending me in for like a NCIS or something where I was like, I don't know, either a rape victim or the mother of a rape victim. And I, because I had only done comedies and auditioned for sitcoms. So you know how you adopt these things that we all do where I'm like, hey, how's it going? Like I was that person
Starting point is 00:50:15 because I was used to hanging out with those people. Cause that's what you do when you go into a sitcom. You go, what's going on here? When you meet me. So I remember going in and it was so somber. I was like, what are you guys doing? And they were just like, what the fuck is wrong with her? And I, cause I was, I couldn't deal with, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Cause I knew that I could act it, but anything before action, I cannot keep still or keep quiet. I guess maybe if I had to really like do heavy, I've never had to do something super, super heavy and I guess maybe I could sort of keep it in my pants between takes if I really like had to. I think since then I have learned, I mean hopefully I want to believe that I... Some decorum. I think since then I have learned, I mean, hopefully I wanna believe that I... Some decorum. Well, yeah, and that you get better. I'm definitely more skilled than,
Starting point is 00:51:10 even as we're talking about standup, I've grown up as a person. I have some more colors to play other than awkward, you know, friend of the main person in the show. So I have learned how to... And there have been jobs where it's like, oh, shit, I gotta focus to make sure I nail this.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So it's tempered the fucking around a little bit. But yeah, that's never going away. Did you find when 24 was running, like, did people were surprised that you were a comedian, too? Like, 24 fans or like... I remember early on an executive from Fox was standing off to the side of the bullpen or whatever we were shooting, and she said, I didn't know, none of us thought you could do drama.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So it was sort of the opposite. Like, well, then what the fuck? Yeah. I had a guy after the president of Paramount Television, after the table read for my first sitcom, after the table read come up to me and go, like he made a beeline to me and went, you really can act. I was like, well, what the fuck are you paying me for, buddy? And then I'm like, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:28 it's a town full of singers that can't sing. Yeah, and these are weird touchstone moments where, however it came out of his mouth, he probably was like, oh, it was a relief. A sight, yeah. But yeah, it does beg the question, well, what were you thinking before this? What did you sign off on?
Starting point is 00:52:47 You didn't believe? Yeah. You weren't sure? What I really was just not paying much attention. Yeah. And it just happened. Yeah, that's the truth. It's not, it really has nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I hadn't thought about you for more than three seconds before this particular morning. So, well, what are you hoping for, you know, for the rest of your career, for the rest of your life, you know? Where are you going? Great question. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It's written down on this. Sean wrote it down for me. Sean. Yeah, yeah. Really, really created a nice arc of experience for this. I have an earpiece that he's... Do you have somewhere that you wanna retire to? I have places that I think would be fun to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like Hawaii. Yeah. I think I'd just love to live in Hawaii. Yeah. You know? And I also sometimes entertain fantasies of moving back to Chicago, but I could not do that until I can sustain
Starting point is 00:53:47 a living in two places, because my wife would not be able to handle the winter. Yeah. You know, because when we go back there for Thanksgiving, she's like, what the fuck is this place? Yeah. She just does not, because she's from here, and it's just like, no, this doesn't
Starting point is 00:54:06 work for me. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have places where you think about- I'm having vague fantasies, a fantasy of a beach and a golf cart. That'd be great. That'd be great. But I'm finding that now more than ever, I'm more confident in my abilities, but I also, there's less that I wanna do, which is actually a good place to be in, because I still wanna do a lot of stuff,
Starting point is 00:54:30 but it's less trying hard, so that's a good mindset, good space to be in creatively. You know, and I just put out a standup special, I'm planning on doing another standup special. Working on an hour, yeah, you said. You know, and I just put out a stand-up special. I'm planning on doing another stand-up special. Working on an hour, yeah, you said. And just did a new series, and that was something that I, it was such a joy,
Starting point is 00:54:55 and it was something that I never thought was possible at this point in my life. I thought, well, I wanted to be a regular on something that was meaningful and a character that actually was a true part of moving the plot forward. Yeah, yeah. And was funny. And this, my things that I wanted
Starting point is 00:55:19 were very modest in comparison to what this show ended up being, it's just about to come out. It's called North of North. North of North on Netflix. very modest in comparison to what this show ended up being. Yeah. It's just about to come out. It's called North of North. North of North on Netflix. And it's both of the show runners are two Inuit women who this is the beginning of their legacy of starting film and TV in the Canadian Arctic. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And they're huge comedy fans, pop culture, people, you know, wanted to create this comedy because, first of all, no one knows where this place is. Nobody knows about the culture, but, and the materials that are out about it are kind of heavy and depressing. So they created this show that's just this like gorgeous, relatable stories, but in a world you've never seen before. So they're both not shying away from issues up there, but they're creating these like characters that you just love and you want to see succeed. So the main character is Anna Lam and she is just a modern Inuk woman, but she wants independence, but she's married to the best seal hunter.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And everyone's like, well, you have the best husband and you're a mom, like, what more do you want? So it's, you know, the story of her kind of- Collision of modernity and, you know, tradition, yeah. And that is very real. When you get up there, there's still seal hunters. And that's what the place is. But they have the internet. But they have the internet. Yeah, that is crazy. But there's still seal hunters. And that's what the place is. But they have the internet.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But they have the internet. The internet is crazy. But there's no street lights. It's a very small town that was forced into being modern. So it's kind of the clash of the modern and the ancient practices of these people that survived. That's so cool that you get to do that. And I'm the white lady.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. I'm like, oh, white lady. As the white lady. Who's like, that you get to do that. And I'm the white lady. Yeah. I'm like the- Ah, white lady. As the white lady. Who's like, you're keeping her, but also needing her. So they didn't write me as like straight up Karen. It's like, I have like more layers where I'm just like, oh, you're a volunteer.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You can't really work here. And then a few episodes in, I need her because I need her to help me with what I'm like, the manager of the community center. But it's very fun show. Well, cool. That's really great. I mean, it sounds like a great job.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Yeah, you know, I was just kind of doing my freelance thing. And so now I'm really hopeful that I can sort of have it all in a way, you know, be on the series and do stand up and, you know, travel and go watch my son play basketball. And retire to a beach and get a golf cart. Yeah. And play golf or just the golf cart just to get around? Just the golf cart.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I mean, if someone wants to hold my hand and like, drag me to get into golf, it's possible. I'm not against it. But I'm not gonna seek it out. You just really are there for the ride. I'm there for the ride. Like if Iggy Pop, who is in the Grand Cayman Islands with his Gucci fanny pack and his Gucci beach hat, if he golfs and he's like,
Starting point is 00:58:25 hey, do you want to golf on the Grand Cayman Islands? The answer is yes, obviously. And he's probably the only one at the club that can golf shirtless. Yeah, and pantsless. Yeah, he's not going to put on a shirt or pants. People expect it. His swing goes to shit when he puts pants on.
Starting point is 00:58:44 It's like Samson's hair. He needs his pantslessness in order to retain his strength. Yeah. Well, what do you, if anybody were to ask you advice, just sort of life advice, what do you think that your life has taught you that you could share? You gotta take it as it comes, baby. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, well, yeah. You gotta, I mean, I'm still figuring out, you gotta follow what you like and not have expectations and see what happens. It's not a straight line. Yeah. And you gotta try to grow up before I throw up. You know? Yeah. I'm kind of thinking back to what we were saying earlier.
Starting point is 00:59:28 You do have to learn those lessons, whether it's beyond time or work or. It's kinda like when you travel and you think travel is all the sparkly things and then there's so much shit that you have to go through, whether you're up in the middle of the night or you're catching a train to go to this beautiful place. So just, there's all that stuff that you gotta go through.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Not taking up too much space in limited spaces, on a plane. Just the sort of consideration that you need to have in terms of just, like, get out of the fucking way, you know? Get out of the fucking way. Don't put your bare feet on that, you know? Don't take your shoes and socks off. Don't do that. Don't do that. That's rude.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah, yeah. Ugh. You know? Eh. Well, Marilyn, this has been really great. Thanks for having me. Now you have to have me again, and you bring both been really great. Thanks for having me. Now you have to have me again and you bring both of your dogs. Okay. And I bring this dog back.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Well, you know, I do a radio show on Wednesdays and oh, but we can't bring dogs in there though, because it's at SiriusXM. Who knows, man? Maybe it's time to break the rules of Sirius. Yeah, what are they gonna do? Yeah, come on, dog party at SiriusXM. You've got a stand-up special called Road Gig that's on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Yeah. North of North starts streaming on April 10th. So exciting. And where can people find your stand-up? Because I have April 25th and 26th at the Arlington Drafthouse in Arlington, Virginia. That's all I got right now. I'm flying by the damn seat of my pants.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm going to be a basketball mom this summer, and then I've got to see if they're going to bring us back to the Arctic. So there's that dance. I can't schedule a bunch of stand-up stuff and then have to cancel it. Because it's in the fall? Yes, so I'm waiting a little bit, but I don't know. It's fine's fine. Yeah, I mean well and you never do a lot of until it's until it's out you don't know. Exactly. Because they'll they you're like everyone loves
Starting point is 01:01:34 it again I you know and then yeah days later. So you're saying I should just book myself out with stand up gig. No no I'm not saying that. It's hard when the clubs are like. I'm just saying it is shitty to have that, I mean, it's great to have the possibility. But it is like you can't wait. Because you really do have to drop everything when they say it's go time. But then you can't wait. But then you have to wait.
Starting point is 01:01:58 How long are you away from your son when you're up there? Three months. That's what it was last time. Three months for eight episodes. So depending on how they structure anything moving forward. What I suspect is people are gonna love this show because it's just delightful and they're gonna binge it and they're gonna want more.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Oh, great. But you know, that happens all the time, right? People love a show and then they have to wait a year and a half. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah, come on. If you, you're not making the show, you're just watching the show. and then they have to wait a year and a half. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You're not making the show. You're just watching the show. Yeah. Relax. Yeah. Come on. There's other things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Watch The Wire again. That takes up some time. Oh my gosh. The Wire. That reminds me of being just now. Like, people nowadays, it'll be a few isolated 20s. But in Dallas, there was like a group of 24 that were like, Jack Bauer!
Starting point is 01:02:47 Oh, wow. And I'm like, that's great. Yeah. But that was 12 to 15 years ago. You guys, it's weird, because they're like looking at me, and I'm like, yay, but there's other shows. Do they ever quote you things that you said
Starting point is 01:03:01 that you don't remember? Yeah. Yeah, I get people. And I was just surprised. People will come up with bits. They'll be like, well, what happened to the toad? Huh? And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It's such a compliment. But then you're also like, I am just a person who has gone on with my life. I don't keep it up. I've said lots of things. I love that, the clothing of your comedy bits. I know. It's the best. Well, Marilyn, thank you so much for coming on in
Starting point is 01:03:33 and thank you for bringing Leo. Leo, thank you for being here. Oh, he's under the table. He's settled in now. Now he's not gonna leave. Well, that's all right. That's all right. I mean, you know, maybe Ted Danson
Starting point is 01:03:45 will come in here next and do his podcast. Oh. Leo can get to know Ted. I'll be back next week with more of The Three Questions. So please tune in again. Thanks, Andy. Bye. The Three Questions with Andy Richter
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