The Toast - Smartless Presents - Peerless: Tuesday, February 3rd, 2026

Episode Date: February 3, 2026

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It's Jackson, Claude and every show that that's five things you need to know. We'll start your day off, swirly. It's the toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Tuesday. I hope everybody's having a day that is both Parjolicious and Defonicious. And speaking of Pargealiciousness and Defaliciousness, I am honored, humble, to introduce today's guest, Jacqueline Follet. Hello, Jacqueline. Welcome to the show. Hey, Turdy Lou. Happy to be here.

Okay, Cable-Nit. Okay, stripes. Oh, I'm so glad you brought out my shirt. And I didn't bring up your shirt just to talk about my shirt. Don't you feel like everybody's talking about my shirt today? We're definitely all noticing that you're wearing a new shirt. What seems to be a new shirt, I'm not going to presume. Now, I'm sorry to the cardboard cadets.

This is not from Nordstrom Rack, but my cardboard cadets will be pleased to know. The shirt is also under $50. I went to Mango. Mango's so like having a moment. At the mall. At the mall, I went to Mango, and I just, like, tried on a couple of things. Now, I want to shout out Mango for having reasonably priced clothing that is not ugly. I think that's important.

But I do want to just sort of like tell Mango like small, medium large, like that's crazy. That's crazy small medium large. You know, like what about other sizes outside of that? So yeah, the shirt's a little tight, but like I just needed shirts. And so I went to Mango. If it's sometimes when you go too big, you get that bulk here. Yeah. That's what I'm dealing with.

Like I want bigger sizes, but I don't want extra bulk here. There's nothing better than a big shirt. Do you know what I mean? A shirt, yes. But that if it were too big would not be good. I think it looks nice on you. Thank you. So I do feel like everyone's kind of talking about my new shirt.

Well, we're excited that you have a new shirt and that you're feeling cogey self. Yeah. And I went to the mall and it's just malls are amazing. They are. Oh my goodness. It's really sad what's happened to them. So you, like they're a thing of the past, right? Like they're sort of phasing out.

Yeah. Especially like traditional malls now like your mall has to be like a ratata like a theme park. Yeah. Yeah. Like the American Dream Mall. Like it has a water slide and Lego Land and it's also a mall. And even American Dream Mall. I think suffers.

I think they suffer. American Dream is like in financial ruin. I think they suffer in silence. I think they put on a strong thing. I feel like it's quite loud. I feel like we're always hearing about how the New Jersey, whatever it's called, American Dream Mall is like in financial despair.

The people who built it like are living in poverty. Like there's always like stories about that mall. I feel like they put on a brave face. They're always sending out emails about what SpongeBob is doing. Mr. Beast recorded like a huge video there. They act like nothing's wrong. But I think they're suffering. Yeah.

I mean, I for one, I'm glad I didn't like ever get into the mall business. but as a mall patron, I went to the mall, like, over the weekend, and I just had such an amazing time. And Ben was sort of striking out, like, every store we went to. He just didn't want it that badly, you know? Like, I was, sometimes you have to go to the mall, like, with a mission. And I went to the mall with a mission. I'm like, I'm not trying things on. Like, if it looks like it fits, it will fit. I went to mango. I went to aloe. Like, I went to a couple of stores just to get, like, toast clothing. And I crushed it, like, every store. I got close to Tommy

Bahama, okay? I was crushing it. And Ben was just like, they, like, don't know my size. I just, I was like, I feel like you don't want it bad enough. Like, he was being such, like, like a sour puss he didn't want it mall brands my sweater today airy okay i walked into um i feel like people would would be shocked to that i walked into an airy airy and i think it was gifted like a year ago and i wore it like all last winter you know what they call that sweater cable net well technically yes but you know what other people call it the rory gilmore sweater oh cute um and then i forgot that i had it but it's been so chilly down here that um i'm excited to be wearing it today it's a great sweater. You look beautiful. Thank you. As to you. Dazzling. You know what I did last night? I did something

crazy. Crack? Crazier. Jack? Jackie has this amazing bath. It's in the corner. It's by a window. There's art over it. It has multiple faucets. She never. Jackie has this amazing bath. It's in the corner. It's aren't over it. It has multiple faucets. She never uses it. I've probably used your bath just as many times as you have. Probably. I haven't taken a bath, certainly in over a year because I didn't take one while I was pregnant and I didn't take one since I've given birth because I only went to my six week, 10 week appointment last week. But last, like my body is just like weat hurting, like aching, almost like body aches, but I don't have the rest of a sickness. I feel like I'm fighting something off, but it's taking a toll on my joint. So you had to take it to the bath. So I was like,

oh my God, I need a soak. So I took a bath. Did you wet your hair now? No, no, no, no. Wishing your hair is for the shower. That's an Olympic sport, washing your hair in the tub. Especially I take a really hot bath. So when I get up, you get like dizzy when you get out of the bath. I need to then lay down. Quite literally a Victorian woman. You are not built for this time. Yeah. So, Jackie, she couldn't make it to dinner. She had taken a warm bath. bath was too hot. Like that's literally like what happens in those shows like the empress. Yes. She gets like woozy or like you know when like a woman's like outside. They're like, are you okay? Yeah. That's you. But I enjoyed my bath, my yearly bath. I'll see again next year

bath. I can't even picture you in the bath. And it's like what do you really do? And every time I'm in the bath, I need one of those pillows that I get Instagram ads for. Yeah. That like prop up my back because what I'm going to lay with my neck on the ledge like I'm washing my hair at the salon. So when you do take a bath and you commit to not wetting your hair, it's definitely less relaxing because just being able to lean back and get your hair wet is very relaxing. I got one. Actually, Taylor Strecker got me one of those pillows for my birthday because she had one in her house. And I was like, wait, that's amazing.

She got me one. I have to tell you, and shout out to Taylor, it was an amazing gift for like two months. It became such a chore. First of all, it became smelly. And once it became smelly, I got rid of it. But like, you really, in order to properly take care of it, like, need to take it out of the bath every time you use it and air dry it. And I was like. But when it, it's it's like.

When it was in the bath, did it do what you needed it to do? No, because the pillow itself does get a little wet. So if you really lean back on it fully, like your hair gets wet. Oh, but take that out. Like, was it cozy? Yes. So maybe I should get one for my yearly bath. It has a year to dry.

Yeah, but you're going to put it outside. And like, it's this big, heavy soaking wet thing. Oh. Yeah, it's not all it's cracked up to be. Sorry, Taylor Strecker. And I know it's expensive, too. Well, it's the thought that counts. A very good gift.

Yeah. And she spoke to the Shrekkers this morning. How are they doing? Amazing. Amazing. They're doing amazing. Like they're loving every minute. Taylor Shrekker keeps calling yourself dad, which is cracking me up.

And they actually said that I don't want to spoil because they're probably going to talk about it on their podcast with the birth certificate. They have to get it. Like there's an error on it that says because because there are two women, it says parent one and parent two. And then when they printed it, it said mom and dad. It actually says dad on there, which it can't be. Like it has to like legally be correct.

So she's calling herself dad and it's so funny. Because she was dad. And she has taken on this sort of fatherly role. And she spoke a lot when I was on her. podcast and just in her podcast in general. She was struggling with that identity, but she's, like, she is dad. Like, she's dad. She's dead. She's literally about to get a tool belt.

Like, she's dad. It's hilarious. And she's, like, doing night feedings because she's the dad, you know? Oh, that's funny. Yeah. She's on diaper duty. Dad. Dad stuff.

Hyderical stuff. I also have a newborn who eats every three hours again. Oh, yeah, but you actually, like, do have a newborn. He's only like 11 weeks old. Yeah. He is, well. How old is he? Um, I.

Let me guess. Let me guess. 14 weeks. No less. I think he's 12 weeks. And you know, it's confusing because I feel like my whole life I've been told that there's four weeks in a month. And then you have a four week old, but you don't have a one month old. Well, it's funny you bring that up because I don't know if you've seen the stats on this February. Oh, is it a historic February?

Look at the calendar. Oh, is it full four weeks? It's blocks. Oh, I like that. And, you know, because of 28 days, that's how the month should look. I completely agree. Now that's a month. That's a month that's, you know what's giving?

Month. Yeah. It's like every week is Monday to Sunday, Monday to Sunday. Yeah. The first is a Sunday. And then the last day of the month is the Saturday. I love that. It's a beautiful month.

Enjoy it everyone. I didn't even, much like Cynthia Revo, I did not know that was happening. For those of us who are into months, it's major news. I feel like this is big news for people with planners. It is. And then March 1st will start on a Sunday. So that looks nice up until the three straggler days. That's nice.

I like that. Yeah. So if you're, I actually want to get out my big calendar. We've been making so many plans. You saw just what I showed you. My phone. It looks very busy. I feel like you should talk about how your life is so enriched since I decided not to leave. Why don't you talk about that? Oh, my life is so enriched. I'm so busy. Zach is like, is this going to be like in every, oh, like, is this your new schedule now? We were just talking about maybe we were going to go shopping today. And I was like, well, while Claudia is here, yeah, we just have like so many things to do, so much fun to be had. I just want to make sure I'm not overwhelming you because you do still have like, you still have like,

know a newborn. No, like, I'm definitely overwhelmed, but I think that it's good for me. Me too. I did say, like, my bones feel weary. You've run me down so much. I had to take a bath last night. But I think overall, it's really good. I'm having a really good time. And you just let me know if you need us to scale it back. We can also do, like, more low-key activities. Like, you can just also, like, lay around your house. But, like, going to the mall with the babies, like, is a good activity for me because, like, I'm with my baby. And for the babies. And we are doing something for us. I love that. Yeah. No, I'm definitely overwhelmed. But I think, Like, busy is good.

Yeah. And it's just, like, crazy how I literally convalessed for three months after I had Harry. Like, I did not leave the house. The first time my big outing was your show at MSG. And that was in May. Oh, wow. I don't know if I realized that my big night. It was also like a big night for you.

It was a big day. I remember I was like, I took my pumps out. Now I would be like, I'm going out for a few hours. I'll skip a pump. Yeah, of course. I had Harry in February. And that was my big was May. And, like, then I remember with Charlie, like, that was when I started using the baby

carrier more because, like, you have. have a child. You have to get, you can't, I'll just be home. And now it's like, I, like, really, the bubble is bursting. I feel like it makes it go by a little faster, like the hard part. It does, but you also want to soak it up. I know. It's a, and it's the eternal conflict. Age-old, age-old dilemma. So I try and soak up as much as I can. And I'm like, rat-tata, mama's got to go. And he's coming with. Yeah, of course. He's coming with. We got a carrier in every color. Okay, good. Matchy outfit. I'm glad that, like, we're having fun. We are having fun. I will go home when we stop having fun. I think.

think that's like a good you but we'll never come back no but we also we never stop having fun that's true so i guess i'll never go home but also if you wait till like you hate and then you'll never come back you have to leave on a high well that is what i do i i but that also happened when i was staying at your house like now that we're in our own little place like it's better when i was saying at your house i would stay until like i actually could not stand you or your family and then i wouldn't come back for months because i was like i can't stand these people still right so maybe leave on a high should go home today no yeah no you hear they're not taking out the trash in new york i was just talking to your friend I talked to a lot of people this morning I was like rolling like it

yeah shout out to Alicia had to check in on my bestie who just had a baby had to take on those trekkers it's important to check in on people you know and I heard about the garbage pickup garbage has to be picked up in New York and I think in like 10 days so the streets are covered in ice and garbage I ain't running home yeah I ain't running home no you're needed here we've got we've got plans I mean look at me like I'm kind of like a social chair of South Florida. I'm like, should we go to dinner? I was like, she thinking we should go out to dinner this week. Oh, you do girls or couples?

Okay. So I'm actually glad you brought that up. Because I was thinking we should do couples. Because I'm like, I'm like, every day, I'm like Ben, I'm going here, I'm going there. I'm like doing a lot of things. And he's kind of like being like a house frow. So I want to get Ben out of house. We have reverse roles. You want to get Ben out of that.

Yeah, I want to get Ben out of the house. So it's like, okay, maybe we go with husbands. And then it's just like a reservation for like eight people. It's like so many people. And then you also have to get a sitter. Like, I like girls because... I'm just gonna drop my kids at your house. Oh yeah, then I...

But like, then my husband's home and, like, I feel... I can really enjoy myself. I feel like that's what we always suggest on your toasters. And it's like, I don't... Sorry, Zach, but like, this is how I can, like, have more fun. I totally agree. And it's not because I need to be just with the girls, but it's like I don't want to deal, like, deal with all that.

Yes, you know, the best feeling is like going and having fun while your husband is home. I know that's the mean, but like with the baby, like, no one... The only... The best thing after me is him. Yeah. Yeah.

No, I totally agree. So, like, you really have peace of mind. Okay, so I'll go to a girl's dinner. This is my arm. Sounds good. But then every time I got, I went out at night twice last week, and I was like, this is not for me. I actually agree.

Catch me during the day. I don't love going out at night. Me neither, but I do want to go out to dinner. Maybe when it's almost daylight savings, like in a month. And then it will start to be lighter later, and maybe then going out to dinner will feel better. It won't be like pitch black. If I'm still here.

Well, oh, true. Yeah, you're making big plans. Like, slow down. No, no, but Claudia, you have to say for daylight savings. It's true. It really is so impactful here. Like, when we get more daylight because we can really use it because the weather is good, you know what it sounds like you've been doing?

Making big, big plans. You are so close. Praying for daylight. You were so close. Yeah. Yeah, praying for daylight and Rascal Flats. Oh, my God, yes. So we are going to the Rascal Flats concert, and that is technically why I am still here

because I was not coming back. So we'll reevaluate after Rascal Flats. They better put on a heck of the show. Oh my God. We got to talk about that. We have to talk about this. Okay, so I'm not worried. Me neither.

Gail Lack's, is going viral. The lead singer of Rascal Flats. For one of his performances, someone, like, filmed him and posted in. They said he was like hooting and hollering. Has anybody into Rascal Flats concert recently? Because he's just up there hoot and hoot and hollering.

And he was like off key and all over the place and it was a mess. I watched the videos and I can confirm it was messy. however like I give him grace there's no question there's no doubt that he is the most talented vocalist if something happened that night to throw him off whether it was the drink whether it was the audio

Alex Warren style like that's not Gary self it's annoying that like Gary's bad night gets so much PR when like Gary has night after night Margo just went like he crushes it every single time now we are going that's such a negative society I know.

They get no, like, positive accolades. Yeah. For what he does night after night and he slays. And the one time he's, I can't even say what was happening. Yeah, he was just, like, the thing is, he's been singing these songs for 30 years. Like, sorry he tried something different. Like, don't make fun of the girl who took a chance, you know? Like, he always, he always riffs and he's like, and it's part of the relationship.

He was challenging himself creatively. He was just off. I think he couldn't hear or he was drunk, let's just say. And you know what? Like, you would do it too if you're touring with the same band's. the same song for like 50 years. If my life was listening to Rascal Flats, like all day, every day. I don't know if you would feel that way if you were Rascal Flats, though. That must be how people feel maybe about the toast. No, no, no, no. Don't make Rascals

problem are a problem. No, no, if people, like, I am to Rascal Flats, what the toaster's the toast. Yeah, it's called a fan. I feel like you didn't understand what I was saying. I just do, while we're on the topic, I have two requests for Rascal Flats. do know that people in the Rascal Flats orbit like listens to the show. So we are coming in the show and I need you to do two things for me. We're coming to show. We don't need tickets yet. Oh yeah. Oh, sorry, I need to do three things right. I need tickets. And we want, we won't front row tickets and we're a big group. That's the problem. Yeah, we need 10 front row tickets. And like there's not 10 empty seats right now. It's kind of like the age old question. Like we should

leave the husbands at home except that it's Valentine's Day. Yeah. So yeah. No, and I turn to hack into the biggest Rascal Flats fan. He's not staying home. Ben could stay home. honestly. He's like, I'll go, like, for you. But, okay, so I need three things. I need 10 for her tickets. I need you to add one song to your set list, just like a special one night only, how they remember you. That is my favorite Rascal Flats. So if you guys could do that, that would be great. And then third, this is just like a general overall thing that Gary does. I really need him to stop doing it. I watch every video. Every time I get Rascal Flats live performance comes up on my TikTok, like I'm sad. And he does this thing that a lot of performers do, and it is my biggest pet peeve.

Like, when you get to the best part of the song, like, don't give us the microphone. Keep it to yourself. Like, laughing. Issa. Stop. It's so annoying. Like the best parts of the song you don't hear because like the crowd is singing it.

Please, I really don't like that, Gary. Please stop doing that. And I will just take whatever show that you have to give me. Even if it is a bunch of hootin and hollering. Even if it is. I wouldn't even real. I wouldn't realize either.

You're in the presence of greatness. Like that fucking ingrate who exposed him. Oh, yeah. Well, she's not a real flitista. Oh yeah. What's our name? I don't know. The rascal.

The little rascals? The rascolitas. I like rascolita. Escalitas. Me too. Okay. Rascalitas flattitas. Flatitas.

Well, that's going to be fun. Oh, we're called. I know what we're called. Sorry, we're flat earthers. Okay. The flats. What if they rebranded? The flats.

I like it. That is a cute name. I mean, their name is everything. Yeah. So they can't. But it's like how Lady Antebellum became Lady A. Yeah. No, the Dixie Chicks became the chicks.

That's really more. Oh, yeah. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, thanks. Yeah. once again, like destroying all my calls. No, but I also remembered another call that I made, not the one that we remember,

because those two people, like, from our personal life that you guys wouldn't even care. But I was thinking of another call. It wasn't Hannibal and Justin Rose. Oh, because I was watching Shark Tank last night. Robert Horgevic is the judge equivalent to Derek Huff for you. It's... You liked it when I made it.

You said that to me already? Yeah. No, you didn't. That's the first time I'm hearing this. when we were recapping Dancing with the Stars and I was like, I liked her. And you're like, yeah. And I was like, I feel like for you, he's like the Robert Horchievich of Dancing with this Stars. Oh, okay. Then did I like it then? Okay, okay. So good call, good call. I ate with that. Things you did? That. Um, let's get into stories. There's a lot of stories today for a Tuesday.

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Yeah, she was last seen Saturday night. She was reported missing Sunday morning when she didn't show up to church. And now it is a missing person's investigative. the investigators have said that they believe that she was abducted from her home, that there was a fight. She did not leave. There was blood. The house is now a crime scene.

The house is a crime scene. They believe she did not leave willingly. Right. I think a lot of times when an elderly person disappears, they'll like chalk it up to, you know, cognitive issues, you know, people who are elderly are often found, like, wandering. But it was very clear from the beginning, like, no, she was like snatched. Yeah. And like, I was talking about this with somebody yesterday.

I was like, so was she, like, kidnapped? And you don't ever really use the word kidnap for an old... Abducted. Right. Because this just like doesn't happen. It's so evil. Yeah. It's a really crazy upsetting story.

And she also has health issues. So she takes a daily medication. That if she doesn't take could be fatal for her. Right. So it's like very high stakes. Yeah. Savannah Guthrie posted on Instagram this morning. Like, please send prayers.

I think she was supposed to head to the Olympics. The Olympics in Milan. She's obviously not going. What a weird spook. story. Yeah, and a nightmare. A nightmare. Yeah. So more like there's not a lot of details that have come out, but I think also like the police department don't want to share. If they have a suspect in mind, they don't want to let them know like what we know. Like what sort of enemies does an old lady who goes to church have? She was a Saturday night with her kids, Sunday morning church. She's playing mahjong Saturday night.

You're kidding. I just saw that in the Daily Mail. Like couldn't have been more wholesome. Who is targeting this woman? I don't know. Like seriously, it's the craziest story. She lived in a very affluent community where there should be like security cameras. We've not seen any security footage. I mean, I heard that her home did not have a lot of security, except there were a couple of cameras outside that they're working on getting access to. Yeah. But it wasn't a hot, you know, hot wired, secure. But like the front door was unlocked, but there was like signs of four century. All the common areas, lights were left on. So it's a, like, it's a confusing situation. No one knows what happened. So sad. Yeah. Like, I think like every, like, person's worst nightmare. Yeah. I hope that they get some answers soon. I know. I hope she's okay.

Yeah. What the fuck? I don't know. So what like a crazy. Crazy story. Yeah. Praying for her. Yeah.

Praying for her. Our next story, some talk show news. Oh my God. She confirms that her talk show will end after seven years. She, seven seasons. She said this is not an easy decision. So Kelly posted yesterday, I have been extremely fortunate to work with such an outstanding group of people at TKCS, the Kelly Clarkson show.

Both in LA and New York, there have been so many amazing moments and shows over these seven seasons. I am for grateful and honor to have worked alongside the greatest band and crew you could hope for, all the talent and inspiring people who have shared their time and lives with us, all the fans. Because of all of that, this was not an easy decision, but this season will be my last. Stepping away from the daily schedule will allow me to prioritize my kids, which feels necessary and write for this next chapter of our lives. This isn't goodbye. I'll still be making music, playing shows here and there.

That sounds like I didn't think that you wouldn't be. Oh, I thought that the here and there was like, don't get too excited. And you may catch me on the voice from time to time. You never know where I might show up next. It's giving, I just think like she didn't have to do this forever. So if she's closing this chapter, like, of course you go back to music. You go back to everything else you were doing. But like the fact that she's reassuring us that she'll be making music and performing here and there.

Right. So I think given everything that Kelly has been through, like it's not shocking at all that her show is coming to an end. She should prioritize what she wants to prioritize. However, I feel like this is just based off of a feeling. like no proof that she's kind of been over it for for some time and like she's ending it more so because of that like if she really loved it and wanted to keep going like you know you can find a way to balance family and everything I just feel like it was time for her in addition to all the things that she's been through yeah I don't know that she's over it but I think a job like that

you have to give so much of yourself and it's very like depleting on like your battery and I think she wants to give all of that at home and not have to show up every day, ratata, like when you're not feeling that way every day. It's also an amazing way to go out. Like, I think you, even she's, you know, the biggest and baddest in daytime, but like, that might not have been the case forever. And there's nothing worse than, like, ending your show because, like, the ratings stink. Like, to go out on top after seven very successful seasons.

And we are getting one more season, which means we'll probably get, like, a fabulous final season with lots of, like, Kelly content. It's good. I'm not displeased. And I do feel like, while I love the Kelly Clarkson show and I love what it's done for her, I feel like Kelly Oaky was huge for her. Q score rating amongst a new generation of listeners. I wasn't like watching it a lot.

Like I do, I'd rather her go on tour. I'd rather get music from her. I agree. Yeah, I do feel like it hindered her other projects. And so there was a time and space for it. But I'm kind of thrilled that we're going to go back to the OG Kelly. But I don't know why she said it like that, playing shows here and there, unless that was like meant to like be an Easter egg for something. No, I feel like she's really not going to be doing a lot after this.

like it's easy to release music it's easy to go on the voice like you stay in one place but to tour especially if she's like really is prioritizing family like being like yeah i'll release new music but don't expect me to go on like a 50 city tour that's fine by me just new york or like Vegas we'll come destination yeah we'll travel we'll travel for kelly she's on the short list of people i'll travel for oh who's on the list brasco flats of course kelly clarkson i would travel for luke luke um would you travel for taylor Uh, no. Bruno Mars.

But like, I think that's it. You said it was a short list. Yeah. Four. Four. That's a good list. Yeah. What about you?

I would travel for, I mean, I have traveled for Luke. I have traveled for Taylor. I have traveled for Rascal. I'm aligned. Mm-hmm. Like once in like shows that like. I would travel for one republic. Ooh.

Did we see them? We did. We traveled to New Jersey. That's not really travel. And I would also travel for the Goo Goo Dolls. I've seen them. Me too. Beautiful.

Like genuinely amazing performers. Ecstasy is all you need. Living in the big machine now. I don't know what the hell they're saying in any of their songs. Now your world is way too fast and nothing's real and nothing lasts. We're all alive. Like, I don't even know what the hell he's saying. You know, Charlie Puth was on this Rolling Stone podcast,

and I don't know why I saw so many clips of it. Maybe because the person asking questions, like was actually asking good questions, and Charlie was actually giving insightful answers. And he is really widely regarded. I don't realize Charlie Puth is a Charlie. I didn't realize Charlie Puth was a Charlie either. You know, I love a Charlie.

I do know that. I love a Charlie, too. I've actually been loving Charlie Puth more, you know. Good namesake for your son. Yeah. I love that. And I'm excited for his national anthem coming up. Yes. Well, Charlie Puth was asked because he is widely regarded as one of like the greatest songwriters. One of the greatest charlie. That too. Actually, no, he doesn't even compare to our Charlie. One of the greatest songwriters of our generation. And he was like, what do you think are like five of the best written most perfect songs? And he said a couple. I don't remember. But I was struck that he said Iris by the Gougu Dolls. Like that's someone who knows real music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to know. know the other ones. I'll find it. He really does know real music. Yes, and he knows like what a song is written well. He should do a master class on songwriting. That's his skill. I don't know that he's like always the best celebrity, you know, people like to clown on him. Uh-huh. Okay. Maybe Taylor was

really like being earnest when she said he was underrated. I do think she was being earnest. Like his musical capabilities are so impressive, but he's not the biggest star. Yeah. He's not meant for like stardom. Eminem's Real Slim Shady. Notorious. It was very all over. Notorious Vig juicy.

They're making me watch the clip. Like, I seriously can't. I guess we're watching the clip. Oh, okay. Chartley. Chardley Puth. I forget a song's ever written and recorded.

You see by Notorious B.I.G. Don't want to miss a thing by Aerosmith written by Diane Warren. I think raindrops keep falling on my head by Bert Baccarack. I'm just taking a second because I know the internet lives forever. I think when I heard The Real Slim Shady, just by Dr. Dre, the snare drum blew me away on that.

And probably Iris by the Goo Goo Goo Dolls. Wow. It's so subjective. And I'm sure I didn't even mention a James Taylor song. If I were to do an honorary mention, I'd say something in the way she moves. Okay. Okay, Charlie. Yeah, no.

Taylor Swift was on to something, you know? I agree. Yeah. He's a cutie. Yeah, he is. Oh, are we talking about the Charlie X-E-X Smartlist thing? We are. Do you want to do that next? I do, because I have thoughts and I think it's funny. So SmartList is getting canceled. SmartList is over party. And it's shockingly not by us. And I'm actually kind of going to defend SmartList really quickly. No, they're getting a little bit of backlash, Jason Bateman specifically, after pressing Charlie X-XX on why she doesn't want to have children. So I heard like a transcription of the.

You know, I've read some comments, people being like, Claudia, never lets Jackie finish the story. And you know what? Like, sorry. Okay. Let me just give the other people, like, the information if they're not as online. And this is me taking constructive criticism. Like, I agree with you guys. But don't get, like, ahead of yourselves.

That's all the constructive system I'll take for the year. Charlie XX went on smart list, as one does. And at one point, they're talking about Charlie growing up as an only child. And Jason then asks her if that influences how many kids she wants to have. Wondering if she wants to have more than one kid or maybe one who has the same sort of experience that she did. In response, she said, I actually don't want to have kids. Sean chimed immediately to ask her, you don't? Wait, why? Though a few seconds later, he followed up with, it's none of my business. It's so PC. Then Charlie responded thoughtfully, saying she likes the, quote,

fantasy of having a child, like naming it. It sounds so fun. But like, that is exactly a sign to me why I should not have one. The fact that that feels like the coolest part about it and like maybe I'm not ready, you know? However, from there, things got awkward as Jason started telling a story about his own wife, Amanda, supposedly didn't... So turdy-coded, but he didn't like telling his own story. He didn't want children before she met him, and now they have two daughters. He suggests that she might find somebody who will change her mind, too. To which she replied, well, I'm married.

He then joked that he needed to read a newspaper, and then he followed up with another joke saying that maybe she'll want a kid with her next husband. Yeah. Okay. So I read like a transcription or like someone paraphrasing it, and I was like, yikes. I listened to it, and it actually wasn't that bad. I feel like she's not easily offended. and it was like a very honest conversation.

Like, I actually really liked her take being like the thing that excites me most about having a baby is being able to name it. Like, I feel like that's a good indicator that maybe I'm not like, like I shouldn't have kids. And like I thought the whole conversation like sounded worse than it was. And yes, like at a glance, like three men pestering a woman why she doesn't want to have kids. Sure. But like, I don't know.

I thought it was a funny thing. I did not think it was weird. And I didn't think she was offended either. Yeah. And isn't the whole concept of. smartless. I've quite literally never heard an episode that one of them chooses a guest and surprises the other. So like Jason should, it's like, well, Jason should have done his research. Isn't that the whole thing? Yeah. Do they still do that? Do they still do that? I think so. That's what they did in the documentary.

And that's as far as my smart list knowledge goes. But also like, this is just conversation, you know, and it's meant to be like deep. And those are big questions to ask. And if she, certainly because she wasn't offended, I don't think anybody should be offended. And if she was, I do think they would have probably cut it out. Although there is a part where I feel like they edited it. You can hear like a little cut. Oh, interesting.

But I don't know. I just, you can't like walk on eggshells. And it's a fair, like if you're talking about how you grew up. Oh, and the other thing. Like those are normal.

If you're too scared to ask a question, like seriously, what's the point? I completely agree. And I think the context of what they were talking about before was also left out when this thing went viral. Because it is important. She was talking about being an only child.

Yeah. So like, a good question to ask an only child is like, is that what you want for, your kids or do you want like that experiencing you want to like people ask us that coming from a big family all the time like i was talking about that with josh it's called making fucking conversation with josh peck he was an only child and now he has a huge family like we talked about on the podcast so i don't think it's a weird question i don't think she was offended by it at all i think like keyboard

warriors are and like don't ever put me in a position where i have to defend smartless again okay yeah and and to charlie xx because there are like things that charred canceled uh smartless should be canceled for and this ain't it yeah like being on top of the charts above us all the time like Like that's a cancel little offense. It's disgusting. They're keeping women down. Silencing women. They're silencing women.

And I'm defending Charlie XX too. You see how I did that? I see how you did that. So don't say that I didn't. Nobody said that. Nobody would ever say that. It's such a silly story and people are really reaching. I agree.

Although I am excited. Like I don't know what, I don't know that these three know what it's like to like have the internet at their ours. But I don't really think this is going to reach a level that will even reach them in any meaningful way. Like this is not serious. No.

Even though Judge Dyerd wrote it up. But I do think that like men podcasters have this a lot less than female podcasters. Like the accountability police is just a, it's definitely a women's issue. So nobody really cares like when a man says something on his podcast. But I also feel like and I've not listened to an episode. So this is just me taking a shot in the dark. I feel like smartless doesn't really go there. Like I don't feel like they're having like interesting controversial conversations.

Yeah. No, it's like armchair expert is always going there. Yeah, armchair expert goes there. He gets a lot of, uh, they're the elk of podcasters. Yeah. I don't know what smart list is doing over there, but like I just feel like. People seem to really like it. Yeah.

Yeah, no, they do. And so. Something right. Not every podcast has to be, sorry to say it again, ratata, controversial. Like I'm saying, hottest tapes. Yeah. Yeah. Or like so thought provoking.

Sometimes people just want to commute home and like get a little chuckle. The toast. But the thing about we go there. We do it all. We are so. dynamic do the chuckle oh no we're going at a glance oh no everyone zoom out but we do go there like we're actually extremely substantial when we want to be but i feel like i go through eras where like i'm so serious about stuff and then some eras where i'm like you guys it's not that serious we're just

live in yeah um that's why like the toast is without peer i would say we are peer because we do a little bit of all of it they're smartless we're peerless we're peerless A spin-off show. Peerless. If we ever got acquired by Smartless, it would be, Snartless presents, Peerless.

The Eternity for Maternity Collection. Obsessed. Are you ready for our fourth story? Yeah. It's some really beautiful news. Eddie Murphy's son Eric and Martin Lawrence's daughter, Jasmine, are expecting their first baby together

less than a year after tying the knot. So in case you didn't know, Eddie Murphy's son and Martin Lawrence's daughter are married. I had no idea. Now they're having... I feel like that should have been in his documentary because I like, fun fact, Tommy is that I know a lot of stuff about Eddie Murphy ever since I watched his documentary and made it my whole personality.

And I feel like that's, when he was doing like that 20 minute bit at the end about his dumb ass puppets, I feel like that would have been a good time to let us know this. Yeah, I feel like I forgot this, but maybe at one point I knew it. Okay. Because it didn't seem like totally random. And now they're having a baby. That's really nice. A lot of pressure for the baby to be nice.

To be so funny. Yeah. Why he's like so serious? Yeah. It's really cute. It is really cute. I can only imagine what like the brists or whatever baby shower is going to be like. Yeah.

Funny. Funny, funny, funny. Yeah. I love Eddie Murphy. I know. Because I watch this documentary. I don't know if I mentioned that, you guys. And you liked it.

I never watched it yet. I don't watch last night. Watch American Idol. Oh, we almost watched American Idol. But then there was a shark tank. And you know, Zach Love Shark Tank. Well, I was watching Jeopardy. In case anyone's wondering, I'd be Ben.

And then it was on after. I was like, sure, why not? And it's the auditions, which is my favorite part. After the auditions, I don't really feel like I need to watch. I feel the same way about the voice. It's just such a good show. How is Carrie on the other? I feel like they need a shake-up.

Wait, I think this is her first season. It's not her first season. It's like her second or third. And I wasn't just referring to her. Like, in general, it feels a little. stale. I think it's because, you know, Lionel and Luke Bryan have been there for many years. And then it's like a new pop star. It was Katie Perry. And so it's just like kind of formulaic at this point. And I am like a little bit over it as somebody who tuned in once. They should bring back Simon

Paula Randy. They should bring back Simon. What's old is new again. I don't feel like as a country we've ever been in a better place than we were when those three were running that table like a factory. They each knew their roles. Paula was like the fun pop star. Randy was like just sort of the very affable, relatable one. And then Simon was the one who like could really speak the truth. The truth teller. Hey baby. You got to remember. I'm forever you girl. So I've actually never heard a Paul Abdul song. Have you? Like I know that she is this prolific pop star whose music has quite literally never once touched me in any meaningful way. Was that Paula Abdul? So if you were to say, to me before like two weeks ago, name a Paula Abdul song, I couldn't. Then I watched people

we meet on vacation and there's like a whole scene and it's become like if you talk about the movie on TikTok, like you have to use that song. I'm forever your girl. It's Paula Abdul. It's crazy that she got that job. I think if you knew Paula Abdul and her work, you wouldn't think that it was crazy. Really? Yeah. She was a very meaningful. She was. Do you see the trailer for the Michael Jackson documentary? So they're doing the Bohemian Rhapsody Elton John treatment to Michael Jackson. I'm wondering if they'll talk about the molestation. I'm wondering if they will touch on it. The molestation was not in the trailer. No, it wasn't, but that's okay. A lot of like family drama. And it's, I think, considered like people are really excited about it because, well, who could play Michael?

The greatest, you know, singer-dancer of our time. Well, one of his descendants, actually, Jafar will be playing Michael. I don't know if I'm going to watch it. Because like, one thing about me, I actually do think he molested those kids. That's just like a crazy thing about me. I think so too. And I talked about him. It was very compelling. Oh my God, that HBO Max documentary was insane. I just believe it. And even if, like, I didn't watch a documentary, like the whole thing of him, like, you know, having the ranch where kids would come.

Like, it's just weird. So just, I'm, like, not a fan of, like, the erasure of the molestation, personally. And I feel like there have been, like, the MJ hologram and the Broadway show. They're always doing things about his life where they're just very conveniently leaving out the whole, you know, child molestation.

I think what people say and they sort of, try to make sense of it, like, by saying that he was, like, stunted as a child and, like, as a child star and probably, like, he never... Psychologically abused and, like, never. And so, are you going to show us that in the documentary, or is it all going to be, like, ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. You know? What time are you singing?

Oh, Jackson Five. Yeah. That is the best. What else do it? I mean, Jackson Five. Yeah, I thought you were saying, like, a Michael Jackson-Cons song. Oh, no, I was going to sing Jackson-5 song because the documentaries seemed very Jackson-5-heavy. wonder if the documentary and by documentary of course it means biopic if the biopic will cover the

influence 13 going on 30 had on michael jackson's career i don't know that he did he live to see that i actually think he did thank god that he loves to see that honestly i'm glad i live to see that so i feel like the biopic will be very surface i just want to quickly go back if i were to ever do a rolling stone interview and they would say what are the five greatest songs ever written i really have to think about it, but I do think that Jackson 5 song is up there. It's like the best song. And that's why I like would by, I don't even know what song you're singing when you sing that. Oh, no, I like the Simorelli version. Nah, nah, nah, before E, except after C, not two plus two legs fall.

Na, nah, nah, I'm gonna teach you. How to get a night. You're supposed to be my back to, by background. I'm going to teach, teach you, teach you, teach you. All about love, dear. Sit yourself down and take you. A seat. Oh, you gotta do is repeat. Like that is, Charlie Puth should have said that. And we're learning. I'll tell you it story, me.

A, B, C, one, two, three. Baby you and me, oh, you're gonna do it, how to sing it out. Come on, come, come, come on, let me show you what it's all about. Read it. I literally know all the words that song because of Simirelli.

Do you know what I'm talking about? You know it's a good kid song too. Of course, like when when we starts going to school, you know I'm gonna be popping that thing. A lot of good, like, Jackson 5, Like rock and robin. Oh yeah, they kind of like made music for kids. Yeah.

I guess because they were kids. That's a good call. So yeah, curious at the little station, of course. I feel like they won't even go there. I know. Is it really a biopic? No. And do you want to see that in your movie musical?

So like that's why I think I'll skip the movie. Yeah, but Miles Teller's in it. Oh my God. I was shocked when Miles Teller showed up in the documentary in a wig. Like I was shook. else? Yeah. Except then I remembered the funny story that when it was like rumored who they were

casting for the movie, there was a rumor that Miles Teller was playing Michael Jackson and he had to like come out and be like, you guys, I'm not. Oh, that's so funny. Because there was like backlash rightfully. So like why would Miles Teller? Even though he really can dance. Yeah. He's a great actor.

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-da-da-da-da-da-da. What is a feeling? It's a video. You know? The Subur daffa Fis Don't stop Don't stop till you get enough You know what song I really like actually

But I prefer the glee version of course I'm starting with the man in the mirror Oh yeah And he really should have started With the man in the mirror that Michael Like change starts from within Okay Yeah

No messes Oh no that's George Michael in that song I like that other one Oh you know what I love Sometimes the clothes do not make the man Oh I love that song.

Me too. Michael Jack, bringing it back. Yeah. Black and white. Say it. It don't matter if you're black or white. Do, do, do, do.

You know what? I met my baby on a set. Maybe we should watch a movie. I was, I think I have to see the movie. No, like, because I can hold space for two things. Like, that music is really good. It's really good. Wow.

He's really good. It's excellent. I think we have to see the movie. It's been a while since we've gotten like a swirly biopic, you know, not something like, that's, you know, it's. like not fun. Like Bohemian Rhapsody and Elton, like they were like about the music.

Very showman. Like, yeah. Okay, let's do it. Yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? And a miracle has happened tonight. You know what? We can also watch the Glee episode of Michael Jackson.

They did like a themed episode. And is he fat bottom girls? No, that's queen. I like that song. I love that song. And the way, like I only know it from Glee. Glee doesn't get enough respect for like introducing my generation. I know so much old.

older music exclusively because of Glee. I know so much Queen. Yeah. I think it's going to be like a queenie Michael Jackson ride home today. Yeah, oh for sure. I, Glee version. I only know like Bohemian Rhapsody because of Glee. It was when Quinn gave birth. Oh. In the first season. Hmm. And so it's like, uh, and she's pushing. And then they go back there at quarterfinals or whatever. Such a good episode. But the final story. Brought to you by Claire Stem. Yes. All right. Listen up if you're in in the market for some new skincare or your skincare is just like not working. If you've struggled with breakouts, hormonal skin flare-ups, you know, period-related, cycle-related skin issues, I love clear stem. I have so many of their products that I love. It has

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Thank you, Tert. My pleasure. Our fifth and final story, Whitney Leavitt debuted on Broadway in Chicago. Her first performance as Roxy has been shared online. And Whitney's doing her thing. Yes, I saw it. I think a lot of people were very curious. We've never heard her sing.

So obviously when you go to Broadway, singing is kind of a big part of that. She's been posting a lot of videos of her practicing, but like none of her singing. So it was just sort of this like, kind of waiting. Yes, yes. And she would like post videos. Okay, everybody wants me to sing. And then like there would be like a, you know, a car crash or whatever. Like she couldn't.

She was like kind of playing with people. And she could sing. She definitely can sing. She looked like she crushed it. I saw a couple of clips. Obviously, I haven't seen the show. All the girlies were in attendance. And I was reading a lot of comments.

people being like, well, you know, now she's on Broadway. She's a big star. Of course, all the haters, Michaela, because everybody was really tough on her. The most recent season that we saw. And then she had kind of like a banner a year. Yeah. Stars, you know, became this huge cultural thing. Now she's on Broadway. And so, of course, it looks like all the girls come running back.

I was, you know, proud to say I did not pile on Whitney this season. I felt like the girls really did her wrong. It was sort of painful to watch at times, like how poorly she was being treated. Yeah. And so I don't, this isn't like a winning comeback for me because I've sort of been here. And like now I think a lot of people are like, well, like dancing with the stars. Like we were there before, you know. Oh yeah.

We've supported her the whole time and we thought that she should win. But all of it led her to this, even not winning. I feel like maybe if she won, maybe it would have been different. Who knows if she would have gotten this role. She wouldn't she be on the tour or something? Like this was what was meant for her. It's crazy how much like she's changed in the last. year and how much like my perception of her change.

Like when I watch her on the show, it feels like I'm watching a completely different person now. Also Mark Ballas, I feel that way about. Well, Traders has not been good for Mark Ballas, I believe. It's not been kind. Jackie sent me a funny text. She was like, what did you say? Like about how he's... I didn't know anything about him like when I watched Dancing with the Stars. And when I saw him on Dancing with Stars, like, I was a little intimidated by him.

Like, I just felt like he's very cool and very serious. And he's one of like the most decorated champions and he's like one of the most popular ones. And he's so a part of Dancing with the Stars lore and history. in a positive way. Yeah, and I felt like maybe, I don't know, all the drama that surrounded them, like, I don't know, I just, like, I felt he was, like, very intimidating. Oh, it was like ethereal. Yeah.

And then, like, Traders. Like I said, has not been good. Right. I was like, oh. He's not that. No. And he's just, like, one of Colton's cronies. Yeah.

It's giving follower on Traders, which is never a good thing. Yeah. But back to Whitney, very excited for her. Yeah. I feel like the next season of Secret Lives that comes. out. We'll be like when the girls are doing dancing with the stars. Yeah, it'll be a little delayed. And we'll see how supportive they are of her in that moment. If they were there for her then, then it's okay that they're here for her now. But I didn't see Jen. I saw Michaela. I saw

Jesse. I think I saw Macy. Taylor. Taylor. I did not see. Demi. What? Do me? No, I didn't see her, but like, I don't think that means anything. Yeah, I think they are friends. Yeah. No, I didn't see Jen. So we'll see how they treat her on this previous season. But yeah, now she's like larger than life. I wonder, like, not to, like, you know, put pressure on her, but like, what do you do after this? Do you go back to Utah? Yes. I really hope she does not leave the show. I think it's like, I think that happens a lot. Raja Jean-Paul. Like, don't leave the thing, because it's still a huge show. Yeah. Do not leave. I don't think it would be good for her. Like, if, I would actually think that's a huge mistake. Yeah. If Taylor Frankie Paul is not

leaving, nobody should be. Yeah. Even though, do you feel like Whitney, who do you think is the most famous from the show. I feel like it's Whitney now. Today it's Whitney. When Taylor's season of the Bachelorette comes out, it will be Taylor. Yeah, yeah, because it's always just sort of in this undisputed thing. Like, Taylor is a leader of mom talk because she started it, but also because she is the most famous.

I think she's had the most followers. Yeah. How many followers does Whitney have now compared to Taylor? Are we talking exclusively on TikTok? I want to do TikTok. I'll go to Instagram. You go to the TikTok. Okay.

Taylor Frankie Paul has six million followers. That's a ton. Whitney Leavitt has, oh, 3.4. It's like not even a question. Taylor has 2.2 on Instagram. And Whitney Layavitt has 1.5. So she's creepy up. And I do feel like their Instagram followers.

How many just Taylor have on Instagram? 2.2. Oh, she's creeping out. Yeah. Like, I feel like Taylor got a lot of followers on TikTok. From mom talk. But now they're all sort of like settled. Yeah.

Yeah, Instagram is I feel a more realistic. Yeah, it's like more like telling people. from the show. Yeah. So yeah, definitely neck and neck, but I do still think Taylor's leader of mom talk, no matter how big Whitney is, because Whitney's like doing things outside of mom talk.

Outside of Utah. Taylor's always been doing everything like in service of mom talk. Mom talk. Yeah. Yeah, very exciting for Miss Lee Abbott. Oh, girl. Let's dive into Dear Toasters our weekly advice segment every Tuesday.

Jackie and I host a segment called Dear Toasters, where our toasters can write in if they're in need, whether they're going through issues at work, at home, in their relationship with a friend and a wedding party. Email us, Dear Toaster, Toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, Thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down, there's a little box that says, Dear Toasters, both methods of submission are equal opportunity, and they are both completely anonymous, so you never have to worry about that. Are you ready?

Okay. Dear Toasters, after my husband's mom died three years ago, we had to take in her cat, or she was going to be put in a shelter. I love animals, but this cat is the worst. She attacks my other cat, she pees in places out of spite. She scratches, like ruins my doors and walls. I have a black lab, a dog who's terrified of her. I'm seven months pregnant with my first child. Is it wrong of me to want to get rid of my husband's dead mother's cat? No, and I would have said this even before you said you were pregnant, but now that you're pregnant, it's sort of like what you say goes. And I'm sorry to your husband, but his mom's cat has to go. No, and like you can't have like a wild, feral animal around when you have a baby. I've also heard that like cats can be unsafe during pregnancy because they carry some germs

that are like not safe for the pregnant. Yeah, but she has enough. cat that she loves. So she shouldn't bring that up. Okay. Okay. Because it's like, all right, we'll have to get rid of both cats. Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely seek out a family member on your husband's side. Like, worst case, like you don't want to give him in a shelter. So like I would really work to find, and of course this is your husband's problem, not yours. Finding a safe home for him. Rehoming and during pregnancy and early childhood years happens a lot. You're not a bad person because of it. Jennifer Lawrence did it. And this isn't even your cat. So definitely, definitely. get rid of that cat. Yeah, you can't have a wild animal around with a baby. Yeah, and I also feel like

its spirit feels cursed, you know, and you want to, you're in your nesting phase. Yeah. You want to sage the home, positive, clean energy, and it doesn't sound like this cat is providing that. No. And so you, when it comes to bringing it up, like, just say it, like, you don't even have to cushion it. Like, you're not even being remotely unreasonable. No. And like, you're not, this, this isn't like a democracy, you know. It's a prerogacy. This is happening. Yeah, right. Get on board. Yeah. Start making arrangements. Yeah. All right. Next up. That was easy. Hey, Swirlies. I went to the dentist recently and I was seen by a new dentist. I couldn't help but notice this nanos extremely attractive. And he seemed to be around my age. I am typically shy. I do not like going out of my way to express

things like this or make the first move. So how do I go about seeing if he's interested in me? Should I follow him on Instagram? Is it weird if I have my roommate DM him for me in case it goes poorly because I still want to go to the dentist. He's also private on Instagram, so I don't know if he has a girlfriend, sincerely a shy toaster. I feel like you've written into the wrong show. Like I don't know. We are too married ladies. No, no, like, I don't know how to help you because I'm always about putting yourself out there.

You know, there is a time and a place. But like, I don't know why this feels like a hard one. Well, it is a little radical just in terms of like, you know nothing about him. Like we do, before you make any sort of contact, you absolutely have to. find out if he's married because don't waste your time then and I think there are ways to just google it google his name and registry and see if there's like a registry come up like there's a million ways find a mutual friend check Facebook like there are ways you have to do that first but I do love your approach to um like you can't just sit around and wait for life to happen for you especially in the

day and age I feel like you know I'm always quoting Scott Galloway he talks about how men as a gender deteriorating um they're less and less viable and and they're certainly not asking women out it's just not happening. I don't know how people are meeting people, but it's not in the way that they once were. And I think a lot of women are kind of forced to take matters into their own hands. And I do think that's what's happening to here. And so I want to support you. So I'm trying to give sort of tactical advice. You have to find out. You have to find out. I think also he, even if he thought you were cute, like, I don't think he could make the first move because that's like inappropriate violation. I think DMing with the friend, no. No, agreed no. I think you kind

of have to put your cards on the table and be willing to change dentists. Of course. It's not that hard. Like, dentists are, like, it's not like he's a neurosurgeon. Like, dentists are, there's one on every block. You could find another dentist. Not to say that dentists aren't smart. That's not what I was saying. But I do think you need to be more specific when looking for a neurosurgeon versus a dentist.

I'm thinking of what I'm going to say next. And I think you've, like, stepped in some shit. Because that's not what I was saying. Like, obviously, you go to dental school. Like, you're really smart. Oh, I hear you. But it doesn't sound like you've crazy. I came back to the conversation and you have to apologize.

I'm fighting for my life over here. I just didn't want to. insult dentists. Like, I think it doesn't sound like you've any complicated dental history. So if you need to find a new dentist, it's like, it's not a big deal. Okay. Okay. It's not a big deal.

So, like, you need to be willing to lose your dentist. Yes, you do. And instead of a new dentist, what you've known for five minutes and you're married to him as a dentist? Like, it's fine. Yeah, it is fine. And so I think you do have to just like sort of disassociate and you said you're shy, like put on the out, like a confident person outerwear and like go up to me like.

At the next appointment. At the next appointment. and be like, by the way, at your final appointment. Are you seeing anyone and see what he says? Yeah. Be like, I would love to grab a drink sometime. And like, even though that's like not me and it's not you either. That was really good though.

Not right. I just like, I'm in a costume of confidence. Wait for the appointment to be borderline over. Like his wrapping up. But is there like a hygienist in the room? They're always ruining the vibes. Like, not to say that dental hygiene. No, you know, she's eyeing him to.

Of course, the girl gets out. Everyone wants hot dentists. But will everyone do it? Not everyone has what it takes to get the hot dentist. You have to be prepared. You have to have your next dentist on Zikaio. And you have to. Instead of asking your friend to Dia, him, ask your friend who her dentist is.

Yeah. You have to just pretend you're someone else. Yeah. And say like, hey, you want to grab me? You need to be kind of crazy. Yeah. And the crazy bird gets the word. We're at an inflection point.

You have nothing to lose except a good dentist. In culture, we're at an inflection point like in heteronormative. Hetero relationships where like men are not asking women out, like men are not leaving the house. Like they are these sort of like crazy creatures. I think we should have Scott Galloway on the podcast. I actually would love to. Great. And I didn't know you taught at NYU.

Kind of how we did like that episode with Chelsea Handler and like we were like people, the ones we chose were like very specific to Chelsea. We need to write in about like men who are suffering like and how the wives can help them. And maybe we can get it sponsored by State Farm and it can be called Dear Farmer with Scott Galloway. Okay. Or we just have our loyal sponsors and not, you know, not yearn for the ones who left us. Pined for State Farm. Yeah. I don't, no, I mean, State Farm is great. Come back anytime. I pine for Deer Farmer. Yeah, I know you do. But I just feel like there are, what about Farmers Insurance? Farmers Insurance. Are they not owned by State Farm? Don't you feel like that's a weird coincidence? Like,

yeah, they kind of like appropriating the farm. Yeah, it's like a cheater rant. No, but like Farmers Insurance is insurance for farmers. No, it's not. It's not. It's not. I know. It's just insurance. Are you sure? I'm not. And like that would make sense, but I'm almost 100%. And then it's like, what does state farm know about farm? Do you even know ball, as the children say? Is farmers insurance only insurance for farmers, question mark? Or not only, but like mostly. No. Despite the name, it's a large insurance company that sells policies to all kinds of customers, auto insurance, home insurance, renters, life, business insurance, umbrella liability, motorcycle RV. Okay, so they can do dear farmer. Yeah.

How did we get here? Oh, so yeah, you have to be prepared to find another dentist and you have to the next time the appointment, like find the right time, wait for the appointment to be over because if he says, oh, and you also have to find out if he's married or has a girlfriend because then seriously don't wait for time. Yeah, and I just feel like he does. Do you know what I mean? I feel like dentists are usually spoken for.

Well, also, like, dentists like would be wearing rings, right? I don't know why they're going to bring their ring into your mouth. And a ring is really dirty. I actually hope my dentist is not wearing a ring. No, and he wear a glove. Oh, yeah. Glove. Yeah, no glove, no love.

I think, yeah, you know what? Someone's going to get this dentist and why not you? No, I love your brazen approach, especially you sound like somebody who doesn't do this a lot. No, she became on brazen when she started talking about Instagram DMs. Oh, that's when I was like, you're not cut out for this. Of all the things you wrote in, that is definitely the worst idea. Like, do not do that. Don't bring any part of Instagram into this.

Agreed. Unless it's like stalking. Yeah, unless you make a fin, I don't even think your friend should follow him to find out. his website, like when they say, like about us, he'll have a picture. If he has a wife and kids, the picture will be there. Yeah. And if your friend, like, follows him to find out, he might think the friend's cute. Oh, yeah, only your ugly friends. Yeah. Okay, you ready for a third and final. Hey, Jackson, turd, how you darn? Do I have to tell my boyfriend that I'm on Ozempic? I've always been an athlete. I'm into working out. I just need a little help to get rid of some stubborn weight.

I'm hesitant to tell him because he and his family are very holistic when it comes to health and wellness. The context is that we both live in the same city, but we do live separately. so I'm not worried about him seeing it in my fridge. We've been dating for almost two years, and the only person I've told is my best friend. Am I okay to keep this huge secret and not tell him that I'm on a medication? Or is it okay to live my girly, squirly, skinny life in private?

Ooh, I'm like, I've got angel and devil on my shoulder. Me too. Because my initial reaction is like, live your life, don't tell him. Leave your life. He's just the boyfriend. Do what you want. I hate to be so extreme, like, break up with your boyfriend,

he's gay. But if you can't tell your boyfriend, like this thing that means, like, that you want to do for your own reasons. It doesn't affect him at all. like, I don't know, it kind of sounds like he's like not a supportive boyfriend. Well, no, but he might be like holistic and like you just have a different, you guys just disagree about. And that's fine, but you should still support it.

But that doesn't mean that you should break up. But you also might not even want to go there and like have the talk about it. And you're entitled to like your privacy or medical privacy. You don't have to like tell someone everything. However, on the other side, I'm like, I want to know what medications my partner is on. Yeah. I feel like that's a fair thing to know. Oh, that's an interesting.

thing to say. I think I agree. I've never thought about it before because like Ben and I like, you know, we pee with the door open. We're very like, there's nothing. And that's your like, you would never not. Right. He's your husband.

I would want to know medications that my partner's on. I feel like that's a fair thing to know. But I also feel like, you know, your body, your choice. I'm fine with her doing it, but I don't, I feel like then not sharing it. And also what? You're going to hide the thing in your fridge every time. And then what if he finds it? It's not that you're taking those.

And then you act like you're doing something wrong. You hit it from him. When you're, when you're high and lie, it's because you're doing something bad and you're not. Yeah. I actually think it might be a good test for your relationship. Like this is something you know he fundamentally disagrees with. Can he be supportive of something you want to do for yourself?

And can you just like handle disagreement? I do think you should tell him for those reasons. I think so too. You don't want to have secrets between you. No, it's never good. And if it is a deal breaker for him for whatever reason, then the deal is. broken. Yeah. And if he can't be supportive of something that he just doesn't agree with,

but that's like, it's not like you're doing meth, right? Like it's just, it's a medicine. A doctor would prescribe it. So if he can't be supportive of something that he might, you know, have a different value on and like, that's not a good sign. Yeah. Not everything you're going to want to do. He's going to agree with, but he should support it. Yeah. And I think, I think if he is like a good guy and you guys are meant to be, like, I think you might be underestimating his capacity for change and open mindness. Or not even change. It's like being understanding. Yeah. You don't. How. I don't. How. It's just. It's just like, have to agree with everything your partner does and says, but you do have to respect it and support it.

Yeah, but if he is so set in his ways to the point that, like, he could not support or be with you. If you're on OZemPEC, then that's something you should know. Agreed. It's kind of like a good test for your relationship two years in. Yeah, like that's a big disagreement to have. It's not, I don't think, a deal breaker, but you're allowed to have different philosophies on it. Yeah, and I don't think you should keep secrets. Yeah. Like that. Because then it's like you're doing something wrong and you're not.

Yeah, and you don't want to feel like you're doing something wrong. You don't want to feel like you're hiding something from my hand. And on his end, like, I think he has a right to know medications at his partner's on. I agree. At two years, yeah. Yeah, yeah, at two years. You don't have to, like, lead with it on the first date. No, of course not.

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