The Yard - Ep. 197 - We Travelled To Canada! (ft. Northernlion)

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

This week, the boys are joined by Northernlion! They talk about Northernlion's beginning on YouTube, his impact on the internet, and how life is tougher for bald people... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And uh, and we're in the cove making it stink. That's what I've been saying all uber. All uber, all walk? It's already pretty stinky sometimes. Trust me, we've been working hard. We is a big word. Because he's been talking, and I'm usually the guy that wants to do things such as make it stink. And my Uber driver's trying to have a nice night.

He's trying to be quiet, but I'm saying we're in the Coov making it stink in here. So yuck. We're stinking up the Coov. It's not good. Let's go. And then you showed up and you look like that. Okay. Which is crazy. Well-

In front of our guest, in front of our friend. How about we say hello to our guest? Instead of talking about how the Coov stinks. Hello, Northern Lion, aka Ryan. It stank before you got here. I'm trying to absolve you a little bit. Okay. We can't even take credit for making it stink.

Cause I've been here for a long time. So. I think Mike made it stink! I think Mike added a bit of stink to the Coov after winning. Yeah, he made it stink like carnie asada. Is this anything? Yeah. Anyway, I showed up.

Or he showed up. He starts walking around this, we're in this apartment that we're not allowed to be filming in. And this motherfucker walks on his toes, boys. He is a bald, 35-year-old six man. 36, yeah. 36-year-old man who walks on his toes. But he's your hero, so now what you're just Canadian autistic slime

Yes, I think so Well, come on toe thing. I didn't that's a misconception. I've done the You're telling us or you didn't got extremely low score right? Yeah, I don't get messed up by like We do the test works because they both got really low We got really low and I got really high and I'm thinking maybe the test is backwards I mean, it's a golf guy who spent literally 70 hours last week coding a Call of Duty 4 mod Yeah, potentially putting malware in the PC coding a Call of Duty 4 mod. Yeah, potentially putting malware in the PC of our company.

Definitely putting some malware on them. Our friend, professional Super Smash Bros. Melee player got hacked and was doing a crypto scam because he was fucking coding. Well, we don't know if that's the reason. The PC is used by a lot of people in the office, it's like our guest computer, and I was downloading a lot of different programs from 2011 from forums. Made by 13 year olds. That had media fire links.

So the jury is still out. It could be anything. It could be anything. It could be anything. Do you have what we call a piggy PC at your house? It's for when the piggies come to use it. That's why he was using it. I think I use the piggy PC.

Like my wife has like the RGB lights and the gamer case and stuff like that and I just use like whatever I got. Yeah, the slop duct tape machine can I do your neighbors know you're streaming I think that they know that I do something weird at least cuz like the office that I'm in is a window just above eye level every couple of months they'll walk by doing some gardening and like peek in through the window and I'm just like like the veins are popping out of my There's a joker on the screen and you're going

Leading like a double life though. It's like as soon as I see them like on the weekends It's like very domestic very suburban. I feel you're not trying to bring it up in my mind I mean, I don't want to brag. Well, brag? It's embarrassing. Oh, yes, exactly. A little, yeah, I see. So what do you say? They don't ask me about work. So maybe I'm living in like a neighborhood where he works in the mafia or something like that. Okay. Nobody wants to answer questions. Don't ask questions in the neighborhood. I've been to that neighborhood. I know it is like that. Low-key. What do you tell an Uber driver? I go no conversation preferred on the app.

Wow. You beat it out. Wow. I think I'm like a traitor to the cause. Yeah. I had a social breakdown almost earlier because I had to call a guy to get in because I didn't have the key fob. And I didn't want to do that. It wasn't a breakdown. But I was just sitting outside of this building. And I'm like... Just looking at the security guard inside going, let me in! People would come in and out and I'd be kind of like... and then they'd be like, well, what if they say no and then I have to deal with that?

Wait, so people were coming in and out, you were too nervous to ask those people to hold the door open? Yeah, because you're not allowed to be in here. They won't open it for you. Really? Yeah. Imagine the guy who opens it and I try to get in and he's like... You know what he's like? Yeah, he's he's like, yeah, I stopped you on you. Yeah. And I don't want to do that anyway. It's there's a, there's not an option for that from my situation. So, okay.

Can I, I'm going to tell you, so this is one story you've heard of this man. Let me tell you another story. Just a couple of days ago, we're at a coffee shop. Okay. And you're hearing all the social anxieties riddled with yesterday. I were at a coffee shop yesterday and the guy at the counter recognized me, he goes, Are you Ludwig? And I go, yeah, I am Ludwig. And then, Slime, hearing this,

like seven people in the store, goes, oh you like Ludwig? Watch this, turns, punches me in my stomach, hard! And the guy just doesn't acknowledge that it happened. He just looks past it and goes, can I have a photo? He hit my stomach hard! And the guy just doesn't acknowledge that it happened. He just looks past it and goes, can I have a photo? And this is the man who's sitting here being like, yeah, I couldn't ask him to open the door for me. I couldn't dare do that, that would be too much. It's different!

How? Well, for one, you doubled over, which was really funny. And look what happened. I didn't do that! No, you didn't do that. The weight was you! The whole stomach, yeah, the whole stomach It's actually so sparse

It looks like bread Yeah, I punched him in the stomach and he goes Which is really funny You're an object to them You get punched and they're like, I want a photo now It was crazy I just think he, look, to be fair, I think if anyone got punched He'd probably have the same reaction which is okay

So what was the order again? Have you punched him though? Let you hit me as hard as I get as hard as you can Crazy if the fan got involved like if you watch this and you punched him and the fan Come and be like, leave him alone. No, no, no, no. Ludwig doesn't need this. Beat the shit out of Ludwig experience.

Yeah I did that. Yeah so what? I'm a fucking bum. So what? It's not 8 Mile. I just think that me and our new friend Northern Lion are exactly the same. Do you prefer Ryan in person in the real world? Uh... Or do you prefer for people to look at you and go Northern Lion? It's awkward because I never actually revealed my name.

So you kind of just... You've never revealed... Screwed me real bad right there. You've never revealed Ryan. No, I don't really care. It's weird when people I know in real life call me Northern Lion. Yeah. But I think it would be weird if someone I just met through streaming called me Ryan

That's how I felt outside when I greeted you because to be honest, I didn't I didn't know your first Yeah, I guess you didn't Dilemma, but I was like is this awkward like I'm going outside I'm meeting a grown man and saying like hello. Nice to meet you northern lion. I have a theory about this I think it's it's it's more about syllables. Because there's nothing wrong with calling him slime. We all think that's fine. I think people naturally go slime. It's not a person's name. Why does it feel so good?

What if I came out and I was like, what up, lion? I would have to match your energy. I would be in a different spot right now. You'd be like, bisexual guy in weird jeans. And they were the worst app of all time. Just immediately clogged them. I think you're honest on them, because I think people run with the NL. That's true.

Referentially, when you're not in the room. Yeah, NL's okay. Kind of weird, it's like someone's initials. They call on you LA. Oh, that's kind of good though. It's like the initials of a fake guy. Which is the weirdest part. Do you think that Ludwig is like,

devoid of like a soul? Well, I just met him. It doesn't take long. What you've known of him. And he shows up looking like fucking this. Do you think when he says State Farm he means it? Well, you're putting me on the spot. So I want to give you a little background.

I've never seen the podcast before. So I thought I'd do some research on Reddit. Like go to your subreddit and it's just... 6'2", 185 pounds. That was a weird time to show off. You're a little bit body fat. We started building the army last week. We ask for like the best in every category. So people are just like posting all their best ads. So there's just tall people coming in like yo I'm tall as hell and then really rich people coming in being like I'm ripped as hell.

Yeah and sometimes like I got 40 on the chimp test and I was like well that's a lie. That's amazing. Yeah it's a very good time. It's incredible. Also yes you count get in. Yeah. We like to call the podcast the podcast of champions. Okay. Yes, you count get in yeah, we like to call the podcast the podcast of champions Okay, we often find ourselves getting messages from like professional gamers sometimes athletes like oh big fan of the show

That's right. It's happened When does it happen the the Olympic qualifying speed climber for the USA? Is a fan of the art? Oh, you think that's funny this happened. This doesn't happen. You know I mean Oh, okay, you want to go funny? This happened. This doesn't happen. You know what I mean? Oh, okay. You want to go deeper in the bag. It's, yeah. You want to go deeper in the bag.

Imagine SSPM. She gets pretty high placing. This is like, I had sex in college and I'm like, yeah, I have sex. Yeah. I had sex. Well, now you're trying to big dick everybody here because Coco Goff is Ludwig. Another ad sub. And not a yard viewer.

Come on. Well, we don't know that. We don't know that. She ad sub. And not a Yard viewer. Come on. Just to be clear. We don't know that. She could be. Pretty sure about that. She could love our comedic stylings. When the camera keeps going, she goes, yeah, Yard podcast. They have the gay one, which is like,

they take her to leave it, but the bald one. Let's play the Binding of Isaac. She's a big fan of that one. So you haven't watched our show? No, not at all. Because it's funny, because people will send me stuff from your stream and it's like, this is like exactly what you guys said, you know, yesterday or in the future. We've heard through the grapevine that there's been episodes of our show that come out and

it's very soon after on your stream you say similar things. You know what it is? I bet it's like the human centipede of like content regurgitation. Right. Like you guys come up with it. Tastemakers. Tastemakers, exactly. People in my audience are like second in line. Then they type it in chat and I steal it.

Okay, okay. This can make sense. But I think that doesn't give you enough credit because like, where, okay, honestly, where would you put yourself in that poop tube? Yeah. What part of the centipede do you want to be in? I think I'd rather be in the front. If possible. Well, if it was just me and you. I'd still rather be at the front.

There's no middle. What do you want to be? The human Ouroboros. It's... You think it matters, like, if you were in the human centipede? You think it matters if you're like fourth or like 90th? I think so. Would you rather were in the human centipede you think it matters if you're like fourth or like 90th I think so It's better to be like in the 80s than number four

That's not that if I'm four I want to be one or like 97 if I'm fourth I'm getting like a LaCroix Level taste of what the guy ate. I'm like, okay, there's probably corn. But once I'm 90, I'm like, oh, a bile again. One is definitely the best. Undoubtedly. I think number two's the worst. Okay, like, imagine you're not moving up 90 to four. It's just not happening. What could happen is you go 90 to 89 to 88,

and are you really down to get sewn and re-sewn on every time? For the same reason that 90 to four is not happening is why you wanna to be 4. That's the front of the snowpiercer train. There is better food up there. You probably get more sunlight up there. Closer to the TV.

Yeah, closer to the TV. That's the sports center playing on the wall. Just sit in the back and be like, whoa, what a clip. It's not about social mobility, because I think once you're there, you're stuck. Yeah. No one's undoing the, maybe if someone dies, you're not. No, like yeah, no one's undoing the maybe if someone dies Is classically a caste system

Someone dies on 26. They're like do we have two groups of two for 26 and it's like maybe a lottery Do do young men in love? 69 with their butts. What the fuck are you? Yeah, please. I've never thought about this What the fuck? Are you- yeah please. I've never thought about this. I think they just do it like the same way. You think so. Why would they- why would they do it with their butt?

Because the butt is the hole of the guy. So when you're doing a 69 with a woman. Yes. Yeah. The butt is the hole. Why don't we do it the butt way? So get a little bit of content you never listen to. He's only ever done missionary

He's only ever research it you actually found out there's other positions last year. I just like that best Fucking jail me fucking put me in woke prison then his mission is the best is missionary in the Kama Sutra But did they even bother page one? Did they even bother? Page one, right? Is it page one? It's like prologue. There were many positions we did not include but would love to give honorable mentions to. That's why I always get put on trial here and it's not fair.

And you probably get the same thing because we're exactly the same. Because I'm married. Yeah. He actually treats you different though because like, Slime doesn't know a lot about YouTubers or Twitch streamers, but he's very willing to threaten the life or wish death upon all of them. You know? Not true. You've never seen a MrBeast video, correct? I've seen a couple, but like not by choice. I think I saw an old clip where you said, I've never seen a MrBeast video, so maybe since then you've seen some. I lie a lot.

Oh, okay. Sure, yeah. It's fun, it's fun to bet. I fucking love lying. I'm having a good time. But I want to say, he always, which is death, but upon you, he talked about you good. And you put him in a different bucket of slop in this world. Well, okay, I mean, there's a couple things going on.

One, I think we just have similar sense of humor, but also it's like he's the bj Scene say what it is. I talked about this literally I talked about this before you got here The swordfish blowjob scene in the movie swordfish with John Travolta Hugh Jackman It's funny cuz like I bring this up as like you should just know this to my friends, right? But a lot of my friends are younger than me like it Touched up I think if you were born in like 1987 and 1990, it was kind of, you remember where you were. It was like your guys' 9-11.

They also had 11. They also had 11. That was like the sequel. But yeah, I find myself often, kind of, I would say, or like on a media island, not that I'm like a huge movie head, but it's like when Swordfish came out and I was like 11 or whatever,

it was just what everyone watched. And it was on TV and then everyone just kind of gets that. But now it's different and I miss that. Also, I don't watch your stuff like raw. I get sent like clips. And also Librar librarian does a lot of work obviously the best publicist of all time and so that's how I like intake Northern Lion. Do you worry the librarian has a missile that is ready to launch and

hit your home? Uh no but that would be bad if it would happen. I wouldn't like it. If it happened I wouldn't like it. Have you met the librarian? No, I think I'm just very lucky. Like we're two independent entities both just doing what we do. It's just crazy to call you guys Their name is Library and they're very close. They're very close lades. Parallel though. They're intersecting. The librarian walking into their editing bay like flicking a bag of your blood and being like yeah okay yeah we're just separate entities. Me and Ry.

Real name Davis Clark. There's a mannequin that's coming to life in his basement. Do you ever just pass out and wake up somewhere? That's been known to happen but I'm getting up there. But you were talking about the swordfish scene. Yeah, basically I tried to use it as like, it's just like that scene. And then it's like this language that I feel like no one else speaks in the room, and then you have to explain it. And then that sucks.

But you have also talked about that scene in the same way of like just using it as a reference and that makes me feel comfortable That's what happens when you're a guy get a blowy when you're raised on me It's a metaphor for any high-pressure situation Because Hugh Jackman has been taken and he's probably explained it before I am We you watched it, but it was four years ago and your child so I watched it I show in the podcast this is what I have and it's called a TV and then he says chicken Jackie yeah Hugh Jackman is getting a he's he's he's has to hack a computer government in one minute it's the

Department of Defense, brother. Yes it is. It's a federal website. And he says, you know I can't touch that. Not to the website, to the keyboard. He's so dangerous when he touches the keys. Also, dude, when he's golfing on top of the RV in the desert, I was like, I want to live like that. Halle Berry's like, you missed your shot.

And he's like, yeah, well you're fucking up my chi. And I'm like, that's so cool. That's so cool. 2001 was so sick. It was different, man. Yeah. There were some lowlights. Yeah, there was...

Master of disguise. Yeah. Fuck the turtle shit, bro. Yeah, man. Go back to the piano thing. You're known for knowing stuff. Yeah, what is that? Do you have to like, keep up?

What is that all about? I think I had like a lot of internet access during the years where my brain was still developing. Yeah. So I would just like surf the web. Be like, what's coming out this weekend? Runtomatoes.com. I'm laughing at the same time.

Surf the web? We surf? You weren't there. I wasn't. I was in elementary school, we did a play, a musical play, about the internet. Yuck. I know, it sucked. And one of the choreographed moves-

Oh, imagine it being like a virus. That'd be a sin. No, we didn't have a virus. It was more a positive thing. But like, Mr. Gibson, my PA teacher, he had- I'm porn! He had us- He kicks out the door. I'm Mr. Gibson, I'm born now! Little Jamie does the best porn. We had to literally surf the web holding mice, invisible mice in front of our hands and that was the choreography.

That's sick. And that year was Carmen Sandiego. And that's the kind of shit that just like, like I hit the tail end of and you didn't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? Well I would have made a much better play about the internet. You didn't? I didn't make the play. I just got cast. We'd be dedossing the government. There'd be porn in every scene. It could actually be the Hugh Jackman bookjogsvn.com Yeah.

Book browsing Wikipedia. The teachers put on Swordfish, the musical. Did you pick that up when you walked in? I was in my underwear. When I saw the luggage that you guys were bringing? Yeah. Oh, dude. Can you please show us your luggage? Yeah fine

You're not gonna believe this I Think there's something magical about how he flies He insists to fly first class. It's not like a Okay, okay the few details I want to point out can we get a scent check? Did you did you get a scented bag? No, it's unscented. The scented ones are worse for traveling. Unscented bag probably less expensive. When you open up the the cabin, it's like... It is? Yeah. What's happening down here?

Uh, I got a... This is my, the MacBook slime got me actually, it's poking out. Yeah, so you chose to bottom pack that. Can you give me some insight into that? Oh no, it leaves a good base There's no bottom packing with the trash bag there absolutely is No, we're holding it from you just kind of jumble it in and it all make I put the clothes in first to be clear It just mixes. Oh, is that the beauty of the trash bag?

It just kind of falls to where it needs to be jeans jean. I just want to pull something random Yeah, I got some fun stuff in there. So he- so Northern Lion comes into this apartment. It's almost the top story of a Vancouver high-rise. I'm in my underwear because my jeans got wet. They're still wet. Uh, Aiden is wearing- You walked into this? I walked into this, yeah.

He was greeted by Aiden wearing those fucking pants. I'm sorry. And then Nick is attaching a- we cut a bed sheet and had to put it as a bounce. We- we- we cut a hole in the Airbnb's bed sheet. And then I'm the guy who says, sorry I'm late with the trash bag. I think you guys are well dressed and I'm just happy you're here. The trash bag is crazy though.

Don't you like freak out when they hit the gas on the airplane and all the shit goes to the back of the overhead bin? That it's all gonna like shatter or something? It's one of the beautiful things about the trash bag is it's gonna stay inside. I give it a little tie. Yeah, but there's like no cushion or zipper or anything.

I guess if you're always clutching it, they can't. Also not a beautiful thing about a trash bag. This is a beautiful thing about luggage maybe. The thing about luggage is I could not have used the luggage coming here Cuz I had my motorcycle helmet in that and you can't get a suitcase if it's a motorcycle helmet How did you carry it on the bike? That's honestly?

Good point I can't fit the helmet in the luggage you could strap it to the language just hold the helmet That's only that's less convenient than a bag. Look, my shit is awesome, and you guys are jealous. The only bad thing about it is when exiting the airport, I got some judgmental questions from CBS. You got shaken. CBSA.

CBSA. So what does that stand for? It's the Canadian Bureau of Stopping Terrorism. Errorism is what they call it. Errorism. That's good. They're clever here. They are smart. Yeah, they stop me and they go, uh, to the trash bag.

And I was like, it's all my stuff. He's like, that's a weird choice. I was like, yeah. I also got grilled in the airport, which I wanted to talk about, because we were going through, the lines are very gray about whether or not we're here working and cuz you can't just come I think that you think they're great. They're very Ends up in evidence somewhere. I didn't know this until I got abducted this man This man

And you're like cool glad you guys were here I Was like I'm gonna walk in here and it's like I'm never gonna be seen again It is a man in his underwear who could be ready to harvest a liver. Yeah, I Say my w9 so you can pay me. You sent me a picture of a dog picture of a dog with glasses. Yeah, that's my W9. It's a little bit of a... After Doge, it's like a cicada puzzle. You have to find it in the metadata. Well, okay, so I'm in the airport and they... So this guy goes through and he's like, yeah, you're clear. You're yeah, great. He goes through. He's like, bald, sure, fine. We're fine with that. I go up to the guy and he goes, uh, so why are you here? And I'm like, oh, just visiting a friend. And that was my crucial mistake.

Is I said visiting a friend, not said here with friends. This was my crucial mistake. He goes, who's your friend? And now I'm like, well, I don't know if I wanna say. You wouldn't know him. I don't know if I wanna say like, yeah. That's actually fine. You hang out in circles, you don't hang out with a group.

I've been on class actually. Well, you can see the screenshot on the high rise, you don't hang out with a coot. That's, that's, I've been on class actually. Well, that, that would be weird. You could just sit in a screen show in the high rise. I don't know, it's the same school as me. It's true, you wouldn't. I didn't want to say like, like a, like Northern Lion, like a streamer, cause it's just a big, in my head in the moment, again, I'm not thinking like, clearest to mine, I'm being pressured. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, oh, it's just a online friend.

And he goes, oh, you met them online. Where online did you meet them? And at this point, his tone is like very like, like he's trying to grill me. He's not being nice. And I'm like, I met him on, I'm like, do you know the website Twitch? And he's like, I know Twitch. How do you meet someone on Twitch?

It's not really a website you meet people. And I was like, I was just in his chat. And he's like, you met in his chat. And I'm like, yeah. And he's like, that's weird. I feel like people don't usually meet in chat. I'm like yeah he's like that's weird I feel like people don't usually meet in chat I'm like oh no it's popular happens all the time we met you know discord after something he's like how many times have you met him in person I'm like first time actually I went first time actually oh first time and I'm so deep. These are all quick time events. You're failing every one. I'm answering them. The only thing about taking the race is that I'm not taking any time to think. And so I'm like,

uh, yeah, no, it's my first time meeting him actually. And he goes, first time? Wow. He's like, so what does he stream on Twitch? And I was like, Pokemon. And he's like, Pokemon, what's his name on Twitch? And the first thing I thought of was, oh, Twisty. Come on, what's his name on Twitch? And the first thing I thought of was, oh, Twisty. And I'm like, he's like, so he literally said, he goes, Twisty. I'm like, yeah, Twisty. And he's like, huh.

He like, he starts looking through my passport. There's info in there. He has an R he sees. It's a picture of Twisty. It's a stick drawing of you guys. And he's like, so he goes back. He goes goes so twisty's the chatter or you're the chatter and I'm like I was chatter he goes oh, he's the streamer. I'm like twisty's the streamer and he's like right He's I think he's a hundred percent aware. I'm lying honestly

And really it's coming in one time. I'm just answering so quickly yeah, yeah, uh, I can't remember where I went from there, but he asked me a few more questions, and then he's like, uh, he's like, so you've never been here before, it's your first time, yeah, and he's like, okay, and he hands you back the passport, and I make it through. Yeah. And he's like, be careful. The twisty guy sounds a little weird. The twisty guy's not real, so.

Also, he faked his nuzlocke, so I know this. The same thing happened to me, and I think it's a good protocol. Because I think the protocol is basically, if someone has met someone online and they're coming here, vet it. Yeah. Because you could meet someone online, and it's like, yeah, I'm supposed to marry this person I met online. You mean trafficked or something.

Yeah, you're being trafficked or whatever. Because I did the same thing. I went through, they said, what are you here for? I said, I'm just visiting friends. which I don't know why I think I Should not have lied. Yeah Default lied I default lied. Yeah, he was like we do have like visit friends. That's fine. Yeah, but you are here I'm very specifically here on a State Farm sponsored shoot. Before work getting paid a lot of money from State Farm.

And also, but yeah, I went through and I said visiting friends and then they go, where'd you meet? I went online and then I could tell the tone switch. He went, ooh. And then I go and I stopped it because I go, ow, we met before. And then he was like, oh, okay, that's great. And then he let me through. I like that.

Damn. And I lied, because I never met you a damn day in my life. That's true. But I shaved my head bald, and I feel like I made it closer. Yeah, he asked me how many viewers Twisty had. I said five. That's funny to ask how many viewers.

Why are you so dog to Twisty, bro? And then he goes, wow, five people, small stream, and I'm like early adopter 50k 50k My checks are really fun meeting kaisen that I can feel myself inside the YouTube video right now, and then they're saying they're saying let let Northern Lion talk so Figure time to bring you back in you got a gay son thought daughter Lion talk so figure time to bring you back in. Gay son thought daughter.

I've had the question many times in chat. Did you guys invent this? Is this one that I stole from you? No, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This one, you wouldn't believe it, but we thought this up. Was us.

When he shaved his head, did it, did you feel a spiritual connection or is he larping? He started talking about stuff that I thought was fucking real. He was saying stuff like it's harder to be bald than it is to have hair And I was like nobody else is saying it when we say it they don't believe it They don't believe it bro. They don't listen And you know what you're also right about is uh Balding is worse than being bald 100% yeah. Oh yeah, also Don't fucking chime in

Oh it's just terrible Finally we're the cool kids I'm nauseous here Yeah, oh, yeah, also fucking chime in Cool kids Got enough hair for the room All right, let me ask your tech is it I use Gillette fusion five The five blade razor the good-ass one Right. What do you do? Uh just an electric trimmer. No way. Yeah, it's sloppy I just don't have a lot of hair. I think is what it comes down to Are you to use the the one that was like a race car the race car suck the head blade? Yeah, I didn't like that one. It was fun to use. It's also expensive shaving your head with race cars. Yeah, it wheels

We're talking adult toy Yeah, it's way for adults. Uh yeah, for adults. When did you start losing it? I remember the first day I moved into my dorm in university, so I'm meeting my roommate for the first time. Flashback you've long. I'm Joe Boss. It wears grease on you. Have you ever seen swordfish? I just saw swordfish far out.

Dude, the broke person? I wish. He was putting up, I swear this is true, he was putting up a poster of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. Oh my god. This was like September 2006 and I was like, oh that's not gonna play. They all are a philosophers country. Philosophers zone. And so I knew his name because we like emailed on the university website or whatever and I was like hey I'm Ryan and he was like hey are you losing your hair?

No way. That's crazy. And I was like nah I just like it's always been thin thin. And I was like born with a widow's peak. Yeah. And then like a year after. So I was 17 at that time. And then I shaved it off at like 19. Damn, that's early.

You deny it for a little bit, and then you catch yourself in like a shop window or something on a windy day. And you're like, maybe there's something to that. When it blows up? And then you're like did you become lifelong friends of that roommate after? uh, we lived together for a while he's an interesting guy for sure

um how did he turn out? uh, really well not bald? not bald son of a bitch well actually no, I think he actually is bald now it's catching up

it's fucking good you should send him a text I don't have his number unfortunately he's a nice guy if he's watching this. It's been a while. And you're balding. Do you get people reaching out from like your youth and stuff being like, damn, I saw you saying something funny in a coin dozer amusement park simulator.

I did. It's a weird bit, but I had someone in my chat that was typing, like all caps, that was like, we sat next to each other in the eighth grade I was in your class in the eighth grade this went on for like a couple days And then I didn't hear from them for a while so I went in I slash user their username so I can see everything they've ever written and There was like a hundred messages of that and then like five messages where they were just starting to type jokes And I was like they've been perfectly assimilated

And then like five messages where they were just starting to type jokes, and I was like they've been perfectly assimilated chat environment I didn't know you I didn't know you Just terraforming there is nowhere to go from that saying I said I see the earth curious like hell yeah This is Ruba stands I Got a I told this story on the pod before, but I got 9-11 spoiled for me by a person. By the Taliban.

But no, no, it was by Lauren. Her name was Lauren in class. Basically, we all got shuffled into homeroom. And Mr. Donahue, he's, it's like this great grave atmosphere. We don't know what's going on, because we don't have like phones and shit. And he's like, and he's about We don't know what's going on cause we don't have like phones and shit and he's like And he's about to speak and Lauren raises her hand and she was actually a grade ahead So she was a year younger than everyone and she said mr. Donahue did terrorists attack the World Trade Center?

And mr. Donahue his moment his great moment to add this to story. He's like yes The greatest thing is lauren's been asking that every day for like He's like yes, the crazy things lores been asking that every day for like It's like one of those accounts like is the minecraft movie What was your was like for you well, I'm in Canada so We were like out at recess And I remember we lined up to go back into the school and the teachers started talking and it was like something was not right and then they had a Mr. Donahue moment where someone with actual like authority was able to break the news

to us a little bit more appropriately. Yeah. And without stealing the spotlight. Did the girl in your class do it with a phone? Is that how she found out? I don't fucking know. They didn't have phone back then 2001 oh my god. I just didn't even think about it. I was just thinking about him cuz I mean how would she know as a student

Well, are you talking about Lauren bin Laden? Reached out to her on Facebook Like years ago after we did this and I told that story and I asked her if she remembered and she's like I do Not remember but that is funny Yeah, the school even get closed out for that for Canadians a few years now, yeah, we rode out the day Sleep that night cuz I was like worried that the Taliban was gonna crash like an airplane into my house. Yeah they didn't even do it. Is it that kind of show? Let's go back to the 80s. Dude I'm just a couple of

Canadian I was four so I wasn't even in school and I remember seeing it on the TV and like my parents talking about it, but I didn't it didn't really register You're just like looking at a CRT TV with like two buildings burning on it. I remember like yesterday I had shit in my pants I was drooling all over myself You'd watching two Canadians talk to each other. It's like it's it's just two dogs in the park that know that No, exactly. This is like my country. That you're in and you're insulting us. I'm not insulting! Dogs are beautiful and all is dogs. You people are like dogs? Does that make sense?

You started talking about different provinces and etc. How do you say it like that? That's how they say it. What? We gave each other a sniff downstairs? What's wrong with the classic Canadian green anemones? I see you're from Ontario originally. This is a normal thing. It happens for Americans too. Like a New Englander, you'll be like, oh I'm from New Hampshire.

You'll be like, oh I'm from Connecticut. And then you'll find the one place you've both been to. And then you'll be like, ah. And then it ends. So it's like, it's just a ramp up to a hopefully another conversation a gateway If you will do you think you'd be best friends with that man. I don't see why not. That's a good answer Mm-hmm. You really not see why not? Roast in his pants, I think they're pretty good

Who is your best friend in the whole world? My wife. She's like your daughter? Interesting. You can't have two best friends. My daughter's not gonna watch this, but my wife might watch this. I just know my wife longer, to be honest. You said you took her to Minecraft.

It's funny because when I saw Minecraft, I saw in a very, like a bougie, like luxury theater that it's very quiet. It's funny because I, when I saw Minecraft, I saw in a very like a bougie like luxury theater that it's very quiet. It's mostly adults. So when Chicken Jockey happened, it was just, ah, that's funny. They snapped. Really? For you it was a madhouse, you said. Oh, it was crazy. They snapped was really good. I like that.

Okay, yeah. Thanks. They freaked out at your theater? Yeah, it wasn't quite like popcorn garbage bags and stuff like that. But it was like, it wasn't quite like popcorn garbage bags and stuff like that But it was like it was loud Yeah, the reports I'm getting a friend of a friend She she called and told me about her experience at the movie because she just knows we do the podcast and her showing was so Rowdy in the first 15 minutes that they shut down the movie

Whoa, they didn't get to watch it. Before Chicken Jockey have happened? Before Chicken Jockey even got to happen. They refunded everybody. Chicken Jockey, every 80% has been labbed to the smallest amount of time possible. You really go in, it's just like, gun. It's like, all right, yeah, 0.1. You rented the Minecraft movie. There was a group of 40 teenage boys that came in, and they're walking around the theater.

They're being rowdy. And then a couple of them started ripping the N-words, so they just shut the lights down. Whoa! At the mine camp? Better act on mine camp! Damn. You know what, that's evil. We were talking about, like, movie experiences, cause it's hard to go, obviously if you have a kid, and also people just don't like going. But I remember, I saw it when Star Wars came out again, The Force Awakens, right? And I saw it like two weeks after it came out.

And I'm going on there on a date, and there's like five people in the theater. And the credits scroll in the beginning starts rolling. And there's one guy behind us, whoo! And like, no one cares, but we've done this already. And then he's like, there's like a pause, he's like, wait, I've waited my whole life for this! And it was insane. That's awesome.

That's how Ludwig is. Yes, that is true. Don't put that on me. Don't put that on me. You're like the guy who tries to make a joke in the trailers so that everyone in the audience knows you're like- Yes, we did this at Sinners. Dude, I did a trailer played at Sinners

and he leans over and loud whispers to me. He goes, yeah we should see that. It looks good, we should see that. Yeah, I like acting like an annoying prick in the theater. And after every trailer I go, no. And he has a laugh he only uses in movies. I fucking hate the movie. So we saw Sinners and one of the characters falls from a balcony and he goes, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA I saw a Jojo Rabbit in the movie theater that's just behind us

With the clock on the ceiling See and the dude behind us. I swear to God 15 minutes left in the movie just started beating off At Jojo Rabbit? Dude what? That movie has Hitler and a kid It's probably when Hitler's on the screen Dude that's crazy What happened? We just waited until the end and then left.

You just gotta ride it out. Turning around like, shhh. Instead of like, in the beginning it shows the coke and like the little snacks walking. Just please silence your meat. It's like CeraVe. It's like the lotion. Trying to get you to buy shit from the consistent. That's what's so good about Pee Wee Herman. It didn't take him out. That's how he died.

Lowkey, kind of was. Maybe the beginning of the end. It certainly wasn't a SART. But if a man- They didn't give a deal after it. If Jerry the Chair comes from a man's mind, you know he's probably beating off in a movie theater. Wasn't it like a porn theater? Wasn't it all on the level. That's the thing like but you're not so Fred Willard. Who's that? He's the he's older guy from best in show. He was Phil's dad on Modern Family Okay, but you're not supposed to beat off in them. Oh, I'm not supposed to beat off in the porn theater But it's like what's next? You can't beat off in the porn theater?

No, you're not supposed to. I shouldn't get wet at the water park, I guess, now, either. That's what- What else shouldn't we do? This is different. It's like when they tell you not to go in the hot tub if you have diarrhea. You're like, I'm on vacation. Yeah, I'm gonna go in the hot tub. Or on your period.

Were you guys ever told that? Why did you- Why did you- It's a long story. It's context. It's context missing. We all just learned what that was. So, we're really, we're on the period thing now. Yeah, Okay, yeah. We did whine about it. We learned about it.

Don't spoil it. We learned about it. We learned about it. I taught them about female anatomy. The Diva Cup goes crazy when you look at that chapter. Did you know what that was? Do you know about Diva Cups? No, that is crazy.

I knew about it. Were you the only one who didn't know? Really? I did not know about a Diva Cup at all. Wait, you didn't know about Diva Cups before this week? No, no, no, no. No, that's a point- Not as a point of pride. I just didn't know it was like that. I've known so much about tampons though. I wanna see. I put it on like a little hat. You did wear it like a hat. You did. I wore it like a little hat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was trying to ride a wheel to get him back. So you're known for Noah's stuff. Do you have to keep up on Noah's stuff? Is that like a pressure?

I think I stopped like learning new stuff as quickly as it exits my brain. You were grinding movies though. I've been watching a lot of movies. You're up to date man. Like you'll pull out- you'll talk about like faze banks. I know a little bit about- he was glazing net spend with the gap behind it. The gap behind it of course. It's all happened. There's photo evidence. He was glazing net spin You say shit 36 year olds aren't supposed to say yeah, right in a way it's the charm I feel like It's kind of interesting like I might be the only 36 year old you know I like when you're But that's obviously false cuz you're almost there. I am yeah 35 tomorrow. Oh

You're not as close as I thought never mind. I'm not gonna age you before your time. Oh, please. I think when you're 25, or when I was 25, I didn't know anything about 36-year-olds. I knew my parents who were in their 50s, and then my friends who were all 25. So I think I have an obligation or a responsibility for my chat to be a cool 36-year-old.

To be like, hey, you might have a blind spot for what people this age are like. So you're in a way like what they have to look for. Does a 36 year old be like, when you hang out with one or become one? You can be like, have fun playing games, have a cool family, be normal, be funny. But there's a line.

And still talk about how he glazed Netsmith. Yeah. You can do it all. There's a line where you cross though, and then you become brain-wrought 36 year old. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, do you know about Bean House? I don't know Are you just at like the children's birthday party and then like Susie's like the game last night

And you're like you disgusting normie fuck. No no I'm like I think that I kind of annoy like the other parents that are they have kids in my daughter's school because I'm like Everybody that I know is a streamer and I don't want to ask them anything because I already know But then they'll be like I work at the bank and I'm like, oh shit What's that like? You're gonna talk to you about the bank And there's a there's a kind of a fun in that you do keep kind of insulated like Ludwig's Ludwig had a relationship with an older man

from Taiwan. And it was sexually driven mostly. But it was beautiful! I would like to give... No it's not. It's a tonal language. It was this old guy that Ludwig just weirdly went on hikes with.

And we all made fun of him for it, but truly we understood later on that he just wanted someone that was like out of the matrix of yeah Shit, right. How is he doing? Tumla I haven't talked to him since New Year, but he had a good Chinese No, no American one American one. He's Taiwanese people. That's a long time It's more talking about the mainland position of you know little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little, little and stretch and then he would also do that because it's apparently an activity generally held for 60 plus years. Well I'm stretching, you're stretching, why don't we stretch each other out? I love shows up in brand new Lululemons with the tag still on like yeah stretching that's what I used to do this morning.

I got my trash bag. He told me about suitcases. Yeah no I'd go to him for Sage Wisdom and it's way more fun to talk to him for sure than a streamer because he lives such a different life. Yeah. So you stream. You stream four hours, whatever it is. You stream, you get offline. What time is it? Two. Two? Okay, it's 2 p.m. and then what now? Walk me through it. I eat, I might record like a couple. You cooking at home? Yeah. Okay. My wife cooks, I cook. We order in now and then. We're a lot Like I know no vegan no every day. I eat every day. Oh, you do me vegetarian vibe. No, okay No, I I don't know what it is the baldness. Yeah, definitely that always some shit He gives me the der vibes. Yeah, it used to be hella buff vibes. Mmm. There was could you bench you 25 on one point? 225 my bench was pretty bad. were you squatting? I could squat like 400. That's insane. Oh my god.

That's insane. You talked it's like a it's a calf buff from walking on your toes Like You just can't go as low to the ground That's what I was saying. Don't defend yourself. You can't go as low but your calves get fucking oof juicy I always I don't know if you're the exact same but like sometimes people will be like bend your knees I can only bend them like I don't know like five degrees or ten degrees Wait, I can I well it hurt like this is excruciating. Yeah, but yeah

Yeah, yeah because the calf muscle is stretching. It's usually contracted cuz you're on your toes. Do you not feel that? I feel but not like excruciating. I barely feel it. It's heavy. What are you talking about? You have high arches too? You do this straighten your leg legs you feel it in your yeah Go ahead take your socks off So you see some food in the midst now it's 330 record a couple of like YouTube let's plays like it's still 2013 yeah couple of like bespoke. At what point do you watch a fucking movie? In the morning.

Cause I've watched you play Cindy Nertle and I'm like, how are you doing that? This is not a joke, but I wake up at like five in the morning. Yeah. And I like go to the bathroom, get on the Peloton and I just watch a movie on the bike. Wow.

And I'm off by like seven thirty. And are you like, are you going like, let's dip into the archive with watch That's like an old thing. I haven't seen that sometimes I told like cultural touchstone that I haven't touched yet, or are you like thinners just came out on torrent, and I'm gonna get it Oh, I don't I'm not tech savvy enough to get that working on my phone yet Alright peloton well it you're you're starting to pull on the You're you're starting to pull on the whole ball of wool

Jail-breaking peloton so you're doing the class at the same time well the peloton has I don't know like a 19 inch screen or something Like that, but they don't have like all the video streaming apps No, so I put on like a scenic ride, and then I watch it on my phone propped up But then some days you get like a Netflix movie so it's a treat cause you get big screen. Uh, I- you never go for Netflix movies. I would just go straight on my phone. That's crazy. Did you at least got like a folding phone or- I saw the green text that you sent me. Did I have an Android? Yeah.

He's a cowboy. And I'm watching all sorts of stuff where I'm like I shouldn't be watching this at like 5 in the morning. Like I watch Green Room on Saturday. watching this said like 5 in the morning They watch green room 5 a.m. Er 5 45 in the morning slice straight up the belly I watched like train spotting like a terrible 5 a.m. Er first half was kind of like a laugh riot Right after that I was like this is not a good idea. That baby's not supposed to be there. I was thinking this today, in Requiem at the end, the guy who just ends up in jail has the best deal out of everyone. Because Jared Leto loses an arm, and Jennifer Connelly obviously has to go tip to tip like Michael Reeves in Ludwig.

But he's just in jail dealing with withdrawals. I've never seen the movies. Have you not seen it? It's exactly the same. It is heartwarming. You're gonna love it. I'll watch it with QT. I should watch.

Oh, you've never seen it? That's evil. I've only listened to the song while grinding the spears. It's tough. Will you watch stuff you've already seen? Yeah, sometimes. Okay. Because you get in that cycle of like, I don't want to watch this, I don't want to watch

this. You just want to find something like I will I often rewatch movies that I'm comfortable like falling asleep during or or I'm like I can walk away In the middle of this oh, yeah, I cuz I can't I will stay up till 5 a.m. If it means finishing the movie I can't go to sleep during a movie if I haven't seen it. Yeah No, no, I'm like I started it. I'm like I won't watch the rest finishing on the peloton though Finishing the movie yes. Yeah, you are yeah, Wait you rip an entire movie you peloton the whole time Yeah, it's two-hour film. You're the Irishman. I'm sorry. You're finishing the Irishman I probably wouldn't finish the Irishman

But if it's like a two-hour movie, I would do the 90 minutes and then like after my kid goes to school I'll watch the 30 minutes before the peloton. It's true. Yeah, it changed your life. This is the peloton has not always existed Yeah, that's true. I used to be a lot fatter. Do you have Peloton friends? Do you have people you keep... We have a Northern Lion team that rides. This is like Mango.

Mango does the same thing. As your therapist, you guys, I think we need to start the new year off right. No, I don't want to start it off right. I hate my throuple. Okay, you hate the throuple. You don't even provide anything. Neither of you provide anything. All you hate the throuple. You don't even provide anything. You don't even provide anything. All you do is spend my money.

I sp- It's my money. Guys, guys, you're so disorganized. We need to start prioritizing. Okay, look. How much money do you guys think that you spend on unwanted subscriptions? $400,000. Nothing. A month. Zero.

See, we've gone too far on both sides of the spectrum and now you've made it hard for me, the therapist, to do the ad read. But it's actually a lot more than even that you said. It's actually $500,000, Ludwig. Oh. Because you spend it on subscriptions? Well, yeah. You spend it on TV subscriptions?

But do you know, this is therapy, they teach you it in school, you can just download Rocket Money and it just solves all your problems. Well, that's great and all, but I can't keep track of what he's doing and cancel what he's doing, okay? I just have one card, I'm one man. Yeah, but you can all have your own Rocket Money accounts and it'll tell you all your unwanted subscriptions. Will it tell me if they're cheating on me? Nope, doesn't do that.

I could do that though, I'm the therapist. Okay, are they cheating on me? What if I pay him a subscription and not cheat on me? Yes. No. You whore. Yeah, well, and it's not just you three. Yes. No. You whore. Well, and it's not just you three.

Over 74% of people have subscriptions that they didn't even know they had. And they got rid of them. I was also one of these people. I was, I'm a therapist and I was subscribed to BetterHelp. I don't need that shit. I'm a therapist. Why don't you just do it for yourself? I got a mirror. It's hard. It's like $5.

Way cheaper than that. No, I need that at all. I'm about it in the mirror. I got a mirror. It was at Target for like $5. Way cheaper than that. Do you think you can sell your better health? No, I need that at all. I'm about to cancel these subscriptions like I'm gonna cancel our marriage to each other. No, don't. We can work this out. Rocket Money has over five million users, Aiden, and it saved a total of $500 million

in canceled subscriptions. Interesting. That's $1 million per person. Saving members up to $740 a year when using all the app features. How many marriages has it saved, I wonder? Well, I'm hoping it saves one here today, boys. Are you down to sign up with me?

Where do you sign up, even though I'm the therapist and I should know? I would assume you go to rocketmoney.com slash the yard, which is the name of your therapy site. Why? And you use code the yard. So you go to rocketmoney.com slash the yard and you can cancel your unwatched subscriptions,

reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money and you can go to hell because I'm changing this thrumple to a couple. Rocket it's like therapy for your money I love you say it back now did you hit a stinky 90 kg 90 uh well I don't know what that is in here's one that are you pounds here the Canadian is asking the American to put it in pounds yeah 200 pounds yeah I was probably like 220 wow right after my daughter was born. So I was bulking and lifting heavy in 2019. And then COVID happened, so I stopped going to the gym.

And then we had a kid. Well, your kid, it's called a protective bulk. Right, it's a bad bod. It happens in nature. Wait, is that a real thing? It's a shield bulk. Yeah, you feel like you could take a bear for But it's like a real thing in in the animal kingdom. Yeah humans. I feel like it's a thing that humans say

It happens to people cuz you know who's gonna let like half a quesadilla go to waste Yeah, your kid decides they don't want to yeah, you got a form. We're back. Oh, we're back on the gorilla thing Do you think that I was gonna ask this earlier does the human centipede, if there was a hundred of them, does it change the argument? There's a hundred human centipedes? A hundred people in a human centipede against the one gorilla. Like can we wrap them like a boa constrictor? I guess those people are ready to die at any point anyway. They're so weak in feeble. What if they win they get separated? And then so they gotta want it? They gotta want it. Can you imagine them like going up on their own in Dark Souls the needle bone bone yeah the front the

only guy doesn't want to be there like okay no no no you think you're rising like a centipede they're just falling back on each other because him or me is on the bottom and our calves you got a him or me is on the bottom. And our calves are on the bottom. If the guy on the bottom is strong enough, he can just... start swinging the 99 around like it's Bowser. Uh, yeah.

We've all come to the same conclusion, right, that the gorilla would win? No, well people are saying that we have endurance as humans and the gorilla would tire out and he had seven guys on his neck done. The hundred men would win. The gorilla would win. The hundred men. The problem is that

this conversation, the ink has already dried on the t-shirts and it's like it's gonna be, by the time this comes out we'll have solved it. Someone had positioned the new question last night which was two hundred men versus a polar bear. And then I said, clea- I mean, polar bear. Oh, so you believe it's 200 guys?

Aw, dude. 200 guys like me, we're fuckin- They're tool-less guys. We're suckin' it- we're throwin' it to bed. Yeah, no tools. That polar bear is goin' down. Polar bear wins. I'm saying they- the humans got- yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. Hear me out here, okay?

Okay. You're gonna lose a few guys. That's a given. Oh, 100%. Yeah. So you got a few guys at the front, distracting the polar bear, and then like 20 guys straight into the side while it's distracted. Once it's over... Punching its ribs like Ludwig at a coffee shop. Exactly, if someone recognized you.

And then once it gives up its back, it's over. No disrespect, your punch doesn't even affect a polar bear. I think the point still stands that a true feel it a couple true But a couple true believers in the front couple guys like me. No, you're Brett's you got your Tyler's. They're all on the front line They're getting absolutely Yeah, they're trying to take a bite out of the polar bear they go first in the back you got your feels polar bear is Exhausted by then. Yeah Sounded like it was above us

I was gonna ask you your viewership these like now it's just like way It's so big is that change things for you, or you're just like, I'm the same dude? I think it's exactly the same. I honestly think it's just like the librarian has taken these rambling non-sequiturs and processed them into a more digestible form so that more people can actually get exposed to it, and a certain percentage of them are like,

wow, this actually isn't as annoying as I thought it would be. Maybe I'll give it a try. What are your haters like? I asked Ludwig in what the other day I was like do you think Northern Lion has haters and he's like on his phone as a guest of course he does. And I'm like why? Why would they hate him? He's cool. They probably call him boring. I don't know. Yeah boring or like he thinks he's better than other people. I give off like an air of smugness or like superiority. Once you start knowin' shit. People get mad when you start knowin' shit.

It's hard, they get offended because like, because they don't know shit. I see it as like a character flaw that sometimes I use big words. I'm like, it would be better to use a smaller word. This is a key plot. This is a key plot. Yeah, this is a key plot point.

Yeah, I haven't seen it. Really? On the bike maybe, I'll watch it. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's a slog. Don't do it on the bike. Really? Nah, just maybe always. Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's a slog. Really? Nah.

I'll tell you, Marques eats it twice. He eats it twice. That's an important plot line. You don't want to hold on to it. Don't worry about it. Okay. It's like a human centipede thing? Kind of.

Okay. Kind of. But I was wondering, because some, I will get sent, because when you mention me, people will be like, Northern Lion's talking about sly, and they want their dollies to kiss pretty much. But it's always flattering, and it's always funny, but you talk about how my attitude towards, I guess, online culture, which is a very extreme way to deal with it,

but I think that you tend to believe in my ethos, but you muzzle yourself. Yeah. I mean, I would like to say, I would like to have the courage to say some of the things you say in with the exact verbiage that you say them. So you wish death on Colin and Samir? Um... Oh, they now broke the conclusion. I wanted them to take a breathtaking paramotor trip over the pyramids. In over lines words, they should devour feculence.otor trip over the pyramids.

They should devour feculence and perhaps die on the way out. You are truly turning 30 this year if that's your bit. I'm getting there. One thing that comes up a lot is like when I'm arguing with someone in chat I'll read everything they've ever written. Yeah. To get like a picture of their personality. Yeah.

Maybe like their weaknesses and their vulnerabilities and stuff. They're never ready. You scan their body. Yeah, exactly. And then they tell you something like, oh, that's weird. They like concern troll you. They're like, are you okay? That's not, ah, you're sick. You must be insecure. It's like, no, I'm just fascinated. Do you ever have a time where you remember vividly getting so owned by chat?

Yesterday. They started, they went on strike, which is annoying. So fucking annoying. Just started typing like dots over and over. No! Yeah, so for like an hour I just said this. For what action, what action did you do that? Nothing, they just thought it'd be funny. What a headache.

Yeah, and I was like, oh, now I'm on YouTube. And that's why NL's anti-union. You gotta stop them from having the conversations amongst themselves. I felt like I broke them. The first 10 minutes was a struggle, but after that I got into a groove. And I was like... I felt like I was hitting the QTEs, I was segwaying myself in the new topics of conversation. And I was like, I could do this all day.

I could see the confidence was wavering. Does chat help a lot? Is like the... Cause you're... When Ludwig shaved his head and did a trick shot to like, you know, be you as a bit, people were saying he just doesn't have the yap in him. Mm, OK. And do you think that, I mean, without the chat, is the yap really... Cause you were doing that without the chat for years.

Yeah, I think like, cause I made so many YouTube videos. So many. Without like any chat to help, you just sort of develop the muscle, I think like cuz I've made so many YouTube videos so many without like any chat to help you just sort of develop the muscle I guess Blood blood only had dr. Battle That's all you had back in the day. Then you could yeah. Well, I mean, that's like your first chatter Yeah, it's my very first shadow my first subscriber But I mean like I do think it's similar when you're a super small streamer because you are just talking hoping someone will die Sure yeah

Chad didn't know that I think that's gotta be hard Did you never have zero viewers because you went from YouTube to Twitch? Exactly I kind of started with a little bit of a push I think on YouTube you're like no one could possibly see this and respond until it's out Yes But on Twitch aren't you kind of just like you're keeping like the lie alive?

Yeah, you're like pretending people are watching and talking. No, I remember the- You're saying hey guys before there's any guys. Yeah. Which you should do, right? Like ultimately you shouldn't like act like the Canadian escalators

where they don't move till someone steps on it. Right, yeah. And they're also environmentally friendly. Guys, pull us up, what should I play? Yeah. It's like, I said it to four hours, so just go ahead ahead take your time. Yeah, that's what led to the...

It's my most fond memory of getting destroyed in chat is I was talking, I was doing my thing, I was streaming, and I was playing Toontown. My chat, which was like six people, were like, play Toontown. So I did it. Everyone left. I was down to like 11 viewers. All like Chat telling you to play a game that immediately failing is so fun I went from like 20 viewers to like 11 and 8 and and I had two monitors But they're spaced apart so I was like playing here and I'd look over at chat and I looked over like two times and just You know nothing there nothing there and then I go over this new message I read it and it goes stop looking over here. Nobody's typing And then I go over this new message. I read it and it goes stop looking over here. Nobody's typing

Next day I change my monitors positioning so it'd be like Ever since that I've had it like that That's sick. I got the once I was not you a clip. I was playing melee, which I haven't really played in a while, but it's like fucking 2 a.m. And I'm playing and someone asked do you think Queen Latifah could sleep you and I'm losing in Melee So I'm instantly like dude shut the fuck up stop talking to me And I I thought about that clip a lot and I was like you know what I should be answering questions like that It's fine. It's fun to do that. I have chilled out Immensely and I just wanted to say that out loud. It's true. He used to be a psychopath. We used to stream together. He would lean over me and ban someone from like 30 scrolls ago.

But they were mean! They were mean! I think my favorite period of this was he used to stream Valorant all the time. And in Valorant rank games, when you held tab, you could see the ranks of all the people in the lobby. So you can see like your teammate, oh, my teammates in gold, like your rank. So if somebody's watching and they're wondering what rank you are, they really just have to wait a few seconds for you to click tab

and then you could just check it out, right? But, and people would ask all the time and you would get annoyed. I would say maybe naturally so. It's like, why are you asking? Just wait, you can look, you don't need to ask me. But then they took the ranks away and it we were like a week or two into this but you're still streaming Valorant like normal and you

would still get super mad and ban those people like unload just just wait and look at the scoreboard and these poor guys have no scoreboard to look at anymore if I if I turn on a video game and I stream it and I think I'm in the mindset of I am just a guy playing a game to record it or whatever, now everyone is my enemy. You shouldn't even be here. But then if you're just like, no, it's okay if people watch you, then I don't freak out anymore. So I've done that this whole year. So we're growing. You're on the peloton. I'm on the mental peloton. I have a question because you've been streaming, you've been in the streaming minds for a long time.

Yeah. And you've worked there for what, how much of your working life have you been in the minds? Like 90%. Okay. Holy shit. I had a few like normal jobs, but they were like pretty short.

Oh my God. Summer jobs between like school years and stuff. What'd you study? Biology. Ooh. That's fair. I have an English degree, which is the biology degree of words. I think an English degree is better.

The biology degree is like you can't really do anything with it. It's only funny because it's unusable. Yeah, it's like a fake practical degree. Like it doesn't do anything. Do you still remember shit about RNA? I think it goes in the 3 prime to 5 prime direction. Whatever the fuck that means. Let's fucking go.

I don't even think that's alright. You could've gotten into it. Gone to do science. Exactly. You need to see 3 to 5 primes in the chat right now. But I mean, now that you're... As far as streamers go, you're like on the older end Your old lady who plays Skyrim every day

Do you know my dad? God bless you, God bless you. I have a question, do you know my dad? If we're being honest, if we're being honest, 36 isn't very old, right? Like if you have any normal job, if you're 36 at that job, you're not in like the older group of people usually. So when you imagine what your job is going to be like, are you, you're like, yeah, I'm going to be streaming and making YouTube videos 10 years from now, 20 years from now. Do you ever think about that part?

Yeah, it's very bizarre. Like maybe in 2015, I got paranoid that this was all like a bubble, the whole industry. But also like my place within it, because I'm like, there's no barrier to entry. Anybody could just be better. Any young cocksucker with good hair. Yeah, I got a lot of disadvantages.

I used to get smart. I watch movies! So like, I went to night school to learn computer programming for like three years. Oh wow. And then I was like, at least if the streaming thing falls apart, I can pivot to that. And now I'm like man This is like the only industry that's dodge all these weird like It's not fair but it's like crazy

Yeah, Kovac was like a bright spot for so many creators and just such a sore spot for every other industry Yeah, my grandma died, but the stream num fuck Yeah, my grandma died but the stream, fuck, I was hung. Yeah, but I was in crazy shit on Warzone, bro. I think that's part of your charm. I don't know if you feel the same way, and I don't know if it's intentional, but I think your healthy fear of it all falling made you quite normal. To the point where I'd imagine most people would think you work like vaguely with computer. Yeah, I think that's fair. And not streamer. I'm not. I don't, I don't, I can't, I don't think I can LARP well enough.

I don't think I'd pass. You could sell vapes if you wanted. Maybe, but that would still like kind of an offshoot job. It's not such a normal life. It wouldn't go over well in my daughter's school. If I was a vape salesman. Did you know, so before the streaming thing, well during it, me and Nick and Ludwig lived together and he worked at a vape company as a, what was it, marketing? Yeah I was head of marketing. Head of marketing.

And they literally sold vapes that looked like iPod touches. It was fucking crazy. It was kinda sick. It was iPod waffles. They were waffles. They had the circles. So that kids could have it in school. And the suck part was on the corner. It was iPod Shuffle. They were one step away. They were one step away. They had the circles. So that kids could have it in school.

And the sock bar was on the corner. It was insane. It was the Shinee's Company that were so out of touch because it was an iPod Shuffle in 2017. Yeah, it was also weird. It was a fucking shuffle. They never had an iPhone. But they had hella colors.

But anyway, you live this very normal life and I feel like, do you think about how that helps? I think you're the stream world, the stream side of it. I think it helps to like get outside of your room and get like some lived experience. You can like farm some stories from outside and you know. Yeah. This is real though.

I think it is real. You farm the IRLXP and you bring it to your... Cause I think you, I mean, you have a limited amount of life experience. And I think standup comedians do this It's like they they tell it through stand-up and everyone's like this fucking awesome I love it, and then they get super rich and their new life fucking sucks Yeah, they're all interesting and they're all relatable

Yes, because their new life is just being this fucking rich dude, and and so where's the life experience? But like you still retain you know fucking going to Costco or even coding although ultimately you're probably not using it Not at all. Yeah might have helped like get world experience. So do you think of it as farming a little bit? Yeah Yeah, I mean I just I have to be outside of the house anyway Yeah, I got to take my daughter to stuff. But like when I'm there, I'm like kind of keeping an eye out for funny stuff It's change how Nick operates. Nick, I feel like, goes to some social gatherings, and he, so I think he has his mind on the pod.

Nick'll go around, and like, where shit might be going down, before he's like, I should get out of here. Now he's like, I'll stick around, see what happens. Sometimes he'll be like, I could really shake this waiter down. I bet you were like, a little stoked at the CBSA interview? You were like this is gonna make for a great story later. I was like, oh dude I'm dicing this guy's ankles up dude. And the Patreon money is just gonna flow.

And I'll say something crazy, uh Twisty. Yeah and I was like what is Twisty? Yeah Twisty. I actually thought of it before I talked to him. There is an element of like you don't want to like, for a podcast format specifically, I think the angle that people enjoy about us is that we're just actually friends instead of like doing it for like money or something. I mean, obviously it's sick, but yeah, I have the advantage of being insane while I'm alone. Yeah. So I just get to come to these guys and say what I did this morning when I was like taking a dump and just going,

And then I talked to Juppin's Gump! Yeah! come to these guys and say what I did this morning when I was like taking a dump and just going it's And then I talked to Jubbin's ghost Yeah I talked to Jubbin's ghost on the dump- on the dump toilet And then if anybody ever I'm not fucking making up a- I just do this And then if anybody ever comes for his neck, it's like there- no, no there's receipts It's like you can find that Slime was doing this eight years ago on the floor of a closet

And it's true Slime used to rent my closet. Yeah And we were all broke and it was us it was a coffin-sized closet in our public hallway. I loved the closet. And we were all broke. And it was a four-bedroom with six people in it. And we were like, if you're going to live here, you got to pay rent. I don't care where you sleep, where you're paying rent. And he was like, well, I want the closet.

Yeah. And the bathroom trash can was an arms race of a Cold War of not taking it out. So I think it was like eight months worth of like... Yeah, it was just slowly ants taking the garbage out. It was like, it was pressing it down and it just became this like concrete brick of like trash from the bathroom. Nutrition. And that house laid the foundation for what the yard is.

I will say, like I used the bathroom here and I was like, yeah, there's like four dudes. Just working on this thing. Yeah, I will say I use the bathroom here, and I was like yeah, there's like four dudes Okay toothpaste we're gonna put the window Do you ever stay in like a in a terrible ghoul house like around college or in? In in college the second house we lived in, we would get trashed in the basement. And then the only bathroom was on the second floor, so we'd get too lazy to go

up. We'd open the back door and pee. Again, it's going to sound from the basement. In the well? Not in the well. Sorry, go ahead. Please. After a long enough time peeing out the back door onto this concrete slab.

You start to hear the water. It's been a while since I thought about this. We noticed one day it started to leak back into the house. Oh my goodness. So there had been so much urine that it had like eroded a tunnel and then just the elevation brought it back into the house.

The slime's like automotive, floating. And it's like beer piss. So you know it's like battery acid. Yeah. I heard it's good. A little razzle little puss. Different bandages. How many guys was that?

Like six guys. Six guys in a couple years. Put it in work. Oh my god, the smell. I realized that Piss killed the plants in our house because we just didn't use the bathroom. It's funny because the way the setup was is the screen door to go out in the backyard

and then the bathroom right next to it. I'm not kidding. But we just went outside instead. It's fun. Oh, it. I'm not kidding. But we just went outside instead. That's fun. The bathroom on the- Oh, it didn't flush sometimes. The downstairs, the only problem with it was that the chain was broken on the flapper and just none of us like bothered to fix it.

Like I knew very well how it worked, but the chain was broken. You had a new chain. It wasn't just like a re-hook thing. Okay. So I was like, well, I'm not going to Home Depot. So we just never fixed it. So we just put a sign in the bathroom.

For years. For years. For multiple years. We just put a sign on the bathroom that said like do not use, toilet doesn't work. But we'd host Smash tournaments at our house all the time and people would just use it. So every once in a while people would go they'd use it and then I had to get a bucket, fill it with water from the hose. Which is so much more effort than going to home depot. Manual flush. So much more effort.

And I tricked myself into thinking I'm I feel smart for knowing how to do that. I'm like guys I can fix it. It's basic. It's so much more effort. And I tricked myself into thinking, I feel smart for knowing how to do that. I'm like, guys, I can fix it. It's pissing. It's simple. But you know what, it was right next to the toilet. The sink. And let me tell you about our friend Miles. He used the sink a lot. We were sink pissing. Australia sink.

But yeah, we peed so much in the yard that it just was like a barren wasteland. If you go to any of our bios for the yard on social media, they all say don't piss on the good grass. Because our backyard had all these brown patches just from where people would piss. OK. All the dead grass was the pissing zones. Yeah.

But if you wanted to throw oranges at the wall really hard, you would go to the good grass. We invented Fruitball. Fruitball was cute. We had a couple of orange trees in the backyard, and a couple guys would stand shirtless on the wall. And then you take fruit, and you'd throw it at them. You try to hit them with the fruit,

and the fruit would explode on the wall. So it's really a win-win. You miss, the fruit explodes. Right. You hit them, they cry out in pain. It was like the Highly episode of Gag Gas. Yeah, like a degenerate Topgolf sort of set up. Yeah, yeah, topless golf.

Yeah. But now, but you. No girls. No girls. That went without saying. No, there's definitely never any girls. No, of course not. So how long have you been like normal-pilled like a wife cell? Like, how do I put it?

Normal-pilled married cell. You put that shit behind you and you get in a relationship and you become like an adult and you have a family but it's been like what ten years or something Yeah, it was probably like 25 or 26. What was the thing you saw that you were like? I want to be an internet creator you remember. I don't know. What were you watching at the time there were like? I think like it was really like AVGN, bad game of the day, James Rolfe. Yep.

I watched a lot of him. There's an old clip of Aaron Hansen doing AVGN, he's like, this game is such a diarrhea poopy ass butt. And it's like, but he's doing it out of love. He's not roasting him. He's explaining how other games guys were doing the exact thing. And he's like, no one can do it like him. And it's just so true. We need the angry gamers back, but like mad at the games. Yeah, like, it's bad now.

Now they just want to like kill women. Cut women's heads off and then be like, also two pronouns please. Only pronouns. What was the old angry video game video- Not- not angry video game, but the- the Super Mario video where the guy hates the bloopers and he's fucking- Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's from New Jersey. And he's like the fucking-

Do some push-ups. I know that one. Yeah. What the hell was that shit called? That's a- That's an archaic angry video game video. I- that went platinum in the dorm room. Yeah, that was an unreal launch.

You were a gamer in college? Uh, a little bit, yeah. We played, it's bizarre, we played Smash 64 all the time. Ah, yeah. Skip to Melee. Would you play? Would you main? In 64, Falcon and DK. Were you like Z-canceling? Were you good? I don't know about Z-canceling, we were pretty good.

Okay. We got to the point where we started to care. You don't know if you were Z-c a Pony. We played Ultimate that one time. I think I put on a better show than you would have expected. Yes, that's true. Well, I think you're probably a better gamer now than you were then, right? No, not even close. Really?

Yeah, I mean that's all we did. We played Smash 64 and Rock Band like... You mentioned earlier... You mentioned earlier Xbox Live that you can make fun of for your accent. What were you playing on Xbox Live? Lot of Halo 2. Okay. Lot of Project Gotham Racing 2. Whoa, did you ever play Gotham City Impostors? No, I was out by that point. I was probably playing like, I think I was probably making YouTube videos.

I was just, crazy to think. I was done with gaming. I started making videos about gaming. So what game were you best at in the world multiplayer? Aliens Come Down, You Fight Them. You get to pick the game. Man, I don't know. That's tough. It's probably the binding of Isaac. It'd be like the worst movie of all time Play Isaac both like you'd have to just race them. Yeah How many hours Isaac getting you got like 4,000 And that's like solo because I mean when you play think you got? About like 4,000? God damn! And that's like solo. Because I mean when you play Smash you got people, it's company. What's crazier to me about that is that's 4,000 hours of like talking into a mic by yourself.

Yeah! I think it's done like irreparable damage. Have you noticed a change in your voice over time? Yeah, and so has my audience. Well you used to be like- So have I. Yeah, his videos sound weird earlier. What are you talking about?

If I watch too much NL I change, his videos sound weird earlier. Really? If I watch too much NL, I change how I talk for a bit. Really? And then Q- Wait, are you talking about inflection or depth, like literal? Both, yeah. Is that from talking so much or from like just- I don't know what happened, honestly.

It's gotta be the strain on your vocal cords. Yeah, I think that's part of it too. Because like my voice sounds deeper than it did when I was 18. I don't mean like strain, I mean like intonation. Well you had puberty in 2023 so we're expecting more voice changes to come. Yeah well that's when I started getting my period so I started using my diva cup. We found out that it burns a hole in the pants sometimes, it's crazy. Don't say it, don't say it.

It, I didn't know that. Also not the part that he's being wrong about. The whole part was wrong. What? They said that discolors the shirt. Yeah, and they said they were lying about the hole. Not that it burst hole, like an acid. We learned this from women. Didn't we yesterday?

No, it's... Yesterday he just got his pullback from women. We met a few women, so yes, we brought up their underwear, we asked them all sorts of questions. Why, why, uh, why Isaac? It honestly just kinda took. I mean, I think it's awesome. Yeah, like I started playing it and it got like some traction and I liked it So I was like I could do this for like forget why Isaac why this shit now I don't know if you do see the shit they post about you on X to everything app No, I got off it when he did the salute. Okay, cuz cuz other people did it. You're still on it, huh?

That's what I got off Every day Mike Cardi you got lucky this time. No, they, uh, you come up. You come up in a in a German-esque way. And I saw a post the other day it's like, I was the most nonsensical

math game. Nubby's Number Factory? No, no. Was it like Blueprints Math, like the dartboard or something it was like a quote retweet with like a Like an esoteric quote and it's like and I will say shit like this while playing this game I seem like yeah, like 20,000 likes or something. Yeah But it did I was sitting there. I was like, yeah why?

Where is this in your discord or were you stewing just the biggest dump of a game to play? Where is it coming from? I just play what looks interesting, but I think like honestly I just have like dark thoughts and that's what leads to those kind of rants I'm a twisted individual I saw your uh, I saw your um, tier list video where you ranked all the ways you can die via death penalty That was hard That was the best idea

I've seen in a while. I was so jealous. I honest I thought I would tank it so easy But after like an hour of like well Would you rather like be crushed by a big rock or like lit on fire? I was really starting to have an emotional impact on me Feeling your voice It's really thinking about it because I was trying to get an honest. People got electrocuted. A few million.

My god, we did this. Do you play anything outside of work? Are you only playing video games now when it has something to do with Twitter YouTube? Yeah. I just don't have time, honestly. So when I finish recording YouTube videos, I pick up my daughter, then it's like parenting time

Until she goes to bed. Yeah, and then I go to bed like right after that Racing an iPad kid. No, not really. She's doing any gaming. She's gaming a little bit. She's played a little Minecraft She's played a little Animal Crossing. Mm-hmm, but she mostly like in Minecraft She just hands me the controller and tells me what to do, right? But I don't know what I'm doing. So she just makes fun of me You know, the streamer don't you what I'm doing so she just makes fun of me. He knows her dad's a streamer. I would love to watch you play hardcore Minecraft. What is hardcore Minecraft?

If you die you reset. And the objects to beat it. And it's probably the most mainstream shit you'd ever play. I feel like the most mainstream shit you'd do is like Jamboree. Super Mario? Yeah. He's an A-man in Jamboree. It's SoftBand in the house.

What does that mean? Are you like the bongo game So you don't want anyone else to play as the guys? No, it's out of respect. What do you say in DK and jamboree? No, I'm already for the real Mario party In all Mario parties, right? He's it's a retired character. Yeah, we read the retiree which with the jersey up. Okay. Yeah Yeah, it's hard. It's a long story. I remember I was talking to Matt Mann who does Isaac videos every day. And I was like, he's like, yeah, I love the game and I make these videos. And he was telling me, he's like, when you left Isaac, when Northern Lion left it, it left this like vacuum

of people that still wanna watch it. Really? And it was interesting, because Matt gets like 100K views on every video and he obviously loves the game, but he's like, yeah, no one else does this, he was the guy and now everyone can be the guy because it's still generating that interest of a game which is sick. It's crazy it exists at all for that game or any game because it is like the fundamentally one of the worst

ways to make a YouTube video because it's like no it's very little editing right it's just like it's basically just a live stream uploaded But like it bangs. I feel like that's a Isaac rarity. I have a confession I'm just saying it doesn't exist for many other games. I think where you can do more of a let's play format I think Roguelikes in general you just get to play them all the time again It's a different time like in, 2011 when Isaac came out, there was just like, YouTube was different. People were like, oh holy shit, like a video on a video game.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was awesome. Nowadays, like the standards are so much different. It was kind of, it was kind of groundbreaking if the video game you were playing on YouTube just wasn't Call of Duty at that time. Cause Call of Duty YouTube was such a big part of the platform. Yeah, I didn't know it went past that. I didn't't know what passed Call of Duty. He still doesn't know.

We put some mileage on the damn tube with those cod videos. I think I, in my head, Binding of Isaac is the same as Super Meat Boy. Are they different? Like guy who made the design of it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it literally is the same guy? Yeah, same designer. Oh, okay.

It's aesthetically the same. Do you have a go-to game that's like your, you must play this game. This is my recommendation. I think my favorite game of all time is Slay the Spire. Yeah, it's so good. It's just like, I think it's a perfectly made game. And I'll like go away from it for like two years. Then I'll come back and think it's a perfectly made game. And I'll go away from it for two years, then I'll come back and play it all the way through again.

Oh my god. And be like, OK, I'm done with it for another two years. OK, can we get an NL list of recommendations then? Let's go to a game, let's go to a movie. Movie. Past few years, I think my favorite movie is probably Past Lives. OK.

I'm tearing. It's a lean song. Great movie. Really good, really good really good album Blood on the tracks Bob Dylan Taking it way back. I've been listening to you a lot of Bob Dylan this year. He can't sing Thank you for saying it yeah, I saw a complete unknown like a week ago and the joke review I wanted to make is that it's like Forrest Gump with shittier music.

5 out of 5. And then yeah, I guess one more video game. Not Slay the Spire. Because you're trying to get one? I just want to play one. My favorite game is Inscription. If Melee's not included. Have you played Blueprints yet? Everyone's recommending it to me. I've got so many DMs in the past

month, like play Blueprints. It's a little bit like Inscription for sure. It opens up. The first time I ever talked to Northern Lion was I DMed him because I got a full hard mode completion mark on Isaac, the Isaac character, which is like the easiest one many would argue, but I was like, hey check out my passport by the way, big fan

all my friends like you. And you're like, oh that's sweet, congrats on the passport. And I meant it. I think you did mean it I think you did mean it. It was sweet. It's crazy, I keep having this intrusive thought that at the end of this you guys are gonna pick me up and throw me off this one. Oh yeah, you're going off this one. Well, level 99 crime boss will come out of this one. You know that scene in Wolf of Wall Street where they hang him over the edge? Yeah, yeah. We're high up.

What's your greatest fears? Mine's heights? Really? Yours are so similar. Your chairs don't swivel, mine's heights. Really? I hate this shit. You guys are so similar. We are very similar. Your chairs don't swivel, mine swivels. I was thinking about your swiveling chair. You feel a little loose there? Oh shit. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

And then I know how they make these condos. I'm a little, ah, it's probably fine. I have a question. I have a question. Also, because you've been streaming a while, you're a parent now Yeah, if your daughter's like 16 and she's starting to make decisions about like college future. She's like dad. I Want to become a streamer? Hmm. I want to keep the family business Pop yeah What do you say to that cuz so few few streamers have kits, that so few people are at that stage.

I think that, well, I'm lucky that I don't have to think about it for a decade, at least, which is how I think about a lot of issues with parenting. Not now. Not now, honey. Daddy's gaming. I think I would be OK with it. I think that what I hope is that I think like reflexively,

you kind of, when you're a teenager, you think whatever your parents are is uncool. So I have like, I harbor this desire that she'll be very conventional and do well in school and get like a stable job with career prospects. But if she wanted to stream, I think that I would be okay with it. You'd have some pointers which is kind of sick.

Yeah, yeah. I'd be like don't tolerate any bullshit. Give a chat from day one. Honey, honey, you get to read the question they asked out loud. Yeah, read it out loud. You can't just answer it and answer it. They don't have the context. He's like, not dead, I got it. That's sweet.

Yeah, family business. I'd be against it. You think so? Yeah, I'd be like a Disney Channel dad. I'd say no, daughter! What about, what if he had a son? Would it be different? Yeah, he could do it. Family business! When did you first hear of Ludwig?

So honestly, I kind of blurs together. I think the first thing I ever saw was you setting the world record in one of the Mario Party games where you tap the Button really fast. Yeah domination. Yeah, yeah, but I didn't know who you were So I was like, I think I probably there's probably a clip of me saying did you see that guy? Record and then Then it might have been the subathon I think yeah we looked I looked at my logs recently or schooled we were on an episode of school yeah

yeah we were on an episode of school that was funny I forgot about that we're an episode of school that's a crush that and it was it was me and him huh I was on him, Destiny, and... Different times. ...Linity, and Pokemane. It was the four horsemen. Wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. And they still hang out to this day. Were you part of Penis Gang? I don't think I was there for Penis Gang.

Then I think I wasn't on yours. You weren't on that one? I was on one where we all had such a low score, we were tied. They did a tiebreaker and we did the hunger games. We're going to eat the blueberry, but the blueberry was drawing penises to get the stream band. So we just draw more and more detailed penises until EE cheated and he broke penis gang and then actually cheated.

Oh wow. In the grand finale. I didn't know there was a pre-credits. How did you let him get away with that. Uh, yeah it's been a long time. Extra Emily got, I think, a huge... That was the flame he linked for Extra Emily to, you know, fly as a phoenix. That's what he's for.

No, but we had chatted then, but I don't know. I think, um, I feel like you've been on an island. But you, who, it's okay. What is your fucking banner? Yeah, what's the branding? Well, it's Nick. The Superlion Show. Yeah, so I used to do, it was more styled as like a

like a three hour long variety show with like three segments. We would really just play three different games. Yeah. Um, so we had like different guests that would come on. And there was like regulars? Yeah, yeah. We had like regular co-hosts and then some people that would come on, you know was like regulars? Yeah, yeah, we had like regular co-hosts and then some people that would come on, you know, once a week.

And where does Northern Lion come from? So I live in Canada. Yeah. And my name rhymes with lion. That's the dance. Honestly, was my exact guess. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Beautiful. And his logo means north in Japanese kanji. He's right. Well, no. In Chinese. I'm glad you're here In Chinese In Chinese

Oh wait, it's in Chinese? It's in Chinese It's both, it's both No, well, cause the Japanese stole it Well Kha Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I wasn't going to ask you. Um, about where do you, like, so you're tapped in and that's always impressive and funny, but like, where do you, if you're not on X, which is the everything app, which is great. It's all on there.

Even though it has you, even though you're not there. Yeah, I mean, which is obviously very reasonable, but like, where do you find, because I was on Tumblr for years and then Tumblr kind of died, but Tumblr kind of like helped shape my sense of humor in my 20s in terms of online intake but where do you get now how do you how do you arrive at like things that you find and they stay in current. You're a little Discord kid are you? Not really. I feel like you're active in your own Discord aren't you? I see screenshots. I talk in the Peloton. They're all screenshots from the Peloton channel I see the screenshots, it's the Peloton chat

and he's like yeah if you don't talking about trick shot simulator one of them was like everyone's mad that he's playing it and he's like if you don't like what you see in the mirror, change what the mirror sees or something it's like is this the Peloton chat send it 511 who's taking the screenshots?

I don't know, you have them all. I got people. Yeah? They keep up, they keep up. What are you browsing? Uh, I'm on Reddit, like, when I'm in the bathroom. Okay. But I'm not logged in. Like, I'm trying to stay off the grid. Okay, okay. Like, out of the behest of the algorithm. Do you- do you

fear the algorithm? Um... I do. I think that... I don't know, I like to... Yeah, I guess I do. It's scary. I think you should fear the algorithm. How so? Well, the algorithm's curated to keep you there.

And it's gonna keep you there without purpose. But you're an agent of the algorithm. I am an agent of the algorithm. And I keep people there. How do you reconcile that? Well, that's a good question, Northern Line. That's how I felt. Anytime I'm, we were in the US like a month and a half ago.

Heard of it. Didn't stop by. Yeah, yeah. I violated the tenets of the trade war. Nor check. And I just saw, like I had almost like a breakdown watching like adults just look at their phone all day. And I heard that you did it at dinner,

so I'm not trying to call you out specifically, but like just all the spending time with their family, face in the phone, YouTube shorts, scroll, scroll, scroll. And I was like, man, I gotta stop making content. Like I'm contributing to the downfall of society. And I was like sincere about it for like half an hour. I had a really similar experience. I just told them on a couple episodes ago,

I went to a popular bagel place in LA. And they were like swamped for no reason. It was like a 50 minute wait for your bagel. And all the Uber Eats people were there waiting for their orders. And like zombies, like showing the phone to the employee walking by, like I need my order. And they're just ignoring them. And I saw that that and I was like, this is, I don't

like this system, the system of ordering food and the person goes and they don't, like there's no hello, how's your day going on? Cause now all the customers are not here to eat. They're here. And I was like, I'm deleting the app. So I deleted Uber eats and door dash and I got rid of them. Yeah. I haven't used them since. And I was, yeah. I had that same moment of like this is bad. So all this is bad. Yeah, I had a bit of it today I was on the plane and the garbage bag. Yeah, it's my garbage bag and I'm looking through it And the guy next to me is on his laptop. And he's trying to load a video, and it won't load. And he goes, can you restart the Wi-Fi?

It's too slow. I'm like, brother, you're on a plane? Yeah. That's awesome. You're on a plane. And it was the sweetest flight attendant I've ever seen. She goes, sure, I'll flick it on and off for you. She makes an announcement, and she just shuts it down it turns off people's movies

Wait she actually did it? She does it That's crazy I thought she was gonna cap that to him No she fucking she's very sweet and accommodating so she does it and then she flicks it off and on It comes back on after five minutes. She's like still won't log. I'm like brother You're on a plane Give it up here, right?

Sometimes the plane Wi-Fi just doesn't work It's okay. That's okay! It's okay for a few hours to not have the wifi! It's okay! There's like, those, uh, I think, like, Ocean's Eleven, I rewatch all the time, cause I like it. Now you're talkin'. He hands him, he hands, uh, uh, Saul the plane ticket, and he just, and he loses the dog track race, and it's like, you can just buy a plane ticket in 2001 and hand it to a man and he can go on a plane with it and I'm like that's fucking crazy it's just gonna keep getting weirder as we see things like that

you know what I mean? What are you most doomer about? Uh like anti-intellectualism and like reduced attention spans and like caused by content and like like caused by content and stuff like that or well it's tough because then I have to like demonize myself which is hard which is like a scary thought scary thought don't think about it What I do is like obviously good and helping the world the way I eat meat it's like the animal would be impressed because I'm like

honoring the animal when I eat it. Well, you had this 30 minute, you know, come to God moment. And then what happened? Well, then I just said, mine are good. I'll just keep making the shorts. Sure. Because I got to out-compete the ones that are like... You got to out-compete the rot.

How many times do you have to watch an Indian street food video where they're cooking the food in like sand or whatever? Have you seen the hot salts cooking or the Turkish coffee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the ice cream trick. Yeah. There's always a soap cutting video around the corner to enjoy. Yeah. Or a hoof shearing. Yeah, yeah, now it's going to be all AI videos.

I've been on like Taliban tourism shorts lately. Really? The last week. Yeah, talk about that. I've been watching people going to Afghanistan. Like, always men, I think, for understandable reasons. No women take longer than any. It's weird how the creators are never women there. And it's like guys who decide to like visit Afghanistan right now under like Taliban control

and just like show you what the country's like. And I've just been watching those just a bunch of shorts. Just fucking live like feeling good about it. There's a surprising amount of people that have been doing this. I mean, it's a feel good and not feel good in the sense that I think there is some there is a realistic thing to dispel about the country like stigma of like not everything here is like as awful as you think it is but also recognizing aspects of you know something like subjugation of women and like

And and seeing that in the videos as well and like recognizing that that is also very real Do you watch that and then if flick up and then it's so cutting? Yeah and seeing that in the videos as well, and recognizing that that is also very real. So you watch that and then it flick up and then it's soap cutting. No, I flick up and it's like an edited montage of Draymond Green beating somebody up. That's my algorithm right now. I'm flipping between Taliban and NBA YouTube shorts.

It does just feed, I remember we were doing this thing, this secret project with Ludwig and it's been really fun but we basically we had to watch shorts and I I Got on a fresh incognito YouTube account because I didn't want it to disrupt my algorithm It gives me bro You can search for bro and you don't need them to give you bro. Trust me, I like the old ways.

I like Googling shit and not having some wrong guy who's a robot tell me the wrong thing. It's insane. I'm 35. I very purposely, my old Call of Duty montage making YouTube account, whenever I log into it, it is only because I would like to watch a Call of Duty video because I have not ever just browsed YouTube while on it.

Do I go back and log in? It's just like old montages on my front page. It's sick, right? Yeah. It's like a time capsule. It's kind of a mausoleum of dead shit. Does this fear that you have, is it, is this something you felt for a while and is pretty broad or do you feel it's more contextualized or real through being a parent and you're like, it's specifically about my child and

what they experience? I think, I think it does, but in like the, like it's been affected by me being a dad, but actually in like the inverted way of what most people would expect. Like I'm not that concerned when I see, like, seven-year-olds watching Brain Rot, because I'm, in my head, I'm like, they're seven. But when I see, like, a 65-year-old and they're just watching, like, pure garbage, I'm like, you're supposed to be smart.

They have restraint. Yeah, like, you're supposed to have, like, the guardrails on and know, like, I shouldn't be doing it. This isn't good for me. But if a seven-year-old does it and they never stop, then it's like they're just running down that path and then it becomes a groove. Right, right.

And then that's just second nature. Well, I don't think it's good. Sorry. I'm like, a seven-year-old, I think they're more like impulse driven. Sure. It reflects badly on the parents, for sure. But when an adult, I'm like, ah, you don't have an excuse.

Yeah, this is the iPad kid. I guess if I have a fear, it's not really short attention span. It's more like People being lost for like a meaning to life Because they're not connecting the other people Yeah, more like you know just interfacing it with the world through I think that's real like people are more lonely and they spend less time with each other that's That's all right tangential fear AI related where I

I recently used it for something I rarely use it for anything and I recently used it for a project of mine And it was like a thing where I was like, oh look I was trying to learn how to code and and chat GBT is very good at it if you haven't if you didn't know that and And I found that it was a very addicting thing to tell it Hey work on this and then I would do it and then I would use thing to tell it, hey, work on this. And then it would do it. And then I would use it. And it would work or not work or whatever.

But either way, I basically learned nothing in that process. And so I'm getting all these iterations done of like, oh, I'm going to ask it to do something. And if it does it right, I'll include it. And then I'll move on to the next thing. Because it's more addicting to do that than it is to read through what it did and understand it first.

You're like guessing the math problem. And I worry about like the next generation of people who are forced to learn how to use it missing out on like the iteration loops of actually learning something by like wanting an end goal, going through what it takes to receive that end goal, and then coming out with like a new skill set. And instead, it's just like learning how to prompt. And I worry about that a lot. I think that's going gonna end up in a place where people are like in mass or on mass,

like much worse at things individually. If the internet were to shut off, we'd all not have our skill set anymore. Can I actually give you guys a specific example, something that I've been thinking about, is you know the toilet thing we were talking about earlier about how nobody wanted to- Running the train on that toilet?

Running the train on the old toilet in the old house that I actually never got to see. But the example of like needing to go to Home Depot Running the train on that toilet? Running the train on the old toilet in the old house Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That I actually never got to see But the example of like needing to go to Home Depot and get the chain to fix the problem, right? And it's something that just takes a little more time is something that isn't instantly, there's no instant satisfaction, right?

But it ultimately would save you way more time down the road. The fear I think I have is like engaging with those types of basic problems. I feel like my attention span in the periods of time where it's at its worst, like if I'm consuming YouTube shorts or TikTok or whatever all the time and I'm in a slump, it makes those problems really hard to deal with. So if I spend a decade solving basic problems with chat GBT

and not learning anything because I can instantly get the feedback I need, all of a sudden I can't engage with the basic problem of fixing my toilet. And that's my fear. You get chat GBT to get Instacart chained, and then you get a work away person taking pictures, and then you scroll more while they they do it for you, man. Like do you guys-

Hey, you guys in the future. In the future. If you're like texting like a loved one, do you do like the auto reply where it's like, you know, love you too. Oh never. Never. Okay. Never.

I'm not kidding. I will delete, when I type in OMW and it goes on my way, I will delete the auto one and sometimes retype it myself. I'm like, I don't want a capital O, you fucking weirdo. Exclamation point is filthy. What am I, a senator? Just meet her, she's my girlfriend. I add autofills to my keyboard though. I have, I added one.

He uses swipe, so he's got a fucked up brain. I have a swipe keyboard. If I type the word shrug on my phone it does the shrug my mind is a guy Yeah, and then if I do Q. It's a question mark or QQ. Sorry. Oh why I don't like hitting the fucking thing That's the cry face QQ Old school gamer tech guys. I'm too young too young like every time my mom texts me I love you the robot tries to go like, love you too. And I'm like, I'll type it. And she's like, all right, get a little too close.

She's done enough. The robots get a little comfortable. Start switching to we love you. You wake up one day, your phone, like Apple intelligence or whatever on your phone is like sending the text before you read your mom's. It's like, whoa, we already handled this for you, Ryan. More time for shorts. Yeah, I like the idea's like, whoa, we already handled this for you, Ryan. More time for shorts.

Yeah, I like the idea of, like, it's so easy, too, to look at the way we grew up and be like, oh, you just watch fucking SpongeBob or cartoons or movies or whatever, and it's like, it's the same slob thing for kids, but the fun comes from, like, yeah, I watched Blade when I was 10, and this guy also watched Blade when he was 10, or maybe he watched it when he was 20, or maybe it's a fucking six-year-old man he watched Blade, and you have that connection of, wasn't that crazy when he did that with the sword? And that's what the real element is of content, really,

is just sharing it. But when you make the slop, it's hard to say, did you see that slop earlier? It's like, I don't know, maybe, maybe it came across my algorithm. Isn't it no different than when you're watching Northern Lion and he says, did you see Faye's banks, Clay's net spend?

You keep bringing me up. I think it's different. Or chicken jockey. It's just like monoculture and like the sort of death of that and how we're handling that algorithmically, which isn't a new conversation, but it's not going away. And it's annoying, I hate it. As a 35-year-old, I'm like, ugh.

You know? Yeah. That's all. And you create the slop. No, I was a 29-year-old. And you create the slop. We create the slop. Do you ever think about the lives lost from watching your content?

I do. Yeah, yeah. I've thought about, like, if I'm gone for three minutes and there's a certain amount of viewers I've multiplied it's like how many hours just wasted no, it's true. What do you mean? What do you mean? But like if I'm like a afk or fry like Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like literal time how many people watched a chair and how many minutes and hours did that add up Yeah, you can just mold you can just figure it out

And it's and it's always it's like tens of thousands of minutes and hundreds of hours. It's like, oh, OK. Like if all these people watching me went to science class. I kind of like when the streamer gets up. Because it's deep in the tab on my second monitor anyways. And then they come back and they're like, hey. And I'm like, whoa.

I forgot you were there. I'm re-engaged. I assume get up is like they do something. I don't think they all sit there and go Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna come back soon, but I think like the streams boring. I think about it I think there's a nobility. Do you think you're the king of the second monitor? I don't think about myself like that really I kind of think of myself like I just get Like am I a second monitor guy? Yeah? Yeah, I think so do you Like or dislike or feel apathetic towards the term comfort streamer? I dislike hate it. Yeah, I hate it

You know, it's annoying. Yeah, can we let's really break it down? Please get into it when people are like, can you not be so loud sometimes? Yeah, can you like I'm trying to fall asleep Yeah, bro cyberbullying is not real close your laptop I used to be so much meaner I used to put my gain up and yell nice, and then I was like then other people be like well Yeah, no I saw that I saw that I was playing CS offline with Leslie last night and someone came in her chat and there and And there's Tina she's like my comfort streamer. I literally thought I was like man. I'd kill myself if someone came in my chat and said that Just cuz I like I it feels like Do you not feel you've captured that audience though in a way some portion of it? I like a surely

if you're a comfort streamer adjacent then you end up becoming part of that and like His comfort streamer just like that's the one I default to if they're on yeah I think it's like this person's on I open their stream I put it on while I do my daily chores, and it's in the background, and I'm vaguely listening Like asmen golds my comfort streamer yeah But there's also an energy to it like maybe I don't think Kai's and that can be a comfort streamer. Yeah. That's wild. But there's also an energy to it. Like maybe I don't think Kai Senat can be a comfort streamer. No. Because it's like very loud and activity.

There's an energy there. Yes. And so I associate comfort streamer with like. I feel like comfort and comfy streamer can be two different things. Yeah, OK. Sure, yeah. You know, my comfy streamer is someone

who's like more reserved and chill, and it's like a vibe and second monitor or whatever. Kai, you Kai you gotta watch Kai is terrible second monitor content. Yeah, yeah true horrible He's just like every once in a while screaming He screams and then you look away and you look back and there's like a horse and three guys He's thinking 1,500 gifted. Yeah. Like, OK, clear. Why did they put phantom on a horse?

Is that something that happened? They did. They put phantom on a horse. They put phantom on a horse? They done put phantom on a horse. God damn. I already taxed the hay. But I also hate when people will say, like,

don't eat into the mic. And then someone else will come in and say, well, people have got to eat. And I'm like, well, you should both shut up. Yeah. Yes, right. Dude, I think I weirdly get mad at people I'm making like crusading for me

rather than like, I can do this. Yeah. Like I can, I'll be okay. Yeah, you're the dork for defending me. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That guy kind of has a point. I am a cocksucker.

My favorite thing, right? I started uploading YouTube videos for the first time since post yard and there's been my Elden Ring playthrough and a lot of people will comment and say something like, you are so bad at this game. And I've been replying to most of them and saying, do you have any tips? Oh, I like that. And then they'll give me a tip and I say thank you awesome tip

And they switch and they immediately said they just get the attention and then over I rub my hands together Bitch loser you switched up you switched up you were addicted me when you started this interaction, but they win if you take the advice Yeah You're switched up. You were addicted to me when you started this interaction. But they wouldn't if you take the advice. Yeah. Which I won't. I'm using the four-tacha for the entire run. You're heavy-running the heavy-rolling. I asked Ludwig way back when he started and he started getting steam and I'd be like, what are you doing? These people are fucking evil to you. Like, how do you deal with that? Because it just makes me instantly mad.

Even when it was to him and I fucking hate him. And he said this thing, I don't know if you still believe it, but you're like, yeah, man, they just all wanna be my friend. And that's why they're being mean to me. I think they all want attention, maybe more than friend, but I think they all just, they all wanna be seen. Everyone wants to be heard. Which is a simple answer to a simple question.

When Ludd started popping off and we did every once in a while cameo in his streams and videos and stuff, I'll never forget a guy commented, he saw me on camera and he said, that looks like if you put Clint Stevens in a washing machine. In my head I was like, yep, here we go. Sometimes they broken clock, dude. This is my life, this is where we're gonna go now. But you don't get the right twice a day if you don't let them sing, you know?

You have to let them sing and that's what I'm learning. Yeah, yeah. And a lot of the times it sucks. Yeah, I have a chatter who is like 90% misrate But and today so the whole stream he was like Can I tell you this joke about 12 angry men that I read online and I ignored it for two and a half hours, right? Yeah, like once every like five minutes If he's that deep of a chatter he knows when I was looking at chat yeah me and Nate shots Chad that

one time and then everybody started copy-pasting my like will you click Bauer message with me did you do you have patience for that if they spam the same thing you're working together a little bit. What was the joke? So he spammed that for two and a half hours and he saw that it wasn't getting the attention and then I just out of nowhere he said, real quick before I send this dick pic, should I put it in a hot dog bun? And then I said, you know what? That's gold.

And I said, that's so good, why don't you tell your 12 angry men joke? Yeah, he got in the door. Yeah. And then he said, I heard they're making a remake of 12 Angry Men with an all-woman cast, it's called 12 Women. And I said, you know what, if you said it earlier, it wouldn't have gotten a good reaction, but now after the hot dog thing, they've climbed us. I'm imagining his dick in the hot dog bun while he says the joke now, and I'm like, that's fire.

The whole vibe I'm liking at the moment. I wanna know the guy who has the patience to spam that for two and a half hours. What's he doing? He's a hero. I mean- He's jobless. That's another way to put that. Oh man.

We are- We are at time, by the way. Oh, we're at time. We are at time. Okay. Yeah. Is this correct? Yeah, well Ryan if I can

Of the northern variety. Thank you so much. Thank you. This is really cool guys. Appreciate you coming How'd you feel? Are you ever gonna do a podcast? I don't think so I don't know what I would talk about. What do you mean you don't know what you talk about? It would just be a stream Streamers should never do podcasts. That's my hot hottest take because you're already doing it and it's more interesting. It would just be videos without slash marker in it. Yeah I think so. I also I mean like thank you for thanking me but like for context you guys all came to Vancouver to film the podcast. I just showed up basically in the city in which I already live. Which I confirmed

with him before to be your first is an honor. Yeah first pod first pod really yeah the podcast of champion. What do you do? We're his practice girl for all the other broadcasts. He does later on Rogan Mike is there anything you'd like to say anything you want to include or shout out or do No, I don't think I got the hot dog bun thing out. Yeah, yeah, that's probably it. I saw a comedy club down the street. You're not going to do a type five or anything anytime soon? No, because the thing is, as a streamer, you know the jokes are going to land.

If you've got a cold audience, you never know. It's true. You could bomb. We do have one question, Ludwig usually asks it. Oh yeah. What is it? You always ask the question that we always ask it most of the time. Okay. Yeah We asked this question every guests. We were missed if we missed. Are you cut or uncut? I'm cut. Yeah My G. Hi. Welcome to the cut side. Lots of this. I'm out of America. I'm out. See you later.

Woo! GG. GG boys.