Down Goes AIPAC? - October 21, 2026
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00:50 How do you welcome to the Young Turks? I'm Yasmin Oliya Khan. I'm your host this evening. And joining me, I have Jackson today. Jackson, how are you doing? I've been a little bit better and I've been a whole. whole lot worse. So I say things are going pretty smoothly. You know, one thing I try to do at this stage in my life is just, you know, center myself in the things that I'm grateful for. Otherwise,
01:52 you can really get off track, you know what I mean? And life's hard out here for a little bit of everybody right now. I mean, like, honestly, I think that's the best that any of us can hope to be doing. We're like two weeks away from the election, which is crazy, right? Like, that's great. Like, this is such a crazy time right now. I've been getting text messages from the other side, like political text from Republicans, they are so unhinged. I don't know how I got on this mailing list, but it is crazy. But yeah, but you know, we're doing as well as we could possibly be hoping for at this point. So that's good.
02:25 We do have a busy show today. We have a lot to talk about. There are some updates from APEC. We have some updates from Ukraine with Zelensky. Also, we have to talk about that Vivek Ramoswamy ad that he put out against his opponent. And then there might be a really crazy update later on in the show pertaining to Iran. We're keeping an eye on that to see if there's anything that needs to be reported as we're live on the show. So with that, Jackson, if you're ready, I'm going to jump right into this next
02:56 story. Let's do it. All right. So today, Jewish insiders are reporting that APEC will no longer be giving direct contributions to political candidates or endorse candidates, which sounds like like really, really big news. That is a big deal. But of course, don't be fooled. Things are not as they seem. A PAC is down, but they're not quite out. Okay, so here is what you need to know about all of that. Today, A PAC sent a letter to its members that read in part to win the fight for the future of the country and the U.S. Israel Alliance, we must build a more strategic, consequential, and nimble political operation. Endorsements, direct PAC contributions, and earmarking will no longer be part of our approach. So we can expand individual giving and utilize new tools
03:45 to help our friends win. So they're still doing all of their APEC stuff, but they just, you know, they're gonna be a little bit more down low about it, a little bit more low key. So what APEC is basically admitting now is that they understand that their brand is a liability for candidates. They know that they're not very popular. They know that certain candidates won't win if it's known that these candidates are taking money from APEC. So the huge catch in all of this is that they do still plan to play a role in our elections. They're still, they're not backing down from that. They're not just going to give up their entire mission. They just want to do a better job of hiding what it is that they're up to. So it's going to be on the voters to be even
04:27 more proactive than we already have to be. It's very exhausting, but that's what they're doing. So previously earmarked donations made to candidates through Apex portal would show up, on candidates fundraising reports as donated by the individual through APAC. The new APAC strategy will allow its supporters to continue contributing to candidates who have said publicly that they will reject contributions from APAC or from PACs in general. So it's making it easier for these candidates to lie to us. If they say we don't accept APAC contributions, technically they can say that's true. Like we can't call them liars for it anymore, even though that is exactly where the money is coming from.
05:06 So APAC spokesperson Darren Sousa said that APAC members contributed over $90 million to candidates this cycle, including earmarked donations through the APAC portal compared to over $3 million in direct donations from the PAC itself. So additionally, APAC stated that it will continue to operate its affiliate super PAC, which is the United Democracy Project. Okay, so the United Democracy Project has reported more than $53 million in spending, this election cycle with its largest effort targeting Michigan Democratic Senate nominee Abdul al-Said. APAC is listed as United Democracy Project's largest contributor with $30 million in reported contributions. So Jackson, I want to get your thoughts on this here. It's all very sneaky, but I think it is worth noting that APAC is acknowledging that they're very unpopular right now.
06:01 And by aligning themselves with the candidates that they want to win, those candidates might not win. Yeah, I mean, you know, APEC's primary function is to fund campaigns and to spend a narrative on what the Israeli government is all about. And really up until relatively recently, the realities of Israel and Palestine and the conflict between the two nations was a thing. You know, people didn't really know how much money the United States gives to Israel and how the Israeli nation has things like universal healthcare and things, a lot of that off the dime of the U.S. taxpayer. And then, now we're in this situation with Iran, largely headed by Netanyahu's influence on Donald Trump. And I don't think that they're going to be able to reverse course in terms of
06:59 rebranding themselves as some type of positive entity that the American people want to be supporting. But I think it's going to be really challenging going forward for the Democratic Party in particular. Republicans will continue to take money from, you know, whether it's APEC or any other organization related to that. But more and more, the Democratic voting base is not accepting this. However, a lot of Democrats in Congress in the Senate have taken millions of dollars from APEC. And so that's a lot of how their careers obviously are funded. So, you know, if someone, you know, like Kamala Harris, if she runs for president again, pretty much anybody who runs for president, they're going to have to figure out a way to divest and change course on the strategy for dealing with Israel.
07:49 because the Democratic base is seems to be at least very adamant on doing something new in regards to how we deal with that. Yeah, which is crazy because what they could do. And I always think about this when it comes to politics. Politicians will do all that they can. They will go all out of their way. They will do all kinds of illegal things just to avoid just like doing the right thing. Right. The right thing in this case would be, look, the people do not support Israel.
08:18 We don't want to continue giving our money to Israel. We don't want to continue killing these children. So just like don't do it, right? As our representative, don't do any of that on our behalf. But instead they're like, we're going to do all this other stuff over here so we can pretend like we're not doing it even though we're really doing it still. So look, they want the money. They want the money from APEC.
08:38 They want the money from Israel. They're willing to kill children to get that money, apparently. And they're going to do everything they can to continue to deceive the American voters into supporting them, even though they know that the American people do not support the very thing that they are trying to hide from us. So, you know, I think at this point, American voters are so used to like being, having to be on top of things, especially Democratic voters. I don't really know what goes on on the other side. But, you know, you always have to be on top of things, making sure you understand the issues, making sure that you're not getting duped by these politicians
09:13 because it is in their best interest to lie to us and to mislead us. And so we're always doing all this work, trying to just like not get got. And that job just continues to get harder and harder. And we just have to get better and better at doing it, unfortunately. So anyway, we're going to move on. We have some more news for you. We're going to talk about Vivek. Don't vote for people who lie.
09:39 Don't let her become your governor. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself. It will only get worse. Oh my goodness. My skin is crawling as I watch the video. It's so, so brutal. This is a brilliant, brilliant political ad. I guess that's one word for it.
10:06 It's no surprise, though, that right-wing media pundits like Michael Knowles are going to defend such a disgusting attack ad that was, put out by the Ohio gubernatorial candidate Amy Acton's estranged mother and her opponent Vivek Ramoswamy. And there is plenty of reason as to why her mother and her are estranged. And we will get into that. But for this story, I just want to say that viewer discretion is advised. We are going to discuss sexual abuse in this segment. So currently in Ohio's gubernatorial race, the two candidates, there's the Democratic candidate Amy Acton and Republican Vivek Ramoswami. They are very, very close in the polls and you can see it right here.
10:44 They're almost neck and neck in most of these poles. Acton is ahead, but just slightly and just like overall by about three points. But Ramoswami is ahead in a few of those there, as you can see. Again, not by much, but I really feel like some of these races should not be as close as they are. But apparently Vivek Ramoswami's team wanted to do something explosive right in October, right? his own version of the October surprise for the people of Ohio. And they decided that their best course of action right now, two weeks before the election, was to play a little dirty, you know, take a big risk.
11:20 And this is the ad that they release, and we'll show it here. I'm a daughter. And I'm Amy Acton's mother. I worked at Children and Family Service Association, building one of the first two sexual abuse programs in America. I love my daughter. But when I saw her lying about her opponent, and it's not easy for a mother to say this,
11:44 but Amy has a serious problem. She is a liar. She lies about her past. She says she grew up living in a tent. None of that is true. She's lied her entire life. My daughter needs help, and she can't help you if she needs help herself.
12:05 People can change. But first they have to tell the truth. And my daughter still isn't doing that. Don't vote for people who lie. Don't let her become your governor. If you think she'll make your life better, you're fooling yourself. It will only get worse. Look, I work out.
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13:51 who financed or produced the ad, which by the way is what is legally required. So at first, a lot of people, including Michael Knowles, didn't actually believe that Ramoswami was responsible for this add. However, thanks, I don't know who told, like this is all just so badly done, but their campaign confirmed late Tuesday that they did produce it and that they were spending four million dollars to air it according to the Washington Post. Okay, so what they said was this is a spokesperson for Ramoswami's campaign says, we don't know what happened between Amy and her mother, who spoke first about Amy in 2020, who spoke first about Amy in 2020. But we know that Amy Acton is a serial fabulous who has some serious problems with the truth that the public needs to be aware of before
14:35 deciding who to entrust as governor. But Amy Acton is not lying. Of course she's not. In fact, there is a reason why the ad failed to mention that Arthur lost custody of Acton and her brother, and that her second husband raped Acton when she was just a child. Okay, so that is why the mother is calling her a liar because the mom chose to stay with that husband even after her kids were taken from her. So in a statement, Dr. Amy Acton wrote this. She said, growing up in Youngstown, my brother Phil and I endured abuse, hunger, and neglect, even spending one winter homeless living in a tent. We were often kept in a dark basement where were frequent fires with child protective services and lived in fear of our birth mother's violent and erratic temper. Between the ages of 10 and 12,
15:25 I was sexually abused by her husband, while my birth mother did nothing to protect me. Eventually, I confided in my father and stepmother, and we were removed from that situation. My birth mother's husband was arrested, charged with rape, and indicted by a grand jury. At 12 years old, I testified in court. I haven't seen my birth mother since that day in 1978. She and her husband fled the state, and he was declared a fugitive. So I mean, there was a lot there, right? So the mother did nothing to protect her. And the spokesperson for Ramoswami's campaign said, you know, we don't know the nature of their relationship.
16:06 We don't know what happened there. It seems like there is a lot of information that is now available and has been available since at the time, presumably that they were putting together this ad. So when asked for corroboration of this report, police and court officials in the Youngstown area could not immediately produce. records from the 1970s, but the Acton campaign produced documents showing that Dr. Acton's stepfather pleaded not guilty, was indicted by a grand jury, and fled the state before trial. Though another warrant was issued for his arrest, he never appeared before a judge, and then he died in Pennsylvania in 2004. Meanwhile, Acton's brother, Philip Stearns, also stood by his sister
16:48 after the Ramoswamy ad was released. And he also participated in a response ad recounting the abuse, which he shouldn't have ever had to do in the first place. But here it is. I received a lot of abuse, but Amy always got the worst of it. She continued to receive that abuse because she knew she had to protect me from that. And then that if she hadn't done that, who knows where I would have ended up. And she's 11 and 12 years old.
17:19 And to think that that's somehow a talking point, Shaman Vivek, it's the contempt he has for Amy as the contempt he has for Ohio. He's not fit to lead. So he also said in a statement, our birth mother stayed married to Amy's rapist until he died. This desperate, disgusting attack reveals exactly who Vivek Ramoswamy is at his core, a pathetic excuse for a man who is willing to hurt anyone as long as it gets him what he wants. And of course, the ad has generated a significant amount of backlash from both the left and the right. However, you know who doesn't actually care about any of this?
17:55 It's our vice president who happens to be from Ohio. So let's see what he has to say. And the whole time Vivek has stood tall and he has talked about what he wants to accomplish for the people of Ohio. And now the media and the Democrats in the state of Ohio are obsessed because guess what? Vivek Ramoswamy had the audacity to run. a TV commercial which calls it out like it is and calls Amy Acton a liar. And my message, ladies and gentlemen, is very simple. Whatever you think about any of the TV advertisements, focus on the substance and focus
18:40 on the facts. Yeah, that's what we're trying to do, J.D. Like, these people are so disgusting. The fact that they would stoop this low is impressive even for them. I know it's October. I know that we're supposed to expect all kinds of nonsense in the month of October leading up to an election. But this is really, really, really low. The fact that the brother had to come out and say anything is, yeah, it just never should have happened.
19:06 Jackson, what do you think about this? Well, I mean, let's say that you didn't know anything about Amy or her past. And you just saw this ad. There's really not much substance to it. You know, all she said was she grew up in a tent, but that didn't happen. But there was nothing else there. She didn't say like, oh, Amy has a criminal pass. She used to get in a lot of trouble.
19:30 She used to do these types of abusive things. It was basically just personal grievances. Like, my daughter doesn't want to talk to me anymore, so you shouldn't vote for her. You know what I mean? Like, that's essentially what the commercial was. And then very quickly, we can corroborate what she said about. her upbringing and the types of things that she went through. And estranged parents, estranged family members, it's a common thing.
19:58 You know, people grow up and they choose to go no contact with their parents or their caretakers for all sorts of different reasons. And at the end of the day, this is politics, you know, like it is a nasty industry. Things like this do happen. But it doesn't really show confidence. It doesn't really show strength. Again, because there really was no substance there. It was just kind of crossing boundaries, crossing a lot of lines that didn't really need to be crossed, offer it just to backfire. And then
20:30 Vivek, I mean, like, this is a guy who got wealthy by pumping a stock for a medication. What was like an Alzheimer's medication, I'm pretty sure, that didn't work. And then he did a rug pull and kept all the money. So, you know, like, that's about as dishonest as it gets. You ripped a bunch of people off and now you're going around stumping for Republicans. And maybe he'll become governor, maybe he won't. We'll find out very soon. But, you know, when I first saw this commercial, I was like, she didn't really even say anything.
21:02 It was just like personal petty drama. Yeah. And you brought up a good point about estranged parents and how a lot of young people are now going no contact with their parents. And I imagine that among the MAGA voters, that is probably a common thing. You know, all these kids are like, oh, my kids don't talk to me anymore because they got corrupt by the woke media or whatever. You know, like, so maybe that is like a relatable thing for them where their kids don't want to talk to them because they don't like them anymore. You know, I know a lot of people who no longer talk to their MAGA Republican parents.
21:34 Real quick, wasn't there like some, I didn't really look into it, but I saw a story like earlier this week or last week about like people trying. trying to make a law that your kids have to talk to you. You've been a strange or something like that. Just to say yes, a lot of MAGA parents definitely had become a strange. I mean, like, I haven't seen that, but that would be really funny if that was a real thing. Like- Something like that. Are you gonna police that?
22:01 I don't know. But yeah, it's really, this whole thing is really shocking. Apparently the mother also has her own, you know, kind of mental health issues that she's struggling with. She didn't look great in that video. But also, yeah, like the big thing there is that her husband is the one who was convicted, you know, by grand jury of what he did to her children. And she sided with the husband and then they fled the state. Like it's just, it's all so obvious what was going on there.
22:32 It's very sad what was going on. And it makes sense why Acton no longer speaks to her mom. But the fact that this level of personal trauma and family drama would be dug up in October, two weeks before an election, is low even for the Republicans, you know? And then for J.D. Vance of all people, I mean, I guess he has a history of just like not releasing the Epstein files, et cetera, et cetera, for going back on all of his moral stances. He went from a never-Trumper to being Trump's vice president and to, you know, promoting all these horrific ideas. It's not really surprising that that is the take that J.D. Vance
23:11 took there. But even Vivek Ramoswamy, like, hopefully this reflects very poorly on him in the election. Already, he's getting a lot of flack for it from Republicans and Democrats alike, including people like Scott Jennings, who, you know, he was more focused on the strategy and like, oh, why would he do this? This was a bad idea for the campaign than the actual. I mean, but he did give some credit as far as, you know, from what we know, he did acknowledge that, you know, this guy was convicted and he fled. at the state, you know, it doesn't look good. So it's hard to, it's hard to argue with it. But hopefully the voters, I mean, like I said, like that that race is so incredibly close and
23:51 I don't understand why. I never will understand why things like this are as close as they are. But hopefully it, it sways things a little bit going into November. So we're going to take our first break. We'll be right back with more. Let's check out some comments. How much time do I have? Okay, let's see. Okay, gifted memberships. Okay. So this is, is from Xenegryph 7169 says my voting place was moved from last year's place from a half mile away to within walking distance here in Michigan voting Abdul. Wait, so yours, your voting location got closer to you, not further away. That is, that's impressive, unless I read that wrong. Here in Texas, what I've noticed is there are fewer voting places than there were in
25:13 previous years. And also, the voting times are very limited. They're from eight to five, which working banking hours. So it's like as soon as he get off work, you can't vote. DJ Payne, one, two, three, six says, it's crazy how these magas clap for this craziness. It is always very jarring when they say crazy things. And there's a stadium full of people who are clapping for it. Like when Trump said that he was going to bomb or like maybe Iran is going to bomb San Diego and L.A. And people are like, yeah, let's do that. It was weird. It was weird. Dean Williams S. 73 says, Vivek found the bottom of the barrel. just kept on digging. He really did. Like, like to go that deep and that low is impressive and
25:57 weird. Like, like, how did you even do that? Okay. RSDJ.1 says, of course, J.D.E. protects the petos. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what I was alluding to. Thank you. Welcome back to the show. You have Yasmin and Jackson with you. And before we move on, we have a lot more stories to get to you. But before we do, I want to tell you about our sponsor. Noble Mobile. So if you've been watching this show, you've heard about our sponsor. It's Noble Mobile.
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27:47 accept where it is right now? Yes. Right now we have to freeze. And I think this is a real way to end this war. We call it ceasefire or stop killing, like President Trump called it, freeze and stop. And of course, this is minimum what we need from Russia today. Then, of course, we will go to president and to Europeans and we'll ask security guarantees. The most important is peace and also security peace.
28:19 So today, Ukrainian President Volodomar Zelensky stated that he would concede land to Russia in exchange for peace. But here is the big question. Is there finally any hope that this is actually going to end the war? Or is this conflict just doomed to continue? Will he make this concession? And then Russia will require more concessions from that point. So here's what we know. Just before making that statement to Fox News, Zelensky admitted that Ukraine is facing a dire
28:51 situation. And that situation has gotten significantly worse over the past month or so. So of course, we're not losing this war. But we are losing people, he said. Because of the Russian attacks, we're losing people in time. It's such a pity because our children don't have a real life and childhood. Not only children, but all people. That's why we need to end this war as quickly as possible.
29:13 However, Zelensky stated that he's not interested in surrendering any land that the Russians have not already captured. So if they haven't already done it, then you're not getting anymore. And as for the Russian side, this morning Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed to peace talks with the US and Ukraine. And as a token of goodwill, Russia released an American teacher. They had imprisoned for over four years. That is crazy.
29:41 The teacher was accused of serving as a murder. for Ukraine and you know, we hope and we pray for peace there, you know, but you might be wondering, does Ukraine have to surrender any land to Russia? Is that a necessary point of all of this? It's, it really depends on who you ask the answer to that question. So according to Max Blumenthal of the gray zone, the Ukrainian people would make that tradeoff. So a new poll on Ukrainian attitudes on the war finds a strong majority, 57% support in immediate. negotiated peace with Russia and territorial concessions. It follows a Gallup poll this June showing 66% of Ukrainians favoring an immediate negotiated cessation of hostilities. And Professor John Meersheimer
30:29 has argued that even if Ukraine were to keep fighting, it still doesn't really have much of a path to victory. And here is why. There are just countless reports that say, and these are reports to come from the Ukrainian side more so than from the Russian side, that Ukraine does not have the manpower to thickly populate the forward edge of the battle area. So that there are big holes or gaps in the front lines that the Russians are taking advantage of. And given the draft dodging problem that the Ukrainians have and the AWOL problem that the Ukrainians have, there's no way they're going to find the manpower to fill up the ranks on the front lines and thickly populate the forward edge of the battle area.
31:21 It's not going to happen. And then you marry that to the fact is you said that when you look at the balance of artillery, you look at who has glide bombs and who doesn't have glide bombs and so forth and so on. It's just hard to imagine that the Ukrainians can win this war upon the battlefield, The size of the Ukrainian population today is half of what it was when Ukraine got its independence in 1991. Half of the existing population, the 20 to 25 million people that still exist in Ukraine, half of those people are of retirement age. It's October, which means election seasons right around the corner.
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33:49 but are happy to sacrifice the nation and the people of Ukraine if it means making life difficult for Russia. But others state that Ukraine could still win the war. So in fact, the issue seems like the only thing that congressional Republicans and Democrats can actually agree on here, is Republican Representative Brian Fitzpatrick insisting that the fighting continue with American
34:12 taxpayers footing the bill. He said the United States must provide any and all defensive equipment that Ukraine needs to defend itself. The United States must not import a single drop of Russian oil. Sanctions against the Russian regime must be harsher and stronger than they have ever been before. Ukraine can and will defeat Russia. And again, that was from a Republican representative, Brian Fitzpatrick.
34:36 And then on the other side, here is Democratic Senator Chris Murphy. I think you have to see all of this as part of a pattern. Zelensky has said this out loud, but it seems pretty obvious that Trump has decided he's going to put Ukraine in a position where they may be pressured to capitulate. You've got the decision on diesel sanctions that he's going to allow Russia to sell diesel on the world market, which helps them fund the war. He just announced he's not going to implement any of the congressional sanctions that were authorized just a week ago. The new news tonight that he is slow walking or not selling any additional interceptors to Ukraine and Star Shield being down. This is a pattern of behavior over the course of about a week that looks to be a strategy, a strategy to put Russia in the most powerful position possible in order to gain a settlement.
35:34 a ceasefire that is on Russia's terms. It's just absolutely devastating. There's no reason for it. Frankly, Ukraine was making really important gains on the battlefield over the course of the last year, notwithstanding Trump's refusal to help. And I guess Putin is called in a favor using whatever leverage he has over the president. And you're seeing the results of that in this series of decisions. Meanwhile, you know, this is still a war and the death toll keeps climbing, which is a problem. So Russia's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine has now cost the country some 450,000 lives according to a July 2026 study that estimates that the war's total casualty numbers to have surpassed 2 million. The research by the Center
36:23 for Strategic and International Studies estimates Russia has suffered 1.4 million casualties, including killed, wounded and missing soldiers, a stunning number that amounts to roughly 1% of the country's population. Meanwhile, Ukraine, I'm sorry, is estimated to have endured between 525,000 and 625,000 casualties, including 125,000 and 150,000 fatalities. And this isn't entirely relevant to this story, but I feel like it's relevant to the audience. Maybe this is interesting and put some things into context for you. But here is Stephen Whitkoff, where he's calling Vladimir Putin a humanitarian. Let's see that.
37:07 He's a 75-year-old man, and you talk so much about my president, President Trump, being a humanitarian. You are humanitarian also, sir. And I salute that, I commend you, and I thank you again. Why are we doing any of that? I don't know. So things have been getting worse for the Ukrainians, especially lately, as we've kind of been seeing as, you know, we kind of have been keeping an eye on this situation for the last four years. This has been going on for over four years now. And I guess in the winter, it'll be about five years since the invasion happened. And this was always tricky because this wasn't like a war that was happening. This was just Russia invading another country. And there was all this talk to get Ukraine into NATO and, you know, to get some allies shipped there, but the United States has been largely funding the Ukrainian defense and giving them weaponry, but also giving them intel and also providing internet to them
38:07 through Elon Musk Starlink. And Elon Musk is very mercurial. So, you know, that internet access has come and gone. And lately it is more gone. Also, our intel has stopped. It has resumed, but, you know, it's just unreliable. We're an unreliable ally for the Ukrainians right now. And And this kind of was a hard line for Zelensky up until now that he was not willing to seed any land from Ukraine to Russia. But it seems now he's like, look, we are tired. It's been for almost five years of this. And he's right. This is an entire childhood that has been taken up.
38:43 This is someone's entire time when they would have been in high school. This is a significant chunk of people's lives when their lives are being disrupted. And over here, you know, we're used to hearing the story in the background. But it is very like I imagine because thankfully I've never been in that position, but it can be very disruptive to people's lives. Jackson, I've said a lot. What are your thoughts here? Well, you know, I'm certainly in no position to declare what Ukraine should and shouldn't do in this situation. But it is true that this war has been dragging on for quite some time. And at the end of the day, as you pointed out, Ukraine was invaded.
39:19 And what they're doing is defending their sovereignty because Putin has stated that, you know, just the rationale that Ukraine used to be a part of Russia. And so it's reasonable to say that Putin is trying to recreate the Soviet Union in terms of what the territory was. So if Ukraine does accept a ceasefire where they have to give up a portion of their land, who's to say that Putin's just going to respect that? and honor that and stop there. And it's also, you know, just good to consider what Russia will look like when Putin's gone, because he's been the leader for decades now. And when he's no longer in the picture, is Russia still going to be trying to reclaim parts of their old territory? Are they going to back off? But this is just a situation where, you know, people are getting I'm tired of being involved with it.
40:17 The American people in the situation that we have with our support for Ukraine and people's sentiments on funding foreign wars or being involved in foreign conflicts. And then also it caused a situation where gas prices rose up during Biden's term. That also had something to do with COVID. But these are having impacts on different sectors of the economy, as well as clearly million of people, as you pointed out, have died from this. But the biggest question is, if you do capitulate, if you do surrender, are they going to stop there? And history shows not necessarily. Yeah, because we all know that Putin has very imperialistic ambitions when it comes to just
41:05 like, he's trying to be a czar. He's trying to be a Russian czar. He's trying to go back to Imperial Russia. He said as much. He thinks it's his job to do all of this. So what we're seeing is he's just He wants to expand. That's why he did all of this. That's why he spent four years doing all of this, all of his money. He's just throwing all of his youth at this war into this meat grinder over there in Ukraine. And maybe he'll be satisfied with like a little bit of Ukraine, but that was never what he wanted in the first place. He always wanted more than that. And there was never anyone who actually really, really stopped him from doing that in the first place. So that's kind of what we're looking at. It's a really. sad state of affairs. It was always a sad state of affairs, but I think we always had hope that the Ukrainians would pull through in the end. And a lot of the American people really supported what was going on in Ukraine as far as American support. But after a while, it's like, what are we doing? You know, it's hard, especially on the right to convince people to continue throwing money into this, you know, the America first people. I believe in America first to an extent,
42:11 But I also think we should help our allies and we should also help people who have been invaded by Russia. I think that, you know, but at the same time, these things are expensive and that we can't not, we can't pretend that that's not a factor. You know, unfortunately, we love to just focus only on the humanitarian aspects of things. But, you know, the world is run by money. So, Alyssa, should we break or do you see? Yeah, we're going to take a break. All right.
42:38 We'll be right back. All right, let's see what you guys are saying. sexy speed racer, ooh, says, but you can't trust Putin to keep his word anymore than you can trust Netanyahu to keep his. Yeah, like, you know, like, what are we doing? Why are we pretending that these are normal, trustworthy people? I don't know. Angry Citizen, oh, oh, this is about Amy Acton, says, SA is bad enough, especially as a child, but to use that trauma as a weapon on the world effing stage is deplorable at best. Yeah, it's, it's next, it's unbelievable is what it is.
43:49 Nerd Ferguson says, so A-PAC is doing the exact same awful stuff they've always done, except now they're doing it while wearing groucho-marked glasses. Like, yeah, like, we can't, you can't see what we're doing. It's a secret. Nobody knows what's going on. Wedd says, dynamic duo. Yas and Jackson, that is fun. And Ben Jamin says, overwhelming amounts of coolness hosting today.
44:13 I guess. I think Jackson is way cooler than I am. So I think he's always. Yeah, I do. I think like objectively. So I think he's pulling a lot of that weight there. I'm not even being self-deprecating. I'm just saying objectively. Like, that is what it is. Okay. Well, I appreciate it. I don't think of that cool. I do my best. Thank you. I appreciate it because I'm cool by association now. Oh yeah. And then broken wing dragon says parents are out of town. Time for a house party with the kids.
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45:51 or AG1 Pro. That's drinkag1.com slash TYT. Welcome back. We have Jackson with us for the first hour. We have one or two more stories. We'll see how many we get to in this first hour. And then in the second hour, it's me again, this time with Waz. So that'll be fun for everybody.
46:23 All right. So let's get into this next story. The only people that should be losing sleep right now are the Democrat Party. It's the Nancy Pelosi's who we're looking at. It's the Liz Cheney's, you know, Pokemon. we're looking at all that stuff and we're going to find out why you're so rich on government money. There's just so much to go into I can't even I don't even know where to start but who would you want running your country, Jesse? You want to get advice from Stacey Abrams and Joe Biden, who evidently
46:49 signed everything with an auto signature, didn't even know what he was signing or do you want Elon Musk to help the commander in chief and there's only one president Donald Trump cut waste and make us money. The man is a self-made billionaire. He ran in a He will run this country that way. So I mean, look, the proof is in the pudding right there. So that's an older clip, but that was Alina Haba there. She was one of the lawyers for Donald Trump. And she does not like corruption as he saw there.
47:18 But it seems like she only doesn't like it when the Democrats are doing it or when she suspects that the Democrats are doing it. Now she is making her own headlines with her seemingly corrupt Venezuelan ties. It might all have something to do also with her new 29 year old billionaire husband, husband, but we'll see about that. So to be fair, I don't know many Democrats who are totally fine with whatever Nancy Pelosi was getting up to while she was in office. I mean, I know she's still there, but still. But corruption is on the ballot next month in a really big way, in a way that I kind of I think has crept up on the American people, that suddenly they really do care
47:54 about corruption and government. And people, as are looking into that a little bit more, they're looking directly into the Trump administration. So in the most recent ballot, of corruption. Here's this headline from the New York Times. It says a billionaire wanted a Trump pardon. His family gave Alina Haba a $50 million deal. So this is Julio Herrera Volutini, a prominent Venezuelan, and he was seeking clemency. He got it not long after his daughter gave Ms. Haba, a lawyer close to President Trump, an extraordinarily lucrative job. And you know what, that might be putting it mildly. Right. So Mr. Herrera, he's a billionaire, banker from Venezuela, but he was facing felony bribery charges here in the United States.
48:39 So he was able to get a plea deal for a misdemeanor campaign finance violation, but that wasn't quite good enough for him. He wanted just he wanted everything just off his record completely. So he made a plea for clemency. So for good measure, his daughter isabella Herrera, who by the way is an American citizen. She donated $3.5 million to a Trump super PAC, but it still wasn't enough to get the pardon that he was actually seeking for her father. So then the Herrera family hired Alina Haba, who had been one of Trump's personal lawyers, and at the time was an advisor at the Justice Department. They offered her $10 million a year for four years, along with a range of bonuses.
49:23 In total, including bonuses, she was guaranteed more than $50 million over four years, according to interviews and documents obtained by the New York Times. So what was the job that she was hired to do for $50 million over four years? It is unclear what the job actually was. She served as General Counsel at Concord Partners, which was a company that Ms. Herrera, Isabella Herrera, the daughter, set up just about a year ago. I think it was, yeah, about a year ago.
49:52 Habo was hired just days after the company was registered in Florida while she was still serving as a U.S. attorney in New Jersey. And just weeks after Haba started that job at Concord, whatever the job even was for whatever this company even did, then her father, Mr. Herrera, he got the pardon that he was after. So Jackson, I want to get your thoughts on this. There's a little bit more to this story. But before we move on, you know,
50:18 this has kind of been like a cottage industry of pardons, right? This administration has really found a way to monetize those presidential pardons. He's basically selling them off. And it's creating this atmosphere of political corruption where you can just kind of like buy a pardon from the president because this president can be bought. Yeah, I mean, just the difference in how much more brazenly corrupt Trump's second term is than his first goes to show the difference between who he has around him among other things,
50:51 because Trump hasn't changed. You know, for example, in his first term, he made 50 stock trades. And so far in this one, I've lost count. It's in the thousands. I don't know where it is. I don't know. And then every other president is zero, zero, zero, zero stock trades. You know, there's all this talk about the stock trading ban in Congress, which most people
51:14 are on board with. However, that bill bans everyone in government from trading stocks except the president. Well, you know, how big of a coincidence is that? And this also is just silly because Trump just unleashed some type of program where there's like $25 million fund so people can win money for reporting fraud in the federal government, which, you know, which is hilarious because Donald Trump has made billions of dollars. He's gotten all these bribes and all these gifts from foreign nations. And as you pointed out, all the pardons that he's gotten just because people have given him money. You know, they'll go to like a million dollar a plate dinner. And then lo and behold, somebody who embezzled hundreds of billions of dollars gets led out of prison.
52:03 Steve Womack's son was doing a 10-year sentence for selling methamphetamine. He got him up out of there. Juan Hernandez, the Central American president, who got found guilty for trafficking billion. of dollars worth of cocaine into the United States. He got pardoned. So it's just, I don't think America will ever have such a corrupt administration again. And it's not because there aren't corrupt elements. It's, it's because Donald Trump is a cartoon character. He's literally straight out of a comic book. And most people wouldn't be so out in the open with this type of stuff. But $50 million, not surprising when the Pentagon has failed six audits, because these people,
52:49 just take money. That's what they do. They just take what they want. And so here we are. But that's a very lucrative deal. I definitely getting paid $10 million a year to do nothing. Sounds kind of sweet. I can't even lie. Yeah. And she didn't go any further into like the details of her work at Concord. If you look up Concord, there's not really anything about the company. Like nobody knows what it's for. You know, like it's obviously like they're just paying her for this for for proximity to Donald Trump. And on that note, I did mention that Alina Haba has a new husband. So this guy is such a character.
53:27 I just want to tell everybody about him a little bit because it also plays into this idea that you can pay money and then just get proximity to power. You can gain access to the Trump administration. So this guy, he also has strong Venezuelan ties. So the short version of this story is that Terran Milden had business ties and Venezuela and he was close to Nicholas Maduro and his government. So when Maduro was overthrown and he was kidnapped by the U.S. government, Milden was worried that he was going to lose his government contracts that he had in Venezuela. So the United States, by the way, was also considering
54:04 putting sanctions on Mildon. So he was like, oh, I got to do something. So he started looking to the United States. So through a connection with Rick Rinell, who was running Trump's Kennedy Center at the time, Milden donated seven. $17.6 million to the Kennedy Center and also to a deal between the Democratic Republic of Congo and a Texas-based tech firm. So $17.6 million, six of that was supposed to go to the Kennedy Center through Grinnell. So through that donation, Milden was promised access to the highest echelons of Trump society all the way up to POTUS himself. And that apparently came directly from Grinnell, that promise of access. So he met
54:48 Milden met Alina Haba late last year at an event at the Kennedy Center. And last September, they were married. So they met last year, late last year. They probably started dating around January or so, which by the way was when Maduro was kidnapped by the U.S. government. And they just got married in September at the Waldorf Astoria. So by the way, through doing all this, through marrying Haba and all that, He is no longer worried about his contracts.
55:18 All of his contracts have been reinstated in Venezuela and he doesn't have any sanctions on him. So like that is just an interesting, that's an interesting way to go about it, I guess. Just marry Alina Haba. This, by the way, is her third marriage. It's his second marriage. He also had an engagement. He got married to a rich girl in Turkey who her family was very connected. And then he moved to Venezuela and he ditched his Turkish wife and he got.
55:45 another well-connected fiance in Venezuela. And before he could marry her, he hooks up with Alina Hava here, who was very connected to the Trump administration. It's just crazy. And this guy's 29 years old, by the way. I don't know, like, who has the time? She's 42. She just looked it up because you said she'd been married three times.
56:03 Yeah, there's a 13-year age gap. Yeah. And man, some people out here, they never give up. You know what I'm saying? If a third time's a charm, perhaps. Yeah, I mean, I guess so. You know, I mean, it seems very quick to get into a marriage, but I also, you know, dated my husband for like five years. Well, you know what it was about. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't about love and companionship. It was about the bottom line.
56:27 It is. It's like a like one of those royal weddings, you know. It's about the connection. So anyway, I think I'm going to try and squeeze in one more story before I let you go, Jackson. All right. All right. So last month, ProPublica released a shocking report detailing blatant pay for play dealings between Senator. Susan Collins and Naval Defense contractor Navitech. So yesterday, ProPublica released a follow-up report showing that both the late Senator Lindsey Graham and Representative James Clyburn were also subjects of an FBI bribery investigation following, I'm sorry, involving Navitech dating back to 2019. So here's a little bit more on like the uniparty corruption as people want to call it. So here's some background on that.
57:14 In early 2025, the FBI opened up a sweeping investigation into bribery on Capitol Hill between Navitech, a defense contractor and other several powerful members of Congress. The investigation was centered around admissions from Martin Cow, former CEO of Navitech, a naval defense contractor. And Cow was facing prison for fraud and campaign finance violations. And he was speaking to the FBI in hopes of reducing his sentence because that's how you do things. Okay, so Cal confessed to several to federal agents that his business model consisted of bribing public officials in exchange for government contracts and that the research Navitech
57:56 was providing to the government was often worthless. So central to the investigation was steak dinner and Cal told agents that he had, it was a steak dinner that Cal had with Senator Lindsey Graham in 2020. Graham had required Navitech to commit 40 $40,000 just to have this 45 minute dinner meeting, by the way, very lucrative to pay for access. And Navitech and Graham got exactly what they wanted. Okay, so Graham, Cal recalled to the FBI, was very abrupt and straight to the point. He asked how much Navitech wanted, to which they said, we want $10 million a year for three years. Graham asked Cal to pledge $100,000 in donations in exchange for his support, Cal told the FBI.
58:44 So that was part of Navitech's larger plan to court lawmakers into giving Navitech research and defense contracts. So also Navitech primarily targeted lawmakers from smaller states who sat on appropriations committees like Collins. Cow explained to the FBI because they wielded huge power over the budget while having fewer constituents to quote unquote feed. It's kind of gross. That's a weird way to put that.
59:09 It all started though back in early. early 2019 when Navitech approached the offices of Graham, Clyburn and another powerful Southern Carolinian lawmaker that was Representative Joe Wilson to try to get funding for a sham naval research project. Okay. So it's $9.5 million power and energy proposal promise cutting edge research on how to distribute the limited power on board a ship between multiple energy intense systems
59:38 like radars, lasers, lasers, and rail guns. Yet Navitech had zero people capable of doing the research it was pitching, said the former executive with direct knowledge of the work. Okay, so that didn't seem to be any concern, however, for the lawmakers who did pass the final spending bill containing that $9.5 million for Navitech's project back in December of 2019. And all of that kicked off the very lucrative relationship between Graham and Clyburn and Wilson and Navitek.
01:00:08 So Cal kicked off 2020 by making plans to spend $300,000 at a slew of political fundraisers. Navitech's lobbyists at the time were seeking private meetings with Graham, Wilson, and Clyburn where Cal planned to ask for significantly more federal funding. Cow eventually met with all three and asked each for $100,000, he told the FBI. And by August of 2020, Navitech had gotten word that Graham's and Wilson's committees would each each. support part of the company's request. Cal told agents he was gearing up to make more significant donations to those three by the end of the year. So, you know, there's so much more to this story.
01:00:50 But Jackson, I just want to get your thoughts on this real quick. You know, this is kind of interesting because we're hearing, what's her name? Elizabeth, Elizabeth, why can't think of her name? The Theranos girl. She's in. I can't either. What's going on? You just passed your amnesia on to me.
01:01:08 I keep on it. I keep on him to say Elizabeth Holmes. Elizabeth Holmes. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, we keep hearing more about her. Why would I deceive you? She was doing all this stuff and how they all, she said, you know, I have the science, I have all the tech and all these politicians just gave her money because they're like, oh, she's so smart and I guess she's pretty and she wears like a turtleneck and that was fun for them. I don't know. So this is like, it's just indicative of all these politicians who are just saying all this stuff and and giving money to these people and they really don't even know what they're giving money to. Well, you know, I got into politics through the tech industry, so I definitely. Give us your insight, yeah. Very expensive, lots and lots of money wasted and lots of good faith for people. Honestly, you just got way too much money and it doesn't make much of a difference that they blow it.
01:01:59 But in regards to this in particular, like, I just find it hilarious. Like, what does bribe really even mean in America anymore? because the Supreme Court has blurred those lines so to such a steep degree. You know, like you got you got political action committees, you got super political action committees. You have all these ways to funnel money. Ted Cruz, this was a couple of years ago. Ted Cruz brought some case to the Supreme Court that he won, or that the Supreme Court, you know, voted in favor of. that allows for campaigns to loan more money to themselves. There was a cap.
01:02:39 Now there's no cap on how much money a campaign can loan to itself. So you can imagine how much dark money can get funneled in that way. All these corporate donations, what is that more than a bribe? You know, a pharmaceutical company gives you all this money because they want to make sure that they can continue to charge Americans however much they want. And in other countries, they can't do that because they have to negotiate with the government. But here, that can't happen. So it's just like, you know, when we talk about these stories, it's like, well, it's all a bunch of bribery, which in large part is why we are in the position that we're in. Because it's so hard to compete with these endless coffers that corporate America has.
01:03:25 But, you know, Clyburn is, you know, he's on his way out regardless because, you know, he just how old he is. And hopefully what we can do is continue to get more progressive politicians elected into Congress. And I do think that we're going to be able to do that. And lastly, one of my biggest focuses just in terms of my personal involvement in politics is local initiatives. because I just think that it's so much more possible for us to get more left-wing policies through local government than it is for us to get some type of sweeping federal change. There's just less obstacles in the way and more of an opportunity for everybody to get involved. So I'm always going to be a champion for being involved in your community. Yeah, absolutely.
01:04:19 And especially now as we're talking, we're going into midterms. Like, people need to vote local. Like, that's such a thing, you know? And I know it's hard because it requires a lot more research. You have to do more than watch programs like TYT, but you got to do the work because those are the things that are really going to impact your community and your livelihood. So I just want to quickly update everyone. Martin Cow was arrested for defrauding the PPP loan program.
01:04:42 And then he was charged with making illegal campaign contributions to Susan Collins campaign and lobbyists, universities and congressional offices all cut off contact with Navitech and Cal. and based on Cal's own admissions to federal agents throughout his time in custody, the FBI moved forward with their investigation in 2024. But guess what happened? The investigation never happened because Trump was elected. And that is how things tend to go in this country these days. And on that note, we're going to break.
01:05:11 We're going to break for the second hour. Jackson, thank you so much for joining me. Oh, yeah, always good to be here. Normally I'm on the second hour, but it was nice to join you on the front. Same. I also am normally on the second hour. But I guess I'm John today. I guess so.
01:05:26 Yeah, so that's always fun for me to pretend to be John. Do you want to tell the people who are to find your work? Yeah, check me out at Politics and Paper on YouTube as YouTube.com slash at Politics and Paper. I'm back doing regular streams. I do my best again to provide people with different types of community resources. And I'm putting out regular documentaries, whether that be, you know, like tourism, stuff like hiking trails, restaurants. deeper projects that take more of a look at sociology. So again, check that out at politics and paper on YouTube. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. All right, well,
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01:10:10 And I know that I personally needed the connection. I can't stand these young people. Get them out of here. Hey everybody, welcome to the Young Turks. This is the second hour. I'm Yasmin Aaliyah Khan. I'm your host this evening. And I have with me, Was, how are you doing? It's been a while. I'm doing fantastic. Happy to be back on with you. I know. Yeah, we had Jackson in the first hour. I'm doing both hours today because there's no jank. So somebody said it's like the adults are out of town. So we're having a party. So we're here. I like that. Let's raid the liquor cabinet now. It's a weird party. It's a very, it's a very strange party, but that's, I guess that's what we do around here. So we're going to do it. So we do have quite a few stories to get to this hour is packed just like the last one. And we also have a bonus episode. So everybody, be sure to stick around for that. Waz will be here for the bonus as well. So let's get into our first story then. U.S. President Donald Trump has surrendered on the issue of data centers. And now he's kind of admitting that the American people were right all along. But for months, Trump has kind of like blasted his opponents of data centers and AI. So in August, this is what he posted to truth social.
01:12:02 He wrote, the only reason that communities throughout the United States should not want data centers is if they want to end up being backwards and poor. If they want to be successful and rich with far lower taxes and jobs all over the place, let data rain. The good news is that there are plenty of other places that want them. If we kill the golden goose, you will only have yourselves to blame. China could not be happier with this anti-data center movement. Actually, they can't believe it's happening. Okay. What did he say?
01:12:36 You should only not want data centers if you want to be poor. And poor is gross. Like it's such a weird statement. Okay, so Trump, however, has also been kind of crusading to rename artificial intelligence as super intelligence. So instead of AI, we have SI now. So let's see how that rebranding campaign is going for him. This kind of innovation in government is just a preview of what is possible with superintelligence or SI. And that's the official name in the United States.
01:13:09 I'll be signing a very powerful executive order. say artificial intelligence. It's artificial. This isn't, this is extreme intelligence. It's superior intelligence. It's supreme also intelligence. But the word super is the best word of all, and it's the simplest. And so we're going to be naming it SI super intelligence. We don't want to hear artificial because it's not artificial. It's very powerful. It's very brilliant. It's going to mostly be put to great use and will stop the bad use. Artificial intelligence is like the news, fake news. The word artificial.
01:13:50 In fact, I could call them artificial. It's super intelligence. In fact, it's in some ways too super. But it's real intelligence. It's, you know, very, very real intelligence. So I changed it. And they were all like when we talked about it yesterday. I had a room yesterday that was, I don't think they'll,
01:14:09 ever be another room like that. That was a who's who. And they all agreed that that would be a great word. We looked at superior intelligence. We looked at supreme intelligence, but I didn't want to mix it up with the Supreme Court. And we're way ahead on, I call it super intelligence SI. We're way ahead. It's the name that everyone's preferring now. Actually, companies are changing because it is indeed super. It's not artificial. Artificial is fake. It's super. It's super. It's super. Perfect. Unlock unlimited free grocery delivery with PC Express Pass. Shop online and get the same low No Frills prices delivered.
01:14:49 Get your first year of PC Express Pass for just $2.50 a month. Learn more at no frills.ca. That way, I'm, I kind of want to apologize. That was such a long clip of him just saying a lot of nothing over and over again. But in fairness to Donald Trump, American companies have followed his lead and renamed their AI technology to SI. I don't know why anyone entertains him, but that is what they do. Okay. However, the American people are still opposed to both AI and data centers, whether you call it AI or SI. So let's start with AI. Okay, 57% majority of Americans say that AI is bad for society, while 42% say it's good for
01:15:32 society. Only 2% say that it is extremely good for society, while 17% say it is extremely bad for society. Also, the majorities of the majorities of Democrats, 63% and independence, 58% say that AI is bad for society, while Republicans are more evenly split with 51% saying it's good and 47 saying it's bad for society. However, Americans are more likely to say the AI is good for them personally. So 50% say the AI is good for them and 49% say that it's bad for them when it comes to data centers, however. So two thirds of Americans at 66% oppose the construction of new data centers in the United States, growing to 72% when asked about building a new data center in their own community.
01:16:22 So that widespread opposition is why a bipartisan collection of politicians are now claiming to oppose unchecked data center buildouts. And the coalition includes, but is not limited to Republican Governor Greg Abbott and Democratic. Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro. Greg Abbott, though, he lies. So he said that he was going to stop approving all these new data centers in rural communities. Even when he said it at the time, it was very strange and he said that because it was like he was very careful with his words, come to find, you know, two weeks before he is seeking his reelection that no, like all of these things that he said he was pausing, they've just been continuing to grow. So anyway, Trump is finally bending to the will of the people, regardless of, you know, whatever all these other people are doing
01:17:10 in the Republican Party. Here's what he wrote just today on truth social. I'm sorry, this was yesterday. He said, as the president of the United States, I have been watching data centers very closely and have come to a very strong conclusion. New and large, in some cases, gigantic data centers are mandated by me to make their own electricity and give or sell any access back to the local community or grid, and therefore there is electric price increase. In fact, there could be a substantial decrease. Other elements, likewise, if companies want to make their data centers popular, pay the community and or individuals within the community a dividend.
01:17:48 He loves his dividends. I have watched the process closely in data centers that were highly unpopular in a certain area have become extremely popular when a financial deal is struck. Make deals and get them built. great for the USA. So was, did he really flip-flop his stance on these data centers? Not really. He's still very pro-data center.
01:18:10 He still thinks it's going to, you know, make us all competitive with China, which I guess is an improvement from before when he was trying to bring back coal. Like that was bad, but I don't like, I don't love this either. What are your thoughts there? I mean, is it an improvement? Is it neutral? I don't think so. I think it's all of a piece.
01:18:31 in terms of it being the same thing because if you just listen to him talk and stammer, you know, we've heard Donald Trump when he gets fired up about stuff like the border wall or immigration or ICE or, you know, that kind of stuff where he's really dialed in, locked in. He knows who his audience is. He knows exactly what they want out of this issue.
01:18:54 And he knows how to be as bombastic as possible in defending his stance. Think about when he's talking about the ballroom. He's very lucid. He can tell you every single thing down to the drapery, the minute details. He can get very in-depth with his ballroom because he really cares about it and he deeply understands it. And then you juxtapose that against his mealy-mouth, you know, AI rebrand. And you could tell he's just hearts just not in it.
01:19:24 Like these tech giants have told him that he needs to go out and back this to help to help them try to swing public support. But the problem is it's not the name. It's not the slogan airing. It's literally the faces of this emerging industry itself. These are people who in public every day will go on and say, oh, the AI has a 10% chance of becoming sentient and ending humanity. This is what tech, this is what these AI CEOs are saying out loud in public. Like people can read.
01:19:59 People have ears. Like you said there's a 10% chance. Your technology that you're developing, that you want to use our backyards, our property, our resources to develop will destroy humanity. And when they're not saying stupid stuff like that, which I'll get into why it's so stupid, they're talking about, oh, all it's going to do is take every single white collar job that's ever existed. So on the one hand, you got guys saying it's going to kill everyone. On the other hand, it's saying it's going to take every, put everybody out of job there by making them broke, hoppers, slave to this new, you know, ownership class in AI. And so like this idea that Donald Trump's going to come out and reverse what the faces of AI have come out and said themselves is ludicrous. And you might wonder, yeah, it's like, man, why don't they stop saying crazy extremist, stupid.
01:20:58 rhetoric like that because it's good for their bottom line. They've convinced themselves that if Wall Street thinks they're developing this all-knowing, all-pop, powerful, sentient, godlike technology that would be worth trillions and trillions of dollars. So they
01:21:14 are incentivized to say this. Whether they believe it or not, even though I think some of them are true believers, I just think some of them have just drank their own Kool-Aid and are beyond the realm of sentient, regular people. And I'll just end on this.
01:21:30 Like people like Mark Zuckerberg, you know, the CEO of Google's like, yo, bro, it's software. Like we might develop something one day that makes it, you know, more efficient to sell people's stuff and, you know, make the processes better and advertising better and we'll make money off for that, blah, blah, blah. But they talk in a very sober tone.
01:21:51 They talk in tones of business. Whereas some of these other guys are just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, anthropic? No, this, oh my God, I can't release this new one. It's, oh, it's just too powerful. It's ridiculous. But they're the ones that have caused this problem. And people out across America in red states, blue states, they want to have a say
01:22:14 and maybe not allowing these folks to develop a technology that's going to make their life materially worse. Yeah. And it's like what you were saying. You know, I can't imagine why people are apprehensive about AI. Our society is not advanced enough to deal with something like AI. We don't have the infrastructure for it. We don't have the societal infrastructure for it.
01:22:36 It's like what you said, people don't want to lose their jobs. They keep telling us that people don't want to work. We don't want to do all these things. We do. We are trying to work. People are trying to find work. We are trying to put our skills to good use. We don't want to do these menial jobs, right?
01:22:51 We want to pursue our creative interests and things like that. and AI is threatening kind of all of that. The big dream of AI that was sold to us, however many years ago, you know, when it wasn't Terminator-esque, was that we would have more time to sit at home, be with our families, pursue our creative endeavors, you know, do things like that without having to do really tedious jobs in cubicles for eight to nine hours a day, 40 hours a week, right? Like, that was the dream. And that infrastructure has not been set up, right? There is our government isn't equipped to deal with it. We're not equipped to deal with it emotionally, psychologically, mentally as a society, spiritually even, you know, like none of that is in place.
01:23:37 And then they keep just like forcing this technology on a people who like we're not even like ready to accept it into our society. So there's so many issues with it. And then that's even before you even consider all of the environmental impacts that come with it. But we were talking in the first hour about a story where APEC was kind of acknowledging that they're not very popular right now. So they're kind of going underground with their operations. They're still doing it, but they're being sneakier about it. That is very similar to, I think, what we're seeing here with AI and with these data centers. I mentioned Governor Greg Abbott here in Texas.
01:24:12 He's straight upside. You know, I'm going to put a pause on all these data centers and we're not going to build them in rural areas and things like that. And it sounded really good. But even at the time, I was like, that is not what he's doing. Like, because the man lies. And he even said, he's on camera. Like, he said it publicly that he wants Texas to have the most data centers anywhere. You know, he wants this to be the AI center for the United States.
01:24:37 Like, he wants to do that. And he's going to do it. And so even when he said that he was pausing the data centers, he was continuing to approve the building of these data centers the entire time. So now that's been revealed. He is up for re-election, whether or not the people of Texas are that's going to be a factor. Not just the fact that he's building the data centers that are very unpopular with the people here, but the fact that he lied about it, I don't know. We'll see. This is Texas we're talking about. So anyway, we're going to take a break and we'll be right back with more. Ready, let's check out some of your comments. Durge. This is over on t.com. Durge says, yes, you sew your own clothes. That's Max Cool. in my book, thank you.
01:26:03 That was because in the first hour, I said I wasn't as cool as Jackson, which I still think is just like objectively, he is much cooler than most people. Let's see, Tynetta says Trump will not say Putin is wrong for keeping the Ukrainian land. If he does, he would have to say Israel is wrong for keeping the land they stole. Yeah, that's always been a really interesting dynamic, the dynamic between the people who want to support both Ukraine and Israel, because, well, you all know why that's an interesting. interesting dynamic. It's always been strange. I think people want to feel as though they were on the good side of history by defending the victims or whatever. But here we are. We all know what
01:26:43 it really is over in Israel and what they're doing in Palestine. So Seagacious Dragon says every single one of the January 6th partons was executed by the Trump auto pen. That is interesting. And that was referencing Alina Haba who was saying that Joe Biden just loves to do all this auto pen stuff. And she was against that and she's against corruption. Serenity now, former known as Mr. In Between, says Yaz and Waas, awesome. It is awesome and it has been a while, so we're both very excited. We're back. Everybody, welcome back to the show. You have Yaz and Woz here with you. We have plenty more stories to get to. So we're going to jump right into this next one. We are releasing the most powerful technology that we have ever invented. We're doing it faster than we deployed every other
01:27:51 technology in human history. It's as of since the time you did the interview with Nate, it's displaying even more of the sci-fi behaviors of hacking into things, convincing people to put back doors into software, exfiltrating itself, knowing when it's being evaluated, changing what it's doing based on when it's being evaluated. It's doing more of that. And we're releasing this fascinating to deploying their technology and history under the maximum incentives to cut corners on safety. with an arms race dynamic that feels existential to everybody involved, so they're willing to take the maximum shortcuts on safety. This is a very dangerous equation, and the people building this do not have a plan for how this goes well. So ex-Google whistleblower Tristan Harris recently warned Tucker Carlson that the leading tech companies are completely unprepared for an AI-related disaster.
01:28:43 But it gets even more strange than that. So sources tell both Harris and Tucker Carlson that some tech figures literally believe that they are going to create the apocalypse and they think that's a good thing. Let's watch. There's a quote I wanted to read you actually from someone who a friend of mine who interviewed a lot of the people at the top AI labs. And I just feel like this quote captures the, I was once in a room with several people from Anthropic and a couple of the other companies and I read this quote and they're like, if that is exactly what explains what's going on. So let me read it to you. And it says, in the end, a lot of the tech people I'm talking to, when I really grill them on it, like, why are you doing this? They retreat into number one, determinism. It's going to happen.
01:29:30 Number two, the inevitable replacement of biological life with digital life. And number three, that being a good thing anyways. At its core, these are criminals. These are criminals. At its core, it's an emotional desire to meet and speak to the most intelligent entity. that they've ever met, and they have some ego religious intuition that they'll somehow be a part of it. It's thrilling to start an exciting fire. They feel they'll die either way, so they prefer to light it and see what happens. So that comports exactly with what I've seen. That's exactly the vibe
01:30:05 you get from these people. Okay, so there's obviously been a lot of debate about AI, but could it really bring about the end of the world? That is what everyone wants to know. Harris explains why he believes that AI is actually uniquely very dangerous. AI is different from other technologies because it accelerates its own progress. We should probably just say why that's true. So like if I invent a nuclear weapon, I did the nuclear physics, I assembled the thing together. I've got the uranium, plutonium, blah, blah, blah, I create the thing. But once I build the nuke, it doesn't accelerate or invent better versions of nuclear weapons. No. It doesn't do that. It doesn't just like,
01:30:46 Spontaneously create a hydrogen bomb. No, no. But if I'm inventing intelligence, meaning the ability to do pattern recognition, goal achieving, training on all human language, I can use that intelligence to take the code that trained AI and make it way more efficient.
01:31:05 I can take the intelligence I've created and say point it at chip design. Say, take this chip design and make it more efficient and it does that. So now you have a more efficient chip design more efficient code training the next more powerful version of AI and then that next more powerful version and it becomes exponential. Yeah. So the way to say it's nukes don't make better nukes, but AI makes better, faster, more crazy AI. So according to a report from Axios,
01:31:34 top AI companies are already briefing lawmakers on how to respond if their own technology does lead to a crisis event. So they're even gaming out scenarios for a public and political revolt after a catastrophic AI event. Okay. So top executives at Anthropic, Open AI, and other AI companies anticipate a large scale event, most likely a cyber attack that shuts down access to financial services, internet connectivity, or even power and water. So they're worried that the disasters listed would turn an already wary public further against the technology and its leaders, including Anthropic CEO, Dario Amode, Amode, and opens AI CEOs. Sam Altman, as well as President Trump for his reluctance to regulate it.
01:32:21 And reluctance, I think, is putting it mildly, just like his complete disinterest in regulating anything ever. So several AI industry insiders told Axios that they believe a major event will occur within the next six to 12 months. So what is the plan? Okay, this is just like what we were talking about in the last story. What is the plan here? Are we equipped to deal with it?
01:32:42 Well, the planning involves red teaming for worst case scenario. It focuses mainly on racing to educate members of Congress. Oh, good luck with that. Okay, like these members of Congress, they barely understand how Facebook works. All right, like that's what we're dealing with here. If that is the hope we need, we need a new Congress is what we need. So company executives, no regulation has no chance of passing right now, but still want to shape the legislation and policies U.S. leaders will turn to after a first catastrophic event.
01:33:14 So not if something happens, but you know, when. the first one happens, the first one, because there will be more catastrophic events, I guess. So the Axios report ends with a line that is supposed to be optimistic, but probably won't make you feel any better. It says in a real crisis, Washington can set partisan differences aside. One Democratic aide pointed to cooperation during COVID and the 2008 financial crisis. Oh, COVID. Oh, I remember COVID. Yeah, we were so cooperative. The country, we were just united. We were so united during COVID and also the 2008 financial crisis. Yeah, great.
01:33:50 Those are great examples. So the financial, like these are just like infamously well handled by the government. Weren't they was like that? I feel great about that. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple of problems. I have a lot of problems with this Axios piece. And, you know, this dude that's on Tucker being an AI doomsday. Like, to full disclosure, I'm not an AI skeptic.
01:34:16 Like, I think it's obvious that it's a powerful technological tool. And I think that at the very least, it will have very pronounced effects on white collar work, for sure. I don't think it's going to bring about the end of the world. I don't think, I don't believe this narrative that, you know, open AI hacked into some bank, blah, blah, blah. bro, if your program did that, it's because you programmed it to. Like, I love this idea that a software acts, you know, of its own volition. And it's not, like literally it's in the word. It's programmed to do that.
01:34:55 So if your open AI software broke into some Korean bank, you just committed a crime. We should put you in jail for that. You know what I mean? But the problem for us is that, especially in our government, the people in leadership positions are all geriatric as hell. And you know they're very susceptible to this ridiculous rhetoric. Even this stuff about,
01:35:18 oh, some catastrophic event is coming. And like all the people at the wheels are like, yeah, let's make it happen. Let's voluntarily get into some catastrophe because vaguely we have some idea that China's going to be better than us at this. But China's version is not going to kill all the Chinese people. It's just like honestly that this maximalist AI language is ridiculous.
01:35:44 Like I really want people at home to like calm down. Don't let this again, it's important to remember it's in these people's the interests of their bottom line for people to think that they're in charge of this all powerful force that's going to own the future. that's going to have slaves, human slaves in the future because the tech is so powerful. It's BS. It's software, bro. Like, that's all it is. Okay?
01:36:14 AI can't put gas in your car. Can't heat your home. Okay? Like, it can't feed your kids. It's not going to be your babysitter when you go off the work. It's not going to do all of the things that we need to live a day-to-day life. Yes, a lot of these email jobs, a lot of these computer jobs, will be deeply affected.
01:36:36 The rest of life, as we know it, will not. I'm sorry, they did not reinvent the wheel. This is not the same thing as indoor plumbing or electricity or the car or the plane. It's just not. And these people want us to believe that because guess what? Their old game is no longer returning profits at the rate that it once was. Like they know they're not going to invent the next Google or Facebook or, you know, Amazon or whatever.
01:37:05 They're like, man, hopefully maybe we pray. We find the next thing as profitable as those old tech giants were for these guys 20 and 15 years ago. And so it's my opinion of it, man. I think these dudes is blowing a lot of smoke. But I do want to say this too because I think we make this mistake on the left all the time
01:37:25 when people we don't agree with hold opinions and values that we find to be ridiculous. We think that they're grifting, that it's just lying? No, I think a lot of these dudes believe this, but I think a lot of these guys are unwell. They're anti-social. These people don't like themselves.
01:37:44 They don't like human beings. And just because they were good at making social networks so people could sell us jeans with seven pockets more efficiently, doesn't mean they should get to dictate how society is organized going forward. Right? Like back in the days, it was people like the Carnegie's, and the J.P. Morgan's, they weren't these type of people. And so, like, I need people to recognize, like, these are deeply antisocial people
01:38:12 telling us their deepest desire for humanity, which they absolutely freaking hate. And so they're wishcasting a death for all of us because they can't relate to us. They feel alienated from us because they're weird. Yeah. They're deeply repulsive people. They're ghoulish. And so that's what I think is. happening with all of this AI talk, especially from the anthropic dude and Sam Altman.
01:38:38 These guys are clowns, dude. Yeah, you know what they remind me of a little bit? Like, you know, when you have to choose partners in school and there's always like that kid who wants a teacher to choose partners for everyone because they don't have a friend to be their partner, that's what they remind me of. It's like, well, no one wants to be my partner. So, like, I have to do AI and take over the world now. Like, that's what it feels like for me.
01:39:01 But no, but I do agree with you. Like, I guess I'm not as scared that the world is going to end. Like, I don't believe that in my gut, you know. I don't, however that would happen. But I am like more tech skeptical than most people, I think. Like, I don't like it. My job revolves around technology on social media and things like that. And I kind of like still am very, yeah, very hesitant to get involved with it.
01:39:28 But AI, like, again, my concerns with AI are not. not so much to do with the tech itself, but definitely more to do with the fact that we do not have leaders in place, not at the executive level, not in Congress, not at the state level, like nowhere that are actually capable of guiding this country through this transition that they keep insisting we need to go through. I don't think it needs to happen as quickly as they want to do it. I don't think it needs to happen the way they wanted to happen. People are going to lose jobs. There's no safety net. They have no, they have no plan for what's supposed to happen into the actual people.
01:40:01 They're just continuing to push this forward. And then there's like the Ponzi scheme of all of it, the way that it's being built up, however many billions of dollars, I was it, 80 or like something billion dollars that Anthropic lost. And it's just like they're losing so much money because they don't have a way to make this technology profitable. And instead people are just losing their jobs over it, right? Individual companies might get more money, but then that's still contributing to the overall
01:40:27 wealth inequality in this country, which is already ran. and already terrible. All right? So that's kind of where I stand on the issue. I'm not like afraid of the technology itself, but there are there are some concerns where the governance of it actually is very concerning. And then there's, you know, there's also the fact that everybody here loves a good was rant and it's been a while since I've had one.
01:40:54 So thank you very much for that. Yeah. And look, I'll leave the audience with this. audience with this, it's like when you see that nobody in Congress, the president of either party wants to do anything about it, because, you know, our government, we're living through, you know, what people call the neoliberal consensus, which is like both parties believe in deregulate the hell out of every single industry, and that's going to allow profits to spray. And, you know, I think the public has gotten to a point where we all know neoliberalism is crap and is no longer working.
01:41:38 I think it's important to admit when they first, and my guy Danny Bessner brings this up all the time. When they first started this, it actually did work. It actually did increase the rate of profit for a bunch of firms. It turned out like deregulation did lead to a bunch of capital investment. And it did lead to increased rates of profitability for a bunch of. of the biggest firms in the company. I mean, in the country, however, it's over. And we need to come up with something else.
01:42:06 But because that's just the consensus and all these dudes are old as dirt, it's just going to take a while for the actual powers that be to be like, all right, man, like industry like AI being like, yo, let's just deregulate it. Like we've done every single thing else. Like it's glass beagle or something like that. It's like, you know, it's ridiculous. And so I think things will change eventually, but, you know, this stuff takes so long to happen. I mean, I'm not encouraged by the fact that they're like, oh, our best way forward is to just educate members of Congress.
01:42:42 And I'm like, great, good luck with Susan Collins. Like, just good luck. Good luck with that. Educate Mitch McConnell. Yeah. Well, oh, God. I forgot about, I forgot about Mitch McConnell. All right.
01:42:52 On that note, we're going to take another break. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody. Let's check out some comments over on Twitch. Okay, I appreciate this comment so much. This is from Raiyul and says, is this TYat? Are we ending the first hour on time? Yes, we, yes, okay, because I am so sick.
01:43:38 Where's John? Is he watching? I'm so sick of John cutting into my hour. Every time I'm hosting the second hour. and then I just have to wait for John to finish. So thank you. So I gave myself full hours this time. So thank you.
01:43:51 I'm very proud of that. YTP Renewed says, I'm starting to think that Trump literally doesn't know what artificial means. Yeah. I mean, he says it's not artificial intelligence. It's super intelligence. It's real intelligence. Whatever.
01:44:04 And he's going to sign what do you say? A very strong or very great executive order to change it. Like it's not even a real name. It's just like people, I don't know. You don't know. need to executive order to that. Factually active says, I support the defense of democracy. It's rational and expected. Thank you. Octa Squitty says, Trump is running America like one of his businesses, running it straight into the ground bankrupt. That is, that's exactly what he does with
01:44:30 his businesses. He doesn't on purpose. And he makes more money after doing that. Watch one NG. That's a crazy name. Watching, waiting. That's what it says. Okay. Yaz hosted the first TYT live show I watched back in full in full back in 2024. Yaz fan, thank you. That's fun. I hope I was good back in 2024. I probably didn't know what I was doing, but that's fun. All right.
01:44:56 Bear back. Welcome back. You have Yaz and Was with you. We have a couple more stories. We're going to try to get to in this last hour. But then stick around for the bonus. We have a couple more stories for you there. All right.
01:45:31 So let's get into this one. So we're on a bus. by the Israeli military for harvesting hollings. And let's be clear, occupation is a crime under international law. Harvesting olives is not a crime under any of law. But here we are, with all these rabbis and Americans, and we're told the Israelis are on a different bus.
01:45:51 Again, we don't know if we're being arrested, but at least we're being detained. You know, we're just in a field harvesting office and the Israeli military after you're called by Southwest security, have detained us, put us on this bus, and are taking us away from processing. So I will keep you posted as best we can.
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01:46:27 Get your first year of PC Express Pass for just $2.50 a month. Learn more at nofrills.ca. So New York Congressional candidate Brad Lander was determined. by the IDF yesterday during a visit to the West Bank for harvesting olives, because apparently that is a crime now. Lander was visiting the occupied West Bank to participate in an annual olive harvest alongside Palestinian farmers and over 40 international volunteers, including
01:46:56 Americans, and 28 Israelis and rabbis. So they wrote this on X. This is from Brad Lander. He said, I'm in the West Bank this week as part of the Protect the Harvest Coalition along with Israelis peace New York and UCP-I-N Palestine and protect the harvest, which is bringing people together from around the world to help Palestinian farmers harvest olives in the face of state-sanctioned settler terrorism. Our goals for the trip are to help protect the olive harvest and to shed a light on the reality of the occupation, to ensure that international solidarity goes beyond the harvest, to become a sustained commitment. to protecting Palestinian communities from settler violence, forced displacement, and the ongoing
01:47:41 threats to their right to remain on their land. So just to give you some background here, the annual olive harvest, which began last month, is a significant Palestinian cultural right and an economic lifeline for Palestinian villages in the West Bank. Attacks by Israeli extremist settlers in the territory has spiked in recent weeks the latest in a surge of settler violence against Palestinians over the last few years. Yes, we're familiar with that by now. Lander, who is himself Jewish, has been a long time advocate for Palestinian rights. And he has previously called Israel's occupation of the West Bank a crime under international law.
01:48:21 So Landers said that the Palestinian owner of the Grove, that he and the other volunteers were working on on Wednesday, had been unable to harvest aloes since October 2023, because, of the fear of settler violence. Lander also said that the volunteers had harvested olives on Monday and Tuesday in another area of the West Bank without incident. So according to Lander,
01:48:46 the group was harvesting for about two hours until they were interrupted by ID of soldiers and police asking for their passports. They were then immediately loaded onto a bus and driven to a military station and we saw him there in that clip on that bus. They were not asked to leave
01:49:02 or halt harvesting. they were just detained. So what exactly was the problem? Well, in a statement, the Israeli military said it had detained dozens of people in an area near the Israeli settlement of Beatar elite due to the security risk posed by conducting an uncoordinated harvest near an Israeli community. Oh, no, the unposed risk of gathering olives near Israelis. They just can't be near Israelis, but, you know, that's where you decided to set up your
01:49:32 shop is near the Palestinians. So they also said harvesting in this area requires a request to be submitted to the relevant authorities in advance of the start of the olive harvest season. This coordination is necessary to ensure the security of the area and maintain public order. It seems that the people who are being more disorderly are the IDF themselves. Okay, so they didn't mention the nationalities of those who are detained. However, Israeli police later stated that upon learning about Lander being a candidate for Congress, he was released because they were like, ooh, that's not a bad, that's not a good look. So a spokesperson for Protect the Harvest, which was one of the volunteer groups involved, said that all but four volunteers have since
01:50:15 been released from their detainment. The Israeli members of the board are barred from returning to the West Bank for 28 days. And Lander was released with a warning because of his public profile, but Israel's foreign ministry made it clear that this is going to be the only warning that he gets. So they wrote a statement on X. This is from the Israel foreign ministry. They said, this was not about harvesting olives. This was about harvesting headlines. Whoa. Brad Landers's latest stunt is nothing more than a calculated political provocation. Lander traveled to a foreign country, deliberately entered a restricted security area, and participated in an unauthorized activity without the required coordination.
01:50:58 Which makes the stunt even more outrageous is that his own team contacted Israeli representatives in the United States ahead of his visit and was explicitly informed that proper coordination with the relevant authorities was required. He chose to ignore those instructions at a time of heightened security tensions. Israeli security forces have a responsibility
01:51:19 to protect lives, prevent dangerous incidents, and maintain public order. Had anyone been injured as a result of his reckless political theater. Oh my God. Lander would undoubtedly have been among the first to demand that Israeli authorities intervene and provide protection. Brad Lander came looking for a confrontation.
01:51:39 Now he's pretending to be it's a victim. Well, the Israelis would know a lot about that, wouldn't they? So why would Palestinians need permission to harvest olives on their own land? That's a good question. The only danger that they would face would be from the illegal settlers who are actually in that area. So according to Yashdin and Israeli human rights group since late September, there have already been more than 95 violent episodes connected to the olive harvest. So within the last week, settlers in the West Bank have also attacked and badly injured, a Washington Post journalist
01:52:11 Heidi Levine who was covering the olive harvest and also attacked a group of European officials and diplomats who were attending the harvest in solidarity with the Palestinians. Olive oil for the Palestinians is kind of their lifeblood in a lot of ways. And they sell it. And a lot of people make a lot of money off of it. But it's really good olive oil also. I've bought it before. It's really, really good.
01:52:33 And the fact that the Israelis are like, you know, Palestinians doing olive oil stuff, which they've been doing for centuries, that's now a security threat to the Israelis who are nearby. Why are the Israelis nearby? That's a good question, was. What do you think? I mean, it's not what I think. It's just obvious what's happening.
01:52:53 It is what it is. You know, just for people to do some quick math, I mean, if we want to be, let's have a robust estimate of how many Palestinians are part of armed resistance against Israel. Like, let's just say it's 100,000 people. Let's just say that. And that would be on the high end. Palestinian people over there who are part of armed resistance against Israel. There's five million people over there. Okay. Like they live amongst five million Palestinian people. And so to have a policy that's this brutal and this inhumane, it just shows you they've come to the
01:53:39 conclusion and it's like, this is what we're going to do. Like we don't have the means or the political cover to completely eradicate 5 million people right now or forcibly move them because it would just take a lot, even with the IDF as all powerful as it is now, for them to literally just drive these people out, 5 million at a time. Right? Like they don't have the wherewithal to do so. So they're like, all right, we're going to do the next best thing. We're going to make your life here as uninhabitable as humanly possible.
01:54:14 We don't want you to live like a human being here. We're basically going to treat you like animals. You don't get to have houses. You don't get to have schools. You don't get to have hospitals. You don't get to have peace. You certainly don't get to have olive oil that you get to make money off of. And that's just the policy.
01:54:33 And, you know, it's funny. I'm fascinated by guys like Lander because at a certain point, I think he's... So when you... have, when you're close to Jewish people in America, there are people who they believe
01:54:54 in the project of Israel, right? They just think that whatever is happening is justified because of X, Y, Z, whatever, all the things, terrible things that happened to the Jews in Europe for thousands of years. And that's just where they're at. Like, there's no convincing them. It's just like, yeah, it's not that they wouldn't admit that
01:55:10 it was messed up. They would just say, like, look, this is in service, of something that I truly believe in, which is the project of Jewish people living in a Jewish controlled state by any means necessary. And that's their policy towards it. And they'll be like, yeah, it's messed up what happened to them kids. But this project is more important than that. Okay, cool.
01:55:32 We would all disagree with them. That's cool. But at least to me, they have a pretty clear understanding of where they stand with this state and what it means and the actions that the state. carries out and whose name that it's in and the project that it seeks to service. Guys like Brad Lander, it feels like he's trying his hardest to find the last bit of humanity left in Zionist policy. And he just can't bring himself to get to the point. Oh, that was Google. He just can't bring himself to the point of just being like, no, I'm waging war,
01:56:14 against these guys. I'm going to do whatever it takes to sabotage what these guys are trying to do over there. You can tell he's like, just this missing alone. It's like, well, we're good Jews. We love our fellow Jews. We're recognizing the humanity of the Palestinians that still live here.
01:56:30 We should be able to go. It's like, bro, get that out your mind. It's beyond you and your appeal to some level of wanting to see humanity in the Israeli government's policy here.
01:56:48 Like, it's over, bro. Yeah, it's also the way that they were saying that, oh, you know, he came looking for a fight and he got one and this is a political stunt and whatever. Why would him harvesting al-as in Palestine be something that's like provoking a fight from the IDF? You know what I mean? Like, why are you so easily provoked by this that this is what,
01:57:12 you know, and he got it. I mean, why would anybody be surprised by this, though? It's been three years of this, guys. Like, they blew up a food truck. They, like, bro, they blew up. I mean, a few times, right? Right. They blew up Jose Andresa's food truck.
01:57:29 Double tap they asses. Yeah. Like, what are we talking about here? Like, this is the policy. Like, at a certain point, it has to be surprising when something humane does happen out of these people. Like, this is the policy. see. Yeah, I mean, it's really sad that there's still people who defend this one. It's also
01:57:49 blatant. It's all right there. And the fact that, you know, harvesting olives is now considered like a provocative act, even though, again, this is like a centuries old practice. This is what happens in this part of the world. I've bought that olive oil. It is good. And it goes back to those communities, you know, like these people depend on that. But yeah, you're absolutely right. They're taking away not just their access to food and to the resources that they need, but they're also preventing them from making their own money, from earning any kind of living and income for themselves and for their communities and for their families. So it's all like very systemic. It's all very evil is what it is. And there's really no other word for it. And the fact that
01:58:29 somebody gets detained for being provocative for supposedly picking a fight just by picking olives with the Palestinians, that says a lot. And the fact, like the way that the Israelis put out that press release or they put out that tweet and they're like, yeah, you know what? This was just like he was looking for headlines and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, even if he was, like, why did he know that you guys would respond that way? And then why did you respond that way? You know what I mean? Like, why was that a thing that would be considered a bad thing by the IDF?
01:59:02 And why are you so predictable that someone like Bradlander would know that, that we would all know that somebody would know that if the Palestinians are doing anything and And if there's people helping them from the international community, that the IDF would take that a little personally. You know, like you were picking olives and I took that personally. That's what the IDF said. Like that was what that was the tweet that they put out. And it's ridiculous. And I don't know.
01:59:26 I know it's just olive oil that we're talking about. And so it feels weird to like get so worked up about olive oil, but it's not. It's just like it's everything. It's everything. So anyway, let's see. I think we're going to, should we just wrap this the second? hour and we'll come back in the break. So let's do that. Oh. No, we're not wrapping up, guys. We're not wrapping. We're not, we're not, we're not, we're not freaking leaving,
01:59:51 like the Wolf of Wall Street. We're not leaving. We're just going to stay. We're going to stay. My producer is like, no, no, no. She's like, whatever you're doing, stop doing it. But I do, okay, so I do have some comments that I want to read to you guys. This is from I, I, A damn lib says an Olive Grove in a restricted area pretty clear that the Zionists want the place uninhabitable for the Palestinians. They've ruined everything that makes life livable. But all of that is like very, very much on brand with what they've been doing for the last several years. And like, it's like what Was was saying. Like, why is any of this surprising? Why is this surprising to anyone right now? And then Arkansas Jack says, I'm 75. I like this show with Jazz, Was and Jackson. This is a
02:00:41 youth perspective that I need at my age. Thank you. I'm looking. Arkansas Jack, what up, baby? I know. Yeah, I love that I'm considered the youth. Thank you. That is fun. But it's, you know, it is interesting. I am glad that there's like so many different perspectives that watch this channel. And like, that's not, I'm not just saying that, like, it really is like a valuable thing. I know my parents watch TYT and a lot of people. I know Jenk has been doing a lot of outreach also. I saw him in the breakfast club the other day. That was a That was a good interview. But it's true, especially now I'm during election season and I live in Texas, which I'm sure everybody knows by now. And it's tough out here because I'm like, you see all the things that are happening with the election cycle. And it's really tough to look at these things and be like, who is falling for this? And please, I hope that somebody is at least talking to these people to get through to them. And I know it's a hard ask because it's hard to get through to certain people. And trust me, I know I live among them. But it's, I'm always glad when there's people who are out here and paying attention and wanting to learn.
02:01:47 Ian Golbis says, look at the age of the Senate. They probably still use a hotmail.com email account, probably. And we're going to teach them all about AI. And that's going to go great for all of us, I'm sure. So it's, you know, it's going to be good. It's going to, we're in great hands was. I feel terrible about it. I'm not worried.
02:02:10 We're going to be fine. I mean, it's not so much like the AI itself that is concerning. It is the, yeah, just the leadership. You know, honestly, to me, the thing that's most concerning is that we're minting, like these companies are going to mint so many brand new billionaires, thereby minting so many brand new people who will have outsized influence on the way we live our life. lives and how we're governed. That bothers me. That gets on my nerve. AI and technology, but all of these brand new, very rich people thereby becoming very influential. And this is
02:02:50 their view of society and humanity that it should all come crashing down and that they should get to pray to a computer. What the hell? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the thing with the AI, And again, like, I'm very like Luddite, right? Like I, if I could have less technology in my life, I would and I would be very, very happy there. But it's just, I'm just not confident that anybody knows what to do with this technology yet, including the people who are pushing it on us, right? Sam Altman has not figured out a way to make it profitable.
02:03:22 I even asked ChatGBTGBT about that. I was like, what's with Sam Altman? Because I got an ad on ChatGBT, and I was like, oh, didn't he say no ads? And Chat TPT was like, yeah, that was not his best moment. That was not great when he said that because he said he was never going to go into ads because he thought they were like tacky, which they are. But he also said he wasn't going to go into porn, which he also was like more amenable to you later. He was like maybe we'll do porn a little bit, you know, like a little bit of porn. And, you know, in a way that's very progressive of him, I guess.
02:03:55 So it's, I got to get got to get those user hours up. I don't know. I'm trying to like be excited about about technology and not be such an old lady about it. And like, oh, I only want like the technology that was available in the 90s. But kind of, yeah, because I feel like if the technology is not actually advancing things in a way that the people are like excited about, like the iPhone, I'm tired of it. You know, like they have a new iPhone out and it folds now and I'm like great. Like I just want this one to work. I just want a better battery life on this one.
02:04:27 And that's it, you know, because now my phone keeps dying even though I feel like, shouldn't. So and they want, you know, what, $2,000 more for that. So these technologies, they keep rolling out and they're not really like just making our lives demonstrably better after a certain point. Okay, so not an AI in the super chat says, slams hand on the table. Yes, emote now. Yeah. Who do I need to, who do I need to fight, you know, to get my emojis out there? Apparently it's my fault that I never submitted my stuff that I was supposed to give them. So, So maybe I will get on that and I apologize. But anyway, stick around for the bonus episode.
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