This Past Weekend - #675 - Professor Jiang

Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's guest is a teacher, geopolitics expert, and YouTuber, known for his popular channel predictive history, where he breaks down why global events happen and what could come next. We covered a lot of ground here, war in the Middle East, China versus America, secret societies. I had a fascinating chat with today's guest, Professor Zhang. Professor Zhang? Hey Theo. Is that correct? That's correct. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:00:46 Professor Zhang, thank you so much for coming by today. Well, thanks so much for inviting me. Yeah, very happy to have you. Is this your first time in Los Angeles? It's my first time in Los Angeles. Yeah. And how's the experience been so far? It's been surreal.

Starting point is 00:00:58 So your producers have been wonderful. They put me in this fantastic hotel. And I went for a walk around the neighborhood, West Hollywood. So I went down some... San Monica Boulevard. Oh, yeah. It's just gorgeous. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:16 Just the streets are so illuminated and the business are so beautiful. But then, you know, as I'm walking, there's in the middle of the sidewalk a pile of dog shit. Yeah. So I walk past it. And it takes me a couple of minutes to realize that didn't come from a dog, actually. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's been surreal. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:38 We got a lot of tall dogs in this area. Yeah. Yeah. That's just a little decoration, brother. That's how it goes here. And if you're lucky, it'll have a needle in it in the middle. It's freedom, man. It is freedom, man.

Starting point is 00:01:51 Professor Zhang, thank you so much for just making the trip for coming and joining us. I know you're from your channel, your YouTube channel, predictive history. Can you tell us a little bit about your channel for people that don't know about it? Yeah, so I'm a high school teacher. And what I try to do is try to explain geopolitics in a way that students can, appreciate. And what I try to do is, when my analysis, I try to make predictions. And that's a really good way to engage students, as well as to test my own worldview, my own hypothesis. And so two years ago, while I was sitting in this class, I made three predictions. The first is that Trump would win

Starting point is 00:02:31 in 2024 and that he would launch this war against Iran and that he would lose this war. And I blow up online because it turns out that all three predictions should not be accurate. Well, the first two for sure, and that's how you came on my radar was with those two predictions. That's all I learned about you at first. Right.

Starting point is 00:02:50 And before we move on with it, do you teach at high school? That's right. I teach at high school level. What's something that's kind of unique about a school in China, maybe that we wouldn't know? Well, there are no guns.

Starting point is 00:03:00 Oh, okay. Yeah. Good. You win? You win. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:03:07 So I've been China and we're just brainwashed all the time American schools, an American culture. But at least your brainwashed not to have guns in school. Yeah, yeah. That's some of the positive brainwashing, at least. Yeah, you came on my radar whenever I saw the videos about your, you're predicting your Trump win and predicting the war in Iran.

Starting point is 00:03:26 I noticed that you used something called game theory. Yes. Can you explain game theory just so people know? Yeah, so the native game theory is that if you want to analyze someone's behavior, You have to look at three things. First of all, you have to look at the structure of the game. How do you win the game? What are the rules?

Starting point is 00:03:48 What are the incentives? And once you figure that out, then you can figure out his or her optimal behavior in this game. So in terms of geopolitics, just imagine the United States, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, as distinct players in the game, which they're trying to maximize the outcome again. each other, and they will use their own unique strategies in order to achieve so.

Starting point is 00:04:14 And that's how I'm able to make some amazing predictions. Yeah, I know the game theory. I remember first hearing about it in that film Beautiful Mind. Oh, yes, yes. Who was the, what was the guy's name, Nick? John Nash. John Nash, yeah, he uses that, like whenever he's examining things or trying to figure things out, he uses that in there.

Starting point is 00:04:34 That's right. Anyway, crazy, too. Yeah, anyway crazy. So best a lot. Right, thank you. Best of luck, professor. Yeah, let's talk about the war in Iran. Let's start there because that's fresh.

Starting point is 00:04:44 That's on everybody's mind right now. Yeah. Do you think it could be our new Vietnam? Or what do you, like, how are you viewing the war in Iran right now? Yeah, the best case scenario is that becomes America's Vietnam. But I think the problem is that- That's best-case scenario. That's best-case scenario, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:00 But I think the problem is that this war is expanding very rapidly. So before, a few months ago, it was limited to a war between, Israel, United States, and Iran. And now it's brought in Saudi Arabia against the Hufis, which is in Yemen. There's a credible threat that the war in Ukraine

Starting point is 00:05:21 might merge with the war in Iran. Really? Yes, because what's happened a couple weeks ago is that a Iranian cargo ship that was transporting supplies from Russia to Iran through the Caspian Sea, it was hit by a Ukrainian drone.

Starting point is 00:05:37 And since then, the Ukrainians have apologized. But according to game theory, right now, the Ukrainians aren't doing so well in Ukraine. And right now Russia is finding a war of attrition. And because Russia is such a much bigger power than Ukraine, in the long term, Ukraine will ultimately lose this war. So to change that dynamic, what Zelensky wants to do is lower America into the war. And the best way he can do that is to combine the two fronts. So if Zelensky shows that Russia can supply Iran for the Kassian Sea, then America needs to stop this trade.

Starting point is 00:06:24 And Ukraine can help America by sending drones to attack Iranian shipping. So there's a real threat that these two fronts merge, in which case all bets are off, in which case it's World War III. and you can also see the possibility of systems collapse, civilization collapse as well. All of that from that. From that. The reason why is that area, Ukraine, the Middle East,

Starting point is 00:06:47 it's really the nexus or the heart of the global economy because that's where the world gets. But Ukraine and the Middle East are pretty far from each other. Can you even show me on this globe, actually? How far away from each other are they? Right, right, right. So this is really interesting. Okay, so this is Iran.

Starting point is 00:07:00 And you can move that close. Okay, sure. Yeah. So what I want to show you is how far these fronts. Okay. So this war in Ukraine has been going on since 2022, right? It's been four years. And most of the funding is going on in eastern Ukraine, right?

Starting point is 00:07:15 Over here. And fortunately, the war has been limited to this front. Now, as of late February, Iran, this war in Iran has broken out. And what's been happening is that at first, the main conflict was over the threat of Homo. which is right here. But the problem is the entire Middle East depends on the Shirt of Hamosu for trade. So Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait,

Starting point is 00:07:47 what they do is they take their oil and then they transport it all the way for the Shred of Mlaka to East Asia and to India and Pakistan. So really the oil from the Middle East feeds the economies of Asia. You look at a place like Japan. It depends on three-quarters of its oil from over here.

Starting point is 00:08:12 Wow. In China depends on 40%. India, it's like 50% to 60%. In return, these places will send food over back to the Middle East as well as water because this place is a desert. They don't have their own food and water. But now, what people don't appreciate

Starting point is 00:08:31 is that there are lots of five, products of oil production. And one of these byproducts is fertilizer for food. And this fertilizer also transits food that shuffermose to Africa. And this fertilizer feeds their population. So imagine what happens if this entire air shuts down, right? You can have famine in Africa, and you can have agamac collapse in East Asia, which would then cause a domino effect where Africa breaks down, you have Civil War Revolution in Africa, then what happens? These migrants shift over to Europe. We've already seen that last week when you have this 50,000, essentially invasion. In Morocco? Spain? That's right. A place is called CO2, Spain. Right. And that's a small part of Spain

Starting point is 00:09:23 that's actually connected to Morocco, right? That's right. We can see how volatile the situation is. Wow. So it's really a domino effect. Right. Now, Ukraine, is very important because Ukraine and Russia together supplies the world with one third of its carbohydrates. So Ukraine... Ukraine and Russia together supply the world with a third of their carbohydrates? So yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:48 Is that what you're saying? So what I'm saying is a third of the world's carbohydrates comes from Ukraine and Russia together. Wow. Is that true? Yeah. So Ukraine is considered a red basket of Europe. Wow. The claim is not accurate if it means that one-third of all carbohydrates eaten or produced globally come from Russia and Ukraine.

Starting point is 00:10:08 And more accurate version is Russia and Ukraine have supplied roughly 12% of internationally traded food calories in a very large share of specific grain export markets. About 28 to 30% of globally traded wheat. So there is a huge amount of food calories that comes out of there. That's right. So that is true. That's right. Yeah. Okay. So thanks so much for fact-checking me. But yeah, but you can appreciate how the world depends on food, fertilizer, and energy from this area. And so the great threat is that because Russia can supply Iran for the Caspian Sea, the war extends to the Northern Caucasus, which brings in Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan. And then if that would happen, you can see this entire area is now engulfed in war.

Starting point is 00:11:06 Another really critical thing that's been happening these past few weeks is that more and more nations are being brought into this war. Into which war? Into the one in the Middle East? In the Middle East. And the reason why is that for Iran to pressure the United States, what Iran can do is threaten the energy infrastructure of American allies in the United States. the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain.

Starting point is 00:11:34 What Iran can do is hold the energy infrastructure of Middle East hostage. Imagine Saudi Arabia as just this huge oil field. Okay. Right? And it's great in a time of peace because you can take this huge oil field and sell it to Japan, China, South Korea, India. But the problem is that a huge oil field means it's a lake of gasoline. So all to do is take a match, light it on fire, and then it's been,

Starting point is 00:11:59 everything blows up. And Iran can do that with its drone and ballistic missile capabilities. And so Iran is always threatening this. The other issue is that Iran has proxies, meaning allies in the Middle East. And there are three major allies. The first are people called the Houthis,

Starting point is 00:12:19 who are these religious fanatic people who live in mountains. And they occupy a very strategic area called the Bell-L. Maldab Strait. Ba'El Mnab Strait? Yes. So here's the Strait of Humus, yes?

Starting point is 00:12:34 Yes. This is the Bail Mandad Strait. And as you can see, these are the two most critical maritime choke points in the Middle East. Wow. And the problem is that the Houthis are lived in mountains. So it's almost impossible to dislodge them. And because so much of maritime shipping requires insurance, any threat of destruction

Starting point is 00:12:59 means that the insurance companies don't want to insure these ships and that puts a halt on global trade. So the real fear is that Saudi Arabia will launch a ground invasion to dislodge the Houthis and control this choke point, okay?

Starting point is 00:13:17 So you can imagine a massive alliance being formed to go against the Houthis. Another major proxy is called Hespala, which is in Lebanon. And these past few weeks, Israel has been trying to attack Hezbollah. And there's a real threat that this era, Lebanon, breaks out into total war. And right now what Israel is trying to do is assemble an alliance to destroy Hezbollah.

Starting point is 00:13:47 And this alliance includes Israel, but it also includes Syria and also includes the Lebanese army. And Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran. So Iran, if it sees Hezbollah under threat, then Iran would extend the war in order to help out Hezbollah. But why would the Lebanese army support Israel? Hasn't there been issues between Israel and Lebanon recently? Right. So... Like, hasn't there been attacks in Lebanon from Israel?

Starting point is 00:14:21 Right. So Israel is attacking Lebanon because it sees Hesbila as a threat. Because Hesbala can launch rocket attacks against Israel. And Lebanon can threaten, sorry, Hesbola can threaten the Suez Canal. Because Israel has been attacking Lebanon, right? That's right. Okay, great. That's right.

Starting point is 00:14:40 So Hesbala is not part of the Lebanese government. Got it. And so imagine there are different Cetarian groups in Lebanon. And they shear power together. And one of these groups is Hezbollah. And Hezbollah is aligned with Iran, and they are committed to protecting themselves from Israel. And Israel sees them as a bunch of terrorists that need to be removed. And so Hezbollah, the problem of Hezbollah is extremely popular in Lebanon among the Lebanese people,

Starting point is 00:15:14 because unlike the Lebanese government, they're not corrupt, and they provide good services to the people. Understood. So, yes, sometimes we hear about these groups. You hear about Hamas. You hear about Hasbalah. Yes. But the people there in some of these countries actually prefer some of these groups or actually do support some of these groups because they're kind of an outlier government that's more supportive to the people than the actual government. That's right. So they're popular because they are able to provide basic community services to the local population. And unfortunately, these governments in the Middle East, a lot of them have proved to be very corrupt, and a lot of their leaders seem to be sympathetic towards Israeli interests. And people suspect that they've been blackmailed by Mossad,

Starting point is 00:16:03 because Mossad's very good at that. Yeah. Yeah. What kind of blackmail could Mossad be doing, do you feel like in these spaces? Like, you talk about blackmail, and you hear about blackmail a lot. You hear about masad. You hear about blackmail in America, lot, like with the Epstein files in different places holding things potentially over like

Starting point is 00:16:21 American politicians' heads. So I think that rather than use the word blackmail, I think we can use the word influence. How are they able to have so much influence in the area? Well, I mean, the easiest way is become friends with these people, right? So let's just say you're leader of Lebanon. Well, you have children. Don't you want your children to go the best schools? don't you want your children to get good jobs,

Starting point is 00:16:46 maybe working for like Goldman Sachs, maybe working for a university as a professor? Well, we can help you because we're all these friends in the United States and we can arrange visas for your kids to go study at elite universities. We can ensure that they get good jobs, right? Right. I mean, it's that simple.

Starting point is 00:17:06 Right. It's that simple. Let's just be friends. Right. Right. And so if you're a leader of a place like Lebanon, And the entire place is rife with sectarian violence. There's not much you can do.

Starting point is 00:17:17 The entire place is rife with what? Sectarian violence. Sectarian violence. Sectarian violence? So let me say what? Sectarian. Okay. Sectarian violence.

Starting point is 00:17:28 S-C-T-A-R-A-N. And sectarian violence is physical conflict and harm between different religious or political groups within a community or nation. There's a lot of that in Lebanon? Yeah, because you have a lot of different religious groups in Lebanon. Okay. You have the Christians, you have the Muslims, and then they're also broken up in different groups.

Starting point is 00:17:48 And they're also like these tribal loyalties throughout the Middle East. So if you're a leader of Lebanon or Iraq or any place in the Middle East, you're dealing with a very volatile political situation. And do you really want to deal with these people, or would you rather use your position to ensure that your children have a better future? right to help out your relatives to help your friends and that's why they go into these political

Starting point is 00:18:17 positions so and that's the main way that the ones saw is able to exert influence over the Middle East because they can help these leaders send their money and their children to a safe place in Europe or the United States and and that is just

Starting point is 00:18:36 being friendly yeah that's human survival too it's like where you want to survive you want to be well enough to take care of yourselves. That's right. So it's not always like a level of blackmail that's violence. It's sometimes it's a level of,

Starting point is 00:18:48 it's a level of assistance. That's right. I'm just helping you out. We're helping each other out, right? I help out your children and you help me kill people who are doing nasty things like Hezbollah. We both hate Hezbollah

Starting point is 00:19:02 because they're terrorists. So we're, and we're just like rubbing each other's back. Yeah. You mentioned the straight of Hormuz a few minutes ago. Yes. Why is that place so important? Yeah. So that place...

Starting point is 00:19:15 Because you hear it all the time. Can you explain it kind of in basic terms and why it's so important? Right. Okay. The Shivu Mus is the linchpin of the Middle East economy. Because like if we just look at this globe, okay? There are certain countries that are within the Persian Gulf, right? Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, basically Dubai.

Starting point is 00:19:38 Now, it's important because there's only one way for them to transport their oil. Okay, got it. Right. Okay. Do you see how there's only one passageway? It's like a one-way street. Got it. Right?

Starting point is 00:19:55 So they're going to take their oil and then transport it to East Asia. And then what they get in return is water and food. because it's a desert. They can't grow their own food. Got it. They don't have their own water. Okay. Okay.

Starting point is 00:20:14 So that is crucial to their survival. If that were to be eliminated, like suddenly close off, then UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, all these places would be dead in the water. Recently, Trump had spoken up, I think it was even just the other day where he said, he said that Iran will be hit very hard. You know, he's always like, we're going to hit it, you know, we're going to hit him in the, you know. in the fucking head nuts or whatever, we're going to fucking hit him in the, you know, the mittens they wear on their head. He's always doing something.

Starting point is 00:20:44 But it's like, he said they're going to be hit very hard. If the Strait of Hormuz doesn't open very soon. Yes. How is Iran like controlling that effectively right now for themselves, right? Yes. And how successful are they being with their management of the Strait of Hormuz right now? Yes. Okay.

Starting point is 00:20:59 So to answer this question, I have to explain a concept to you called the escalation ladder. Okay. Okay. So what is the escalation ladder? It's a very simple idea, which is, in a fight, emotions create momentum. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:15 Okay. So, for example, let's just say you and I, we have a fight. I tell a joke, you think it sucks. I get pissed off of you, so I punch you, right? So then you punch me back. And I'm like, okay, then I take out a knife, and I stab you. Then you take a knife, and then you stab me. And I take a gun, I shoot you, take out of the gun, then you shoot me.

Starting point is 00:21:35 that I take out of that bazooka that I hit you. Okay. So you can see how it's a ladder and how emotions create momentum, but there's a logic to the escalation. Okay? So understanding the escalation ladder now, I'll explain to you how the war in Iran has been escalating. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:53 And how it should continue to escalate if the war continues. So this is an escalation ladder. You're showing involving Iran and the Strait of Hormuz. Yeah, so this is the United States and this Iran, okay? Okay. So we start the war with the United States using something called a decapitation strategy, meaning that if, what the United States believes that, if I take out your leader, now you're leaderless, and therefore you must surrender to me.

Starting point is 00:22:21 So in the first day, February 28th, they killed the Atatollah Kameh, the Supreme Leader of Iran. The Ayatollah Khamenei, yeah. That's right. And they killed also a lot of senior leadership. And this is what we call a decapitation strike. And the assumption is that if you have to deal the leader, then Iran would break out into civil war and they'd surrender to you.

Starting point is 00:22:44 And that's exactly what happened in Venezuela a few months back, right? So this is what we're called a decapitation strike. When they got Maduro. That's right. Yeah. And he was in jail with six and nine, which is crazy. Okay, yes. But it didn't happen here.

Starting point is 00:22:58 But it didn't happen here, okay? So that's a first strike, okay? So they tried it in Iran. They tried the decapitation strategy. Yes. But it didn't break out in civil war. That's right. That's right.

Starting point is 00:23:06 So now what the Iran does is it strikes back by closing off the Strait of Hamos. Right? But that's because they made a new Ayatollah who took over. Who was that? The son. The son. Right. So Kamenei's son.

Starting point is 00:23:20 That's right. They replaced the Ayatollah Kamenei with the Adetovinae with the Adetva Kamenei. Okay. Yeah. And then what Iran did, the first thing they did was close up, the first thing they did was close up the threat of Moos. They start to attack America's allies in. the Middle East, including Qatar, Dubai, Bahrain, Kuwait. America did?

Starting point is 00:23:41 No, Iran did. Okay, so take me back a step. Okay, all right. So the United States does a decapitation strike. Got it. And then Iran punches back. How? By putting pressure on America's allies, right?

Starting point is 00:23:57 They attacked Israel. They attacked Dubai. They attacked Qatar. The reason why they did that was the third. theory that these places give a lot of money to the United States. They invests a lot in the U.S. economy. So therefore, they have a lot of leverage over the United States. If they're being attacked, they would pressure Trump to end the war.

Starting point is 00:24:20 Okay? And so once Iran did that, then that forces the United States to basically have a ceasefire. Because if the war continues, then what would happen is, The entire world would lose at least 20% of the global oil supply. And this could possibly create economic collapse. So you're saying America had to take a break then and rethink about what's going on? Yeah, because the first strategy didn't work. Got it.

Starting point is 00:24:50 And the United States didn't have a second strategy. And the straight-of-who moves is closed at this point? They closed it? The straight-of-who moves is... At this point, in the latter. Okay. So throughout this entire process, there's been a lot on... on and off. So sometimes it's open, sometimes it's closed. Okay. So now what the American response

Starting point is 00:25:11 is now to put more pressure on Iran by trying to strangle the economy. Okay. So how the United States does that is Iran ships 90% of its oil to China. Right. So what America did was impose a naval blockade in the Arabian Sea to prevent Chinese tankers from reaching Iran and prevent Iranian tankers from reaching China. So they wanted to stop the flow of oil from Iran to China? That's right. And that's how China gets most of its oil. Well, well, no, that's, China gets its oil from a diverse, from many different countries.

Starting point is 00:25:53 But Iran will export 90% of its oil to China. And the theory is that if you stop that trade, then Iran cannot pay. hey, it's soldiers, then the soldiers would rebel. Got it. The government would collapse, okay? So that's the second step. Okay, I tried the capitalization strike. Didn't work, so now I was trying to strangle your economy.

Starting point is 00:26:10 Got it. And that doesn't work either, right? And so what happens now is that... Why didn't that work? Because the Iranians have been intersections for the past 30 years. So they are used to being poor. Ah. Right?

Starting point is 00:26:27 Right. So in Los Angeles, if, you know, we made gas $10 a day, well, there'll be riots. But in Iran, you know, if you take away half their calories, well, they're used to being poor. So they're used to the sanctions. They're used to living with a government that's like manipulating them and taking advantage of them. That's right. That's right. So therefore, the Iranians are much more able to bear pain than the American, right?

Starting point is 00:26:56 And so the American government now under Trump is under a lot more pressure and there's war than the Iranians. Understood. Okay. So that's a second step. And that doesn't work either. So now you move to a third step, which is you destroy the state's capacity

Starting point is 00:27:12 to deliver basic services, which means water, food, and electricity. So when Trump says, I will destroy their civilization, what he's really saying is, I will destroy their power plants. Right? Because energy is a source

Starting point is 00:27:26 civilization, right? So the next step that we can expect, which has not happened yet, but there are signs that it will happen is the United States will target its missiles at Iranian power plants and deny electricity to the local population. And the theory is that if you do that, that people will not be able to bear the pain and they will revolt. Revolt, exactly. Wow. Yeah. So that's, man, foo, that's a lot going on. And you believe that that's where we could be headed there? We are very much heading in that direction, okay? So now what the Iranians do in response is they activate their proxies, okay?

Starting point is 00:28:04 Why? Because the proxies are now able to exert a lot more pain on the global economy, right? So the Iranians are able to close off the Stryphoos. And their proxies, who are? They say who their proxies are? Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, and then you have the militias, the Shia militias in Iraq. Okay. Right. So the logic of this is by closing off the shrivalu moves, Iran is denying the world, the world 20% of the global supply of oil. But now if the hoofies are able to close off the back El-Mandat straight, then that's another 7%. So that's putting more pressure on the global economy. And now if Lebanon is able to close off the Suez Canal or put pressure on trade.

Starting point is 00:28:53 over here, that's even more pressure, right? That's a lot. Yeah, but as we can see, this escalation ladder is coming up really fast. Right. Right. And the real fear is that the Americans will be under so much pressure that they use tactical nuclear weapons against Iran. And then we could be looking at nuclear war and civilizational collapse.

Starting point is 00:29:21 And that's World War for sure. No, it's end of Cililization for sure. Oh. Yeah. Professor Zhang, what are we going to do? Doble and God? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:32 We're good then. That's a good point. Yeah. All right, yeah. All right. I'll see you on the other side. See you in the big age. That's right.

Starting point is 00:29:40 Dude, I heard that if you go to heaven, this is something I heard that's kind of cool just to take a break from the war stuff for a second. If you go to heaven, and thank you for explaining this and thank you for discussing the escalation ladder with us. Yes.

Starting point is 00:29:51 If you go to heaven that when you get there, your friends are there. Yeah. Right? All your friends that you knew from here and your family. But they all like work in different places. So you might go to like a Jersey Mikes in heaven and your brother or your ex-girlfriend could be working there. And once you lock eyes with each other, you have memories of like things that you knew

Starting point is 00:30:12 from this period here. Yeah. But it's brand new there. So it's like you get to go everywhere and find your old friends and stuff. So it'd be pretty cool. Like you could be. somewhere in like Frederick Douglas or whatever could be a park ranger or she's in ping or something could be he could be working at an ice cream stand you know yeah so it

Starting point is 00:30:30 could be kind of cool anyway it sounds pretty cool yeah so just letting you in on a little bit of a BTS heaven lore great um it would be impractical for America to end up in a nuclear war though yeah I don't think it will happen okay yeah so you don't think that will happen no what stops that escalation ladder from going forward yeah Okay. So again, we want to use game theory and step back and ask ourselves why this war is happening. Okay. Okay?

Starting point is 00:30:58 Because once you figure out what the motivations or the players are, then you can figure out how far this goes, right? Because the players are trying to win and they're going to try to win in a way that it's at least harmful or the easiest way to win, if that makes sense. Yeah, it does because it's kind of like poker. So say if I got an okay hand, I might bluff a little in the beginning or go in or go in or on a few blinds or something, but I'm not going to probably raise it to the end of the line because I know what I have. Right. I'm going to wait for another hand.

Starting point is 00:31:29 Right. So let's look at game theory and ask yourself, who are the major players in this game and what do they want? Okay. So you have the United States, of course. You have Iran. You have Israel. And I would say the fourth major country is Saudi Arabia. Okay.

Starting point is 00:31:43 And why are we even in this conflict? That's right. So we're trying to figure this out. Because that's been a big question in America, especially amongst a lot of my peers. why are we there? Why are we putting our troops there? It doesn't seem like we have a real interest. I know there's the rumors of weapons of mass destruction again.

Starting point is 00:32:00 There's rumors of nuclear weapons held by Iran. But I think people, a lot of people feel like we've fallen for that trap before in Iraq. Yes. And in Kuwait. And that it could just be the same sort of fools errand again. Yeah, exactly. So it's a great question. Like, why did America attack Iran after the failures of Afghanistan and Iraq?

Starting point is 00:32:30 Well, and also Trump, our president, said that we would not go to war with Iran. That's right. That's right. So what do you think is happening? Yeah. So I want to refer you to you to something called a clean break memo, okay? Clean break memo? Yes.

Starting point is 00:32:43 It's really important we understand this. If we ought to understand what's going on, the clean brick memo. Maybe your producer can bring it up, the clean brick memo written in 1996, okay? Okay. And so let me give you some background. So Bill Clinton is in office, and Bill Clinton is obsessed with peace in the Middle East. Because it rhymes, probably. Probably, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:33:05 And the Israelis have decided that now is a good time for a two-state solution. And the reason why is that throughout its history, Israel was always in conflict with the other Arab nations around it because of the Palestinian issue. Right. And the idea is that if Israel is to have security, it needs to resolve the Palestinian issue. It needs to give the Palestinians its own state. And then once that happens,

Starting point is 00:33:35 then the Arab nations can resume diplomatic relations with Israel. They can trade peacefully, and then the Middle East will be prosperous and peaceful. Right. But you first have to resolve the Palestinian issue. Because a lot of the Palestinians were Muslim, right? That's right. And a lot of the surrounding areas are also Muslim.

Starting point is 00:33:53 Around Israel are also Muslim. That's right. So they're sympathetic towards the... Their kind. Muslims, right? So, for example, Saudi Arabia, the world family said that as long as a past national issue is not resolved, we will never ever have peace with Israel. Okay. So this is what we call the Oslo peace process.

Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah, the Oslo Accords, right? That's right. That's right. And the majority of the Israeli population was in favor of this. And the major leader who is spearheading this movement in Israel is Ixak Rabin. What's the name? Isaac Rabin. I'll spell it for you, okay?

Starting point is 00:34:30 Isaac, Isaac. Isaac Rabin. Isaac Rabin. Yitzak Rabin. Yes, okay. Yitzak Rabin. And he was determined to have eternal peace with the Pasinians. So resolve this issue once and for all by giving them a state.

Starting point is 00:34:48 Okay? So he and Clinton were aligned with figuring this out. That's right. And they also had Arafat to help them out as well. And the Arab nations, especially Saudi Arabia, were very supportive of all of this process. But there was one person who was opposed to the peace process. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu.

Starting point is 00:35:09 And he assembled a team of people, mainly Americans who developed a new policy for him called the Clean Break Memo. Okay. And what the Clean Brick Memo says, it's a very short document. It's only about a one page. What it says is screw peace because our neighbors are Arabs, and they only understand power.

Starting point is 00:35:34 So you want peace. You don't negotiate. You don't compromise. You hit them hard. You keep on hitting them hard until they respect you. Okay? So there are three major pillars to this strategy called the Clean Brick. The first is go out the pastime is hard.

Starting point is 00:35:54 Don't give them land. Don't compromise them. Teach them to respect you. Okay? Show power. Make them afraid of you. Okay. That's number one.

Starting point is 00:36:02 Number two is you have to rejuvenate the Israeli economy by adopting neoliberalism. Forget socialism. Let's go with capitalism. Because at this time, socialism was very popular in Israel. And the third thing is to establish balance of power in the Middle East. Balance of power in the Middle East. And the way you do that is you destroy regimes that could potentially threaten you. This includes Syria and this includes Iraq.

Starting point is 00:36:40 And so the strategy calls for working with Turkey and Jordan to destabilize Syria. and it calls for regime change in Iraq. Okay. It's called a clean break memo. Okay, a clean break, a new strategy for securing the realm, commonly known as a clean break report, is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Pearl

Starting point is 00:37:01 for Benjamin Netanyahu, then prime minister of Israel. The report explained a new approach to solving Israel's security problems in the Middle East with an emphasis on Western values, which that means, I guess, more of like a capitalistic balance. That's right. That's right. It has since been criticized, for advocating a policy of removing Saddam Hussein

Starting point is 00:37:18 from power in Iraq and the containment of Syria by engaging in proxy warfare and highlighting its possession of weapons of mass destruction. Certain parts of the policies set forth in the paper were rejected by Netanyahu. However, the report was ultimately adopted and serves as a foundation for modern day

Starting point is 00:37:33 Israeli global affairs. Is that true? Well, yeah. So something really important for us to appreciate is the study group, there were two major participants in the study group, Richard Pearl, and also Douglas Fave, okay? Okay, got it. Right.

Starting point is 00:37:52 And this is important because these two are Americans, and a few years later, they will work for the Pentagon. And Douglas Feefe and Richard Pearl worked with Paul Wolfowitz, and these three were become the architects of the Iraq War. Paul Wolfowitz? Yes. Okay. So you're saying two of the people that came up with the Clean Break memo,

Starting point is 00:38:13 yes. Then went on to work for the Pentagon. Yes. And they're the architects of the Iraq War. Okay, so they were architects of the Iraq War. Here we go, Douglas J. Faith, an American lawyer who served as Secretary of Defense for policy. Faith has been described as an architect of the Iraq war. In the lead-up to the war, he played a key role in promoting the false claim that the Saddam Hussein regime had an operational relationship with al-Qaeda. A Pentagon inspector general report found that Faith's office had developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligent assessments on the Iraq. and al-Qaeda relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the intelligence community to senior decision makers. The other thing about Douglas Five is he has been suspected for a long time of being an Israeli asset. Okay.

Starting point is 00:39:07 But despite that, he was still able to climb the hierarchy, which is very weird. because the FBI and the CIA determined in 1970s that he could possibly be an Israeli asset. Wow, so that's interesting that he would be, that they thought that, and then he was still able to climb the ranks. Very interesting. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. Yeah. But not only him, but Richard Pearl was also suspected of being an Israeli asset. Richard Norman Pearl is an American political advisor who served as the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Global Strategic Affairs under Ronald Reagan. Pearl was an architect of the Iraq War.

Starting point is 00:39:40 Yeah. He claimed that Saddam Hussein regime possessed weapons of mass destruction. Okay. So we need to understand what the clean break memory really is. Okay. And what it really is is a blueprint for the Greater Israel Project. And the Greater Israel Project is a belief among certain Zionists that the entire Middle East belongs to Israel. And just to be clear, this isn't Jewish people.

Starting point is 00:40:10 we're talking about the Israeli government and extremist views, right? That's right. It's not necessarily a Jewish person. Zionist is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel. Okay, so Zionist is someone who believes in supremacy of Israel? Look it up, Nick. Because I hear the term, we might have talked about it before. We've probably talked about it before some, but I don't know if you've ever looked it up. Zionism is an ethnocultural nationalist movement that emerged in late 19th century Europe to establish and support a Jewish homeland. What does ethnocultural nationalist mean, Nick?

Starting point is 00:40:44 Can you click on that? Ethnocultural, ethnic nationalism is a form of nationalism in which the nation and nationality are defined in terms of ethnicity. Yeah, what does that mean, ethnocultural nationalism? What it really means is

Starting point is 00:41:04 there are certain people, Zionists, who believe that, God promise this land to the Jews and only the Jews. And therefore, only the Jews should be in this land. And therefore, the Pasadians have no right to be there. Therefore, to say, solution goes against the will of God. Got it. That's what it really means.

Starting point is 00:41:24 Okay, wow. But what about people who just believe that Jewish people deserve to have their own place as well? Is that Zionism? So there are different forms of Zionism. Okay. And what I'm referring to in extreme form of Zionism that has taken hold over Israel. Okay. Because remember, in the 1990s, everyone, the majority of people were supportive of a two-state solution.

Starting point is 00:41:47 They wanted peace with the Arabs. In 1990s, is that true? Let's bring that up. Let me see. In the 1990s, the Israeli public was deeply divided rather than in full agreement regarding a two-state solution, while the signing of the Azo Accords in 93 generated strong initial hope and fluctuating majority support for the peace process at various points. substantial portions of the population, including right-wing political factions, and the settler movement, opposed partitioning the land. So there was some support for it. Okay. Okay. So you have this extreme,

Starting point is 00:42:21 so you have an extreme group. Yeah, the settlers, basically. Okay. So the group you're talking about is an extreme group that wanted that, that's supporting this clean break. That's right. Right? That was, that wanted a greater Israel. That's right. That's an extreme group. That's right. And it was led by Dan Yahu. He became prime minister in 96 to implement the greater issue project. It's been power for the past 20 years. And if you look at what's been happening in the Middle East, right, the Iraq war.

Starting point is 00:42:49 And then after that, the invasion and regime change in Libya, in Syria, and now this attack against Iran, it is consistent with a clean break memo. Got it. And what is amazing is that this transcends politics. Both the Democrats and Republicans are participating in the implementation of the Clean Brick memo. You mean American Democrats and American Republicans are? That's right. That's right. So it was George W. Bush, which launched a war against Iraq, but it was Obama who supported regime change in Syria and in Libya, which is also part of the Clean Break memo. What I want to do now is show you a video.

Starting point is 00:43:31 This is important to watch this video together. Okay. And so the video is General Wesley Clark, and he's talking to Amy Goodman. This is after 9-11. And so 9-11 was a traumatic event for Americans, and the assumption was that the U.S. military would take vengeance against the Taliban and al-Qaeda by attacking Afghanistan. But what Wesley Clark says is no, no, no. We're not only going, we're not just going after, we're going after seven countries.

Starting point is 00:44:06 And let's listen to what he says. So, and so this is a, but this, how do we know this isn't a, is this a theory, or is this a facts? That's what I'm wondering. Oh, it's all facts. The Cleveland Bank memo is a fact. And Wesley Clark saying this to Amy Goodman,

Starting point is 00:44:21 I mean, it's on YouTube. Okay, and this is U.S. Army General Wesley Clark, right? That's right. Okay. He's retired now. He's talking to Amygum about what happens after 9-11. Okay. About 10 days after 9-11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary of Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me. And one of the generals called me and he said, sir, you got to come in. You got to come in and talk to me a second. I said, well, you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq.

Starting point is 00:44:55 This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, we're going to war with Iraq. Why? He said, I don't know. He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way.

Starting point is 00:45:17 They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only two you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan, I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?

Starting point is 00:45:42 And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper. He said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.

Starting point is 00:46:06 I said, is it classified? He said, yes, sir. I said, well, don't show it to me. So you're saying that this is part of the clean break memo. That's right. That's right. Because how else can you explain what's going on? And again, this is General Wesley Clark has access to confidential

Starting point is 00:46:23 Pentagon formation. He's saying that right after 9-11, they've already decided to go to war against the entire Middle East, finishing with Iran. And did we end up doing those things right there? Yes, we did. Well, not me. Not us. Yeah. Yeah, no, not us. Yeah, I wouldn't involve. I'm chill, yeah. I definitely, yeah. I mean, I have issues with my neighbor sometimes because of their dog or whatever, but. Yeah. Wasn't me, man. Yeah. So, but we've gone, but have we done those things that they said in that video, that have we attacked, have we gone to war with those places? Yeah. What was the places he listed? So, um, Syria, right? That's done. Um, Libya. Um, Iraq. Um, was it Somalia, one of them? Yeah. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan,

Starting point is 00:47:18 in Iran. So Iran's the last on the list. It says, it's final boss. boss. That's right. Wow. Yeah. A final boss. Oh, that's the Mike Tyson right there. Yeah. So, but why, why do you feel like, so you feel like America's working at the behest of the Israeli government of Netanyahu's choices? Well, like, what do you think that relationship is there? Well, it seems. Yeah, because if this is true, then it would, then it would say that that America's working at the behest of, of Netanyahu and some of these other people who, this is what they want, right? Or is this what we want? Yeah. So, again, there's a pattern here, right?

Starting point is 00:48:00 So I'm not trying to make a judgment. All I'm trying to do is point out a pattern that's emerging. Where in 96, they write the clean break memo encouraging Nanyahu to choose a path of war and dominance in the Middle East and to clean break away from the Oslo peace process. And that's exactly what he's been doing for the past 20. 20 years. Then these people, specifically Richard Pearl and Dennis Fife, they go work for the Pentagon and they help implement a lot of the Klingebank member policies by starting a war against Iraq

Starting point is 00:48:37 for no particular reason. And then for no particular reason, what happens to Americans attack Libya, Syria, destabilized the regime, cost millions of refugees to flow into Europe. And now we have this war in Iran, and we don't even know why Trump attacked Iran, And you point this out, like, he never, he's been saying for a long time that he would not do so. Yeah. So what's going on here? Right.

Starting point is 00:49:01 Like, if the United States was not doing this at the behest of Israel, then how will we explain what's going on? Right. Right. Now, what I'll do now is use game theory to explain why Israel would want this. Okay. Right? Because, so this is, this, this, this, this would be hard for Americans to understand, all right? For Americans to understand?

Starting point is 00:49:20 Okay. But, like, Wesley Clark says, we need to remove. seven nations in five years. And they're doing that, right? Iran is the final boss. And the idea is there are Zionists who want to achieve the greater Israel project. And the idea of the great Israel project

Starting point is 00:49:36 is that Israel will dominate the Middle East. And only if Israel does that will Jews have security in the Middle East. Okay. Now, weren't they secure before? Like, I don't understand why they weren't secure. Right. So they weren't secure because the Palestinians were in revolt against them.

Starting point is 00:49:59 The Palestinians felt that they were being oppressed, that their land was stolen from them. And so they were engaging in terrorist activities against the Israelis, including bus bombings, including airplane hijackings. But why wouldn't Israel just figure that out instead of go this other big route? It seems like, you know what I'm saying? It seems like if it's me figuring out something with a neighbor, as opposed to battling the whole town, it would seem like more at my behest like a wiser choice to just figure out something with my neighbor.

Starting point is 00:50:28 Right, because you have a brother who's kind of crazy and your brother believes that this house is not their house, it's our house. Okay. Which was stolen by this other family. And so we have a right to go

Starting point is 00:50:41 take it back from them. Okay. And there's something you can do about your crazy brother. Basically, yes. Okay, got it. Right? And these are people

Starting point is 00:50:51 what we call the settlers, right? Okay. These are people who go against Israeli national law and go and forcefully evict Palestinians from their homes. Even though this is against Israeli national law. Yeah. I know there's a lot of cases of that. You can see them on YouTube too of people getting evicted from their homes for no reason. People taking people's land.

Starting point is 00:51:12 A lot of heartbreaking stuff out there. Okay. So now you're showing me, what is this you're looking at here? So let's just take what we know and draw things to the larger conclusion. So this is game theory. This is game theory, okay? If you believe that this land was given to you by God, and it says so it says so in the Bible, okay?

Starting point is 00:51:31 And you believe that Israel's destiny to dominate the Middle East. Your real enemy is not Iran, right? Who's your real enemy? The United States of America. Oh, the United States. Right? Because the United States provides security guarantees

Starting point is 00:51:48 to many Arab nations, Saudi Arabia, protected by the United States. And Saudi Arabia is part of the Greater Israel Project. Egypt is protected by the United States. Israel, Egypt is also part of the greater original project, right? So what you need to do is remove both Iran and the United States from the equation. And the best way to do that is to have them go to war against each other, right? And then Israel is the last nation standing. And then they achieved the greater Israel project. But this is game theory, by the way. This game theory.

Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah. But how would you, like, how would America, I mean, our country's way over here. And I know that's like, I know that doesn't mean everything, that we have this geographical space. But how would we, like, how would we be defeated in it? Well, we would be, like, the United States would be defeated if this war becomes so unpopular at home that the people revolt. and that forces the American military to retreat back to American borders. Okay. So then we would lose that war, but we wouldn't lose our country, though.

Starting point is 00:52:59 No, yeah. I mean, the United States wouldn't lose their country, but they would lose the empire. Yeah. Oh, so we would completely remove ourselves from the Middle East. You're saying remove ourselves from all of our allies, and then Israel would have the ability to control them. That's right. But why doesn't Israel just go control them and not even involve us?

Starting point is 00:53:17 because Saudi Arabia and the other nations at Middle East they have a lot of money and they invests $200 of dollars in the U.S. economy in exchange for U.S. protection. Got it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:53:33 Wow. Hmm. You know, one thing that has scared me and I've heard people, a lot of people talk about it was like a lot of like the technology and stuff that they, that was used in Palestine

Starting point is 00:53:45 like during a lot of the genocide over there. drones being used to kill people, being used to kill children. We had a doctor on who was talking about children getting shot just right down through their bodies, you know, like in a way that was like, it seemed very logical that drones were the ones that were doing it. All the reporters being killed there so that nobody could transfer any real information out of the world over there. One of those things, especially with the technology, and then you start to see the surveillance

Starting point is 00:54:14 stuff happening in America, it starts to make you think, well, why wouldn't that why wouldn't it come here like if you know like that's certainly a fear that I hear a lot is that um that we're going to become in this surveillance state and then the same thing it could happen to us over here if we're out of line with who with um if Israel to gain control of America and then we're out of line with something that they see or some behavior or um or they want to move people here off of their land you know it's it's that that's something that's very scary. Yeah, so if you look at Gaza, I think Gaza is the pilot for a civilian state.

Starting point is 00:54:53 You think it's a pilot for what? For surveillance state. Yeah, as a testing ground. That's a testing ground for a sovereign state. Because the theory is that once Israel achieves a greater racial project, it now needs to control this entire area. And there aren't that many Jews. So it needs surveillance technology in order to control the local population. What I think will happen, and this is going to shock a lot of people, is right now,

Starting point is 00:55:17 Now, Israel is very close with India. And India, the population is booming. And there's a lot of young people. And if you just let them stay in India, they're going to revolt against you because the economy's not doing so well. But so what if Israel and India were to get together and says, hey, let's bring in millions of Indians to work now in the Middle East

Starting point is 00:55:38 because war has to store the population on the Middle East. And now you can use servant technology to control these Indians. And the Indian people are used to like cast a society. anyway. So the idea that the Jews at the very top, right, and the Indians are a working class like doing the labor, and it's all been controlled by surveillance technology, well, you would achieve the greater issue project. Wow. And do you think that's what's going on? I think that's the direction we're moving towards. We're not that they will succeed. I can't really say, but I think that's the plan. But the people, certainly the people of Israel don't want to see all

Starting point is 00:56:16 that like, like, they don't want to see so many people get killed and that sort of stuff happen. You think they want to? I think Israel may be heading towards a civil war between two places. You have Tel Aviv, which is the gayest city in the world, very liberal, very cosmopolitan. You mean gays, like people being gay? Like, I mean, like, real gays. Like men that hug each other?

Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah, and women can hug each other too. Oh, yeah. Okay, I don't know if you're using it like hypotheticals. Like homosexuals, yes. Okay, yeah. Yeah, gays. Yeah. Yeah, just regular gays, yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, yeah. I didn't know if we were talking about different, you know, a different branch of gays or I don't know what was going on. Yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, just gays. Yeah, yeah. And they have Jerusalem, yeah, which is very conservative, very religious.

Starting point is 00:56:59 So these are two competing visions of Israel. And unfortunately, the people in Jerusalem are the ones with the power, and they are extreme in their religious vision, okay? Yeah, I just, well, I know they have an election coming up over there. That's right. They did, yes. And so that's, I just feel like, is that going to determine a lot? Because, like, I mean, I feel bad for a lot of my Jewish friends here who do not want to be associated.

Starting point is 00:57:26 Like, you know, it's heartbreaking to them. You know, my friend Michael's always talking to me. It's like, you know, to make sure to like, just because Israel doesn't mean Jewish people. It doesn't mean like it's the government. That's right. So I want to use your religion to show you how extreme these people are. Okay. Right.

Starting point is 00:57:41 So the Holocaust was a traumatic event and six million Jews died. Let me ask you this question. Why did the Holocaust happen? The Holocaust happened, I guess, because of an ideology that was created by Hitler and his regime. Yeah, it was Hitler's fault, right? Okay. So the extremist Jews are called capitalist, the cabalas. and they have an extreme vision of how the universe works.

Starting point is 00:58:15 And the deep, dark secret that they have about the Holocaust is the Jews deserved it. Okay, so let me explain why. If you read the Bible, the Bible, the Old Testament, basically, it's fundamentally about the relationship between God and the historician people, the Jews. And problems arise when the Jews, turn away from God. So, for example, when Moses was leading the people from exile in Egypt to the promised land, the people chose to worship an idol.

Starting point is 00:58:54 And the first commandment is do not worship false idols. So God had to punish them by making them wander the desert for 40 years. And this is a consistent theme throughout the Old Testament, where Jews suffer because they turn away from God. So the most traumatic event in the Bible is the destruction of the first temple, where the Babylonians come in and they destroy the first temple. Now, if you read the Bible, the book is Jeremiah. What Jeremiah, the prophet says is,

Starting point is 00:59:27 the Babylonians are not the enemy of God. They are the tool of God to punish the Israelites for turning away from. God. Okay. Right? So if you just extend the logic, then logic is this. Why did the Holocaust happen? Not because of Hitler, but because the Jews turn away from God. And so there's groups that believe that? That's right. So at this point in history, the year's 1900 when Zionism comes into being, most Jews think Zionism is retarded. I'm a Jewish person living in Germany, living in the United States, living in England, I've assimilated into society.

Starting point is 01:00:07 I'm a professor, I'm a doctor, I'm doing well for myself, I'm secular. I have lots of friends who are Christians. And what does secular mean? Secular means non-religious. Okay. Right?

Starting point is 01:00:18 So it's like, why would I go to a desert called Palestine? It's not even called Israel. It's called Palestine, where there's already people living there. And it's like literally a desert. Right? So only about three percent.

Starting point is 01:00:32 of the global Jewish population at this point in history, the years of 1900, I should support the idea of Zionism. Okay. Right? So the Holocaust had to happen in order to force the Jews to hold the covenant with God. Because the Jews were created as God's chosen people. They are the light of nations. They are meant to show true faith in God and therefore be

Starting point is 01:01:01 be virtuous and be the moral guidance for the world. Okay, so they were chosen to be an example of God. They're chosen to be the light of nations. They're chosen to be the best representatives of humanity. Okay. Yes. So you're saying that some devout Jewish people or religious or an extreme, this is an extreme group,

Starting point is 01:01:23 believe that the Holocaust was supposed to happen because the people in the Bible had turned away from, had turned away from God. Right. Is that what you're saying? Yes or no, you're saying. Okay, so let me clarify what they believe the mission of the Jewish people is. Okay.

Starting point is 01:01:41 The mission of the Jewish people is to return to Israel, create the greater Israel project, which is the promised land, and then built the third temple, which will be the house of God. Okay. So the purpose of history is to force a reunion between the Jewish people and God. And once that happens, then the world will end and we will be in paradise forever. So there must be three things must happen for this world to end. The first thing that must happen is the greater Israel project has to be achieved. And therefore, we have these wars in the Middle East.

Starting point is 01:02:26 But why would that have to be achieved? if that was something that was just developed 30 years ago? Because according to these people, the original covenant between the Jewish people and God is that God promised them the land stretching from the now in Egypt to Euphrates in Iraq as the covenant. And the Jewish people, once they receive this land,

Starting point is 01:02:50 they must be loyal to God. So for God to return, first of all, his promise must be kept. Okay. So the first thing is, the greater issue project must be achieved. Second thing that must happen

Starting point is 01:03:03 is all Jewish people must return to Israel and repent. Meaning, if you don't believe in God, you have to believe in God if you're Jewish. Meaning if you're homosexual, if you're Jewish,

Starting point is 01:03:18 better tighten it up. You better, you better, like, learn how, like, you know. You better figure it out. Yeah, you know. Dang. Yeah. That's going to be a long day. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:03:27 I started liking this, man. So that's a third, third thing. And the third thing is the third temple must be built because that's where God will live. Okay, got it. But the problem is the site of the third temple is now where the Alexic Mosque is. Now, Alexiq Mos is the third holiest site in the Muslim world.

Starting point is 01:03:50 So if they destroy the Alexic Mos in order to build a third temple, this would trigger a religious war between Jews and the Muslim world. Oh, wow. Yeah. So these are three things that must happen according to the eschatology. Okay. So, but you're not saying that's going to happen. You're just saying that that, if you look at that, that's according to what?

Starting point is 01:04:08 Is that according to? That's according to their eschatology, which is what they believe, how the world ends and how we achieve heaven on earth. But who believes that? Like, my Jewish friends, I don't think believe that. That's right. Wait, wait, wait, what's right? They do believe or they don't believe? They don't believe this.

Starting point is 01:04:24 Okay. This theory, okay, what I just told you. the vast majority of Jewish people who are religious think this is heresy. This is madness. It's insane. The problem is that this ideology is promoted by secret societies around the world.

Starting point is 01:04:42 And secret societies control the world. And that's why we're seeing a lot of things happen because how else can you explain why the United States is attacking Iran for no particular reason? I mean, it's definitely, look, I think a lot of people believe it's at the behest of Israel.

Starting point is 01:04:58 There's some involvement there. But I think, yeah, but after that, it's like, yeah, you kind of don't know why. A lot of it's just like questions. And you don't get a lot of information sometimes. Like, you know, you'll ask political figures and stuff, why are we so embedded here? And a lot of them don't have an answer. And so I think that's the part that seems kind of alarming. And I think that's also the part when you don't get a lot of clear information,

Starting point is 01:05:23 that's when a lot of, like, conspiracy theories, different ideas. uncertainties, ideas like this even start to take even more shape because you don't know. Yeah. You're not, and you're not getting information from people who should know. So I think it's like, I do understand how people can start to, yeah, it makes perfect sense how people can start to believe things and how people can start to look into things because there's no place to get real news anymore. There's no place to get the information. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of things that are happening right now just defy human.

Starting point is 01:05:57 logic. So everyone's looking at Donald Trump's like, the war is lost already. Just make peace with Iran. Just get out of there. And what Trump is doing is doing, he's doing tackle. Like one day, he's like, we're going to end your civilization. And the other day is like, let's make peace, guys. Let's just be friends. And the next day he's like, no, I'm going to nuke you now. And next day, he's like, oh, you know what? I didn't really mean that. It's just weird. Yeah. It feels bizarre. It feels pointless, but it matches with everything feels bizarre right now. And like, the way that Trump is behaving right now goes against his character. Because in the 80s and 90s, he was a real estate developer.

Starting point is 01:06:40 He was a business person, right? He understood, like, if you do business, you need to have credibility. You can't flip-flop because everyone will be scared of you. I agree. That's actually a really good point. I mean, even when he was running for office, it seemed like every other thing. It seems like he knows exactly what he's talking about. It seems like he knows exactly where he stands.

Starting point is 01:06:57 So it's just really weird situation where how the United States is behaving in the Middle East, it goes against American interests. And the way that Donald Trump is behaving, it goes against his character. He's never behaved like this before. You spoke a little bit ago about secret societies, right? Can you take me into some of that and how the, and you said that you believe that's some of what is controlling some of this? Secret societies rule the world. Okay.

Starting point is 01:07:25 So let me explain. Secret societies rule the world. Yes. Okay. So let me explain why that's a case. Okay. All right. So the power in the world is what we call transnational capital.

Starting point is 01:07:36 Right? And transnational capital, all it means is money that is able to move freely around the world and invest where it wants and extract profit from these places. And so transnational capital would include pension funds. It would include sovereign wealth funds. It would include private capital, such as like State Street, Vanguard, Wall Street of London. China has a huge sovereign wealth fund, doesn't it? That's right. That's right.

Starting point is 01:08:02 So, so transnational capital is a huge entity. And, you know, they say money makes the world go around, okay? So, Tri-Satural controls the world. So money controls the world, you're saying. Basically, okay? So, but the problem is that, um, Transcendant capital is a game. It's a gain?

Starting point is 01:08:28 It's a game. Game. Right? Because you're trying to maximize your profit. You're trying to beat others in a stock market. And in any game, there's a certain way to win. And the answer, and so, like, how do you win every single game? Like, remember what game you play?

Starting point is 01:08:44 What's the secret to winning every game? Get to the end. The answer is you cheat. Okay? You play by the rules. You work hard. and you play fear, you're a sucker, okay? To win the game, you have to cheat.

Starting point is 01:08:57 And the best way to cheat is to sickly conspire with others to rig the game in your favor. Okay, and that's where we have secret societies, right? Because to win the game of capital, you need three things. First of all, you need access to secret information. You need to know more things than other people know. Second thing you need is infiltration. You need your people to go in the government

Starting point is 01:09:20 in order to create policies that favor you. The third thing is you need coronation, conspiracy between these different groups in order to create an outcome that you want. Right? So an example is the Rothschild family. And the Rothschild family became one of the most powerful banking families in the world because they had a secret network of agents scattered throughout Europe. So in 1815, Napoleon fights a battle of Waterloo. and obviously he loses. And the Rothschild has an agent who witnessed the battle.

Starting point is 01:09:57 Then he sends this information to back to England on a Corvette, which is a fast ship. Then what happens is rumor spread that the English lost the war. And now there's tremendous fear. But that wasn't true. It was not true. They won. But the first rumor. The agent got there and spread a rumor.

Starting point is 01:10:17 Well, we don't know, okay? But there are rumors that they lost the war, which created a panic, and the Rothschild were able to make a lot of money doing that, okay? And that's, and like, this is very common. And so this shows you an example of how information is crucial if you want to win the game of transnational capital. Got it. Right?

Starting point is 01:10:36 So the Corvette got there, the fast ship got there, and knew in advance that... The Rothschilds knew in advance. The Rothschilds knew in advance. That the battle had been won. And three days later, official news came to the British public. Tell them that the battle happened won. But during these three days, there's mass panic

Starting point is 01:10:54 because rumors are spreading that the battle has been lost. I see, so the Rothschild was able to capitalize on that panic financially. That's right. And so that's when people started realizing, oh, we can do this. Right, right. And so think about the world that we live in today, right?

Starting point is 01:11:07 Where if you have like one minute of confidence information, you're able to make millions, billions, right? So the question is like, how do you access this information? Well, you do so for transnational networks. And throughout history, there have been three major transnational networks in Europe. The first is the Freemasons. The second are the Jesuits. And the third are the Jewish diaspora.

Starting point is 01:11:37 And at some point, they figured out, why don't we just work together? Oh. And what they call themselves? The Illuminati. Damn. Yeah. I heard about it. My black friends are always talking about them, man.

Starting point is 01:11:50 Yeah. The Illuminati. Dang. They got us. The Illuminati, and it is a name given to several groups, both real and fictitious. Historically, the name usually refers to the Bavarian Illuminati. An Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776, and the electorate of Bavaria. The Illumnii, along with Freemasonry and other secret societies were outlawed through Edict by Charles Theodore.

Starting point is 01:12:15 and the subsequent use, Illuminati has been used when referring to various organizations alleged to be a continuation of the original Illuminati. These organizations have often been accused of conspiring to control world affairs by masterminding events

Starting point is 01:12:29 and planting agents in governments and corporations in order to gain political power, influence, and establish a new world order. Dun, dun, dun. I mean, at the end of the day, if Trenchinawarkabwe controls the world, you need to decide just to win the game.

Starting point is 01:12:44 Got it. So there's, so in addition to there being countries, there's these different countries. They're above countries. But they're above countries. Right. Wow. And so they'll have members of different countries that are part of them. So think of Jeffrey Epstein, right?

Starting point is 01:12:55 So everyone thought that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad agent. He was above Mossad. Wow. Dang. Yeah. Do you believe that Jeffrey Epstein is still alive? I don't think he's alive. Yeah, because...

Starting point is 01:13:08 Do you think he died in the jail cell? Yes. Yes. Yes, because he's expandable. Yeah. What is the basic code do you think of the Illuminati? Do you think they have a code? That's a great question, okay?

Starting point is 01:13:22 So when you have these secret societies? We have to remember, like, secret societies are just a natural outcome of the game of transnational capital. So you have, like, many different secret societies in place. And so which societies have the greatest advantage? And the answer is those who practice eschatology have the greatest advantage.

Starting point is 01:13:44 Eschatology? Right. Eschatology is the belief in that God will end the world at some point. Okay? And so why are you, so why is it that eschatological societies are superior to other sick societies? And the reason why is they're able to channel the religious energy of millions of people. So look at, so why? So why we're having this war in the Middle East,

Starting point is 01:14:15 it's not just secret societies. It's also the fact that you have tens of millions of Christian Zionists, Christian evangelicals who support Israel, right? So if you're an investor, there are three ways to make the most money. The first is war. Second is revolution.

Starting point is 01:14:35 The third is religion. So these societies, for the eschatology, you're always supporting war, revolution, and religion. Because if you're a millionaire, well, you invest your money in the stock market. But if you're a trillionaire, you invest your money in war, revolution, and religion. Wow. But don't you, do you think that sometimes it's kind of a doubt, like, is it like, if you think of it all like that, right, doesn't it feel pretty dark?

Starting point is 01:15:06 It is dark. But once you actually study the eschatology, once you study the religion, it actually gives you hope. Because what motivates these people is not greed. It's not power. It's faith. They're accelerationalists.

Starting point is 01:15:27 They believe that God has a divine plan. And all I'm doing is helping God accelerate this plan. Wow. Oh my gosh, dude. what the heck. So that's part of some people's faith. They believe they have a strong enough faith that they believe that what they're doing

Starting point is 01:15:45 is helping to accelerate it. That's right. Oh my gosh. I don't even know what to think anymore. And that's why things are happening so fast. Dude, it does. It does, yeah. It feels like things are happening so fast.

Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah. It's just like, what is happening so fast? Yeah. So how does this end? I mean, that's kind of dark. dark. But maybe we just leave it to be continued, you think? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:16:13 But we can pray that that doesn't happen because we don't know that that's, we don't know that's going to happen, right? They put their faith in God. We should put our faith in God. Amen. Yeah. That's where my faith is. Yep.

Starting point is 01:16:24 In Jesus name, man, amen, brother. We just have to keep our faith where we can. And we can, we can control what we can control. And it's always, if that's the case and it's always been part of something. Yes. You know, and it's like, all we can do is do or just do what we can and try our best by our own compass, right? That's right.

Starting point is 01:16:41 Amen. Amen. Yeah. Jesus. Believe in Jesus. Yeah. Amen. You are, you're Chinese?

Starting point is 01:16:49 Yes, thank you. Yes. Okay, sorry. Just making sure. I didn't know. I don't know for sure if you are or not. What's, what's, some people, has anybody ever said they thought you were a plant that you, they thought you.

Starting point is 01:17:00 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you get? Okay. So now and then. Because you'd be a good Chinese asset. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah. Well, there are people who believe on the Antichrist. There are people who believe that I'm in my Chinese classroom with my whiteboard, and my whiteboard is magical, so I can actually, like, direct the course of human events with my whiteboard. I'm just there, and I'm just like, I want war, and I want, you know, and I'm like, I'm not the end of Christ. Okay. I swear to you, I'm not the end of Christ. Okay.

Starting point is 01:17:28 I'm a Chinese spy, but I'm not the end of Christ. Okay. Speaking of that, speaking of China, what is China's relationship right now? Where do they play a role? Because you didn't factor them into this at all. Yeah. China, China looks at what's happening and they're like, what the fuck is going on? What the hell are you guys doing? That's China. Do you think that they're hyper worried? Do they have a lot of like, do they have a lot of intelligence assets that are over here working and that are working in the Middle East? What do you think is going on? I'm sure. Because they obviously, they're a world power. They're going to have, they're going to be concerned and involved. Yeah. So the problem with China is that Chinese are not.

Starting point is 01:18:08 religious. So it's almost impossible for Chinese to appreciate what's happening in the Middle East. But they're capitalists, though. They're capitalists, and they want this war to end as soon as possible, because they want people to trade with each other. Chinese don't go to war. They trade. And so everyone in China is just completely confused. But historically, Chinese, there's been war in China. Well, there's war within. in China, but China doesn't really go out and invade other countries the way that, you know, the United States does. So what is America's current relationship with China?

Starting point is 01:18:48 Do you feel like, I've had friends recently say that they think the safest place to move in the world right now is China? Yeah, I think that what's happening is a domino effect where the war in the Middle East spirals out of control. It engulfs everyone. So... Like a war. Yeah, and it's like total war.

Starting point is 01:19:10 And what would the sides be? It would be complete chaos. So the idea is that the world will break out into regional wars. So imagine in Europe, NATO is fighting Russia in Ukraine, right? And there's a possibility that Russia may take over the Baltic countries, Latvia, Luthania, Estonia, Estonia, and maybe even attack Poland. Okay, so imagine all of Europe is out in flames. You move over to the Middle East and everyone's at East's throat.

Starting point is 01:19:51 Right? You move over to East Asia, what the most likely scenario is that China is in conflict with Japan and North Korea is in conflict with South Korea. Korea. The real danger in East Asia is not China. It's actually North Korea because North Koreans have obviously nothing to lose. They're kind of crazy and they're brave. So North Koreans have been sending soldiers to fight in Ukraine and they fight to the death. Is that true? Yeah, 10,000 North Korean troops is 10,000 North Korean troops in Ukraine right now? Yeah, in Ukraine, that's right. And they fight to the death. And the reason why is they're captured, their family members back in North Korea get killed. Yeah. No way. Welcome to a dictatorship.

Starting point is 01:20:40 North Korea continues to expand its military support for Russia and the war against Ukraine. In addition to sending troops in weaponry, Pyongyang is now said to have deployed a missile unit to Western Russia. Wow. By the end of 2024, Ukraine, the United States and the South Korea estimated that around 10,000 to 12,000 North Korean soldiers have been sent to Russia. And that's just 2024. That's right. So they're trying to raise them to 30,000. Wow. Yeah. Unbelievable. I've heard you talk about the grand bargain with China, and that's between America and China. That's right. Tell me a little more about that.

Starting point is 01:21:14 Right. So there are two nations that currently benefit the most from the current global economic order. They are the United States and China. The United States, obviously, because it controls the U.S. dollar. But China as well because China was able to live millions out of poverty because of global trade. Right. So both are heavily invested in maintaining the current. global order. And so the idea of a grand bargain is that they resolve the Taiwan issue,

Starting point is 01:21:44 where basically China and Taiwan sign an agreement where they reconcile politically, and the United States withdraws from East Asia and allows China to maybe dominate East Asia. Okay, understood. So that's something that China would want, probably just a little bit more assurance that they don't have to deal with America over there. That's right. But also, like, for China, Taiwan is a huge political issue because, you know, there's something called a century of humiliation where China was carved up in the 19th century by the Western powers.

Starting point is 01:22:23 And having Taiwan back in the fold of the motherland would be a tremendous political achievement because it would mean the reunification of the motherland, the completion of the motherland. And that's something that China would pay a huge price for. And right now, the United States needs China to buy more U.S. treasuries. So that's the idea of the grand bargain. Got it. What do you think is going on with America right now? Do you feel like we're still the world's economic superpower?

Starting point is 01:22:55 It's an empire and decline. It's like I'm just walking the streets of Los Angeles. and it really seems that America is on the brink of a civil war. Really? You think that? Yeah. How would that happen, though? Yeah, I think that the midterms will be a major test of the cohesion of this country. And what I think may happen is Trump may go for a third term.

Starting point is 01:23:29 No way. How could he do it? Can't you only go for two terms? So according to the Constitution, there's something called the 22nd Amendment, which says that a U.S. President may not sit for more than two terms. But there's a loophole. The loophole is, imagine 2028. Don Jr. is at the top of the ticket, and Donald Trump is the vice president. They win, and then Don Jr., he, resigns and then Donald Trump is now the president again. No way. You think that you think that's going

Starting point is 01:24:06 to happen? I think there's a strong possibility this could happen. But also there's the war powers act where America's at war and so they just start in the constitution which is what happened in Ukraine. That's why Ukraine could not have an election. Right, because they're at war. And if they could have an election, would they still elect Zelensky do you think? Probably not. Got it. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of darkness out there. Yeah. What are some positives that you see? What are things, what's a positive way that you see out of some of this? And please have an answer for me, Professor. Yeah, family.

Starting point is 01:24:38 Love, God. I mean, that's why we're here. We're here to experience things that we couldn't experience anywhere else because we're eternal souls. Like, once you appreciate that this is only what, the thing that we're experiencing here, it's only a journey in a

Starting point is 01:24:54 eternity of experiences and that we're here to experience things that are unique to this world. And one thing that's unique to this world. And one thing that's unique to this world, is family, like having children. So. And love.

Starting point is 01:25:08 And love, exactly. Hug in somebody. Exactly. Yeah, doing your best. Yeah. Being supportive, sharing. So if you just focus on what's happening geopolitically, you go insane. You'll literally go insane.

Starting point is 01:25:20 Are you insane yet? I have a family. Okay. So I have a wife who loves me. So I want to tell you the story of how my wife and I met. And you can appreciate how much we love each other. Okay.

Starting point is 01:25:35 Okay. So we met each other about 10 years ago. And I'm about 40. And this is like the darkest moment in my life. What was going on? Well, I was unemployed. I had no place to stay. And I was depressed.

Starting point is 01:25:50 And I felt that life was hopeless. And I literally believed that my wife was an angel sent by God to redeem me, to save me, to show me that love is possible. So that one day I could be sitting across from you telling the world that love is possible. And if we just move towards love, then we will redeem the world. But so I made this my wife randomly, and we go on a first date. Where'd you meet her at? I met her randomly at an event.

Starting point is 01:26:23 And it was like love at first sight. And I asked for a number. I called her out. And if you ask for it, God will give it to you. And I was asking for someone who could be my wife. I wanted to start a family. And so we go on this date. And I took it someplace really nice in Beijing.

Starting point is 01:26:43 We go to a Japanese restaurant. I order sake. And it's a lovely date. Now, the custom in China is that on the first date, if you really like someone, the woman will get serious suddenly, okay? I mean, you can be laughing for a route,

Starting point is 01:27:01 but suddenly the, like, the woman will get really serious. Look at you dead in the eye and ask you, how much money do you make? Like, what's the size of your bank account? Really? That's a serious. That's a real thing that happens in. Yeah, you know, because in the United States,

Starting point is 01:27:15 like, you know, they'll ask you what your dick size is, right? Yeah, something. What are more advanced civilization, so we ask, like, how much money you have. Got it, got, got, yeah, okay. So, okay. And like, I'm really afraid we reached this point, right?

Starting point is 01:27:28 So this date is going fantastic. We're two hours and we're just laughing. We're connecting. We're sympathetic. And then my date, my future wife gets serious, looks at me dead in the eye. And I'm freaking out. I'm trembling.

Starting point is 01:27:46 I'm nervous because, like... Because you don't have a job. I don't have a fucking job, man. Yeah. And so she looks at me in the eye. And she asked me, so. are you gay? Oh.

Starting point is 01:27:58 And I felt such relief. I knew she's the one, man. She gets me. Right? Yeah, yeah. She doesn't care if I'm poor. She just cares if I'm gay. Yes.

Starting point is 01:28:10 I can work with that, you know? Yeah, dude, of course. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like these moments that make this world so wonderful and so blessed. So we should just focus on moments like this. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:25 moments where people are asking if you're gay or not. Yeah. Well, it's better than asking your dick size or, you know, your bank account. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think, yeah, it is better than asking how much money you make. Yeah. I'm so happy that you've found, that you got somebody. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:38 Because you were 40 and you didn't think you were going to have someone. That's right. I thought that I was, my life, I was adrift. I thought that life was pointless. What were you doing? Were you living at home? No, I was like literally living from place to place with my suitcase. I had no place to live.

Starting point is 01:28:56 I was unemployed. Don't they give you a job in China? Like, tell me a little bit more. What is it like in China? Yeah, yeah. So I went to China to work as an education reformer. So I believe, like, the best way to build a good future is. But you grew up there?

Starting point is 01:29:12 No, no. So my background is I was born in China, but when I was six, I moved over to Canada. And that's where I grew up. Then I went to Yale University. Dang, cool. Yeah, yeah. And then I went back to China to help reform the school system. I love Canada, man.

Starting point is 01:29:28 Did you live in Winnipeg? No, I lived in Toronto. Oh, dang. Yeah, I'm hoping my friend Diego Pa-Povie goes up there and plays for Canada. Yeah. Like, you know, Canada's really cool, but, you know, we're a bit slow. We have five years of high school rather than four. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:29:41 So, you know, our IQ is a bit lower than the Americans. But you guys have great posture up there. Canada has some of the best posture in the whole world I've noticed. That's something that I've noticed. Okay, so you end up back over there in China. But yeah, is it like, do you hear a lot of stories that like people can only have one child? Like what are some of the policies that are true over there that we hear about? Well, you know, the one child policy was true for a long time.

Starting point is 01:30:05 But then Chinese were aging and there were none of children to support the elderly. So they, and then the birth rate was declining. And so they promote policies to encourage more fertility. And now you can have as many children as you want. Nice. But I mean, the reality is, like, most young people do not want to have children. It's a situation, I mean, it's a similar situation throughout the world. Like, in the United States, young Americans don't want to have children.

Starting point is 01:30:34 Europeans are the same way. Right now, the fertility rate in East Asia, in South Korea, I think it's 0.6. In China's 1.0. In Japan, it's like 1.2, 1.3. But it's really low. World population prospects, the United Nations publisher. What chart is this, Nick? tell me? Yeah, I think this is world fertility rate. In 1963, it was 5.3 births per woman,

Starting point is 01:31:01 and now it's 2.2 births per woman. Huh. That's wild. And China has 1.0, one birth per woman. Yeah. And wait, who has that big, go to the top and hit the tops? Chad, Congo, they have six births per women, Niagara, Mozambique. Five births of women. So my wife has seven-class roommates. There's eight in her dorm. And we have three kids. Oh, you guys have three kids?

Starting point is 01:31:34 We have three kids. And I met your once on Christopher. He's here today. That's right. That's right. Yes. And so she, during their 30s, which is a prime age to have children. And collectively, they have three kids.

Starting point is 01:31:49 Hmm. Yeah. So it's not happening. No, it's not happening. Yeah. We've looked at some stuff today that seems kind of dower, but it's also interesting, you know. Do you think that peace is an option, and how would we get there? Do you feel like?

Starting point is 01:32:03 Like, what has to adjust? I think that for the longest time, we've trusted our leaders to... I agree with you. We thought they had our best interests. That's right. That's right. And in fact, there's controlled by secret societies, and they're crazy people who want to achieve their ascotology.

Starting point is 01:32:22 And it's time for us to wake up. And if we collectively wake up, then we will achieve peace in this world. But waking up is a hard process. Yes. As you know, right, it's a very hard process. It means going against social conventions. It means defying all that you've been taught. It means losing a lot of friends and family in the process.

Starting point is 01:32:44 Have you suffered from even speaking out about certain things? And like, have you, like, had any issues, like, come your way? Have you ever fear for your safety? Have you had people that have spoken? up against you or like what's that what's that been like for you yeah so um one thing that i think a lot about is what are the consequences for telling the truth for speaking up for drawing attention to six societies and here's my logic i think that these people get to where they are because they are they really do believe in God.

Starting point is 01:33:24 But the God they believe in may not be the God that we believe in, right? But they really do believe in God. And they really believe that what they're doing is doing God's will and they're accelerating events that were predestined by God since the beginning of time. And so I present a paradox to them because I seem to know their plans, right? And so if I don't get their plans correct, then I'm an idiot and they can just ignore me. But if I'm able to articulate their plans,

Starting point is 01:34:01 then how am I able to know all this? Because I'm not part of the sick societies. I don't know any of these people. By the same time, I know how they think, and I know what their plan is. So they can't resolve this paradox. So the only thing they can do is ignore. me. I'm kind of dissonance. Does that make sense? Right. If they were to come for you,

Starting point is 01:34:24 then it would prove that there's something true about their plan. Is that what you're saying? No. If they, so in their mindset, if the only way I could know their plan is if God told me their plan. But they think that they're doing God's work. So how to explain the fact that God's telling them what to do, but also God's telling me to tell the world that their plans bad. What the plans are. So they're like, well, we don't know how to resolve this. So let's just ignore this guy.

Starting point is 01:34:57 Yeah. Do you... Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. One more point is the idea of... So there's a theory out there that a lot of these societies, they reveal to you what their plan is. and the reason why is

Starting point is 01:35:20 let's just say they screw up and they blow up the world and we all go to heaven and then God asked hey so what happened how did you blow up the earth and well most of us would be like

Starting point is 01:35:34 we didn't know what was going on right right so they get all the blame but let's just say they tell us their entire plan oh right then it's all of our fault then it's our fault we're complicit in our own destruction Yeah.

Starting point is 01:35:46 Right? So maybe I'm a useful tool. Maybe I'm a useful idiot who mysteriously is able to decipher their plans. I'm telling them the world what's happening. But the secreters are like, that's cool of us because now everyone knows what's happening and they do nothing and it's complicit. And so, yeah. We've all become very complicit with things being okay.

Starting point is 01:36:11 Yeah. Is it the same in China? Yes. Yes. Exactly. It's kind of heartbreaking. sometimes. It's like, I don't know what happened. I don't know if there's been like this slow sedation. I can't tell what has occurred. I can't tell if, you know, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:36:28 It all just feels like we've lost some of our... The great truth is that we're all spiritual beings. We are first and foremost spiritual beings. That's true. But materialism has corrupted us. We should be focused on our spiritual well-being, on our consciousness, on elevating ourselves, on being generous, on being open, on being spiritual. And now we live in a world where money is everything. So we just pursue materialism. Right. We're so, yeah, you're so focused your whole life

Starting point is 01:37:00 and it's all built towards this. You've got to go to school to get a grade, to get a college, you get a job, to get a thing, and then get it from a... That's right. And to get a house. Everything is like the next carrot, it's always something. We are in the matrix.

Starting point is 01:37:13 Yeah. And we have to wake up. Wow. Dang. We are in the Matrix. Hello. We're in here. We won out.

Starting point is 01:37:25 Whoever's seeing us, we want out. Help. We're in an interesting spot, it feels like, with, oh, was that CERN accelerated? Did that have anything to do with how time has been adjusted? Do you think, or no, do you see anything with that? I don't know much about that either, okay? One thing I wanted to ask you before you leave,

Starting point is 01:37:47 financially you've talked about the transnational capital capital yeah what would you do with money or assets right now like do what do you feel like the future that could look like have you thought about that much yeah so I think that

Starting point is 01:38:03 the world is heading towards financial collapse and it's pretty clear with the AI bubble right where you know they're building these data centers and it's really uncertain how they will make money out of these data centers. And it really seems the A bubble is going to burst.

Starting point is 01:38:23 And it really seems that the United States is heading towards financial collapse. And so I think that, you know, trying to figure out where to put your money, it's a dead end. You have to think about how do I live my consciousness so that I'm ready to help myself as well as others in a time of crisis. Oh, okay. Right. So what could I create right now? What could I start to have around me? Or what knowledge could I start to have?

Starting point is 01:38:54 Yes. Because if the grid goes down, suddenly you're just back to your own knowledge. That's right. And dude, a lot of us, if we had to go back to our own knowledge, bro. Yeah. Shit would be bunk. Yeah, we're dead. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:06 So, but it will be exciting. Yeah. But I do think you're right. It's like, what skills would you have? What can you apply? How could you help someone? What could you offer? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:14 And in a weird way, man, I feel like it's almost what we could use the most. Is that scary to say that? Look, I think that what you do, telling jokes, is exactly what we will need in a time of crisis. We need in a time of darkness to see the light. And laughing is the best way to see the light. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:39 Yeah, man. Telling stories, being a part of joy, sitting around and people laugh, and that's my favorite thing. That's right. Yeah, sometimes I got lost, I think, on just like what was important, you know, the past few years. It's been fun. I've been having a good time, but some of it's just been like, yeah, I don't know, you get, you get focused and you kind of, you don't lose yourself, but you feel a little disconnected from yourself, you know.

Starting point is 01:40:02 Yeah. So, you know, I work in school reform. And what my theory is that a school should be centered around laughter. because if kids come into class laughing, they learn the best. They're engaged, they're excited. So there was a science experiment many years ago called... A scientific experiment?

Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah, yeah, called Laugh Club, okay? And so this Indian doctor, all he did was bringing people together at a park and just laugh together. And laughing is infectious, right? So if someone's laughing, other people are laughing. Yeah. And he just asked people, to pretend to laugh, like to ha ha ha ha ha.

Starting point is 01:40:45 But what's magical is like when you start to pretend to laugh, and other people are playing laugh as well, people start to laugh naturally. Yeah. And what he discovered is people who participate in laugh club every morning, the kids would go to school and pay more attention in class. Wow. The adults would go to work and have less stress.

Starting point is 01:41:07 And the elderly would be much more resilient against disease. Cover them from disease faster. Really? Yes. It's called Laugh Club. The Laughing Club of India usually refers to Mira Nars, short documentary about Mumbai's early laughter club movement, not a single exclusive organization. The film follows groups who meet often in parks to do stretching, clapping, breathing exercises, and deliberate group laughter as a social and stress relief practice. The movement was begun in Mumbai in 1995 by physician Dr. Madan Kataria. Its earliest meetings used jokes, but participants quickly shifted a laughter

Starting point is 01:41:43 when the jokes ran out. Huh? This is a movement you should start in the United States. Amen, bro. We need some things. We need to feel inspired. And I don't mean, I don't even mean you, whoever's listening. I mean me.

Starting point is 01:41:57 I mean, yeah, there's just, I don't know. I'm glad we're talking about it today. I do feel like there is an awakening in some ways. And I do feel like, yeah, we have been stuck in this Matrix. I've heard you talk before you leave. And thank you so much for your time today. No, it was great. Fantastic.

Starting point is 01:42:12 Really cool, man. Thank you. You know, I came with purpose, which is tell them the joke about my wife and like the joke. And I've done that. So I'm good. Okay, good. Yeah. I've heard a lot of what we consume nowadays is very, there's huge filters on it.

Starting point is 01:42:28 It's like the information that we get what's allowed to come through. You know, I think we saw that after like the, a lot of information came out about Gaza. It's like now I don't see many videos about it anymore. Yeah. I think a lot of the, just, you know, there's a lot of strong. holds on who has who is letting information through to us. That's right. How do you, I've heard you talk about a propaganda test before.

Starting point is 01:42:51 What's a propaganda test that you use to know if something is propaganda or not? Yeah. So, I think what's really important is for people to make predictions. because whenever we say something, we're making certain assumptions about the world. And so the way for us to know if the way we understand the world is correct or not, is by extending the logic and making predictions about how the world should turn out. And if it doesn't turn out the way that we predicted,

Starting point is 01:43:28 then we should just reflect on how we think and make changes to ourselves. And I think the greatest problem in the world that we have today is gatekeeping. There's too much gatekeeping in media. There's too much gatekeeping in academics. So, for example, I'm not really a professor. You're not? I'm not a professor. I'm a high school teacher.

Starting point is 01:43:49 Okay. I don't have a PhD. Right? So just for, yeah, just to be for honesty, okay? But that's just gatekeeping. Like, where, you know, if you're not a college professor, you don't have a PhD, you're not a specialist. you don't get to be called a professor, okay? So there's just too much gatekeeping going on.

Starting point is 01:44:06 Yeah. I think that one way to improve our society is if experts are forced to make predictions. Because now we know how good their knowledge set is, right? Right? And now it's democratic. Now it's not just like your Harvard PhD and therefore you know what you're doing. No, I know. It's like you.

Starting point is 01:44:25 Show your work. Yeah, exactly. Show your work. Bro, I like that. Yeah, let's be democratic. Yeah. A basketball. player, it's like, you don't just believe he's good if he tells you.

Starting point is 01:44:34 That's right. Or you believe he's good because he went to a lot of basketball camps. He's got to go do it. Look at COVID, right? I mean, during COVID, they were run out these vaccines. Oh, dude, Anthony Fauci's a f***ing it, dude. Look, look, look. And he was like, how dare you question the science?

Starting point is 01:44:52 We know better than you. We have your best interest in the heart. Just obey us. Trust the science, bro. Yeah. And that's it. And it's like, okay, fine, show me the science because, you know, show me. I know.

Starting point is 01:45:09 It's the Matrix, man. Yeah. I'm glad we got to meet at least here in The Matrix. Yeah, yeah. Well, everything happens for a purpose. Yeah. You know, and like, you know, I really respect what you do. You bring truth to the world for laughter.

Starting point is 01:45:22 And that's really the most powerful way of communicating. Well, thank you, Professor Young. I appreciate it. Yeah, I just appreciate that, like, just interact. I think one thing that is great about social media and technology is just the different people that you can bear witness to, you know, and different people that can get their voice out there. And I think it's great that you've developed a voice for yourself. What do your students think about it? What do they think about it in China?

Starting point is 01:45:52 Are you more popular here than in China? I'm way more popular here than in China. People think I'm actually insane in China. Why is it because you're brave that you put yourself out there? Is that a thing that doesn't happen very much in China where people kind of put like? Yeah. So I think that a lot of things I say are dark. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:16 And so they would rather be ignorant. Oh, I see. Ignorance is bliss. Yeah. It is, man. I used to be so ignorant, dude. And I was fucking doing great. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:46:28 Absolutely. Top is doing great, dude. Yeah. But, you know, once you. achieve full knowledge, you'll do even better. Oh, I'll never get there. But, yeah, a little bit at a time, man. It's always about the journey.

Starting point is 01:46:42 Yeah. It's always about the journey. Yeah. And yeah, connecting with the people that you love, that's what God put us here for. That's why we're here. That's right. Family.

Starting point is 01:46:49 We're here to have experiences that mean something. Yes. Yeah. Professor Zhang, thank you so much for your time today. Travel safe. How do you say goodbye in Chinese? Zajian. Yes.

Starting point is 01:47:00 Okay. Zajian. Zajian. Okay. Now I'm just floating on the breeze and I feel I'm thieves I must be. I'll share the...

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