This Past Weekend - E569 Andrew Schulz

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Make sure to not go to any secondhand site. Just go through the links at thetheovon.com slash T-O-U-R. Today's guest is a standup comedian. He's a podcaster. Um, he has a new special called life on Netflix. It is miraculously done. I'm very thankful to have him return to the podcast. Today's guest is Mr. Andrew Schultz. ["Shine On Me"] Good to see you, man.

Starting point is 00:02:01 Good to see you too. Congratulations on the child. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Congratulations on all your success. Thanks, man. Yeah, appreciate you, man. Good to see you too. Congratulations on the child. Thank you, bro. Appreciate that. Congratulations on all your success Thanks, man. Yeah, I appreciate it, dude. I saw I'm like 17 minutes in your special right now. Oh cool. Cool cool, so dude the control you have on stage is that that's something I really admire like this like It's almost like a sharpshooter up there. I don't know, but the way you have this control on stage is something that's great.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Thank you, man. I appreciate that, brother. Yeah, it's cool, man. How many times did you guys shoot? Twice? We did four shows. Yeah, two a night. That venue is so beautiful. It shot so well. Who shot it? Thank you. So I had my guys do it. Like,ifty edited, I'm messing, I forget the guys who's the DP, and then Troy Miller was the director, and yeah, it's tricky, like filming standup is so tricky, especially when you do these, you know,

Starting point is 00:02:56 we're used to just kind of doing it all ourselves, so then you go do a special, and you kind of realize that like each department is fighting against one another. Like the video department wants to make it look beautiful, but making it look beautiful might make the audio sound bad. The audio department wants to make it sound beautiful. What makes it sound beautiful might mean

Starting point is 00:03:19 your mic is really low in the room, so now the show could be shitty for the audience. You know what I mean? So there's like all these, like we had speakers, I don't know if you noticed, like in the room, so now the show could be shitty for the audience. You know what I mean? So there's like all these, like we had speakers, I don't know if you know, it's like in the front, like usually a lot of times people don't. Yeah, I saw you once where you had your foot up on it. Yeah, and like most people don't do that because the shot is more beautiful if you just have like raw stage.

Starting point is 00:03:37 But I was like, I think the special would be better if the audience enjoys it the most. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like. That's how I agree with that. Because if they have fun, you have fun. Exactly, there was one, I think it was like show one, and there was like miscommunication or something. The camera guy was a really sweet guy,

Starting point is 00:03:54 but he thought it was his job to just keep walking down the aisle and back up the aisle with the camera. And I'm like, bro, they gotta believe that this is kind of just happening. And when you walk in front of them with a camera All the illusion kind of falls apart, right? They're part of a filming instead of like just part of this show So yeah, that's the tree. I wish I didn't even have to tell him we were filming. Yeah You know what I mean? Like I just make it be a regular show. This is just a show

Starting point is 00:04:20 So if you guys yell out or do something, this is as natural as it could possibly be. I wonder if you could have probably done that in hindsight. Yeah, I mean earlier ones I was able to do that, but I think this one I don't know this one. Maybe I was like nervous. I was like fuck I really want to make sure that we could you know fill that place four times and you know I Huge venue, it's beautiful. What is that? Yes, the beacon in New York. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty Yeah, dude. This looks I mean I thought I was like this is unbelievable looking. Oh, it's pretty. Yeah, dude, this looks, I mean, I thought, I was like, this is unbelievable looking. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, you guys crushed it.

Starting point is 00:04:48 Even the font that they chose for Andrew Schultz's life, I thought was perfect. Oh, thanks, man. There was just a lot of great choices, I thought. Yeah, the first Netflix special, you know, the first thing that comes up on the black screen, that's actually my wife's handwriting. Oh, really?

Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, yeah. She wasn't actually my wife's handwriting. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. She wasn't aware that that's what it was, but it was a, because I don't know how far you are in the special yet, but most of it is this journey of us trying to get pregnant. Yeah, yeah, that's where I'm at to like, let me think, oh, after you saw the baby, but you haven't gone through the journey

Starting point is 00:05:21 about getting pregnant, it's just the actual seeing the child, I guess. The C-sections, the like, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, it's incredible, congrats. Thanks, man, thank you. I haven't gone through the journey about getting pregnant just the actual seeing the child I guess see sections Dude is incredible congrats. Thanks, man. Thank you. Yeah, good to see you man. See you man Unbelievable, bro unbelievable frickin been a while. You've been caught up in some beef. You were in the fucking rat beef I was like this dude. I thought you're gonna pop out of Super Bowl. You know, I was supposed to go to the Super Bowl You know I was supposed to go to the Super Bowl. I was supposed to be part of the show. I was like, how wild is this shit gonna get? No, we were gonna go actually. You were there, right? No, I didn't go, man. Me and David Spade started making that movie and so we had to shoot that.

Starting point is 00:05:56 How's that going? It's interesting, man. It's done. Do you like, cause I remember like years ago when we were doing the pod, there was a, hopefully you don't feel bad about me sharing, but you had some frustration with like not being able to create these projects Do you remember us having these conversations where you like you really wanted to make a TV show and didn't feel like those doors were Open and now oh yeah, this movie. You know you're at the top of the world and must feel pretty cool Well, I think we just did it ourselves. Nobody wanted to make it. We took it out We took it to the streamers, and we you created your own movie. Yeah, but you filmed it before even

Starting point is 00:06:28 No, no, we pitched it first. Okay, right. So we pitched it in nobody. No way Oh, dude, we couldn't get and it was spayed You know, I'm like even with you and spayed at this point in your career. There was still hesitation I just felt like it would have been nice to feel some support there You know, like it just would have been like hey look just even as a good faith thing will do that You know something also you probably got PTSD too from like years of wanting to do these things and not really feeling it And then like now you're at this point. We're on top of the world you're like all right now Everybody's gonna give me the opportunity and then to still feel that oh that sucks

Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah, but then I realize it's just how it is just life Yeah, I think I didn't feel like I don't know if I felt on top. I felt like this was a brave thing We're trying to do yeah, it was a new thing I was learning but I felt like with spade it kind of was gonna be okay because kind of no-brainer right He knows what he's doing. That's the other thing is like giving us money to make a movie like we're kind of knuckleheads It's kind of a bad idea. Yeah, this is. Like to us, it's a great idea. We're like, we'll figure it out. They're like, have you done this before?

Starting point is 00:07:28 And I'm like, nah, but it's just, it's a movie, right? It can't be that hard, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But a guy like Spade, he's done it before. Yeah, he'll fucking know. He'll have the camera in his trunk of his car. It's easy. We've got it all figured out.

Starting point is 00:07:40 So. Yeah, why do we have that attitude? Like, we want to make a movie and it costs 30 million dollars We're like these fucking assholes How dare they not give us 30 million dollars even though we've proven we could do nothing What is that about? That's kind of on us a little bit. Oh totally. It's only narcissism is it ego Well, I think I would never think give me dirt I would net like if they even try to do something like that

Starting point is 00:08:07 I'd be like this is insane But what I think what I realized in it was I just want to do something if I can do it by myself Whether it's win or lose. It's like yes I'd rather make it something small and then and even if some like was like let hey come do it with us or some studio I don't want to do that. It's like I just want to do something that it's like, okay Will people like this? Yeah, will they believe that I tried my wanna do that. It's like I just wanna do something that it's like, okay, will people like this? Will they believe that I tried my best? Even if it's not that good, it's like, that's okay.

Starting point is 00:08:31 I can just tell people that go to see it in advance, hey, I'm not gonna be that great in it, but it'll be a cool movie. I just don't wanna lie to, it's just like, as long as there's just a transparency, then I think it's fine. I think people admire those that take risks. I think that's almost like an American thing in general we like risk takers We like people who are brave and I wonder if it's baked in our DNA a little bit like our

Starting point is 00:08:52 Family members that left their families around the world to never see them again for like maybe an opportunity here, right? Like I think that we're probably we have like the DNA of the biggest risk takers on the planet Yeah, like Christopher Columbus. You'd like what about his sister or whatever boring bitch? I think that we're probably, we have like the DNA of the biggest risk takers on the planet. Yeah, like Christopher Columbus, dude, like what about his sister or whatever? She's a boring bitch. Yeah, she just got left in fucking wherever. And probably lived a way better life. She's not learning Native American. She's just chilling.

Starting point is 00:09:17 She's out over here lying to Indians for lunch. Just shows up, what do you mean there's no gold? But dude, you had it. imagine taking off in a boat. People are like, where are you headed? You're like, I don't know, fuck it, are you trying to be cool, right? Because it's like your last day on the docks or whatever. You're like, I don't know, we'll figure it out

Starting point is 00:09:33 when we get out there. Like, when we get out there. You gotta be selling the dream, though. You're like, no, no, no, trust me. That's true. Trust me, it's crazy over there. Oh. Yeah, they got everything.

Starting point is 00:09:43 Women, you get out there. I heard they could get a couple miles out there There's just a lot of women out there They got him on the way you don't even have to make it the whole way they got stops Yeah, it is a so anyway, so I think I think Like naturally, you know you get a lot of success There are gonna be people that enjoy seeing you fail or whatever it is But unfortunately, I guess human beings we got that in us a little bit.

Starting point is 00:10:06 But I do also feel like the people that ride for you appreciate the risk that you'd be taking. Yeah. I do think it. I think all of us as comedians, I think they do. I think that's one of the reasons why comedians and podcasts maybe does well is because, well for one, I think we try to,

Starting point is 00:10:23 this sounds fucking egomaniacal. I have no idea. Well say it, say it say it say it, but no I heard somebody say that Like a lot of podcasters. They're just trying to figure out the truth They just they're not like we don't work for anybody so it's like you if you ask somebody a question It's just because you want to know yeah, it's not cuz like there's a producer saying let's let's get this answer Yeah, curiosity is kind of punished in a way, but maybe it's because they'll put us on such a pedestal. They're like, you should know the answer to these things. It's like, well, I don't.

Starting point is 00:10:49 And that's why this guy's here, because I'm trying to figure out the answer to it. And I just want to know their take. Right, I might not even be able to communicate that well or rebuttal or grill them that well, but I just want to like. I want to grill them. I want to know what they think. And then I'll bring somebody else

Starting point is 00:11:03 who thinks something different, and I'll ask him that and But yeah, that is I guess maybe some criticism is like well Why'd you ask why didn't you ask this question or why didn't you rebuke rebuke that and it's like bro? I don't know. I don't know anything just yeah, I'm not a doctor I'm not a politician like I got in this own trap of just cuz the last year we got to have some political people In the body and I was like didn't do there was like I'm like a month ago I started thinking like oh, I'm some political people in the body and I was like then dude there was like I'm like a month ago I started thinking like oh, I'm a political guy Did you feel you had to be informed were you like reading Wall Street?

Starting point is 00:11:33 No, I just like I thought like cuz here was a crazy thing people started coming up to me Well people would come up to me and ask me about political shit like like as your take Well people would come up to me and ask me about political shit. I was like like as your take I don't know dude like You know or like it's so but then I started realize while people's perceptions are affected like how they see people where they see Them at and stuff and then I was like well I do have some political thoughts like most of us kind of regular people's kind of thoughts and ideas like they're not super in-depth But yeah, I think for like a week I started smoking my own nuts

Starting point is 00:12:07 and thinking I was like fucking J. Edgar Hoover or somebody, you know. I actually think that like whatever your perception of your feelings are about something, that's actually more valuable than what the like factual truth is. Because most people aren't reading up on the factual truth.

Starting point is 00:12:24 Like you gotta meet people where they are emotionally That's good point and the people are trusting their guts So I think yeah when we do just talk to somebody and you don't let the people let people decide well do that Do I think like I believe that guy do I you know and then they get to decide and you might hate what that person? Says but don't dismiss him because there might be a lot of people they feel that same way Yeah, you know what I mean like there's a lot of people that feel that same way. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people, I've heard people say this a lot.

Starting point is 00:12:48 They go, the economy actually wasn't that bad under Biden or whatever it is. The economy, and it's like, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. You can't tell somebody who feels the economy is bad that it's not bad. That's a good point. Right? If they feel like the eggs are expensive,

Starting point is 00:13:04 that's what they feel. It's like, I would say this, if I get into an argument with my wife, like I do something to piss her off, and, like, she doesn't want me to explain to her why she shouldn't be upset. Right? Like, that never works. Right? Like, I know you're upset, but you shouldn't be because of these reasons.

Starting point is 00:13:21 She's like, fuck you. She just wants me to be like, hey, my bad. I'm sorry I made you feel that way. And I feel like our whole political discourse, and I don't know anything about politics, but I feel like the whole political discourse is just like, you're wrong because. And then the others are going, you're wrong because.

Starting point is 00:13:35 And then it's just shows set up to dunk on one another. Like there's no good faith conversation. And the second we're out here having like a good faith conversation, like we bring somebody on and we're just like, all right, so what do you feel about the world people go to us like you fucking asshole? How dare you not dunk on that? How do you not humiliate him on your podcast so I can feel good at home? It's crazy, right? Yeah, and you can't win like we had like Candace Owens and Hassan piker. They're like different sides of the aisle

Starting point is 00:14:04 Candace Owens and Hassan Piker, they're like different sides of the aisle last week, right? You had, you like, Rogan had Ian Carroll, and you had Candace on like I think the same day. It was a tough week for his real life. Jews stayed inside. Jews went to the tunnels. They're like, we're here, we're here, everybody into the tunnels. Yeah, put the mattresses back in, son. We gotta figure, we gotta regroup. But dude, I didn't fucking know. I thought, well, somebody from the left is somebody from the right, right? Yeah, but I didn't- Oh, bro. Sorry to go- Yeah, I had no idea. I was just like, okay, let's hear some different thoughts and different opinions or whatever. That's the other thing I realized, like, I think it was after the last special, right?

Starting point is 00:14:39 I was like, okay, you know what? I'm gonna kind of chill, like, I want to spend time with my family, my friends, like, I- Like, I'm not gonna go out and do as many, like, pods and stuff like that, you know what? I'm gonna kind of chill like I want to spend time with my family my friends like I Like I'm not gonna go out and do as many like pods and stuff like that you know, I got a lot of work that I'm doing at home and And I don't know what that like I'm not saying I'm famous I don't know what the fuck like it is to be faint like I never wanted to be famous like I knew that that might Have been like a byproduct of having success in comedy But it wasn't like I never like studied being famous Like I didn't give a fuck about how to be a famous person.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Does that make sense? I mean, well who knew that podcasts would have such, would be, and clips of podcasts would get out so much. Would be huge, right? So like, I remember I was like, okay, I'm not, I'm just gonna chill, I'm not gonna be doing as many pods, et cetera. And that's the thing that I realized,

Starting point is 00:15:22 having different voices on your pod doesn't really do anything for your for the people's perception of you that aren't your fans Wait say one more time so I hear you like so we probably I don't put words in your mouth But like we probably think like I'm gonna have different voices on my podcast and like One I'm curious and I want to know what they think but two I Want to also like let the people out there in the world know I care about hearing from different people. And I care about having diversity of thought on my podcast, right?

Starting point is 00:15:50 The people that don't know you, the casuals, are just judging you by the worst thing you've ever had on your podcast. And the worst thing you've ever said, right? I didn't realize this until recently. The best way to thwart those perceptions of you is not by having people on your show, because the casuals don't watch your show.

Starting point is 00:16:08 It's by going to your biggest critics show and sitting down with them. Or not even your biggest critic, but going to someone who might have a very different world view than you, and then you guys sit down and realize, oh shit, we actually don't have that different a world view. That was all perception.

Starting point is 00:16:23 Anyway, I think a lot of times we go, okay, we're really busy. It's like hard for us to go around and do different shows and that kind of stuff Because I think our perception is is not going like how can I be the most famous person? I don't give a fuck. I want to make the coolest stand-up that I possibly can I want to hang out with my friends And I want to talk some share on podcasts like that's enough for me. Yeah But I've realized the importance now of going to other people's homes and having those conversations. You know, like we had Hasan on our pod. It probably would have been more beneficial for me to also go on his stream and talk to him and let him bring up shit that I said and like tell me, have him tell me like why

Starting point is 00:16:59 I'm missing this like nuance point and be like, oh, that's interesting. Like that might actually be better for the people that barely understand me or don't even know me to have like a more holistic view of me and like understand who I am. Right, to actually go into their world a little bit more. Yeah, because then you find things about me that might not come up on the pot. Like you start asking me things about like how I feel

Starting point is 00:17:17 about, you know, I don't know, whatever it is. I don't know if it's fucking like Marxism or some shit like that. And I go, oh yeah, maybe, actually, that kind of sounds good on paper. I don't know. It'd be like Marxism or some shit like that. And I go, oh yeah, maybe, actually that kind of sounds good on paper. I don't know. It'd be nice if there was a little bit more quality for people and people who had nothing,

Starting point is 00:17:29 had the ability to come up. That'd be pretty cool. A little light Marxism, yeah. Just light. Nah, you know what I mean? Hey, you gotta cut it with something. You need majority capitalism. You know, it's like a cappuccino.

Starting point is 00:17:40 You know what I mean? You can't have, we're not taking espresso shots of Marxism. You know what I mean? Taking espresso shots of Marxism Yeah, just a fucking latte just yeah have calf Damn dude. Yeah, I don't know. It's all it's definitely been Mainstream media just got so like I don't know the whole thing has been bizarre man being a part of podcasting You know all the strange little connections that are out there I mean like you were saying get get Gavin Newsom just started a podcast where he's having people who kind of disagree with him And he had Charlie Kirk on I think it's a really smart thing which is pretty wild

Starting point is 00:18:18 You know it's a really smart thing and we're talking about that at the beginning and dove your producer said that Well, he felt like this was kind of Newsom's last hope too. It's like, cause he was probably, he's probably on the way out. So unless he could do something to salvage that. 100%. But having a podcast and just having people you don't agree with hang out with you for a while is pretty brave. It's also like, that's the exact word I was going to, is like brave. You want to show bravery. And I think like, not to be political, whatever, but I think in the last, and again, I don't care about politics,

Starting point is 00:18:46 but like culture is interesting to me, but I think in the last election with the podcast run, and I just wanna say this personally, I don't think that we changed the election at all. I agree 100%. I have no ego about that. That was decided way before us. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:59 Like, it made me, made people feel more comfortable voicing how they were already gonna vote. But I don't think people are watching, like I'm completely flipped on this. Yeah, that's insane also. Yeah. But yeah, I think that the lack of representation of Kamala and even like her constituents

Starting point is 00:19:20 on the podcast run, I think it showed a lack of bravery. The feeling was like, oh, they're scared to go have potentially tough conversations. It wasn't even gonna be tough with us. What are we gonna grill her on? I couldn't even think of a thing. I mean, I heard that she roller skated a lot, and I would be curious about that,

Starting point is 00:19:36 but it's like, other than that, it's like, I don't know what I would have talked about. But her people are going, we can't go and feel. I mean, he's just gonna come with the hard-hitting questions Right like something like that is insane Yeah, but we don't you don't you appreciate that like as much as Gavin Newsom just seems like a plastic bag in the wind I'm also like it's brave you're willing to sit down on something recorded. I wouldn't talk to Charlie Kirk

Starting point is 00:20:03 That's a good arguer. I know dude. Joe, Candace too, Candace, I always say, Rogan said Candace is John Wick. You do not get it in her fucking way. Uh-uh. Oh, she, yeah, she's definitely, yeah. When you said her kid looked like Anthony Smith,

Starting point is 00:20:19 I was like, you better. I was like, you a crazy motherfucker right here, bro. That daughter, and look, a beautiful kid, that daughter of a kid. You just stop it beautiful, that's what you do, you stop it beautiful. Because you do not want Candace to get fixated, okay? You do not want her to get fixated.

Starting point is 00:20:35 The second she comes up with a Theo video, you gotta hope something happens in Israel past, huh? Shift the attention. Gazaun type. Yeah. I need a bucket. Bro, that was layered. Cause you made it German as well. I brought that in. I can't believe that happened.

Starting point is 00:20:52 Thank you, dude. Gazoontite is good. I did not believe that was gonna come up. I just started with Gaza and then I was like, this won't be funny. I hope people get how layered that is. Thank you, dude. That was teamwork though. I don't know about that. I think you went one on one right there. I said that her daughter looks a little bit like beautiful. Oh the daughter is beautiful I think what we gotta say is that Anthony Smith is a beautiful little girl

Starting point is 00:21:13 Yeah, I think that's the better way of describing. Oh, he's a savage fighter. He's the fisty Charlemagne, baby I think he's all the same. I think he's all the same. He does look mixed a little bit. Is he mixed? Anthony, yeah, he is. I don't know. I think he's a lot, you know, he's latte or whatever they call it. He is. But Anthony's incredible. And that little, and that daughter looks incredible. Oh, she's beautiful. I know. She is.

Starting point is 00:21:44 But shout out to Candice. It's so funny how like... And shout out to Charlamagne too. I just made a joke one time about him. I said he was handsome. Oh, he's handsome. Yeah, he's handsome. He loved that one.

Starting point is 00:21:55 And I don't remember what happened with it, but I just thought it was... I think he brought it up. He's like, there's a deal. I'm handsome. I can't be any time. He is. He doesn't age though. Oh, dude. No, he's killing it. He's killing it. I would like to get to meet him. I can't. He doesn't age though. Oh dude, no. He's killing it.

Starting point is 00:22:05 He's killing it. I would like to get to meet him. I've never, I don't know if I've ever met him. I gotta connect you guys, man. You guys would have a great talk. I bet we probably would. Oh yeah, of course. Yeah, I saw that they just had, who did they have on there that I love?

Starting point is 00:22:18 Who on Breakfast Club? Yeah. I can't remember. You know, the Candice Baldoni stuff? I don't know if you were following that at all. I didn't get into that. I don't get into a lot of the celebrity lore. The only reason why it's interesting to me is that you know, like Candace has

Starting point is 00:22:32 been positioned in a way on the internet, right? And she existed there and people had her opinions on her and like everybody was stuck. They're like, that's this girl and bad no, no, no, no, no, we don't listen to her at all. And she started talking about that

Starting point is 00:22:47 Baldoni Blake Lively thing. And even my wife was hitting me like, have you heard this Candace Owens girl talking about, I mean, she just exposes the whole thing. Like it's crazy how like social utility frames how people see you. So you could be a bad guy and then you start talking in depth about something that people see you. So you could be a bad guy, and then you start talking in depth about something that people care about,

Starting point is 00:23:08 and then all of a sudden, while you're talking about that, you're a good guy, you're a hero. That's interesting. Like what does that say about us? What's the same with the politic thing? It's like people see you talking to a politician, and now like at your Christmas and family stuff, people are coming up and talking

Starting point is 00:23:26 You about asking about politics and shit and foreign protocol or whatever What should we do in Syria? Yeah Yeah, people are asking if I was gonna be an ambassador to something What would you be an ambassador to ask for Louisiana? Yeah, we't need one of them but yeah but we should make a special position yeah but we need hey look I don't know if you heard some of the slang down there but we need someone who can communicate an interpreter between the White House and Boosie okay because we're talking we're losing information the old pond for ambassador of Louisiana the greatest thing the Trump administration has ever done.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Shake it like a doll baby do what you do. I'll be breaking down rap lyrics for him. Dude that is creepy. Is that Robert Green's face on the 48 laws of power? Oh my god. That is one of the most terrifying things I keep looking at like over your over your shoulder It's crazy. I thought it was Dexter now. He looks like Vigo from Ghostbusters 2 remember the dude in the painting Bring him up Vigo Did you see Ghostbusters 2?

Starting point is 00:24:37 No, no, I didn't see it. My mom wouldn't let us watch that kind of stuff Oh, wow, he does and so do I a little bit and so does Alan Dershowitz See you are involved in politics All these names but you plugged in but aren't we plugged in here's the crap The funny thing about Candice is they're like they were like you're an anti-semite and she's like fucking call me whatever you want I'm a fucking I have one of the top ten podcasts in the world. You really don't care. She doesn't give She does not and the amount of people that listen to her. And she changes public sentiment.

Starting point is 00:25:08 Like she flipped that whole Blake Lively Baldoni thing. That flipped. Like he was a, I don't want to say pariah, but people were like this guy's a fucking douchebag. Another one of these like, I'm a male feminist guys and then you're really a creep on set. She completely 180'd the internet on that.

Starting point is 00:25:24 Baldoni gotta give her a check. That's a good point. She don't even want it, I bet. She gotta be so rich because you need to have some money to be that brave and have kids. That's a good point, huh? Right, like once you have kids, you gotta make sure you can protect those kids.

Starting point is 00:25:37 The dad must be like a rifleman or something, or like a... The dad of the babies, right? The dad, yeah, somebody has to be yeah, they're gonna hire Anthony Smith Great actually Denzel Washington Manil fire Pretty great dude, that'd be so great They show up to their next to some place of the whole family and Anthony Smith is our fucking bodyguard. That would be pretty sick, dude Bro, she could be in the bodyguard. It's that's the new bodyguard Stein Candice Owens and Anthony Smith

Starting point is 00:26:13 Wow, whose baby is it? What if she breaks the story down she finds finds out that it's, that's the whole story. Stop it, stop it, stop it. You have a deep dive on her. And she does it. She's surprised by her own results. You would never see that coming. No, but that sounds like a cool,

Starting point is 00:26:37 it actually sounds like a cool movie or something. But we're just joking, Candice, we do not want it. Candice, by the way, we want no problems at all. Zero problems. Are we all looking into the cams when we say this? We want zero problems, okay? Zero problems. Hart for Weinstein didn't do it.

Starting point is 00:26:49 No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's what she's on. That's right. That's what she's saying now. That's what she's saying. But yeah, I will say this. You can't predict her at all. No.

Starting point is 00:26:58 She's brave and she's thorough. Yeah. And she's never lost a lawsuit, so. She is relentless. But it is kinda crazy how like, the mainstream media had just been this machine, And she's never lost a lawsuit. So. She is relentless. But it is kind of crazy how like the mainstream media had just been this machine and then now you're starting to see like, oh, well what about these stories

Starting point is 00:27:11 you never heard about? What about the fact that some information might not even be true because it was all just kind of like part of a plan. Like that shit's kind of wild. And that makes podcasting and like freelance communication or whatever it's called, even more interesting. I don't even know what to believe now.

Starting point is 00:27:31 You see clips and I start, but I'm like, oh, this is what I, and you're like, dude, I haven't, there's no real place to get completely factual truth. Well, maybe because- Except your instinct. Yeah, but maybe because like there is no complete factual truth. That could be it too. I think that, but maybe because like there is no complete factual truth. That could be it too. I think that's the thing.

Starting point is 00:27:47 I think it was probably easier when there's like a few different news channels to disseminate information like kind of we all agree on more like, hey this is what happened during the Civil War. Right. This is what happened during the Revolutionary War. Alright, this is what happened during World War II. I didn't even know Russia did anything during World War II until like a few years ago. I found out like 25 million Russians died in World War II.

Starting point is 00:28:05 Nuh-uh. Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah. Pull that up. How many Russians died in World War II? That's unbelievable. You don't ever hear about that. Never hear about that. But why would we teach that? Right. You know? But it gives you a different concept of who did what. 27 million. Wow. Oh my god. Yeah, 19 million civilian deaths, 8.7 million military deaths. That's the thing with Russia, it's tricky. It's like... So they were an allied force, right? Yeah, and then immediately afterwards, you know,

Starting point is 00:28:34 we started beefing in a Cold War and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, we had a united cause at one point in time, because I think Hitler invaded Russia. Oh, wow. Yeah, but the problem with invading Russia is like, they have a, like a cultural acceptance of misery. Right, so they kind of like it in the beginning. Is that what you're saying?

Starting point is 00:28:53 Of war you're saying? They're like, oh finally, this is our, we're back to homeostasis. Be our guest, be our guest. Yeah, like, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. So, I don't know, I just feel like Americans, we like it. We like nice shit.

Starting point is 00:29:09 We like it being comfortable. We're brave, that's what I will say. I don't have concerns about us losing a war because I do think that we value freedom. I don't think we would ever accept being controlled by another country. I think that the majority of us would rather die before that happened. Right. Or we just don't know that it's happening. Oh, here you go again. Theo, Theo, here you go.

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Starting point is 00:35:25 He is just so unpredictable. The next sentence he says is also one of these things where it's like, people who say wild shit can also be hilarious. Let's stop acting like both of those can't be true. You know what I mean? Him, Dr. Umar, I love Dr. Umar. I've been trying to get Dr. Umar on my show forever.

Starting point is 00:35:43 Really, when you come on? Well, he thinks I wanna debate him. Oh, yeah. And I don't think he understands. I've been trying to get Dr. Umar on my show forever. Really? When you come on? Well, he thinks I want to debate him. Oh, yeah. And I don't think he understands that, like, I'm just a fan. Like, I just think he's a hilarious communicator. Does the culture, does black culture fuck with Dr. Umar or no? As the spokesman for black culture, I would say yes. Yeah, I would say yes.

Starting point is 00:36:01 That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, because I know some of those people are iffy on Charleston White in the black culture You know, yeah. Yeah, because I feel like maybe it's like his position is more critical Right whereas like maybe dr. Umar also has the same two critiques of certain things But he is like a we're black first and we got to stay united. We got to lock this down We got to do what's best for the community, but he is a like magnificently gifted speaker

Starting point is 00:36:25 Mmm, like he just talks in sound bites He has this like pastoral repetition like remember like early Chris Rock and he would like repeat the premise over and over again And it kind of like just Emblazoned into your head But yeah, man, have you ever talked to him? Charlson White no, no, yeah No, I'm familiar with him. I him? Charles White? No, no, Dr. Umar. Dr. Umar, yeah. You're familiar with him, right? I just heard about him, no joking, one week ago.

Starting point is 00:36:48 No way. Somebody mentioned, have you seen Dr. Umar? I think my buddy Zeta told me about him and showed me him. Oh, dude, he was- I thought this, oh, I thought that was fucking Kendrick Perkins or whatever. I just saw this guy. So you thought Dr. Umar was moonlighting on TNT and now everybody just trusting everything he says

Starting point is 00:37:10 Why is Drusky going to him for dating advice? They came after Drusky yeah that bullshit ass claim and against Odell too That's the thing and then like whatever girl did that shit like we'll never hear from her again So you can just say these stupid shit It's just you should be you should have to go to jail for that Yeah, you should have to go to jail for that shit Yeah Because he has to go out and say I didn't do that like that's a crazy thing to have to say as a human

Starting point is 00:37:40 Jay-z had to say that shit, and then they just dropped the lawsuit did you see that against Jay-z? Yeah, and then again nobody dropped the lawsuit. Did you see that? Against JZ? Yeah. And then, again, nobody even notices when the lawsuits drop. It's like you got to scream it from the rooftops, or else nobody will pay attention. And that goes to that, like, hatership with the successfuls. That story was so popular because there was probably a lot of people that were like, man, fuck JZ for having a perfect wife and an amazing family and a child and billions of dollars yeah he probably did that shit damn and they said then they'll be the

Starting point is 00:38:09 other ones tweeting it sharing it everything and there's bots now I mean it's just it's definitely bizarre you got to trust your own gut but yeah you could see an article it's the last thing you saw and then you're like people are like damn wasn't that guy addicted to drugs you like that guy is just won an Oscar it's just like you know I'm saying if you didn't tap in and what's been going on. You know it's all crazy, man You'll see stories about yourself that are crazy I saw a story that I was like a all a jar cheese child or something from the third generation or something and I was like like a billionaire stepchild or whatever and I was like

Starting point is 00:38:40 What are you fucking? I was like it's my dad if we had any money Yeah, they'd never no one ever had it. But yo, here's the thing with that story, it's like, that story is just to discredit you. Right? Like, if you come from crazy money, everybody gets to go, ah, see, it's not real, and you actually didn't have to experience this kind of traumatic childhood, and like, this is all bullshit. It's like, the story's specifically designed to cut your legs out from under you. It's like why do people wanna do that? Why is that?

Starting point is 00:39:10 And maybe it's in all human beings. Maybe it's just something that we have to grapple with. But I imagine like the more confident you are in yourself, the more happy you could be for people who get success. Yeah, that's a good point, man. I think realizing that, I think, well, I think for a while you come from like a scarcity mentality, you know?

Starting point is 00:39:29 Where you're like, man, shit's not gonna, like, fuck, somebody's, something bad's gonna, you know, this ain't gonna be okay. This is gonna go away. Right. This starts to change, or like the government's just gonna come and take everything from you. You can't believe that it's happened

Starting point is 00:39:40 after so many years of trying. Yeah, and then also you're like, you don't know how to have things, and so you're like, well, dude, I remember being ashamed of myself when I didn't have anything and being ashamed of myself when I did have something. But it was really crazy. It was like, I tried to hide, always mask my life

Starting point is 00:39:55 because I didn't want people thinking that, seeing that I didn't have anything or that I didn't feel like I was anything. And then even when I got a house in Nashville, it's a nice home. It's not like some crazy, it's a nice home. It's not like, you know, some crazy It's a it's a nice home, but it's not like a billion dollar home or anything But um, I didn't want to show people my live. I just didn't want them to see like

Starting point is 00:40:14 You know, I don't know. It's just fucking crazy. It was like so in the end There was some part of me that just didn't want to be That either only cared about what you thought or just didn't want to be happy for myself No matter what and then you can never feel comfortable no matter where you are. In this journey, man, it's, and that's, I guess what would they say, that comes down to self-acceptance.

Starting point is 00:40:34 It's like once you accept it, like you should be entitled to your success and you work hard for it, then you're not as dependent on the validation of others. I know. But it's hard to get away from that, I think. I don't know if it's hard. Some things like doing ayahuasca, that kind of stuff

Starting point is 00:40:48 has helped a lot of that stuff go away, though. Really? Yeah. That kind of stuff's been a, um... You've done that a few times? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like it, dude. Really?

Starting point is 00:40:57 Yeah, you do it enough times, they give you this jacket. Oh, yeah, definitely. Some guy walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica, Jacketa, para ti. You got a punch card? Guy walks out of the jungle in Costa Rica Jacket that party You get a punch card That is cool, you know told me Neil told me that uh, oh yeah Neil Brennan became the he became like this Connector go on but now I think that's kind of what it is like you know Neil is one of his superpowers is his cynicism

Starting point is 00:41:27 You know like he's constantly consumed. I hope he doesn't mind me saying as well He's constantly consumed of like what the worst-case scenario of something would be or what the worst What the worst person would think about the thing he's doing and what's what's good about that is like when you're creating stuff you There's a there's an advantage in that you're always thinking about what your biggest critic could say. So maybe you really try to sharpen every premise and sharpen every joke and make sure there's no fat and it's like infallible.

Starting point is 00:41:54 And the negative aspect about that is that like, if you're just creating for them, it's hard to create something authentically. And then he said, he was like, listen, after I did that, like that voice started to dim a bit. And like, I didn't have, I wasn't constantly consumed with the critic. And I was able to make, I think my best shit.

Starting point is 00:42:13 I think that's true. It's like, it's hard to create authentically when you're worried about what critics would say. Like you're just making shit for them, you know? Like- Or for somebody, especially when your whole life You've only tried to you've gained a lot of your acceptance from other people Yeah, you know, I think that's probably been a lot of my life, but I didn't even know who I was

Starting point is 00:42:33 There wasn't a me. So the only thing there was was your reaction. Yeah, so I didn't fucking do you think you found yourself? I think it's gotten better as I've gotten older Yeah, I think some of it is getting older. You just kind of like I can't fucking whoever you are motherfucker. We gotta come out We got a lot of time left, bro You know I did for 40 years my boy like enjoy some of this shit. We got a new jacket You just get tired of it That's great, dude. Yeah, so I don't know, but I think also you just get older and you're like, there's just no...

Starting point is 00:43:12 Whatever part of you that still cares about this shit starts to go away. I think it's just exhausted too. Of chasing its tail, kind of. Maybe that's the release for you with something like Ayahuasca, where instead of constantly searching for what it is and who you are, you do feel connected to whatever this greater existence is, and you just get to go, okay, I'm not gonna fucking worry all day about what exactly I am

Starting point is 00:43:35 and what I don't have and just be this, you know, bottomless pit that a lot of us in entertainment can be. Like, there is... And maybe that's what you need. Maybe you need that reminder. Yeah. Maybe you need that reminder. Maybe you need that reminder you're part of something bigger. Yeah, I think that's a good point, because once you feel like you're part of something bigger, there's some connection, then you kind of don't

Starting point is 00:43:54 just think about yourself. You're not as isolated. Yeah, you're not, it's, there's something liberating about knowing things are way bigger than you. When it's not bigger than you, it's very easy to get caught in your own head. It's, fuck, it's a lot of pressure, I imagine. If you're just thinking about you

Starting point is 00:44:10 and how you're being perceived and if you're becoming the man you thought you would be and if you feel comfortable with the success you've had, how other people will react to that success, fuck, that's crippling. That shit, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's kind of scary, I think, as you get older. I think, yeah, popularity's kind of that shit. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. That's kind of like scary I think as you get older I think you have popularity is kind of scary watching your own ego and being conscious of like what is your ego and what is?

Starting point is 00:44:31 Just you trying to have some self-confidence in yourself Especially if some of those things are kind of like you're like kind of a late bloomer and some of that shit's happening You know can be happen simultaneously It's all yeah, what's an example of that? Can I mean even some of the like thinking about I knew something about politics It was like just the fact that it took me a couple weeks to realize dude You don't know about fucking politics like yeah, you got to talk to some political people But do and how much do they really know and but it's like don't that's a trap, right?

Starting point is 00:44:59 What do you know about you know about like being curious? You know about like wanting to talk to different people you know about trying to be funny You know about being curious, you know about wanting to talk to different people, you know about trying to be funny. I think politics is always a reflection of culture. Politics is downstream from cultural needs and necessities. And I think that one of the things that's made you so successful is I think you're deeply connected to culture. You're aware of what people are feeling, you're aware of what they're frustrated by.

Starting point is 00:45:23 And regardless if there's data analysis to back up every single one of those claims, to me that doesn't mean anything. You can list out all the facts you fucking want, but you're aware of people's frustrations. And politicians have to react to that. So you don't need to know what fucking senator is pushing what bill,

Starting point is 00:45:42 because they're all reacting to the thing that you're more acutely aware of probably than even them Yeah, yeah, I guess it like you can't be a comedian if or at least a high-performing comedian if you're not in touch with like What people are feeling yeah like I? At his core. I think that's really what makes somebody a good comic Yeah, and how to stay like just how to like how to stay connected to that type of thing, I guess, you know? And sometimes with success, it's harder to connect to it.

Starting point is 00:46:10 And it's also harder for them to connect to you. That's probably why you want to hide the house in Nashville. You're like, fuck, well, they feel like they can't relate to me because of this new life I live. That's something that, like... So I grew up in New York City, right? In the city you grew up? Yeah so I grew up in New York City, right? In the city you grew up? Yeah, I grew up in Manhattan.

Starting point is 00:46:27 And one of the things about growing up in Manhattan, it's incredibly humbling. Like you never feel. You weren't in the newsies, you weren't in the newsies. I was in the newsies. Were you really? No. I was in the newsies.

Starting point is 00:46:39 Have people asked you that before? No, not yet. Oh, sorry dude. I can't remember when that was, but I love that movie. Good little movie. I think Christian Bale was in that shit. Yeah. Crutchie! That little guy, like, give me the papers! That was my childhood.

Starting point is 00:46:54 I'm just saying, fucking, bullshit, you got a fucking kid on one crutch hiking through fucking I couldn't sell the newspapers. Hiking up the LIC with a fucking sack of newspapers, dude. LIE. LIE. The LIE with a sack of newspapers, man.

Starting point is 00:47:09 But anyway, you just humble constantly. You never feel like you got money. There's always somebody way richer. There's always somebody with a way better job. There's always somebody with a better career. Because you're in the city where the most successful of all the people have. So you never feel like,

Starting point is 00:47:23 you never feel this concern that you were talking about, which is like, oh, if I show this nice thing I have, people will think that I consider myself better than them or something. If you grow up in New York, you never feel that way because there's always someone so much higher than you. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:47:41 There's always some so much more wealthy. So it's just this, there's like a hustle mentality which is like I'm gonna work really fucking hard for as long as I possibly can and I'm gonna try to get some nice shit but I'm gonna earn it. I'm not gonna just have it handed to me. I'm gonna fucking bust my ass.

Starting point is 00:47:56 But when I do get it, I don't feel guilty about it because it ain't even as close as nice as the guy who lives three blocks that way. But I understand like my mom's from Scotland, like fucking, you know, comes from nothing. There's that sentiment of like, you getting something nice, the community could feel like, oh, do you think you're better than us now?

Starting point is 00:48:17 Cause you got this fancy house? Oh yeah, when I was a kid, like if somebody could read, people would call him a f***ing web. You know? Like if somebody brought home a bee on our bus dude, it fucking, you were just a, just a fucking sick homosexual. You know? You fucking, yeah they would beat you up. I mean they would let people ride home on our bus with no shirts on and I'm like, and yeah, I'm like well why don't people have to have shirts on or whatever but it was just like, yeah it was just, yeah I don't know. It's tough, you want to kind of'm like, and yeah, I'm like, well, why don't people have to have shirts on or whatever? But it was just like, yeah, it was just, yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 00:48:46 It's tough. You want to kind of stay like, I don't know, as your life changes, and as you get older, things change, your life gets bigger, and you kind of sometimes want to just stay the same. Like, I think there's parts of moments in my life that I really miss, where I was real comfortable. And I think as your life changes sometimes, it probably is like a new space. What's it been like for you having a child since I know a lot of your special was about it?

Starting point is 00:49:07 Was that something that took away a lot of that just worrying about yourself type of thing? And did it really or is that something that people just say? I'm glad that you asked that second question, but the weird thing about having a kid is it is literally every cliche that anybody has ever said. All right, that's a little Shiloh. Dang, huh? Look, cutie.

Starting point is 00:49:27 Wow, at the beach, rich, huh? What UFC fighter does she look like? Oh, no, hold on. Don't do it. Huh? Don't do it. I mean, we gotta do it. He's a great guy.

Starting point is 00:49:37 But for your wife, you have to say that. She, she, she. She, and this is Nick. You know who it is he's got a fight coming up. Michael Chandler. A little, but he's got a fight coming up Michael Chandler a little But he's fighting Volkanovski. Oh My god, he's a pretty motherfucker That's gotta be a new segment

Starting point is 00:50:04 That's pretty cute Oh little cutie Now I want someone him to hear me say that But there's something very charming about him She's a beautiful young lady That's going to be a great fight, shout out Volk too man I think that is an exciting fight huh Seeing Volkanovsky sing the other night about that

Starting point is 00:50:22 He's got a little voice bro He's got a good voice And it's I know. He's got a good voice. And it's just fun to see his, like, it's so great, I think, if fighters are around long enough where you get to see their personalities, you know? Like, they used to only have to just be so tough, and now they can do that, but also, like, have a bit of showmanship, you know?

Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, we wanna connect to them. But I will, you know, back to the kid is like, it's every cliche you've ever heard, times a thousand. Like, and it's, there's a reason why that exists, I imagine, it's like, it's every cliche you've ever heard, times a thousand. Like, and it's, there's a reason why that exists, I imagine, it's like, we all should have this reaction towards children, right? Like, their smile is the best smile, their laugh is the best laugh,

Starting point is 00:50:52 it's the most incredible experience you've ever had in your life. And there's a little part of you as like a comedian that goes, you know, oh, I'm gonna have these unique takes on being a father. And it is, your takes are so similar to every other person who's ever been a dad, which is, now I see as a beautiful thing.

Starting point is 00:51:08 But yeah, your life gets really small. I can only speak for myself, but I just don't care as much about other things. I wanna spend time with her, I wanna spend time with my wife, as long as they're proud of me and happy with me, that's enough. Anything else is, it's icing on the cake. It feels really good.

Starting point is 00:51:28 The response to the special feels really good. It's amazing. All these people who went through IVF and had a similar journey as us to get pregnant, they talking about it feels really good. But I'll tell you one thing, as long as my wife and baby are happy with me like that's Get some it is an amazing. I hope you experience it man if that's something that you'd like to experience

Starting point is 00:51:52 But yeah, I'd like to have that man. It's cool to hear a parent say that too You know I think that like it's nice to hear a parent say those things about their family Did um it's so cool man. is, also you'll watch it like, it's very, very rare in life you get to see somebody give 100%, like really 100%, and like when you watch them in labor, it's 100%. Really? It's just they're giving everything they possibly can give.

Starting point is 00:52:20 What happens if they just do 80% or whatever, 60%? That baby stays in there, bro. Like we had to do a C-section. We bro. We had to do a C-section. We, my wife had to do a C-section, obviously. I didn't do anything, I just sat there like an asshole. But yeah, it's just amazing what they're willing to do. My wife lost a lot of blood. 50 cent almost.

Starting point is 00:52:40 Literally, it was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's very similar actually I gotta talk to 50 about that is like you basically got a c-section out there in Jamaica, Queens, bro We talked about that No, but but bro it was like she had no energy left. She had no blood in her system left.

Starting point is 00:53:06 And they ask her, they're like, can you do a little breastfeeding for the baby because she needs to eat right now. And then they're like, if you don't have energy, that's fine. She breastfeeds the baby. The second the baby pulls off, this is like after I don't know how long it is, she goes, my wife's like, is she good? And the doctor's like, yeah, she's good. And the second the doctor takes her off, she just closes her eyes and passes out.

Starting point is 00:53:27 But it's like, there's this like primal urge to do anything for that. They'll do anything for that baby. And it is like, yeah, it's a beautiful human experience to watch somebody love something like otherworldly love. And yeah, I think it's a really important part of, if you're lucky enough to be able to do it, it's a really important part of, if you're lucky enough to be able to do it, it's a really important part of the life experience.

Starting point is 00:53:47 It just makes everything small and worthwhile. Yeah. Yeah, dude, thanks for sharing that, man. Sure. What's it like to see your parents interact with your child? So my dad is dementia. I know he's sick, right? Yeah, he's had dementia for a while now, so it's hard for him. We did the intro to your child. So my dad has dementia.

Starting point is 00:54:05 I know he's sick, right? Yeah, he's had dementia for a while now, so it's hard for him. You did the intro to your special. Yeah, that was pretty cool. That was cool, dude. I was wondering, was that tough for you guys to get him to pull it off or it was okay?

Starting point is 00:54:14 You know, it's interesting, it's like he's, like we put the, this is, we filmed that actually at the early part of the tour. I loved how your special started off with the joke because it maybe, it just like, oh, I'm already having a nice time boom I thought it was a great choice. You know I thought it was one of the best I thought it was one of the best I'd seen in a while. Thanks, man

Starting point is 00:54:31 yeah, it was cool to you had the first one we were thinking about we're like should we just start the joke and then like the first thing is I think I go you guys want to hear my favorite New York joke and We could have just cut that line, but there was part of me that went like, if I'm just hanging out with friends, and I go, yo, I got a good joke, you guys, my friends or anybody else in that group will go, yeah, I like hearing a good joke. Like, this is why I'm tuning into a special.

Starting point is 00:54:57 Like, sometimes I feel like the first joke you tell on stage is the most inauthentic. Because it's like, hey, we're gonna do this thing where I talk and you guys just listen and Once we get into it it will all make sense But the first the first 30 seconds or a minute of it is inauthentic in a way unless I honestly tell you hey You guys ready? Yeah, I'm gonna tell you a joke Does that make sense? I've never thought about that before.

Starting point is 00:55:25 Yeah, there's this kind of moment where everybody pretends like they don't know you're about to tell, like they kind of like, there's this weird moment in the beginning. We have to suspend disbelief or whatever it is. Like, what's he going to do? We know what we're going to do. Juggle or yeah, remodel the building? Yeah. Like, I can.

Starting point is 00:55:42 So I don't know. I was like, how do I just make it feel like authentic or natural or whatever? And, um, but yeah, but having my dad do it, the intro is just the coolest fucking thing. And, uh, how many takes do you have to do with dimension? How many, how, what is that like? So that we did a, I mean, he was able to, he was able to knock it out, but we tell him the line right before every single time. Yeah. You know, you just give it up for my son, Andrew Schultz.

Starting point is 00:56:03 Like, and it's, he goes and says it and you could really feel him It was like really beautiful. I'll probably get emotional like but he was like really he really wanted to do it you know, yeah, and like he was he's been a great father, so it's like and He's like trying to remember it, you know and like Yeah, it was just really yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. That's awesome, man It makes me say I kind of not sad, but it makes me know It's beautiful. Yeah, it's something that's real. It's it's beautiful I really saw it. Yeah, you know dude right when I saw that cuz I remember seeing the video that you shared about him

Starting point is 00:56:34 You're gonna play Madison Square Garden Yeah, yeah And it was like that was like something that everybody could relate to and yeah when I saw it It was like cuz yeah, I don't know he He was, he was, I keep saying was, which is fucked up, but like, he had a really shitty dad that like wasn't there for him at all. And he didn't have me until like late, but he like, he never said this,

Starting point is 00:56:56 but like he made a decision that he was not gonna let that happen again. And he was just like, he was just there for everything. Like every, I don't know what it's like to not have a dad there for everything. Which is an amazing privilege, don't get me wrong. But like, it was just so important to him to like, let's go throw a base, let's play some basketball,

Starting point is 00:57:16 like whatever you want, I need help with homework, like whatever it is. And, and you know, he has his dimension. I feel like every time I see him, I just hope he knows that he was incredible. And that I'm nowhere close to where I am without that. All my confidence comes from him. Wow. Every bit of self-belief, anything is just,

Starting point is 00:57:40 there's this guy who's believed him. Yeah, is there a part of you, like as so as dementia, I guess someone's like, so who someone is starts to kind of disappear a little bit? Yeah. Is that a fair way to say it or not? I would say like your short-term memory goes away. So I guess memory's broken up into long-term memory

Starting point is 00:57:55 and short-term, and for someone to get into long-term, it just needs to be repeated. So he has his long-term memory. He like knows the map of New York. He can like go around the city, but he might forget like what he's going to do. But he knows how to get home. But if we took him to Florida,

Starting point is 00:58:10 he wouldn't really know how to get around. And then short-term, it's like he doesn't really know, he'll have a conversation with you, and then he'll kind of forget and he'll bring it back up. He has a few things that he'll talk about. But I will say that, the concern is, when this happens, is that something underneath is bitter and angry and he just becomes this resentful human being.

Starting point is 00:58:34 But he's pure, man. He's just a pure, loving, good soul. So he gets to find out every time I see him that he has a granddaughter. And that's pretty awesome. You know? So there's a little positive perspective find out every time I see him that he has a granddaughter. Yeah. And like, that's pretty awesome. That is pretty cool. You know? So there is a little positive perspective that you can,

Starting point is 00:58:49 all you can do is change perspective on shit. So like, I can tell him every single time, I was like, yeah, I got a daughter. He's like, what? Oh my god. What's that like? You know? And like, so that's cool to tell him.

Starting point is 00:58:59 That's cool. Yeah, yeah. That's got to be super cool. Yeah, it is. Is there any fear that like, as a part of him, like that the part of him inside that will forget that you care about him? Is that like, does that make any sense kind of?

Starting point is 00:59:12 The fear is that I haven't communicated to him Enough. Enough how incredible a job he did. And I don't even know if that's important to him. Right, because I don't think- It's important for you to know it. Yeah, like it's important to me that he knows that he's the GOAT. And's important for you to know it. Yeah, like it's important to me that he knows. Yeah. That he's the GOAT.

Starting point is 00:59:26 And like, he might not know that. Like, he's, and it's interesting, it's so interesting. Like, yeah, like it's, yeah, it's just so interesting. Yeah, yeah, it's like, you just want them to know. Yeah. But then I realized now after having a kid, like before I had a kid, I thought he was doing everything just for me.

Starting point is 00:59:47 Like he was doing things that he might not actually want to do, but he's like, I'm going to be there for my kid. And now that I have a kid, you get so much joy. Oh, you realize, oh, he was. Bro, it's this beautiful relationship where like you can selfishly be a good dad. Like taking my kid to the Museum of Natural History the other day was more fun for me than her

Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah, watching her look at a wooly mammoth. You know like and just have her fucking mind blown You know she just she's looking at this. She's looking back at me. She's like what the fuck is this? And it was just and I'm like we got to go to the museum every week like whatever there is this beautiful We're like your selfishness benefits your kid Ah, it may be if you have a healthy relationship. I know there's like unhealthy shit right right, too But I see what you're saying so then it's like now It's like there's no way he couldn't ever know how much I care about him because it almost doesn't even matter because he cares about Me so much as a dad you care about your kids so much that as long as they're okay

Starting point is 01:00:43 That's then everything else is it. Like is that kind of what you're saying a little bit? Yeah, you would hope. I mean, I mean, again. Right, I know there's a lot of instances it's not the case. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I would just, yeah, I would hope, I hope that's the case. Like he battled with depression a lot.

Starting point is 01:00:57 You know, like my family's got a lot of mental illness in it, right? Oh yeah. So like, so he battled with depression a lot and so it's just, you know, like, you don't know what to do when you're a kid about that Like I used to take him to the comedy cellar before I ever did comedy I was like I thought that like if you laugh you're not depressed like that's how I thought it worked So I'd take my depressed ass dad to the comedy cellar little did I know he's just listening to depressed comedians

Starting point is 01:01:19 He's probably getting more depressed He's struggling his life he got a listen He's sad ass comedians on stage Shitty their lives like this kid is gonna kill me But hey if it makes his son happy Damn they almost killed himself He's doing it for me! Damn near almost killed himself! Half the comedians

Starting point is 01:01:46 You're doing it for him and he's doing it for you That's fucking hilarious dude He's like God he's fucking sitting there He's fucking just rubbing over Just drinking a pollen spray Just looking for the vein So

Starting point is 01:02:02 But yeah it's just Dude what a fascinating thing that he's doing it, that, what a unique way to think of a crossroads of a father and son, that he's doing it for me and I'm doing it for him. That's kind of fascinating. You don't know, like, you just don't know how it works when you're younger.

Starting point is 01:02:18 Like, you don't even know, like, the effects of depression or these types of things, you know? Especially in his era, like 20 years ago, he had no idea, even 30 years ago. Yeah, no idea You're just like go Rodney likes to fucking sit in the car by himself My dad would go sit in the car by himself for a couple hours And my mom is moving well if you get out of your fucking car like he wants to be out there The man in our town used to park their trucks

Starting point is 01:02:46 behind the wind dixie and cry back there sometimes. And you'd see him just fuckin', you know, you'd see a guy open his car doors to let a bunch of tears fall out and then close it back. Like, it was fuckin'- Yo, there is bravery to that, though. That's the thing that, like, I think we look back at that generation

Starting point is 01:03:01 who was really trying to figure out how to deal with their mental health and They stiff upper lip did and I think a lot of times we go. Oh, they just ignored the problems It's like no no you can't ignore depression. It's not something you could ignore You know I mean it's there and what they did is they said you know what? I'm gonna go to my fucking car, and I'm gonna cry and I'm gonna get back And I'm gonna be a dad I'm gonna be a husband and I'm gonna take care of his family and it's like and I'm gonna get my fucking son of Pistons Jersey

Starting point is 01:03:32 And you know even a Pistons fan like that's depressing too you wanted so badly for this good to be a mix man Yeah, yeah, it's a... I'm glad you can have all that, dude. That's super cool. Yeah, it is really cool, man. It is really cool. What do a mechanic and an auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona,

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Starting point is 01:08:06 Like here's something I realize is I would always call my wife when I know that the baby's waking up from a nap let's say I'm at the studio or something like that and I call and I'm you know, and she knows I'm calling to see Shiloh, right and I once I called my wife and then she was coming back from like a workout class or something. And she was like, oh, I'm not home yet. So I'm not with Shiloh. And my heart sunk because I was like, oh, fuck. Like you don't even think I call for you anymore.

Starting point is 01:08:37 So in my effort, you know, to just like connect with my daughter in every possible way I can, I am forgetting about my connecting with my wife sometimes. And your wife doesn't want to be angry at you for that because she's like, thank God I have a dad who's so committed and just in love with their kid, but you can't forget about them. So it's like this constant adjustment.

Starting point is 01:08:57 You go, okay, all right, I gotta put. Like, hey, Shiloh, is your mom home? That kind of thing. I gotta call Shiloh. I gotta go in the nanit. I gotta call Shiloh. Yeah. I gotta go on the nanet. Yeah. I gotta call. I got two phones.

Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah, you gotta put some Kevin Gates in there. I'm not kidding. When they're nursing, dude. And Shiloh is a little phone. The other most interesting man in America. He's spitting Kevin Gates bars. Shiloh has a little phone. She's like, brrr.

Starting point is 01:09:19 Hey, mom's right here. Oh, you don't want to talk to me? Yeah, she's starting to get like. She's got me attitude. No, you can't, man. You just want to talk to me So yeah, you got to do that That's crazy. Yes. Wow, dude. What a neat journey and I was just impressing your special like you're just going it's like You know when I first watched you were such a power. I remember the first time I ever saw you at the black baby or what's it called the one that's next door the Comedy Store? Fat black pussy cat that black pussy cat right and

Starting point is 01:09:57 Village underground maybe maybe maybe that one yeah, it was one that kind of has the tears in it a little bit Yeah, yeah, village underground. Yeah, but dude. I was like I'd never seen I was like oh my god And I didn't go up after you dude. It was so fucking scary, and I was like sure'd never seen I was like oh my god And I didn't go up after you didn't was so fucking scary, and I was like I'm sure you killed that shit I did okay, but dude Then this is so much and that was grabbing but that was just I mean that was probably ten years ago Yeah, but then um yeah This was just so like taking me through this story in the journey, and it was um. I don't know it's cool to see it felt like Grown up a little bit. Yeah, it's just different like I never been personal in my in my comedy I didn't even think my life was interesting so I felt like grown up a little bit. Yeah, it's just different. Like I'd never been personal in my comedy. I didn't even think my life was interesting.

Starting point is 01:10:27 So I was like, yeah, I was like, I thought my opinions on shit were more interesting in my life, so I was like, I don't need to tell you about what's going on in my life. And then this thing happened where we couldn't get pregnant and it was because of me, my sperm sucked. No way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:10:43 So my sperm. What happened? So you take them into the- I'm the face of shitty sperm,. No way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my sperm. What happens, you take them in the- I'm the face of shitty sperm, bro. Oh. Damn, dude. You felt bad for a second, you're like, hold on. Yeah. Well, it's just crazy,

Starting point is 01:10:54 because you have that like spice trader energy. Yo, you wanna know some crazy shit? My boy is a spice trader. This guy I play paddle with, all right. This is my boy, we call him Spiceman. We legit thought he was a drug dealer for so long, because he says like I'm a spice trader. Like he makes little jokes about it that he's not joking. He'll show up late to a game and he'll be like, man, Sesame was down crazy today. I couldn't find a place to store it. And then he'll say, coriander options?

Starting point is 01:11:21 Yes, yes. It's literally like a stock stock market like he's back and forth from India So we're like, there's no way this is his real life Like he sells fentanyl or cocaine or some shit, right and he's just saying it's turmeric, right? So But turns out this motherfucker is a legit 2025 spice trader. This is like the oldest job ever. We ride here. Yeah, dude, that's it, bro. We ain't going anywhere. We ain't going anywhere. We from the past, baby.

Starting point is 01:11:52 How crazy is that? Shout out to Pete, man. Spicy Pete. We call him Spicy Pete. Yeah, dude, Spicy Pete. That's great. That's a be a dope ass job. Just hitting the streets with what you want. He'll just hit me with random spice facts. Thyme, cumin. He's like, bro, you can't store the cumin with the turmeric, right? Just hitting the streets you what you want you got to be fucking he'll just hit me with random spice facts I'm cumin yeah, he's he's like bro

Starting point is 01:12:07 You can't store the cumin with the turmeric right because one goes old and I'm like oh yeah, of course He's got storage shit is crazy out there. You know yeah ten our fathers right now Can't be doing that yeah, what is that like you confess it in a confessional you get a punishment What is that like you confess it in a confessional? Oh, you get a punishment What oh dude you did the wrestling thing was that interesting oh that was so cool man, it's cool you did a good job Thanks, bro. It looked uh it looked was it scared. I thought you're gonna get slammed. Yeah, like yeah Is that an option he was about to I didn't even know it was gonna happen you didn't know I didn't know anything It was gonna happen I'm just there hanging out then Logan starts that you know get me to try to lie in front of I didn't even know it was gonna happen. You didn't? No, I didn't know anything was gonna happen.

Starting point is 01:12:45 I'm just there hanging out, then Logan starts to, you know, get me to try to lie in front of all my people in Master's Square Garden. I wanna see AJ stop, that's why! Let's go! Let's go! Oh! This shit is...

Starting point is 01:13:00 Oh, damn! This is, I mean, doesn't look like I'm prepared for that? And his, what's his finishing move? The tax evasion? That's the next move. We gotta move to Puerto Rico. The Puerto Rican W9, that's his fucking finishing move. Oh my god, dude, does he sling? Maybe I didn't see this. No, thank god AJ Styles comes in to save my ass.

Starting point is 01:13:29 He'd have come in a couple seconds later. I'd be toast in front of my wife. Did part of you want a little more smoke after that? Like was there a little bit inside of you that's like... I need justice, bro. I need justice. You can't come do that shit to me in Madison Square Garden, my home. Talk crazy to me You know I need I need some I need some paper, but I need my get-back

Starting point is 01:13:49 You know who Aaron the plumber is Aaron the plumber. I think we had him on the podcast. Did you have Aaron on the pod? I think so like 20 years ago like for like yeah like three years ago. I think no no no This is that we had a different Aaron the plumber. We had Joe the plumber Joe Joe the plumber You know you needed Aaron on Aaron the plumber, bro bro This guy's an absolute internet in one of the pipes Joe found an offspring In one of the pipes what is that that horrible time to say that no, that's a that's a Patrice joke It is he said I jerk off so much in the shower. I'm surprised the drain ain't pregnant Joe is like it was

Starting point is 01:14:24 I think I'm working at your place. Know who's Aaron the Plumber? Oh, dude, this guy is. Cool guy? Oh my God. He was on this Zeus Network show. Do you know what the Zeus Network is? Uh-uh.

Starting point is 01:14:36 Is it like that stars or whatever, like Ghostbook Phantom, whatever? Nah, this is more ratchet, bro. But Aaron the Plumber, you're not qualified. This guy is a certified, hilarious dude., but but Aaron the plumber you're not qualified This guy is a certified hilarious dude. He's an actual certified plumber, but he's hilarious on this dating show and He was just you know he would get in a fight with anybody who pops shit. He's like alright. Let's go We we fight right now, but he's also hysterical mm-hmm and So yeah, he's just an internet sensation. I this guy. Dang, I haven't seen him.

Starting point is 01:15:07 I gotta check him out. Who did I see recently? Gunno Lavish, have you seen him? No, who's that? Young kid. He like, he makes me laugh, huh? He's out of Mississippi, man. Gunno Lavish. You can see the text went out of him. If you just go to shorts right there

Starting point is 01:15:27 Start it over Everything gonna be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong Stay strong boy nigga You wonder if everything gonna be okay. It will be okay if you just stay strong Okay, get me one more of that. Oh me a, oh, stop being humble, FN over there. Try that one. Ha ha ha ha ha. You out here being humble when everybody popping that shit. It's time you start popping your shit in.

Starting point is 01:15:56 Ha ha ha ha ha. Stop being humble, fuck nigga. Ha ha ha ha ha. You out here being humble when everybody popping that shit. It's time you start popping your shit. He just made me laugh, man. He's out of Mississippi, man. I just like his thing.

Starting point is 01:16:14 He's just somebody I started watching. You know, there's like people you see and they come up, and then once you watch them a couple times, and you keep having to watch them, you know? I'm obsessed with it. It's crazy, dude. I'm obsessed with Temptation Island, Spain. Really?

Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. I could see that. Yeah, it's crazy. This is the craziest reality show I've ever seen in my entire life. This guy Montoya, have you not heard of the Montoya guy? Mm-mm. Oh my God, isn't crazy. So basically, Temptation Island, the idea is you and your girlfriend go to this island

Starting point is 01:16:41 and you split up and then they send people to try to fuck you and try to fuck your girlfriend To see if you'll cheat and where the people from the mainland or whatever I think you're all from they're all from Spain pretty much for some of maybe from other Spanish-speaking countries But everybody speaks Spanish so this one couple she that girl right there Anita Anita gets just banged out I think five days in by this other dude, and he's got a watch So there's this other watch as part of so bro You can so they just cuck in my man Montoya, but Montoya is so charming that it that you actually don't look at him Like a cuck you're like, oh, this is he's like a flamenco singer

Starting point is 01:17:15 He's the man so he gets really emotional about watching the guy just beat cheeks on his girl Oh, yeah, and this seems like modern-day Shakespeare almost, you know on his girl. Oh, yeah. And this seems like modern day Shakespeare almost, you know? Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm talking about kind of? Yeah. There's very much a thing where like.

Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah, yeah, it's a fella, really. Yeah, when the figure would be like, it would open up a portal in your head where you thought this, your wife was cheating and you would keep your own life or something. Wow. So there it is. So like he's got to watch this security cam footage

Starting point is 01:17:42 and you could like hear like pelvis hit cheeks. No like this Yeah, it's brutal but it's also fantastic TV God, I've never seen that. It's amazing like and I haven't watched the whole episode I just watched like whatever highlights get clipped and put on my tick tock or Instagram I think that's how I consume everything. Yeah yeah, everything I possibly can, I consume. Yeah. Well, it's funny, because you start to want to have like an information diet.

Starting point is 01:18:09 So there's things that you can talk about with different guests or whatever. That's what I heard Mr. Beast say. Like he hires people to have an information diet. For him. So they all absorb stuff, then they filter it down. And then he gets like this stuff from them that's like fine tuned to exactly

Starting point is 01:18:21 what he would want to know the most. Oh wow. And that's crazy. So he has like a human version most. Oh wow. And that's crazy. So he has like a human version of Chad GPT. Yeah. So he has intelligence intelligence. Yep, like real intelligence.

Starting point is 01:18:31 He has like an algorithm that's, yeah, he's like a human kind of algorithm, you know? Yeah. Sort of, I guess. So he's outsourcing his like interests. How do you run it back against those Paul guys, I wonder? How do I run it back against Logan? Or, I wonder? How do I run it back against Logan? Or Jake as well, get Jake involved as well? Dude, I would fucking, if I saw those people in my dreams,

Starting point is 01:18:52 I would beat the shit out of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good caveat right there. That's a very good caveat. Now Logan needs to get it back. Logan needs to get, Logan needs to get some get back. That's the reality. You can't come into my place and do that, obviously.

Starting point is 01:19:05 But, you know, Jake, I don't even know if Jake's gonna be involved in wrestling, you know? He's doing his boxing thing. But, let's see what happens, I don't know. You never know. You never know with these things. What about you, you gonna get involved in some wrestling? I don't know, dude.

Starting point is 01:19:20 I thought about trying to wrestle one of those guys. I would have to really stretch and focus on fitness Yeah, yeah, 100% out there really stretch and focus on it, or you could just get dragged through the ring like I did Not work at fitness at all, you know, you know, is it the craziest part of that see you end of it I got dragged over to banister rag dolled on the ground rolled into the ring Bent over and put into a suplex this other dude AJ saves me After Logan leaves I jumped on a top rope

Starting point is 01:19:53 Like I did something Just get my ass kicked and still go on Celebrate it really goes back to exactly what we're saying earlier if all people see is that clip of you on the top rope They're like this guy won. So I'm like I might never do this again. I'm not gonna knock something the top rope Come on. I gotta tell my daughter something That's classic man. Yeah, have you thought about over the years of moving out of New York? I know you were talking about the taxes and stuff in there and yeah I don't know like I see have you ever thought about going on Austin You ever think about that not living there. No. No, I mean like look

Starting point is 01:20:27 It's it's fucking incredible what Joe's done down there like it's incredible It's kind of crazy that it almost feels sometimes like the like another scent It definitely feels like another new center of comedy which they didn't have five years. I can't believe I'm gonna say what I'm saying right now Because obviously, you know, New York guys were incredibly biased about stand-up. We're like, the best stand-ups are in New York and this is where you come, you gotta make your bones, this is what you gotta do.

Starting point is 01:20:51 And then the idea was, okay, but if you wanna become like famous, you can go to LA, because that's where the industry is. Somebody's gonna pop into the comedy store, they're gonna see you, you'll be famous. That's at least like the hope or the dreams or whatever. But as of right now, if you're a young comic, right? What is your pathway to success in LA,

Starting point is 01:21:09 if you're a young comic, what's your pathway to success in LA? Perception, doesn't mean that it can't happen, but like in LA or New York, like what shows can you get on that eventually you become famous? Because I know if I'm a young comic, if I can manage to get on Kill Tony and become a regular,

Starting point is 01:21:23 I'm selling out theaters around the country. These guys are selling real tickets. If I get manage to get on Kill Tony and become a regular, I'm selling out theaters around the country. These guys are selling real tickets. If I get into Joe's world and I'm able to go on the podcast a bunch and maybe even go on the road, like, I'm getting a career. I mean, if, to me, it's like we need to start building some infrastructure in New York so these guys feel like there's a pathway to selling tickets. And that's not just New York, that's LA too. Those days of just like getting a role in a movie

Starting point is 01:21:45 and then you sell tickets are done. You doing a TV show, one-off, and then you sell, you don't just sell tickets. You need to be like ingratiating yourself to the people through stand-up comedy if you want to sell stand-up comedy tickets. So I don't blame, I don't begrudge any comic who's like I want to go to move to Austin

Starting point is 01:22:02 because I feel like that's where the thing is happening. Especially if you just moved to New York or LA to make it. I'm from New York, like born and raised in New York. So like moving to another city is like leaving my whole family, my friend group, it's everything I know. Right, you're leaving your world. Oh, there you go, that's what I was thinking, I guess.

Starting point is 01:22:21 Oh my God, I do kinda look like that motherfucker. Diego Pena, what's his name man? He's a Garcia. He looks ugly next to Christian Bale, and he's not even that ugly, bro I'm saying he looks like me so I can't be insulting him that much but Christian Bale is one fucking handsome guy Well, then imagine if this safe is another even did he AI my face onto that I did this is face So that ugly next to Christian Bale That motherfucker is handsome look at Bruce Wayne right there dude. God. Nah, he's a stud. Oh He's a stud

Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, and I'm worse looking than you so the tough part is it only goes another step downhill. Yo, how fucked up is that me insulting him before I knew it was me? Like, isn't that... that's insanity right there. It is. I mean, it's the- Where's my self-esteem at? I don't know. Yeah, what- Don't come here for it.

Starting point is 01:23:16 I don't know. I built this railroad on low self-esteem, dude. Have you ever heard of the low self-esteem engine? No, I haven't. That's the only thing that's run on these tracks for yearsesteem dude. Have you ever heard of the low self-esteem engine? No, I haven't. That's run on these tracks for years dude. We're picking up, we're picking up steam, but it's been slow. Oh God. What are we talking about though?

Starting point is 01:23:36 Oh, the scene. So it's just like, I imagine every... Oh yeah, the scene. I mean think about it, obviously we're in different positions, right? Like we're in a different part of our career where we can live wherever we want. Right, we're not coming out, it's not the beginning of our career. Exactly. So, but if you were young and you're like,

Starting point is 01:23:51 my pathway to success, like what, if you go to LA, what shows do you get on to eventually make it? Like what is your? Right, well there's a couple things. One, you can get a lot of, there's a lot of like influencers and stuff out here. So there's a lot of like social media influencers. That stuff is real out here. There's movie stars of influencers and stuff out here. So there's a lot of social media influencers.

Starting point is 01:24:06 That stuff is real out here. There's movie stars that live out here, and there's television shows. But I don't know if a lot of stuff still shoots in LA, which is kind of crazy. Even whenever we shot this little movie with Spade there, we were like, people were like, thank you guys so much.

Starting point is 01:24:21 For working here. We haven't had work in months. And I'm like, what do you mean? Cause I don't know who shoots what, you know? They're like, yeah, I'm like, in Hollywood, you haven't had work in months? And yeah, I guess there's just nothing shooting here, which seems crazy that you would build an industry

Starting point is 01:24:37 where then nothing even shoots within it, you know? Like at a certain point, you can't cut every corner, like, okay, we're gonna shoot out of state to get a tax break. And the tax incentives are really big. You can shoot up in Canada. You can shoot up in over in Atlanta. Like the tax incentives are huge to go shooting these places. The one when California matched them, it seems like, I think like, like, it's just

Starting point is 01:25:01 like we were saying, like politics is always down river from, from culture. So they're going to have to learn the hard way They're gonna have to see the industry actually start to be negatively impacted like for a while And then they're gonna have to vote out whoever's in power With that kind of influence, but LA thrives on Hollywood like there isn't LA without Hollywood Like that that's the industry. That's true, I guess then it's kind of like Barcelona or something in a way. You know, some cool museums and it's beautiful.

Starting point is 01:25:31 We don't even know you guys have museums out here, I'm being honest with you. Like somebody told me that. They're like, oh yeah, we were spending some time in museums, I was like, you got museums out here? Like I thought you had that observatory ship that's up on the hill and that's it. We don't know that you have like the theater,

Starting point is 01:25:44 like do you have plays that come out in LA? I have no idea. Like can you watch Hamilton in LA ever? I don't know, it's a good question. Well we don't really have that district, like the theater district that New York has. I mean Danny McBride was saying this the other day, he goes, you know I've always been kind of amazed

Starting point is 01:26:00 that LA doesn't like historicize itself better as a structure. He's like, when you go down the street here, you should be, every other building should be, this is where- This was films. Right. Yeah. This is where Sidney Portier lived the first three years

Starting point is 01:26:16 that he lived here in this apartment. Like, you know, like in this, these buildings we've kept them because they're, and some of it is still the same because, you know, you don't have as much wear and tear from the elements here Outside of like the fires recently you don't have just like the constant salt salt in the air like you do in a lot of places but um But overall he's like yeah, I'm just kind of amazed that you don't go down the street and every other building is historical for some reason

Starting point is 01:26:38 Bro, I think that's a fantastic point because that is the coolest thing About LA Hollywood is like old Hollywood culture right like there's that hotel the Sunset Tower or whatever And like it has this cool restaurant that feels like old house. Yeah, it's cool in there It's some fancy bougie shit, but it still feels like I can imagine directors in like the 60s Yeah, you know you know what is that? What is that fucking girl with this the air blowing her dress up? Oh Shirley Temple or whatever Marilyn Monroe Yeah, exactly I'd like to that stricken Well, dude, I'll say somebody the Here's the number one place and I'm sorry

Starting point is 01:27:26 Who's the girl where her dress was blown up? It's LA Weinstein's innocent I didn't think if they're blowing anybody's dress up it's gonna be a child obviously When people come to visit me then one place that I take them every time literally the tour stop is a cemetery That's near my apartment in Westwood that has Marilyn Monroe's grave in it Hugh Hefner Errol Flynn. Oh wow Carol O'Connor the guy from Bad Grampa or whatever

Starting point is 01:28:02 Bad Gramp or whatever It's just like you just show them like this, you know, that's kind of the neatest thing I think I think that's I think it's a great point because there is cool historical shit about LA But you got to embrace it and then protect it and I think that Maybe it's just such a new city They don't see the value in it Like we you and I are from very kind of like old places in terms like of American history, not world history, but like there's a lot of history in,

Starting point is 01:28:31 I'm gonna give you, I know you're not from New Orleans, but like just this idea of, Oh yeah. There's like, and it's important to us to maintain that. We actually like the way that the buildings look. When a new fancy building goes up in New York, there's always this immediate rejection. We're like, oh, these fucking glass, there goes the neighborhood or the buildings look. When a new fancy building goes up in New York, there's always this immediate rejection. We're like, ah, these fucking glass,

Starting point is 01:28:46 there goes the neighborhood, or whatever it is. So we try to protect, and I feel like LA is so transient. Like, everybody that comes here is coming from Maine, or coming from Montana, or some shit like that, to go make it. So they don't really care that much about the history. They're like, what's going on now? But the people from here, like Dove,

Starting point is 01:29:04 like the people who actually grew up here and like that is the industry Yeah, I would I would like to see that protected. That's a great point And then there's another version of you coming out here. That's not like a TMZ tour bus tour Whatever that stupid shit is right. This is the Rocks house It's like nah go see where fucking Sidney Pote a lived or go see where these historic actors like what's his face his first apartment Jack Nicholson's first apartment So cool if they had that and yeah under they had it like really locked in do the guy the founder of Cane's this guy Todd Graves. Yeah, he still has his college apartment that was right next door to the First Cane's that's in Baton Rouge and you go in there dude, and it is crazy

Starting point is 01:29:43 It's like it's from 30 years ago You know or 20 22 years ago or something. It's just like old TV. He's maintained everything maintained It all sit in there pictures from back then and shit his life got busy And so he just wasn't there for like eight years And then he came back and it's just like magazines like Jordan and Shaq on just fuck. He's a beast that guy Yeah, he stays so busy works really hard. I think he owns all of the canes still right this is not a franchise restaurant I think he knows it's kind of it's unbelievably impressive and maybe because I'm from New York We just got one there's one that just popped up in these village

Starting point is 01:30:15 But like I was talking to a buddy of mine Who's actually like one of his lawyers, and he was kind of explaining it to him. It's like This guy's like a real ambitious like kind of genius To put that together. It's it's it's very hard to not sell off your company as it becomes successful To have that vision like I don't know if you're like this But if I'm building something that's successful and then someone offers me 300 million dollars for it. I'm like There's some people are crazy enough to go now this shit is really worth two billion. I'm like two billion What is two billion dollars even?

Starting point is 01:30:49 What is that money even you know I mean? There are people that say no to one billion dollars because they know it could be worth five That's isn't that crazy easy. What do you need that for yeah? Like you can tap out of whatever you're doing Maybe they really love what they're doing. Maybe that's it, but then you just sell it and get locked in as a Consultant or whatever yeah, yeah, I guess you could but maybe they would hate that maybe like they're like It's my genius that drives this this this this this car It's like that rigor mortis whatever the Frank whoever made Frankenstein or the doctor or whatever he wanted to die with Frankenstein He's like you know I think that's what happened with Frankenstein. I fucking know what happened

Starting point is 01:31:29 I was dr. Frankenstein, and then it was the creature. Yeah, that's isn't that crazy that we think that Frankenstein is the lifeless animal you know It was actually the doctor But it was actually the doctor Imagine how he feels He's like what do you hey, my name is Rick. You know it's like nobody fucking I'm fucking Rick Hopkins. You know I had a fucking bad Frontal lobe surgery give me some good goddamn

Starting point is 01:32:07 It still goes back to you see a clip or something You just believe it You just believe it, yeah That motherfucker's name is not even Frankenstein Yo, it's called Creature Which is way more adept, right? Like that feels like the name for it, but not But at least that's his name God, dude Yeah Yeah shout out Frankenstein. Yeah dude. Oh how's the Trump thing going over in New York dude? You know what's so interesting is

Starting point is 01:32:35 like uh. It was crazy how right after the election was over everybody's kind of went on about regular life kind of. Bro it's and like now I'm almost like annoyed by it. I'm like I thought we weren't gonna have to go through this again like Like, I don't know where, how it is like here, where you're, where you're living, but we're back to like the bipartisan bickering, you know, like, like this doge is a big deal, right? Even though there's no American that wants like waste, there's no American that wants like government bloat, there's no American that wants like inefficiency. I don't think any of us are like voting for those three things. There's no American that wants like waste. There's no American that wants like government bloat. There's no American that wants like inefficiency. I don't think any of us are like voting

Starting point is 01:33:08 for those three things. So this should be like unilateral support. Like we should all get behind it. And maybe the way that they're doing, I think Trump even came out and be like, yo, we're gonna use a scalpel, not a hatchet. Like I think we're being a little bit too forceful with the firings or whatever.

Starting point is 01:33:22 But this is one of those things where like it's so annoying. And I think you can blame Elon for this as well. On Twitter he's a little bit antagonistic about shit. I noticed that recently. Some of the stuff he says, do you have to say that? What are you doing right there? You're in power now. I think you have to have a little bit different energy

Starting point is 01:33:37 when you're in power. I think when you're not in power, you're trying to get to power. Maybe that antagonism is helpful, right? It can embolden the base. But you're the leader now. Leaders don't need to poke a finger, like twist a knife or whatever.

Starting point is 01:33:51 Well, I think what he's doing, I believe that what Elon is doing is, by creating all that commotion on Twitter, it's only helping his own business, right? So it creates, now that everybody's, everyone wants to see what he's gonna say, but he's saying so many things, it's hard to even juggle, but so many people are engaging and interacting. I feel like it's probably the number one news app I don't know always been the number one news app has to be

Starting point is 01:34:12 It has to be yeah, I mean don't you learn during his own business It's like yeah, so the more he does that it just then it's more impressions the more ads that he can sell right? I don't know if that's true But you're basically creating a place for people to go consume content in general, and if he's the biggest creator on that platform, then it makes sense that he continues to create. So you're saying that he's not doing this

Starting point is 01:34:35 just to get out information, but he's also doing this to uplift the app. It's like a hype machine, yeah. Oh wow, that's a good take. I don't know if that's true. But that's the feeling you get from it. I'm at least, because otherwise, it's kind of, some of this shit's kind of insane.. But that's what the feeling you get from it. I'm at least, cause otherwise it's kind of, some of this shit's kind of insane.

Starting point is 01:34:46 It's like, what is this like? How is he doing all of these things? And if he's not doing all these things, cause who could have time to do all of this, then who is doing it? And it's kind of annoying because he's a genius. You want him on your side. Like I want the guy who makes the rockets on America's side

Starting point is 01:35:04 if we go to World War III. Right. Like I think that's a pretty good idea that we get the guy who's gonna send a ship to Mars on our side if we're gonna have like drone warfare throughout the world. Like let's keep him in our good graces. I do think, and I'm a little bit more optimistic

Starting point is 01:35:19 about this administration. That's what I've realized with most people, like sane people, is it, if you don't, if you didn't vote for Trump But you're not like a like a complete like lunatic extremist on Both sides by the way if you're just kind of like a normal regular guy But you feel like you lean left a little bit more you go You just are pessimistic about the administration and if you lean maybe right a little bit more

Starting point is 01:35:42 But you're not some insane like right wingack, you're optimistic about the administration. We both kind of want the same thing. We want the best thing for American people. We might disagree about where we get there, but we do want the most opportunity, wealth, ease of living for American people. So when it comes to the administration, I'm a little bit more optimistic about it.

Starting point is 01:36:03 I'm like, okay, let's just see how this works. Right, that's how I feel. Let's just give them a, give them a, people are going, oh, he's doing all these tariffs. It's like, my man, I'm not an economist. I know you aren't an economist. I don't know if this is a negotiation. Like if you go to buy a car and the car is like 100 grand and you go in, you go, all right, I'm going to offer 80 grand, right? right knowing that they're gonna settle around 90, right?

Starting point is 01:36:29 The problem is when you do that you do that in privacy with the car dealer Trump got to do it publicly and now he's got people in his own country going how dare you offer 80 That's so disrespectful, and he can't come out and go dumbass. We're gonna settle at 90 I just got to start at 80 so could you give me fucking two weeks they don't give him any nobody gives him a beat to see what the long-term plan is like if you want manufacturing jobs back in America then you have to make it so that it makes more sense for people to make cars in America maybe that's just business like I agree with you I would I never was like against Biden

Starting point is 01:37:05 I've never been against anybody that's been office. I've always just wanted the best. It's like I want the best I'm never gonna depend on the government for my life Like I don't wake up every day and see what the fucking government's doing I get out of bed and I try and take care of myself or you know, you know Take care of your family like you're doing it's like that's probably what most people think Yeah, anybody that has time to argue online all day is also insane right like Not saying that we don't all put our beliefs out there sometimes, but I hear what you're saying, but it's like

Starting point is 01:37:31 But you have to like that's one thing somebody said the other night Oh Trump said it during that that whole like state of the whatever the Delegacy address yeah, it was it was like the state of the two parties are dressing with the if you got to watch the hour And half of that. I don't care what side of it. This shit was hilarious. It was like Somebody who wrote like noises off or something. It was just a fascinating joint congressional committee's address or whatever Yeah, there was like fucking they kept cutting this white to do that was asleep. They threw our green out people thought he was Jimmy snooker Through him out dude, they kept people like Democrats that only had their feelings on little signs It said like not good or gazoon tight or whatever. I bumped into Al Green at the breakfast club

Starting point is 01:38:13 He was going on after me and someone's like hey, who wants to Al Green wants to say hello? I was like, yeah sure that'd be cool. This guy just got chucked out of the fucking Senate I mean whatever and I went I go I I go, and his handle or something like that is waiting there with a camera tucked here for the handshake picture. And I was like, did I just get set up in a photo op to make me look sympathetic to what, I'm like, what exactly is going on?

Starting point is 01:38:38 That's crazy, yeah. Yeah, well, that's also scary when everybody has cameras everywhere now. Yeah, a lot of people thought that was Jimmy Stunker which makes total sense as well. Yeah, I think it's still think it was What a body, huh? Let's get it on Was that that was out green let's get it on Yeah, but yeah, so it's a tricky yeah, it's a tricky it's a tricky time now politically But I just don't like it. You kind of hope, like, hopefully there's some long-term strategy here.

Starting point is 01:39:08 It's like, because if you just look at the little bits, it's kind of fucking scary. Also, if the, if, and I'm not trying to just like bag on the last administration, but like, if people are uncomfortable, and the last administration was running on this platform of, hey, we're gonna keep doing the same thing that we've been doing. And that was a bad plan. You can't really blame Americans for going, well that's not working for me right now,

Starting point is 01:39:32 I gotta try something different. Yeah. And then giving the new thing a little bit of leeway, it's not like, again, I might be more optimistic. And if it goes bad, I will be the first person to criticize it, right? I have no problem criticizing whoever's in power. Okay, this is the easiest thing in the fucking world for me.

Starting point is 01:39:50 But I am hoping, I'm at least gonna give a little bit of grace and hoping that this is gonna work out for all of us. And I'm gonna give it more than a fucking few months. I'm gonna give it a little bit to see where it goes. And if it does go, I'm not gonna be the guy to go, told you so, you fucking idiot. Because that's not the joy that it brings me the joy that brings me is like hey shit

Starting point is 01:40:07 We're actually making some cool change right America's gonna be doing better We got opportunity to you know start here and get up here I imagine if you brought some industries back where people have pride in their homes and in their towns dude I'll tell you this we've gone on this tour. I've been on we've gone to probably 200 the top 200 cities so far size wise rightwise, right? We've gone fucking everywhere. And a lot of the places, man, it's the same. It's like, there's no, there's not a lot of businesses there. There's some cities that have kind of changed

Starting point is 01:40:33 and had some turnaround and it's been uplifting, but there's been a lot of places that it hasn't, you know? And it's sad. It's like, oh, all this place needs is one good, like, influx of people and a purpose, you know? When people have jobs, they have purpose. Yeah, and so it's like, I'm just gonna, I'm for sure gonna stay hopeful. I hope that if there's some tariff stuff and then we start making our own fucking cars here...

Starting point is 01:40:59 Dude, there's a guy who just made a show, a t-shirt, I think it's called American giant. Can you look that up? There's a guy he wanted to make find a t-shirt that was made in America American giant clothing hmm He couldn't even get a t-shirt. There was completely made here. He couldn't get a key couldn't get a Whatever this is called a template or a blank yeah in America. He couldn't there. They didn't have it right They didn't we don't make a fucking t-shirt in this company right country. Yeah, so Don't they make Teslas here? Yes, like Teslas are an American-made car like bare minimum and like I'm not trying to knock any of the American You know other American cars right like but I don't think Ford is entirely made here.

Starting point is 01:41:45 Right. I might be wrong. I don't think they are. You drive Ford, somebody said to me. I'm like, that's when I knew. I'm like, hold on, how's this guy know how to pronounce it? Swedish guy? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but. That's a great question. Let's look that up. Yeah, what cars are made here? What percentage of Teslas are made in America? What percentage of Fords are made in America? That's a great question, man. And I guess that you know, you could be putting together the full car here, but maybe there's like certain factories

Starting point is 01:42:11 They're doing other stuff and I'm okay with that. Like I'm I'm okay with outsourcing to different countries I think it gives them opportunities as well. That's a cool thing. But Tesla claims that nearly 100% of the vehicles that sells in the United States are manufactured domestically. Exceeding the industry average of 52%. Wow. Now that doesn't mean they don't make cars in other countries as well. Right. But the ones that are sold here are made here. Regardless, okay. If we want to attack in a car company, right, and again, I don't know if they're attacking Tesla because they don't like the product.

Starting point is 01:42:44 They're attacking Tesla because they don't like the product. They're attacking Tesla because they don't like the CEO of the company. And that is the risk of being a celebrity CEO. By the way, there's CEOs of, and you talk about this all the time, but some of these pharmaceutical companies, we don't know who the fuck they are. And there's a reason, because if we did,

Starting point is 01:42:57 People would execute them. Something could happen. Something could happen. We don't know. Something could happen. Somebody could throw them a surprise party. Bro, if you have a billion dollar business and nobody knows who you are,

Starting point is 01:43:12 you're doing some fucked up shit, my boy. Yeah, you're doing some fucked shit, man. Right? Some fucked shit, homie, yeah. So. For real. So this is like a kinda shitty situation where like, yes, I understand that he's antagonizing people, he's like rubbing people the wrong way,

Starting point is 01:43:24 you don't like the guy, you don't like the beliefs, you don't like what he's doing, and there are things to criticize. I'm not saying there aren't things to criticize. Like everybody is, nobody's above criticism. But to punish that car company that is 100% made in America, made by people living in America, Americans rely on those jobs,

Starting point is 01:43:43 like maybe we criticize another thing. Right. Like what is your goal? That we shut down those factories and those Americans lose those jobs? That makes you feel better about your gripe with Elon. That's the thing, some people, they just wanna win an argument, it feels like.

Starting point is 01:43:56 And there are people that rely on those fucking jobs. Oh, for sure. They got kids, bro. Oh yeah, oh dude, there's no doubt about it. But here's one thing that I think is sad about Doge, is that the fact that we now have to have someone audit our own government. Our government is supposed to be the thing that we can trust.

Starting point is 01:44:13 It will never end now. And people are like, why is this guy having a team that audits? It's like, I agree, but I'll let anybody audit. If we bring on another company, they audit, and they find, I'd give them 10% of the bloat that they find if they you know I'm saying the simple fact that we now have to audit our Own government. Yeah, I mean I just you know I don't people I think will gravitate towards corruption naturally And I think it's something you constantly have to fight every single second

Starting point is 01:44:39 Yeah, you definitely have to you said something interesting though like this idea like you wake up every morning You're like I don't expect the government to do something for me I think that's a more like southern and frontier belief You know I think that like when you grow up in in like New York There is this relationship with the government like if the roads are fucked up you start going Oh, why the roads fucked up like we're spending all this money in taxes or like the government you're supposed to do it You're giving me all these rules. I got to live by so you might as well do some shit But that's interesting that you have this perspective which is like I don't expect anything from you guys

Starting point is 01:45:13 And I wonder if when they encroach on your freedoms It's that much more annoying because you're like I don't rely on you for anything and you're gonna tell me what to do because you're like, I don't rely on you for anything and you're gonna tell me what to do? Whereas we might be more accepting of the laws and the encroachment of freedoms because we are more reliant on them for certain things. So, and I wonder if that's why like some of the COVID stuff was way easier to accept in big cities

Starting point is 01:45:40 because we already have this symbiotic relationship with government. Whereas in place like Florida or even more other like Southern, Because we already have this symbiotic relationship with government right whereas in Places like Florida or even you know more other like southern maybe I guess some red states not all a lot of rural areas More rural areas. It's like yo listen Don't mess with me because I don't ask you for shit right and now you're getting into my house and telling me what to do When I already don't ask you for anything, but we have one road We keep it clean. Yeah, I drive a truck so you don't have you for anything. Right, we have one road. We keep it clean. It's fine.

Starting point is 01:46:06 I drive a truck, so you don't have to pave it. Yeah, it's fine. That's it. Right, we're doing, yeah. Yeah. That's a good, it is interesting how different areas could affect your perception. And yeah, I think a lot of, one other thing is I think

Starting point is 01:46:19 a lot of people just worry about our tradition starting to disappear, and I think that's where a lot of pushback comes from. What do you mean by that? Just like tearing down of statues and saying that everything is racist and stuff and not honoring our history, whether it is racist or not,

Starting point is 01:46:32 like not, did not, if you take it away completely in three generations, This is the tricky thing where it's like, okay, I try to meet people at their intentions because I often want people to judge me on my intentions when I say some like crazy fucked-up joke that's not even fully fleshed out on a podcast and I want people to go oh he just wanted it to be funny not oh this is guys an evil asshole yeah right so when I see people doing the taking like the progressive measures

Starting point is 01:47:03 that might feel like they're going too far, I at least have some empathy. I go, all right, I know what you're trying to do. You're trying to make this world that we live in, this country we live in, a more comfortable place for everybody. And you're thinking about these oppressed or ostracized groups, and you're like,

Starting point is 01:47:18 how can they not see certain imagery that might remind them of these horrible things that their ancestors went through? So I go, okay, I get that maybe you have some really good intentions here. And then we can meet at that where we go, I get your good intentions. And then we then we start to have then let's have the conversation of okay, how much of that are we going to remove before we start removing like the history of our country. And some of the history is ugly. And

Starting point is 01:47:43 that's, it's unfortunate, but it is the history. Like, removing it doesn't remove the history. Right. But at least not looking at them like they're assholes that want to destroy America. Maybe some of them are, but I think some of them also just kind of want to make life better for people. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:47:58 I don't think everybody's bad. I think there are bad actors on both sides. But I think there's some people who, like, maybe they were bullied a lot as a kid, and they're like, man, I don't want anybody to go through that shit. Like, yeah, I wanna look out for some people and create some more protections.

Starting point is 01:48:11 And sometimes those protections might go like, a little bit too far. And then sometimes, instead of creating protections, people will like, hurt people, hurt people, they'll do the opposite. They'll be like, oh, white people are horrible. It's like, okay, okay, you're going too far. You might have experienced some really fucked up people in your childhood, and maybe you have that way of looking at it,

Starting point is 01:48:29 but it's not going to help if that's your way of communicating with them. Yeah. Yeah, I think the truth is usually kind of in the middle. I think you're right, you know? And the fact that, yeah, it's like, it's so funny. It's like you get so stuck in your own perspective of what your own perspective is, and you need to be in your own perspective because it's a survival thing, too. It's like, if I'm in your own perspective of what your own perspective is and you need to be in your own perspective Because it's a survival thing too It's like if I'm sitting here daydreaming or something and I get attacked by a animal or something that's on me, right?

Starting point is 01:48:51 But it's like But to actually put yourself in somebody else's shoes and think like what it is. What is it really like? Yeah, you know or what is like going through like certain classes or history class or things like that Like if you're a different ethnicity or different sex or something What's that shit really like you know they're supposed to have VR goggles that were supposed to be able to do that You know we could just see what it was like being Native American back in it. Yeah, hey Kind of like they set it up to make it sound like, who really killed the Native Americans? It was Italian.

Starting point is 01:49:26 Christopher Columbus said, look at these guys, hey! Fucking red horse, get over here! Fuck outta here! How many necklaces we gonna wear, huh? You called the night, how about some blankets? Hey! Hey, hey, hey, huh? That would be cool though, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, According to a lot of reddit feeds So Twitter inches they just blame everything on the Jews bro like it's not even shit that you didn't even imagine They're gonna blame Christmas on the Jews

Starting point is 01:50:23 The Jews are impressed but also not cool at the same time What if they're like, you know, can you blame some good shit too? We did some good shit right like y'all like Christianity like you like watching Family Man, don't you? That's one of your favorite Christmas movies Gangs in New York, who do you think fucking put that together? All them Christmas carols? They're probably written by Jews. A lot of them are man. See? It's so funny. Yeah, what are we gonna do?

Starting point is 01:50:49 What um, I'm trying to think of what else is going on dude that I was thinking about. What's up in your life man? Everything's fine man. I've just been just been working a lot you know. Like last year we really focused on if we had some time off to go and Just work like go travel to a place to get guests and stuff you know yeah so it was like a big focus last year to do that and Have you taken like a vacation? No not in a while I was supposed to get one over the holidays, and it just didn't happen Do you like do you like taking time off does that yeah feed you at all yeah?

Starting point is 01:51:23 I need it I need more of it And do you enjoy it like is your time off just hanging at a beach or do you like going to like a city that you're? really interested in like learning about the history like what is what is your version of a It's just been the beach really. I think I've been like I think I just kind of got I just put so much work on the calendar that I didn't start to schedules I would love to take two weeks off and go to like a country or something. That'd be awesome.

Starting point is 01:51:46 You know? Yeah. So, but then I start to think about that, like, well I should probably get a girlfriend or like a fiance first, because if you go by your, who are you gonna, unless you get a buddy to go with or something, that could be fun. But it's like two weeks, you can't really go by yourself really, you know? And so then it's like, what are you gonna do exactly?

Starting point is 01:52:01 I imagine you with like a small Asian tour guide. And that's like, what are you gonna do exactly? I imagine you with like a small Asian tour guide. And that's it. Just you guys motorcycling around Vietnam or Cambodia. Just say shit to them all the time? Knock, knock. Knock, knock. Yeah, that would be ideal. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:18 But not traveling alone is cool too. Cutting them little, feeding them little pieces of yam or whatever. Yeah, I mean you don't have to feed them. You know, they might feed themselves out there The first struggle Bayard went through the first struggle was finding all the components the cotton the buttons the zippers the rivets Once Bayard did all that he ended up with his first product a plain hooded sweatshirt We already know all this stuff

Starting point is 01:52:40 I was looking at what some of the price issues were and stuff that he faced But it was a nightmare for this guy to do it and he couldn't get it done it like you know it came down like $37 or something which is you know which but to do it on a regular basis and then Walmart Decided we're gonna support him. We're gonna give him like a big order That's fire that's kind of where he's at right now You can make a big order you can obviously like reduce the pricing right then you can go ahead to the place to say look Now I'm gonna order this many. Can you give me a better rate? You know so can you get the material from?

Starting point is 01:53:07 Does the material also have to come from here? I imagine we have to get all of our material from other countries That's a good question are we creating textiles here. It's a question It's crazy because you don't know that you know it's like a lot of this stuff We don't even know and then you look around and you're like But if you find out that we can't even you can't even get a t-shirt here Then you're like well fuck if we're not even making one t-shirt then what are we making here? I mean yeah We're completely reliant. It's it's a little scary. I guess that's the thing it starts to get scary because yeah I mean because t-shirts are the

Starting point is 01:53:38 the least Necessary product that we are completely reliant on other countries for yeah, so we're relying on t-shirts, what else are we relying on? Are we relying on technology in some ways? Like what are the things that become like at risk topics for us that we're relying on other countries? Because it's nice to know that you're not reliant. Or that the entire world is reliant on each other. And if everybody's relying on each other, okay

Starting point is 01:54:05 Then there's like a mutually assured destruction, right? Maybe that's good But right just tell us the truth if you we know everything I would just love it if I here's the exact facts You know, when do you think? Alright, you know how like conspiracies are incredibly popular right now and like now everybody kind of knows the conspiracies so the that immediate hit of kind of knows the conspiracies. So that immediate hit of dopamine you get when you share the real truth with somebody who doesn't know it, and when they look at you, they're like, oh my god, you're so smart, or whatever.

Starting point is 01:54:35 Now that everybody knows the conspiracies, do you think that we start, the pendulum starts to shift back to kind of what really happened because the conspiracy is like the most exaggerated version of What happened yeah, and what really happened is probably pretty boring like the truth of most things is probably pretty fucking boring Yeah, for sure. It's not what the media has told us that's for certain those those are lies 100% But it's not what like the reddit historians have said Yeah, and it's probably in here, and then we all go All right, yeah

Starting point is 01:55:12 Like that is I wonder if like there's something like that even to the Epstein list like everybody's waiting for this Epstein list And they're waiting for it to be like direct logs where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal from a 16 year old at Direct logs where it's like Bill Gates paid for anal from a 16 year old at 430 or whatever and then it's like name pictured fucking whatever it is and Every time they hand out like the binder whatever it is nothing that crazy comes out now. Don't get me wrong I believe he's like a prolific pedophile He'd you've mirt like if he's if he is still alive, find him and fucking kill him. The girl too, off anybody who's involved in it, defended it, anybody who's on the fucking flight logs,

Starting point is 01:55:50 put him in prison, like let's, we need some justice here. But have we created an idea of what this is, which is so far removed from what it actually is? Right, and that's why they're like, this is gonna be so upsetting as seven people They don't think they don't think we're liars anyway, right? Like cuz imagine they gave us listen there was like there was like 25 people on it, right? We'd be like man you fucking pieces of shit lying to us again

Starting point is 01:56:16 Like the only thing we would believe if literally every single world leader went in there, right? They did yeah this list better be so that's why I think they're still work They're probably working with top producers, Eli Roth, like guys who really can put on a good show, Todd Phillips, you know? Until, yeah. How do we sell this story to the American people? Until he did Jokertoo, then he was on here like he's off.

Starting point is 01:56:37 But yeah, I think, yeah, how do we, what do we, this better be good. Why don't we just get, this is the way I was thinking, we solved it. The guy who gave who let Epstein manages money is this guy named less Wexner or something like that. He's this guy who started Victoria's Secret Mmm, and like I don't even think Epstein went to college or something So like how the fuck do you end up managing his billionaires money this guy's like 90 years old give him immunity

Starting point is 01:57:04 Just go yeah this guy right here. Les Wexner, okay? He's a billionaire, he's 87 years old. You just go listen, you're about to fucking die. Can you just tell us what happened? Tell us what happened, we'll give you immunity. You don't get to die a hero at all. You're a piece of shit that probably funded

Starting point is 01:57:22 this whole fucking thing or connected different people to different stuff. We don't know what the fuck you're actually all, you're a piece of shit that probably funded this whole fucking thing or connected different people to different stuff. We don't know what the fuck you're actually doing, you're involved. But you don't get to die a, well you still die a bollock of piece of shit. But maybe you do one good thing in your life before you fucking die. Right. And then the American people get some satisfaction, the victims get some satisfaction. We get to actually know what's happening.

Starting point is 01:57:41 Because I don't even know if we, I don't know if we actually will get to know it happening unless somebody Who was involved says it specifically yeah, and I don't believe gilain because I think her pops was he was part of masad Right like so I don't believe anything. She's gonna say so Yeah, nobody's gonna tell the truth Right like I'm just amazed that that many people wanted to be pedophiles or whatever so here's the thing I don't know that's part of me doesn't believe that I'm like I that that many people wanted to be pedophiles or whatever. So here's the thing, I don't know- That's part of me that doesn't believe that, I'm like, you're telling me! I don't think they wanted to. I think that- I think he was like, yo, I got some young bitches on an island, we're all gonna fuck,

Starting point is 01:58:12 but I don't think that he said, I have underage women to incriminate you on an island. Right. I think he's like, yo, I got some 20 year old fucking Russian bitches, they're on an island. And all these dudes were like, oh, we're gonna go party with Russian bitches? Like, I wonder if it's as simple as like some club promoter going I got a table full of girls at towel tonight You want a party and people go well that sounds like a great idea Nobody's idea in those girls right and they for sure on IDM because why would they go yeah? This guy's gonna make me a pedophile this weekend. Yeah, right

Starting point is 01:58:41 Like so and then maybe afterwards they go, by the way, that girl was this old, so I'm gonna need you on a certain day to do a favor. That's how I would imagine it would be most effective. And what if some of the girls were not even underage or anything? You don't even know if you got, you could have somebody say that, you're so scared, you're already like,

Starting point is 01:59:03 there's some favor in the wind that alone the mirage of that Would that's the biggest thing you have no fucking idea. That's a great point, too They're gonna be so scared like well first of all I don't want to see I'm so bad at sex I don't want anybody see a video of fucking a hooker on an island still is bad if you're like a political Figure that has a family you have children like right you could be it could be old They could be old enough, and it's still like, you don't want that out because it ruins your career. So yeah, there are many ways to do it.

Starting point is 01:59:32 That, yeah, I mean, it's definitely, and then it's like, how do you doctor all that up to present it to the American? Because it's a fucking, you have to find, you have to serve a Mona Lisa to the American people. There's, cause there's no, but then they're like, we have to make sure all these people that information that's released, but maybe some of that's true.

Starting point is 01:59:49 If like you put information and has a name in it that you're not sure. And then you get sued by that person. Or you got to protect these girls who are underage and they were raped by these famous people. And like they have moved on with their lives. They got families. Do they want their information out there in the world?

Starting point is 02:00:02 Probably not. They're like, I don't want to relive that shit. So redact me or whatever that term is. But yeah, I just feel like we're at this point where like, if we're going through this phase in America where we're an all time low trust in all of our institutions. And what happens from here? There's two ways we go.

Starting point is 02:00:19 Talk to me. It gets better somehow. Or. Or it starts to devolve even more and crazier. See, it gets deeper and deeper. It's so funny because I've had both feelings yesterday. I had the feeling like, holy shit, dude, nobody's going to know where to trust anything anymore. It's going to get really interesting.

Starting point is 02:00:40 Or you start being honest. Like, that's kind of that's that's why. Right. Or you start being honest. And like kind of that's that's why I like are you start being honest and and like Yeah, we're Americans. We can deal with shit like we've dealt with horrible things before In our past even as humans we can that's it so it's like And I think there's a version where like accepting these things and moving on allows us to have even more pride Accepting these things and moving on allows us to have even more pride Where right now we're in this like age of like ambiguity We're like we want to be really proud, but we're like, but is some of this shit true like we're just unsure Yeah, let us accept it

Starting point is 02:01:15 Let's accept these the stains on our history and then let's move on and make greater history Let's make greater things to be proud of I think it's a moment moment in history to be proud of where your administration comes in and they go, listen, we, unfortunately, the government let these food companies poison you, you know, and a lot of people are negatively impacted like that. A lot of people got cancer, probably because of the food that they were eating. And that's, that's fucked up. That's horrible. And we're going to either punish some of those food organizations or bare minimum, we're're gonna make it illegal for them to do that shit. Hey, some of these pharmaceutical companies, they were jabbing you up with shit that you didn't need to be jabbed up with, and they were doing that so they could profit.

Starting point is 02:01:52 We're gonna either punish them, or we're gonna stop allowing them to do it so the next generation of Americans doesn't have to go through what you guys went through. And then you go, you know what's fire about America? We realize when we fucked up and we have the energy and excitement and the confidence, the self-esteem to go, all right, we're changing it and we're gonna live up to the expectations that we have for ourselves. And that's why I like, you could say whatever you want

Starting point is 02:02:16 about RFK, it seems to me what he wants to do is make a positive change for people. Let's see if he's able to do it. But in terms of making America healthy or whatever the slogan is, why would you not want America to be more healthy? Like, give the guy a second to fucking try it. Every minute they're like, this is the problem today. And then that becomes a story every day. It's just like how fucked up it is. And I have friends now that are addicted to the news and I'm just like, dude, just live your life. See, everything's gonna probably be fine. It It's already been fine We're already damaged. We all have cancer or whatever everything you know we're doing our best and shit and like

Starting point is 02:02:51 You know how drastically bad you expect things to get you know? Wouldn't it be cool like? This is all I said like obviously I you know I have a daughter So I'm like and she's of the age we're going through vaccines and stuff, and it's terrifying you know I was talking to Joe about this It was like it's the most terrifying thing you ever experience in your life is you have the most perfect thing you've ever created And you have to put something in them and you've watched a video on YouTube that says that it could do something horrible to her But if you don't do it she could get some disease that could do something horrible to her

Starting point is 02:03:18 So you're like what how do I protect my kid? There there's a fork in the road and both potentially leads a horrible How do I protect my kid? I would love nothing more than to do an intense, and I'm sure they've already done this, so if you have, call me an idiot, that's fine, I'm an idiot, whatever, but intense research into the vaccinations. And I would love nothing more if we found out, hey, you know what it looks like? They are safe for them and there's very low chance cause of anything negative for your kid. How much nicer would that feel than right now what all

Starting point is 02:03:48 of us new parents are feeling which are like do I have to delay it like which ones how do I protect my child like like and the just like we want the research we want it it's yeah we want to know and I think if you gave Bobby an out where you know if even if it was 20 minutes a week where he gave a speech or something and maybe that he should start doing that to update people Robert Kennedy jr. Say hey, this is where things are at and we're gonna try our best and this is what we're gonna try to do Maybe that would be great to have some sort of an address. Love it, you know Trump's addresses Sometimes they're so, you know, they're Trumpian, you know

Starting point is 02:04:21 They're just like kind of the bare facts and like, you know, we're gonna win type shit So maybe if you had Vance give something that was a little bit more elongated short a little bit more had a little bit more personal Notation and feeling to it like a didn't FDR do that. I think they were called the fireside. Oh, yeah Where he was talking to people you're right. We might need something like that, dude, because there's so much muck out there There's so much bullshit information and like we're guilty of that, too We just spout whatever on the fucking mic and who knows if it's true or not

Starting point is 02:04:50 But it'd be nice if we had information disseminated from the people in power It might be wrong or we might be right, but they are the people in power So we can at least hold them to that standard if they say that they're doing this specific thing and we disagree with it We can be like I disagree with that yeah, but if Bobby's they're doing this specific thing and we disagree with it, we can be like, I disagree with that. But if Bobby's coming out and he's going, listen, we're getting the red dye out of here, it doesn't benefit anybody. There are other ways to create, I don't know, sugar coloring substitutes that are less harmful to you.

Starting point is 02:05:17 Does anybody disagree with this? Everybody goes, no. Okay, done. Right. Thanks. Yeah, there's still so many people that just want somebody to be wrong all the time, you know? So maybe that'll start to go away, I don't know. But yeah, I think if I wake up each day

Starting point is 02:05:30 and I looked at everything as politics and stuff, and it just starts to wear on you, and then that algorithm learns you, and then you're a good fucking puppet, you become a puppet. What else is going on? Let's think of something, I'm trying to think of something,

Starting point is 02:05:43 was there a job that you had when you were young that you miss ever? That you were like, I'm fucking good at this shit. It wasn't that I was good at it, but I liked mowing lawns. Like I felt accomplished afterwards. Like I'd look at it and I'd go, wow, I did that. That was kind of annoying, it was hard, but there here's this thing that I did

Starting point is 02:06:06 and it looks better now. And I felt proud of it. And I think there's a version of that in creating stuff in general. But I think very early, I like to work on something and then see the thing I created. And so yeah, there was something really nice about that. Now I get to do a job where I like the actual work part

Starting point is 02:06:27 and I like seeing the end product. I didn't enjoy the work part of it. But yeah, I think that, I'm trying to think, I mean I just worked in like restaurants. Oh yeah, you definitely did. I can see you for sure. For sure, you are. What restaurants was I working at?

Starting point is 02:06:46 Oh, obviously, Macaroni Grill, dude. No. Dude, you wore a cape at Macaroni Grill. I'm sure, there's no way you didn't. We didn't have a Macaroni Grill in the city, man. Hey, look. We needed a Macaroni Grill. That's your origin story.

Starting point is 02:07:00 I worked at a pizza shop. I do look like I could pull off pizza shop, right? We're good pizza shop. I do look like I could pull off pizza shop, right? Look like I was arguing with Spike Lee I'm trying to think of whatever I'm trying to you. I worked at pizza shop, man. I love that shit, dude What was the first time do you remember the first time as a kid that you made? Made money and like the feeling of that? Oh yeah. They'd pay you to clean up. We had like wishing wells in our town or wherever

Starting point is 02:07:29 and they'd pay you to clean them out. Like the city. It's like take the coins out of it. Yeah, get in there. Like you gotta take a ladder down and get all the shit out and stuff. And there's like, people throw fucking, like a lot of views, like to-go orders and shit in that bitch.

Starting point is 02:07:41 A lot of Popeyes in that bitch. Decent amount of money, not as much as you would think yeah So we found a fucking sword had blood on it once I'm like a pretty scalabert or whatever yeah But yeah cleaning out that cleaning out those one summer That was probably the first job I ever had really but get you a little bit of money hide my money, too Really I used to put my money in a crown royal bag hide it in the yard. How old were you? They go hole and hide it probably 11 maybe 12

Starting point is 02:08:11 How that's a nice bag that bitch it was nice. You keep that bag. Isn't that weird? Yeah, I've had some doubloons in it that I caught at some of the parades and like the Mardi Gras parades There's just these little medallions kind of like they're not worth They're not worth any money But they had pictures of like different Historical figures from Louisiana on them because you catch them at Mardi Gras Yeah, and I put them in a bag and hide them in the yard And why do you think you were hiding your your didn't trust anybody in the house? I knew everybody in that bitch

Starting point is 02:08:36 Yeah, really my three siblings and my mom I was burying that shit. I ain't fucking do you still talk to your siblings? Oh, yeah, we talked now. It's these are good now, but at time I didn't trust anybody in that bastard dude because I was sneaking in every room That's where it comes from that's when you ain't shit you assume other people ain't shit it starts here though Trust me so much I don't trust me so much that I don't trust you. That's crazy dude. What else man? What's up with the culture? How's black stuff going over there?

Starting point is 02:09:11 I know they have that new rapper, Gen Lee. Have you seen him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was Gen Lee. Is it Gen? The Gen for Ginger. Well, first of all, he's a black dude that says the N word. He's a white dude that says the N word.

Starting point is 02:09:24 He put two N's in it, so he misspelled it. So he could be either one. That's all I'm saying. But yeah, he's a... It's interesting. Yeah, he is. And he's like, he's confident saying it. He seems really like he's from that culture. Yeah. So now are we witnessing that word become more of a cultural thing and not a specific race thing That's what I wonder because I'm just wondering like say you're so much a part of the culture and it seems like he is Like he has black friends He says the word around them if you're so much a part of it But then you can't say that thing are you then is that feel like the culture isn't saying we're you're you're here, but you're not You're not so I have no idea.

Starting point is 02:10:06 But it's just, it's interesting. It is interesting, it is interesting, because it is like, so I guess when I was growing up in New York, it was a thing that white people, we would never say, and you could not say. But like Puerto Ricans that were kind of like white presenting would say it, and that was fine. I think even like Mexicans were kind of saying it. Sometimes even Asians would say it, and that was fine. I think even Mexicans were kinda saying it.

Starting point is 02:10:27 Sometimes even Asians would say it, but it felt really like a word white people were not allowed to say, obviously, because of the historical context. But that situation right there is quite interesting. If he did grow up in this culture, maybe it's his friend's way of saying, we don't see you as different, bro.

Starting point is 02:10:45 Like, we actually see you as one of us, and we don't feel any negative sentiment when you say it, and this is our way of saying we accept you and you're not different. Maybe, again, I don't know, I'd have to ask them. Whereas, like, if somebody else said it who is not from the culture at all, they'd be like, yeah, you can't say that.

Starting point is 02:11:04 And that's their way of saying, you're not from the culture, bro. Like, you are not. You are a visitor here, and you're not allowed to say that thing. Right. Yeah, that's kind of how I think I'm saying. I just think it's interesting. It's kind of interesting because you have people

Starting point is 02:11:16 defending him online, you have people calling him out online. And then some of his music is great, man. I mean, it's catchy. I'm curious to see. Yeah, it's like, and some of the lines he's saying like, you know Don't get in trouble cuz of my shit like, you know I'm not saying this cuz I'm just saying this cuz this is who I am right even expresses in like that stand on its own like

Starting point is 02:11:36 Don't don't get in it. Don't repeat my shit just to get in now you get in trouble, right? Which I think is yeah, that's empathetic. It's giving his story Yeah Just to get it now you get in trouble right which I think is yeah, that's empathetic It's like giving his story right because he probably is aware that oh shit white kids might see me doing this and then they think It's okay for them to do it and now they're getting fucked up. So he's like listen your life might not be my life like Like I'm at least you put a safety precaution on this That's like better than the parental advisory There's a white disclaimer.

Starting point is 02:12:06 Yo! You are not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a ginger advisory right there, dude. That's a ginger advisory, dude. But this could potentially open up gateways for some gingers to say the N-word and some spicy... Because they've long been looming on the edge of the culture the ring around Saturn they call them and

Starting point is 02:12:26 It'll be interesting to see what happens. Yeah, do we that's something like we gotta ask ourselves Like are we fully accepting of gingers like our white people fully accepting of the gingers? I mean look I don't are you even what do you like part something right my father's from Nicaragua mom and my mother's just white Yeah, but um I Don't you know I've thought you know yeah, I'm not a name. We're got dropping it. I'm not that fuck No, what am I fucking trying to prove to somebody, but I do remember they had like this cool band I went to a black fraternity, and we'll get you out here in which one I was an M1. It was like snoop or something new uh

Starting point is 02:13:03 That uh Like Snoop or something new, uh, Theta Noop or something. Bring up a couple of black fraternities over there. Southern. Alpha, what is it? University. Alpha Kappa Psi? Alpha. Beta Phi Beta, Kappa Alpha Psi.

Starting point is 02:13:16 That might have been it. The Kappas are, have you seen the Kappas before? Kappas are cool. They got like a cane, and they do like these cool dances with the cane My boy was my boy was a captain in college and they could have been it they were like swagged out and then the what is The the Omega's those are like the the athlete that's like the athlete for it. Oh really you know Yeah, that has that the cue dogs. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was cute dog shit, right? They invited they had like a it was like it was a it was Nickelback, but it was black guys doing it, right?

Starting point is 02:13:48 It was like, um... Don't even say it. Don't even say it. I'll tell you what it was. Don't even say the name of that cover band. Don't even say the name of the Nickelback black cover band deal. We've almost done the whole Okay, we did a good job. We did a good job

Starting point is 02:14:11 I know you trying to bait me with this gently We did a good job today, okay Was like this a crazy cover band. Don't do it. And then one of their songs was like, oh, this is how you remind me? It's not... Okay, so they're doing like hip-hop renditions of Nickelback. And just make sure you say it right, yeah. We don't even have to go into it. That's so crazy how we all know exactly how it was spelled.

Starting point is 02:14:53 But yeah, look, I just felt welcome to be in the building, so that's all I'm saying, dude. This is how you remind me, you're not mean. Never made it as a wise man, did it? Spit that whole song right now Spit that whole shit right now, Tia I'm gonna have to too Couldn't cut it as a pole man's feeling We gotta stop, it's only gonna get worse

Starting point is 02:15:22 Congratulations on life, the new special's out now. Congratulations on meeting my dad, man. Thank you, Billy. Yeah, thanks for being just somebody. Yeah, it's good to have that there's different podcasters in different parts of the country and different parts of the world, you know? And it's just we're lucky to be able to do this and to be able to spend these conversations. I gotta come up there and get on on

Starting point is 02:15:47 On your pod this time. Oh, please man. I want you on flagrant and I want you on brilliant idiots, man I'll be up there in a I'll be up there in April. I think you're Charlie gotta kick it man We gotta get together. I know even if we just go grab a drink. I think you guys would hit it off Oh, I'm sure we would you got you guys have great vibes. He's incredible man. He's incredible I've only heard good things man. It would be an honor, but uh thank you so much for your time, dude I know it's very valuable, and it means a lot now. I just appreciate it Congrats on everything man you too man Stoked for you, bro congratulations you this jacket Zach Brian gave me this jacket is very hot in here I saw I saw in the back. I was trying to fit in a little so this is black as I get today, brother

Starting point is 02:16:25 It kind of shows you where I'm fitting in a little so, it's as black as I get today, brother. The Zach Brian Torch Hacker. It kind of shows you where I'm at, you know? Thanks, man. Alright, you bet, man. Thanks. Oh, that when I reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I found I can feel it in my bones But it's gonna take a little

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