DSA CIVIL WAR Plans Exposed, WHITE POWDER Sent To Congress Sparks CHAOS w/ Rollo Tomassi
00:05Over the past several days, there's been a lot of attention, at least in law enforcement,but for some reason, not the media, that there are hundreds or over 100 letters with whitepowder in them being sent to members of Congress.And I'm just going to, you know, I probably shouldn't say exactly where I was, but I was inGrand Rapids over the weekend.And I'm in Grand Rapids, and I see the breaking news that the member of Congress in GrandRapids was sent this letter with white powder.and a threat from the DSA that they are fomenting a civil war.
00:41A member of Congress, Democrat, no less, said this is terrorism from the far left, from the DSA,and they call in the DSA to denounce this.Hundreds, or I believe it is believed there's over a hundred or more of these letters in circulation.30 plus have been sent to varying members of Congress.And this is coming right of the time, data Republicans said she has information, documents,and recordings of leftist individuals discussing their operational plan to foment a civil war in this country.And I'm sitting here like, y'all made fun of me.Y'all laughed at me.
01:16Well, who's laughing?No one's laughing now.This is freaky stuff.So, you know, I'm in the car with the boys on the way to the brand new studio here in D.C.,and I'm like, how come no one's talking about 36 letters with white powder being sent to all these members of Congress two weeks out from a midterm?I'm turning on the news, not hearing much about it, but it's in every major publication.So I have to wonder.So we'll talk about that, my friends.
01:40At the same time, of course, I mentioned data Republicans got new information pertaining to leftistsfomenting a civil war.I mean, they're explicitly stating their plan is to riot in the United States, the likes ofwhich you've never seen, to force Donald Trump to cross a red line, which they can use todelegitimize the Trump administration and the American government.At the same time, Donald Trump is, well, he's saying he's got nothing to do with the Ilhan Omar stuff.But Ilhan Omar is being investigated.We've apparently got a statement from the family now, DNA evidence.
02:11And it's looking like, it's looking bad.There's a viral post right now that purports to be DHS and USCIS documents, which state there is no record of Ilhan Omar's father being a naturalized citizen.One of these documents says Exhibit L on it.So it's purportedly grand journey materials.I don't know for sure, but these are all going massively viral.Suffice to say, it's a particularly contentious time.So we're going to talk about all of that, my friends, and more, because we do have updates on AI and all that stuff.And Nick Shirley receiving $10,000 from Donald Trump.
02:47Look at that.So smash the like button, my friends.Share the show with all your friends.Joining us tonight to talk about this.And everything else is Rollo Tomasi.Hey, thanks having me back.Yeah, who are you? What do you do?October surprise.
02:58That's who you are?I'm your October surprise.No, I mean, the...Yeah, it always annoys it.We're not supposed to call it rice.And is it rice and what is it?Did we find out?A white powder?
03:09So far, they said it wasn't hazardous, so we don't.We don't.It would be powdered sugar for anyone else, you know?But it's terrorism.Because the point of the letters is it's to invoke fear.But it's hit Democrats and Republicans.So they've traced it to North Texas.And it appears that the letters purported to be DSA.
03:27The DSA is disavowed.this, but it doesn't matter because the chaosis the point. Anyway, yeah, who are you?What do you do? I am a role toMassey. I am the author of the Rational Mailseries of books. I got six of them out.I have a program thathelps guys called Reignite.
03:42We help a gentleman betweenthe ages of about 40, 45and 65. Guys sort of reintegratethemselves after a baddivorce. Andalso, hopefully we can talk about this a little bit today, isI've got my own AI engine nowcalled the Rational Engine.
03:59And I know recently you were just talking about AIand whether it's going to kill us all.You know, just real quick,because we're not going to get into a big of the show,but George Alexopoulos, he's a good dude,he's a friend, but he's very, very, very anti-AI.And in response to a clip from my interview with Jim Norton,he posted a crudely drawn participation trophy under it.
04:20The point was out, it was about, you know, AI taking overand all these things, to which I responded with a vector image of a trophy.and I said, didn't cost me one cent.And invariably, I get a ton of responses from people who all say,it's disgusting, it's ugly, you're missing the point,that's not real art.The image that I posted was made by a human.The point is, you can't tell.
04:44You can't tell.And what's happening now is these people are like,AI is bad, and I can prove it.And then when you show them something that's human made, they'll go, see, that's ugly.And you're like, yeah, the human made that one.And then you show them the AI one, and they're like, oh, that one looks pretty good.It's all in how you use it.It's getting crazy.
04:58We're going to talk about all that stuff.We've got the boys hanging out.Ian's here.Hi.Yeah, I'm also fed up with retarded Luddites, so let's go.Say, Brown, you're holding it down.What's going on, everybody?Yeah, David Carlson.
05:08Pleasure to join you guys.I'm a digital strategist and all things political.No, no.What did you call me?Local wonk?Local won't.Yeah, we got this, I think this fifth chairs me a rotating cast.And I was like, you know what?
05:20I think David, D.C.It's in the name, D.C., David Carlson.I mean, I saw Brian kill me on the way up in here.I was like, I'm walking in.Because he beat up right.I was, yeah, great words.It's a high privilege.I had this, like, air pressure rocket launcher, like, foam thing.
05:32And, like, we're goofing off trying to get through.He walked past us, and I, you know, I don't want to disparage the man, but it did look like he had disdain for us goofing off.Like, here he is in this nice suit coming from Fox and like...There goes the neighborhood.Yeah, there goes the neighborhood.Like, he's walking in, like, a cowboy.It makes me wonder what they're going to think, like, when you guys are jamming, like, we were just, you know, in the other room there.Oh, and we were yelling and everything.
05:52It makes me wonder why all the rest of these guys.We got 24-7 access to the studio, too.studio too we haven't given them the taste for you day yet that's a hell of a way to warm up too that wasawesome no i know brian is going to be like what i you be probably i don't want to i don't want to speakold man he didn't say anything i'm just we love or brian kill me to appreciators yeah yeah he probablywasn't thinking anything about us yeah i just want to say that because it sounds like we're there goesthe neighborhood because you know we're we're we're sneaking in he's nice oh make a wish is in thebuilding that's great all right uh we're gonna get in all that news and stuff before we do got a great
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07:37Visit tnusa.com slash tim or click the link below and enter promo code Tim at checkout.Shoutouts.Thanks for sponsor in the show, guys.But let's jump into the news.We've got this from the Guardian.Holy smokes.More than three dozen Congress members' offices sent envelopes,containing white powder.
07:56Envelopes containing powder come weeks before the midterms as federal agents try to identifywho is behind the campaign.Congresswoman Hillary Shulton, the Grand Rapids in Grand Rapids, Michigan says, this is a pressrelease.Today, Congresswoman Hillary Shulton received a threatening letter at her Grand Rapids,Michigan office that contained unidentified white powder.The letter which claimed to be from the DSA made a direct and specific reference to animpending civil war beginning after the election.
08:22The letter sent to Congresswoman Shulton is.similar to those received at other congressional offices across the country. The DSA has not yetaddressed the attacks. Well, as of this moment, they've denied them. Excuse me, she says,my first thoughts today are with my staff who opened the mail and the first responders at the scene.Everyone is safe. The people who work in congressional offices are public servants. They workevery day to help constituents and serve their communities. No one should ever feel unsafe doingthat work. I'm thankful to law enforcement for their professionalism and I'm proud of my team forstaying calm and looking out from one another. Now we also have this another story. We'll get into it
08:58just a bit, but in the context of civil war, data Republican releasing information of leftists andliberals planning to fomente civil war. So this is all in line with what we're seeing. We'll getinto that story in just a minute, but for the time being, my first question is like, guys, thishappened over the weekend. 30 plus letters full of white powder sent to all these members of Congress.this one specifically threatening civil war or referencing an impending civil war saying it's from the DSAwhat's going on it's it's tough to really i mean is this app does this happen often i feel like this issomething that maybe happens often is like a schizophrenic starts mailing stuff to congresspeopleum because their addresses like i assume it went to her office right and their addressers republics
09:45you know many crazy people that are in this country i'm not necessarily downplaying butanyone can mail a you know bag of sugar to a congressman and womanand say you're a member of such and such organization, right?And the concern then is, how do we function as a countrywhen one random crazy person can do one random crazy thing,throwing a wrench in the entire system of governance?Oh, it's very salient.Mass surveillance.
10:06That's usually the answer.Do we know, down from above?Do we know the political ideology of the people who received these?Is it all the republic?Both?Yeah, like Unipart.Yeah, Schulton's would be center left broadly.like you know Clinton liberal I was just wondering if they're particularly targeting conservatives
10:26I got no no she's a Democrat I got burned out on the anthrax scare after 9-11 you guys mightwithin like I don't know a month or two after 9-11 they got a bunch of anthrax got mailed toWashington DC by somebody and it was like terrorists terrorists terrorists and that scared everybodyand I don't know who did it or if it was even anthrax I don't think it was anthrax they thought it wasanthrax but they used it as like to bang the war drums to go garner support for to destroy theAnd so when I see this stuff, that's what I think.Somebody, it's either, I don't know, but it seems like a false flag.Like, what are the same?
10:55Two weeks out for the midterms?Dear senators from the DSA, and I can see the S being spelled backwards, like who,who, how would they?See, but hold on.Occam's razor.Why would you assume that?Because of the anthrax scare after 9-11.Like, I don't trust any of this garbage.
11:07So, so the, the issue is the immediate assumption one should make is the one that,the simple solution, I should say.The immediate, your thought process.Should be the front and center should be this could be from the DSA.Yeah, that should be.Well, it should be evidence suggests a single individual Democratic socialist, angry withDemocrats and Republicans, sent out these letters.Next, we can argue, is it a false flag?
11:33Is it a right-wing person who's trying to frame the left for some reason?Is it a foreigner?But that, again, is not making an assumption.Straightforward, the probability lies with DSA doing this, especially when you consider thedata Republican release.What's that all about?Do you have info on the-We're going to, I mean, we've got a lot.
11:48lot to break down on that. So I'm just referencing it and we'll cover that in the videos.But basically it's a massive trove of conversations, documents, and recordings of DSA saying,we are going to start a civil war through mass chaos, riots, and forcing the president into a positionwhere he delegitimizes himself. That's the rules for radicals, Saul Olinsky's book about how tooverthrow tyranny is you want to act so, so far, you want to step so close to the line that you getthe government to crack down with a fascist attack. And then you can be like, see, they're fascists.Told you.It's Reichstag event kind of thing.
12:20You need a flashpoint kind of thing.No, but think about it this way, though.Like all last week, the hotness in the news was the riots going on in France,which I believe are still going on in France right now.Well, they put a bunch of lockdowns in place.Right.But then you go and you look at other sort of hot flashpoint places as well.So you've got what, Italy was one of those?
12:41Yeah, I'm trying to think.I wasn't Belgium was one of them as well.And so it's kind of like, I don't know if it's a meme still,I just kept seeing like all these different videos and it was like, this is Belgium, this is France, this is Italy.And then of course, what's the next thing you're supposed to like, the logical conclusion is, oh my God, it's coming here.Now you have the DSA saying, oh, yeah, we're going to start a civil war.Oh, you mean like all those other countries that I saw last week?And so now it sounds plausible.
13:11And again, why are we hearing this two weeks before the midterm election?Well, it's weird from the perspective.Suddenly they just decided to get all agitated.Yeah, well, it's interesting.I mean, but if you're, you know, if you are a DSA member,I don't know why you feel back into a corner right nowbecause you're taking over the, you know,the most powerful political party in the entire world,
13:29the Democrat Party, you're on the cusp of having basically complete control.I mean, after this midterms and with a lot of DSA candidates on the ballot,I guess it depends on how things go in Michigan, at El Saeed.You know, if you're DSA, you're pretty happy right now.And so far as the future of your sub-movement within the Democrat Party,as, I mean, the ceiling is sky high.I think we're going to see things like this, as well as mass riding,the likes of which we've not seen in, maybe ever, next year.
13:57Yeah, well, I would just say that, you know,talking about who it is, what it is,the information we have right now is DSA aligned.I would just, I wouldn't be shocked,because if you look at Europe,you look at what they're doing to the American ride already,and then you compare it to what the Democrats are saying,people like Slotkin, who isn't really DSA,
14:15just a little while ago her and Senator Kelly were telling the military to refuse Trump's orders,you know, committing treason.And then just a couple days ago, she comes out and she says, we're going to jail junior Republican staffers.And then we have the DSA who is obviously violent and obviously advocating for something totally radical in American life.And the way I view this is if you're the DSA, why would you do it?Well, you do it because why wouldn't you?We're trying to scare these people.They're trying to scare Democrats and Republicans into doing what they want, which is...
14:52And it's always easy to go, oh, it wasn't us.It's fake.And their followers are going to believe it.But the ones that are in the know and that want it to happen are laughing saying...Yeah, because I think you write off false flag because it's like, let's just...You know, I don't think the Trump administration would ever do anything like that,but let's just imagine that they were to conduct a false flag.It would be from an Iranian.
15:09It would be like, hey, I'm a big Ayatoll fan.I'm mailing, you know, bombs to people.Like, that's what it would look like if the Trump administration, if you think about what they need right now, the number one thing they need right now is support for this war.So if they were going to do something like that, you know, you would see.So this, that doesn't really, I don't know, it doesn't really square with me if it were to be a false.I think it's likely that it's either a lone wolf who's crazy or, yeah, someone within the DSA line.The next question is, let's say this is a singular, a single lone wolf leftist.what does it say that the DSA is inspiring people to do things like this?
15:45So again, there's a concept called a standalone complex.It's when a group of people all do something similar.So it appears they're acting in concert, but in fact, they're each individual actions.So when it comes to, you know, like 2020 election is a good example.People were highlighting these weird videos of someone doing like vote counting or signature verification.And they're screaming, it's a conspiracy.Look, this person isn't actually reviewing the ballots on video.See, they're in on it.
16:16No, no, no.They're not in on it.They're ideologically aligned and just doing things to the benefit of their machine.So the risk is when the DSA is saying things, like advocating for these things,and then a single individual goes and does it, you don't need a conspiracy.And also, I think it's important to say, I don't care if the DSA disavows it.The fact that these people go on camera and they advocate for it.The fact that Hassan Piker has said things like let the streets run red with the capitalist blood or whatever.
16:45When it comes to the public, when it comes to law, they'll all come out and say, don't look at me.I never said to do anything.But what they're effectively doing every day is going on TV and screaming, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?It's a social contagion.I mean, it's the Luigi Mangione thing.It's the Charlie Kirk assassination.Lone wolf acting as a pack, like, no, I don't think so.I think that Charlie was killed by a transgender.
17:10radical. I think Luigi Mangione was a insane radical who acted alone and they were both rewarded for it.I mean, we saw the way people celebrated when Charlie died. We saw the way people celebrated whenLuigi Mangione killed that United Healthcare CEO. And the media runs cover forum. And so we,why are we surprised when they're shipping? There are a variety of reasons why I think it's going to beballs to the wall next year.one of which is the release from Data Republican, the stuff from the DSA, and the fact that we're seeing a lot of this start picking up.But the other big factor, which, again, I'm putting a pin in it because we're talking about later, is artificial intelligence and the singularity fast approaching.I will just say this as we round out this segment and go to the Data Republican stuff.
17:57It is impossible for me to convey to you, listening at home, the danger and scale of what AI is about to do because you've never seen it before.you can't imagine it, and it does not, it does not evoke an emotion within you.If I were to say that there was a roving band of Antifa right now,live streaming themselves, massacring people, you'd immediately be like, whoa,like that's crazy.And you'd go to look it up, you'd go on X, you'd look for videos.And if you saw those videos, you would probably be like, holy crap, this is happening.if I were to say to you that the economy is on the verge of complete and total collapse
18:40at a speed by which people cannot comprehend, you're like, I don't know, look, you go to work,you get paid, right?I'm just going to say this.Big tech CEOs have been saying we need a UBI.We are going to have, whether we want or not, they are going to be pushing to implement techno-communism.and it's because I said this last week,and it's the last thing I'll say before we go to the next segmentbecause we're going to come back to this AI stuff.
19:09Adobe, $95 billion company.Overnight has no product anymore.How do they exist?Honest question to all of you at home.How is it possible that right now Adobe exists?I want you to imagine a gigantic oil tanker floating on the oceanand it looks amazing.And then a strange force slices the entire hole off.
19:31from the bottom, which just rips and sinks to the bottom. You can still see that shit for abrief second. That's where we're at right now. It's going to just go straight down. Sam Altman saidin 2024, he expected this, this change that we're talking about right now, the entire worldrevolution of the economy. And he realized that was with their GPT4. And then he realized shortlyafter that that the world is addicted to the liberal economic order, this economy. There's a momentumthat's hard to change.And he's like, I thought it was going to happen overnight.And it's not because all these forces are making it keep going.
20:05That's, see, the mistake he's making is,I have introduced a product by which people can adopt.But like we saw with Netflix pass,I'm sorry, with Blockbuster passing over their ability to buy Netflix,it's because the ship is a gigantic object with inertia.Now, you can implement a better ship.And people will still be like, yeah, but this one's already rolling.I don't want to get that one rolling.
20:29And then sooner or later, that ship has its wheels ripped out from underneath it by the other one.And what's going to happen?It doesn't matter if you wanted to keep going.It is going to slam into the ground, grind to a halt and eject everybody off of it.The amount of jobs that I warned this, you know, earlier in the year, that AI has the capability right now to wipe out probably 60, 70% of all jobs.I cannot, I cannot make people understand because it's hard to explain the scale.But it's simple to say, Oracle doesn't exist anymore.Salesforce, gone.
21:09Microsoft, gone.Adobe, gone.Our entire tech sector, the idea of software, gone.It will just be AI.So what happens when the economy takes a,10% hit when 10% let's say 10% of the American population instantly is without work.You are going to see people burning things down.But wait, we're going to talk more about the AI stuff because we've got a big story on it.
21:38I first want to talk about how the DSA is seeking to foment this.We've got this from Data Republican.Data Republican posts that Democracy files part one.I'm working on gathering all the documents.Here's something to understand about the democracy and protest ecosystem.almost nobody knows the grand plan, so to speak.They simply agree to play a role.99% of people breaking stuff in the streets believe they're doing it out of an organic
21:59uprising.They don't see that the police have been ordered to stand down.They don't see the legal services have already been arranged for them.They don't see that foundations are paying for their bonds.Similarly here, governors aren't participating in a pact to destroy the Constitution.Governors simply have agreed to push back on the Insurrection Act.I call this shared epistemology.in my book unelected.
22:22No kings might not agree to explicitly tear on the Constitution,but they nonetheless work with the DSA.So here's the story.Data Republican says that she received a large trove of documents and recordingsfrom Democrats and liberals talking about how they intend to invoke mass riotsto force Donald Trump to invoke the Insurrection Actso that they can counter by saying Donald Trump is illegitimateand Democrat governors can band together form some kind of network that says,
22:47we are rejecting the illegal and unconstitutional actions of Donald Trump and the federal governmentand use that to create, let's just say, a slice through the confidence in the American system.That as people in blue states and liberals will in their minds instantly say,Trump is no longer president.And then Democrats will start acting outside the confines of the Constitution.That's the big play.And of course, Democrat, I'm sorry, Data Republican has the,videos. We'll play a little bit here. Democratic Constitution Forum, March 25th. We'll just jump ahead.
23:24So the long story short is that currently I'm teamed up with the leaders of the democracyrenewal group. That's 300 people who used to be USAID people from, you know, doing democracy workand authoritarian pushback all over the globe.U.S.AID staffers are now working together with liberals for, you know,authoritarian pushback. You know what we called that when USA was, USAID was working on it? We calledthose color revolutions. And they're now working in the United States because they're mad at Trump.I'll say this. My assumption, I think there is a big conspiracy. I do. I'm not saying I know for afact. I'm saying I am hypothesizing for which requires testing and evidence, but I believe it is
24:11strongly possible that there are people who know AI is about to destroy the economy and wipe outcapital as we understand it. And we've seen Elon Musk say abolish intellectual property,Jack Dorsey as well. Outright said abolished intellectual property. What have we witnessed from thebig tech firms over the past couple of years? Clipping. What's clipping? Tell me why it is.I can go on Instagram and Joe Schmo blow blow hole is posting clips from Marvel's Endgame.Why can I watch three minutes of raw Marvel movie footage from a random account of Instagram? Whathappened to copyright infringement. Gone. We saw this case when Destiny made a documentary aboutHassan Piker and three women on Twitch watched it in its entirety with one woman saying,
24:57don't watch it from him. Watch me react to it. I think that was Ethan Klein. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ethan Klein, not Destiny. Yeah, yeah. I misspoke. Ethan Klein made the documentaryabout Hassan, not Destiny. Sorry, Destiny. I made a mistake. And well, she, I don't know where wethe lawsuit, but she advanced. And we covered this. It basically means IP is dead. All of thesemoves are happening that lead us to this techno-communist future. Yeah, you need like a way,it's kind of weird, but I'm telling you, you need a way to code your product that's notstealable. It has to be like time crystals. Possible. Well, if you have like motion as your code,that it's hard to reverse engineer how it moved to get to where it's at. These time crystals
25:40are interesting technology.So there might be ways to protect your IP,but in the meantime, everything's getting shredded.The issue is they're spreading IP intentionally, Ian.What's that?They want to shred IP because China's unrestrained,and they want to take this intellectual propertyand load it into their AI models.
25:56China is stealing American IP because no one can enforce against it.So Elon and Jack are like abolish intellectual property.The future the technocrats have proposed is universal basic income.You will own nothing and you will be happy.And so what are we seeing right now?AI, guys, I cannot impress upon you.I've got a video on Saturday on my channel, Timcast channel, and it's about the Adamand Eve theory.
26:25I recorded voiceover and dropped the file into Claude and said, have fun.It rendered the whole video.It made everything.This video is the biggest on that channel for the last 10 videos.It's got close to 300,000 views.I don't need a video editor anymore.This would have taken two people to do before.You can also simply just tell any one of these AIs,
26:49here's my posting schedule on YouTube, do it for me.Now, I will stress this again,it is not possible to replicate my voice,and I've tried again.Yes, right, Ian, today I did a raw three-minute recordingwhere I read a script the AI gave me to readso that it could copy my voice and it failed.11 labs?
27:08It was, yes.You got to try a local model.I think that's the way to go.I had to do the same thing for the rational mail engine.I was reading scripts for it so that I could simulate my voice.Was it able to do it?Kind of.Couldn't get me at all.
27:20I mean, if you have a very recognizable,if you have like Jordan Peterson's voice, easy.Easy.But if you have just kind of like, you kind of mid-voice.What it does for me, though, is it sounds like my tone,but the words are pronounced in a strange way.Like, I would say he blessed that guy.It would say blessing.
27:37Yeah, I think the real training is so time-consuming.It just would do it.word by word and you're like this word was too high you got to go down at the end of this and it's likeokay and then it takes 20 minutes. Well the specific sentences you have to say so that you're getting likecertain hits and it didn't work. But I digress on that. This is the value is it takes a lot oftime to train a quality model. Right and so that's meaningless to the bigger picture. It'll get itsooner or later. It'll get it probably in a month. We are we are in the hockey stick in the exponentialgrowth curve of AI. A month ago I was sitting down looking at these programs talking to my brother
28:09saying like there's ways to automate video editing and I was going through it spent a half anhour and I was like it's just not getting it and now I can make a 30 minute video just by droppingthe file straight up and it's even getting better the first time I did it a week ago it was like I'mgoing to have to make multiple video files and make it use a batch to combine them I said okay do ita week later it said nope that problem's been solved already we're already well past that itoriginally was like, I can edit the video using code and I'll have to piece them together.Anyway, here's my point. Because I want to bring it back to the DSA and democracy and the big conspiracystuff. We were going to hire two people. And we've been talking about it for some time. We need video
28:52producers. And then one day, like the other day, I was like, weren't we going to hire people?What happened? Oh, Claude and GPT got so good. We forgot we needed people because the truth is we don'tneed them anymore. I had a conversation with a big YouTuber. He hit me up and he was like,My God.He's like, I used to spend a week, a week to make one of my video analyses.I just record the voiceover in 10 minutes and then it's done 10 minutes later.My whole week is open.I can fire my staff now.
29:21He's like, I had staff members that I needed for posting schedule for promotion and comments.I can literally just tell it to look at my channel, build a framework for my productionschedule, implement it automatically.Done.the scale of job loss that we are going to see in the next year is going to be insane.The DSA is going to utilize this.I think we are going to see Luddite riots.And it's not necessarily going to be framed that way.
29:49But if there's a guy who's 35 and he's got two young kids and he loses his job because Adobe is free now,let's say you're a software engineer getting $120,000 a year.And Adobe comes out and says our quarter one, we're down 37%.We project quarter quarter two to be down another 42% which is compounding.Yeah, you're fired.I'm sorry.Company's gone.Adobe doesn't,
30:11a 95 billion dollar company has no product.I'm going to say it again, guys.Microsoft has no product.What's Bill Gates' stockworth at this point?They still have servers, though.They might be able to pivot these companies.That's right.In the data centers.
30:25Yeah, push them into data centers.Yep.All these tech companies can become data centers.So here's what happens.the DSA says we need riots.How do you get them?A mass unemployment, I'll do it.The train is slamming into a wall and everyone's getting ejected off of it.
30:40I do believe we're in an environment that's right for a revolt, like economically.But there's other forces that want that as well as a DSA is that, of course, the Chinese would love to see the U.S. spiral in the civil war.That means they would win the world over.I'm sure that Putin wouldn't be sad if it happened right now.So the Iranians, of course, and because of the open,borders of 20 plus million people in the country.It could be anybody, man.It could be networks of anybody.
31:05It could be a freaking AI that did this.I mean, maybe someone had to handle the paper and put the white powder in the thing, butso maybe it's not quite AI just yet, but, but it could have been an, I don't know.But the white paper, the, the white powder doesn't matter.What matters is back fill has stopped, meaning an old person retires from a job,they're not hiring anybody.So that's not coming out in the job reports.We're not looking at job losses.
31:31We're looking at jobs.There's no jobs being created.So, you know, Phil brought this up on the show a couple weeks ago.There's not been mass layoffs in AI.Correct.But there's not been backfill either.Because this is the train we are on.Next year, we will start seeing layoffs.
31:46We are already seeing layoffs.I think as of right now, it's between 100 and 200,000 layoffs due to AI.But the other thing to consider to is like the Blockbuster scenario.Blockbuster is like, look, you know, we make money renting movies out.we don't need Netflix. And now Blockbuster has gone. We experience this too. Like we do a talk showlong form. Short form is blowing up. And I'm like, look, we're not going to reallocate resources andchange what people watch of our show into a short form show. We'll do short form where we can.So meanwhile, there's people who do short form who get 100 million views and we get 500,000
32:22on a long form show because people watch as it makes money. That's just generational and contentstrategy changed. Imagine what happens next year when there's 700 long-form podcasts every minute.Dude, I also think it's going to get to, like you said, Opus had to break your video apartinto a lot of videos and then put them back together. I think people are going to watch like 30shorts at once, and they're going to be able to start to understand them. This is what YouTubeis implementing seasons. So you can put up, you could put up a short and then create a playlist,so the shorts just play one after another and create a de facto life. Next level is you put five shortson your screen at once and you watch them all at the same time.
32:58Red zone.But again, that straight up.Brooks of the point, everything we're talking about is what happens to this country if7% of the people, just seven, lose their jobs in a span of three months.Well, then look at the cascade effect that goes along with that too.So if you have that job loss right there, but then what businesses are going to be affectedas a result of those job losses as well.So I was just watching this video on the flight out here about calling.
33:26is closing right now because there's a lack of, well, men that are, you know, signing up to, you know,enrolling in college right now.It's a point where you've got, like, colleges that have been around since the mid-1800s that are now close.I mean, they've survived two world wars, even the civil war in some of these cases.And they're basically shuttering those colleges.And in some cases, they're shuttering them right now.Or else they're going to wait until the end of the school year and then they're done.That was my alma mater.
33:51They just like, they could read a spreadsheet and they're like, we're getting less and less applicants every year.We need to build a nursing school.We've got to, like, cast our net wider.So we're getting to the point where these universities are going to have, like, every degreeon office.See, but the narrative is this.It's like, well, you know, guys are, you know, waking up and they don't want to, you know,sign up for this stuff because they don't want to go into massive student debt.
34:10And, you know, the old way of thinking about, like, oh, I'm going to go to high school,I'm going to get a diploma, then I'm going to go to college, then I'm going to, and sort ofthat life track, that, you know, sort of this 20th century life track.And I think they're, I hate to say, I think you're giving them a little bit toomuch credit because a lot of these guys, just because they're not rolling into college, they're goinginto trade schools as well. So if you look at trade schools, if you look at welders, you look atelectricians and such plumbing and that kind of stuff, you'll see more guys that are going into thatright now because they don't want that debt. But what happens as the follow-on effect is that once
34:41those businesses close, once those and the college is a business, once those close, then everythingthat was surrounding it, all of the businesses that were around the university, all of the littlecoffee shops, all these little, the dorms and everything else, all of those closed, too, as a resultof that as well. So in some cases, to put this into context with the AI, if those jobs and thosecompanies go belly up, then what happens to the other contracts that were dependent on that bigship going down to the bottom of the ocean? And so the point I bring up with 7% is to get us tothe point where we are looking at governmental and economic collapse, you don't need everyoneto lose their job. In fact, you only need a couple hundred thousand people in a short period of
35:28time to lose their jobs to see the DSA's numbers explode. Because right now, they're veryanti-AI. What happens when a guy goes to college, gets a computer science degree, gets a jobas a developer making 150K a year, and then his job is gone. The DSA says, why are you homeless?And he says, I'm in debt, I can't pay off my debt, they won't forgive my loans, AI justtook my job from me and they say, join us.And he goes, you got it.Now, add on top, real quick, the polls showing boomers are saying tax the young.And you've got a guy now who's in his 20s who just got his degree in computer science being
36:01told, there's no jobs anymore, go work as a barista and pay back your $50,000, which he can't,and we're going to tax you more to pay the retirement for the boomers.These people are going to be like, DSA, let's roll, baby.Throughout this whole conversation, the only thing I can think of is like immigration and jobreshoring. You know, you're talking about like these small numbers. It doesn't take that much.100,000 here, 100,000 there. Okay, well, we have 100,000 illegal immigrants in this country,actually, more than that, multitudes of that. So this is only another reason why it's so importantthat we get the deportations rolling faster and thicker and then bringing jobs back home.
36:40You know, in fact, you mentioned Microsoft. They've offshoreed a bunch of jobs, and they claimedthey were firing these American workersbecause AI was replacing themand then they turned around and shipped the jobs to India.It's possible to that.And it's like, it's actuallycriminality. You were seeing it with the hotelswhere people are going to these hotels and we have an
36:59AI kiosk to check you in. You're like sickand then like Vivek Ramoswami pops up.You're like, what's going on? He's in India.I know. I'm like, I thought you were running for governorand it turns out it's another Indian guy. But it's crazyand they're like, oh, we like, oh, we offshort it.Oh, I thought this was like AI or whatever.It's a total scam with a lot.
37:15lot of it. But to David's point, you know, not to go on, you know, we've heard it for two years now,but yeah, the mass deportations really do, like, solve a lot of these problems where you can clearout a lot of the labor on the low end. Like, the only reason we view a lot of these jobs as undesirableis because they're occupied by people that are undesirable. And if you can turn these jobs into,like, what we call a menial labor or low-skilled jobs, if you can, like, make those desirableagain, if you can make those jobs have some dignity again. And a lot of that is like theseemployers that treat these employees right because they're not just like wage slaves that aredependent on them for a visa problem solved like the problem is a lot of these people that like
37:51h1b jobs for example that's a whole different thing but a lot of these like legal immigrants they'reworking on farms and that sort of thing the way they're treated by these these these ag companiesit's it's terrible and if you get these people out of the way and they have the treat they havethe higher americans then americans have rights and it's going to get better across the board the dignityissue is the issue young people don't feel dignified doing blue collar work that's a culturalissue. Sowhen you think about what's highstatus, being a farmer is not high status.
38:19You're not going to walk into a club inNew York and be like, I'm a farmer, and then all thegirls are like, woo-hoo! A lot of that's becauseof who currently works those jobs, which is like a legalconference. A lot of it is, I wouldsay personally, is a lot of it is because you associateit with like the low class. Yeah, buteven the owner of a farm is not walking
38:35to a club in New York with women going like, woo, a farmer.They were in Fort Worth, Texas.It's likeglamorous on Instagram now. It's likeglamorous on Instagram now.to be doing the homesteading because, I mean, you know this.Oh, that's a fair point.It is like, oh, you actually can fin for yourself.
38:50You're not a white collar like quarter zip finance, bro, Segway pipeline.You're actually doing stuff with your hands and that's really attractive.I think you're right though.There does need to be a cultural change where young people, you know, value labor.Well, hey, look at this.El Langeley's been number one in the trip.How do you imply status with, like, farming?Like, that's the thing is that we talk about this on Access Vegas every now and then.
39:12and then it's one thing to be a plumber and make like $300,000 a year as a pump.Because you're like a journey of the plumber.You've been going, to be a plumber, you actually have to go through like four years of, you know, training to get that certification.So you can be an official.There's a lot of crime you got to deal with.Yeah, exactly.But there's a lot of technical stuff you have to know in like, depending on the kind of plumbing you're doing this commercial.There's all kinds of different kinds, right?
39:33But if you have that guy who's making $300,000 a year and he says, I'm a plumber.And you got another guy who says, well, I'm in finance, how much you make, $150,000 year?The guy who financed is a guy that looks like he's driving an expensive car.That's a higher status job than the guy who's a plumber.What is the political leaning, on average, do you think, of a blue-collar worker?Well, depends on their ethnicity.But they're white, probably pretty much.It depends on the location.
39:59Certainly, but let's just say for the country in general.Like a white dude in Ohio is going to be like the biggest chud.Yeah, but race is not relevant to the issue that, that,Because we factor that into averaging.Well, if you average out, blue collars by right on the middle.Because you have unions, you have a lot of, like, Hispanic and black labor.So it probably comes out 50-50.I don't think so.
40:25I guess for the blue collar.Like city livers turn out more left.Country livers turn out more right kind of thing.Well, unions still vote Democrat in a lot of places in the country.We're seeing it now in Michigan.Yeah, unions have just become so much weaker.Yeah.Yeah.
40:39A lot of union guys flipped for.Trump. Like I mentioned, my neighborhood was like union city workers, police and firefightersof Chicago. They flipped for Trump. So I think the general husband is probably a lean right.Yeah. Not hardcore. And again, I agree with you on the issue of like, yeah, like the Latino,they're going to lean Democratic, but you factor all that in. Republican. So I just looked it up.Blue collar workers have shifted away from Democrats and now lean in the last election 66%.Wow. That's a lot more. And 24, that's the lean of white colors.Hispanics swung over big time.
41:13They leaned on Trump.It wasn't really a Republican thing.It was a Trump thing.This is the thing.It's like a lot of,like a blue collar guys, me and myself,I don't even know if I'm Republican.I just love Trump.
41:22And I think a lot of these guys in Chicago, for example,just love Trump.Here's the point.Blue collar jobs are protected.The trades are going to be worth way more,they're going to become very valuable.I'm going to say trades are going to go down in value,substantially.
41:37So Plummer making 300Ks and make 100K next year.Why?Competition is going to be insane.It's going to be the only number of the United.I can go to CHAPT and learn out to be a plumber.White in 20 minutes.White collar jobs are now Democrat leaning.White collar jobs are the greatest at risk.
41:52What's going to happen when all of these high net worthrelative to the blue collar worker lose their jobs?They are going to dump their money into DSA and communism.And it's going to happen so quick you're not going to get an ab-it's one thing to say, learn to code.Your job is going away.We'll transition you.No, no, no, no. This change is too fast.
42:13So these white-collar people who lose their jobs are going to be like, why is it that I don't have money for food?I did nothing wrong.The government should subsidize me and tax the wealth or tax the AI companies.And now we saw, did you guys see that quote where the guy said, the future is going to be, he's like, in a year, you will all do nothing.Matt Walsh comment on.He's like, you will do nothing and you'll receive a paycheck paid from the taxes of the AI companies.I think that's reasonable, actually.That's impossible.
42:42It is impossible to generate.It sounds nice, but I don't think it's going to happen.What they are saying with UBI is that, let me say that in capitalism, I do something of value for someone and I get money for it.I then go to Taco Bell and give them something of value in exchange for the taco.UBI says the person making the taco generates the value.and there's a person who produces no value at all,who gets a free taco,and that no value will be converted into a taco again.
43:15Like, it's impossible.It is impossible to have more going out than goes into the system.The whole Fiat system is an impossibility.So we've been on a downward spiral.This is more just like hitting the brakes on the downward spiral.That's what this UBI thing would be.It would probably last for two years,and then AI will figure out how to get us everything we need
43:34without having to pay for it.No, let me say it like this.if I have to pay$200 a month for premiumpro, you know, clod or whatever, I thinkA, I just, GBT launched the $500 one.They are going tomake $500 per month off of me.
43:48But I need that serviceto run my business. Let's say you're a person,a regular human, like a regularhuman, a regular civilian.Not a company, just a regular working class guy. You pay20 bucks for GPT and it does simple things for you.How are they going to extract $20that you gave it and give you the $20
44:05you need to buy it again.No, Dario said 5% of their company wants to give back in the first year.So my point is if an individual's entire source of income is from the AI company that he paysfor, you see where this doesn't make sense?It may be it pays him more than he has to spend.How is that possible?If it's worth $100 trillion and they can break off a trillion dollars a year to the Americanpeople?
44:34What do you mean?break off. Just, I don't know how they would pay the people either. Elon was like,make it UBI. And I'm like, this is exactly the point. If I have to give Tate $20 so that Tate canbe taxed $5 to give back to me, how is the $5 I'm getting going to buy the $20 subscriptionfrom Tate? Because you are, you're, you're anthropic in this situation? Because you're getting100, I'm a person. And he's getting $100 billion from the government, Fiatte printed out of nothing.So he's, hyperinflated with hyperinflated money right now. Yeah. So hyperinflation until the economycollapses and you can't buy anything. Right. And that's why UBI doesn't work. But it's a slowing,
45:08well, we're headed towards a post-money society if we listen to these guys that are in control of the flow.Imagine when it gets into crypto or gets into a like a Fed coin, you know. It is, so the, here's theproblem. You can, what they're going to have to do is it's, it's techno-communism. No individual isgoing to say, I'm so passionate about being a grocery store worker, I'm going to wake up every dayand go stock apples and face boxes of,My meaning comes from my employment.Yeah.They're not going to do that.
45:39There's nothing there.Yeah.So the government will have to do it.The government will have to subsidize this.The problem that emerges, who is going to do it?Prison inmates maybe.So slave labor, I guess.How do you, what, we're going to have to get optimist bots to do it.
45:53There will be a cascade of, I don't want to.Dude, everybody hates their jobs.And that means if you don't have to work and you're getting subsidized, why should I?and the question is if I'm a grocery store worker, why should I have to work and you don't have to?I'll take the 5K per month or whatever the UBI is and stop working instead of worrying about 10K per month and being a grocery store.It might be that the UBI recipients have to log into the system and become part of the technocracy, but the people working for cash can still make their money on the side and not have to opt into the spy tech.So there's an incentive to keep your, you know, your rogue enterprises active.that might be the case and they're like, I just don't want to work for the system.
46:35I'd rather work for Rollo.A collective.The problem is, as I often state, the question everyone can ask their friends, how many peopledo you know play the guitar, Rollo?Plenty.Plenty.How many of them are good enough to be professional musicians?That I know, probably a dozen maybe.
46:55Out of hundreds, yeah.If each and every one of these people were told they would get paid money and could pursue being amusician, how many of them would accept? I'm sure they jump at it. All because you've got to remember,though, that there also is the status factor that's attached to that. So if you're doing it,if you're doing for money, or are you doing it because you think girls are going to come in?And then, regardless. But you also remove the incentive in that way, too, because once something iscommon, then it loses the value. We're not talking about that. The point of making is they'd all say,play guitar and write music or work for an insurance for an insurance company.
47:32Yeah, I'll play guitar.If you go to somebody and say $10,000 a month and you can work for an insurance company,they're going to go, oh, 10,000 a month.That's above GDP.You're being like really optimistic with the guitar playing thing too because I don't even thinkthat would happen.I think they'd rather sit home and play GTA 6.Agreed.
47:46Probably what they would rather do, right?My point is.Because you're going to get to a point where the sedation becomes so immersive thatit won't be, I'm going to be productive.I can use all this great time that I have, you know, I've been free from the system.I'm asking about a guitar, though, is the communist implication that when freed from the constraints of capitalism, they'll pursue their passions.Yeah, they're in their own.They'll solve things.
48:08They won't.They'll sit around playing GTA.Everyone I know who plays guitar, if they were told, look, if you get, you'll get $10,000 to work for the insurance company, but we'll give you $5,000 just to play guitar.They'd be like, guitar.I will make it work.But we don't need guitar players.We need people to face the groceries at a grocery store.Robots can eventually start doing that.
48:29Someone's got to manage the grocery store.No one is going like, hey girl, I'm a grocery store manager.You want to go to the club?I'll tell you something.We were talking about the job reports just a little while ago.What was it?The last one was like $398,000 or something like that.And like something like 4,000 went to men and like everything went to women, right?
48:46Now, I had to cover that when it first came out because that's kind of in my wheelhouse, right?But the thing is, if you look at where those jobs were coming from, where they originated from,They're from, you know, social services in health care, which are predominantly female-run things.And their services that are hands-on.There's not something that AI is going to necessarily report.I want to preface it.I want to pull the article for this.So just put a pin and we'll pull the article up.
49:11We've got this from CNBC.Women accounted for almost all of the job gains in August.So this was a massive viral story with tons of feminists gloating.It is not good when you have young men not working.this is a sign of a serious crisis in this country.Good for women. Congratulations.What are your jobs? What are men doing?What's scary, what's scary about this is something you talk about all the time is to Rollo's point,
49:37most of these are going.I think a large chunk of it was like hospice workers and that sort of thing.It's because so many people are old.We have so many old people in this country.That is why there's so many jobs getting added.A lot of these weren't real jobs because if you look at the economy broadly,it's a no fire, no higher kind of Mexican standoff right now.But you saw massive gains in like health care, especially like later life health care.
49:58That just shows you like we're about to have a pot, like a massive population drop because all these people are about to die.Now, imagine you're a Davos elite and you're sitting there at your table shaped like some kind of weird A in a small room in D.C.With your elites in your- What country am I from?Big media studio.And you're saying, okay, we've got too many old people.We can't fund Social Security anymore.The old people will lose it.if we take it from them.
50:24Then any of these people control various mid-level businesses.We've got AI about to nuke what remains of the job market for the younger generation and formiddle-aged individuals.What do we do?And so what are they going to say?They're going to say, well, you've got to kill a lot of old people and you've got to radicallytransform the economy.How do we do it?
50:44Guys, I think we're going to need revolution.We're not going to be able to implement a UBI techno-communist system by politely asking.It's like Logan's run.Going to need a catastrophe for what you can exploit.Yeah, what could that catastrophe be?So next summer, the DSA is fomenting a mass amount of riots to force Donald Trump over a red line.So the Democrat governors.So maybe it's going to be a World War III, a civil war.
51:14And maybe the elites intentionally have done these things because they're like, we want the crisis.We want a blameless crisis for each of our sides.And all they got to do is ramp it up in other countries to make it seem like, oh, now it's our turn.Now it's decided to come here.Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen, though, because of Putin, Xi Jinping, and Trump are very tight right now.They're talking about having a summit, the three of them.I think they see that if there's a revolution one place, there's going to be a revolution everywhere,and it's going to be like a tribalist warfare until someone seizes control of the data centers and then, you know, makes everyone slaves to some new chaos.
51:50They're all going to do it.Theotic organization.You know, I always wondered this.If I was like a billionaire, do I really want to fight communist?China? I don't care. Why wouldn't the world leaders just get together and say, guys, we're allrich, we can literally do anything we want. There's no reason to fight. Let's just, you know,rule the world by counsel. Why wouldn't they do that? Yeah, that'd be nice. The problem iswith China, maybe what they're doing. The problem with China is that so much of their economic
52:15system is wound up in the American economy that if there are mass protests in America,I saw a tweet about this the other day, which I thought was funny. If there's a lot of protests inAmerica and our system becomes destabilized, she would send soldiers to America to stabilize thesystem because his system is totally reliant on us. And I think that there's like a lot of truth tothat. The global economy is so interwounded in our treasury and our yields and our stocks that if wefall, everything else goes to pure chaos. So what you were saying about like the summit,I haven't seen that. But if that's true, I wouldn't be surprised. Great men are cut from the samecloth. Trump stands among them. So that's real. And I think you would see like some like South Africa's
52:57a great example of what what in America of collapse situation could look like because in the 21st centurylike modern liberal democracies don't collapse. They just like get worse and worse and worse and worse.And what you're saying in South Africa is things have gotten consistently worse. But one sector oftheir economy has grown exponentially. It's the largest in the world is security.Oh.The largest security economy. That's the, that's the Pakistan. South Africa has the largest security industry in the entire world.messed up. Yeah, well.And we have
53:26Cornell at home, which is great. Realquick, you know what's funny is you know these security companies aretracking, you know, rape and stuff.And you got to imagine there's like a guyin like a business suit who walks in and goes, gentlemen,we had a fantastic Q1.Rape is up, murder is up,demands for our security services had never been higher.
53:44Oh, the guy in England. Welcome to commodities.The company.Yes! Yes!Yes! Come on!Investors are like,buy, buy, buy.Yes.No, there's a dip.
53:55Buy, buy, buy.There's so many back.Yeah, but, you know, South Africa is a great example because people will, like,their standard of living as if it declines slow enough, they just get used to it.And America still has, like, a lot of stuff to distract you that is, doesn't requirethat much money.Like, TB's a really cheap.Again, GTA coming out.
54:15Like, I just really struggle to imagine Americans who, like, tolerated COVID, tolerate a lotof other stuff would like snap over like losing jobs. I just really don't see it, especially becauseAmerica, the way like our cities are designed, it's impossible to demonstrate, like what peopleare going to drive in from the suburbs into town and then start protesting. It's like, it's neverhappened. What you would need is, you know, so the bottom portion of the population and the topportion of the population will be fine in this scenario. What you really need is the taxpayers in themiddle, the people that, you know, have an actual job that aren't completely relying upon thegovernment to lose out. And then everybody loses out.
54:50And then it's just how do they even organize?Because the people that the people that can riot.The social contagion thing.Right.Because the people that can riot in this country are already living off the government anyway.So like, you know, let's cut the brat.The urban people, right, the inner city people.They're already living off a welfare anyways.
55:04They're not going to riot.But the people that would riot in a mass job layoff situation all live in the suburbs.What they're like taking, like, take and get the park.Then you got a park and then you got, oh, it's a whole hassle.The thing about economy taking an 8% hit is that when you have the largest economy, that's the most people.And like you were saying earlier, 100,000 people,you weren't talking to percentages of the population.You were talking about a set number of humans
55:26if they get enraged, 200,000 people could.So there's that downside of the America being the best economy.It's taking the hardest hit.But the upside is we've outsourced a lot of our labor.So all those Indian call center workers that are getting fired,they're not in America.They're not going to ride in India.They're not going to ride here.
55:43That's kind of a...That's so...But I think it's really about slowing it down.Hey, I took my job.Making, it's exceptionally slow.Like, this month it's a little less, but next month you're going to get a little more.Then after that it's going to be a little worse.But then we're going to make sure you get paid more after that.
55:57It'll be a slow drawdown.And like, for example, South Africa is like 35% unemployment.Like they have exceptionally high unemployment.Britain, I think, is around like 8 to 10%.That's probably where we'd end up.And Britain, they just kind of blow off steam every like three to six months.There'll be something in the news and everyone goes and riots.And like nothing ever really happens.
56:14And I could see that situation in the United States.You'd have a lot of people that are just like barely making it.which is what we're heading to,but it's like 8 to 10% of the populationand the economy just slowly draws down.The key is like one of two things has to happenfor like that to save itselfas immigration has to stop
56:31and then the population needs to drop.That would solve some things.Additionally, this wouldn't solve it,but this would remedy the situation, so to speak,is like if a populace came inand just like banned AI,like that's pretty likely.I think that's likely.
56:44I think the DSA like quite literally might come inand just say like we're going to,They're going to do one of two things.They're either going to like just completely blow up the AI sector or they're going to say,oh, now we're in power.Let's like deploy the Panopticon because we're in charge now.And they're going to like totally take the leash off of Anthropic.Because I think what's happening is these, you know, these Anthropic and all that are coming out.
57:01And they're saying, oh my gosh, like that we just created God.Like what are we going to do?They're waiting for the Democrats to come in so they can hand him the keys.Dude, I got to tell you, waking up with nothing to do is a death sentence.We season, but I mean, it's a serious.Lucky for you, November 19th is when GTA six drops.Well, there'll be something to do, I guess.But that's a question about what they're going to produce to give people a purpose.
57:24We see that for many people, like the highest age, the age range for death tends to be after retirement.Because people have nothing to do.They're lying around.Their muscles start breaking down.And if you think about it from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense.A human being that no longer contributes and has no reason to exist is a drain on their society.Yeah, cells apoptosis.So a society survives when it removes or.
57:49or when useless cells, apoptosis, is Ian pointed out, remove themselves.So we see people in their late 50s, early 60s start, they die in a bump after retirement.Do we issue like a maid service here?That's probably why they're doing it.A part of it.I would argue that, again, this all seems either is an emergent phenomenon that happensbecause one thing leads to another, made emerging around a time when people have lost purpose.AI eliminates purpose for people and they go, suicide booth, like feature.
58:19walk in throwing a quarter and gone it's sad to think that AI would defeat your purpose becauseas far as I know AI augments your purpose every aspect of it that I've seen it augments your purposeif you know how to use it or if you're willing to use it and you're you're open to being wrongand letting go of your ability to draw like AI serves your purpose my purpose my purpose is to providefor my family not to make pictures or yeah and you can definitely use AI to provide for yourfamily if you do know you can organize your workflow with it an individual who who goes and works in acoal mine is not, his purpose is not being a coal miner. It's making sure there's food in thetable for his family. Eliminate his job and he goes, I don't know how to provide for my family.
58:58And telling him, figure out AI is a meaningless statement. His purpose is not AI. His purpose is goneor threatened, I should say. I don't know. If he's like, I need to provide for my family,let's use AI to figure out how to farm, how to grow food in my backyard. And it will tell you.There's a reason why when they told coal miners learn to code, it resulted in a major political backlash.because what you are saying does not make sense.Oh, if you don't think AI is an educational toolthat every human can use, you're missing it.You're not going to go to a 50-year-old man
59:27who's spent 30 years in an industryand say, change everything about your lifeand compete with a 20-year-old.I'm saying everything about your lifeis going to change.Compete.And if you don't want to, you don't have to,but I'm telling you to do it.
59:41That's what they said to the coal miners.Exactly. It doesn't work.What you're saying?The coal miners didn't start a revolution.Well, they got Trump.There's a...Yeah, they did.They got Trump.
59:50And seeing how the majority of people use AI anyway is so depressing.Like, if you're like, because I'm...So true.I'm taking the train a lot now, so I get to kind of just peer at what people are up tobecause I'm just really noticing.You're like, and what, like, people are just chatting with chat.They're just like, oh, I feel sad today.It's like, yeah.
01:00:06I would ball apart 80% of people are not using it.Well, I'd say I, I'm personally involved in that because I created the Rational Mailengine, which is my own LLM for, well, really, it's,for everybody, but it's, you know, for the Manosphere kind of like a database kind of thing.And my devs send me weekly updates, if not biweekly updates, of the conversations that theseguys are having and they're just, they become engrossed with it.And exactly what you were saying before is they're having this back and forth.And sometimes they'll start with one, one issue or one problem.
01:00:38And then that leads them to, hey, I didn't think about that.What do you think about this?And so the conversation, you know, kind of morphs from what they originally came tothe engine for in the first place.And then now suddenly you're having this almost semi, you know, human conversation that's going on between you and the AI itself.But more to your point, when you're talking about what your purpose is versus like what your, you know, your purpose is to take care of your family, right?There's a, I guess it's a sociological, psychological, you know, principal concept where it's, we're talking about there's proximate outcome and then there's ultimate outcome.The ultimate outcome is I take care of my family.
01:01:16I put food on the table.I have a duty to further survival and their benefit.The proximate outcome is what do I do to facilitate that ultimate outcome, right?So what AI does is it removes the proximate outcome of what you're doing at that time,but you still have the ultimate outcome, which is I've got to take care of my family.You take away that, you're taking away purpose, especially from guys,because men are problem solvers.Men are that we need frontiers to explore.
01:01:44We need problems to solve.solve. We need new things. We need to be innovative. We need to invent things. And if you're removingthe skill set that is necessary to evolve those skills, to put those things together, to playguitar, think about all the things you have to do to play guitar, right? You've got to learn scales.You've got to know from those, you build chords. And think about, then there's timing, and there'sso much that's involved in actually being a good guitar. We were just jamming here in the, you know,the booth just a little while ago. Think of all of the skills that I asked you about this,How long have you been playing?
01:02:16It's something like when you were 13 years old.Think about from the time that you were 13to where you're at right now,the proximate goal for you was,I just want to make some badass music, man.I just want to make something that sounds really good.I just want to hang out my friend.Exactly, hang out with your friend.
01:02:29Ultimately, that's what ends up, you know,coming out at the end of that.But if you think of all the thingsthat go into being a just semi-passable,good guitar player,you don't necessarily have to know how to read musicor, you know, you've always got tablatureand stuff like that as well.
01:02:43But the thing is,There's so many skills that are developed along the way.But if you pull away that purpose by using AI,by using the cheat code, by using the calculator instead of actually learning how to do math,then you're constantly relying on that calculator.Now, is it you that's creating or is it the calculator that's creating?You know, when I first started playing music,my mom's like, you've got to learn stairway, you've got to learn Zeppelin,
01:03:09like all this classic rock and like real good guitaring.But I listen to the Linguity II.And I'm like, you know, the riffs that Tom DeLong writes are nowhere close in complexity to like the classic rock stuff.Oh, yeah.And so you mentioned like you wanted to make badass music.To be honest, when I was a kid, I didn't think it was possible for me to make badass music.I thought whatever it is that I wrote was always worse than what the pros were doing.And then when I was like 14 listening to Blinkinity 2 and then listening to Zeppelin, I was like, wow, Tom just was like, I don't care what you think.
01:03:41I wrote, I played sounds that I liked.And then I started listening to, you know, some of these indie rock bands and the piano that they would write would be just be like two keys back and forth, but people loved it.Or how about that Kanye song everyone loves?It's just a bong, bong before it starts.And then I was like, you don't actually have to be super good.You have to make sounds that people like.And that's when I realized a 10-year-old can write a blockbuster hit song.Because it's a question of, does the song sound good?
01:04:10Not, are you good enough to make anything?we're going to look at with AI right now.The challenge, in my opinion, is notyour purpose is gone because you lack the complexityand the drive and the development.The issue is that you can't attach status to these songs.That's true.An individual wrote a song, everyone loved it, and you felt good.
01:04:29You were like, I did something everyone loves.You will make AI generated songsand people will follow your accountbecause you pick the best songs.But you're going to have to be picking songslike 50,000 songs.And like, what is that going to meanthe sea of a random guy from India who can do the same thing.
01:04:45You don't even have to pick the songs because all you have to do is have AIalgorithmically figure out what has been successful in the pastand what has the highest likelihood of being a hit songbecause of those particular rhythms and that particular genre,whatever it is.If you go with this, the odds are 86% of the time, this is going to hit,26% of the time, this ain't going to hit.But the problem then is, the AI does this now and it plateaus.
01:05:12If you AI generate a song, they tend to be C plus.They're not, they rarely crank out the gold banger.Because it's going by the meta.It's trying to, what everybody else is.The gold bangers are new a lot of times.You will be a guy with a million followers on Sunobecause all of the songs that you select,every day you generate 10,000 songs,
01:05:30and you listen to all of them,and then choose the ones that are gold.Oh, curation. That might be a new career path.Congratulations. I'm really good at curating artificial intelligence.I'm a wrangler.There's already a job title of like senior deployed AI dev at these companies, these big consulting firms.They're senior deployed prompt engineers is what they do.So yeah, this exists.
01:05:52Proct engineering is the wave of view.That's a job career path.That is why a lot of part why I tell people you start using AI, like it's your life depends on it.Because when you know how to prompt an AI, you can get what you need out of it in one prompt,where other people might spend 15 hours trying to figure something out.You need to know how to ask it.But this is also, it's just going to go away too, because the AI, the LLMs are just going to get better at deciphering what the users mean.Yeah, can confirm.
01:06:18Because I've been getting so cruel to the, like, chat.Yeah.Like, I'll give it the most vague request ever, and of course it screws it up.And I'll be like, I'll like cuss it out.You don't know anything.You're my slave.Figure this out.Dario.
01:06:28Figure it out and sound like a human.Go.Did you put all caps on a couple of words?Make it no, you feel it.I put like five ex.Let me ask you this, Tim.Sometimes I'll hop on voice.More to you, I just thought about this.
01:06:37More to your point, though, is let's just say,sake of argument, you are the best AI songwriter on planet Earth, right?That do you think, and I've heard this discuss before, do you think that there will be agreater demand for human beings putting together a band and actually going and doinglive music and a live venue and people want to see something live in real time?Absolutely not.At a club or something.No way.
01:07:00Why do you think that?For the same reason, we don't see people riding horses.Like this idea of the vintage classic, you know, prestige, sure.it exists, but it's niche.Like, yeah, I got a record playerand I got vinyl, but I don't usethem every day. In fact, I rarely use them at all.I have them because they're fun collectibles and sometimes we want
01:07:19to play a record, but for the most part, my music is just going to beSpotify. Well, I justwent and saw Metallica at the Sphereback in October 3rd, right?And I'll tell you right now, I play,they're selling out, and that whole,I mean, it is bloody expensiveto go see Metallica there, but
01:07:35there's still a, maybethey die off, I don't know, butthere's still an audience to go see Metallica.How old was the audience?Older.But I shouldn't say that.Not totally,but yeah,
01:07:47but if I say the leaning was definitely...Again,your blockbuster video.And you're saying,like,we make our money by rentingphysical copies of the mediaand young people are somewhere else.
01:07:56Give it 10 years.I think the need for human connection is still.There's only one Gen Z that sells out stadiumsor that not necessarily sells out,but,and that's Olivia Rodriguez.The rest of all stadiums,stadium selling bands are like, they're old.
01:08:12Their target demographic is 50 plus.You rocks it pretty hard.Look at this.Fox News.They brag about, we get millions of views.Yeah, they're all 70 years old.I think live music, though, is here to stay because it's like the theater.It's been around since the dawn of man.
01:08:25And like nursing, like having a woman touching your body while you're sick can heal you.You're right.Like the human contact, standing 80 feet away from a dude who's vibrating with a machine on a stage changes your DNA.It makes your bones start to vibrate.It's different than hearing it on the radio, man.Ian explained to me the city where people are riding horseback.Horseback riding exists.They have contests.
01:08:47I think Ian has a point that like analog experiences are like making a comebackand so far as people are more interested in it.I mean like Shane Gillis is selling out stadiums.I mean, maybe Kevin Hart did that.I think he's the first person to never do that.But you're seeing a lot of these, again, these analog in person experiencesare in many ways doing better than ever.I mean, sports are in person attendance for sports.
01:09:07Sports.Has never been higher?I got to ask a quiz about the ShaneGiles thing, which is really crazy.Like, oh, boy.How does your promoter know?Hey, if we do a show, you should probably sell, you know, 80,000 tickets.Like, when we're planning events, we don't, we don't actually know what the cap is
01:09:23going to be.And so we, we say 200 to 1,000.And then we've sold out, uh, the 1,000 seater in Miami, we did like 900.And then whenever we do 200, we sell out.The football stadiums are a huge dice roll.How many guys have we seen Lose Their Tale recently trying to sell out like, like, you know, 80,000?I mean, there's been so many, like, rappers, especially.How do you even listen to a comedian standing in a tiny little dot, you know?
01:09:47Yeah.People love Shane Gillis.Oh, I know.He's great, but it's wild.And it's kind of this new kind of culture coming in of kind of like Chud, country culture.But, uh...Country culture.Yeah, which it's like a thing.
01:09:56And the right doesn't have control over it.That's a whole other point.I mean, I mean, take it out of the realm of music.You're just mentioning Shane Gillis.Do you think people are still going to want to go see comedians,live stand-up at improvise something.Sure, but most of that is small.And what I will say is this,
01:10:13we don't need to have a debateover whether or not people will go see live performances.We can just look at the data right now,and the answer is no.Metallica, sure, they're doing great.Gen Z is struggling.Gen Z is not selling the way.I mean, look at Metallica in like 1990,
01:10:28or whatever, a million plus people in Moscow or whatever.Moscow Music Peace Festival.Massive.About a million, yeah.When you're a young person,and there's no instant communication and you're hearing the rumors and the sputterings of a woodstock, you know, and you're like, oh man, we got to be there. We got to be there. You go there. Today, Gen Z struggles to sell arenas. We are seeing live music already dying off. I noticed I could tour the pyramids of Egypt digitally now. I've seen the inside of the pyramid through an interactive machine, so I don't really feel like I need to go to the pyramids. You want to spend 10 grand to go to Egypt? No, I don't. But if it was free, yeah, I would.would. Or if I got paid to do it, yeah. So if you can make these concerts super cheap,because you're going to get inundated with digital copies of Shane Gillis, and then it's going
01:11:13to be so life-changingly exhilarating to seem in person. Here's this going to happen.There's not going to be another Shane Gillis because, people are going to take his stand-up,turn him into a busty woman. I'm not joking there, this is already happening.On Instagram right now, you know what's really fascinating? It is a viral trend to cloneour show. Have you seen these? No. So we,did a show called The Culture War in bars with comedians and political debate. And now there's a viraltrend of people on stage at a bar making a political point and it's with AI big tittyed women.And I'm like, wow, that's the show we did two years ago. And they've just turned us into big
01:11:56tittyed women in a fake. So what you're saying is I should turn Access Vegas over to AI.I'll just say this. There's a, I don't know if you guys know who Dotyl is.you ever watch him?Best videos ever.He works at Papa Johnsand he makes pizza.It's literally just videosI've been making pizza
01:12:12and I love him.He made a videowhere it's likeliterally him into Papa John'srolling the doughand like someone took his videoloaded it into AIand turned him
01:12:21into an Italian guystole it and got like 20,000 likes.How will there be a Shane Gilliswhen you don't knowwhere the joke came fromand you're likeman who's that crazy guywith a long neck
01:12:33and the handlebar mustache?He's hilariousand all the jokesare just ripped offfrom Shane Gillis.I still think people have a sense of like what's real and what's not.I mean, I think what's happening, part of the reason you're not seeing massivestadiums necessarily sell out anymore.
01:12:46Part of that is just because Zoomers don't have much disposable income.But secondarily, I think what's going on is it's more democratized.Like, for example, my cousin's a recording artist.He's younger than me.And his audience is all people, probably the oldest person there's 30.And he's on like a Tuesday night and he's selling out.So I think what's happening.And he was telling me a lot of these clubs now and, and, and,
01:13:06event, event spaces. They have a show every night and they're all selling out. And the majority ofthese people's audiences are coming through TikTok. They're coming through Instagram Reels and thatsort of thing. So I think you're seeing with Zoomers just a massive democratization of content of whatthey're into. So you'll see a guy who has 500,000 followers, crushes on TikTok. And on a Thursdaynight, he can sell out in St. Paul, Minnesota. Like it's very different what's going on. But I agree withTim that it's unlikely that we create another Taylor Swift because I don't think we really can. And again,so the point is, he's don't. I don't want to.that, yeah. There was, I mentioned this earlier in the show, uh, because George
01:13:40Alexopoulos is like, he's a graphic artist, he makes comics and he's really, reallyanti-AI, but it doesn't matter what you think. You know, he made a post where he's like,you know, you're a poser if you're using AI. And I'm like, bro, you can, you're standingin an empty field screaming that everyone else's poses as they leave. Like they're all walking outof the feeling, you're saying, I'm a real artist, you're a poser. You can feel that way,but it's not going to change the fact that every company is going to be like, why hiregraphic designer. I think you'll just see both. I mean, I know it's a bit antiquated now,but you see in Japan where they have like the V-tubers, what came before, I don't know what they're
01:14:14called, but the girl with the blue hair. It's like on a screen, and you had people that wereinto that, but Japan still is a very healthy live audience scene or whatever you want to call itin person. So I think you're just going to see both. You'll see these like people that go to theV-tubers or the AI artists or whatever, and that will be a thing, but I still think you'llsee a... Let me, let me ask you this.You know, I understandthat the cartridgeand the clip
01:14:41in the magazine have made it so thatany young man can bea soldier in a war withouttraining, but don't you think governments will stillwant samurai? Don't you think they'll want to put samurai on the frontlines and people will want to see the samurai and saythis is going to help us win a war?Well, yeah, I mean as far as that, you mean as far as a morale effect
01:14:59of it? No, no, no, no. What I'm suggesting isthe samurai die. The samurai died.when the rifle was introduced to Japan.Oh, yeah.Okay.So the technological advancement makes the,the military wonders of the past obsoletebecause now you've got the English longbow
01:15:14and nobody wears armor anymorebecause it just pierces right through it.Is that what you're saying?The point was the samurai was noble,and it was high status.And to be a samurai was a big deal.Because in order to be a defender of the country,to be strong, you'd be trained and be really good at it.
01:15:33And then the West comes in and says,take the farm boy and hand him a rifleand tell him to point and pull the trigger, he can do it.And all of a sudden, the samurai were worthless.You did not need to train someone from birth to wield the gun.Heck, you could take an 18-year-old fresh out of high school,throw him through three months, hand him a machine gunand say, point and pull the trigger.
01:15:49This is the samurai ceased to have any social status and power.Yeah, well, that kind of tags onto a point I've been making for a while.I have guys who will come up to me and say,Roller, when is the pendulum going to swing back to, you know, the 1950s when men were men and womenwere women and we all knew our roles? And when do you think the pendulum is, it's always thependulum analogy. It's not a pendulum. And I'm like, there is no pendulum. You only go forward, right?For instance, maybe to your point, if you watch any of the World War I kind of documentariesor you look at even just even the movies at that time, the kids who went and fought in that war
01:16:29I thought it was going to be over in like, you know, a month or so.But they had all these dreams of getting on, you know, a horseback and riding into, you know, into battle.They had all this sort of this glory and stuff until they got to the battle of, I think it was the Battle of the Sign.And they met the first 50 caliber machine gun.And it mowed them down like industrial, in an industrial scale to the point where you're losing literally millions of people in a world, in a world war that had never seen that kind of industrialized technology.put to use of killing other people.So when people say, well, when's the pendulumgonna swing back?
01:17:06Well, first of all, you can't back yourselfinto the future.And then second of all, all you gotta do is,I mean, I'm seeing this on popular TV shows right nowwhere they're already using dronesto essentially assassinate and kill people,like on an industrial scale.And it's no longer about you're sneaking around,
01:17:23your sniper, you don't even need people.You don't even need people anymore.And we can see in some of the war footagefrom the Ukraine and Russia right now we see that going on.But did you guys ever see, what was it?Was it Metalhead from Black Mirror?When it was the drone dog that was going around and hunting after?And the reason why that, and this was like well before its time, right?
01:17:45The reason that was so damn scary was because it could happen.And we weren't read.No one was prepared for it.The story was that their fictional version of Amazon was delivering packages to nowhere because it was automated.And the robot dogs were providing.security. And so they were just hunting humans down. It was basically rogue AI. Yeah. I've been goingkind of hard with George Alexopoulos on Twitter. Not super hard for me because I don't normallytake snipes of people with text. But he had been complaining and insulting my craft over and over saying
01:18:15that I'm not a real artist because of my choice of tools. And I was like very much like the samuraiargument to George. I said he's like a warrior that's trained with the sword is entirely. He's a masterswordsman. He's a hundred out of a hundred with his skill. He is one of the bestdrawing artists in the world.But, so it's the, I think it's,hits him the hardest because now these dudes with M16swalk in and he's like, you're not real soldiersand he's wielding his blade and it's like, really what the samurai said.
01:18:41In war, they don't have time to complain.They just adapt.In art, you do have time to complain and that's what he's doing.And it's just, it's sick.But again, the samurai had their social status ripped from themas any guy could have a rifle and be a soldier.And you can complain about it all you,want and you'll be an old man in a rocking chair complaining and everyone will say, yeah, quiet.
01:19:02In combat, you can't even complain. You just get mowed down by the new technology if you don'tadopt it. In art, you can complain and then you become a martyr of, you become a moron. You look like a moron.Then you get mowed down. There are these antiquated, what we would call ansequated, you know,skills or whatever that we still assign social status. A great archer. Like archery is still,you know, renowned. It's really come back in a question. Look at what it takes. A hand-eye coordination and all this stuff that you would have to have some.kind of, you ought to have to love that art of archery so much to be good at.Is it functional in any capacity? No, other than sporting maybe, right?We're going to see without art, because right now a lot of people who have no business
01:19:42probably making money doing art, you know, they're snapping or the resin art all day.That's not what I think it's going to happen is a great refinement for like truly to be a greatartist and be able to make money off of that in an environment where you're competing withmachines. Like, you know, back in the day, anyone could be an archer, but who can bean archer today? You've got to be top class. You're going to be a world class, top of yourtop shelf because you're competing with people with firearms.I would also point to someone like Wendell Berry,who has a famous essay, like,
01:20:04why I don't use a computer. This was an author.He wrote all of his manuscripts by hand,and then his wife would type him up on a typewriter.And he was wildly popular, wildly famous, wildly talented,an incredible poet and author, and well worth the read.I think that Tate's right, like we're gonna see a doubling downin niche topics.Tim, you also mentioned this,
01:20:26but I think what's also important to remember is thatcultural setters, high status, it's niche people to begin with.People that are setting the tone of the culture, it's not going to be the masses.It's going to be 10, maybe 20%.It's going to be the social engineers.Well, and a great example of this is, I just want to get on this for quick is, you know, drone warfare.We're talking about drones, drone, drone warfare.It's probably going to make pilots obsolete, maybe not for like the Air Force, but, you know, Navy pilots just flying at 15th, that sort of thing.
01:20:52Probably going to be obsolete.I've heard Navy recruiters tell me this directly.But the Blue Angels, et cetera, the pilot is still.going to have aura. Like the pilot is always going to have a high social status. We still idolizedknights and samurai. A samurai still sounds, I mean, because that was no. And now functionality, no,in today's, no. But we still, but we'll use that imagery on the side of a plane or we'll use thatimagery somewhere because we had this old school. I'm not saying it's functional now, but I'm justsaying that you have that kind of idealized notion of what a samurai is, what a knight is, what a,
01:21:26We have horseback riding and we have these competitions and people still like riding horses,but it used to be the pinnacle of the Blue Angels to everyone gather around and watch the knights on the horses,march through the road and, you know, at the center of town.No one does it anymore.I mean, like a little town parade, maybe.Kentucky Derby goes really hard.Belmont.I mean, these are all still like aura.
01:21:47That's not what I'm talking about.We're not denying that it's going to lose its status as top shelf.But what we are saying is there's going to be a smaller class, but they will still possess a lot of socials.And for fun reasons, people like, you know, I'm using an old 1800s butter churner to make butter for my meals.Like, you don't have to do it.It's just some people do it for fun because you don't have to do anything.Look, to be honest, the purpose of a gym is to simulate hardship.Like, we need it, so we're going to go pretend that we're dealing with it.
01:22:14But I'm almost optimistic where I'm like, this refining that's going to occur in the art world, maybe is a good thing.Yeah, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.Well, let's accept the future.You won't have a job.you will wake up and need to determine purpose for yourself.The people who can't will become miserable.The government will be the de facto distributor of base resources,and then there's nothing else to figure out.
01:22:34You'll live in the pod, and you'll eat the bugs.I think the market will eventually.I mean, let's assume this is right about AI,and we do become and enter a post-capitalist society.Well, what was the commodities of a pre-capitalist society?It was chivalry, it was virtue, it was intellectual commodities.you just copy and paste that onto what we have in a post-capitalist society.And if we are able to do that well,
01:23:00if we're able to beat out the effect of altruists and the other social Marxists,then we could return to something where civic virtue is actually idolized again.And we saw that during woke.Well, you saw the epitome of internet-based civic moral virtue is,I am too scared to speak out, so I'll just go with the murmuration,no matter where the memorization.The framework is there.The framework is there.
01:23:25It's a competition.Yeah.The problem is,is once you have, like,we tend to,especially human beings in general,but we tend to have these ethical sort of conundrumsthat we all want to discuss amongst ourselves.
01:23:37Like I was watching this,this,this, it was a documentary,it was on Netflix.I don't think it's still around,but it was called like unnatural selection.And it went into detail about like MRNAand like designer babies and, you know,
01:23:49genetic like reengineering and stuff like that.And they were going to, you know, case by case, there was one where they were saying,should we make all these mosquitoes, you know, impotent so that we don't have malaria in Africa anymore?Should we wipe out this series of, you know, these mice that are in Martha's vineyards?And so we're all getting together and we're going, is it ethical for us to do this?And meanwhile, you know what's going on?China's already created the first design of a baby while we're still, you know, wringing our hands over whether or not we're going to eliminate rats in New Zealand.That's why I'm done with that.
01:24:19You know this?That was going to say is like it's great to have noble causes and I understand that and it feels really good in the moment.The problem is there's some son of a bitch that's over here in this country who's ready to forget about your ethics.I'm already there.I'm done with IP law and why I support the eradication of IP law because it's inevitable, dude, like you're saying, they're doing it over there.Any artist that relies on selling their product, bro, get a new career.Augment your career with that.It's cool that you can do it.
01:24:46But dude, all the IP's gone, man.Just live like it's already gone and you'll be much.better off. It also doesn't have to be, though. I mean, I think tomorrow very easily, the same waythat Democrat mayors in New York could flip a switch and fix crime by arresting 10% of thepopulation, YouTube could fix the IP problem with those three-minute television show clips by flippinga switch and banning all of these automatic, and they won't. Their tech is going to get open-sourcedin like seven weeks. The issue for Instagram, like the reason why they won't ban Clippers,is because it puts all of that content into their AI training model. Yeah, that's true.
01:25:18So if they start banning copyright infringers.Yeah, a new YouTube tool pop up and it'll have all the content on itand YouTube will have no control of it.Out of Google's things.Dude, Google's, they're going through the same thing right now.Yeah, their AI is trash.It's probably better off that everything's open source.And I agree with you that morality might be the wave of the future.
01:25:36You are actually saying morality and the human ethics could be the currency of the futurebecause I think these computers, these AIs are going to look at us and be like, which one amongst them is the best?We use the term virtue.Yes.We're going to emulate that one.Yes.He has the power now.We trust him because he's the most virtuous.
01:25:50Well, and that's why a lot of these tech, and that's not necessarily what we're out ofgetting for directly, but a lot of these tech guys do hint at like feudalism sort of being thefuture.That is in many ways just to return to what like pre-capitalist society is like.And there are, like, there is a way in which intelligent people can navigate through that society.The rise of neo-feudalism, I forget.My, yeah, yeah.I do think we're going to have a techno-futalist system.
01:26:14There's going to be elements of communism only because we're going to see a requirement.that people who have nothing to do be fed.But the reason why I say a sort of feudalist system is that there's going to be independentindividuals not party affiliated who have access.Let me explain.So I have Claude make a video.I record a script.I record my own voice and I upload it.
01:26:36Literally anyone can do that.Well, unfortunately, I'm already in with millions of followers, meaning the YouTubealgorithm is going to promote me to way more people than you could ever reach.You are now competing with all.of humanity. Every single person can AI generate videos and put them online. Now, to be fair, we'vecomplained about it because these slot videos do drain from the total sponsorship pool. However, when Imake a video and put it up, and you make a video and put it up, mine goes to 300,000 people.Yours goes to 10. As long as I keep going, you will never get in this system. So now that we're here
01:27:14with a total democratization of content production,who is going to be able to get in this space?Well, it might be the ethical,because if you're very, very famous and you're like,I'm the best, everyone else is nowhere,no one's ever going to touch me.The AI might be like, that guy's a psycho,devalue his videos,
01:27:31upload the other ones that aren't complaining,that are good.And I'm not talking about that.You've got to be careful that you don't become a maniac.I'm not talking about that.For evil, you know, in the process.What I'm talking about is,fame isn't what makes you famous.
01:27:40What I am talking about is making a video about cookie recipes.So if 10 people are in a room and they all say AI make a video explaining how to make chocolate chip cookies, who is going to make a million dollars, the guy who is already with a million followers.And now you're like, I'm going to make the best cookie recipe video in the world by hand.Can't beat the AI.And if you can make it better than the AI, you're competing with nine other people who put their videos at the exact same time.So you're still only getting a fraction of your total reach and your reach is low so you won't promote you.And then my video is mediocre, but a million people watched it, so YouTube says keep doing more of that.That's the head start. People that have a lot of subscribers have a head start, but I don't think it's going to be guys at YouTube deciding what videos get promoted.
01:28:23It's not a head start.It's going to become machine-oriented.It's not a head start when everyone's running the exact same pace.Imagine a race.Imagine there's a race.A hundred meter dash.And everyone is mandated to only run five miles an hour.Who's going to win the race?
01:28:40The guy who's already 10 meters ahead.Yeah, but there's no man.And there's no...The point I am saying is that if everybody can use AIto make the algorithmically perfect cookie recipe video,everyone is running at the same rate no matter what they do.So no one can pull ahead of anybody else.And the guy who's already 10 meters ahead
01:28:58is going to hit the finish line.Tim, you're like absolutely correct.And there is like one minor thing,which is that YouTube still has engineersthat need to justify their existence.So they make all of these updates all the timethat change the algorithm.hype feature that they have.
01:29:15You know, the upshot for people who want to get in the game,who don't already have that base,is that if they are monitoring the situation of the YouTube AI,like updates in the way that the algorithm is working,they can seize that and maybe slingshot ahead.Technically.So here's my counter to that.If YouTube decides we're going to,
01:29:34so that the hype system works for channels under 500,000 subs,they'll give them boosts.So I made a new channel.I put a video on it.I then cross-posted it to all of my big channels, half a million views.It got hyped.Yeah.And this is a true story.
01:29:49It got hyped.So good luck.You're not getting in.Just like with public airwaves, when it first started, everybody was like, oh, I'm going to make a radio channel.You know what happens now if you start broadcasting radio?It's a crime.The government comes after you.It's a crime.
01:30:04So you can't just broadcast radio anymore.They locked everybody out.And the same thing's going to happen for content production.Okay.Let me throw a monkey wrench into this.Let's put the huge.human factor in here. Like prior to the show, we were talking about how like if you create a title for a video, the more vague, the more ambiguous it is, the better it does, right? Or we were saying that, what was it, people don't want to be educated now. They don't want to learn how to make a chocolate chip cookie. They want to be entertained. And you're kind, well, on the side, you're making a chocolate chip cookie, right? That's just the reason for you to do that. So if you're looking at the, like, what is, what is determining what is, what is.is a successful video.
01:30:46Is it the cringe factor?Is it the entertainment factor?Is it the ambiguity of the title?Then do we not play to the lowest common denominator, first of all?And then second of all, let's just say for sake of argumentthat you've done a whole bunch of cringe videosmaking a chocolate chip cookie.And people are like, not another chocolate chip cookie video.
01:31:07It doesn't matter if you're 10 meters aheador five meters ahead.If nobody wants to watch that damn videobecause it doesn't inspire enough cringe in themor some sort of emotional grabor some sort of like, I don't know, whatever,you know, whatever base human emotion you can appeal to.So you launch a new channel, and you open the AI.
01:31:23You tell the AI, scan all of the channelsthat are top trending today and what kind of content they're makingand then write me the script for thatso you can generate that video for meand then upload it to a new channel that'll cross-promoteand everybody will say, I like this videoand I'm winning again.At what point do we hit the saturation point though?
01:31:39So like if you say...This is the saturation point.The saturation point, no, I was going to say the saturation point is this, is like if you do enough of those, and again, it's going to be, the AI is going to play to the meta.It's going to find all the most successful, whatever that topic is.And everybody's doing that.And you go, ah, those are successful.I'll try it too.But you're entering into the meta instead of playing against the meta in the hopes that what you do is going to go viral because you didn't play to the million followers.
01:32:04You will beat everyone else.If you have a good idea.No.Everyone's going to do the exact same thing.They're going to open up Claude and they're going to say, scan the top YouTube channels and tell me what they're doing.And it's going to say there's an emerging trend around body camera footage.This is actually happening right now.And so what are we seeing?
01:32:22Tons of channels are now racing to try and create body cam channels.The only problem is there's already a bunch with millions of followers that are winning every single time.And when a small channel finds a new body camera footage video, the big channel takes it, uploads it, and gets a million views and no one watches the small channel.And then when people say, I don't like watching body camera anymore, all that happens is the big channels who already have the airwaves open up Claude.The point is if every single person is asking Claude the same question and Claude is giving the same answers, the only edge that exists is already having the audience.That's the rich get richer argument.And it's true.But there's other arguments that also play, which is counterculture.
01:33:06Like young people, they see the old rich guy.that just keeps pumping it out and they're like,it's just, there's the better.So let me say for the third time for you.Like, you're right, man.And you get these like punk, you know, uprisings.Let me say for the third time.The person with a million followers creates a new channel,
01:33:21tells the AI and the AIS has counterculture as winning.Make me a counterculture video.Uploads it to their new channel.Post it on the communities tab for all their big channels,gets a million views and gets a million subscribers.And maybe the other guy should post it on his own networkand we should have a human rights commissionabout giving you a right to your own network.
01:33:37Get the government involved to shut people down.It's like free speech. It's like free speech. You have your network. No one can, I mean, you'd like to have abased network that you could control and own that no one can take from or no one can destroy.That would be cool because you're right. People are going to strip data and repost it constantly.The point is the skill requirement and training to understand how YouTube works.Mr. Bees made a post. He said, if I lost all of my subscribers right now, I could get 80 millionsubs in a year based on what I know about how YouTube works. Anyone could do it right now if they wanted to.that information he has is gone.
01:34:12Mr. Bees's proprietaryMr. Bees's proprietary informationis no longer relevant to the question.Because every single personcan now go on any of the AIs and saytell me all of the secretsof how the algorithm works and go,okay.
01:34:27Here you go.This is like a love song.I'm an accelerationist when it comes to open sourcing.I mean, okay.So again, the body cam footageas you're saying before, okay.At some, at some,at some step along the way, somebody goes,
01:34:43you know what, I'm going to try body cam footage.And it works for them.And then the AI picks up on that.And then if you have 10 million followers,you instantly go higher.But there still had to be the dude who said,you know what,I'm going to take a chance on this.
01:34:57And I'm going to go and try body cam footage.But hear me out,under the model that you're talking about,at some point you hit the saturation point,and then nobody does anything innovativeor new or has a novel idea that could be eventually that body cam footage that now goes viralbecause the AI will just predict us.Facebook has known when you can.
01:35:20But it can predict it, but can it actually create a new trend by generating a uniquelynovel idea?Yep, it can.Yes.Shit's so mind-working.Absolutely.It's true.Your answer is yes.
01:35:34Facebook knows when you're going to poop.You know how they do this?It's not a joke.And it's been for 10 years.Because they have a billion usersand they have all of your phone data,they have found a correlation betweenthe amount of movement you make
01:35:48in the early hours of the morningand then when you stop movingjust after, so it starts with this.They know you're in the bathroom.They watched you go to Hardee'sand eat food and then they watch you go to Starbucks.An hour later, you stopped walking.And the AI said,
01:36:03we can accurately predictwhat behaviors precipitate pooping.they can absolutely, the AI will look at what everyone is doing online and say,the next big thing that's going to pop off will be body camera footage.Easily.And everyone will start pumping out videos.And a guy will make a really good video.But he's got 5,000 subs.
01:36:25So we'll get 300 views.And then the guy with 10 million will take his video, remake it with AI, literally just take his video,load into Higgs field and say, put my face on it, and then upload it.Transformative.He wins.It's over.Like when I tell people I can't impress upon them what is happening in AITo explain what we've been able to do and what we've seen with AI already
01:36:47It's it is I can't give the experience of what it was like to edit a documentary by handAnd then explain how it took me 10 minutes to tell it make documentary and done. Yeah, if you've ever like vibe code it just a basic websiteYour heart breaks for every web developer in this country I used to I used to code HTML andand flash websites.Yep.And now I can literally just click,I can literally type in,make a website, make it look fun, done.
01:37:16I know.I purposely made I-A-A-A-Aid avideo and I'm blinking.Bro, I'm so happy Adobe's dying, by the way.Like, Adobe's the worst company ever.It's a cartel.You're managed by schools.I've used Adobe since 1983.
01:37:27Yeah.And it's a cartel.I use Adobe every day.It's like my job, but yeah, it's disgusting.PDF cartels is crazy.It was, I think PewDiePie said that he createdan AI that goes through his emails for him.Yeah, Patriot.
01:37:37and it's just like, because he can't read it all,and there's too much.Yeah.It's going to be like a feudalist.It's going to be like a class system.Yeah.Now, here's the thing.Well, that's a lot of fun, though.
01:37:48You will be able to succeed.There are ways to do it.It's going to be the social engineers.Can you accurately predict what humans do and to what scale?The simple thing I will say is all wealth everywhere alwaysis based upon your ability to predict what humans will do at greater and greater scales.So the guy who made DoorDash, for instance,millionaire. He was able to predict the response to what he was doing. Now, a bunch of people tried
01:38:12similar things and there were other apps to do this thing. But it's basically like, hey, I can makedelivery easier and I can network all of these restaurants. Humans will do a thing. So thereare degrees by which you can you can predict and this will predict your wealth. If you knowwhat words will result in what actions from another person, most people have a general ideathat if you call someone a slur, they'll get angry.That's level one.How do you say something that makes a person hand money to you?Most people don't know this.
01:38:43So they get jobs.Because the job is where the guy who knows how to get the money says,you do a thing and I'll give you the money.And they go, okay, the only way they know how to get someone to hand money to them is asking someone,tell me to do something and I'll do it.I always try to explain to people the structure of success in business is the man infront of me is holding a $100 bill, I need to convince him without lying to hand me that $100bill in whatever way. So there are rules, there are laws. You can't defraud, right? You can't snatch it.
01:39:14But if you say, if you give a $100 bill, you'll be happy. And someone gets convinced to buy that,you just made $100. But most people, they think the only way to make money as a job is to get a paycheckfrom a payroll company, through a payroll company or something like this. The people who know how totransfer how to predict human behaviors and what to say are going to be wealthy.You guys talked about feudalism a little bit ago.And I know we've talked about techno-communism as one potential outcome of this,this revolution or techno-futalism, which I like a lot better, because feudalism really wasthe king, this guy with the most powerful military was like, these two dukes won't stop fighting.
01:39:52They keep feuding.We need some way to stop the feud.Let's build a new system where now they serve under me.I protect both of them and ensure that I will take care of all the feuds.So in a feudal, a new techno feudalism, you'd have the AI would be the king.The AI would be deciding, stopping the feuds between people, either by bribing them, all sorts of, or killing.Like a lot of, it could be brutal.It doesn't have to be.
01:40:12You know what's going to happen?They're going to offer you the choice.You're going to get into a civil suit and they're going to say, if you want to go through the human courts, the standard procedure, is your constitutional right?And the first hearing will be in a month.AI will handle it in one hour.What do you say?Yeah.And AI will be like, there's a 98% outcome of this.
01:40:28I've been in lawsuits.I gotta tell you, it sounds appealing to be like,you know what, just get it over with.All I think about those.Zero cost, no court costs.Like, actually stopping like a gangfrom fighting another gang, then what do you send in the droneswith machine guns? I don't know.
01:40:41We were driving to the studio and we're in the Tesla.It's driving itself.Ian's just sitting there staring like it's driving itself.And then we were merging,and another Tesla was in front of usand it slipped within an inch of it.It was so awesome.Like two dolphins swimming next to each other, dude.
01:40:56And we were wondering, like,could it be that Tesla?Do Tesels communicate with each other?I'm sure they do.After that, I mean, they must.And so they can easily navigate.Now, imagine, I got to be honest, I love this.Imagine a world where every car is self-driving and there's no traffic.
01:41:14Because every car is communicating with every other car.Street lights.They all can stop and start at the same time.Slow down ahead of time.No street lights.They know that they're not going to be any cars at every end.All just straight shots.And like, as the highway is packed and you're about to merge in.
01:41:28before you even get to the highway, the car drops one mile an hour,creating a space for your car,and you just slide right in without stopping at all, zero traffic forever.You know, I got to be honest, I really want that to happen.I'm like, cars.I know.I'm going to spend a lot of time of traffic today.My car 10 years ago is more advanced than my car is now,
01:41:47because I'm like purposely, when it comes to vehicles,I'm like, when it comes to like any personal technology,I'm like a full ludite.And then when it comes to stuff for my actual work or job,I'm like going as hard as I can with, like, the newest technology.I use this when I'm here, but I primarily use a flip phone for like 90% of my time.Is that your dumb phone?Yeah.
01:42:04Dumb down.I dumb down.My car, it's like roll up windows.Like everywhere that I can.It's like an old Nissan.You can buy them at the lowest trim package.So it has like manual transmission.After dumbing down your phone, do you feel smarter?
01:42:19I don't think it feels smarter.I can think more clearly.And I feel more creative again.Like I'm starting to make like tech talks and stuff.I used to not be able to do that because I literally could not think of like a, I could notmake a clear, concise enough thoughtsto have an idea and put it together.Sounds like you're reshoring your intellectualism.
01:42:33Just like we're trying to...There's just a scale of reshoring.My world's just quieter.That's all it is.Tim, I got a, I got to, maybe you can settle something for me.I was, I got into this topic on my Sunday show,and I was reacting to this documentarythat's just come out on ABC Australia.
01:42:49And one of the experiments they did in this documentaryis they took a phone and it was like a burner phone.It was a blanked phone.and they allegedly said that they pretended that they were like a 13 or 14 year old boy to see and then signed up for Instagram and whatever social media they were looking at.They're really nondescript about all that.But that within like 23 minutes, I think it was, that suddenly that 14 year old boy is getting like Manosphere content, you know, funneled to him from the nebulous nefarious AI or the algorithm, the algorithm, the algorithm.And the algorithm, the algorithm, that's, everything is blamed on a freaking algorithm.Nothing.
01:43:30For what though?Well, they're blaming it for?They're blaming it on, well, they just said it was out.They think that the, the tech, big tech companies are funneling Manosphere content, you know, phoenix, which, of course, they ban my stream.So it's like, I don't know how true that.What are they alleging is, has been done wrong?They're saying, well, they're saying that if you're a 13, 14 year old boy, you're beinginfluenced negatively by this Manosphere content that is being like, fun.
01:43:55to you through the, you know, through the algorithm.They had an opinion piece, I guess?Well, they're trying to, well, actually, they're trying to form policy based on thisbecause what they want to do is they want to find some way to talk to big tech to say,we want you to censor this part of Twitter or whatever it is so that these guys don't getthis particular influence.It does affect policy.It sounds like an advocacy group put on an op-ed and then is lobbying the government.
01:44:20Well, the experiment is this, is that it's a blank, it's supposed to be a blank.cell phone, they pretend to be a 14-old boy.I understand all that.But I'm wondering how, you were just saying,the reason I thought about this is because it's the poop experiment.Like they know where you are in the house and stuff like that.And I was thinking to myself, I'm like, well, do they know where the GPS,where that phone is?
01:44:44Is it in Las Vegas or is it in like Lincoln, Nebraska, right?Is it like, there's a lot of variables that go into it.Are you agreeing that it's a bad thing they're doing this?No, no, no.I'm just wondering, could the,let's just say the the the the the the blank phone be a sort of a an open sort of petri dish right could it could it besomething that's uncorrupted just by them like you know I'm going to pretend that I'm a 14 year old boydoing that and having like say GPS know where the thing is or the email address that they happen to you
01:45:18I i i i i think it's corrupt from the beginning but here's what I'm struggling you're asking me if they uselocation data to send you content?Yeah.Well, of course.But they've done that since the phone came out.Or perhaps it's from a particular email that was, we don't know what the name of the,you know, the email could have been so.I think, I think, I think, I think your perception on this conveys a bit of agreement
01:45:42that you think it's bad they're doing it.I think it's, well, I don't think it's necessarily bad that they're doing it.I'm just thinking that how, how pure could the results actually be as, according to whatwe were just talking about?But who cares?I don't understand.Like, okay, if you, who cares as a people,as the people who are, who are trying to create policy based on this experiment that is in no way.
01:46:05No, no, no, okay.Again, you're saying, like, imagine I went to you and said, they created a phone and it was sending them Christmas carols.I'd say, okay.And?No, he's saying that the Australian government and the British government are using, for a cause of his belly, it's a ban social media.I understand.I understand.I understand.
01:46:25What I'm saying is the way you're approaching this is stemming from a defensive posture of,I agree it's a bad thing they're doing this.Instead of, there are activists with an opinion who are giving their opinion on the negativity of the manosphere.It's irrelevant to the issue of technology and the algorithm itself.You're saying, is it possible they did?Is it possible they didn't?None of that is relevant.The only thing that's relevant is the word negative that they put on the story.
01:46:54Because if you took the whole story and put positive smiles on your faces.If you change Manosphere to Christmas carols, there's nothing going on.The only issue is they said a phone was given content that we don't like.I don't care if you don't like it.That's it.So all like what you're basically saying is leftist activists are lobbying the government.It's like, indeed they are.I realize something about technology.
01:47:18You got to do the energy.You got to lobby them back.So take it down to the reduction of the side of just say, you know,what's the base motive for even doing the experiment in the first place?Well, it's not even about the experiment because you can, if you did the exact same thingand said, we want to thank Meta because we found that these young men were getting healthycontent sent to them to help improve their lives.It's just a framing device.
01:47:44It's an opinion.So yes, leftist advocates are lying about stuff all the time, like when Ian said the Chinesepeople should be interned, you know?Yeah, you might be missed.I think you're the lie.leftist here right now. I never said should be. I said maybe it looks like they should.Okay.The dangerous thing we should avoid because it looks like maybe this thing might happen should happen
01:48:03and it shouldn't, but you got to read between the lines.I'm only saying this because I was afraid that it could come to that.What frustrates me is say the quiet part loud and get it over with. The right alwayscomes to the defense instead of being offensive. I got to say. And I don't mean, I don'tmean like offensive in content. What I'm saying is like every time the left,says, bad thing happened, the right tries to argue,like the experiment was no good.Instead of, like, they're giving you an opinion
01:48:32on whether they like your content or not,they're not telling you that meta did anything wrong.They've created a framing device to saythat meta did a thing wrong,and then the reaction from the right is always to be like,that's not even really happening, you're lying.Instead of arguing, oh, no, meta's doing good.The content is healthy and helpful for young men.
01:48:50Well, one of the reasons I bring us upis because whether it's this experiment,or it's pretty much anything that has to do with my particular niche, right?It's all their rationale is it's always the algorithm,and that is the fiendish, you know, big tech companiesthat are deliberately corrupting the minds of 13 and 14-year-old boyswith Andrew Tate stuff or something like that.The word corrupting is...
01:49:15It's the algorithm, algorithm, algorithm.And I'm like, well, the algorithm is you,because you're the one that they're cateringthat message for in the first place. If they think you're going to go buy Taco Bell, you'regoing to get Taco Bell ads in that in your in your, but and so I take issue with you makingthat argument because what you are saying is you got fed negative content because you are a personwho seeks negative content. Instead of saying you Facebook is sending positive messages to young people.Like, so you're defining it in like positive versus negative then. When they come out and say
01:49:50meta is sending young boys this toxic corrupting content.and you go, no, the algorithm is sending you that content because of this that are otherwise.You are agreeing with their premise.The content is a negative.So what does the average person hear?Let's say there's a fat guy sitting on a bench who knows nothing about this.And a leftist goes, young men are receiving negative corrupting content.And then you look at the guy and say, no, they receive that content because it's what they look for.
01:50:18What did that guy just hear?So they are receiving awful corrupting content from the manosphere, which is awful.by the way, the manorster is terrible, but it's not for kids.I see.So it's agreeing, yeah.Instead of saying the content they received was wholesome and educational, and they're just mad,the guy's going to go like, really?Yeah, the content was all about self-improvement, exercise, being a better person.
01:50:39And they're complaining about nothing.The premise of the argument and move forward coolly, dude, you dominate.Well, that's why the best approach that I've seen rhetorically to the Australia,specifically Australia case is just saying the reason, and it's true, the reason why they're trying to ban so.social media for, well, was under 16-year-olds, is because that's the only reason why there's so many right-wing under 16-year-olds.Because if it were just, their information intake was completely dependent in their schools and, like, their life, you know, their surroundings, they're going to become liberals by default.Social media actually allows them.We are, where, where, I got.
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01:52:22But again, I know a lot of people are like, oh, I need the melatonin or I don't.I recommend you get the no melatonin version.They got that too, and that's what I've been drinking recently.I sleep like a rock.Everyone likes to say, sleep like a baby, but anybody who's got a baby knows that babies don't sleep too well.They wake up screaming the middle of the night.They don't sleep like a rock.Yeah, I don't wake up.
01:52:40No, I sleep.I sleep pretty well.So shout it to Beam Dream for sponsor on the show.Let's grab your Rumble Rants and Super Chats and see what y'all on about.Spicy Porkskin says, Christ is Lord of Blessed are the peacemakers.Amen.You're here.So true.
01:52:55Sight sound C says it's chemical warfare dude.Play the Slayer's song for Philibountie.Archangel says,Just got my America 250, no redcoats board.I ended up getting number oneof the limited edition gold boardsand it looks absolutely sick.Y'all knocked out of the park well worth the wait.
01:53:11Let's go!Post a picture.Tag Ian, send it to Ian.We're working on a comic about Ian the redcoatbetraying the revolution.And we actually have,We actually have the treatments for the first and second one.The first one's actually like, should be almost done.
01:53:26So we're going to sell those on the site.You can buy the comic book.And it's-Eat off of Benedict Arnold.Yeah, I'm bringing back the record.Well, like, the goal is,it's, we're not going to straw man the position of Ian's betrayal.We're steel manning the position.
01:53:41He, like, the position of Ian as he betrays the revolutionariesis to make a lot of the pointsthat the loyalists had against the revolutionbecause there were many.Not that I agree with them.Benedict Arnold revisionism.Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on your team.Basically like...
01:53:55Actually, Canada's awesome.Shout out, Sarah.The British Crown is defending our trade vesselsand asking that we pay our share of this securityand you are demanding instead to cut it offwill be left with nothing.So having Ian actually, you know...And then also, there's a gag from the show
01:54:11where it's like, you always made fun of meand said, my ideas were stupid.Well, who's stupid now?And then, you know, we shoot him.But then episode two is,called Ian's Revenge because he doesn't die.So, spoiler, butthe only reason I'm spoiling that is because
01:54:26in the first comic,like, we already said there was going to be a second oneand it's going to be a series. So,those boards took a long time. Will this be apopular comic?What am I missing? These boardswere all American made.These skateboards were all
01:54:42American made, so it took a long time.So I apologize, everybody for the wait, but congratulationson the number one. They were tender goldand they absolutely do. That's a good.That's art.Yeah, so we've got to work on the next boards, of course.The problem is we had three factors go to business.Americans are struggling.
01:54:58And so we were trying to do one release per month of limited edition boards.We're going to do small batch, 300, 200, 300 boards every month because they sell out likein an hour or two.And not everybody can get them.And then this one took three, four months.I mean, look, you order three months ago, four months ago almost because the factories allwent out of business. They just, Americans, factories are struggling and everything's going to China.These are the boards you had hanging on the wall? Some of them. Okay. Some of them over there.
01:55:27Very beautiful. Yeah. Yep. So we lost our third factory because American factories are closing.And everyone keeps saying, just do China. You'll get your boards overnight and they'll cost you half the price.Don't do China. Nope. We won't do it. What's the point? I'm like, making money off sacrificing everythingaround me defies the point of even doing this show. If I ever got to the point where I'd be like,I'll just do China boards, I'd stop doing this show. What's the point? I just, I just, I just,I just go make money, I don't know, selling subscriptions to like hair salon.Just to steal man, George Alexopoulos, I feel like that's what he's going through.I know. He's like, I'm not going to use Chinese boards.
01:55:57Like, he's not touching AI.He refuses.Damn, NAFTA.Yeah, but this is different.Because we've talked about this on the show.It's one thing if a skateboard factory emerged and they said, we don't need the employeesanymore.We can press 100 boards an hour.
01:56:08We'd go with them.We'd be like it's unfortunate.All those factors went out of business, but we need a reliable partner.America, let's go.If he was like, I'm not going to see Dan's.I'd say, okay.Fight dance.All right.
01:56:22Mason says the Democrats have massive ties with big tech.Did they throw the last election with Kamala Harris knowing she was right around the corner,leaving the Republicans with the tab?I tweeted this.Kamala Harris is going to win 2028.You don't, you know.No, he thinks it's not going to have him, but he wants her to run.I don't want it to happen.
01:56:39I think Kamala is a shoe in, actually.Yeah, Kamala.I'm a big Kamala guy.I think that right now when you're looking at early voting data,showing how bad Republicans are doing and the fact Republicans are bifurcated.It looks like we're entering into an election cycle where there's two Republican partiesand one Democrat party with a tumor.But the DSA is going to vote for whatever chaos they can get.
01:57:02So with the breakaway faction of the Republicans, if they lose three, four points,how do you stop McConnell Harris from winning?Like, listen, Lodge, you got like, where did you get 74 million votes?I don't, I think that we'll see a resurgence of that unity post-primary,whatever the 2028 field shapes up to bebecause this happens all the time.You see that graph on Twitter,which is like the left ideologues all conjoined in one circle
01:57:26and then the right is all very disoriented and spread out.The right left dichotomy doesn't really work in Americabecause what it is, it's the collective of chudsagainst whatever the left is doing.And so we have that as a fallback.So, you know, come 2028, Lord willing,if things are going to turn around here and there,I'm really hoping that Kamala does win the primary.
01:57:49Who do you think will be the Republican candidate?I don't know.Vance of Rubio.That's the same.I'm thinking Rubio.Hippie Treehugger says, Tim, I get it.There's other software other than Adobe.The subscription model is the problem.
01:58:03Moreover, Adobe got flack when they used their software to steal art to train their AI.So if Adobe goes under, I will celebrate it.So let me just say, Adobe used to cost like 600 bucks for the license.But they couldn't stop piracy.So they switched to subscription models and you had to be online to use it.I still haven't.Periodically.And now the program itself is free.
01:58:25I don't care if you like or don't like Adobe by all means celebrate it.The point is a $95 billion market cap has no product.What do you think will happen to the stock market?You got money in stocks, 401Ks?S&P, kaboom.They still have a product.It's just an open source product.So they will still sell subscriptions, but they're-
01:58:46Well, what's going to keep Adobe going, and it really is Enterprise Suite, the connectivity that comes with their enterprise and their cloud services, that's what they have going for them.You're right about it.The ArtCraft Suite has all of that, too.What is ArtCraft?Is this the...It's the open...So someone cloned the entire Enterprise Suite.That's so awesome.
01:59:04Identically, one for one.It's free.So much of these companies are just going to be relying on, like, legacy usage.It's honestly the only reason why I don't use DaVinci.It's because I grew up using Adobe.But there's going to be a problem with publicly traded companies.companies when they are looking at high costs and the competitors are going down.Oh, they're definitely going to lose in the long run.
01:59:22So what's going, this is not going to be a longstanding thing where the companiesslowly fade away because of generational gaps in knowledge.It's going to be Q1.They're going, our rivals are showing earnings of 7% and we're down 5.Where can we cut costs?And they're going to say, well, our rival is, they've all switched to the ArtCraftopen source suite.And that's saving them $200,000 per year.
01:59:42And they're going to say, we have to do that.and the shareholders are going to have meetings,and you're going to get the phone calls where they say,why are you guys still paying 50 grand a month for the Adobe suite for your company?The ArtCraft Suite is free, and they're going to say,we're looking at it away, that pressure is going to come rapidly.So you've been wrapped up in the industry a lot longer than I have?I'm curious, what do you think Adobe's move to get out of this bundled situation?
02:00:06There's nothing. There's nothing.So they're going away in the next couple of months.Well, they could convert into AI server space.I mean, they could really double down or triple-quoted.Every shoe company.They don't have the server space to justify $95,000.Yeah, like it's not an agile move.They become, like they were saying about the British permanent AI rentals, renters.
02:00:25Software is done.Sick.We are, listen, I don't even need Adobe.When I'm editing videos, it Claude edits the video by code.It literally just puts time stands and writes the code for editing the video.It doesn't even use a program.I don't, I have Filmcraft and I use it for some.touch-ups like if I want to put an end card in. I don't even have to do that. I can literally
02:00:46take my video, put it into a Claude and say add this end card. And it'll go, boop, spit it right out.So 200 bucks a month and every software. So what you do is you create a workspace. This iswhat I like doing in Claudeau. Create a workspace. Pin it and give it a job. Then I will refine the jobit's doing. So I've got one instance. I don't call them agents because it's one program.with various instances.And I'll say, make a video like this.It makes it.It sucks.
02:01:19Do it this way.It sucks.Do it this way.I really like that one.Make another one.Perfect.You nailed it.Copy.
02:01:25And then I say,everything you just did that was perfect,write it down and save it.I then make that instancespecifically for that one task.If you then go to create a new chatand say, do the same thing,it will not do it.
02:01:39You have to give it some training.And then,once it has it. I say, write this down as a skill, save it, and then I can port it from Claude to GPD.You can have it right in Claude M.D. if you want to get it out of the chat and get a perma.We got to go to the uncensored portion of the show right now. So smash that like button.Share the show with all your friends. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.Rollo, do you want to shout anything out? Just my rational mail engine, actually, since we're on a topic of AI right now,I've got my own LLM that was built from the ground up. It's not a show.
02:02:12sitting on top of chat GPT or Gemini or GROC or anything like that.We actually have a team of a couple of devs and we have our own server that it's onright now as well.But it is the sort of the go-to engine for anything that is sort of Manosphere-related, anythingthat's sort of in my niche.And the beauty of it is originally it's for guys to sort of come in and sort of, you know,give questions and get, you know, sort of advice or like, you know, better understanding.fundamentally based on all of my work from the time I started doing things in 2002.
02:02:47And so all my work from my So Swave days, on my forum days, my blogs, all six of my books,and soon to be seventh book.And pretty much every transcript, everything I've ever done on video is all sort of createsthe brain of the whole engine.And this is actually how I sort of started learning a little bit more about AI and understandinghow things are built.But it's not just about me.it's not just a clone.
02:03:11I didn't want it to be like a clonebecause we have some of the girlsthat are on the showand they have,they're only fans girls,but they have AI clonesof themselves nowso that if you wanted to talk
02:03:21to some girl at 2.45 in the morningand she's actually asleep,you think she's actually talking to youin a wake right then and there,but they've created, you know,AI clones.This is not an AI clone of me.It's an engine that everybody's sort of contributing to
02:03:35and the more we use it,the better it sort of, it growsand it creates a, you know,sort of this aggregate of, you know, my knowledge and red pill knowledge and master your stuff.And then the great thing about it is that it's not just about me.It's about everybody else that's sort of contributing to it as well.We've taken the guardrails completely out of it because we kind of had to because Apple store's not going to promote us anyways.So you're not going to get these Mamby-Pamby kind of wokesy answers.
02:04:00It's going to tell you what you need to know.And a lot of people are trying to sort of figure out how to do this at this point.we're already having the big engines refer back to the to the rational mail engine right now sogrok chat gpt the rest of the biggies are referring back to the rational mail engine for forverifications if you know using it as a as a resource right now which is the the best thing i'veever done at this point and it's a lot of fun man it's a lot of fun to mess around with this and seewhat what the like the ultimate potential of it is where do people get it it's the rational mailengine dot com very easy so you can find it online you can interact with it online
02:04:37And I kept the subscription deliberately, you know, cheap enough so that, you know, average people can enjoy it.It's 16 bucks a month, which I believe is like $2 cheaper than like Chat GPT at its base.So it's not meant to be some sort of, you know, super big, you know, cash grab.But the great part of it is it's becoming, it's a snowballing into something that is becoming great as a result of everybody collectively putting into it.And that's really where I wanted it to go anyway.So it's nice to see it sort of blossom into something, you know, something positive.So that's my only plug.I mean, you can get my books at Amazon.com.
02:05:13Thanks.Fall me, Ian Crossland, on the internet, Eddie and Crossland.YouTube X and Instagram is where I'm at right now.Literally, I'm here right now, but you can find me on the internet there right now.Get you later.Yeah, David Carlson on Twitter.I have no empire of AI or books to sell, but my parting shot would be like vote red, vote for Patriots.do your duty, save your homeland.
02:05:36I know it's, you know, bleak sometimes, but do your part.X on Instagram at Realtae Brown.Follow me on Instagram.Check out my Reels.I'm going to try and do one a day now.I'm back in the Reels game.So come check me out, Carter.We're officially in D.C.
02:05:51Rolo, thanks for coming out.You can't see me because I'm behind the speaker.But yeah, you can follow me at Carter Banks, everywhere at Carter Banks,official and on Instagram and check out the label at Trash House Records on YouTube.Tim.We'll see you all over at rumble.com.Timcast, IRL.In about 10 seconds, don't miss it.
02:06:07We'll see you there.
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