White House Press Sec FIRED After 5 Days w/ Patrick Byrne
00:00With only five days on the job, Katie Zachariah is out as press secretary.And this story is just the whole political world's blown up because it's been bad for.This poor young woman, I mean, she kind of did it to herself.She had a terrible day one, claimed she was a lawyer when she wasn't.Even Hannity came after her.And then Donald Trump himself comes out and says, maybe this is not for her.I guess she refused to resign because now we're hearing that she's been fired, which ismassive. So we'll talk about that, of course. We also have flying cars. Elon Musk has just announced
00:36the roadster with an amazing display last night. I'm sure most of you have seen it by now. It generated4,700 kilograms of downforce, suction itself upside down before ejecting and flipping over.Not to mention, it launched from the ground and did a kickflip like 20 feet in the air. This is a cardoing it. Mind you, it's not really a flying car. It's got thrusters, but it can't really fly for allthat long. Estimates put it at maybe two to three seconds or less of flight time. Still a very, very, verycool vehicle, and it's basically the biggest story. So we'll talk about that. And of course,my friends, we have new data coming out from the midterm elections. North Carolina,North Carolina's early voting data has come in and it is an apocalypse for the Republicans. All
01:25voter turnout is up except the Republican Party, which is down. Democrats have nearly 50% of thevote already. That includes Republicans and independence. Republican, I think Republicans have like 20%or less. So everybody's saying we thought it was going to be bad, but this is very, very bad.So my friends, welcome to the brand new Timcast, IRL studio. Can we get a wide shot real quick?Do we have the watch out? Look at that. We are not yet done with set.everything up. We still got a bunch of cool things to add, but of course, I got the guitars hangingout. We got art and design and llamas and swords and all that cool stuff, and we'll beadding more to it as we go. We're still working on. This is actually just one studio in a bigger
02:09office. We're based in D.C. now, which means we're going to get all the very special members ofCongress with the midterm coming up. It's going to be a lot of fun. But let's talk about the newstoday. We have, well, we got an interesting guy joining us today. The story you were telling me beforewe even went live was crazy.Which one was that? Self-sacrifice?Losing, I shouldn't say losing, but putting all of your money into this.Introduce yourself, sir.My name is Patrick Byrne.
02:35I'm an entrepreneur.I'm a bunch of different things.But one of the things was that I became in the bottom years domestic extremist threat numberone for the DHS.I'm quite proud of that.Bravo.And that was because I sort of started this whole movement that I came out a few daysafter the Trump election of 2020, and I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm a Ron Paul guy,
02:59but I came out and said, it was the first to say the election was rigged, these machinescan't be trusted, and for that, I got that movement going, and eventually I had to flee the countryfor two years.I figured it would have been you went to church too many times.But I don't know how much of this is public, but I was talking to you before, and I waslike, well, you're a billionaire, aren't you?I was worth about half a billion.And the reason why I brought that up is because it's crazy that they'd come after a man of such stature as yourself.
03:29I mean, this is a, we've described this as a battle of the elites at the highest level for a man of your position to invest all of your resources into this fight for them to try and come after you over it.What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that a lot of people don't believe that the ultra wealthy and the political class are separated from each other.They assume that if you're ultra wealthy, you're in the club and you're going to stay in the club.Well, I could have been in the club.I was in the club, but I didn't want to be.I'm not much of a joiner.I'm not much of a joiner.I also have an advantage.
03:59I have no wife, no children.And I've had 119 surgeries as of this summer.And I've had cancer now four times.So I'm kind of a heart got to scare or, and as Mike Flynn said to me once, what are you saving it for?So I basically plowed it all into what I did in the last four or five years.With what we're seeing with the midterms,it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on all this stuff.So I appreciate you joining us,
04:23staying out.It's going to be a lot of fun.It's my honor, especially in your new,I've been an admirer of yours since your New Jersey days.I remember when you moved to West Virginia.Yeah, I appreciate it, man.Welcome, welcome.You get to be here for day one of the new studio.
04:34It's amazing.My favorite thing about it, the security.Yeah.Yeah.That you can't get in the building.That's been an issue for you, right?I mean, so when we moved,so we were in our Western Maryland
04:48studio, we didn't have a gate. And so we had people actually just walk into the building,like burglary. Like literally, it's, it's like misdemeanor to felony territory,pulling up walking in during these shows, and it's resulted in chaos. And so we set upphysical barriers for the legal requirement to be like, okay, and then hired security. We builtthe new studio with an actual gate. So we had one guy drive up to the gate and get outscreaming that he was sent by God to come and talk to me. And we're like, it's a good thing.Who's the guys to avoid? Yeah, but it worked out. I got ajob out of it. He was tenacious. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were like, well, we'll let this one guy.
05:23No, no, that guy did not get let in. In fact, we went and grabbed our guns. The new studio thatwe're in is part of a much larger media building and now you key card access, security guards,very, very, very secure and hard to find even if you make it into the building. So we're veryexcited for that. And very excited to have you for our first day here at the new studio, as we're stillactually, you know, working on it and getting it up. But the boys are hanging out, whichof the boys are going to talk first? Man, I'm glad you're.here, Pat, I mean, you were an early investor in mines, or I guess not an early investor,more of a mid, late, later investor, I don't know, 2017, something like that, 2016.
05:57Yeah, that sounds right.And your voter integrity thing is really important to me.And I think blockchain could be a really good use.Like if we had 19 different blockchains that the vote goes to so you could verify,neither the chains have been compromised and sort of.Good in theory, but we have to have an election system that does two things.One, it runs a fair election, and two, it's transparent.once you introduce technology and cryptography,
06:20a few people are going to understand it.I think we've got to get all the technology out of electionsand go back to...Very simple system.Oh, no, no, I don't even trust that.Everyone's got to go in a stadium and raise their hand.And then we're going to count.Gothen's.
06:32Yeah.Say yay or nay.Okay.Well, to be fair, you know, everyone gets in a stadiumand then you get a green or a red light and click a button.Green finger like they did in Iraq.You have to put your finger on the page.But anyway, Phil and Tater hanging out.
06:46Hello. Hello, Tate. How are you saying?Hello, Phil. How are you doing? I'm doing quite well. Happy to be here.I love the New Day.Nations Capitol. You can see the Capitol building right down the street.Oh, yeah. Very cool. We were credibly told senators and members of Congress will now gladly run over to do the show.And that was part of it. Part of it's like, it's always annoying interviewing politicians because they give you politician answers.I believe the congressmen will be here. Congressmen and women will be here. Senators.No, no. We've had a few senators already reach out.
07:16They get their nose up in the air.It was crazy.You think highly of themselves.Don't bring them back.If they give you the politician answers, just don't bring them back.We're in for a treat.I mean, I was hanging out with my friend Jack.Shout out Jack before the show.
07:27And we just went to get lunch, like literally down the street from here.And exceptionally high profile individuals just sitting at the bar, having a drink.And I'm like...You can't say who it is?No, no, I can.Because I want to blow up a spot.You can, but you won't.Describe the context of this person's importance.
07:43Like a politician?He is the editor of...arguably the largest. A big media guy.Big media guy. Big media guy. And I wanted to go tap him on the shoulder and say,we have a spare chair, but I knew we were going to have a full house tonight.It's ordinarily, I could be like, oh, someone we know?No, but someone that would be like, oh, I might pop by.Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold. Sounds like Tucker.
08:01You got to go up to these guys and be like, nice to meet you. I'm Tate. I'm with Timcast.I don't know if you're familiar with this.Well, we didn't have an open chair today. I don't want to let him down.I'm not saying to invite him now. Just be like, you should come on at some point.I will.He tastes like, I was underdressed.I never tied.I know.
08:14I just,I was off,I was off my game.I'm glad we're here because it's like,we're an inflection point in human history with AI,like that we're here in the capital of the largest,most powerful country in the world.Stones throw away from Congress running the world's government is like.
08:28Ian's turning into a cowboy.Just,I just,heha,heha,baby.Go to beard now.I'm going to get spurs next time.
08:34I'm looking at you on the monitor and I'm like,every day,Ian is more cowboy than it was the day before.Hi,it did get in and I whipped myself in the,face training with it.Oh, man.It's a weapon. It's not a toy.
08:44It is not a toy.Yeah, it's literally a weapon.Definitely not a toy.You can whip things and pull them towards you and all that.Okay, how about we talk about news?Oh, yeah.We've got this from the New York Times.Katie Zachariah's ousted after five days as White House press secretary.
08:57The ouster came as Ms. Zechariah was shadowed by questions about how she had presentedher legal career and handled her first press briefing.All right.I'll give you the quick gist of it and then we'll get into it.She comes on for her first day.It's not very good.She was stuttering, miss speaking.She got roasted for it.
09:15That in and of itself, not that big a deal.I mean, first day jitters, I can understand that.But then everyone's like, you said you're a lawyer, where did you pass the bar?And she didn't.And there's this weird moment where she's with Trump and someone asks, and then she leans in and says when I was in China.Now, the obvious thing there is.She said, I went to China.Like, I went to China instead of passing the bar.
09:36Or she was just answering a different question.Well, she's, just because someone yelled at Trump and then you heard her.her say something after Trump spoke?Doesn't mean she was answered. There's a bunch of reportersall yelling things. Well, she clarified. She thought thatthe question that was asked was, where did you goafter you took the bar? Which is like a completelydifferent wording. She didn't take the bar. It would
09:53be hard to misunderstand. She took the bar. She just didn't pass.Oh, really? You know, only 30%pass on the first try. Only 30.So it's not that big a disgrace. 70%.But she didn't try again.And when they asked her, she said, Iwent to China. I heard it as like,well, I didn't stay and do the bar exam again.
10:09Instead, I went to China.Is this a story where someone lied on their resume to get a job and then, oopsie?It's another one of those stories.Yeah.Well, because Sean Hannity was roasting her on his show, he interviewed her.And wow, I mean, when you're the Republican administration's press secretary and Sean Hannity has come for an interview and you get ambushed, it's like.I had to look away.Do we have a clip of that?
10:35But the ambush was very non-aggressive.It was just very straightforward.It's calculated by very simple, straightforward.It shows that Hannity, he can be an attack dog whenever he wants.I think there's two, I'd be curious what you guys think.I think there's potentially two motivations for Hannity why he would do such a thing.The first, I think, as likely is that potentially President Trump gave him a call and said,hey, it'd be convenient if you could maybe, you know,
10:59rough her up a little bit.So that way we have.Ruff her up.Yeah, so that way we've been an excuse to take her out.Or the other explanation, which is also equally intriguing.And I want to get, you know, again, this is just what people are saying.this is not my opinion, that because she gave Jack Posobic her first big interview,you know, everyone wants the first interview with the new press secretary instead of Hannity.
11:18Hannity might have had a bone to pick saying, hey, I should have gotten the first.I'm Trump's, you know, attack dog.I should have gotten the first interview.So some people are speculating maybe it was a personal thing as well.I don't know.I'd be curious what you guys think on that.I'd put my chips on number one.Yeah, me too, actually.
11:33Me too.That does seem like something that Donald Trump would do.I don't know much about Hannity's, you know, personal vendettas against the current administration.So I don't know that I have.I got the suite right here.This guy haven't said.I have a feeling Donald Trump called Sean Hedity and told him to assassinator and he did.This is the entire interview.
11:55We'll just play some of it, but let's take a listen.Straight ahead.All right.Katie, I know this is a widely view to interview for you.And you had your first moment.press secretary it's been widely panned I'm sure you're aware it only lasted 14minutes you only took three questions questions about your legal background callingyourself a lawyer you you went to Pepperdine Law School but you did not pass the
12:22bar exam correct correct okay what happened how did you feel it went personallywell Sean I want to give some background and it's nice to be on here with you andsuch a privilege to serve as President Trump's new press secretaryI was given the offer last Wednesday, or I got a phone call last Wednesday.I flew out to D.C. on Thursday.I had a meeting on Friday, was offered the job, flew home to California on Saturday,flew back to Washington on Sunday, was asked to start on Monday, Sean, which is Columbus Day,and so it's a federal holiday, and have a press briefing at 9.30 in the morning on Tuesday.
13:02So what I feel is I really stepped up.to the plate to do the press conference, Sean, with very little prep time. I receivedbriefing materials in the morning of Tuesday, and I went to deliver all of the great resultsthat President Trump is delivering for the American people that are not often spread in thenational media, so I took it as an opportunity so people would know what he's doing for Americansand how hard he's working. And then I delivered some breaking news. I think I'm one of the firstpress secretaries to deliver staff changes for the administration. And I was honored that PresidentTrump trusted me delivering that information. And then I took several questions. And I think
13:48it's been mixed, Sean, because they've said I only took questions from conservative outlets.However, the Daily Mail is not known to be a conservative outlet or friendly to conservative.So I do challenge that narrative. And then as I should have, I ended the conference.I left as as I believe given the fact that I'd been on the job less than maybe eight hours andhad a briefing book in the morning. I feel like I did my very best Sean to deliver for the Americanpeople that day. We'll give Sean one response. Am I hearing that you think the staff should haveprepped you better? Well, I believe that in that time I could have just given a brief intro.Okay, we get it. We get it. We get it. Already the chat is blowing up and they're like, sorry,
14:34she's her voiceeven her reply to Sean Hannitywas not conciseit was trying to pass the buckthey're there she's notshe's not the material to be thethe press secretarythe appropriate response should have been that
14:51she went on Handy and saidit was my first day I didn't doas well as I should havebut rest assured I will dosubstantially better next timeand the president will be proudlook she was following likehe'd be like oh I love it
15:03caroline Leavitt was very goodand Kaylee McAnney was incredibly knowledgeable about whatever topic, you know, the press threw it.She had that binder where she basically had the ammunition to answer almost anything the press was going to throw at her.So she had a, she, they're a tough act to follow, but that doesn't mean that she, she did the job.I got to say, I am over this.Donald Trump basically being like, I want a white blonde woman to be the secretary.press secretary, and not even looking at the qualifications.We were talking about this before the show.
15:40I'm not going to name the person, the individual person, but everyone's heard the story.Because I think Trump told it personally that he's in a meeting with a bunch of guys and hislawyer, a young woman, comes in with paperwork.And the guys, when she walks out, they're like, wow, she seems young.Is she a good lawyer?And Trump goes, she's good to look at.And I'm just like, at a certain point, Trump, stop just.Like, it's like Berlusconi.
16:02He's like, I'm going to surround myself with young women.instead of people who can do the job.I'm not trying to be a dick to Katie.I do think the media attacked her unfairly.She barely had a chance.She's thrust in his position.I get the lawyer thing.People are like, you're out on your resume.
16:17I think that really did it.She needed an opportunity,but at the same time,Donald Trump should maybe consider hiring,I don't know, qualified people instead of young blonde women againor women with lip fillers.Yeah, qualified young blonde women.I said, Katie, Kaylee McInney and Carolyn Levet, both blonde young.
16:34And they were good.You were extremely good at their job.That's why I'm like, it's, I'm not here to be like, no blonde women allowed, you know what I mean?I'm just saying at a certain point, Trump, Lord have mercy.Look, with all due respect, Fox News is roasted for this all the time.It's like, welcome to the white blonde woman show.Yeah, I mean, it's a form of DEI, you know, it's like people complain about it.But if he wants the hot blonde show, reverse DEI.
16:56It's not that it's DEI.It's like most people like looking at attractive blonde women.I get it.But Trump, come on.Like, like Christy Nome, you know, like Pam Bondi.Everyone's going like, why is Trump just keep putting these women that it's, it's, we get it.It's, you know, I want to surround myself with women.It's funny.
17:16You think about who's been like.He thinks he's Gaddafi.Yeah, you think about who's been like the surprises or who's been like the successes,the strong, you know, the strong cabinet officials, you know, you start thinking, oh, Stephen Miller's been, you know, he's been pretty good.Rubio's been a bit of a surprise.You get on the list that, you know, Best Sense has been interesting.It's all men.And then you're like, oh, who's been the flops so far in the county?
17:36It's all women.It's like there's something there.You were going to say something, Patrick.Sorry, I can you.Well, no.Well, A, I agree that the classy was answered that she should have given is first day jitters.I'll do better.I'll make you proud.
17:50I would have let a lot slide.He does have this habit.And I'll tell you a personal story.Do you remember this, I think, moderately famous story on December 18, 2020,myself and General Flynn and Sidney Pals snuck into the White House and had this meeting.That was me, that we snuck into the White House and met with Trump and tried to talk him to doing the right thing.One of the things that made that happen was until then we had had a reasonably good way of communicating.It was through Rudy, what we were learning.
18:22We had all these computer scientists working for us.We were digging up stuff.It was tough feeding it to Rudy, who was 85 and wasn't going to understand cybersecurity, but it was at least Rudy.Somewhere in there, two journalists, I won't mention their names, attractive young women, went over, this is November, late November 2020, went over to the White House one day.I saw them go over, dressed up in sort of flouncy dresses and high leather boots.To go in and to the White House, they came back three hours later and said to me and Mike Flynn, okay, okay.We've actually, we're now advising Trump.When you have stuff, you give it to us and we'll brief Rudy.
19:01So we had like all kinds of cybersecurity guys doing amazing workand we had to feed it through a couple bimbos.And he has no idea.There's actually another woman.I won't mention who it is because I think it's actually one of the better women on the staffthat allegedly I'm told he she had hired,she was in a one piece bathing suit and high heelswalking around his country club one day.
19:23And he was having lunch, called her over, got to,and the next day he hired her as a lawyer.Now she has turned out to be, I think, pretty solid.But yeah, he's got this old man's penchant for just wanting to surround himself with Hotties.Lute and Lusivius, perhaps.Well, I mean, he can't be that.Luzzi was wearing a one piece, right?Right.
19:40That's a joke.Unforced errors.And we don't mean, of course, like a Unitarred.We mean just one.Yeah, just one piece.I'm kidding, I'm kidding.So you can have a whole category of unforced errors by Donald Trump.I can sit here and say all kinds of things I agreed and admire about what he's done.
19:58But he has a long list of unforested.errors. Oh, I agree. And like, the annoying thing to me is the people who live in Trump can never doanything wrong world. And I'm just like, listen, it is reasonable to say that Donald Trump is betterthan Kamala Harris would have been and he's better than Joe Biden was. But look, just becausethe Democrats are wackaloons doesn't mean you got to just lick Trump's ass. You know what I mean?Like, this is stupid. Why? You know, I'll cut him some slack.I will because he tried bringing in the swamp guys, the DC guys in his first term, and thatbackfired. So then he tries bringing in loyalists, but he brings in a bunch of these women.
20:38And it's like, okay, I'm just, I'm just tired, to be completely honest. I'm not going topretend that Kamala Harris would be doing better. I think it'd be substantially worse, to be honest.I don't think it would have a country anymore.We just need a lot of Stephen Miller's. We need a lot of Stephen Miller's.Yeah, seriously, Trump should have just said, Stephen Miller, you're in charge, do whatever you want.He's not particularly easy on the eyes, especially when compared to the people that Trump has had aspress secretary, but Stephen Miller's definitely the guy that's that seems to have Trump's earin and has smart.
21:08Stephen Miller, he's very smart guy.Stephen Miller should hit the gym right now and do that Chris Hemsworth, Hollywood Thor routine.It just gets mad jacked.And then he should show up doing that thing where it's like you have the collar with the tiebut no shirt on, just like massively jacked and be like, oh, my secretary now and chief of staff.Chippendales out.I want Stephen Miller to be chief of staff.He needs to be, if the rumors are anything you go off of, I mean, that would be a serious, serious upgrade.
21:35I think there's probably Trump admin officials who saw the news last night. We're probably weeping tears of joy that Susie Wiles might be out, who's been causing tremendous problems.I mean, if you look at like a lot of these handicaps, you look at these corruption, these credible corruption accusations about the Trump administration, a lot of it goes back to her. There's really no question about it.And that's ultimately what's really frustrating. This is how Orban and that people of that ilk law,lost the youth, you know, in hunger. You look at the young right wingers, you know, people that are tothe right of Genghis Khan were out on Orban. A lot of it was this corruption, this tit-tat,just kind of nonsense going on every day. And then a lot of it was this boomer garbage that we'reseeing where we're shoveling in all these Fox News hosts and getting nothing done. And all we'redoing is having these great sound bites. Meanwhile, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of
22:22economic in it. You're screaming for help, right? Like the year-over-year hourly wage is down.I mean, this is stuff that affects young people dramatically.So, you know, to get back to the, like, sort of what I was getting at is just, you know, this kind of stuff is just really offputting to young people.And you may be saying, well, you know, young people don't make up a large part of the voting base for primaries.And you're absolutely correct.You don't need young.If you're a Republican and you're trying to win your primary, you don't need young people.That's just the reality of the situation.
22:49But you're going to need them, A, in the future for voting and then B to staff your campaigns.Who do you think your activists are?Your activists are your young people.That is the engine room of any political movement.Did you guys run that video yesterday or the day before the Instagram video I posed?I shared where it's like Gen Z versus Boomers.Did you guys run that one?Oh, not yet.
23:08We're going to run that one because I was talking about that earlier today.And the idea that their boomer is saying, we're going to tax Gen Z to pay for our Social Security,you are asking for a revolution.You are asking for Maltaf cocktails through your window.You are never going like, I'm sorry.I was shocked at that poll.But let's do this.Excuse me, we'll get to that.
23:30Let's jump here to this story.We got this post from Data Republican.16 October, North Carolina early voting update, day one.And it is bad for Republicans.Ladies and gentlemen, the Republicans just got the first smack in the face.A 21.6 shift.21.6 point shift towards Democrats.Take this out.
23:52In early voting, it opened yesterday.Data Republican is saying the North Carolina map nowdefaults all early voting, yada, yada. At this point, 22, the early vote was D plus 13. It finishedD plus seven. And Republicans still won every statewide race. A Democratic lead in the early vote isnormal. Day one right now, we're looking at a 21.6 point shift, about a 21.5 point shifttowards Democrats, all early voting so far. Now, of course, people are going to say, but hold on,early voting tends to be Democrat. Anyway, yes, this is taking that into consideration.consideration. Republicans are minus 9.1. Democrats up 5.1. Independence up four. Raw Democrat Republican
24:36margin plus 14.2 shift towards Democrats, D plus 27.4 with independent split by each county'sR&D ratio. Turnout is up 25% overall and 47% in person. Republicans are the only group thatwent down. Republican in-person bouts fell 12%. Democrat rose 78%. Lord have mercy. Republicans are about toget kicked so hard in the balls. You're going to feel it at home. Now we got this from Kalshi,midterms balance of power, currently sitting at a staggering 62% chance of a Democrat suite.I also wanted to be shout at to kalshi.com for sponsoring the show. And we love their data.this is tracking where people are putting their money based on what they think is going to happen.Polls be damned.
25:33We've been talking about, yeah, well, you know, the polls could be biased, indeed.What we're looking at right now is where people are placing their money,and more importantly, what people have already done.So with that being said, boys, it's looking like the Republicans are going to get in the ass.You know, the worst part about it is it's not just that the Republicans are going to probably lose the Houseand if these numbers hold, probably will lose the Senate.but the American people are going to pay for it.There's not going to be any kind of movement on any policies that the Trump administration wants.
26:02He'll still have the ability to do things through executive action,but he's also going to have significantly more resistance from the House.And I think that it makes it more likely that the Democrat will win in 28 as president.And if that's the case, unless the Republicans take the House back.I don't, I don't completely agree.I think one of the issues right now is to why Democrats are doing wellis simply that Republicans control everything.And if they control everything
26:26to matter what happens,people will complain.And the people who complainwill vote against youbecause what are they reallyvoting on?I'm going to vote for the other guy.I think the people are voting.
26:33But my point is,come 2028,if Democrats take the legislative branchand things are bad,Republicans can use that to say,well, you voted the Democratsin the midterms and look what they brought.I think people are blaming Donald Trump
26:45right now.And I think that they'll continue to do thatafter if the Democratstake the House and Senate,you're going to see,like I said,you're not going to seeany kind of significant policies that help the American people because there's no incentive
26:57for the Democrats to pass legislation that helps the American people. So you're going to have two moreyears of negative results for the American people. And so they're still going to look at theRepublicans. They're going to say, you didn't do anything. Donald Trump's to blame. They're stillgoing to blame Donald Trump. And I think the Democrats are like the way. I'm not completelyconvinced because if Democrats take the legislative branch, Republicans, I think, are counting onculture war conflict in which, of course, Democrats are going to impeach Trump. Trump's going to say,we're trying to fix things and all you're doing is blah, blah, blah, blah.And then when it comes time to vote, you know, I'll say this.
27:30I think, and, you know, I'm going to say this because I think your opinion,Pedro will be very, very different.But without COVID, actually you may agree.Without COVID, Trump wins 2020.Regardless of what you think about voting machines or anything like that.No mail in voting and Trump wins.Like Biden, come on.But when you get mass ballot harvesting and you get a COVID lockdown,
27:52turning low propensity voters into active voters,then, yeah, Democrats are going to pull out all the stops,and they're going to have voter signature verificationat a very, very low rate.Make sure Biden gets those votes.So 2028, I'm not so sure.I think if Democrats do take Congress,they're going to do things,
28:12and Trump and the Republicans are going to campaignon what Democrats have done.Hey, they wasted our time.They caused fights, and we couldn't get bills passed, blah, blah.Let me give you a more draconian possibility.On day one, Hakeem, well, first of all, if they take the House,Democrats will have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.He will on day one get Trump impeached.
28:32The Senate, even if it's 51-52 Democrats, you'll have, at this point,16 to 20 Republicans will switch sides and vote to convict.The establishment, the food of...You think Republicans will vote to convict in...I think there's enough of them.I think there's 16 to 20 in there who have shown their true colorson some key votes and key, more like committee votes over the last couple years.They just, there's, the establishment Republicans want to be done with the Trump era.
29:01And they will vote to convict and you will have President Hakeem Jeffries and AOC or somebodyas his vice president.Well, they're not going to remove Vance.No, they will.The Democrats are so crazy at this point.They will impeach them both.They'll impeach them both.And you'll have Republicans will do that.
29:18I can certainly see a reality where they'd like to remove.advance, but they do not have the political capital for that.Removing Trump is a long shot already.Because while I agree with, there's probably a fair amount of Republican senators who are readyto jump ship.The issue is, will they survive politically back home in their states?I don't think so.I think Trump, his polls are bad, but he still controls so much of the Republican base,
29:42the MAGA Republican base, that you come out as a Republican senator and say Trump is bad,and you're voting to impeach him.You lose 20, 30 percent of that vote.you'll never get elected again.So I think Trump getting convicted is a long shot,but throwing Vance in there, I don't see that being a possibility.I mean, Vance was a senator,so I mean, he has a personal relationship with a lot of these Republican senators.
30:02So, yeah, I mean, to Tim's point, Trump's a long shot.But I think Vance is probably off the table just because a lot of these guys knew him personally.And, you know, a lot of this culture war stuff, a lot of these senators hate each other,as we all know is all kind of k-fay behind the scenes.They all get along.They're all chumming it up.I think Vance is in the Senate law.enough for especially the Republican senators will probably they won't risk that
30:25relationship getting thrown in the air. From your lips to God's ear. Yeah. Yeah, it's fair.Well, I mean, look, the if the Republicans don't, I mean, I see, I don't think that Iwould put anything past the Democrats. I'm not so sure that there are that many Republicans.There'd have to be 60 votes to get him out for him to be convicted, correct?67.67?If the Democrats had 52, 53,000.three seats, then they need 14, 15, 16 Republicans.
30:53Yeah, I mean, I think that there are Republicans that would vote to impeach.I just don't know if they're that many.Well, what I will say is this.If I don't think it's day one, if there is a scenario in which they do convict Trumpand get 15 Republicans to flip, you're going to need a political castes belly, as it were.So let's say day one, Hakeem Jeffrey says, we're going to be launching congressional investigationsagainst Republicans for impropriety, Donald Trump and his political lawfare.What they would have to do is, and I don't put it past him, is fabricate or let's just say
31:29drum up a story of such corruption that Republican senators say something like, I'm sorry,I don't want this to be the case, but I have no choice.Since we learned that Donald Trump kicked that puppy into a burning building and left it,I must vote to convict.So whatever the story is, they will first have to take six to 12 months building up this narrative and getting a story so that enough Americans are shocked and then they create the pathway by which Republicans could defect and say Trump's got to be removed.Good analysis. What I'm afraid is that Trump has given hostages to fortune, that he has, because of the corruption around him, he has allowed things to happen, particular with regards to Venezuela.that could provide the Democrats just that story.Russia.
32:21This, this, Trump cutting a deal with Russia on oil right now,particularly at a time when Russia was already sanctioned,showing the desperation due to the Iran war.I think what we'll likely see is you might get hearings on Trump's,the schoolgirls that were killed in Iran.Imagine Democrats come out and say,based on new evidence received,we're launching an inquiry into the, you know,
32:4550, 60 school girls that were killed by Trump.word strikes. They'll then get people to come and testify before Congress about the little girlsthat were murdered. And then you'll you'll get, you know, I don't know, insert Democrat going on TVand saying it shocks the conscience that Donald Trump murdered those little girls. And thenyou get Republicans saying like, while we understand that war is tragic, Donald Trump was callous,reckless, and murderous in the murder of these children. All they got to do is parade everysingle day and every single media outlet that Trump murdered little girls. And Republicans are going towhat happens is these Republicans probably still know they'll lose, but they'll be able to go to their
33:25rally and say, I have no choice Trump murdered those children. Right. That is one that is onecourse. I do think it has turned out that there was an IRGC facility next to that school. We hit.I didn't say it was true or false. We hit precision weapons. Our precision weapons are not always as precise asthey were supposed to be is what happened. There is no truth, only the argument. The Democrats needonly say, that's a lie to cover up for a man who murdered children. And this is what's going to happen.I mean, look what they said about you, right? They went after you like crazy and much worse.I got some of this heat when Merrick Garland came out in October and accused me of takingindirectly taking money from Russia. That's right. You were a Russian asset too? All fake.
34:08Completely. Here we are. Still doing the show. Still making money. Nothing's changed. And then a monthafter the election, it disappears.Yes, it may be true that it was collateral damage, it was accidental.They will just lie.They'll say, Trump, they'll say, we, you know, you'll get Adam Schiff going on TV holdingwith a middle folder saying, I can't show this because it's classified.But a source said, Trump said, kill those girls.And it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
34:32Why do you think that's a higher probability event than some of the people around himwho are involved in, you know, Jared and Whitcough,out there with out of one side of the mouth they're negotiating like their u.s government officialsout of the other side of the mouth they're like doing condo deals because a third grader can'tunderstand that so when you look at politics i think they say that the average grade vocabularyis third grade so if you go to third grader and say listen you didn't understand about jaredkushner and wickoff these guys are running backroom deals where they're negotiating with theSaudis and then going with it you have the ambassador to Greece and the and the third grader's going
35:11to be like, I want pizza. But if you go to the third grader and say Donald Trump hit your friend Sally,he'll go, why? Why would Trump do that? So you're going for the lowest common denominator.And I'm not trying to say the average American is stupid. I'm trying to say that an averageAmerican who doesn't pay attention to politics, here's Trump intentionally murdered children.And they're going to be like, look, I don't know what's going on, but I am not in favor of that.And if they can shift things against Trump, even 10 or so points, you can get those defectiveRepublican senators to say, I understand that you like Trump.I understand you don't like Democrats.
35:48But as a man or woman of principle, I am here to lead the American people and do its right.And the revelations that we've received about Donald Trump or that strike on the schoolintentionally are disqualifying for me.I'm voting to convict.Again, I'm not saying any of that's true.I'm saying it is the cleanest narrative for Democrats to approach because the story alreadyexists in the mind of people.Democrats have already campaigned on it.
36:08effectively, and once they're in Congress, they can find new evidence.To your point about getting J.D. Vance, I think that they won't go, they won't stop withJ.D. Vance. I mean, there was already Rokana's talking about impeaching the Secretary of War.So, Thomas Nassi started that. Yeah, I mean. And Ian, they'll come for him next.Did I? But if they get Trump, you know, if they get Trump in advance, number three in line isSpeaker Hakeem Jeffries. Indeed. And then you have a situation where you've gotgot a significant majority in the House and in Congress, in the Senate and a Democrat president,they'll be pushing through all sorts of policies intended to make sure that Republicans cannot
36:51win again.Well, we're communist China at that point.Yeah, agreed.And so I remember the first thing that Nancy Pelosi did when Biden got in, HR1 wasfederalized the elections and packed the Supreme Court.They want to federalize the elections,pack the Supreme Court.They'll also recognize 10 million, 20, 50 million
37:13illegal aliens, make them citizens.There's no way to get out.I understand that people are upset with Trump or angryat the Trump administration, however you want to phrase it,but the things that the Democrats want to do,I don't think the American voting public is cognizantof the actual things that they're looking to dobecause the Democrats will do to the federal government
37:35what they've done in California,essentially block out any kind of opposition party.You'll have, you know, you'll have the, the Republicans looked at as maybe a regional party,but the real actual contest is going to be who gets nominated by the Democrats and, you know,the primaries.The thing is, though, like, real quick, sorry.Don't forget what you're going to six.I want to address a comment.
37:56One of our, one of our, uh, Discord members, Gonefall says, but they are stupid, Tim.I want to, I want to clarify something for, for this audience and for our members.You're all smart.And I genuinely mean it.The average person isn't stupid, you're smarter than they are.And that's not an insult to the average person.Average is average.That's the normal degree of intelligence.
38:15And I also want to stress that there are people out there who are not stupid.They just don't have the time to focus on what we focus on.So there's a guy out there who's a tradesman and he works 40 hours and he comes home and he wants to hang out for a few hours with his kids, watch TV with his wife, have a nice meal and go to bed.He does not have time to be immersed in politics.That man is not stupid.There are stupid people.My point is this.I like, you know, I'll jokingly say like,
38:45ah, man, Americans, man, they can be so stupid, blah, blah, blah.You know, the reality is you guys are focused on these things.You're paying attention to the world because you are above averageto a small, from a small degree to a great degree.Just don't forget, just because you're smarter than average doesn't mean the average person is stupid.That's all I wanted to say.Yeah, and stupidity and ignorance are not the same thing,not knowing doesn't right that you are unable to learn it and sometimes
39:09uh very smart people are anyway what i was going to talk about was uh communist chinabecause you guys said your fear that if the democrats get in power we might be seeingbut like the trump administration i just put up the numbers has bought 36 companiesused government funds to buy percentages of government the chinese communist party is known forbuying companies it owns 51 percent of its corporations 36 companies in the last few yearsas of october 15th the trump administration has usedused U.S. tax dollars to buy and socialize, which is the, as we know, the first step towardscommunist.
39:43What's the difference at this point?I'm just...Ian, let me give you a hand.We're a mixed economy, meaning elements of these things do exist with the United States.We're not a free market.It's very rare for the government to invest in buy private companies like they have been.Oh, heavy metals companies, chips companies.It's not rare, though.
40:01We're a mixed economy means we're 50-50.That's what a mixed economy is.We have social programs, welfare, high taxes.but we are not a, so understand that when it comes to economics, communism, socialism,or I should say socialism economically to capitalism are gradients.You can be a capitalist country with some social programs and still be a capitalist country.You can be a socialist company with capitalist mechanisms, but the issue is the gradient.If overwhelmingly the government controls the stake in the means of production, we'd call you socialist.
40:31The United States is called a mixed economy because it's split somewhat 50-50.I pulled it up.Historically, it's very unusual for the U.S. government to buy ownership stakes and dozens of private companies during normal economic conditions.I will admit we're not in a normal economic time right now.The end is an eyebrow.Like during wartime, I mean, Pat, you ran over stock for a while?Would it have been out of the pale for the government to come in and buy 10% of your company?Would have been out of the pale to do that.
40:58However, there are national security reasons that they're stepping in and saying, gee, we,We have to revive our rare earths industry.We have to invest in companies to bring chip manufacturing into the U.S.We can't leave it in Taiwan.So for national security reasons, the government does have a history of stepping up likein World War II.It made some big investments in companies so they could accelerate and it was companies thatthey needed for national security reasons.
41:27So that's why Trump's doing that right now.I, yeah.It's worth noting that the Chinese Communist Party, the waythat they own part of companies isn't by buying a stock or percentage of stock.It's a different thing.The Chinese state directly owns a significant portion of China's corporate sector throughstate-owned enterprises, and they exert control over nominally private companies throughindirect mechanisms.
41:53So it's not the same thing as the U.S. buying stock of a company in order to prop the companyup.They don't sit on the board.The federal government in the U.S. doesn't sit on the board.they don't have the right to tell the CEO how they have to run the business or whatever.It's essentially the government would say that it's an investment in companies that are important to the United States.China actually directs the way that these companies work.Did you do a lot of business with China?
42:19Well, I've lived there in the early 80s.I speak pretty good Chinese and I'm quite familiar with the economy.Are you, do you see like a very, like what's your biggest difference?Where do you see these differences in there?But if you had something also, you're going to tap up.Well, I think you're going on the right path to talking about China.There's that this is what the context that we're operating in is World War III.There is a Chinese, there was a Chinese general named, you can look this up, the secret speech of Cher Houtien, that he resigned in 03.
42:50His retirement speech was leaked.And it lays out what their plan is.They've been on a hundred year plan to take us down.And he said in 03, we're going to hit them with America with a bioweapon.destabilize them. We're going to get the cartels to get millions of people into the country.There'll be a three-year civil war, great pillage, loot and burn. And when there's nothing leftbut a carcass, we infiltrate and take over and it becomes new China. That's been the, in 1993,the Chinese and the Russians made that as a deal. Russia gets Alaska and Western Canada,
43:23China gets the U.S. and Eastern Canada. It's all in their national security literature.What we are seeing is, I believe, a Chinese plan to destabilize and take us down and then occupy us.And as crazy that sounds, read books like unrestricted warfare by a couple Chinese generals or the 100-year marathon or the secret speech of Chera Tien that lay this plan out.So what we are living through is that Chinese is a communist subversion.And their plan is to exterminate everyone, by the way, other than 20 million whites, they keep alive slaves for five.years. That's in the Chinese national security literature. So I feel like we're all sort of rearrangingdeck chairs on the Titanic not to understand in that context. And in that context, although I'm atotal Milton Friedman guy. But when you're talking, Milton Friedman might not have understood national
44:12security exactly. And there are times where the Department of Defense or the intelligencecommunity needs to make investments to get companies stood up and producing something faster than themarket would do it on its own.Do you think that's a good idea to right now, what they're doing?I think it's a good idea to do right now.I don't think in general it should be in the business of picking winners and losers,but there are some key industries we needed to get onshore.One of them was chip manufacturing, rare earth.
44:39Same thing with AI.Producing pharmaceuticals.Like, we shouldn't have to look to China for basic things like antibiotics and that stuff.Anything that we need for national security should be we can have a market,but have at least the basics.Even 10 or 20 percent.percent of the manufacturing here and then that source of the rest.So you always have a surge capacity.
45:01You know, it's the one race or ethnic group you're allowed to rag on so I can just say,you know, maybe white people deserve it.And I'm, but I'm being shocking intentionally.What I mean is this is a country, the West, founded on people who, what, 20% died onthe boats coming to colonize, to conquer this country.These were people who colonized and conquered a landmass.a landmass to a great degree. And so we have a tradition of work hard, succeed, take what youmust, but be kind, et cetera, et cetera. Today, half of white people are outgroup preferred,
45:41meaning, you know, they hate white people, hate themselves. China doesn't have this.China, China is racially supremacist, ethically supremacist. So if it is white people being split inhalf, and I know what I'm going to hear. I'm going to hear people say, it's becausethere's manipulation because China's lying to people. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's all part of it too.If China was able to go to half of white people and be like, burn yourselves and destroy your countries,and they went, you got it, boss. Well, then that's reality is what's happening. So I'm not sayingit's a good thing. I'm not saying it should happen. I'm saying my worldview is that you takeresponsibility for everything that happens to you, even if you didn't do it. This is a lesson I learned
46:21from my dad where I was going to school one day when I was a kid. I was like 14.and there's a train.And so I sit down at the tracks.The train took 40 minutes.I get to school late.They give me a tardy, which is like you get a suspension.And so then I got to go to get it time on my dad.And I was like, this is not fair.
46:39There was a train.I was sitting there for 40 minutes.And my dad goes, do you know the train tracks there?I was like, yeah.And he goes, okay.So you should have planned ahead for the train tracks being there instead of blaming other people for you being late.And I think he was right.The point is, we know exactly what is and what has been.
46:55going on, and if our American people and Europe are so weak that they would let China do thisto them, well then, at a certain point, you need to accept responsibility for your own weakness.That being said, I say this with love. What I am saying is Americans, wake up, get strong,do the hard work, and stop letting China stomp all over you.Palmer Lucky has been prolific in this. He heads Anderil, which is a weapons, AI weapons manufacturingcompany. I think that's the right way to put it.But he's big on morale, boosting morale that we can defeat China in the long run that we will.Because he's like, yeah, yeah, they have an advantage right now.
47:30They have a technical advantage because of the way they've industrialized their populace and their setup.But we can still do it.And you need people to believe it.You need crazy people like me that believe we can, even if we can't.You still need to believe it.Otherwise, there's zero percent chance.Not only that.Real quick.
47:48I guess I sort of throw this in the mix as well.Why is it okay for you to go online and disparage white people as a racial and ethnic group, but literally nobody else?Why do Americans tolerate that this is the system, the culture that we live in?You are going to get stomped into the earth by literally every other country.If your country says you're not allowed to denigrate any racial group, anybody, especially Asians.They're in this as well.But white people are fair game.Okay, that results in one thing.
48:18culturally, white people are bad, everyone else is good.Well, it results in a lot of people saying, you know what, I'm not going to play by thosegames again or by those rules anymore.I mean, sooner or later, you might get right with Donald Trump pushing back on China.The question is, can Trump survive politically, I mean?I guess technically, literally, considering they tried to kill him several times.Well, it seems like the China Hawks are really asserting themselves in the GOP long term.I mean, I think this Iran conflict, the Middle Eastern, I think that's kind of the last
48:48bastion of the older generations in the GOP, the neocons who are Israel-centric, et cetera.It seems like this newer gen.I mean, you look at guys, and depending on, like, Elbridge Colby, I mean, these are,like, serious China Hawks.And I think as time goes on, in the GOP, the consensus will sort of calcify aroundan anti-China posture and probably leave Israel out of the equation.To be specific, too, when I brought up Palmer Lucky and what he was saying about China,beating China does not mean destroying China or invading them or militarily fighting them.
49:19It doesn't.It means being able to destroy them and choosing not to.That's where we're headed right now.That's what we need to do.One of the things that Palmer Lucky talks about a lot that I totally agree with them is during World War II, we converted a lot of our existing industry to making products for the war effort.And nowadays, all of our technology, which is all of our advantage over other countries,It's all very, very proprietary.You know, the parts can't be made everywhere.
49:49And he's one of the things that he talks about with Andrel is he wants to be able to build weapons that are functional and that work well, but that you can quickly mass produce.And he mentioned the store probably doesn't even exist anymore.He's like, but with parts that you could go down to Radio Shack and get.And so it's simple things that are in already being produced and use those kind of things in the weapons.that he's making.So that way you can ramp up production because off the shelf.Yeah, off the shelf.Because the current situation is we do have an advantage over China,
50:23but we run out of munitions.I think the forecast is like in eight days.And one of the things of Palmer, like you said,he's like, what about the 80th day?What about the 800th day?You want to be able to sustain a conflict.And even if the conflict never arises,your enemies knowing that you can do,
50:43that is a turn.So the other day,we got stink bugs out here inEl Marva and the DC area.You guys have seen the stink bugs everywhere.I had one of my windshield earlier today.You went up flying once I hit the freeway.They're funny.
50:57You know, I remember I was recording a year or so ago,a couple years ago I talked about it.And after I finished recording, I looked upand there was a stink bug and it was going like this.And I was like, hey, it's bad for me.Stink bugs are harmless,but they are a major annoyance.So my buddy other day,
51:12I had like a hundred stink bugs crawling all over the place just because they're relentless.And I'm vacuuming them up.And he was like, man, like, where do these things come from?You know, he doesn't know, he doesn't pay attention to politics.There's no idea what's going on the world.And I said, bro, they're from China.These are Chinese stink bugs, the brown marmarated stinkers.Yes.
51:29Excuse me, they came from China.And he was like, wow.So like, what?We just bought stuff from China.And I was like, no, I think China did it on purpose.Blah, I've been sick.Anyway, he's like, why would, he laughed.He's like, oh, okay, like they sent stink bugs on purpose.
51:44And I was like, yes, because it destroys our economy.And then he laughed and he was like, oh, right.And I was like, no, I mean this seriously.Let me explain.How much time did I just spend vacuuming up stink bugs that have been crawling through the windows?10 minutes?I do that, what, two or three times per day?30 minutes of productivity lost for a single individual because I'm getting up and going,
52:07I got to get rid of these stink bugs.Now, of course, to an individual, it's completely meaningless.But China's not looking at individuals.They're saying, how much economic damage can we cause?So I'll put it like this.Every day, a dude walks up and flicks your ear.It's annoying.But you tolerate it.
52:23Eventually, you're frustrated, you're angry.It's been happening all the time.You don't like it.It's cost time.You add a thousand, death by a thousand cuts.That's what I think.I think the lantern flies are destroying trees.we've got so many invasive species from China that are destroying plant life in the Appalachian area.
52:43The wine berries, they're delicious, but they're aggressive and they destroy other plants.So it's illegal to transport them.These stink bugs, they reproduce, they have no predators.And if it takes a single person five minutes per day to deal with, multiply that economic output drain.China has been thinking about all of these things, all of these things.So don't just look at the stink bugs.Look at all of the little things where we get jammed up, add them together and ask yourself what our economic output has been reduced by because of these actions.China's looking at it like a game of blackjack.
53:18The casino has a 0.5% edge.And you're probably thinking the average person goes, it's basically 50-50.What's 0.5%.And the casino goes, you're right.Every hand is 50-50 for the most part between you and me.but we're playing 50,000 hands per hour, and that 0.5% is keeping the lights on.That's what China is thinking.They're treating it like if we give ourselves a 0.1% edge and the U.S.
53:45tolerates the minus 1% disadvantage from something as dumb as think bugs.We win in 100.That also compounds.You get 0.1% and then, but then later you do 0.1% of the new number and then you do 0.1% of the new number so you get this escalating.And the point is the United States will not declare war against.China because stink bugs arrived on cargo ships.I'd like to pile on that point.30 years ago, two Chinese colonels wrote a book called Unrestricted Warfare,
54:13the thesis of which was Americans only understand warfare when it gets kinetic,when there's bullets flying and such.But actually there's all these levels to warfare that we Chinese understand,from diplomatic to economic and financial, civilizational, you know,through Hollywood and things like that.And we're going to, it's in our interest not to litigate kinetic with the United States,but to fight them on all these different levels, strip their, and what you're talking about,they do all kinds of research on introducing, yeah, they've, we, the government has caught
54:45Chinese people releasing pests, various kinds of pests in our Midwest.Do you remember when people were getting mailed bags of seeds from China?Yeah.It happened to us.A weird package from China.It's got seeds in it.And we're like, what is going on?And then everyone was posting online, what are these weird?
55:01seeds that I'm receiving.And one of the theories was they were not illegal, but they were aggressive species.And if you plant them, it'll start destroying the surrounding plant life, likely an actof war.The idea that someone got some strange pack.Oh, I think I'll plant these.Oh, I know.There's got to be.
55:19I mean, I can visualize that person right now.What if they're just flowers?So here's the thing about wine berries.They are everywhere out here and they're delicious.Wineberry season.You ever see a wineberry?They look just like raspberries, but they're a little.little bit more resilient. They look like a little tougher on the outside, but still
55:35squishy and delicious and sweet. They kill all the surrounding plants and suck up all the waterand destroy them. Most people go, oh, but they're so good. They're so delicious. It's illegalto transport wineberry seeds, wineberry plant, because they destroy everything around them.So think about it. You get mailed some seeds and it says wild Chinese raspberry and you're like,ooh, that sounds fun. You plant one plant. Ten years later, all the trees are dead, the naturalfruits dead.Ecosystem is completely disrupted.Local animals now no longer have access to certain kind of nuts or whatever they may have been
56:07eaten.There you go.They would have got me with that too.If I got it, I was like, ooh.Well, I mean, your average person is going to, if they get, you know, seeds, if they'reinterested in plants, they'll think, what harm can this do?I'll plant them and see, you know, what is it?What is this?
56:22I'm curious.And it seems iniquious enough, you know?The opium, this is an extension of the opium wars, basically, since the 1850s whenthe British went into China from the East and poisoned them with opium.And they did it multiple times, I think two opium wars of 10 years each.So the Chinese never forgot that.And now they're giving it back to the British Empire through the American bulk.That's the opiate border stuff too.
56:45So the question is exactly, the fentanyl coming through Mexico.So the question, though, is, like, I don't want a hot war in China.I don't really want to launch pests on them and destroy them with a chemical war either.I don't want to.If you guys are listening, I don't want to do that to you.So how do we win this war?without destroying them. Do we just have to be better? Is it just, you just have to be better.You have to be the best. Everyone else will follow.
57:07There's, I'm sorry, you go ahead. You're going to say, you're not.Some people just want to watch the world burn. This idea that the, the poor criminal onlycommitted the crime because he was hurting. No, China wants you dead. They want to destroy theUnited States. They want global hegemonic power. There's no negotiating with that.The good news is we've actually, the apogee of their power relative to us was actually 2020.And we knew that back since about 2005, that from a population and an economic point of view,the best time for them to strike was going to be 2020.And I think they did.
57:47I think the rigged election was Chinese hands were behind it.So their population is declining.They're in a real population upside down wedding cake kind of.problem and also their economy probably reached on a purchasing power parity reached 75% ofours and it tipped and now it's shrinking versus ours. So we actually have, all we have to do atthis point is I'd say kind of rope a dope or keep enough pressure on and not fall, time willtake care of them. Their economic problems are more severe than ours, their financial leverageis more severe than ours. We just have to not lose. And that means sticking to our principles and
58:26keeping ourselves together and we do not have to engage them in a hot war.Time will take care of them if we can just hold ourselves together.With our economy, do you see like an evolution of the economy away from money into power,data, electricity, ability to move a payload?That's how Elon Musk described it.Yeah, I've seen that.He says that.I think that the, it is funny.
58:52The thing that distinguishes so many jobs is intelligence.Intelligence is now, 200 years ago before we had chemical power, having a physically strongperson gave you and it made you a better blacksmith than the other guy.After we had chemical power, I harnessed that, industrial power, that stopped matteringso much.Intelligence is going to, personal intelligence is going to matter less and less because ofAI.I think that the, we need to not be subverted and not forget our principles.
59:25and time will take care of China if we just, but we don't want to get in a hot war,but doing things like taking in the chip manufacturing industry from Taiwan,which required government investment to do, things like that actually are part of that program.Regarding, like, staying true to our principles, I thought on the drive over here, like, is what's going to happen?Is AI going to learn, like, don't cast your pearls before swine, Christian, you know, like, don't give these idiot humans what they want if they're bad people,and it will select amongst us the Christians.And what I mean by that is the virtuous.Like, is it now the time to, like, extol virtue
01:00:00and just stick to the virtueso the AI can train off of it?I worry about that AI clearly has biases built in,woke biases built in.Have you seen these tests where they...With the political compass AI tests?Yes.They're all left libertarian.
01:00:15Yeah.And anti-Christian, anti-white.Except for Grock.Yeah, except for Grock.Grock is moderate, libertarian.libertarian center.Well, it's truth seeking.Yeah.
01:00:27The anthropic, that new terms of service where they're like, you can't be cruel to the AIbecause it's training is like they're forcing you to be kind, or at least to not be malicious.And the reason for that is people think it's like they're treating the AI like it's alive.No, they don't want the output to be, they don't want the output of the AI to be as mean as theinput.That's why they're saying stop being mean to it because it's training it to be mean to thecustomers. What I will say is last night, I was talking with my brother about how Pokemon is basicallycockfighting for kids. And I've loved Pokemon since I was a little kid. I remember when the show
01:01:05first came out, I bought it on Game Boy. And as I got older, I was kind of like, it's kind of weird thatthe story of Pokemon is a 10-year-old. He like turns 10 and they're like, well, son, you're 10 yearsold. Time to start cockfighting. That's, that's Pokemon. And then you're like, go off into theworld and travel around by yourself and fight animals.and so I told them to use AI to make a version of Pokemon that's just roosters and he did and it took I think like 10 minutes and he sent me the app and it's literally Pokemon red and blue but there's only roosters in the game and so I'm just walking around with a bunch of roosters and a kid comes up and he's like hey you've got roosters let's battle and then you're like you have a cockfight in the middle of the street and I'm like it's a joke about the point of Pokemon but as I'm sitting there and I'm doing all of this I uhloaded up Legend of Zelda, link to the past, told Claude, decompile the game and recompile it andgive link new abilities. And it was like, sure thing, brother. And I was like, you know, let's make a sequel.And it was like, yep, done. And it took like an hour to reconstruct the game. I'm just like,
01:02:08the people don't understand and I can't convey to them and they don't care. So we did it. I did anAI analysis of all of our shows. AI performs poorly. No one cares. And I'm sitting here being like,Adobe just got cloned.The entire Adobe suite is now for free.So there's art craft, there's film craft.Like, it's called, like, I forgot what the whole suite is called Evercraft or something.But I'm like, there's an open source clone of Adobe Premiere for free.The Adobe Corporation is going to evaporate overnight.
01:02:42They have absolutely no means of surviving right now,except for the fact that major corporations that are spending stupid amounts of money for their subscriptions,don't know it's free now.Now, don't get me wrong, Adobe is iterating and updating and improving, but it won't matter.If you can get a free version that's half as good, that speaks light years.What is happening over the past few months and what we're watching?We are at the, like, here's the curve of AI and we're here.And it's just going straight up.
01:03:11I don't know how we have an economy in six months because I'm going to give a shout to my friend,George Alexopoulos, and I say this with love, but dude is,going off about how AI is fake and it's worthless and it's bad.I'm going to say it like it is, George.I'm not saying this to be mean to you because you're a good dude and you make great art.You lose.Society has determined what you do is no longer valuable.As I don't know, George is one of the best meme comic book and just generally comic book artists.
01:03:42He makes incredible and hilarious art so much.We love it so much.We bought prints of it and we put it up on our studio and we still have them around.We've got to bring them here.I said in a post of the day, graphic design is over, video editing is over, the Adobe suite programming, it's all over.It's all going to be one program that is exponentially improving itself.I went into Claude.I filmed myself, raw, straight up to a camera with no graphics, dropped the file in and said, make a video.
01:04:11It added all the graphics, motion graphics, it transcribed it, just literally edited the whole thing, cut out dead air, cut out errors, added it.added images and referencesand it took, you know,I did a short in five minutes.I loaded videos, I'd make a one minute long video.Five minutes it was done.Here you go.And I'm like, why would I hire a video producer at this point?
01:04:32If Claude can just do it instantly, no questions asked.George is saying, he said, you know, wiping my ass is worth 50,000 times morethan any individual piece of AI slot a person can produce.It's just not reality.I agree.So what we're seeing right.now, this is in the data. Graphic design backfill ended. So this is graphic designersretiring or leaving the industry. Companies are not rehiring. Contracting in graphic design,
01:05:02particularly ended a long time ago. Somebody would say, I need a flyer for my business and theywould say, hey, we'll give you a hundred bucks to make a flyer for my company. Now, I got a $20chat GPT subscription. I just click go, it's good enough. It's not as good as good as a graphicdesigner would have done, but it's good enough and it costs me nothing.we are going to see in the next six month, I can't even begin to describe how insane it is fromrunning a business. Let me say it like this. Two years ago, we're going, we need to findvideo producers and editors. This is so hard. Today we're saying, why would we hire them?Claude does it like that faster, 24 hours, no days off. So now all of a sudden,
01:05:44we were trying to find people to fill roles. We just kind of forgot. We just kind offorgot we wanted to hire for this. Because now, if I want to make my short films, I go onSeed Dance and click a few buttons. In 20 minutes, I've got my two-minute long little mini-film.This is, I really believe we are in the apocalypse right now. In that revelation? Yeah, well,the Greek definition of Apocalypse is to remove Apocalyptus the veil. I mean, the codebeing revealed is the apocalypse. Adobe's first. Next will be Microsoft. Like, Microsoft, you know,executives come out saying, we've got to slow down AI because their code's about to get open source.Yep.
01:06:18Everybody's about to get open source.I mean, maybe literally everybody.So this is why I'm concerned about what the economy actually means.Economoya means like to take care of the home.So we don't need money to have an economy.And we just need data to be moved and information and matter to be moved to the right place at the right time.That's what Musk has been saying.Adobe is a $95 billion corporation that has no product.
01:06:45I would be...I'm going to say that one more time.Adobe is a $95 billion corporation with no product.The entire Adobe suite is free online right now.Decompiled by AI, clean room reconstruction.What will they do?They're going to have to go to the government and say,do you understand what's going to happen if we go tits up overnight?
01:07:06The U.S. economy losing this one corporation is a nuclear bomb going off.They're going to have to go to the government and say,you've got to ban this.You've got to stop people from using these free versions.But Ian, you made a great point.Why do all the big tech guys all of a sudden say,we've got to slow this down?Every single Microsoft program is about to be free online.
01:07:25Understand what it means for all of these ultra-wealth.Bill Gates, AI could kill a billion people.Yes, before it does that,people are going to load every single Microsoft program,decompilot, clean room reconstruction,and now every operating system.Every program is free.The problem with going to the government
01:07:44and asking them to slow down is,Yo, if the U.S. stops, the Chinese will do it anyway.The apocalypse is on us now.There's no changing it.It's being revealed in front of our faces.And we actually have a chance to fix it and to make it to guide it into the next phase of economy.You know, currency, the word means electricity.There's a currency running through an electrical wire.
01:08:06There's a currency when you hold a dollar in it.It's the same word.There's a reason for that.When you can just go to an AI agent and say, this is the result I want.Right. You don't even have, you don't have, you don't have to know how to code or know anything about any of the programs that we're even talking about. You're just going to say to the agent, I want to do this. When I go, you do this and do this and do that. And it just does it for you. I go to chat GPT. I got the high program right now. I'm paying 500 bucks a month. Use Astra Ultra. I go so hard. I design, design, design all day. I'll go through 80% of my weekly allowance in like 10 hours, 15 hours. They'll refill me to full because we are America, because we are America.we have the electrical input, the power to generate this mass output.We don't have enough.It's basically, it's basically Sam Aldman saying, you know what?
01:08:55We don't have enough electricity.I'm going to reward you because we're America and I can.We don't have enough electricity.We don't have enough electricity.What?We don't make enough electricity.We literally are doing it to power the data centers right now and we can make more.But it's, if we were to Ethiopia, we wouldn't have access to the Chacheebdi.
01:09:10They wouldn't be refilling my account.They're able to because the power.And I mean electrical power, literally.We're so far behind what we need to be for electrical production compared to China to satisfy the demands that.I mean, why do you think Musk is looking to put, you know, GPUs in space?Because he has unlimited access to so.Yeah, he has unlimited access.We do not produce nearly enough power.
01:09:35We need more power.Yeah, I agree with you.We will thrive with more power.But we are also probably the most powerful country on the planet.Well, you're not talking about electrical production because China has.actually produces more energy than we do now.Yeah, it's a big power as a general term because explosive force, you know, economic power.I want to just say something to you guys.
01:09:54Adobe generates roughly 96 to 97% of its revenue from subscriptions.In fiscal 2025, total revenue was $23.77 billion.Digital media, creative cloud products, just Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro,after effects, and related tools, plus document cloud, was the largest piece at $17.65 billion.right now every single piece of software in the adobe suite was cloned clean room rebuild with new codefree it's free every single corporation every single dollar into that 17 billion dollars could evaporateovernight this is what a new computer this is why i was saying i got a new computer for thisas we're we're going out's a new studio and told me to get this AI computer super high end and really really
01:10:39great. And I was like, I need to be able to edit videos. So I did a search. And I was like,the issue is I really hate logging into Adobe because it only lets you have, so I got a bunch ofcomputers for me. Like if I'm working in West Virginia or Maryland or whatever, I hate having to logout and log back in all the time. So we have our subscription for Adobe. And I was like, I just needlike a simple program right now for quick little edits. Like if I need to trim a second out of a video,I don't need to make a movie. I don't need to log in Adobe. Well, I found a program calledFilmcraft. And I took a look at it.And it said that it was a great video editor and I opened it up and I was like, this is identical to premiere.
01:11:16And I saw these videos online where people were explaining that somebody decompiled the entire Adobe suite and told AI to rebuild it from scratch with new code.And it did. And now a $17 billion revenue program suite is free.What will Adobe do? This is going to rapidly expand.like a virus.There's so many companies in the same situation.Yeah.Oh, yeah.Software as a service.
01:11:45It used to be if.Sales force is over.Oh, yeah.Sales force.It's insane.This is a quarter or more.How much, what percent of the economy is going to be all this software?Next year, all of these people will have no income.
01:12:01I, I, I, I'm, I want to stress this.To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.I've worked in media my whole life.editing skateboard videos with my friends as a kid,making websites, flash animation and video games,to then getting a job working in my 20swith various media outlets producing things.And I have seen software every step of the way,
01:12:22the importance of it.So when I wake up one day and I'm told,hey, you know every corporation has to paythis massive subscription fee for all these programs?That doesn't exist anymore.It's all free now.It was like literally watching a nuclear bomb detonateover a major city.
01:12:37I was like...That's why people are.make the argument that there's only going to be like one or two companies. Yep. Because you'll,you'll have, you know, it's going to be your, you know, you'll have your, your market for whichAI you want to use. But software as a service and just generally software is going to go away. That'sthe reason I was saying that like once you have an AI in your phone that's functional, apps aregoing to go away. Why are you going to do that? You're going to tell your AI, hey, I need to do this.And the AI will just contact whoever it is that you're, whatever service you're trying to buy.
01:13:06I need to get, you know, I need to buy tickets.They'll go directly to Delta.I need to plan a trip.It'll plan the whole trip.It'll get you the room that you need.It'll get you a car.All of this stuff will be done not through apps, but the AI itself will do all, make all the connection.Every company needs to do is build a CLI.
01:13:27It's a command line input.You need to make a CLA for your company so that Claude can download and install your CLAI.So like Delta, I should be able to download Delta.CLI so that Claude can talk to Delta in the background on the CLI, so I don't need to go to Delta'swebsite.And then all you, everybody with the CLI will have, that's their input for all the data.You're adding, you're adding, you're adding an extra step because Delta's already got a websiteand Claude can go to the website and yeah, but that requires desktop control and all these inputs.
01:13:53The CLI is the most basic easy way to connect the internet in the background.You want to know what I've heard from everybody is when I say things like, why would you,so it's called the ArtCraft Suite, where someone cloned in Adobe for free.And I've heard from other people, well, the issue is that we've got a lot of our project files are already in are in Adobe so we don't want to switch.And I'm like, if you're talking about spending, you know, what, 10 plus thousand a year or whatever you do on the suite, depending on the size of your firm, even more if it's bigger and you've got hundreds of employees, I'm telling you right now, sooner or later, some old person, some kind of guy's going to come in and they're going to be like, I don't care.if it's going to take you 48 hours of hard labor to convert and rebuild these files,you're doing it, because once we do, we drop that expense forever.But hold on, that's just Adobe.
01:14:44I work in media.I'm looking at Adobe.You mentioned Microsoft.How much longer until someone decompiles Windows and creates Windows free?I know they already did it.I don't know.Yep.Well, there's Linux, which is.
01:15:00But, you know, and it's funny because Apple,basically inverse took Unix and then slapped a brand on it and sold it for money.But Linux, I like Ubuntu, I like Linux and all that, but it is unique and it is harder to use.Someone's going to decompile and rebuild from scratch Windows and then make an operating system for free.It'll be able to run all the same programs.Also, I think you can't open like PSDs in the craft.You can open PSDs?If you want a fact, I've heard this.
01:15:28I looked at it but I said it will not open them.Oh, really?I've never tried.I watched a video.It said they could, but yeah, I don't know.You've got,mathematicians are crying because they're whole artistic,the hero age of mathematics where you had like a math that you could revere,
01:15:43that's gone, it's industrializing like chemistry now.So they're crying because.Moderna also is freaking out because all their patents are about to get lit up and opened.So I was talking to this physicist, this is a physicist like 20 years ago,and we were talking about why science is so hard to change, like Galileo, right?And he was like, here's the thing.They keep slapping new dimensions on their attempt to unified theory, string theory, M theory, because they can't explain some things.So imagine you've spent 30 years of your life working on a math problem only to find out it was wasted because the math problem was wrong.
01:16:18You are going to be particularly angry at anybody who dares tell you that 30 years of your life was wasted.Yeah, dude, I picked up the point is this.The toroid universe.The point, the point.Right, so I'll be finish the point.Like 10 minutes, you go first.The point that I was trying to make, we had an article where it said that mathattention started crying because there was, like, for example, a guy who's working on a math
01:16:39problem for five years, and then open a eye goes, oh, we solved that in a week.And then he's like, but everything, my entire life, everything I was doing, every day I wokeup, gone in an instant.I had a buddy.And maybe, let me ask you this question, Patrick.What age did you become, as you would describe wealthy?made I was about 30 when I made a million dollars million and a half dollars I had a buddy who said thathe became a millionaire at 16 in tech and he said that one thing that he experienced was a depression
01:17:12almost right away and that most of the people he knew who got wealthy really quicklyexperienced an existential crisis because they solved a problem and when the problem was solvedthey did not have a problem to solve anymore and they were sitting there and they were likeI don't care about the money.Like, every day I woke up and I was working on this thing, and then one day we solved it,and then I didn't know what to do with myself.Getting a PhD is like that.People think their life's going to be a lot better afterwards, and it feels exactly the same,
01:17:39and it's quite a crash.You reach that point.There's a musician.I had a friend of mine, and actually Phil might be able to speak to this, but I had a friend in Seattle,who was friends of the famous musician, and they said that after his record exploded and hebecame platinum and made a stupid amount of money, he got super depressed.And what happened was he was working really, really hard every day.He'd go to work, like recording and making music.
01:18:04Now he's got, you know, $30 million in the bank.They're kind of in a holding pattern on their next few albums.And so he's just, they were like, he calls me up and he's like, what are you doing?And I'm like, I'm at work.And he's like, you want to hang out?It's like, I can't.I'm at work.And they go, all right.
01:18:19So they end up sitting around all day, walking around having an existential crisis, not knowing what to do.Well, it's the adrenaline dump.I mean, boxers, this is, this is weird.well demonstrated in boxing is the first few days after a fight, like, you need to keep an eyeon the boxer because it's called the adrenaline dump. When you're building up to this event,you know, for months in many cases, event culminates adrenaline's in all-time highs. Your hormonesare completely out of whack after the fight. So they, like a lot of boxers, they have to haveguys on them at all times to make sure they don't do something crazy because they're going to be
01:18:48so depressed because of that, I've said it a feeling times adrenaline. Just like Lindsay Clancy waswith post-pileged oppression. I think we're like seeing the end of what I would, I guess,called the research industrial complex where people are getting paid to research stuff.Like, you don't need to figure out what you were looking to figure out and then starttrying to figure something else out.It's happening so fast now.It doesn't make sense to pay people to sit around and try and figure stuff out anymore.Ian?
01:19:11I'm paying chance to do it for me.Remember when I jokingly said a month after GTA 6 comes out, we'll have GTA 7?I was wrong.The day GTA 6 comes out, we will have GTA 7.It's already, so to be fair, decompiling a game of that size probably will take about 48 hoursof compute for an average person.Like a person who hashigh-end clawed and astronaut stuff
01:19:32loading it up and decompiling it,if they split the game into chunksand then have multiple agentsdecompile it, it can be done in a few hours, probably.The estimates I've seen, though, for a game like GTAs,are like, yeah, it's going to takemaybe 48 hours of total work time.Once it's decompiled, it can be immediately reconstructed.
01:19:52And so you can have GTA 7 reasonablywithin a week.But with like GTA and,other big games like 2K, Madden, et cetera.The big component of it's the multiplayer,so you'd need to rebuild the servers as well.Well, no, no, but I'm not talking abouthuman interaction.
01:20:06No, but I'm talking about... Put Rockstar out of business.You'd need to also recreate it.I'm not talking about putting them out of business.I'm saying it took them 15 years to make GTA 6.It'll take them a week to make GTA 7.So people...I...I'll put it like this.
01:20:23I go to somebody I know.outside of this room, obviously.People who are not in politics and I say,the economy is going to implode in six to ten months.And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.And I'm just sitting here being like,the stuff that we've started doing with AI as layman is having me panic.I had the AI, like I mentioned this earlier.
01:20:48I recorded myself talking for 12 minutes.I uploaded it to Claude and said,I got to leave, make a video for me.I need it for Saturday.When I came back, it finished all the visuals in the components.And I was like, that would have taken me two hours.So now I got a video going up on Saturday where it put all the visuals for a little mini doc I made.Because I'm going to, I was like, I want to put videos on the weekends, but I'm busy.
01:21:07I got family.Done.Don't need to hire anybody anymore.Soon you won't even need you.You'll just be able to tell it.This is what's pissing me off.It can't clone my voice.Yeah.
01:21:16I keep, I have been trying to clone my voice.Joe Rogan, no problem.Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, easy.You gotta train it.It can't do it.It takes like two hours.You gotta train it.You'll have to, what you do is you can stop, please.
01:21:29What?I'm doing it literally right now.I'm stopping you because I am offended by what you are saying.You can train it.To imply that I have not tried every possible thing to clone my voice.Yeah, but have you run like a training bot program on the guy in your computer and then sat there for 140 lines of you saying a word sentence after sentence after sentence.And then done it again and again because you need like five different training mechanisms.And it's using all your stuff videos.
01:21:51What do you put to work?I have.I have.I have.10 years of six hours a day of me talking.But that's what's messing it up.It's too much information.Ian, I'm just, I'm gonna, bro.
01:22:02So, okay, here's, here's, here's.What do you attribute this to, Tim?I believe you, what do you attribute it to that you can't,your clone?I have, I have, I have a few, uh, hypotheses.When I talk, I do things intentionally like I say,we have the boys here, I'll throw on a random accent.So to naturally grab how Tim Poole does a show requires a random Trump,
01:22:23sometimes things it cannot do.It can't just be me.But I do think,I honestly don't know why it cannot get my enunciation.It can sort of grab the pitch,but it makes this thing that talks like thisand it's very rigid.And Ian, what I need to say to you,
01:22:45I have done so many times every,I've tried 30 seconds, clean.The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog,unique New York. How now, Brown Cow, fail.I've loaded in a two hour of me just talking saying,today here's the news. I have intentionally searched for videos where I was talking lowbecause my throat was hurting, so I was doing the show just like this.And I talked this way every time, dozens of attempts, it fails every single time.
01:23:14Think about all the training Open AI has done on the internet, all the voices.Like we've done a drop of their ocean.I understand, Ian, my point is I can,take 30 seconds of Joe Rogan and it gets Joe Rogan. I can take 30 seconds of Jordan Petersonand it's Jordan Peterson. I can take 30 seconds of Trump and it's Trump. And every time I'veattempted to do me, it does not work. Are you working on a local model or are you working onlike 11 labs or something? 11 labs. I'm talking about local model training. If you own your ownmodel that's on your home computer and you're just training it in a vacuum, you can teach it specific
01:23:47things. We are not at the point where it can do the character replication of Tim Pool.Yet.Yeah, it takes a lot of training, I think.I don't know.I'm still training my mom.Imagine if it really could capture the essence of how I tell stories.And then here's another example, actually.So I went to a year ago tried having, I had 11 labs take a script for a ghost story.
01:24:16And then it cannot tell a ghost story.You cannot get VO to do ghost stories right now.because it can't voice act.It can do really dumb things like commercials.And it's got various types of cadences and, you know, things like that.So you can get, so what I said, I want an old man to tell the story about the haunted house.And it really just could not tell a story.So what I did was I recorded myself and then said, skin my voice with this old man.
01:24:45That worked because I voice acted it.So I went in Claude and I said, here's a script.written, no recordings, and I said, make it.It sucked.Miserably bad because it can't voice act.So if you want to do a commercial as Joe Rogan, something short, you can get it.If you want to get a two-hour Joe Rogan podcast, you're going to miss Joe Rogan's emotion.It can't get that right now.
01:25:10But it would be, and it's terrifying, when, and maybe in a few months, we get to the point where voice replication can grab emotion at the right points.Like, imagine if 11 Labs knew that when, when.And it was like, hey, in the style of Tim Poole.And it's me going, so Donald Trump came out today and he had a crazy thing to add on the latest story about Katie Zach.Saying, you can't come out of my girl.And like it knows just to start doing a Tim Poole Trump impersonation.When we get there, it's over because what's going to happen is not necessarily me.But let me tell you this.
01:25:43There's a high profile right leaning personality who told me two years ago.They had 3D scanned their body and done voice training to create a lot.an AI version of themselves.And I wouldn't be surprised if the videos they put out of them talking actually areat this point.Because they said that was their intention to do.I think that's actually a reasonable way to make money in the future in this economy.The shifting economy is sell your persona via AI to people that want to download it.
01:26:08No, you make a fake one.What do you mean?You can make a, so if you load up all of the various podcasters into the AI and say,why is this person watched the computer, that the AI is going to be like, oh, look at thesethings that he does.Okay.Combine them.give me a big-titted young woman.
01:26:23Done.Oh, you think you can.Joe Rogan's own.Augmet your own.Like, I mean, that might work for like the 500,000 people that have a Wikipedia page,but like the average person that doesn't have an online persona that doesn't have somethingthey're selling or a personality that they're selling, does them no good.So one of the theories that I've talked about people in media is that we're going to enter
01:26:45an age of no, there will be no more opportunity for a user.a random person to become famous.So the idea is back when the radio waves are getting utilized,everybody is just doing whatever they want.So that means if you got the means,you can set up a broadcast tower and tell all your friends,hey, I got a tower.If you get this radio, I can sell you one.
01:27:08You can hear me from across the way.So one by one, people start making radio stations.Eventually, the government intervenes and says,we got too much going on.You got to allocate the public airways by auction, by bid.that means now a regular person can't just do radio.It's a pirate.It's illegal.
01:27:26It's not so much going to be illegal, but what's going to happen is, you know, I've got a collective 13 or 14 million followers across all platforms,which means if I put out a video, I can make a brand new channel right now.Here's a good example.The Tim Poole show is 100,000 subs.However, we cross-post all the shows to 6.5 million subs.So I do a brand new podcast and we're hitting on ad.average 600,000 views per episode.Just because we're placed algorithmically, people know my name, much, much smaller than where, say, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Mar, or whoever, you know, Joe Rogan have been.
01:28:05But if every single person on the planet can produce the same content, what advantage does anyone have to get in and make a prominent show?They don't, because I can do the same as them.How will a regular person compete with Tim Poole having all these followers?So with our algorithmic access where it is, you're not going to be able to break in anymore.And one theory, hypothesis, is that the future is going to be the latter has been pulled up.Technology has granted you the ability to make a show, but it won't matter because nobody wants to watch a new face.Unless their genetics are superior, I have a feeling that the AI is going to start selecting algorithmically the people with the best genetics to promote.I don't know what that means.
01:28:50Like the new show will be the guy that's just like a genetic fucking stunner.So it's just pretty people.What?Just pretty people.But why would you-genetically talent, healthy, smart, advanced.Because you mimic each other, you know, so you want to watch what's better.The reason why I am arguing that's not the case is that if any person anywhere can produce 100 videos per day, so can I.
01:29:12And if I'm already placed in the algorithm, it doesn't matter who you are or what you do.You can't break.There's a million people producing a million videos.videos per day. I post a video, YouTube shares it with millions of people. You post a video,they share it with no one. And you're competing with a million other people. That's why thehypothesis, you will not be able to break through, even if you're an AI generated. Is that a badthing or a good thing? I don't know. Just a thing. Maybe humans go about returning to socialrelationships without trying to be famous, without trying to be news, or podcast streaming from a crosswalk
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01:31:26but we are actually looking for someone with four masters and ten years of experience.Maybe if you do a little dance for us, we cangive you a tryout.What?So what kind of work do you do?Oh, I do only fans.You're not one of those men who can't handle a female entrepreneur like that now, are you?Same with the men who care about body counts. Such losers.
01:32:02Sorry, we're kicking you out.But who will come in my place?Oh, some refugees.Good luck. Hey, get up, kid. You need to pay my social security.Yeah, I've never seen Morifference.effective anti-boomer propaganda than that last bit where they say get up and paymy social security because we saw the polling 85% of boomers think jensi should be taxed moreto pay their bills you know if i was a zoomer i would be i i'd probably be um let me say it like
01:32:49this i don't like communists i don't like socialists but you better damn well believe if i was like24 i would be the most famous communist in the country and i would have millions of followersand we would overthrow the political machine to enact communism only for the purpose of burning it all down because of that.Yeah, that's the majority of people that are communist.They have the ulterior motive of destroying the United States.They're revolutionary.They think the system that we live in is terrible and unfair and unjust.And, you know, to be honest, there are unfair things in our, you know, in the system that we live in.
01:33:24And so, you know, what impulse do they have to buy in?They don't own property.They don't have prospects for, you know, improving their life.And they've got a ton of propaganda telling them that things are not going to get betterand blaming it on both boomers and the rich.So they have no reason to think, oh, I can make this my life better.Like just the idea that boomers, whether they succeeded or not, had the opportunityand are now all saying,
01:33:56you should pay more in taxes for me.Bro.If I was a Zoomer, man, I'd be an Antifa.There's a common denominator to a lot of these problems like that,which is that I'm at the end of the,I'm on the cusp of Boomer and whatever came after Boomer.And that we basically lived above our means.And we, we, we, we, we, we,
01:34:23Initially, we were writing checks on each other's bank accounts.We found ways you could work from 1930s forward to organize political groups, pressure groups,and write checks on other people's bank accounts.About 1980, that had become impossible.Everyone had gotten organized up, old people, different kinds of people.We found a group that we could write checks on that bank account, and no one could organize to stop us.It was the group of future human beings.And one way or another, whether you're talking about the environment or Social Security or
01:34:53host of problems, we wrote checks on your bank accounts, and then you guys came along.Sorry about that, but it was my, I was one of the ones fighting it. The only people fightingit were the Milton Friedman guys, the libertarians saying, we should stop writing checkson the bank accounts in the future and keep government small. But the more government got inthat business, the common denominator of these problems is that the boomer generationwrote a bunch of checks on your bank accounts. By that, do you mean that they printed money?that or the social security system is itself like a life insurance company that's not being runor a pension company not being run on actual really sound principles.
01:35:31I would abolish it day one if I was emperor.There's ways through this and it does require you got to handle the transition so you don'tcause huge human suffering.Abolition.And the reason why is there, I've heard people say things like, well, what if we say boomersare the last generation to get it?I'm like, yeah, you're saying Gen Z has to pay more and then get nothing.We can't do that.
01:35:53And I'll be damned if I'm part of a society or a country that says we're going to sacrificethe young for the benefit of the old.So the problem is right now, millennials are buying their first homes at 40.Already a problem that our economy is to the benefit of the elderly.But part of that is, you know, there was a Federal Reserve, I think St. Louis,came out a few months ago with a study.The illegal immigrant population in America is adding 30% to the cost.of buying a home 20% to the cost of rent, or maybe have that backwards.
01:36:23So that's part of the problem.And the reason that, and Trump even said before he wanted to keep prices up because boomersare the strongest voting block and they own on average boomers, 70, I want to make sureI say it correctly, 75% of boomers own a home and many own multiple homes.So if you're a boomer and you own three houses, you don't want their value going down.So you're voting for keeping it propped up, which means mass migration to the detriment of Gen Z.Yeah, I think socialism is kind of inevitable in the West.I mean, you look in France right now with all these riots going on.
01:36:57You're getting a glimpse of what this is going to look like, right?So you have, let's just say, I'll speak about American demographics.It's probably pretty similar to France at this point.You know, half of Zoomers are non-white.So you can already take the majority of those peopleare going to have some sort of grievance or grudge against white, older white people.That's just obvious.It's baked in.
01:37:13There's no sense denying that.Then with the half of Zoomers that are white, half of them are full-blown socialist.at least, at least half of them are full-blown socialists,and we're seeing the same thing in France right now,where at least half of these white zoomersare also socialists, they're also out there marching.You look at the math, that means 75% of zoomers.First of all, I don't see their politics changing
01:37:33unless the environment around them changes.It's inevitable.At a certain point, probably in the 2030s or 2040s,when boomers start dying off and losing their voting power,you're probably going to see really,if the left doesn't get into power before,that you're going to see some heavy redistribution as policies.And at Tim's point, I mean, if the right's not taking it seriously, it is what it is.
01:37:54It's going to happen.I don't think they're taking it seriously at all.That last bit where the boomers walk up and laugh and say, get up, you've got to pay my Social Security.Republicans have no answer because even Trump is like, no, we're not going to touch Social Security.We're going to protect it.The funny thing is every Democrat coming out and being like, it's a good thing.It's a good thing.Yeah, it's a good thing that it's going to be at 7.8%.
01:38:16by 2032 and insolvent by 2038.Zoomers and millennials aren't going to get it,and boomers are saying tax the youth more,so we get free stuff.And they're already the wealthiest group.They are, average net worth of $1.6 million.Democrats are saying they want to expand it to other age groups.They talk about universal income,
01:38:35or they want to talk about Medicare for all,or single-payer health care.That is going to only exacerbate the clear and present danger of the socialists.And AOC came out and complained about,college loans as indentured servitude? What is Social Security? It's just crazy. And it's like,it's a completely indefensible system, just the system by and large, not just social security,but pretty much in every aspect of Western life, a life in the West. I'm speaking Europe and theUnited States and Australia, for that matter. It's wealth transfers from the young to the old.
01:39:07And it's like if you were to structure a system that makes sense, you know, what's the mostimportant time of someone's life? Well, like zero to four. So, you know, if you were, let's justsay, well, let's all put on our, you know, hats of social programs here, let's say we're incharge of, okay, you have to build it. I know you're a libertarian. You have to build a socialprogram. You'd probably be like, well, let's say zero to four would probably be the mostessential time to provide some sort of income from the state. I don't think the end of your lifeis really that important. Yeah, I'm not that kind of libertarian. In fact, Milton Friedman hadan answer to all of this. Milton Friedman's answer was a, it's two things. You have to do
01:39:42both of them. A flat tax coupled to UBI.And we're going to have, our social programs are going to bankrupt the U.S.At some point, there's a financial catastrophe.What we need to do, I believe, or the Austrian perspective, is you introduce a new currency,probably this one you make sound, like tied to gold or basket of assets.You run like France did for a couple years in the early 90s, where you've got the French franc and you've got the euro.And you introduce the other currency.All these social programs are going to turn noble in the U.S. dollar.
01:40:16at Chernobyl, but in the new currency introduced with a flat tax and a UBI.And that's how as AI and robotics sucks up all the jobs, there's got to be some mechanismto share that largesse with society.Otherwise, there's two ways we can go about it.And one is the way that I think the left wants to do, what Biden and Obama wanted todo, was now there's a business model that basically 5% of humanity can escape with all thebenefits and learnings and technology of 3,000 years.and what they need to do is set up in a third hearing structure
01:40:49so you can starve off the other 95%.And you create a Hunger Games world for five to 10, 15 years,and that was to me the great reset.That was Klaus Schwab and the WF plan.The other way to do it is to find some way to share all the benefitof this AI robotics, and that's UBI and Flat Tax.UBI.UBI makes no sense.
01:41:11How do you generate more output than input?Well, on UBI, what do you mean?How do you, how do you, just, what are people going to buy with the money they receive?Let's, let's try like a local restaurant.So the first problems of, let's start with non-AI, UBI.I'll ask you this question.How many people do you know play guitar?Few.
01:41:38Quite a bit.Most people do, right?I'm saying most people know someone who plays.Right.Of the people that you know who play guitar,how many of them do you think are good enoughto professionally?One.
01:41:53One.To the other ones who play guitar,if they were offered to play professionally,do you think they would take that job?Yes.So it's a general question culturally,but it tends to be true.Everybody's got some kind of hobby
01:42:09or something they would like to do,but they're not particularly good at.Most people play music,went to him and said, would you like to make a living playing music versus working at the post office?They would say, done.So what happens when you go to the person and say, we're going to give you a basic level of income that sustains you?What do you want to do with your time?I'm going to play guitar.
01:42:28We don't need a guitar player.We need some jobs to be filled.The issue is this.A society cannot function when you have a percentage of people giving free access to economic output from people required to produce.That's just it.But if you, UBI has to be universal, everybody gets the same UBI.So that doesn't change the fact that there's going to be, so.Some are going to work on and have higher income and they'll be able to command more.
01:42:54Have you heard the old urban legend about the high school teacher and the socialist grading system?Let me tell you the story.I don't know if it's sure or not, but the story goes that a high school teacher was explaining capitalism and socialism to their students,to his or her students, and said what we're going to do is to explain.output in socialist systems, we're going to average all test scores and give everyone the same grade.So test comes this week.Everybody takes the test.The kids who worked really hard and were smart should have gotten A pluses.
01:43:30They got Bs because their average was brought down.The kids who got Bs didn't care.I got a B, whatever, anything changed.And the kids who were failing were laughing because they got Bs and they normally got C's and Ds.Well, the kids who got A's got pissed and said, well, what's the point of fighting for an A if a B is all I'm going to get anyway?So the next week, the average score was a D because the A students stopped working because they were like, I can't be the best.I can't get an A.The B students didn't care and they got B's, but the failing students were like, I don't got to do anything.
01:43:59I'm going to get a B anyway.The next week, everyone failed because you were demanding of someone more output than they could put in.So the people who were putting in the extra said, I don't get anything back from this and the people who don't do anything get more output.It doesn't make sense to create a system. It doesn't mathematically align that you can go to a guy and say,we absolutely must have a farmer. We've automated most jobs, but not farming. Or how about this? We've not automated plumbing.We need plumbers. So everyone's going to get, let's say, $5,000 a month, UBI, but you can make extra money if you be a plumber.Most people, when asked and present with this problem, say the same thing.My time is worth more than being a plumber.
01:44:44If I can make enough money to get by, I'm satisfied.I won't take the job.In which case, the cost of being a plumber starts skyrocketing to accommodate for UBI.And now you have a few people who are like, we'll give you a million dollars a year to be a plumber.The system doesn't make sense.It doesn't function.Unfortunately, humans require some kind of.kind of stress and conflict to function. So this idea that every time these problems are presented,
01:45:15they don't make sense. A good example is, hey, we've put kiosks in Taco Bell. We don't needemployees because robots can make the tacos. Okay. Who's going to buy the tacos? They say,it's fine because we can replace when we don't have the birth rates to replace low-skill workers,we'll get robots to do it. Yeah. You're going to get robots to buy the tacos too? Okay. If no one isworking at the Taco Bell to make the minimum wage, who's going to shop at Taco Bell? Nobody,because nobody has the money to do it. Then you say, okay, well, hold on. Let's give everybody a UBI.Then they can go to Taco Bell paid for by robots. So the cost of the robots are low, but if we'regiving money to people for free, if we're taking 30% of the costs of the revenue from the Taco Bell
01:46:02to give to the people dispersed evenly, how will they have enough to generate more thanIt doesn't make sense.The math doesn't add up.How do you generate more revenue from the restaurant to give to people for free?Someone's thought the math on UBI doesn't add up.It's impossible.You need an input of some sort.It could be just electricity.
01:46:23You need some way to balance the withdrawal of the money from the system.And I think putting electricity in is the most sensical way to do it.Like, I don't know if that means solar panels on every house and everyone that hosts a solar panel gets access.Someone has to build the robots.Yes.The investment has to maintain the robots.The initial investments of the solar panels and the robots has to be made.Not initial.
01:46:42Even if you have one person still having to work at Taco Bell to oversee it.Or we get to the point where AI rapidly accelerates so fast that there's no economy anymore at all.Who would open a Taco Bell, the government?So techno-communism, if you come to me and say, you can't make money off owning a Taco Bell, I say, then I won't.Or how about this?You don't need to make money.anymore because of UBI, why would I open a Taco Bell? Then there's no Taco Bell. The math and thephilosophy on UBI literally does not make sense. The value of the market is the amount of labor,
01:47:17okay, it's a lot to break down. The amount of work that we're doing today is a fraction of theamount of work people had to do 100 years ago to survive. But we're still doing something in exchangefor something. To run a Taco Bell, you still say it's not about how hard or easy it is. It's abouthow much time I have to invest in this.And if I have to invest in being the sole employee of Taco Bell,I need to make a certain amount of money.If everybody is getting UBI,it means your food and shelter is taken care of
01:47:48and you can do literally anything else you want,why would anyone do work?Because the UBI is just at a basic subsistence leveland somebody might say, gee, the value of being a plumber,I'm not going to wait until it reaches a million dollars a year.It's up to $400,000.to go be a plumber and things balance without before they that makes sense for someone of themindset of i work because i want more but as we've already the question of the guitar playing is that
01:48:17most people would say i'd do nothing in which case would you work at taco bell for a hundred thousanddollars an hour yeah you would do it well i would if i might want to do more than just play the guitarnobody nobody listen there will be some here's the problem that we we we weI think you have 90, 95% of the workforce gets eliminated over the next five or 10 years through AI and robotics.So either we have a system that is authoritarian and they just sort of get locked out and starved out, hunger games,or you have some way of spreading the benefit.One of the challenges we have right now is that a lot of jobs don't need to exist but have existed for the purpose of the economy.And this is what we saw with Obamacare.
01:49:01when one of the arguments as to why we don't streamline and eliminate a lot of the problems,you know, why don't we do like a universal health care system?It's because health care administration is 20% of our economy.We need there to be a reason that people trade for value.Otherwise, we could have eliminated a lot of these useless jobs a long time ago.Why doesn't the health insurance companies do that then?Because they're profit maximizing.If they can, or if a hospital can eliminate those jobs and maximize the profit,
01:49:29why aren't they doing it?I wonder if, you know, why the government bailed out the auto industry, why there are special rules put in place that insurance companies have to do certain things and can't do other things.And I think the answer is the people who have access to power and are ultra wealthy are like, tell me what to do so I can keep running the system and be rich.And the government's like, don't change anything because these people have to have the jobs.So they could implement change.Like another, another, a really example is taxes.Why do H&R Block and Jackson, who it exists?We could have automated tax preparation 20 years ago.
01:50:05It's 2% of, and it sucks up 2% of GDP, just the act of tax preparation.Because we don't want to blow up the economy overnight, and people have to work to exchange value.Because you cannot have a country where half the people literally do nothing and the other half have to work.Until we eliminate 100% of jobs, you either need some slave labor or people have to keep working, otherwise perception of fairness.So if there are people who don't have to work, mid-level people who are like, you know, I'm a B-plus student,I'm a mid-level manager, I try my best, I'll never be a CEO or a founder.You come to them and say, you know, that guy outside gets a free hotel and doesn't have to work.What are they going to do?
01:50:45They're going to say, I quit.I'd rather have my time and less money than work so they can live off my back.That's what.UBI just does not make sense until we get Star Trek replicators.there is no requirement for any labor. I mean, even then the problem is in Star Trek, they hadproperty and they owned property. So there's still a I have value over you.Don't you think we're pretty close between AI and robotics of having Star Trek replicators?To a certain degree, but again, there's still property and IP and things like that. And the problem
01:51:18is there's going to be this gap that I think we're already seeing where someone says, look,from where I am to where you areto being wealthy and having moreis so far I'd rather justhang out on my friend's farmand smell the flowerssome people but if you want to have a wifeyou got to earn not if you have UBI
01:51:41you can't host a family off 200 bucks a monthwho said 200 a month or 400 bucks a monthwhatever is garbage no one said 200can't host a family off of the bare minimumand it would be a sick family if you triedso you need to earnof universal basic income is to cover those costs.Not family.
01:51:56Yes.I mean, maybe if everybody in the family is getting it, you might be able to get mommy.That's right.Dad gets five.But I'm talking about if you want to thrive, if you really want a healthy family, you need to work.There will always be men that go out there.Let's just pause again and say the argument we're having about UBI is that your basics are covered 100%.That includes a man gets 5K, home gets 5K, the family has 10K per month.
01:52:21The problem is the cost of $1.something much more modest than that, that may be for adults.You don't do it for children.And it would be more like 2,000, 2,500 a month is where this would start.And the idea is, like our current way of redistributing wealth and providing a social safety netis actually creates great economic incentives to break up the family.And we've learned over the last 60 years that's really bad things happen when you break up families.So you want to create a UBI that basically any two adults can get together, live, survive,
01:52:56and maybe even raise two kids on that.But if you want more than that, you're going to be working.I don't see what the solution is then, the alternative solution for if AI and robotics are going to eliminate 90% of jobs,you eliminate 90% of people, or do you create some safety that they can...I don't know if one of my favorite lines, you ever see the movie Snatch?is when the dude's like, don't drink milk, it's out of sync with evolution.And the point is, I don't know that, we'll do a matrix quote.In the matrix, Smith says that we gave humans paradise and they rejected it.
01:53:34Humans need conflict.If we are built for physical labor.If you don't get it, we die.So we created physical labor facsimiles, gyms, so we can go and pretend to do the physical laborthat we needed to survive.I don't know if humans can survive being purpose built for a world that doesn't have purpose.I think you'll see political conflict. I think when you get UBI, you have ideological war.Well, set aside UBI then. Let's just talk about the world as it is. How do you handle the idea that over maybe four years, 90% of jobs aren't going to be necessary?
01:54:11I think that's the case. And I don't know that you can have a society. So, for one, humans can adapt.but the rate of change we're seeing with anaerobotics is terrifying.I don't know how you have a societywhere there's a guy who has to be a farmerwho turns on the TV and see illegal immigrants getting free housing.And he's sitting here being like,I wake up and break my back every single day.And that guy in New York, I quit.
01:54:38I'm going to go live in New York for free.I wake up every morning and look around at kidsthat were born to rich parents and I just deal with it.Like, I just got to do better myself.You know, there's always going to be people out therethat are wealthier than you, that have it easier than you.We have a rising socialist faction because of what you're describing, and they're violent, and theykill people.
01:54:54Well, I'm not advocating to get rid of capitalism.I'm not saying you are.I'm saying in a world where the average working class Joe, who still needs to exist because only49% of jobs were eliminated, sees refugees and other people getting free money off of his taxdollars, he wakes up every day and he makes a birdhouse.And then a guy walks in and buys it from him with money he got from the government.out of his tax dollars, he's going to say, why don't I be them?Why am I the one sucker having to work?
01:55:23I'd rather get paid less, but get to relax and not stress.I don't think that's the human condition.People aren't built to sit around.They're made to create.Correct.And what happens?See, and again, I stress this.Don't project.
01:55:40What do we see when people don't have to work?These people who go out Antifa with guns and bricks and starting fires, they don't have jobs.How are they?When we see a society advance to the point where you don't need to work to survive, people pick up guns and bricks and smash and kill.Well, that's one thing they do.Are you familiar with that famous experiment with a mice?The rat utopia experiment.They stop breeding.
01:56:06They become gay.And I'm not an insult.They start grooming themselves.Then they rip each other the shreds.Their gums bleed and they die.The mothers kill their baby.It's called behavioral sync.Right.
01:56:14It's a, when you don't have resistance.Every living, trees need resistance, otherwise they fall over.Humans need resistance.You called it conflict earlier.It's a type of resistance.It's conflict.Purpose?Yeah, yeah.
01:56:25And purpose, I think that, look, we're really close to matter replication.What they're doing at CERN by smashing particles together is they're creating hadrons,which is a state of quark where it can become a proton or, honestly, it can become an electron.You can, you can take it.electrons and turn them intoprotons. That ismatter replicate. That is takingelectricity and turning it into matter.
01:56:51So that is likehappening. That's what a hadrondoes. Hadrons are versatilethree quark formations.I might be bastardizing some of this, but the math isto do anything like that. I don't know. AIspeeds it up so fast. Sorry, you were sick.No, the singular. I agree with the Ian.
01:57:06The singularity, I'm familiarwith the singularity concept? We're in it.Right now. It's happening. TheThe, six, two months ago, my brother is coding games, vibe coding games through Claude and GPT.And then Astra and Fable come out.And now you can snap your fingers.That was about a month ago.I was like, I did four years of coding over a weekend.
01:57:28We're already past that point.They're actually now.In one month, we are beyond where I was, 100x.They're taking one model, one AI model I heard.And they're just training it just on what's happening at CERN.It doesn't, all it sees is, is.particle collisions and it's learning how particles function.Two months ago, they had thousands of AI models trying to solve a single math problem and it
01:57:50cost millions of dollars at Open AI.They solved the problem.What was it last week or a week ago?Yep.One agent solved 200 and contributed to another 100 plus.The rate of acceleration in AI, it's happening.It is happening.Okay, I'm going to say it again.
01:58:08A month ago, I go, wow, I did four years of coding in two days.The game is still not done.It's being refined and I'm already going, I give up.Because now you can take an existing game, decompile the code, ingest it into the AI and say, use us to build any game you want.What advice do you then give to your millennial or zoomer viewers?Get out of cities.Exactly.Two or three acres, get a cow.
01:58:34Cow is one hundred of cattle.And get two or three acres and get settled down.So you've maximized your worst case outcome.If you get to subsistence farming, you start living with the Walton's.Here's why I say, get out of cities.It is possible to build a system with some kind of universal income,but it can't happen overnight and requires generations of change.Humans do not do well without something to do.
01:59:00Idle hands are the devil's playground, right?What we're watching right now is far left extremists with no purpose,fire bombing, shooting, shooting up Tesla, all this crazy stuff, fighting ice.They don't know why.They don't understand politics.They're listless and purposeless.So they've replaced the work with ideology.And there's no way to get ahead.
01:59:21There's no way they've got the student debt and the houses are too expensive.There's no amount of way that's going to get the amount.Humans want status.Women want status with the best man or among their peers and men want to accomplish.If you take away success and replace it.with uniformity through automation,people are going to go insane.More importantly, Adobe is about to dissolve.
01:59:47I'm not suggesting anyone, I mean, I gotta be honest.I'm gonna talk to my financial expertsabout shorts on Adobe right nowbecause their principal revenue stream is a softwarethat is free.It reminds me of that scene from Iron Manwhere Jim Kramer goes Stark Industries.That's a weapons manufacturer.
02:00:07doesn't make weapons. And I'm looking at Adobe right now. This is a software company that sellssoftware that you can download for free. I'm like, what happens to all of those employees in sixmonths when you start seeing all the corporations come in for their quarterly one assessment or Q1assessment? And they're like, hey, we can shave $50,000 per quarter by eliminating our Adobesubscription and shifting the art craft suite. I think there's a lot of people will be focused on damagecontrol, which is kind of how we're going, talking about UBI. And then a large, a large amount ofpeople will be focused on creating the next phase, which is matter replication or matter fabrication.And I think with matter fabrication, the upside and the white pill is that the most valuable
02:00:46commodity on the planet, what is it? Everybody? Anybody?The most valuable commodity on the planet. Don't say it. Don't say it.Ask the question one more time. What do you think is the most valuable commodity on the planet?And I'll tell you what it is. Antimatter. It's water. Water is the most valuable commodity on theplanet. People are afraid Nestle's buying it up. It's going to be the easiest thing to fabricate.No, it's hydrogen mixed with the oxygen. It's anti-matter.matter.The most valuable thing.
02:01:11The most valuable thing on the planet is water.Anti-matter. Okay. Okay, maybe, maybesomewhere. But to humans right now, the most valuablething on Earth is water. It's the most valuable commodity.You're talking about a commodity. I'm talking about a commodity you can buyand store. It's water.So being able to fabricate waterwith particle collisions is really,
02:01:27really valuable. They could,that might reduce poverty to zeroif people have access to clean water.What do you mean? If we can fabricate clean wateron the spot for people with particle.collisions. Water is not going to stop poverty. I think it's the basis for ending poverty isfresh water for everybody. If we can get clean water, it's just been such a problem, you know,to get... There's only certain parts of the world. You can just get water from the air. Yeah,
02:01:52there's only certain parts of the world where water is... Like, you can literally dig a holeand there's water. Sometimes. And sometimes you can get it from the air, but you need a lot of electricity.And you need a lot of electricity for all this stuff. You don't need a lot of electricity.You don't need it from the air everywhere. Just depends on how high you want toSo I'm white-pilled on like, on not all dying as a human race for the...I think that...I think that...So people started decompiling video games, and then a guy made a video where he was like,
02:02:22and then someone asked me, why don't you just decompile software?So here we go, the entire Adobe Suite's now free.And I'm like, Microsoft is next.You name it, everything.You can make any app you want.I know.YouTube is community.I'm not even threatening.
02:02:35I'm just saying, get ready.We need to, we need to...You cannot.You cannot.The reason I say get out of the cities is because what happens when you have a guy who's 40,he's got three kids, and Adobe goes to him and says, I'm sorry, our revenue dropped to zeroovernight.I have to let you go.
02:02:49We can't even pay you a severance.And he goes, how do I eat?Good luck.You get 30 million people on unemployment overnight.The system doesn't have the money.Pat, if we're going to get bricks through windows, theft, robbery.They're going to ransack farms and steal your chickens.How much, by your estimation, do we have in the, like if we were just to go on a printing rampant,
02:03:07to present a UBI thing in the next two years to slow.How much debt do you think we could take on?I don't think you do it in U.S. dollars.You create a new currency that is gold-backed,and the dollar is going to turn noble anyway.And you run out your liabilities that the government has in the dollar.You pay your Social Security, all these things, keep those promises,but those are going to become overtime worthless,
02:03:34and you move your economic activity into this new currency.currency. I do, I do want to bring, and including the social safety net, and it's a much more modestUBI is what I'm talking about, something that's subsistence, that people still have a reason to gowork. It's not luxury. You're right. If you pay P.E.U.I. of $70,000 a year or more,most people just aren't going to work. Are you familiar with a book called One Second After?Yep. Yes. Right up your alley. That's, I think that you're right. And, you know, that was a CIA,that was a national security planning exercise,that they discovered what it looks like when society collapses,
02:04:11and they classified it all up.This was 2005, and they told the CIA read a novel to teach what we learned,and that novel comes right under that plan.I have a thought on this one.So let's say we are like, okay, we're going to go UBI.Everyone's going to get $5,000 a month,and based on current levels, it's not great, but it's good.You can pay your rent, you have food,
02:04:33We don't expect you to be an investor or anything with his money.So what we end up seeing with automation is that the guy who owns the Taco Bell franchise,he gets rid of all of his employees and robots make the tacos and he has kiosks.Let's say that this actually works.And they say, we're going to tax you at 30% from all the revenue generated so that we can disperse it among the people so they can buy the tacos.The first problem I bring up is taxing 30% of the revenue to fund 100% of the purchases is impossible.But let's just say hypothetically.you find a math solution to that problem.
02:05:06Because the individuals who aren't working, so like basically they have to find value elsewhere and bring to Taco Bell.So the revenue generated is 120% of the costs required.But if you're caught, if you're, if your funding is only 30%, the idea is we're stripping it from all of the businesses and then directing them and mean and market means to better businesses.Okay, let's just hypothetically say that works.The end result is there's going to be a very small amount of ultra wealthy individuals.At the same time, these people are saying billionaires shouldn't exist.So you can't have a political system of ideologues saying no wealth, communism, but also only a fewindividuals who want to work to make more are the ones who should.
02:05:46You might have like smart contract corporations that are just AIs.Like Taco Bell could become an AI and then it's not trying to make money.It's just trying to serve you.Again, the question is, if you have a business and you say we're going to tax 30% of the revenuegenerated to fund 100% of the input, how does that make sense?suppose we were talking about a modest um uh ubi of 2,500 and there's something for health care built into that$30,000 a year is or two people together get $60,000 year for some people they are going to form a householdand just live off that and play grand theft auto others are going to well i think you do something like
02:06:29this fairly modestly as a way to absorbthe layoffs that are coming.And as time goes on, you know...That system will never end.It'll only expand.The only real solution from a mathematic and evolutionary standpointis the people unwilling to work starve to death.Well, you could also use the data centers
02:06:50to pay people to host data centers in their homes.It just requires homeowners, though,because the people that don't own...The point is...What I'm trying to avoid is what you're saying, yes.That is the...Can't avoid it.So the problem with all...
02:07:03all government systems is that they're immortal.And no one on government free money wants to give it up.Social Security is a great example.It is politically impossible to get rid of Social Security despite the fact it's destroying us.See, I think we just live through an administration whose plan was what you just said.Get authoritarianism in place.And then we're going to starve off.I mean, over time, 80, 90% of people are just going to starve it off.
02:07:31This UBI system can work if your people, you're people.People are moral and industrious.But if you have any,so if your population is 3% layabout,well, you know, you can tolerate it.If your population is 7% layabout,you're getting frustrated.If your population is 70% layabout,
02:07:49the other 30% are going to burn everything down.But that's even without UBI.Correct.So UBI accelerates is my point.We've gone way over and I apologize to the membersfor not getting everything through,but I'm just,I thought it was fun
02:08:04and we had a good timein the new studio. It's our first night hereso I want to respect everyone's time.Smash the like button, share the show, follow me on Xand Instagram at Timcast. Final thoughtsyou want to shout anything out or say anything before you wrap up?Great. Congratulations on your new studioand thanks for having me on. Absolutely.
02:08:20Where can people find you?X is the best place these days.Patrick Byrne at Twitter.X. Good conversation, man.Back at you. Yeah, let's...You're far out there. You're thinking you're over thehorizon. You're over the horizon.Bring it back in and we'll cross paths again.
02:08:36I thought I was revolutionary with UBI.you're talking about CERN and Mattermaking manufacturing water.Yeah, I think that's like step three after your step two.We'll be okay. Good to see you again.You guys as well. Nice studio. Thanks everybody for hosting.Thanks to everybody running tech over there. Got Andrew and Carter up in it.Oh, what's up? Yeah. Sorry, go ahead.
02:08:56Ian.Hey, man. You never have to apologize to me, dude. Catch me at Ian Crosson. I'll see you later.Tate Brown. Is there camera pointing at you over there?Yes.This one. Right here. I still got to get it.I still got to get it like dialed in.And when these speakers are mounted, I'll be more part of the conversation.But I can't even see Patrick right now.
02:09:16But yeah, we just getting everything going.First day, it's been a pleasure.I'm Carter Banks.And you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere.And I'm going to go to Tate now.Yeah, X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown.And yes, shout out to,Carter. Shout out to Andrew, Patriot Andrew. Make sure you follow him on Twitter.
02:09:36So it's A underscore Minx, right? It's M-I-N-G-S-T. Shout out to Kellyn, at Kellyn, PDL.These guys have been busting their tails to get the studio ready. They had a, obviously,we have a great team here. I just don't know who wants to get named on, on camera. That wouldprobably be bad if I start, like, doxing people. But those three, those dudes areand they forget somebody and they're like, dude. I hope it's probably other people I'm forgetting,but these are the three that are. Oh, Mark. Mark. Mark.As a very nice suit on today.Mark is kind of the engine room of Tim Cass.
02:10:05He's a very beautiful man.There's a suit on.That's everybody.There's no one else important who should be named.So you named literally everybody.And there's no one we forgot.All right.That's it.
02:10:16Now I'm like being gas-lily.I got the camera on you, man.You are.I'm just the people that are in the room or that are basically in the room.You don't want to get jumped after the show.I know what you do.Shout out to Chuck.Oh, well, yeah, Chuck.
02:10:26Well, Chuck's not here.He's not in the room.It was.Balliosion?Yeah, Chuck.He's, he's a meeting.Our bean counter.Shout out to the bean counter.
02:10:34Who else?He greeted me when I came.Shout out to the security guards.Whole production crew, everybody involved, putting this together.The set's beautiful, by the way, you guys.My mom and dads who are keeping you from me.My mom and dad are awesome.I'm up to the liberal economic order for providing this opportunity to talk shit to our own government.
02:10:52Or that's the American constitutionalist.Shout out to George Washington.Dog.They've been Ellen and Chris.Yeah.Bill.And Greg.All right.
02:10:58We should go eat.Thank you guys very much.for doing all the hard works that we can come and put on the show every day at IRL.I am Phil It Remains on Twix.I'm Phil It Remains on Patreon.You can check out the stuff that are right there.You can check out the band.All that remains on Apple, Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Dizer.
02:11:14And if you are in the Orlando area, all that remains will be playing the Warped Tour in Orlando on November 11th.It's a Sunday.Come on out.It'll be great.Don't forget.The left lane is for crime.Thanks for hanging out, everybody.Welcome to the new studio.
02:11:28We actually have another one because we're building the Tim Pool Studio.and it's going to be awesome.Election night party, two and a half weeks,is going to be insane.The people that are showing up,it's going to be wild.I think half the people don't like the other half.They've got a lot of people who have beef and like it's going to be good.
02:11:43We're going to be live all day here at the studio.Plus, we have an, like this room is just one studio in the big studio.So it's going to be epic.Thanks for hanging out, guys.Have fun this weekend.I got a show up tomorrow on the Timcast channel,and then the Tim Pool show will be on Sunday and we'll see you then.That's a wrap.
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