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00:00Hey everyone. Robert here just with some quick updates before we get to Tower 4. I just want to say that we have been taking a long time to release stuff over the last few months because we have just partnered with Bloody Disgusting and now they are hosting some of our shows on their site. So you can go over to Bloody Disgusting and find six of our shows, six seven lamb shows under the Bloody Disgusting umbrella. We still have our other shows that we're working on as well, but they're just going to help us out with marketing and we have.have a lot of things planned.The problem was it just took a long time to get to this point as we transferred over.So hopefully within the next couple months, we will pick up pace and be able to release alot more, a lot quicker.But, you know, that's just the nature of the beast.This thing is a never-ending cycle of production.So I just wanted to put that out there.
00:53We're really excited to work with Bloody Disgusting and we're excited for things to come.that being said we're also still working with voyage media and there is a new episode of the fever dreams podcast it's been out for a little bit now it's called succubis and it's basically get out meets seven it's an audio version of a jordan peel movie basically it's two african-american female detectives who investigate a series of castration murders of black men only to discover the female culprit may be supernatural it's scary it's surprisingly funny it's one of the best episodes yet of the series so wethink you'll enjoy it. And if you want to listen to a little bit of it, there's going to be aclip of it after this episode of Tower 4. So stick around after the credits to listen to thatand then go to feverdreamspodcast.com to listen to the whole episode. I want to say thank you toeveryone who listens and everyone who donates on Patreon, everyone who follows us on Twitter,Instagram and Facebook. It means a lot to us. Like I said, we know we've been releasingslowly over the last few months, just a lot of stuff going on on the business end along
01:57with a lot of life stuff too.So we're hoping that we will be able to pick up soonand release even more content for you lovely people.Thank you for listening,and we hope you enjoy the next episode of Tower Four.Seven Land Productions presents Tower Four.Season two, episode nine.questions and answers
02:55I looked over a ridgeThe vast field extended for what looked like another mile or twoThe trees were sparse but the boulders were in abundanceI wondered if there were more secret doorsI also wondered how the hell he got down thereOr did heI peered straight down at nothing but jagged rocksBut when I moved my flashlight beam to the left
03:23I saw the descending grassy hill that led to the field below.The grass wasn't as matted down here, but this had to be the way he went.All of this was so dumb.How did I let it get this far?I wanted to leave, and yet I let Amber and Jerry convince me to stay.And for what?I went into that damn bunker and got stuck.I found nothing.
03:50And still I felt bad about leaving Jerry behind,but I couldn't imagine what would have happened if I got stuck in between those two sets of steel doors.Not to mention what the fuck had happened down there.I swear I heard a scream and gunshots over the radio.Mikey, are you ready to talk?Or are you going to ignore me some more?Because this on-again, off-again thing we have a la Sam and Diane is really jarring.Jarring? Is that the right word?
04:22Oh, also, before you respond all awkwardly about my TV reference,Sam and Diane was a bad comparison, so I take it back.We're like the friendship version of Sam and Diane.Maybe along the lines of, I don't know.Who are good friends that also have their ups and downs?Oh, Norman Cliff.Yeah, we're like Norman Cliff.The music had stopped a half hour ago,
04:50and Amber did try making contact.few times, but I was stillunsure how I wanted to broach the subject of asecret bunker. I stilldidn't trust Amber, butI also just didn't give a shit anymore.I wanted answers.I wanted to know what was going on, but
05:05the real reason I was following this cart was to find a way out.I had no idea where I was right now.I heard some movement behind me. I spun aroundexpecting some sort of animal. I knew it couldn't be Jerrynow, but I sawnothing.MikeyHello Amber
05:23MikeWhat was that?I was treating you like NormNorm?I figured you were the normin this friendshipand I'd be the cliffYou know, since you mentioned
05:34you had fat rollsAnd I pretend to know everythingWow, fat rollsYou mentioned itWhen?The first shower time, remember?You said something about being chunkyNo, you did
05:46OhYeah, maybe you're rightSomehow I remembered thatI guess my memory was back in full forceStill, you know why I'm saying this rightDid you hear my comparison to cheers?Yes, I didReally? I thought maybe you were asleep
06:05Yet you still continued to reach outOuch, sorryBut you left me hanging beforeI was busyNot with writingHow do you know?Because I can tellOh yeah? Here it goes
06:19Now is the timeI bet you canWhat does that mean?It means I'm sure you know I'm not writingI'm sure you're aware of everythingHaven't you talked to Jean?Um, yeah, I talked to him earlierAnd?
06:34And he told me about the fireAnd the tremorsWell, he didn't tell me about the tremorsI felt the tremorsHe just asked me to talk to you about themYeah, that makes senseWhat makes sense?I think it's safe to say
06:49you and Jean are more like Norman Cliff.We're not that close.Sure. You guys seem to have a lot of secrets.A lot of stuff you like to keep from me.What the hell are you talking about, Mike?I know.You know?That's right. I know. I know about your little conversations. I've heard them.
07:10What?Your little back and forths about me.Sure. Yeah, we chat about you, but most of the time it's about how you're doing.Jean is concerned and I let him knowYou also do his biddingPlease explainHe didn't want me to leave my towerYou helped him with that
07:27She didn't respond right awaySeems like I caught her off guardMikeI didn't want you to leaveI'm talking about when I said I was going to overarchSeriously I am so confused right nowAmber for fuck's sake I know everythingWell, shit, not everything.
07:49I'm sure you and Gene have a lot of fun chats,many of which I haven't heard,but I heard enough to convince me not to trust you.You don't trust me?No.Mike, can I explain some things?Please, I have plenty of time right now.Oh, why do you say that?
08:06Wouldn't you like to know?I don't know why you're being like this,but yes, Jean and I talk often.Not every day, but maybe every three days or so.He asks about fires, about food, about weather, but he also asks about you.Why?Because you're new, and let's face it, you don't have a lot of experience, and he knows that.I know that.
08:32And hell, you know that.That's the exact same thing Dr. Browning asked of me.Then why did he hire me?You want the truth?Fuck, yes, Amber, I want the truth, if you're willing.I don't know.Oh, come onNo, I'm serious, I don't know
08:51I mean, we needed someone after JerryBut I'm not sure why they'd settled for youFor some reason that hurtAnd I'm not sure whyI'm glad they did thoughI told you I like chatting with youYou know when you're not being a total assI'd rather be an ass than a fake
09:09Me? A fake?That and a liarWhere the hell is this coming from, Mike?Have you not been listening?I know you and Genewanted me to stay.So fucking what?Yes, Gene wanted you to stay.
09:22So did I.But I'm not lying about that.I'm not lying about wanting you to stay.I'm not lying about trying to convince you to stay.And I'm not lying about Gene asking me to convince you to stay.So what exactly am I lying about Mike?I thought about it a moment.I tried to think about everything I heard over the radio when he's dropping.
09:42Shit, did I have this all wrong?Mikey?He's still there?I'm here.Well?Well, what?Don't you believe me?I don't know what I believe anymore.
09:54Well, except one thing.What's that?I'm not crazy.Are we all mad again?I stood there in the field under the bright moonlight.All the clouds are dispersed and I didn't need my flashlight anymore.Hey, if you want to leave, I totally understand.And if you think that I have some evil plan to make you stay, I don't.
10:15I just want you to be happy.So if this job isn't working out for you, then go, Mike.Seriously, I won't be upset.And Gene, well, Jean can take over for Tower 4.Or hell, I can.And then Gene can take three.What I'm trying to say is that things would get worked out if you left.It's fine.
10:40If things are really bad for you, then go.Again, I heard movement, this time in the tall grass to my left.But again, I saw nothing.When Jerry left, we figured things out.We can do the same with you.Don't do anything you don't want to do.My whole life has been doing things I don't want to do.Why do you do those things then?
11:03Because of other people.What does that mean?I walked over to a low, flat rock.I sat on it, placing my backpack to the side.I've always had trouble letting goAlways had trouble focusing on myselfIt's the airplane analogyWhat's that?
11:24It's something my therapist would mention from time to timeTherapistYou never mentioned a therapistI have an old school idea of therapySo I see it as embarrassingToo embarrassing to share with meCan I continue?Sorry, go ahead
11:40What's the analogy?Basically, Dr.Dr. Browning would tell me that I need to help myself first.Compared to when something goes wrong while flying, you know what happens when there's anemergency on a flight and the oxygen masks fall, and what are the attendants always tell youto do?I tell you to put yours on first, before helping anyone else because then you can't help someoneelse before you help yourself, before you solve your own problems.
12:04Okay.I've spent a large portion of my life trying to help others even when I was just as brokenor as lost as they were, sometimes worse.Coming out here and working on my book was supposed to be a new beginning.And when things got weird, I focused on that instead.And when things got...Too weird?Sure.
12:27When things got too weird, I wanted to leave, but I didn't.And why's that?Because of Jean?Because of me?Partly, but also because of Jerry.Um, what?Is this like some weird connection you and Jerry share with the tower?It felt like the right time.
12:48I was tired of keeping secrets and I didn't give a shit about whether Gene was listening.Amber, there's something going on with this place.Something strange.I was being tracked.I pulled out this device.I pulled it right out of my arm.And Jerry, he's here.He's been in the woods searching for some underground bunker and I helped him find it.
13:08I was down there, Amber.I was just down there.Was she having trouble taking it all in?Amber?God damn it!Amber, are you there?Amber?Well, that's perfect timing.
13:33Oh, I recognize this piece.Sounded familiar.I was sure I'd heard it in a movie or two.One other thing I was sure about. Amber couldn't hear me anymore.An hour it passed and the music on the music only stopped 15 minutes ago.I played the whole time over the radio.It helped me stay awake and focused.I was hoping I could find this guy soon
14:51because I was getting tired and I was running low in water.Well, worst comes to worse, I could probably find somethingif I just picked a direction on the map and stuck with it.Actually, I was surprised I hadn't stumbled upon any trails or sights tonight.Sometimes I forgot just how vast this forest was.I thought about reaching out to Amber again, even though it was super late now, but I wanted to know if she heard me before.Whoa.I saw lights over a small hill.
15:26They were faint, merely reaching a tall tree in the middle of the open area.No way.I was surprised I was running, but the adrenaline had kicked back in.When I reached the top of the hill, I saw the cart.Passed the tree in toward the woodline, more forest was only a hundred yards away.The cart was on its side against a group of rocks, smoke slowly rising from under the bent white hood.And while I wanted to find this guy, I needed to still be cautious.I readied my bow on approach.
16:04Hello?Hello?Who's that?I made my way to the front to see the muscular man bent in an awkward way jammed between his seat and a couple of rocks.He had blood in his eye. It tripped down from his forehead. He was not in good shape.Who are you?I thought I'd ask you the same question.This man was in no way of threat.
16:45Not right now.As it got closer, I saw his leg was bent in the way it shouldn't be.I put away my bow.You don't look so good.What happened?He looked around nervously.Who are you?I wasn't sure what I wanted to say to this man, so instead I asked again,
17:06what happened?Here? Yeah, here. Where else? What the hell happened?Hit something. Spun out down the hill.Yeah, yeah, I see that.Wait. Are you that guy? The one I passed?In the bunker? Yeah, that was me.You're not one of...Them?
17:32Them. Wasn't that the same term Jerry used? All that and others?I don't know who they are, but I can assure you I'm not one of them.He stared at me a long while as he struggled to breathe in his awkward position.I'm bleeding out.We need to get you out of there.I can't move.I examined the vehicle wondering if I could push it, tip it right side up.Are you a hiker?
18:04What?Camping.Are you camping here?Geez, I came to find this guy to get some questions answered,but he seemed to have a ton of his own.No, I'm not a camper.Now listen, buddy, I may be able to push this thing over.No.
18:23Too heavy.You won't be able to.That's the spirit.You should leave.That caught me by surprise.You want me to leave?But the man closed his eyesLike he wanted to get some rest
18:40Although he was so messed upThat if he felt asleep nowHe may never wake back upHeyHis eyes shot openEven the blood-soaked oneWe need to get you out of thereI'm trapped
18:51Yeah so was I but I got outHere I bent down and examined his body positionIf I could move the rock behind his backMaybe I'd be able to slide him outI have an ideaWhatI didn't answerI just moved around to the other side
19:06and shimmied the rock.Sorry, let me just...It hurts.It hurts.Hold on.There we go.I have to pull you out a bit, and then we can straighten your leg, if it's not broken.I think it is.
19:24Hold tight.I moved the rock as much as I could.I then lifted the driver's seat just enough to slide his hand out.There we go.When his hand was free, the elbow straightened, and his arm floged.popped back. Sorry, but you're almost out. Okay, here we go. On the count of three.No. Wait. One? No. Two. Three.There you are. Free at last. But his leg looked horrible. There was a gash down the entire thigh, all the way down to his knee. A pool of blood soaked the gravel beneath him.
20:06Jesus.What?Nothing, nothing.I didn't have much that could help, but he was bleeding a lot, so I grabbed an extra shirt and tore it.Oh, God.He noticed how bad his leg was now.Don't look at it.I tore the shirt and several strips and tied them around his leg.
20:29Sorry, but we have to make it tight.No.No.No.One more time.That should do it.The man was way more beat up than I initially thought.But there was blood on his clothes when he left the bunker,
20:46so how much if it was actually due to this crash?Thank you.But you should go.I appreciate the advice.And trust me, I want to leave.Been wanting to for a long time.But I can't just yet.Why?
21:04I shifted the guy and leaned him.against the rocks by the card so he could sit up.You want to know why?Because I've spent too much timein this Twilight Zone episode,and I want answers to all the crazinessthat's happening around me.That includes you and this.
21:23You're that guy.Sure, yeah.That guy.The guy.And, uh, in, uh, tower four.The name's Mike.Nice to meet you.You, you were helping.
21:40That nut.Jerry?Sure, he's a little out there.But it turns out a lot of stuff he was saying was actually true.Trust me, I was just as shocked as you currently look.Apparently the guy didn't find my sense of humor all that funny.So, who are you?I told you.
22:00You need to...Leave.I knelt beside him.Yeah, I'm going to.And this time I will be following through.But before I do,I'd like to know what the hell kind of underground bullshit I was just stuck in.You were...
22:22Down there?How?Me and Jerry tricked you and your friend.I saw you the night you two were packing his things.You shouldn't...be here.And if I wasn't here,you'd still be lying
22:39with your arm and leg bent back.What happened down there?Where's Jerry?They could come for me.They came for the rest of them.And they'll come for me too.You know, I love the riddles and mysteries,but I got enough of them from Jerry.
23:00Who's coming for you?The test subjects.and irisIriswho's Irisand test subjectswhat does that meaneither way
23:14I'm fucked nowthat's what that meanswhat's down therewhat's under the groundwhat's so funnyI don't haveyour answerswhat? You signed some kind of
23:32NDA? Tell me.Don't you get it.I don't know.I'm a grunt.I'm a runner.Things went and got fucked up.Because of that fucking bastard.Who? Jerry?
23:56We thought we got him.But he was playing possum.Fucker was pretending.Pretending.When he came to, he stabbed Roy.Then he let...His sentence stopped and he tried to catch his breath.Go on.
24:23Then he let the rats out.Rats?What rats?I'm telling you.For the last time, go.I'm doing you a favor.I appreciate it, but I'll be okay.No, you won't.
24:44Because they're free now.Loads of them.And, and...And what?And what?It was having trouble breathing.Come on, man.You need water.
24:56I'll get you water.Mike, you happen to still be awake?I was surprised that she was trying to contact me right now.I cautiously picked up the radio and sure what to expect.Uh, yeah, I'm awake, Amber.I took the conversation away from the injured man.Oh, good.I know you and I were having our third fight, or maybe it was our fourth one.
25:32But I wanted to let you know that Jean said they're making a surprise drop tonight.Oh?Yeah.And even though you abruptly ended our conversation earlier,he was adamant about me telling you, so that's what I'm doing.A supply drop tonight?I looked over at my injured friend.His coughing fit had stopped, but he was just sitting there now with his head resting on his chest and his eyes closed.
25:58For a moment, I didn't think he was breathing, but he was.They were just very slow, shallow breaths.Jean said there's some surprise stuff in the drop.I'm hoping it means more banana chips, but...But what?Well, I didn't know if I should tell Jean about your decision to leave again.I didn't tell him anything we talked about.I figured I'd talk to you first.
26:21If you want me to tell him, I will, but if you want to tell him yourself, that's fine too.I'm not sure yet.Oh, okay.Well, I'll keep my memory.mouth shut. I don't want you to be mad at me anymore. I don't like it.I appreciate that.Okay. Well, sorry to wake you if I did. I'm telling myself you were asleep to make the shunsilence easier to cope with. That's not what it was.
26:51If you say so, and remember to get that supply drop early tomorrow if you can. Don't let theraccoons take all your goodies again. Copy that.Oh, and don't worry about that fireThere's a storm moving throughShould put it out in no timeOh, okayOkay, wellGood night
27:10MikeyWait AmberYeahYou didn't hear what I said earlierRight before I shunned youYou mean after the airplane analogyAnd after you creepily mentioned JerryYeah
27:26No, you cut offI tried reaching out for like 20 minutes, but you didn't respond.I figured, no, I was hoping you fell asleep.Oh.But you weren't asleep, were you?No.Then why weren't you answering?Were you upset?
27:49No, radio wasn't working.I was still trying to talk to you.Oh.Sorry.It's fine.But, uh, what did you say?It wasn't the time now.Uh, nothing.
28:05Nothing of importance.Thanks for all the info tonight, Amber.I appreciate it.I'll talk to you later.Um, okay.Good night, Mikey.Good night.I went back over to the injured guy and bent down in front of him.
28:23Hey, you still with me?His eyes parted ever so slightly.Why? Are you still here?Because I didn't get all the answers I wanted.You're running out of time.Then answer quickly.I told you. I don't know anything.You know what's underground. You were down there. You took Jerry down there.
28:50I do. As they say, it's a job.What did they do?They don't.Tell us.How'd you get into the bunker?None of the buttons were working.The lights were out.Everything was off.
29:10Calm.What?That thing.There.He lifted an arm pointing with a finger.He was pointing a little yellow key card-looking object on the ground by his feet.I grabbed it.Calm?
29:25Calm.Key.device.That's right.I examine the thing.It was a thin metal rectanglewith two black dots at the top corner.It looked like a slightly thicker master card.
29:39There was a bloody finger on the back.You call down.They let you in.They open the doors.But why was the power off?It doesn't work everywhere.They run on auxiliary.Power. Now, in sector four.
30:02Sector four, he nodded weakly.What's sector four?This.He looked around.What did you want with Jerry?What do you care?I was helping him find you.Find the bunker, find someone down there.
30:21He escaped.We were...tasked with finding him he grimaced and reached down to his leg the cloth was now completely soaked with bloodyou're bleeding out i know that hell of an accident i motioned to the cart it wasn't the accidentit was the rats the rats what rats they'll be here soon them or irisGod damn it, what are you talking about?But he looked around nervously as he expected danger to be upon us any moment now,which apparently he did.
31:04I'd rather bleed out.Why?But he closed his eyes, concentrating on his breathing.What's your name?His eyelids fluttered open.Lance.Okay, Lance.Please, for the love of God, tell me what's going on.
31:24I'm doing you.favor by not telling you it's not a favor it is it is he took a solid breath and leaned forward intensely staring into my eyesthe the supply drop that she mentioned is not a supply drop it's the way to cover the noise what noise the noise of the helicopterSomething happened down there.Your friend?Helped.Jerry?He said some of them.
32:02Free.I heard something in the grass.I stood to look.See?They're here now.They're here.It's probably just an animal.It's not.
32:20I could feel goosebumps rise along my arms and neck.Shit.You.should go.I grabbed my pack and pocket of his little key card.I redded my bow, knocked an arrow, and headed towards the noise.The grass over here was tall, reaching up to my chest.A slight breeze came through, swaying the grass, making it hard to see any suspicious movement.
33:06I was pretty far from the cart now, but I saw nothing.The noise came from over here.I could swear.The hell was that?Hello?Someone was here.The whisper's not coming from the radio, but...Floating with the wind.
33:33There was movement behind me.Not on my left.Hello?I was actually shaking right now, but tried to keep my composure.Hello?Hello?Who's there?There were several noises now.
33:56Some of it seemed to come from the wood line to my right.That's what I noticed the scrawny figure, standing in the woods.As I moved toward it, the figure ducked into the darkness disappearing.Hello?Fuck this.I turned to make my way back to the cart,but noticed that everything behind me was drowned in darkness.I looked up at the moon, which was half obscured by dark clouds.
34:29The field around me was being encompassed.Oh no.Come on, come on!I searched for my flashlight.I needed it.I saw movement to my right again.Something dove into the tall ground.grass. Where the fuck is it?
34:49There!I turned it on just as the moon was completely blocked by dark clouds.I moved the beam of light over the grass, but there was nothing now.No whispers.No movement.No figures.Shit!I ran back towards the car.
35:13What the hell was that?I slid to a stop as I reached the other side of the cart where Lance lay.But now it wasn't just him.A figure stood hunching over him.I pointed the light at the figure.A grotesque man with jagged teeth and sunken eyes wearing nothing but torn black pants and a dirty white shirt,dropped the bloody rock in his hand.What the fuck?
35:43The man hissed and dove into the tall grass, crawling out of sight.Jesus Christ!I moved the flashlight to Lance whose head was bashed in.He was still alive, but not for long,as the front of his face was nothing but a pile of mush.His lower jaw jutting out from the mess, moving up and downin an attempt to possibly scream again.I was about to vomit, but...
36:04You don't have time to throw up right now, Mike.There was movement all.around me. I saw a figure run by the headlights of the cart, casting a large shadow overme. Oh God, I think it's time to do what Lance was trying to convince me of the whole time.I needed to run. I needed to leave. I didn't have any real idea where to go, but it didn't matterright now. I just turned and ran.Tower 4.Written and edited by Robert M. Lamb.
37:02Starring Jack Austin as Mike.Gina Coyle as Amber.Brian Messick as Gene.Co-starring, Ariel Hack.Ryan Glover, Douglas Sawway, and Shoji Bixby.Music provided by Kevin McLeod of Incompetec.comand Brett Wilkins at Facebook.com slash Wilkins MusicFL.If you enjoy Tower 4, visit 7Lam.com for more podcasts such as this one.
37:32Also, don't forget to follow 7Lam on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, at 7Land Podcasts.This has been a seven-lalm production.And now for a clip from the fever dreams episode, succubus.See that?Mm-hmm.Shit.Talking about, I love my black sisters.Ugh.
38:15One white woman walks in, they circle like dogs waiting to be fed.Look, one's going up to her.You think that's her father with her?I hope so.Hmm.He doesn't seem to mind the attention she's getting.Doesn't take much.She is pretty.
38:31Pretty white.You're just mad about Nate.I'm over that.Oh?You delete his number from your phone yet?Of course.Show me.Mind your business.
38:45Nate was my ex.He also had a preference for white women,at least over me, considering he left me for his neighbor.She does hot yoga.We came to this bar to unwind Sugar and I,and she was wrecking it by bringing him up.We're detectives in the LAPD's cold case unit,which means we spend our days chasing cases
39:05that are dead ends without any leads.on the cases that are losers and no one else wants.It's dispiriting on a good day.What's your position then, huh?Every good black man must be with a black woman no matter what.Should we potential to add it as a law?What about black women and white men then?Since when do you care so much about this?
39:28I'm just saying, it's outdated.Wait, you're dating a white guy, aren't you?Oh, shit.you're dating white jerryyou could just call him jerrywhite jerrydamn how did he swing thathe asked you out on a hot date while he was
39:48fixing your computeryou make him sound like a repairmanhe's the IT supervisor for theentire departmentwowwhite jerryI didn't think he had it in himseriously
40:04how did that happenUh, well, I got a virus in my inbox.I bet you did.Mm-hmm.Girl stop. He came and fixed it.Okay, he makes me laugh.We went to the grove and had dinner.He's nice.
40:22Be happy for me.I am.And stop calling him White Jerry.Listen, I'm only human.While we were off duty, we were still cops.We went outside and discovered the same thing the woman leaving the bar who had screamed had.A black man from inside the bar, one of the men who was eyeing the white woman in heels who had approached her.He was sprawled out in the adjacent alley.
40:48His pants were around his ankles.He had been castrated.Blood was everywhere.It was such a horrific sight that it was hard for my brain to process it.And I had seen hundreds of pictures of dead bodies in my work, not to mention a dozen or so in person.That white woman, the old man.I'll check.She checked.
41:07They were gone.Poof.We called for officer backup, of course.And once they came and secured the scene, we started canvassing the neighborhood.No one had really seen anything.I was watching TV.I heard a scream and that was it.Until we knocked on the right door.
41:28Yes?Sorry to bother you, ma'am.I'm sure you heard some commotion just now in the neighborhood.Yes.Did you happen to see anyone outside of the bar across the street?I see people there all the time.Did you see anyone leave with a black man about 30 minutes ago before the commotion?No.
41:47Are you certain of that?Please leave me alone.I'm going to leave you my card.If you remember, you know how to find me then.Okay, goodbye.She saw something.Yep.Make sure to go to Fever Dreams Podcast.
42:04com to listen to the rest of the episode.