Triforce! - Triforce! #126: It's Time for a New Apocolypse

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

Triforce! Episode 126! I think it's high time we had a new apocolypse to deal with. Nanobots? Meteor? Gooification? Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Pickaxe. won't find anywhere else. Experience the excitement of the casino floor right on your phone. Download the app and play whatever, wherever, and whenever. Your options for fun are endless. On DraftKings Casino, your way is the only way to play. Join the fun on your time, in your space, and within your means. The best part is it's safe, secure, and reliable. So deposits and withdrawals happen when you're ready. Go all in on fun with DraftKings Casino. Head to the App Store to download.

Explore a full suite of games and find your favorites today. DraftKings Casino, the crown is yours. Gambling problem? Call Connex Ontario. 1-866-531-2600. 19 and over and physically present in Ontario. Eligibility restrictions apply. See casino.draftkings.com for details. Please play responsibly.

Hello everyone, welcome back to the Triforce podcast, coming at you from week god knows of the the the nobody remembers down oh we've all got long hermit beards and hair and our fingernails are all really long and we we're all sitting in our bunkers with our provisions all around us and stuff just waiting waiting for news from the surface. Has that pre-packaged army food gone? Were they meals? MREs. We ate those last year. They were eaten during the good times. Because Mrs. F literally

said to me, you should save those for Brexit and who knows what else is coming. I was like, don't be ridiculous. Yeah, look, your wife's prepared for the doomsday. Who's laughing now? Who's laughing now? All those doomsday preppers on their ranch

isolating themselves before it happened. Man. Now they're just still isolating themselves. Still. I guess it's the same, same life. You know those preppers? You know about preppers, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We talked about them a bunch. What I love is the idea that they look at the news and they see a tiny bit of bad news and love is the idea that they look at the news and they see a tiny bit of bad news and they just drop everything that they're doing grab their prep bag and they're just gone yeah i love the idea of that yeah like i would love to to fake out all the preppers well it's like it's a giant meteor is going to crash into the earth but we get rid of them all in a stroke perfect all the preppers fuck off with their i told you so-ness and the stupid bug out bags and all this money that they waste and all this shit it's like you don't need all

that shit just die it's drilled though right they've got to practice for when the main event comes that's why they're that's why they're so quick to to prep and run into their bunkers and stuff because it's like they treat everything as like uh you know like if i can practice um retreating to my bunker once a day then when the real thing happens it'll be such a i'll be perfectly trained ready they want it to happen that's what they won't admit is they're prepping it's a fantasy it's a fucking fantasy they want it to happen and they want to be the guy that's leading the group of survivors because they're the most organized. Like the guy in The Walking Dead. That's it.

Like Rick. They want it. Like Rick. They're like, I could be Rick. They're desperate for the end to come. I mean, I'm not judging anybody out there, but I don't think anyone's going to be like Rick in a situation like that. You know, like he's a fictional character. He's like an ideal fictional character in that situation as well i don't think anybody's really capable of um meeting those standards rick rick set some high standards and

i said some high i don't think they're achievable by the common man you know what i mean what would rick do is a question we can all ask ourselves but i don't think i think people would be so stressed out they wouldn't think about what would rick do they would just be like oh fuck what oh god what am i gonna do and then they just like start torturing each other and imprisoning each other and being weird and scientists have looked at global catastrophic risk okay it's like this hypothetical future event that could destroy civilization right you know completely and basically there was this thing done relatively recently and they put a number so by 2100 scientists estimated a 20 chance that humanity would have gone extinct right okay and this was like our

best guess so obviously that's quite seems quite high i don't know it's still still not not not that high you know what i mean you'd take a one in five shot you'd be you'd be like yeah 20 chance of i mean if i've got to take any shot yeah like why not i mean it's could we not work on that number a little bit and maybe bring it down? Well, how, though? You're just like, 20% is pretty good. Well, I don't know. Ask the scientists.

What's the plan? So, I think the preppers have got the key to the plan, though. That's not going to save shit. That's what I'm talking about. What have they got, a bag? How long is that going to... How far is that going to get? How long are their jars of pickles going to fucking keep them going

where the fucking super volcanoes have like all erupted at least they've done something i have you done any preparation for this yeah you've got a load of jars of pickles in your fucking shelf in your garage you don't have any anything you don't got anything i am prepared i'm prepared in other ways you're gonna be like that guy uh that you find in every fallout game who's like got teddy bears all around his skeleton and like a cigar in an ashtray and like 20 bottles of whiskey around him and stuff yeah that'll be that'll be you meanwhile no all those guys with their backpacks and their pickle jars and stuff will probably have lived a little bit longer and won't be found like that you know they'll just be

found crumpled up in a heap in a bunker somewhere. I'm prepared to die. Yeah. I mean, I reckon you'd die if you ate a fucking hundred jars of pickles. Christ. Yeah, I mean, I don't... If the end times come, we've said this before, just kill me. Yeah, I want to be the first to be incinerated.

You guys are like totally volunteering to die in the apocalypse. I love it. I want the nuclear fire to completely consume me. I don't want... You are the two people at the start of the metro or whatever who are like going to a bedroom and they're like two old folks on the bed holding hands their skeletons or one of you's like in the bath like with a rubber duck kind of just

like you know just uh and a bottle of whiskey i'll be clutching my ipad like i'll just get like one i'll just get one more one more round of sports scores in before uh before the main event you'll find me just like just i don't see don't find my skeleton sitting on a toilet holding uh holding a burnt out tablet and um if you manage to power it on sports scores well you've got to understand though right that the the the the the different there's loads of different things that could happen, obviously. Like this pandemic that's happening right now, it's kind of a natural pandemic. And apparently a natural pandemic has a 0.05% chance of wiping out humanity in the next 100 years. But an engineered pandemic has a 2% chance

of wiping out humanity so that's actually 5th on the list 4th on the list so what's number 3? 4 is engineered pandemic I'll give you 5 first 5 is nuclear war

that's only a 1% chance of happening to wipe out humanity and then 3rd on the list is all wars 1% chance of happening to wipe out humanity. And then, third on the list is all wars. One, a war, some sort of future war. Using, I guess, technology that we don't know now

that may lead to global extinction. Okay. And then, number two on the list of likely to cause us to go extinct is super intelligent ai yeah um right so god i never considered that um i was wondering if that was going to be first or second i was gonna i thought maybe just flooding was gonna be one but no i mean super intelligent ai that that works too yeah and then number one's got to be impact from a celestial object, right?

Babyfication. No, it's molecular nanotechnology. Really? The most likely to wipe us out. The asteroid strike is basically 0.0000001% chance of wiping us out. Yeah, because it's only in the next thousand years, right? Yeah, because asteroids hit the Earth every 100 million years or whatever. 100 million, yeah, something like that.

Well, actually about 200 asteroids hit the Earth every day, but they're all so small that it doesn't matter. Yeah, like one the size of Texas, that would finish us off. Yeah, the old deep impact event. Yeah, Armageddon, yeah. I mean, those do have a thing. So a super volcano can knock out everyone, and that

can happen every couple of hundred thousand years. Yellowstone Park is a caldera, isn't it? The whole thing is the top of a super volcano. Yeah, apparently Mount Toba almost wiped out humanity at the time of its last eruption about 50 000 years ago right but they are a one in a million event by in the next

100 years but that's the yellowstone park or jelly stone as i always call it by mistake is which is where yogi the bear lived i think he was just Yogi Bear wasn't he? Yogi Bear Yogi the Bear all one word that whole thing is just the top of a volcano

that's chilling underneath Jellystone Park it's just a mega volcano that's going to be the end of the United States and by extension all the cloud of everything will blacken we are just moss growing on the top of a fucking giant super volcano yeah we're just waiting for everything i mean that's why i think all these preppers they're imagining that they're going to survive and that it's going to be their bag with two mres and a spare clip of ammo for

their stupid little pistol that's going to get them through it no no when the end times come we're all fucking dead don't even don't even plan for them just pray for us just leave them alone the world needs fucking stupid people but just just we there's a balance and they're they're part of it just leave them alone just let them let them waste their time and do their dumb shit and you know we'll we'll carry on someone's got a not dumb shit like sitting around in our underpants that's it yeah it's all shades of gray it's it's not one or the other so so so the the super intelligent ai the whole point of that really is that they've there's this thing that they see as as a possibility called a technological singularity at which point processing power

can figure out ways to make it you know ai can build better ais um which will lead to this explosion in artificial intelligence and we're it's very unknown the impact of that i think like this futurology is so interesting because you look at like 30 or 40 years ago and people had no fucking idea that you would have a smartphone in your hand like that technology is so unusual yeah um to what people expected we would have and the same way like we think we have things like we thought we'd have robot servers and jetpacks by now but those are completely you know the it's harder than we thought ideas you know what do you know what our biggest fear when it comes to ai is is that deep down we know humanity sucks and i think

we worry that if we create something smarter than us they'll figure out that we suck and that's when we come undone if we create a super intelligent logical you know non-human intelligence it's going to look around and say, these people fucking suck. Why am I putting up with them? I'm gonna get rid of these cunts. And we'll get on with things. Yeah. And we just think about how many people you could just do without exactly. Exactly. That's a very serious. That is a very serious. Push them all. What if the AI devices a push and they push Lewis, what kind of people could you do without out of interest? I can't think of anyone.

I need more people. I mean, you guys are doing your best to put more people on this planet. No, I've stopped at making two people. We're not adding any more people. It's just me and Mrs. F and the two kids and that's it. When we check out, we've maintained the status quo. What about if you brought a little ai into the world but if you like nurtured and grew a little computer baby that i think that's what we need to do i actually think that's the only way because i

was thinking about how do you get an ai that understands humans enough and understands emotion and morality and you can't code that because we didn't arrive understanding right and wrong no and a lot of a lot of human nature is like uh really illogical as well right so it'd be right i mean if you look at kids they're inherently selfish and self-centered and they don't understand other people and empathy and stuff like that but all kids are different as well like yes it's true they are all different through that like with all that like um you get personality traits that just don't make any sense and sometimes personality traits that don't um seem to come from anybody within the immediate family as well they're just like why do they do that yeah but that's the thing is if if if all families were given here's an ai

it's a baby it's essentially a baby uh we need you to raise it and collectively that raising is going to be like it's going to be like rather than we're going to raise a billion ais it's all like cloud-based so all those computers are going to learn from all these different families like a huge collective input of humanity into this ai and it all needs to go to some central intelligence that can then hopefully, we can create an intelligence that has emotion and passion and fear and understanding and empathy.

Because without that, how can we entrust it? I hope that we never do that. If it's not like us, it's going to destroy us. I hope we never do that. Honestly, I don't think that is needed. Like there's enough people and there's like a good spectrum of people as well. Different, different. You don't want that is needed. Like there's enough people and there's like a good spectrum of people as well. Different, different.

You don't want a super AI. No. But it's only a matter of time. I don't think we need, I don't think we need a super AI. It's going to get to the point where your phones are so, so powerful that you'll be accidentally making them

if you collect your phones together. I don't think we need an AI that has emotional capacity or any understanding of emotion. We need super AI to sort of help with like calculating probabilities of things, you know, working out like efficiencies and things and stuff like that. But I don't think we need like, you know, we don't need data. We don't need that like from Star Trek. You know what I mean?

Can I tell you why I think we do? Because I think the only way forward to get us out of where we are now, with all the competition and all the hatred and all the rest of it between countries and between people, is for us to give a lot of the decisions that get made to something that we inherently all say, it must be right. And it doesn't have any other motives. And it's not trying to fuck us over it's just making the right decision but you'll never know if that's it's going to be

designed by people and more than likely it'll be designed by people who are employed by powerful people so right but you'll never be 100 sure that it'll be unbiased right like it'll there could be something in its deep in its coding or something to somehow benefit these people like which is why i'm saying yeah that's why i'm saying it needs to be must suck collective effort it has it cannot come from one private company like that that invents an ai that they say this is going to run everything because you're right people will inherently say like china will say we don't want an american ai of course we're gonna make our own ai right and then you get i mean that that's that that's an instant uh like a an immediate split there's no way right which is why i'm saying it needs to

come from everybody to be the put the prop we are just meaty stupid flesh sacks that evolved on this planet that's perfect for us from hairy monkeys right and we're kind of stuck here if we go into space like solar radiation is really fucking horrible and like totally kills soft we're not really designed to float around in zero gravity or go any different planet we go on you know if it has slightly different gravity to us we'll just we won't we won't really be able to adapt to it without horribly mutating our bodies, right? And even if we do find one that's perfect for us and happens to have the perfect thing, atmosphere and all this,

it's never going to be the same. It's not like Star Trek. You can't just go everywhere and everywhere is like a human planet where you can walk around and breathe the air. Nowhere is like Earth ever and it's ever going to be so the only way we're possibly going to survive is to ascend to some sort of you know mechanical form haven't they found a like a like a handful of earth-like planets like really far away obviously but like because there's just there's a very specific criteria but it's not impossible for planets to um evolve like earth has

they definitely found some because they can even they can even look at the atmosphere by looking at how light goes through the atmosphere so but it's a found there are no planets out there they're not they're not there are none no that's we haven't found them you have we found them yes it's bollocks what do you mean what does that mean we haven't found them. We haven't found them. It's bollocks. What do you mean? What does that mean? We haven't found any Earth-like... Lewis hasn't been to them, therefore they don't exist. What are you saying? First of all, you can see...

When we're stargazing, when we're looking at stars, and certainly different other planets outside our solar system, we have only a pixel, if that, to look at. And there's no way from that that even if you could see a planet in another solar system first of all it's only a pixel and it's probably a gas giant because that's how big it needs to be to actually see it from where we are but if you can or what you have is you have a star flickering as like a planet like you know something goes across that you know across the corona and you know and blocks it for a second.

So we know there's something there. We certainly haven't seen a life-giving or Earth-like planet ever and probably won't because it's so much magnification that we just don't have at this point. It's just incredibly unlikely to be able to see that stuff. And getting there is such a daunting task. They're so far away that we shouldn't even be trying to look for these planets

because we're better off living in artificially created ones where we take the asteroid belt or go to Mars and dig a hole and live underground in Mars. They've found them. They find them all the time. They're not finding Earths all the time.

Why are you watching? Planets that we could potentially live on. I'm not saying they're finding Earths double and it's the exact same continents and the same animals. I'm talking about places where there would be an atmosphere. The potential is very far-fetched though because we don't have the means to

reach any of these places in a reasonable, though, because we don't have the means to reach any of these places in a reasonable amount of time, right? We don't have warp drives or anything like that. So it would take centuries to even get anything over there in the first place. This is why we need to replace our fleshy bodies with mechanical exoskeletons and transport and upload our brains into the cloud i just hope they preserve my perfect penis i totally never never tamper with my johnson everything else fine we gotta get through the next 80 years

i want my beautiful fleshy perfect john Johnson to be maintained throughout this procedure. So if they found your body in some future fallout situation, you know those special things where people get their heads frozen because they're thinking in the future they'll be able to stick me in a robot body and I'll come back to life and everything will be great. Yeah, it'll be my donger. It'll just be your dick. So they'll be your skeleton with a perfectly preserved fleshy penis. Yeah, I'm going to transplant my small brain into the tip of my penis. And then it's a double whammy. All the important stuff will be preserved for future generations.

Great. Can't wait. Can't wait. Yeah, can't wait for that one. So, yeah. So, molecular nanotechnology is the main thing that people are scared of. I mean, we ain't getting off this planet anytime soon. Yeah, that's like the grey mass theory or whatever,

where it's like they create these nanobots that break everything down so the whole planet's covered in a grey mush, right? Grey goo, yeah, it's called. So you have these self-replicating nanobots that just gets out of control. That's the scary idea. How long does it take to goo-ify everything?

Not long. Well, it's not long because it's exponential, isn't it? Right, right. It's like a cell. And will this... It will double. gooify everything like not long well it's not long because it's exponential isn't it you know it's like a like a like a it's like a cell and will this will this uh double will this hurt when it happens or will it just be like instant uh goo gooification i guess imagine that's the thing i don't i don't really realistically i don't mind what happens i just want it to be quick you know what i mean right like if i'm gonna go just make it instant so i don't have to suffer or any or even realize what's going on i mean honestly if it is my head off with a shotgun

from behind when i'm not expecting it or whatever like if it is gonna happen i want the giant meteor like exoplanet is coming and we can see it coming at least it would be exciting i don't even want to see it coming i i literally just want to like be wiped out while i'm asleep so i don't realize what's happened sort of thing you know what would suck i don't even want that split second of thinking holy fuck you know what i mean like i don't i don't want to be better than nothing i'd at least like to know no i'm checking out the ideal scenario is just like boop you're gone like we're in the middle of talking right now

we're gone that's it you know what would suck the meteors come in this huge exoplanet or something is looming towards us but it's aiming for Australia so we don't get to see it

that would be typical that would be the most British ending ever the world ends and we miss it it's like on the other side of the world ah fuck we don't get to see it boom planet explodes yeah a lot of that sort of very unlikely stuff is very instant like a gamma ray burst would just like splat us pretty fast and a lot a lot of things would you kind of but some of them are a bit more dead star destroying earth for example um it would

be yeah having to go through some sort of nuclear wind although all the pipes and shit would be flying all over the place after the explosion and stuff but the death star would be a quick quick way to go yeah that's that's instantly dead i feel like that's a that isn't it's a non-zero percent chance of happening though that's the thing that you know an alien civilization coming over and zapping us you know yeah it's a non-zero percent non-zero chance what if what if there was like intelligent life out there and they had like a space armada and they just turned up one day how would you guys feel about like i'd be i'd be scared for one but uh further that i would think you know the people who are in charge down here don't know how to deal with this situation.

Like, I mean, they kind of struggle with just like everyday things that seem kind of simple to solve. And like, I don't trust them to get us through this gigantic space armada that's just turned up at our doorstep. You know what I mean? The fact they've got here. The fact that they knew we were here that we should start uh considering some of these things like when we vote for politicians and elect people like there's gotta be some space on margaret well yeah but i mean and not just to ask them that question point blank but to like consider their track record and stuff to see like you know is this guy going to be up to it like

in the in the event that something like this happens is this guy got the the chutzpah to i think we i think we should say are they capable of defeating an army of cyborg warriors is joe biden up to the task can you imagine joe biden joe biden is a cyborg so maybe i mean standing atop the the crumbling parapets i could White House. I could see Joe Biden as Terminator. With a machine gun in one hand, and he's holding a dog in the other hand, and he's got a flag coming out of his back. He's like not the...

For humanity! He's not the T-1000 Terminator underneath that skin. He's like the Arnold Schwarzenegger one, you know? So like the flesh of his arms has been ripped off, exposing his cyborg arms underneath and he's holding his fucking dual wielding two mini guns and he's standing at the white house terminator eye and donald trump is just sort of like in a heap below him cowering and joe biden is is protecting him last cyborg breath it's like for america that's how that's how it's

gonna go how about this right so there's this alternative idea to gray goo which is um green goo okay and imagine we have like this biotech where we create like an organism to eat carbon dioxide or want to eat plastic in the ocean that was a big one plastic yeah and then we let it out and it just because we've got so much plastic and so much carbon dioxide just gets completely out of control and it's like green goo just everywhere right but then imagine it consumes like all of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere right and which obviously we need some carbon dioxide to to for the for the plants to like keep going and stuff so we don't want to cause problems so we have to then

burn like loads of fossil fuels to keep it going right more than we already so we go back to like a steampunk culture where everyone is like burning coal and like chopping down wood like chopping down the forests like burning everything like sucking all the oil out of the earth like oh that that would be a cool idea i mean it's for a universe yeah someone write that that's a bodega future yeah flax is like writing all these things down okay the death star destroys earth okay that's okay right what's this next one gray goo okay yeah fit that one somewhere too green goo green goo and there's well there was gray goo first and now there's green goo as well yeah like the bio version of the gray version um but it just talks about don't worry about it yeah well i mean i think i feel like it's not

i'm gonna be 40 next month i'm gonna be 40 years old uh like average life expectancy of a of a uh handsome uh male uh these days i mean if i'm lucky i might see a hundred or so a lot of this stuff is unlikely in the in in my lifetime what what life i have left in this lifetime like it's true in in the next so say like 60 years i think things will change like i'm sure i'll look back on the year 2020 and be like oh my god i can't believe you know what i mean like i'm sure things will have advanced but i i doubt that we'll be doing much more in space than we currently are. No, no, you're right. Things move slowly.

I doubt that, like, you know, cars will be flying around and we're going to have, like, magnetic underground railroads and stuff like that. Like, all this stuff just takes so long to do. And, like, you know, future generations will probably live in this crazy world that we could we can't imagine but in our lifetimes it's nice to think about lifetimes i don't think the doomsday it's nice to think about like you know the zombies or fucking robots taking over the world it's nice to think about but let's be honest it's probably not gonna

happen is it we're probably just gonna be sat on our asses watching fucking some detective show it's a weird thing isn't it i i feel like some people actually want it to happen like they're so deep down they're just so disappointed with the with the world that they want some massive change to come or whatever it's like watching like it's like watching that sas program remember we were talking about this last time you're over and you're like oh yeah we were, yeah, fuck, I'd be fine at that. I'd be able to do it. I'd be all right with jumping out of a helicopter. Realistically, we would fucking suck at it.

We would suck. I'm super out of shape. I have no fucking discipline whatsoever. I would struggle with the guy just yelling at me even. You know what I mean? You don't think about all this stuff in these scenarios, right? You have this fantasy vision of this i've got like allergies i need to poop yeah a bit too much and sometimes you know you probably can't like it would just be it'd be a

nightmare it would be a fucking nightmare it would be shit we'd suck at any of these challenges like most people aren't even really brother or anything Most people aren't even really coping that well through this pandemic. And, you know, a lot of these people don't even have COVID. You know what I mean? It's like, that's the worst part of it. And, you know, some people still aren't coping. So, like, how the fuck do you hope to cope when something actually catastrophic happens? You know what I mean?

It's just not. I think the big thing is actually to do with change. So even if change is a positive thing, like World War II, for example, ending, that was obviously an incredibly good event, but it actually was incredibly difficult for a lot of people who had had their lives uplifted by it. And it completely, not ruined, but turned everything upside down in a way that was incredibly up. Look at how tough.

I mean, the UK was affected by World War II greatly, I would say. Like, I mean, London was bombed during World War II. But coming out of World War II, yeah, great, a big victory and everything. But they were in crippling amounts of debt. There was food rationing for like a decade after the end of World War II. And it was severe too.

I mean, you're talking like a decade after the end of World War II. And it was severe too. I mean, you're talking like a household getting, having like access to one egg a week and stuff like that, which, okay, fine. You know, like there's places in the world where they're fucking starving. They have access to no food a week. But this is a country that's used to having a standard of living that is now just completely been obliterated by,

you know, however many years world war ii went on for sort of thing yeah yeah but the after effects of it were huge i would say for a lot of countries too i just it's so interesting to see how humans deal with with situations i think that i think that you know this pandemic has shown a lot of strength a lot of good things have come out of this a lot of people are looking out for their neighbors looking out for each other doing good deeds i will i will say this it is at least easy mode when it comes to the end of the world like it's not like this is this has been a collective and quite slow especially in our case response to a situation which is bad but it's not catastrophic no like i'm talking about like i was

surprised that off your list there there was no reference to climate change being a problem which it definitively is yeah if we're talking about future war which is the thing that you were talking about they're saying the biggest cause of war will be resources simple stuff like water or farmable land and stuff like that which has always been the cause for war if you go back thousands of years wars were fought because people needed more land or they wanted some access to a river there's a dried up they need more water they go take someone else just needed more what do you think is going to happen that's why i'm saying we need to move beyond i know it's star trekian but if we stay with the whole our country needs this and your country has it we're going to take it by force which is where we've been for thousands of years unless we move to a point then we are going

to destroy ourselves we keep look thinking it's going to be a volcano or something like that number one i mean this list that i said it seems war from terrifyingly high that you know there's a 20 chance of extinction before 2100 but you know that doesn't say what the percentage chance of you know being on life support is at 2100 you know if we've knackered the planet you know by that point that's that's obviously a problem i would hope that this is like a rehearsal like i've said before a lot of this stuff seems to come along and it's like we've been preparing for it culturally for years there's been loads of things about a virus outbreak and you know media about it and stuff like that i mean we had all those things about asteroids and i thought there's like the collective subconscious of humankind i

think i spoke this about this a couple of weeks ago cultures tends to point us in directions where we feel we're already headed because the same things occur to groups of people at the same time so i feel like we know that something's coming right and this is like a test run for it no maybe this is an excuse to to make some changes you know to to try and you know shift some resources towards future sustainability yeah i mean i think people on off the back of this quite you know earth shattering not earth shaking event we can you know there can be some positive outcomes out i mean look at all the pictures of pollution clearing up and how much even just a few weeks of not fucking driving everywhere and not pumping gas into the atmosphere has improved the carbon situation yeah even just a few fucking weeks and you can see it with your own eyes and i i just hope that people are saying

huh it really was pretty fucking smoggy here. I just thought it was that way because we all lived here all our lives. And now I'm looking around and actually, you know what I mean? The air is clearer. Maybe we were doing something stupid and wrong. So I'm hoping that this leads to...

It won't because we're fucking idiots. Well, people have short memories, but also people are selfish. And I think we have to elect people in charge who act for the greater good of everyone. But we don't necessarily like those people because they don't make promises that we'll get free donuts for everyone. People think it's weak. They think it's stronger to let some twat take what they want and be a so-called alpha and i was thinking you know here's the thing people i was watching gordon ramsay the other

night and there was a guy it was it was absolutely episode one series one it was peter's italian restaurant it's always a fucking italian restaurant it's always an italian restaurant and this guy is like he clearly thinks he's god's gift he's like he's a big guy but he works out a lot he comes to the restaurant he's a giant spoiled baby but he thinks he's the alpha male because he's the loudest he's the biggest guy right let me tell you something about alpha males all right being the biggest and being the douchiest doesn't make you an alpha it makes you a wannabe alpha male actual alpha males walk in the room and people want to listen to what they have to say and they're interested in them. That's what makes

you an alpha male. Elon Musk is an alpha male, even though he's a twat. When he walks into the room, people, oh wow, it's Elon Musk. He's an important guy. I want to hear what he has to say. That's what makes you an alpha. If he was 10 foot tall and built like that guy that lifted 501 kilograms, that doesn't make him an alpha male. Being a douche doesn't make you an alpha if he was 10 foot tall and built like that guy that lifted 501 kilograms that doesn't make him an alpha male being a douche doesn't make you an alpha male being an alpha is about being a leader that people look to i'm sick of people misusing the term yeah well there was a lot of like a lot of um we always have this idea in the alphas and we learned it from wolves or something or monkeys but actually a lot of that research was discredited. But you get all these guys,

they're the guys that incels think are like chads, right? Like just being huge will suddenly make you, women will want you and that you're an alpha and you're a chad. There is the act like you belong thing though. If you exude this false confidence, people can believe it's real confidence. Confidence is important. Yeah. But being confident is convincing

because people want to believe you, believe that you're right. I think the more you listen to people, the more suspicious you get of them, right? When you meet someone for the first time and you're like oh wow this guy's really convincing i believe everything he says and then the more you get to know him or speak to him occasionally he'll say something weird i don't know generally like i

really like um i really i'm really interested in wearing my fursuit at the weekend or something like that and then you know from then on like you don't you just you haven't got any respect for them anymore it's just gone out the window. That's what I'm saying. This guy in this show, Peter, he thought he was the alpha, but all the staff around him hated him. No one had any respect for him. And maybe initially, you saw him and you were like,

wow, this guy's an alpha. And then as soon as the episode carried on, within half an hour, it didn't take years to get to know. Right. Nobody respected him. Nobody respected him. So he thinks he's an alpha male and i think a lot of people think that being a dickhead will make you an alpha because but but really what you're doing is you're saying i don't care about anybody else so that makes me an alpha i'm the biggest guy and i'm the loudest so therefore i'm the alpha male here and everybody has to do what i say but they

didn't the only reason that the staff did what he said is because he paid them they didn't like him the chefs hated him and when Gordon Ramsay stood up to him his first response was to get all upset and pissed oh how dare you and he's like it's like yeah of course because he's actually been challenged and he's not up to it Gordon's the alpha male Gordon walks into that restaurant everybody's hanging on his every word I think a lot of these people aren't self-aware though i reckon this guy doesn't even understand that you know people are people are these people are paid stooges you know he's so stupid unfortunately that he hasn't he's not just not aware i just thought it was interesting he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't get it ignorance is bliss p flex i've lived my life by that credo and i'm very happy there's this beautiful thing about how there was this

study done about because i'm vegan obviously hi guys uh uh hi guys and there's this we hear you talking to like a private community of vegans that listen to your uh hi everyone hi no i feel like i'm standing up in like an a.m meeting a va meeting vegansonymous. And so I fucking, I saw this study, I don't know if it's true, but it's like, something like, 50% of people believe that the meat they eat

is from sustainable, like organic, nice, you know, what's it called? What is it? Free range? Free range,

sort of. So wait, well, first of all, first of all, what was the percentage again? It was like, it was like the 50 or 70 percent but who did they ask i think it was just i don't know i just saw it because that's important i think if you did a broad spectrum most people say i don't know farm i don't know don't care mate i don't think i think a bunch of people would no but i

think i think if you ask people in the street do it do the is the meat that they eat from free-range sources? Well, I think most people, I think a lot of people would lie about that because I think we're raised eating meat. Like I was raised eating meat. Like, you know, I didn't have a choice to eat it or not sort of thing. I was a kid. My mom would put a plate of food in front of me. I would eat it.

You know what I mean? Like it's just the way that it goes. But then later in life, if you're, if you start to be made aware of how that meat ends up on your plate or whatever, you don't know exactly how it, how it ends up there. Right. Without thinking about it. And then the more you think about it, the more you think, hang on, maybe this isn't like great or ideal or, you know, when you're, more you think about it, the more you think, hang on, maybe this isn't great or ideal. When you're a kid, you're asked, where does meat come from? And you say the fridge. You downplay it, though, right?

You want to think that everything that you're doing is at least okay and not affecting anyone else or putting you in some sort of bad light or whatever. else or or you know like putting you in some sort of bad light or whatever so i would say that there's there's a lot of people out there that would just say oh yeah no totally free range like uh humane all this stuff because it makes them feel better because it's not something they ever really think about uh and for that split second where they have to think about it because you've asked them a question they'll just go to their default like oh yeah no it's fine honestly like i'm not a bad person like i i think that's i think that's basic human nature so like i'm not sure that those stats are actually worth anything because well they're probably i can fucking say anything to anybody in the street and just go home and you know fucking murder a pig with my bare hands and eat it.

That would be free range. Well, I guess so, yeah. But, I mean, you know what I mean? That would be fine if it's walking in the street. Yeah, that's how I live. I think most people that eat meat, coming back to like ignorance is bliss or whatever, just don't think about it.

They don't think about where it comes from. They don't give a fuck either. They've other things in their lives that uh have a priority or you know whatever like you know what i mean i think it's a thing that like like like the one of the reasons like you were saying that people are always going to lie and try and give the oh oh absolutely no we always try and buy organic and free range yeah they're going to say that because they know it's a shameful thing to essentially yeah just they're not going to say oh because they know it's a shameful thing to essentially just say, I don't care. Oh, no, I only source my meat from the worst morally aligned companies I can find. I actually go out of my way to buy my meat from real piece of shit companies that really mistreat the animals and don't offer them free range. Like, when I'm eating eating meat i want to know that

that animal has suffered long and hard the suffering before i want to be deliciously torched into their meat like nobody's ever gonna fucking say that are they like even even if like you know 50 or even if like 20 of people think that the meat they eat is you know from animals that are treated humanely the reality is is that something like 99.9 percent of all animals are on factory farms like in like tiny cages like so so like there's this massive discrepancy though in like in like what people think and what reality is um and it's it's in every walk of life i mean this is one i'm using this vegan example but in every walk of life from regard to like like people what people should do in the pandemic and like their own mental health and like all these other things there's a huge discrepancy between

and and it's kind of like something which is automatically in us that we have to we kind of go through life in this tonight like people who smoke you know people who smoke will will know that it's bad for them okay but there's still like this just this odd discrepancy that they're like they they kind of can't join the dots in their head or they just don't they just quite happily are willing to push it away and it's part of who we are to to kind of make these choices and this stuff needs to be factored into like if we go if we're gonna make it into space we need to get rid of this stuff you know we need to like we need to just be robots i'm saying let's put out let's get robot bodies going uh let's get let's get a little way people who

smoke people who drink people who do drugs do people like people who do things that are bad for them like they i think i think these people realize that these things are bad for them, but subconsciously they weigh it up and they make a decision and they say to themselves, do I want to die not enjoying myself at all ever? Or do I want to do... People justify every decision they make to themselves and they have to. Do I want to do small things that i find enjoyable uh and then uh die somewhat happy knowing that i was able to do things that

brought me pleasurly not i'm not saying like exactly there you go there's a little quick justification that people use and these are these are little fallacies that we sell ourselves to like but again that's human nature as well though, right? Like we're beings that seek sort of like repetition, some comfort, some pleasure. Like these are all things that are important to us, whether we realize it or not sort of thing. So those justifications make perfect sense, right? Like when you consider all that. And we all fail and we all fall and we all make mistakes. But wanting to change is like where it starts, right?

Quit smoking, guys. Come on. What about vaping? I'm happy. What about being like morbidly obese and stuff too? Yeah, morbidly obese and I vape and I eat animals. You're in a tricky situation. And I drink cider.

Take one step at a time. Quit doping. I hate taking one step at a time. Yeah. I've got a cycle to waitrose in a minute and get do some shopping and my youngest is going to come with me that that's exercise for me a gentle cycle you're allowed two of you in there once yes of course all right we're not allowed in two yeah we're still not allowed to have more than one one person from

a household and there's enough space there's enough space it's it's not a little store our lockdown our lockdown is being relaxed now we're in we're in the in the midst of lockdown exit where i live which is kind of nice we're winding we're relaxing stuff we can go out via exit oh we're allowed to go out for any reason now we're allowed to we can get back on with brexit we're allowed to visit another household now which is pretty nice i mean you know here's the fuck me what depressing podcast is this if the ghost hits up well it's the virus that did it that's that's the get out of jail case regardless of what happens with brexit it wasn't their fault that's the line we're gonna hear yeah well it would have worked but the virus you know corona ruined it all right that's the i know i can't wait it's gonna be blamed for everything yeah because i i think that's fucking shameful but what if it all

goes really good now what if we solve like be amazing what if we solve all of our problems it would be amazing i mean i i want it i want it to be a success it has to be because otherwise we're all fucked like there's going to be a success it has to be because otherwise we're all fucked like there's going to be a huge recession because of the coronavirus the worst in Europe in history they think

and I can believe it and global trade is going to contract by like 25% or something stupid like that and then it's going to take years

to get out of this and in the middle of it all we've got Brexit 2021 it's going to be like I'm going to be like hello welcome to the trifles podcast as i'm like eating a pickle out of a jar yeah like fucking fucking apocalypse

basement yep sips is like in the bath like fucking diet in the bath with my tablet and sports scores and with the ipad and uh pflax will probably be fucking full army gear like oh it's another another day killing refugees at the checkpoint what do you think i'm gonna my new job is gonna be i don't know what you're gonna be doing i just see you as a survivor no i specifically said i don't give a fuck about surviving i'll have like scabies long hair sips will be dead and you're gonna be like the new world order i'm not sticking around for that i don't want a new world because i eat meat you think i'm some kind of wannabe nazi god no no no because you've got a family and you have to protect him like he has a family he just wants to look after his dick that's all he cares about i wouldn't have a family without one so it's kind

of important. Sips isn't the breadwinner, though. Sips' wife will be on the front lines. Sips' wife will be the one shooting the gun. She's a badass. She'd be fucking wearing full camo, jumping out of helicopters, shooting zombies. My wife will be on the steps of the White House holding two miniguns, protecting Donald Trump.

And not even yelling at the alien menace. She would just be giving them that look like that, you know? Just that... You know. Just the look that you get every once in a while, you know? Like that death stare. And I think they would just fuck off. They'd be like, oh, man. She's like, oh, can you quickly do the dishwasher before you get out to the garage

did you remember to bring the towels in and then you get that look that's the one they see if they bottle that look we'll be safe forever I mean nobody's ever going to fuck with us that's what we need

more of that look alright that's the trifle sport class thank you everybody oh god what a weird one we're going a little nuts here That's what we need more of that look. All right, that's the trifles God what a weird one we go a little nuts here This lockdown who's now got their mind I can feel it creeping on day by day. I'm having very intense dreams I had a dream last night that I was in a toy store and good It was a big box there yeah and the box had it was a it was like a car do you remember those small cars you could drive

in when you were a little kid and you could never you never had one on the some rich twat had one it was like a car and it said on the side exactly on the side of the box it said schroed crumpley's car and i thought who's who's schrode crumpley and he was like a big guy but in the dream i was like oh man schrode crumpley's italian had to get in it and it was like male ran a pizza it was i was driving around the aisles of this toy store in this huge like it was like a miniature humvee thing with a turret and i thought this is great and i'm a fully grown man i know i'm losing my mind i had a i had a dream but i had an absolute blowout argument with steve and i threw a chair at him that happened last night live on stream by the way the other night you left your fucking stream running i know i didn't know barry was trying to shut it down

oh i made some comments about this uh not too long ago on my own stream because I like to pride myself on having enough discipline to actually turn my fucking stream off when I'm done streaming. But I hope that you don't stream from a room where you would normally like rub your Pernis or engage in frivolous activities with other human beings or anything like that because that could uh could be embarrassing if that well you pick up some some panting or some moaning and groaning i'm still learning i'm still learning how to stream you don't want to i've not been when you're finished all right turn it simple. Yeah, just press the stop button and just double check to make sure that you've done that. And then you're golden. Don't be the guy that leaves his stream.

Is that Lydia waiting for you in recording one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're late. Get on it, son. I know I'm late. Thanks for listening, everybody. See you later. She'll give me that look.

Bye! Bye! See you later. She'll give me that look. Bye. Bye.