Triforce! - Triforce! #238: Re-Railing Lewis

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Triforce! Episode 238! Flax survives a vape-less Singapore for the Dota Internationals, Lewis goes off the rails (but can't wait to get back on) and we're wondering where male pattern baldness comes from! Visit http://joinhoney.com/TRIFORCE to get Honey for free. Go to http://expressvpn.com/triforce today and get an extra 3 months free on a 1-year package! Support your favourite podcast on Patreon: https://bit.ly/2SMnzk6 Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Well, hello there. Welcome back to the Triforce. Question mark on the road? question mark in the morning. Pflex, let's hear how bad this microphone is. This is what you've got. This is what we have to work with. It's not great. It's not great. It's the new normal. We're just going to have to...

It's only for one week. We'll have to let us suck it up. We've got to get used to it. Well, until next week i'll be back next week yeah then that'll be the new normal how many new normals do i have to suffer through i'm sorry buddy this is not as bad as some that i've recorded uh on the road podcasts with i don't think i know it's bad but i mean it's it's classic though it's like old school um gaming mic exactly you know it's exactly it's fine i'm sure it'd be better if you just filmed yourself on your camera like you do for your vlogs in the morning

that's lovely i only did that three times oh did you only do three yeah i can't i just i can't be bothered to do more the only reason i do them really is to get over jet lag because i wake up at five in the morning with nothing to do so i think right i'll fucking do that and then once you know once i start having a roughly normal schedule i'm not going to fucking not go down for breakfast with everybody because it's i've got to record my vlog and then uploading it takes like an hour so i just thought fuck it i'll um i'll stop fair enough um i still love seeing you in your dressing gown and um you know with your thoughts on the world it does seem like jet lagged pflex.

I feel a little bit like that right now because obviously you're there for Dota. I've been staying up and completely ruined my sleep schedule watching some of it. Oh, man. It's been such, honestly, the weird thing is I know a lot of the criticism that there's been on Reddit and in person because at the event we've had people coming up to us and complaining. Really? Like what kind of stuff? What do they say? hey guys fuck you fucking motherfuckers that kind of stuff but yeah like like low-key like that too i'd be scared of some well that's the gist of it

like but the complaint is basically um i don't know if you know, but this TI is in Singapore. Obviously, that's why I'm in Singapore. And it's split over two weekends. So last weekend, we had four days of Dota and genuinely some of the best TI Dota I've ever seen. Like mind-blowingly good. Some incredible games, incredible series, great storylines, really high quality of play. And there's so many storylines going on because a lot of these teams, it's like their whole year is boiling down to this and for some of them this is like retirement ti you know this is it and all the rest of it so it's a big it's a pretty storied event in that it is funny watching these 15 year olds talk about retirement i always it always gives me a laugh because it's such bullshit as well because they keep coming back and back and back everyone who's promised to retire

is still playing they're still coaching still you see them all the fucking time yeah and they're taking over it's funny but yeah anyway i take it with a pinch of salt as well so so there's that and that the games are really good um but this year so they had it at the sun tech conference center um that's where the first four days of games were played and it was it didn't feel like a ti to be fair they had a very cool stage that rotated so you had the the players at the front uh you know set on two sides and then there were they were sort of if you can imagine that the whole thing that they're on rotates and there's another set of players behind them so there's like four sets of players so you have two sets of players facing the stage and then the other

two sets of players set up their equipment for the next map. Is it like those rotating like toilets or whatever that you'd see on the movies back in the day? There'd be some toilet or something and it would, on the stage and it would rotate and then, you know, it would

be like a guy and he'd be like, oh, read the newspaper and then it would rotate back around again. What am I thinking? That sounds great. I don't know, but yes. would be like a guy and he'd be like oh read the newspaper sure and it would rotate back around again what am i thinking that sounds great i don't know but yes it sounds like a monty python so it meant that the turnover between games was really quick because normally you have like 25 minutes half an hour they're going to get all their keyboards they're going to get everything just right so they can get all that done behind the stage which is great so the turnover of games has been really fast. But that means there's been no soundproof booths this year. So some of the players have complained that they've been able to hear the commentators

and that's not great. And so that was one complaint. And then to get around that, they sort of put headphones on the players that were like more soundproofed, but then they also turned down the audio in the arena so people in the arena couldn't hear the commentary so that wasn't great um also this wasn't in a stadium this was just like on a flat conference hall with a stage at one end so all

it's just all chairs like you'd have at a wedding so that kind of sucked away the the ti atmosphere um there's been no content really this year at all there's normally like the player profile movies all that kind of stuff, all that was missing. So a lot of people feel like if you compare this to TI's of yesteryear, it feels like an earlier TI in terms of the production. So that's been something the fans have been complaining about. What's the prize pool for TI this year?

We don't know yet. Oh, is it still accumulating? No, Valve haven't released it. But that was another thing. The Battle Pass this year, or they hadn't at the time but that was another thing the battle pass this year uh or they hadn't at the at the time this is going to press anyway as it were um the uh the battle pass this year normally what happens is the battle pass comes out way before ti people spend ages playing at it and the money accumulated over the course of that battle pass's lifetime goes towards

ti a chunk of it so this year the battle pass is split so we're having some of it now then we're having ti and then we're having more battle pass stuff so a lot of it. So this year, the Battle Pass is split. So we're having some of it now, then we're having TI, and then we're having more Battle Pass stuff. So a lot of the money that the Battle Pass makes won't go into the TI prize pool, which was the first time I've ever seen that happen, to my knowledge. So yeah, kind of odd,

and people were wondering about that. And also the panel, so the analysts and the, not the casters, the casters are here, but everyone else, the host, all of it casters are here but everyone else the host all of it is done remotely from norway so shiva and all of those guys are out in norway presenting the tournament from there and then you have the casters me slacks and casey that's the only people on the ground here in in singapore uh which is also yeah which is also kind of that's the first time they've

done it that way so people are like oh i wanted to meet those kind of that's the first time they've done it that way. So people are like, oh, I wanted to meet those people. So that's another thing that people are complaining about. That sounds really strange, the whole setup. It looks good from the outside. It's interesting to hear this stuff because bear in mind, like, it's at a weird time, you know. So the games for me are between like 3 a.m. I think the grand final actually starts at 8 a.m. Right.

7 or 8 a.m i think the grand final actually starts at 8 a.m right uh 7 or 8 a.m um and i got an invitation on my phone yesterday from alex and brian it's the weirdest invitation it was like hey dude you want to come around on sunday at 3 a.m in the morning to watch um the international finals and i was like fuck and the thing is when i read it i thought it was actually like because i think i think alex actually said sunday night um so i thought that meant monday morning at 3 a.m because anyway can you imagine if i'd fucking turned up on the wrong day like first of all i'd have to pack leave at 3 a.m to get like some sort of i don't know who does that i'll be the only person in the world oh so such so i guess in norway though that's it's 3am when they're

doing the casting and all the hosting it's just crazy that they can it's it is truly international though it's got like international players they've um and they've done some interesting stuff to try and get people in they've given um i think i think they they're aware that the community is not the happiest so they've decided to they just announced this yesterday they're giving away a swag bag for any for every every dota player and it's going to have a free arcana in it free arcana yeah which is a normally like a corner i think it's like a 30 quid i'm not i don't want to advertise but well fuck it we think this is basically a dota podcast in some ways at this point. Only today. Only today. But yeah, I don't know.

They seem to be, they are hyper aware of their audience and stuff. And I don't know, sometimes it's like when I'm organizing Jingle Jam, I'm sure some people will be like, oh, where was that thing I liked from last time? You know? And we were like, well, that thing didn't seem that popular at the time. So we didn't think it would matter if we didn't do it. I'd like to make them hyper aware of uh my balls uh you know i mean uh fuck all my balls yeah yeah i just want to say um normally i'm i'm all for ti but um i i like when ti is in the summer uh is is my first point

i like it when i i used to like it when it was like in august because uh i could sit around and it was nice and hot or like i could sit in the garden and watch games and stuff you know when they weren't in the middle of the night and um also i liked it when uh ti wasn't on in the middle of the night for me as well i haven't watched a single game and i actually really like watching ti and normally me watching ti means uh like about a month or so of binging on Dota 2, which I won't be doing this year because I just haven't watched any TI. I'm just doing other stuff. It's all wrong for me. I know.

2022 is not the year of who's watching it. The biggest audience, I think, certainly for TI broadcasts on Twitch and all the rest of it is North America, Europe, and I think South America watches quite a bit. China watches a lot, but not on Twitch, I think. I don't know. I guess they watch it on whatever their platform is. So this is a good time zone for China because, of course, it's in line with them, really. So, it's great for the Chinese audience. Unfortunately for them, they only have one team in the Final Four. And PSG LGD got knocked out. Oh, who is in the Final Four for somebody who hasn't been watching?

Who's looking good? So, there's Asta, who are the Chinese team. Then you've got Team Liquid. Wow. Honestly, that's my friend Blitz, who is the coach, one of the coaches for their team. I've known him since TI3. He's a good mate of mine. Him and his girlfriend, who I also met independently of him at UK Dota events.

She's a Welsh girl who played Dota for a UK team. Shout out to Reason Gaming. And she's lovely. So whenever they come over to the UK, we go out for dinner. You want to do a big up as well or just shout out? I'll give a shout out and a big up yeah i would like to do that will is a good lad uh he's a really good really good friend of mine so seeing and also i like i know several of the players from loads of events this week sorry just before we there's only one you

can't have a personal big up otherwise we'll be all right can i just tell you the big up and then you can tell me if it's the big up or not you can propose it i was in uh cheltenham in an art gallery and i was i was i think i was walking around and then when i left a gentleman came up to me handed me a note he said here's a note i was like oh right uh i opened the note and it said i have a tiny penis nice nice i was uh there's no denying that that is a contender for Big Up, for sure. I consider that a classy one. That is very classy. Yeah. Did it look like it was written with a quill pen and ink, like on a parchment?

No, it was on like that classic waiter pad, like notepad paper. Oh, nice, nice, nice. Not like a sticky one. Not like a sticky pad. Or was it a yellow sticky note? You know how sometimes things in the UK, you've seen them a million times before. It's like there's one company still making them and everyone uses that same notepad paper for being a waiter or whatever.

It's very specific for all the orders in the kitchen it's that that stuff um so yeah recognizably anyway carry on people like sorry i just so yeah so team liquid they're my personal sort of the team that i actually really want to see do well are they swedish or they're swedish right so uh liquid is i believe team liquid is a is based in the netherlands i think it's a dutch um org because Because a guy called Victor Goossens is the one who set it up. So I think their headquarters are in Rotterdam or somewhere like that. But a lot of the players are Scandinavian. So MatumbaMan, who is a legendary TI winning player from Finland.

He is retiring after this TI. Genuinely. For real. Yeah. I think it's because, first of all, he's made a ton of money from Dotes. And he's probably first of all he's he's made a ton of money from dotes and has probably sick of traveling and he's he's he wants to sit on his boat and fish in the middle of a frozen lake in finland like that's the dude's dream it's just to chill um i think he also i'm pretty sure finland still has a mandatory national service so i assume that matu will be in the army for a year or whatever so i think you might be having to do that doesn't that drive you doesn't that drive you a bit nuts like because like when i think of these guys who are

really good at dota i figure that's all they do and i can't comprehend that they would have other hobbies outside or time for anything else other than just being really good at dota because it seems so all-encompassing right it does yeah it seems like you have to spend all your time i can't believe that that guy just like goes out and fishes and then comes home and just owns that dota like i mean he's he's incredible he's probably like just last hitting those fish you know he's probably like you know pop into the bait shop and secret bait shop and buy yeah it's just like uh you know all the venom cas. Cashing out. Yeah, he's buying Divine... He's hitting those fish with Divine Ratio and stuff.

Divine Rod. Yeah, Divine... Rod of Atos. Very good. We got there. There was a joke. Very good. We got there slowly.

There's like one person out there that'll understand what we're talking about. Yeah. But yeah, so I really like them. There's also Team Tundra esports right uh and what's interesting about them is that um well they sort of they're they're based in london um so what yeah they're they're that's the most interesting thing about them yeah because that means the uk dota has a shot oh shit yeah fuck i forgot shit. Yeah, fuck it. I forgot. Yeah, UK Dota. They're an international team though, right? Represented.

Right. So they've got a Slovakian, a German, an Israeli, a North Macedonian, and a United States player. Yes, yes. So they're fully representing the world. But think about this. Liverpool doesn't have that many English players playing for it. I mean, there's plenty of times in the Premier League that we think of arsene as being this great english club or whatever

and then none of the players are english or whatever i mean there are at the moment there are north macedonian exactly so i think in that regard you know we look at the players like none of them are from there it's like well you know hardly any other sport has just players from that area i'm not saying i wouldn't like that i'd love to see a uk team in the final four no i i think it's i mean i'd like that though i like that the international has that mixed in it right you've got these kind of more worldwide teams and you've got teams that clearly you know playing together in the same language right like this there was the peruvian team that got pretty far yeah yeah team thunder thunder awaken yeah which is quite funny that they were devastated

man when they got knocked out by liquid so if you if you are a casual dota fan uh or someone who's never watched it before and thinks what are these lads yapping on about if you look up the vods or if you look it up on youtube it should be be there. There was a series played. Let me find the date for you. It was on October the 23rd. Oh, my God. Hold on a sec. Oh, my God. What?

I think that's my wife's birthday. I didn't fucking wish her a happy birthday on her birthday. Well, you were watching Thunder Awakened versus Team Liquid. I was. Game one was particularly good and game three is definitely a must watch. Oh, is this one of those things where like she doesn't mention it and then you travel home and you're like, oh. She hasn't mentioned it.

Fuck. Oh my God, I'm such a bad husband. Right. I cannot believe it. Hang on, sorry. I've just got to check that because I'm, yeah, it's, that's unbelievable. Well, you have to check if it is your wife's birth. Yeah, I'm like, I can't believe I would have forgotten that, i've literally forgotten maybe it's november maybe you're just missing no that's

my my youngest is in november maybe it's did you also have to miss a wedding to go to this my sister's my sister's wedding yeah did you say that was yeah that was there was some uh there there was some hesitation around that as well yeah so flax has sacrificed his entire family to um you're gonna get home and your stuff's gonna be like all your shirts are gonna be in the road and shit oh yeah i i yeah so anyway if to go back to the point if you are a casual fan and you want to know what the what it's all about if you go october 23rd thunder away versus team Liquid. The first game of that series is unbelievable, and the third game of that series, the third game is one

of the best games that I've ever seen. So good. And as a series, I think this is one of the best three-game series I've ever seen, especially at TI. So go ahead and check it out. The third game, if you can only watch one, watch the third game. Bear in mind,

the third game, it's 1-1 and it's literally, if you lose this, you are going home and watch it. But yeah, seeing that was very hype.

And then Team Secret are the fourth team. Team Secret is, of course, Puppy's team. Oh yeah, Puppy. Yeah, legend on the Dota scene.

To give you some idea about Puppy. He has been to every TI, right? He's the only player to have been to every TI. And of course, he won the first TI with Na'Vi. And now he has a chance to win the 11th TI with a completely different team. But to have still been playing all that time.

Who is he playing with on Secret? So that is Crystallis, Nisha, Resolution, and Zayats. Oh, nice. That's a big roster change. He changes up his team quite a lot. Yeah. But it happens in Dota quite a lot, actually, that people shift players around. That's the thing.

At the end of the tournament, you have the after party. And the after party is essentially what they call the Great Fiend. F-I-E-N-D. The Great Fiend. Because the Dota players but they call it the fiend i don't know why but that's what they call it that's when they all get together everybody's in one room you've got all the players that were playing at ti in one room and all of them are looking for either a team for next season or players that they can get in and boot some lad

who's underperforming to improve their chances. So the post-TI roster shuffle is unbelievable. It's really, really huge. And it's very exciting for Dota fans. And then, of course, you go into the next season with these whole new lineups and it takes time for them to find their feet and blah, blah, blah. So it's really, really fun. So that's one thing. And Puppy has always been very good at acquiring players.

If you look at the former players, go to the Team Secret on Liquipedia. The team's been around since 2014. Oh, he's had everyone on it. Yeah, if you look at a list of players, I think I actually, I wrote it out as a question because I had them on the late game show. Well, when they first formed, they were like a super team, right? They were. The first season was like all huge names at the time. It was insane. For those of you who follow Dota,

these are the players who've been on Team Secret. Kuroki, who was, of course, a TI player and legend in his own right. TI winner and legend in his own right. S4, a legend. Fly, obviously, big-time Dota player. Notale, who's won two TIs. That was the first team. Kuro, S4, Tal, Notale, Puppy, which is insane. He's also had Arteezy, Xy, Forever, Envy, Bulba, PilotEye, 1437,

Aoi, Wee, Misery, Universe, MP, MidOne, Kezu, Yap, Zor, Ace, Fata, Nisha, Matu, Iceiceice, and Sumail. That's unbelievable. Yeah, some big names. Huge names. So, you know, he's amazing at finding talent. But the true talent finder in Dota is Sindarin, who's one of the casters he cast with SunSfan. For a few years there, Escape Gaming or Forward Gaming, I can't remember which it was with him, would basically, he would go out into pub games, find players, and they'd have a

go. They'd go to TI, they'd try to qualify, they'd go out first round or whatever. But a lot of the players that Sind played with on teams went on to great things as well an unbelievable number um so there's just some guys they can spot talent that's interesting isn't it yeah i mean it's been around for so long now that it's you know it's it's more of a of an industry in of itself you know like uh yeah i guess kind of like professional sports became like over you you know, decades and decades of running or whatever. It's interesting. It's definitely showing its age in both the design of the game, the length of the game

and the game itself, the client. It's definitely like... Yeah. It's definitely tired. A point that you just mentioned about the length of a game, being tied into an hour-long game. I mean, I've been playing um i've been playing marvel snap which um to be fair is a mobile game but man it's been so good it's a card

game but the games are so short like two minutes like it's incredible it's so good you know you can you can play a couple of games on the can or like you could you could you could finish a game in the time it takes for like a kettle to boil you know what i mean like it's it's just perfect like to feel like those just those those dumb little wasted times like in the day you know like especially if you can't get to your computer it's obviously huge it's ben brode's new game basically he designed hearthstone you know which and then left wizard to make this which is great it's obviously got a lot of money behind it and it's, and it's the, the PC client is terrible,

but apparently they're going to make it a little bit better. It's kind of, kind of hard to play, but it's, it's so kind of, it's Babby's first hearthstone. Although it feels a little bit weirdly like artifacts sets, cause you've got three lanes.

It does. Yeah. You know, you have to win two of the three lanes. Yeah. Um, it's almost like, imagine they took artifact and

they simplified it from three screens down to one vertical screen yeah um and managed to actually make it fun and quick that's the other thing it's so quick like because you both play at the same time so there's no waiting for the other player to take the turn which which honestly is so if you took hearthstone you were like okay how do we speed this up? What's the worst things about Hearthstone? Waiting for the other player, that's gone. You know, playing on, you know, playing around stuff, that's all gone. Being able to like, it's almost got this poker mechanic. So it's called Marvel Snap because at any point in the game, you can basically double the wager, right?

And say, I'm going to lose two or win two squares, cosmic cubes, whatever the fuck they are um instead of one but if you and but your opponent can just fold right there they can just retreat yeah and only lose one cube if they play on they're playing for two um if it goes to the end of the game then you're playing for four and if they want to they can also snap and double it again. So, essentially, you can play for eight. Yes. And also, that's your progression, like, through the ranks. So, you could get, like, eight points towards your next rank if you win.

It's like MLR. And you bluff it and stuff. It's really good. So, you could definitely lose eight. Is it fun? It's super fun. It's kind of interesting. Yeah.

It's nice. And it's like, well, a big problems people had to complain about with Hearthstone was, oh, you know, it's a digital online card game, right? So, sometimes there'll be a location that says, spawn a random card. And sometimes you'll get the Hulk, which is, you know, a huge 612. And sometimes you'll get a 1-1, right? Yeah. And in those cases, you're probably going to lose. So, you could just quickly retreat and lose one cube and know nothing lost.

You don't want to... But if you've got a close game and you think you're going to trick it... Yeah, you can fully commit or you might have a really big play. You might have a big card that is just going to go nuts. And you're sure you're going to win. But also, you could potentially bluff them off it. You can snap and they'll be like oh god yeah i might actually retreat here which is really a cool idea now i will say uh i have one i think about i've played

probably about 100 games of it i have lost i think three yeah well the total the game and really eases you in is because you're playing bots and i still i still am yet to play i think a human no no when you get to rank 30 you start playing against people so it's it's not that long but i've never played against anyone who's emoted um and so i feel like that's the signal right i always i always emote hello just to see if it's a player but no one has emoted back and i just feel like playing for three or four hours against bots works if you're an eight-year-old. But for me, I'm just, I'm like, what is going on here? Like, I can see through it and it feels scummy.

It just feels so scummy. You don't like it? I hate it. Well, you know, like Sip says, I'm going to be apparently playing against players at some point, but I know why, because everyone's doing this now, because they found that people don't want to play a game that they feel bad at. They don't want to come and play a game and lose. Fall Guys have added this.

They basically found that, I might have talked about this already last week or whatever, but they basically added this ranked matchmaking where you you you're put you're put against people of your skill level so that you don't just lose immediately over and over because they found that people were just quitting they were playing two games they were losing and they were quitting right and and never going back but if you win 99 games in a row you're like holy shit i'm the best fucking player at this i'm amazing um i'm gonna keep playing and that is very addicting it's very alluring it keeps you playing yeah even though i knew i was playing Xbox, I kept playing it. Because I was on that.

I almost did it as a morbid winning streak. I was like, how many fucking games of this can I win in a row? You know, coming from Dota where I lose 50% or more of games. And you go on a big losing streak in Dota 2. And those games are an hour long. It's painful when you're on a six or seven game losing streak. It's twofold. It gives you, it teaches you how to play the game but it also helps you gather up some early cards

like progression wise because like the way that you get new cards you don't buy packs like you used to in hearthstone you unlock them through um like leveling up your account and uh the way that you level up your account is by by like upgrading like the cosmetic of a card using like an in-game currency that the game just gives you tons of to begin with. So you upgrade a card and like, you know, it goes from white to green, green to blue, blue to purple, purple to orange,

you know, like the World of Warcraft, you know, rarity colors by the way and as you do these upgrades come from where do you think that came i don't know i have no idea maybe ever quest possibly orange i think world of warcraft was was made by a lot of uh x ever quest fanatics and stuff so could be from that i'm not sure but anyway you um so you get the points um to upgrade your account and every every two points you get for your um your account you um you can unlock a card or unlock currency or whatever so you you want to like upgrade cards to to get new cards so that you can make different decks but like the deck sizes are like what is it like eight

cards ten cards in a deck and and they and it's a maximum of six turns so you you basically play like one card a turn um like on a curve like you would in hearthstone and they all have different like effects or whatever but you you have to win two two of the lanes two of the three lanes and the lanes have like a modifier which is random every game as well and some some days or weeks they'll have like an event that you know favors one type of lane so you'll see it more often sort of thing like there's one right now where when you place a card down uh because you can have a maximum of four cards in a lane um it's called bar sinister you place a card down and it makes four copies

of that card but also does whatever that card does four times as well so like it can be like just like massively game swingingly powerful but it's it's it's kind of fun to see the interactions yeah it's cleverly done so yeah it's huge and i mean the other mega huge game that is is disappointing is is overwatch 2 oh my god don't even get me started oh my god like just i think i just want to say marvel snap for me is not disappointing i've been playing the shit out of it i think it's super fun like i really like it it's yeah i think i don't know how much legs you get into yeah i think it i think it i think i think i'm almost spent but i just you see what i mean but but i think that like it's not deep maybe not

deep enough but it is throwaway fun yeah and i think the nice another nice thing about marvel snap is that your deck only has 12 cards right yeah so it's really easy to do a little bit of deck building yourself like with hearthstone you have to put 30 fucking cards yeah it was and it's a whole mess just a bigger game the game is dragged out for a long time depending on what was big in the meta and stuff like that like it feels like this is just very simple very fun you know not too much of a investment in time and stuff like that like you can you can do as much as you want with it but like uh i don't know it does a lot of stuff right for me at least it feels like a real dad game from a game design perspective it's good because people enjoy making decisions about two or three things um you know and so you know you've usually only got two options of cards

you're gonna play and you've already got three places to play them or sometimes even only two or sometimes sometimes you only got one card and you have to play it there you know so a lot of the time you're not able to think massively ahead another nice thing about it flax you'll probably appreciate this is if you play it on your tablet or on your phone um yeah and you sign in with your google account you can uh there's a free to play version on steam as well that you can sign with your google account and uh it'll it's like so you can play it on your pc and all your you'll be obsessed with it by the time you get back because you were a big into the hearthstone battlegrounds recently weren't you and stuff so yeah no he was playing uh what was he playing magic you were playing magic arena sorry magic arena fan duel casinos

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You can get Honey for free at join honey.com slash triforce join honey.com slash triforce so how do you feel about singapore how do you think what do you think of it well so it's it's a really remarkable city um it feels like you know when they have in a sci-fi movie there's like a futuristic city and it's always got high rises with these big wide roads and then like trees and leaves and bushes hanging down off buildings. And it's like, they've tried to jam nature into skyscrapers and stuff like that. You know what I'm talking about? I know what you're talking about. That is Singapore. And it really is very, very green. And it doesn't feel like it's like a token effort. It feels more like it is

just a part of the way they do things. And it means that everything smells way different from any other city I've ever been to. The air smells nice. It's incredibly clean. There's no city smell. Honestly, it is just a very clean place. You do not see litter anywhere. It's very pretty and it's very expensive, which is one thing I would say. There's a very expensive city to be out and about in, but it's really gorgeous. And I know quite a few of the guys who've been here a few times are like, man, I'm tempted to move to Singapore. But the issue is it is very, very, very costly. And obviously, the part I'm in, which is like the central downtown part of Singapore, it would be like coming to central London and saying, wow, it's so cool and busy

and built up here and everything and not going to the poorer parts of the city. So, I really don't think I've seen enough of it. And you're not allowed to vape there either. No vaping. So, I've been smoking regular cigarettes. And how does that feel? Fucking awful. I bet. Yeah. You can vape like in your hotel room and stuff though. No, no.

Nothing. You're not allowed to bring it into the country. Jesus. So, this is what I was told ahead of time. And it is the case that if you try to bring vape products into the country and they catch you, it's a $10,000 fine, apparently. Holy shit. And apparently they also will cane people for shit like that. So I thought, I ain't fucking about with the Singaporean authorities.

I won't bring my vape stuff in. However, I've seen people walking around on the street vaping with those little pens. All right. And occasionally you'll see people vaping. And apparently there's a sort of an underground sort of black market supply for vape stuff. Now I asked a guy, a Singaporean lad, why this is. And he says that the best answer he can come up with, there are two, obviously, which is the one that most people assume, myself included, that it was because

it's too easy to conceal drugs in a vape pen. it could be CBD oil. There's no way for the police to tell, so they wanted to ban it. The other reason is they can't tax it yet. They haven't figured out a way to tax it the same way they have cigarettes, supposedly. That's the thing. So I don't know if that's the case, because they could just tax them when they sell them, but there's some issue. And he thought that might be the problem as well. But essentially, it's illegal. So I've been smoking Marlboro menthols because I can't stand the taste of regular cigarettes. Oh, my God. Yeah, you had like a pack of Benson Hedges with a dead baby on, didn't you, as well? So the one with the baby is the most disturbing picture I've ever seen.

It is a literal fetus, which is really grisly. And the one I've got, this is the pack I'm on right now, has a lad with a giant hole in his neck and loads of gore pouring out of it. But you sometimes get some good ones, like the one of the dad smoking in his baby's face and the baby is looking away and coughing and looking pissed off. I saw that. It's fucking hilarious. Holy shit. Yeah, that's just a fucking great picture. What a great picture, man. Yeah, it really made me laugh. So, you know, when you're buying them, you can ask the person, oh, no, not the baby one. Have you got any others? And they'll sort of hunt around at

the back of the shelves for one that's got a less offensive picture on for you. But yeah, it's weird. But I'll tell you what, the vibe that you get from smoking in the smoker's corner out the front of the hotel, you really do get chatting to people. It reminded me of being a smoker and you do get a kind of kinship and chatting with people you wouldn't normally talk to because you just stood there for five minutes next to someone. You say, you alright? And then you get chatting. Yeah, I think that's the best part of being a smoker or vaping. Like, I haven't vaped in a long-ass time now um i like take i like uh vaping like if i'm away on a trip or whatever mostly just for that reason you get to just meet so

many people because you're you're just standing there you can chat to them and stuff and it's just a real uh real icebreaker you know fellow stinkers yeah i've met so many people just being outside and smoking i gotta say as much as terrible smoking is the the smokers yeah i've met so many people just being outside and smoking i gotta say as much as terrible smoking is the the smokers that i know are some of the coolest people i know i don't know still it always has had that stupid cool they advertised it in the 60s cool james cowboy yeah yeah like yeah it is it is uh i tell you what i think if you're cool it's cool it's cool stupid uh i know like lewis just said like most of the people he knows who smokes are cool and i this is just like uh like like an add-on to that you know like uh you know sometimes if you're outside smoking or whatever

you're at a convention but particularly if you're a convention where people know like who you are and stuff like that um you can have really nice like interactions with with people because absolutely um you're both just doing something um you know in common or whatever and it's not so like uh you know like somebody like nervously shaking uh to say hi to you and stuff like that it's it's it's much more laid back so it's actually a really nice way to interact with like you know people who watch your content of course you're both imbibing you know addictive drugs that are chilling you out yes exactly like you know it's i guess it's like medicating the interaction as well like medicating and lubricating up the interaction as a as a weedly asthmatic nerd i've never really been able to privy to these

kind of cool cool cool kid interactions uh just watching from afar um you know just get one of them get some uh some popeye cigarettes some candy ones and just pretend that you're just just tap the pack and just tap it you know roll it up in your sleeve and stuff when you're done. Pretty good. Yeah. I did have those when I was a kid, actually. That was – do they still sell those? They come.

Imagine if they had a picture of a dead baby on. I don't believe that they do sell those anymore, actually. I think that they don't. Well, Popeye cigarettes. Yeah, like the little – the toy cigarettes that look like a real cigarette. I don't think they do them. Certainly not in the UK. I can't remember the last time I saw them. But they certainly do them abroad, I'm sure.

I mean, geez, you can – I've walked around some of the shops around here. The sweet shops sell all kinds of bonkers stuff. So, maybe, maybe. Popeye tasty candy sticks. Maybe they do. Maybe they've renamed it from candy cigarettes to candy sticks yeah you could get around it i'm pretty sure you can get around i think they are generally banned you're right actually pretty much everywhere yeah with the with but you know what people people just rebrand these things um well i've i've um

i've been smoking on the balcony. Oh, yeah. Rather than go all the way downstairs because I'm on my flat life floor. You're not tempted to smoke in the boys' room or... The toilet? You're just sticking to the balcony? Yeah. Smoking in the toilet? Smoking in... You can sing the song when you're in there. That's why I'm saying, you know, that's... No, that's madness,

mate. Okay, fine. I mean, because you know, jeez, that set off a fucking alarm on the balcony. For a start, it's incredibly warm here. It's like 30 degrees. Woo. It's very humid. Nice. Very humid.

My God. Yeah. So I'm just like, you know what? I'll just smoke on the balcony. I'm sure they don't mind. I was sitting out there. I was on my phone. I was smoking my menthols like a big baby.

And I hear this funny little voice like, hello. Hello. And I was like, oh, my goodness. I wonder what that hello hello and I was like oh my goodness I wonder what that is and I'm like looking around I look up and it's the cleaner has come into the room and she's just poked her head out the balcony there I am smoking on the balcony I was like stuck it out she's like here clean your room I was like uh yeah yeah yeah thanks thanks thanks and I was like trying to get rid of the smoke and everything but i don't i don't think she dobbed me in yeah i guess you must notice with cigarettes though that it's a it's more of like a contained

activity right like you go out you smoke you come back in you're done yeah for a little bit until you go out for another one i find with vap, you're just constantly fucking tugging on it all the damn time like... Well, you know what? I've honestly noticed... It's like one prolonged session, you know, like... But how much nicotine I'm getting compared to smoking cigarettes because I can smoke a cigarette and it's like, it feels like nothing. Like, it feels like no nicotine has gone into my body.

Yeah. That's how it feels because it's like nothing like it feels like no nicotine has gone into my body that's how it feels because it's like you've really for a start pulling on these things is fucking annoying it's hardly any smoke when you're used to a giant fucking cloud of vape smoke you're like this piddly little sort of just tiny little plume of smoke comes out but they stink, they absolutely stink and I smell cigarettes and everything. They make your teeth and your fucking fingernails and your fingers yellow and shit. But it's way easier to subtly smoke than it is to subtly vape. It's impossible to vape subtly really.

Unless sometimes if you vape and then you blow. If you blow the vape out as hard as you can, you sort of lose it, but you just end up with this pool of smoke, like a little cloud floating around at floor level and gradually forming this sort of strata throughout the room. Funnily enough, those pen vapes, there's far less like cloud that comes out. Oh, yeah. It's like the big cocoon. Yeah, they're much more subtle i've seen i've seen a few people they're more like inhalers yeah really effectively i mean i feel like i feel like you've got like this is the big this is what tom always said about vaping

is that he didn't want to get into vaping because he only smokes like one or two cigarettes a day and they're always like these tiny little rollies and so if he if he if he got into vapes his nicotine consumption would just go through the roof and it'd be very hard to it's bad to drop the to quit the vape the other thing as well is if you're vaping indoors i don't know if you find this flex but when i used to vape in the garage and uh it leaves like a fucking film on everything. Like a residue. And there was just this fucking gross lung juice all over the damn place. So, I've definitely, on the window in my office, there's a definite sort of patina from years of vaping.

This is like a PSA, isn't it? Yeah, it's really gross. of vaping yes this is like a psa isn't it yeah i will say this um it was also when i was smoking i mean that's even worse the smell is perpetual gets into everything and i used to smoke rollies and it actually stained my my fingers um like yellow with the uh the nicotine juice so uh you know it's probably going in my lungs it. It's probably not good for me, but what are you going to do? Yeah, that's the thing. I mean, people are like, like I've had this conversation recently because as Lewis mentioned about Overwatch 2, it's not a game I actually enjoy, but I'm kind of addicted

to it. So, I play it, but like I hate play it. And, you know, people are like, why don't you just stop? Well, because that's not how addiction works. Right. You don't just stop. Like, that's why you're addicted to something. You keep doing it, even though it hurts you or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it takes a long time to get into that headspace where you can move away from this stuff.

Agreed. So, it says here that it comes from Diablo, right? The rare loot color. Oh, like the white white white green blue white for normal blue for magic orange for unique but that came from a roguelike apparently so the designer took the game from the roguelike video game ang band oh the only reason i heard of ang band was because they it was mentioned in Ready Player One, which... Terrible. Or maybe Ready Player Two.

I can't remember. But it was definitely one of these things that was... Yeah. It was okay. It wasn't made into a movie. Ready Player One was dreadful. The book was dreadful. Oh, you didn't like it.

The book was dreadful. It was a bit up itself. Anyway, the point is that then what happened was this turned into the consider system in everquest right so there were a couple of players like alex afrasiyabi and jeff caplan i mean i guess we're talking about i mean wow is that there's a really cool article actually i just googled it but on agronaut.com but it talks a little bit about the everquest thing and then the dark edge of camelot system as well because he played these designers both played everquest and dark edge came on so did i yeah um before playing wow and it was a really it was obviously the founding system

for for made wow and wow was obviously you know the game that it was worse than smoking for me honestly god it's consumed my entire life. I mean, I'd rather someone had offered me a cigarette back in 2003. The new expansion is just around the corner. You, uh, you dabbling? I'm doing a sponsored thing at a castle. Oh, I was meant to do that. I can't do it though.

Say that again. You're doing a sponsored thing at a castle? I know, it's come full circle. It's's come full circle now they are paying me to play well well we did we did a sponsored bit for a tbc classic as well didn't we i'm sure we did one when when that came out not not we've done little sponsored bits over time but yeah i mean i can't i can't not do something that i've spent so much of my life, you know, interested in. And I know so much about the world. I've actually had some little Taurens and Orcs 3D printed.

I'm painting them up. Nice. I've got little, because I'm making like a miniatures game rule set and I want to be able to play in universes. I think cool, like the Witcher and stuff like this, you know, really cool to to have like a little because 3d printing is this incredible tool now that we have um sorry i just throw this all away at the end of the podcast but um i just feel like that there's so much opportunities to make really cool little miniatures games miniatures models oh god it sounds really nerdy actually no i think miniatures are my modern crack. Don't worry about what people think of your

stupid hobbies. What do we all do? We all play stupid things. For most things I would say that, but I would worry about what people think about you. I feel like wow isn't the cool thing. If you ever want to get another girlfriend, you're going about it the wrong way.

Jesus Christ, thank you. No, you're right. I do wrong way jesus christ thank you um no you're right i do need to buck my ideas up this is the problem though i've been hanging out on everyone yeah um yeah sorry i'm single now and as you may or may not know but but it's um it's maybe it's none of your business listener too soon sorry i just thought it would be funny you guys know but i know it's my personal life you know it's it's fine um but yeah i've been hanging out with the old crew but um i think having it having a long-term partner gave me a lot of stability and now i'm living this weird bachelor life where i stay up till five in the morning watching dota and talking

shit with everyone i gotta say i'm kind of jealous like that i haven't changed all my other obligations i still haven't i still have meetings at like nine in the morning you know so i'm i'm going to bed at five and get up at nine where of course everyone on discord all these guys they don't fucking have any shit to do until 2 p.m you know so they're fucking they're having to stay up all fucking night um so i need to like either i need to either change my work schedule or stop going to bed so late but it's hard to resist it's so addictive hanging out with everyone it's like being at the pub every night you know everyone's like oh just have one more drink i'll just stay a little bit longer it's hard to fight these addictions man because they're so it's so nice

everyone's so friendly and you're having such a great time you don't want it to end yeah yeah and that was that was world of warcraft 2 and that's There's so many things like that. We are driven by pleasure. We're pleasure apes, you know? Yeah, oh yeah. We're pleasure monkeys. I am for sure, man. I'm a fucking... We just love eating banana and wanking.

I'm a baboon, but I love pleasure, yeah. We are like fully driven by these... I've just got off the rails a bit recently and you know that can happen but I'm looking forward to getting back on It was just your birthday right? Were you 39 now? I'm 39 now Yeah I'm 40 next year

I'm feeling I'm feeling like every year of that though I've gone off the rails a bit lately but I'm looking forward to getting back on. I love that so much. I love that Lewis' going off the rails is staying up till 5am at night and also painting miniatures.

Still getting up for meetings, yeah. But also very calmly saying, oh, I've gone off the rails a bit lately, but I'll get back on those rails. You can't say should. Gone off the rails a bit today, journal. I went, I was, the reason I was in Cheltenham when I, this, and I just got, you know, was, was on my birthday. I went and hung out with my parents on my birthday. We went and did a mini golf. We did like, we had a meal.

It was nice. My parents are great. Would you consider all this to be part of being off the rails as well? Are you clumping all of this? Just fucking calm down, man. I think maybe. If I was, if I was, if I was, if I still had a partner, I think we probably would have done something, but it just felt like, you know, I was on my own. Maybe your wife's gone off the rails on her birthday as well while you've been away.

My wife doesn't have time to go off the rails, okay? She's- Not you, period. I think he means- Her birthday forgotten about. My wife aka the forgotten bride who I forgot to wish happy birthday to. Yeah. Yeah. So, she's, you know-

Do you know what is gonna happen i'm gonna call her and apologize and she'll say don't you remember you gave me a present before you left and i'll be like oh yeah i'm pretty sure that's what's happened but i'm so sleep deprived and fucking i've gone off the rails a bit lately lads as you know so i may be wrong i may have forgotten but are you looking forward to getting back on the rails? That's the question. Sometime soon. Yes, I'd love to get back on the rails. Well, I think you've been a little bit off the rails this year with your new baby, Sips.

Because three babies has, I think, from my point of view, you have been oftentimes a lot less this year willing to do stuff or come over or do events. I can't. I just can't. I know. It would just be leaving my wife so much in the lurch like it's just and i totally understand that's totally totally the right thing to do um but i think that when you had two kids it was it was almost like you were on the rails you were able to like take a couple of days off to go and do a thing in a car yeah yeah but now it's like i just can't there's either ballet or the horse riding oh my god man don't even get me started the weekends around here recently have just been

every day every minute of every day is accounted for somebody needs to be somewhere i'm driving somebody i'm picking someone up oh man it's crazy it's like uh it's it's like i never knew you like you you have a couple of kids and you're like yeah yeah, it's busy. There's a lot to do or whatever. And then when they start to grow up, holy shit, they want to do a lot of stuff. It's crazy. Like you have to keep on top of it. Need to get them their own like addictions, like get them sucked on candy cigarettes. Oh, yeah.

They'll be off spraying graffiti on old Auntie Mabel's, you know, shed in no time. You know, get them out of your hair it's my uh it's uh my middle daughter's birthday today actually she's seven years old and we got her a barbie dream house 75 plus pieces so guess what i'm doing all afternoon i'm building that thing that's gonna be nice actually i'm looking forward to it i've got i've bought a few um like coloring books and coloring pens i've been doing these jigsaws i've to it i've got i've bought a few um like coloring books and coloring pens i've been doing these jigsaws i've been anyway i've tried i've been trying to get back into like physical hobbies like painting stuff building stuff now is this is this is this off

the rails or getting back on the rails this is part of getting back on the rails right this is this is the rehabilitation this is getting the train back on the rails. Yeah. Coloring books. I'm a bit out of shape. Oh, man. Get some cross-stitch in there. One of the things that we've got happening is, obviously, Jingle Jam is happening the first two weeks of December.

I think this podcast, we're a bit delayed because, well, you know when this is being recorded, but Jingle Jam is coming up pretty quick it's the first two weeks december we've got a really good bundle i've prepared it all it's pretty sorted there's a bunch of people who're going to drop out but it's currently over a thousand dollars which is our biggest bundle ever i'm not announcing that here but just for hype reasons very excited about it everyone's really excited we're gonna do all the good stuff and um yeah I'm super hyped about everything.

Yogs is doing great. Everyone's really happy. PlayUp's a big success. You know, everyone's- it's a great year for Yogs, generally. Oh, the new update for PlayUp for the Halloween stuff's really good. Lots of really funny stuff. We've got some new staff and new folks in the office, like Sarah or Jack, who are just super cool, super funny. And Alistair from PlayUp's just a super nice guy. We've had some really cool creators join, like Lollip. And I don't know, it's just everything it's a really really good year is it lollip lollip lollip lollip lollip g.i yeah i thought it was lollipop guy i've been saying lollipop lollipop she is actually so chill you can say whatever okay but i think lollip is cute yes it's weird anyway we've all got weird names, but I think her name's actually Laurie.

You can call her that, which is fine if you want to. Laurie? Laura. Laura? Yeah. Gotcha. I haven't met her yet. I think sometimes it's easy to remember people's names

if they sound a little bit like their name, if they begin with the same letter. Well, Harry's an easy one. Chris and Sips. Yeah, Harry. Yours is a bit harder but um and i've just given up trying to have an online name at all at this point i just prefer zephos we'll start calling you by your your your e-handle again zephos um but But yeah, I've been... Blue Zephos. I'm just enjoying having space in the office.

And I don't know, we're doing... So one of the charities is Movember. And so I'm going to grow a moustache for Movember. And I shaved my face today. You're not. And I've got such like a chubby little face without the stubble on um ahead of growing out a mustache if you're growing a mustache it really has you can't have the beard

as well right you kind of i don't like the look of like the stubbly beard and mustache or like or even like the really trimmed goatee like the the really trimmed stubble with moustache. I don't think that's a good idea. I haven't been clean shaven in a long time, like razor blade shaven. No, me neither. When I cut my beard back, like after, when I shave my head, I cut everything at the same time. And when I do, my face just looks like a fucking big fat red pudding. It's so bad.

There's no definition. It's just like a big fucking slab it's it's all i'm looking at myself in the mirror i'm like god i need a haircut like i'm i'm i'm definitely like my skin is all sallow like man i had ran out of clean t-shirts the other day and the only shirt i had in my drawer was like uh one with no sleeves it's like you know like one of those like i don't even know why i own this but it was like like one of like those gym shirts you know like it's it didn't have like any sleeves or like a basketball shirt yeah kind of yeah and uh so i put it on it was kind of uncomfortable because i'm not used to wearing it i didn't even realize i owned it i somebody must have given it to me or something

anyway i walk past a mirror and I catch a glimpse and I just, I took it off and just went shirtless until my shirts were clean. It was a disgrace. Like, I've never seen anything worse in my life. Yeah, I do sometimes get horrified by someone taking a picture of me or something that's very unflattering or I've deliberately made like, but then again, I've got a- Sleeveless shirts do not suit me like that i went through i mean i had that long hair that didn't suit me i've been putting terrible pictures of myself on the internet what i just what for years but what i

thought i wasn't doing myself any favors though is like you know god gonna be looking like a fucking thumb with a mustache for the next month you know not that i was planning on you know going dating or anything anyway, but- I hate myself. Man, I just had a thought. Don't you find Lewis- Flax, that Lewis looks like Athene and Seb from Dota had a kid together? Like, he looks just like- like, he looks like they're mixed together. Slightly pre-seedy, right?

I don't know. Yeah, slightly Lebanese in some way yeah the lebanese the lebanese style i don't know like you do kind of maybe you've got like some heritage that you're unaware i think it's just the dark the dark the dark eyes the big um eyebrows the dark hair you know i think that'll change though because you know i was talking to my dad and he was like, oh, the turning point is coming. Now that Brexit's come along, son, foreigners like you will be out of the country. Is that what he said? No. No.

Because when he had me, he had black hair for the first year I was born. And then it went completely white really quickly. That's a stress of children, mate. It really does. And mine is, he was looking at my hair saying, oh, this is the turning point. It starts all going great. God, dads are so mean aren't they I've only got half of his jeans

though so and apparently you know my mum's side all of the men they had male pattern baldness obviously but they did have black hair and it's dark hair I think you get you get that from your mum's side right your mum's

why would that be the case I think that's gibberish your mum's side, right? Your mum's dad. I think that's gibberish. Why would that be the case? Do you reckon that's one of those stupid- I don't know. I'm not a scientist, unfortunately. No, but just explain to me the mechanism. I would be intrigued.

If anybody out there knows this, go ahead. There's a Triforce mailbag coming up soon. Why is it that we think that, oh, that comes from the mother's side why how is your dad just this my dad he's got slightly more hair than i have okay and what about your uh your mom's dad was he bald i don't know i never met him oh try to ask your mom next time you talk to her i don't believe he was i think he had a fine head of hair. But for example, you know. You're right. Why that?

Why would that one gene only transfer from the female gene? Well, some genes are tied to that. Is that true? It's the world's way of doing, it's just a prank, bro. That's the world's just a prank, bro, on all of the young men out there who lose all their hair in their 20s. You know, like it's just one of those. I'd just be curious to find out if it actually is a thing or if it's a load of bollocks. That's the one for the mailbag.

Yeah. Do you guys have anything to say? Sorry, Chris. Sorry, Chris. One second. No problem. Don't email in if you just Googled it. Or if you're just like, I heard.

I don't give a fuck what you think. I can fucking Google it right now. I can Google it. I want an actual expert with something interesting. Maybe these guys are better at Googling than you. We want experts only. Yes, please. Know what you're talking about.

Who've done more than a cursory Wikipedia. Yes, please. You know, you're also talking to someone who is bald, has had a hair transplant, and is considering one. I mean, you know, I'm a wealthy individual, and I want to keep my youthful looks. You're going for it. This is what happens. That should be your Tinder profile.

I am a wealthy individual who wants to keep his looks. Pre-hair transplant Elon Musk. Have you seen the pictures of him? I was just, like, thinking my fucking chubby face. Do you know what? I was just looking in the mirror. I've been watching a documentary series on him. It's on BBC2. There's been two episodes

of it. It's interesting. I'm not a huge fan of Elon Musk, but... This week he changed his profile to Chief Twit and walked into Twitter carrying a sink. You know, he's like he's probably going to buy it.

He's an odd fellow for sure. He thinks he's hilarious. His story is really interesting though. And he's doing his best. How many times he came very, very close to just losing it all as well. It's insane. Yeah.

Well, you know, you've got to risk it. Well, when you decide to build a giant tunnel under LA to act for, to break down traffic, you know, kind've got to risk it to have a biscuit. Well, when you decide to build a giant tunnel under LA to act for- to break down traffic, you know, kind of putting yourself out there, it's a load of bollocks. If you looked at this fucking tunnel, it's ridiculous. It's a stupid idea. He had a bunch of stupid ideas. He's got a bunch of stupid ideas.

The boring company. Well, anyway, I mean, let's not go into it. Kieran, how dare you? He's a visionary. People told Tesla he was crazy too. Shut the fuck up yeah hey listen i got another one for the mailbag uh for for potential um people who submit things the uh there's news uh yesterday that uh that the eu have basically said to apple that they can't use

their proprietary usb things anymore that the firewire thing they have two years to to switch it to like you know universal usb so that people don't necessarily have to buy like the proprietary you know apple thing to charge up their phones and stuff it needs to be switched over to like you know universal usb or whatever yes yes in the eu but now that the uk is not part of the eu does that mean that uh we're still stuck with the proprietary like there's of course there's no we're gonna get fucked like ever like on all these fucking regulations that would be in the consumer's favor because they're eu regulations we won't get them i love the eu for stuff like that it's a real shit they actually look after the consumer it seems but uh yeah not anymore no we're on our own enjoy well you know maybe we can just 3D print our own bits in future.

Yeah, fire a wire cable. Here's what Apple will do. You know the way they remove the headphone jack? My Google Pixel 6 doesn't have a fucking headphone jack either. What they'll remove is any means to charge the phone. So when it runs out of batteries, you have to throw it away and buy a new one. That would be their

dream. Do they have UK plugs in Singapore? Yes, they do. And they drive on the left. That's one of the only places in the world, right? Where they drive on the left in Asia and they have UK plugs. I looked it up. There are a lot of places in the world

that drive on the left. I don't know why I had this in my head that it's wrong. Basically, imagine anywhere that we ever colonized. They drive on the left. And also Singapore has... Apart from America. Right, apart from the US. But if you look at... And Canada. imagine anywhere that we ever colonized they drive on the left and also singapore has from america right apart from the u.s uh but if you look at i mean and canada um i think it's australia new

zealand japan it's a lot it's a long list india drives on the left according to the internet we used to have that yeah countries that drive on the left we used to have that we used to have that we used to have that yeah we used to have to say i mean could you imagine like we are i mean that the world was different then that we were a lot stupider a lot people were less educated less woke less aware and we were running a country on the other side of the world like i mean the idiots we've got today are a fraction of how idiotic they were back in the day right you reckon god yeah i don't know i mean i think i think anything happened well they had people in charge that just didn't give a shit about anyone that wasn't white and it's true it's very easy to run a country when you just don't give a shit about

the people in it and they still have that mindset today you know so anyway on that bombshell i have to go and eat dinner oh well enjoy yourself back to bed i'm gonna go build a barbie dream house uh what a mixed bag of days we have ahead of us you're building a barbie dream house i'm about to go to the food court and then play dota and keep losing games we lost so many games and lewis you said you're gonna get back to bed i'm gonna get back to bed so i can be up to play terraforming mars at 3 fucking am with monkfish and oh deltos i was gonna say i thought it was part of your back on track uh by going well at 11 i've got to start i'm not starting i'm not getting back on track on the rails today don't get back you're going to stay off the rails for the rest of this week. Maybe next week will be the great re-railing.

Next Monday, I've got an appointment to get back on the rails. Rails next week. Well, I'm going to the dentist in the morning. So, I feel like that will be like a moment where I'm like, okay, that's going to be the turning point. Okay? Yeah. All right. Well, good luck.

All right. Have fun. Yeah. Have a lovely time, everyone. Peace out. going to be the turning point okay yeah all right well good luck all right have fun yeah have a lovely time everyone sorry about sorry about being the dad to the christmas dinner but we we we we had to get out of our systems yeah we have this we do this podcast as therapy for ourselves guys um i feel great now it's liberating i'm gonna go i'm gonna go pat a dog and pick flowers. It's off of our chest. We don't have to carry that anymore. If you have something you need to vet, just shout it right now. Just be like, fuck, I hate this.

Email it to me. I want to read these out. I'll make a list of things that people hate. If you've got a thing you're sick of or it's been bothering you, you've been holding it in your head, just send it to PFLAX. PerianFLAX at gmail.com. He wants to know about it. And we'll do it when you're back.

Yeah, we want to know about it. All right, good. Therapy, we're going to help you out as well. I like that. I think we can do that. Yeah, I love you, everyone listening. Thank you to that big ups to the guy who gave me the, passed me the notes.

Big ups to him. And big ups to everyone else. Big ups to the guy who sent me his game. All ups to him. Big ups to everyone else. Big ups to the guy who sent me his game. We can just end it. I'm starving here. Alright, bye. Bye.