Episode 462: Mad Cow Disease (w/ Special Guest: Alexander Aviña)
00:16Welcome to the show this week, everybody.It's September 17th.We are joined by our good friend,Alexander Avina, who's sitting in for Aaron Thorpe.Before we really get rolling today, boys,I wanted to know if y'all saw the early scenesfrom that new Ben Shapiro movie, Infidel.It takes place on a college campus
00:38and like the, it's like pure right-wing fantasy.It's almost like a libidinal fantasy, probably.but the whole thing is like,what if gay pink-hairedpronoun people met actual Islamic terrorists?And then there's a really funny scene going aroundwhere this guy's like, I'm gay!And it gets thrown off of a roof.
00:58I mean, it's just...They have like one joke, man.They really, like...They're obsessed with jihadi terroriststhrowing gay people off of roofs.They love that show.As someone who works at a university,if that ever happens,
01:14I know exactly what I'm going to do.And it's not going to be anything like that movie plot.So I won't detail it for, you know,for the sake of self-reservation.But, yeah, I know what I'm doing.I would hide in the bathroom like that,like that woman on In Savage Detectives,who hides in the bathroom for like a week during like the 68.
01:35Right.What was that?What was something happened in 68 where like the Mexican military, like,invaded the camp.Well, there was one.incident where they invaded the national university, which is a big, no, no, because like most LatinAmerican universities, the national university in Mexico, UNAM has autonomy. So the army invadedit. And then obviously, on October 2nd, there was a horrific massacre at the Plaza of the three
02:01cultures in Tlatelolco. Is that the one that's depicted in Roma? That one's another, no, that's anotherstudent massacre. That happens in June of, of 1971.Got it.I love that movie.It's got some pretty complicated politics.I like it.As a movie, like, I mean, I really like Alfonso Quarron's work.I'm like obsessed with children of men.
02:28But that's a 1971 student massacre, yeah.I've told you before.I wasn't a fan of the black and white because I don't, I don't like black and white shot on digital.I don't, for some reason, I just think it looks tacky.Like, if you're going to shoot black and white, you have to shoot it on film.Look at you.Just, oh, what a smile.Alexi's an autort.
02:46Yeah, of course.Yes, I've heard you talk about autort on fucking TikTok.But yeah, okay, go ahead.Keep preaching that you didn't like Guadone's use of black and white.But listen, if I were depicted in the Ben Shapiro movie, I would definitely, I'd be wearing what I'm wearing now, like a Mexico, Palestine jersey.I have a kofia on, and I'd be one of the first people taken out if I were included in the picture.You would also have a Kalishnikov, you know what I mean?Yeah, yeah.
03:13Actually, so then I wouldn't get taken.Actually, I would be joining the so-called terrorists, apparently.Did you see this email that went out from the Daily Wire?Is Islam a true threat from Ben Shapiro?Hey, I have a question.When was the last time a major studio made a movie where jihadi Islamists were the bad guys?Take your time.I mean, every movie?
03:40He slept through the 80s.Have you watched Delta Force?Like, what are the worst movies ever made?Like, I don't know if you guys have seen this because I'm like older than you guys,but Chuck Norris is in it.The old leader from the Dirty Dozen is in it.And it's like one of the most heavy-handed, like Zionist anti-Arab, anti-Muslim depictions.There's a really, anyway, I'm like, go watch this piece of shit.
04:04It's, it's really interesting.Since the Iraq War, like Zero Dark 30, how many TV shows?Homeland, like 24?24 was insane.That was an insane show.They had narratives on WWE right after 9-11.Come on.The second paragraph of this is pretty funny.
04:25It doesn't exist because the people who made our movies,who make our movies are ready, willing,and able to make a villain out of a pastor,out of a cop, or even out of a guy who owns a lawnmower.What the fuck is that?He just watched David Lynch's straight story for the first time.They're so mad at Training Day.They're like such an unfair depiction of a honest police officer.
04:48I'm having a harder time coming up with non-terrorist depictions of Muslims and movies.Yeah.Like seriously.Yeah.No.Like American?Yeah, for sure.I mean, the one interesting depiction of an Arab leader is like Kingdom of Heaven, right?
05:06The way that Ridley Scott depicts Salahadim.And it's like, ah has his problems too.But that stands out to me because it's one of the few instances.Everything else is Delta Force Chuck Norris.Yeah, yeah.That's a great.Other standard is a crazy thing.Just that movie that came out last year, warfare.
05:26I mean, like, it's this, dude.I enjoy that one.Yeah.What green zone?Remember green zone?Was that good?I remember liking it, but it was probably propaganda.Yeah.
05:38The one with Jamie Fox when they're in Saudi Arabia.What was that one called?Oh,Oh, Sireana.No, that one is.George Clooney.That's a George Clooney.And that was based on a...
05:50Three Kings is Ice Cube.Ice Cube.I think.I always get Syriana Three Kings.And the one that Alex is talking about mixed up.The Kingdom is the one I'm talking about, which actually, if you remember the fightscene on the freeway, that was actually filmed here in Arizona, apparently.Oh.
06:07On the 202.But yeah, no, I can't.I can just think of something.Allah Hadin and really Scott's Kingdom of Heaven.That's all I can think of.Yeah, well, and the new movie, infidel.I think it was what is what it's called.I want to know what movies are making bad guys out of people who own lawnmowers.
06:30Is that like a...Well, I mean, if they're about like undocumented gardeners.They're a threat, too, to the nation, right?Is he talking about like a horror movie?Like, I feel like there's...Isn't there a lawnmower man?There's a lawnmower man.That's a weird movie, yeah.
06:51I don't know if it's...I don't know what he's talking about.Yeah.He should be more scared of leaf blowers.I feel like leaf blowers really scare.That actually scares like white folks across the political spectrum.I'm not, um, I am vehemently anti leafblower.Not the people who work, uh, who use the...
07:09Oh, here we go.You are huge...Is anti-Colon?Keep going there.Anti-Roma, anti-leblower.Okay, I see what's happened to you.You've been in the last couple of years.Okay.
07:22About the end of the show, it's going to be Alex winning common sense immigration reform.We need border security and walls.Now, one of the most black-pilling things I had read in the last 10 years was like the carbon footprint of small engine motor, like small engine, like anything, like a leaf blower, anything like that.like a mopedlike theyput out tons of fuckingcarthey're there
07:46interestingthey're verythey're very badfor the environmentumhealth reasons toolike for the actualworkers is not
07:53yeahthey're not very goodmy father my fatherwas a gardenerfor a long timeand uhhe was alwaysvery hardcore
08:00about facial protectionwhen he waswhen he had to use a leaf blowerso why notwhat happenedto the fucking broomand rakefucking rake
08:09rake the goddamnYou got to take that up with the clients.The clients need the suburban middle class, upper, middle class, upper class.They want spotless lawns and whatever.It's insane.You know, it's funny.He brings up the lot.I don't know one person that would be Ben Shapiro's target audience that doesn't have a brown guy cutting his lawn for.
08:32I'd like to be perfectly honest.Yeah.So I don't know what the fuck he's talking about.Dude, I went, this is some deep lore, but that guy Will Boring or shit, Jeremy Boring, who, you know, made that pin dragon cycle thing for Daily Wire, like sunk like $80 billion into it.And it was a huge commercial failure and did that Lady Ballers film, like, he's like, he is like I died in the wool of fascist, just a dead-eyed psycho.but I went to community college with his brotherwho also did the soundtrack for that lady's baller thingand uh
09:12is that one Jennifer Lopez and themno it's like some daily wire right wingit's just like anti WNBAoh I thought she talked about the movie ballersfor Jennifer Lopez yeah it's much differentokay now I went to community college with his brotherwho is also an insane psychoone of the biggest dickheads I ever met my life
09:32but just the dailywire. I get such bad vibes from the dailywire. Like Matt Walsh, like the whole thing is suchbad. Bad vibes.They're so bitch made too, like in real life. I guaranteethey just fold. Oh, dude. Bitch made.Yeah. That's just that'swhy they're so awful, right? In their everyday lives online
09:53and the bullshit that they produce.Yeah. Well,there's a little bit of a tangent. But anyways, speaking of fuel,let's get it right into it. I likethe first 10 minutes of the showwas just you all name of movies and menaming a movie that wasn't that and you all saidno no no it's
10:10well J-Lo and lady ballers would bekind of hilariouslet's let's bring like thelike Westthe money train crowd and put them in ladyballersthat would beif I had to
10:27you know I don't know how many timeswe've done this show and I'vecome out and said like oh anotherpivotal week in late Americadecline.But I would say this has been a pivotal week in global economics, geopolitics.It has been a very interesting week, to say the least.You know, there are multiple overlapping things going on, crises going on.
10:55But suffice it to say that since the war began with Iran, it was this constant, like,game of watching likeTrump and Bessent, like see how longthey could calm the markets and calm thepublic on what wereclearly dwindling oilsupplies.And perhaps
11:15this paragraphfrom this article in the Washington Postsums it up on thispipeline thatthe Houthis hit, this East West pipelinein Saudi Arabia.The East West pipeline was a keyfactor in keeping fuel prices from
11:31soaring even higher than they did in the past several months. It was part of what this, you know,analyst calls a three-legged stool that helped mitigate the economic damage from the halting ofmost shipping traffic through the Strait of Hormuz. The other two legs of that stole were Chinacutting back its imports of oil substantially, easing the global shortage, and the U.S. and othercountries tapping hundreds of millions of barrels of emergency reserves. Now the reserves are mostlytapped out. China's appetite for imported oil has come roaring back, and the pipeline has been knocked outof commission.I don't know if y'all've seen these photos, but like, there are several photos circulating
12:08from one was a gas station in North Texas.Another one was a gas station, I don't know, maybe it was Pennsylvania, where the dieselis out.They're out of diesel.Diesel's gone.Can I tell you something I've been seeing, too, just yesterday driving around to get gas?The fluctuating price of gas on the sign.Like, no, I'm serious.
12:29Like, one second, it's like three seconds.The next minute it's 419, then 429, then they bring it back down.And it's like, where do you lock it in at?You know what I mean?I've never seen that in my life.I've also never seen gas above $4 in Kentucky ever.Yeah.Other than earlier this year, but yeah.
12:48Also, there's like limit to like diesel prices, right?Like on we've hit the, like there's no more numbers.Like I think it's like 1099 that like the limit.I think it was Galabov, the foreign minister of Iran posted,posted a clip from the Simpsons where Homer goes to fill up.Something happens where the price of oil is too, the gasoline is too high,so it goes to zero, zero, zero, and he gets like to fill up his truck or his RV for free.The Iranians just like, their Twitter game is so good, just dabbing on us.
13:18But the interesting thing about the bombing of the East West pipeline is it's most likely it wasAnsar Allah.But the Saudis were blaming these different, like, Iraqi resistant forces.and the Iraqi resistance forces response was so good.They were like, no, we did not have the honor of bombing your east-west bike one.It's just so good.Hey, trust me, we would have loved to claim.Yeah, yeah.
13:42I'm glad you brought up Saudi Arabia.They're just like, we had, you know, talked about this on the premium episode on Monday.But it is very fascinating to be in the middle of this, like, global geopoliticalrealignment, this sort of reshifting of tectonic plates globally, and then have smack dab in themiddle of it, the 25th anniversary of 9-11, which Saudi Arabia was obviously heavily involvedin.And it's just like, what is the first I've heard of this?This is breaking.
14:19As an immortal technique fan, I've heard an entirely different narrative of, uh, like you weresaying on last show, then, it's like they, they were in the first five minutes after the secondplane hit they were quick to just they could rule that out safely yeah wasn't suspicious at allwhat yeah and so it's like it makes you ask yourself like brother was it worth it was it worth itlike did you get your return on your investment like when you you know did you get what youwanted did you get the world you wanted and uh I don't know granted who knows who was the mastermindperhaps Saudi was just the willing patsy you know what I mean who yeahIt went along with it, the bushes are the ones.
15:00I bet we could hazard some guesses, though, and we would be probably within a range of action.Yeah, 100%.But, like, something that is just fascinating to have witnessed over the last week is, you know, Trump.I want to get to Trump in a second in the week that he has had.But really the month that he has had.But, you know, the last six, seven, eight years.have been an ongoing show.Do you all remember?
15:33One of the first imagesthat come out of Trump wonwas Trump and I thinkMuhammad bin Salmanand someone elselike all standing aroundthat glowing orb.Yeah.
15:42You know what I mean?Like the Saudi royal familyhas tried so hardsince Trump wonto cozy up to Trumpto basically get likesecurity pledges out of himand all this.
15:54And to see it alljust completely fall apartreally in the last sixmonths, but in the last week, it's like they've been completely bitch slapped.Like they, Mohammed bin Salman, you know, the royal family asked Trump to intervene with this newHouthis thing. And Trump was like, no, the Houthis call this. We don't want to, we're not goingto hit the Houthis. He's not even taking their calls. They're not taking their calls.The Houthis and Mom Dani, two people that for some reason, Trump just adored.
16:23Well, remember when, so Biden got defeated by, by, by, um,They almost, they attacked, the answer a lot used anti-ship ballistic missiles.They found out why we don't have health care.Right.It's that supposedly led to a couple of airplanes falling off of an aircraft carrier.So then Biden, so Biden leaves the Red Sea, right?And then Trump comes into office.He sends in a carrier group once again to the Red Sea.
16:52That operation lasted even like last time, right?And I remember when they, when Trump recalled the carrier group and they were asking him in one of these insane press conferences, he's like, oh, no, they're just, the hoot. These are great fighters. They're just a great fight. Like, so yeah, it's, yeah, he has a really interesting. I mean, but like, his instinct is correct. Like, this is an area of the world that's been kicking ass of, you know, of invaders for like 500 years. Like, whether it was the Ottomans or the British, like, yeah, you probably don't want to mess with.with a group that like i think americans were fed this like steady diet of mainstream mediacoverage that represent answer a lot one as a hootie so it makes it sound like they'restar wars rebels the villains they're also always described as like rag tag rubble like they're notthey're ruling over 80 percent of the population in yemen they have pretty advanced if peoplehave noticed they have pretty advanced like ship and drone technology and they're also partof a political coalition that includes like 14 different groups including socialists and
17:56communist parties. But we're being told that they're just a bunch of rag-tack rebels up in theNorth Yemeni mountains. So when they do something like force a carrier group out of the Red Sea,we're supposed to be shocked. But like, they've been doing this. And Saudi Arabia is findingout and looking good while they do it too. I might add. The outfits are, I want one of thosedaggers. That's what I want. Oh, yeah. We all need. We need staffs and we need daggers andwe need staffs that you pull out to reveal a dagger.Yeah, that's right.No, I don't know.
18:27I want the Yemeni dagger that you just think you tuck into your belt.Like, imagine going to teach.Is it like a crescent-shaped?Yeah, like the handle is the...Yeah.Those are times.Those are pretty tight.Walk around one of those in Phoenix, USA.
18:42You don't want to mess with a man with a crescent-shaped dagger.In my experience.You're going to need that.That or a machete.Step aside.Step aside.You're right this way, sir.you're going to need that in the
18:57I'm already jumping around herebut in the comingI saw this todaythe Colorado River crisis will be a defining moment in U.S.history the river supplies 40 million peopleblah blah blah blah butfilling themfilling the reservoirs that supply
19:1340 million people would takeeight consecutive very wet wintersa statistical impossibilityall things are possible with GodOkay, I'm not going to hear that, Meg, stop.We are living here in the Southwest.We are approaching, I guess this is the way to connect the two stories.We are really going mad max.
19:36Like, we are running to have guzzaline, and we're being told not to get addicted to water.It's dire, man.You need a bullet farm.I'm working on it.I'm working on a bullet farm or a dagger farm.You need a dagger.It's got to make some connections abroad.No, I mean, it is, it's dire.
19:55I mean, the United States alone is facing at least several different overlapping crises of which there's really no easy solution and, you know, really good that we have really smart, compassion of people in charge.The GOP governor candidate for governor here, Andy Biggs, who's just the biggest piece of maga shit, his proposal for water is to start building desalination plants in the Sea of Cortez.He hasn't said how Mexico is going to give them permission to do that.No, he just says we're going to go in there and start building desalination plants.So, yeah, it's getting dire.It's getting dire.I remember 10 years ago, people were saying, like, well, we'll just carve up a glacier and fly it in.And it's like a big ice cube and you big ice cube.
20:50Into the Colorado River.You know, fellas, I've kicked benzodiazepine, sugar.Water should be a breeze, you know what I mean?I bet it might depend on water.It shouldn't be too hard.The problem is that someone like Immorten Joe is going to have access to the watertelling you to kick your addiction to water.That's the problem.
21:12He's not the most stable guy or democratic.Yeah.Good looking, though.Very handsome.healthy yeah yeah well yeah how prescient are the mad max movies just a disaster presided over by grotesquerywell there's a few headlines i want to like read on that note right so like let's just startglobally um there was a headline in the new york times that i thought really summed it up just perfectlylike just like the cost of all this right
21:48fuel riots spread around the worldand Trump approves $2.8 billionarms sale to IsraelI mean if you couldn't ask for a betterexample of what this is all forand I say this is someone who is yesa climateenvironmentalist of climate activists
22:08someone who would like to do some sort of economicdegrowth would like to sink shrinkinganti-leaf loweryeah yes getting rid ofLeaf blowers.He takes a principal line, though.He does.Yes.
22:22We have to get rid of our dependence on fossil fuels, obviously.But I don't think, and I've said this many, many times,I think that a capitalist-led degrowth is not going to be fun, not going to be good.Granted, maybe the degrowth crisis itself presents an opportunity for some sort of interventionfrom another group, prefer.on the left.But I just,you know,
22:50while we're in the thick of it, though,I mean,I written and read the New York Timesarticle about the global,like, fuel riotsand in, like, the Philippines,and Syriaand, you know,
23:06large parts of the global south,obviously.And, you know,you're seeing unrest.You're seeing people not able tomake money.to support their families.And that, the nuance of like we need to break our dependence on fossil fuels, you know,
23:26this is not something I'm celebrating is what I'm saying,because it is coming at the cost of a lot of pain and sufferingthat could have been mitigated had we had some sort of more equitable distributionof goods and resources and a more managed decline from fossil fuel dependency,rather than like the Zionist colony and the great Satan go to war with Iranand close a global shipping channel.Do you know what I mean?Like that's not really the, I don't know.
23:58Do y'all think Trump against?I really think they think there's like an oil ferry.You know what I mean?Like they don't understand that they destroyed the oil fairies, you know, like house.You know what I mean?Like they don't understand like fundamentally like,it's not even like the oil it's like there is no mechanism to get it out because you've made this mess sort ofand then like you've closed the straight and all this stuff i don't think they understand
24:21i think most just most people in america don't kind of understand like we just expect that to alwaysbe there you know what i mean we've not wrestled with like fuel crisis at least not since like the 70sright or was it the 60s when you know you see all those images of the cars lined up and everythingbut well they think that they believe in new oil ferries so they knew oil fairies inVenezuela.That's right.And that's the plan, right?I think if it was up to Trump and his people, well, I think there's internal divisions
24:50about it.But let's say like the Vance people, their thing would be to pull out of West Asia and comeand come and punish Latin America.And I think they're kind of setting it up like that anyway.Yeah.I don't know if you guys saw, but they took Venezuela off of like the drug traffickingcountries.So all of a sudden, who knew?
25:07The cartel of the sons wasn't a real thing.But Venezuela now is off of the.the naughty list of countries in Latin America that are facilitating the drug trade.But before we jump to that story or that headline, the one that you mentioned, Terrence,the bombs that are a couple of things. The bombs that are being sent as part of that packageare like some of the biggest, most destructive bomb to Israel, that we know what they're going to dowith. Right. Like I saw a couple of reports that said that like the U.S. didn't even use some of these bombswhen they were bombing Iran because of the blast radius
25:43and the high probability of high civilian casualties.But then I also saw another report that talked abouthow carbon emissions are down this year.Why? Because of what's going on, the Strait of Hormuzand what's going to happen and what's been happeningto Saudi oil fields as well.So, I mean, maybe that's a way forward toward what you want to see,Terence.
26:06I mean, I think that there are certain forces around the worldwho are working to bring that down carbon emissionswhile Trump is helping,and the U.S. Empire is spirally out of controland sparking fuel riots around the world.I think there's truth of what you're saying about the oil ferry thing.I think that they think, I don't know if they think this,but I think that it is kind of cope, perhaps.
26:31I think they think that you just go into Venezuela,you know, knock off the leader,take over the leader, the new leader,like a virus or some sort of you know what I mean like install implant your own uh technology inand all this and um that like you can just overnight start turning turning Venezuela back intolike a profitable oil field that like replaces the same volume of oil lost in the middle east andit's just like as Aaron I think pointed out recently like there's no world in which you could dothat on a quick enough timeline profitably that's just not how capital is.
27:08works. The bourgeoisie has kind of like become fantasist about their own mode of production.Like they don't even understand like what it even requires at this point. It's just that'syeah, that's so disconnected from the people that make the value. They forget that there'ssome steps in between that. They just they just know that it's always going to be there. Yeah.Yeah. And it's also their horizon right. Like you guys talked about this and I know Aaron talks aboutit. The their notion of temporality it's it's they're not they're not far cited. Right. Like they're at thispoint they're just balls to the wall who cares like we are going for short term massive extract andprofit as much as possible in the short term and damned whatever follows and that's really dangerous
27:50I mean I think and that's been a process we've seen probably in the last 20 30 years that has justaccelerated or it feels like it's accelerating now particularly when you're like Tom driving aroundseeing in real time changing gas changing gasoline prices 30 40 cents in the space of five secondsRight? Like, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's a, it just, I can't, it's just really hard for me to fathom how the bourgeoisie does not, is not willing to acknowledge that this short-term vision is going to lead to mass catastrophe. I think maybe that's why they have these escapist fantasies that, about AI, about consciousness transfer, about going to Mars or, you know, building bunkers in in New Zealand or, or, or,creating neoliberal floating cities,sea-steady in the Atlantic or Pacific,but it's not good.We talked about that.
28:49The greatest evaluation in human history on an IPOwas, you know, Musk's company, SpaceX.And like the whole pitch of it was,how can we fucking get off this rock?Or how can we get underneath it?You know what I'm saying?Like basically how can we terraform it in such a wayto be able to survive at a critical population mass
29:12without completely ending capitalismas a mode of production.Because what are we talking about here, man?If you are, if they're serious about this,if they're serious about like just pushing the fucking worldto the brink, that's what you're saying, Alex,like there's a certain level of profitabilitythat like if you scale it back far enough,
29:36you're not even talking about capitalism anymore.I mean, you could still have the sort of labor social relations, the laboring class,the relations between them and the capitalist class.But what I'm saying here is that if you scale it back far enough,you can't have a degree of growth that would even make it profitable to continue as a globalized mode of production.You're talking about something way more localized, way shrunk, way more shrunk down.Yeah, I don't.I don't know.
30:10That's the problem they're running into, right?That's the whole question with AI, right?So this week, all these like, what, six AI psychopaths came out and said, we really need to slow down on AI and we need the government to step in and kind of give us guardrails because AI is going to lead us to, which I think is bullshit, right?Like, there are people behind AI.Like, you, they're the ones fantasizing about mass extinction events.But honestly, what I think this is really about is that these,companies are not profitable.No, they're not.
30:41So, okay, what is the way out of this trap, right?This money pit that they just keep dumping money into that's not producing any sort of profit.Well, let's like talk about how we're going to eradicate humanity and the government has to one step in and save our companies,which is the only thing keeping these companies up afloat to begin with anyway, right?I mean, we already see what AI does.We've seen what they've been doing in Gaza for three years.That is an AI genocide, right?Like, we don't need to imagine that AI is going to turn against humans and eradicate them.
31:11This is more a problem of, like, declining rate of profit and like, oh, shit, we can't make this a profitable endeavor.Government, please come in and save us.And if you don't, AI is going to kill humanity.Yeah.Yeah, it's like they're putting, it's, yeah, they're, well, I'm not going to say what kind of standoff it is.But, you know, when I, you know, okay.Maybe facts.All right.
31:35This, this, this, this, this, this trill Mexican gives you permission to say the M word, Tom.Mexican stand now.It's, they've got a gun to our head basically saying, yeah, if we don't get it.Also too, but also part of it, I think.Damn it, I wish Aaron were here.We'd have M word and N word.Sorry, Tom, good.I just think it's like, part of it too is like maybe to give these companies a stay of execution.
32:02If they slow it down, that, you know, sort of, um, um,shortens the lag time to where we see this is or most people see this is all vapor anywayholding up the economy so it's kind of you know steady probably steadies the markets if we couldkind of slow down AI and all that kind of stuff too yeah so much of economic growth in the US youguys have talked about this is based on AI like what happens to US economic growth if you takeAI out of it it's a dire economic situation this is why it feels like it's being pushed on usright here at the university it's insane the way that themixed messages that we get from our university leadership talking about AI is the greatest thing ever.
32:39And then we have to find ways to incorporate it into our research and teaching.But then at the faculty level and the student level, it's like, this is what?What are you guys talking about?This is horrible.Yeah.This is not like actually helping learn.It's it's accomplishing the opposite.Probably every classroom built is pelted with the ugliest flyers you've ever seen.
32:57I don't know.I have to start every class like at the beginning of semester with like an anti-AI rant.I have to, right.We were talking about how like academic dishonesty is like very like, like the early odds version is like very quaint by comparison.Like, and they would say if you use Wikipedia, you can get expelled from school.Now that seems scholarly in fact, in fact, in.No, I have to go back to blue books.I don't know if you guys probably use blue books, right?
33:27I had to explain to my students what blue books are.They were really confused.But I'm like, I'm not, I'm tired of reading AI generated essays.I love writing.I love to teach about writing, but I don't want to read anymore.Obviously, AI generated assignments.So we're going back to Blue Books.Yeah.
33:45Did you see the thing?So you mentioned the AI news and this strange agreement among the AI CEOs,which we talked about on the Patreon on Monday.But something I saw that was very interesting.And part of my thesis or theory on the show on Monday was that like the anxiety over AI being a humanity extinction event or tool was, is I feel like a kind of repressed, sublimated anxiety about the climate crisis?And as if to really just drive that home or verify that, Jacob Coxon, that guy who quit anthropic to blowthe whistle on the fact that likeall these CEOs
34:37think that within 10 years AI willbring human extinction.I saw him making their roundsI think it was like yesterday the day before sayinglike well I always agreed with Trumpthat the climate crisis was overblown.It's like, wait,what the fuck?
34:52I like,but that's, that really kind of gets into it.That really, you know, I think thatTrump is a guy and I've seen him in the lastmonth and I said a second ago,wanted to get into his last month.But I have, and I don't know if this is verified or not, but this is my own theory,and I need to, like, actually check the numbers on this.
35:13But the numbers of times I've seen him say or heard him say in the last maybe threeto four weeks, everything's going to work out fine, has exponentially gone up.And that to me is an interesting indicator that, like, bro, like, you know, are you okay?like it's kind of desperateit's like Bessent doing thatyou knowbuyback ofof T-bills it's like it's a little
35:41it seems a little desperateand uh meanwhile they gotVance out on the trail begging forone more termbegging for just one more chanceit was just like oldsound like an old R&B songbaby baby one more chance
35:54sounds like he's in a matching suitit's staying outside windowbegging for pussyin the rainit's crazyman like also like then they then they also use like the specter of china right so like hearing you knowi'm like ted cruz i'd rather be killed by a mexican robot than a chinese robot or an american robot rightit's just so it's insane man certainly more dignity in that though yeah it's it's it's really
36:21the AI stuff is um i don't know the example that you just cited terens i mean it's just they'redabbing on us i think that's what it feels like yeah yeah wow somethingawful is happening, right? Like you said, like the, it's going to be all right. Like when you,you know, the Iranians have been saying this for a while, right? Like the Iranians six,since they restarted the war, they've been accused the United States, particularly Bessent,of using all sorts of financial manipulation and to offset what we are starting to see now. Andthey've, I think they're correct, right? I think they're, they've been proven correct, right?even like Ghalibov and other Iranian officials will,
37:04they've gotten really good at anticipating what Besson is going to do, right?And they do it on Twitter.So it's, yeah, no, this is, sorry, I'm becoming, I'm launching into the Dumerism.I'll stop.Well, no, this is relevant because the choices that the United States face is right now.I genuinely find it to be one of the most interesting historical, like sort of paradoxes or,entanglements that have ever been like drawn up genuinely it is kind of astonishingand totally self-created it totally which makes it funny which makes it kind of funny like
37:43totally avoidable too just yeah i kind of so here's another headline from the washington postgas prices are about to take a big jump analysts say with the worst still to come the um likewe've been saying this for months but like i don't know if people are athat like how bad this will get, especially in the next few weeks to months, because so muchof American industry has run on diesel. You need diesel. And we've already got pretty badinflation, right? And the diesel shortage is only going to make that worse. I mean, there was astory in the Financial Times that was equally pretty, like, shall we say, arrested.a little bit.
38:32It is a little concerning.The U.S. manufacturershit by fresh burstof supply chain cost inflation.The United States is now talkingabout an export ban on diesel,which would not make the situationany better.
38:51I guess they're trying to go for autarkyor something, but you can't.Price controls.Yeah.Let's do it.That's what I'm saying.Well, this is from the,Guys, what if I knew of a little system that might help string-line things along a little bit?
39:06We'll start with a little central planning.We can text this pretty quick.Yeah.We could set up cool command and control centers like the Chileans did under Allende, the Cybersyn stuff.Yeah, we could do this.That would be tight.That would be tight.It says here, one of the remaining options for the...
39:31the diesel oncoming diesel shortage would be an export ban on diesel, which would create chaosin global markets and not necessarily lower prices in U.S. as domestic refineries, they're alreadyrunning at capacity.Oh, so that's how we know that that's what they're going to do.Well, they're going to do it.Because that was the thing, what was Trump's thing like last week where he was like, we needto stop trading with any country we have a trade deficit with?Yes.
39:57What could you talk about?$190 billion trade deficit with Mexico.Therefore, we're going to stop trading with our biggest trading partner.I don't know, man.It is like, we deserve this.We deserve this.But it's still really painful to like to live it and watch it.And also very funny.
40:17I'm sorry.It's very funny.The thing, like, you know, I saw these.I saw, you know, there's all these like footage going around of 9-11, obviously.in thein the world trade centerand because it's onlineyou can't
40:34you kind of get sucked intothese conversationsthat are kind of likecompletely absurdbut like there were so manythere were so manytweets I saw that were likeI feel no empathy
40:43for these peopleyou know it's just likebecause of likeyou knowthe Palestinians have toexperience this every daytotally valid pointUnited States does a 9-11
40:52just about every houron the dotto countries around the worldbut it's also like this thing wherethere's this kind of aspect of 9-11that like people kind of like losein the context of everythingwhich is that like no one ever expected that to happen
41:09you know what I'm sayingand so you kind of likepeople are just like going to workand fucking you know just get like a planethrough their windowand what I'm trying to say here is that likeAmericans are so ill-equipped for what's cominglike they can't even
41:25conceptualize fuel riots, water shortages,inflation that is so high, you know, you're takingwill barrels of like $100 bills down to the fucking supermarketto get a loaf of bread. You know what I'm saying?Like it's like what's coming is like we're soill prepared for it because we've never experienced anything like that.And 9-11 was an early preview of that. Does that make sense?Well, we don't have the solution that the U.S. has always had for this,
41:54right, which was frontiers and free, quote unquote, free land.Yeah.Like where there is no, that's like the old historical form of the U.S.resolving its internal contradictions.There is no frontier.I mean, the AI guys do talk about pacing the frontier.So AI is a frontier, right?According to them.
42:12But there is no, how do you resolve this contradiction?Well, that's one of the ways that people have explained the rise of Trump, right?Like Trump is nowhere to go and the contradictions stay in the United States.and that leads to internal warfare in myriad ways.And now it's just getting even more intensified in this situation.I think you're right.Terence, like, I don't, there's.Also about the 9-11 thing, it's interesting to see how, like, very online people
42:38have been making fun of 9-11 for so many years.And then, like, not online people are discovering,or they discovered on the 25th anniversary that an entire segment of Americanshave been making fun of 9-11 online for a long time.And to see these two things come together is really,We've like 9-11 was the first, it's the first thing they got Kirkified, right?Like, if you think about it.Like, it just took a lot longer, whereas where that guy took less than a year.
43:04It took a couple days.When you start to see AI videos of Chalino Sanchez with the Charlie Kirk face, you know it's over.It's like, just like, come on, man.That is such a good point.9-11 was the first thing to get Kirkified.First, we got all the conspiracy theories, right?which like they're very, I mean, I like conspiracy theories.I think they reveal something broader about the culture in that particular moment in time.
43:29But then it definitely got Kirkified online and to see like people who are very solemn about9-11 and they have to like deal with these online young people talking shit about like some ofthe insane memes that I had students and friends sending me.Like if I show these like some of my neighbors, I'll like have a heart attack.Yeah.I was watching the U.S. Open and when Ben Shelton was playing in the semifinal, he got on thereAnd he said, yeah, I'm not going to lie, I was a little hard out here today,just thinking about all the families of 9-11.
43:58And I was like, brother, was it really that hard?I mean, I'm not trying to be insensitive about that, but like, you know,just the nature of things, the more time that elapses we try to find humor in it, you know.It's like man's pain.You'll never understand.I was really depressed about the human condition today while playing tennis.Yeah.We have our existentialist tennis player.
44:25Yeah.But what I'm just as a historian or an amateur historian,someone who has a bachelor's degree.We're all historians, man.Don't do that.Don't do the professionalization shit.That probably is a benefit to you.Uh-huh.
44:45Well, you would think.Knowing historians, I think it is.If I ever write a book, I want to put comma.a BA, you know, like,well, listen, like in Latin America and Mexico,you do have an official title for a BA.You're called Licenseado.So people are like, take that shit seriously.
45:03Man, that's, you should bring that here.I like that.Um,but, okay, but yes, as a historian, an actual one,um, not just one who plays one on a podcast,I'd find the, the, the,what would be the, even the term for this?this.
45:22The sort of existential dilemma, the political economic dilemma facing the United States at themoment to be a very fascinating one.I mean, let's just set aside the fact that for the past six months, all economic trendshave defied any kind of rationality or precedence, anything that we would even, you know,regard as normal.Let's just, you know, just keeping it within the confines of what we've talked about here.And I don't want to get like too wonky on this.because I'm not smart enough to get too wonky on this.
45:53But yesterday, the Federal Reserve raised interest rates, okay?The thinking is that this will help curb inflation.Trump hates this because, as you said earlier, Alex,this is just a, you know, the Trump administration is a massive raid on the American publicand really the global, the globe in general.And so for that to, you know, really get going, for it to really get firing,He personally wants interest rates as low as fucking possible.This kind of, this is putting a squeeze, though, on, I think, people, because I don't really think that the cause of inflation is too much easy credit.
46:35And I don't, there's tons of different theories on inflation.But if I had to guess, the fucking cause of inflation is probably the war, the fuel shortages, the supply chain issues that are still carried over.from COVID, it's not really an issue of like just too much easy money.I don't, it just doesn't seem.But it's putting a squeeze on American consumers because if they raise interest rates,once again, you're not going to be able to build any equity,but that's been already been foreclosed on.We've already fucking agreed on that.
47:10But I just, what is it?So it becomes this weird thing where like I'm reading Financial Times articles where peopleare like, hell yeah, Kevin Warsh, we're glad you're glad you're glad.you raised interest rates and I'm like,fuck, no, I'm not glad. I need, I needa loan. I would like to buy a house or someshit. You know what I'm saying? Like,I'd like to buy a new car. I don't know, but
47:30like, you know, people, it's just no onehas any real coherent wayto root for anything, I guess,with that, like,getting into some entanglementor quantum entanglement.I don't know, man.Strange. That was strange.
47:46But I think,I think economists,well,let's say a certain type of economists who would tend to be on our side.I think they were pretty clear that the initial inflation that happened during the pandemicwas an issue of supply chain and not because workers were getting it or having it too good.Right.Like the person I read on this kind of stuff is Tim Barker, who's a historian.
48:09He has a really good substack.People should check out his stuff.Because what of the, like I remember one of the articles he wrote a few years ago on the Fed inthe 1979, 1980, and raising interest rates, right?And how that contributed to the decimationof the American working class, but also had huge impactin the global South, right?Like it led to the biggest default in history in 1982
48:32in the Mexican case, right?And that allowed for the euphemism,one of my favorite euphemism, structural alignmentor realignment, which is like neoliberalization, right?So part of maybe one way to think about what's going onto the US is we're going through the most naked,corrupt form of neoliberalism.because what we're seeing under Trump is a massive
48:51reconstruction of wealth from the bottom to the top,which is, again, it's part of a longer processthat's been going on in the US since the 70s,but I feel like it's happened so brazenly and so quicklyand in our face under Trump.And we're witnessing, well, we're witnessing that consequences of that.Yeah.Other than just his weird idiosyncrasies, right?
49:12Like stuff that ideas that he developed in the 80sthat he cannot let go of, like interest rates,like tariffs,loves like.In his mind, he just replaced China with Japan.It's really weird, the kind of stuff that animates and obviously declining human being.In the last month, I have seen, and I don't know if y'all have seen this too, but in thelast month, I have seen a decided pivot, like a whole shift in thinking on the deficit, on the
49:45national debt.there is likeand you knowand I talked about thison a recent Patreon episodeand someone in the commentswas like this is never going to be an issuethe debt will never be an issue
49:54it is an issueif fucking global investorssuddenly wake up and decidethat the United Statesis not a safe investment anymoresuddenly that $40 trilliondebt becomes a fucking huge issuepolitically
50:06and I you knowthere's an op-ed in the New York Timesthis morning from one of Biden'seconomic advisorsabout the fourI've never been a budgetBut $40 trillion is too big to ignore.This is tied to inflation.
50:21What I'm trying to say here is that like if you're an American policymaker, you don'thave a ton of options left within the capitalist field of action to really dig yourselfout of this.So that's what I'm trying to, I'm just trying to track this.I'm trying to market bookmarked.No, and politically we know then what comes.Politically then we know what comes next.Oh, the bet the debt is out of control.
50:43Therefore, we need to like get rid of the last remaining.quote unquote entitlements that exist the United States.So we'll continue to give a billion dollars to military defense contractors.But Medicare, Medicaid, all this stuff that Republicans have been dreaming about getting rid of fordecades seems like a possibility under Trump.And they could use that debt and that deficit as justification for it, which is.This is why, you know, I said this recently, this is genuinely why they have RFK Jr.because you cannot destroy the welfare state at this point
51:19without destroying the healthcare industry.So much of it is propped up by welfare expenditurethat if you were to cut those,those entitlement programs and social spending,you basically wipe out one of the only fucking industriesthat you have any kind of steady employment and growth in.And so what do you do instead?If you can't fucking prop any of that up anymore,
51:43you start to pivot to these, like we've pointed out, before, on-demand services, concierge services,uh, or healthcare, uh, you know, the, all a card approach to health care, homeopathic even.Triage. What, what labs do you need most, actually?Humors. Yeah. Where can I get my humors analyzed?Yeah. They've, they've done those cuts, right? Like, we haven't seen yet the consequences of the one big,beautiful bill cuts to health care, right? Like, as I've mentioned on the show before, my piece ofshit brother-in-law is a congressman in Southern Arizona. And like, he keeps trying to run away fromthe fact that he voted for the big beautiful bill. That in his district, which is like part of Tucson
52:25and then the rest of eastern, southeastern Arizona, it's like $100 million in cuts just in thatdistrict alone for rural health care and hospitals. So what does that mean? You're going to have nohealth care, very little access to health care.We have closing down of rural hospitals.This is, and we haven't even really seen, like, we haven't seen or felt the impactthat, of that aspect of the one big, what it was, BBB, BBL.Yeah.I wish it was BBL, BBB, whatever it is called.
52:56Yeah.It's going to be catastrophic.Totally.And setting, you know, we even talked about this on a recent Patreon as well, which isthat like the Trump administration.also recently changed the structuring of like tax um like i don't know there's some program in placewhere states are able to like you know make certain taxes that they can then you know reinvest orreplace back towards the health care industry um and they've changed that formula as well so i i think
53:29it's going to be probably catastrophic um is there going to be a point though where like they can'tdraw any more blood out of that turnip and it's likeLike what they're getting and like the biggest slashes to Medicare, Medicaid and all this stuff is just like, you know, $5 and some belly link compared to what they gave Elon Musk yesterday or whatever.And I don't know when like that tipping point would necessarily hit.But I think like it's also connected to just how they pass the buck to people like on everything.Like COVID was not a problem of like, you know, people in charge and planning and getting out ahead of like.potential pandemics and all that kind of stuff.It was, you know, like the onus was on us not to kill grandma and grandpa and all that stuff.
54:15Stay in that.Personal preference to not kill grandma or grandpa.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Well, same thing with, or with like, climate change.You know what I mean?Like, you know, you got these people out here talking about ending leaf blowers when really,like, the, when they should, when the government should be giving them electric leaf blowing, right?Yeah, right.
54:32Exactly.Or, like, holding BP responsible.Yeah.You know, like the big...More structural analysis.Yeah, yeah.Yeah.And it's the same thing all the way down.
54:42It's like...My analysis is structural.God damn it.Sorry.Anyway, no, no, no.It's just like, it's just like, it's just vulgar to just be like, no, this is a problem of like people's consumption choices or their selfish habits or whatever.Or not nine dickheads like setting the tone for all that because they're getting money off of that.And then pointing the finger back at those people and said, no, you're selfish actually because you don't.
55:06driving Nissan Leaf or...I mean, U.S. Energy Secretary,Chris Wright, he said,Americans should drive less if they won't lower gas prices.She said that yesterday.A question of individual supply and demand.Not global.No, no.
55:25It's just on us individually, which is such a neoliberal thing, right?Like, it took a lot of years and decades and coercion and government policyto create a form of human subjectivity.in the United States that correlates with neoliberalism.In Chile, it took a horrific military dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet.The first 9-11, which I always tell people, oh, did you remember 9-9-11?Yes, 9-11, 1973.And they get mad at me when I say that, but whatever.
55:54Right.So, like, how do you create a personhood or an idea of an individual that correlates withthe capitalist logics and demands of neoliberalism, right?And this is what you guys have just been described, what Tom has beendescribing like you you the idea that health public health in the united states is actually notpublic at all it's just based on individual preference and whether you wear a mask or not or whetheryou do this or whether you it's like it's it it took a lot of work to create us in this way rightwe had to become cattle but we had to become insane cattle you know what i'm mad cow to say because
56:30because like something that i think is so fascinating is that during the great depressionThe FDR administration had to make some asks of the American, you know, populace.Like, okay, you're going to have to make some sacrifices.For this to actually work, for us to actually have some sort of like large, you know,public expenditure, large government welfare program, you're going to have to make some sacrificesfor the greater good.And it's funny because now Chris Wright saying the same, basically the same thing, but it's been neoliberal,It's like, don't you want to, like, you want to lower gas prices, don't you, piece of shit?
57:11Like, you're going to do it anyways.Or, like, Trump going to North Carolina and being like, this is one of the worst piece of shit states I've ever been in.And if you go elect that Republican, we're not going to give you any more federal relief money.And the entire audience goes, oh, it's just like, we're insane cattle.We are insane cattle.Or the, the $5,000 check promise.Yeah, yeah.It's so insulting.
57:36Oh, God.We're depressed and sane cattle.Oh, we do have some sort of, I'm telling you, dog.With too many antibiotics in us.Like that's, yeah, we definitely are.There's too much plastic in our bloodstream.I've been saying this for a while,but Americans have some sort of like repressed libidinal thing with animals at the moment.
57:55Like with RFK.Especially at the FBI.Well, I was going to say, like, I was going to bring that up.Like, there's.Cash got that dog in them.Can you talk about leaf blowers?No.I'm sorry.
58:04dog that was one of the wilder things i've seen like like you know you think like the guysthat just know every state's age of consent by heart is like you know creepy enough but him to saylike hey getting bistral with uh with an animal not disqualifying at the they were forced rightpeople who were forced to have that could then become it was insane like the thequestion and answering with john kennedy yeah insaneThat is just like...It was premised on the idea that...I can't do John.
58:40Basically forced into a situationwhere someone holds a gun to your headand you have to fuck a dog or something.Like that was the scenariothat Cash Patel can...That doesn't disqualify you from joining the FBI,according to Cash Patel.Does that...
58:53I forgot his rap name.K-A-dollar sign H something, something.Oh my God.I wish they didn't even go away.Well, he's at a weird week.It came out this week.it came out this week that he so understatedhe's at a weird week
59:10he like he like directed one of his underlings to go after thisaccount called like i love retards that likecash a retard and so helike that's what he spends his time doingoh i find retards that's what it was he spentuh he spends his he spends his time getting his employees to go after x accountsthey call him retarded.Dude.
59:37I want an assistant.I'm going to hire an assistant that does that.You guys should hire an assistant.Anyone talks shit about Trillillies online.You got a hatchet.Got it.Yeah.You have an online Anton Shiger going after people.
59:50Yeah.Anybody that supports leaf blowers.See, the thing, people bag on this show, they're like,oh, these guys are a bunch of Dumers.Look, you do 50 minutes of Dumer, 60 minutes of Dumeers.consumer content and then you get sofucked up about it that you eventually punchthrough to this other side where it's just
01:00:11kind of silly and fun, which is where we're at now.We're having fun.That's my pedagogical approach. Yeah, that works.It's called a pallet cleanser in the business.Ispeaking of two pallet cleansers,I wanted to talk a little bit aboutthe last week that Trump is
01:00:33had.I wanted to talk a little bit about the Joe Rogan turn on Trump.And I wanted to just mention in passing, no pun intended, the state of health and mindof one Senator Mitch McConnell, which is a bit an interesting political story saga thisweek as well.My man's was so gone.I think he accidentally voted for Democrats on one thing, and they had to literally like holdhis hand and force him to vote. No way.
01:01:06Do you see when he was getting asked, he justshot him the deuses?I don't know if he meant like, no, I'm out.Like I'm, this is it, I'm dying.Like the meme that just disappearsat that point?The people pulling thestrings in the pulley, like
01:01:22they hit the wrong button. That's whythey voted for Democrat.He looks so bad.I think he was dead and I thinkthey resuscitated him.I think the reports were trueand they just let him stay like brain dead for like an hour or twoand they're like no no we've got to get him back to it because he is like
01:01:41They gave him some experimental therapeutic thingWhere like he died and he was called cocaineThey called cocaineThey gave him the crazyIn every orifice of his body they put cocaineAnd that got him goingThat brought him back to lifeEverybody always called him the turtle
01:01:56But now he really does look like a turtleBut now he's a turtle just chewing on a cocoa leafI want to be that.I want to do that.Yeah.Well, you know, go ahead.He doesn't look good.He has a weird smile, right?
01:02:16Which is, that's why he looks high as fuck.Like, he's got that perpetual smile.But yeah, it's not good.I would not want to be.I mean, they're Diane Feinsteining him.But she didn't look as happy.She really looked gone.Like she's, you could do this in front of her.
01:02:31and she wasn't like blinking.He looks a little bit more high, more happy.He looks positively thrilled.Here's the thing about it.If you wouldn't give that man a driver's license,I don't think he should be voting on legislation.Well, he...Oh, no.
01:02:48Give him a driver's license only in Kentucky.Let him go wild in Kentucky.He wasn't voting.They were holding his hand and making his vote.No, this is what the senator would want.to put a bow on my statement from just a minute agoconservatives are pretty much out of any kind of capitalistany kind of actions within the capitalist field of action terrain
01:03:13that could like conceivably get them out of thiswe've not really talked about Democrats at all over the lastfucking two three months because what is there even say reallybut genuinely like there are no good options for Democrats eitherwithin this range of options,what I'm saying, right?If you've got a debt situation, for example,that the entire, you know,
01:03:36global financial system has decidedis not tenable any longer.A war that, you know,I don't know, maybe the political will is therefor Democrats to get out of it,but like they would need a massive diplomatic effortto patch together some sort of geopolitical situation,but that's going to run up against the reality of Israel
01:03:56and the genocide.So once again, not a whole lot of options for Democrats either.So I don't know what kind of insane distortions this is going to make,but we will all continue to become more insane cattle.Mad cows, yeah.But there's like in the Iranian case, they signed an MOU.Just follow the MOU.I mean, you have to be realistic, like, be connected to reality,
01:04:21acknowledge the situation on the ground in West Asia.And you have to follow the MOU that you signed.That's it.I mean, that's honestly the only way out.I didn't, the Democrats, I mean,apparently Hassan Piker's taken over the party,which is probably a good thing.Although I did see he gave an interview to Axios
01:04:41where he said the U.S. Empire was way worse in Al-Qaedaand you have people like near a Tandon freaking out about this.I'm like, again, talking about reality.That is objectively true in Hassan Piker's words,pound for pound in terms of like body count.it's no comparison.But again, because we have to treat Americans like infantilized mad cows,we have to continue with these fairy tales about American exceptionalism
01:05:06and how we are morally and civilizational superior to everyone else.And that's how we get people to vote for us in the midterms and in the presidential election,which is part of the reason why we're in this fucked up situation to begin with.Yeah.Well, you know, I,a big portion of the Republican base is turned on Trump.I don't know.I don't, you know, I did see one thing like this,
01:05:34Maria Elvira Salazar from Florida.Oh, yeah, one of my favorites.Broke with Trump over immigration.Bullshit, bullshit.That's a 15, Dave Weigel pointed out a 15 plus.He'll get her back with Cuba.You know, South Florida.Is she?
01:05:51Is she?South Florida, Cuba.Yeah, yeah.She's part of that trio of her,Carlos Jimenez and Mario Diazbo-Alar.Part of that,a mafia down there.I saw Joe Rogan say
01:06:05Trump supporters are fucking nuts, man.They're rabid.It does make me,it does make me wonder ifthere was like that whole vibe shift thinglike a year and a half ago.I think that like thethe whole cultural scene
01:06:20decided that likeokay, let's do this.Let's do this.This is cool.Like, we're not, we don't want to do Brat Summer.And now they're realizing that, like, they don't want to be lumped in with the insane cattle.And so they're trying to distance themselves around.I think that's also the case with Salazar.
01:06:36Like, they don't want to be lumped in with insane cattle.They're like, I'm not cattle.I'm not insane.But maybe I don't know.They're cooked.I mean, in terms of the midterm, I think they're cooked.They think they're cooked anyway.They're persuaded.
01:06:51They're cooked.if they got JD out there begging in the rain.Begging.I mean,really like no dignity.He's jodicey shit.Yeah.Yeah.
01:07:01Yeah.Yeah, the most whiny jodicy song,not like the cool, like,Macing jodicey song.Yeah.Desperate jodicy song.Yeah.Baby I made a mistake type jesus.
01:07:13Yeah.But then it's going to filter down.I mean,I think something you guys have talked about, right?like how the issue with data centers is like the one issue and that is across the politicalspectrum at the local level.It's been really interesting to see how that develops and the type of unwieldy coalitionsand alliances that are developing for municipal and state level politics and elections.
01:07:39I think that's also going to be have some interesting results in the midterms.But in the end, I'm still holding hope for a Portuguese carnation revolution styletype of, you know, change in the United States.But all those officers and generals that were purged by the infidel PXF will launch a coup d'etatsomeday.I think it's probably the only, go ahead, Tom.Oh, no, no, no, no.Well, I was going to present a bleak alternative, but we're on the, our palate cleanser shit.
01:08:15That's not bleak.No, no.Already pretty bleak.Yeah.Well, I was just going to say,You know, another thing that could be going on is, you know, you know the scene in Goodfellas where it's like, when you can't borrow another dollar, when you can't do this, you can't do that, what do you do?You light a match and you blow the joint.Yeah.
01:08:36Well, probably the worst possible time for them to announce they've got weapons in space.I saw that.Oh, no, no.Okay, no.Staying on your movie, Tom, what if we just see a rash of like social banditry and we have.have a lot of like theft of million dollar airplane shipments.And apparently Papp's blue ribbon trucks have been getting hit up on highway jacking.So hopefully we get a rash of social bandits, you know,
01:09:05bandits with a social consciousness that they can kind of help out.Just gangsterismo.Yeah, let's bring it back to that.Yeah.Totally.Totally.Trump wants to unite Ireland again.so Trump says he wants to United Ireland
01:09:22so that's it.He said he described it as it'd be a featherin everyone's cap.It's because like it's so obviousat this point like he can't solvea single global conflictand he's only made them all worseand that was the whole pitch.
01:09:40Remember the guy I sat next to on the planewho was like Trump's gonna bring world peaceand I was like, oh my Godyou actually believe this.But a lot of those Trump people thought thatAnd so it's like he himself thought it.It's why he's obsessed with the Nobel Peace Prize.But like seeing that he obviously can't solve a single global conflict and is only making
01:10:00them all worse, he's like, what's the one Ireland?He's like, everyone wants that, right?Well, not everybody.Yeah, we're two years past Star Trek's prediction of a United Ireland.So I hope I hope he makes it happen.That would be kind of funny though.That's like his one accomplishment.It's not even his accomplishment, but he's obviously going to take credit for it.
01:10:25Stop the troubles, folks.They're over there doing nasty things.Well, Alex, let's let you let you let you let you let's cut you loose, my friend.Thank you for joining us today to talk about the headlines and latest news.Anytime, my pleasure.It's always fun to chop it up with you guys.Anything you want to plug before we get you out of here?What I want to plug?
01:10:52Oh, so I joined a podcast.So I'm part of the Turbulence podcast.So if you guys want to, I got to get better this plugging shit.If you want more forum policy analysis and interviews, check out the Turbulus podcast with my collaborators, Dylan Saba and M. Sanisa.Other than that, I'm a proud owner of a Toyota truck based on what the answer a L are doing.I may have to trade it for a Toyota Hilix, Hylix.Dude, if they come to the U.S., I'd be all over there.Yeah, just in like as a form of solidarity.
01:11:25So totally stolen valor.Like I'm driving around in Toyota and I'm like, yeah, just like those freedom fighters over there.It's Toyota Thorn, but it's only for, you know, the Toyota models driven by, you know, rebel.Yeah.Yeah.So other than that, I won't use my leaf blower.so just out of respect for Terrence, I'm going to get rid of it.That's progress.
01:11:52Thanks again for having me.Yeah, there's progress, Terrence.Progress.Thank you.Don't ever say podcasting doesn't have some effect,even if it's marginal on the world.All right, well, please go check all that out.Go check out Turbulance.
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01:12:34It's over there.And you can pay for that.Oh, one more thing.Aaron and I did that episode on the sci-fi short story collection, Palestine, plus 100.we will eventually do one on another short story collection called Palestine minus one.So for our dear listeners, be on the lookout for that.Hell, yeah.Yeah, y'all did.
01:12:59That's so fun.I really like that episode they all did as well.Very good.That was great.Go check that out and be on the lookout for that as well.All right.Well, we'll see you next time.Thanks again, everybody.
01:13:11Peace.
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