Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast - Waveform VS Vergecast Trivia at WWDC

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

While we were at WWDC this week, we were able to get into the new Apple Podcasts studio and do a trivia episode with the Vergecast! They are caught completely off-guard by some of the crazy questions Ellis has prepared which results in more than a little chaos but a ton of fun. We'll be back on Friday with a full WWDC recap but in the meantime, we hope you enjoy this battle royale bonus episode of Waveform vs Vergecast! Links: Listen to Vergecast: https://bit.ly/vergecastwvfrm Shop the merch: https://shop.mkbhd.com Shop products mentioned: Apple MacBook M2 Air 15” at https://geni.us/V28KGOc Apple Watch Ultra at https://geni.us/JQO0 Twitters: Waveform: https://twitter.com/wvfrm Marques: https://twitter.com/mkbhd Andrew: https://twitter.com/andymanganelli David Imel: https://twitter.com/DurvidImel Adam: https://twitter.com/adamlukas17 Ellis: https://twitter.com/EllisRovin Nilay: https://twitter.com/reckless David Pierce: https://twitter.com/pierce Dan Seifert: https://twitter.com/dcseifert Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wvfrmpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@waveformpodcast Join the Discord: https://discord.gg/mkbhd Music by 20syl: https://bit.ly/2S53xlC Waveform is part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Rubble! Come on. Compared to beef burgers on McDonald's current menu at participating restaurants in Canada. All right, welcome. This is Verge and Waveform, trivia extravaganza. You probably might not know my name if you're under Vergecast feed. I am Adam Alina, the producer of Waveform. I'm Ellis Roven, the other producer of Waveform.

And we are going to pit the hosts of our two podcasts together today. How are you guys feeling? Terrified. It was good and now it two podcasts together today. How are you guys feeling? Terrified. It was good and now it's bad. They were only asking you guys. This idea was so much better five minutes ago. I feel great. This is great.

It's really sitting next to a hardened competitor. It's like your confidence really drops. I will say he is extremely competitive. He's been plotting for weeks on this. And we only found out about it like a week ago. But he knew somehow. And researching just various things. So if you've never listened to our trivia game before,

we do things in a pretty not unusual way. We're going to pose a question. You guys each have a whiteboard. Excuse me, let me backpedal a little bit. We have three categories of questions for you tonight. Each category, each team will select one contestant to answer all the questions in that category.

After you've figured out your answer, write it on your whiteboard, flip it around, say it aloud, and we'll award you points or not. How are we feeling? Ready to go? I'm ready. Let's do it. Alright, with that, let's kick off some trivia. Oh my god, trivia. Yeah, dude, let's kick off some trivia oh my god trivia yeah dude let's go

yeah all right all right the first category is were you paying attention were you paying attention questions about the minutiae of wwdc 2023 oh we're so sorry you make that sound you bet i would wait so just like details we need to pick our yeah we have to pick our fighters right yeah so you guys need to pick who do you want to answer this question i love the idea of this being david v david yeah let's do it we're allowed to confer were you paying attention over here all right they can't stop wait david were you paying attention i think so okay i was live blogging which means i was not like brain like water just everything came out into my fingers and immediately the problem is we were all live

it's hard wait andrew did you remember do you want to show i was capturing you being upset at the mac pro not coming i think i was paying attention but the hard thing is we don't know the other categories david i've heard a lot of excuses let's go let's go david be david who will be the best david all right first question oh god how does the new compass app show waypoint altitude to users write it down flip them how does the new why is he writing already what's going on over there i, I don't know if this is correct, but I have an idea. I don't understand. All right, I'm going to give you... Oh, you don't understand the question.

That sounds like a you problem. That's true. Hit me with it one more time. The new compass app on the watch now displays the altitude of your waypoints. How does it visually express that altitude to the user? I see. I like that, David. Five. I'm correct.

Three. Two. One. Let's flip. What you got? Pop-up bubbles. 3D space. Those are technically the same answer. I'll give it to you. We'll say correct. So you each get one for both of us? Correct both.

The answer we had bring down was the So you each get one for both of us? Correct both? That feels right. Good start. The answer we had bring down was the height of the stalk, but both of those seem to match. What? What does that even mean? It's one of those games. All right. Cool. Now I know what I want.

Yeah, all right. All right, all right, all right. Both settle down. Settle down. This is my game. This is my game. All right, let's go. All right.

All right. I feel like neither of us should have means. All right, let's go. All right. All right. I feel like neither of us should have gotten that, but I'll take it. What is this? What is this? Stop. Stop? Listen, listen. We're going to be great on a curve here.

All right, ready? Craig mentioned a new machine learning function coming to the home screen of iPadOS. What was it? Machine learning function coming to the home screen. I'm staring blankly at each other. There was a widget. I'm trying to communicate with my eyes. David, I think we paid the same amount of attention.

I missed the question. He's right. I also missed the question. So apparently I wasn't paying attention. Three. Oh. Two. Faster.

One. What are your answers? You got to write. You got to write. Okay. Let's see it, guys. Multiple timers. Multiple timers?

It's suggested apps in the spotlight search. Oh. Is that on the home screen? That might be an acceptable answer. Yes. The answer we were looking for was frame interpolation on live photos. Oh, never. Wait, that's the one where he was like,

Earth looks amazing at this scale, and he was holding an 11-inch iPad? How did they get that right then? Because I believe that is machine learning to do the smart stacks, unless it's not on the home screen. I would not. You do?

It's a swipe away, but we'll give it to you. Machine learning? Because I got it. Machine learning? I don't think that's machine learning. That's a Markov chain of best. So we'll take it back. Wait, did you take it back?

I told you to take it back. David's the one that took it back. I don't deserve that. I don't think so either. Thank you. This would be chaos. There's a weird third David team on the stage right now. Yeah, we should form our own team.

David's against each other. This is next question. Let should form our own team. David's against each other. Next question. Let's make our own team. What was the color of the first 15-inch MacBook Air that they showed in the presentation? The first one? The first one when they announced it. 15-inch.

And this, again, is the 15-inch MacBook Air. Yeah, the 15-inch. Dang. Five, four, three, two, one. Flip them and read, read boys what do you got i put black starlight i think it's starlight read them one at a time please black that's not even i know i said it like 20 times that is correct

finally the davids have been split apart again. Wow. This is bad. Black is a hardcore answer. There are four possible answers, and you picked a fifth. I would like to point out that there are zero Apple products named black. Yeah, space gray, midnight. Were you mouthing it to me? I was saying midnight. So you're saying the wrong answer. I was wrong, but at least it was an answer.

At least it was an answer in the circle i would have get anyway whatever it probably was starlight and then i was i don't know it doesn't matter it was they said it was right all right all right we gave you the smart stack point back i'm really not re-watching this two and a half hour keynote during wwdc 2023 what made craig exclaim we truly live in a world of wonders okay now wow dan dan's on it five yeah yeah four yeah they're paying attention that was our timer that was a good credit read multiple timers wave david yeah multiple times okay multiple timers wave wave dave okay um my pen is verged got it do you have that other pen yeah that's what

happened this is great that's the first one I've been confident about yeah with my feet if my shoes were off this would be easier you can just just saying you can just David you could just pick up the market David you don't David take off your shoes oh my my God. I didn't know your shirt had so many pratfalls. Sorry, audio listeners, we are passing a marker down. Okay, next question. If I used my toes, I would have been... In the intro where there is a man chasing the bubble, what were the final words that appeared on the screen? Oh, the bubble. Dream it.

Dream it. Chase it. Blank. What were those last words? I thought that was going to be multiple choice. Five, four, three, two, one.

Flip them and read. Wave, David. What do you got? This says, make it happen. Wow. I believed Marquez for that one. Yeah! Oh my god. That's a level of paying attention. Well, I just thought it was so funny that it stuck in the mind yeah we still have three uh are we looking for an easier question

or a harder question easier easier yeah okay easier the next point should be can you pick up a marker with your feet? My shoes were off. I have very opposable toes. Oh, my God. How many Pro Display XDRs can the new Mac Studio support? I've never seen Marques lean over faster in my entire life. Everyone on Twitter was asking, who is going to use this many XDRs

and I was like Studio Pro. Studio Pro. Pro Display XDRs please. Can the Mac Studio? Yes, the Mac Studio. That is correct. I'm pretty sure I'm still right. Five, four, three, two, one. I couldn't read. Wave David,

what do you got? Six. What is that number? Six. I said six. It was is that number? I said six. It was an eight. I also said six. Two correct answers from the Davids. Was it 10 million? Can we dock off like a quarter? That's the tiebreaker.

If we tie at the end, we lose for that six. We turned an eight into a six. Because the Mac Pro does eight. and we knew that when i draw with my hands my hands cramp up and some i just kind of oh my god you should draw with your feet that's a great that's a different show the score we should cut that that's the regular first cast five waveform three that's right all right we need to make more time yeah harder answer let's really think about this one. Was that the easy one or the hard one? Yeah.

Let's do two more. Okay. Next question. Oh, God. Apple added advanced metrics and features for two sports on the Apple Watch. Oh, yeah. What were they? They were their own slides.

What were they? You got it, right? Wait. Clarification? Yeah. Okay. Were they native apps or third-party apps native apps excellent question i misunderstood the question five four three two one flip them and read let's go verge

davis what do you got hiking and cycling okay Is hiking a sport? I don't know, but that's what they had in mind. If you do it hard enough. David, what'd you say? I had a different answer. I said cycling and hiking. Good one. This is the last question of this round and I'm going to hit you guys with a doozy.

David, I just want you to know I think we're both doing a really good job. What is going on here? That David's doing doing way better he's trying to trick you into getting this wrong you do sportsmanship at the end but is he doing real sportsmanship or just me up because he is already doing better than me what studio monitors were in the background of the opening shot of the opening cinematic of wwdc 23. what? I will accept a model number or a brand. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Wow. Wow.

Were you paying attention? Oh, yeah. I remember that one. Five, four, three, two, one. Flip them and read. Wave, David. What do you got? Are you writing right now?

Yeah. Okay. For you. David, I'm waiting for an answer. For right now? Yeah. Okay. For you. David, I'm waiting for an answer. For you, that's okay. Genelec. What? Oh, wait.

No, we changed our answer. It's too late. My answer is the ones Marquez has. Uh-huh. No. No. The correct answer was KRK rockets. Were they really?

They were. Wow. They looked exactly like that. Those are old. They can be noticed by their distinctive yellow circles. Right, right. Yellow circles. All right.

All right. I was hoping you would come through on this, Neal. I thought they meant displays. Can we have five rounds? Yes. In the interest of time, we're going to keep it rolling. All right. The second category for today's show is G Fuel Flavors.

That's right. We are going to read you a G Fuel flavor, and you have to tell me if it is a real flavor or if I made it up in my hotel room last night. I don't like that you're so conclusive about being ready for this. Dan, can you lie? We already have. Okay. I mean, I'll take the category.

I don't know what G Fuel is. How did you guys make those sounds? Did Ellis do that? It's amazing. At like 11 o'clock last night, he was just recording into his microphone and showing me what he's coming up with. Ellis, can we please get a definition of G Fuel

and can I have it used in a sentence, please? G Fuel, it's a powder that becomes a liquid or you either buy it as a liquid and it makes you game better. That's very generic. Can I have the language of origin, please? I unfortunately cannot enlighten you. It's New Jersey.

The first flavor of G Fuel we have today is blood, sweat, and tears. It is a cinnamon candy flavor. Oh, wait. We never picked a contestant for this. I take it back.

All right. Blood, sweat, and tears. Cinnamon candy flavor. Real or fake? Three, two, one. I trust Andrew entirely with this because I have no idea. I got this, but I don't like knowing that I got this. I hope I got it.

Does this group consume G Fuel? No. I like making fun of G Fuel, which is why I know more about it. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay. Yeah, I know. You got to know you're on it. No one look at my back.

I'm obsessed with it, ironically. Yeah, I got you. All right. Until it's not. Real or fake? Revealing. Fake. I'm going with real.

Wow. It is a real flavor. Andrew'm going with real. Wow. It is a real flavor. Andrew, what? Oh, no. Oh, my God. We're drinking. I think Andrew is tossing the segments. We don't know how much he likes G Fuel.

All right. Give me a research. What is this last category? Jesus. Thank you. The second flavor is Amnesty. Amnesty is a pina colada flavor that's fake

if it's real it should be fake that's a good way to think of g-fuel though that's true if you think it should be fake I think the entire concept of g-fuel if it's real should be fake 3, 2, 1 flip

I have real I'm going with fake am one. I have real. I'm going with fake. Amnesty is a fake flavor. That's like Kendall Jenner in the Pepsi app. It's very obvious that gamers do not drink pina coladas. That's a good point. That's a great context. They'd rather drink cinnamon candy versus a pina colada.

Wow, we're getting slayed. We've been giving Andrew a lot of crap and Dan's just over here getting all the answers. I just want to point that out. The next flavor is Brimstone. Brimstone is a cran raspberry flavor. That sounds real.

But Ellis is also really good. Write whatever. I should say that out. Three, two, one. Look at how he's holding his card on a plane. Flip him around. Andrew, you said. Why do we keep going?

Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. Oh, my God. We already lost this game. We have to have five rounds. Brimstone is exactly the sort of word that if you're targeting a teenage gamer, you use. I think so.

What was the flavor, though, again? You said fake. Brimstone was crayon raspberry. That sounds like too good of a flavor. No, that is perfectly targeted. Di think so. What was the flavor though again? You said fake. Grimstone was Crayon Raspberry. That sounds like too good of a flavor. That's Diablo 4. It sounds like something you hear in the Doom game. No, I agree with that completely. I think that I thought he was

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Type O is a passion fruit flavor. That's actually, this is the hardest one. Type O is a passion fruit flavor. Why? That's actually, this is the hardest one. This could go either way. I think that's fake. G Fuel passion fruit. I think that's fake.

I feel like I'm at this point, so I can blame you. Three, two, one. It's real. Flip. I'm going fake. Type O is a real flavor of G Fuel. I thought it was just too on brand. You can't tell this because I'm brown, but I'm like embarrassed.

Like I'm like blushing about this entire situation. All right. The final. Be like, we're winning. Why do we use this for one of the three segments? This is so much talking about G Fuel. The final flavor of G Fuel for this round is Bee Sting. Bee Sting is a fruity cereal with a dash of honey.

I think that's real. You know, like when you're watching an embarrassing TV show and you have to leave the room? I want out of this room so badly. Then that's going to have to be good. Is Bee Sting a real flavor? Flip them around. Going with fake. Fake.

Bee Sting is fake, but there is a flavor called scorpion sting. Wait, so why did you put that in right? He meant to do this. There you go. My bad. Guys, I got a point. Nice. Let's go.

I don't think that was bad anymore. I can't believe I ran that category. Great job, Danny. I never heard of G Fuel. Mark, have you heard? Maybe that was a well-disguised knowledge of G Fuel over here. We kind of have to have more rounds because otherwise we already won't. We didn't tell you this, but Dan starts raw G Fuel. I don't even mix it.

Just line the powder up. This next round is a favorite of ours here on Waveform Trivia. It is our audio round. Oh,via. It is our audio round. Oh, boy. It is our audio round. I love this shit. We are going to play you a famous sound, and you have to tell us its source. So as an example, if you heard...

Windows XP, baby. Exactly. I would not accept Windows, but I would accept Windows XP. You do not need to be as specific as Windows XP, baby. Exactly. I would not accept Windows, but I would accept Windows XP. You do not need to be as specific as Windows XP startup sound. Windows XP would be enough. Oh, just like a general. Platinum home. Exactly.

But if you had said Windows, that is not specific. I'm going to be. I'm going to. Startup sound in the Apple office. Home edition. Security. Security is coming. The SWAT team is here.

Right, right, right. Yeah. They're going to be coming a lot today. All right. All right. This is Marques versus Nilay. Yeah. Yeah SWAT team is here. They're going to be coming a lot today. Alright, this is Marques versus Nilay. Let's do it. The first sound

is... I'm going to try. David's very upset with me. Oh, I know this one. Oh yeah, it's easy. Yep. Flippin' Moretta. I'm not upset with you. You're upset with me? I'm not. I wrote Netflix to Doom. I need to write bigger is what I just learned. That is correct. I I wrote Netflix to Doom I need to write bigger is what I just learned that is correct

I also wrote Netflix I love it sick if I had gotten a perfect score then I'd be upset with you it's a slippery slope but I messed up a lot so

the media ones if we do like HBO also I would have random number generator would have done just as well the next sound is... Can I hear it again? Yes. He's writing, Eli.

Five, four, three, two, one. five four three two one this is such a shot in the dark some playstation startup sound which playstation ah yeah that's a wrong one never mind ps. That was the PS3. I cheated and it didn't matter. I don't get points for that. That's crazy. I was an Xbox guy at that time. Yeah, baby.

I had that. Taking me back. Taking me back. I'm pretty confident about that one. Let's flip them around. Marques, what do you got? I used Skype a lot back in the day. Skype.

Skype. Two correct answers from our audio wizard. I think Skype still looks the best, by the way. It's like the app? That's my feeling. Yeah. I haven't used it in years, so I don't actually know. Probably better than WebEx.

Let's move on to our next sound. Hard-shotted Apple inside the Apple building again. I'm just saying. on to our next sound hard shot at apple inside the apple building again i'm just saying the we we tested out a few apple sounds for this but we either found they were too obvious or it was be impossible i guess that's the beauty of apple sound design up next we have oh easy Oh, easy. I don't know, actually.

Dan is confident. I was joking. Can you play it again? Which one, though? Can you play it again? I'm just saying. Do you think the soundstage of that was high enough? I can see the animation when I hear it. I just don't remember if it...

You can? You had that? Five. No, I didn't. it. I just don't remember if it... You can? You had that? Five. No, I didn't. Four. Then how do you see it? Two. One. Flip them and read. I said the PS Vita. I said Dolby Atmos. That was the Xbox

Series X startup sound. Don't listen to me ever again. You said it so confidently. I thought it was Dolby Digital. I thought it was Dolby Digital. I i did too are we tied right now can we have five wait did you guys also think there was a height channel i heard some whisper about did that sound high enough no oh no i was like is the sound stage of the ps vita high enough to actually encapsulate that no i thought i meant the z channel of the never mind we're nerds all right up next that's exactly what i was saying oh oh can we hear it again i know that i know absolutely

i hate this damn that's it it's it's in my brain yeah five it's some game again brain yeah five it's some game again four three two okay I'm saying it any guesses yeah it can't be right I don't I wrote meta quest sorry it was a shot in the dark it kind of you like you're really pushing it I know I wrote MetaQuest. Sorry. It was a shot in the dark. It kind of was. Eli, you're really pushing it. I know. I wrote PS5 this time. I knew it was wrong. Unfortunately, that is the Hulu startup sound.

That is the sound when you load the Hulu app. I've never launched it in my life. I want to admit this to you. I know this because my wife is watching the Hillsong documentary on Hulu right now. And I've heard that sound a lot. And I thought to myself, this causes me pain. And then I immediately left to the ps5 No, because when I turn on my ps5 the Apple TV fights it

So it's like this is a sound here before something dumb happen when I turn on my LG TV the ps5 also boots up and then Fights a chromecast. Yeah Wait, what's the score right now for this category? Adam, what's our score? We lost. Verge cast 12. Yeah. Waveform 7. Yikes. Come on, boys.

You're making us look bad. The G Fuel category was really just a random number generator. I don't know. It was like a hamster picking stocks. That's basically what the G Fuel category was. No, we nailed the G Fuel category. I want to be clear. That hamster crushed it. We got one wrong.

Dan was... He's going to have a package of G Fuel waves. That hamster crushed it. We got one wrong. Dan was... He's going to have a package of G Fuel waiting. Don't go when he gets it. All right. This next one, we're going to throw it back just a few years. All right. Oh. A few years.

Yeah, throwbacks don't really... Just confidently say some... Throwbacks don't hit me. Is this... One more time. Play it again. There's a game console. That's all I know.

Let's go. Five, four, three, two, one and a half, one and three quarters. Something completely stupid. One. Flip him and read. Marques, what is that? one and a half one and three quarters something completely one flipperman reed uh marquez what is that my mark is crapping out but i said playstation 2 i'm sorry i wrote wii u yeah guys this is windows 98 unfortunately oh wow no one used windows 98 everyone skipped from 95 to 2000 when they went to the NT Corps. Come on. All hospitals everywhere disagree. Are you even a nurse?

I was in the hospital when I was 17 years old. I was barely alive. All right. We have six minutes left. Are you online yet? I just got burned for being old on top of not knowing Windows 98. We can do one more round within six minutes. Let's do it.

Hit it. One more category or you want to keep going through the audio? One more category. One more category. Oh yeah, I like that. I like that. We'll start with you guys and then we run down six questions. How far ahead are we?

Seven. Five points. We really should stop it here. You're still going to win. You're probably still going to win. How many G Fuel questions are left? Zero. But the next category is... Air Force One.

All questions about Craig Federighi. Oh, boy. All right. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. About things he did on stage? First question. interesting interesting okay about things to get on stage first question we all remember craig

craig's iconic slow-mo run from wwdc 2022 but what announcement was he running to okay the slow-mo transition he ran downstairs became a meme all over the place he was just running straight he was already in like a slow-mo transition oh was it was that the macbook here what it was five was a mistake four speed right three yeah two one yes marquez he was running down to m2 all right i've written ios question mark the correct answer was iPadOS that's what I said this counts it's the same thing it's not the same thing

if iOS question mark is not for PlayStation then you don't get credit for iOS iOS question mark kind of is iPadOS honestly I said PlayStation I was right and I whispered iPadOS into my microphone please whispered

we can all hear the same amounts. Well, clearly my boss did not hear me. You could have said iPadOS. The next question is... We need these points, man. G Fuel. No more G Fuel. We're done with G Fuel.

Why did we do that category? Craig started working with Steve Jobs at a company that was not Apple. That company was called what? Oh, Jesus. I was not alive yet. Stop burning me because I'm old. I was already 25 years old.

I had five jobs. I think it's this, right? Yeah. Right? I have no idea. Five, four, three, two, one. Never mind. David Pierce? that right i have no five four yeah i think we get three two answers two i don't what does that say one nevermind just david pierce i believe the company is called next that is correct and that is your 13th point as this is mine i also says good work way to go david way to go

david i was not yet alive david's tearing it up over here i was super alive bro here's a the internet i was living the dream with my next cube. Never heard of this company. All right, Ellis. We knew that. All right. Give me the G. It just rolled.

Craig Federighi once rickrolled the audience at WWDC. What Apple app was he showing off new features for when he did this? Oh, God. Better be Safari. What Apple app? Say it again. He once Rickrolled the audience at DubDub. Which Apple app was he showing off during the demo

when he did this? And this is an Apple first-party application. Craig is in his home just weeping right now at how little you guys pay attention. Rickrolled, like, fully, like, played this. Craig is in his home just weeping right now at how little you guys pay attention. Rick Rold. Rick Rold, like, fully, like, played this. He was playing the song. And it was 2014.

The song. It was dubbed up 2014? 2015. Thank you. 2015. That's probably when that came out. Yeah, it wasn't a year. Sure.

Five. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Four, three, two, and one. I don't like this at all. This feels too obvious. Andy? Put Apple Music. Sorry.

iMovie. The correct answer was Safari. I didn't know. I should have just said Safari. I'm so sorry. I said that and we erased it. Oops. Yeah, it was obvious.

All right. Here's a simpler one. That's what I was. This is too easy. I was on the G Fuel curve of sound. You're too plausible. We're at one minute. That's what I was going to say. This is too easy. I was on the G Fuel curve of sounding too plausible. We're at one minute. That's my turn again? We have one minute left.

We're going to blow through these. It's the next cube. At least six points, right? Can I make up the questions? I'm so sorry. Absolutely not. Just send it. For what it's worth, you're going to lose anyway, Marcus.

All right, cool. Two more questions in the Craig round. First question. All right, cool. Two more questions in the Craig round. First question. Craig almost always wears a shirt of a shade of what color? That's too easy.

You need to get that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need a good five-point question. That's true. A good five-point question. You know? I still think we'd lose. I believe you. I'm pretty sure I'm right.

No, we tie. Do you not immediately know? No. I mean, I did. Wow. Is it weird that I know that? I knew that too, actually. Is this weird?

Three. Am I weird? I don't know. No, I knew that too. One. It's definitely blue. Yeah, it's blue. Two correct answers.

For sure. Two points. Final answer. A lot of jeans on stage. That's great. Last one. Our last correct question is. I like that finally the question was what color was the shirt.

That was good. All right, David. Pay attention. You know what? Forget it. Eli, you got to pass it. I will. Save the game was what color was the shirt. That was good. You know what? I will save the game for you guys. I'm ending. I'm sorry, Craig. I'm ending the Craig round here.

We have time for one more question. Oh, my God. The question is, and this is a David V. David question, but all are welcome to chime in. What is the flagship Vox Media technology podcast? Do you want a serious answer? I don't know. What is the flagship Vox Media technology podcast? Go ahead. Do you want a serious answer? I don't know.

It's the weeds. Wait, it's just right what's on the back. Oh, yeah. It's the cutter. Three, two, one. Flip them and read. Verge form. The phrase you're looking for is the god

wow david threw you a bone i'm just gonna say you're both wrong for some reason and uh now those are our questions for this evening thanks in second place we have Waveform with nine points no first place in our

hearts come on now that was super fun flagship Fox Media technology podcast maybe Waveform podcast obviously our winners of trivia this evening Vergecast with 14 points give it up for G Fuel

well done Dan well played Verge cast with 14 points. Give it up for G Fuel. Well done Dan. Good job Dan. Well done Dan. Well done Dan. Well played. Well played. Dan did great job.

Dan did great job. Dan did great job. Dan did great job. You did better. You did better. Nilay Marquez, take us out. Oh. Yeah.

Rock and roll. Rock and roll. How do you guys end your show? Just Peter out. Thanks for what? Yeah No, that was super fun, thank you all for watching incredible we're gonna do more collabs in the future This is a really great time brimstone for life. Now you can say rock and roll. There you go. Oh, nice.