We're Out of Time - Can Yung Bans' LIFE STORY Inspire a NEW Generation
Episode Date: March 4, 2025Yung Bans opens up about his journey to success, mental health, and sobriety in this must-watch episode of the We're Out Of Time Podcast with Richard Taite, Hear how he overcame family and mental heal...th struggles to achieve his dreams.For all things Richard Taite, the We're Out Of Time podcast, and Carrara Treatment Wellness & Spa: https://linktr.ee/richardtaitehttps://www.1callplacement.org/For more on Yung Bans https://www.instagram.com/yungbansKey moments from this conversation with Yung Bans & Richard Taite. Intro 00:00How has sobriety changed Yung Bans for the positive? 00:58What goals is Yung Bans focused on personally and professionally? 04:19Why does Yung Bans not wear any ice? 07:35What area of personal growth is lacking for Yung Bans? 14:50Why does Yung Bans remain an independent artist? 15:10Why has financial literacy become a top focus for Yung Bans? 16:05What advice did past guest Jimmy Shin share that is important to understand? 25:19Yung Bans, and OD situation? 29:21What led to Yung Bans legal issues, and how did a judge change his lives trajectory? 40:20
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If you want to do music, if you want to do anything that you want to make a lot of money,
if you don't know what to do with it, it won't last long.
My father has been incarcerated my whole life.
You know, as a man growing in the world, you don't have that male role model to look up to and say,
hey, this is what a dad looks like.
Not having certain things, and growing up without it would teach you scarcity and teach you survival.
But then just having it handed to you, you might be ungrateful.
I just don't want to see these kids out of having their world control by appeal.
I don't want to see that destroy more lives.
Straight edge, no lean, nothing.
The level of consistency I had before this started,
I did that being sober.
So I made a name for myself being sober.
Young bands.
Yeah.
How you doing, man?
Doing good, man.
Thanks for coming.
So thanks for having.
Thanks for having.
You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene
that hasn't walked in smoking a joint.
Yeah.
the only one.
So.
And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no.
Yeah.
Why?
Probation can't smoke, so.
How long have you been on probation?
For like five years.
How much longer are you got?
Five more.
Five more to go.
Really?
Yeah.
And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now?
Nothing like nothing at all.
Maybe a drink here and there, you know, like the champagne.
But no, but no drugs at all.
No drugs.
Pills, powders, nothing.
No drugs, straight edge, no lean, nothing.
Wow.
Clear mind, you know what I'm saying?
It just, it's just better for you.
Like, you take that time away, like, you can be high and have a phase and get caught up in that cycle.
But then once you do the work to get off, because it is work, withdraw.
the mental things that it leave in your mind.
You know what I'm saying?
But after you make it past that,
you realize being sober
and just the natural energy
is way better.
You know what I'm saying?
The thoughts, like,
you're more clear.
Yeah, progress.
Right?
It's you're clear.
You're more motivated.
Right?
Because here's the thing.
When guys come on this show,
I never tell them not to drink or do drugs.
I don't.
I tell them to
buy their weed at a dispensary and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor
because...
Finn are our time, huh?
Yeah, that's right.
They're all dying.
That's exactly right.
And, you know, you know the culture, right?
It's all weed.
It's all booze.
It's all music.
It's all women.
It's like, it's right?
I mean, this is what it's about, right?
Most definitely.
Okay.
I mean, that's how it would.
have been if I was a kid right so yeah man thank you so much for saying that I really appreciate it
um got to be said so how do you feel uh now as opposed to uh being loaded all the time do you get more
done do you are you happier do you have a joy of living like what is it so personally i i get way
more done.
Like just
reality,
just being clear
ignoring my goals.
You get what I'm saying?
Like,
because you would get
successful
and let's say
you will lose sight
of what success
is and like
that you have to
maintain success
to truly be successful.
Like, and
it's a big delusion
just being a high
out of time
it creates a big delusion
so whatever you want
to run away from
whatever you don't want
to think about
it creates a space
inside of you to
not think about it.
You get what I'm saying?
When it's a lot of components to life and just reality and what's going on, you know.
Good.
Gillen, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you please?
Because this man just said the magic words.
You said goals.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Want to talk about your goals?
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Okay.
What are your goals?
So it's different types of goals.
I'll place like goals.
I want to hear them all.
I'll place like goals in like two categories.
So you got personal goals and then you've got like business goals like, you know, numbers and stuff like that.
But as far as personal goals go, I would say, you know, I don't know who houses is.
It might be your crib, whoever a crib this is.
You know what I'm saying?
Owning a place for me and my family.
So when it's all said and done, they always have somewhere to go.
So you pass down that.
You know what I'm saying?
They know my dad put it in work.
He worked hard for us to be able to always ask him where to be.
You know, they had them in good schools and just get in the life that I wasn't able to have because as black people, you know what I'm saying?
And African Americans and other people sometimes, even all ethnicities, you know what I'm saying?
Like you may not be put in a position where your family was able to tenure.
correctly because they so focused on surviving.
You get what I'm saying?
So then people blame their parents.
Oh, my mom wasn't able to be there for me in this way or that way,
but she had to go work three jobs just to make sure you even just had some food at home.
You know what I'm saying?
There's nobody to watch you.
You know what I'm saying?
So stuff like that, I want to be able to be there for my kids
and not have to be out working, ripping and running, doing this and doing that
just to barely make ends meet so where I can get them that proper.
love and passion and be passionate about what they're passionate about.
That's beautiful.
To know them, you know?
Do you know what I like best about it?
What?
Two things.
Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets.
One is personal and one is business.
And then you went to personal first before business.
And so you know what's important.
And then the first goal was for your family and not for you.
So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the shit out of you,
that was it.
Like, man, that was beautiful.
For sure.
Dude, I don't start crying like a little.
I'm not kidding.
It was that beautiful.
That way it got to be.
Yeah.
Give me another personal little.
to do what we're doing right now
to be able to spread awareness
and just do God's work.
So when you're working towards righteousness,
you know what I'm saying?
He'll be able to use his righteous soldiers
on a different level.
So I want God to see me
and be able to use me
to max potential
because he won't hold any good thing from me
once I reach that point.
You get what I'm saying?
But we deal with things like drug abuse.
We deal with things like these bad habits and vices.
It could be sex.
It could be drugs.
It could be just materialistic.
Oh, I like too close too much.
I like jewelry too much.
You know what I'm saying?
When it's more important things to do with your time and your earnings.
Yeah, you're not wearing any ice.
I really, just a little ring.
I got tired of it.
Like, I got a whole box of jury at home, you know what I'm saying?
But over time, it just like putting it on and taking it like, what am I?
You know what I'm not going nowhere specifically like a photo shoot, a video shoot, a show?
I don't need it.
it don't make me no different.
People are going to look at you different.
Like when you're wearing it, people, you bring that energy.
You got what I'm saying?
Like people look at you like, oh, it's something that guy or, you know?
Yeah.
No, it's better.
Listen, especially in times that we're living in now, right, with all this income disparity
where people have a ton and then other people have nothing.
okay you don't want to give anybody an excuse to uh try to take your life it takes some from yeah because
you know i mean you give it right tool yeah okay and so would i but you know they're having a bad day
and they might just do it and they don't want to have a conversation just want to move fast
bang and they're gone i mean over what over nothing some shit marked up 300 times the price that it
you know what i'm saying then it really is it's not even that really that price
It's just horrible.
So you think you weren't as worth 100,000, 300,000,
and really is 30,000, 50,000 at most.
And then you just lost your life over 50,000.
Lost your life because you were a dumb.
And you wore your shit out in a place where, you, you,
where it wasn't safe.
That's all.
So, so that's good.
Okay.
I mean, there's nothing.
better than giving back.
Okay, and thank you for coming, man,
because you're a big shot.
People love you.
They just lose it for you.
Yeah.
They do.
Dylan, didn't he do a music video
with somebody who's coming
in the next couple days?
Landon Cube.
Do you know Landon Cube?
Yeah, no, Landon.
Shout out Land.
Yeah.
So Landon's coming.
Next week, Dylan.
March.
Oh, March.
He's coming Monday.
It's the bro.
So that's cool.
I heard you guys did music together.
One of my biggest songs.
He's on my biggest song.
Oh, well then hold on.
Let's put that.
Let's go straight to the business goals.
Do you want to do another song we have?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Always down to work.
What?
Always down to work.
Yeah.
Let's work that out, Dylan.
Remind me.
Because I think that's good for both of them.
They're both star players.
Right?
I mean, who doesn't want, I mean, right?
Yeah.
And you guys go and you do that.
And because you're giving to each other, you both rise, right?
That's what happened with our song that we did.
But one thing I will say, the fans didn't really like it.
They loved it because the song got 100 million streams plus, right?
But his sound is just completely different than my sound.
So when my fans are listening to it, like, why did they put, like, Landing Cube on the song?
That is so bitching that they're completely different.
Do you think, Dylan?
Oh, I love that.
It was really like the label idea, but they thought that, what you thought,
uh-huh.
Let's like, let's make it a, you know what I'm saying?
Like he got that beach sound.
It's a song, like a beach kind of vibe, you know?
He that kind of artist.
Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool.
You guys are friends, right?
Yeah.
How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
It depends.
It depends on his process, you know?
It depends on the song.
Like, if it's something I'm working on, really.
like in depth and I'm fucking with it and I just want to take like take my time on it 45 minutes
to an hour.
If I didn't take your time on it, 45 minutes to an hour.
Yeah.
How about if you're just being lazy?
If I'm just having fun and freestyle, I can do this in 10 minutes, like or 20 minutes.
Really?
One take.
How much does it cost for four hours in the studio?
The engineer usually charge about let's say $30 an hour plus $3.
studio time. Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time.
If you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you and good for him because you're both started players and you haven't done this in a long time. And it's...
I haven't done what? You haven't did a song together for a long time. Yeah, it's true. Right? And when was it? What year was it? I don't know, maybe 18.
We did this on me, right?
So back to 18.
Five years ago.
Back to 18.
Yeah.
Right?
That's the Nend.
Land and cool.
Land and cool.
Right?
I think that's cool.
All right.
So let's get back to personal, okay?
So you've got a home for your family.
Okay, so that they always have a place to go, which is the most, it's not just beautiful.
It's heartbreaking.
Yeah.
Right?
Because I know where it's coming from.
So, what a beautiful soul, dude.
Your parents alive?
For sure.
And call your parents right when you get done with this.
They did so good with you.
All right.
Next, next personal goal.
Personal goal, next personal goal I would say,
so I want to be about mine, but.
Can we do health?
Health, oh, yeah, just stay healthy.
So I'm already pretty healthy.
but I do want to personally get more book knowledge.
I'm very knowledgeable through experience.
No, book knowledge.
But just knowledge about everything
so you can also pass down the intelligence,
you know what I'm saying?
Good.
So I'm going to recommend something for you
where you can literally listen to a book,
a large book, in 15 minutes,
and get all the key points out of it.
every single book you have.
Always good for you.
Summarize, I like it.
Yeah.
I don't do it as much as I should,
but there were periods in my life
where I did it every day for years.
Talked you a lot.
So there's nothing, listen,
there's nothing more important
than continuing to grow and learn nothing.
We're not going to be,
you're not the same guy today
that you're going to be in 20,
years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close,
right? You're close? No. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you're different.
You get mature and you and you get more right sized about everything and there are no real big
deals unless it has to do with your family or health or livelihood.
Right. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger.
Sure.
Right.
All right.
So we got your health.
Are you exercising it all?
A little bit.
Working out at all?
A little bit.
When I was just in Canada for a couple of months, I was working out.
I was bigger.
But then I got out and just got back chilling.
You know what I'm saying?
Like making music, hit the studio, play the game, work on music.
Okay.
So you got your health, right?
Mm-hmm.
You're getting right, right?
Passing down my assets.
So a lot of artists, you know,
They sell that music and we get blessed with a talent.
So you get blessed with a talent.
Like you make all this music and you go and you sell it to the label and you get 0.3%.
But not only do you get 0.3% when it recoups from the big advance you took.
You sold it to them.
So they own your masters.
So I just never sold my music.
You know what I'm saying?
I own my music.
So you want, what song do you want to play on the outro here?
We'll play one of your songs on the outro after the deal.
Let's play straight cash.
Straight cash?
Yeah.
They're being hard.
That's awesome.
So you want to pass down your assets and what you're saying is you held on to your music.
So any asset, so let's say it's music.
And then from music, let's say, I've started more businesses.
You know what I'm saying?
So I made more businesses.
We passed them down or whatever it may be,
It's a way for them to make money with an inner sleep.
And like I said, the knowledge.
You got what I'm saying?
Hold on.
Let me write this damn because I want to be able to give you something.
You got kids?
Yeah, three.
Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of them?
As a gift, tax free.
Yeah.
Are you doing it?
Yeah, I know that.
And then is where do you have the money?
See, that's what I was about saying this.
The accounts that you can stash the money in don't give you any interest unless you put them in the right accounts.
Right.
So I had a financial literacy class that we took a couple weeks ago and they were just telling us about the different accounts.
And about when your kids 21, they can have like, I don't know if it was a million or something close to that.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
From interest, from compound interest.
Right.
So I just want more as a personal goal personally, I want to be the first to do that.
You know what I'm saying?
I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time.
One of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate.
Okay, that's a must.
And they don't teach you in school.
We look into that camera and tell the people what class you took.
what it's called so that our viewers can go there.
No, I don't own it.
Okay, I don't even know anything about this.
Don't make this about me.
So next level boys program, shout out, Coach Davis.
You know, Capital One Credit Association came and gave us a financial literacy class.
Y'all need to take it and be financially literate.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Thank you for that.
dude, you know how many people you just talked?
It's plenty.
It's important.
And that's coming from me, somebody you may not think practices that.
But I'm telling you, like, I'm 25 now.
I've been doing this for 10 years and it's the most important.
If you want to do music, if you want to do anything that you want to make a lot of money,
if you don't know what to do with it, it won't last long.
So, tighten up.
Tighten up.
That's awesome.
They got to do.
All right.
So you got that handled.
You want to pass down your assets.
You have these personal things.
I love it.
You want to own a home.
You want to go to the business side of it now?
Yeah.
I mean, I just, can I just touch on the health real quick?
Yeah.
Okay.
Taking care of your health is about self-love.
Now, I'm still working on my self-love, hand to God.
Okay, I don't love myself the way I should.
I do not.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm the same way, bro, and that's something that we should talk about as well.
That goes into like the first personal goal as in a parent's love will lead you with those
issues, you get what I'm saying?
And you won't even know why?
Because you weren't taught.
At an early age, everything hits harder.
So if you're not taught at five years old, 10 years old, 12, 11, how to love yourself
and being love poured into you correctly, then you're going to grow up and you.
you're going to be 30, you're going to be 40.
Do you have parents that love me?
That loved you so much.
Yeah, yeah.
It gave you, it made you feel safe in the world and secure in the world and that you actually loved yourself?
Honestly, even though on a podcast, I probably never thought about this.
You know, I love myself so much, but I deal with those issues, you know what I'm saying?
Because, yeah, yeah, my mom loved me.
I have a great mom, a loving mom.
but my grandmother was abused as a child,
so she maybe didn't give my mom the right love.
It's not that she's not a loving person.
Like, the heart reflects that you're a loving person,
but you don't necessarily know what it looks like.
And my father has been incarcerated my whole life.
So still?
Yeah, he's still locked up.
So, you know, as a man growing in the world,
you don't have that male role model to look up to and say,
hey, this is what a dad looks like, you get what I'm saying.
And then you get around other men and boys,
It's like, oh, you can tell he got a dad
because he knows how to carry himself like his dad
or he talked like his dad.
We hold conversations like this is certain social
stigmas or barriers that they know how to move around
because they have a father, you know what I'm saying?
It can make you feel less than or, you know what I'm saying?
So my job is to make sure my sons,
I got to still learn this stuff.
I still got to learn as a man how to be a man,
but I learn through the streets.
I learned through trial and error.
I learned through getting, you know what I'm saying,
ridicule for certain things.
things until you realize, okay, no, I got to try to be different and make it work.
You get what I'm saying.
So I just feel like, like I said, that's what I want to pass down to my son.
It's like, how to be it, man, how to be.
You know what I'm saying?
And you know what's great about that?
It's a process, right?
How old are your kids?
I got two, four-year-olds and I got a seven-year-old.
That's fantastic.
So the way I look at it, because none of us are exactly where we, you know,
want to be, right? I don't care who you are. You want to be somewhere. You want to grow. You want to
thrive. You want to be better. Right. And the greatest part about that is you only have to be
one step ahead of your children. Right. So I don't know everything. And I still have to learn a lot of
stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter. Right. I mean, I have to, right?
You only need to be one step ahead of your children.
And I'm the same way.
I have so much more to learn.
But you know what?
My kids are getting smarter and they're rapidly catching up to me.
I mean, very quickly.
For sure.
But right now I got a little time.
So I always stay one step ahead of the kids.
And if they ever ask me something and I don't know.
Well, yeah.
And if I don't know,
say, you know what, guys, that's a great question.
Let me think about that.
And I'll get right back to you, okay?
And that's a good mindset to have.
You have to teach people like, tell you're never going to have it all figured out that day.
You should even want that day to come because life is an ongoing journey as long as you
living.
So unless you want to wake up and die tomorrow, you should always be excited for growth and
to learn new things and to expand on what you know.
You know what I'm saying?
He talked right to you.
They got to know that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it growth, bro.
Every day you become like, like, when I first got on to rapping and stuff
and I had reached my goals, you would have thought that that could have been like,
what I always wanted.
Like, it's what I always wanted.
I wanted to be a rapper or my shit.
This shit happened.
It became bigger than what I asked for.
Like, I might have set a goal.
I might have, I never touched 100,000.
I started, I got, let's say a million.
You know what I'm saying?
multiple times like damn you know what I'm saying so it's like you would think that'd be it all but
that's not you're never going to know what all it takes to know everything or be truly that person that
in person is just a growing thing like when I turn your age my goals might completely reset
you know what I'm saying that's something totally more different at the time you're my age you'll
have achieved all your goals and your last goal will be just to make certain that what you
Already did sticks.
We did sticks?
Yeah, like it sticks.
Like, okay, I got this much money.
I got all these millions and dollars in that count.
I got this career, but we hope it's staying.
Let's hurt the kids are smart enough to that point.
Or if they inherit a fortune, they don't blow it.
They're not out here acting crazy.
They don't die.
They don't get hooked on drugs.
That's what a lot of kids who have rich parents.
Or because not having certain things and growing up without it with
teach you scarcity and teach you survival, but then just having it handed to you, you might be
ungrateful.
You might, you can develop a completely different set of.
There's no resilience.
There's no grit.
And then they develop these problems, these mental problems, which makes them lead to just
drugs or this or that.
You know what I'm saying?
Living on the edge because you're searching.
This guy who's here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy.
His name is Jimmy Shen.
And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan.
He said,
One of my favorite quotes is,
hard times create strong people.
Strong people create good times.
Good times create weak people.
And the cycle goes all over again.
I mean, it says it all.
I'm a father.
We're fathers, right?
Which is why I assume you came on this thing
because you've got young children.
and you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue
because we're parents and we're scared to death.
Right.
I just want to make certain that I leave this place better than I found it, right?
Right.
And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone.
All right.
That's really important to me.
Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about.
And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my shit and my home and my car and, you know, whatever, right?
I already had that.
But, bro, you feel it whether you know it or not because you didn't walk in here all iced up.
You're a father.
So what happened was is intuitively you know that's important.
this isn't.
The children are important.
This isn't.
The woman I love, she's important.
This isn't.
Okay.
Now, it's easy for me to say, okay?
Because everyone's listening.
Oh, it's easy for you to say.
Right?
Okay, it is easy for me to say.
Okay, because I've done a lot of living
and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades.
Closer to three.
I mean, I do not leave the house.
That's why the office.
He's on the house.
She's next to the house.
Right?
Yeah.
I mean, people work all day long out of that.
This is an office and I just live upstairs.
That's how I do it.
Okay.
So I worked for that.
I earned that.
I made mistake after mistake after mistake,
got back up, dust myself off
and went and took the next right action
after the next right action after the next right action.
That's it.
You know, Coach Saban.
Do you know what Cook Saban is?
Nick Saban?
No, you don't watch college football.
Okay.
So Nick Saban is the best college football coach of all time.
It's not close.
It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else.
It's just not close.
You do the best.
And he said something that is old.
always stuck with me because I'm always saying reps, reps, reps, over, over, do it again, do it again.
He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right.
You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong. That's like a spiritual experience, right?
Yeah, sure. And that ain't about football, dude.
It's about everything in life. It's about everything.
See, that's even like music.
I go in the studio when I first started.
People wonder why I'm so good at me.
Like, bands, bro, you can make a song so quick.
How you can freestyle a whole song.
Because, bro, I've made, I started off not that good,
but I kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going.
And now it's like a muscle memory of me how to make music
to the point where I can't even think how to not make a good song.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, it's not that good of a song.
Like, bro, it's a great song.
I'm like, nah, I can go harder than this.
You got to always have room for improvement.
Well, that's right.
You know, it's funny.
You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this,
why I did this podcast, right?
And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness
and save kids.
And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it.
Listen, let's move on to the fentanyl thing.
Okay.
Have you ever tried fentanyl?
I don't know.
but unintentionally, I believe someone gave me a pill
with saying, no, at one point, how to feel?
Scariest day in my life, ever.
Like, I was, like, with a girl,
was going to get some food, you know, regular.
It's probably, like, I would say, like,
four or five years ago on my way to Keill's Kitchen.
There's a girl in the car, she got, like, a picey attitude.
Like, girl I used to talk to in high school,
so me ain't really close, but, you know what I'm saying?
Like everything just felt different.
Like I was like, she was talking to me.
I just wasn't listening.
You know what I'm saying?
She's like, why are you not listening?
Like she hopped out the car.
I was mad.
And really that was my cue to get her.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, why you tripping?
Like I just let her.
Okay, you know what I'm saying?
I got my son with me as it got more severe and more severe.
My bro went in and got the food.
I'm sitting in the car.
I'm spaced out.
I get home.
I get in the room with my son, my first born before I ever had three kids.
And then I'm just in the bed.
I stared at a wall for about eight hours, 10 hours, 12 hours.
I don't know, probably hours on top of hours.
And my kid, he just sat there and just eating the food with his hands.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I couldn't do nothing.
I couldn't move.
I was just stuck.
Like, I was stuck.
Like, my eyes was like bloodshot around, stuck staring at the wall.
And then I had to stand up the wall for so long.
Then the shortness of breath came.
So I couldn't, I had no oxygen.
I get up and I went into my bro room.
I was looking in the mirror and I was like, I'm about to die.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I thought I was going to die.
I was going to pass out.
And I was like, I went to my bro room.
I was about to pass out.
I was looking to my mirror.
I was like, just pray with me, bro.
I'm going to just grab his hands.
I was like, pray with me, bro.
Like, just pray me, brother.
Then I'm going to die, bro.
Like, you know, somebody gave me a fake pill, fake perk.
And this is before this shit even became big.
Like, perkinsis were kind of low key back then.
You know what I'm saying?
But somebody still gave me some fent on.
And she prayed for me, bro.
And the next day I woke up after it kind of like came down off it a little bit.
And, you know, I woke up and, you know, I'm a very strong-minded individual.
I always took pride in that I got a strong mind.
Like, you know, and then put my mind so I can do it.
And then I just woke up and I knew, man, a part of me is gone from that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a part of your mind that is so strong and like sharp.
can do things like that, think about it and go do it without the fog or the noise.
And now, and you had fog and noise after that.
It was, it wasn't even the fall.
It was something left.
So basically it created room for that, like, just me not in full control of my world.
So what you're saying, I want to get clear.
I want to understand this.
So what you're saying after that overdose, okay, because, you know, it wasn't,
It wasn't fatal, but it wasn't fatal.
But your current seven-year-old was two, two and a half during that period.
Does he have any recollection of that overdose?
I don't remember.
He went straight to sleep.
Like, he ate the pasta.
I got, he ate the pasta, and I looked over here to that.
And I was like, thank God.
He's just like, the poo all over his mouth and his hands and just knock out.
Thank God.
Thank God.
All right.
And the other ones are four, so they'd never even see me load.
it. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that?
A little bit, okay, because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about. Normally I would.
But the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world.
It's for anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially on
under like the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using...
Wooddraws and all that shit.
Yeah, I mean, and they held that life valuable.
That was like their medicine, you know.
Everything to them.
Everything.
And so, you know, that's a scary thing.
So you have to be in the right place.
The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed doing what I do for a
living to have a guy who got in trouble.
trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
Now, I ain't going to take five years rather than how long has it been?
Like a couple years, maybe like two.
Okay.
Hey, guess what?
What you're doing is beyond magnificent because you did all that stuff up until two years ago.
And the last two years, you've been on the straight narrow.
You've been perfect.
It was just weed.
And then when I went to jail recently, like, there's no more weed.
So then you take weed out because you got to rely on.
You're not even smoking weed.
No, not even weed.
And that's even better.
That's great because when I was just smoking weed, it's the same thing.
Addiction is the same no matter what drug you're using.
Because if you weren't addicted, you were realized, I don't even want this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Or you can just better yet, you can just say, uh, I'm not going to do this.
day and then you're like,
um,
four o'clock.
It's like,
you know,
it's like,
right?
And it's like you,
I always tell people
if you're having problems,
stop drinking for 30 days,
but they can't do it.
No,
because they were lying in for something,
you know what I'm saying?
And that shit
will control your fucking world.
I just don't want to see these kids
out of having their world
control by appeal.
I don't want to see that
you destroy more lives.
I got a relationship,
bro.
I got a girl, bro,
who I'm in a relationship right now,
bro,
Peel's so bad.
Who is?
The girl you're with right now?
Yeah.
Is she your baby mama?
No, no, no child with her.
It's just, I love her.
You know what I'm saying?
Old is she, she, she's 24.
Does she work?
Uh, no.
No.
What does she do all day?
She's like, do content, you know,
these girls are doing out there.
Okay, where?
Does she monetize it?
She's a model.
She's a model.
She's a model.
Does she get paid for money?
Yeah, she get paid?
Good amount.
And she gets paid for doing the content.
Yeah.
All right.
Good.
And then she is working.
She just works for herself.
Right?
She works for herself.
But I'm just saying not like a nine to five.
Like not a traditional job.
Who works nine to five anymore?
I don't know.
I don't even know if that I work.
Is that even a thing anyone?
No.
Not really.
The three-fourths of people it is.
But then in our world, we don't meet a lot of those people because they always have
at work.
Because we don't work jobs in there at work.
Right.
I don't know.
But yeah, she just like, she just, like, she just,
going through that, bro, and I just worried about her, bro.
I feel like she don't have to die.
All right, well, let's get back to her in a minute.
Do you want help for her?
Definitely.
Does she want help?
I was going to ask you, like, you know.
Really?
Yeah.
It'll be a huge favorite of me.
Really?
Yes.
Okay.
What's your name?
I don't want to, like, be, you know what I'm saying?
So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the podcast,
and I'll try to get her into treatment.
that has us him.
It would be amazing.
But you know what I'm saying?
If you put her in treatment,
I don't know if she can afford it.
It costs a lot of money.
We'll figure something out for her.
Don't worry about it.
Listen, if I can't help her,
I can find a place that will.
So don't worry about it.
I'll figure it out for you before you leave here.
Okay?
So the reason I want to talk about this
is because you're doing great.
You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for.
You went in, you got on probation.
Right.
Okay.
You haven't been in trouble in what?
How long?
Five years?
Yeah.
I haven't been in serious trouble.
I haven't caught a new felony.
Good.
So you're good for five years.
Okay.
Not five years.
It's been five years.
Yeah.
It's been five.
I made a career for myself.
Yeah.
I've been five years.
Okay.
So it's been five years.
two years sober
so not in trouble for five
sober for two
and you've got another five
okay
on probation
and I just think that's fantastic
and I think that's something
that you should be really really proud of
like extremely proud of
I am I'm very proud of myself
bro because my life changed
like I was just like
you gotta think like
where
the level of consistency I had before this started,
I did that being sober.
So I made a name for myself being sober.
You get all this money, you get all this fame,
get hard, you start losing friends,
everybody wants family,
and you think this is nothing
because of the way, like you said, the culture,
and then you pick up a Percocet,
or you pick up a lean cup,
and you're sipping a link, you know what I'm saying?
And you're not seeing like,
hmm, this shit is like, like,
changing me. You know what I'm saying? This is changing the way I deal with people. This is changing
the way that I react to problems. So then people will think you the brightest, coolest guy to be
around. Like everybody who loved being around. They're like, man, damn, bro. Like, bands gets mad at me,
bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he starts yelling at me. Like, I don't know if I want to be
around that. You get what I'm saying? And these are the people who help facilitate work for you.
So he says, it's not a good thing. Do you ever call them and make a repair and
I work with the same people.
They came back on board.
But I had a whole moment where I didn't do anything.
And it wasn't just because of no drugs or no shit like that.
I wasn't ever like fiend out.
Like, oh, I'm geeked up.
It's just literally like it's what it does.
Like everybody knows you sip lean consistently, you will become an asshole.
It's simple.
You know what I'm saying?
Lean makes you an asshole.
It makes you mad.
It makes you grumpy.
Like, so I'm grumpy.
You know what I'm saying?
And if I see somebody.
not working or doing something, I might call you.
And instead of me, like, talking, like, to my friend or a person who cares about me
and helps me, like, what they are, a person who cares about me.
Help me.
He talks to him, like, an employee or something.
And they're like, bro, like, you ain't never talked to me like this, bro.
Like, I don't know, you know.
And then you don't see nothing wrong with it because you're in the fog.
You're in the fog.
Why?
Why?
Get arrested.
Like conspiracy of a murder, you know, in Atlanta.
It's like conspiracy.
Right.
Let me just stop scaling everybody.
Okay, you didn't, it wasn't conspiracy to commit murder.
Somebody, somebody, somebody.
Somebody burglarized.
Somebody burglarized and died and allegedly, I was a part of the conspiracy.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, you didn't plan the, plan the burglary, did you?
No.
Did you plan in any way, shape, or?
Nothing.
I had nothing to do with this.
Right.
So, but you were with the boys.
Well, my friends, but who's to say they even did it?
Like, I'm not the one to say they did it.
You get what I'm saying?
It's just like, what?
ever like happened it happened right my point is though you weren't there right okay but you were with
the guys that they said was there and then you got kenyers probation right because the judge bless me she just
blessed me you know what I'm saying once again as I came back for not fulfilling my probation stipulations
like going to school and this restitution got ahead of me because like you you get away from it
you get out of the big situation in the house arrest and you just want to go away,
you know, so you think you can just run, run, run, run, it's not catching up to you.
It's not catching up to you. It caught up to me.
And you know what I'm saying? I almost went to jail five years.
What was the judge's name?
Judge Ingram.
Judge Ingram.
Yeah.
Where are she?
Fulton County, of course.
Flam Canyon, Georgia?
Yeah.
That woman is a blessing.
You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on.
your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year.
So they're line probation and you're the greatest woman alive.
Yeah, you're right.
I might do that.
Absolutely did.
Sure.
Great story tip.
And Judge Ingram, shout out of Judge Ingram, you know,
because I saw just the way on this, understand, like, how she thought about it.
She thought about it.
Like, she put her hand on her face and she was like, she thought about it.
she made a choice to give me a second chance.
And I'm working, I'm not perfect,
but I'm working so hard on myself.
And I'm here even doing this podcast right now
just to even spread awareness
to the things I said I would
when I read my letter up there on the state,
you know what I'm saying,
in the courtroom,
and asks for a second chance to be free,
and you gave me that chance.
And I won't let you down.
You know, I won't let anybody down, Miss Sington,
my lawyer, Ms. Coach Davis, Judge Ingram.
I'm so thankful and I just thank God for using everybody in that courtroom to propel me
because without these situations, I wouldn't be as strong as I am to be able to spread the message.
Well, life's tough enough, okay?
Right.
So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up right now.
Yeah.
Right?
Life brings its own baggage.
So you're never going to see the inside of a jail cell you.
Never.
Because you don't live that way.
And as long as you don't live in a way that,
is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go jail again.
And then we can get back to this.
These goals, okay?
Because that's what I want to do here.
And I want to knock these out real quick, okay?
You got your business goals and your personal goals.
Okay?
You said you wanted a business.
But before we get into that, what I want to know is,
how often are you making music?
So I make music like every day, every other day.
How often are you in the studio?
Every day, every other day.
And you're putting out music all the time?
I haven't put out a lot of music recently.
Why?
It was business.
It was just business.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I was signed to a label.
Okay.
And I just didn't like the label.
Like, I'm an independent artist.
I've always been independent on my music.
And I kind of contracted with these guys?
No, no, no.
So I just got out of that.
Okay.
And now I'm dropping it.
Yeah.
Okay, but you, I don't understand how the business
works so I apologize but you got like a little sunset clause like after the project come out like
you they want to use the project to make money off of it has like your primary last piece of work
got it and then you need to sleep again after that okay so how long do you have to wait till you drop
should I had like a year you have a year you have a year to wait so I just got out of it oh so now you're
ready to go yeah how much you got to drop right now I'm about hundreds hundreds of songs but I got a whole
project for the new music dropping next month like before I
got here, I just had a meeting with a team and we're just getting everything ready.
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys I come in here tell me,
I want a yacht, I want a jet, I want, you know, yada, yada, yada, I want a mansion, I want this.
And you're like, man, I want a home to put my family in.
I mean, you're so right-sized.
It's ridiculous.
You're showing up for work every day.
You do what I do.
We make music.
You know, you can get lucky, bro.
Like, all it takes is a song.
Labels come in.
They're like, yo, we'll give you a million dollar advance and a quarter million dollar
marketing budget, you know?
But it's about what you do with it.
It's financial literacy.
And it's about being able to keep it.
Because although, like, I have...
Stop.
Oh.
Say it again.
It's about, it's not about what you make.
It's about being able to keep it and knowing what to do with it.
You know,
I'm saying.
You've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul.
Most definitely.
You can't lose.
No, no, no.
You cannot lose.
It would be impossible for you to lose.
If you are making music every day and you drop that intentionally, okay, you, you
collab and do a couple tunes with, I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that
are big shots just like you.
What's our cat coming on Monday again?
Landed.
Landed?
Yeah.
Landing Cube.
I'd call him.
I'd call Dex.
I'd call Little Zan.
I'd call all of them.
And say, hey, let's meet me at the thing.
And let's knock this out.
You do one for them.
They'll do one for you.
And you're done.
And I go higher than that.
I call future.
I call the weekend.
I call like Rihanna.
You know what I'm saying?
Like those type of people who I do songs with.
at the level that I'm at.
Like, I'm at a level...
Then wait a minute.
Then ask them,
make yourself a wish list.
Just...
Yeah.
By put off till tomorrow,
what you can do today.
Make a wish list.
It's only yours.
Some people want to go on it?
Yeah, but shoot for the stars.
Travis.
This is a stream of consciousness exercise.
You're just writing.
This stud, that stud.
JZ, M&M,
Andre 3000,
run DMC.
What's important is
if you can come up
with these mashups,
right?
And you're back.
I'm back.
That's the day, right?
Okay.
And the story of the album is
you're with,
you're doing these
nothing but duos
or,
collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists.
Right?
And so it's like, I'm back with my friends.
That's a hard.
Isn't that hard?
Yeah, it's the hardest idea.
Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got.
That's it.
That's all I got.
Dude, I swear to God I'd try to be so hopeful, you know?
the listeners are probably like
again
you are right bro
moron
yeah
all right
so I want to touch on the
Sentinel thing real quick
okay and then we're gonna
every couple months
somebody dying
but really every day
people die from this shit
and it's getting so bad
to the point where people
were so addicted to pills
and they're so expensive
now
going I first pot to perk
I can get a whole bottle of RPs
with 300
it with like 60 pills in there.
You know what I'm saying?
That was like you buy one RP you paying $5 over the milligram.
Or for a perk 10, they date you.
They charge $25 for it.
They just go $15 more.
So.
And for the press perks, I heard they're two bucks.
All right, but they still won't probably charge something like $10 or $8 or something
like that, but that's more affordable.
And these kids would rather now if they know how to like not die from it,
they'll just take fentanyl and get some more high.
People are not looking for clean high no more.
They're not looking for the real thing no more.
They're just looking to feel different,
just to feel high to be fried, you know?
Why do you think that is?
Man, the world, what the world's come to, bro,
what they push on everybody, bro.
Everybody's soul isn't made to be.
Everybody's soul not made to be like,
oh, I'm on some cool shit.
I'm on some shoot everybody up.
I want some pop pill.
You know what I'm saying?
But they're doing it?
And it's making everybody confused, giving them confusion.
So these kids' parents will never be the same, never.
Right.
You've got to stop.
This is just to stop.
Think about it for a second, though.
Let's, you've got a seven-year-old and twin four-year-olds.
Can you imagine what, you can't even imagine if something happened to them?
No.
I mean, you'd be dead.
I'm probably like everything just turned gray, everything will turn dark.
I just thought about it like when you said it, like, how would my world change?
And it's just like right now I wouldn't really even be able to be here in the state of mind that I'm in.
And enough tragic, hard things have already happened to me in my life to the point where I don't know.
Like, you know, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes, five minutes.
And I wouldn't even be here.
Okay. It's, it is the most unnatural thing in the world for people to die before their kids.
It's for the kids to die before them.
Absolutely. It's just, it's not, that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And, you know, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing.
This is never going to, we are never going to have a commercial here.
I'm never going to, sponsor by, kiss my.
Yeah.
Okay.
No chance.
ever, okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know,
I got my buddy Jason who gives this little talk and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help,
call us, we'll take care of you. Okay. And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center. Okay.
Man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center.
I get any business from this podcast to come to Carrera.
You go to Carrera is $165,000 a month.
Nobody's go into Carrera off this podcast.
Okay?
The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help,
and they can either go to my affordable care center,
which doesn't have a lot of beds right now.
Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot.
I find every, we find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever feels like nowhere to go.
No, that they're not important because they didn't have the money because that's just not how I'm going to ever operate in the world.
Yeah.
Right.
So, I mean, this is just, just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me, okay, who knows this to talk to a guy like you who everybody loves.
and every kid.
Dude, my daughter's 15.
People in her school know who you are.
They knew who little Zan was.
They knew who famous Dex was.
They were like, whoa, you guys make a difference in every community
because everybody listens to your music.
The kids love it.
Right.
Yeah. How good is that?
Yeah. It's great.
That's so good. You help so many people here today.
For sure.
Now, we're going to end, okay, and then you and I are going to go help your old lady, okay?
I shall.
All right. So, where can people reach you, buddy?
Instagram, I'm young bands. I'm young bands on everything.
Y-U-N-G-B-A-N-S. I ain't nowhere to find me.
Oh, money.
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