Copy of Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 28th October 2026
00:00from the ZM Podcast Network.This is...Flethwin and Haley's Big Pod.Thanks to animates.Making happy happen for pets.ZM's Flethwin and Haley.Thank you very much, Susie.Welcome to the show.
00:16Nook nooks.Happy Thursday.It's great this short week, isn't it?I'm only doing them from now on.I don't think you've got an option.No, I'm just going to choose a day.Long weeks always...Short weeks always feel long.
00:29especially if the day off is Monday.Why?I reckon.Yeah, because you've got in your mind it's going to be a short week,but you've already had the holiday.Yeah.So it feels long.You're like, oh, short week, short week.
00:42This guy, probably working five days away.No, I'm anti.I'm a three day a week, guys.Oh, three.That's the problem.I bet if you went to four and got used to that,you'd be like, let's do three.I did a long weekend.
00:52Let's do a three.Let's work more productive.It's called unemployment.Today is the last chance for you to go in the droid to South America.Thanks to,of Tarm Airlines. So if you would like to go in thedraw, 8 o'clock, make sure you're listening. You've gotto identify what area in South America
01:05we're in. Where are we going today?To go in the drawer. Oh, don't. I won't say it.Oh,Oh, C-poppy, I was about to say.Make sure you're listening8 o'clock to go on the door because we'regoing to give that away tomorrow. Very exciting.If you want to go to this place, you might get some
01:23kisses, you know?You get some kisses, puppy.For baby.Yeah, I want your kisses.The top six is coming up.Yeah, top six are the foodsthat should be on planes. It's never occurredto me. You never get hot chips on a plane.
01:37God, imagine a little bucket of fries?You get like those, sometimes you getlike a little potato rosty or a littleBut it's not hot chips.No, you're right.They wouldn't be able to keep them hot, hot.Yeah, crispy.Well, they don't have...
01:49Or steaming hot.Steaming, yeah.It's a bit hard to have an oil fryer on a planewith turbulence.Turbulets, the oil's just like,ksh, ksh.Yeah, I'm more.hot chips in a plane.
01:59Chook a lid on the pot.Yeah. Air front. I mean, theypre-cook all the meals right inand they heat them up. Yeah, and then they just hate them.Yeah, there's no little kitchen in the sky, guys.And a little chef being like, I'll put it allinto this little plastic bowl.Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get that through there.
02:14I've got the top six other foods I'd like to see on planes.And I'm going to say them and people are going to be like,oh, there's already on a plane. Well, I'm not thatwell-traveled, so stick it up your ass.Sorry, that was angry.Gosh.Look, we were this time we asked, yeah, we're inbarley. We took you, remember we surprised you?
02:30Almost back. I think we might havebeen back. Are you sad again? Are you sad again?Well, I finally got rid of barley belly and I'm sad.Oh, the Fletchborn and Haley, big pod.Now, there's two cows living on an island called Snapper Islandin the middle of the National Park.I had a lovely bit of Snapper last night, actually.Jeez, money bags?
02:52No, I kind of. It went to the beer spot, and there's a fish and chip spot there.Oh, okay.Oh, okay.Lovely. Bear better snapper.Be a bit of snapper.It's delicious.Snap is only one of those things you get when someone goes fishing.Yeah, I know.
03:05In my world.Money bags.Well, this is a lovely looking island.Snapper Island.Is it nice?It just looks lovely.In far north Queensland.Now there's two cows, do Brahmin cattle.
03:15Those real ones...It's tiny.Yeah.It's in the middle of a national park.It is.Lots of chops around.So there's two cows living out there.Those brahman cattle, the one with the hump on the shoulder and the big
03:27I don't like those. No, they're too lumpy.They have a bell on them?You don't think cows should be lumpy?I don't think cows should be lumpy.I like my cow's lumpy.Controversial.That's a controversial opinion.I like a cow with a flat back.
03:39Flat back and then sort of aswoop up to the neck.Sort of a traditional jersey cow.Yeah, a milking cow.That's my favourite.Jersey or Frisian.I like these little humped ones. I always imagine them with a Dutchbell on. No, they look wrong.
03:50Sometimes I got a bit of a gobble-gobble under the neck too.Yeah, yeah.I know it's not a gobble-gobble because that's from the turkeys.There is a name for that.Okay.So the Brahmin cattle, they've been living on this island for a few months.Now, people have said, how did they get there?Like, it didn't swim?
04:06No.Did cows swim?Cows?I don't know.I don't think they're made to swim.I never thought horses could swim until I saw them swim.Yeah.You haven't got the feet for that.
04:15Because this island isn't, it's so tiny.It's like, it's one of those islands.It's three kilometers.It's three kilometers from the mouth of the Daintree River in far north Queensland.And they think that's how they got there.So they swam.They got, no.there was a flood in March.
04:28There was the Daintry got flooded, quite badly flooded,and they said, you know,they got carried there.The flood destroyed boats and car ferriesand houses too close to the river and everything.And they think the cows just got washed out there.They'd be stoked that they at least have a friend.There's two of them.
04:46There's two of them out there.So quite often, as humans will say to each other,if you were stranded on an island, who would you take?Who would you want to be there?What five things would you take?Well, there's two.They didn't get a choice.But I hope they're bonding.
04:57They got washed out.So imagine how scary it would have been.This woman called Jane, they were on a family day trip out to the island.And they're just relaxing, lovely island.And they start hearing crashing through the bush.Imagine how scary that would be.Yikes.They just heard the crashing out.
05:10Like some kind of Jurassic Park movie.The hell.And she turned around and up on the sort of like elevated part of it.A cow was watching her.She said that they had sad little eyes.Yeah.But they do, cows do have sad eyes.Yeah.
05:24Even when they're happy.Also, it doesn't.It's a tiny eye.said it's three kings from the mainland but it's a tiny just one of those tiny dot islandsthere's a bunch of them in queensland but it doesn't look like there'd be a lot ofgrass lovely beach thigh yeaha bit of you know sunbathing i think cows get spoiled for food right but they're like my dad'scows are very picky they'll eat around things but that's only because he's always given
05:49them the best stuff whereas my cows just kind of eat whatever is in front of them becausethey know if they don't they're going hungry well that's so i think these cowsyou know.So, where's there, I'm invested in this?Is there a rescue mission?We've had a message in saying cows can swim,but, Dedric, we're going to need more proof, more info.I reckon that, I'm going to, probably,
06:08that's going to be my algorithm for today.Animals that I didn't think could swim that can.Okay, cows can swim short routine distances of about 100 metresfor regular farm crossings and up to several milesor about five miles during extreme weather events.Because that'd be floaty, eh?I reckon a cow would be floating.Ah.
06:25because of all the stomachs.And the gas and the round.They possess natural buoyancydue to large lungs and body fat.Ouch.Yeah, shame, fat.Fat.Yeah, but they have been documented survivors
06:42include cows swimming and floatingup to five miles in the Atlantic Oceanduring Hurricane Dorian.I suppose swim or die, right?Listen to this.The Queensland Environmental Department's trying to find the ownersgetting the cows off the island won't be.easy. It would take a barge
06:57or someone who knows the cattle well enoughto lure them somewhere they can be loaded.But it is comforting to know at least they have each other.Yeah.Isn't that nice?It is nice to know they've got each other.Yeah. Not complete loneliness.Because it would be lonely otherwise.
07:12Well, you'd just be looking at birdsand other little things being like, you don't know what it's like to be a cow.Yeah.You know? So fat and humpy.And the cow's like, no one back in the herd's going to believe this.Yeah.Guys.You would believe where we're being.
07:25The Fletchborn and Haley, big pod.This is a bit depressing.There is a stat.This is some research out of the Los Angeles region of America.69% of Gen Zs say that adulthood has been lonelier than they expected.What were they expecting?A butt, like feeling part of something, I guess.So the average young adult feels lonely four days a week,
07:53even when they're around other people.So it's not just low.lonely in terms of isolation, lonely in terms of like, no one knows what's like to beman.They're more connected than any generation.But that's not connected.They're more connected online.Yeah.
08:08And that's probably the problem.Probably.The average Gen Zia has three close friends, according to these stats, and 43% have fewerthan that.You don't really need that, many.It's overwhelming.Your quality over quantity.Yeah, you'll start chopping those away when you're in 30s.
08:22Don't worry.One in six, only see.Wait, you looked at me.when you said that are you.Well, it's, you know, end of the year.We do a bit of a wrap-up.Who giveeth this year and who taketh?Okay, right.
08:33And then you get the snips, you know, get out of year.One in six, only see their close friends about twice a year.Yeah.Yeah.I mean, we get to see each other every morning.And that's a true honor, isn't it?A true, really true.Five days a week.
08:47Just love it.But my friends live far and wide.Yeah.And that's the thing when you get older, your friends move away.You might not see them.Exactly.that often.52%
08:56don't worrythe miserable statscontinue.52% struggle tomake new friendsand 71% of thosepeople want new ones.It is hard.
09:03We've talked about thisa bit.We have, yeah.73% of peoplethink it's easyto find their peoplein person than online.So I think they are
09:13connecting onlinebut it's not helpingthe loneliness feeling.It's the in-personthing that they're looking for more.Biggest barriersof getting outand connecting
09:24with people. Cost. Tired. Too tired. But those two are big. Like, it's so expensive to doanything now, let alone, like just living, let alone going out and, you know, spending money withfriends or going on dates or whatever it is. And then you have these huge lives, especially likeGen Zay, you're in your 20s now and you're out there living. You have these huge lives.You're like, oh, just pop home. You're like, I'm not going out. Yeah, it's nice here.The moment my tush hits the couch, it's a miracle. Yeah, but then you're all lonely andYeah, I know.It's a vicious cycle.
09:57Yeah, I know.I also wonder if this loneliness thing is also that they're not getting partneredin the same way that we kind of were, you know?And also it might be living at home as well.Living at home, struggling with dating.Gosh, yeah, seven and ten say that even when they want to socialise,they're just too tired.Too tired.
10:16I do not have the energy.I think we all relate to that.Sometimes.I always remember at drama school, you know,when you turn up to like movement class or somethingyou'd be like, oh, I'm tired.This is where you had to pretend to be a pancake in the ocean?I think this was the day where we had to pretend
10:33we were in the ocean and trying to get to the mountain.Right.I didn't get off the sand, by the way.You paid $35,000 for this course.38, sorry.You went, how did you start in the ocean?Did you go out the strain?This is actually how you get into, well, at the time.
10:50This is how you got into drama school.It was one of these things.You just start in the ocean and be moved away in the ocean.If you did that well enough, you were able to reach the sand.Then you're to crawl through the sand.Sort of an evolution of sorts.If you did that well enough, you were allowed to enter the forest.If you did that well enough, you were allowed to go through the forest towards the mountain.
11:12If you did that well enough, you were allowed to go up the mountain.We'll go on a bear hunt.Remember that game when you're okay?You can't go under it.Da-da-da-da.So you're just lying on the floor.Yeah.Did Tom Cruise do that?
11:25Yeah.Every actor, every successful actor.Did Tom Cruise have to do this?Yeah, at his drama school in America.Did Tom Cruise have to do this one day?How did Tom Cruise get into acting?Robert De Niro?He didn't even make it off the beach.
11:37Did he pretend to be a pancake in the ocean?And they said, you'll never make it.Yeah.Yeah.So the reason I'm talking about this is not to talk about how to get into drama school.Because I got in and I didn't even get off the beach.Is we were tired and we were revisiting this exercise.And we were like, oh, we're really.
11:53tired and our drama teacher was likedo you know what I bet if I told you right now thatthere was a great party with all of your mates and everyonewas there you'd find the bloody energy to go to the partyand I was like yeah I wouldyeah I would actually he's like so if you've got the energy for thatso you're saying you need to have a positivemindset you can have a positive mindset where you come
12:11home and you're like oh my god I'm too tired I can't go outget your ass off the couch go out and then you have a greattime and you might make some new friendssee I just fixed lonelinessPodcast Network.From the Fletch von and Haley group chat,this is the top six.Virgin Australia has unveiled
12:31Hot Ships.Ha ha ha.Excuse me, don't laugh at virgins.Actually, I take it back.I'm sorry.Good. Hot Ships has joined the Virgin AustraliaEconomy menu andeverybody's like, eh,
12:47bit soggy.Of course they will be. Yeah, because have they seendo they have ear fries or so?They insist that the cooking process has been tested and involved over many months to ensure they arrive to guests hot and crispy.How?They showed them being cooked in an aircraft oven in a special box with air holes on the top.So it's an air friar?Isn't it that it's cooking in the air?
13:09It'll be pre-cooked, right?Yeah, but they'll get a little kiss.A little kiss.Yeah, a little crispy kiss.But then they put everybody's meals in the trolley and then they wheel that out.So if you'll last- Oh, Rose 56 is getting steamed chips.You know?I feel like they're going to be soggy.
13:25Yeah, I reckon they're going to be...I'd try them for 12.12 Australian dollars.And it's not a lot, it's a bowl.Wait, what do you mean if you pay?Yeah, well, don't Virgin do that.Oh, it's just like domestic.Yeah, you're right.
13:38Yeah, yeah, yeah.Well, because we flew over Jet Star to Rarotong,and you know, you've got to, you just pay for food as in if you want it.Yeah.And we were like, oh, we'll get a couple of gin and tonics and some pringles and a...Oh, it adds up.It adds up.and a thing, well, maybe we'll have a toasting
13:54because we're going to land late. And then I was like, oh my God, I gotthe bill. Yeah.I think it had an eight in front of it.Wow, settled with an eight.For plain snacks.$800 on plane snacks.Oh, no, no, $18.$1,800 on my six.
14:07Yeah, I'm a big girl.Well, the whole vibe is you can't deep fry chipson a plane because there's no deep fryer.Yeah.Nightmare of turbulence.But Fletch was telling us, in business class, he has had hot chips.had an upgrade once, born yes, and there were hot chips.There were chips.
14:27Just trying to get in touch with the common man.Christopher Loxon over here wearing his $8,000 watch out there trying to rub shoulders with everything.Take the watch.It's fine that you own it.I reckon, yeah, I reckon put away the watch collection.Just put on an old Cassio, Chris.Hold on an old whatever.Yeah. But you've had them on a plane.
14:45Were they okay up there?Not really. Not really.A bit soggy.Yeah, he slapped the waitress.I did not.He was like, he did this.I clicked my fingers.And she came over and said, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Fletcher.
14:58How can I help you?He said these chips.It was actually on Singapore.You'd go to the accent because it was a Singaporean airline.Don't.Top six other foods.She was almost about to do it.I can see her wanting her.
15:10I'm feeling edgy today.His Singaporean accent.Tranking it.Top six other foods that should be on planes.Number six on the list, Bachelor's Handbag.How good would that be?Oh, I just rip open a chug.Imagine the stink
15:21Imagine a, the stink but the messAnd then they come around they're like rubbishAnd you're like yep and you're hotThe wet bagAnd juices, chicken juices dripping everywhereBut I got one the other dayAnd it was like, it had been discountedAnd I was like oh yeah it'll be alright
15:36Roy! Oh my GodShe drewYou know I was trying to rip off one of the breastsAnd I was like get a lotIt's like dust, chalky dustNumber five on the list of the top six foodsIt should be on planesThis is a combo meal of boiled eggs, beans, cabbage, broccoli and onions.
15:51Are you trying to stink the plane out?Yeah, dude.Imagine the butts.Imagine the butts like 30 minutes after dinner service.Burt.I reckon the air would be thick.Yes, it would have a ripple through the eye line.That's why you've really got to select your seat wisely.
16:07You don't want to be in the last row right by the toilets.No.But it's the old mate that don't even know that gas is escaping their loose old anus.You know, they can't even feel it anymore.They're loose old anus.That'll be you one day, Vaughn, don't laugh.I was going to say, wasn't that your nickname at the club?Loose old anus.
16:30It's Loa!Loa!What does Lola stand for?Loose old anus?Number four on the list of the top six other foodsthat should be served on planes.Fresh souffle.We'll just cross again two fletch in business class.
16:41Have you ever had a fresh souffle?No, I didn't even know what that is.It's the eggy, sweet eggy.You need the perfect oven to.Light cook on her.And if you ever peep through the oven, it goes,yeah, flop down.Flop down.
16:54Number three on the list of the top six other foods that should be served on.Run clubs here, guys, just letting you know, run clubs arrive.Is there a run club?At the cafe outside.Jesus, how do you, what is it?It's like a quad stacked on a quad.There's muscles on these people that don't even know exist.Like, I didn't know that muscles were there.
17:11I didn't even know.I didn't know.Of the knee had that.Much muscle.that he has.Anyway, so carry on that, fella.Number three on the list of the top six other foods that should be on planes,saucy ass ribs, big, dirty.
17:24With a little finger bowl.And then you're...His economy when you're in the middle seat, you've got your elbows pushed together.And your dipping bowls basically turned into a soup,so you've got to borrow your neighbour's dipping bowl?Yeah, yeah, I've made this one all saucy.Excuse me, can I get a fresh dipping bowl?Number two on the list of the top six other foods that should be on planes.
17:43Ice cream and a cone.Roll me one from the ice cream.Oh, there's ice cream?No, I know, but they're always in the tub, and it's rock hard.Yeah, I like that.It is rock hard ice cream.I want it rolled onto a cone so I can go...And then they ask if you want sprinkles or chocolate debt.
17:56Yum.That would be pretty boo-you had that in business class switch?Oh, God.All of run clubs arrived.And the dogs, and the dogs are here.Sorry, we get very distracted with Thursday run-clubs.Dogs, he means actual dogs.No one's running in their feet.
18:07Like, that guy's shoulders have four different shoulder rivets.Yeah, yeah, that's...The guy in the singlet with the grey.I think that's what happens when you go to the gym every day.I'm not commenting out on any female bodies.I won't objectify any of the female bodies.Yeah, we only objectify the men.Fletch, you go to the gym every day and I'm sorry.
18:26You literally go to the gym seven days a week.And they don't have that.You've got one bump.Yeah, I've got one bump.He's got about four.The grey guy.Look, boom, bum, bomb, boom.And then the bicep kind of comes on the side.
18:39And number one in the list of tactics are other foods that should be on planes.They totally knew we were talking about it.Yeah, yeah.Look away. Look away.Poor people just turn around and we're just like, we're being objectified.The top six other foods that should be on planes, number one on the list.A bread roll that doesn't suck.Have you ever had a good bread roll on a plane?
18:55Yes. No. What's the one? Singapore Airlines.Oh, shit. I was a business class.You were in business class. No, no, no, no, no, sorry.You never have a good bread roll on a plane.You never have a good bread roll on a plate.They do on Singapore, they do a bun, a garlic bread or a pretzel.Must be nice.You were next to me.
19:16You were behind me.In your own individual bed as well.We don't have kids.We're allowed to.Yeah, exactly.Exactly.But yes, the buns usually.Suck!
19:26Oh, you pull them open.And they've got no sugar or no salt.They're terrible.You need a pickaxe to open them.And the butt is as hard as a rock because it's been stored next to the ice cream.And then that tears the bun up.They just really wanted a nice little bun.And sometimes the bun looks good, but the bun always sucks.
19:42Apart from a business class.Asterix.Apart from a business class.Clause.Can't speak to it.That's today's top six.The Zadem Podcast Network.A study out of the UK has shown up to 29 minutes is the sweet spot for the morning commute before you go absolutely crazy.
20:00How long?29 minutes.About how long it takes me to get to work?God, you guys look far away.It takes me 22 minutes.Takes me six.I'm a bit faster.Oh, and I'm also closer.
20:11A little bit.Yeah, yeah, yeah.So apparently the breaking point, the absolute...But it should take you longer because you've got to go through a good stretch of 60 kilometers an hour.You bet it doesn't count it.Where is it 60?From my front door, it kicks off at a hundie.So those that had morning commutes of 45 minutes, that was the breaking point.
20:30When you start to lose that.Yeah, that you're far more likely to arrive at work feeling very stressed.Yeah.If it's 45 minutes, you're working an extra hour and a half a day.Yeah, totally.getting paid for it. That's insane. That was my thing. When I moved to Auckland, I livedsuper south, like out near Manari when I was working in town for John and Ben. The nicest guysin radio. And I used to sit in the car. And it was that my head would work out how much time
20:56was being wasted in my life in which I couldn't do anything else but sit here. And I feltso disrespected. It's why I public, if I had to, like where I live,coming in at this time of the day, fine. And going home, fine. We're lucky.to 9 to 5, I probably wouldn't live where I lived.Yes, I would 100% public transport.But then some people can't help where they live,and that's the thing. The jobs are...Exactly.
21:17Might be way out, and that's the...It's the poor tax as well.Yeah, it is. It is, yeah, for sure.It's just so...I was going to say mind-numbing, but if you're listening,I hope not.Well, that's the thing...That's what we're here for, guys.
21:30We're just...It's a lot of fun stuff happening on the show today.After 8 o'clock this morning, if you're still stuck in traffic,Okay, yeah.You'll probably want to end it all.If you're still, if you're in traffic now and in an hour, you're still in traffic.You guys have so many texts.Oh, of how long people's commutes.
21:47Yeah, let me go.Give us some.I lived in Mount Wellington and worked in Alice Lee.Ten minute commute, that's in Auckland.Yeah, I killed it.I moved up to Fungaparawa, one and a half to two hour commute a day.Couldn't handle it, change jobs.I'd rather shit in my hands and clap.
22:03Then go through that again.Yeah, they're going to build that bridge.I tried still.55 minutes to work and I absolutely hate it longer in the afternoon with that traffic.You see more people now, like, because we're driving early.You see more people now, like my best friend goes in at like seven.Yeah, I think I would do that.I'd do the same.
22:20So you can beat the traffic.If you have the flexibility at work, it'd be amazing.There's a shift worker in healthcare.She said it depends what time I'm working or which hospital site.My commute can be 15 minutes or two hours.I'd go for the 15 minute hospital.Oh my God, I drive from Pocanil.So on the Bombay Hills, South South Auckland,
22:39to Wairo Valley every morning.That's on the north shore of Auckland.So they literally go through like the worst traffic.The worst traffic in the country.And it's two hours.Wow.I love that.My commute from door to office, two and a half minutes.
22:56That's some good stuff.Well, as you were about to mention,Vaughd, after 8 o'clock this morning,we have Rosie Overcomer in studio.Now, she is, she's written a book,She was in Gloria Vale.You've got the...Haley's got the book.
23:08She's got the pre-ordered book.I started reading it.It's amazing.Like, what a fascinating world.Yeah.And if you're not part of it, all of us, right?We'll just want to have a little keep behind the curtain,and that's exactly what this book is.
23:21So Rosie's coming in.Oh, God, we've got so many questions.So many questions.She's in after 8 o'clock this morning.The ZM Podcast Network.Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.Now, do you know what I think we should do?there has been a little teaser for new music dropped overnight.
23:40I think we should play it and then discuss the artist.Okay.Have a listen.Amanda Baines.She said her in.All your money coming green,that is your money come in blue.What the hell was that, Haley?
23:59Amanda Bines.That's the tease.She posted that on Instagram.That's all she gave us.That's all she wrote.So that's Amanda Bynes, who we know from the Amanda show,from all that, Nickelodeon.The Amanda show was top-tier comedy.
24:17And I didn't think I was the target.She's the man, she was in hairspray,and then she went away for a little bit.And when she came back out, her mental state has been quite clear.She's not well.And people follow her on social media because she's so interesting.with her black eyebrows and her face tattooand her shaved head and the wigs and whatnot
24:39and she was in courtand music, yeah.We know she sings because she's been in musicalsshe sang a bit on Nickelodeonbut this didn't sound that group.Let's have another little listen.It's called Trapp House by the way.Trapp house.
24:56All your money come in greenwith those your money come in blue.They're on top forever.All your money come in green.But does your money come in blue?Been on top forever or something?Well, she's also on Ozenpic five days ago.There's a new story about how she said she's on Ozenpic.
25:17So it's called Trapp House.It's coming soon, apparently.No official release date.It's apparently a rage hip-hop subgenre with distorted kind of 80s vibes.Right.There's suspicion of a bit of auto-churn.suspicion of some sort of vocalyou know play there
25:37there is a video clipif you want to go see it that's on her social mediait's her doing sort of choreographmoves with lots of malebackup dancers and blonde hairand stuffa lot of people saying that the clip is a bit AI generatedbut right well
25:52I think it's good that she's getting out there againyou'll be pre-saving thatoh mate I've got alerts left right and centrehopefully it hits top 40 and we can play itPlay ZM's Flashforn and Haley.Well, the latest season of Bridgeton has just wrapped up filming.Production wrapped up.Last day on set was October 21.
26:11There's been a rap party.This is like a...We're going back in time, A, producer Carwin.We're going back to Mum when she was...No, she's shaking her head.Look, no.I dipped out of Bridgeton maybe after season two.When the, you Reggie Jean-Paul left.
26:28Reggie Jean-Pais.Yeah, how'd that go from?No, you're right.and wrong, they have announced that they're going to go backin time and follow the mum, butwhat they've just wrapped isFrancesca's, Francesca, yeah, yeah,who might be a little queer.
26:43Right.So they haven't said when, but it'llbe sometime 2027 for the Bridget in season five.That's not bad. News of another series.Well, just before we get to the big news, I wanted to saythe Hunger Games comes out nextmonth, mid-Novemberand Jennifer Lawrence
27:04has confirmed that Katniss Evidin is in it.She said it was surreal and beautifulto go back to the role.It's the prequel. It's the story ofHamich Abinathi and his Hunger Games.So close to her name, I have it.They're all so close. All the Hunger Games namesare so close to her. Catnus, you mean Catherine?
27:20Yeah. November 19with advanced screening startingon the 18th. Yeah. Yeah. Big fanscan be good. Again, I tapped out ofHunger Games like early on and then I saw the trainfor this. I was like, I'll watch that. It looks. This looks inside.The cast is brilliant.Stacked with newbies. Well, she's not a newbie.
27:38Her name is Melanie Linsky.From New Plymouth. My hometown, thank you.She is from Newfound. And there's still just the twinge of the Kiwi accent in there when she gets interviewed.She is going to play the mushroom killer, Erin Patterson.And an Australian-produced series been made by Paramount.That's such a great casting.So good.Because you can imagine her looking like.
27:57Yeah, getting like the hair and stuff and kind of be like.I didn't do it.So apparently it's going to be a six-part scripted drama series,titled at the moment The Mushroom Murders.Yep.And it's going to focus on the 97 days between the fatal lunch and her arrest.Okay.And so what?
28:14Someone will be hunting it.So we start with lunch.I think it starts with the lunch.What a great opening.And that will be if the screaming and the what's happening, what's happening.Because we already know.Yeah.I want a close-up shot like following a beef Wellington dripping, you know.
28:28Yeah.As being brought to the table.And we're like, we already know.We know, we know.Wow.They say, but they're also a little bit suspicious because she's like,cooked for them before and made it.So it'll be, what, an Australian production?
28:40A lot of Australian, have they announced any other cast members?Nah, that's all that's associated to it so far.She came out on stage, eh?It was like a, what are they called?Like, upfront type situation.She came out on stage and was like,I just want to make an announcement.And then the room was like, oh.
28:56Apparently there's been, like, since it started,there's been scripts hitting Australian production housesto like, let's make this, let's make this.So it might not be the only one that's made,but I mean, massive, massive name attached.And in a weird turn of events,she's playing this killer.And she and Peter Jackson's Heavenly Creatures,
29:1593 or 94, 99.A long, long time ago.She played Pauline Parker in Heavenly Creatures.Who died this week?Yeah.Yeah.I saw that.And because she moved away and changed it,
29:27after she got out of prison,her name. No, the other one changedher name. This, Pauline Parker moved tosome isolated Scottish island where there was a littletown down the road called Twot. That'sright. Vaughan, you saw it say that on theradio, actually. T-W-A-T-T-Tof Scottish. Wait, do you want to pop down to twat?
29:45God, twat!But why would you move to a small townwhere everyone knows you? No, no, no, she didn't. It was inScotland, it was on the other side of the thing and she just keptto herself really isolated that she's diedthis. Because her and KateWinslet's character.They never spoke again.
30:00Do you know that?What they mean?They'd never spoken again?Juliet Holm.Yeah, the two real murderers.Oh, they never...They weren't allowed.They were separated and weren't allowed to.
30:10That was part of their sentencing.Yeah, and then when they went off into their lives,they never tried.They never, they were just like...We did a bad thing.Because when...That announcement that Pauline Park had died,I was re-reading the story and you're like,
30:19it is full on to put a brick in a stocking eyeand bludging your mum to death.Like nine hits or something?Yeah, there was a few.God, that woman...Thinking back to that movie, the woman who took the bricks to the head, she sold it, man.Who was that actress?That's noise she made.
30:34Oh my God, she's amazing.I'm actually just going to add that to our list of...Retro movies to watch.Just under Armadais and Pretty Woman.Heavenly creatures.The Flet's one in Haley, Big Pot.Producer Shannon's unpredictable history.Well, it is...
30:58Producer Shannon's last day with us tomorrowbefore she becomes the night hostfrom 10.5pm till 2 a.m.Oh, have I got a shift change?No, 7pm.7 p.m. 7.Oh, yeah.Easy hours.
31:16Z.m. Late show. Go follow us on Instagram.KPIs. I've got my own way.Ding, dang.She's got her own. You're on your own now.Don't let your own now. Don't let your valve.KPI.Yeah. We can share.We are, we're going to, we're definitely.
31:28celebrate. We're definitely having a hack tomorrow. I hope you know.Oh, yeah. And no pressure, but make it a good one because it's your last.Yeah, and not because if it's bad, we'll cancel it, but because you're moving on to a differentjob and leaving us. Yeah. So your final unpredictable history, where are we heading today?We're going back to the 1800s and today we've got an all-star. You're going to recognize this name,Napoleon Bonaparte.Hey, Napoleon.Little guy?
31:54No, he wasn't a little guy, remember?No, he was of average height at the time.Yeah, very awkward guy.Very awkward.Very awkward.Very weird guy.Were you, really?Yes.
32:04Remember how Jason Schwartzman played him?Would he get a diagnosis in the modern time?What do you have?Yeah.This is him when he talks to you.Eyes down.Right.Right.
32:15It's like, go kill those, that army.Give me something.I'm hungry.Well, Napoleon was one of the most famous military generals.We're talking about the 1800s in 1807.He did some incredible work.he signed the...I mean, that completely depends on
32:30where you stand on history, you know?You know, he's notorious.Yeah.But in 1807, he signed the Treaty of Tilsit,which ended a war between France and Russia.So that was what I mean. Good work.No more war.For now.
32:45Yeah. Things happen in cycles.But to celebrate everyone being like,Napoleon, you're such a cool guy.Yeah.We're going to organise a rabbit hunt for you.So you can be a cool, big man, and do a hunt.That was just kind of howthey did things back then.
32:59Right.They don't do bottomless brunch.They went hunting.I love bottomless brunch.What year was this?1807.So what was like in 1807?I think you're about to ask
33:08what would a bottomless brunch be like in 1807.He expended it to mimosis.Yeah, yeah.I would have been called eggs bended itbecause the guy that's named after hadn't invented it yet.Oh, yeah.Because he wasn't alive yet.So what would we have had?
33:20Creamy eggs.Creamy eggs on a muffin.Yeah.I just scrambled because it'd be hard too to get a good poach on back in the day.Yeah, it would be.Okay, so guns in 1807 were dominated by flintlock mechanismsand single-shot muzzle loading designs.You know the ones that they'd shove it in and the gunpowder and pack it.
33:36Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.So rabbit hunting wasn't as easy as it was, it would be these days with, you know.A semi-automatic weapon.A 10-shot 22.Well, that's the thing.So they organised 3,000 rabbits to be bought in for Napoleon,to feel like a big, strong man and, you know, shoot them inherently.Sorry.
33:54It's like when your dad used to put a little fish on your hook, you know,and then be like, go on, Hales, reel it in, and you'd really be like,oh, and dad, dad put it there.Well, that's the thing, but it kind of backfired.So it's kind of teaching you to cheat in life.Yeah, or like gas-liding me into thinking I'm more skilled than I am,which gave me this arrogance which has led me here.Yeah, okay, great.
34:14Well, they organised these 3,000 rabbits,but what they didn't really think about was the fact that they organized 3,000domesticated rabbits.So Napoleon showed up, and these rabbits were like,oh, my goodness, it's our feeder, our human.3,000 rabbits swarm Napoleon,start climbing up his legs, starttrying to eat him.
34:323,000 rabbits.They say it's one of the greatestmilitary defeats for Napoleon.He got attacked by 3,000 rabbits.They had to hit him the rabbits down with the guns.They couldn't even shoot them because of this old-style gun.They were just like trying to bat the rabbits off,had to run back to a carriage,
34:49throw food at the rabbits to be like,go away, go away, leave us alone.And hono off in their carriage.He didn't even get a hunt.An amazing story.Yeah, this is a great one.So rabbits forced the retreat of Napoleon.Amazing.
35:02Literally he defeated Russia with the Treaty of Tulsaand then right after got defeated by3,000 domesticated rabbits.How did I haven't ever heard this?I don't know how I'd never heard this either.Was he nibbled?Was he left scourged by these 3,000?All the reports I could see was just that they did climb up his legs
35:21and they had to hand them down with the gunswith the actual physical gun.Not good for the ego.No.Not good.Do rabbits have claws?Yes, rabbits have claws.Yeah, if they can climb.
35:32Yeah, they've got claws and big buck teeth to gnaw on carrots.Imagine them gnawing on his shins.That wouldn't be cute.It'd be terrifying.It's pretty good history.I really enjoyed that.That's silly.You've ended on a strong note there.
35:44Familiar characters.Yep.3,000 bunny rabbits.They're eating Napoleon.If this was a hack, it would be five stars.It would be.It would be.Now get to work on tomorrow's final Shannon's hack place.
35:55Oh gosh.The Demandscast NetworkWe want to know now, is there somethingunusual that you're allergic to?Oh, 800,000, 966.Because you know, there's the usual peanuts.Peanuts, you know, top five.Top five. Egs is quite common as well.
36:13Latex?Yes.Gosh, imagine finding that out.Some people have to use, like, latex-free ponies.Yeah.Otherwise your vaginal wall, take a bit sizzling.So, Demi Lovato has been.hospitalized. I'm moving on from the sizzling.
36:29The sizzling, the sizzling fajita plate.So Demi Levato has been hospitalized and they've put it down to either passion fruit or sushi.Because she's commented.Surely she's had sushi before.She's saying, so I'm either allergic to sushi or passion fruit now.Man, passion fruit is yum.Yeah.She was on her Instagram story with an IV drip and I'm guessing they said to her, well, what have you eaten?
36:55in the last week while.Yeah.And it's passion fruit or sushi.Passion fruit.That would suck.I mean, surely, yeah, like you say...Pornstar martinis.That's got passion fruit at us.
37:05Does that?But quite often a syrup, would that be less...But then a...The fruit?Yeah.Top ten allergies.Ten, dust.Nine.
37:15Pets.Eight.Wheat.Seven.Soy.Six.Egg.Five milk.
37:20Four.Shelfish.Three tree nut.Two peanut.Two peanut.And one.Cats. Hay fever.Hay fever.
37:27Pets was number nine.Oh, okay.Hay fever.Hay fever is the most common allergy.I get hay fevery in summer,but not to the point that it's debilitating.You know those people are on the claritines.Yeah, constantly.
37:39Chopping up lines of claritine.Racking in the mark.Wrecking the clarees.I've got a slight apple allergy,but I still enjoy an apple.But no, I'm not allergic to anything weird.I will take slight allergies.I will accept slight allergies
37:51with a thrown and top it.Okay.The throat is.slightly closed.But not enough to stop.This is what we want to know. Text us.9-6-96.Already getting some texts in now.
38:02You can give us a call.0800-diles at M.Oh my God. Rice.Sorry.Right. Lots of messages.My husband's allergic to Jim Beam.I don't know.I think that might be a quantity issue.
38:14Yeah, yeah, yeah.Give us a call.0800 dials at M.What odd thing are you allergic to?After 8 this morning, joining us in studio.We've got so many questions.For our Rosanna Overcomer, whose book Beyond the Gates of Gloria Vale,what it takes to survive and what it costs to leave,
38:30it's all about her experience in and leaving Gloria Vail.You've only read the first few pages and you're like so hogged.Dude, it's so the meatiest start.And just like you're learning from straight away.Everyone knows this day of the week.The day that I start my story as Friday.That is unless you're from Gloria Vail,where the names of weekdays and months are considered to be pagan.
38:50So a birthday's Easter and Christmas.In Gloria Vail, Friday.as simply known as sixth day.Do they not have birthdays in Gloria Vail?No,oh my God,I love my birthday.Yeah, but you would grow up not loving it.
39:06Like, you just wouldn't be...There's a whole.Oh, that's the worst bit about Glory Vail.About every...Is it?I think, I reckon that depends who you ask.Yeah, well, she's in with us after Adam.We've got so many questions going to talk to her about the book
39:20and leaving Glory Vail.So, you're fascinating.Honestly, fascinating.Right now, though, we want to know what you're allergic to.That's maybe a little unusual.Yeah, because Demi Livano had a brief hospitalisation because she's either allergic now to sushi or passion fruit.Yeah.So many calls.
39:38Let's go to Sam.Sam, good morning.What are you allergic to?Morning.I'm allergic to grass.Oh, gosh.Oh, no.I'm so sorry to hear that.
39:48Field grass.And it's like doing a lot of the sports during primary school and growing up.Yeah, so what happens?Do you just get like a rat?I break out and make full-blown hires and everything.Oh, no.So if there's like an outdoor festival, you've just got to stand up.Well, yeah, I tend to stand up anyway and, you know, rave it out.
40:09Do you take a daily antihistamine?Because grass, I mean, we live in a very green grassy country.Bloody everywhere.I tend to, I'm always quite cold anyway, so I'm always we're in the covered legs and try not to be so exposed.and take the path where I can.She'd move to the Sahara.You'd move to like some concrete jungle.Yeah.
40:31I would love to, to be honest.It would be great.Yeah, I'd be a lot.I mean, yeah, God.Yeah, God.You can't just run through a field of grass joyfully.You can't frolic.You can't frolic in the grass.
40:42Especially not nude.I love to frolic nude through a field.Sam, thank you.And what is the unusual thing you're allergic to?Hey, blue cheese.Oh, okay.What is it about it?Geez.
40:53Oh, sorry, what was that?We said, we all, because we all said something at once.What is it about blue cheese?Well, it's a one-off thing, so I'm not trying it again because it wasn't a good response.But, anaphy dick shots.They got blotchy hands.Then, blotches appeared on my face.Edge, what about other cheese?
41:13No, no, no, everything's all good.What about a tasty plastic cheese?And you can frolic and grass.Well, that's been doing.What about a cheese down cheese slice, process?Well, you know, I try and avoid those ones.Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can...Oh, that's so crazy.
41:28It must be the way the moulds developed.You know, the blue...Perhaps, but it starts later in life.Like, people can develop.It does late, do me something...Later?Later on in life and you don't know until I have to be...I don't want to sound dramatic, but...
41:39I don't want to sound dramatic.I'll end at all if I become allergic to blue cheese.It's really good.It does sound like dramatic.It does say...Can I just say long time, listen to first-time call out?Oh, I love it.Have you?
41:52Thank you, Angie.Lovely to have you.Stay away from the blue cheese.We cannot lose another listener, Ang.We cannot.We're losing them rapidly to these allergies.What's that blue cheese?What's that blue cheese we really like?
42:04Castile.Oh, that's a good.Yeah, that's in the little blue cheese.And is it a half circle?Yeah, and sometimes you can get them a little wedge.That's slutty.That's good stuff.Sorry.
42:14There's a new thing.Slaughty cheese of the...Sophie, good morning.What's the weird thing?You're allergic to?Good morning.I'm actually a little.allergic to tap water.
42:23What?Okay, what about bottled water?So, yeah, so literally for ages, I could only drink bottled water.Now I can drink filtered.But, yeah, my brother goes in the shower and he comes out with wealth from being in theshower.Oh, so on your skin?Yeah, so he gets it on his skin, and if I drink it, it upsets my stomach.
42:45Oh, no.And so...What is he showering?I mean, you can drink filtered stuff in bottled water, but what is he showering?He just suffers.He just goes in it.Because they go away, like, within 20 minutes afterwards,but he just gets a bit itchy and wealthy for a while.
43:00Oh.I'd bathe in milk.Yeah, just have milk baths every night.You could shower under the filter,the, you know, the built-in filter on the fridge.It's a trickle, but you could make it work.Should it be cold.Or fill up one of those camping bags with filtered water.
43:17So both you and your brother, Sophie.Yeah.So I have it internally and hereis it externally, but the doctors think we're nuts.Yeah, I bet.Like doctors when they don't know what's wrong with you,you're imagining it.That's crazy.
43:32It sounds like a therapy thing.Medical mystery.Yeah, Sophie, thank you.So just while we've got you, Sophie, do you like blue cheese?No, hate it.Hate it.You might change because I was the same,and then later in life I really loved it.
43:45You just have one with like a little walnut or something.That's the blue cheese.Oh, it's Yolo.Oh, yeah, that's Danish.That's the Danish creamy blue.Now I, you know, I'll support local work.The Danes, no way.Danes do a lot, right?
43:56Dane's no.Creamy blues.Play Z-N.Fletch for them.We want to know the unusual things you're allergic to.Demilovato hospitalized.Maybe passion for it, maybe sushi.Yeah.
44:07Tofu, someone said.Come out in a wee itchy, spotty face after tofu.Somebody said, I'm allergic to an ant in Japan.It's called the Asian needle ant.One ant.I got one bite and went into an immediate ass.anaphylactic shock. And you're onlygoing to find out that when you're in Japan
44:24and you just sit down and what an ant goes onyou. Right. It's crazy. Regainedconsciousness in a hospital in Japan. Oh my God,that's terrifying. Jill, that was you.Hi, good morning. Hey,I'm long-time listener.Welcome. And a few of those are soallergy calls. So how did you find out that you're
44:40allergic to this ant? Are you just overseasand it bit you? Yes, Iwas on a school trip. I was with some studentsand I felt something bite my shoulder.I thought it was a bee sting. I'm an allergic toand five minutes later, I was unconscious.Is it a similar venom to bees, perhaps?Yes, well, I'm not allergic to bees at all,
45:00but something in the Asian Netherlands, that I am.So luckily, one of our students is alerted to beesand had an epipen on him.Jabbed you.He gave me that, and then, yeah.Oh, my God.That's crazy.And then the student got sung by a bee
45:15and didn't have the epipen, but it's okay.You felt bad.Wow.We could be called his mum in New Zealand and said,can we use it?No, she's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, go.Oh, my God, I've got to just use it.Yeah, yeah, yeah, give me that, you little trip.
45:28Oh, wow.And so will you be, uh, will you be venturing back to that part of the world?The Antills of Japan?Uh, yes, I have been back.I went back a few months ago, again on a school trip,but armed with four epipans just time.Wow.Come at me.
45:43Two from my time in Japan.Yeah.And we stayed out of that area of the, um, we're there.Wow.You're just like looking at the ground being like,You're one of them?You've got to get my eyes on these ants.Thank you, Jill.
45:54Tori, Tori, good morning.What's the unusual thing you're allergic to?Savaloos and Cheerios.Savaloys and Cheerios?What about the highly processed sausage is it?That you're allergic to.Well, we think it's the red food coloring,but I haven't really tested the cherry too much.
46:12Okay, okay.Does it make you a little bit?Yeah, itchy, welts and like all over,just rash.Wow.Does that happenfor otherlike processed foods
46:23with food coloring?No.It doesn't.Just, justsimilar than Cheerios.So going to a kids partyI can't have,you know.
46:30But it's finewhen they burst from the skin.Yeah.That's the best part.I know.And now you're talking themon purpose.So they explode.
46:38And now you can't have them ever.Well,I can risk it,but you know,and they really like the FEPN.Yeah.Could Chect, Tor,do you like blue cheese?
46:47Haven't tried it.They look weird.A lot of people are...Stinks.Silly little polar.Blue cheese, yes or no.It's a great...It's a divisive cheese.
46:56It's a divisive cheese.We have overlooked a homegrown blue cheese.The Kapiti are Kahurangi.Oh yeah.Lots of people messaging in that.That's a killer on blue.Add that to the list.I'm allergic to UV.
47:08I can spend short periods of time in the sun,but if I spend any more than 10 minutes in direct sunlight,I break out in hives on my chest and arms.But how do you like get all brown and...In a bottle, in a can.In a can.A vampire.My boss is allergic to alcohol.
47:23Oh, I had a friend who is allergic to alcohol.I know.Sneezing and coughing and going red and puffy.Or just have like one drink and they're like just,it's like they've been drinking all day.Yeah, my friends are same.I'm allergic to the contrast dye they use for scans.Oh, you get asked.
47:36Inject you and then you're supposed to stay perfectly still.The first time I sneezed 10,000 times.The second time I had, the sneezes and the hives.But that's also something like,are you allergic to the dye we're about to inject into your body?Well, I haven't had it before, so how would I know?Yeah, I know the first time I got it, they ask.I suppose you just have to be ready to go.
47:53I'm an allergy nurse specialist.Lots of people are allergic to shellfish,but what they don't know is snails have the same allergens.So all this trendy skincare with snail mousse.As an ingredient could leave you breaking out in hives.Oh, interesting.Interesting.I, quite a few people are messaging,
48:11and they've got the same skin allergy to water, shower.Yeah, the shower.And you think, apparently he can get special shower heads.I want a special showerhead.Well, one of those massaging ones.Yeah, yeah.Sometimes they're in hotels and they're like,diga, digger, digger, dig.
48:26No, one's got like a concentrated jet.No, I don't like a concentrated jet.Good for you.I think you two are talking about different usage for showerheads personally.No, you could buy them.There's like a little attachments.Yeah.Wild secrets.
48:40What are you what you want to do with that?It's not what he's thinking of.Oh, Hayley.What?I'm just saying we're all getting custom shower heads.No, I'd actually like a filtered onebecause I've got the driest skinAnd apparently New Zealand's got quite hard water
48:53RightRight. Is that why a shower glass goes all yuck?Yeah, yeah, how we're aliming in New Zealand.Somebody else had a trip to a hospital in JapanHad a full anaphylactic reaction to sober flourWhile making noodles on a school trip in JapanAmbulance Hospital, the full MontyAll in front of the students.
49:11It's these teachers.The wrong teachers that Japan.Terrifying way to discover your allergic to.to something overseas when you're kind of in chargeof a lot of young people.Yeah. My mum still thinks I'm allergic to anchoviesfrom when I went to a party when I was 16.Spoiler, I was vomiting because of
49:27I drank too much. It had nothing to do with the anchovies.Oh.I'm now in my 50s. I might take the secret to the grave.Yeah, do. Now we're doing a Caesar salad, but don't worry.We're keeping out the anchovies for Sarahbecause she's allergic. So allergic.Good for your gut health at anchovies.Really good. Really good for fatty, got good fatty fish or
49:46It was really good for the brain.I actually need to get onto some more fatty fishersbecause my short-term memory is shocking and sand.Expensive but worth it, but hard to cook.No, it's not, mate.What do you do?Farsle it up.Yeah.
49:59Put in the air fryer.How long?Eight minutes.The ZM Podcast Network.Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley.I have in my hot little hands a book that is out now.It's called Beyond the Gates of Gloria Vale.I know.
50:13Instantly, everyone's like,Tell me more written by Rosanna, Overcoma or Rosie, as we like to call her, who's in studio.Good morning.Good morning.You seem nervous.Just a little.Don't be, don't be, don't be.Now, do you get that response all the time, the moment that the word Gloria Vail is mentioned
50:29and the fact that you were there, raised there, that people go, and immediately intrigued?Usually, yeah.Yeah.And are you happy to talk about it, obviously?You wrote a book?Yeah, I'm happy to talk about it.And most of the time I'm happy.The last name Overcomers very, like, glory of veil, isn't it?
50:53Because all of the names, like, I remember the TV show was all, like, hopeful and praise and all of that.What's, did you think about, like, changing the last name or?Yes.Like, to distance yourself from it, or?We thought about changing it mostly, I guess, to decide whether, you know, who we were and where we fit in this world.if we went with the name that we would have if we weren't in Gloria Vail.Now, that would be Boersboom.Boersboom?
51:22That's a good.Rosie Boersboom?That's a Marvel superhero.Six kids as well, right?Six.Six.Okay, so for context, because you're saying we,you were partnered with our husband, Elijah, in Gloria Vail, right?
51:39That you guys kind of from the get-go before leaving,which you have, obviously,did things a little differentlystraight out the gate?Yeah.So he, you actually like him.I do like him.It's a good thing, just as well.
51:57It's a little bit more about Elijah.Like you're obviously partnered togetherby the Glory of our community.And then how was it different?I think, well, Elijah's personalityis very much kind of an all out in the open.Like he's one of those peoplethat you never wonder where you are
52:13with him. He justvery blunt, says what he thinks.He's not got any sort of pretenseor hiding anything. And I foundthat actually quite endearing early on toothat there was no pretenseand who he was.But
52:28yeah, he was just cooland I thought he was cool before we evenBecause that's not always the case right?You might get parted with something that you're not into.Oh, 100%. And I was actuallyreally worried, scaredthat that would happen to me.and I kind of thought I knew the direction that the leaders would send me
52:47and I did not like the guy at all.Oh, really?No, not at all.And so, yeah, I was very pleasantly surprised that it was Eli.So how long after you guys were coupled and married, did you end up leaving?That's actually a really good question.About four and a half years, yeah.Four and a half years.
53:08And how long before you actually left did you start talking about the fact?Because I'm imagining that first conversation of,Should we get out of here?Yeah, it was probably about two years before we left.Wow.That we had that first conversation of should we leave.Yeah.And did you have to tunnel out?
53:26Tunnel out.Get a teaspoon.Get a teaspoon.What is the process?Just drive out or do you just leave?How do you get out?I mean, you could do all manner of things.I guess you could swim across the lake outlet if you really wanted to.
53:41Wow.A very slow way to get away, though, swimming.Special in those big blue frocks.Oh, God.Yeah.I learned to water ski in that dress, I.Jeez.Are you kidding?
53:53Wait a second.What else did you?What else did you piss off?You did.I saw the skiing photos.I've seen skiing photos of you'd ski in the frocks.Well, Gloria Vail togs.We did have, there's a photo.
54:07Hang on, I've got the boat.Yeah, there's a photo.There's a good photo section.We said we love a book.I love a photo section.Love a photos.I'll come back to the dress because I just need to know the processbecause we know escaping Gloria Vale.
54:20There's people that run in the night.There's people that escape their families, never talked in the game.But you and Eli left together.Is that different?Yeah, I think right from when we decided we were going,we wanted to have control of that.So it wasn't like we were running away.A dirty, yeah.
54:37And I totally understand people needing to go without other people knowingbecause the way we chose to do it was really toughand particularly on mebecause I think they'd already given up on controlling Eliand making him stay and be a part of the place.They wanted him gone because he's too much of a rebel.Yeah, yeah.He's individual, he's quite comfortable in who he is
55:02and quite happy to ask questions.But me, they spent the next few hours really trying to manipulate.Yeah, change my mind.which was hard.Because looking at you now, it's just so, like,I would never look at you and be like,she's an escapee of Gloria Vail.Oh, good.
55:21You've still got a tinge of the Gloria Vail accent.Yeah, the accent.Hey, I'll just blame that I've got a little bit of a sinusy headcount.Oh, we'll blame that.As far as regional accents go in New Zealand,there is a Gloria Vail accent.Oh, 100%.Yeah, there definitely is.
55:37And I can hear it really clearly now too with people that leave.Sometimes my kids will be like,Mum, you're sounding a little bit Gloria Vail.Amazing.So you've got six kids, were all of them born within Gloria Vail?The oldest three were born in there.And what do they think?I don't know.
55:56You have to ask them.On your mum.I'm just so fascinated.Because, yeah, looking at you now,you've got nose ring and makeup onand multiple bearsings.Like, did it take you long to discover who you areoutside of Gloria Vail?
56:09It took me ages to disqual.discover who I was. I mean, I remember in the first few months, too, I went to a secondhand shopwith a newly made friend and she was saying, you know, what do you like? What should we belooking for? And I just was like, I don't know. Do you like stripes? I don't know. I don'tknow. I had no idea. Yeah. Wow. And then along with that too, it's what do I even believe I canwear, you know, be a good person and wear like, can I wear jeans? Can I shop for a tighttop or, you know, that kind of thing.Do you, I mean, I know, this is the book, right?
56:43Do you tell the whole story of leaving and your time, were you raised there from birth?Yeah.Yeah, so your time, what it's like to grow up there.I'm so fascinated.Are you connected with your family still?Because I know a lot of Gloria Vail levers aren't.Yep.I'm actually just ticked over about half of my family, my wider family, have left.
57:03Wow.Yeah.So, I mean, my kids have got 84 cousins.So.I've got four.You don't have to buy them all,you don't have to buy birthday presents, do you?No, there's no way.
57:16No, absolutely.I mean, that's what we're not doing that.It's hard enough to keep up with my six kids' birthday presents.Yeah, Christmas and stuff.Jepis.Yeah.So, but mum and dad?Mom and dad's still there,
57:28and four of my older siblings still there and their kids.So can you visit?I can, yeah.Do you?Yep.Wow.Can I ask,Oh my God, I'm just so,
57:39and please tell us if we're ever crossed the line.Do you still believe in God?Yes.Yeah.And did you have to reshape religion in any way?Or did you carry on with your faith?100%.Yeah, right.
57:49No, I had to completely reshape it.Like, do you go to a church?When I want to, yes.Yeah.It's just fascinating.Just don't try and make me a member of a churchor you won't see me again.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:01Okay, we've got so many questions.Let's come back next with more questions.Oh, yeah.We've got to know about the water scag.The ZM Podcast Network.We're back with Rosie who left Gloria Valeand has written a book about growing up there and livingbeyond the gates of Gloria Vale.
58:15Can we start with the water skiing?Yeah, yeah, let's go back to the dresses.So there is a photo in here of,is this a young in sort of a t-shirt to thigh one piece?Definitely not the triangle bikini I fought my mum to get.It was my itty-bitty-bitty.She was like, what for you?You've got nothing to show?
58:33Oh, boom.So what do you mean you had?did water ski in the dress?Well, so I'll tell youthe whole story, some youngguys left, right? Yeah. And then theycame back, so they were the prodigal sonskind of treated as, you know,
58:49this is so cool, they've returned to the truth.And hopeful we went out and bought a jetboatto celebrate.Celebrate, yep.To reward them. Yeah, and some skis.And so then they took all the boysdown, did a whole day at the lake,and then they took the girls down the next day.
59:05Yeah. And when you were swimming,with people from the opposite sex,you have to wear your full dress,whether that's in the lake or the pool or the river or whatever.And so, yeah, we went down in our full dressesand learnt to water ski.It was our one chance.You're not going to, like, go,
59:21oh, I'm wearing a dress, I can't learn you getting a chance to water ski.You're doing it.You're doing it.Rain, long dress.Is it polyester?Cotton, polyester mix.It looks like heavy.It does look heavy.
59:33Yeah, I thought it was a mix.Yeah, no, it's not wool.How many, how many of the dress?them do you have on the go at the time?Like how many do you own?You just rotate through them.You have like your kind of good dresswhich we wore to Sunday meetings
59:45and that sort of thingand then you have your best dresswhich was just for...So best is better than good?Best is better than good.That was like for weddings and...But they all looked the same.Yeah, they're all looked the same.
59:58And then you have your three work ones.Yeah, right.So would the Sunday dress eventuallybecome one of the work ones?Yes.I love this actually.I really like...This is sort of how you guys obviously.
01:00:06is how I dress.Yeah, it has a life, you know.Yeah, yeah, yeah.And as it gets a rip or a patch or something,it gets demoted to work dress.Right.Yeah.So you're on the boat and you jump off in your glory of our blues.
01:00:18And then, what, you just meant to swim like that?Life jackets.No.No life jackets.No.Well, that's the law now.Yeah, yeah.I mean, I would say that those dresses are quite dangerous things,
01:00:32especially if you, like, fall off.And I've had it where it goes over.you fall over your head.Not ideal.Not ideal.Definitely not.But hey, you like, you learn to just adapt.Do things, yeah, tough things because you want the good results.
01:00:48Were you on the TV documentaries or did you left by then?Both.So you were in the early ones.Because that was the thing.When the first one came out, it was a little bit of like a point in laugh.Like, oh my God, these people are living a while.And then the second one came out and everyone was like, it's back.And the third one, everyone was like,
01:01:07and you had started to see a bit more behind the,and then, of course, there was the investigations and stuffand some serious things happening behind the gates.We were actually in there when there was one filmed,and it was a wedding, so it was my sister and her husband, actually.Oh, wow.So we were in there when it was filmed,and then we had left by the time it came out.
01:01:29Was that the one where they chug-a-chug-chug-it-off in the little car?Yeah.One of them.Yeah, and the little people in the little...driving hat drove them to theiryeah I can't remember if that was the onewhere they were in the little car or where they gotkind of actually carried by six young men
01:01:44with you know like a rightyeah like a god on a frontbecause there was a few yeah a few different ones butit's just so fascinating you can visiteh like a heathen like me could goyeah you'd probably be more welcome than mewow yeah I don't know about youbut fletcher on the other hand
01:02:02burst into flames at the gates yeah yeah I wouldYeah.Spontaneous combustion.Can I ask now, I mean, I'm so, I love that you are so bold and brave to like share the good, the bad.And it feels like you are not super dark on it all, but maybe I'm wrong.You know, sometimes you meet people who have left Gloria Vale and they have a really, I don't know what the word is, like, evil view of the place now.Do you know where you stand looking back at it?Yeah, I think it's fair.
01:02:35for people to go through a period of being quite angryand have a dark view over the place.Because as you process stuff and you realise things,it can be quite, well, not just confronting,but upsetting that you've been lied to.Yeah.And that's just a process in itself to, and it takes time.Yeah.
01:02:54And you've just got to give people time.But there was a lot of good things too.Yeah.And I think now too, like my life feels so separate from that.Like sometimes I wonder how I connect.even reconcile that meand like are-biz. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
01:03:12Have you had any, have youdone therapy and stuff after it?Yes. She's like, oh yeah.Virginia, my therapist, would love toget her eyes around this.She's fascinated. She's actually, I'm toobusy with Haley, so.She's got on her point. I think we've got different
01:03:27issues. One, Hayley's actually with five glory veils.A therapist currency.Okay, but do you, would youwant to see it shut down? Do you think it should beclosed?Controversial journalism.It is.Sorry to go Mike Hosking on you.
01:03:42No, no, you're okay. You're okay.I don't like people just kind ofcoming out with this, like just shut that place down.It's abusing people, that sort of thing.Because, well, from my perspective,all those people there are very real people to me,like they're human.And I know how long it took me to
01:04:01like deconstruct,reconstruct, you know, kind offigure out who I was,figure out what I believed, what I think,who I am, and it takes so longat such a process that just shuttingthat place down, you've got,like, mental health is a real thing we need
01:04:17to kind of think about, just strip it away from people.And they don't realize the journeythat they need to go on.Yeah. So to just shut the place downis, I think, kind of quite a dangerousview to hold. That's really, that's aninteresting, yeah.I just still can't shake the line you said before about when your friend was like,
01:04:37what do you like?And you're like, I don't know.I don't know if I like stripes.So what would you say your life is like now?Did you come out and get a job?I didn't.Well, my husband did.You've got six kids.
01:04:48I'm not saying I have to have a job.You've got a job.You've got like the hardest job ever.But was it hard for him to get a job?No, actually, not too hard at all.He was actually given a job the day after we left, which was just amazing.and then worked away with friends and family,newfound family to create a CV
01:05:07and then apply for a farming job.And I think we applied for about 40 jobs.Yeah.And he got one.Yeah.And how would you describe your life now?Full.Yeah. Good.
01:05:19Just can't, I have so many momentswhere I'm like I can't even believe this is my life.Yeah.Just I can't.Amazing.I can't even imagine.Any other way?No.
01:05:30Well, I cannot wait to read this.Honestly, it's so fascinating, but I thinkyou're just, yeah, you're awesome.Thank you so much.This is Rosanna Overcomber,and the book is Beyond the Gates of Gloria Vail,what it takes to survive and what it costs to leave.Out now, everywhere.
01:05:44The Demand Podcast Network.Right now, it is time for...Fact of the day, day, day, day, day,day.Do do do do doIt's roller coasters todayIn amusement, Carnival ride historyCome on, we've got to get some music
01:06:09I'm going to get some Ronan Keaton going hereOh I was a roller roller coaster of loveBy the Red Hot Chili PeppersOh yeahNo we need I need youOhShould stop fightingOkay give me a moment
01:06:24Okay you take you a momentSo I'll tell you thatI didn't go to radio schoolI don't know what I'm doing hereI'll tell you about the three parentsThe three parents of the modern roller coaster.A Russian ice slide, a Pennsylvaniaan coal mine,and a Sunday school teacher on a mission against sin, sex, drugs and rock and roll.
01:06:43Jeepers.Okay.Where do we begin?Let's start in Russia.The oldest roller coasters weren't rolling.They were called Russian mountains.They were purpose-built hills of ice.I don't know if you guys have caught the news.
01:06:56Russia.Very cold.Very cold.Like a tobogging cold.Yes.but it was a specially built ice trackthat you rode down in a hollowed out icecart.
01:07:07It's given big cool runnings.But the cart's made of ice.The cart was also made of icebecause they worked outthat ice slid on ice very well.Yeah.So Catherine the Great loved it.She had a go on one
01:07:21and she was like, I'm going to have a pair of slidesbuilt at my palace.And so they had these slides built,made of ice.And then she said,I actually also want a summer version.Yeah, I was going to say, does it just melt away?You don't want to go on a ride when it's sort of spring.
01:07:37You know, and it's starting to drip and get a bit thin in some areas.Yeah, when your cart kind of melts to nothing as you're going.Yeah.It's so warm.So they had wheeled carts and they had grooves cut in the earth.The carts would sit in so they go on the specific track.Oh, yeah.And in lots of places, these were actually called,
01:07:55roller coasters were actually called Russian Mountains.Most of the world still will name the ride after Russia.Montana Russa in Spanish.Russian Mountain.And Montana Russia in Portuguese.I'm masquer in this, but I'm giving it my best go.Nailing it, Vaughn.As someone of no Portuguese heritage, you're mailing it.
01:08:13I'm actually doing really, really well.So then let's go to the Pennsylvania coal minewhere a coal company in Pennsylvania built a gravity railroad.So full coal cars were rolled down the mountain on their own.They were just like pushed and left to their own devices.and mules would pull the empty cars back up.But the mules wouldn't, they would ride the cart down.So if there was an empty thing, they'd chuck the mules,
01:08:34and then we need the mules back down to pull up the empty thing.So they go, shoo, shoo, sure.Apparently got to the point where the mules worked out,they actually didn't have to walk down ever again.Because sometimes the cart would be so full of coal.They'd be like, oh, the mule carts full, get the mules to walk down,and the mules would just refuse to walk.No, I want to take a slip sliding.
01:08:52Because they want to go on the roller coaster.Yeah.So then humans who worked in the coal mine were just like,why are we walking down like suckers at the end of the day?So they jumped in and they were like,it was the best part of the day.It was quitting time because I got to ride down the hill.And that's where the rainbows end.
01:09:06Gold Rush actually comes from too.Yeah, yeah.Basically.Totally.I'm not walking out of this mine.So the company added open passenger cars.You had to walk up the hill.But then they'd, or you could get pulled by a mule.
01:09:19A mule up, but that would cost more.But if you walked up your own way, you could ride it back down.more than 30,000 people did it in the openingand they were like, we're actually making a killingoff letting people ride these empty cards.All the than we are, we would getif we filled it with coal and pushed it down.Right.
01:09:35Seben LaMarcus Thompson,who invented what he called a seamless stocking machine.And he was a, so he made stockings.No ladders.No seams, kind of way.And he was also a devout Christian.And he said saloons and brothelsare taking over America
01:09:51and steering it in the wrong direction.Who is?So he, sex, drugs and rock and roll,brothels and in saloons.So he was like,I need to give them a wholesome thrill instead.And he'd ridden the old mind track.So the man making women's stockings,
01:10:05yes.Seamless stockings was anti, okay, yeah.It was anti-sex.It's always these like crazy conservative.He wasn't making fish nets.I don't think he was making,it's the seamless,it sounds like a sock,
01:10:16more like a thick sock.Yeah,trying to cover up the leg.Or do you want some more identification?So he'd ridden an old mind trackand he said it was the best thrill he had of his life.Okay.So he built a switchback row at Coney Island in 1884.
01:10:28It wasn't fast.It cost a nickel.And it was a 10km an hour ride, but it was massive.10-gay an hour.It cost $1,600 for him to build it, and it bought in $600 in a single day.Wow.That's good return.So it started making good bank.
01:10:42So that was the origins of the roller coaster.And from there, they've just got bigger and faster.And that one went 10 kilometers an hour.The world record holder, as of the 31st of December 2025, is the Falconflight in Saudi Arabia.It's the tallest, fastest and longest roller coaster in the world.Is that one of those ones that goes,it goes, huh, uh, it reaches, no, it's a whole, it's a full,
01:11:03actual roller coaster.It reaches 250 kilometers an hour.What?250.I'm not going on there.I'm sorry.You can get frills other ways.250 kilometers.
01:11:14No.I'd do it, I'd do it.I love roller coasters.I love roller coasters.I hate it at the time when you're going,chich, ch, chik, up the thing.And you know, you know, you're about to, like, have a shit.drop down. And it's apparently at its
01:11:25highest, a hundred and ninety meters tall.So I'm out. That's like two rugbyfields end on end.That's two thirds away at the sky tower.What's it called? Horny.Falcons flight.In Saudi Arabia.Saudi.
01:11:39Six flags in California just shut. We've talked aboutthis. They shut down the, is it the X2?Because it was giving people brain damage.And people just died.Someone fell off a roller coasterlast week. Wow. Yeah.Facts. Facts.It wouldn't have happened if they were only going
01:11:5310 kilometers an hour on Coney Island on a good Christian man's rollercoaster that he builtwas stopping money.So that we were less attracted to premarital sex.Yeah.You get your shrills other ways.So today's fact of the day is it went from Russia to a coal mine to Coney Island andit has become a favorite, a roller coaster.Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
01:12:26Do-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D.Play Z-M's Flesh-Fawn and Haley.Now, we want to know right now, what ruined the wedding?Maybe it was a moment, a person, an event, a weather event, an emergency.Because there is a very funny clip online.There is a couple.They're having a, what looks like quite a traditional wedding, big dress suit.And they're hand in hand, and it's time to say the vowel.
01:12:56and this is all you can hear.The embarrassing, earnest healing kind of us.Wait is important.Life is too short not to love someone who lets you be a few.So, what is it?Drumming?That is a big marching band.And if you can hear it, they're playing the Ghostbusters thing.
01:13:17Now, what I think, as a former celebrant working on getting it back,like the celebrant just did the worst thing,which was just try to ignore it and keep it really serious.She's just trying to blast through this thing.Apparently later on in the video,she does go like,shall we pause?And they just pause to listen.
01:13:35And it's just like,ding,ding da ding ding the whole time.And it sounds so close.Like there's a hedge behind them.So it was like a park?In America,they're outside.
01:13:44And there's like a hedge behind them.And I think whatever's behind that hedge.It's where the band practices.It's practicing.And they're playing who you're going to call Ghostbusters.It's brilliant.If this was my wedding,I'd be loving it
01:13:57I'd have such a laughBut they seem quite seriousYou've got a great videoYeah yeah yeah yeahYeah well now you're a viral video as wellYou're having a good laughBut I want to know what spoiled the weddingMaybe you also had someone sharing the venue
01:14:09You knowI've been to a wedding where a dog just barkedThe entire timeWe were like in the next door property or somethingOhYou'd at least ask them barked and barkedAnd barked and barked and barked and barkedI knew you were my soulmate
01:14:23SorryThat too, by the way, not ooh.Oh, it was a yappy dog.You've taught me how to love myself.I promise, oh yeah, that would just be awful.I mean, you've got to laugh at these things, right?That's why I was like, you have to.But, yeah, maybe it was your wedding that got ruined by something, something caught fire.
01:14:44It was a guess.It's always better when it's...When you were at a wedding...Yeah, because you're removed and not paying for it.Yeah.Thankfully.It's not your special day that's being ruined by something.Yeah.
01:14:53Okay, well, we want to take your text now.9-696, text into the studio.0,800, Darls at them to call us.Great, sorry, great messages.What ruined the wedding?So many calls.Anna, good morning.Morning, team.
01:15:07What ruined the wedding?So we had this beautiful garden wedding planned.Everything was perfect.And apparently, I don't remember because I was so in the moment, which is lovely.But we were in front of a hedge, and apparently the rubbish truck turned up to empty the skip mid-s ceremony.behind the hedge on the other sideand I didn't even notice.It is the worst because I've got a skip in at the moment
01:15:29and when they drop it off, it's likeand they're connecting the chainsand oh my God.And the poor people who owned the gardenwere just absolutely mortifiedthat no one had remembered to postpone the rubbish truck.It's just not something you'd think of.It would have been worse of it.
01:15:45You know, glass bottle, like the recycling?Oh my God, we hear the back of a bar.Terrible. Yeah.Anna, thank you.Let's go to JT, JT, what ruined the wedding?Morning.My father is a bad.Oh, no.
01:16:01Oh, JT.Sorry, your line just cut out there.Bad reception.Start again.Start again.No, you're right.Okay, stop.Yep, my father's a high-end marriage celebrant.
01:16:12Yeah.And he gets flowing all over the country.And he was in a high-end south wire up a venue.The rooms are $5,000 a night.They helicoptered him in.And he's there and there's this kid down the back and the kid's one jobis to have the rings and have this big puffy pillow with the rings on themand the music's playing there's a band and when it comes time
01:16:36where's the kid?He's not there, is he?And so the kid's meant to walk down the aisle with the ringsand everyone just looked down the back and there's this kid standing in the bushsmacking this tree with this pillowand the rings are somewhere.Oh no!Oh my God!
01:16:52And if they're helicoptering your dadand they're helicoptering into this wedding,I imagine those rings are tens of thousands of dollars.Oh yeah, we've got a few zeros.Yeah.Definitely.They found the rings, but it took about 35 minutes.Oh, my gosh.
01:17:06The funniest part was he said that none of the womenwanted to look for the ringsbecause they were too, like, posh to get that on their knees.Oh, get into the bush in their, in their Versailles.I bet.If the ring can't be spot from a mile away,because the diamond's obviously not.they're not big enough.
01:17:22It's too small.Make it bigger.What a fast...I bet your dad has some amazing stories.Sure does.See, I'm a poor hudder, um, celebrant.I drive myself.Yeah, I was going to say,
01:17:33what makes your dad a high-end celebrant?Is it that he's the only celebrant in New Zealandthat doesn't use a plastic file folder for his...No, I had leather bound, thank you.Did you?Pleather bound.Yeah, oh, he's got a clipboard.Yeah, custom made.
01:17:46He's stoic and very, he's a very hard man.So people, other hard people like him.I guess that was what I thought.Yeah, right.I bet JT's dad's got a nice pen for signing.Oh, does he have a nice pen for the signing?Yeah, I bought him one for Christmas.Yeah, I'd take $250 for it.
01:18:02A weighty, yeah, that'd be a weighty nice pen.JT., thank you.I want to go to one of these high-end weddings.Alicia, good morning.What happened at the wedding?What went wrong?Good morning.So, for our first kiss, I thought we were going for a dip.
01:18:20He did not.And we both ended up on the floor.I got a concussion, and I was probably swallowed by my dress.And I've got a photo sequence of us falling down.I kind of love it.I sort of love it.And it was on live stream as well.So that was crazy.
01:18:37There is a video of this.I need to see it.Please send it to our Instagram.Did you not rehearse the dip?No.We don't dip unrehearsed.Yeah, I kind of just pulled them down with me.It was flat.
01:18:51It was everyone to say.Will Johnson from Tadongwas a celebrant, so he found itvery funny. Oh my gosh.I bet, I bet. Do you know producerKarwin is engaged to be wed and she'staking notes.Practice the dip, Colin.
01:19:07Yeah, they brought it up inthe photographer's podcast. He'sbrought it up on like three separate occasions.Oh, God, I bet.So it's very well remembered, but we're stillmarried five years later.Oh, happy ending.I think if you can
01:19:21laugh that you've got a good life ahead.The ZAMP cast network.Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley.This is just brilliant.Didn't ruin the wedding, but it's funny as I was walking up.The beach aisle, a dog was behind the cellar and taken a huge shit on the bench.That's giving Rarot.That's giving one of those.
01:19:38Did you see the weird dogs in Raro when you were there for the first time?I was obsessed with them.I saw the three-legged dog, very famous dog in Raro.But isn't it sad with the Raro dogs?They'll walk with you for a bit.And you're like, we've got a friend.And then all of a sudden they'll just disappear and you're like,No, I kept my my pack well fed.
01:19:54Yeah, no, I don't know.But there's shit in everywhere.And I saw three weddings while I was there, two actually from listeners.Oh, wow.Yeah, they were coming up to me.So I'm going to a wedding and one was the bride.Oh, wow.And yeah, I was like, if you're on the beach, you are surrounded by those Raro dogs.
01:20:08I think if you're at the beach, you know that, you could be interrupted.Yeah.What is that?Can I just give a little behind the scenes?I'm so close to pulling those curtains.I'm, I am.What?I'm easily distracted.
01:20:23It's a diagnosis that I will not pay for, but I'm easily distracted.These two, Fletch looks kind of out the window to where the hot people from the gym come and get fruit smoothies and Haley Bieber smoothies.I was looking up at the clouds.I'm looking at my temperature here, 17.2 right now outside the studio.Do I need to warn the listeners about impending rain?We're in a network radio show.We can't be too specific about weather details because we're broadcasting.I wasn't looking at anything else.
01:20:49And it's all different all over the country.Hey, I was looking at that guy.When you look, she's like, he's looking at something.She doesn't want to miss out.She's got to turn around and have a look at whoever's out the window as well.I mean, who's this red-headed six-foot female goddess?So it's just, we do need, we need to move studios.Cuddens, probably get curtains.
01:21:04No, he's got more windows.He's got a, he's got a view down too.It's not like in the crow's nest.That guy.But every time you'll hear Fletch be like,da-da-da-da-da-da.That is Fletch catching.And then that noise in the look gets Haley going.
01:21:18She'll disappear in mid-sentence.But that thing's ridiculous.What is that?I've never seen anything like it.That's sort of crazy.He can't get blessed in all ways physically.I'm a professional pervert.I can look and continue to speak.
01:21:35I can continue Jesus.Okay.We engage entirely in what that man.I don't know what he eats and I don't know how he does it,but he's definitely getting his protein.I think you've got to be born with that.I don't think I'm getting enough protein.I'm not.
01:21:46I haven't been prioritising protein.All you eat is, mate.Yeah, I'm not getting enough protein.What are you talking about?I'm not eating enough protein.You eat too much, mate.Oh my God, we were getting married in Spain, up a mountain.At sunset was the plan.
01:22:00We were on our way and then the rental car broke downand we were stranded on the side of the road for so long.We missed sunset.No.7pm the night before the wedding.Steaming the bridesmaid's dresses,which is sat and someone walks past,the dress blows onto the iron where we're standing it with mounts the dress.
01:22:16No! Front middle.Front middle!All the bridesmaids.Oh, no.because you couldn't wear them backwards.Okay, you're all wearing the dresses backwards.Hold the flowers in front.Cape.
01:22:25Yes.And a cape.Backwards and a cape.Hold the flowers in front.I just get bigger bouquets of flowers.I got a pack and save.I'll get more flowers.I'll be ramming those into the bouquets.
01:22:33Is pack and save in Spain?Yeah.No, this is a different wedding.Different wedding.El Pachisave.El Pachisava.Went to a wedding where one of the group.We will not be swaping your club card discount.
01:22:45We will not be packing your bag.Packing your all in the bag.The boxes are over there.went to a wedding where one of the groomsmen was on the gear and he ended up punching the groomand then climbed the tree to get away.Okay.Not his finest day.He's on the gear.
01:22:59Time and place.Best friend booked a beautiful villa on Airbnb for a wedding.Didn't seem to think that it being right beside the Queenstown Airport runway was going to be a problem.See, I love planes.It would be fun.I'd love that.Oh my God.Our celebrant, we've been hearing about some great celebrants.
01:23:15Our celebrant decided to do a surprise wee number, played his own music on.a crackly boom box.It's not about you.And then made us push some lame stone hearts together.He really went rogue.I'd be so pissed off if the celebrate went rogue.I'd be just...Wedding at Jack's Point in Queenstown.
01:23:35Oh, nice.Must be north.Does anyone have a reason why these two should not be joined in marriageand a duck in the pond behind the altarstarted quacking up a storm?Oh, that's brilliant.That's brilliant.Are they still together?
01:23:47Did the duck know something?Yeah, we need a follow-up.That's a dead person.couple still together. Do you think so? I think it's a dead person who is coming to stop thewedding. Who's been reincarnated as a duck. This duck will do. It's the closest thing. I'mabout to read out of text. Don't laugh halfway through. Because the second half.I think you could do in that. Because sometimes you don't do that. You always laughing.Ha ha ha ha, cancer. And we're like, oh. Went to my brother's wedding in Canada during the reception.
01:24:10Some swings broke while a guest was on the swing. Sorry.Right? No, no, no. I'm not. I didn't laugh. You didn't laugh.Right before speeches were due to start.She's paralyzed now and in a wheelchair.Well, you're not laughing now, aren't you, Haley?I am a little bit.I laughed at Haley North.Jesus, that's full on.
01:24:34How big was the swing?I love a swing as an adult.You've got to be able to trust a swing.Adore a swing.Well, I'm not going on to the swing now.Jeez, that's horrible.Had to call the police of my mother-in-law who was bashing my father-in-law.She only got invited two days before the wedding due to her behavior leading up to it.
01:24:51she told she would be not allowed to drink,but kept sneaking off to get pissed,and then got belligerent and weird during the speeches,and he tried to sort her out, and she gave him a donk.COVID-19, did you read that one?Cancelled our wedding in New Zealand.They happened a lot, didn't it?So we re-booked a little elope in Raro.
01:25:07Guess what happened over there?A cyclone.Oh, yeah.On the day, we were supposed to be getting married.Oh, my God, we've got to marry.We ended up getting married inside of an office in Rarotonga.Yeah, I know that the inside venue,hearts for Rata Tonga never quite matches up to the beach.
01:25:23How's this? We were getting married on a boat.Big boat, borrowed it off a friendbecause, you know, they are rich, obviously, they're boat people.Must be nice.Halfway through the vows, just this massive good douche.We look oversight. A boat had crashed into the big boat and was sinking.Wait, the boat you're on is sinking.No, no, the little boat that crashed into it.
01:25:41I imagine it was like a little sailboat or something.Yeah, yeah.It's a kid that didn't know how to sail crashes into the big boat and then sinks.Play Z-M.Fletch for him.Between the sogs, we are having topriven away from a book.Beyond the gates of Gloria Vail.
01:25:56Rosie's book.By Rosie Overcomer who came in before.If you missed Rosie on the show earlier at 8 o'clock,catch up on the podcast.It's so fascinating.I'm literally, I'm up to chapter two,and I'm already stopping every page and be like,guys, da-da-da-da-da-da.
01:26:09And telling them, but it's wild.It makes me feel really bad for all the Glorovale jokeswhen the first documentary came outand we all thought it was just this funny bunch of weirdosliving in a,in a commune.Well, we know now, don't we?Geez, I...
01:26:24Do we?Do we?Do we want to win a copy of the book?Go to our Instagram page.F-E-H-Z-M-R and, yeah, comment to win.A coffee to give away.If you can get your eyes around this book.Fascinating.
01:26:38Holy-ha.But you catch up on a podcast, which will be out later today, or later this morning, rather.What I'm doing right now, because I want to talk about ghosting,is I'm trying to look up the guy during my Sproul and the prowl.one guy that completely ghosted me.Just see where he's at.Which is like bizarre, right?Because like you're so hot.
01:26:57Are you seeing this?Are you picking up?Why would you not talk to this again?The actual audacity of this fella.I love that it doesn't bother you.It's such an ego sting.I also, it puts me off because I mean, I'm not, I wasn't looking for a boyfriend.Whoops.
01:27:16But it puts me off because it just shows me how.mature you are that you couldn't just send a message to go, hey, I'm loving hanging out,but I'm off on a different direction.But you also haven't dated very long in the modern dating era.Oh, when I first talked about this, was it last year, this year?Last year.And everyone was like, hey, welcome.Like, yes, this is what's happening?
01:27:40I was like, what?I got ghosted?Yeah.The reason I'm talking about this is a psychotherapist.Her name's Mandy Lam.great name.Mandy Lam says...Oh, black betty, Mandy lamb.
01:27:51Oh, black betty, Mandalay.Mandalay.She's analyzing your brain.Mandy lamb.And she thinks you're insane.Mandi lamb.In fact, she should get a radio jingle.We'll do it for free.
01:28:00We will.Oh, black bit, Mandy lamb.So she's been talking about the fact thatthe way to approach datingis to think that every dateis possibly the last time you're ever going to see that personbecause ghosting is so common.Oh, my God.
01:28:17God.And she was saying,she's saying,this is how we're going into dating,not how you should.But people are approaching things being like,well, you know,don't get your hopes up,
01:28:27ghosting so common,this guy's probably going to ghost meor this girl's probably going to ghost me like this.And she says it kind of becomesa self-fulfilling prophecybecause you become very guarded.So you go, okay, well, you know,don't get too invested.
01:28:40And often that can like leak.And they pick up in the energy of like,well, she's not even interested.I think you've got to think about this,not just with dating in all aspects of your life.If you imagine a problem before there's a problem,you're kind of going to create the problem.You do.
01:28:55Mandy lamb.Here he is.Mandilam.Mandalayam.Because you do.You hold back because you're like,well, I'm going to get ghosted.Mandalayam.
01:29:04And so you start acting nonchalant.And then we know that people now,they're looking for shalons.They want to be forward.Yeah.And so you've actually probably put them off.They're making it more likely for you to get ghosted.So they're not asking for a second date
01:29:18and you're like, ghosted.Mandelam.Mandelam says that was actually youcreating this thing.I got ghosted.Mandilam says, no you didn't.It's like if you go looking for a problemyou're going to find it.
01:29:30You know what I mean?If you expect to be ghosted, you're lookingand you're being like thisand then your whole energy changes on the date.But yeah, she was like, we get it.It's a trauma response reallyfor people that have been ghosted.And then I was like, what's my trauma about getting ghosted?
01:29:43And then remember I went in, I went to that restaurantand he was there at the restaurant he took me to on a date on another date.So it wasn't like he ghosted me because he was done with dating or hanging out.Yeah.He just didn't like me.I just don't understand.Pretty a bit much for him.I was so interesting.
01:30:02Probably too hot and too much personality.Nailed out.That's exactly what it was.So now you can just rest easy.I've just found him online.Yeah.How's he going without you?Kind of thriving.
01:30:16The ZM Podcast NetworkZDN's fleshed woman HaleyHas someone said something to you that's made you changeEither your appearance or how you act or what you doLike for example when I was hostingHave You Been Paying AttentionAnd a woman wanted to message me and sayYour hair is the same colour as your skin
01:30:34And you look like a thumbSo I went back to BruneerDo you remember when I had this super blonde hairAnd I had really fair skinAnd I looked at a photoAnd I was likeit's giving some.Right.
01:30:48Well, I mean, maybe, I mean, but not everybody's in the public eye,but maybe it was a comment that a friend said or someone said,you know, like boomers don't hold back when they're giving critiques about your looks or you.Yeah, but I don't think we should take on board all of the boomers feedback.No, God, no.Maybe it was a kid that said something to you because they don't have a filter.So there is a video that Barry Keegan has shared from Salt Burn and all sorts of things.He's going to be in the new Beatles.
01:31:14He's one of the Beatles.Isum ringo.I know with the long nose.So he was saying, he'd been hearing a lotabout how his skin's quite loose.Like he's got quite folding.He had a wrinkly forehead.But I thought that was like part of his look and his appeal.
01:31:31He just had that weathered old mate look, hey?Yeah.Yeah.So he said he'd been hearing a lot of this.And so he thought to investigate it.And he's actually had a skin tightening therapyto go like,like like this.
01:31:46Kind of just pull it to it.It's not super, it's called Xerf.It's not like a suit.He hasn't had like a facelift, staple it back,you know, six week recovery thing.It's like injections and kind of tightening like this.It's giving, I'm Googling it.Do you know what I mean?
01:32:01It's giving, this feels like the solution for me.Just to do the face and neck though is in New Zealand dollars seven grand.So it's giving, I won't be doing that.Yeah.But yeah, basically it was just like, yeah,people kept saying it and I was like, oh yeah, I suppose I could go and get a treatment done.Are there photos of what it looks like now?Does it...
01:32:21Yes, hang on.I just closed that tag.So I'm reading more about Zerf, no needles.It uses radio frequencies to lift and tighten the skin.But you could stay young just by listening to the radio.I think I was just, the one I was reading about.Different radio.Like numbing though and out because it's pretty tight.
01:32:39Yeah, so here's a little, um...Oh, God, these ads.I'll buy it.Can you see that?Oh yeah, okay, that's really tight, isn't it?Like, wow.Right, okay.I might talk to my lady.
01:32:55But he did, he's, I think, a very interesting face.But like, if he wasn't a movie star and he just went about his life, he probably wouldn't even give, you know, two tosses about that.I mean, oh my God, that looks insane.The facialist who did it was the one who shared saying, you know, we've been doing the skin tightening on Barry.And it...He looks like a K-pop.Like...Yeah, it looks like Korean skin care.
01:33:19It does, yeah.Almost AI.But the thing is, he's changed his appearancebecause everybody was teasing him on the internet.Yeah, basically.That's sad.I know, but maybe it was like a hair colourand someone just, you know...
01:33:30Said something.Well, this is what we want to know this morning.What did you change after someone said somethingabout how you look or something you do?Maybe how you dress, yeah, how you speak?Oh my goodness me.What did you change?about your appearance after someone said something to you.
01:33:47Maybe your appearance or the way you speak or something like thatbecause Barry Kagan has heard everyone saying,he's got quite loose skin.And he's had a skin tightening treatmentand the therapist's shared photos online.Everyone's like, huh.Is he a Korean pop star now?Like it looks glassy.
01:34:02It looks glassy and taught.So we want to know, and we're getting some sad messages in.I know.When you say something to someone, think about it.Yes.Because it could stick with them.Yes, indeed.A lesson we could all live by, including us.
01:34:19We're not perfect.Somebody messaged.Well, some of us aren't, for sure.As it may, you're talking about me?What do I need to change?Well, you know.I don't know if I would have done that with my face.A kid at school called me dotty legs because I have keratosis Polaris.
01:34:34Oh, yeah.So now I have a whole skin care routine for my legs.Oh, but it's on the back of my arms.Curetosis Polaris.You know those red little, it's like a keratosis.That very common harmless skin conditionthat causes rough small chicken skinbumps on the hair follicles.
01:34:50Chicken skin.Like half rotissory chock?I am.I wouldn't have called it.This is the official medical description.You can't be calling it chicken skin.This is making people feel bad.When I worked in a shop,
01:35:01a kid asked me if I'd done my hair like that on a purpose.Kids are ruthless.Oh, I did that.Do you know I did that?When I was in primary school,I did, you know how everyone had the spy skills?We know them now as Slut strands.Right?
01:35:16Everyone was doing those.And I got a bob cut, but I left the front two bits at the long length.And I remember a teacher saying, oh, have you done that on purpose?And I got home, I was like, chunk, chunk, cut it off.Yeah.I was told I had made too much.I was told I was too much and made everything all about myself.It made me very introverted for quite a while.
01:35:35I bet, yeah.I went copper and my three-year-old called me carrot head repetitively.You best believe I died at Dark Black and never went back.Oh my gosh.I grew up in South Auckland, so I used to talk with a South Auckland accent.Now, I will have to ask you what you mean by that.What do you mean?I asked you yesterday.
01:35:57I asked you yesterday.I said it.I switched schools to a slightly more posh school and I was told by someone we don't talk like that here.Oh.Holy shit.Immediately watched the way I talked after that and changed that.I'm so sorry.I'm too appellate.
01:36:12But you'll say, I've spent my time on the rough streets of Manu Rewa.Yes.Did Cream Margaret's talk posh?Yes.Well, when I got to drama school, my acting teacher in year one said you talk like a private school girl.Because I do speak very clipped and clear.Yeah.And so I did try to like, relax so I could sort of just absorb any character.
01:36:36And then now I'm just back to being a public talker that you can understand.Heaven forbid.Clipped and clear.Clipped.And clear.My ex-boyfriend said I'd look hotter on a police uniforminstead of the ambulance uniform that I just acquired with my new career.Did I say ambulance?
01:36:50Ambulance?Ambulance.Ambulance.I too have spent some time on the rough streets of Manurewa.Manurewa, where I was raised rough and ready.And we used to see the ambulance.The ambulance.So I was going to change my career, but I changed my boyfriend.
01:37:07Yeah, fear.20 years ago I was laughing at work and a guy loudly said,Yuck, what a laugh.Took me 10 years to start laughing out loud again.Yuck, what a laugh.Yeah.Fletchhorn and Haley in the mornings.Yes.
01:37:20We laugh out louder, even if you have a yuck laugh.Yeah.Cue Morgan Penn.When I was maybe 13 years old, I was walking home from rugby practice.I was pretty sweaty.And some girls that would have been about the same age as me were walking the other way and they passed.And I heard one of them go, ooh, that one's dirty and smells bad.Now, even over 10 years later, I still cannot leave.
01:37:41the house or go anywhere if I'm slightly sweaty.I shower so often and obsessively usebody spray to the point where peoplethat are new to me sayI'm being a little bit over the top about it all.Yeah, you are. I never want to feel the way I didin that moment ever again. Yeah.Oh my, that's so crazy
01:37:58that like one bitchy comment.It does. It just stays with you.My mum said... Careful with your words. They're powerful.Very powerful. You they are.Powerful.My mum said, wow,you got little sausage fingers when I was like,I think about it every time I look at my fingers.
01:38:11Yeah, but that's not your fault.I bought a lovely colourful woolen jumper from an op shop that I thought was pretty cool.And when I got to work, everyone called me.David Bain?David Bain.Oh, no.I never wore the jersey again.I took it back to the same op shop.
01:38:26Because the story was, correct me for him wrong, but that was like a police, was that just lost property or something they just found him?No, I thought he wore them frequently.The first jumper when he was photographed?That's the story.He went in without a jumper and they're like,you're going to need a jumper.And so, yeah, they grabbed him some one that they had lying aroundand that was the famous.
01:38:47Yeah, and that's why he was photographed in that.He was like, oh, where's the jumper?He must have done it.Yeah, gross jumper.Now he's synonymous.Questionable jumper choices by some New Zealand high profiles.Like, Scott Watson?No, I met Crohn.
01:39:02Like, yeah, Dave Dobbin almost crossedinto Bain territory there for a while.Sorry, criminal.Because Scott Watson wore a weird.Yeah.Didn't he have a teakolored swan dry?It might have, yeah.Like a bit of a situation going on there.
01:39:14Joseph and the Technicolour's swan dry, it's the Kiwi version.He's like, oh, I'm married, how are you?My son, okay.My son, who was six years old, kept calling me Big Back.Big Back, so I started going to go on the weight loss injections once a weekand I go to the gym four times.So where can I'm taking care of that big back.My auntie teased me for having my long eyelashes when I was a kid.
01:39:37She looked like a cow, you got long eyelashes.Oh, my lashes are so hot.You're so hot.You're mad of money people.spend. I got bushy eyebrows as a kid.Got haunted and I got them plucked thin.Now.The bushy eyebrows are back.
01:39:49I was going to try to wiggle them but Botox.I forgot. I got a boob jobbecause the boys at high school called me surfboard.Worth it now. By God, they look great and they bounceup and down.Did you start reading that text and thennot read the end? I'm starting to read the end.Now got a lovely visual image
01:40:05going into the end of the show.Oh, we've still got a little bit more to go.I will not sit here and have youI'm just thinking focus on work.That is quite disgusting.You have been proving at people at the cafe outside all day.This is so inappropriate.But did you do hear us say we wished he jiggled up and down?
01:40:23Did we say look at his boobies jiggling up and down?That man did that bounce on him to jiggle up and down.That is, dear listen, Haley and I will apologise on behalf of Bourne.That woman spent money and she said they looked great and they bounce up and down and I said,I'm a feminist, if anything.Don't do the cladman.The clasp's creepy.Don't mind spank this woman.
01:40:42She's just messaging.I thought I was working with broadcasting professional.Let's go out and get a coffee.Let's actually...I think we should go to the coffee shopwhere that guy's working.And just give you five minutes to cool down.The ZM Podcast Network.
01:40:57ZM's Fletchpoint and Haley.So a little poll today is do you use email sign-offs?EG, kind regards, chairs all.Nami!There was an article the other day about the, like, why do we still do this?Regardless.Especially when you're emailing someone, it's just like, do you just put your name?I just put some...
01:41:33Yeah, I say cheers or chur.Cheers, yeah.Or just your name.Or yeah, Haley.I still, and I always cross the line, I'll go, Haley, X, like a kiss.Oh, yeah.To my builder.Thanks for the email.
01:41:46Looking forward to this.Yep, confirmed contract attached.Haley.Yep, your surgeon, X.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Gino.Yeah, X.So the options were yes, always, only informal emails or no.
01:41:5965% of people, yes, always.Okay.28% only informal emails and 7% of people are not using email sign-offs.I work in healthcare, so I have to keep it polite,but if I'm emailing a friend, I'll end up something silly.Like, I hope this email blows your tits clean off.Yeah, love that.I love those memes of how your email finds me.
01:42:19Yeah.Hope this email finds you well.No.Just let me know if you need.anything else from me. Thanks,Jordy Campbell. That's how I sign off mine saysJordy. I hate when it's done bylike AI. It's obviously written email.
01:42:31Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.It's just, okay, stop it.Like, the Gmail. The Gmailhas that when you go to reply and it doesn'treply for you and you're like, I don't want that.Thanks, Nikki, that sounds great and I'll get onto itstraight away. Like, this is my friend.Yeah. Rebecca said, for work, I have my signature
01:42:47set as Kapaitira.Oh, nice. Had a good day. And II changed it on Fridays for the weekend to Kapaitura Fakata.Have a good weekend, maybe.Oh, love that.You're so white sometimes, but thanks for trying.No, I think you did a good job there.Oh, it was good.
01:43:03I'll drop some in soon, some radio for you, Haley.I undertake my trio like someone on a lowered car coming up to a speed bump.Just really good.I know I'm going to give it a go.I go in, I slow right down and I do a little bit of an angle.Yeah, you get your go out, swing wide a bit.But is the bottom of your car scraped?No.
01:43:23White corporate workers love a Namehi.Oh, they love a Namehi.And if you are actually Māori, you hit the Nāmehi Nui.Yeah.You add the newie.Erin said my job is very confrontational by nature.So I always try to jazz it up with a thank you.And Alicia, somewhere...
01:43:39What's competition by nature?I don't know.You owe the I-N-D $30,000.Maybe.Somewhere between, for formal emails and all ways, to start a conversation, I always use it.But if the email chain continues, then...Oh, that's a good call.Opening email initial reply, yes, but if it becomes an email chain,
01:43:54no need.No need for it.So we asked for Sylodipal to use ML sign-offs,and 65% of you are doing it always.Oh, another one in the bag.It's a Versace bag as well.If you enjoyed that, give us a rating and review,and be sure to tell your mates.
01:44:07You don't sound sincere there, boy.I'm just reading what's written here.Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.
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