Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 28th October 2026
00:00From the ZM Podcast Network.This is Fleshwin and Haley's Big Pod.Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse.The biggest brands at the lowest prices.ZM's Fletchwan and Haley.Hello, good morning.Welcome to the show, Fletch Fawn and Haley.Happy Wednesday, two minutes past six.
00:19Some reason I thought you were to say two minute noodles.I don't know what.Happy Fletchfurt and Haley, happy Wednesday, two minute noodles.Two minute noodles part of this night?Yeah.Or after school you can have those without cooking them and just eat them.Just do whatever you want, crunch them up like a little biscuit.Oh yeah, I would do that sometimes but two minute noodles cooked is better and all the sauce simmer off.
00:41Yeah, for sure.To make them really soft and gooey.Oh, really?You're doing it long.Yeah, make it gooey two minute noodle.Sweet and sour.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Chicken.
00:49Delish.Yeah, absolutely.Delish.Now coming up on the show this morning, another chance to go in the draw to get to South America,a country with so many incredible destinations.Thanks to Lataam Airlines.We're going to do that at 8 o'clock this morningto listen out for the Activator to call through.
01:04You're listening for Harry Stiles songs as well this morning.You are?During the show, if you want to see him live on us in Melbourneat Marvel Stadium, flights, tickets and accommodation.It's to be the first call of through when you hear Harry's Stiles.That concert looks amazing, by the way.Yeah.How does he get his shorty shorts so short?
01:21Like a suit pant, that's that short.I know suit should be longer.I reckon they can't afford it.Yeah, they're gorgeous.I reckon he's got a bit of money before.I reckon he's doing.I personally think he's probably financially not doing too bad.He's doing okay.
01:34You're the top six very soon for us, Vaughn.Yeah, people are looking at their AI agents as friends.And therapists?And therapists.Yeah.Now, I've got the top six signs that your AI is a better friend than your actual friends.Aw.We're actual friends.
01:52Oh, this isn't speaking from my experience.Oh, that's good.Just people are on a whole experience.We've got sexologist Morgan Penn on the show after 7 this morning.Oh, happy hump day.Yeah, new episode of your podcast, Sex Not Life is out today.It's been doing very well.This is a bloody goody this episode.
02:09Hang on, let me just look.I just need to confirm.Yeah, oh!Yeah, it's full noise.Are there tears?There's tears and there's fireworks.Oh, okay.Literal fireworks.
02:21Wow.So I can't wait to talk to more about it.Oh, I know this story.Do you know this story?Yeah, I think I know the story too.This is very disappointing.Wild story.Okay, well that's Sex. Life, the podcast, out now.
02:33Next on the show, we are at the 28th of October,where at that time of the year,where we're getting the word-ups.The rap-ups, the best of 2026.Yeah, word of the year.The first word of the year from Dictionary.com.Okay, nice.You know I'm an Oxford girl.
02:49Yeah, it has been released.We'll discuss that next.The Fletchborn and Haley, big pod.Dictionary.com has released there, word of the year.it's the 28th of October, we're already getting words of the year.This will have all the other dictionaries, your websters, your Macquarie,that'll be suffering in their jocks.Quickly, we're going to get it together.
03:08We can't use this one.They've bloody got it before us.Yeah, I wonder if they all have a little cordedal and decide.Yeah, where are you heading?Yeah, what are you going to do this year?I mean, the last few years, right, it's been very social media influence.We're never going to beat Macquarie's bachelor's handbag.Yeah, perfect.
03:26A few years back, that was an absolute winner.This word, though, I think they've hit it on the head this yearbecause this is a word that has been in the zeitgeist.We don't say we're doing more of something now.We say we're maxing.Oh, we're maxing.Looks maxing.Looks maxing.
03:42Sleep maxing.We're Merry maxing.Mary maxing this year.Yeah.Merry maxing.Yeah.I've been food maxing.Yeah.
03:53How's it?In the last week.That's where you eat a lot of.food, right? Yeah, yeah, but max.Max. I'm not overeating, it's calledfood max. Just getting as much as you can.Yeah, yeah. Somaxing is... What's its description?
04:06Because they always have asort of a funny description of a word.Yeah, because was it... But you just inherently knowwhat it means. So they do say that it's beenaround for, obviously, in various formsfor decades. Yeah. But it'sreally the phenomenon of looksmaxing that's made their word of the year.
04:22Taking a hammer to the jawline.And they reckon that the message board4chan is responsible for a vast amount of current slang, which is ooh.Oh.Very ooh.I mean, Reddit's bad enough, but 4chan is like...The pits.The pits of the internet.
04:38Yeah, and it's got its roots in the in-sale community as well.But I mean, maybe it's a controversial, but it's made it kind of mainstream.Yeah, yeah, yeah.So, yeah.I love that last year, the Miriam Webster word of the year was slop.Which was a great word.Which is such a great word.We all really summed up last year in a lot of AI slop.
04:57The first, Dictionary.com.Yep, okay.I'm just having a look.I was just seeing where we're at with, you know,because Oxford is my dictionary of Shoy.Yep.So I'm better than everyone.But, um...
05:08They haven't released it?They haven't released it.Collins?No, Collins.Macquarie.What are your other ones?Dictionary.com in early, actually.Yeah.
05:14It's in November.Well, so they say they talk about how they choose the word each year.The staffers investigate search trends,social media and the news.Yeah.And then they ask themselves what's telling the most compelling story of the year.Yeah, right.And for that, I reckon that's because so much of the look maxing has been in the documentaries
05:33like Louis Thoreau touched on it.Yes.And it's just been, you know, there's been so many influences in court as well.You can literally just say vibe code.So I'm just going to the past to look at the dictionary's other ones.Now you can use it for literally anything that you're doing.Sleep maxing.You love a sleep max.
05:51You love to sleep max.I like to icing max.When I have as much rice as you can.Slices and cupcakes and muffins.Scons, pinclets, we're buttermaxing.Yep.Jam maxing.When did we start doing words of the year?
06:05Do you think how far back does it go?Does it pre-doubt the internet?Because I reckon you just got the dictionary before the internet.2024, the winner was brat.Okay, the word of the year tradition, this is according to a quick search.According to a quick little search.A quick little search.started in 1971 in Germany.
06:28Oh.Well, the English language traditionbegan in 1990with the American Dialect Society.What was the word of the year?In 1990.1993.1990.
06:39Oh, this is good.Okay.Okay.The word...Apparently was inspired by Time Magazine'sPerson of the year.Right.So that's why they were like,
06:46well, let's do a word of the year.Cybersex was one of them.In 1993.In 2003.People were cyber sector.So apparently 2003,Miriam Webster started.That's when they started.
06:59And when you said 2003.Yeah, their one was democracy.Based on online dictionary.Democracy manifest.This is homocracy.Oxford languages.Oxford started theirs in 2004 with Shav.Chav?
07:15Chav.A chav.Like,I've got so safe and a tan.Dictionary.com started in 2010.Oh, late to the game there.Yeah.What was Oxford's Word of the Year in, I'm going to go, 2019.
07:29Great year.Great, yes, it's skinny.Climate emergency.Oh, okay.They often do a phrase.Take it back to 1997.Well, it might not have been there.Which one?
07:43Oxford Word of the Year in 1997.Stand by, sir.Friends.Because that's what Friends was big thing.They didn't select one until 2000.Oh, okay.You just told me1993.
07:56No, Oxford's 2004.90,Miriam Webster.They did a retro...Some lexographersat Oxford Universitydid a retrospective listYeah, okay.
08:09The most defining wordsof different years.So they did it retrospectively.In 1997 girl power.Spice girls.Yeah.And Diana ManiaPrincess.
08:20Yeah, well, she died in that.She died that year, yeah.Adoldess.Adult-Ecent, a blend of adult and adult-adolescentUsed to describe middle-aged individualsWho enthusiastically clung to youth culture, trends, fashion and video games.Amazing.Bridget Jones and Bigorexia
08:39To describe muscle dysphoria when people so like getting jacked on the royals and stuff.We should just do this for the whole show today.We should just do this for the whole show today.Big pot.From the Fletchhorn and Haley group chat,this is the top six.Hello.Top six signs that AI is a better friend to you
09:04than your actual friends as today's top six.As I said before,there's been a study that found 49% of AI usershad talked to AI as a friend.I mean, I'm friendly with mine.Do you have any friends, though, that are going, like,fall into it, like, they just keep,oh, AI says this, and I've got to do this,
09:21and someone was looking me like that the other day,I was like, dude, like put your phone down.Yeah.You need to just live a little bit more in the real world.My thing's always like, try maybe figure a few things out south and Simon, you know.I'll listen to a good podcast about it.You know what's his name, Mark Cuban, the billionaire, multi-billionaire business guy?Yeah.
09:40He was doing a diary of CEO and was talking about like, is AI smarter than us?He was like, God, no.Because AI is useless without the human brain to go, we get information, but it's the human brain that then needs to go,what are we doing?What do I do with that?How do I use this information?What's real, what's true.I use it heaps just in place of what used to be...
09:59You'd Google.Yeah.Like, how do I do this?What is this?I get to make spreadsheets.Yeah, God, I love...Budgets.It's good for that.
10:07It's harming off that shit.Until you go, where's that $1,000?And it's like, you got me there, actually.You're right.You're right. Oh, well caught, my friend.Well, I've got the top six signs.AI is a better friend to you than your actual friends.Number six on the list
10:23I don't see your friends helping your meal planningand giving you recipes and then giving you a shopping listin order of where to get it all in the supermarketbecause we think that you're perfect just the way that you areand you shouldn't meal plan you eat what you wantI need to be told what is it whatyeah it is a good useI don't ask what do I do for dinner anymore
10:41because I know these little recipesI've got a recipes projectget in there I want something like thisbut a little bit differentright is something a little differentnumber five on the list of thetop six signs AI is a bit of friend to you than your actual friends.I don't see you with your friends tab
10:57permanently open on your computer.I would say our tabs are pretty open all day.We've got our group chats on though.That's pretty open.I said it too open.Do you want to close that tab?Well, just every now and then I'll be like, we talk too much.I think maybe we should turn on disappearing messages again after 24 hours, guys.
11:17Yeah, that was a good time, eh, when you're like,oh, that's gone.and probably for the best.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Probably for the best.Number four on the list of speaking off.Top Sixth Signs AI is a better friend to you than your actual friends.Your mates are sick of hearing about your ex,
11:32but AI is on month 18 and still saying that sounds really hard.Tell me more.Yeah, true.It's a lot more understanding.It's worn thin with us.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Whereas like, I don't know.It's starting to feel like you are the problem born.
11:43It could be.But AI is never going to tell you that, is it?No, no, no, no, no.Number three on the list of the top six signs.AI is a bit of friend to you than your actual friends.It's the only friend that's never asked you to help move housebecause you've got a tow bar and come back a trailer.Yep.
11:59Yeah, it's fair, yeah.Yeah, no, that's fair.You sort of said, you were saying this isn't like from your perspective.Nah, it's not.Oh, okay.Important to remember, it's not.Number two on the list of the top six signs,AI is a bit of friend to you than your actual friends.
12:12When was the last time your friends wrote all your emails back to people for an entire day of work?Yeah, true.Just like, take care of all of this.Do it.Get it done.And number one of the list.It's number one that AI, you know, took you to Bali.It's not, actually.
12:28No.Because you were sad.Did AI?I don't remember the trip that AI took you on.No.I don't remember AI taking you to a water park with a lazy river.I actually don't remember that.I remember AI getting a bloody round of cocktails on the beach.
12:45No.No.But then that's tomorrow's top six.The top six.I like your actual friends are better than AI.Right.Yeah.Well, you're number one on the list of the top six times
12:53AIs are a bit of friend to you than your actual friends.Friends cancel at the last minute.AIs never once said, oh, sorry, I can't make it anymore.Yes, true, it's always there.Yeah, always there.But you're the friend that cancels at the last minute.You are.You are.
13:05It's self-reflective.Self-reflective.That's the top six.The Z&M Podcast Network.Now, the 26 times best inventions list has been released.Now, they obviously, they still have a paper magazine,and on the front was the Apple CEO John Terranus.He was on the cover.
13:24He just got rid of that other guy.Or he left.He resigned.Retired.Tim Cook.Yeah, yeah.Yeah.Yeah.
13:31He had his own.Yeah, yeah.I think he was like, I've got enough billions.He was ever since for ages.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I think I've scrimped enough coin to leave.Yeah.And have some nice holidays.
13:41So there's...He was CEO for 15 years.Yeah.From the time of...Jobs, Job's.Jobs.Steve Jobs.Steve Jobs.
13:50Jobs.Jobs.Jobs.Jobs.Job.Shut up, Job.Is he a homosexual?Who?
13:56Tim Cook.I don't know.I mean, Steve Jobs.I mean, that's a great question.Let me look, Tim Cook.Well, I like to know if my Apple CEO is a homosexuals.I'll go to is he a homo.com, show it.And you just put in the name.
14:10I'll put in Vaughn Smith.Is he a homo?Oh my God.This is a website we should launch.But what if they're by?That's homo, that's homo enough.It's half.Half.
14:23Kind of.You click a link and it's got a buy tab in it.And you put people in there.And all the website is, it just comes back with yes, no, kinder.Yes, no, a bit.In June 2014, Cook attended San Francisco's gay pride,along with a delegation of Apple staff.A few months later, Cook publicly came out as gay.
14:43Routly gay and considered being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.Oh, yeah, who don't know?I saw something yesterday.said coming out as gay is like putting life on technical colour.And you're like, yeah, everything's just brighter and better.Right, that's cool.That's good way looking at.So on this, well, I don't know if John, sorry, can you go on?
15:00Is he at Homo.com and find out of John Turner's.This is the new Apple.The new Apple CEO.He's on the cover of this special edition of Times magazine for the best inventions of 2026.300 inventions.I just made me think that, you know, the double income, no kids, the gays with the double income.Oh, the dinky gaze.He'd have some money.
15:20This Tim Cook.Oh, yeah.He's a cycling and car racing enthusiast.He does off-road, rally car racing.Oh, it's given big hetero.He races his Porsche.He is married with children.Two.
15:33Could be a man.Oh, yeah, that's true.I didn't know.The gays can get married, Vaughn.You know what I'm a gait's that.You know how I voted.He's not shared details about a sexual orientation or private life.See, that's a game.
15:48Tim Cook is worth $3 billion.Jesus.I'd be all right with that.I could make that work.I could make three bill work.It was a bit of smart planning.Well, there you go.If you're a hot twink, get in there.
15:59Yeah, Maine.Maine.Okay, so 300 inventions.Do they twink.com is my other one.No, just twink.You go in and you apply.Yeah.Am I twink enough?
16:12That's for your sort of like late 20-year-olds.Am I still twink?And you upload a photo?Am I still twink?And it's like, no or yes.It's like smile?Oh no.Well, gay dead is 25, so I rank my twink.
16:26Yeah, but at some 27-year-olds could still twink.Yeah.We'll see.With a lie here or there.Okay, 300 inventions, 100 special mentions.I've picked out some of my faves.That's what we were doing.Is he a homo?com's available.
16:39Am I buying it?No, that's the 2027.Is he a homo?That's the invention.We're coming up with that.It's the website that tells you whether or not they're a homosexual.It'll be an app.Okay, do you want, I've picked out a few that I enjoy.
16:53One iPhone duo is on here.The Apple CEO, he's on the cover, two iPhones and one, the duo.Mike got it yesterday.bizarre that like Samsung have had their one out, which is basically the same, right?A while and that's like the same thing.What side of the team are you on?I'm just saying.Can you also look up, is he a Samsung guy?
17:15So speaking of, the AI fridge, the Samsung.unsposedA.I. Family HubFridge.That was one of the best inventions236.Camera inside watches your food,tells you when it's going off,
17:25tells you what you're low on.Oh, that's good.I'd go hard on one of thosebecause like today I've got to go,I want to go grocery shoppingon the way home,but I didn't check.Yeah.
17:34You'd be able to look inside your fridge.Yeah.Is there a block of cheese in there?Do I have cheese?I've got some cheese.I know my cheese status.Does it tell you if the cheese is mouldy?It's got a camera.
17:44It's got a camera.Yes, you've got two tomatoesin there, homie.They've been there.while, honey.How much milk have I got?And is it homogenized.com?Is it homo?
17:54Is it homo?Is it homo?And you can put in milk as well.So,um,the brick,which was a gadget to make you get off your phone.Yes.
18:02Do you remember that?I do.Yeah.Um,Loop experience two earplugs.I've got these.They're amazing.They're the ones where you,
18:09you put them in and you can twist them around and they're great forconcerts.That was on the 2026 times best inventions.Would they be good for sleeping?Because I've got those custom molded ones.They won't be.that good. Oh, right, okay. But they filter noise more than block them out.On a robot phone, its camera pops out on a gimbal 360 degrees. On the phone.
18:28On a phone. The ultrasonic chef's knife cuts using ultrasonic vibration.Oh, that's insane. What's it called? Ultrasonic chef's nice.Yeah, but that just means it's going to cut the end of my finger off.No, it'll be like one of those, you know, when you're getting your car's taken off, you know, when you get a car.It stops.And it can't cut human skin because it's vibrating.It's not cutting.Yeah.
18:52So I wonder if it's the same.No, it'll still cut.Because how does it know the difference between a potato and your arm?It's 2026.This is about the best invention.About $400, those ultrasonic 8-inch chefs nice.Imagine getting a lovely sourdough from town, $10 getting a home.Nice little slice.
19:10It vibrates 30,000 times a second.And that's how it cuts through.Now, Halie, is it interested.$655 New Zealand dollars.I do apologize, it's 400.How interesting. How much a second?The other one was Tin Can's landline style phone, a retro style phone for the home.This was on the 2026 Best Inventures.
19:27And do you plug it into your cell phone.Oh, this was cool. I saw this. Yes, you do.The tactile sports tablet. Have you seen these?They're like little pads for people that are vision impaired.And you can use your hands and it follows a game by touch.So if you were blind and you were listening to a TV game, you'd be able to use this deviceand it would connect to the game using an ad.And your fingers can feel where the ball is going
19:52and where the players are going.That's amazing.I saw this.I saw a clip of it.It was like, how incredible.Anyway, there's 300 of them if you want to go check them out,including knives, fridges, the iPhone duo.And what kind of vibrator was it?
20:04You don't want to use the wrong end of this one, I'll tell you what.The ZN Podcast Network.whimsical badge that I've just been suggested.I hope this email finds youbefore I do. And it's a gooseholding a knife. Yeah, I lovea silly goose. You've been warned.What are you? A mum? With a fridge magnet?
20:40You've been worn. I would 100% have thatas a fridge magnet. I think it's only a pin.I could buy itand cut off the pin and put a magneton the back with some glue.And that would go on the fridge and look great.It is time for silly little poll.Today our question, do you vote early or
20:56do you vote on the day? Because you might have seen thethe vote now signs are up, the polling stations.I was at the supermarket yesterday out west and I was like, yeah.I could just pull up and get it done now, but I like the day.Because they've got them in some really easy locations like supermarkets and malls.I was right outside of Pakenzai.I was like, cool.They didn't.
21:15I love the festivity of the day.I get it out of the way.All right.Well, do you like to vote, when do you like to vote in the general election earlier on the day?On the day, 58%, 42% voting early.And then obviously there's some that just don't.Karen won't.That makes 100% right.
21:30So all of our listeners vote.Good.And if you're not enrolled, too lateand you have to shut up for a couple of years.Yeah.Three.Three years of shutting up.Page said, I'm getting married on election day this year
21:42so I won't be voting on election day.That's interesting.Getting married on election day.Also, congratulations.Orange.It's themed election.Yes.Yeah.
21:56And the celebrant is the,blobby election man.Election man, yeah, yeah.He's all an orange.What else does he do?He only gets wheeled out once every three.I know.Imagine having a voting booth at your wedding
22:08so that people could do it?And then like when your uncle,when your racist uncle votes,you kind of like,get grabbed that one and chucking up in.Yeah, yeah, get that.I can chuck that.That's election fraud.
22:18Is that election fraud?Yeah.Oh, well.Is that?Molly said, on the day is more whimsy.Oh, okay.She's finding whimsy in election day.Renee said it's the only time I get to go back inside my primary school hall.
22:33Oh, yes.Yeah.Amazing.She's dead right there.She's dead right.Lockland said, already done.Voting is the day after my birthday this year, so I'll be hung over and probably would have forgotten about it, so I've done it already.Yeah, good.
22:44Yeah, nice.Dan, my sister and I have plans to go to the voting place in Darwin this week.Oh, yeah.Oh, good I might.Dan's in Darwin.Well, Ken and Darwin.Kiwi living abroad.Because a lot of them are at the embassies, aren't they, or the Conno?
22:58Chilots.Yes.I don't know how my brother does it.He votes?Yeah, yeah.He man is a fiancé, both Kiwis.Oh, boy.Stacey said, I like it to feel like an event.
23:10So I vote on the day, wait in the lines, hope for a sticker.And then I'll watch the results on town.Oh, I love getting the sticker.They ran out last time.Oh, boy.I was real sad.I got a pen.You're not meant to take the pen, Haley.
23:22We've talked about this.Yeah, it was like a big orange pen.It was attached to a string and I was like,you think for my voting.Giff.It was like whenKing Arthur pulledExcalibur from the stone
23:32if you're strong enoughto remove the penit's your pen.You're the rightful airof the pen.Of Excalapen.Libby saidI would just like you to know
23:42I amI'm ableI'm just like you to knowthat I am unableto participate in thislittle publicbecause I'm only 16.Oh.
23:50Side note.Love the show so much.Well, thank you,will you be able to votenext election?Why think 16 year oldshould be able to vote?future. I know. No, I don't.
24:00They'll vote for bloody lollies or something.I would have voted for Gerard Way.You're telling me if there was lollies on, you wouldn't be voted for lollies?You'd vote for lollies. I would vote for Prime Minister Chuppa Chupp.Yeah. Oh my God, same. Prime Minister Fizzy Coke bottle.Oh, Prime Minister Jetplane, but only the green one.Oh my God, yes. Oh my God, yes.Yeah.
24:18The Minister of Finance Fruit Tube?Dude, I just got to say the Minister of Fruitbursts.Yes. So good.Usually, says Vicky, I vote on a leet.election day, but I've done it early this year.I have a baby that's due, and I don't knowwhen it wants to arrive, but I wouldn't want tomiss out on stretching my
24:35Democratic links.Voted yesterday, never been so excited to voteand, um...Oh, yeah, they sort of put it out there, this wasn'tjust kind of like go political one way or not.We're not telling you who to vote for.This is quite timely. I was just going down on Facebook tohave a look at our chat and it said
24:53people you may know.Shea from the office.Yep.Jono from Jono and Ben.Louis Swarbram.51 mutual friends.Right.51 mutual friends and you're not friends of her.
25:08Also,she just friend requested somebody on Facebook.Last week she said,who does friend requests on Facebook anymore?I'm not accepting,I'm not accepting new friends on Facebook.Chloe Swarbrook, she's getting a friend request.Oh, there's my therapist, Virginia.
25:21You can't Facebook,no therapist.Keep it separate.There's got to be a boundary there.Also, she'll see how much you drink.Oh, yeah, true.Keep it separate.That'll be a chat.
25:32What are you lying to another medical professionalabout how much you drink?I'm like to them all.The optometrists,the ear-nose and throat guy.He's like, I found his wine cork back here.Oh, God.Yeah, I'm saving it.
25:45I don't know.I've got a bottle of fizz in the fridge.Maybe get it out.When are you voting in the general electionist,a little poll?58% of you will be doing it on an election day.So it's always an exciting time of year when the Super Bowl halftime person is announced.Who was it last time?
26:07Oh.Who did do it last year?A sexy man.A sexy bad bunny.That's right.Was that last year?No, that was a year before.Was it this year?
26:18No, it wasn't.Yeah, it was the start of this year.It was the start of this year.That feels like four years ago.And Kendrick Lamar was before that.And people get being like,Brown on Brown?What?
26:31Is this a miracle?It's ridiculous.Well, they hate this.Jay-Z.Now, if you don't know this,Jay-Z as part is like the artistic directorof the Super Bowl halftime.He every year picks.
26:42He's the one.Yeah, who performs.Really?How did he get that job?From being Jay-Z.Right.Yeah.Because that count as one of his 99 problems.
26:50No, I think it would be one of the solutions.No, every year his problem is who is performing.Yeah.Half-time.And then the solution is one of them.comes when they perform.And the solution this year is me.Sometimes if you want a job done right,
27:04you can do it yourself.So I saw a rumor that was maybe a couple of weeks agothat was like, you know, rumor isJay-Z will be keeping the halftime Super Bowl showpretty close to home.I was like, Beyonce!Yeah.Here we go.
27:19Close at home.Closer to home.Himself.He said, when he looked at it,He was like, it makes the right sense, you know?But there were lots of rumours that it was going to be Justin Bieber.And then everyone was like, no.And then Miley Cyrus, that was like the huge one.
27:38Everyone was like, it's definitely Miley, new album.She's been doing a lot of marketing, kind of done a big rebrand of herself.I think she might have mentioned something.Everyone went like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.So no, that's, it's him.He's done from South.Surely him with a bunch of people, right?I just him.
27:55who he's collaborated with, Kanye, M&M.I don't think the notorious BIG can make it.No.Is he busy?Nas, Drake, Beyonce, Rihanna, Alicia Keys, Justin Timberlake, Farrell. So it would be a bit of, it would be a pretty cool throwback if he got like a whole bunch of those people.I'm hoping, Jayzee's an amazing artist.Yeah. And then he got Mary J. Blige and Snoop Dogg and like everyone that he's made famous. I wonder if they'll do the same with Jay Z. I mean, Jayzee's an amazing artist.But we get Lincoln Park up for a little bit numb encore.
28:27What a co-lab.Some of them.It's not the same.Well, no, they're still touring.They're still touring.Yeah, no, they're going.They're going.She's got some pipes on her.
28:35Yeah, there's no.People are saying the obvious guest choice would be for Beyonce to come out and join them for crazy and love,for Alicia Keys to come out for an impaste state of mind.Don't get paid?No, they don't get paid.For the half-time show.It's what you make as a result of being the half-show time person.You get a lot of exposure.
28:53Everyone's all interested in.Yeah.But then a lot of those artists.Rihanna umbrella?Yeah.Or like Eminem Rihanna,they don't need exposure all the money.Like, why would you bother?
29:03Yeah.I mean, it would be a serious favor for a friend, right?Yeah.So do you know, apparently he has talked about it before.But the NFL wanted him to bring Rihanna and Kanye along.And he was like, no, book me, not my guest list.Was his response.Oh.
29:18Oh, okay.So we're not.Okay, we're not getting that then.Kitty's got claws.I mean, I've not heard.Ramp me, meow.Kitty got claws.I hope he doesn't bring Arcana.
29:32I can't stand the guy.No.But everyone else, I'm like, how are you?Let's go.So you're on board with the R. Kelly work he did?Yeah, ma'am.Jeez, that the game.Gotcha.
29:42I mean, is Ignition a great song?It is a great song.Is it hard to skip when you're in the car?It is.Yeah.Anyway.Anyway.We wait until what?
29:53When is it?It?Feb, Jan, Feb?Feb.Fib.Round Valentine's Day.Okay.It's on Feb 14th.
30:00Valentine's Day.J-Z. Half-time show.Play Z-M's Flesh, Forun and Haley.Now, it is Wednesday, which means it's hump day.New episode of Sex.Life dropped two hours ago joining us, Morgan Penn.Hello, darling.Oh, good morning, my love.
30:14How are you feeling today?Well, I thought I was going to feel vulnerable, but actually I feel really empowered today.Yeah, good.So episode three of season.for, I just looked before I was like,yes, new episode. And then I was like,oh yes, this one isit is intense.
30:31We took two and a halfhours to record this.Oh, wow. It's not two and a half hourslong. It's had a deep edit.But it was a full on episode,wasn't it, Morgs? Yeah,it's a big piece of my personalhistory that I haven't really shared in
30:47depth before, but I think what'sempowering about it is thatif you are a person that has a womb and that can get pregnant,then we have to be really aware of reproductive rights for women.And we all run the gauntlet of getting pregnant,and sometimes things like that happen when you don't plan to.And we need to just talk about it in a really normal waybecause it's part of life.
31:14Yeah, this episode has like a little bit of everything.It is, we definitely laugh a lot while we were recording it.Probably a bit more crying and, yeah, it's definitely an intense listen,but I think it's one of the best episodes we've ever made.Yeah, I think as well there's an element of a really toxic relationship that I share aboutthat for legal reasons I haven't actually been able to go into before.But I think it's really easy to find yourself in a toxic relationship and not realize.and so I hope that this is really helpful for some people.
31:51Yeah.Can I ask you, I feel this season more than ever,you've looked across the table and said,so for legal reasons,has there been backlash to seasons one through three, Morgan?Yeah, you wouldn't believe it.Quite a few threats of legal cases.But it's funny, because you know what?
32:16Legal stuff's quite old school,so there's a lot of technicalitiesyou can get around.You can still tell the things about telling the thing.Yeah, you're allowed to tell your story, for sure.Yeah.Can I just, I'm not, not to jump here,definitely check out the episode.
32:30It's an amazing listen.And yeah, I think a lot of people will relate to itand hear a lot of themselves in itand have had similar experiences.But can I talk to you a little bit about it?Because we record a head.And yesterday we get home play.every week.
32:48And sometimes it can be something that you, you know,it's something from the heart or something from the head or something physical.I'm not going to give it away,but Morgan gave me home play yesterday, eh, Morgan?Oh, yes, I did.Did you take it home?I did take it home, and I had left it,which is something that you would really want to have a good sturdy door for.
33:12Oh, my goodness.What is that thing here?You wouldn't want to hang this thing.from a thin, you know, new-bird...Right. Door.Hollow door.Okay.You were a solid, Cody.
33:27Right.Yeah.Anyway, Morgs, I'd had this thingand I'd completely forgotten.And when I get home,I dump everything on my deck table outside.And then I, you know, start moving things in and out of the house.And my sparky came over yesterday.
33:43Oh, geez.And this...Adult toy.That box is really graphic, by the way.Yeah, right, okay.We're sat on the table and was acknowledged.Right.Yeah, listen, there are episodes like this.
34:00Did he help you install it or is that it?Does it need wiring?I did sort of think, you know, could we get a build around here and get some hard points on this thing, you know?Right, okay.Anyway.But listen, this is what I love about our podcast, Morgzzi, is that we have so much fun.It's very sexy.It's very, you know, the episodes coming up are.
34:17very silly and joyful.But today's episode is a bit heavierand it's so valuable.And I just want to thank you again, Morgan, for sharing everything that you do.Oh, well, thank you for holding me in it.And there is still a lot of giggles and weirdness in this episode.So don't be put off by that.No, no, no.
34:33You can always guarantee giggles and weirdness from us.Well, check it out wherever you podcast, the I-heart amp, Spotify, Apple, wherever.Yeah, it's episode three of season four of sex.Morgsy, thank you so much.You're welcome.See you.The Demand Podcast Network.Over the Christmas break, when we're away for four weeks,
34:50we always have a tradition of recording a podcast every day over some cocktails.We'll never abandon you.I have noticed that our recording date is a Monday this year.Well, that's not boating.That's not boating.No, that's on Vaughn, actually.No.For getting divorced.
35:07Oh, yeah, yeah, true.You're bastard.Actually.Because you're only available dates.Well, yeah.Yeah.No, we wanted to do it on a weekend.and we had a weekend that we could do
35:17and you couldn't.So I'm sorry, it's actually put it on everyone.Don't even look at Mike Allen.Well, I said we shouldn't record podcasts.I'll go on record.Well, Vaughn doesn't like working, is illusion.But then we're on holiday.What, we have to do our work before we go on holiday?
35:30That's not going on holiday.That's bullshit.I know, but without these listeners,this is really narcissistic,us just talking to ourselves.It really is embarrassing.It's traditional and we do love it.We do have fun.
35:41We make a variety of comptales.And we take your suggestionsin this year.over a couple of cocktails, each day we're going to record a hot topic.A hot topic.You can just suggest anything.Tell us about, you know, a little bit about yourself and anything you want us to talk about.Some gossip.
35:57A topic.Leather, cords.I'm just looking around.Anything in the world.So if you got a Zetim online, tell us your details where you're listening from and your hot topics.We could be discussing your hot topics over the Christmas break.While we're taking care of a little bit of show admin,I will point you to
36:18Googling the following keywords.Okay, yeah, yeah, absolutely.Yep, FVH, yeah, space, live.Yep, live.Tea towels.Now you might have thought there for a moment.FVH live, it's happened.Are you doing it again?
36:32No, because you'll see previous statementabout doing work.This has actually taken me the first linkahead of ZEM onlineis the alternative commentary.Well, no, because we're using their store to sell them.Rather than setting up our own,online store. The ACC already sells stuff so we're like, we'll sell it through their store.
36:50Now, we've got to sell some of these details.Now, so what's happened is Vaughn was in charge of ordering merchandise for the live shows,and instead of ordering 100 teetals, pre-stained, it's a graphic of these stains of the show.You ordered a thousand.Yeah.So we've got excess.We sold so many tickets to the show.We're going to have to, like, we might have to donate some to like, I don't know.
37:11Animal shelters.Animal shouts.Animal shouts.Or what about if we head up Zambizzi or Karen or someone and be like,do you want to, you know, get a frock?We could get three outfits for next-use radio awards.Made out of the custom suits.No, this is not a breathy tea towel.
37:25I think we'll have very sweaty bits.A bit.Well, you can purchase your own flesh, Vaughan and Haley pre-stained teetail.It says here, once they're gone, they're gone.But they're not gone.So if you could make them gone so that there's not this whole.Oh, they can't whisper in so much money, Vaughn.That's why you've got to do podcasts over summer.
37:45It's kind of funny that Vaughan has kind of cost the company money.Again.Again.Again.Yeah.Almost costing more than he makes.I'll just say that.It's kind of a while.
37:57Just keeping my head above water there.Just keep in my head above water.If you get another sponsor for Fact of the Day, that'd be great.Play ZM.Fletch for him.Zaharra Larson on ZM, who she was seen as purchasing a finger bunin a cinnamon, no, a cheesy mite.Cheesy mite scroll.
38:16From Baker's Delight in Australia.In a finger bun.In Australia?At Baker's Delight, like, I'm sorry, but like...I was Australia?I thought it was Baker's Delight in New Zealand.I was like, hot.No, in Melbourne.
38:28She went to Melbourne after Auckland.Okay, she was seen at the Pine Shopping Centre in Doncaster,the Big Westfields there.The Pines, yeah.Yeah, and the Pines.Is that the one that Kath and Kim went to?Oh, love, we've got to go to Ponds.I don't know.
38:41I can't remember.Yeah, no, but she's all over.And everyone's just like, you went to Baker's Delight?Okay.Okay, Baker's Delight or...The Cheesy mite scrolls are...Yeah, they slapped.They slapped.
38:51They slapped.Because you remember we had...We used to have one by our old work and we got quite fat, didn't we?Big Boys.Lots of carbohydrates in that one.Yeah, that would kill me.What's the one with icing?The Chelsea Bum.
39:00Yeah, yeah.I get a Chelsea bun and a cheesy mite.It's carbs on carbs.Daily Chelsea bun.Baker's Delight or Muffin Break?Baker's Delight.Baker's Delight or Hollywood Bakery.Hollywood Bakery.
39:10Hollywood Bakery.to do a slap in sausage roll.Okay, Hollywood Bakery or just your localbakery? Local bakery. Local bakery.Yeah. Okay. Local bakery or Baker's Delight?Local bakery.Yeah.They're all delicious, let's be honest. They're all delicious.
39:27I actually, I'm in the mood for a Mints and Cheese today.I was in the mood for a double happy. You know those sausage rolls that are twice asfat as fast as a lot? Yeah, yeah, slacks.What an XXL?Yeah, don't think. I'm a girth queen.Remember when we got depressed last year and we got real Thinvorn?Yeah.That's not happening anymore.
39:42Well, no, because you're in love.Happy and in love and getting junkie.Now, I want to know what is the naughty thing you've gotten away with recently.Now, yesterday I went to therapy in the afternoon.More on that later.Yes, by the way, Haley, you know, we had a question that Haley could squeeze into the end of therapy.You did it.Yeah, we yesterday were discussed.
40:04I'll give you the context later, but we were discussing something.We're like, what's the psychology behind that?And I was like, mate, this might be the sort of a new segment where I,I generously give five minutes of my therapy sessionto a question from the show or a question for the boys or whatever.And I have an answer for you.That's at 9 o'clock.But in my therapy session,
40:24I was running a little bit late because we were recording an episode of Sex Dot Life in here.And I was like, well, it's just up the road.Get my car, fang it up there.And I see a parking spot right outside.It's on College Hill in Auckland.Perfect.Not a lot of car parks there.And I was like, perfect.
40:38Pull up behind this nice car.Boot.Get in.Great therapy.Look at me.Have you clocked therapy like Vaughn?Remember when you clonked therapy and then you had it?I only clocked one type of therapy.
40:48It turns out there's multiple types of therapy.No, because any way back to see my therapist and she was like,you are so far from clocking this.You're so far from clocking this, she asked me how you are every week.Yeah.Do you say too poor for therapy?Yeah, I said he's too poor.And desperate need, but too poor?
41:03Yeah, yeah, yeah.Does she ask about me?Yeah, how's that guy with zero stress in his life going?How's that guy who just travels and bangs?No, no, no, she was on, I'll tell you off of you what she was, why you came up in the chat.Oh, in trouble.No, no, no, no, we were celebrating you in your lifestyle.Anyway, um...
41:25Son of a bitch.Well, that makes it sound bad.Okay.No, no, no, it was good, it was good.Anyway, so we're, great session, and then I left.And when I came out to get into my car, that's when I noticed, that whole hour, I just straight up parked across someone's driveway.Like, in the...Wow.
41:39And not, like, sort of nose or tail.The full length of my...car covered the full width of theirdriveway. So obviously there were no like brokenyellow lines. No, no, it's justa weird parking area and there'sgusherbits and then there's driveways. You know?
41:55It's like, it's a mix of businesses andhomes up where she is.And I just didn't...Was it a business or a home you parked?Home. Oh, see, it's probably lucky. They might have beenaway at work or something. Yeah, maybe.But I just got away with it. I was like,hell!
42:10If someone, they could have told me.The council could have ticked it.did you told you?Yeah, maybe.But the owner didn't.Yeah.And I was like,got away with that, didn't I?
42:19Hewned off.You know, the park was great.I wasn't looking for a park.And then I was like,I want to know,these little, like, naughty thingsthat you got away with.Maybe you didn't even notice
42:27that you'd done it.Okay.You got away with that.Well, like, accidentally stealing something,like that time you stole an avocadobecause I was in your pocket.In your pocket.I almost stole yesterday.
42:36Accidentally.Accidentally.Yeah.Accidentally.I had my hands full.So I had my hands full.So I put things in my pocketsand then got to the till, forgot.
42:42And I was like, oh, excuse me, she was just about to wrung it up.Oh, my gosh.She said, did you find everything you needed today?And I was like, oh, I forgot I got something in my pocket.But maybe, I mean, maybe it was.And pulled out a mince pack out of your hoodie.Yeah, yeah.Yeah, got it to defrost it all through the blood, it all through.
42:55The chicken juice.But maybe it was, like, accidental.Like, you didn't mean to steal something.You didn't mean to park across someone's driveway like us.Or maybe it was like.Didn't mean to kill someone.Yeah, yeah, yeah.I don't keep that one to yourself.
43:06Have you got away with it this long.Yeah.Don't please don't ring us.We don't want to be involved.But maybe you have also actively been doing something naughtyand getting away with that.Like chiving off.Cheating.
43:16Skiving off.You know?Skyving off of work and being like,oh yeah, I'm seeing a client.No, I'm not.Well, whatever it is, 0800 dials at M,give us a call, text through 9-696.Not, what naughty thing have you gotten away with recently?
43:28We want to know what naughty thinghave you gotten away with recently.Maybe it was accidental or intentional.Yesterday parked for an hour over someone's driveway.Accidentally?Accidentally.I thought it was a park and then got away with it.Well, I've still got my car.
43:42Put it that way.A lot of people are accidentally stealing,accidentally stole gas.Filled up.No, you'll get pinged for that.You don't get away with that.I remember, yeah, well, Carwin got pinged for thatand she actually paid for it gas.
43:56That's right.It's a bit of an era.But yeah, they get you.Accidentally stole gas filled up,went in to get a drink and a little snack.Paid for those and left.Didn't even realize until I got the letter from Z with a photo of my car.Yes, yes.
44:07Yeah.I bet that happens all the time, though.That's why they always say, did you get fuel as well?Yeah, yeah, yeah.Is there any fuel out there?Of course I do.I accidentally stole a cucumber once.And I was in an underground car park.
44:21I ran back up to custom service to pay.And she was like, you should have just taken it.That's $2.9.It wasn't worth your time coming back.No.Honesty, though.You can't put a price on a clear conscience.Yeah.
44:31Yeah.Because you'll always be looking over your shoulder.Like, when are they coming at me for the cucumber?Heaps of super.Supermarkets still do the like, do you know this mongrel?It's like a, you know, CCTV footage of someone in it.What if it was you?But also, a lot of the supermarkets now have facial recognition technology,
44:48and if they see you stealing something, you're marked, your face is there.Isn't it on the system?I want to be marked, I'm getting a hot chock when I want one.Chris, what did you accidentally do lately?Well, on purpose, I would say, but I usually take the T2 lane to get onto the motorway.It saves me like a 10 to 15 minute commute, honestly.Chris, Chris, is the T2 lane.Are you a single person in a car?
45:10I try and have a second passenger,but sometimes they don't always make it long.Chris, they take photos, don't they do?They do, they take photos.Identifies whether or not there's two bodies in there?Not on this specific one.I haven't seen one.They don't tell us which line this is.
45:26Do you remember when they used to pay those guyswith tripods and big handy cams?Yeah.And now it's all just like cameras from above, yeah.But it makes such a difference, hey, Chris?Like every time I realize I've got a passengerI'm like, oh my God, here we go.And it's crazy because I'm sure there used to be T3s.
45:43And there are still some T3s.There's some, but now there are T3s.And when you go in the T2 lane,like I've got the kids in the car,I do feel a bit holier than thou.I had a body in the boot once and got a ticket for a T1.Oh, that's T2 because I was a one.Yeah.
45:55But I gave them a photo of the person in the boot.And they waved it.And of course, that letter that the person wrote saying this is all part of our,you know, kink.I chucked myself in the boat,gag in the mouth.Chris, you're not going to get away with this for long.Look, beanie on the passenger seat always does wonders.
46:12That's for all.Somebody used to put a T-shirt on their passenger's seatand get away with the T-2.That's good.That's good.Yeah, that's good.And people have been, there's been numerous news stories over the years of peopleusing like inflatable dolls.
46:24Yes.As passengers as well.Yeah, Chris, go into a sex shop and get one of those blow-up dolls.Put a t-shirt on her.Yeah, great.No, we're not encouraging boobs.No, no, no.Get a t-shirt on her.
46:36And she'll just look constantly shocked at the state of traffic.Oh.Look how fast we're going, Chris.She's like, mouth over there you're driving.Legs up on the dashboard.Chris, thank you.Just some hot tips for Chris there.Whistling because the window's down?
46:55Should we give Chris Culler of the week?I love that.That really tickled me.That really tickled me.Chris, we're going to hook up with the chemist warehouse prize pack.That's what the guy on your back said, wasn't it?Oh, legend.Thank you, team.
47:06You can probably get yourself a hat from there.Yes, awesome.Lipsick for your doll.For your fake T2 passenger.I'd take the live size Matilda Rice.Yeah, home of the...Oh, yeah, you could actually.You could ask them if...
47:19Or a cardboard, Dan Carter.When they're getting a new...If you could have the old Dan Carter.Yeah, that...Oh, absolutely.Dan Carter's got to make the trips with me in the morning.Yeah.But, hey.
47:27Please put the seatbelt on, Dan.Yeah, and put a tuition on it.He's a national treasure.Thanks to Kimas Warehouse,home of the biggest brands at the lowest prices.My friend and I went out for an entire meal and drinks,and about four hours got pretty drunkand then just walked out and left because we forgot,
47:41and we got home and we were like, did you pay?Oh shit, you got home.How much do I owe you?I got chased out once because I'd forgotten.We're walking down the street and that excuse me.I was like, oh my God, I'm not doing a runner.It's hard though because some places, breakfast you pay before,some you pay after some at your QR code.
47:57Tamsins called up.Tamsin.What did you get away with lately?Well, I didn't get away with that,but when I was a teenagerand, well, my mom was a bit strict,I wasn't allowed to shave my legs,so I was obviously admiring a razor in farmers
48:11and I walked out the door with it by accident,realized down the road I panickedand I ran back and threw it through it through the electric doors.Through it?Just hift it back.Just throw the razor through the electric doors.That's amazing.I didn't steal, but I'm not putting it back.
48:25I always like, because when you see the scannersor the security things and you walk out of the store,do I accidentally have anything?I always panic.Yeah, me too.I'm always just like, that I've just like picked up something and walked out.But maybe sometimes it doesn't, because I've done the same Tamsan,walked out with a fake tan in my hand once.
48:40And then came back to farmers and I think I just put it down somewhere.So I just was like, I don't want to be recognized.I'm throwing this thing.Yeah.Did you start shoving your legs eventually?Yeah, Mama caught me too.Yeah, mine too.Underarms.
48:53Shave the underarms?Yeah, started that early.Yeah, early.Yeah, yeah.Tansan?Or have you taken care of that with some allotrolysis?Oh, being taken care of.Yeah, I've laser this one.
49:05As long as you're happy, actually, I don't mind a bit of underarm here on.No, see, I'm gutted. I, I lasered mine, and then I tried to grow it out in a hot way, and it'sfluffy patch. Yeah, it's not.Okay. Thanks, Tamson.So many naughty messages.I've got stopped by a cop for not stopping at a stop sign in Morinsville.They have a million of these bloody things.I told the cop I was new to town, even though I'd live there for six years.
49:25I got away with it because of my accent.Oh, okay.I don't think Morinsville has a disproportionate amount of stops.No, I don't think it does either.We yell, we give way.Backed into my mum's gate, broke two of the wooden panels.I pushed them back to look averagely normal and I just left it.My mum's same day did the same thing.
49:45She blamed herself.Look at that, I've bloody broken the fence.I never told her it was me.Love breaking something and piecing it back together so somebody else thinks they broke it.Yeah, perfect.That's good stuff.ZN podcast network.Do people get dressed up for Harry Styles?
49:58Yeah.Do you?Have you organised your art for flat?No.Grey Ture?Just a grey ture shirt.Just that.Just that.
50:04Great Ture shirt.Are you going to compare thatwith your sort of grey blue cap?Yep.Wow.Just a standard grey.Look there.Yeah.
50:12Shut up.Well, people have named the sexiest man alive for 2026.And it's from the pit.No while.Do you say Wiley or Wile?I say Wiley.It's not Wile.Yeah.
50:24Wow.He's not Wiley Coyote.I'd say Wiley Coyote, but the E comes from Wiley's Idle initial.He's won the Emmy.last two years straightthis show has cleaned up the awardsit's an incredible show if you haven't seen itthe pit
50:38it's on HBO in his sexiest manphoto shirt he's wearing a denimover shirt over a denim shirtwith blue denim jeans like it's denimactually that's triple denim and all bluehe looks hot in those photosit's not my cup of tea he also has a similarface to my grandfather which is maybe turning me off
50:56right but in the showelongated long faceI mean in the show and a lot of the photosthat have come out for the show, he plays a disheveled,overworked, ER doctor.Yeah.Which in itself is hot.Yeah, exactly.
51:08Do you notice something else about this sexy photo shoot?What?What car's he's sitting on?Oh, it's a Land Rover, is it?He's sitting in a vintage Land Rover.Yeah.I'm just going to have a little...He's got a dog and a beard.
51:19I mean, I'm just saying the similarities between...Yeah.I mean, he's a handsome man.He's handsome, but I think it's not...It's not your cup of tea.Who was it last year, Jonathan Bailey?Was that it?that one.
51:32Jesus Christ!How does the arm divide into compartmentalized muscles like that?We've got a coffee shop outside the studio and I will say it's been the worst installationfor the distraction in studio.The calves on that thing.They sort of specialize in shakes and such for gym goers and there's a lesbian mills over the road.That's not short for lesbian.We've got to move studios.
51:59Leslie.Leslie Mills is short for.So here's the snubs for sexiest man alive.Ryan Gosling.He's won it before, surely.Has he never won it?These guys have never won people's sexiest man alive.Go.
52:14Ryan Gosling, Keanu Reeves, Pedro Pascal, Oscar Isaac, Jason Mamor?What are we doing?Henry Cavill.Henry Cavill?He's never won?What are we doing?Well, maybe you need to be on the board.Jacob, Lorde, Austin Butler, Glenn Powell.
52:29They're getting to the younger ones.Shalalalal la la la la me.But it's more about just pure sex in us, right?There's always something a little bit more.Jonathan Bailey was...No, you're right.Ryan Gosling and Jason Mamora mingers.You're right.
52:46Henry Cavill is a pig to look at.Yeah, that pig could snuffle my truffle.The ZM Podcast Network.Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley.Now, listen, let me...I need to dance around this a bitbecause it is about my boyfriend.friend Mike's birthday present. His birthday is
53:02the second of December. I gave myself plentyof time. See the second of December? Yeah.It's Britney Spears's birthday. He knows.He's my friend Johnny's birthday. I was going to sayhow do you know that? He or wheneverI forget his birthday, he'll be like, it's the, he's, it'sBritney Spears's birthday. Oh, the second of December.Yeah, of course. Of course. I think you
53:18just knew that if you'rearound my age. You just knew thatbecause she was around my age.No, you don't know when celebritiesbirthdays are, unless her on your birthday.Yeah, maybe that's, because it wasReverend Cara'sat high school
53:32and Britney Spears's birthdayand Johnny's birthdayMike's birthdayGod, December 2nd isreally loading upIt really isNot all these peopleare getting presents
53:41So you would think thatordering a presentIt's a very specific presentIt's very nerd baseAnd it's very expensiveRightIt's about BatmanAnd that's all I can say
53:51I knowI like himOkaySoLove is disgustingIt's disgustingIt's disgustingand expensive
54:00It's so disgusting and expensive.Here we are.Yeah.So you can't get this thing in New Zealandand really the best way to get it is on eBayfrom like respected sellers.Oh, okay.Of these things.
54:16Yeah, craft.Yeah.Oh no, it's Etsy that's crafts.No, no, no, no.eBay, geez, I haven't heard that for a while.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Can you turn off the mics and I'm just going to tell them what it is.Okay, okay.
54:29The Batman.That was lucky.The latest.Sick.Okay.So, this thing I want you to know is very expensive.Okay.So I go on, I buy this thing, respected seller, good feedback.
54:48I bought this on the 8th of August.Jeez, okay.It's November.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's November this weekend.I got no communication.Yeah.And I transferred that money.
55:01Oh, for crying.out loud. Here we go again. Now eBay does protect you. So you get something like two months orwhatever it is. And then if it hasn't arrived, you get the, there's this money back guarantee. Sohopefully I should be all right. But that day is today. And I've been messaging this person being like,hey, just want to, you know, I paid 70 US dollars for shipping back in August. And I said,I haven't heard anything. I'm not, I'm in the delivery window only for two.more weeks before I have to get a refund from eBay.He says, hello, my friend.
55:37It is sent. We will provide you with the tracking number shortly.When did he say that?September the 8th.Oh, for crying out loud, Haley.I'm just rocking 28th of October?Yes.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.At time of record.
55:53So, October 22nd.So I left this another, like, six weeks.I was like, where's my tracking number, bro?Like, where is it at?It's taken months.and I'm days away from the cutoff.He says, hello, my friend.Please do not worry.
56:08Here is your tracking number.It is the most bizarre number.I put this thing into Google.It does not connect to any shipping.Oh, Haley.How many stars did this guy have on eBay?Many.I don't know.
56:21Anyway, so I put this in.And then a few days ago, I say,what company was this sent from?Tomorrow's the cutoff date.And I said,And yeah, so I said that and he said, hello, my friend.Tracking number.New tracking number.
56:39Oh, a new tracking number.Completely different.Oh, okay, wow.Please wait.Because if eBay gives me the money back, he gets none of it, right?Yeah.Please wait.Wait for five to seven days.
56:49Rest assured it will not expire.When did he say this?On the 25th, so three days ago.Okay.And then do not hesitate.Thank you.Thank you.Then he messages back.
57:01Hello, my friend.Oh, I'm my friends.Oh, okay.The first time we sent it by regular mail,we have switched to fast shipping.And I said, what do you mean you've switched to fast shipping?That's not how shipping works.Was it returned back to you and you've rescinded it?
57:16You paid $75 for fast shipping?Yeah.And what, he got it back after he sent it?Like, Haley, what are you doing?And I said, this doesn't make sense.And then he sends me a new number.No comment.I put it back.
57:29It hasn't left China.This one doesn't actually pertain to a thing.Okay, let's, but a company that you recognise or a shipping?It's just a seller.Oh, no, no, the company I don't recognise at all.Have you Googled to see if it's a, okay, dear listener, if you're listening,9-6-9-6.Scam on a scam.
57:44Is Haley being scammed yes or no?Yeah.Because, Haley, you have got to say you've got to reply.Today's your last day for a refund, money back.Today's the day I can apply for it.You've got to apply.But then I don't get the thing and I can't get it in New Zealand.It's a scam, Haley.
57:58Am I being scared?9-6-9-6, please is open the text machine.Oh, Haley, yes.How do you keep doing this?Yes.She gets excited.Scam.Well, I just went to a seller that was selling these things, these nerd things.
58:12Scammed and he's just trying to get you outside of the refund window.Okay, yes, okay.Okay.Right.Why?So with Mike's listening, you're getting nothing for your birthday.Why are the listeners that you don't know saying this and you're believing them?Scam.
58:24Scam.Scam.And when Vaughn and I say it, you're like, oh, it doesn't.Well, because I wanted it so much to be true.And he keeps calling me his friend.You know, if he was scam.me wouldn't call me a friend.Hayley, yes.
58:35I worry about you in your old age.You're going to be parted with your money so easily.What happens now if you say, like right now you click,you go, because I've gone through eBay,not some random website.Yeah.They have a guarantee.I'll get my money back.
58:50Okay, do it.And then it's their issue.Because if it's still on its way,you get it.You get it.Although they can probably get it redirected,but that's on them.They took two months, Haley.
58:59Nearly three.And you paid $75 for it.This doesn't exactly.Yeah, this doesn't exist.Somebody said, Haley needs to speak with age concern.And get some scam support.Somebody said any time you get called my friend, scam.Scam.
59:14Scam.Why would someone scamming me refer to me as a friend?Somebody said you shouldn't be in charge of your own finances.What are Britney Spears?What was speaking of?It's her birthday on the 2nd December.We might need a conservatorship.A conservatorship.
59:28For Haley.I think we put her in a legal conservatorship.My mum just message meHello my friendAre you thick?Are you thick exactlyExactlyI think
59:40Vaughan and I will talk to Patsy your mumAnd get some kind of conservatorshipOr maybe we take over your accountsIndia said girl please would you believe in Nigerian prince tooDon't talk about my husband like thatThat's my boyfriendThat's my boyfriendHe does
59:53Oh my GodHe is trying to get to New ZealandWhat are you going to do right nowI'm going to message eBay and say it hasn't arrivedYes and get your money backChrist, we've just saved you a lot of money.Did you ever take lollies from a stranger in the parkwho had puppies in their van?
01:00:07Oh, I'm not going to take lollies.Free and a handful of dogs?Lollies and puppies, I'll say no to that.I mean, idiot.Oh, God, guys.Thank God for you.Historically, what's your favourite?Um, oh, it's such a good question.
01:00:25The black guy, P's would have had a couple of them.Yep.My humps.Mine is white loaders.You've been working on your tongue dexterity?He has, isn't, because he's not a tongue.I can't do that South American.When they do their ars, they go.
01:00:40Arriba.Rio deition.I'm terrible at it.You're getting better though.That was a rhodeuthr.You've got to practice the White Lotus.Yes, that's maybe how you got better at it.It might be.
01:00:52Still my ringtone on my phone, actually.Now, Halloween is not too.If anybody ever turns on their ringtone ever again.Yeah, no, mine's never wrong.I don't even know what my ringtone is.It's a silent vibrate.That's so funny you say that because mine will only ring if it's accidentally on.What is it?
01:01:07Because of my watch and stuff?Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yeah.Now, Halloween just days away.29th.Saturday.Saturday.I'm going to a big dress-up party.
01:01:17Oh, yeah?Should be fun.Yeah.What kind of dress-up party?One we don't wear much.Oh, okay.I was wondering why we hadn't been invited.I was like, what friends of us having a Halloween party?
01:01:30Yeah, one where we're having a Halloween party.Yeah, one where they don't wear.There's, yeah.Okay, interesting.Lots going on.Okay, well, Friday we're celebrating at work.Yeah.Okay, so we've been told that we must res up.
01:01:42Well, what's...Now, that feels against my human rights.To be for us.Yeah.It feels like forced Christian fun.Yeah, right.To keep our minds off, you know, sex drugs and rock and roll.Yeah.
01:01:53So we've got to come up with a costume,and it turns out that this Halloween,the sexy costumes are out, by the way.Sexy costume searches have dropped 74% in the UK.I want to be a slutty mouse.A slutty mouse.But that was from Mean Girls, wasn't she?When Amanda St. Freight's character, she's like, they're like, what are you?
01:02:12And she's like, a mouse, duh, and like points to her little ears.And that's it.But she's more, more, I'm looking at a picture of it right now.It looks like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.The main one was the bunny.Yeah.She was a, the other one was a sexy mouse.So.
01:02:27This is what Halloween has been for, like, the last,20 yearswas like a chance todress sexy and be like,I'm a scary sex ghost.So we're not doing that.Scary sex ghost.74%.
01:02:41They've dropped 74%from 1 in 6 Halloween costume searchesin 2007 to 1 in 24.Oh wow.Currently. Sexy nurse down 49%.No. An iconic legend.Sexy angeldown 58%.
01:02:57Do you know what I saw people are doing moreis like humor-based orsocial commentary.And this is what I'm thinking, because we're going to get dressed up on Friday.I want to go as Elizabeth Holmes.Why would I deceive you?Oh, yeah.From the whole, well, she kind of scammed people out of a lot of money,
01:03:15but that documentary with Nathan Fielder comes out.I've got a little wig at home and do a low bun.I don't have any costumes.Why don't you wear the costume that we wore in that costume?But we could wear our couples outfit.It would be appropriate.No.There were no photos at that party for a reason, Haley.
01:03:28Yeah, very true.They're all got a lot of trouble.So camp costumes based on viral moments.Apparently lots of people going as the Limes from Dakota Johnson's house tour.Oh, yeah.She said she loves having a bowl of lines.Brilliant.I saw someone in America got dressed up as one of Cynthia Arevo's acrylic nails.
01:03:45And they were like, I love gay Halloween because, yes, I am looking at a person dressed up as Cynthia Revo's acrylic nail.So we're not going to sexy this Halloween.What do you?It's got to be something work appropriate.I can't wear my Saturday.Well, we've got about to wear headphones as well.Yeah, so it can't be too hat-based or mask-based.Might just bring a pumpkin and put it next to me.
01:04:06Oh, no, you've got to get involved.What are you dressed as?A pumpkin farmer.Yeah.There you go, done.Sick.That's the minimal effort I will go to.Last year, didn't Brian Clint get dressed up as us?
01:04:19Yes, they did very well.Yeah, wondering why, yeah.Sorry, Clint wore some panty hose and drew,imprinted the tattoo of you.That's right.And stuck it on his leg.That was good.Yeah.
01:04:31Okay, we need to brainstorm this because it's literally a couple of days away and I'm busy.I've got wigs and things.I can bring in some options.Just bring in some wigs.Just some wigs.And they'll say, I'll say, I'll say on someone.Play ZM's Flash for an inhalate.Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
01:04:51Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.Do do.Oh, yeah.It's amusement ride week all this week here at Friday.Oh, yep.Today I want to tell you about George Ferris.Oh, of the Ferris Wheel or Bueller's Day Out.Yeah, that's a hell of a good movie.
01:05:20Ferris Bueller's Day Out.Could be, could be due.Wait, off or out?Out.Just for the Day Out.Great movie.Watch it.Really kept.
01:05:28at the moment. Well, no, not that Ferris.George Ferris was born on Valentine's Dayin Illinois and it was one of ten children.Oh.That poor woman.Back in the day in the 1800s,imagine it, ten children.When he was five, his family moved west and ran low
01:05:45on money. Duh, you've got ten children.Yeah. Not cheap. He became a bridge engineerand owned a firm that tested iron and steelin 1886. He married Margaret.And by all accounts, a cheerful man.Full of ambition.You'd hope he was cheerful.Imagine it's like the lovely Ferris Well, I don't know.
01:06:04You haven't invented that yet.I liked them, but just not on the Auckland waterfront.He was, you said you hated them.You went on record yesterday.I said, you got that shit.The Melbourne one's rubbish.You said, apart from the Londonite, does anybody go on any of them anymore?Nobody goes on them.
01:06:18Yeah, they're rubbish.I'm sorry.Except, you know, at like a festival, like Coachella.Perfect.Take the Ferris wheel.Take in the festival.Yeah, okay.The lovely desert.
01:06:27He's a right.Don't put them in the middle of a seat.city.Don't upset him.So you want them mobile, you don't want them permanent.I want them mobile in northern cities.Chicago's 1893 World Fair desperately wanted something to top Paris's Eiffel Tower.And Ferris said, I-Feris will out Eiffle, Eiffel with my Ferris wheel.
01:06:46He sketched his, apparently his original concept on a restaurant napkin and showed it to other engineers.And he said, I'm going to build this monster of a wheel.And they were like, it's too big Ferris.It'll collapse under its own weight.Fair is God damn itI will reject thissaid the master of the fairis it's too fragile
01:07:04he spent $25,000 of his own moneyon safety studies to prove it would workYou'll remember he owns a company that tests steel for BridgettsYeahHe said it'll be done look here's the engineeringHere's the calculations behind itThe fair said okayBut only if you paid for the construction
01:07:20yourself and you've got four months to build itDuring a Chicago winterI'm not paying for it myselfHow rich is this gentlemanWell, he was doing all right, but you rememberthat he already paid $25,000 of his own moneyin the late 1800s.That's a stack of cash.
01:07:35If I was Mary, Ferris, I'd be pissed off.No, you're not spending our money like that.Yeah, well, no, she was right behind her husband.Oh.So it had 36 cars.There were 40 swivel chairs.It could hold up to 60 people with a combination of sitting and standing.2,160 riders.
01:07:53It was about the size.Each car was about the size of a bus.Oh, yeah.A 40-piece band played on it as the web.rose over the fair and Margaret was her name not Mary Margaret said it toasted to herhusband at the top of this 250 foot high wheel this thing is a monster yeah hundred metersit was the most popular attraction 1.4 million people rode on that at 50 cents each wow um soeverybody was really but after the fair just to put that into context the London eye is 135
01:08:24meters.That's big.It was not as big as theLondon.But for the very first wheelFerris wheel.That's massive.I thought it'd be a little dinky one.
01:08:33I thought it's going to be a littlelike an AMP show.Like the kids zone at Rainbow's Endwhen you're like,but you can see whyall wheels after were named afterFerris as he engineeredthis, you know.
01:08:44This feat.A feat of engineering.So after the fair,he said, hey, I paid for that.You'll remember I paid for thatand I got some investorsto help me out.We need our share.
01:08:54of that $750,000 profit, which at the time.Phenomenal amount of money.Two years in court he spent.At the same time, he was sued for allegedlycopying a small wooden wheel.Okay.And he's like, it's completely different.Completely different engineering.
01:09:10He had to declare bankruptcy, and he lost his companies,and then his wife left him.He lost his home.Oh, interesting, Margaret was only run for the fairest money.Yes, she was.She loving up top, didn't she?Didn't she?Loved the glamour of it all.
01:09:21Yeah.Yeah.Now get stuff, Margaret scoffs off with Philip Mary go around.Or the bumper, she pretty ran him with the bumper guy.I don't jump on with bump her.Philip bumper.So then Ferris loses his home and reportedly turned to the whiskey.Oh no!
01:09:38In 1896, only four years after the Chicago World Fair,he died of typhoid.He owed thousands of dollars to creditors across the country.he was crematedand the crematoriumheld onto his ashes for 15 monthsbecause somebody owed them $1509 90for the cremation
01:10:00They didn't round upI would have run it upI would have to 160It's a bit out of a cremationIt's a tough timeIt's a cramationJust round to a nice round numberA tough time
01:10:09ApparentlyIf he wasn't payingThey should have just chucked him inWith someone elseAnd halved the ashesNo one knows where the ashes are todayBecause there's some peopleThat said his brother
01:10:17Collected themAnd another one said a womanWho worked at one of thecompanies came and got them. Right.Right. I hope they scattered him from a fairest wheel.Yeah, that would have made sense.Because did they dismantle the wheel?Here we go. Here's the fate of the wheel.
01:10:32After the fair, it was moved to a Chicago neighbourhood where neighbours complained more thancustomers paid. They said it's noisy and it's an eyesore.I've told you, they're an eyesore for the city.They're an eyesore in a city.It was then taken apart and moved to St. Louis for the world, 1904 World's Fair.And everyone was like, we've seen this.Right.Oh, we missed such a good team.
01:10:51And the rest is history.You know, he said, oh, Margaret would be annoyed.Yep.You know, and you said, no, Margaret's right behind him.Someone messaged him with 10 kids.Sounds like he was right behind Margaret as well.Oh.Not in the 1800s.
01:11:03It would have been missionary, missionary only.Yeah, missionary.So it was moved.They didn't know about the other ones.No, they didn't know.No.They didn't.They didn't.
01:11:11Well, they didn't have Cosmo Sealed section.No.Like, how would it go?Oh, jeep is Christmas.It was just missionary.Yeah, yeah.Good Lord.Well, tomorrow on the show, maybe we'll cover the 1918 Discovery
01:11:19by Mr. Patrick Doggy.Oh, and bless him.No, we're doing bumper cars.Oh, okay, I'll look into bumper cars tomorrow.Patrick Doggy!So, after the 19-4 World Fair,it was sold to a junk dealer for $1,800,which was a lot of money,
01:11:35but there was a lot of scrap metal in there.Yeah.It was blown up with 200 pounds of dynamitebecause they said it was quickerto get it apart than taking apart all the bolts.All the little screws and stuff.Humans will always find the easiest, laziest way.Yeah, yeah, yeah, blow it up.
01:11:49Yeah.It's like that big skyscraper in town.That's the only way.Blow it up.An implosion.Blow up the CBA.Who doesn't love an implosion?Anyway, so today's fact of the day is next time you're on a Ferris wheel,
01:12:00you can say, do you know this was named after a man that died at 37 with an alcohol addiction of typhoid?Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.Play.Play Z-N-N-Flech for him.What was the one thing that made you swear off of love?I did it.I said these exact words before.I'm not doing that again.
01:12:31Yeah, and then you went back into it.Whoops.Spending, you know, money on eBay for scams.I know.How did this happen?Blind by love.Love does do crazy things, but there are moments.It involves the heart.
01:12:45And when your heart gets broken, a lot of the time you'll be like,I'm not doing that again, I swear off of love.So this is the case, G Flip, who, if you don't know, she's an Australian artist,she drums, she's cool, the gay.Am I sorry?Do youskehwin, am I, A, they.Yes.I'm so sorry.
01:13:03We just panicked in the booth and both got out Facebook to message you, they.Bay, they, they, they, they.Oh, she's cancelled.No, I caught her and I apologise.It was my mistake.So G-Flip, they are an artist from Australiaand they met, what's her name?Crishell.
01:13:19Crishell Stouse,who you guys know is a reality show star?Yeah, she was on Selling Sunset,which is like a big Netflix,what is it called, real estate TV show.She sells fancy houses.Yeah.She also famously divorced from that hot guy
01:13:39from the TV show whereyou follow a bunch of couplesthat was really popular with millennialsand I don't know the name of.That's a lot.That's enough information.Something like, this is usor something.
01:13:54Sure.Right, okay.Wait, so Justin Hartley.Yes, Justin Hartley.Justin Hartley.Famously, didn't talk to herabout wanting to divorce.She just saw that he filed in the media.
01:14:08Oh, wow.Oh, okay.Ouch.I mean, that's, that, that would put you off love.So, yeah, so that didn't do it.So, Chrisel was straight.She was like, no, I'm 100% straight.Went to this, like, home thing, and G-Flip was there.
01:14:22And G-Flip was like, no.She flipped her.Flipped her.Yeah.Literally.Classic, classic G-flips.Yeah.And then they had a beautiful marriage.
01:14:32They got married.How long were they married for?Every year they renewed their vows.five years.Five years they were married.Renew their vows every year,which sometimes are the couple, you know,seal and hide it, you know,
01:14:46just doing every year to be like,we still love each other, eh?Let's let everyone know that.No, they only got married four years ago in July.I was so off.I'm sorry, you can redoing your vows.Yeah.And actually, as the number one G-flip and Crishel stand,
01:14:59they actually never made it legal.Oh, right.So they're married, but like it's not legally papered.Anyway, the thing is,Chrisel uploads this video very much making it clear that she's still in love with Gflip.This is not, you know, and she was like, I just need to cover it.And I'm never doing this again.Vowing off of love, we're not doing this again.
01:15:17This is what I want to know from our listeners.It's always the people to say that out loud.Yeah, but they're the ones that get married five times.Yeah, yeah.Not again.No, not again.Fool me once, shame on someone.Fool me eight times.
01:15:28Me, me, me.It's like Haley and scams.It just keeps happening.Yeah.Not doing that again, though.I don't know.Fool me once, shame on you.Fool me 10 times.
01:15:38We'll really shame on you.Yeah.Okay, 0,800 dials at Amazon number.We want to hear from you now.You can text through 9-696.What made you swear off of love?G-Flip and their wife,Chris.
01:15:50Chris.Which isn't a real name.It is a made-up of Christina and Michelle.Yeah.And a little Rochelle in there for...And Rochelle for good measure.They've separated.And Chrisel went online and said,
01:16:01I'm never doing this again.We've all said it before.Famous last week.words?Partner and I fell out of love, but it's still great friends and co-parents.Made me swear off love because if I can't be in love with my best friend, then who can I be with?Oh.Interesting.
01:16:17Whilst telling me our marriage of 22 years was over, two kids, a dog, house and business together.He told me he knew how I felt because his girlfriend broke up with him when he was 15.What?Okay, not the same.She's upset and he's like, I know what it feels like because I had a girl break.up with me when I was 15.Yeah, it's exactly the same.My ex was a narcissist who lied about having cancer.
01:16:41Turns out on the third partner, she's told that too, so I reckon I might give it a beat.What?Give that a beat.I swore off love because growing apart seems inevitable in 2026.My parents have been together 50 plus years, but I just don't think that exists anymore.You just got to sift through the shit and have fun while doing it.So many dudes that aren't actually single, so many dudes that say they're a giver, but just give disappointment.You are again, but you didn't lie about that.
01:17:08Swearing off love is just basically like saying you're never drinking again after a big night out.Yeah, it is.Yeah, you've got a love hangover and you're like, oh, no, I can't face it again.I'm farting.This made me swear off love.I can't stand it.No longer a term of indemnity's skitties in the undies.I'm off loving men.
01:17:24Yeah, that sounds like something that was once cute and funny is now like...Teeth.No.That one was wet.You've shaked yourself.I'm out.The ZM Podcast Network.Play ZM's Flethams.
01:17:34Forna and Haley.We don't know now what made you swear off love.Rip into it.Yeah, there's a lot.Um, oh no.Someone said,ended a long-term relationship,thought the best way to get over somebody is to get under somebody else.
01:17:47Nice.And afterwards he cried and I was like,what's going on there?Wait,they're crying now?I want to know if we can have a follow-up message,crying good or cry bad.Yeah, right for you.
01:17:57Sometimes you get a little overwhelmed.It's really nice.Yeah.Yeah.Um, okay.I can't say it's a single person during the Sprow and the Prough period of life that cried.But cried anybody.Sworn off love forever and absolutely happy about it.
01:18:15I was in a relationship with my partner who was younger than me for six years.Then Fannaddy had been cheating on me with multiple women.Oh, yeah.Virtually day one.He was all over the dating apps.Blah, blah, blah.Hidden Instagram accounts.You name it.
01:18:27Dick it anyway.Sworn off love and I'm totally happy about it.Yeah, nice.Men are so disappointing after a crappy marriage and failed relationships.I tried our casual friends with benefitsand he still couldn't text back.Any men texting?Some of the behaviours of women
01:18:42that are turning them off.Mother-in-laws, that's all they said.Okay, well that's what a tagging.Yes, women.Yeah.That's great.It's good.I just want balance on the shop.
01:18:50Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yeah.So my last relationship ended by cheatingand now that I'm single,I realize I never want to have to plan my lifearound someone else ever again.I can just do whatever I want whenever I want.
01:19:06That's Fletch.That's a Fletch Lossophy.Welcome to my life.You don't write a book.Fletch Lossophy.Chapter 1, singledom.Yeah.Chapter 2, sleep.
01:19:18Yeah.Chapter 3, travel.Yeah.We might do a bit of a cooking section toobecause you know I love my steer fries.Step 4.Cheapstervro with a go.Steerfrey with a goadage.
01:19:27Yep, yep.Cooking for one.Don't spend all your money.Air fry a salmon.Yeah.How long?Eight minutes.I do eight.
01:19:36Nice.You can do eight.Seven would do, but you've got to like it.Really soft.I've got to get back into the salmon because I found that I'm not getting enough omega-3s.Yeah.Have you tried fish oil pills?I can't do the fish oil because of the burps.
01:19:48Okay, right.Well, you should try salmon.I really need to because my memory.Did you, um, did you bring this co-parents one?No.Partner and I just fell out of love.Oh, yes, we did before.Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:19:59Sorry, sorry, yes, yes, yes.You see this so much.Like the parenting just takes off.over and they're like, we're building a good laugh, but I can't stand you emotionally.My husband got so deep into the manosphere that he ended up having a relationship withhis AI assistant called Sarah.No.Then had the audacity to say that I didn't meet expectations 15 years into our marriage.
01:20:22What?Imagine that such a slut, that cybernetic slut, Sarah coming in.Sarah, the cyber slut.Like to see your partner change that muchAnd then like pull for an AIImagine being with someoneAnd they start like conspiracy rabbit holeing out and overAnd you're like, wait, way, way, way, way, way, way.
01:20:40That's why I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, relationships just do end sometimesPeople just change.They don't have to be forever.I don't offend $40,000 on a wedding.Some, no, don't read that one.I've given it a quick pre-read.That's quite serious.Oh, there are some, we've had some very serious messages.
01:20:59Yes, of course.And, you know, glad to see these people are out of these horrible relationships,but I don't think discount relationships on a whole.There's someone out there that will put a big smile on your faceand touch you in all the right ways and places.Yeah.And then go home at night.And then they'll change and then they'll just come for all your money.
01:21:17Find another one.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Exactly.And then go home.And then go home.Leaving you to sleep all in your bed.Yeah, yeah.In a good night's sleep, that's chapter three in the flinch loss.
01:21:28It's a good eight hours sleep every night.It's needed.The ZM Podcast Network, ZDM's flesh, one and Haley.You missed it yesterday.We were talking about...How bad were you in the birthing suite?Yes, that's it.And I'm the one with Alzheimer's in the family.
01:21:48Yeah, right.And what was it?Someone messaged in and said that they found out their partner had been cheating on them.Yes.And then when it came to naming the baby,they were really pushing for this name, and they were like...Say it's Michelle or whatever.Michelle's a great name for a baby,
01:22:05and it turns out that he's been cheating on his partner with Michelle.The mistress's name is Michelle.And we were like, what's the psychology behind that?Yeah, what even brings a person to get there?And then we were laughing because I see my therapist once a week,and we were like, ask Virginia.Yes.You know?
01:22:23And maybe this could be a new segment.On my time.Is it five minutes of Haley's therapyis just a freebie for the listeneror just a burning psychological question.A burning psychological question, perhaps from the listener,perhaps from us.Sometimes she chimes in on what she, you know,
01:22:37she made, I told Fletch off yet,made a great call about Fletch in his lifestyle yesterday.It was brilliant.I really got to understand him.Again, maybe I should write a book.And how his work just works so much better than everyone else is.And often I'll be sharing tids and tads about Vorney and, you know, some advice.Anyway, so basically it came down to,
01:22:55and I've just done a little bit more to beef it up,because I'm not doing a whole session on this.It's narcissism 101,and it's the thrill.So a lot of the time that when people are...That's so psycho.It's mental, A.So the narcissistic thing is like,
01:23:09how much can I get away with,you know, like being like the power,like she's no idea that I'm doing this.Like this would kind of be a joke.But the thrill is a lot of the time why people cheat.They're not actually missing anything from their relationship.They're doing it for the thrill of it,like the thrill of getting caught.
01:23:24And so this person who texts in is almost like,How far can I go?How could I even get...Did it almost like want to be caught?Yeah, kind of like...Because you know how they say people return to the scene of the crimebecause there's some part of them that wants to get caught.Or like answering us, they go and watch.
01:23:40Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.Isn't that crazy?So this was, that was her take and I was just reading up on this.For some cheaters, the risk is part of the highof having an affair or cheating.Right.Hearing the mistress's name set out loud at homeby the unknowing wife every day
01:23:57is almost like a private joke he's in on.Oh my God!That is insane.That is psychotic!It's a power hit.I know something you don't know.Isn't that?I understand, I can,
01:24:11and I'm not a cheater, but I go,I can understand how people do it.You know, like life, it's sort of, can get boringand things like this.Monogamy.Yeah.Mentality is...That's next level psycho stuff, eh?
01:24:22It's twisted.Yeah.Like, you're going to know,name a baby.Your baby. Your babyafter the woman you're cheating on.And that baby is going to grow up with that name forever.That is just next-o-level crazy.
01:24:35We've got some text messages.Okay, okay. Can I just think, when I was researchingthis, it was looking into this like power plaything that I know something, you don't know, the thrill chase.And then another take on it is they're just so dumb.They haven't even put two and two together.Like, that could be another take on it.What, they're just, oh, it's actually a great name.
01:24:53I like you.drawn to that name, can't figure out why.So I get that as well, though.Yeah. What about Michelle?You know, he's thinking, what a nice name.Michelle brings me joy.And so what a joyful name.Because the other one's far more sinister.
01:25:08Anyway, text.Text, please.My sister was named after dad's two bits on the side,first name and middle name.What?Mum found out a year later.And so too late to change.Well, this is another one.
01:25:20This is a separate message.One of my children was named after my boyfriend's flung.I didn't know till.After the birth certificate was done and filedthat he was sleeping around while I was pregnantand the name he gave our kid was one of the women who was sick.This is crazy.That's like four of our listeners with individual stories, including yesterday.
01:25:41Yeah.People would be crazy, eh?I love, I mean, it's so dark.It's really dark, but I love diving into this.When's your next therapy?No, I'm not next week.I'm busy next week.I'm going the following week on Tuesday.
01:25:53Okay, well, I think maybe week after nextwe ask our listeners if they've got a question.and you can just thumb in for five minutes of free therapy.As I'm sort of leaving, I'm always like, oh, by the way.Yeah, yeah, great.Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good.And then we just get a quick little response.Yeah, yeah, great idea.
01:26:09I love this.The ZM Podcast Network.ZM's Fletch, One and Haley.Now, I was in Melbourne at the weekend.Funny weather, I'm.Funny weather, it's crazy weather, but I'm assuming by like Harry Stiles timeit's going to be like super nice and hot.Yeah, yeah, gorgeous, gorgeous.
01:26:25You know, summer will have arrived.kicked in. I caught up with a friend,had breakfast with this friendat a cafe in Melbourne.And there was awhat do you call it? A waiter? Yeah.Are you trying to be gender neutral? Waiter?No. Wait staff. I don't like
01:26:41server. It just sounds weird when you saywaiter. It's like old school.It was a hospitalYeah, the guy, the guy's serving us.The til. Waiter. Wartress.Garcone.That one? That one. Okay.Gazon.
01:26:54Gazon.Anyway, so this guy was extremely hot.And she was like, that guy is extremely hot.And I was like, well, why don't you just, when we leave, ask for his number?She's like, what?I was like, why not?You don't like live around here.Fletch philosophy, chapter four.
01:27:09Fletch.Shoot your shot.See, no, but Fletch philosophy wouldn't do this in hometown, Auckland.No, interesting.It's too small, you know people, and then you get rejected and you feel bad.But, like, when you're overseas, you don't know anyone.No.Like, oh, when I'm overseas, I'll just talk to strangers.
01:27:24I don't do that here.Yeah, and if they're like, ooh, go away, you're like, cool, I never have to see you again.You never have to see them again.Did she do it?She did it.But he said, I'm so sorry I'm seeing someone.And I was like, no.Do you know what?
01:27:36It's okay.That's okay?It's okay.Do you remember last year?Unless you reckon they were lying.Oh.Fine.Yeah, but fine.
01:27:45Who cares?Like, they're not into you.When I was 19, remember there was a guy who worked at Scoper in Wellington.And he was hot.And I used to walk there and get my coffees, even though it was so far from my work.And then one day I was like, I'm going to do it.Yeah.I borrowed an outfit from Ms Wong, and I walked down, and I slipped in my number.
01:27:59You know, had a good time.Significantly older than me.Right.Which we learned on the first day.But that's all right.We had some fun.Okay.Do you remember last year when I was newly single, and we went to that cafe,
01:28:12and I, you know, liked the boy of all the tattoos,and so I slipped into the DMs of the cafe?Yeah, that was a weird way of handling that.Yeah, it was.And then, like, when it came back to me.No, nothing.for employment relations clausesfor us to even show him this message.
01:28:28I know, but the cafeInstagram page was like, leave it with us.And then I think they might have showed himwho had been like, oh, no, it's all good.But the thing is like,you've got to show you shot.So I was on Instagram yesterdayand I saw this on this page
01:28:43that was a date psychology,like they, you know, look into the psychology of dating.Yeah.45% of men between 18 and 25, young men,have never approached a woman in people,person to ask her out. So it's always viaapps or messaging or viasomeone else. Do you think that would be the same for women
01:28:59in their age group? Like because that's justthat generation ofa bit shy and...I've had a few chats lately. Morgan was, we were chattingabout actually with Jeremy Wells. That young boysthey just don't do it. They're just likeno. I was like, what?Just shy? Nothing's going to happen. Yeah.
01:29:15Yeah, shy that they said thefear and fear of rejections, the main reason.Well, that's why you've got topractice. Yeah, you've got to practice and go out therepractice with the idea that everyone will say no and you might be surprised.And then you get used to it.Wait, Hayley, did Scope a guy's name start with a J?Yes.
01:29:33Oh my God.Okay, look, we're not going down that route.Okay, 0800, Darsadem, 966.This is what I want to know this morning is when did you shoot your shot?And it failed.And it failed because it's funny when it fails, right?It is funny, but people don't talk about the failures.They talk about the successes and the pretty people who are out there shooting their shot don't know.
01:29:54Do you think that we take both then?Maybe if you've got a good love story, you know,you shot your shot at a cafe and, you know, you're married all these years.It was a love of your life.But the failure is good.We shouldn't be afraid of failure.No, we've got to, exactly.Okay, Instagram, we asked on Instagram, had a couple of responses.
01:30:11Alex said I tried to air drop my number to a guy on the train.Now, this is when it was, air drop was a bit pesty and they've changed it now.You get a lot of your pinco.And we're the only other person on board.And they laughed.So this must have been an empty trainapart from like two people.She's like, I'm going to shoot my shot here.
01:30:28It's going to be one of these guys.And it wasn't the personand they laughed at me.Oh, no.Hey, but you tried.If it had gone through to the guyand he was keen, you would have got it.You just got to ask you tell what's the worst that can happen?
01:30:38They just say no and you go, okay, cool.And then the best thing,the best outcome is this hot guy sleeps with you.Yes.Yes.Bex here two weeks ago at child sisterand Christchurch, Haley was right there in for so long.She failed to shoot a shot at you.
01:30:51I mean, you probably was sitting there with your boyfriend.probably deters the shot shooting.Yeah.But that's okay.Okay, well, 0800 adiles.m is a number.Give us a call.You can text us, 9-696.When did you shoot your shot and it failed?
01:31:05Oh, I just think this is great.You know, we've got to fail in life.Your friend, we want to know when you shot your shot,and perhaps it failed.We've got some successes in here as well, just cute.Okay, that's great.Yeah, she asked a hot waiter, a hot guy at the campaign.He said, oh, I'm actually seeing someone flattered.
01:31:21Flat setIf someone shot their short amountI'd be likeThank you very muchYou'd be stokedYeah highest complimentWow thank youWell thank you
01:31:28Somebody saidI had a friendAnd I wanted to be more than friends with herAnd we'd go for daily walksUp to the top of Mount Wong or NuiAnd I saidMaybe we can be more than friendsAt the top of the mountain one day
01:31:41And I thought it was a romantic settingAnd there wasn't many people up thereAnd the sun was coming upShe said oh we could talk about this at the bottomAnd we did not talk about at the bottomNoNo.We talked about it at the car
01:31:53and then she drove away and I had to find another way home.No.But you know what you tried?At least you're never going to be left wondering.This feels similar to Ruby's message.My guy best mate in school just sent me a with or without youby you to YouTube link.With or without you.
01:32:11When we were sitting next to each other to tell me that he liked meand I had no idea what the effort meant.I said, oh, that's a nice song.And then he had to awkwardly explain why he had sent it.I want to be with you.And then we sat there in silence for five minutes and never discussed it again.Oh, wow.Okay, great.
01:32:27He shot his shot?He did.He tried.I had a crush on a girl.And so I wrote her a nice long letter.Yeah.About why I liked her and slipped it under her door.And then messaged her saying...
01:32:40How did he get into her house?I think he just walked up to her house.Don't break into women's homes.Oh, not a bedroom door, just front door.And then messaged her saying, go to the front door.I don't like that the man's inside.I didn't get him in.He's outside.
01:32:51He slips it under the front door.Coppe.And his message was just saying,check your front door.Now she replies 45 minutes later saying,oh my God, I've just seen this.Goes down and says it and her dad's reading.Oh, he's a really, really good laugh.
01:33:03He shot a shot.Shot a shot.Shot a shot.Oh, oh no.Oh, this affects our industry.I got the radio to read out a message to my crush on her birthday.Oh my God, we'll do that.I love making love connections.
01:33:18She texted me 10 minutes later.saying she was listening to that with her boyfriend and he heard it, he's not happy about it.Oh, yeah, okay, yeah.It's okay.Listen, the hot ones are often taken.Yeah.Also, maybe before, oh, yeah, I mean, that kind of sounded like she kind of knew her a little bit.Yeah.
01:33:35Enough to, like, you should probably know she's got a boyfriend.Yeah, yeah, yeah.But sometimes maybe you'll be a better boyfriend.And you're going to shoot your shop.Jess's message and told a guy I liked him on the last day of year 13.Yeah.He said, cool, I'll think about it.That was 2004.
01:33:49or I'm Craig, I don't know if you're still thinking back.Where are we at?Where are we?Let me know, Craig.What are we?22 years later?Because I've sort of remained single.Yeah, just kind of waiting, man.
01:34:02You said you get back to me.But do you know what?It'll probably put your mind at rest is Facebook stalking or Instagram stalking.Yeah.You might have blown it out.Yeah, but I will say if you are giving him a Facebook stalker at Instagram store,don't accidentally like a photo.Oh, yeah.
01:34:15That's going to pop right up.We've all done that.He's going to know immediately.Had a girl.tell him mates that she was staying at myhouse after the after party so they allleft us and went home. She cameback to my house and I gave her the spare bedroom
01:34:27and went to sleep in my own bed becauseshe is not my type. Imagine thatlike who are we Uber sharing?Where's your bedroom? Oh my God, I wrotea song. Yours is there. No.I wrote a song fora guy and we're at a partyand I pulled out the acoustic guitar and
01:34:43kind of made a bit of a scene aboutplaying a song for somebody special.You're so special, vol.Halfway up, he got up and kind of left the partyAnd then someone else told me laterHe just hated it so muchHe didn't know what's about himImagine in a party
01:34:58That's embarrassingEvery day we go to work togetherAnd look at you across the deskWhat my heart really wantsIt's for you to be my boyfriendWho is the same a bitchShe can get outYes I really love you
01:35:18Next of the show is speaking of awkwardOh my God, there's a stat on how often people are feeling awkwardIt's not goodThe Fletchborn and Haley Big PodThis is horribleI don't think I feel awkward very oftenBut I'm aExtrovert
01:35:35So maybe, you know, I'm less prone to it than introvertsNow this was a study out of the United KingdomThat called out a ritual they calledHumiliatingWhich is when someone holds the door for youand you're not quite ready.And so you trot?You know, you get a little...
01:35:52Oh, you get a little trot on.You get a little trot on.So this sparked this whole debateof things that are making Brits feel awkward.Holding people holding the door for you,not nailing a handshake.Oh, that's the worst.Oh, that's the worst.
01:36:05Not knowing when to say like thank youor you say like happy birthday, you too.Or, you know, can I see your ticket?Thank you.When they say, hello, you say good thanks.That's my one.You didn't ask.The person checking you.
01:36:18you in. They're like, have a nice flight. You're like, you too.Yeah, I know. They're like the official cut off, 8.5 feet.If they're further away than that, you just go through the door, I'll get my own door.Yeah. And it revealed this stat that Brits feel socially awkward. Overall, 82% of Brits feel socially awkward every day.That's a lot.One moment of the day that they're feeling socially awkward.966, by the way, what was the most awkward thing you've?I mean, we're human beings.
01:36:45Yeah, it is. Like, being human is awkward.Like it's so clunkyBut I don't think I feel awkward every dayYou've just got to stop caring as muchIt's definitely, I think it's getting worse as wellLike people get, you know, feel awkwardMaking a phone call orI feel awkward making a complaint about a service
01:37:02That is like clearly badOh, I'm shockingSometimes I'll just be like, I'll just deal with thisI'm so sorry to bring this upBut someone's taken a human shit on my pastorAnd I'm really sorry if that'sCan check with a chef if that was intentionallyYou know, like, we're so awkward to say, like, what we want and, like, I don't know.
01:37:24So true.Yeah, but I don't like people holding the door for me if I'm ages away.Oh, I don't hurry.I'm like, you shouldn't have done that.Yeah, if I'm falling right behind, for sure, hold the door.Do you know what's really bad is at our gym, lesbian mills?Yes, the stairs.The stairs.
01:37:40There's always these moments where people are trying, like, I'm going to.They're not wide enough for two unless you're, like, skinny or you go on the side.Yeah, yeah, yeah.So then you either wait at the bottom like a dongor you go through and have the most awkward, close encounter.You'll wait for someone and they're on their phone taking their sweet timeor they don't say thank you.Yeah, and then I'm like, I've actually put out my day for you.
01:38:04You know, the whole thing.Yeah, by two seconds.Yeah, yeah.You've actually thrown out my whole afternoon.I guess I have to leave the junk.And I haven't even done my work out.Yeah, well, I guess we're humans, we're awkward.Well, it's like what we were saying before about shooting your shot, you know?
01:38:16Got to.What's the worst it can have?Well, congratulations to you, podcast listeners.You've reached the end.So I would assume if you've listened all this way through,you're either asleep, in which case,wake up!Or you enjoyed it.
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