just speaking about sort of children as we were earlier, my mother in malaysia has been going through

oh yeah, it was. which is the national flower of malaysia. and so you're 12 years old. yeah.

which was sort of the name of the exams we were building up towards in malaysia,

about it. i was like that with religion in malaysia my school. the teachers the religious

caught the same guy in vietnam, who was also in malaysia fighting the british who was also

there was, are you familiar with the british malaysian emergency or mele emergency from the 40s?

vietnam because they were fighting chinese communist insurgents in malaysia. and at first

you know, and it's a method. it's not a good method, but it's a method and to your point about malaysia the british have

gurkhas aren't that and the indians in their army aren't that far away from cambodia malaysia vietnam

far away from cambodia, malaysia, and vietnam. right. there's going to be some cultural overlap there. you know, and i think that played a big role in them being able to be like, wait,

and it's just, it's completely different than in the malaysian case where the brits are

the brits fought the chinese back gorillas in malaysia. oh yeah. and it's and so but the

the brits won. was there any indication that the chinese, the surgeons went from like, chinpeng and his little goons went from malaysia into cambodia to assist in the chinese

you know, absolutely. i think the only cold war era conflict and surgency whatever was the british and malaysia. they were the only ones to be successful at

today, like malaysia is a very pro-west state.

i was in borneo a few years ago, you know, like in the malaysian part of borneo and it's a beautiful country and you know very

like malaysia, south korea, and indonesia,

malaysian authoritarian prime minister mahathir mohamad

he claimed his actions actually gave malaysia

indonesia, malaysia

i don't like that indonesia and malaysia are costing us billions because they're boycotting

yeah. so when i was a little girl, i went back to malaysia a lot.

i was born in malaysia and my whole family still lives there.

after the assassination of malaysia of his father, prominent banker hussein nujati, we'll pull some photos up of hussein najadi. pascal, a veteran of the swiss air force, began his whistleblowing

from india, malaysia, lebanon, and saudi arabia.

looked it up. that's on record. he was assassinated in malaysia,