1-on-1 with DP – 93.7 The Ticket KNTK - 1-On-1 with DP - ABA Talk - June 21st, 2025

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

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Coming at you live from the heart of Lincoln America, a 93-7-the-ticket and the ticketfm.com. Here is your host, Derek Pearson, brought you by Canopy Street Market. Boom. In your face. In your face. Saturday. Saturday live. Sports conversations on the ticket.

I think I have some freedom today because, so Todd Euler's up next, right? Yes. So you're up next, depending on how this hour goes and how some things manifest. I'm going to go until one, Yuler will come in and one and we'll see how it plays out after that. But it depends on it. It depends on. We might do some things. You can be a part of the show. 424, 6, 4, 6, 4, 6, 8, 5 is the starter. Heyman. We want to be a part of it. Shout at Rick Heyman. Rick, brother, we appreciate all that you do for the team. and for this community. Thank you, kind, sir. And we guess we still need the Rick Hart,

the Rick Rock and Roll hour so you can actually talk music and share the stories. We need to do that. We need to figure that out. You can follow on all of the video streams, Facebook, YouTube. At all-a-channel 961, please download the ticket app if you have not done so. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. You can, in fact, and should have the app. It goes wherever you go that way. You don't have to worry about brick and mortar. It'll be on your phone on your laptop, no matter where you are and what goes on.

It is a spectacular Saturday in Lincoln, Nebraska. Hot, hot. At this very hour, at this very hour, it registers at 93 on its way to 101. 93. 94, it just changed on me because it was like, nope, not hot enough. it's like the weather was paying attention.

Oh, only 93? Here, here's 94. Here's 94. Have some. Have some. Thomas and Lincoln shout out, bro. He says, thank you. What up, DP.

Thank you for keeping me busy during the hot workday on Saturday. You are appreciated, kind, so looking forward to the next hug. 100%. 100% to Bill and Bennett. but Mississippi Muddog as well. We had a question at the end of the previous one-on-one that I want to get back to it. Of course, we'll go through some things.

NBA, Game 7 tomorrow night, the discussion over what's the bigger game watch day for Game 7, should that be on Sunday or Saturday night. But we'll talk about that. Because that's marketing and the psychology behind it, but I kind of want to know. Like, where do you want that? Also, the complex, if you're looking for some cage work,

some cage action, fisticuffs and whatnot, other assorted whatnot, at the complex, first fight at 7 p.m. tonight here in Lincoln. You can, the tickets still available. You can find it, the complex, Lincoln, Nebraska. If you want to do that, of course, and we have passes for the salt dog. So if you are interested in that, there may be a time somewhere within this hour for you to just text in and say, hey, me and the family would like to go to Salt Dogs tonight as well. You can do that greatly.

Appreciate it. I was, in fact, paying attention because this is one of those UFC Saturdays where they're international. And because on a day like this one, it starts earlier. uh it's a great card in that uh jemal mill john ball hill former uh light heavyweight champion of the world and uh calil uh calil roundtree who in his last performance went toe to toe uh with alex perera for for four rounds before perera got the best of him but it's one that you know he was highly celebrate celebrate for the amount of uh work he put in He had some great success against Pereira before Pereira finished him.

Pretty interesting stuff. A connection that most people would not have made, of course, Kumar Ouzman from Nebraska-Karney, National Championship Russell, who's in the UFC, made his spectacular return last week to the UFC with a great performance. and win his brother Muhammad Usman kicked off today's UFC fight night with a unanimous decision, 29, 28 on all cards over Hamdi Abduwah, Wahab. And that's a big win for him in the heavyweight division. So shout out.

He's spent some time here in Nebraska as well. So shout out to Muhammad Usman for getting a win and again, leading this thing off. And it's a great card. So there's that. The question that was posed, Thomas asked the question here, who are you pulling before game seven and why? So I've been in this game for a long time.

And you tend to connect to teams, rosters, cities, communities. That's what matters. There is not one. professional sports city that I know less about than Oklahoma City. For whatever reasons, growing up, Oklahoma City was not a major sports town.

That wasn't its place. It was known for minor league baseball, and there was some minor league basketball in Oklahoma City, but I wasn't familiar. Now, connected to the Seattle Supersonics. Seattle as a town, Seattle is a sports town,

Seattle is a major sports town. There were tons of things. Now, my first, the NBA final that landed the heaviest with me was the Seattle Super Sonics and Washington Bullets. The bullets had to go through

the Sonics to get to win their first NBA championship. and that era of Seattle basketball meant a lot. It resonated a lot. You learned a lot about the fan base and why it wasn't. I never understood why the Sonics didn't get the arena that they thought they deserved to stay in Seattle. Seattle's a major sports town.

Mariners, it's a happening. Seahawks, if you haven't been to that building during a Seahawks game, you haven't experienced the NFL yet. I'm just going to say that to people, just as simple as I can say it, that if you have not gone to a Seattle Seahawks home game, you have not experienced NFL game day. It's one of the ones that you have to put at the top, in the top five of game day experiences,

Seattle, whether it's warm or cold, is an experience. And for some reason, the Seattle cold doesn't make me as miserable as the Lambeau cold. It didn't make me as miserable as Detroit, getting into Detroit Stadium. Because getting into Detroit Stadium was miserable. Super Bowl, Minneapolis, getting into the Super Bowl for those were very difficult. Seattle, I don't have a negative memory or recall. of December and January games in Seattle. It was far more pleasant.

But for some reason, the Sonics were moved. And that would be its own 30 for 30. If somebody out there wants to do it 30 for 30, on the Seattle Supersonics leaving and moving, being moved to Oklahoma City. It was still Seattle, for me, when Kevin Durant was drafted, they came through Salt Lake.

At the time I was doing sports in Salt Lake City, and the event back then was the Rocky Mountain Review. So before the NBA Summer League in Vegas, as it is now, the biggest Summer League get-together tournament was the Rocky Mountain Review in Salt Lake City. And there would be 12, 16 teams that were coming to Salt Lake City and playing for two weeks. Amongst them, Seattle.

And this rookie from Texas, that people just deemed he was too skinny, wasn't strong enough if this was, and this is the first time you get to see them. And in this particular year, with Carmelo, Anthony, Kevin Durant, Jason Williams from Duke,

and I knew that Durant was going to be a problem. It's going to be a problem. And then they moved to OKC, then Add in Hardin and Westbrook and Company. But that being said, I am an old ABA guy to my core, to my heart. My love for basketball started in the ABA. It didn't start with the NBA. The NBA was not cool when I was a kid.

It wasn't cool. The ABA, the American Basketball Association, was cool. For a city kid, right, the style of play in the ABA was far. more sexy than the NBA. The NBA was traditional. Yeah, I wasn't mad at Honda Havlicek and Dave Cowens and Don Nelson.

I wasn't mad at them. But they weren't Julius Irving. They weren't Dr. Jay, Georgia McGinnis, Don O'Hillman, David Thompson, the Skywalker. They didn't have that kind of sexiness. And the red, white, and blue ball. and the new three-point rules.

Three-point shooting was, that was the ABA. The NBA fought that stuff. The NBA didn't want the above-the-rim action that the ABA not only wanted, but cheered for loudly. I loved the ABA. Athletes who ran the floor, they got long on the wing, they finished above the rim, They had a little spark and style to it.

The games themselves were circuses. I feel bad for young hoop fans who never got to experience the ABA. Because the ABA, I mean, look, when you have like dancing bears at halftime, when you have people wrestling bears at halftime of your ABA basketball game, they literally said yes to any promotion. anybody that wanted to do a halftime show could do it at an ABA game. And it was everything. And when you look at the Will Ferrell, you know, Miami Tropics movie,

it's built on that whole, some of the craziness that went on. Some of it was bad business, but there were certainly stars and the style of play. To go through, Indiana had George McGinnis, who was as much LeBron back, in the 70s as you could have, six foot eight, 230 pounds shoulders from God, directly carved by God. Some of the greatest afros to ever exist

existed in the American Basketball Association. You would have on that team, Donnell Hillman, who he and Julius Irvin, they could have had an afro off. Like those two afros were exceptional. Just artist Gilmore before he went to the Chicago Bulls was with the Kentucky Colonels.

And the Kentucky Colonels with Dan Issel and Louis Dampier. Like they, I mean, there were guys, man. And then Denver transitioned from the old style to the David Thompson Skywalker, 44 inch vertical leap, David Thompson, Denver Nudges. I was raised on.

So before, before the Washington Capitals, hockey team, NHL team, there was a Washington Capitals basketball team. And a star player was a guy who would go on to win the NBA MVP in Rick Berry. But Rick Barry didn't want to play in Washington, D.C. My basketball fandom was born in several different arenas around the state of Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, because the Virginia Squires had a guy from the University of Massachusetts. who made his bones at Rucker Park in New York City in the summer.

And they were like, who is his, he's not playing for one of the big schools. You're at UMass, bro. How good can you be? But his name was Julius Irving. And Julius Irving was a Virginia Squire. And some 19 come out with the high top red Chuck Taylor. Canvas, Chuck Taylor, high tops. Some 19 have the blue high top, tuck tails.

Because Virginia Squires are colors. red, white, and blue. Match the basketball. They would play at the Norfolk scope. They'd play at the Richmond Coliseum. They'd play all overstate. Next to him was from North Carolina, maybe the second best

shooting guard out of North Carolina ever, ever, ever. Charlie Scott. Ask your daddy about Charlie Scott. Bucket. Bucket. He was a bucket. We had a big center, seven-footer, and he was the slowest dude I'd ever seen, but he was spectacular because his footwork was amazing.

He was slow, but he was quick at the same time. Billy Pulse is a seven-footer. That was my love for basketball, was watching the ABA. Was watching the old ABA. That was the St. Louis. Listen, St. Louis has some, the St. Louis. the St. Louis Spirit, who birth, you don't get Bob Costas without the St. Louis Spirit, because he was an intern and an apprentice, and then because no one else would do it,

he did the play-by-play. That's where Bob Costas cut his teeth. The old Utah Stars, the Utah Stars, man, with the legend, Omar's own Ron Boone, the legend, Ron Boone, who they couldn't get off the court. The Utah stars, man. Exceptional uniforms. The ABA had some fantastic uniforms. Spectacular. So to answer the question in the longest way possible,

my heart has to allow room and space for the success of the Indiana patients. Old NBA heads need. the Pacers to win this. But the new game doesn't care. The new game says it's Oklahoma City. It's OKC. That's what the new game says. Old school value, old school legacy.

You won't see the long list of Indiana Pacers. You won't see that long list for OKC Thunder. It's not that old. It's not that old. You got to go get Kevin Durant to wear a Thunder jersey for this to matter. Now, if you walk in and you, if we walk in the OKC tonight and you see a bunch of Sonics jerseys, okay, I can have that conversation. But I am, we can go through, literally, I could do two hours on the old American basketball

association because it was glorious. It was so good. So good. Cheap tickets, cheap food and beer, and some of the most athletic greyhounds you ever saw in your whole life. Right, Mark, you're absolutely right. The Kansas City, the old KC. Kings, who had to share time. Now, I don't have many regrets,

but I wish I was around for Omaha Kings basketball. And if there's anybody out there that has an Omaha King's jersey, please let me know. Because now I'm going to go on a search because I need, I don't want, I don't want the mixed KC. King's, Omaha Kings jersey. I want Omaha King's jersey.

I need an Omaha NBA jersey from back in the day or an ABA. In ABA. I have Virginia Squires jersey. I have Dr. J's. Virginia Squires I have a Rick Barry, Washington Caps. But if you have an old, if you have old ABA goodies in your closet, please let me know in your basement.

Fred Donne Horberg says the Kentucky colonels team of that time should have gone over to the NBA, but I guess our owners made a lot of money and still are by folding. Yep, yep, the colonels, the colonels were actually the second best choice of teams that transitioned over. and you're talking about New Jersey, so the New Jersey Nets, who have gone back and forth between New York Nets and New Jersey Nets.

But at that time, Dr. J. had been traded from the Squires to the New Jersey Nets. And the Nets won the ABA title with Julius Irving before. And then the league figured out, my goodness, we need this Julius Irving guy, what's going to take? And the ABA was struggling financially. at least some of the teams were. And so they put together that, look, there's enough talent over there,

but we want room for some of these teams because these markets need to be in the NBA. The colonels, the colonels were a blue blood ABA franchise. Again, if you said to them that artist Gilmore, Dan Isle, David Thompson, Louis Dampere, played on the old Kentucky colonels slash then into the Denver Nuggets. And they took a lot of players in the transition. But that David Thompson group from Denver? Oh, sir. Sir.

Dan Isle. Dan Isle may be one of the 10 best players that we don't talk about enough when it comes to NBA all time. Dan Isle was a problem. It was a problem. And when we talk about bigs, we don't talk about the big left-hater with the super afro. We don't talk about ours, Gilmore.

Artist Gilmore. Oh, my goodness, gracious. I think he was 7-4 with the Afro. And he had to battle some dudes. The ABA days, we did a, French that he went to a, Casey Omaha Kings, Jersey against Billy Knight

and the Indiana Pacers in Omaha right after the merger. Yep. Billy Knight, again, that's another pacer that we don't talk about, but those were ballers, man. When we go to break, I'm going to pull up some of the old rosters of the ABA teams just to give you some idea about what this thing looked like. If you just talked about ABA All-Star games from back in the day, you will talk about some of the best basketball players to ever walk this planet. And we don't talk about them enough. But we will because it's one-on-one and we can.

Remember, never know what you're going to get. Forward the break. We're going to talk ABA when we'll come back. You're listening to One-on-One with DP. by Mary Ellen's Food for the Soul on 937 the ticket and the ticketfm.com. Listen, I try to remind folks at the beginning of all one-on-ones that we have no idea where it's going to come. Down the rabbit hole, all the way into a new rabbit hole, into a new rabbit hole, and on the break. Now, we're going to get back to the ABA.

But if things just happen that I've never seen, as much as I've been at UFC events and covered UFC events, I have never seen this where a foul was called because a woman, the two lady fighters were fighting, and a woman was kicked into lady parts. There's no other way to say it. Kicked her straight in the lady parts. And I had to pause. I had to pause. And I, I've got it on the laptop. So I have the capability of going back 10 seconds.

So I just had to. I was like, okay. Yep. Now, they resumed the fight. But yeah, I had never seen it. So call it a first. Call it a first. Never seen it.

Didn't really know how I felt about it. Didn't really know how I was, but I, hey, never had I, I never had. I was like, I paused. Like, have I ever witnessed it? And I'm sure it's happened. I'm sure it's happened. I'm positive it's happened. I just couldn't recall it and it certainly didn't hit me the way it just landed.

Like, oh, that's a, that's a, that's a foul too. That's a foul. that's a foul. So again, fight night, it's Hill versus Roundtree, Jr. Later, the prelims

have already started because they're, they're international today, and the fight cards have already started. So there's that. We were talking about

the old American and basketball association. Now, a couple of things in play. First of all, from the text line, yeah, that coffee black

from the Miami Tropics had, an incredible afro. And it's Andre 300, from Outcast, who plays the, the character, coffee black.

Exceptional Afro. Exceptional Afro. As a matter of fact, Jackson, at some point, I'll show you my high school afro. My high school basketball afro.

Deepy with a fro. Fro, I was frothastic. There we go. It was, it was so fromanic. On a scale of one, the doctor,

J, how pro was your pro? It was so frownon. It was so frownant. It was, it was, it was fronastast. It was

It was remarkable. It was remarkable. It's fantastic. It was fantastic, man. It was protastic. It was not Dr. J. Level Afro, but not many work. And Afro's had different.

I'm going to say that Bake McBride, bake McBride, who was a center fielder for the Philadelphia Phillies may have had the greatest afro ever, sports afro. Bake McBride, it's a Mount Rushmore of afros. Bake McBride from the Phillies,

Oscar Gamble, Oscar Gamble of the then Cleveland Indians had an afro that was so spectacular and so epic that the league wasn't really sure how to deal with it. and I don't mean Oscar Gamble of the New York Yankees where he had to trim it. I'm talking about this man's Afro, oh, had its own zip code.

Thing was booming. He had his own zip code. Boom and Afro. Boomer. Bank of Bride, Oscar Gamble, Donnell Hellman of the Indiana Pacers, Julius Irving, trying to think of great afros.

On the other side of the universe, as a fan of the formerly Washington Redskins, there are two members of the Washington Redskins who almost make the Mount Rushmore of Afros. And that story is spectacular because they are men of the Caucasian persuasion, that John Riggins, the diesel, had one of the most epic afros.

John Riggins, New York Jets, Afro. John Riggins, Oh, come on. New York Jets, John Riggins, Afro was diabolical. Talking about a game changer, game-changing afro by John Riggins, so much so that to rebel from the,

from the from the people he then cut it into a mohawk that's what i was saying i was like he cut it and the mohawk was mount rush more epic it is right next to mr t's mohawk as epic and it's so john riggins was epic in that first of all a white national level sprinter right that he was a national level sprinter at kansas city with the afro and the mohawk and then Super Bowl and like just do you think. Like do you thing, but do you think. But if I, on the same team, underrated, this guy is such a unicorn that Mark Mosley,

the only kicker and NFL history to win the MVP. Also that year, you know why he won the MVP? because that year Mark Mosley sported maybe the coolest white dude afro ever. Perm Afro Mark Mosley. Epic.

This dude, Mark Mosley's Brewery. Listen, don't play with me. Don't play with me. Epic. Epic, epic. But those, I, to say, Baker,

Oscar Gamble, Donnell Hillman, uh, there was maybe the perfect afro, uh, that perfect for baseball because it was the perfect one that fit under the batting helmet. But there's a guy who was a borderline Hall of Famer for the Chicago White Sox by the name of Dick Allen, Dick Allen was a power hitter, uh, back in the 70s, 60s.

And he, had an epic afro run it was a spectacular afric run um you know who i have to put it in the consideration another white guy that probably you wouldn't think of but he had a perm but he permed it into an afro and you don't think of him that way but don't son sutton don sutton who renowned for his time with the dodgers but he played everywhere and don sutton for a three-year stretch, permed his hair into an afro. And it was, like, Will Ferrell from Tropics stole his afro from Don Sutton. Oh, yeah, that's good.

Oh, come on. Don Sutton didn't even play with it. He was nice with it. His game was nice with it, bro. To have that kind of pull up. And he was, he was pitching at the time. So the fact that he had the, the, the afro and the hat stayed on the entire, like he never lost the, his, his, his hat while we're, while having the afro. Oh, I want a baseball card with him and

that. Oh, that's awesome. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. Oh, oh, man. Like it was, you know, hold on here. I have to, because my buddy just texted me and they were trying to remind me of guys who had game, right, in sports. But the Riggins, if you, if you, this is how good Riggins Afro was, that if you type in great white guy Afros,

John Riggins, of all the white afros in the world, John Riggins pictures third. It's third. Oh my God. It actually is. It's third in the great, you can Google great white guy afros and the John Riggins afro from the Jets. Mind you that John Riggins was running,

he was running nine, six hundred yard dashes wearing black high tops. John Riggins was a savage. He was a savage. You know who else is on it? Oh my God, the painter. Bob Ross. Bob Ross is on it.

Bob Ross is on the list. It's a good afro. Barthos is on the list. That's so good. That's so good that he's in the top. You literally could Google it and he's in the top. Oh, that's spectacular. Oh, man.

So in the great Afro, conversation again Julius Irving um bank McBride Oscar Gamble I I do have to include early Ben Wallace of the Pissons yes it's early Ben Wallace early Colin Kaepernick oh true yeah he had a oh he had the pro cap had it alone Cap had to one. I remember that one. You know what? I had forgotten,

I was given Oscar Gamble his credit, but I had forgotten how magnificent Oscar Gamble's Afro was. So there's a thing that you can do with Afro's. Oh, dang. Yeah, called Coco Pop. I love the way he wears his hat. Right? But there's just one,

both of any of his baseball cards, it looked like he had the Cocoa Pops. Yeah. But he actually just had the Afro. They're like on the side. Right. It's just, it's the two headphones. Yeah, it's the two headphones of Afro.

And you just go, oh my goodness gracious. This is spectacular. You know who is on the list? Oh, DP, shame on you. My buddy just sent to me a young Herm Edwards. Herm Edwards. Young Herm Edwards. Afro perfecto.

This is Herm. I look, man. Oh, yeah, he had. Herm had head game. He had Afro game. Herm Edwards. Brough, my apologies. My apologies for not giving you to shout out.

Oh, my goodness. It's like perfectly like, shape. Oh, he, he. The hair lines there. Oh, bro. That's a good afro. That is a fantastic. Oh,

oh, good after. Oh, well, you know, young, young Cleveland Cavaliers, Mr.

Allen has Afro. Yeah, Alan has. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Jared Allen. Yeah.

Look behind you. Randy Moss. Yeah, young Randy. He was Afro-tastic. Um, yeah. My buddy Keith Kloss had a pretty,

for a tall skinny dude. he had yeah he had but the artist Gilmore super afro with the mutton ch-like he had the whole mutton job he had the sideburns goatee like he had I could grow the afro I couldn't grow the facial I couldn't I couldn't pull that off artist Gilmore pulled it off artist Gilmore pulled it off and he and he held on to it late to his career where the Afro started to run back away from his scalp a little bit. Oh yeah, I see it. Right, right. He's running

away from a little bit. But, but yeah, it's still, it's still, he still did his thing. He's got like a swoop. Yeah, yeah, it went you know, father father time is undefeated. And afros are usually where it works.

Like this is when you start to know that the great facial artist. There's a list. Somebody had a list that had Oscar Gamble number 13, blaspheme. Blastpheme. Demetre Young of the Detroit Lions had a three-year epic run, epic run of Afro. Shame on me as well. You know who belongs on the list?

And we don't think of it because he always wore corn rolls. Alan Iverson. He had an Afton? Alan Iverson had the serious capital letters. Fro he did. Oh, he was young. Bro. He had the serious.

Yeah, man. He was on the cover of Slam. Yeah, man. He had to, he had the serious. We have to count him. Okay. Even though his dad was a tennis player. But, but Jakeem Noah had a,

had a fantastic afro. That is true. He had a, he had his draft night afro. Oh my goodness. Straight out of Florida. He wore it down. Oh, he, he wasn't playing with it.

He was not playing with it. So I'm going to say, yeah, we're going to have to have that debate. Like that's a full on debate, debate. But it has to go in two different categories. It has to go in two different categories.

categories. Black afros, not black afroes. Because I need to have the John Riggins, Will Ferrell conversation. And here's what I need. Here's what I need to have the court. Here's what I need. So Bob Ross and John Riggins are like one A and one B. But I need to know do Perms count for white guys? Do Perms count? And then did Will Ferrell wear wig for, for the tropics or not. In the movie, was that a wig or was that a Will Ferrell Park? That's a good question.

Right? So the text line, you can fill us in. Yeah. Yeah, Husker, yeah, Wonder Mons. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, we're, again, down the rabbit hole. All the way down the rabbit hole.

But this is what 101 does. I try to tell you in advance. Boris Gump's mom told you, You never know what you're going to get. When you get in a 101, you never know what you're going to get. So this is how it works, man. Buck, when you, I told you, when you come play with me at 101, buckle in because we don't know where it's going to go. We are now fully in white dude afros.

We'll be right back. You're listening to One-on-One with DP. Brought you by Canopy Street Market on 937, the ticket and the ticket FM.com. Yeah, we're all over the place. we're all over the place. There was a day, there was a game, the year after the World Series,

where Anthony Renzon of the Nationals was given the day off to rest, injuries, etc. And so they told Dusty Big told him, we're not even going to put you in uniform. So don't worry about it. You're just going to take the day off. And Rendon showed up with his full Afro. And when I say

full Afro, that Afro could have been used as a satellite. That Afro had had distance. It had distance. Underrated Afro, he didn't show it much. But

my goodness gracious, that was the thing. Early Dan Marino mid-Afro was the thing. It was the thing. Bernie Kozar of the Cleveland Brown. exceptional. Well done.

Bernie Kozo. Well done. On the answer. Bill Walton had it. And Bill Walton did it with the mutton chops. He and artist Gilmore had a facial hair battle. When Walton had the long hair and it was like cherry red. I just remember it.

It was like, bro, what are you doing? Like this is when I know you get the best herbals in California. And he was in Portland too. And he just go, okay. Honorable mention, people that we may have missed. And shame on us for doing so. But yeah, you mentioned the Huskers. We could do an entire show on Husker Afros over the course of the years,

which I will hand off to the Huskers and let them tell the stories because I know. But Kenny Bell would lead the discussion of Husker Afros. There's a lot of close cut Husker heads back in the day. And I don't know if that was a Tom Osborne thing or otherwise, but exceptional. I do want to go back to the ABA and finish up and talking about the ABA, MVP's for their seasons. Again, this is 67 through 76, 67 through the prime years of the American Basketball Association. And sidebar, you can Google that for a 10-year period of time,

I was actually, my moniker was the official voice of the American basketball station. The new version of the American basketball station, which was minor league before the G League, D League. I was the voice of the entire ABA, carried all the games, playoffs, etc. So that's where historically I knew some of the stuff. But in 67, from the Pittsburgh Pipers, the Pittsburgh Pipers, the Hawks, the Hawk, Connie Hawkins, maybe the biggest hands to ever play in pro ball. Connie Hawkins was serious. Mel Daniels from the Indiana Pacers,

even though they lost in the finals, was the MVP in 68 and 69. Spencer Haywood of the Denver Rockets. Spencer Haywood, high schooler that went through early, Mel Daniels repeated. Then artist Gilmore, 1971, from the Kentucky Colonels, from the Carolina Cougars, the kid. Billy Cunningham, legendary Sixers coach, legendary player,

Hall of Famer for the Sixers from the Carolina Cougars was the MVP in 73, 74, and 76. It was Julius Irving. And the listeners of this show, one-on-one in this station, know how much I love the old Sixers' play-by-play call, introduction of their lineup. go back to the 70s Sixers and hear their arena announcer, announce the starting lineup, it is a work of art. It should be in every museum. And then 74, the aforementioned, George McGinnis of the Indiana Pacers

was the most valuable players. So those were all the players who got to be a part of that. It was a great run and then, you know, business took over. And that's how we play. That'll do it for one-on-one for Saturday. I think I will go find air condition from the heat and hand this over to you guys. Jackson, I think since you're interested in here, what you should do after, after Euler is you should introduce folks to Tristan. you guys should do a ticket weekend

do an hour yeah figure your way through it easy enough yeah I think you can do that DP out on a Saturday y'all be good to each other